[Goanet] Goan villages - activities
Could anyone help me in listing the activities which still take place in our villages and in which village. like for eg. boat making is still prominent in Betim.
[Goanet] Eduardo Faleiro's email id ?
Hi, Would anyone happen to know the email id for Eduardo Faleiro ?. Thanks, -Maria
[Goanet] Broadband services in Goa
Hi, Just wanted to check who are the major broadband providers in Goa and what are their typical upload/download speeds and the rates ?. How long does it take to get a typical broadband connection in Goa and what is the procedure ?. Also, do we also have wireless broadband ? .What is the range ?. Is it available throughout Goa ?. This is more for the Corlim-Ilhas area near Old Goa. Thanks for your help, -Maria
Re: [Goanet] Lourdes Miracles
From: "Roland Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For a scientist Santosh, you have written a particularly unscientific reply. In what was a Faith thread, all I said was that faith was worn as a badge of learning in your case and as a social statement badge by Kevin. I then went on to explain what faith meant to those of us who have it. Why should we let you atheists go unchallenged in debate? We have the right to express our viewpoint also. ***You are right, Roland. While deepening the issues, I am also learning from the so-called atheists and agnostics. Let them know also why we believe without being gullible... Regards. Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] Not (yet) on message
TOI Aug 26,'08: "State administration is ultimate authority on airport issue: CM". Some of the jarring notes: 1)"Kamat categorically assured that the Dabolim airport would be retained even IF the government pursued the Mopa airport project". It should have been "when". 2) "The government ... has decided that Dabolim CAN be retained" It should have been "must" be retained. So #1 and #2 together indicate hesitancy. Maybe Miguel Braganza can interpret. 3)"The project is being planned to cater to 20 million passengers over the next 25 to 30 years". What does this mean? Almost 1 million passengers a year for 25-30 years? Or 20 million passengers per annum IN 2033 or 2038? The former may be more realistic though I doubt that this is the actual plan for Mopa. It represents a huge climb down from the 10 million figure of ICAO used originally (comparable to BIA and HIA and perhaps Navi Mumbai) and whittled down to about 6 million subsequently. The government needs to be upfront about the actual start-up size of Mopa and projected growth in conjunction with Dabolim. 4) "The financial viability will depend on ownership and funding patterns which are based upon other models operating in Hyderabad, Bangalore, Kochi and other places". These three have been based on closures of existing civil enclaves so its bad news if they are being used as templates for Mopa since assurances are being given for public consumption that Dabolim will be retained. 5) "Lourenco said that the closure of Dabolim airport would severely affect the economy and livelihood of South Goa". I would simply have said "Goa" instead of appearing partisan.
[Goanet] Inflation soars to TWENTY SEVEN year high
Mario Goveia wrote: > > BTW, the facts and my private email inform me that I > make more sense overall and disemminate more correct > and logical information "under the influence" than > you do sober:-)) > Fri Aug 22 12:55:59 PDT 2008 Mervyn Lobo mervynalobo at yahoo.ca > Oh Mario! The last person who tried to tell me that he was capable of the above also added, "and I drive much better than you when I am under the influence." It is called DENIAL. Denial, as I am sure you are aware of, is the biggest hurdle in the 12 step program. > Mario responds: > Is this why you continue to DENY that your explanations of gold prices and how you picked the lowest price of gold, make no sense?:-)) I suggest you cross that very high hurdle you have made for yourself:-)) Or, if you prefer, "stop digging":-)) > Mervyn wrote: > HELLO! This is the year 2008! Were you sober when you read the article, you would have seen that it was written in 2006! For Goanetters who are grounded in the present and interested in the economic future, here is a link from Fox. > Mario responds: > Just as I thought, more misrepresentations. You looked at one link and caught the bull by the tail:-)) The other URL I cited - shown again below - lists annualized inflation rates, month by month, right up to July 2008. The last time I checked, 2008 was way after 2006:-)) You have to learn how to find information on the Internet, Mervyn. Look again. > BTW, do you know the difference between producer prices or wholesale prices and retail prices, Mervyn? You don't? I thought so:-)) > The article you cite talks about "Producer prices" during one month, July 2008. It says wholesale prices shot up 1.2% in July. Unfortunately for your assertions, inflation statistics are measured in "consumer prices". The Inflation rate is calculated from the Consumer Price Index (CPI-U) which is compiled by the Bureau of Labor Statistics and is based upon a 1982 Base of 100, not wholesale or producer prices, which often do not show up in consumer prices in the short run. Did you know that? > >From the following URL, you can see that inflation in July was 5.6% per annum, which is about a 17 year high, but low by world standards. > http://inflationdata.com/inflation/Inflation_Rate/HistoricalInflation.aspx?dsInflation_currentPage=1 > Mervyn wrote: > I am glad that you have identified your problem. Please take steps to stop its progress as I am not interested in seeing you embarrassing yourself further. > Mario responds: > It is high time you identified your problem, Mervyn, because everyone else has:-)) >
Re: [Goanet] Lourdes Miracles
From: "ralph rau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Last time I heard Goanet was a forum for discussing social issues of concern to Goans and not debating matters of faith. ***Which are social issues of concern to Goans? We are hearing a lot about them. We can hear them being debated in the Legislative Assembly in these days by our political benefactors. Some of them are already out of our reach. They have already been decided by Delhi authorities, whether they are beneficial to us or not. "Matters of faith": are they not social issues? It's rightly said - to those who believe no proof is necessary. To those who cannot, will not, or do not (the doubting Thomases) no proof is sufficient. ***Are "doubting Thomases" examining the evidence? What is "proof" for them, when science itself cannot explain the miraculous phenomena? Should "doubting Thomases" manipulate and deny the facts? The doubting Thomas accepted the apparition of the Risen Lord and exclaimed: "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28). Should scientific jargon be imposed on those who accept miracles and state that there is no contradiction between Science and Religion? Should we follow "dogmatism of science"? >>Fr. Ivo should stop trying to defend his faith. It merely attracts the >>ire of the detractors. ***Is this the freedom of expression in our democratic country and Forum, when 'those without faith' (or rather agnostics) can "detract" those who have Faith with reasons for it? Are not the agnostics "attracting the ire" of the believers? Is it not their right to defend their Faith? People with Faith (some of them 'in cloth') are working for the solution of problems of India with their social commitment and heroic dedication. These are "miracles" of Faith and Love... Regards. Fr.Ivo
Re: [Goanet] Lourdes Miracles
From: "J. Colaco < jc>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I do understand that there is a "scientific committee" and a process for these miracles - BUT if any process is going to be accepted, the process has to be open and transparent. I suggest that IF we really want to investigate ANY matter - we should invite inspection from the 'skeptical' side. ***The Medical Bureau examines the evidence scientifically and consults also the International Medical Panel, which consists of scientists of all beliefs and 'no-beliefs' and 'skeptics'. I must say that I am amazed by the writings of Fr. Ivo. Is that sort of stuff helping or not-helping the faith I have that the Catholic Church is based on the teachings of Christ - the serious failings of the human faces of the Church notwithstanding? ***Are not miracles a part and parcel of the teaching of the Church and of the Gospels? Jesus worked miracles, as the Gospels attest. The Church has defined the possibility of miracles. Our Faith is not based on miracles, but it is confirmed by them. It is historical and rooted in the Incarnation of the Word. My contention is that miracles do not contradict Science. They go beyond the natural phenomena, they cannot be explained scientifically. They are explained as intervention of God's power. We Christians have no problem to accept them. Should we not explain it to the agnostics when opportunity is given to us? If so, why bombard me and the rest of us with junk? ***We are used to be bombarded with "junk" by most Goanetters in this Forum, including Dr.J.Colaço (with mutual insults). We bear up with them, let him and others bear up with me... These matters are of concern for us all. Check a: If s/he has the requisite knowledge of the field of medicine in which the miracle is said to have occurred. b: S/he has personally reviewed all the original details of the case. c: S/he is able to say with confidence that there is NO other explanation for the 'cure'. ***Dr.JC has not paid attention to all these three points presented in the postings. All these three conditions have been fulfilled by the Medical Bureau of Lourdes. Some of the Points made by Santosh Helekar > 1. The claims that any of these "miracles" were investigated by following proper scientific procedures are false. ***These procedures have been used. 2. I want to demonstrate that those who claim scientific legitimacy for their belief in the authenticity of these "miracles" are being misled by bogus pronouncements in propaganda publications and on the internet because they refuse to or are not able to critically evaluate these pronouncements. ***If definite criteria to judge them are fulfilled, then they are authentic. We do not accept "bogus" anecdotal tales. Historical criterion is important--what has happened and how. 3. In the case of the Korean "miracle", the Church authorities themselves have rejected it as fraudulent, and warned against its propagation among their followers. ***There is a cocktail of "phenomena" there in Naju, South Korea. Discipline had to be maintained. The Archbishop has given his verdict. His verdict does not rule out Eucharistic miracles, as attested by the witnesses, including Bishops and priests who saw it. My point is that there are Eucharistic miracles. About his assertion that it is against the teaching of the Church, I agree to disagree: the Church approves of Eucharistic miracles. I have given two examples: one at Naju and one at Lanciano. At Lanciano scientific investigation by Dr.Odoardo Linoli has confirmed it: the white Host was turned into Flesh and Blood. Consulted by ZENIT, Dr.Linoli explained that "as regards the flesh, I had in my hand the endocardium. Therefore, there is no doubt at all that it is cardiac tissue." In regard to the blood, the scientist emphasized that "the blood group is the same as that of the man of the holy Shroud of Turin, and it is particular because it has the characteristics of a man who was born and lived in the Middle East regions." It is not "fraudulent", it is preserved at Lanciano till today. My contention that it is a miracle stands. This should not be "junk" for you. Regards. Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] GHANTTI
Most readers understood my message except you because you are obsessed with 1961 and the previous regime! What the Portuguese could not do for us in 451 years, we Goans have achieved in the last 47 years, especially education and freedom. Did you ever write anything positive about Goa or India on this forum? You may be a Goan-Portuguese by birth but you have abrogated your birth right to another country by acquiring its citizenship. You may despise India and love your new country but we love our India. I once again repeat: If you want to improve the situation in Goa, India, come here and help us or stay wherever you are and enjoy your greener pastures; you have no right to meddle with us Indians. The readers will judge whether what I wrote in my previous post is childish. A child grows up and accepts the new world but you still behave like a child! I have not forgotten about toothpaste and toothbrushes - I use them regularly because I know how valuable they are to me! Moi-mogan, Domnic FernandesGaumvaddy, Anjuna http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=News&list=goanet&info=2008-August/author&post_id=079343 _ Searching for the best deals on travel? Visit MSN Travel. http://msn.coxandkings.co.in/cnk/cnk.do
[Goanet] Special Status for Goa (Letter to Goan Media)
-- Forwarded message -- From: Arwin Mesquita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2008/8/26 Subject: Letter to the Editor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many Goans are confused on exactly what "Special Status", Chief Minister Digambar Kamat is going to demand for Goa. Let us be very clear, the Special Status should include banning All Land Sales (agricultural & non-agricultural) to Non-Goans; nothing less. Article 371 should be amended to include Goa; as is for some other states. Arwin Mesquita,UAE. -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/
[Goanet] It is just not so!
