[Goanet] Info - Portuguese Citizenship

2008-11-16 Thread Sachin

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Hi!!

Need advice/information on following.

How can a spouse who is born in the territory other than Goa,Daman,
Diu apply for portuguese nationality, when her husband's birth and
marriage is transcribed at CRC-Lisboa.

Is she entitled to portuguese nationality by default on the basis that
her husband birth and marriage is already transcribed OR she has to
make a separate application for her portuguese nationality.

Is the proof of connection with portuguese community required/ proof
of sufficient knowledge of the Portuguese language required.

Request of furnish complete procedural guidelines and documentation.

Thanks!!
Sachin Kelkar


[Goanet] Telecast of mining problems to people documentary today at 7.30 pm

2008-11-16 Thread sebastian Rodrigues

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TV Channel IBM Lokmat from Mumbai will telecast documentary on mining and 
problems it has created to people in Goa and parts of Maharastra. Telecast will 
be today evening at 7.30 pm.
 
Warmly,
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[Goanet] Are there any Goans in LA - who are prepared to take over the running of LA GOA ?

2008-11-16 Thread renebarreto

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I share a post from Ralph Figueiredo - 
President GOA LA for the last 7 years ! ? 

RB 

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Category: History_of_ Goa

http://feedjit. com/stats/ worldgoan. blogspot. com/map/? x=100y=39 w=160h=94

From: Ralph Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:10:06 PM
Subject: Christmas Dance 2008

Hello Everyone,

The L.A GOA will not be organizing our annual Christmas Dance this year. We are 
sincerely looking for a new group to take over running the L.A GOA from the 
past committee. We (The past committee) have been organizing events and running 
the association for over 5 years now. Personally, I am willing to stay on as a 
committee member and help out with the transition as needed. 

So, if you and your friends would like to contribute towards keeping your 
association alive and running, please call / email me and I’d love to talk to 
you about what’s involved.

In the interim, the MAA (Mangalore Abroad Association) is organizing a 
Christmas Dance on December 13th in Orange County . You are all invited to 
attend. Deadline to pay is December 2nd, so please rush your checks in if you 
decide to attend. Many of us will be attending. Capacity is limited (First come 
first serve basis) and the event will sell out.

Attached is the flyer and contact information as well. Please direct any event 
questions to the contact on the flyer.

Thank you and we hope to see you there!

Comments / suggestions: Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] com

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RALPH FIGUEIREDO
(310) 534-0358
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Poster : 

The MAA cordially invites you to join us as we celebrate the reason for the 
season at our 

ANNUAL CHRISTMAS
GATHERING

Saturday, December 13, 2008
6:00 p.m. to 11:30 p.m.

Festivities and Feasting will begin with a children’s 
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[Goanet] Admin: Please argue on issues, not against persons!

2008-11-16 Thread Bella Rebello-Hamm


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So well said!  It's one of the reasons I don't write so often on 
Goanette. People start getting very personal. It is true we Indians or 
Goans are emotional people, but other people are sensitive too. We 
should respect their opinions if we want ours to be respected.
Sometimes I get this feeling, we have a peg of Fenni and then decide, 
OK, now I'm going to vent out my unbalanced emmotions. But this is only 
breeding ignorance!. The best results are only achieved when giving 
one's opinion without hurting anybody else's  feelings.

Warm wishes,
Isabella- Germany.



[Goanet] Education Minister Goa University

2008-11-16 Thread Miguel Braganza

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Dear Dr. Barad,

You have misdirected your questions, if the Times of India is to be believed. 
Please read the banner headlined article Will Mr. Kamat please clarify? with 
the self-explanatory sub-title CM's 2007 letter to Centre contradicts present 
stand on Goa Varsity on page 1 of Saturday, 15 November, 2008. Also read Take 
Goa Univ off Bill, CM to tell Centre with the sub-title State has realised 
mistake of agreeing to Upgradation:MP [referring to Shantaram Naik's 
hindsight, which is perfect . as the US Marines saying goes Hindsight is 
20/20 ] in TOI of Sunday 16 November, 2008. The CM's letter of 22 November, 
2007 was a well kept secret till now.

Please send a letter to the CM [and the then Minister of Education to boot!], 
Shri Digamber Kamat  who sent the letter dated 22 November, 2007 [almost 
one year old today]to the Ministry of Human Resources Development conveying the 
consent of the Government of Goa for UPGRADING Goa University Central 
University, reportedly with the concurrence, or prodding, of the Director of 
Higher Education, Mr. Bhaskar G. Nayak  asking whether it had the 
cuncurrence of the cabinet, ruling coalition and/or the Goa Legislative 
Assembly as the case may be.

There is a window of opportunity to know the truth: Apply for a certified copy 
of the proceedings of the Goa Legislative Assembly between 01 August, 2007 [the 
month in which the GOI Ministry of HRD wrote to Govt. of Goa] and 22 November, 
2007. If I am not mistaken, there was no Assembly session during this period. 
The MLAs were elected in June, 2007 and after the monsoon session took a well 
deserved rest till the winter session, save for the toppling games in July, 
2007, led by Mr. Manohar Parrikar of the GDA [not GBA] fame.

The main door to the truth would be access to the agenda of the Cabinet 
meetings to see if the subjected was ever listed for discussion. Goa 
University's status would not be discussed as Any Other Business or A.O.B. 
in a cabinet meeting. An RTI with the Cabinet Secretary/Chief Secretary should 
do the trick for Rs.10/- and stationary costs not exceeding Rs.100/-, including 
Rs. 12/- for Speed Post to send the RTI application. 

One simple question and a request will do the trick: 
1.Was the proposal for the change of status of Goa University to a Central 
University and/or its implications on the agenda of any cabinet meeting between 
01 August and 22,November, 2007?
2. If YES, please furnish a copy of the relevant Agenda and extract of Agenda 
note pertaining to the issue.

If SECRECY or CONFIDENTIALITY clauses are applied at the Cabinet Secretary 
level, the last resort is to file an RTI application with the Director of 
Higher Education ...still the self same Mr. Bhaskar G. Nayak, former Principal 
of Saraswat College of Commerce Management [now Sridora Caculo College of C  
M, Khorlim-Mapusa] and of Government Colleges in Pernem and Quepem, who could 
not take over the post of Principal in Dhempe College for want of a Ph.D in his 
Curriculum Vitae but now controls the funding of not only 28 'traditional 
courses'[Arts, Science, Commerce and Management] or Non-Professional 
colleges, each of them headed by Ph.D  holding Principal without a single 
exception  which cannot deny access to the note prepared by it for the CM 
in this context.

For any researcher in caste dynamics of Goa, it offers a wonderful opportunity 
to study it in the context of the proposed UPGRADATION of the Goa University 
...including the dynamics of the ephemeral CITIZENS of Goa INITIATIVE created 
by Floraino Lobo at the instance of one Dr. U.G. Barad, Mr. Srinivas Kamat, Dr. 
Jayant Budkuley, Prof. Madhav S. Kamat and others earlier this year. We have 
discussed the caste divide on the dais at the contributory [your contribution 
was Rs.50/- besides free speech for the proponents of the opposition to the 
upgradation, if I remember right] debate in the Institute Menezes Braganza 
hall, Panaji-Goa, earlier this year. 

Why treat Atanasio Babush Monserrate now as you treated Floriano Lobo for the 
debate earlier this year? Floriano had the courage to admit that he had been 
had ... almost as if in revenge for the way Admiral Afonso de Albuquerque had 
taken the pseudo Admiral Timmaji in 1510 A.D. there is a moral in the story:
1. Not all Catholics are dumb or slow witted as they are thought/taught to be; 
and
2. Not all Hindu GSBs are as smart as they think they are!

Dr. 

[Goanet] Vaya Con Dios

2008-11-16 Thread Gabe Menezes

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-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London.


[Goanet] Pale bye-election prediction

2008-11-16 Thread Melvyn Ferrao

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Miguel Braganza wrote on Nov 7:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.culture.region.india.goa/84169
--
Dr. Pramod Pandurang Sawant,BAMS [Kolhapur], is an ayurvedic doctor and is
presently a student of MSW in Pune. He is the BJP man wanting to be the next
MLA of Pale-Kothanbi in the Goa Legislative Assembly.
Born on 24 April, 1973, this 35 year old Ayurvedic doctor received the Nehru
Yuva Kendra's State Youth Award in 1999 [when he was 26 years old] and has
worked at the Ayurvedic College at Shiroda-Ponda [reportedly managed by the
current Congress President, Subhash Shirodkar] as a Medical Officer.

Thereafter, he was an Active BJP worker for the period 1996 to October,
2003  from October, 2008 onwards. If it seems rather clinical, there is a
valid reason: Dr. Pramod P. Sawant served in the Government
establishement as Ayurvedic Physician under PHC Sanquelim and PHC
Bicholim-November 2003 to September, 2008 and could not be officially
active in politics.

