[Goanet-News] Goa news for November 13, 2009
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa festival features 200 films - Hollywood Reporter inema-to-take-bollywood-by-storm_100273301.htmlusg=AFQjCNHPYGLzhQLjlTTgoAjkHRX-ZPkl2wT20 cinema to take Bollywood by storm! http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/awards/news/e3ia59bfc00cf09b10b6dea87812644f124usg=AFQjCNGZ3zfIsRtUIXFPW3wKeytPMG7dPA *** Sigh of relief as cyclone spares Goa - Herald Publications rawlers-still-missing-in-Goa-after--Phyan-usg=AFQjCNH_y7GaoPsdACzRMlGhQVkFXwKttg10 trawlers still missing in Goa after 'Phyan' http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=29837cid=10usg=AFQjCNE3u6SAGYWXjv_XT_zlPA6MtdL_EQ *** Gowariker's Khelein Hum Jee Jaan Sey takes off - Oneindia _gCbum9DLgOO6CtngUGmKQ'Khelein Hum Jee Jaan Sey' starts rolling http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://entertainment.oneindia.in/bollywood/news/2009/khelein-hum-jee-sey-mahurat-09.htmlusg=AFQjCNFXlEj8d4nTtJvOcqCFAI38hXzKUg *** Engineer held in Goa blast case - Hindustan Times ing Hindu group Sanatan Sanstha (SS) member, an electronic engineer, for the Diwali eve blast in Goa, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Engineer-held-in-Goa-blast-case/H1-Article1-475383.aspxusg=AFQjCNExH7EzZwodN7eqLr_5RzsrJLkKYg *** Cyclonic storm 'Phyan' to weaken in six hours - Press Trust of India tandard.com/india/news/mumbai-edu-institutions-offices-asked-to-shut-down/78026/onusg=AFQjCNG66JPpxSNCfF-P7-g-c9CoijLv2wMumbai edu institutions, offices asked to shut http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ptinews.com/news/372633_Cyclonic-storm--Phyan--to-weaken-in-six-hoursusg=AFQjCNGMrx1Mvi_hfjjVZHY7wXYGfGI1CA *** As Goa gears up to welcome tourists, police admits drug sale - Daily News Analysis rade-may-increase-during-tourist-season-goa-police_100272991.htmlusg=AFQjCNEDGfsPcdWLlJpDF07Cmvn5mPeU6QDrug trade may increase during tourist season: Goa police http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_as-goa-gears-up-to-welcome-tourists-police-admits-drug-sale_1310094usg=AFQjCNGBzeeeXCYq0wMYmnjnBgmoVeLeqA *** Goa Kissed by Cyclonic Wind Storm... - Daijiworld.com ijiworld.comAccording to the North Goa Collector Mihir Vardhan not much damaged was reported except for few houses being damaged in the Coastal areas of North Goa and a ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=68198n_tit=Goa+Kissed+by+Cyclonic+Wind+Storm...usg=AFQjCNFFJhsbt_bjC6acr-PBei5oBxuy3g *** Second day's play of Goa-Assam match washed out - Press Trust of India ess Trust of IndiaMargao, Nov 11 (PTI) Unseasonal downpour continued to play spoilsport as the second day's play of a Ranji Trophy Plate League Group A match between Goa and ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ptinews.com/news/371913_Second-day-s-play-of-Goa-Assam-match-washed-outusg=AFQjCNGS6tj83Tx5mBiTfEVyB4fvGgVsnw *** Drugs rife in India's Goa despite crackdown - Independent dependentTwo foreign tourists walk down to the shore at Anjuna Beach in the Indian resort state of Goa. In tow is a local man, persistently offering them a menu of ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/drugs-rife-in-indias-goa-despite-crackdown-1818467.htmlusg=AFQjCNFNb9kkvIbibb1MGVLkxuS50Exqaw *** Jobs for NRGs, Konkani, figure at Goan meet - Times of India esident Goans who want to set up ventures in Goa, discussions on the promotion of Konkani and an open house ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Jobs-for-NRGs-Konkani-figure-at-Goan-meet/articleshow/5217698.cmsusg=AFQjCNEUeBmcuoaLkQ79Nyc2ceO8SdyeFw Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] ESSAY COMPETITION ON GOAN MIGRATION
ESSAY COMPETITION ON GOAN MIGRATION November 13, 2009 The Department of NRI Affairs would be holding an Essay Competition for students having maximum age limit of 25 yrs, who are doing their under graduate or post graduate studies in colleges in Goa or at the Goa University. The essay competition shall be on one of the following topics: 1. Socio-Economic impact of Goan Emigration, 2. Goan Migration Does it benefit Goa? The Essay could be either in Konkani, Marathi or English. It should be neatly hand written or typed with the maximum number of words not exceeding 1500. The Head of the Institution of the participant student should certify that the essay submitted is his / her original contribution. The three best entries in each language will be given cash prizes of Rs. 3000/-, Rs. 2000/- and Rs. 1000/- respectively. Students desirous of participating in this Essay Competition should submit their entries to the Office of the Commissioner for NRI Affairs , Room 103, Ministerial Complex, Secretariat Porvorim, Goa latest by November 30, 2009. DI/NB/MP/SM/JA/2009/ -- DIRECTORATE OF INFORMATION AND PUBLICITY. THIRD FLOOR,UDYOG BHAVAN, NEAR AZAD MAIDAN, PANAJI GOA PHONE-0832-2422675 0832-2226047 0832-2426168 FAX 0832-2224211
[Goanet] Release of Another Goa (Margao, Monday, Nov 16, 2009)
Dear Goanetter, Just a few lines to share with you the news about the upcoming release of my book, called 'Another Goa' (Broadway and Goa,1556, Pp 192, 2009). This book contains some of my favourite work on Goa, and is being released on Monday, November 16, 2009 at a function on National Press Day at the Ravindra Bhavan Margao. I am grateful to Goanet for encouraging my growth as a writer and enabling me to get feedback (both positive and importantly critical too). This network has also helped spur me on to focus more on a Goa where the returns in mainstream journalism can otherwise be disencouraging. Thank you warmly for being part of this journey. The cover of the book -- done artistically by Bina Nayak -- is visible online here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/4090272550/ or http://www.facebook.com//photo.php?pid=2663324id=502514643 Regards and hoping to see you if you're around Margao! FN PS: The National Press Day function begins at 10 am, with a talk by noted journalist P. Sainath, and a panel discussion. The book release should be later in the morning. -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism
[Goanet] Wanted Urgently:Panchayat Pre-Election Pledge!
*Wanted Urgently:Panchayat Pre-Election Pledge!** *While our MLAs are more than eager to take away the rights of the panch members, the panch members are equally keen to divest themselves of their responsibilities towards members of the Gram Sabha. All over Goa we hear stories about pandemonium at Gram Sabha meetings where the discussion is more often than not a shouting and insulting match between the panch members and the people of the village. The elected panch members appear to forget that they are also sons and daughters of the village and as the cause of this timely amnesia is well known there is no need for elaboration. What is more important is to send a clear message to all panch members in Goa today that they will not be able to betray the people who elect them after they are elected and get away with it. All panches who are going to stand proudly for panchayat elections in future should be made to sign a pre-election pledge where they have to make a sacred commitment not to go against any majority decision of the villagers in the interest of the village. Although this pledge is not legally binding it gives the ward members a moral right to take their panch to task, as well as to apply considerable non-violent pressure for breach of trust. Anyone, of course, who does not sign the pre-election pledge is not trustworthy and should be declared as one. The elected panchas show us the nice side of their face prior to panchayat elections and the other side once they are elected. The humble and meek panch with the friendly smile then becomes a sly and arrogant fox after he is elected. This has to stop in the interest of the village, and Goa, too. The panchyat pre-election pledge provides the necessary brakes. Long live democracy!
[Goanet] Panic in Bicholim as leopard attacks dog (photo in the file)
-- Samir Umarye BICHOLIM, NOV 12 A leopard attacked a dog at Wavti-Bicholim on Wednesday night, creating panic among the villagers. According to villagers, the leopard strayed near the house of one Anil Govekar at Wavti and tried to attack a dog sleeping outside the house. “First, we heard the dog barking. Later, we heard the cries of our dog and sensing some danger, I decided to go outside,” Govekar told Herald. “As I went out, I saw the leopard trying to carry away our dog by his throat,” informed Govekar. “The leopard was successful in pulling the dog almost 100 mtrs away from the house and when I flashed the light from the battery, the leopard ran away leaving his prey,” said Govekar. Govekar also informed that since last some days, there were cases of dogs missing in the area. It may be recalled that last year, leopards had created terror in Vawti, Vathadev and Naiginim in Bicholim taluka and the forest department was successful in catching some leopards. Meanwhile, due to the incident there is an atmosphere of panic among the villagers in the area.