Notes From Chapter 2 of "Cracking Da Vinci's Code" by G&J False statements of DB in the Da Vinci Code: 1. The sexual union between man and woman in the only way to achieve 'gnosis' - the knowledge of the divine (pg 308) 2. Church through the ages recasts sex between man and woman as a 'shameful act' (pg 125) 3. Church has repositioned sex as evil in order to combat a threat to its base of power (pg 239) DB's book is not a book about sex. Yet it talks about sexual rituals that allows one to truly know God. G&J concludes that Da Vinci Code is an appeal for 'free sex' separate from the parameters established by God and espoused by the Church.. According to G&J, the 'Hieros Gamos' propounded by DB is no sacred union. It is 'free sex' using neo-pagan and quasi-religious language. An example is when the main character Professor Robert Langdon lectures to a group of students about finding divinity during sex. In the novel, Robert Langdon is professor of religious symbology at Harvard - America's leading Ivy League place of learning DB through Professor Langdon uses the technique of 'causuistry' where well-thought reasonings are used to justify what the individual wants to do. The teacher / DB suggest there is no Christian concept to sex for joy as in Tantrism or alchemy - where sex can bring spiritual enlightenment. Langdon's claim of equating sex with Original Sin as a wrong teaching of the church (as if that was the official teaching of the church) is fallacious. Some of DB's statements are so out of sink that it is not worth dignifying them with a response by G&J or myself. All religions and societies treasure marriage as an important institution. And an integral part of marriage is sex. So to classify sex as a "shameful act" is ludicrous. Some will recollect sometime back, several intelligent minds in many Goanet posts were propounding with authority that there is nothing wrong with consensual sex outside marriage; before or after marriage. Was this 'causuistry' at work? Were they students of Prof Langdon or were they just 'faking it'? The humor here is, that Prof Langdon is a fictional character in Da Vinci Code. So those who promote the virtues of consensual sex are following the writings of DB and others with a similar agenda. 'Androgynous' - the union of male and female during sex is not a representation of God or a way to commune with God as some religious cults believe. And others wanting 'free sex' would have us or their sexual partners believe. Regards, GL
Re: [Goanet] Lourdes Miracles
From: "Santosh Helekar" [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think that Fr.Ivo and others would do well to heed the following excerpts from the authoritative 1998 decree of the concerned Archbishop regarding the fraudulent miracles of this mystic called Julia Kim: ***I have quoted Roman Danylak, titular bishop of Nyssa, Apostolic Administrator, Eparchy of Toronto, Canada, who witnessed the Eucharistic miracle. Should we not give credit to him? The Archbishop of Kwangju has given his version: "1.2. The phenomenon alleged as a miracle of the Eucharist fallen from heaven is contradictory to the doctrine of the Catholic Church that only through the priest's consecration does the sacrament of the Eucharist begin to exist (cf. Catechism de l'Eglise Catholique 1411: DS. 902) even though the priest is in grave sin, because when all the sacraments are justly celebrated in accordance with the intention of the Church(ex opere operato), Christ and His holy Spirit operate in them (cf. Catechism de l'Eglise Catholique 1128: DS. 793-794). ***I did not refer to "hosts" or "Eucharist fallen from heaven". The phenomenon itself is doubtful. It is to be further investigated. That is the task of the Archbishop of Kwangju, his scientists and theologians. Furthermore, the alleged phenomenon that as soon as Mrs. Julia Youn received the Eucharist, it was changed into a lump of bloody flesh in her mouth is also contrary to the doctrine of the Catholic Church that even after the bread and wine are transubstantiated into the body and blood of Christ with the formula of priests' consecration, the species of bread and wine remain (cf. Pope Paul Ⅵ's Mysterium Fidei: DS. 782, 802, 1321, 1640-1642, 1652)..." ***The Archbishop of Kwangju has authority in his Archdiocese and is to be respected there. But I would disagree with him when he says that the consecrated bread and wine cannot miraculously be transformed into the body and blood of Christ as a "lump of bloody flesh". The species of bread and wine remain on the altar. Faith discovers for us the body and blood of Christ through transubstantiation. Cannot there be Eucharistic miracle? There have been several Eucharistic miracles. They confirm our faith in the Eucharist as attested by the New Testament. Is this "contrary to the doctrine of the Catholic Church"? Certainly not! At Lanciano, Southern Italy, in the 8th century CE. in the little church of St.Legontian, there was a Eucharistic miracle in response to a Basilian monk's doubt about the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist. At the altar the host was changed into "live Flesh" and the wine into "live Blood". It was investigated by various commissions. In November 1970 the illustrious scientist Dr.Odoardo Linoli, eminent Professor in Anatomy and Pathological Histology and in Chemistry and Clinical Microscopy at the Hospital of Arezzo, assisted by Prof.Ruggero Bertelli, Professor of Human Anatomy at the University of Siena, analysed this phenomenon with scientific precision and documented with a series of microscopic photographs. They concluded: 1.The Flesh is real Flesh. The Blood is real Blood. 2.The Flesh and Blood belong to the human species. 3.The Flesh consists of the muscular tissue of the heart. 4.In the Flesh we see present in sections the myocardium, the endocardium, the vagus nerve and also the left ventricle of the heart for the large thickness of the myocardium. 5.The Flesh is a "HEART" complete in its essential structure. 6.The Flesh and the Blood have the same bloodtype AB. 7.In the Blood there were found proteins in the same normal proportions (percentage-wise) as are found in the sero-proteic make-up of fresh normal blood. 8.In the Blood there were also found these minerals: chlorides, phosphorus, magnesium, potassium, sodium and calcium. 9.The preservation of the Flesh and the Blood, which were left in their natural state for twelve centuries and exposed to the action of atmospheric and biological agents, remains an extraordinary phenomenon. 10.In conclusion, it may be said that Science, when called upon to testify, has given a certain and thorough response as regards the authenticity of the Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano. There are books on Eucharistic miracles. If Dr.Santosh is interested in explaining them away, he could read them. I do not want piecemeal and biased amateur answers... ***I am not an agent of Julia Youn Kim. I only defend the Eucharistic miracles as signs of God's power against those who treat them as "bogus" or as "superstitions" in this Forum... Regards. Fr.Ivo
Re: [Goanet] Lourdes Miracles
From: "raju gonsalves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There seems to be quite a hue and cry about the miracles. ***Precisely because they happen, but are being denied by some scientists. SEEK N YOU SHALL FIND... I am seeing that the revelations by our lady of fatima, are happening, may be I sought - so why dont you all seek. ***Therefore, you accept miracles. You seek miracles. Visions and apparitions at Lourdes and Fatima have been tested and approved by the Church authorities. They belong to the phenomenon of Incarnation which is the kernel of Christianity. You do not need any "hue and cry about the miracles". You only need discernment. What I am writing is not for you. Regards. Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] Goa news for August 26, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Kamat demands special status for Goa - Hindu [Aug 24, 2008] Panaji (PTI): Demanding special status to Goa, Chief Minister Digamber Kamat on Sunday said he will soon lead an all party delegation to the Centre. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/2-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200808241759.htm&cid=1239501716&ei=ZECzSIHgHqPKgAPQhq30Ag&usg=AFQjCNHGUQX8F0-6F6QDSx3P56Ck3Migpg *** Interim ST status for Dhangars on anvil - Times of India [58 minutes ago] Kavlekar then ridiculed the budgetary provision of Rs 20 lakh for Dhangars saying it is a small budget for the large community in Goa. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/5-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Interim_ST_status_for_Dhangars_on_anvil/articleshow/3405262.cms&cid=1239950126&ei=ZECzSIHgHqPKgAPQhq30Ag&usg=AFQjCNGhhRiuMlV75Ljf6Ssq3tqt9vuBjA *** Goa to press for special category status - Hindu [21 hours ago] PANAJI: Goa Chief Minister Digambar Kamat will soon lead an all-party delegation to New Delhi to plead the States case for special status. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/2008/08/25/stories/2008082559921200.htm&cid=1239883996&ei=ZECzSIHgHqPKgAPQhq30Ag&usg=AFQjCNF3j0IWD1SsLp5nYchkYBStRLTRtw *** Goa\'s complete online news edition - Monday, August 25, 2008 - Herald Publications [19 hours ago] Youth form human-pyramid to break the pot in the dahi-handi contest organised at Azad Maidan in Panjim on Sunday, as part of Janmashtami celebrations. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=8934&cid=1&cid=0&ei=ZECzSIHgHqPKgAPQhq30Ag&usg=AFQjCNHYw0sGFDQEUsF02uaSnYliwcXqeQ *** UK Indian doctor sets shop in Goa for medical tourists - RxPG NEWS [Aug 24, 2008] He added: 'You can go to Goa, have a holiday and a treatment and still come back better off.' He claimed Go-Health was unusual in that it guaranteed pre and ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/8-0&fd=R&url=http://www.rxpgnews.com/medicaltourism/UK-Indian-doctor-sets-shop-in-Goa-for-medical-tourists_110510.shtml&cid=0&ei=ZECzSIHgHqPKgAPQhq30Ag&usg=AFQjCNE-QLJfDc8tBSsGffm7p00_XwUFOw *** Goa Schools Lose Out on Student Volunteers - OhmyNews International [Aug 24, 2008] The Indian state of Goa was one such destination for the young students from the UK But the Goa placement program raninto rough waters, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/7-0&fd=R&url=http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?at_code=435245&no=383491&rel_no=1&cid=0&ei=ZECzSIHgHqPKgAPQhq30Ag&usg=AFQjCNG0O_FzZwVntvTL5h3e4pv78Cnrzw *** Mumbai ravers get their ˜stuff from Goa? - Herald Publications [19 hours ago] "In a group of 40 to 50, a couple goes to Goa every second week and gets the ˜maal.," reveals Pranav, a BPO employee. The procurers are rotated within the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/6-0&fd=R&url=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=8930&cid=2&cid=0&ei=ZECzSIHgHqPKgAPQhq30Ag&usg=AFQjCNGjt4G2ayPffBPyL1a5_Rd0UcmaxA *** Goa, a safe investment option - Economic Times [Aug 23, 2008] If you're looking at investing in property or buying a second home, then Goa may still be you're best option. Nature is doing for Goa, what IT did for ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/4-0&fd=R&url=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/quickiearticleshow/3398929.cms&cid=1239521793&ei=ZECzSIHgHqPKgAPQhq30Ag&usg=AFQjCNECFnHlrof6N6t83KplHPScP6ccRA *** Sesa Goa board allots bonus shares - Myiris.com [8 hours ago] Sesa Goa, engagedin the mining and distribution of iron ore and manufacture of pig iron and metallurgical coke, allotted bonus shares of Re 1 each, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/3-0&fd=R&url=http://www.myiris.com/newsCentre/newsPopup.php?fileR=20080825182010043&dir=2008/08/25&secID=livenews&cid=0&ei=ZECzSIHgHqPKgAPQhq30Ag&usg=AFQjCNHIByHqnWgHsMUheEAuBygk1IBCRg *** Death too is a lonely affair for HIV in Goa - Times of India [58 minutes ago] PANAJI: The discovery of the body of 45-year-old Vasco resident, Ajay, at the bus stop near Goa Medical College and Hospital on August 21, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/0-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Death_too_is_a_lonely_affair_for_HIV_in_Goa/articleshow/3405249.cms&cid=0&ei=ZECzSIHgHqPKgAPQhq30Ag&usg=AFQjCNEK7NG7f0Epv66v2WZ1ATGit6LMow Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] Fw: Lourdes Miracles
From: "Marlon Menezes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Fr. Ivo, > What the hell (no pun intended :) is transubstantiation? Transubstantiation is a very scientific sounding word - perhaps a play on the scientific concept of the transmutation of elements. Why are you attempting to package your belief in magic/miracles/hexes/spells with scientific terminology, so as to give it an aura of credibility? ***Dear Marlon, "transubstantiation" is not my invention. It is a theological term used by the Church in her Councils, particularly in the Council of Trent (DS 1652) to express the change of the bread and wine into Christ's Body and Blood, the Risen Lord. After the Consecration there is a change in meaning and therefore of the being of the gifts. Jesus said: "This is my Body...This is my Blood" (Lk 22:19). They are signs of Christ's self-giving and require our self-gift. It is the Church's faith from time immemorial (cf.Acts 2:42). I do not believe in magic, hexes, spells, curses, but in miracles. I am not trying to give it "an aura of credibility". It has solid grounds of credibility. It has nothing to do with transmutation of elements through alchemy, philosopher's stone or "elixir of life". Regards. Fr.Ivo --- "Fr. Ivo C da Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jesus of his real presence in the Eucharist through transubstantiation. I > hope that the readers will see that there are "Eucharistic miracles" in > our times. > Regards. > Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] Why can't India develop world-class athletes???
The following essay by Indian humorist Melvin Durai is funny and yet exposes India's chronic inability to develop world class athletes - except in cricket - from among over a billion people, whereas tiny and relatively poor countries like Jamaica, the Bahamas, Trinidad & Tobago, Kenya, Cuba, and many others, produce them year in and year out. > Even Bahrain!! Yes, Bahrain!! > When some Indians, who produce thousands of intellectual athletes, preen about being a superpower in the near future, doesn't this sound like a pathetic joke after watching these last Olympics and what China has achieved in a relatively short period, after awakening from and rejecting years of crushing economic Marxism? > Melvin Durai is a Winnipeg-based writer and humorist. Born in India and raised in Zambia, he has lived in North America since 1982. Through the Internet, his column is read by thousands of people in more than 90 countries. This week's column hits the bull's eye! (pun intended) > 'THE SHOT HEARD AROUND THE WORLD' > In case you missed the news, in case you were sleeping under a rock or just got released from Guantanamo, India won its first-ever individual gold medal at the Beijing Olympics, causing 1.1 billion people to jump up and down with joy, touching off a minor earthquake in California and a major interruption in tech support. > Yes, an Indian man won an Olympic gold medal -- and without all his opponents getting injured. Abhinav Bindra, a 25-year-old from Delhi, won first place in the 10m air rifle event, beating 50 other shooters, including that great Albanian marksman Imer Gudschot. > So excited were members of the Indian Olympic Association, so taken in this moment of high-fives and champagne-popping, that some of them checked the official medal table to see if India had moved past America. No such luck, of course, but that didn't stop Indians from celebrating like it was the greatest Olympic achievement ever. And who can blame them? After all, it was their first individual gold medal since India began competing in the Olympics more than a century ago, back in the days when 'catapulting' was an official sport. > 'The drought is over!' screamed one newspaper's headline, causing even more celebration across the land, particularly in the farming community. It was a shining moment for India on the world's greatest sporting stage. As one Indian politician eloquently put it, 'Abhinav Bindra has shooted us all into glory!' > Almost everyone in India , from the Prime Minister to the church minister, heaped praise on Bindra. Even members of the Indian Astronomers Association, attending a convention in P une, took a break from the proceedings to applaud the 'shooting star.' > Congratulatory messages poured into India from all over the world. U.S. presidential candidate John McCain, hoping to endear himself to Indian-American voters, sent a congratulatory card that he said was 'from one straight shooter to another.' Indian legislators debated a motion to celebrate Aug. 11 every year as Gold Medal Day. They voted down a proposal to display Bindra's medal at a national museum in Delhi, amid fears that the building would not be able to handle the millions who would come to view it. > The excitement and celebration may have seemed overblown, but not to Indians. 'P eople around the world may not know this,' a Chennai man said, 'but we Indians really love gold!' Bindra's victory, combined with shooter Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore's silver medal at the 2004 Olympics, is expected to increase the popularity of shooting in India , drawing thousands of youngsters to shooting competitions and exhibitions during breaks from cricket. > 'We want shooting to be more popular in India,' said sports administrator Baljit Singh, 'but not as popular as it is in America .' > Hoping to match the success of TGC (The Golf Channel) in America , media mogul Rupert Murdoch announced that Indian viewers would soon be treated to TSC (The Shooting Channel). It's expected to feature various shooting competitions from around the world, as well as reruns of the American shows 'Gunsmoke' and 'Have Gun Will Travel.' > Rajesh Patel, who has been hired as a TSC analyst, said Bindra's victory will have a lasting impact in India , even on sports announcing. "We're not going to say that someone's performance is 'simply wonderful' anymore," he said. "We're going to say that it's 'simply Bindraful.''' > Schoolchildren for years to come will learn about Bindra, thanks partly to an Indian publisher who has already put out a special alphabet book: 'A is for Abhinav. Abhinav is first name of champion. B is for Bindra. Bindra is surname of champion. C is for Chapati. Chapati is food of champion.' > Bindra has not just earned a lifetime of adulation, he has become India 's most eligible bachelor, receiving a flood of marriage proposals. Said his proud mother: 'We have received proposals from North Indians, South Indians, even West Indians.' Indeed, a Trinidad dairy far
Re: [Goanet] Lourdes Miracles
--- On Sun, 8/24/08, edward desilva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Does Santosh aspect the Devil to work miracles? Again as the saying goes: >if >your god is good my devil is not bad, is that what you are saying >Santosh? > I am saying that I do not care why people believe in miracles. They are free to do so in their own personal lives. Just as there are theists who believe in miracles, there are many New Age non-theists who believe in all kinds of miraculous paranormal powers and cures. I have nothing to say in favor and against their faiths. My concern is limited to explaining why those who claim in the public domain that their supernatural beliefs have been validated by science, are spreading bogus information. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] Settlers, settlers and more settlers
Cecil Pinto cecilpinto at gmail.com Fri Aug 22 04:28:59 PDT 2008 > I bumped into Mukesh Mehta after a long time. A decent sort of chap. I had first encountered Mukesh some nine years back when he purchased a row house in Dona Paula and was setting up a branch of his family's garment import-export-retailing business in Panjim. Like thousands of others he had visited Goa on a holiday, fallen in love with the place, and decided to make it his permanent home. Mukesh is well educated and keeps himself aware on all issues. > and, > I also wondered why earlier settlers always look down on those who come just after them. And I wonder about Goan identity. I wonder what corrupts it, and what complements and enhances, our culture. I realized that by Kunbi standards I too am a relatively recent settler. And that my writing in English could be an affront to Konkani. Should I discard my 'western' lifestyle and go back to agriculture to become a better, more pure Goan? What will I look like in a kashti? > Mario adds: > This essay is a fitting riposte to those who still pretend that there is a unique Goan Identity that needs to "preserved", but are unable to coherently identify exactly how and by whom in a democratic form of government, because the King Canute imitations we have become familiar with on Goanet would be about as successful as the good King's demonstration centuries ago. > Many of those corrupting Goa's culture and defacing the countryside are of Goan ancestry, whereas many who are improving and enhancing Goa are settlers. > What is it about the Indian culture and mentality that invests so much psychological capital in and works so hard at dividing people, while, at the same time, preaching morality to the rest of the world??? > The world and India are shrinking, people. Mukesh Mehta, a new Goan, is a stunning example of what some enterprising old Goan could have achieved, instead of running off to be a chef in some foreign land. >
Re: [Goanet] Lourdes Miracles - Faith or God in action
--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Roland Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unless you are a Saldanha apologist, there was no need to > drag Lisette Saldanha, the Goan Convention, and settling of scores into > this thread at all. > I would like to remind Roland that it is he who injected the Saldanhas in this discussion, and his belief that he is like the ordinary folks while I wear a badge of learning just as a Saldanha wears a badge of social status. Please see his earlier post in this thread to verify the truth of what I am saying. I reiterate that Roland knows nothing about me, the types of badges I wear or do not wear, and my motivation for writing in this forum. I would therefore kindly request him not to mischaracterize what I am and what I do in this public forum. However, I have neither denied him nor objected to his right to comment on the substance of my posts. Cheers, Santosh --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Roland Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In what was a Faith thread, all I said was that faith was > worn as a > badge of learning in your case and as a social statement > badge by > Kevin. I then went on to explain what faith meant to those > of us who > have it. Why should we let you atheists go unchallenged in > debate? We > have the right to express our viewpoint also. >
[Goanet] The History Of The Goan Overseas Association (Toronto)
The History Of The Goan Overseas Association By John Nazareth* (Published March 1995) Goans have traditionally been a highly socialized community, forming socio-cultural clubs wherever we go. Our roots are social, emanating from our traditional village system of government (or "communidades") in Goa that continued for over 1000 years - well after similar such systems were destroyed in the rest of India. In Ontario, this penchant for organized social lives has manifested itself in the Goan Overseas Association (GOA), which is celebrating 25 years since its inception. It is the vehicle through which Goans express their collective joys and aspirations. Hence, its activities tend to be all-encompassing: social, cultural, sporting and welfare (looking after the unique needs of its troubled). The GOA is highly democratic association with an elected Executive (through sometimes vigorous campaigns) and a strong tradition of accountability to its members. Twenty-five years in the life of an association is a matter of pride and joy. Beginning as a defined body in 1970 with just a few members, the Goan Overseas Association has now grown into a full-fledged organization of more than 1100 members representing at least 4000 people - or over 40% of the Goan community in the Greater Toronto Area (GTA). This is one of the highest participation rates among non-religious cultural organizations in the country. And so it is hard to imagine its humble beginnings. GENESIS When the first Goan arrived in Ontario is unknown, but certainly, Goans began arriving in significant numbers in the early 1960s. The migration from East Africa followed the growing Independence movements that brought uncertainty for Goans - and speeded up with the Expulsion of Asians by Idi Amin of Uganda; the flow from Pakistan was a reaction to rising intolerance of Christians; from India, perhaps it was just adventure - as it was with Goans from the beginning. Life was not easy for those early pioneers in the 60s. They had left places with well-established social scenes, for the adventure of a vast Toronto where they had not yet made friends among the local populace, and old familiar Goan faces were not close by, and not everybody had a car. Some recall landing here with no set place to go and ended up in a Hungarian boarding house at 1075 Yonge Street. Canadians especially in Church were ever willing to be helpful, but the way of life here was so different that there was an urge to find familiar faces before adapting to the new environment. It seemed life was lonely for most Goans in Toronto then! In order to cope socially, the few struggling, relatively new immigrant Goan families would visit each other at their homes, or meet for picnics in order to reminisce and support one another. However, there was no large social functions such as Christmas and New Year's Eve Dances, or support group in place. In 1967 Mr. Joe De Souza - our future first President - put an ad in the Toronto Star and the now defunct Toronto Telegram calling on all people of Goan origin to come together with the purpose of forming a Goan community centre. His first respondents were officers of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP). The RCMP wanted to check out the antecedents of the advertiser, what "Goan" meant and the need and purpose of setting up such a centre. They left reassured that this was no revolutionary movement. The advertisement did not draw a favourable response from the small Goan community of less than 100 families at that time. The new immigrants were obviously devoting their time and energies in organizing their own lives instead of pooling in their efforts with those few set to work for the welfare of the community. Later in 1967, when Canada was celebrating one hundred years as a Dominion, some people of Indo-Pakistani origin - including Goans - organized the Pioneers Club and held the first dance around Christmas time. The scope of the Pioneers was limited to a single dance during the Christmas Season and there were no formal elections. In 1968, Alvito Fernandes, Leo Lopes and Savio Barros started organizing a few dances for Goans to meet. Alvito also organized a "Bachelors versus Marrieds" sports day in 1969 (which he would repeat under the auspices of the GOA the following year). These occasions were primarily attended by Goans from East Africa. Perhaps the strongest force that brought many Goans together was the desire to form a Goan hockey team. This may seem surprising to the uninitiated, but Hockey had acquired cultural overtones among diasporan Goans. It became the medium we chose to express ourselves, as colonial and third-world pressures once made political expression difficult. No wonder that we played it with such an intensity and hence are represented in numbers way beyond our proportions in countries like India, Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda (at one time), Pakistan, and now Canada. Back in Toronto in 1968, some like Leo Lopes would organize practices amo
Re: [Goanet] Back after 7 days and 7 nights..