His previous leadership/political experience includes:
1. CR [elected] of S.Y. BAMS at Shivaji University and
2.G.S. [unopposed] of T.Y. BAMS
3.President of a Health Care NGO with projects including
i] Manthan ...funded by DEMPO Group
2.AIDS Awareness ...funded by GSACS
3. Rural Information ...funded by Nehru Yuva Kendra
4. Day Care Centres ...funded by Govt. of Goa
5. Village Library ... funded by Govt. of Goa

To confirm and for additional information call 0832-2372366
or mobile 9422635922

[Source: Press Hand out of CV at BJP office]
-
My comment:

From past experience, Goans in general choose someone who is of their kind.
An educated, young, dynamic leader who has proven himself gets rejected in
Goa's politics. People vote for thugs who achieve nothing for the state and
everything for themselves. The absurdity of us Goans is evident from the way
we vote for someone who runs a goondaraj in Taleigaon. We make one who has
ties with criminals our chief minister. That gives them an opportunity to
ruin what remains of Goa, and makes us spend all our efforts, day and night
in protesting against what they do wrong. All because we are loyal to some
party and the country's great leaders of the past belonged to that party.

Pale will be no exception. The educated and sincere candidate will be
rejected and people will go for their regular favourites  one of their
own kind.

Melvyn Ferrao,
Agacaim


[Goanet] To make this Season A Memorable One - GULAB CAROL SINGING COMPETITION in KUWAIT

2008-11-16 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com

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KALA MOGUI KUWAIT 
 

 GULAB WORKING COMMITTEE 

Conveys their Special Advance Greetings for the 

Christmas Season To All Our Supporters 

 Konkani Loving People 

To make this Season A Memorable One 

we are organizing an unique 

GULAB Carol  Singing  Competition 

 

on 19th December 2008 (Friday) at 3:00 p.m. sharp 

at the Carmel School Auditorium, Kheitan, Kuwait. 

  

For details contact Tel: 66502572 / 99391452 / 24726524 
 or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com 
Entries for the competition will close on 
21st November 2008 and a general meeting will be held on 22nd November 2008 
(Saturday) for the participants. 



Goa's Pride - http://www.goa- world.com
http://www.yahoogro ups.com/group/ gulf-goans
http://www.goa- world.com/ goa/gulab/

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http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans

Konkani Amchi Mai Bhas Sogglea Goenkaranchi - hench amchem herans.
For all Goans, our mother-tongue Konkani, is our pride!
http://www.songs-from-goa.at/goa/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5ECJrnqPcI


  


[Goanet] Goans take to local protests to fight ills

2008-11-16 Thread D'Souza, Avelino

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Goans take to local protests to fight ills 
Ketki Angre 
Sunday, November 16, 2008, (Panjim)

Goa means different things to different people. It is the perfect
holiday spot for the reclusive or adventurous, a bohemian rhapsody for
the hippie and is viewed as prime land for the mining lobby. 

But over the years, local protests have gathered momentum there as
residents try to save their state. Those are angry voices that one
wouldn't associate with Goa's 'sussegad' or laid-back image.

A case in point is Cheryl Marina De Souza. Cheryl and her family were
barred entry to the mine near her property and she paid for it by being
thrown in jail for 24 hours. After further threats from the mining
lobby, Cheryl hired a private bodyguard for her daughter Aki's
protection. 

Aki's father is cremated there, there's no compromise on a home, said
Cheryl Marina De Souza, resident, Quepem.

From retired medical officers to the average farmer or housewife,
ordinary Goans are coming together to fight the rape of Goa. They are
fighting against illegal mining, land grab, political sleaze, even if it
means taking risks.

It was in fact a people's protest that actually forced the Goa
government to scrap the controversial regional development plan, that
would have plundered the natural beauty and wealth of Goa. 

The people's movement has also spilled into other campaigns. Recently,
Goans got the government to scrap the SEZ policies, including three of
the seven which were already notified by the Centre.

Fundamentally what they are doing is trying to expose the corruption
and the very fact that they are sought to be silenced or sought to be
assaulted. What it effectively means is that the pressure is working on
these guys, said Dr Oscar Rebello, Goa Bachao Abhiyan.

Last but not the least, Goa is the only state in India that has a
special law for children called the Goa Children's Act. It's a
remarkable step that was made possible only after a decade-long
determined fight by activists against child abuse. 

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080072781ch=1
1/16/2008%2012:22:00%20PM

~(^^)~

Avelino



[Goanet] six reasons why it is difficult to live in Dubai

2008-11-16 Thread Eugene Correia

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[Goanet] Fw: Lucio Miranda's Website

2008-11-16 Thread eric pinto

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Lucio was an exponent of the Portugese fado. Played the guitar and sang.

The link below will take you to his website. The Music link within it will 
take you to a selection  of songs sung by Lucio. 




http://www.luciomiranda.in/






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[Goanet] Road closed near Holy Family Cathedral - Kuwait

2008-11-16 Thread Santos Carmo


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Road closed near Holy Family Cathedral - Kuwait


Note that the only way to go the Holy Family Cathedral in Kuwait City is via 
the Gulf Road only.


The road between the Church and the traffic light (after the Sheraton 
round-about) is closed.  When you are approaching the Church, you can only 
turn right (towards Watiya Souk) at the Sheraton Traffic light!

You cannot drive straight towards the Church.

Therefore, you have to drive via the Gulf Road and park on the opposite side 
of the Church or take a U-turn (new) and park at the Starbucks parking area.

If possible, please try to car-pool to avoid parking confusion and delays.

Please pass on this info to others in Kuwait and follow the traffic 
guidelines/signs/ directions.  You will save a lot of time ! 



[Goanet] Two planes escape collision narrowly at Goa airport

2008-11-16 Thread Philip Thomas


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As many as 356 passengers on board a Moscow-bound Trans-Aero flight had a 
narrow escape when the chartered aircraft brushed against the wings of 
another plane at Goa's Dabolim airport Sunday afternoon, officials said. The 
incident occurred at 2.30 p.m., when the Moscow-bound flight was on the 
runway, readying for the take-off, they said. The flight's right wing 
brushed against the tail wing of another chartered flight from Britain, the 
officials said.

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200811161801.htm





[Goanet] At the Kala Academy -- Kesarbai Samaroh, art, ballet...

2008-11-16 Thread Frederick FN Noronha

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Programmes at the Kala Acdemy

Nov 15 (Sat), 2008
9.30 a.m. to 10.30 p.m.
DMKM KA-PDS Surashree Kesarbai Kerkar S.S. Samaroh
Free
5.30 p.m.

10 a.m. to 7.30 p.m.
Art Gallery
Meghamala A. Chanekar Painting Exhibition
Free
[Continues uptil Nov 18)

Nov 16 (Sun), 2008
9.30 a.m. to 10.30 p.m.
DMKM KA-PDS
Surashree Kesarbai Kerkar S.S. Samaroh Free

Nov 17 (Mon)
10 am to 1 pm
DMKM KA-PDS Ballet Performance
Free Rehearsal
(Also on Nov 18)

10 am to 7.30 pm
Black Box
Chandekar Business Media Pvt. Ltd., Extrusion Summit 2008
Free
(Also on Nov 18)

10 am to 2 pm
Open Air Auditorium
Mushtifund Saunstha
Gathering
Free
Rehearsal

5 pm to 9 pm
Open Air Auditorium
Mushtifund Saunstha
Gathering
Free

Nov 18 (Tues)
5 pm to 9 pm
Open Air Auditorium
Alumini Events Children Day Celebration
Ticketed

Nov 19 (Wed)
6.30 pm to 10.30 pm
DMKM KA-PDS
Ballet Performance
Free

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[Goanet] Exhibition of Photographs

2008-11-16 Thread Goanet AE


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Mahesh Nair's Exhibition of photographs showcases the beauty of nature in 
its breathtaking variety. Particularly the Himalayas and Yellowstone 
Nationalpark scenes are serene and intense at the same time. Photography has 
come gradually in place of the fine arts to pay tribute to the beauty of the 
natural world as a footprint of God's work


Start Date: November 21 2008, 7pm
End Date: December 12 2008

Location:
Art Chamber Galeria de Belas Artes
Calangute, Goa

Contact Information:
Rudolf Ludwig Kammermeier
+91-9823217435
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.goa-art.com/gallery/Mahesnair/Mnair.htm


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[Goanet] German Cultural Days @ Goa, 12-14 December

2008-11-16 Thread Constantino Xavier

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1st German Cultural Days 
Goa on 12, 13 and 14 December 2008

The Indo-German Friendship Society (www.igsg.org), Goa is organizing the 1st 
German Cultural Days in Goa. 