[Goanet] V-Ixtt: Deepavali Uzvaddachem Fest
Deepavali Uzvaddachem Fest Ogrlekh (Editorial) Deepavali hem Tamil utor. Deepavali mhollear diveanchi voll (diyas in Line). Hi porob Hindu, Jain ani sikh bhav-bhoinni uzvaddachem fest mhunn monoitat. Dive ek vollin pettovop mhollear amche bhitor asa tea boreachem vaittacher zoit vhorop. Tamil lok Deepavlik, Divali mhonnunk fattim sortat, kiteak tamil bhaxen Divali utracho orth ujeachi baldi oxi somzonni asa. Soglleanchea tonddacher asa ti somzonni mhollear Deepavali, mhonnche uzvaddachem fest, punn odik dharmik nodren pollelear deepavali mhonnche amche bhitor asa tea uzvaddachea kirnnanchi ami zagrutay vaddovop oso zata. Hindu dhormache somzonne pormannem, bhaile kuddi von odik molachem jem asa tem promannik, xudh ani omor (pure, infinite ani eternal) zaka atman mhunn somzotanv. Zoso ami amche kuddicho zolmacho dis somarombhtanv tech porim amchea bhitorlea uzvaddacho ami deeepavli vellar ugddas kortanv. Amche bhitor asa tea uzvaddacho ugddas korun, uzvaddache vatter asa teo soglleo addkholleo ami kaddtanv ani amchea nennarponnantlim mekllim zatanv. Hi zagurtay monxak aplea khorea soimbacho ugddas kortat. Monxachem khorem soimb mhollear tachi kudd nhoi, punn ek bodlona toslem, ogonnit, asnnem ani sogleak fankarta toslem soimb( unchanging, infinite, immanent and transcendent reality). Osle zagrutayechi atmanchi vollokh melltoch sonvsara sovem doyallay, mog ani ek khas zagrutay mellta. Ananda, amche bhitorli khoxalkay, he porim nirmann zata oxem hindu filosofichi somzonni asa. Deepavali hea festacho ugddas kelear lokachea monamni veg-veglleo bhavna yetat.Thoddeank Deepavali mhollear suttiyo (holiday), zalear dusreank narkasur. Lok somzotat ani monoitat te porim ek-ek pavtti deepavalichea orthacher add vetat oxem disunk laglam. Khorench, Deepavalichi somzonni kai bori ti. Hacher visor ghalop mhollear ami ek bhaxecho bhroxttachar kellea sarko. Jezuchea utrancho mhaka ugddas yeta - Tum Sonvsaracho Uzvadd. Ho uzvadd sonvsarant utponn korunk amkam amche bhitorli zagrutay asonk zai. Punn polletoleank disti poddonm ani aikotoleak aikunk yena hem mat sarkem zait veta. Voir dille deepavaliche somzonne pormannem, kristanv bhav-bhoinnank hi uzvaddachi porob somarombhchi mhunn umed sodanch astoli. Hi umed omor urta. Zoso fankpi uzvadd kosloch bhed-bhav korina tech porim ami monxall doyall ani moga karyam kortanv tednam ami-i kednach bhed-bhav korina zaunk he porbecho ek khas ulo asa. Punn odik orthabhorit deepavli zatoli zalear amchea bhitorlea uzvaddachi ami zagrutay vaddounk favo. Amche bhitor asa to kallok nopoit korunk ani sonvsarbhor anand fankarunk osl i porob amkam prernna dita. Vavradeancho Ixtt - Worker's Friend http://www.v-ixtt.com
[Goanet] MUSIC: Interview with Milind Raikar
DD 'Sahyadri Channel' (India) will be telecasting an interview with violinist Milind Raikar (by Varsha Usgaonkar) in M2G2 on Saturday, November 14, 2009 at 1930hrs (7.30 pm.) A repeat telecast is scheduled for Sunday @ 2pm Milind will also perform at the AIR National Concert on December 20, 2009. A planned live broadcast by Prasar Bharati is in the works. Milind Raikar has studied Hindustani [ Indian Classical Music] under the able guidance of his father Late Mr. Atchut Raikar. Milind used to play Western violin in his earlier days. He has passed Grade Four from the famous Trinity of College of London under the tutelage of Prof A.P. De Costa. His father wanted Milind to take up Hindustani Music and become a Fine Violinist who would contribute in preserving Indian culture / heritage with its rich music. Hence, Milind shifted to Indian Classical music and devoted and dedicated himself to it completely. http://www.violinmilind.com/profile.htm Goanet AE www.goanet.org
[Goanet] Fwd: Jumble Venue WANTED
If anybody can assist Sujata, please contact her. -- Forwarded message -- From: sujata noronha bookworm_...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:15 AM Subject: Jumble Venue WANTED Dear All, Bookworm's Annual Jumble Sale slotted for Jan 2010 approaches and we need a venue. We need a space - large that is accessible and can be used for 3 weeks in January, preferably in Miramar/St.Inez. Please let us know if you or anyone you know has a space that can be offered to us. Our jumble sale is integral to the financial feasibility of the Book Treasury program - that puts books in classrooms in schools that do not have access to library books. Thank you and looking forward in hope Best, Elaine Sujata ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* Visit our blog: http://goabookworm.wordpress.com 9823222665 or -832-2420146. Bluebelle 2nd Fl, Tamba Colony, St. Inez. ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*
[Goanet] Ganesh at Tambdi Surla
Could someone direct me to a picture of the Ganesh statue at Tambdi Surla. venantius
[Goanet] Bandra... wine
Bandra Wine Tasting Festival: http://www.musicplusvideo.com/PGCGEW -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (13Nov09)
...and the 2009 Vincent Xavier Verodiano Award goes to.. Victor Hugo(a) Go(a)mes Keeper of Goa's Heritage To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] Damanese Aniceto do Rosario who laid down his life
While an useless debate goes on about how many Goans laid down their lives, the real truth here is that Aniceto do Rosario from Damao was butchered by indian thugs during the tumultuous days pre 61. BC
[Goanet] An amazing story.... If You Are Looking for a Big Opportunity, Find a Big Problem.
On the surface, India is a mess: It has a population of 1 billion, raw sewage on the streets, and traffic that moves at 20 MPH. But if you can look past India's visual obscenity, you will see a country that is turned inside out. India is the new frontier of the new economy... If You Are Looking for a Big Opportunity, Find a Big Problem. http://www.fastcompany.com/node/42111/print -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism
[Goanet] Interesting photos of Goa (1952,54) by James Burke
http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2language=en-USfamily=editorialassetType=imagep=goa%20james%20burke#
Re: [Goanet] Non Resident Goans
2009/11/12 lyrawmn lyra...@yahoo.com: The Government of Goa's message and inducements are unmistakable: Leave Goa, women and men. Toil, but send home to Goa the fruits of your sweat. We give your children scholarships and subsidies; we will offer specializeded training and placement for you to find work outside Goa. Just send home your money. Instead of retaining and investing in the workforce by job creation at home. And directing educational aid and opportunities to children and families of resident Goans where it is needed. To increase the living standard and prosperity of all resident Goans for present and future generations. Dear I. Nunes, The alternative interpretation could be: The Government of Goa has no single coherent message, or even a comprehensive understanding of the situation. It is willing to pander to the migration-virus that Goans have long suffered from. It is unable to take up the more difficult tasks -- of building local talent, boosting creativity (Samir's recent points are valid) -- and instead opts to take the easy way out. Besides, one arm of the Goa government doesn't know (or cxare about) what the other is doing. Education being imparted is quite out of sync with the kinds of jobs available. And so on. The NRI study probably reflects more the perspective of the current NRI Commissioner, rather than that of any any present or past chief minister or Cabinet. It may be not fair to blame anyone for encouraging migration, but it might be apt to say that 'planning' in Goa means just riding any wave that comes one's way -- whether it's the unpredicted pharma boom, charter tourism (despite its problems) and so on. After the NRI debate, the activist-priest Fr Bismark was making the point about Goa promoting migration. My protest was that (i) we Goans -- specially Catholic Goans -- seem to have a migration-virus which cannot be fought till we migrate (ii) it's all well for returned Goenkars, ex-migrants themselves, to critique the process of out-migration! Who elected these bozos? Where were you bozos when we bozos elected these bozos under a bozo electoral system which you presume is meant to serve the interest of the common(wo)man? :-) One more thing: Is Goa really more expensive than say Mumbai (with one of the costliest sq. footage space, on par with Hong Kong and Tokyo) or even Bangalore? best, I. Nunes I was not talking real estate; nor do I have precise figures to back up this point. But take the price of a humble rice-plate and you'll probably agree with me. The fish-curry-rice which I paid Rs 5 for in 1987 today costs Rs 40! Markets in Goa are costlier than in many other locations too... Maybe others could add or counter this point of view. FN -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism
Re: [Goanet] Love For Goa And Konkanni Is Synonymous
Freddy Bab, Well said, but you got your facts wrong as far as Mumbaikars Goans are concerned. No catholic Mumbaikar Goan speaks Marathi or Hindi in their homes..It is mostly English and Konkani. Most of the goans I know speak Konkani at home..specially the elderly folks but are shy to speak when they meet other Goemcars for social gatherings...my mother in law only speaks Konkani, my wife born and brought up in Mumbai speaks Konkani as well...Most Mumbaikars children understand Konkani but may not be fluent in speaking. In Goan Kudds it is only Konkani and no English...even the meetings are held in Konkani.. Hindi or Marathi is spoken only to others communities. Dev borem korum Eddie Verdes - Original Message - From: Freddy Fernandes Love For Goa And Konkanni Is Synonymous Goans say that their Mother Tongue is Konkanni, but for some unknown reasons, Goans in Mumbai prefer to speak in Marathi, Hindi or English but not in Konkani, the Goan Diaspora spread all over the world, proudly speak in English, most of them don't even acknowledge that Konkanni is their Mother Tongue, worse still are the educated Goans in Goa, who prefer to speak in English rather than in Konkanni, what are we trying to prove ? What are we trying to show ? We say we are Goans and we love Konkanni but when it come to proving it, we fall way short in our commitment towards Konkanni.
