[Goanet] Lourdes Miracles
Fr.Ivo wrote: "Miracles are assessed by scientific procedures as being "extraordinary events", beyond the reach of the physical laws". I am giving more information about Lourdes Miracles. Regards. Fr.Ivo Cures and Miracles Near the busy medical bureau is a fascinating photographic display of pilgrims who have been cured, with notes about their conditions. This is open to the public. A lot of faith lies behind a cure but how do you demystify the beliefs surrounding Lourdes? Current medical opinion is hugely important in helping to define a miraculous cure, requiring an alliance between science and the church. A miracle is "an extraordinary event, believed to be due to a benevolent divine intervention, to which is attributed a spiritual significance." Today, after intense medical and ecclesiastical refinement, the recognition of a cure or miracle requires four stages. Submission to an examination by the medical bureau of Lourdes When a pilgrim claims a cure he or she is examined by the pilgrimage doctor before being referred to the doctors at the medical bureau, which was established in 1947. This body is responsible for the first level of assessment when validating a cure. The pilgrim, along with their case notes, is examined by the presiding doctors, all witnessed by the rector of the sanctuary and the pilgrim's priest. The medical criteria for a cure must be satisfied. a.. The illness has been authenticated and the diagnosis is correct. b.. The prognosis of the disease must be clear cut, including those regarded as permanent or terminal in the near future. c.. The cure is immediate, without convalescence, complete, definitive, and lasting. d.. The prescribed treatment could not be contributed to the cause of the cure or an aid to it. When a cure is confirmed, collegial assessment requires the pilgrim to meet with the medical bureau over a further three years. If the majority of doctors wish, the file of the cured pilgrim will be sent to the Lourdes International Medical Committee (CMIL), which was established in 1954. Submission to an examination by the international committee The international medical committee assesses the cures over 10 to 15 years and observes the patient's development. It certifies medically any proposed file, so constituting the final judicial process. After a positive decision, the file of the cure is sent to the church authorities. Convening of the Diocesan Canonical Commission The duty of pronouncing a cure as a miracle rests with the bishop of the diocese of the person who has been cured. The Diocesan Canonical Commission of priests, canons, theologians, and doctors is called together and when its conclusions are positive the bishop asks the diocese to recognise the cure as a "sign of God," a miracle.
[Goanet] Daily Grook #182
DAILY GROOK #182 _ STAGING BEIJING _ by Francis Rodrigues the opening show cldn't be missed, pollution though hit and mist ! LATEST 2008 CONVENTION PICS: http://2008goanconvention.com/ NEW ALBUMS UPDATED DAILY _ Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207
Re: [Goanet] Reduplicatives !
A beautiful one; Alon dolon gue.chedvan dantém mamilém ani udok nam munon chevan mut'an kaloilem... AT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 > 00:07:41 +0300> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Reduplicatives !> > Francis,> Most > common on gnet..Identity Bidentiy geli dobean, Sez Pez.> > Eddie Verdes> > > From: "Francis Rodrigues" > Perhaps Pandu Lampiao will elucidate us on some > pretty Goan ones?> > _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline
[Goanet] MOPA a boost
The recent spate of paid singers singing the tune of “MOPA” is very much a surprise. It also includes the Governor as quoted in Herald http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=8133&cid=2 The new verse to the song now is “world-class airport will boost tourism”. And the tourist will come in hordes, because they have not seen modern airports, Garbage plantations, Bollywood style police, drug pushers, beggars, cheats, concrete jungles, filthy beaches, raped hills, and you name it. In fact after all these years the world know that Goa struggled to attain these distinctions. And tourists will surely come. By the way, why do people go on tour? Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. _ Searching for the best deals on travel? Visit MSN Travel. http://msn.coxandkings.co.in/cnk/cnk.do
[Goanet] BJP to seek special status for Goa under Article 371 of the Constitution
BJP to seek special status for Goa Press Trust of India Saturday, August 09, 2008, (Panaji) Opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) will move a resolution in the ensuing session of the Goa Assembly seeking special status for the tourist state. "There is large-scale migration into the state because of which the infrastructure has collapsed. We have limited resources within which we have to manage," leader of Opposition Manohar Parrikar told reporters in Panaji on Saturday. The BJP has worked out a strategy for the Assembly session beginning from August 18. "We want the special status on par with Himachal Pradesh and Uttarakhand wherein we can control the financial and land dealings while stopping the demographic changes happening in the state," the former chief minister said. The BJP has taken strong objection to both mega housing projects and slums, mushrooming across Goa due to increased migration into the coastal state having a population of 14 lakhs. "The land dealings should be controlled or else we will not leave any land for our posterity," Parrikar said. The Opposition party has clarified that they are not seeking special status on par with Jammu and Kashmir (under Article 370). "The status will be sought under Article 371 of the Constitution," he said, briefing media at state BJP headquarters in Panaji. The Opposition expects the ruling combine legislators would also back the move, he added. http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080060718 ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] BJP for special status a la Himachal to protect land
Are we seeing some Hope for Goa? http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=8135&cid=2 -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/
Re: [Goanet] Reduplicatives !
--- On Sat, 8/9/08, Alfred de Tavares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alon dolon gue.chedvan dantém mamilém > ani udok nam munon chevan mut'an kaloilem... > > AT > Alfred, I love that mando (if it is one). It's very particular to us Shastikars. You don't have delicade Bardezkars singing such raunchy bits:-) selma
[Goanet] WORLD GOA DAY - 20.8.2008 - WORLD DAMAN DAY
Dear Damaneses, Just a line to remind all country coordinators that whatever you do - food, dance, song, music, plays, even sports, etc., should be typically Damanese for WDD. In your enthusiasm, don't let the culture be diluted with alien cultures - leave Bollywood, South Indian, Bhangra, etc. for other occasions. Keep WDD purely Damanese all the way! But by Damanese, I don't mean Portuguese culture - nor do I mean Indo-Portuguese culture. I mean Indo-Portuguese culture of Daman which also includes fellow Damaneses like the Tandels, Patels, Muslims, Parsis, etc., of Damao. Remember the prize-winning performance of our Umbrella Dance? Or the fishermen’s dance? And our century-old mascot - the toddy tapper silhouetted against the setting sun as he descends down the palm tree? The same goes for the languages - they’re Portuguese (whatever the dialect) and Gujarati. The purpose of WDD is to highlight OUR culture, assert our identity and ultimately turn Damao into a brand just as Goa already is. Kindly monitor this and safeguard our culture - don’t let it be hijacked! Noel PS: You may like to copy-paste the WDD-08 signature below for your own emails. “VIVA DAMÃO! KEEP THE CULTURE ALIVE!” Noel Gama - Overall Coordinator World Daman Day - 20th August 2008 http://web.mac.com/noelgama/wdd08 http://allaboutdaman.blogspot.com/2008/06/world-daman-day.html www.noelgama.com TOGETHER we CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN - TOGETHER WE HAVE MADE IT HAPPEN. == Great thoughts ! rene barreto WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS =
Re: [Goanet] Reduplicatives !
> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 02:21:39 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: > [Goanet] Reduplicatives !> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org> CC: [EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > > > > --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Alfred de Tavares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:> > > > Alon dolon gue.chedvan dantém manilém> > udok nam munon > chevan mut'an kaloilem...> > God for you, young, intrepib Bess, my favourite too...here goes the rest verse: ani bontor nam munon...chedvan askin pinjilém ... (askin: sanitary towel of the times) > > AT> > > > Alfred, I love that mando (if > > it is one). It's very particular to us Shastikars. You don't have delicade > > Bardezkars singing such raunchy bits:-)> > selma _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us
[Goanet] Reduplicatives
Dear Alfred, (1) Per my knowledge, ‘askin’ = apron; ‘bontor vo banddxirem’ = rag - in Bardez, we use the word ‘banddxirem’. A girl/woman supposedly ran short of a piece of rag (Before introduction of disposable menstrual pads in 1895, women often used strips of folded old cloth [rags] to catch their menstrual blood); hence, she tore her askin (apron) and made use of it as a rag. ani bontor nam munon...chedvan askin pinjilém ... (askin: sanitary towel of the times)(2) Alon dolon gue.chedvan dantém manilém> > udok nam munon chevan mut'an kaloilem...> > The lines go as follows: - Apttun-dopttun* gho, cheddvan dantem manddilem - Udok nam mhunnon cheddvan mutan kaloilem *the grinding stones were quite heavy; so, they were set on each other with great difficulty - ‘apttun-dopttun’. (3) Alon dolon gue … – These words belong to another Dulpod; the lines go as follows: - Te bhaimchem udoku, cheddum kadd’ta goddgodditu - Ani alot-dolot et gho cheddum, nanv Morgoritu Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Gaumvaddy, Anjuna http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=News&list=goanet&info=2008-August/author&post_id=078605 http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=News&list=goanet&info=2008-August/author&post_id=078599 _ >From salsa lessons to filmy gossip, news to music concerts - watch it all on >MSN Video http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-in
[Goanet] 22 member delegation calls upon Goa Chief Minister
Monday, August 4, 2008 22 member delegation consisting of People from different parts of Goa today called on Chief Minister of Goa Digamber Kamat at his official Altinho residence. People coming from Goa's mining belt had joint discussion on the impact of mining on the villagers in number of villages. The Villages from where people came for the meeting with CM includes Advalpal, Sarvan, Bicholim, Sirgao, Maina-Quepem, and Colamb. Besides people from the organisations such as GAKUVED, and Goa Foundation. Goa government has come under increased pressure from the public and media to curtail mining industry that has been terrorizing Goan villages by ruining their agrarian economy and ecology. Chief Minister declared that he has no interest in protection mining industry in Goa and he will take steps to regulate the same. Mining policy is the first step in that direction. Dr. Claude Alvares began the discussions by pointing out gross illegalities by mining companies in Goa. Rama Velip and Dr. Avadooth Prabhudesai presented the scenario of Colamb village with Maps. They told Chief Minister that their village stands to disappear in case mining leases gets activated. Ramesh Gauns sounded warning bell by getting into technicalities as to how mining is detrimental to the interest of Goa. He explained as to how it will adversely effect tourism and fisheries industry of Goa, besides creating major water shortages due to mining inside water reservoirs of Selaulim and Opa water works. Shamsunder Naik, presented case of Advalpal mining and dwelt on how his village is suffering due to mining and their agitation is going on since 2005. Dinanath Gaonkar along with a former Sarpanch of his village narrated a tale of tragedy of Sirgao village where in over 70 village wells are gone dry. They called upon Chief Minister to look into the matter. Hartman D'Souza represented the case of Maina in Quepem where in two MLAs of Goa Legislative Assemby Joaquim Alemao and Anil Salgaonkar are involved in illegal mining in pristine forest land. Durgadas Gaonkar, President of Gawda, Kunbi, Velip and Dhangar Federation (GAKUVED) told the Chief Minister that tribal community of Goa is worse affected due to mining expansion in Goa. Chief Minister agreed with Mr. Gaonkar and said the tribal community is particularly vulnerable in Quepem and Sanguem taluka as mining expansion is concentrated in these two talukas. Mr. Umarye from Sarvona presented the case of Vathadev, Sarvona Zantye mining wherein if the mining activities begin then it stands in the middle of major risks including flooding as the mine lease is located in flood prone zone on Bicholim River. Sebastian Rodrigues, Co-ordinator of Mand introduced himself as the one who has been tagged as Naxalite. Chief Minister said he do not share that view and he never called any one Naxalite. Chief Minister requested that he be given the list of all the illegal mines operating in the State of Goa so that he can take action against them. Mr. Kamat, when pressed by the delegates for action he told villagers to physically block operation of mines that are illegal. Environmental Activists Sandeep Azrekar and Nilesh Naik were amongst others present during the meeting with the Chief Minister. Sebastian Rodrigues http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/2008/08/22-member-delegation-calls-upon-goa.html _ Chose your Life Partner? Join MSN Matrimony FREE http://www.shaadi.com/msn/matrimony.php
[Goanet] Mau-mau....
Check the (seemingly Western) definition of the term Mau Mau. Wonder how many Goanetters were caught up in this issue decades ago... FN Meaning *1 : to intimidate (as an official) by hostile confrontation or threats 2 : to engage in mau-mauing someone Example Sentence "Going downtown to mau-mau the bureaucrats got to be the routine practice in San Francisco." (Tom Wolfe, Radical Chic & Mau-mauing the Flak Catchers) A great relationship starts with compatibility. Try eHarmony today! Did you know? The Mau Mau was a militant secret society that operated in colonial Kenya during the 1950s. The ferocity with which Mau Mau terrorists rebelled against British rule was well-documented by national news sources, like Newsweek and Time, and by 1970 "Mau Mau" had become synonymous with "hostile intimidation," especially when used for social or political gain. Novelist Tom Wolfe was the first to use "mau-mau" in print as a word for "intimidate." -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org 784 Nr Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India Ph +91-832-2409490 M: +91-9970157402 Software for Kids Blog: http://softwareforkids.wordpress.com
[Goanet] Yemeni students love Goan culture
Maybe those "Blind" Overseas Goans with vested interests, who term Goan Identity/Culture as "MYTHICAL" should learn something from these Yemeni Students. What do the Yemeni students see that these Anti-Goans do not? http://www.navhindtimes.com/story.php?story=2008080827 Arwin Mesquita. -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/
[Goanet] Chris Parry in the neighbourhood (another one for Dubaikars)
In the seventies my parents moved to Yousuf Baker road just a few miles away from the creek that cuts through Dubai. In the evenings, the sparseness of the landscape, allowed the wind to blow a salty-sea smell our way. Life seemed almost languid. By the nineties seedy hotels and Russian prostitutes would abound, but back then we lived in one of the two multi-storied buildings in the area, surrounded by a cluster of mosques, minarets, flat-roofed Arabic houses and tiny shops run by Iranians and Keralities. The Iranians had the bakeries and groceries, selling fresh produce that came in by dhows from Iran. The Keralites had the barber shops, the laundries and the general stores, selling 7 O’clock razor blades and Patra perfume. Most of the Keralites came from the Muslim dominated Malabar coast of Kerala, and earned themselves the rather pejorative appellation of “Malabaris”. As Muslims they found It easy to lean Arabic. Yousuf Baker street was a mingle of Arabic, Farsi, Malayalee and Hindi. Many Arabs spoke fluent Hindi having frequently traveled and traded with India. To the Goan, the Keralite was an enigma. His indiscernible language, his ability to live in cramped quarters, work under the most rigorous of conditions and his almost obsequious manner made him unpalatable to a Goan disconnected from India for a good 450 years. To this day, in the Gulf, there is little love lost between Keralites and Goans. What we failed to appreciate was the Keralite’s relentless capacity for hard work. By a strange quirk of fate, in the early eighties, Chris Parry, his wife and sons moved into the neighbourhood barely five minutes of walking distance from where we lived and set up the Dubai Music School. My brother, Gary, attended this school which, in the beginning, comprised of three large rooms and a handful of students. My father knew Chris Parry going back to his days in “Kunbi Jackie” tiatre. Chris Parry for some odd reason was dubbed with the sobriquet, Bab Pinto in Goa. His sons Glen, Miles and Giles were more actively involved in running the school. My brother called them the long-haired musicians but they instilled in him a life-long love of music. Chris Parry confined himself to teaching the wind instruments, although when it came time to prepare Gary for the London Trinity college piano exams, he tutored him personally. He had a penchant for safari suits, wearing them like the jazz legend that he was, with the top-two buttons open. The Yousef Baker area by the late eighties was growing grimy and they moved the school to Karama where it established quite a stellar reputation. Chris Parry lived the life of a musician, feted in his prime and almost forgotten in his twilight years. It is ironic perhaps that while the man of Bhuianrantlo Munis fame died in relative obscurity, Lorna picked up her mike and made a comeback. selma