The events will be held in Pangim and Margão on 12, 13 and  14 December 2008 
and will include a presentation on Information about oportunities of  Study  
Research in Germany and a German Alumni Meeting. 

A Traditional German home pastry class will also be held as well as music 
events and a roundtable discussion. 

For programme and more information please visit www.igsg.org or contact [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]


(on behalf of my parents, Aurobindo and Margarete Xavier)
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[Goanet] Admin : please argue on issues, not persons

2008-11-16 Thread Samir Kelekar

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Bella writes:
Sometimes I get this feeling, we have a peg of Fenni and then decide, 
OK, now I'm going to vent out my unbalanced emmotions. 

Goanet posters should be asked to solve a captcha (filling up a word in
an image) or some sort of a puzzle,
and only after being able to solve that, the post should go through. People who 
are in an inebriated state of mind would not be able to pass this stage.

regards,
Samir



  


[Goanet] Is Kundapur a remote village in Udupi district, near Mangalore?

2008-11-16 Thread Miguel Braganza

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Dears,

The Sunday Navhind Times of 16 Nov. ,2008, reports thus:
Mr Gokuldas Prabhu, briefing the media said that Kundapur village is
a remote place, but includes secular Konkani community which loves and
respects the language.
The TOI report of the same day reported remote village having a
huge Konkani speaking population ...and also the Bhandarkar College
campus
I know that Kundapur is the home village of Mr. Kundapur Dattaram
Bhat, the Executive Director of Photophone/PHIL Corporation in Goa.
So, it cannot still be a small, remote village with a college.

Is the Konkani community always  secular or is it only in Kundapur
and hence the prefix?

What does secular really mean? Tolerance of all religions in one
area or absence of religion or exclusion of all but one religion in an
area  so that the other religions can be tolerated on the outside
... or choosing representatives of other religions who share one's
views, though not the religion [as done in quite a few Official
language bodies in Goa]?

If the All India Konkani Parishad [allegedly an unregistered
association] is telling us cock and bull stories about a remote
village with a college, the less said about their stand on Konkani
[Ek Bhas, ek lipi, ek sanskruti, ek samaj] and the use of internet for
emailing prose and poems in Devanagri [Fr. Jaime Couto is the only
person who sent me Devanagri fonts and links to rediffmail so that I
may read the couple of basic emails in Devanagri he sent to me,
obviously  with great effort], the better. Nothing has come of their
tall promises made at the AIKP session on 10 February, 2007, a t Kala
Academy, Panaji, when Dr. Ramdas Nagesh Karmali had made just such a
presentation. Possibly the same was done at Cochin in February, 2008.
It would be nice if the AIKP actually manages to find some simple way
of sending emails and SMS in Devanagri ...and uses it without making
the Catholic Church and Goa Government into a donor agency or BPO or
both as done for the Primary schools in what is euphemitically called
as local language aka  Konkani. The other things called local
include seedling/sucking mangoes normally used for pickle and the Goan
spirit that gets one pickled. So do the GPS [Govt. Primary Schools]
in the BPO era. They are used as a last resort ...when one cannot
afford the costs of the superior stuff ...just like local mangoes of
unknown quality.

Incidentally, the AIKP conference and the Carnival are both held in
February each year ...and both are partly sponsored by the Government
of Goa with the money you and I pay as tax. What a coincidence!

Mog asundi

Miguel

Kundapur meet to discuss promotion of Konkani
NT NETWORK
Posted on 2008-11-16

Kundapur meet to discuss promotion of Konkani

PANAJI - The 19th All India Konkani Literary Conference will be held
in Kundapur village of the Udupi district, in Karnataka on February 7
and 8, 2009. The conference will have a number of seminars discussing
promotion and expansion of Konkani language at the global level.
The president of the All India Konkani Parishad, Mr Shantaram Naik,
addressing a press conference on Friday said that the literary
conference is being held for the first time in a remote area.
However, we have made all arrangements for transportation and
accommodation of the participants as well as delegates of the event
from Goa and elsewhere, he added.
A seminar on effective propagation of Konkani literature through
electronic medium would be a highlight of the literary conference, Mr
Naik said and added that another seminar would be about the
possibility of spreading social messages concerning AIDS, social
discrimination, gender discrimination, national integration, literary
temperament, nationalism, etc, through Konkani language.
The local host for the meet will be Jai Konkani, an organisation
working for the development of Konkani in Kundapur, it was informed.
Dr H Shantaram is the chairman of the reception committee constituted
for the literary meet, while Mr Shyam Karanje is its working
president.
The president of the working committee, Mr Gokuldas Prabhu, briefing
the media said that Kundapur village is a remote place, but includes
secular Konkani community which loves and respects the language. He
further observed that the Christian community in Karnataka has
substantially contributed towards Konkani literature.
It was also informed that the Karnataka Governor, Mr Rameshwar Thakur
or the Chief Minister of Karnataka, Mr S Yediurappa 

[Goanet] Goa University or Gone University?

2008-11-16 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad

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Now on we will have to listen to tunes - we are with people. If Goans don't
want Goa University to be converted into Central University we will do every
thing possible to scrap the proposal.

Although we are going to hear this slogan from Congress party as well as
from CM I would only like to pose one question to Mr. CM - What completed
you to send the proposal of up grading Goa University to Central University
without any consultative process in November 22, 2007. Do you think that Goa
University is your property because you are CM of Goa? Goans demand
explanation to this very proposal Mr. CM. 

Goanet Members can read more on this issue by clicking the link provided
here below: 

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Take_Goa_univ_off_Bill_CM_to_tell_
Centre/articleshow/3718581.cms

Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad




[Goanet] The Exact Role and Definition of Overseas Bharti Goans.

2008-11-16 Thread Cip Fernandes

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On Thu, 11/13/08, Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Goans in Goa think they have acquired martyr status for staying on in Goa, 
and the oft repeated question is, what have you NRIs who ran away to foreign 
countries done?

Native Goans have done the following in the 20th  21st century:
1. Liberated Goa from Portuguese rule.

2. Made Goa as a Union Territory of India instead of merging with Maharashtra.

3. Attained a better status for Goa from Union Territory to State of Republic 
of India

4. Included the language of our ancestors “Konkani” into the Constitution of 
India.

5. Help thousands of lazy Goans (who were not willing to work in Goa) to send 
them to Gulf and other countries to work. Now, they do work abroad but few of 
them complain calling very hard work for normal work. BTW, Foreign currency 
remitted by them have benefited India (not directly Goa).  Now, have 
established NRI Commission for them and others. 

6. Now, Goans employing tens of thousands non-Goans (Benard Colaco may call 
them Bhartis) in Goa, particularly in Tourism industry. (Overseas Goans are 
welcome back but only if they can speak Konkani and compete with them (neither 
priority nor reservation quota but only competency).

7. At the moment, the ratio between Goans and non-Goans is controllrd - that is 
about 63:37

8. In Goa, we are lacking menpower at all levels. Unfortunately, we prefer more 
non-Goans then 'Overseas Goans' so we get them and we make plenty of money.  
And, to comfort their stay in Goa, we provide them Shelter, Ration card, School 
with their language as medium, Pan shops, etc.

9. Children born in Goa to non-Goan parents are given entitlement to call 
themselves as Goans with full status including with all Goa State Welfare 
Benefits. 

10. Bishop of Goa has instructed us to treat non-Goans with Loves, dignity, 
care, compassion and to share with them. In some Churches regular Masses are 
said in Hindi on Sundays (may be Calangute Church has given the lead) 

11. Taken care of our Freedom Fighters by giving them sufficient pension.

12. Taken care of our Politician by giving them a good pension.

13. Till now we have managed to retain the name of the land of our ancestors as 
Goa. 

In near future, the percentage of non-Goans will increase soon to over 50% then 
we have to change the name of the land of our ancestors to Bharti Goa or 
similar as per their demand. 

Unfortunately, then all overseas Goans may have to call themselves as Overseas 
Bharti Goans.


Cip
North Goa



  



[Goanet] More Portuguese than the Portuguese

2008-11-16 Thread Venantius Pinto

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 Dear RKN,
In Portuguese, pinto, is a chicken (young). I do not know whether there is
a term for the stage between an older chicken and a cock or hen. Sort of
like being a spinster or batchelor. Cock is, torneira. Hen is, galina, as is
fowl. Rooster is, galo. Maybe there are other ways to say the same in
Brazil, and Brazilian Portuguese.

Here RKN, a bonus for you for asking a good question. This is from the
Dicionario (accent omited) de Rimas (Rhyming Dictionary) on words ending in
into: absinto, Aracinto, cerinto, Corinto, corinto, Filinto, instinto,
Jacinto, jacinto, labarinto, lavarinto, Pinto, pinto, plinto, precinto,
recinto, terebinto (V. os a, e as ref. em inta).