Re: [Goanet] A garden, bandstand
From what I can gather, it was Prabhkar Sinari et al who, in the middle of the night, brought down the bust circa 1963. Please correct me if I'm wrong. As to limited recreation, perhaps the author of that article did not like a more sedate evening after the relatively hard day's work :-) Shouts of Diar-Noich (Diario da Noite was the evening paper), Sort Sort - falean abertur, and sometimes Yea sonsarant sogleank kui!... mingled with the crows' chorus among the trees when the band wasn't in attendance ... Ah! those were the days! - Original Message From: Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Wed, 11 November, 2009 12:33:31 PM Subject: [Goanet] A garden, bandstand This an interesting article in memory to the few such public squares in Asia. I remember Guna the barber and his newspapers. The senior librarian carefully sidesteps the forced removal of the bust of Vasco da Gama by the current colonial ruler of our land besides, he lacks the guts to tell the reader who built the square and has the audacity to tell us 'it happened after liberation'. __ Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. Learn more: http://au.overview.mail.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Diesel Scam in RND/Ferry Boat Dept?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3812899328/ Diesel Scam in RND Dept? Believe me or not! After going through the shocking revelation (Herald Edit, see quoted), I had decided to go to Cortalim jetty and check myself. Today evening, we went there only to ascertain as to how many trips a ferry boat can make as per the schedule timings. First Ferry boat leaves Cortalim at 6am and the last at 9.10pm Each Ferry boat can make maximum of 31 trips as per the schedule So two ferries would be 62 strips per day Annually it would be about 22,320 But RND (River Navigation Dept) claimed 42,340 trips during the last year. (in an reply to a RTI by an NGO from Madkai) So, what’s going on here? Multi-Crore scam? Diesel pilferage? Choramchem Raj? In most cases, the total should be less than the scheduled trips as most ferries breakdown (which is quite common with RND’s ailing ferries). Trips schedule http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/4098390877/ (see edit. below the pic) At Panjim-Betim, we very rarely see two ferries. At least there should be two ferries during peak hours e.g. 6pm-730pm We see only one overloaded ferry plying day and night. Again, First ferry leaving at Betim at 6am and last at 9.45pm From Panjim, it is 6.15am 10pm respectively. As per the schedule, it shows 41+41 strips = 82 trips It appears that even with just one ferry boat, it can run as per the schedule. Thus making the scheduled trips all 82. It takes about 5 minutes each way. After our trip to Cortalim, we took the ferryboat ‘Colva’ from Panjim to Betim which left around 9.34pm. Arrived Betim at around 9.40pm and the same ferry left Betim at 945pm arrived Panjim around 950pm And it will leave Panjim (last trip) at 10pm. Panjim-Betim Ferry timings http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/4098465369/ Also, we often see only one ferry plying at Rai-Shiroda, near Rachol Church. Shortest, distanced ferry crossing, I would say Carona-Calvim which takes less than 2 minutes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04cRQscIL4M Similar Scam (diesel pilferage, if any) in KTC cannot be ruled out. Ferry pics http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3825091526/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3812899328/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk21/3792273503/ cc Porrikar cbi joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Kala Mogui Kuwait all set for 7th anniversary celebrations tomorrow
Prince Jacob's wake-up call in ZAIAT ZAGE PRINCE Jacob is all set to present his Konkani drama Zaiat Zage - 70 mm Entertainment in Kuwait on 13th November 2009 (Friday) at the Daiya Fencing Club Hall (2nd Ring Road-Daiya) at 4:15 p.m. sharp. The show is organized to celebrate the 7th anniversary of Kala Mogui Kuwait. Transport arrangement has been made from Kuwait City - Bus will ply from Tasty Restuarant, Near G.P.O., Kuwait City. The chief guest, H.E. Shri Ajai Malhotra, Ambassador of India and the guest of honour is Shri Albano Pinto. Prince Jacob his Troupe will take the stage as scheduled to meet the chief guest's schedule. Book your seats in advance to avoid last minute disappointment and the organizers seek full cooperation from the Konkani loving people and thank in advance. For reservations please contact Raja Stores, Kuwait City - Tel: 22412970 or organizers: 99391452, 97439165, 24726524 or email: kalamo...@gmail.com ON PRINCE JACOB: I was crying bitterly at the death of my father and suddenly, I heard the audience laugh, recalling a scene from Roseferns' Akant (one of his early dramas) he says, From that instant I realized that the audience expected only comedy from me. Several laughter filled years later, Antonio Pereira crowned Minguel Jacob Carmo Luis Fernandes, the Prince of Comedy after a laugh-riot role in Tapot hence was born Prince Jacob. It began at a tender age of 13 for the then Don Bosco Oratory student when late Rosario Dias introduced him in Chuk Hanvench Adarli, ever since, there was no looking back, recalling his Oratory days he remembers his mentor Fr. Henry Torra, who instilled a certain discipline in him and bro, Felix who imparted valuable tips in composing songs and skits. A front runner in singing, acting and debates, Jacob owes his success as an able orator to teacher, Fatima Rebello who shaped him up initially. They say it is dangerous to give a mike to an orator and the dog, a bone, laughs Jacob. The keen interest for tiatrs was developed in the formative years. I used to accompany the late Souza Ferrao for his plays and manage to get a free entry for his tiatrs. Ferrao was encouraging and even introduced Jacob to Melody King, late Alfred Rose, who predicted potential in him. Late Jacinto Vaz Charlie Chaplin of Konkani stage gave his budding career the necessary thrust by constant encouragements. Jacob's young talent was then tapped by star directors like Ligorio Fernandes and Roseferns an in 1985, teaming up with brother Humbert and Milagres he established, Prince Jacob Production. In his initial days, Jacob was known for directing tiatrs beginning with the alphabet P, I did 25 tiatrs right from Pinzrem to Padri, while one tiatr was being staged my audience would suggest the title of my next venture, he recalls. After exhausting P he went on to R with Rodonaka. Today he commands a dedicated fan following not just in Goa but across India, Gulf States UK. To tiatr loving Goans spresd over the world, Prince Jacob represents a vibrant brand ambassador of contemporary tiatrs. A serious actor who graduated to comedy, Jacob is a born entertainer, To have the ability to provoke laughter is a God-given talent. He says. I thank God as I feel I have helped the audience in putting their sorrows away, Jacob reveals saying if he wasn't a tiatrist he could have been a priest. Jacob has dared to bring bold innovations to tiatrs from making a Doberman act in Pavnnek, doing magic in Raza Raani and four roles in Rupnem based on the Marathi hit-play Sahi-re-Sahi. Jacob took his entire star cast to Mumbai to watch it before doing his Konkani adaptation and he watched it 12 times. Jacob's works included 16 centuries in tiatrs which have been appreciated by his countless fans who have helped him bag awards like Goa Post, Gulab and Kala Academy. Recently, Jacob is ruling the air waves through Big FM 92.7 as its celebrity RJ. I have entered people's hearts through tiatrs, now I want to enter their homes, says the producer of 11 audio releases. Jacob feels, as a tiatrist can be very exhausting when you are an actor, writer, producer and director, and to elucidate the dilemma to his children, Jacob introduced his eldest daughter Jewel Valankanni in Passport and recently son Jason in Viswas. Now Emerald is beginning to realize that it may be her next, he says of his youngest daughter. Apart from tiatrs, Jacob has also produced Padri a film that has so far been screened 315 times it ran for a record two months (4 shows daily) at Margao and two weeks in Panjim, and also one show each in State of Bahrain Kuwait. His other VCDs on St. Francis Xavier and Fr. Jose Vaz have also been well received. In his latest, Zaiat Zage, Jacob is giving a clarion call to Goans to wake-up and defend Goa. I foresee what will happen ahead and portray it in my script, he says. it's a must for
Re: [Goanet] Veteran's Day: Goans who laid down their lives (response to FN)