[Goanet] My third visit to Murdeshwar
My third visit to Murdeshwar. I simply like it Check this video clip http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy0z2L4yMxU Pic taken 9th Aug. 2008 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukindia/2746628771/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukindia/2746629101/sizes/l/ from side angle (with Arabian sea in the background) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukindia/2746629387/sizes/l/ Now check these pics previously taken. Can you spot the main difference ? Watch the Lord Shiva carefully. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/286726034/sizes/o/ close up http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/286726181/sizes/o/ the hotel, restaurant, the beach, the statue etc http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/286725700/sizes/o/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/286725896/sizes/o/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/286725380/sizes/o/ at night http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/286724778/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa __ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html
[Goanet] (no subject)
Dear Goanetters, Please forward. Thanks and regards, === Subject: SPECIAL REVISION OF PHOTO ELECTORAL ROLLS TO - All Goans (18 years and above) residing in Maharashtra - get yourself registered today. The Election Commission of India has given approval to the Chief Electoral Officer, Maharashtra for a Special Revision of Photo Electoral Rolls, with respect to 1st January 2008 as the qualifying date, from 7th August 2008. The schedule is as follows:- 1.Draft Publication of Photo Electoral Rolls Thursday 7th August 2008 2.Dates for receiving claims and objections from 7th to 22nd August 2008 3.Special Campaign Dates - Saturday 9th August, Sunday 10th August, Sunday 17th August and Tuesday 19th August [public holiday] 2008 4.Disposal of Claims and objections - Upto 7th September 2008 5.Preparation of Supplementary Lists and printing of Final Photo Electoral Rolls - upto 22nd September 2008 6.Final Publication of Photo Electoral Rolls on Thursday 25th September 2008 All Ward Coordinators are requested to please publicise this schedule in their wards and localities, housing societies etc. and ensure that all those who have not been listed fill Form 6 and get registered. should get in touch with the Returning Officer of your Assembly Constituency Election Office and offer co-operation for the special revision make plans for joint efforts for the special campaign dates as mentioned above. should get in touch with the networking NGOs, CBOs and Resident Associations so that the Voters List will be a true one. This is important as both the Parliamentary and Assembly Elections are just a few months away. LET US ALL MAKE THE MOST OF THIS SPECIAL REVISION AND SEE THAT ALL ELIGIBLE VOTERS ARE REGISTERED! (FOR MORE INFORMATION CONTACT AND VISIT YOUR BMC WARD OFFICER)
[Goanet] Reply to Fr.Ivo
***Let me correct the statement: Miracles are assessed by>>> scientific procedures as being "extraordinary events",>>> beyond the reach of of physical laws. Albert writes:- Miracles are taking place in everyone's life .The very fact we are alive is a great miracle. We lay too much emphases on saints and Mary leaving the Heavenly Father without any importance and praises. Our whole Catholic religion is set up without thought. No much importance is given to the Bible. Though last year we celebrated the year as word of God , it was mere instruction to the lay public to read the Word of God without taking any trouble of teaching the people how to use the Word of God. Our prayers are rote from memory. Rosary has been dumped into our hands which is really a boring prayer.The church should change its stand on prayer and move towards God the Father. Mary did not promise us heaven. Her role on this earth was to give birth to Jesus and give him to us. Jesus clearly said " Come to me " How can the clergy go against this ? please reply. Albert de Souza _ Searching for the best deals on travel? Visit MSN Travel. http://msn.coxandkings.co.in/cnk/cnk.do
[Goanet] Fwd: Letter to the Editor
-- Forwarded message -- From: Arwin Mesquita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2008/8/9 Subject: Letter to the Editor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject : Special Status for GOA Special Status for Goa under Article 371, to protect Land was a welcome call by the BJP. It is high time, all Goans irrespective of Religion, Caste or Creed support/pursue/power this objective; at least on issue basis OR the alternative is that we can continue fighting each other, be the biggest losers in the end and become strangers/minority in our own home; the choice is ours. I hope we all appreciate that Goans have to be united against the forces (internal & external) working overtime to destroy Goa and wipe out our Unique Identity forever. Arwin Mesquita, Salcete, Colva, Goa. -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/
[Goanet] A Golden Jubilee of service and half a century of Management Institutes.
Fr. Romualdo de Sousa SJ. completes a another Golden Jubilee “Clearly, a vocation is a gift from God, and no human effort can replace the action of the Spirit. God uses human instruments.” Interim documents of the 34th General Council of Society of Jesus The mother of Alfred de Tavares, young Romualdo’s "Prima Maurinha", recounted what perhaps is the earliest account we have of Romualdo, the boy. She was bed-sitting him as he battled a particularly vicious bout of typhoid which stubbornly would not subside. The worst was feared. His brother, the distinguished surgeon Dr. Wilfred de Souza, tells how much salutary influence their "Tio Faústino" exercised over them all, especially in infusing and nuturing the holy vocation in Romualdo. Not that Romualdo needed much of either infusion or nutrition in this regard”, he reminisces . “Romualdo, since earliest years, made it quite plain that he was headed towards priesthood”. Several aunts and cousins, used to chuckle recalling how at the slightest opportunity, the young Romualdo was wont to mount the nearest elevation, stool or piano, and render them all a very solemn ‘sermao’ [sermon]. This apparently took place, often, at the prodigious family gatherings at the ancestral hub in Quítula ward of the village Aldona on the banks of the Mapusa river that flows into the river Mandovi. “On our way home from schools for holidays and return, by train through Margao”, says another illustrious brother, the Texas-based oil virtuoso, Orlando, “our Papa and Mama (Fermino and Anna Maria) made it imperative that we visit and spend some time with Tio Faústino.” adding “Not that we required any persuasion. That visit used to be a virtual highlight of our journeys up and down. We got off the caminhao or the ferry at Cortalim and tramped the three kilometres or so to beautiful Sancoale, occasionally getting a bullock-cart lift; there to be pampered and spoilt with multitude of mangoes and sweets by his assistants.” Continues Orlando: “Tio Faústino scrupulously saw to it that we were indeed in holidays and never imposed any extra spiritual or scholarly tasks upon us. That may have also favourably impressed upon our Romualdo, that being priest was not all hardship but included fun ... joy as well. Our uncle had a most endearing manner in inculcating instruction into those close to him ….and he seems to have bequeathed that manner copiously to Romualdo, Noémia and, indeed, all of us. Romualdo’s Jesuit formation in the 1940s began at Vinayalaya in Andheri-Mumbai, with a good dose of Latin and Greek and the sound of the bell ringing out clearly in the silence of the seminary. There sermons and declamations in Latin, the language of the Catholic Church in the pre-Vatican –II synod that ushered the language of the people for the services. He always had a good sense of humour and , according to a Jesuit magazine, “Romualdo had the knackof leading the conversation: he spoke with gusto about his college experiences, taking time to deliver the message, having interesting things to entertain people,and, for that matter, he always remained a great spinner of yarns and anecdotes and was a good reporter of local politics, news and events …with a pinch of salt.” After studies in Vinay, Romualdo went on to Shembag for Philosophy. Either here or during his Regency, he developed a penchant for psychology. “He had a knack for getting things done and a sense of resourcefulness” recalls one of his contemporaries. For theology, Romualdo went to Louvain in Europe and then he was off to New York for his doctoral studies. He had completed his Masters from the Jesuit Univeristy Fordham in New York , and Ph.D. form University of Columbia, USA. When Fr. Romualdo de Souza sj completed his Golden Jubilee of entry into the Society of Jesus in 1995, a FAX message sent from Fr.Socius sj of the Goa Province to Fr. Julian Fernandes sj in Rome, documents part of Fr. Romualdo’s tumultous life with the Jesuits. Fr. Vasco do Rego SJ was kind enough to locate the document for me. It begins matter of factly, “Romualdo, a trained clinical psychologist, stood out as an educationist while he was the Principal of St.Vincent’s High School, Pune.” It goes on to say in the very next sentence, “As Principal, he engaged himself in education, promoting social concern and forming men for others, committed to bring about a new society, and following the main thrusts that were engaging Jesuits elsewhere in the world.” Dr. Jose Colaco, now a practicing paediatrician in Bahamas, remembers Fr. Romauldo with a deep sense of gratitude for the guidance he received at St. Vincent's High School, Pune [then spelt as Poona]. In a personal email to me he wrote, “Fr. Romualdo was my guidance counsellor at St Vincent's High School. He guided me away from engineering into medicine. He is not a psychiatrist but a psychologist.” In 1973, it pleased the then Sup