JoeGoaUk wrte: > Yes, back on GN after 7 days of self imposed exile in protest against GN for > not going by it’s ground rules... JoeGoaUk, Nothing has changed. Its no use gong on a hunger strike if it is not going to make a change. Mervyn3.0 __ Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php
[Goanet] Goanet's 14th Anniversary -- August 25, 2008
Dear Goanetters, Another year has flown by and today is Goanet's 14th anniversary. I'd like to thank each and every one of you for your continued support in making this possible. We owe a great deal of thanks to our dedicated volunteers who put in a lot of work behind the scenes. They are: Frederick 'FN' Noronha (Goa, India) Bosco D'Mello (Toronto, Canada) Viviana Coelho (San Francisco, USA) Christina Pinto (Australia) Avelino D'Souza (Kuwait) Two of our volunteers deserve special mention. Frederick Noronha and Bosco D'Mello have been the pillars of Goanet. They have both gone way beyond their call of duty. Many thanks to those of you who support Goanet through volunteering, making donations, promoting Goanet at events or on your websites, and contributing to discussions on Goanet. Goanet needs your support to grow. We will need you this year more than ever as we expand our services. We will need your donations and time volunteering more than anything. I hope that you will rise to the task when the time comes. Goanet is a non-profit organization that provides a free and valuable service to the community. If you benefit from the service we provide think about your part in supporting us to make this possible. Make a donation to Goanet regularly, no matter how small. Each little bit helps us with maintenance costs. It's easy, just go to the Goanet homepage and click on the button "Make a Donation". Thank you all for your continued support. We hope you enjoy Goanet and that you will continue your support for us. Viva Goa! -- Herman Herman Carneiro Founder and Chairman www.Goanet.org Where Goans Connect!
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Re: [Goanet] Origin of words
Origin of words Vidyadhar Gadgil says.. Quite right, Joe, such posts need to be condemned, and I join with you in registering protest. But why be selective about it? I have yet to hear you protest about Rajan's numerous vituperative and abusive posts. JoeGoaUK replies: Thank you V Gadgil for coming back on this topic. Well, if I appear to be a selective about it then it must be the following two reasons: 1. I do not read all the posts from GN (av. 50 per day) nor I get it into my inbox as I read it from GN archive from where I can pick up those which interest me by the subject line or by the author. The above post caught my eyes as there was a discussion on the similar subjectline in which I have also taken part. 2. May be the posts were not in a crystal clear English or simple English. I can see that some use this FREE forum to display their English language power. I admit, I am not an intellectual and I remember requesting more than once on this forum to use simple, plain and crystal clear English. If you or anyone come across such incidences like name calling etc (past and future) just register it with GN also cc to JoeGoaUk. Let's help to maintain or improve the quality of GN Thanks once again. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] DABOLIM AIRPORT SUFFERS SETBACK
--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Freddy Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's talk about the Navy, one good question, what is it, that the Navy > is doing, in Goa that cannot be done from the Seabird at > Karwar ? Any guesses ? Do we really need the Navy at Dabolim ? The navy is not needed in Dabolim and can manage out of Karwar freeing up Dabolim for civilian aviation use. The proposed Mopa airport is a land scam which must be opposed. Regards, George
[Goanet] Shravan entry to play National B Chess tournament likely to be rejected without any reason
Barve's fears are without any rhyme or reason. I met Sameer Salgaocar during the finals of a Major Ranking Table Tennis Tournament held on Sunday and contrary to what Barve may feel, while discussing the State Chess championships that are underway in Porvorim, the "GSCA President" had a positive word or two to say about the performance of Barve's son. For the records, the GSCA has reduced the entry Fee for the National B Championships from Rs 6000/- to Rs 4000/-, so that the number of entries from Goa will go up. Instead of lauding the "GSCA" for this, Barve continues to tread along a foolish path. Making such kinds of unsubstantiated allegations, splashing various forums with his rantings and sending unsolicited mails to all and sundry in the chess world has been Barve's modus operandi for some time now. Every action meets with an equal and opposite reaction. These are the laws of physics and they cannot be challenged. Mr. Barve may feel that everybody is conspiring against him but he does not realize that he has today become a victim of his own actions. Now, he needlessly drags his son into what is essentially his spat with the "AICF" while making, once again, wild and imaginary insinuations against the Chess Body. A stubborn Barve may never learn but I hope he leaves his son out of all this. I am sure the "AICF" will not be foolish enough to penalize the son for the father's actions. Cheers Sandeep
[Goanet] Discussion on Official Language Act 1987 in the Goa Assembly
Dears, After 21 years of the Official Language Act, 1987, the readers and writers of Konkani in the Roman script are NOT dead ...they are increasing! Some of those who wanted to give facilities to the Roman script writers of the language for twenty years are dead or within handshaking distance of Yama Raj. Roman script is not about script or linguistic chauvinism. Rather, it is a very inclusive movement. After all is said and done, Roman script is used by more languages in the world than any other script. It is even the script of the computer and cyberspace. English, German, French, Turkish, Pidgin, Creaole, Latin, Spanish ...and even Bollywood sub-titles are written in Roman script. Did the MLAs stumble on some truth when they fumbled about "Romani" language while talking about Konkani? Miguel --- On Mon, 25/8/08, renebarreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: renebarreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Discussion on Official Language Act 1987 in the Goa Assembly Date: Monday, 25 August, 2008, 11:20 PM Discussion on Official Language Act 1987 in the Goa Assembly On Monday, 25 August 2008, in Goa Legislative Assembly during ‘Demands’, eight members Including the Chief Minister Digambar Kamat spoke on the Official Language Act 1987. The demand for discussion of this topic was laid before the house by Mr. Manohar Parrikar, Leader of the Opposition. Dy. Speaker Mr. Mauvin Godinho was the first person to speak on this topic. He was followed by Mrs. Victoria Feranandes (St. Cruz), Mr. Agnelo Fernandes (Calangute), Mr. Alexio Reginaldo Lourenço (Curtorim), Mr. Manohar Parrikar, Mr. Dayanand Mandrekar (Siolim), Mr. Francisco Silveira and Chief Minister. All the speakers were in favour of giving its due place to Roman script in the Official Language Act. Parrikar was the best speaker. He had done thorough home work. One could see this the way he spoke and presented the matter in the house. He suggested to form a committee comprising MLAs , Marathi protagonists and Roman script Protagonists and within two months to come to a consensus on the language issue and to settle it based on the views of the majority. Three of the Catholic MLAs who spoke in favour of Roman script were using terms like “Romani bhas”, “Romi bhas”, “Romi Konknni”. They did not know there are no such notions. In Goa Konknni is written in two scripts, Devanagari and Roman scripts and they use two different dialects, namely, Antruzi and Bardeshi. Mandrekar made a statement that Devanagari script is the mother of all scripts and it is the script of Sanskrit. He and many others do not know the history of Indian scripts. Brahmi was the first Indian script and all other Indian scripts were modification of it. Devanagari script evolved only in 900 A. D. Since Sanskrit was written in many scripts, in 1857 the British decided to make the Devanagari script the official script of Sanskrit to teach it as a subject in Calcutta, Madras and Bombay Universities. Sanskrit was and is written in a number of script. While replying to the Demands, the CM said that he is ready to discuss this issue and to find satisfactory solution once and for all for the good of Goa and Goans. On Friday 29th August Parrikar’s private member resolution to constitute a committee of representatives of MLS, supporters of Roman script and supporters of Marathi will be discussed in the house. One has to wait and see what the government will do to settle the long standing demand of Roman script supporters. Pratap Naik, S.J. = = = = = Can some one enlighten us on these issues - .. WHY should MARATHI be the subject of discussion - Is MARATHI the official language of GOA - ? WHAT did the CATHOLIC MLA s have to say - it would be interesting to read what the CATHOLIC MLA s have to SAY? rene barreto - WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS WORLD GOA DAY - celebrated in GOA. http://www.children walkingtall. com/Pictures/ 9-6.htm WORLD GOA DAY - VIVA GOA - CRYSTAL PALACE UK http://good- times.webshots. com/album/ 565585700qIqAdY = = = = = Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/
[Goanet] Mega Nest - Taleigao (Letter to Goan Media)
-- Forwarded message -- From: Arwin Mesquita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2008/8/25 Subject: Letter to the Editor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goans should condemn/oppose, the false criminal complaint & harassment, of the Taleigao Bachao Activist, Ms Shanti Almeida by the Pro Mega Project Anti-Socials; who appear to be getting desperate. Least we forget, the supreme leader of these anti-socials, was the architect of the disputed regional plan. It should come as no surprise that the toughest battle vs. Mega-Projects will be in Taleigao. Goans "If at all Evil Triumphs, it will be because we did not say or do anything". We need to strongly support The Taleigao Bachao Abhiyan to cut this evil from its nest; together nothing can stop us!! Arwin Mesquita, UAE. -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/
[Goanet] DABOLIM AIRPORT SUFFERS SETBACK
Dear Philip, My point is simply this: MOPA is going to happen, like it or lump it. It is there in the Interim Report of the Task Force on RPG 2021 at page 72. What we need to debate is what model of an airport we want there. There is no point in fighting like the Konkan Railway Realignment Committee [KRRAC was a correct acronym for what it did]. The better idea would have been to be a part of the solution and ensure that the stations were more conveniently located, that the train schedules were more convenient and that more trains originated from Goa. We pride ourselves as being a major tourist destination and are happy to have trains just passing through ...with timing convenient for burglers and the like , in the wee hours of the morning! The only way to stop Mopa airport is to find someone with a prospecting licence or cook up a 'Titulo de Concessao' to show a mining concession exists for the plateau. Pay Rs.3/- per square metre towards surface rights and Wsh! the airport disappears like a dream. Sujay Gupta will run an OPinionatED for you and Derek Almeida will interview you and/or write a humoutorial in the Sunday edition. You will get sound bytes on Prudent and become an Oscar-winning hero overnight. for everything there is a price tag. I am not Joaquim or joking, there is a joker who is willing to operate the TC for you and a trinity to provide you infrastructure and logistics for export. there are even takers for a minor port at Tiracol. Hurry, the Regional Plan is schedule to be out on 31 August. For a proper price you could possibly paint Mopa red. This is the third millenium of the bread of life. The time is ripe to make cakes and eat them, too. Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:03:07 +0530 From: "Philip Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] DABOLIM AIRPORT SUFFERS SETBACK Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It may be better to debate and go in with eyes wide open than get collectively screwed in a blissful state of ignorance. Sure it is about money. What's wrong with that? It is also about making an intellectual effort when there is an opportunity and trying to ensure transparency and accountability on the part of those "few" whoever they may be. Dont shed crocodile tears about Goa if the latter cant be attempted or achieved, ok? -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Orissa dumb-heads
In Orissa, three VHP leaders were killed. They were sent a threat letter; they duely filed an FIR. Police did nothing. Two days later, they were killed. Today, there was a bandh in Orissa, and what do you think the Hindu fundamentalists did ? They burnt a nun alive; razed 12 churches to the ground. If it was not for the tragedy, it looks more like a joke. I wonder where the brains of these Hindu fundamentalists are. I mean even if they had some brains in their knees, they would have done better. And the real killers of the VHP leaders must be laughing away. regards, Samir
[Goanet] Discussion on Official Language in the Goa Assembly
Discussion on Official Language Act, 1987, in the Goa Assembly On Monday, 25 August 2008, in Goa Legislative Assembly during discussion on 'Demands' of the Home and other ministries, eight members including the Chief Minister, Digambar Kamat, spoke on the Official Language Act, 1987. Dy. Speaker and MLA of Cortalim, Mr. Mauvin Godinho, was the first person to speak on this topic. He very forcefully articulated the demand for recognising the fact that 90% of the persons whoe read Konkani in Goa did so in the Roman script. A large number of periodicals [weekly, monthly and quarterly magazines] with large circulation and readership was proof enough, he said. The demand for discussion on this topic was laid before the House by Mr. Manohar Parrikar, Leader of the Opposition. Mr. Mauvin Godinho was followed by Mrs. Victoria Feranandes (St. Cruz), Mr. Agnelo Fernandes (Calangute), Mr. Alexio Reginaldo Lourenço (Curtorim), Mr. Manohar Parrikar, Mr. Dayanand Mandrekar (Siolim), Mr. Francisco Silveira and Chief Minister. All the speakers were in favour of giving its due place to Roman script in the Official Language Act. Mr. Manohar Parrikar was, perhaps, the best speaker. He had done thorough home work. One could see this the way he spoke and presented the matter in the House. He suggested that a committee comprising MLAs , Marathi protagonists and Konkani in Roman script protagonists be constituted and within two months to come to a consensus on the language issue and to settle it the issue. In Goa Konkani is written in two scripts, Devanagari and Roman scripts and they use two different dialects, namely, Antruzi and Bardeshi. Konkani scholar at the Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr, Porvorim, Dr. Pratap Naik SJ, informs that Brahmi was the first Indian script and all other Indian scripts were modification of it. Devanagari script evolved only in 900 A. D. Since Sanskrit was written in many scripts, in 1857 the British decided to make the Devanagari script the official script of Sanskrit to teach it as a subject in Calcutta, Madras and Bombay Universities. Sanskrit was and is written in a number of script. While replying to the Demands, the CM said that he is ready to discuss this issue and to find satisfactory solution once and for all for the good of Goa and Goans. On Friday 29th August Parrikar's private member resolution to constitute a committee of representatives of MLAs, supporters of Roman script and supporters of Marathi is scheduled to be discussed in the House. Many Konkani lovers are anxious to see what the government will do to settle the long standing demand of Roman script supporters. A few of them were in the visitors' gallery of the Assembly hall this evening. Miguel Braganza -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Re: [Goanet] Discussion on Official Language in the Goa Assembly