Hello Frederick and Goanet readers, --- On Thu, 12/11/09, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: Nascy, the rest of your post was very interesting... but I thought the statement below came with some inbuilt bias. Christian Goans were socially advanced, in that they had no taboos and other superstitions about eating or handling food that the British and westerners ate; and that is the reason they were employed in large numbers on variuos Ships at the time, and EVEN NOW. Nascy replies: Frederick, I do not see how u can talk of 'inbuilt bias', on this matter. I am only stating a fact regarding peoples' social advancement. This particular advancement albeit 'enlightenment' in this matter of taboos and superstitious beliefs, is what qualified many of the enlightened persons to jobs and careers with the respect of and accommodation by the 'employers' and 'the ruling elite of the time'. It was only fair that people clinging on to weird beliefs and taboos were unsuccessful in such endeavours that the Goan, Mangalorean and Bombay Christians excelled and be rewarded! This is the gist of my statement. If at all, it is the un enlightened primitive beliefs' poeople that are biased against social progress. Man has to progress from primitive to modern. Social interaction within any society or with other societies needs to change as 'Man' advances thru the milleniums! Keeping up with the times as well as integrating with various societies and cultures within India and around the world as well, is the 'way to go' forward and 'progress'. I hope U will now say that I have 'inbuilt bias' for Progress! and against clinging to ancient primitive superstitious ways and beliefs that are counter productive, and DO lead to many other problems and Conflict. Frederick: We could always see situations we like and claim that these are indicators of being socially advanced (whatever such a construct means). Nascy: Education (not necessarily formal) and enlightenment from 'ignorance' helps to 'see, not just look' and 'listen, not just hear' at discerning indicators of social advencement. Frederick: Could we point to the Christian Goan hang-ups over sexuality, their tendency to get involved in intense litigation or their weekly attendance of Sunday mass as a sign of being socially advanced? Nascy: What hangups over 'sexuality'? It is 'live and let Live'; not a hangup! Attendence at Sunday Mass is a religious undertaking, and is a common behavior among Christians and does not come in the way of others, nor does it restrict one's freedoms. Unwarranted litigation is what U are reffering to; then it is just that; and is not confined to Chritian Goans, or any other sect; it is universal: The lawyers and advocates are the cause of this! Else they would be unemployed! Law and Litigation are any time better than Violence and Murder,Bombs and Trisuls,Fatwahs and Jihad and all that primitive nonsense being paraded as Culture and or Religion. Frederick: I think different communities are just that... different from one another. We can see each for what they are, a mix of diverse preferences and backgrounds. It could be argued that a community is 'socially advanced' and enlightened because it chooses (more environmentally sustainable and kinder-to-the-animals) vegetarian diet. But that would be as realistic as the argument above. Nascy: I agree with part of what U are implying here! Provided these norms are 'not imposed or forced' on others, thru 'Bans, segregation and apartheid like methods! That is again primitive!. What about kinder to some animals and not others?? Some 'primitive' societies worship 'some' animals and others they slaughter and eat! Then there are some 'Human Animals' that these same people, despise and subjugate. Casteism and like thought is not advancement, U will agree with me I know! Frederick: At last count, my dentist was mentioning that the Goan Christian has teeth problem due to the consumption of vinegar. (Fact is, I hardly consume vinegar!) But the jury is still out whether that comment came because of established research or because a you-should-be-like-us tendency all of us have encoded in us! Nascy: The above is what YOU are saying. I am not commenting on that. This is more in the field of Science and scientific Medicine. Santosh who is patronisingly scientific or some good qualified Dentist should be helping U here! Frederick: Thanks again for your other, though-provoking inputs. FN Nascy: Thanks from me too! It's been nice 'talking' to you on goanet! Nascy Caldeira. __ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Casa da Moeda/Mint House, St. Tome, GPO etc
Thanks Joe, for those photos - I always wondered who the mustachioed gentleman was though I never seemed to have the time to look him up close despite having been a Panjimite for the first 25 years of my life and passed by the triangle zillions of times. - Original Message From: JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org Sent: Wed, 11 November, 2009 2:15:06 PM Subject: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Casa da Moeda/Mint House, St. Tome, GPO etc Talking Photos: Casa da Moeda/Mint House, St. Tome, GPO etc Dr/General Miguel Caetano Dias who bought the 'Mint House' in 1904 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/4093669128/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/4092904883/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/4093670420/sizes/l/ __ Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. Learn more: http://au.overview.mail.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Wanted Urgently: Panchayat Pre-Election Pledge!
*Wanted Urgently:Panchayat Pre-Election Pledge!** *While our MLAs are more than eager to take away the rights of the panch members, the panch members are equally keen to divest themselves of their responsibilities towards members of the Gram Sabha. All over Goa we hear stories about pandemonium at Gram Sabha meetings where the discussion is more often than not a shouting and insulting match between the panch members and the people of the village. The elected panch members appear to forget that they are also sons and daughters of the village and as the cause of this timely amnesia is well known there is no need for elaboration. What is more important is to send a clear message to all panch members in Goa today that they will not be able to betray the people who elect them after they are elected and get away with it. All panches who are going to stand proudly for panchayat elections in future should be made to sign a pre-election pledge where they have to make a sacred commitment not to go against any majority decision of the villagers in the interest of the village. Although this pledge is not legally binding it gives the ward members a moral right to take their panch to task, as well as to apply considerable non-violent pressure for breach of trust. Anyone, of course, who does not sign the pre-election pledge is not trustworthy and should be declared as one. The elected panchas show us the nice side of their face prior to panchayat elections and the other side once they are elected. The humble and meek panch with the friendly smile then becomes a sly and arrogant fox after he is elected. This has to stop in the interest of the village, and Goa, too. The panchyat pre-election pledge provides the necessary brakes. Long live democracy!
Re: [Goanet] Questioning the conventional wisdom on global warming
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:18:19 -0800 (PST) From: marlon menezes goa...@yahoo.com It looks like Mario gets his inspiration from Iran's Ahmednijad's school of thought. The latter claims that there was no holocaust. Given that only 0.2% of the world's population was eradicated in the gas chambers, I guess it is easy for both Mario and Ahmednijad to assume that such small fractions are inconsequential! Mario observes: After trying to confuse cyanide with CO2, Marlon, who gets his inspiration from Al Gore and Michael Moore and habitually tries to intimidate members with personal attacks and bald faced distortions of their positions, now tries another analogy that is equally bogus. This is the same gentleman who pretends to be a libertarian but is seen here desperately pushing for a takeover of the world's economies by a small cabal of self-serving environmental elites. Marlon still hasn't explained how the 0.036% of CO2 in the earth's atmosphere is going to decline when man-made CO2 is only estimated to be 0.013% of the atmosphere, with the balance 0.023% created by Mother Nature, and so many of the world's fastest growing economies are unwilling to participate in destroying their economic growth. How is regressing only the western economies while the others continue business as usual going to make any difference to man-made CO2. Marlon conveniently ignores such details deflecting attention with his trademark off-topic bluster. While Marlon desperately mangles facts and logic with inappropriate analogies with cyanide and Ahmadinejad, here is an example of how nonsensical are the prescriptions actively being pursued by his fellow extremists in the American Democrat party - courtesy George Will in the November 16, 2009 issue of Newsweek. Legislation proposed by the Democrat party in the US calls for reducing greenhouse gas emissions - essentially CO2 - to 83% below 2005 levels by 2050. This would amount to 1 billion tons of greenhouse gas emissions according to analysts at the American Enterprise Institute think tank. The last time the US had that small an amount was in 1910, when there were only 92 million Americans, 328 million fewer than the 420 million projected for 2050. To meet the 1 billion tons of greenhouse gas target in a nation of 420 million, per capita CO2 emissions would have to be no more than 2.4 tons per person, which is one quarter the per capita emissions of 1910, a level probably last seen when the population was 45 million, which was in 1875. Remember, the US and the western economies are the economic engine for the economies of the rest of the world. What will happen to the less developed economies if the environmental extremists succeed in letting a small number of self-appointed charlatans at the UN's IPCC squeeze the western economies down to the levels they are proposing? Does this make sense to any rational person interested in the development of the entire planet? For another look what is really going on, see the following article in a recent edition of The Wall Street Journal: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125686509223717691.html Finally, I would like to thank Marlon for providing these opportunities to give Goanetters a factual look behind the conventional orthodoxy they are mostly exposed to, especially in India, and to the illogical policy prescriptions of the UN's IPCC. This is now all being challenged by the emergence of some inconvenient and embarrassing facts that draw attention to the questionable information they have been insisting is accurate even though it was based on unverifiable mathematical models of the future, which we now have been wrong for the last DECADE.