Re: [Goanet] Special Status for Goa - Press Statement for Kind Favour of Publication
August 9, 2008 To, Editor/Admin, The Navhind Times/Herald/Gomantak Times/ Goa Today/Gomantak/Tarun Bharat/Navprabha/Pudhari Goa/Goa Doot/Goan Observer/Sunaparant/Deccan Herald/Asian Age/ TOI-Goa/V. Ixtt/Gulab/Goa World Today/gulf Goans/Goan Causesa/Goa Net/www.goasu-raj.org Sir, Sub: Special Status for Goa. The public announcement made by the Opposition Leader Shri. Manohar Parrikar of the Goa Bharatiya Janata Party that the 'BJP' will seek to pass a resolution in the coming Goa Legislative Assembly session to seek 'Special Status for Goa' on the lines that is availed by states like Himachal Pradesh and Uttaranchal, comes as a very welcome and long awaited news. The Goa Su-Raj Party feels happy that such a realization has dawned on Goa's leading political party when Goa has lost most of its lands and resources since 1961, where Goa should have been accorded this very status after the liberation. Having said that , the Goa Su-Raj Party believes that it is better late than never. The Goa Su-Raj Party congratulates the Opposition Leader Shri. Manohar Parrikar for thinking like an endangered Goan atlast, who is about to lose everything precious to him with the onslaught that has been taking place on Goa's meager resources. Goa Su-Raj Party hopes that the Goa BJP will not have second thoughts on this most positive stand it has taken, which stand should be a very good reason for Goans to commence rejoicing, as this happens to be the best news Goa and Goans have received since 1961. The Goa Su-Raj Party will certainly hold Shri. Manohar Parrikar and the Goa BJP to its 'word' and await for the passing on this unique and sensitive resolution in the House of Goa's Representatives. It is expected that the House will pass this resolution unanimously as there is no reason for any political dispensation wanting to see the good of Goa to oppose this resolution. Thanking you, Yours Sincerely, for Goa Su-Raj Party Sd/- (Floriano C. Lobo) General Secretary/Spokesman.
[Goanet] BJP for special status a la Himachal to protect land
This needs to be welcomed. However, couple of issues. 1) This will need an amendment to the constitution (Article 371) which needs to be done in Parliament. Certainly possible! 2) There should not be loopholes. I see corrupt Goans teaming up with outsiders buying land first in their name, or even leasing it to outsiders and making big moolah. Also, what about companies? They can be registered in Goa but they need not have Goan directors. What is the status if they want to buy land in Goa? Finally, what about the govt. itself acquiring land in the name of some fig-leaf projects such as IT parks and food parks and then giving out to big time developers? BJP has supported the TCP amendment that allows the above. Why is that? BJP would do well to bring out a private bil that scraps this amendment first, and then go for new legislation. regards, Samir
Re: [Goanet] Lourdes Miracles
From: "Santosh Helekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> As you can see, the procedure described below is clearly not a scientific procedure of any kind. ***After all kinds of tests and monitoring, after all research by physicians of different nations and faiths (or no-faith), after long follow-up, it is un-scientific to say that it is not scientific procedure. A committee meeting chaired by a Bishop deciding by a 2/3 majority vote whether something is unexplained or inexplicable based on current knowledge, is possibly the farthest one can get from a scientific procedure. ***Dr.Santosh is again confusing the issues and not handling scientifically what has been presented to him by the Committee itself. The Bishop may or may not accept as a "miracle" what the majority of physicians, dealing with the case and consulted for the cases, deems to be medically not feasible. After a strict medical procedure, the case is defying medical science. An incurable case has been cured in that specific manner, as it is given by the criteria for miraculous cases. Out of 7,000 healings, only 68 are considered to be "miracles". To deny is as un-scientific as to call any case a miracle. What's more, the fact that the committee members are presumed to be pious Christians, as stated below, with a strong ideological conflict of interest, and a vested desire to continue their hallowed traditions, makes this exercise not even a nominally objective one. ***By the fact of being Christians, they do not cease to be scientists. "Pious Christians" do not call any case a "miraculous cure", but discover that Science could not do what has happened in the present case. We Christians do accept miracles, worked out by the power of God, as signs of his love, precisely because our reason tells us. Science tells us that it is objectively so. It is a long process. If we had just to find out miracles, one could easily find. In spite of medical progress, we know how difficult it is to cure diseases. The Christian does not invent miracles, nor expect that every suffering will be healed by medicine or by miracle, but accepts also suffering, for s/he knows the redemptive value of suffering. The deck is undoubtedly loaded and stacked in favor of affirming their preconceived beliefs. ***This is another un-scientific, gratuitous affirmation coming as it comes from a scientist. It is coming from his "preconceived belief" that there is no God, no miracles. It is his biased ideology... The claim that this is a scientific procedure is therefore laughable by any standard. ***The conclusion is clear: One cannot deny miracles by laughing at a scientific procedure. The procedure itself leads us to accept that it is beyond the scientific realm, to faith in miracles. It is laughable to find such a statement among scientists. Regards. Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] Toronto Goan Convention
A short perspective by Mrs. Acaria Almeida, Treasurer, Goa Sudharop A reflective question as a delegate who attended the convention: What were our take aways from this convention? My hope is that all delegates ought to have left the convention with more food for thought which will translate into fruitful action. What can each of us, either individually or as a group, from every nook and corner of the Globe, do for Goa? First we must begin with ourselves, then our families, then the immediate communities we live in, and then of course Goa. This ought to be the expat focus. My family and I left with more friends and ideas from this Convention. Upon our return to California, Goa Sudharop has committed to the following in addition to its other volunteer work: 1. Sponsor Fashion Design workshops for the young and booming talent in Goa in co-ordination with well-known fashion designer Wendell Rodricks who we met at the convention. 2. Sponsor environmentally-friendly Natural Dye projects (also with Wendell) to help poor and village women in Goa. 3. Sponsor the USA distribution of the book "GOA, of Sun and Sand", a thoughtful and serious look at Goa's tourism, by Goa-based Valerie Rodrigues. 4. Organize an awareness day in California to promote some of the challenges facing Goa and how expat Goans can connect to the motherland. 5. Initiate a program so young Goans who have never been to Goa, can visit and discover their Goan idenity on their own. 6. Spread information on current land-abuses in Goa as indicated by architect Dean D'Cruz during his excellent presentation at the convention. 7. Support Goan wild-life activists and environmentalists like the young Clinton Vaz whose presentation was shown at the convention (he could not attend). I am pleased to write we have already begun action on each of the seven ideas above. To all those in Toronto and elsewhere who wish to support Goa financially, you are welcome to channel your financial support through Goa Sudharop (click on the DONATE button - PAYPAL) on the Goa Sudharop website, www.goasudharop.org. Please accept my deepest thanks and appreciation to the Toronto Convention organizing team for doing an amazing job in bringing great quality and content to this convention. The cultural flavor took us back to our roots through the Tiatr and Mando Mogi's performances. We are very grateful for this rich and entertaining experience the convention made available to us. Also, thanks to the ALL the doers. Those who made time, at personal cost and hardship, to organize the workshops and events which Filomena has written about in detail from a doer/activist perspective. May you sail on Goan winds and soar and touch the sky. Thank you Toronto.