There is a reason why in some words that appear the same the first letter is
capitalized.

venantius


From: Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] More Portuguese than the Portuguese

Is it true that in Brazil, Pinto means small cock?

Cheers,
RKN


[Goanet] Argue on issues rather than personalities

2008-11-16 Thread Mervyn Elsie Maciel

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Well said, Frederick.
Mervyn M.


Re: [Goanet] Fw: Lucio Miranda's Website

2008-11-16 Thread Roland Francis

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Thanks Eric for that beautiful link.

Lucio looks like those genteel Goan noblemen who if transplanted in
1800's Portugal or Spain would have been equally at home.

Would Valmiki Faleiro who would have surely known Lucio please tell us
more than his website reveals. The good and the bad if there is. No
man's memory is complete without that.

God bless you Lucio for enriching Goa and it's culture.

Roland.

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:07 AM, eric pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Lucio was an exponent of the Portugese fado. Played the guitar and sang.
 The link below will take you to his website. The Music link within it will 
 take you to a selection  of songs sung by Lucio.

 http://www.luciomiranda.in/


[Goanet] Portrait of an old Goan lady

2008-11-16 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar

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To Goanet -

I had stopped briefly for a soda at a small store in
the village of Paliem (near Uccasaim, off the Panjim
to Mapusa highway - there are several Goan hamlets
that go by the name 'Paliem') when this lady
walked by.  I didn't have my special portrait lens
on me, but with a wizened story-of-a-hard-life-lived
visage like that I did not want to let go of the 
opportunity.  She readily consented.  Her name
is Chandrika Zantye -

http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/chandrika.jpg


Regards,


r


Re: [Goanet] The Exact Role and Definition of NRI's in Goa

2008-11-16 Thread Roland Francis

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Bosco, there are a few questions that arise from your post.

While my remarks about boorish comments from Samir Kelekar about
Overseas Goans according to you do not take the debate forward, is it
your opinion that the following remarks he made does?

Quote
They should also ask what their fathers were doing when freedom
fighters were fighting for freedom. Licking Portuguse boots, being
Portuguese empregad, or slaves? Their sons are now sitting in
Australia and UK and are teaching Indians freedom. Get lost guys, no
one in Goa is listening to you. You are not needed.
Unquote

Perhaps people in Goa who are not listening to overseas goans, are
listening to those like Kelekar writing from Bangalore.

Bosco, there is no point you can make to me by quoting a paragraph
from Cabral e Sa's article in Goa Today. I fully support what he
basically says - let us stew in our own juice, we are used to it. You
cannot change us. We have elected the Govt and deserve what it dishes
out.

Any overseas Goan going to Goa to change things in my opinion is like
the proverbial fool rushing in where angels fear to tread. It won't
take much time for him to lose his innocence and by the time he is
ready to change them he has already become a part of the scenery. It's
that bad in the hell-hole that Goa has now become. Any going to Goa
would be only for the purpose of meeting one's relatives. It doesn't
even come close to being merely a holiday destination if one compares
to the choices available to us at half the price of going there.

I find your following comment quite intriguing:
Quote
This I believe is the ethos of Goanet - to give a voice to the
voiceless. But the hegemony of a few who insist on monopolizing the
available bandwidth on a daily basis (for the past several months)
drowns out those that need or want to be heard...for eg. Sebastian
Rodrigues, Philip Neri, Valmiki Faleiro, Godfrey Gonsalves, Joao
Fernandes, Samir Umarye and many-many more..
Unquote

What are you saying Bosco? That Goanet should be the exclusive domain
of a selected few and that the janta should not be occupying space?
Very easy to fix Bosco, in your moderator role. Just cut them off.

And who decided that the ethos which means the character, the moral
element, of Goanet is to give a voice to the voiceless? Here is what
Goanet says it is: Goanet is a general forum for people interested in
Goa to meet and talk about Goa.

And even if were a place for the voiceless as you say it should be,
pray tell how Sebastian Rodrigues, Phillip Neri, Valmiki Faleiro et al
are not getting their own voices on Goanet.

As Bosco the poster, this post of yours was rather lacking in rationale.

Roland.

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 RESPONSE: Perhaps it has never ocurred to some of us (NRGs) that there are
 perhaps hundreds, nay thousands of Goans who share Samir's point of view.
 Criticism of Samir as an individual is misplaced at best; he is only a
 single voice of many. While Selma and Gabriel have illustrated their
 counterview appropriately, resorting to responses as above dont take the
 debate forward.


[Goanet] Bootlickers !

2008-11-16 Thread Roland Francis

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Indian minister to attend expat forum's function
MINISTER from the Indian state of Goa, Joaquim Alemao, will attend a
function being organised today as part of the one-day seven-a-side
football tournament for Goan community members at the Doha Stadium.
Alemao will be the chief guest at the function.
Joaquim, who is the younger brother of former Goan chief minister
Churchill Alemao, is currently the president of the Goa Football
Association. He is also the Urban Development Minister of Goa these
days.

Roland.


[Goanet] VHP men attack church and damage it in Mumbai.

2008-11-16 Thread Nelson Rodrigues

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VHP men attack church in Mumbai
16 Nov 2008, 0130 hrs IST, V Narayan , TNN  
 
 
MUMBAI: Around 20 men, allegedly from the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP), barged 
into the prayer hall of a Christian sect at Bhayander at 12.30 pm on  
Saturday and stripped and thrashed the pastor in the mistaken belief that he 
was converting people to Christianity. 
According to the police, eight men have been arrested for the attack on the 
prayer hall which belongs to the Church of God (from the Pentecostal Church). 
Incidentally, the prayer hall is adjacent to the Navghar police station at 
Bhayander, a bustling township just outside the city limits. The attackers, who 
also damaged the prayer hall and confined 20 persons attending the prayer 
meeting. 
Raj Jaiswal (30), an eyewitnesses, told TOI that around 20 people, including 15 
women, were in the prayer when someone knocked at the door. We opened it 
presuming that more people may have come for the prayer, he said. 
A mob of about 20 rushed in, shouting slogans such as, 'Jai Hind, Jai 
Maharashtra', said Jaiswal, a real estate broker who attended the prayer 
meeting. They claimed to be from the VHP and said they had information that 
conversions were happening here. They hurled fithy abuses at us and beat us 
up, said Jaiswal. 
Although a Hindu, he attends the prayer meetings for the past seven years since 
he believes the prayers cured of persistent body ache when doctors failed. 
The mob stripped pastor Philip Fernandes and thrashed him for trying to 
convert people. Jaiswal said that he then phoned a TV channel for help. The 
reporters came in 15 minutes with police officials from the Kanakia police 
chowkie and Navghar police station who resolved the matter, he said.  
 
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[Goanet] Can Kamat clarify?

2008-11-16 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad

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Kamat has sold Goa and Goa University including the assets of Goa University
to the tune of nothing less than 400 Khokas (Crores) 

All Goanet members in this forum are most welcomed to contest or raise
responses or what ever .on this subject only to save GOA. 

Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad 




[Goanet] Not a Rumour - Narvekar and Parrikar

2008-11-16 Thread ralph rau

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Obama has interviewed his opponent Clinton to be Secretary of State.

Doesn't politics always make for strange bedfollows ?

One other question -Who paid the US college fees and expenses for their kids. 
Then again we should not be petty. Selfless public service should have some 
reward.



[Goanet] Confirmed - Manohar Parrikar's son getting married on 19th Dec!

2008-11-16 Thread Sonia Kuncalienker

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Dear Mr. Rahul Mehrotra / B J William J
 
as a friend of utpal, Allow me to clarify a few points;
 
1. Manohar Parrikar's son (Utpal) is working , not studying in the USA.
 
2. he is getting married to Uma Sardessai on the 19th of dec.
 
for someone who uses a fake id to write , who does not give names correctly , 
who constantly writes parrikar's son without finding out the name of the son, 
who wants us to wise up, please note - it is definitely time for us to wise up 
and not pay heed to anonymous postings on the internet.
 
and this marriage is not the sly .it is a grand function that utpal and uma are 
celebrating their marriage. just because u are not invited, does not mean u can 
marry off people in which ever manner u choose! i will post the invite to you! 
pls do come  
 
and lastly, it is an insult to Utpal and Uma when poeple like you write 
whatever they want to propagate a brand of 'activism', which is dirty and 
indecent.
 
wise up, rahul or are u williams or just someone else with no spine to accept 
the truth!
 
over to you!  would love to meet u for the wedding. will personally introduce 
teh couple to you
 
regards
sonia kuncalienker
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Speaking of Politicians and how we all love to bash each other defending our
political parties, be it the Congress or the BJP, would it surprise anyone
to know that I have it on Good Faith that Dayanand Narverkar and Manohar
Parrikar, two sworn enemies, are marrying their children off to each other
on the sly? This is True, it is not a rumour. Their Children are studying in
the United States and will be marrying each other Shortly.(Shwetal Narvekar
and Parrikar's Son)
I guess its only the people who are left standing , wondering what on earth
is going on, when there is a slugfest everytime people defend his/her choice
of political parties. Wise up, people.