Very happy to see that finally the script issue is being discussed in the parliment. Konkani can servive only if Roman, Devnagiri and Kannada scripts are given due respect. In Goa Roman and Devnagiri both scripts should get equal status. People should be given allowed to choose the script they want to use. I assure my full hearted from Mumbai support in the movement to give equal status to Roman script along with Devnairi in Goa. With regards Ancy Paladka Ancy S. D'Souza, Paladka E2-139 Diwan Apt III Vasai Road East Thane Dist - 401 210 Tel: 0250-2390225 Cell: 9320733213 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 8/25/08, pratap naik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Discussion on Official Language Act 1987 in the Goa Assembly > On Monday, 25 August 2008, in Goa Legislative Assembly during 'Demands' 8 > members Including the Chief Minister Digambar Kamat spoke on the Official > Language Act 1987. The demand for discussion of this topic was laid before > the house by Mr. Manohar Parrikar, Leader of the Opposition. > > Dy. Speaker Mr. Mauvin Godinho was the first person to speak on this topic. > He was followed by Mrs. Victoria Feranandes (St. Cruz), Mr. Agnelo Fernandes > (Calangute), Mr. Alexio Reginaldo Lourenço (Curtorim), Mr. Manohar Parrikar, > Mr. Dayanand Mandrekar (Siolim), Mr. Francisco Silveira and Chief Minister. > All the speakers were in favour of giving its due place to Roman script in > the Official Language Act. Parrikar was the best speaker. He had done > thorough home work. One could see this the way he spoke and presented the > matter in the house. He suggested to form a committee comprising MLAs , > Marathi protagonists and Roman script Protagonists and within two months to > come to a consensus on the language issue and to settle it based on the views > of the majority. Three of the Catholic MLAs who spoke in favour of Roman > script were using terms like "Romani bhas", "Romi bhas", "Romi Konknni". > They did not know there are no such notions. In Goa Konknni is written in two > scripts, Devanagari and Roman scripts and they use two different dialects, > namely, Antruzi and Bardeshi. Mandrekar made a statement that Devanagari > script is the mother of all scripts and it is the script of Sanskrit. He and > many others do not know the history of Indian scripts. Brahmi was the first > Indian script and all other Indian scripts were modification of it. > Devanagari script evolved only in 900 A. D. Since Sanskrit was written in > many scripts, in 1857 the British decided to make the Devanagari script the > official script of Sanskrit to teach it as a subject in Calcutta, Madras and > Bombay Universities. Sanskrit was and is written in a number of script. > > While replying to the Demands, the CM said that he is ready to discuss this > issue and to find satisfactory solution once and for all for the good of Goa > and Goans. On Friday 29th August Parrikar's private member resolution to > constitute a committee of representatives of MLS, supporters of Roman script > and supporters of Marathi will be discussed in the house. One has to wait > and see what the government will do to settle the long standing demand of > Roman script supporters. > > > > Pratap Naik, S.J.
[Goanet] Discussion on Official Language in the Goa Assembly
Discussion on Official Language Act 1987 in the Goa Assembly On Monday, 25 August 2008, in Goa Legislative Assembly during ‘Demands’ 8 members Including the Chief Minister Digambar Kamat spoke on the Official Language Act 1987. The demand for discussion of this topic was laid before the house by Mr. Manohar Parrikar, Leader of the Opposition. Dy. Speaker Mr. Mauvin Godinho was the first person to speak on this topic. He was followed by Mrs. Victoria Feranandes (St. Cruz), Mr. Agnelo Fernandes (Calangute), Mr. Alexio Reginaldo Lourenço (Curtorim), Mr. Manohar Parrikar, Mr. Dayanand Mandrekar (Siolim), Mr. Francisco Silveira and Chief Minister. All the speakers were in favour of giving its due place to Roman script in the Official Language Act. Parrikar was the best speaker. He had done thorough home work. One could see this the way he spoke and presented the matter in the house. He suggested to form a committee comprising MLAs , Marathi protagonists and Roman script Protagonists and within two months to come to a consensus on the language issue and to settle it based on the views of the majority. Three of the Catholic MLAs who spoke in favour of Roman script were using terms like “Romani bhas”, “Romi bhas”, “Romi Konknni”. They did not know there are no such notions. In Goa Konknni is written in two scripts, Devanagari and Roman scripts and they use two different dialects, namely, Antruzi and Bardeshi. Mandrekar made a statement that Devanagari script is the mother of all scripts and it is the script of Sanskrit. He and many others do not know the history of Indian scripts. Brahmi was the first Indian script and all other Indian scripts were modification of it. Devanagari script evolved only in 900 A. D. Since Sanskrit was written in many scripts, in 1857 the British decided to make the Devanagari script the official script of Sanskrit to teach it as a subject in Calcutta, Madras and Bombay Universities. Sanskrit was and is written in a number of script. While replying to the Demands, the CM said that he is ready to discuss this issue and to find satisfactory solution once and for all for the good of Goa and Goans. On Friday 29th August Parrikar’s private member resolution to constitute a committee of representatives of MLS, supporters of Roman script and supporters of Marathi will be discussed in the house. One has to wait and see what the government will do to settle the long standing demand of Roman script supporters. Pratap Naik, S.J. Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/
[Goanet] About Goanet and its birthday
When I turned fourteen, I knew that I was a person in my own right quite apart from my parents. I knew from there on, I would have to chart my own course and I had a very strong sense of my own destiny. I suspect Goanet has had to undergo the same process of maturation in the last year. Whatever its original purpose and intent was, it now charts its own destiny. I couldn't let the day pass without wishing Goanet, many more purpose-driven years. I'm one of those people who is deeply grateful to Goanet. From the wonderful encouraging emails I get in my mail-box, to the friends I've made and met in real life, to the opportunities I've been presented with through friendships formed here in cybersphere. I can quite honestly say, I've had the good fortune never to meet a Goan crab, and always chance upon some helpful Goan soul who lifts me up. selma
[Goanet] Goanet Reader -- Diverse roots, varied challenges -- the Goan diaspora in the UK (Dr Eddie D'Sa, in Goa Aparanta...)
DIVERSE ROOTS, VARIED CHALLENGES: THE GOAN DIASPORA IN THE U.K. This essay is from the book 'Goa: Aparanta -- Land Beyond the End', edited by Victor Rangel Ribeiro [EMAIL PROTECTED], and reflects Dr Eddie D'Sa's analysis of Goans in Britain, and how their attitudes towards Goa have changed generation by generation. "In Britain, Feeling a Weaker Pull" (pages 210-12) is a very wise bit of writing, commented the editor of this book. By Eddie D'Sa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goans who have settled in the UK are not a homogeneous group, but the product of three different migration streams -- from India, Pakistan, and East Africa. Small batches of Goans came from India in the 1950s and early 1960s -- some were students who stayed on, others just sought a new life in Britain after India's independence in 1947. More might have come, but the Commonwealth Immigrants Act 1962 passed during Tory rule took away the right of Commonwealth immigrants to enter Britain freely. William Deedes, Minister without Portfolio at the time, admitted: "The Bill's real purpose was to restrict the influx of coloured immigrants from the Caribbean and Indian subcontinent. We were reluctant to say as much openly." It was the first overt act of state racism. The major wave of arrivals from East Africa came in the 1960s and 1970s. When Kenya, Uganda, and Tanzania became independent, many middle-tier jobs filled by Asians were 'Africanised', and Asians found themselves unemployed. Rather than take local citizenship, most British passport holders opted to settle in Britain. The influx began in earnest in the mid-1960s. Alarmed, the Labour government in just three days rushed through the Commonwealth Immigrants Act 1968, denying automatic right of entry to British Asian passport holders -- a second unashamedly racist piece of legislation. A strict quota or queue system was imposed; only those born in Britain or having a British parent or grandparent had the right to enter freely. When, in 1972, Uganda's President Amin expelled British Asians, Britain was forced to accept several thousands of them, but entry into Britain was largely confined to the spouses and other dependents of settlers. Between 15,000 and 20,000 Goans are concentrated in the greater London area, with a few thousand more in Leicester, and pockets in various other towns. Several have attained prominence in public service, among them Keith Vaz, Labour member of parliament for Leicester East, a constituency with more Gujeratis than Goans. He was more in the public eye as Minister for Europe until he resigned in 2001. Susan Rodrigues, formerly of Uganda, is probably the first Goan Director of Education in Scotland. In 1996, Joe D'Cruz, formerly a train driver in Kenya, became the first Goan mayor of Fishguard and Goodwick, a district in Wales. Other success stories: Patricia Rozario has won international fame as a soprano and the foremost interpreter of music by the widely respected English composer, John Tavener. Warren Noronha, aged 27, is an acclaimed London fashion designer. Stephen Dias, born in Karachi, is managing director at the top international investment bank, Goldman & Sachs. Lyndon Da Cruz, formerly of Kenya, is consultant at Moorfields Eye Hospital, London, world renowned for its treatment of eye disorders. Millionaires Tom and Melba Correia, formerly of Kenya and Uganda, who ran the tour operator firm, Hayes & Jarvis (now sold), still own a chain of hotels in Kenya and the Caribbean. Less well-known millionaire Denzyl Sequeira, formerly of Mombasa, has excelled in business computer sales and consultancy. A few such personalities aside, the community is not much in the public eye. However, lack of public exposure should not blind us to the anonymous thousands of Goans who make a living in the humbler trades and occupations -- and in the process contribute to keeping Britain going. LEADERSHIP LACK EMERGED IN 1990S Before we come to what attitudes prevail and how others change, let's look at a simplified model of the Goan community as it developed over three decades -- the 1970s, 80s, and 90s. Decade 1: The 1970s were a period of cautious adjustment to the British scene. Migration had reached its peak. Youngsters, getting their taste of British education, were exposed to peer pressures and the rampant indiscipline in state schools, including bullying and intimidation. Young adults were keen to acquire more qualifications and skills for the job market. Families were moving and adjusting to their new homes, new neighbours, and consumerist mores. This was the decade when Goans soon discovered the pervasive environment of discrimination and racism -- at school, in the workplace, and in public places. Decade 2: The 1980s were a period of consolidation. A high proport
[Goanet] Back after 7 days and 7 nights..
Yes, back on GN after 7 days of self imposed exile in protest against GN for not going by it’s ground rules... Thanks to those who wrote to me privately Check this out.. Watch Dog (Not from the failed CCP) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2793180789/sizes/l/ OK, what you may have missed during the 7 days in exile? Well, Divar Bonderam Pics & Video 23/8/08 Jamnashtami celebrations at Azad Maidan –Pic & Video (Handi breaking) Talking Photos: Concrete jungle The Cream, a Goan band playing Goan Music –Video Goa MLAs, Goa Ministers, Goa Govt., Goa Assembly, Goa Marriott etc Talking Photos: Anddo, Rogllo, antiques etc == You will find it elsewhere on the net group- see link below or ask someone to forward or repost it on GN. Happy Birthday to Goanet (belated) You are still my No.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] GOA: Lawyer's bid to clean Augean stable
To Goanet - First of all, kudos to Sudha. This begs a few questions - 1) Was this major scandal published in any of the local dailies? If not, why not? 2) What are all the "activists" going to do now? These are grounds for an all-Goa agitation to demand resignation of the 2 ministers and force a criminal inquiry. Are the "activists" up to it? 3) Shouldn't we be calling for a moratorium on all construction in Goa until a thorough investigation is launched and the impact of the land conversion scandals, building violations, environmental damage etc is assessed? For this is an endemic and NOT an isolated instance. r > Lawyer's bid to clean Augean stable > Devika Sequeira in Panaji > devikasequeira at gmail.com > > Deccan Herald, August 24, 2008 Sunday Features > > Pai Kir's complaint against the judge and the High Court's enquiry has > also brought to light the shocking complicity of the judge, a group of > lawyers and two ministers in the Goa Government in transacting an > illegal land deal. > > Exasperated by the level of corruption in the rural court where she > practised, lawyer Sudha Pai Kir moved her practice from Canacona, > South Goa to the High Court in Panaji. Almost two years on, the gritty > 33-year-old has much to celebrate. Her persistence to see justice done > has brought on the dismissal of a judge. > > In June this year, Chief Justice Swatantra Kumar of the Bombay High > Court sacked Judge Shekhar V Parab, who was posted at Canacona, for > "gross impropriety." > > Pai Kir's complaint against the judge for harassment which compelled > her to withdraw her practice in Canacona and the High Court's enquiry > has also brought to light the shocking complicity of the judge, a > group of lawyers and two ministers of the Goa Government in > transacting an illegal land deal. > > Ministers Vishwajeet Rane and Babush Monserrate were present with > Judge Parab in a five star hotel where some of the illiterate owners > were "forced" to hand over their property in Loliem, Canacona to a > Delhi hotel group, the enquiry revealed. > > The High Court's enquiry against Parab said: "During the course of > discreet enquiry conducted by V G Bisht, Registrar, High Court, > Appellate Side, Bombay, on the instructions of the Chief Justice, it > transpired that the son of an ex-chief minister of Goa was interested > in the property involved in RCS No 36/2002 and Parab had taken keen > interest in the settlement of the said suit for extraneous > considerations. It also transpired during the course of the discreet > enquiry, that Parab was present in the Hotel Intercontinental also > known as Diksha Hotel with Vishwajeet Rane, son of Pratapsingh Rane, > ex-chief minister of Goa, the sub-registrar and his clerk and others > at the time of execution of the sale deed of the land forming the > subject matter of RCS No 36/2002." > > One of the co-owners of the property Vishnu Chandru Gaonkar told the > enquiry officer that he was "forcibly made to put his signature on the > sale deed" executed in the five star hotel in the presence of the > dismissed judge, Rane, Monserrate, former MLA Isidore Fernandes and > lawyers Vijay Gaykar and Narayan M Dessai. > > "Thereafter, crores of rupees were distributed by the non-Goan party, > ie the purchaser to all others who were present in the said hotel." > Three other co-owners of the property told the enquiry that they were > also forced to sign the sale deed in the presence of Judge Parab. > > A subsequent criminal enquiry has been ordered by the courts here in > the same land deal against lawyer Narayan Dessai and eight of his > clients for forging the thumb impression of one of the co-owners, who > had expired. > > Like most pristine seaside taluks in Goa, Canacona has become the > focus of greedy land sharks and in danger of institutionalising a > network of corruption, warns Pai Kir. > > "This case is only a start in cleaning up the system. Immediate > measures are needed to set things right in Canacona," she says.