[Goanet] Goa news for August 10, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** BJP to seek special status for Goa - TopNews [15 hours ago] Panaji, Aug 9 : The Opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) will seek special status for Goa on the lines of Himachal Pradesh and Uttarakhand, where certain ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/6-0&fd=R&url=http://www.topnews.in/bjp-seek-special-status-goa-257813&cid=1235085409&ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCw&usg=AFQjCNFTlwue9QiMsUudSMIYYnDu6_pKbA *** Goa to get speed governors for public transport vehicles - Times of India [21 hours ago] PANAJI: The Goa government will soon implement a decision taken at the state transport ministers conference in Delhi to install speed governors for public ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/4-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goa_to_get_speed_governors_for_public_transport_vehicles/articleshow/3344391.cms&cid=1235083193&ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCw&usg=AFQjCNH-Q84gec6jAXtvx2yyhJ87ncIumA *** Call to exclude Goa from 2008 CMZ Call to exclude Goa from 2008 CMZ - Herald Publications [18 hours ago] PANJIM, AUG 8 ” At a consultative meeting held here today, activists and organizations in one voice demanded that Goa be excluded from Coastal Management ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=8132&cid=2&cid=0&ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCw&usg=AFQjCNG61nNB8hZQ3DK73ewHHoXQBJ20aQ *** Top India chefs to cook at Goan food fest - The Times [1 hour ago] The exotic flavours of India and Portugal will mingle at the Goan Food Festival at Umhlangas Beverly Hills Hotel from August 23 to 30. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/8-0&fd=R&url=http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/News/Article.aspx?id=818505&cid=0&ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCw&usg=AFQjCNFKznhzjl0wwQVxJBExhP6ArcTzQQ *** A million mutinies now - Times of India [7 minutes ago] The newspapers Hillary Gonsalves nowadays keeps company, nourish his invective against the detrition of Goa's land and life. But more significant than stale ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/7-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Review/A_million_mutinies_now/articleshow/3347087.cms&cid=0&ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCw&usg=AFQjCNGgSQ44WPJQJ5yIUEGkMPq6APWXcA *** INDIA Church Cautious About Laws To Protect Old Goa, Ancient ... - Union of Catholic Asian News [50 minutes ago] OLD GOA, India (UCAN) -- Church people in Goa have taken a cautious stand on a government proposal to protect Old Goa, the onetime Portuguese colonial base ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/5-0&fd=R&url=http://www.ucanews.com/2008/08/08/church-cautious-about-laws-to-protect-old-goa-ancient-mission-center/&cid=0&ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCw&usg=AFQjCNGIuE-2upD2qf6esWoFnmsu1KYuBw *** BJP to seek special status for Goa - NDTV.com [19 hours ago] PTI Opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) will move a resolution in the ensuing session of the Goa Assembly seeking special status for the tourist state. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/3-0&fd=R&url=http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080060718&cid=1235104543&ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCw&usg=AFQjCNEWx8fqdkT2RDzCAMk5ug_WrxwAaA *** Goa society seeks support to take over int\'l film fest - Times of India [6 hours ago] MUMBAI: The Entertainment Society of Goa (ESG) has asked the film industry to support them in their plan to take over the International Film Festival of ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/2-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai/Goa_society_seeks_support_to_take_over_intl_film_fest_/articleshow/3344511.cms&cid=0&ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCw&usg=AFQjCNG7jAEtqK2Xonu4t_CurWHbDCCPlw *** Sunday, Goa style - Times of India [6 hours ago] The monthly bizzare buzzaar at this Goan hotspot is really the most exciting way to spend ones Sunday. The August edition, which was marred by the ban on ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Bangalore/Sunday_Goa_style/articleshow/3345571.cms&cid=0&ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCw&usg=AFQjCNGaFueTv_GFpz7u5BThz6xRMTE4OQ *** Foodies day out in Goa - Times of India [6 hours ago] Foodies in Goa have another reason to cheer for. At the Goa Marriott Resort, Independence week is being celebrated with diverse tastes of Indian cuisine. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/0-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Foodies_day_out_in_Goa/articleshow/3346252.cms&cid=0&ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCw&usg=AFQjCNFm-GhWKpoih0KmdfZrGyQYIGlvkA Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Goan Music: HERALD(Goa), Aug 10, 2008
GOAN MUSIC By Valmiki Faleiro Among my many debts of gratitude, one I owe is to Goan music. To ‘Cantorists’ and lyricists of Konknni songs. To those who set the verses to music, and produced a repertoire very dear to a substantial segment of Goans. From old-world gramophone records, transistor radio and the first cinema, it was the music that took me to the songs. The songs then took me to the lyrics. That is how Konknni songs, among few other things like Konknni-speaking friends and the ever witty, wise, and often wacky, world of Konknni adages, improved my otherwise severely limited vocabulary of the mother tongue. To them all who scripted, scored and sang all those great Konknni songs, here is a humble salute. I met Frank Fernand, producer of the everlasting songs in his pioneering, early-1960s films ‘Amchem Noxib’ and ‘Nirmonn,’ in the late 1970s. I carried his angst, on the disdain of Goa’s elite and government towards Konknni, in a Sunday piece in the Margao-based ‘West Coast Times’ I was then with. The ‘Father of Konknni Cinema,’ who tried adapting the ‘Tiatr’ to celluloid, is, to me, also the greatest Konknni music composer. Frank Fernandes – born Curchorem, May 3, 1919 – played the violin and trumpet like they were toys. He was maestro to Bollywood greats like Shankar-Jaikishan and Kalyanji-Anandji. He set the tunes of ‘Amchem Noxib’ and ‘Nirmonn’ to musical magic. This great son of Goa passed away in Mumbai, April 1, last year. My good neighbour and friend, Francisco C. Colaco, no less a cardiologist than a singer he also is, opines that late Chris Perry was the greatest. I have no problems. Both Dr. Colaco and I were blessed to be born in an area, 100 metres in radius, that gave birth to several Konknni greats (the list is long, but allow me to mention a few): Joao Agostinho Fernandes, “Pai Tiatrist” (father of Tiatr.) Mestre ‘Fancu’ of the Holy Spirit church and its music school, who spawned a generation of famous musicians. His reconstructed house at “Tepodi Pandd,” leading to the house of some “Tepodd” – catch Margaoites nicknaming people charitably! – still stands, as does the original quaint residence of the ‘Pai Tiatrist’ at Modsai. Roque Bernardo Barreto Miranda, scion of a great literary family, kept Konknni traditions alive with his ‘Enfiada de Anexins Goêses’ (Imprensa Nacional, 1931.) Amazing that such a tiny geographic area also produced the likes of Mestre Nunes Fernandes and Anthony Mendes, to me the greatest Konknni comedian. His role of ‘compounder’ in ‘Amchem Noxib’ is yet unsurpassed. And, of course, Chris and Joe Perry. Another 100 metres from here, then tiny ‘Pequeno Madel’ gave Goa musicians of the meter of Mestre Agostinho Carvalho. Also the much decorated singer-comedian, Manoel Santana Aguiar (State Award-1985, Sangeet Natak Academy’s-1995, and Padma Shree in 2005 – an award every decade!) Born in Madel, “M. Boyer” settled in Santemol, Raia. His stage brother, though, the unique Jacinto Vaz, Goa’s own Charlie – Sir Charles Spencer – Chaplin, came from Mandur, Tiswadi. I am under no illusions that any justice can be done to the world of Konknni music within one or even a series of newspaper articles. Permit me, though, to reminisce a bit. Half a century ago, when I was a child, Konknni was shunned both in schools and in upper class homes. Konknni, our identity and heritage, thrived on the laps of the red lateritic soil of the central of Parashurama’s seven Konkanas. Our ancestors made that identity bud, bloom and blossom. Konknni writers, musicians and songsters kept the language going. Some have chronicled Goa’s film and stage music. Andrew Greno Viegas, who fell to cancer at 40 last year, was among them. Between his teaching job, he collected memorabilia of Konknni song, wrote, and brought out the ‘50 Years of Konknni Cinema’ (2000.) He worked at building an encyclopaedia of recorded Konknni music. There is the almost self-effacing Bonaventure D’Pietro of Anjuna. He not only writes copiously – his ‘Songit, Doulot Goenkaranchi’ (2004) is a treasure – but plays and produces Konknni music as well. We have our own inimitable storyteller, Mario Cabral e Sá, who, between his many books, edited ‘Location Goa’ (2006.) Another journo Frederick Noronha has pointed out that this State-sponsored volume lacks adequate exposure. Selling books, even one as good as Mario de Sá’s, I reckon, would not fetch our ministers the kickbacks that outsourcing deals do. (To conclude.) PS: Hats off to the Music Lovers’ Society for starting the Nauzer Dharuwala-conducted Goa String Orchestra concert at Margao’s Holy Spirit church, August 3, with the 18th Century Konknni hymn, “Dipti vonti, Sulo kinni.” (Ends.) The Valmiki Faleiro weekly column at: http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=330 == The above article appeared in the August 10, 2008 edi
[Goanet] Goa stares at bleak tourist season (Alexandre Moniz Barbosa, TNN)
The drop of 10-15% in tourism is not only in Goa. Dubai too has experienced a similar drop. This may not have anything to do with the absence of infrastructure of which Dubai has plenty. It is more likely related to the falling spending power of consumers seriously impacted by double digit inflation. In the UK and Europe it is compounded by the declining housing market and consequently the wealth of potential travellers. If oil prices continue to decline the airlines will be able to offer better air fares and the inflation monster may recede allowing business and individuals to prosper again.