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Re: [Goanet] Not a Rumour

2008-11-16 Thread Dr. Abhijit Sadekar

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It is sickening to note that this forum has become a site for rumour
mongering.  Rahul has made a categorical statement that Parrikar's son is
getting married to Narvekar's daughter on the sly further stating that it is
not a rumour.
I would like to know from him if he is invited for the same wedding and the
likely wedding date and venue.
Please don't abuse democracy and feed Goaneters with such bull.

Regards,

Abhijit Sadekar


[Goanet] Advertisement on THE RIGHT MOVE II-CAREER IN SPORTS

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[Goanet] The Exact Role and Definition of NRI's in Goa

2008-11-16 Thread Cecil Pinto

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Roland Francis wrote:
There have always been some strident voices on Goanet trying to choke
off any criticism of Goa by overseas Goans and of their negative
experiences there. I am not talking of the likes of Frederick Noronha
who have in most circumstances always kept a balanced view.


Cecil Pinto:
1) I was wondering when Don Quixote would rush in to the aid of the
foot-stuck-in-mouth Joan of GoaNet. Will Roland please give examples
of his assertions above. And the validity or invalidity of arguments
from either side.
2) We all share your admiration for Frederick Noronhas balanced view.
He has his own motivations. Frederick Noronha is not the spokesman for
Goans in Goa. Neither am I. Are you the spokesman for all NRI Goans?
Do they all concur with your views?

--

RF:
While I myself prefer to hold off any criticism of Goa, since other
than being a Goan, I have little to do with present-day Goa, I do
understand when people who have much more closer connections give vent
to their feelings.


CP:
You have chosen well. Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. Having
said that I personally know many NRI Goans who have their heart and
their mind in the right place. It is the few ill-informed gasbags who
give all NRI Goans a bad name. An easy thumbrule to use to
differentiate is whether somebody has to constantly beat their own
drum (and that of their families') to show what they (and their
families) have achieved and done for Goa.

---

RF:
For a latest example, Samir Kelekar's absolutely boorish comments on
overseas Goans do not reflect well on his PhD. To me the man is as
ignorant an ass as they come, son of Gurunath Kelekar or not.


CP:
It is juvenile language like this by a few NRI Goans that brings
disrepute to many honourable NRI Goans. While I may or may not agree
with Samir's comments I don't see why his doctorate and parentage have
to be dragged into the argument. Are you lacking in these areas?

--

RF:
Personally, I feel that Goanet as Rajiv Desai recently mentioned, has
become far too parochial and less of the pulsating, exciting Goanet it
was not too long ago. That was when we talked less of Goan politicians
and gangsters and more of the traditional Goaness that now mostly
resides with the overseas rather than the local Goan.


CP:
1) One could also argue that the GoaNet of eight years back was far
better than when some foul-mouthed attention seeking NRI Goans jumped
on some 3-4 years back. It is a question of perspective. But change is
inevitable. It is for us to work together to make sure that the change
is for the better and not start controversies and make dramatic
illogical statements just for self-attention.

2) I doubt GoaNet was intended only as a forum to discuss 'traditional Goaness'.

3) Kindly show proof of your assertion that 'traditional Goaness'
..'mostly resides with the overseas rather than the local Goan'. You
seem to be going the Selma way too, with dramatic soundbytes that have
no logical base.

--

RF:
Also a source of never-ending amazement to me is the proclivity of,
for example Cecil to counter any criticism of situations in Goa with
the zealousness of paranoia. You talk about corruption and he talks
about how that is not confined to Goa. He has never been outside of
India and yet he compares Goan corruption by implication to that say
of the UK. Which world is he in?


CP:
1) Other than the current discussion please show me recent examples of
my 'countering criticism of Goa with the zealousness of paranoia'.
Unlike certain vocal people here, I have a real-life life to live and
have to work hard for a living to feed my family. I do not have the
time or energies to react every time a misinformed blinkered NRI Goan
starts whining froma distance about what we in Goa should be doing.
2) I agree I have never been outside of India. How exactly does that
disqualify me from pointing out the lack of rational thought in
certain postings, and the attention seeking agenda of the posters?
3) As to your question of Which world is he in? let me assure you
that my world is here in Goa. Here and now. That is something you will
never understand with your fleeting-if-anything relationship with Goa.
Shooting off a critical e-mail takes a few minutes. Walking the talk
here is another ball game.

As for the rest of your posting let me use a word coined by Selma
yesterday. It's time for a 'bladderdash'!

Cheers!

Cecil



Re: [Goanet] Contents of Goanet digest Vol 3, Issue 1749 (Re: Not a Rumour (Cip Fernandes)

2008-11-16 Thread Rahul Mehrotra

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Reply to Cip Fernandes :
Are you Mr Rahul Mehrotra interested in Shwetal Narvekar? ... and you want
to break their love?

Your response doesn't make any sense Cip Fernandes. Break their love. LOL.
Isn't it time you matured?

My point was entirely something else. You don't call each names in public,
expect thousands of people to back you up and shout for your support and
have your kids married off to each other, that leaves them with no moral
standing.


[Goanet] Not a rumor

2008-11-16 Thread Samir Kelekar

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Cip writes:
Rahul Mehrotra bjwilliamj at gmail.com,

Love has no boundries.

We live in the 21st century.

Children not necessarily have to follow parents Political parties.

Can Manohar Parrikar stops his son getting married to Shwetal Narvekar?

.Can Dayanand Narverkar stops his daughter Shwetal Narvekar getting married to 
Mr Parrikar's son?

Plus they are both Hindus.

Now if one was a Christian and another a Hindu, of course...it might
have been considered a secular conspiracy.

samir

PS: I have been blamed also for posting some responses because some idiot
has a Christian surname. I am amazed how deeply communalism is ingrained in 
some of the posters on this forum.





  


Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1481

2008-11-16 Thread Jesus Mario B. Fernandes

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Thanks Paulo for vouching for my existence!
Just goes to show the level of doubt that has percolated our thinking!
 
Thanks
Mario Jesus Mario B. Fernandes exists and I know him personally and very well. 
In fact we are both playing for the UK Goan Overseas St. Francis Xavier 
feast.  It is definitely no fake id.  Best Paulo Colaco Dias.  P.S. RKN, 
are you sure this guy is using a fake ID? 
***
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[Goanet] GBA*s Notice to all Tourists and Goans

2008-11-16 Thread JoeGoaUk

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GBA*s Notice to all  Tourists and Goans 

GBA*s Notice to all tourists  Goans, particularly south Goans.

North Goa observes ‘Dry Days’ as follows:

24th Nov 5pm onwards
25th Nov all day
26th Nov till 5pm
29th Nov all day

What’s ‘Dry Day’?
It means no drinking at all ( I mean Alcoholic drinks).
It means all license Alcohol selling premises such as Whole sale, retail sales, 
Pubs, Bar  Restaurants, Bar or Abkar, gadhi, sorea dukon etc  will be closed 
on the above days/timings.

Why on these days?
It’s because of the bye-election/voting  that takes place on 26th Nov. at
Pale constituency in Bicholim Taluka

If 26th  is the voting day, then why the hell 24, 25  26th Nov?
Sorry, I don’t know, please ask Election Commissioner of India
(all affected persons may please attend the public meeting on 22nd Nov at Azad 
Maidan Organised by GBA*)

Why 29th?
It’s vote counting day.  
With electronic voting machines, it should take less than 30minutes to declare 
the winner.
If started say 9am then by 9.30 the official result should be out. Don’t know 
why the day also is Dry Day.

What areas covered under North Goa?
Entire North Goa Talukas  i.e.  Pernem, Satari, Bicholim, Tiswadi  Bardez 
Having a total of  253 villages and  120 Panchayats.
Includes Tivim, Mapusa, Calangute, Saligao, Aldona, Madrem, Arambol, Baga,
Anjuna,Sanklli, Mayem, Valpoi, Panjim, Porvorim,Miramar, Taleigao, Dona 
Paula,St.Cruz/Merces, Siridao, Agxi etc etc

If voting takes place in Pale, Bicholim tatuka then why ‘dry day’ for other
4 talukas ?
Don’t know.  Again, ask ECI
Find their contact details here
http://electionsgoa.nic.in/


We are going to Old Goa Novena starting from 24th Nov.. 
Well, Old Goa too comes under North Goa. So, no beer or liquor served in the 
stalls or pubs around that area. Choose any other dates/timings than those 
mention above and plan your trip to Old Goa accordingly.
You can have 'cheuris paum  sorpotel paum but no copachem'  

Incidentally, many IFFI 2008 delegates who come to Goa will also be affected 
which starts 22nd Nov till 2nd Dec. (they too can join the GBA’s meeting on 
22nd Nov)

We in  South Goa are very lucky.. Ha. ha ha..
Don't laugh! If Churchill and Reginald are disqualified then  soon you will 
face the same fate.  North Goans will be lucky then. Ha Ha Ha

Any tips?