[Goanet] EdelGive Social Innovation Honours 2010
The objective for the EdelGive Social Innovation Honours 2010 is to identify and reward organisations that are innovating to empower women in India. This year’s award categories are as follows: • Health and well being: Awarding an innovation which promotes women’s health and overall well-being • Education: Awarding an innovation which provides women with access to education and /or improved quality of education • Livelihoods: Awarding an innovation which helps women increase their income, and / or provides them with employment opportunities. • Social and Cultural rights: Awarding an innovation which helps women overcome social and cultural challenges. • Governance: Awarding an innovation which prepares women to participate in available legislative positions In 2008, the Indian financial services firm, Edelweiss Capital Ltd partnered with Kubera Partners, a private equity firm based in USA and launched the EdelGive Social Innovation Honours (formerly known as the Kubera Edelweiss Social Innovation Honours), a national awards programme, managed by EdelGive Foundation, with a vision to recognize, promote and support outstanding innovations that are catalysing positive social change across India. Ernst Young Pvt. Ltd., the Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS) and the Institute for Rural Management Anand (IRMA) are partners of the EdelGive Social Innovation Honours to ensure transparency and rigour of processes. For further information on the award categories, the broad selection criteria, etc please contact call: +91 22 65240579/80. Please note that the deadline for receiving applications is 21st of December 2009. http://www.edelgive.org/honours.htm
[Goanet] Human Pollution
M. Gouveia: Was your friend smoking or drinking something illegal at the time?:-)) Me: What makes you think that? Please elaborate. M.G: Your friend seems to be a Goan Scrooge, with no sympathy or generosity towards hardworking laborers and other service providers. Me: So be it. You have a problem with his way of thinking? Has he asked you to be his disciple and follow him? M.G. Tell him wages and prices equalize demand and supply. Me: And so now you have metamorphosed into an econmics professor. Please put your economic tinkering to better use. The US of A which is deep in recession needs your pseudo skills. With a lit bitta luck, it might improve! M.G.: No wonder they are pleased to see NRI's when we come:-)) Me: You must be kidding. I as a local (and I assure there are droves of others), would welcome you not only with a black flag, but a whole black banner which runs across the street. :-P And what is more, to show my admiration, I would garland you with a string of discarded chappals! -- o . . o o_.__' Cheers! \~/ \ / '-.-' Tony de Sa |M: +91 9975 162 897 _|_ Ph: +91 832 2470 148 `` tonyd...@gmail.com W. Somerset Maugham: I always find it more difficult to say the things I mean than the things I don't. .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:
[Goanet] India Untouches by K. Stalin
Press Note The International Centre Goa and Moving Images will be screening K Stalin’s award wining documentary India Untouched on November 21st at 6.30 p.m. at the International Centre Goa. The screening is open to the public and will be followed by a discussion with the director K Stalin. ‘INDIA UNTOUCHED- Stories of a People Apart” (108 minutes. Multi linugual with with English sub-titles, Directed by Stalin K., Produced by Drishti and Navsarjan) is the most comprehensive look at the “untouchables” in India. Motivated by ancient religious edicts, no amount of governmental encouragement has been able to stem the tragic custom that separates human beings according to their birth. Those considered untouchable suffer more than isolation, they are forced to fulfill menial tasks in their communities, drink from separate containers, remove their shoes on the street as a sign of respect and perform or exhibit many other outward signs of their perceived inferiority. While the media projects a positive image of a democratic India, filmmaker Stalin K spent four years traveling the country across many linguistic boundaries to expose the continued oppression of the Dalits, “the broken people,” in a wide variety of communities, including Sikhs, Christians and Muslims. Stalin also captures in subtle ways the everyday routine events in which untouchability comes to be practiced and reproduced. In so doing the audiences are left wondering if they too are almost with their conscious knowledge are covertly colluding with this humiliating discrimination. Stalin K is a human rights activist and award-winning documentary filmmaker. In recent years, he has become known for his pioneering ‘community media’ work with urban and rural communities, in which local people produce their own videos and radio programs as an empowerment tool. He is the Co-Founder of DRISHTI- Media, Arts and Human Rights, and Convener of the Community Radio Forum-India. He is a renowned public speaker and has lectured or taught at over 50 institutions ranging from the National Institute of Design and the Tata Institute of Social Sciences in India, to New York University and Stanford and Berkeley in the US. He currently lives in Goa and heads Video Volunteers, a media and human rights organization dedicated to empowering community voices. ‘INDIA UNTOUCHED’ is Stalin’s second film on the issue of caste—his earlier film ‘Lesser Humans,’ on manual scavenging, won the Silver Conch at the Mumbai International Film Festival and the Excellence Award at Earth Vision Film Festival, Tokyo, and helped to bring international attention to the issue of caste. Awards: Silver Dhow, Second-best Documentary, Zanzibar International Film Festival, Tanzania, July 2008 Golden Conch, Best Documentary, Mumbai International Film Festival, February 2008 Best Film of the Festival, Mumbai International Film Festival, February 2008 Best Documentary, Mahindra IAAC Film Festival, New York, November 2007 Best Film, One Billion Eyes Film Festival, Chennai, India, August 2007 Festivals: DC Meets Delhi Film Festival, Washington DC, September 2007 CineCufa Festival, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, September 2007 Hamptons International Film Festival, New York, October 2007 Copenhagen International Documentary Film Festival, November 2007 Mini Indian Film Festival, Connecticut, November 2007 Mumbai International Film Festival, India, February 2008 Amnesty International Film Festival, Netherlands, March 2008 Tallahassee Film Festival, Florida, May 2008 India Express Film Festival, Amsterdam, Netherlands, November 2008 Bahrain Human Rights International Film Festival, May 2009 Shrikant Vinayak Barve For Moving Images 9403175973 The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Cyclone Phyan effects at Campal
Cyclone Phyan effects (Nov.10/11 2009), River Mandovi, near Arabian Sea Rough waves/water seen thrown out right into the trees/land (upto 25mtrs from HTL) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/4098993126/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/4098994230/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/4098992154/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/4098234919/sizes/l/ joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
Re: [Goanet] Release of Another Goa (Margao, Monday, Nov 16, 2009)
Congrats! I . DANTAS From: Frederick Noronha Dear Goanetter, Just a few lines to share with you the news about the upcoming release of my book, called 'Another Goa' (Broadway and Goa,1556, Pp 192, 2009). This book contains some of my favourite work on Goa, and is being released on Monday, November 16, 2009 at a function on National Press Day at the Ravindra Bhavan Margao.
Re: [Goanet] Our Politicians and Corruption
Dear Freddy, As always, I admire your write-ups. I choose to comment on this one because you have chosen to say that 'our Indian democracy most certainly has an incurable cancer'. Corruption alas has been the bane of Indian Political system right from Pandit J. Nehru's time when Nehru failed to bring to book his close friend and associate, the then defence minister Krishna Menon in the first ever Jeeps scandal in the Independent India. If Nehru had own- up on his responsibility to the nascent biggest democracy in the world in cauterizing corruption at that time, Goa would not have been invaded to safe-guard the electoral prospects of Krishna Menon. But again, to contrast the above, if Narashima Rao had not indulged in purchasing the required numbers of MPs from JMM at the cost of crores of rupees, he would have not been able to form the government and give India the economic wizard in Manmohan Singh. If this had not happened, India would have sunk to the bottom long before Kodas of the day could rip us shamelessly for thousands of crores of rupees. And talking of Narashima Rao, I have always wondered as to how a cadre RSS like him could have become the Congress Prime Minister of India. This is the reason that I have gone on record many times of saying that the Congress is far from being secular. It is worst than the Communal BJP. Perhaps, with this disclosure, Narashima Rao and the lot of late Congress stalwarts will be turning in their graves or where ever they may be :-)) India, and more particularly, Goa urgently needs the 'Budwig Diet' to cure this corruption cancer that is taking Goa to the terminal point of no return. Goa needs a systemic change in governance which only Goa Su-Raj Party can deliver. When the blood that runs into Goa's bloodstream has turned into poison, the onliest way to undo the damage and prevent the ultimate catastrophe is to give total transfusion of clean blood. None of Goa's political parties can do this, now, or a decade hence. And by that time Goa will be dead and gone if Goa Su-Raj Party is ignored and made fun of. Apart from the poisoned blood, every organ, every joint and sinew in Goa's body is working for itself unmindful of Goa itself. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org - Original Message - From: Freddy Fernandes ffernandes@emaar.ae To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:54 PM Subject: [Goanet] Our Politicians and Corruption Our Politicians and Corruption If sex is synonymous with glamour, then corruption too is synonymous with politics in India today. Politics is no more a virtuous profession that it once was, but an easy means towards money, power and position. Our politicians will spend any amount of money to get a ticket and then win an election by any means, fair or foul. Once elected the money spent, is recovered in record time. Even as Cricket, which was supposed to be a gentleman's game has acquired the viability and commerciality of a race course, politics has acquired the viability and the thrills of a casino, wherein jackpots are hit as per the ministries they are affiliated to, which in fact lubricate the silent wheels of fortune even further. No etiquette codes are followed or for that matter none required. Even the global economic melt down fails to stop the inflating fortunes of our politicians.. ..problem or a stomach problem, so that they can have five star treatment at the best hospitals at the cost of the exchequer rather then the hardships of a prison cell, then our Indian democracy most certainly has an incurable cancer.
[Goanet] Join the remembrance for Road Traffic Victims on Sat. 14th November 5pm in Panjim.
--- Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help CONSUMERS in Goa to be better informed. -- -- World Day of Remembrance for Road Traffic Victims* *-- As a concluding part of its Childrens Road Safety Traffic Management Awareness Fortnight being observed alongwith the village based Consumer Forums and campus based Consumer Welfare Clubs which includes Children's Day the World Day of Remembrance for Road Traffic Victims, GOACAN is observing a remembrance day from 5pm on Saturday 14th November to 5pm Sunday 15th November. Worldwide, almost 4,000 people are killed and many hundreds of thousands injured every day on the road. These figures are predicted to grow. The price in terms of human loss, grief and care is immeasurable. Road crashes are the leading cause of violent deaths and injuries worldwide and the World Day of Remembrance is drawing attention to the scale of this global disaster. The World Day of Remembrance for Road Traffic Victims was initiated by RoadPeace in 1993 in the United Kingdom. Since then it has been observed and promoted worldwide by several NGOs and this is now globally recognised. On 26 October 2005, the United Nations endorsed it as a global day to be observed every third Sunday in November each year. WHO and the United Nations Road Safety Collaboration encourages Governments and NGOs around the world to commemorate this day. This will be a major advocacy day for road traffic injury prevention and as an appropriate acknowledgement for victims of road traffic crashes and their families. In Goa over 300 deaths take place every year of men, women and children due to Road Accidents which means there is one death almost every 28 hours. In this connection, GOACAN is organising a gathering of remembrance on Saturday 14th November at the Mermaid Garden near GTDC Residency in Panjim from 5pm - 7.30pm. Through this gathering GOACAN hopes to ensure that the impact of Road Deaths and injuries will be better understood and the causes of the same would be addressed urgently. GOACAN appeals to citizens to join-in this gathering of remembrance in Panjim on Saturday 14th November and bring along a candle, a banner and a message poster if any. GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa --- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mail: goa...@bsnl.in Visit: http://goacan.blogspot.com --
[Goanet] Sub: Solutions to avoid fraud at Grass Roots by Agostinho Proenca
A WORKABLE SOLUTION TO END USAGE OF FRAUDULENTLY OBTAINED- RATION AND ELECTORAL CARDS. The following Resolutions were proposed by Agostinho Proenca and passed unanimously at the Calangute Village Gram Sabha dated 4th January, 2009. Resolution No.5(1) Dated: 04/1/2009 Resolution: DELETE NAMES FROM THE ELECTORAL ROLL It has been unanimously resolved that all the migrants/non permanent residents and the floating population names appearing on the electoral rolls to be deleted immediately. (a)To facilitate detection of such names a copy of the latest Electoral Roll to be obtained by the Panchayat. (b) A copy to be given to the Panchayat office to the person(s) in-charge of collecting house tax who can verify/certify the residents of the village through the Panchayat records. (c)A small committee to oversee/verify the report submitted by the Panchayat office to be elected in this Gram Sabha and headed by Joseph Sequiera – Sarpanch. (d) This whole exercise should be completed within four weeks. (e)When the persons are identified, required form to delete the names is filled up and submitted to the competent authority i.e. Deputy Collector, North by giving him a time frame to act upon. (f) If the Deputy Collector or other competent authority or authorities do not take corrective measures to delete the names the Panchayat is authorized to take legal recourse including approaching the court of law. Proposed By: Agostinho Proenca Seconded By: Jose Braganca RESOLUTION No. 5(2) Dated: 04/1/2009 RESOLUTION: Cancel/Withdraw RATION CARDS It is unanimously resolved that Ration Cards issued to migrants/non permanent residents and the floating population should be immediately cancelled and withdrawn. (a)To facilitate detection of such names the Panchayat is to approach the concerned Mamlatdar under “Right to Information Act” to obtain details such as the names, addresses and card number. (b) After receiving the details the same should be provided to the Panchayat office for verification with the Panchayat office House Tax Records. (c)A small committee to oversee/verify the report submitted by the Panchayat office to be elected in this Gram Sabha and headed by Joseph Sequiera – Sarpanch. (d) This whole exercise should be completed within four weeks after receipt of the records. (e)When the unauthorized persons are identified the list with complete details should be forwarded to the competent authority or authorities for immediate cancelation/revocation of the Ration Cards with a time frame to act upon. (f) If the authority or authorities fail to take action the Panchayat is authorized to seek any and all legal remedies including approaching the state Vigilance Department, Anti Corruption Bureau and or a court of law. Proposed by : Agostinho Proenca Seconded by : Jose Braganca NOTE: It was also proposed by Agostinho Proenca and resolved by the Gram Sabha that no elected Panchayat Member would be part of these committees ( to keep them from protecting their illegal VOTE BANK). Except for the Sarpanch who has to head all committees nominated by the Gram Sabha as per the Panchayat Act. Would like to state here that full cooperation was extended by the presiding Sarpanch. The procedure is in motion; soon to be completed.
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Re: [Goanet] Goans who laid down their lives.
I fully support Selma's views On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but war memorials were put up by countries which waged (or actively took part in the) war. Usually the victors. -- OK FN, I'm correcting you. War memorials are put up in countries to honour their dead who died in battle. Here is one in Delhi which honours those who lost their lives in World War II, even though their participation may not have been entirely voluntary. I'm not sure whether it was initiated by the British. http://www.asi.nic.in/asi_museums_delhi_indianwar.asp We should have a similar musuem memorial in Goa to honour the lives of those Goans who worked on British Navy ships. It is not impossible to find their names they have been recorded. Infact, I would strongly urge a museum dedicated to the lives and history of our tarvottis, brave men of the sea. Best, selma
[Goanet] Fw: Sovereign Investments.
Oil states and China are now buying agricultural land across poorer continents. It is a sign of the times: recent pricing of rice and sugar on world markets will convince others to follow the lead. I remember when gold ran up to 800 dollars, only to retreat to 200, and stay there for a decade. Mugabe banana dollars may not fetch you a berry, but things are a little different at the US Mint. If their 'virtual' currency is a wear-proof plastic card that thirty million citizens use to take home an average of a hundred and forty dollars worth of free groceries, every month, then perhaps there is more that meets the eye than just the old Freemason 'eye' emblem that sneaky Jefferson placed in US bank notes. So even as one is wary of US pennies - now Montreal Alcan aluminum, not copper - exporters to the US face limited options when it comes to cashing in on their good fortunes. Perhaps Merv would broker to India a few counties in Alabama and Arkansas rice country, and throw in a bonus Ontario vineyard! eric.
[Goanet] Hail Fundamentalists!
The government must keep the Sanathan and other militant religious fundamentalists alive just like USA needs the excuse of the Al-Quaeda to intrude into Asia. What would have been the fate of politicians and political outfits in this country if the religous fundamentalists did not exist since independence? We need to eliminate the maoists and the naxalites at any cost because they remind us of the harsh reality - the rich and poor divide and exploitation - and they are a hindrance to the rich man's ( (politicians included) greed for exploiting the natural resources in the north-east. The maoists and naxalites cannot be prefered to religous fundamentalists because they (naxalites and maoists) keep on embarassing the rich of this country by keeping alive the fact that there are millions of oppressed and exploited in this country. We definitely need the religious fundamentalist outfits and they should not be banned without sufficient evidence of their terror activities. After all how can we be so ungrateful and forget the great contributions of these religious fanatics in independent India who have helped in the polarisation of vote banks? And how will Digambar Kamat and the plundering forces distract the people of Goa from the mass land conversions, destructions of forests and agricultural land, corruption and mega construction, if religious fanatics do not kill themselves with country bombs and heighten communal passions by desecrating temples? How will Digambar Kamat and band of 40 jolly politicians keep the people of Goa entertained if the most emotive issue of religion is capped once and for all. If religious divide does not exist in Goa, how will the real estate lobby justify their claim that it is the church which is instigating the anti-development agitations because the christians are getting out numbered in Goa? If a few more temples and churches are not desecrated, politicians would find it extremely difficult to distract the public from the on-going destruction of Goa and would lose their vote banks. Just as Voltaire had said that if there was no God man would have to create one, similarly if there were no religious fanatics the politicians and the capitalist forces would need to invent them. So Manohar Parrikar, Digambar Kamat and Ravi Naik are well justified in their war over the Sanathan. We need the Togadia, Modi, Tytler, Patil and Godse to keep Goa burning so that people can be entertained with candle light processions, Jagran rally's and newspaper debates while even greater violence against Goa's environment and Goans can be continued by the politicians and exploitative forces. One can well imagine how politically explosive Goa would have been if a religious divide did not exist. India's pre-emergency era of the early seventies is a witness to the extent of political tremors that shook this country when all forces joinned hands, forcing the government to declare an emergency. Instead of banning these religous fundamentalist outfits, politicians cutting across party lines need to honour the religious fanatics for their role played in securing political stability, political distraction and the political future of a bunch of rascals. -Soter D'Souza
[Goanet] Goan veterans
Dear FN, A very good question.I too am now wondering if any Goans did fight for the Axis powers. Would someone enlighten us. Regards, Mike
Re: [Goanet] Goanet] Shame on Saligao's parish priest