[Goanet] Apttun -- dopttun
>- Apttun-dopttun* >gho, cheddvan dantem manddilem >- Udok >nam mhunnon cheddvan mutan kaloilem >*the My favourite is: Madganvan thovaia ger, thoavai ger mej kelan re rondum tajer ek chedum nachota, chedum nachota vaankdem korun bhendd taka ek pakhlo choita, pakhlo choita burkhan ghalun tonnd are tem chedum nhim, tem chdum nhim ti randdd. faarar faar.
Re: [Goanet] Lourdes Miracles
Many years ago I had written why the bureaucratic procedure of certification of a miracle described in the post below is not a scientific procedure at all. A modified and updated version of my write up is give below: Simply put, any scientific procedure requires that properly blinded and objective researchers obtain quantitative data about the probability of occurrence of the phenomenon under observation in the special condition under study, and then compare this probability with that of its occurrence in a control (properly matched) group of people under appropriately controlled conditions. Since the so-called miracles are by definition rare events, this is a monumental task. In a real scientific procedure one would have to track down at least a large random sample of people suffering from the specific type of disease in question, who have ever made a pilgrimage to Lourdes, and investigate what happened to them. This is obviously extremely difficult to do. But if one could do this, and it turned out that all these other 167,323 individuals were dead or dying from the disease, in spite of undergoing an intensive regimen of prayer or immersion in holy water, then one would have to find out if the tiny probability (let us say 2 out of 167,323) of "miraculous" recovery from the dreaded disease was significantly higher than the probability of this recovery occurring in a comparable sample of control (properly age-matched, gender-matched, etc) people who had the same disease but did not go to Lourdes for treatment. It should be obvious to those of you who have followed the logic here that if it turns out that two or more individuals from this latter group had also recovered spontaneously from the disease, then no particular benefit from the pilgrimage would be deemed to have occurred. Well, the actual situation is even more complicated than what I have just described, as those with some statistics background would realize. However, the impossibility of performing the above simplified, yet massive, project to scientifically demonstrate that anything extraordinary has occurred, should be fairly plain to most people. The descriptions provided by Fr. Ivo in his last two posts, and all other published information on this miracle business, show that nothing of this nature has ever been done. But suppose you undertake such a genuine scientific project, and it turns out that there are 50 other cases of spontaneous cures in the Lourdes group and only 10 in the control, and the difference is statistically significant. Would we then conclude that we have witnessed extraordinary events or miracles? Would it entail any kind of supernatural explanation at all? Absolutely not! There is a much more parsimonious explanation for this observation. This explanation has been codified in several decades of clinical trial literature as the Placebo effect. It is an umbrella term that groups together all possible psychological and social factors that might emanate from the self-knowledge that something is being done to cure your disease, and from the personal self-confidence that this ritual will cure it. The biological basis of this phenomenon is being currently unraveled, and it won't be long before we know how this occurs exactly, unless the guardians of the unsupported belief in the constricted potential of the human intellect attain their vindication, and this indeed turns out to be their last impenetrable bastion of complacency - of being content with living in a state of blissful ignorance. Cheers, Santosh --- On Fri, 8/8/08, Fr. Ivo C da Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Fr.Ivo wrote: "Miracles are assessed by scientific > procedures as being > "extraordinary events", > beyond the reach of the physical laws". > I am giving more information about Lourdes Miracles. > Regards. > Fr.Ivo > > Cures and Miracles > Near the busy medical bureau is a fascinating photographic > display of > pilgrims who have been cured, with notes about their > conditions.
[Goanet] AMI KHORENCH SVOTONTR ZALEAT?- Fr. Teo Fernandes, OCD
A translation of Fr. Teo Fernandes, OCD, Ami Korench Svontontr zaleat? The original is appended below. venantius j pinto Did we truly become Independent? Fr. Teo Fernandes OCD On Aug 15th, 1947, the British government after having imposed its rule (Raj) on Bharat for about a hundred years, lowered its flag the Union Jack, while the Indian flag was raised -- announcing to the world that the India nation had gained its Independence. Hearing this joyous news the people of India were filled with happiness, and Lomanya Tilak's famous words, "Swaraj is my birthright, and I shall have it" became a reality. To achieve India's independence, the great leaders of India such as Mahatma Gandhi, Jawaharlal Nehru and other leaders suffered a lot having faced beatings and encountered shootings. In British prisons our great leaders shed blood. As the result (fruition) of that blood, was that India was freed from being enslaved. It is 61 years since our India attained its independence. The British government who subjected us have gone and now we have our Indian government. So have we truly become independent. Have we truly profited from the liberation that our great leaders attained by wrenching it for us. This question provides us with two answers. Yes and no. "Yes," meaning that we got our freedom from the British government. Now we are the Indian state. The second answer "No" -- we are not free. The Indian nation did not gain real independence. If we were to watch the conditions in the nation, it appears as though we are still minions. Let us take a casual glance. Recently the bomb blasts by terrorists caused the deaths of many people. No one other than God has the right to take the life of a another person on earth. Since man murders his fellowman, then it appears that in this world mankind has no right (deserve to) to live. Considering the recent events it is apparent that man lives in a fearful environment. When and where will ones death take place -- bearing these thoughts; a man looks at the remainder of his earthly days as if being his first day, while tending to ones being. Indeed are we truly independent. Seen another way, the events taking place these days are very frightening. Upon reading the papers and when news reaches ones ears, the body but shudders. Mothers and fathers are selling their children to traffickers who prey on their holy bodies (as manifested by their Creator). Some mothers even take the lives of the children in their wombs. Little children are being raped. Sitting on school benches children who are there to study appear as adult laborers; having been robbed of their childhood (the stage of chilhood having passed them by). Have these children truly become independent? Undoubtedly no pride here. Thirdly, in our India there are so many who are impoverished. The government via sloganeering loudly (crassly) proclaims, "Garibi hatao" (Abolish poverty) Some people live in hunger. Those who have wealth and means are becoming even richer. The have not continues to remain stamped upon. We have communalism in India. What is taking place in the name of Dharma (Religion)? Killings, stealing (also robberies); before taking one lives make sure to take the name of God. Well, is this true independence. Fourthly, the central government makes this state government benefit itself (controls it). The populace is cheated, the public treasuries are emptied, the government is toppled or formed as and when it suits them (their fancy). Injustice abounds, pockets are filled while the populace that cast their votes are shown the ultimate betrayal. If India was independent should its impoverished citizenry (population) not deserve a clean government? We cannot say that we have received the fruits of Independence. If Bapuji Mahatman Gandhi, our great Indian leader who achieved independence were to be alive today; he would have have been disgusted by the current leaders--a band of looters. Watching from above, observing the manipulation of the freedoms of independence, he must have cried out saying, Oh, Ram what is happening in my independent India? We can still attain true independence and this is dependent on each and everyone of us. We may only gain real independence, if we keep pounding our steps like Bapuji, otherwise, we will enslave ourselves. So beginning now without wasting any time, each and everyone should to gain an independence without worries, on this here today -- Independence day. AMI KHORENCH SVOTONTR ZALEAT? - Fr. Teo Fernandes OCD Sumar xembor vorsam British sorkaran hukumxayechem Raj Bharot dhesacher choloilea uprant Agostache 15ver, 1947 vorsa zo British sorkaracho bhavtto ?Union Jack? aslolo to kalla dhevoun Bharotacho bhavtto vhoir choddoilo ani Bharot dhes svotontr mhunn sonvsarak zajir kelem. Hi khuxechi khobor aikun sogllo Bharatacho lok anondan bhorlo ani Lokmanya Tilak-an mhonnlelim famad utram ?Swaraj, mhozo zolmacho hok ani tem mellun ghetolom? korim zalim. Bharotak svotont