- Traditionally,  on Dry Days, they say there always exist a hole in the wall 
of the Bars or the tavern and liquor always flows through the hole.  You could 
try that in your area and at your risk.
-  Try stocking on 24th Nov. enough  to last you for next 2 days. Again, on
28th do the same.

* Did you say  GBA?
Yes, surprised? 
It’s Goa Boozers Association
So, be there to voice your concern.

All are invited to join except BS and it’s members

Free drinks will be served


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[Goanet] Portugal and Goa in the 21st Century: Towards an Alliance of the Small

2008-11-16 Thread Goanet Reader

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Portugal and Goa in the 21st Century: Towards an Alliance of the Small

Constantino H. Xavier
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3 a.m. in South Delhi. I am hugging a Mozambican, both of us
with tears in our eyes. It wasn't alcohol fuelling our
emotions, but goals; goals scored by men dressed in red,
beamed in live from distant Liverpool. Benfica!, we shouted
together into the Delhi night.

  We live in an age of superlatives and hyperbole.
  Though current financial crisis has exposed shaky
  foundations in the global financial system, the
  prefixes lure of the large still surrounds us. No
  longer restricted to the once imperial West,
  hegemonic agendas now also permeate the narratives
  of the 'Rest'.

India has its own triumphalism -- popular rhetoric about the
emerging 'elephant' or 'tiger', the new 'superpower of the
Asian century' -- grand projections that come along with
presumptions of long-lasting high economic growth to pay for
a blue-water navy and nuclear shields and big arms deals.

But my Delhi episode, which took place sometime in 2004,
reminds me of the beauty and importance of smallness. More
than the specific football institution Sport Lisboa e
Benfica, it was a feeling of solidarity and equality which
led us in to each others' arms whenever the Portuguese
players scored a goal against the British.

Those eleven men in red, representing a decrepit Southern
European club which insists calling itself Glorios, were
playing in freezing industrialised North England, against
powerful Liverpool F.C, and the reds were decided underdogs.

  When the match began, they were dismissed as having
  'absolutely no chance', because 'these Portuguese
  are tiny, and not just in stature'. It was these
  slurs that instantaneously united my Mozambican
  friend and myself, that evoking a surge of
  identification between that Benfica team, and
  Portugal and Mozambique too. This is the alliance
  of the small.

The alliance of the small

I suspect that there is a latent sensibility that binds
together the people, cultures and nations that exist towards
the margins of across our increasingly megalomaniac world. It
is a realization that the very fact of smallness is no longer
a handicap, but rather offers a tremendous potential to be
explored.

How wrong are those nostalgic Portuguese who imagine that
their once imperial country retains the slightest importance
in the economic arena! How wrong are Westerners who dream
about an 'alliance of democracies', as if eternally
non-aligned India would fall for that obvious anti-China
trap! And how wrong are those Goans who think that
'superpower India' serves as the ideal 'pay-back' strategy to
expurgate their post-colonial inferiority complexes! These
are golden highways to nowhere. What we need instead are
simple paths, narrow but secure, which recover and interlink
the plurality of tiny ports and communities created during
sixteenth century Globalization 1.o1.

Macao, Malaca, and Maputo. Luanda, Lisbon and São Paulo.
Goa, Díli, Praia, and Bissau. The crux of the matter is not
composed of coordinates and capitals. Above all, this is a
deterritorialised community of the small and diverse who are
committed to resist the homogenising impulses of
Globalization 2.0.

Sikh 'Indian-Portuguese' in Lisbon, Goans in Toronto,
Mozambicans in Delhi, Timorese in Beijing: these and all
other hubs of dislocation and hybridity are the
bridge-builders of Globalization 3.0, of an alternative order
which preserves the eternal human need to differentiate.
Smallness can no longer be construed only in geographic
terms; small is also different, exquisite, alternative.

  Herein lays the specific power of Goa and Portugal
  and the historical relationship which binds them.
  Portugal, on the Western flank of the flourishing
  European Union, and Goa, on the Western flank of
  powerhouse India share a parallel, peripheral
  situation. Both neighbour booming world cities such
  as London, Paris, Frankfurt, and New Delhi, Mumbai
  and Bangalore. Both are small but not insignificant
  units within their larger geostrategic contexts.
  And both face the infinite emptiness of vast
  oceans.

Goa and Portugal: One bridge and four pillars

When engaging with Goa, the Portuguese like to paraphrase

[Goanet] DO NOT PAY BRIBE

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Co-operate with CBI to ensure Corruption Free  Clean Public Service

Report instances of corruption against Govt. officers, employee, Nationalised 
Banks, Insurance Co., Air India/indian, Defence, Customs, Telecommunications 
etc etc

Any Public Servant..
- DEMAND BRIBE FROM YOU
- IS ABUSING HIS/HER OFFICIAL POSITION FOR PERSONAL GAIN
- HAS ACQUIRED/AMASSED HUGE WEALTH BEYOND HIS/HER LEGITIMATE INCOME

Inform CBI
(your Identify will be kept secret)

on 0832 2432932/ 2424433/ Fax. 2434710
Mob: 9423884100
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Office of the Supdt. of Police
CBI, Anti Corruption Branch
Surekha Building, 1st Floor, Near Doordarshan Kendra
 Altinho, Panjim, Goa - 403 001

Info taken from large Newspaper ad (qtr page) appeared in all Goan english 
dailies.

Pl keep this info handy.  Might be usefull on day.

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[Goanet] I have Rs. 5 lacs. Please help!‏

2008-11-16 Thread JoeGoaUk

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[Goanet] I have Rs. 5 lacs. Please help!‏

Dear Domnic bab,

I remember your query on this (quoted below)
 
I said, senior Citizen could get upto to 1% more
However most offer .5%
There may be some banks who offer 1% more
This one offer .75% more
http://iob.in/Rates_at_a_glance.aspx
 
Thanks.
 
Will visit your shop (Anjuna) one day for cakes and coffee.
 
Quote:
Domnic says..

Hi Joe,

Is it 1% more for 60 and above, or .5%?

Quote the original post
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-October/082765.html




  


[Goanet] Talking Photos: Majorda Church etc

2008-11-16 Thread JoeGoaUk

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Talking Photos: Majorda Church

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk15/3021971159/sizes/l/

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Does anybody know when is the feast at this Church?

It looks like the feast at Lourdes Chapel (now church?) is more popular than 
Majorda Church. So also, St. Rock feast at Calata Majorda near Alberi (home for 
the aged)

Simalarly, never heard of Cansaulim church feast.
3 kings feast at the chapel up on the hill is very popular i.e. Jan. 6
Also, St. Lawrence feast at Arossim chapel on Aug. 10 also popular.

As for Velsao, I know which is on Aug. 13/14/15
Also, there is a feast at the Pale Chapel Late Dec. St. Steve (Isteu)

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[Goanet] Goa news for November 17, 2008

2008-11-16 Thread Goanet News Service

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Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** I-League Preview: East Bengal  Sporting Clube De Goa -
Goal.com
[Nov 14, 2008]  Kolkata giants East Bengal host league leaders
Sporting Clube De Goa in an eighth round I-League encounter at
the Salt Lake Stadium, Kolkata later this ...
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*** Planes brush each other at Goa airport - The Statesman
[3 hours ago]  16: The wings of two chartered aircraft brushed
each other on ground at Goa airport today. Flight operations
were affected but no one was injured. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=2theme=usrsess=1id=231121cid=1271212010ei=CrsgSZqBG5fcMbeo0eIDusg=AFQjCNEalYDAJlp1ihkWjEXhfDkzQB91CQ

*** Ban on smoking in Goa after tourist season - Times of India
[Nov 15, 2008]  PANAJI: Smokers in Goa can puff away till the
end of the year - despite the law against smoking in public
places in the rest of the country as the state's ...
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*** Profs, docs turn musicians by night - Times of India
[2 hours ago]  Be it Goan real estate developer Armando
Gonsalves or Punes plasma technologist Max Babi or businessman
Orlando Noronha from Goa #148; they have all poured ...
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*** Goa: A paradise lost? - NDTV.com
[Nov 14, 2008]  Goa's beaches have always had a bohemian even a
dubious reputation as a haven for sex, cheap drugs and beachside
raves, drawing both charter tourists and ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080072682cid=0ei=CrsgSZqBG5fcMbeo0eIDusg=AFQjCNEq2G6-IDLwSDM-Uppzej1TxxMGAw