Ummm ... so what is the wedding photographer to do? I think in the interests of brevity, the notice is kept to its essentials. IMHO, what the sign wants to say, is, Do not photograph persons unkown to you, who might object to being photographed. People in prayer often reflect emotions in their contenance, and it is photographing this stituation that people object to, as it invades their privacy. Respect for the other party is all that is required. Just as many people take symbolic writing literally, so also, it appears that certain guardians of the premises also take their notices literally :-). In any case, if one wants to photograph anything, notice or no notice, I think it is polite to request the permission of the owner or guardian of the property, if they are around, before photographing. Who knows? it could help build good relationships, and one can never have enough friends and acquainatnces ... - Original Message From: JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk To: goa...@goanet.org Cc: goan-...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 8 November, 2009 5:41:58 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goanet] Shame on Saligao's parish priest Thanks FN, Fyi, Bom Jesus Church rule says ‘DO NOT PRHOTOGRAPH PERSONS’ Which means not even wife allowed to photograph her husband or vice versa. We know, we been there. __ Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. Learn more: http://au.overview.mail.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Indian Football Federation-Kuwait adds a new chapter
IFF added a new chapter by organizing the matches on the artificial pitch (Turf) Indian Football Federation Kuwait IFF added a new chapter by organizing the matches on the artificial pitch (Turf) at the Dayaa grounds on November 6th 2009. It was an overwhelming experience for all the players to play on this novel surface and the credit should go to the high profile members of Indian Football Federation Kuwait for arranging the new ground at such a short notice as the previously scheduled ground was under maintenance. The 1st match in the IFF tournament was kicked off between the mighty DHL v/s the energetic Don Bosco Oratory (DBO). But the day clearly belonged to DBO and especially Leroy Rodrigues from DBO who scored a hat-trick and single handedly took the game away from DHL. The game commenced at 7:20 AM and within 15 mins after the kick off Leroy put DBO 1-0 up by cleverly placing the ball behind the net from a ball that was superbly crossed by Leo Rodrigues. But within minutes DHL fought back and equalized with the help of Roland Fernandes who neatly placed the ball to the right of the goal keeper. The score remained 1-1 at half time. DBO clearly dominated the second half of the game and Leroy once again proving a thorn for the DHLs defense as he scored 2 more goals and completed a hat-trick. DHL tried its best to make a come back into the game but all its efforts went in vain as Steven Rodrigues scored the fourth goal for DBO and sealed the game. By the end of the game the score remained DBO (4) - DHL (1). Leroy Rodrigues Match 2 was played between the experienced Sky Net team V/S the seasoned Veterans. The game started with both teams trying their best to draw 1st blood but both the teams came extremely close in doing so. Fortunately for Sky Net the first goal came in the form of a self goal that deflected off the defender of the veterans team leaving the goal keeper stranded. But the sprit of the veterans team did not deter. As veterans players tried their best to equalize. Sky net on the other hand pressed equally harder to score more goals but the walls of veterans which is formed of defenders like Mervyn Fernandes and Teddy Pinto did not allow Sky Net to succeed. By the end of the first half the score remained 1-0. 15 mins into the second half sky net scored another goal with the help of Binoj Cheruvathor. The scored remained the same till the end of the match. Sky Net (2) - Veterans (0). Friday 13th November 2009 will see the Youth of Dominic Savios battling against the dynamic AVC and all eyes will be on the second match for the day to watch the skills and control of MAC and Indians that will be playing against each other for the very first time in the IFF League. The matches were officiated by the member organization and the only professional one in the business Indian Football Referee Association IFRA which is an important part of IFF. Another notable factor was the presence of the families of the teams attending the matches which were missing all these years. This is due to the professionalism and discipline inculculated by the Indian Football Federation. Towards the end of the matches players were seen requesting the IFF Kuwait officials to conduct the whole season on the same pitch. It was a joy to those who experienced it and pain to those who missed the opportunity. According to officials of IFF Kuwait three grass grounds in Kuwait are earmarked this year for the whole season. Upcoming Fixtures are as follows: 13th Nov (7:00 AM): AVC V/S Dominic Savios 13th No (8:30 AM): Santos United V/S Indians 20th Nov (7:00 AM): DBO V/S MAC 20th Nov (8:30 AM): Veterans V/S ACV Sai Sainath Rajkumar Sarode sai_sar...@gmail.com
[Goanet] Power / Benefits of Gratitude
Researchers find being grateful yields more happiness, higher levels of well-being, less depression and better sleep. Gratitude is a powerful antidote to depression, causes less stress; and individuals are more satisfied with their lives and social relationships. See the 3 links below: Health Leader - Grateful-ology Thankful for your HEALTH: Researchers find being grateful yields more happiness, less depression and better sleep gratitude and happiness | Mind-Body-Mood Advisor: You Can Buy Happiness, but Not with Money | Rodale News Regards, GL
[Goanet] Syngenta's disaster mock drill foiled, Company told to pack off from the Dulapi village
It all began out of blue at 2.45 pm today November 13 2009 - on the eve of Children's day in India - afternoon with the blowing of loud siren from the Pesticides plant at Dulapi, Corlim in Goa's Tiswadi taluka. Siren blew for 15 minutes. Then at 3.00 pm Goa Police accompanied by Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) arrived in four Sumo Jeeps and one CRPF bus and straight away headed into the houses of the villagers. Then began ordering women and children to get into the bus. As the bus was being filled up the spread into the entire village and people gathered and blocked the bus from moving away with women and children on board. Mamlatdar of Tiswadi got into verbal clash with the adamant villagers. He was questioned as to where women and children are being taken. He disclose that it is mock drill for disaster management. To this villagers got infuriated and asked as to who ordered this action. Mamlatdar said that it is a deputy collector based in Panjim. Then villagers demanded that deputy collector be called to meet the villagers. Then, Deputy collector Shabaji Shetye turned up in Dulapi. He was given hostile response when he ordered the villagers to get out from the road and let bus proceed ahead to an unknown destination with women and children in it. Villagers refused to move away. Women and children got out of the bus. Shabaji Shetye was grilled on the methodology of conducting the mock drill. CRPF jawans was told to shut up and stay away from the dispute. They obliged. Deputy collector then was asked as to why villagers were not informed about the mock drill to which he expressed surprise. Deputy collector was told that villagers are happy to die if the Syngenta leaks and the villagers are opposed to any disaster management mock drills. Villagers told the Deputy collector and high ranking police officials present to supervise the mock drill that the demand of the villagers is that Syngenta be shut down and the people's agricultural land taken to set up this Swiss pesticides plant 40 years ago - then known as Ciba of India limited - be handed over back to Mangado and Dulapi villagers in Corlim Panchayat. Deputy collector understood the situation, apologized to the villagers and only then villagers allowed the CRPF bus to get out the village. Sebastian Rodrigues http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/2009/11/syngentas-disaster-mock-drill-foiled.html _ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop
[Goanet] How Catholic Bishops Threw the Health Care Debate into Turmoil with Anti-Abortion Maneuver
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:04:30 -0500 From: Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com This piece will give people a sense of high intrigue and manipulation, and its not just the Catholic Bishops, but other horrendous parties in play here. And so it goes, with the power they have to dictate and alter peoples lives. Worth reading readers comments on the site at the bottom of the article. Nothing is easy, we all know that. Mario observes: It's called tit for tat. The liberals are trying to pass a massive government run health care bill based on false pretenses, and the conservatives are trying to stop them. Why false pretenses? Because the bill excludes tort reform, one of the foremost factors in causing health care in America to be so expensive. Also, the bill doesn't change the current restrictions on health insurance companies that prevent them from competing nationwide. These two provisions alone would reduce health care costs considerably and make health insurance more affordable for millions of Americans. Here is what the most credible and independant polling organization in America found: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/august_2009/54_say_passing_no_healthcare_reform_better_than_passing_congressional_plan While most Americans want health care reform they don't like what The Democrats in the House are proposing. From the exasperated tone of your comments and the adjectives you have used above, it looks like you support the notion that elective abortions should be supported and paid for by all Americans. In the US the government has been prohibited from using federal funds to pay for abortions since the Hyde Amendment was passed in 1976. Why don't liberals who support abortion on demand form private fundraising organizations that would pay for abortions privately rather than muck up public policy and programs that include millions of Americans who oppose abortion? Furthermore, on the larger issue of altering people's lives on what objective evidence are you concluding that THIS government run health care plan will work efficiently and within projected budgets when every government run social program in US history, with the lone exception of the prescription drug program passed by the previous administration, has exceeded its original projections several fold and are all running out of money when they were originally supposed to be self financing? Not to mention the financial and operating messes in the government run health care programs in Canada and Britain, which are decades old, and are getting worse, not better.
[Goanet] Agassaim-GoaVelha bypass, will it be ready before Christmas?