[Goanet] People more important than infrastructure --- Narayan Murthy
Mario wrote: > > Without the appropriate buildings and teachers and > modern equipment even the talent may become duds:- > )) Like a broken clock even politicians like > Digambar and Monserrate can be right sometimes:-)) > Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:39:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Samir Kelekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Mario, be careful making such arguments, because immediately 500 crores more will be spent for some new building and land grab using your argument. > Mario responds: > Samir, I was half-kidding and did not mean to cause a tempest in a teapot:-)) I also did not mean to encourage wasteful spending on new boondoggles at the expense of existing facilities. > My point was that one without the other cannot work, regardless of what Narayan Murthy SAYS. What is more important is what Narayan Murthy DOES, which is to provide a welcoming infrastructure for the talent he seeks to attract. This is what is lacking in Goa and much of India, though I think things are continuing to improve, slowly but surely. > Of course, the biggest problem in India and Goa are corrupt politicians, WHO KEEP GETTING ELECTED, who are the "talent" in charge, whereas superior talent like Narayan Murthy's is not available to run for election and bring their talents to bear at the government level. > Thank God you still have Manmohan Singh in New Delhi. > Mario Goveia wrote: > > There seems to be a tendency in this thread so far > to confuse well managed private corporations with a > chaotic democratic state like Goa. > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:53:15 +0530 From: "Philip Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This response seems to confuse the purpose of exemplars such as well managed MNCs for the improvement of functioning anarchies like Goa. > Mario observes: > The only Goanetters who were confused by my post were those who took some of my comments out of context. > BTW, while there is bureaucratic and political corruption in Goa, the last time I checked, Goa did not meet any of the criteria that defines anarchy, so everyone calm down and avoid unnecessary hyperbole. > Philip wrote: > The MNCs (including India's Infosys) did not emerge in a vacuum. They had their roots in society. The best of them wove threads from family, schools, military and even religion into their precepts and practices and they cooperated with government or rivals to achieve challenging societal goals. The countries "arrived" on the global scene on the backs of these corporations (again including Infosys). > Mario asks: > How does this theoretical opinion of how Infosys "emerged" have anything to do with how an autocratic corporation is organised and run versus how a democratic state is organised and run, or their completely different responsibilities? > "Achieve challenging societal goals"??? Is this what a corporation's mission is? To begin with, who in a democracy gets to define "societal goals"??? Secondly, the last time I checked, a publicly held corporation's primary mission in a non-socialist society is to optimize the value of their stock. > "The countries 'arrived' on the global scene on the backs of these corporations"??? The last time I checked these countries and their democratic principles and structure had arrived on the global scene way before most of these corporations, many of which may not have existed in anything like their current form without the Manmohan Singh-inspired liberalization of India's economy from the strangling tentacles of extreme socialism. > Philip wrote: > It is disingenuous to suggest that Goa has nothing to learn from exemplars simply because it is believed to be somehow completely "unique" in the universe. (I personally dont think Goa is so hidebound. It is just not properly advised by its own people.) > Mario responds: > In my opinion, it is naive to believe that Narayan Murthy was speaking literally. Besides, there was nothing unique in what he "said" in ranking talent above infrastructure. Corporate leaders do that all the time, because it sounds good to the talent whereas the infrastructure cannot hear what he is saying:-)) > However, as I pointed out, this is like ranking an automobile engine above the automobile. One is useless without the other. > Goa's problem is that someone like Narayan Murthy is not running it. They are stuck with Digambar Kamath and Babush Monserrate, whose elections show what most voters in Goa seem to want. >
[Goanet] Catholic Priest tortured and killed in Andhra Pradesh
There is a systematic campaign of disinformation, defamation and violence, against the Christian minority community in India, by right-wing fundamentalist extremist groups. The following news has not been published by any Indian newspaper or website till date. Please email this report to others, to ensure that this atrocity does not pass in silence. Catholic Priest tortured and killed in Andhra Pradesh http://www.theindiancatholic.com/report.asp?nid=11098HYDERABAD (ICNS): "The missionary priest who was killed in Andhra Pradesh on the 16th of August suffered multiple head injures and more than 30 stabbings. It took place in a region with "a history of antisocial and communal disturbances," says Anthoniraj Thumma, executive secretary of Andhra Pradesh Federation of Churches. The following statement from him gives more details about the incident. The Christian Community in Andhra Pradesh was once again terribly shaken by the brutal murder of one of its pastors and missionaries. A series of massacres of pastors in recent years had left the Churches in the State in anguish. Fr. Thomas Pandipally, aged 38, a Catholic Priest working in the Archdiocese of Hyderabad, was ruthlessly assassinated on the night of August 16th 2008 on the way back to his residence after the Eucharistic service at a substation of Yellareddy parish, in Nizamabad District, Andhra Pradesh. Fr. Thomas Pandipally CMI was born in the year 1971 to late Mr. Mathew and Mrs. Saramma at Monippally in Kottayam district, Kerala. He joined the religious order of the Carmelite Missionaries of Immaculate (CMI) in the mission province of Chanda with its headquarters at Bellampally in Adilabad (Dt) in the year 1987 and took his first religious vows in 1992. He completed his B.Sc in Christ College, Bangalore, from 1994 to 1997. He did his studies in Philosophy in Darshana Institute, Wardha, and completed his Theological studies at Jnana Deepa Vidyapeeth, Pune. After his college and priestly studies he was ordained a priest in the year 2002. Fr. Thomas Pandipally had rendered his services as assistant director of a hospital at Bamini, Ballarshah district in Maharashtra. At the time of his death, he was the parish priest of St. Francis of Assisi Church and correspondent of Jeevadan High School, established in 1976, at Yellareddy. He was residing with Fr. Tomy Layippally CMI, the principal of Jeevadan High School. Fr. Thomas was known to be a pleasant and kind person who would not hurt anyone. He was very generous and service-minded. He was always ready to undertake demanding tasks even in life threatening circumstances and dangerous locations. As a zealous parish priest, Fr. Thomas Pandipally was celebrating Mass in different sub-stations throughout the week apart from his responsibility in the school. On August 16, 2008 he had left Yellareddy to celebrate Mass at Burigidda near Lingampet. Fr. Thomas had gone to the convent at Lingampet at 7.15 p.m. on his Hero Honda motorbike. From there he went to Burigidda to celebrate Mass and returned to Lingampet at 9.00 p.m. At this moment, he received a phone call on his mobile enquiring in Telugu about the time of his return to Yellareddy. Sr. Dona FCC overheard the conversation of Fr. Thomas answering that he would proceed to Yellareddy at 9.30 p.m. after his dinner. On August 17, 2008 the sisters from Lingampet on their way to attend Sunday Mass at the parish church at Yellareddy at 6.45 a.m. in their jeep passed by a body lying on the road. They proceeded further to inform the parish priest about "the accident". On reaching the Yellareddy parish, the sisters were surprised to hear Fr. Thomas had not returned back to his residence from Lingampet the previous night. The sisters rushed back to the spot of offence where the dead body was lying and identified it as the body of Fr. Thomas brutally stabbed to death. Immediately the police station at Lingampet was contacted by Sr. Dona where a case was registered under the section 302 of IPC and the investigation started. There were more than 30 stab injuries all over the body of Fr. Thomas, especially at the abdomen. His head was hit with sticks and boulders and the skull was split open. All over his faces, on his eyes, lips and cheeks, deep wounds were found. His motor cycle was thrown in the bushes about 4 kms away. He was done to death at a hidden place far away place in the forest and his body was brought back and thrown in the middle of the road. Due to heavy rain the foot prints were washed away so much so the police dog squad brought in later could not trace the spot of murder. On hearing the sad news, Archbishop Marampudi Joji of Hyderabad rushed to the spot with Fr. Alex Raju, the legal advisor of the Archdiocese, and other priests. He met the higher officials and the police officers and insisted that proper enquiry be conducted to bring out the truth and render justice. Meanwhile, Fr. A
[Goanet] Press note from Goa Su-Raj Party Re: Minorities and Majorities.
The Goa Su-Raj Party is intrigued by two reports appearing in the newspapers concurrently with the following headlines: 1. NCP convention asks govt to implement Sachar report (on Minorities). 2. Parrikar urges minorities to return BJP back to power. First, the NCP is part of the UPA coalition government at the Center and therefore it can easily work towards the end that it seeks rather than voice its demands at petty meetings. Second, the BJP in Goa is clearly seen as trying its best to woo the 'Muslim' vote and begging the so called 'minorities' to return it to power once again. The moot question to Shri. Manohar Parrikar is: 'If the majority is with you, why do you need the minority?' The Goa Su-Raj Party refuses to recognize minorities and majorities in the context of 'governance' and believes that every individual citizen is entitled to his/her rights irrespective of his/her faith, to be true to the SECULAR spirit of the Indian Constitution, and therefore, denounces the see-through attempts by political parties to fool the people at all times with their hidden agendas of appeasements in order to occupy the seats of power. The Goa Su-Raj Party believes that people have basic intelligence to identify the 'wolf' even if it tries to pass off as the 'sheep' donning sheep's clothing. Floriano Lobo General Secretary & Spokesman, Goa Su-Raj Party Telephone: 2266111 / 2470223 / 9890470896 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Goanet] Sameer cannot be called communal
*Hi, I hope this is not a political issue to malign the image of Mr.Sameer Salgaocar. Let me be clear that I am Chairman of Maharashtra Chess Association and do not poke my nose into the politics of Goa Chess Association. However being coach of both Ivana and Bhakti, i cannot but help to comment on these allegations. I have seen Sameer interacting with all the parents. He genuinely helps all the deserving players irrespective of their cast and religion. He has even helped Women Grandmaster Mary Ann Gomes from Kolkata. I hope this will clear the misunderstandings on these issues. The parents of both the kids will themselves vouch for Sameer's secular status. ...Raghunandan Gokhale.* -- Raghunandan Gokhale Chess Coach, Recipient of Dronacharya Award & Chairman,Maharashtra Chess Association.
[Goanet] Catholic nun burnt alive in Orissa
Catholic nun burnt alive in Orissa Hindu mobs attacked churches and vehicles in several parts of Orissa Monday as a statewide shutdown called by the VHP to protest the killing of a leader of the organisation came into effect Bargarh (Orissa): A Catholic nun was burnt alive by agitators in Orissa today. The nun was working in an orphanage and it was also burnt down in the attack. Hindu mobs attacked churches and vehicles in several parts of Orissa Monday as a statewide shutdown called by the VHP to protest the killing of a leader of the organisation came into effect impacting rail and road traffic. At least two churches were attacked in the districts of Bargarh and Jajpur, police said. "Some churches have been attacked and there are reports of sporadic violence," state Inspector General of Police Pradeep Kapoor told IANS. Rail and road traffic was disrupted across the state and thousands of people staged demonstrations in several places. The protesters also burnt more than half a dozen vehicles in separate incidents, police said. "Train services have been affected across the state," J.P. Mishra, spokesperson of the east coast railway, told IANS. "Neither passenger nor goods trains were allowed to move from stations." Road traffic was badly hit and many vehicles were attacked. "Protesters damaged at least five vehicles, two in Rourkela and three in the coastal district of Balasore," a police official said. Thousands of protesters staged demonstrations and burnt tyres in several villages, towns and on national highways. Almost all shops and petrol pumps remained closed. Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati, a member of VHP's central advisory committee, and four other people were killed at his Jalespata ashram, some 340 km from here in communally volatile Kandhamal district, Saturday evening after more than 30 suspected Maoist rebels opened fired on them. According to Director General of Police Gopal Chandra Nanda, the attackers used "sophisticated rifles and AK-47." Saraswati was leading a campaign against cow slaughter and religious conversion in the communally sensitive Kandhamal district. The district, with a population of around 600,000 including 150,000 Christians, has witnessed numerous clashes between Hindus and Christians in the past. Saraswati's supporters have been holding protests since Saturday night, blocking trains and vehicles. On Sunday, at least three prayer houses were burnt by a mob in Kandhamal and a police outpost was attacked. Ten houses in Rupagaon village were also set on fire. The Orissa government Sunday ordered a judicial probe into the killings and announced compensation for the victims. Authorities also constituted a special police team to investigate the crime. (Report in MSN.com)
[Goanet] Final reminder for Goa Day 2008
Dear Members & Friends, Attached is the Goa Day Flyer. This is our final reminder, please purchase your tickets ASAP, we are closinf on Thursday 28th August 2008 Tickets are available from the Executive committee members or you can book by emailing me. NOTE. NO TICKETS WILL BE SOLD AT THE GATE! We are still appealing for donations in kind or cash for the raffle prizes. Regards, Joyce For GWS -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: [Goanet] Lourdes Miracles - Faith or God in action
For a scientist Santosh, you have written a particularly unscientific reply. Unless you are a Saldanha apologist, there was no need to drag Lisette Saldanha, the Goan Convention, and settling of scores into this thread at all. In what was a Faith thread, all I said was that faith was worn as a badge of learning in your case and as a social statement badge by Kevin. I then went on to explain what faith meant to those of us who have it. Why should we let you atheists go unchallenged in debate? We have the right to express our viewpoint also. You should have just answered for yourself. Not inserted global economics or your commonality (or lack thereof) with Kevin into this as it had no relevance at all. Oh by the way, you do have something in common with Kevin which is why I mentioned him. You two are the most often professed non-believers on this forum. Cheers to you too mate, Roland. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know why Saldanhas are brought up in this thread when no Saldanha has > participated in it. If Roland is using this thread as another excuse to > settle scores with Kevin and Lisette Saldanha because of his personal issues > with them then I would kindly request him not involve me in his petty > squabbles. I have nothing to do with the recent Toronto Goan convention, and > I have very little in common with Kevin.