*** Accident: Transaero B744 and Thomsonfly B763 at Goa on Nov
16th ... - The Aviation Herald
[6 hours ago]  A Transaero Airlines Boeing 747-400, flight
UN542 from Goa (India) to Moscow Domodedovo (Russia) with 356
people on board, was taxiing onto the departure ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://avherald.com/h?article=41025687opt=0cid=0ei=CrsgSZqBG5fcMbeo0eIDusg=AFQjCNEz6O2yOCiUpRJhtoOrSdXWMtxJrQ

*** Iberia jetliner scratches Transaero fuselage in Goa -
ITAR-TASS
ASS, Russia - 6 hours agoThe Indian news agency PTI said that
the operation of the Goa Airport was suspended for a brief
period. Goa, a former Portuguese colony and currently one of ...
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*** Take Goa univ off Bill, CM to tell Centre - Times of India
[22 hours ago]  PANAJI: The state government will ask the
Centre to delete Goa Universitys name from the Bill pending in
parliament regarding its upgradation to a central ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Take_Goa_univ_off_Bill_CM_to_tell_Centre/articleshow/3718581.cmscid=0ei=CrsgSZqBG5fcMbeo0eIDusg=AFQjCNGh48us9vY0KgaKM4YmqT40a7m8XQ

*** Goa to have its own Anti-Terror Squad - Press Trust of
India
[11 hours ago]  Panaji, Nov 16 (PTI) Goa police will have its
own Anti-Terror Squad (ATS) since the state was frequently being
mentioned as a target by terrorists during ...
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*** Two planes escape collision narrowly at Goa airport - Hindu
[11 hours ago]  ... had a narrow escape when the chartered
aircraft brushed against the wings of another plane at Goa's
Dabolim airport Sunday afternoon, officials said. ...

[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (17Nov08)

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*** Goa on Child Sex Tourist Map ***

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Goa is a Dangerous place for Kids!


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[Goanet] A historical perspective on Non Resident Goans

2008-11-16 Thread Carvalho

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Antonio made an informative post when he talked about remittances from Bombay 
prior to liberation. Let me add to that.

These remittances of the British India Rupee not only bolstered the Goan 
economy but they also made up for the perpetual shortage of Goan Rupee in 
circulation. In 1942 Governor Cabral decided to make BI Rupee illegal tender in 
Goa. This caused a dire shortage of cash. Shop-keepers could no long pay taxes. 
They gathered infront of the Secretariat and begged the Governor to rethink.

By 1954, the Financial times listed remittances from overseas Goans as crucial 
to making good Goa's trade deficit.

By the 1990s, a strange thing happened in Goa. There was a skewed Investment to 
Savings ratio. Foreign exchange remittances had bolstered savings but there 
weren't enough enterprising businessmen in Goa to take advantage of this 
situation and invest in Goa.

Here is an extract from something I am writing at the moment:
Scarcity had become so dire, by 1943, people started dying of starvation. An 
entire family in Ponda, being unable to go on, was rumoured to have committed 
suicide. The government’s response was to crack its authoritarian whip and 
tighten its controls even further. The Governor instituted draconian penalties 
for hoarders. A shop-keeper caught hoarding rice had his stock confiscated 
besides being fined Rs 45 per sack. 

People who left Goa did not abandon Goa. They were fighting to keep body and 
soul together. Influenza, typhoid, water and food shortages ravaged Goa in the 
early half of the 19th century. What were people to do? 

Those that left did not suddenly discover Eden. Their lives abroad were riddled 
with the prejudice of racism  and angst of separation from their families. They 
rubbed two sticks together to make a fire and the third stick they sent back to 
Goa, to their families. To my mind,it is only in the eighties with the 
world-wide boom, that Goans began leading prosperous lives.

Someone said to me the other day, Goans are a community least interested in 
their history. I think it's true. If we don't know our history, we cannot 
respect those that contributed to it. Somewhere in Goa there should be a plaque 
to the Unknown Goan who toiled Overseas. Unfortunately, today we are told that 
we have no place in Goa or a say in its matters.


Best,
selma






  


[Goanet] Goa Liberation Front in London

2008-11-16 Thread Carvalho

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I understand that a Group of Goans in London had got together in the 1950s and 
started a Goa liberation front or the sort that existed in Kenya headed by J. M 
Nazareth.

If anyone has information about this or knows someone who would, please do 
contact me.

Many thanks,
Selma


  


Re: [Goanet] Portugal and Goa in the 21st Century: Towards an Alliance of the Small

2008-11-16 Thread Mervyn Lobo

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Constantino H. Xavier wrote:
 While the second edition is scheduled to be held in Lisbon,
 in 2009, the Government of Goa has already expressed its
 willingness to host the third edition, in 2013. This is a
 bold and visionary expression of intent which has excellent
 chances to succeed.

 The Indian-sponsored 2013 edition of the Lusophone Games in
 Goa would serve as a catalytic force to the development of
 the four pillars I have proposed. First, by concentrating on
 sports and the younger generations, the international event
 would be geared towards the future, and not the past.



Constantino,
You have always brought a unique perspective to Goanet. Over the past
several years, I have enjoyed reading your ideas. To add to this, someone
I know also confirmed that you speak well when delivering your thoughts 
in formal settings.


This email of yours itself is also good reading.

 
The only thing I want to point out is that I have observed, time and time 
again, that there are tons of people available to organize sports events.
In the developing world, there also are lots of people ready to donate to 
sporting events. 

In Tanzania, there is is no shortage of people willing to donate a cup
for a hockey tournament. On the national stage, China just built a stadium 
for Tanzania that cost $360 million.

The question I have is:
Don't you think that kind of money would be better spent building a hospital?
 

The Tanzanian capital still depends on a run down facility inherited from the 
British. Goa's health facilities are slightly better. If anything, Goa needs the
health infrastructure that will introduce it to the 21st century. It is a 
crying shame
to see people in Goa dying of diseases such as malaria and dysentery. Diseases
can be eliminated by very small budgets, if preventive programs are implemented.

 
Personally, I think that the first priority for public money i.e. taxes paid by 
hard 
working people should used to provide help for the weakest segments in
a society. First, provide education for all. Then provide health facilities for 
those
that need it. If and when there is surplus, provide the sports facilities for
the strongest in the society. Let them challenge the strong of other societies.
 
 
Providing public funding for stadiums and athletes of other countries is what 
will 
ensure that Goa remains small. Very small.
 
Mervyn3.0


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[Goanet] Daily Grook #278

2008-11-16 Thread Francis Rodrigues

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DAILY GROOK #278
 
 
NOT ROT

by Francis Rodrigues
 

the bureaucratic tribes 
only help the big-shots, 
demanding endless bribes 
they tie you up in nots!


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puns  word-play of all kinds,
if you read between the lines!
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Re: [Goanet] Can Kamat clarify?

2008-11-16 Thread Seb dc


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Kamat has sold Goa and Goa University including the assets of Goa 
University

to the tune of nothing less than 400 Khokas (Crores)

All Goanet members in this forum are most welcomed to contest or raise
responses or what ever .on this subject only to save GOA.



I am ready to contest:-) I will start with 50 p, but wait a minute!

What is the contest anyway??

Always good to smile for a while!!

hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb

PS: Will someone tell Kamat  Monserrate to be a memeber of Goanet? There 
seem to be alot of questions for them here!





[Goanet] Goanet Highlights - Nov 9 - 15, 2008

2008-11-16 Thread Goanet Highlights


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Goanet Highlights - Nov 9 - 15, 2008

Compiled by:  Selma Carvalho


Frederick Noronha gave us details of the programmes [1] scheduled for the 
Semana da Cultura Portuguesa:


1: 
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-November/083544.html



In an interesting article  and its sequel, Lionel Messias [2], looks at the 
questionable financing attributed to renovation of public gardens in Goa:


2: 
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-November/083446.html

   http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-November/083849.html


Jason Keith Fernandes [3] gives us an insight into text that may have found 
its way into the Regional Plan, which questions the legitimacy of activists 
in Goa and may lead to their eventual policing by the State


3: 
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-November/083453.html



In an incisive post titled, Mining and Art?, Hartman de Sousa [4], dwells on 
the integrity of Art exhibitions that are funded by the mining industry in 
Goa. The recently Goa Contemporaries exhibition held in London by well 
know curator Margaret Mascarenhas, is perhaps a case in point.


4: 
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-November/083489.html



Venantius Pinto [5], who himself is an artist, counters that very often 
artists are unaware of the financial or funding details behind the 
exhibition.


5: 
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-November/083497.html



In part 3 of Goa Mutations [6], Valmiki Faleira further examines the 
incompatibility of borrowed or inherited laws with prevailing conditions in 
Goa.