[Goanet] 2008 International Goan Convention , Part 2 - July 23, 2008
The July 22, on Tuesday night, a showing for Wendell Rodricks held on the evening before the Convention was described in Wendell's own words as, "Lisette and Kevin Saldanha got Placido involved and he swung the show on the road. Between him and Olinda they gave me the best "In house" boutique show I had in my entire career." This was a fitting debut to the exciting 2008 International Goan Convention which promised interactive learning and inspiration from high caliber speakers to a fun filled social calendar. On Wednesday July 23,2008, delegates were welcomed to the University Of Toronto Mississauga (UTM), with a hot breakfast, and registration was underway from 8am-10am. At approximately 10am delegates were led to their choice of workshops. These included a Konkani workshop led by the seniors and coordinated by John D'Souza, a writers craft workshop led by author Victor Rangel Ribeiro, a fashion and design workshop led by Wendell Rodricks, A Goan Identity Workshop for the youth facilitated by Christine Pinto and Ranvir Jangi of "Facilitation at work", and last but not least a music workshop led by GNAT's president Francis Rodrigues. The Konkani workshop was the result of many months of hard work put in by the seniors and coordinated by John D'souza. In the end the seniors showed us that commitment, experience and wisdom can master the most challenging tasks and they produced a Konkani book called "Konkani for everyone" that includes such gems as Konkani prayers, hymns and proverbs. An excellent handbook for all seeking an introduction to the Konkani language. These seniors were "determined to see that Konkani has a place in every Goan Cultural Organization. The highlight for Kevin and myself was when we checked in on the group late afternoon and they read us a thank you speech in Konkani. The group then proceeded to sing Konkani songs which set the mood and flavour for a nostalgic moment in Goa. Paul Nazareth, Frank Fernandes, Lynn Souza-Marques, Lourdinho Rodrigues, Pliny Noronha, Lazurus Pereira, Joao Manuel Pereira and John J D'souza were the team that produced The Konkani For Everyone Book. Special thanks should also be given to Joao M Pereira and Frank and Lucy Fernandes for their courage to stand up and lead the Konkani Workshop together with John J D'Souza. The seniors were an inspiration to those attending the class, and their enthusiasm and love of Konkani was the motivation needed to propel this class forward, and leave the attendees looking into the windows of a world where Konkani is a beautiful language not only to have and hold close to our hearts, but to also speak with pride. To the seniors, Deu Borem Coruum. The Writers Workshop was filled with potential novelists eager to learn from the experienced Victor Rangel Ribeiro. His small, diminutive stature does not prepare you for his great sense of humour, wit and finesse with which he delivered his writer's craft workshop, and left all the participants hungry for more. The participants from this workshop formed a writer's club and will continue to master their craft and complete their works with confidence. The Fashion and Design workshop run by Wendell Rodricks was filled with participants ranging from age 16 to over 70. This three day workshop was exciting, inspiring and fun as Wendell had promised. Participants worked hard and in the end left artistically challenged and fulfilled. As one participant Margaret de Souza wrote: " The Creative Fashion workshop was fascinating and illuminating. It tapped on one's inert creativity. The workshop provided us with tools, tips, visual and verbal metaphors bringing the art to life in three days. We all were honoured to be at this prestigious workshop because Wendell Rodricks is definitely the world's most renowned fashion designer and creator." The workshop that represented the theme of the Convention was the "Goan Identity workshop" for the youth. Professional facilitators Christine Pinto and Ranvir Jangi were the ideal duo for this workshop. Christine, although petite had a force and presence that won over the youth, and captured their attention while bringing out their thoughts and perspectives on various identity issues. Many delegates were observers and sat in on this workshop. The preparation and professionalism with which this workshop was carried out was evident in the room and later in a summary that Christine gave on the last day of the convention. Here is a comment from a youth who attended the session; "Thanks for inviting me to the workshop, it was definitely time well spent Met some nice people and learned a lot about my heritage", A.V. (23) The response by the youth about the workshop was summarized in part, as being " an extremely necessary action you are taking to educate Goan youth about our culture and it is extremely appreciated." For those who were not inclined to attend workshops, a viewing of Rajan Parri
Re: [Goanet] Where have the Toronto Goans gone?
Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > Perhaps one way to get more people to attend is to have coinciding reunions > of schools, > colleges and professional get-together. GL, The G.O.A. holds a festival called VIVA GOA every year, here in Toronto. About 7,000 people attend the festival. When we were planing the Toronto convention, we thought that we would capture more delegates if we held it on the same weekend as VIVA GOA. Well, this year, for the first time, VIVA GOA did not take place. The organizers had problems securing a venue, etc. They did not know till the last minute if VIVA GOA would be held. It costs the organizers about $40,000 to host VIVA GOA. We went ahead with our plans. Kevin went to every Goan social for the past three months informing people about the conference. On some weekends, he went to two or three functions, trying to sell our convention. The response we got from Toronto area residents was not what we hoped for. The response we got from Goanetters was similar. > One conference speaker described Goans being "united in their disunion". > Then another writes how he button-holed > a Goanet moderator for rejecting (his and others) posts because they are > "inappropriate". These two attendees should > have talked to each other. I for one wish to thank the Goanet moderators for > rejecting "inappropriate" posts. I hope the > moderators exercise their prerogatives, to provide a climate on the internet, > for more unity among Goans. From the spate > of recent posts it looks like more needs to be done in this regard. Perhaps > Goans in Toronto and the 'greater Toronto > regions' are sending a 'loud' message by their absence. And some of us > may still not be getting that message. The convention was very stimulating to me. I learnt a lot from the writers workshop. I also learnt a lot from the presentations that were made, some by those who came all the way from Goa on their own expense. I made new friends and met for the first time, whose writers on Goanet who I have admired for a long time. I came away from the convention enriched by what I had learnt and by those I had met. Others, perhaps, had different experiences. One delegate, who I am told was sued after the 1988 Goan convention in Toronto, rushed to the internet with every negative item he could find/was fed. His first post, set the tone for all that followed and essentially destroyed six months of hard work. Let me give you a small example of the work involved. We invited a Mando group from Goa. The Canadian High Commission in India denied their visa application. We had a deadline for printing the convention program and had to go ahead. Members from the committee then contacted the local politicians and managed to get a letter that eventually secured the Mando groups visa. The Mando group suddenly informed us that they were coming and arriving on the Monday of the convention week. They arrived a day before, on Sunday. Suddenly we had to find accommodation and venues for them to perform. This type of situation was repeated a hundred times during the convention. Mervyn3.0 BTW, 1) we missed you. 2) someone came up to me on the opening day of the convention, claiming he was Mario. He disappeared when I asked him to return my money :-) __ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Tax implications in selling Ancestral Property to Goans.