[Goanet] CONGRATULATIONS TO FR. SIMON DINIZ
I would like to CONGRATULATE Fr. Simon DIniz who has recently been awarded the PhD Degree by Karnataka University, Dharwad, for his thesis titled, "A Comparative Study of College Students under Parents and Guardians in Relation to their Self-Concept, Adjustment, Social Competence and Achievement Motivation". He was highly applauded by his superiors for the wonderful thesis. He was guided in his doctoral research by Dr. P S Halyal, Professor of Psychology of Karnataka University. Fr. Diniz has secured his Masters Degree in Clinical Psychology from the Pune University. A Diocesan priest, Fr Diniz is the lecturer in Psychology at his Alma Mater, St Xavier's College, Mapusa since 1995. He is associated with the Diocesan Family Service Centre of the Metropolitan Archdiocese of Goa and Daman. Keep the good work that you are doing in the vineyard of the Lord CONGRATULATIONS FR, SIMON. Arlette Azavedo
[Goanet] Mess at Goa University exposed......
Dr. Nandakumar Kamat brings up details on Goa University being proposed to be converted into Central University on Navhind Times today. To read this please click the below link. http://www.navhindtimes.com/story.php?story=2008082530 For those who have problem with internet, this is what Dr. Nandakumar has to say on Goa University. Goa Deprived of New World-Class University by NANDKUMAR KAMAT THIS is a humiliating development for Goa with immense implications for Goa's knowledge economy and knowledge ecology. At present Goans have too many problems and public issues at hand and have no priority to discuss the future and fate of higher education. Goa is a famous international tourist destination with high percentage of literacy and contributes Rs 10,000 crore to the central government's revenue annually. As compared to states which have bagged 16 world class universities, Goa pays the highest per capita taxes and earns the highest per capita foreign exchange for the country but now it appears that the Ministry of Human resources development (MHRD) has applied its own educational Gadgil-Mukherjee formula to unjustifiably exclude Goa from the list of locations of the 16 new world class universities despite Goa's intrinsic merit, international image and the solid backing of Goa's well placed NRI community for any venture that has international dimension and magnitude. The Goan government and our visionless political establishment owe an explanation to the people. They should tell us specifically what Goa lacks which states like Orissa, Bihar, Madhya Pradesh, Rajastan claim to have to get new world class universities. The central government also did not consider Goa favorably for the establishment of any of the eight new IITs and seven new IIMs that have been bagged by other states possibly because their governments and MPs did good lobbying at the center. Ultimately crumbs would be thrown in Goa's begging bowl if the ill-conceived idea of the so called upgradation of Goa University materialises as per the allegedly secretive plan taking shape since November 2007, bypassing the state cabinet and the Goa legislative assembly. What is the use of seminars and debates if the central government has already drafted the bill to take over Goa University? On August 7, the MHRD said that - In three states, existing state universities would be taken over by the Central government and converted into Central universities. These are Dr Hari Singh Gaur University, Sagar (Madhya Pradesh), Guru Ghasidas University, Bilaspur (Chhattisgarh), and Goa University. Gaur University was originally a private university and Ghasidas University is in a backward area. Did anyone raise the question as to whether other state governments wasted their time in discussing the suitability or unsuitability of getting IITs, IIMs and new central and world-class universities? Did they submit detailed feasibility reports to the MHRD? If we compare the sequence of the events and the developments behind them before the MHRD made the announcement (Eight IITs, Seven IIMs, 16 central and 14 world class universities) with the tame proposal of Goa government allegedly clearing take over of a state university, then it would be seen that in fact Goa would be the ultimate loser. Of course as has been shown by the delayed unrest over SEZs in Goa, it would take some time for the truth to sink in and the society to wake up holistically and respond democratically. The Goa government should have been emphatic on its stand by making it clear to MHRD that - if educationally and economically less advanced states with poor English and technical literacy are getting new IITs, IIMs, central and world class universities then why not Goa? Is not the National Institute of Oceanography (NIO), a success story? Has not Goa accommodated a fully autonomous Goa institute of Management (GIM) and another private sector higher educational campus - the BITS Pilani - Goa campus despite jurisdictional restrictions imposed by the Goa University Act, 1984? The Goa government never came out with a policy on privatisation of higher education. The government has not been able to control the selling of degrees by private correspondence colleges. There is a proliferation of private profit making institutions in Goa that are not controlled by either UGC or AICTE and agents who advertise to sell degrees at a price. Actually this is the major reason why the seats in some post graduate departments in Goa University remain vacant. The students now patronise private agents to get themselves graduate and postgraduate degrees in almost any subject including the sciences. There is no need for attendance and almost everyone clears the examinations. So why they should apply to Goa University if they have agents assuring them the degrees with less efforts? At least one thousand students every year including some teachers are using this means to complete the post graduation. Did the state governmen
[Goanet] Lourdes miracles
(a) In response to this from me: As a practising Roman Catholic and a believer in the occurence of un-explained cures /recovery from what was previously believed to be incurable ilnesses (i.e. miracles), (b) edward desilva responded thus: So, you have not heard of unexplained miracles happening to people of other religion, including atheists? == jc's response: 1. It must be that Engish is a difficult language to comprehend or that 2: (as Nehru put it) Goans are ageeb or else 3: On what basis Edward jump to the above conclusion? No other explanation for edward's inexplicable and totally bizzare response to what I wrote except that it (edward's response) may be a miracle sincerely jc
[Goanet] W.O.A International to launch Australian rockers Risemann in India.
W.O.A International to launch Australian rockers Risemann in India. W.O.A International through its Artist Management division signs on Australian band Risemann to a 3 Year management deal. Goa, India - August 24, 2008 - W.O.A International proudly announces the signing of Australian upcoming stars Risemann. A three piece band that is creating a new blend of music and breaking barriers when it comes to genre's. The band is now all set to break boundaries and take on the Indian subcontinent & the Middle East with their emotionally charged music. "With the signing of Risemann we are sticking to our belief that original music, like the music made by Risemann, is something we support and believe in completely and we will keep bringing amazing artists like these to fans in India and the Middle East" says Wanda Alvares, Executive Vice President / Head of Marketing, "with the launch of W.O.A Radio next month, our reach to the world is increasing and our artists have everything in-house to reach their goals and get their music to the large number of fans that are waiting to hear original music like this." Risemann is a dynamic outfit with a sound that exceeds it's expected 3 piece boundaries. Consisting of Nathan Hein on guitar and vocals, Neil Pearce on bass and keyboard, and Joel Stibbard on drums/percussion, three very different individuals who met by chance, and believed in fate. "Risemann has no boundaries and lives in no genre of music, much like the emotions and actions of life" says Nathan Hein, the bands front man. The next evolution of music has arrived, the evolution of Risemann. The deal with W.O.A Management will see the band touring India and the Middle East and getting their music released worldwide. With the excellent and one of a kind support system for Independent musicians that consists of W.O.A Events, W.O.A Artiste management group, W.O.A Records, W.O.A Radio and W.O.A Music marketing, Risemann is certain to reach great heights in these regions and worldwide. With the W.O.A Records India Tour 2009 around the corner, the fans here await for the new Indie Gods to bring their music to India. With artists like Risemann on the W.O.A Roster the fans are in for a treat. ABOUT W.O.A INTERNATIONAL Formed in 1998 by World Music star Oliver Sean, W.O.A International is a global entertainment company that continues to lead the way when it comes to how music should be promoted. They are pioneering international music in India and Asia and are now synonymous with the region. Their enviable reputation at opening up new possibilities means that they are the go-to company for independent artists wishing a truly international presence. SOURCE: www.woarecords.com Goanet A&E - http://www.goanet.org
[Goanet] SPORTS: Even with the wind in his sails, Derek Menezes can't dream of the Olympics
EVEN WITH THE WIND IN HIS SAILS, DEREK MENEZES CAN'T DREAM OF THE OLYMPICS >From Pamela D'Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Asian Age At yet another Olympics, the country is asking itself why? what did we do wrong, what do we need to do right to do ourselves proud at the international games. Yet, potential champions in India have learnt the hard way that an Olympic bid takes money, time, practice, and backing that is all too often not forthcoming. Our correspondent, caught up with India's reticent windsurfing champion, Derek Menezes, who in a 2006 world championship finished ninth in the world, but had never been sent to an Olympics, despite winning the national windsurfing gold medal thirteen times. Menezes was unwilling to tread into the murky waters of the sporting world, content to have spent 25 years of his life, pursuing a sport he loved, for the sheer joy of it. Pamela D'Mello, drew him out to get a glimpse of what can be done, if we are to get anywhere in the future... PdM: You won again for the thirteenth time in the windsurfing national's in May 2008. Shouldn't you have got sent to the Olympics? If your writing your article from the point of view of was I denied the chance to go to the Olympics, I would say no, I would not have even attempted it, because I was away a year in Indonesia, and it just so happened that I came down in April 2008, I put in a bit of practice, and probably because the winds and waters were more suited to my conditions, I easily won the nationals in Windsurfing, held in May 2008 in Goa. But that does not mean I could have gone for the Olympics. If I were to make a serious Olympic campaign, then for the past year, year and a half or two years, I should have been attending all the international A class regattas on the circuit, qualified properly, and been in the groove, you know. Then it is fair to say I could have gone for such an event. It has to be a serious campaign , not just for the party you know. PdM: In the past, have you been sent for the Olympics? You've been the national windsurfing champion twelve of thirteen times. In the past no, I haven't been sent. Because in yachting, I do windsurfing, and the windsurfing association always got the back seat. Because it is a civilian body and not one run by the services, like the army or navy, who are the drivers for yachting in India. The Yachting Association of India has many classes, like windsurfing, Finn, optimist... The other classes are run by the army or navy, but we are the only ones run by civilians in Goa. So I don't think we are the favorites in the overall yachting scenario in India. We've always got second hand treatment.Whether we have to be sent for different events... that's not happening. Because there are no army or navy guys representing those events the Goans have always been winning for so long. PdM: Is that so? Check the records. In the last nationals, the services had the latest Olympic equipment... they had everything. I was using a board, which is like 12 years old. It's a decent board, not an Olympic board, but the same size. And we won all round. I won 10 of twelve races.They had the better equipment, still the Goa team beat them. I won a straight easy win, clear ahead, with the services people tied behind with the rest of the Goan team. By the end of the last races though, the Goan team took second and third place as well. Windsurfing is just one of the segments in yachting, so we almost have no say in the larger yachting association of India. If you look at the allocation of funds in all the different classes of yachting, we get by proportion, very little funds. And there's not much you can do with it. In 2004, I went to the Asian Regatta in Mumbai and got a bronze. In the Doha Asian Games, I got a bad result, I hadn't had much time to practice, had just come down from a UN mission abroad and could practice for just a month. Then I had the time to practice, but there were no funds. In the 2006 World Championship in Thailand, I got a very good result. I finished ninth in the world. But no body had any funds, so I ended up participating in the Regatta at our own expense. I've yet to get reimbursed by anyone and am being led to a merry dance . Even the Sports Association of Goa, has been promising some funds, but after getting all the necessary paperwork together, there's no sign of any backing, though they have the allocation and they can do it. PdM: Could India have made a pitch at the Olympics in windsurfing? Off course, the potential is there for sure. But someone has to say, okay there are these people here, I've won 12 or 13 national championships. If someone were to say okay we've gonna back this guy for the Olympics, and start an Olympics campaign. Any other similar person in Britain, when the government decides to back them, your given a coach to back you up, a new set of Olympic class equipment, and a chance to do all the A class Olympic qualifying regattas, the whole l
[Goanet] Ref: Lawyer's bid to clean Augean stable
Lawyer's bid to clean Augean stable Devika Sequeira in Panaji [EMAIL PROTECTED] Deccan Herald, August 24, 2008 Sunday Features Reference to the above article: What a shame A cocktail of the Health & Education Ministry with a dash of Law, whow !! "Explosive". Reading the above article has indeed shaken my foundation of democracy, two ministers and a judge involved in a land scam, forcing the poor illiterate people to part with their rightful property and forging the thumb impression of the dead, that takes the cake any given day. Even the dead are not left alone in our greed to lay our hands on what ever we can, is humanity doing to dogs ? Hats off to Devika Sequeira for this daring article and lawyer Sudha Pai Kir for standing up for justice we certainly need a lot of people like you both, my advice to Mr Sinha, Mr. Gupta and all you other journalist who lick the back side of their masters (the mining Barons and the Land Sharks) take inspiration and learn about constructive journalism from these people Freddy Agnelo Fernandes The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
[Goanet] Serula gaoncars :: From Dr. Meenacshi Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-- Forwarded message -- From: Dr. Meenacshi Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2008/8/25 People of Serula … Paitona. Salvador Do Mundo Last few years the free for all land scams have necessitated that the people of the villages join hands to maintain the common properties belonging to the village as well as private parties. In the process of contacting the village gaonkars it was noted that the all the heirs of the original gaonkars could not be located, this is an attempt to contact any and all heirs, claimants ,attorneys and interested parties to contact the following: Dr. Meenacshi Martins d/o Dr. Jose Francisco Martins, grand daughter of Pedro Paulo Martins and great grand daughter of Antonio Paulo Martins 1017 "Shriwada Paithan" Nxt to Chodankar Garage Off Defence Colony Alto Porvorim Goa. At +91-9225 901098 +91-832 6512706 [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are planning to have a meeting of the Goankars of Serula AS SOON as I am able to contact as many as possible people. The following names are mentioned in the old papers wef 1908 and 1918 1. J.S. Pereira 2. Margarita Athaide 3. Pascual Xavier Mascarenhas 4. Anna Rozaria Noronha 5. Santana Saldhana 6. Joan Vincente Saldanha 7. Nacimento Noronha 8. Luise Caitan Ataide 9. Fransico Athaide 10. …….miano Paes ( name not clear) ( from 1908 matriz docments ) 11. Casmiro alais Cloddo 12. Paulo Antonio Pinto 13. Michela de Saldanha." 14. Maria Satana Athaide 15. Isabella Rodrigues 16. Peregrine Dias 17. Thome Rodrigues 18. Jose Caitan Alfonso 19. Carolina Paes 20. Caridade Saldanha 21. Antonio Paul Martins Any body having any old papers do email me a scanned version for the purpose of records.. as the Communidade claims to have none for the purpose of correlating .
[Goanet] DABOLIM AIRPORT SUFFERS SETBACK
It may be better to debate and go in with eyes wide open than get collectively screwed in a blissful state of ignorance. Sure it is about money. What's wrong with that? It is also about making an intellectual effort when there is an opportunity and trying to ensure transparency and accountability on the part of those "few" whoever they may be. Dont shed crocodile tears about Goa if the latter cant be attempted or achieved, ok?