6: 
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-November/083513.html



Noted historian Dr Teotonio de Sousa [7], sheds light on Naguesh Karmali, 
the freedom fighter.


7: 
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-November/083663.html



Floriano Lobo of Goa Suraj [8], examines the Obama effect and its parallel 
in Goa. He writes Goa is not immune to this captivating flavour. The seed 
for change has been lying dormant for far too long.


8: 
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-November/083538.html



Miguel Braganza [9] posits the role of the State in a rape case even if the 
complainant later withdraws the case.


9: 
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-November/083616.html



Cecil Pinto [10] makes a case for Goans being More Portuguese than the 
Portuguese.


10: 
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-November/083841.html



Rabinder Pimenta [11], offers an interesting perspective on the Opinion Poll 
of Goa, and that credit for the historic outcome of the poll must be shared 
by several players who were involved at the time.


11: 
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-November/083636.html



Finally, the week was dominated by discussions about the protests by a few 
freedom fighters [12] against the Portuguese Cultural week held in Goa. 
While Samir Kelekar was of the opinion that protests were indeed justified 
and proposed instead a Freedom Fighters' week:


12: 
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-November/083690.html


While Gabriel de Figueiredo [13] gave us his views on the liberation of 
Goa.


13: 
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-November/083731.html




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[Goanet] GoaNette

2008-11-16 Thread Cecil Pinto

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Isabella (Bella Rebello-Hamm) wrote:
So well said!  It's one of the reasons I don't write so often on
Goanette. People start getting very personal. It is true we Indians or
Goans are emotional people, but other people are sensitive too. We
should respect their opinions if we want ours to be respected.
Sometimes I get this feeling, we have a peg of Fenni and then decide,
OK, now I'm going to vent out my unbalanced emmotions. But this is only
breeding ignorance!. The best results are only achieved when giving
one's opinion without hurting anybody else's  feelings.

---


Dear Isabella,

Being a keen student of the English language I found some of your
spellings quaintly interesting.

Spelling Fenni with a double 'n' is not unique, but rather rare. I
myself prefer 'Feni'. Caju Feni to be exact.

Also 'emmotions' with a double 'm' is quite appealing and yes a bit unbalanced.

Now considering that all your names, including surnames, contain a
double letter combination I am assuming that this is a hereditary
trait. A study of your ancestors' names should reveal such a pattern.

Your major contribution though to GoaNet in particular and the English
language in general is the way you spelled it as Goanette'. The
suffix 'ette' brings to mind the dimunitive and the feminine. A small
scooter, a small kitchen, a small cigar, a female bachelor, a female
major...

Maybe a new GoaNette could be created that is small and feminine.

Cheers!

Cecil

P.S.
I Googled 'GoaNette' and found no entries. Isabella, that means you
have coined a word. Congratulations.

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[Goanet] Libre Knowledge - Monday-muse (17 Nov 08)

2008-11-16 Thread Pravin Sabnis

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MONDAY MUSE (17 Nov 2008)

LIBRE KNOWLEDGE

Yours truly conducted two training workshops at the JCI World Congress held in 
Delhi from 4 to 9 November. Participants tend to be lavish in their praise if 
they like the workshop and we, as trainers, endeavour to sift the grain from 
the chaff so that we can connect to real feedback. The maximum appreciation is 
reserved for my action of giving away my entire presentation to the 
participants for free.   

However, some question the wisdom of sharing knowledge so freely. In fact a 
couple of trainer friends advised me to stop the “professional hara-kiri” I was 
committing by sharing training anecdotes in my Monday Muse series. My response 
is to quote Rabindranath Tagore who wished for a land “where knowledge is free.”

It is ironic that in today’s internet driven knowledge world, some people 
insist on claiming ownership of learning which itself is based on an 
understanding based on the learning shared by others. Knowledge flourishes only 
when shared freely. In fact, knowledge is threatened by efforts to confine or 
control its sharing. 

Learning needs to be freed of fetters to enhance collaboration and cooperation. 
The scope for development of knowledge is enhanced when it is allowed to be 
acquired, interpreted and applied freely. A choice to walk the path of 
libre-knowledge is very liberating. An individual who shares knowledge freely 
is considered worthy of not only affection, respect, trust; but also as 
deserving of greater sharing by others, too. 

To BE BETTER walking the way of the wise…
Choose to share knowledge freely to rise!

- Pravin-da
17 November 2008, Goa, India.

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penned by PRAVIN SABNIS - a life coach with a passion to connect people to 
their passion  potential. He employs creative competencies in theatre  
trekking in his UNLEARNING UNLIMITED workshops conducted for leading corporate 
 other groups. 



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[Goanet] Depression Economics, Goa Too ?

2008-11-16 Thread eric pinto


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OPINION   | November 14, 2008
Op-Ed Columnist:  Depression Economics Returns
By PAUL 
KRUGMAN - 
A


Washington Public Radio broadcast describes near empty shopping malls around 
Delhi:  locals attribute the business crash to a drop in trade with the 
West. US numbers for october were beyond the pale, and sent the Dow into a 
tizzy on friday. Will a december collapse of GM halve the Index again: I saw 
that prediction on CNBC yesterday.  I believe Dubai is in the hock to the 
tune of fifty billion dollars, and if the squeeze on iron ore and the cruise 
lines was not enough, we can now expect many of our young workforce to 
return home to Goa from the Emirates.



The world had rebuilt after the First War, and the 'gay 
twenties' saw  New Yorkers and Londoners high-step and boogie on Broadway 
and the Strand.  German reparations financed the Florida railroad, but greed 
produced the overbuilding, with a financial collapse that would gift the 
whole world the 'Great Depression'.
The hungry in North America lined up at soup kitchens, 
and an angry Republican named Roosevelt quit his Party and swore never 
again, to his people.  His taxes paid for the Job Corps which hired the 
likes of Reagan's father: they built the mighty Hoover Dam and other 
monumental projects. Starving Germans, however, would turn to a demagogue 
named Adolf, much as anxious Republicans saw hope in the form of an 
identical wacko, in the 2008 primaries, a funny named evangelist governor, 
in the South.


We rose again from the ashes of the Second War, and one 
cannot deride our achievements of the last sixty years.  The lessons of 
history are often lost on people and their leaders, however, and I hope we 
have  not set into play the moves that will give us a repeat of the times we 
had hoped were long behind.



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[Goanet] SACKING MARGARET ALVA BY ANTI-CHRISTIAN CONGRESS

2008-11-16 Thread jane gillian rodrigues

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Dear Goankars,

As per e-mail below, The Congress has proved, that they too are ANTI-CHRISTIAN 
BY SACKING MARGARET ALVA.

REGARDS,

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:58:22 +0400
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Subject: [Goanet] Ref: Our Most Enthralling Politicians
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Ref: Our Most Enthralling Politicians



Margaret Alva in distress over refusal of ticket for her Sanu Baba



Alva questions, why her son Nivedith and grand son of former Union minister C K
Jaffer Sharief were not given nominations while relatives of two dozen leaders
were given tickets in Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, Rajasthan and Jammu and
Kashmir. And asks,Were my son and Jaffer Sharief's grandson anti-national,
terrorists or smugglers ?.



Most enthralling !! Isn't it ?


[Goanet] Christian leaders wake up to the plight of the community

2008-11-16 Thread jane gillian rodrigues

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Dear Goankars

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 peter  rodrigues wrote :


16th November, 2008

Friends,

Now that it is quite apparent that even the powerful Marathas will be given 
reservations in government services, the only community being denied 
government benefits are the Christians.

Whilst, Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Buddhists,  are all granted government 
benefits, it is paradoxical  that Christians are being refused the same, 
especially since the latest survey of the National Sample Survey Organization 
(NSSO) dated 31.3.2007  reveals that the unemployment rate among Christians is 
higher than that of Hindus and Muslims.

The report with data on the status of employment of people belonging to the 
major religious groups states that in rural areas, the unemployment rate was 
4.4% among
Christians, 2.3% among Muslims and 1.5% among Hindus.

In Urban areas, the unemployment rate of Christians was 8.6% higher than other 
religious groups, which was 4.4% for Hindus and 4.1% for Muslims.
Also, unemployment was highest 14% among Urban Christian women.

The Report was an extensive study, covering 1, 24,680 sample households, 
79,306 of them in 7,999 villages and the rest in 4,602, urban areas.

Although the report is over a year old, no action, and reservations have been 
given to the Christian community.  The UPA Government should stop this 
discrimination and immediately grant benefits to Christians in the Public 
sector.

It is surprising that no Christian leader has yet made this demand.

With best wishes,

(DR. J. PETER RODRIGUES)
2, Court Royal, Christ church Road
Byculla, Mumbai – 400 008
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And

Tivim Village
GOA