Tax implications in selling Ancestral Property to Goans. I have been approached by many people seeking clarification on Tax implications when selling an Ancestral Property. Can someone kindly explain what and how much tax is involved when selling a property in Goa. Apparently, the property is worth Rs. 90 Lakhs. Thank you for sharing this information. Oscar C. Lobo.
Re: [Goanet] Toronto Goan Convention
Thank you Oscar. Goans must boot-strap themselves to success. Focus, hard-work, and staying positive will make a real difference in the long-run. George --- On Sat, 8/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My thanks to Mrs. Almeida. It? is very interesting (and > laudable) to note that she came up with specific action > items resulting from the convention. So she chose to > "light a candle", where others, given to > politicking, could only "curse the darkness". It > is also a proof that finding common ground and building on > it can be achieved when Goans come together. Kudos to the > Sudharop folks. > > Oscar > > > -Original Message-> > > A short perspective > by Mrs. Acaria Almeida, Treasurer, Goa Sudharop > > A reflective question as a delegate who attended the > convention: What were our take aways from this convention?
[Goanet] Literary congregations (sahitya sammelans)
Economic and Political Weekly, EPW [http://www.epw.in], is a magazine that's usually thought-provoking, and I recently renewed my subscription to it (Rs 3200 for individuals for three years). In the July 12, 2008 issue, there's an interesting article of relevance to Goa, titled 'One for the (Cyber) Road". It's by that iconoclast who writes under the initials of GPD, and says: "The Marathi Sahitya Sammelans have been th evictim of the crass vulgarity that characterises our literary culture." The Konkani sammelans -- of various shapes and forms -- have also been patterned on their larger, Marathi counterparts. So it's anyone's guess how relevant this debate is to us here in Goa. GPD writes: "During colonial times, there was a justified feeling that all cultural and social activity of people must have a collective aspect. Cultural professionals should meet once a year at least and exchange views and experience. It was justice Ranade who started it all towards the end of the 19th century. The idea was that one of the senior cultural activists, in this case, a Marathi author, would be selected to give a lead to the discussions. Being so elected acquired before long a status of (a) Nobel. Or nearly so! Year after year the celebratory nature of the collective increased and now the process of election has acquired a status akin to that of the election to the chairmanship of a sugar cooperative." He adds: "It is a part of the Indian psyche that we seem to be reluctant to see that literature si basically to be privately enjoyed. I think our poetry readings are responsible for it. In none of the advanced societies the phenomenon of a score of poets and 50 odd poems being applauded in one evening ever takes place The Marathi Sahitya Sammelans have been a victim of this crassness. And yet, ordinary people throng these celebrations with great enthusiasm. They buy books worth several lakhs of rupees. They venerate their idols and icons" -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org 784 Nr Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India Ph +91-832-2409490 M: +91-9970157402 Software for Kids Blog: http://softwareforkids.wordpress.com
[Goanet] Fw: Lourdes Miracles
From: "Santosh Helekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> As you can see, the procedure described below is clearly not a scientific procedure of any kind. ***I am giving here the report of the Eucharistic miracle. We believe in the real presence of the Risen Lord in the Eucharist under the species of bread and wine. Christian faith is not based on miracles. The miracle confirms it. What would be Dr.Santosh's scientific procedure? "For my neuroscience this can never happen!"... This is laughable! Let us humbly accept the reality. We know how much we do not know! Regards. Fr.Ivo The Eucharistic Miracles The first Eucharistic miracle took place in the Naju Parish Church on 5th June 1988 during Mass when Julia Kim received Holy Communion and the Sacred Host turned into flesh and blood in her mouth. Since then, she has experienced this miracle on many occasions, both in Naju and abroad. It has been witnessed by many people, including priests, the Pope's representatives and even the Holy Father himself when Julia visited the Vatican in October 1995. During a private Mass celebrated by the Holy Father, Julia received Holy Communion and the Eucharistic miracle occurred again, for the twelfth time. The Sacred Host turned to flesh and blood on Julia's tongue. The newsletter, Mary's Touch, reported, "Immediately after the Mass, the Holy Father, came to Julia and witnessed this miracle. His Holiness blessed Julia and her companions. "On 17th September 1996, a Eucharistic miracle took place in the Sacred Heart Cathedral in Sibu, Sarawak (Malaysia), when Julia Kim, together with about 3,000 people, were present for Mass concelebrated by Bishop Dominic Su, Mgr William Bos, Fr Tom Connors, Fr Francis Su, Fr Jacob Ong and Fr Paul Chee. During the homily, Bishop Su emphasised the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist and the healing power of the Eucharistic Lord. When Julia Kim received Holy Communion a short while later, the Sacred Host on her tongue turned into flesh and blood in the shape of a heart. Many people witnessed this miracle and, as on previous occasions, photographs were taken. A few minutes later, Julia consumed the flesh. In his testimony, Bishop Su said,"Our Lord performed this miracle in order to confirm our faith in his Real Presence in the Eucharist. To him be the glory and praise for ever and ever!" Other miraculous signs that have occurred in Naju include a vision in July 1995 during a service to celebrate the anniversary of the first time Our Lady's statue shed tears. Julia saw the wooden figure of Jesus on the cross turn to flesh and bleed at seven places on his body. The seven wounds then turned into white round hosts which floated down to rest on the altar before Our Lady's statue. When Julia consumed one of the sacred Hosts later, it turned into flesh and blood. The two priests celebrating Mass, dipped their fingers in the blood, showed this to the people and wiped their fingers on a piece of white cloth, which is preserved in the chapel at Naju. All these signs and wonders have touched many people and a committee has been formed to investigate and examine the evidence. The Church in Naju hopes that the revelations there will be officially approved by the Pope, and the Church and the whole world will be renewed by the mercy of God through our Blessed Mother. From the Nunciature The Apostolic Pro-Nuncio in Korea, Most Rev Giovanni Bulaitis, wrote to Bishop Dominic Su, "It has come to my knowledge, the wonderful manifestation of the Holy Eucharist which took place in your presence last September. This Nunciature is gathering material relating to events involving Julia and I should be most grateful if you could share with me the experience with a documentation, witness-reports and photographs. As you may know, I myself assisted at a marvelous presence of the Eucharist in November 1994"(Page 50, The Holy Eucharist and the Blessed Mother. Publisher:Sacred Heart's Audio visual Centre, PB-495, 96007, Sibu, Malaysia) Bishop's report In response to this letter, Bishop Dominic Su wrote, "Thank you for your letter, dated 1st November, 1996. I was caught totally unprepared when this extraordinary Eucharistic phenomenon occurred in our Sacred Heart Cathedral, Sibu on 17th September, 1996 during our Eucharistic celebration from 7.30 p.m. to 9.30 p.m. When I think over it now, I can see that it was good for me to be caught unprepared. Had I expected before hand that this mysterious incident would happen, I would have got a pyx ready to get this "flesh" and "blood" from the mouth of Mrs. Julia Kim for laboratory analysis. This would show that my faith in the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist would have to depend on scientific proof. What Jesus wants from us is our child-like faith in Him and not an intellectual type of faith based on science and reasonings. That is why some Catholics, including a few priests, no longer believe in the r