[Goanet] DABOLIM AIRPORT SUFFERS SETBACK
To achieve "the goal" Dabolim needs to continue to function for at least 20 years in tandem with Mopa. It should not close either intentionally or by default. The latter wll depend on Mopa's design and the availability of ground access to it. The bigger and the better, respectively, the worse the chances of survival. The Navy is not going to oblige the way it is naively expected by George. A beginning will have to be made by the citizenry to call for a U.S. style Base Realignment And Closure (BRAC) exercise, at least as far as air bases are concerned, so that civil enclaves like Dabolim, Pune Lohegaon, Vishakhapatnam, Agra etc dont get shut by (other) vested interests as it happened at HAL, Begumpet, and Cochin.
[Goanet] All India Christian Council
All India Christian Council A-8, Mahavir Enclave, New Delhi 110045, Telefax: 011 28042194, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.indianchristians.in For Immediate Release Christians condemn violence, killing of VHP leader; Hope peace will be maintained in Orissa New Delhi, August 24, 2008 (All India Christian Council) The All India Christian Council is deeply concerned at the attack on an ashram near Tumudibandh in Kandhamal District of Orissa last night in which the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) leader Lakshmanananda Saraswati and four of his associates were killed. This is the latest in a series of attacks over recent months by political extremists, often called Naxalites or Maoist guerillas, which have left dozens of policemen and others dead in several districts of Orissa. Dr. Sam Paul, aicc National Secretary of Public Affairs, said, "The Christian community in India abhors violence, condemns all acts of terrorism, and opposes groups of people taking the law into their own hands. We have had major differences with Mr. Saraswati, the deceased VHP leader. It was the hate campaigns of the Sangh Parivar which led to untold misery for Christians -- including the unprecedented violence last Christmas in Orissa. But we wish peace to everyone and urge everyone to follow the rule of law." According to media reports, the attack killed four people in addition to Saraswati. The attack involved shooting and hand grenade explosions. Saraswati was reportedly warned by the Maoists a few days prior to the incident to leave the area. (See CNN-IBN, "Naxals attack ashram, kill 5 key VHP leaders in Orissa", Aug. 24, 2008, http://www.ibnlive.com/news/naxals-attack-ashram-kill-5-key-vhp-leaders-in-orissa/71990-3-1.html) Dr. John Dayal, aicc Secretary General, said, "We are concerned at reports of communal violence in the last few hours against innocent Christians in nearby districts. We've heard that at least one prayer hall in Sudergarh was burnt, the van of some Catholic nuns was destroyed, and the sisters were injured. We urgently appeal to the Chief Minister, the Governor of Orissa, and the Minister of Home Affairs Mr. Shivraj Patil to take whatever steps are required to maintain peace and harmony in all areas of Orissa, to prevent further attacks on Christians, and to arrest those responsible for the deaths of Saraswati and his associates." Dr. P.R. Parichha, aicc Orissa state president, said, "The situation in the district was slowly returning to normal. People were engaged in rebuilding houses and settling down after a horrifying experience over Christmas 2007. Now we are afraid that the death of Saraswati will further destabilise the situation in the communally-sensitive Kandhamal district. The aicc will continue to work for peace in Orissa, one of the most undeveloped states in the country." The All India Christian Council (www.aiccindia.org), birthed in 1998, exists to protect and serve the Christian community, minorities, and the oppressed castes. The aicc is a coalition of thousands of Indian denominations, organizations, and lay leaders. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London.
[Goanet] Portuguese India, the Politics of Print and a Questionable Modernity
That's the title of a nice review by Dr Teotonio R de Souza in the
latest (August 16, 2008) issue of the Economic and Political Weekly.
[http://www.epw.in] But it might not be online just yet. It's on
Rochelle Pinto's OUP 2007 (pp 209 Rs 645) book *Between Empires: Print
and Politics in Goa*.
Apart from being critical ("Please Rochelle, and all young scholars,
by all means acknowledge all the fountain-heads of Western scholarship
and register them reverentially in the footnotes, observing thereby
the rules of ethics and metholodogical requirements. But it is time
creative scholars freed themselves from borrowed models and academic
verbosity, even if that means risking being excluded from the 'peer
club' in the ever powerful world of neoliberal academia.") Teo also
has his lavish praise:
"The author is a promising scholar of her generation in Goa, writing
both in the mainstream press and academic journals. No criticism in
this review, however harsh it may sound, takes away any merit from
this young scholar who has shown extraordinary ability to absorb so
much in so many languages in such a short span of time."
Rgds, FN
--
FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org
My mobile number is again 9822 122436
Other numbers: res +91-832-2409490 or try +91-9970157402
[Goanet] Subject: PWD IS TO BE BLAMED
In support of : Message: 3 Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:04:16 +0530 From: "Aires Rodrigues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] PWD IS TO BE BLAMED My dear Goa netters, like the three monkeys, see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil, our politicians can see nothing evil in all the evil that is prevailing in Goa, or hear no evil when it's being trumpeted by the Aam Aadmi all over Goa and they just seem to go dumb, when it comes to speaking of the evil all around us, in contrast just before the elections they seem to see even the smallest of evils around Aam Aadmi and try to lend their ear to every Aam Aadmi and ofcourse speak at the top of their voices making promises to free Aam Aadmi of all the evils. Just before elections you will find, if not all, at least most of the roads being repaired and tarred and the street lights being fixed and hear all those empty promises all over again but once the elections are over our politicians seem to go into "Kumbkaran" mode, the only difference being Kumbkaran slept of 6-months but our politicians sleep over, for nearly 4-years and they only seem to get up when the Aam Aadmi is up in arms and ringing the alarm bells. God ! what a transformation of personalities and performances before and after elections It's really sad to hear about the demise of a minor like Supriya Naik at Ribandar on 22nd August due to the negligence of the PWD and they should definitely be held responsible for this tragedy which could have been avoided. Aam Aadmi should wake our "Kumbkaran" PWD Minister who for a good part of two years was seen and heard screaming at the top of his voice a "NO" to Mopa and now gone to sleep and in his sleep just whispers "MOU" for Dabolim or is he too busy dreaming of the 4-lane National Highway where he knows he can strike "gold". How is the PWD going to maintain a 4-lane highway when they cannot maintain the "1-lane" death traps that we have all over Goa at the moment. Untill and unless the erring officials are taken to task and made to pay heavy fines and prison terms like in other countries, we will not have safety on the Goan roads and more and more Aam Aadmi will parish to utter negligence of the PWD officials. Get your act together PWD and save innocent lives that are so very precious to the Aam Aadmi. To Goa with love Freddy Agnelo Fernandes D G Jones International Ltd. Dubai Mall - Project P.O. Box 62256 Dubai United Arab Emirates Tel: 00971 44073599 Mob : 00971 50 541 7001 The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
[Goanet] Query: Language and shame ... Avita Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-- Forwarded message -- From: Avita Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Language forms a part of once identity when it was time for us to decide a topic for our dissertation for MA sociology of Goa University.I began thinking why people in goa hesitate to speak konkani.we say konkani is our mother tongue and it should be preserved as it is loosing its significance.I wonder why? Some say the reason for the degradation in the use of konkani language is domination of english in spheres of education,jobs, social status etc. But more than getting status i found that shame is the main cause of this hesitation. i want your help to know more about this problem. please do send me your comments to the following question. Have your ever experienced any incident where in you or any one else felt ashamed of speaking Konkani? Please describe the incident in as much details as you can. please send your responses to my email id. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanking you Avita Gonsalves
[Goanet] Ref: DABOLIM AIRPORT SUFFERS SETBACK
DABOLIM AIRPORT SUFFERS SETBACK To be fooled once is understandable, twice is also okay but over and over again is totally idiotic. By nature we Goans are peaceful and accommodating and usually accept or believe what we are told, but the times have changed and the present scenario and situations have made us all (people of Goa) very very suspicious and now the people of Goa have started questioning each and every move of the Authorities and rightly so, you cannot keep on fooling people all the time. Mopa airport as Philip has rightly stated and hit the nail right on the forehead "Mopa was clearly agreed to by ICAO for reasons other than economics", the problem is, are we going to let them get away with it ? The main reasons given are economic benefits for Goa and that Dabolim will not be able handle the air traffic in the years to come with the promises that both will run simultaneously, I am sure a lot of people still believe in this "bull shit", but Goans do not get fooled all the time. 1) Can anyone guarantee (fully), not just 5 or 10 years but in the long run, that Dabolim will continue to cater to the needs of South and Central Goa, once Mopa is operational ? There may be a remote possibility that for "some time" they will manage but the bottom line will be to manage and operate both airports "efficiently" now that's the crunch word "efficiently", we are into the fifth decade of liberation has anything been run "efficiently" in these five decades and we have to believe it's going to happen now As for me, you may call me a pessimist and I don't care either, once Mopa is operational Dabolim will be history, as far as civilian aviation is concerned. Take my word on it. 2) Let's talk about the Navy, one good question, what is it, that the Navy is doing, in Goa that cannot be done from the Seabird at Karwar ? Any guesses ? Do we really need the Navy at Dabolim ? Why is it that, the Goa Government cannot get the Navy out of Goa ? Why do we have to spend so much of our tax payers money on a new generation airport when we can expand and develop and modernize the present Dabolim airport once the Navy is moved out ? 3) What extra economics benefits will Goa get through Mopa, that we cannot get through Dabolim, if Dabolim airport is developed? Any takers ? Like the saying goes "do not take from the mouth of your children and offer it to outsiders when the lives of your very own are at stake" and that's precisely what's going to happen, the Mopa airport will benefit Maharashtra more than Goa, I am sure Maharashtra must be just waiting for the Mopa project to start and see how fast the other side of the border will develop and reap the harvest from what Goa will sow and at Goa's expense and South and central Goa will slowly dry up. Is that, what our Politicians want ? Where is our PWD Minister ? Has any one seen him of late ? A year back, I had heard him say that he would not allow the Mopa project to go a head come what may and now singing a totally different tune, just whimpering, MoU for Dabolim, most certainly he has been shown the bone but not given yet and hence the whimpering of MoU for Dabolim or else we wouldn't even hear that !!! Goans beware, do not get fooled ALL THE TIME !!! To Goa with love Freddy Agnelo Fernandes The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
[Goanet] Condolences
* Condolences The Managing Committee and members of Goan Welfare Society- Kuwait extend our heartfelt sympathy to Socorro De Melo and his family on the passing away of his mother VIRGINIA DE MELO May the Lord Almighty give courage and comfort to the bereaved family to bear this irreparable loss May her soul rest in peace in comfort with the Lord. *
[Goanet] Daily aspirin in middle-age
"R . Goes" Said: R. Goes saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you should see it. --- Reply, Please do not overdose your body with aspirin. Full research has not need been done yet, signs of benefit has been established, caution is required. Aspirin thins the blood therefore it may not benefit everybody, secondly it effects your stomach, any one with thin stomach lining? - catastrophic.. ED. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Lourdes Miracles
"J. Colaco said: Dear all,As a practising Roman Catholic and a believer in the occurence of un-explained cures /recovery from what was previously believed to be incurable ilnesses (i.e. miracles), - Reply: So, you have not heard of unexplained miracles happening to people of other religion, including atheists? So, if that happens to a Hindu, do they call it miracle via Christian God? (considering only Catholics believe in miracles created by God and no other source). I believe in Hinduism (not as a religion but as s system) it existed long before Jesus Christ, Jesus even advised his disciples NOT to go to India, saying they have their own belief, (refer to King James version of the bible - new testament). According to Hinduism there is a power that helps us all the time (other than the planetary Gods the Vedas talks about) this powerful help is unique to each individual, this source is called 'Ishta Devta', Hindus have not publicised this source of power that helps us, because Hinduisms is a religion that is transferred from word of mouth, (very few people read Sanskrit to get the exact picture - I know it through translated books). With this power behind us we do not need miracles, if one believes in this source and asks for help from their personal Ishta Devta, catastrophes are avoided - thus getting rid of our need for miracles. This Ishta Devta does not have the power to give you an extra limb, or give you all the gold in the world, but to help and to make our life bearable - IF ONLY WE WOULD REALISE. ED. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] World Konkani Day 2008
GRAF Celebrates 'World Konkani Day 2008' in Spectacular Style By Ancy Paladka The Goan Review Art Foundation (GRAF) celebrated 'World Konkani Day 2008' in the metro at the Goan Institute Hall, Thakurdwar, Dabul, on Saturday, August 23. GRAF is the cultural body of the Konkani-English bi-monthly 'The Goan Review', whose editor and publisher is the renowned Goan Konkani writer Fausto V Da Costa. This celebration commemorated the inclusion of Konkani in the eighth schedule of the Indian Constitution on 20th August, 1992. This day is popularly known as 'Konkani Maneotaye Dis,' along the Konkan belt. The programme started with 'Sobit Amchem Goem', a dance-song conducted by Agnes Fernandes. Renowned Goan classical musician Milind Raikar was the chief guest while Konkani litterateur J B Moraes was the guest of honour. Konkani journalist Navin Kulshekar and tiatrist Nevis Oliveira were honoured on the occasion for their contribution to Konkani literature and tiatr. Renato Pereira Patron member of GRAF and Alex Silveira, President, Goan Institute were also present on the dais. GRAF's president Fausto V Da Costa gave an emotional call to all Konkani people to respect their mother tongue and to use it while talking, reading, and writing. 'Konkani has achieved great heights these days and it has brought in top honours; but it simply doesn't matter to Konkani people who are not proud of their language. They query about the benefits they stand to gain from Konkani. Only people who benefit financially from Konkani and people who can make an issue out of it to further their political career use and misuse Konkani," stated Fausto. He further added that the Konkani people in Mumbai, decades ago, were responsible for promoting Konkani movements, tiatr, and Konkani periodicals. He credited these Mumbaikars for Goa remaining a separate state with Konkani as its language, since they contributed abundantly to Goa's opinion poll. Fausto lamented the fact that today it becomes difficult to find a pure Goans in Goa. He cautioned that forgetting one's language was equal to losing one's identity. J B Moraes beautifully explained 15 milestones of Konkani as follows: 1. 'Zagor' and 'Tiatr', 2. 'Kudd' of Mumbai, 3. Konkani periodicals, 4. Work of Shennoy Goem Bab, 5. Konkani Parishad, 6. Konkani Bhasha Mandal of Mumbai established in 1942, 7. Konkani radio progarmmes 8. First Konkani novel 'Anjel', 9. Opinion poll in Goa, 10. Sahitya Akademi's recognition for Konkani as an independent language, 11. Konkani becoming the state language of Goa, 12. Konkani entering the eigth schedule of our constitution, 13. First Vishwa Konkani Sammelan, 14. Kalangan of 'Mandd Sobhan', and Vishwa Konkani Bhavan, 15. Konkani singing entering the book of Guinness records. Between these milestones there are thousands of furlongs which are not listed here, he said. Renato Pereira welcomed the gathering and proposed the vote of thanks. Octaviano Fernandes, Secretary, GRAF, introduced the honourable guests, while GRAF's chairman Gable D'Souza compered the programme. Milind Raikar, Yadnis Raikar, Beni Alfy D'Souza, and John Cardozo, gave violin and guitar presentations. Neves Oliveira rendered a melodious song giving a clarion call to Goans to safeguard their land and property, while 'mando-dulpods' highlighting the rich Goan traditional culture, presented by GRAF members under Renato Pereira was one of the highlights of the evening.
[Goanet] DABOLIM AIRPORT SUFFERS SETBACK
Dears, There is a veritable "Opinion Poll" on retaining Goa's Dabolim identity or e-merging at Mopa. Shout, scream or pull your hair out, the MOPA airport will be known as GOA airport by the year 2020, perhaps earlier. Its corporate name will be Goa International Airport Ltd. [GIAL] like GMRs Hyderabad GHIAL, Bangalore's BIAL or Kochi/Cochin's CIAL. As in the case of BIAL [HAL], Cochin [IN], Hyderabad [IAF], the Dabolim airport will become fully a naval base, INS Hansa, the flying ducks. Churchill Alemao has done it to Konkani in the Roman script: Electoral promises to the people, Konkani in Devanagri education to their children and Sharada Mandir education for his own children. so what is different about MOPA after elections. Valanka may sponsor your journey from Benaulim to Mopa so you can go to Valankani and pray for her electoral ticket for the next election n 2012 and promise you an airport outside your house if you vote for her. Check out if she has studied Konkani in a DSE school or GPS like your children who are her age. Ditto for all other politicians and wannabe politicians or any party, religion, caste or constituency. If they... or their children have studied in ICSE/CBSE schools, they should only contest for Parliament elections. Delhi Boards for Delhi polls. On 31 August, 2008 we will mark the 16th anniversary of the notification to include Konkani in the Eighth Schedule of the Constitution of India. On 04 February, 2008 we have already marked the 21st birthday of the Official Language Act, 1987. The first one is like Dabolim ...non-controversial. The second is like Mopa v/s Dabolim; everyone can debate BUT only a few will decide ...based on financial feasibility. It is all about money, honey. Mog asundi. Miguel Message: 3 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:07:15 +0530 From: "Philip Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] DABOLIM AIRPORT SUFFERS SETBACK Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sure, there is no guarantee that two airports in Goa can remain operational simultaneously. And sure, Mopa was clearly agreed to by ICAO for reasons other than economics. Marshall Mendoza has offered one set of such reasons. What about the obvious one of Dabolim being a military base just as Hyderabad's Begumpet and Bangalore's HAL were until HIA and BIA started this year? Not to mention Cochin's naval air station where a civil enclave operated until CIAL came up in the 1990s. -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:57:06 +0530 From: "Philip Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Mopa must avoid this fate Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Samir Kelekar] Your comment above highlights the importance of viewing airport projects in an integrated way -- the airport proper as well as access by air and ground. In the case of BIA, once the decision was taken to close HAL when BIA opened, the latter could go full steam ahead without any concern for the ground access problem. In the case of Mopa, ground access can take its own time (as in Bangalore) if both airports can stay open. But this means Mopa has to start small and grow (unlike BIA which could go for a big bang or rather expansion on the trot which it is fumbling over). This is the kind of tricky situation Goa has to handle. And people have to think about it if politicians are not to gum things up with their vested interests and adopt a bull in a china shop approach. -- Message: 5 Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:07:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Marlon Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Mopa must avoid this fate Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Philip, I do not accept your statement of Dabolim AND Mopa. First of all, making an economic decision to placate two parties while ignoring what may be best for the state is faulty thinking imo. In that case, hey, why stop at just two airports? The bottom line should be this: Can Dabolim be allowed to break free from the constraints laid down by the Navy? If yes, I dont see the need for an airport that is not networked with the heart of Goa. If not, Dabolim should be shut down. Marlon --- Philip Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My own theory is that Bangalore airport users did > not or could not take sufficient interest in the planning and design of > the airport. In the end the city is only getting what it deserves due to > neglect. Can Goa avoid this fate at Mopa? The risk is there as long as we keep > talking about Mopa vs Dabolim. When we start saying Dabolim AND Mopa there > may be some hope. Let's wait and see. -- Message: 6 Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:10:38 -0700 (PDT) From: George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] DABOLIM AIRPORT SUFFERS SETBACK To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The goal should be to restore Dabolim as a full-time civilian airport which will more than serve the avi
Re: [Goanet] Fw: Lourdes Miracles
Dear Fr. Ivo, What the hell (no pun intended :) is transubstantiation? Transubstantiation is a very scientific sounding word - perhaps a play on the scientific concept of the transmutation of elements. Why are you attempting to package your belief in magic/miracles/hexes/spells with scientific terminology, so as to give it an aura of credibility? Jesus allegedly turned water into wine. I can turn wine into ?? Transubstantiate, or should I say, translate this! Marlon --- "Fr. Ivo C da Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jesus of his real presence in the Eucharist > through transubstantiation. I > > hope that the readers will see that there are > "Eucharistic miracles" in > > our times. > > Regards. > > Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] GOA: Lawyer's bid to clean Augean stable
Lawyer's bid to clean Augean stable Devika Sequeira in Panaji [EMAIL PROTECTED] Deccan Herald, August 24, 2008 Sunday Features Pai Kir's complaint against the judge and the High Court's enquiry has also brought to light the shocking complicity of the judge, a group of lawyers and two ministers in the Goa Government in transacting an illegal land deal. Exasperated by the level of corruption in the rural court where she practised, lawyer Sudha Pai Kir moved her practice from Canacona, South Goa to the High Court in Panaji. Almost two years on, the gritty 33-year-old has much to celebrate. Her persistence to see justice done has brought on the dismissal of a judge. In June this year, Chief Justice Swatantra Kumar of the Bombay High Court sacked Judge Shekhar V Parab, who was posted at Canacona, for "gross impropriety." Pai Kir's complaint against the judge for harassment which compelled her to withdraw her practice in Canacona and the High Court's enquiry has also brought to light the shocking complicity of the judge, a group of lawyers and two ministers of the Goa Government in transacting an illegal land deal. Ministers Vishwajeet Rane and Babush Monserrate were present with Judge Parab in a five star hotel where some of the illiterate owners were "forced" to hand over their property in Loliem, Canacona to a Delhi hotel group, the enquiry revealed. The High Court's enquiry against Parab said: "During the course of discreet enquiry conducted by V G Bisht, Registrar, High Court, Appellate Side, Bombay, on the instructions of the Chief Justice, it transpired that the son of an ex-chief minister of Goa was interested in the property involved in RCS No 36/2002 and Parab had taken keen interest in the settlement of the said suit for extraneous considerations. It also transpired during the course of the discreet enquiry, that Parab was present in the Hotel Intercontinental also known as Diksha Hotel with Vishwajeet Rane, son of Pratapsingh Rane, ex-chief minister of Goa, the sub-registrar and his clerk and others at the time of execution of the sale deed of the land forming the subject matter of RCS No 36/2002." One of the co-owners of the property Vishnu Chandru Gaonkar told the enquiry officer that he was "forcibly made to put his signature on the sale deed" executed in the five star hotel in the presence of the dismissed judge, Rane, Monserrate, former MLA Isidore Fernandes and lawyers Vijay Gaykar and Narayan M Dessai. "Thereafter, crores of rupees were distributed by the non-Goan party, ie the purchaser to all others who were present in the said hotel." Three other co-owners of the property told the enquiry that they were also forced to sign the sale deed in the presence of Judge Parab. A subsequent criminal enquiry has been ordered by the courts here in the same land deal against lawyer Narayan Dessai and eight of his clients for forging the thumb impression of one of the co-owners, who had expired. Like most pristine seaside taluks in Goa, Canacona has become the focus of greedy land sharks and in danger of institutionalising a network of corruption, warns Pai Kir. "This case is only a start in cleaning up the system. Immediate measures are needed to set things right in Canacona," she says.
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1066
Dear Goanetters, We Indians are all aware of how social issues and religious issues are always well-connected in India. Goanet has always given everyone, irrespective of caste/religion/gender etc. to express their views. If Fr. Ivo wants to defend his faith - good. If anyone else wishes to inform us about documented miracles taking places in other religious places of worship, we would all like to know. Regards. === >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 09:56:52 -0700 (PDT) > From: ralph rau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [Goanet] Lourdes Miracles - Faith or God in action >To: goanet@lists.goanet.org >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Last time I heard Goanet was a forum for discussing social issues of concern >to Goans and not debating matters of faith. > >Its rightly said - to those who believe (the man of the cloth, Fr. Ivo) no >proof is necessary. To those who cannot, will not, or do not (the doubting >Thomases - all of them) no proof is sufficient. > >Fr. Ivo should stop trying to defend his faith. It merely attracts the ire of >the detractors. > >Footnote: Faith can also be seen working its miracles in Tirupati and elsewhere
[Goanet] WEEK 3: FOLLOW UP OF THE THE SEXUAL HARASSMENT CASE AT THE HERALD, GOA LEADING ENGLISH DAILY
Hi guys... Here's a development in the Herald sexual harassment case guys... Sources close to the Goa State Women's Commission claim that the victim has now been sent a Rs 1 crore defamation notice by Manjunath, through his lawyer. Guys at the Herald tell us that the management is leaning in Manjunath's favour too... This isn't a fair thing happening guys. The Herald management which operates the premises in which both the victim and the accused were working has to ensure that a fair environment exists for a enquiry. What about the Vishakha committee now? When is Herald Publications Pvt Ltd going to constitute the committee as laid down by the Supreme Court? (As a reader Augusto Pinto raises a point in his comment, how many newspaper have a committee to probe incidents of sexual harassment at workplace? Shouldn't the Editor's Guild deliberate this? Shouldn't GUJ discuss this?) Guys, the numbers we have listed below are the guys who either need to be told again and again that they must ensure a fair trial. We are leaving these numbers again guys... Here's what you can do... Pls call them... Keep calling them till they either tire of you or constitute the committee and ensure a fair enquiry. We are also leaving behind numbers of those people who can make some sort of a difference in this case. You guys could call them too to buck them up. It wont cost you much fellas, just a buck if you are in Goa. A bit more if you are abroad. But we are sure that calls like these would ensure that the Herald management is at least aware that people are watching their moves in this case. They need reminding guys... Raul Fernandes 9822100188 (Herald MD and owner) Oswald Fernandes 9823013308 (MD Raul's brother) Manjunath 9822130034 (Herald GM) Nissar 9422437029 (Editor HCN, that's where the victim was employed) Michael 9822122304 (MD Raul's PA) Sunita 9881099260 (President Goa Union of Journalists) Ashwin Tombat 0832-2433373 (direct line to Herald editor) Herald board numbers 0091-832-2224202,2224460,2228083 for more log on to these links, which take you straight to the story... http://penpricks.blogspot.com/2008/08/no-sex-please-we-are-herald.html http://penpricks.blogspot.com/2008/08/goan-local-newspapers-went-to-town.html http://penpricks.blogspot.com/2008/08/herald-general-manager-manjunath.html
[Goanet] FW: Mopa must avoid this fate
1. This is the position of the Goa Government, ok? I am just following through on the logic, Marlon. 2. See my response to #1. The purpose is to serve Goa's interests, and not just to achieve any 'compromise' between 'Dabolim' and 'Mopa' vested inteersts. 3. ICAO itself admitted that two airports were NOT a purely economic decision. The main political problem is not of any land scam but Naval control of Dabolim and associated constraints to civilian traffic there. Plus the commercial interest of any big bang airport builder at Mopa. 4. In the west it is sometimes called a commuter airport. In the aviation industry sometimes there are international regional airports in small countries. I would favour the former (with a vision and the provision to grow over time into something bigger), although at Mopa there may be scope for international exports of perishable products. 5. The answer to the first proposition is 'No'. The answer to the second one is also 'No'. So now what do you suggest? When you grow older you will realise there are no easy, cut and dried solutions in life. Cheers. _ Searching for the best deals on travel? Visit MSN Travel. http://msn.coxandkings.co.in/cnk/cnk.do
[Goanet] FW: DABOLIM AIRPORT SUFFERS SETBACK
http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=8880&cid=2 If we all rally together, Dabolim Airport will emerge the winner.> This was an excellent input, Marina. I was thinking that as usual after making a hue and cry about Dabolim being better than Mopa, goanetters had gone to sleep when the news about the 'setback' to Dabolim was first posted. You ave proved the exception and are right in suggesting that we roll up our sleeves and get going. Its good that the Kamat govt is planning to do some lobbying in this connection. One small suggestion, please talk about Dabolim and Mopa as 'winners' together. As I have repeatedly said, even upgradation of Dabolim may be no guarantee that it will remain open for civilian traffic once Mopa is operational. Kamat & Co will have to remain on their toes continuously from now on for Goa's sake. Something different for the politicians and ministers (and the people) unlike in the past, right? Cheers. _ Searching for the best deals on travel? Visit MSN Travel. http://msn.coxandkings.co.in/cnk/cnk.do
[Goanet] Goa Home Minister clarifies comments on beggars
Goa Home Minister clarifies comments on beggars Panaji, Fri, 22 Aug 2008 NI Wire A day after Nitish Kumar, Chief Minister of Bihar condemning undignified remarks sought apology from Goa's Home Miinster, Ravi Naik, the latter came out saying he never called 'Biharis as beggars.' "I am surprised to read the statement made by Nitish Kumar accusing me saying Biharis as beggars. Nitish Kumar as a senior leader should have ascertained the veracity of my statement," the home minister stated during Zero Hour in the ensuing state legislative assembly session. "I never said Biharis as beggars," Naik clarified today during the session. Reading a statement in the House he further added: "I have the copy of proceedings and I can say that at no point of time did I say Biharis as beggars… I had said that begging in Goa is prohibited as the Anti-begging Act is enforced. I had said that migrants are indulged in begging and they are prosecuted by the police." Earlier this week, Naik had reportedly expressed concern over the augmenting number of beggars in the state and referred beginning of the train from Patna to Vasco would further increase this number. This statement got wide coverage in the local as well as national newspaper and acquired the adverse reaction from Bihari people. On Wednesday Nitish Kumar denounced the alleged anti-Bihari remarks by Naik and demanded an unqualified apology from him for hurting the sensibilities of Biharis. "Coming from a person occupying the responsible post of a Minister in a State, the remark is deplorable and should be condemned by all. The remark should be withdrawn immediately and the Minister should tender an unqualified apology to the people of Bihar," he said. On the issue all significant opponent regional parties-JD(U), RJD, LJP-came on the same platform denouncing the objectionable and irresponsible statement from a person holding constitutional post. http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/12896
[Goanet] Shraan entry to play National B Chess tournament likely to be rejected without assigning any reason.
To the people of Goa. http://goachess.com/GSCA.doc Prospectus of National B is available on above link. Please read Eligibility criteria No 13. Any player who donates Rs. 6,000/- (Ex. National "A" Players Rs. 4,200/-) All special entries should come through the respective State Chess Association / Affiliated Unit of the AICF. However, AICF reserves the right to accept or reject such entries without assigning any reason. If my son Shravan now playing in selection chess tournament at Porvorim. He has won first three games but lost to standric Colaco in fourth. Another 5 rounds are remaining which will be played on Fri 29, Sat 30 & Sun 31 August 2008. By chance fails to qualify in first 6, he will have to go according to Eligibility clause 13. He has to pay Rs.6000/- to play in this National B Chess. If AICF rejects his entry and also did not refund entry fee amount! Whar are the precautions that Shravan should take 1. to accept his entry 2. If entry is rejected and also entry fee amount is not refunded, how to get back money from a defunct body? Last date to submit entries for National B Chess is September 1, 2008. Goa State Selection Tournament ends on August 31 evening. Shrikant Vinayak Barve Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Go to http://in.webmessenger.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Daily Grook #198
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