Will this bypass be ready before Christmas? I don't think so.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/4098191349/sizes/l/ This pic taken from a moving bus yesterday, 12th Nov.2009, Goa-Velha end. The original estimate was Rs.4 crore The same is now 12.5 crores (up by more than 3times) 10% commision itself comes to about 1.5 crores Plus, kickbacks More delays means more costs and more costs means more commission. Who are the loser? quote: Ready by 10th Dec 2009 NT 6th Sept. 2009 The new deadline is December 10. The chief engineer, Mr J Chimulkar told NT “The entire network is ready. We are only waiting for the subway at Agacaim to be completed. We will open the bypass at least 15 days before Christmas, as we expect the work on the subway to be completed within a month. Sources said that the delay has been caused as the local MLA wanted a subway traversing the highway to be completed, before the bypass was thrown open to traffic. The subway work should take another month to complete. This project has seen inordinate delay and a lot of double work. The land for the road was acquired around 13 years ago and presently the width of the road is maintained at 20 metres, and this will be later increased to 45 metres, which is the minimum required, for a national highway according to the highway rules. Churchill said: Ready by 20th Dec.2009 H dtd 28/10/09 The PWD Minister Churchill Alemao today blamed the previous minister for the delay in the completion of the Agassaim bypass, which he said would now be ready by December 20. The work on the 3.9 kilometers stretch of Agassaim bypass, linking Sirdona to Agassaim, started way back in July 2007 and was supposed to be completed in a year but for some reasons or the other has been delayed. “The previous minister is to be blamed for the delay as there was no planning when the project started in 2007, causing a lot of confusion,” Churchill told reporters, after inspecting the work at the site. Substantiating his claim, Churchill said the earlier minister had not planned a overpass near Agassaim church, resulting in protests from the Church and the residents. Churchill also blamed the protests against the hill-cutting for the delay. Churchill also asked the contractor Delcon Engineering Pvt Ltd to complete the work by December 20, paving way for its inauguration. “The project started in July 2007 while Churchill took over the portfolio in August 2007, joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] George W. Bush
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:24:44 -0800 (PST) From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca If anything, George Bush (43) also taught the world the value of a parliamentary democracy. With a parliamentary democracy, as soon as a leader loses the confidence of the MP's, he is gone. With American style democracy, the most un-popular President stays on until he completes his term in office. This allows, as George Bush did, for a clueless leader to continue ruining the economy. Mario observes: Here we see Mervyn imply that the US president runs the US economy, a popular canard by misinformed foreigners who hate President Bush for liberating 50 million Muslims and keeping America safe after 9/11. A US President doesn't run anything on his own, except foreign policy where he is then subject to budgetary restraints by the Legislature. A US President can propose and veto and try and use persuasion and influence, but he is subject to votes by the Legislature which can overrule him. This is why Barack Obama's most radical ideas have been bottled up in the legislature, even though his own party has an overwhelming majority. Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:54:09 -0500 From: manuel tavares duk...@bell.net Mario is a true conservative stooge and will do all in his power to defend President George W. Bush even to the extent of laying his unpopularity upon the Left Wing media. Why did not the Right wing media even try to correct your so called distortions by the left wing about Mr. Bush. Is it because all that the so called Left wing media published about Bush was absolutely true? Mario responds: Manuel seems to be either seriously misinformed or a true left wing stooge who is doing everything in his power to distort the truth about President Bush as we have already seen. The mainstream media in the US is dominated by the left wing. In one study 89% of the reporters who cover the central government in Washington, DC, admitted voting for the Democrat party. Only Fox News and talk radio swim against this unending biased tsunami from the left. Manuel wrote: Mario's response About Bush LIBERATING the Muslims from Tyranny What have they got in Exchange? Mario responds: These countries were not liberated to get anything in exchange. Manuel wrote: Countries which are divided and ethnically split with one faction fighting another and carnage far above those attributable to Sadam or the Taliban besides the destruction and ruin of the whole infrastructure. Is this the type of LIBERATION Mario is talking about.? If so, then the Iraqis were better off under the Tyrant Sadam, and the Afghans were better off under the Taliban. Mario responds: In Iraq some 300,000 victims of Saddam Hussein were found buried in mass graves, in addition to the thousands of Shia and Sunni he killed with chemical WMDs which resulted in the no-fly zones being set up by the UN. Since Saddam was deposed most of the deaths have been caused by sectarian Muslim radicals, while the coalition has been helping the Iraqi government to STOP the violence. We can also see that Manuel has no sympathy for the victims of tyrants or for their freedom and democracy. So he blames the liberators for the sectarian violence being committed by the radicals who also have no sympathy for freedom and democracy. Manuel wrote: The only good that has come is the emancipation of women. Mario observes: There would be no emancipation of women if Manuel's opposition to the liberation had prevailed. It is George Bush who gets the credit for this, not those who opposed him every step of the way. Manuel wrote: Mario tries to condone the invasion of Iraq by quoting UN Resolutions on the assumption that Sadam had WMD's which Sadam Denied and after the invasion, NO WDM's have been found. Mario responds: Since we know Iraq had WMDs and were unable to account for them, thus violating 17 UN resolutions over 12 years, such claims that there were no WMDs just because they were not found make no sense. The chemical and biological WMDs that Iraq had did not take up much volume and could be easily hidden in a vast country like Iraq. If Manuel wants to make the case that Iraq had no WMDs he needs to tell what happened to them - with facts, not speculation. Manuel wrote: All available documents prove that Sadam had no ties to Al Qaeda yet Bush constantly referred to such ties. He had yet to prove this. It was only after the invasion of Iraq that Al Qaeda gained a footing in Iraq. Mario responds: There was no working relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda, but there certainly were ties. For example, Al Qaeda subsidiary Ansar al Islam had training camps in Iraq and Al Qaeda leader Abu Musab al Zarkawi was given sanctuary and medical treatment in Iraq. Manuel wrote: Bush only invaded Iraq to show how powerful he was he did not care for the Iraqi people. He did not even have an exit strategy. That's how rational he was.
Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans
They say, whether elphants fight or make love, the grass beneath gets trampled. Goans were like the grass, I think, trying to make the best deal of whichever side of a global conflict (they probably didn't understand) they got caught on. In Yvonne Vaz-Ezdani's book, most of the contributors actually returned from Burma to British India or Portuguese Goa after the Japanese invasion of that country in 1941-2. But a handful actually stayed on, and write about their experiences and building bridges with the Japanese! Interestingly, there were Goans studying ophthalmology and other sciences (mainly) in the Berlin of the 1920s! I think Dr Gama Pinto is one such example. I do not believe World War II was our war, despite all the rhetoric about the fight against Nazism and what not. It still seems to me to be a ruthless scramble for colonies between a Britain that had an unfair share at that time and a Germany that felt badly left out (despite its technological and scientific prowess). And a violent struggle for economic clout in a changing world. -- FN 2009/11/12 Michael Ali mikeal...@aol.com: Dear FN, A very good question.I too am now wondering if any Goans did fight for the Axis powers. Would someone enlighten us. -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism
Re: [Goanet] Human Pollution
Tony - Live and let live, we can do better. If you think about it, Mario does not play Good Shepherd ! eric. From: Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com To: Goa's Premiere Mailing List, Estd 1994 goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 1:25:06 PM Subject: [Goanet] Human Pollution M. Gouvei Was your friend smoking or drinking something illegal at the time?:-)) Me: What makes you think that? Please elaborate. M.G: Your friend seems to be a Goan Scrooge, with no sympathy or generosity towards hardworking laborers and other service providers. Me: So be it. You have a problem with his way of thinking? Has he asked you to be his disciple and follow him? M.G. Tell him wages and prices equalize demand and supply. Me: And so now you have metamorphosed into an econmics professor. Please put your economic tinkering to better use. The US of A which is deep in recession needs your pseudo skills. With a lit bitta luck, it might improve! M.G.: No wonder they are pleased to see NRI's when we come:-)) Me: You must be kidding. I as a local (and I assure there are droves of others), would welcome you not only with a black flag, but a whole black banner which runs across the street. :-P And what is more, to show my admiration, I would garland you with a string of discarded chappals! -- o . . o o_.__' Cheers! \~/ \ / '-.-' Tony de Sa | M: +91 9975 162 897 _|_ Ph: +91 832 2470 148 `` tonyd...@gmail.com W. Somerset Maugham: I always find it more difficult to say the things I mean than the things I don't. .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:
Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans
--- On Fri, 11/13/09, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: I do not believe World War II was our war, despite all the rhetoric about the fight against Nazism and what not. It still seems to me to be a ruthless scramble for colonies between a Britain that had an unfair share at that time and a Germany that felt badly left out (despite its technological and scientific prowess). And a violent struggle for economic clout in a changing world. -- FN This is an amazing revision of history. The fight against Nazism in scare quotes was only rhetoric? Does Noronha deny the holocaust as well? Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] A Goan lady intelligence officer for the CIA? Out in the cold: Intel agent says U.S. 'betrayed' her
Out in the cold: Intel agent says U.S. 'betrayed' her November 10, 2009 - 3:31pm Sabrina De Sousa is dismayed at the way the U.S. handled the situation. J.J. Green, wtop.com WASHINGTON - Sabrina De Sousa's job in 2003 as a State Department officer in the political/military section of Milan, Italy was to provide Washington with the ground truth. What's ground truth? It could be the economic situation of the country, how the country views us (the United States) or it could be an incident that happened on any given day. Our job is to report that information back to Washington, she says. But it was an event that took place on one of those any given days that resulted in her conviction in absentia along with 22 U.S. State Department, Central Intelligence Agency and military officers on kidnapping charges by the Italian government on Nov. 4, 2009. That event led to the unraveling of her life, and De Sousa charges the U.S. government turned its back on her. I feel dismayed at the way this whole thing has been handled. It didn't need to get to this point. I'm an American citizen and I feel I've been betrayed by the government, she says. According to the Italian judiciary, it all began on Feb. 17, 2003 as Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr, also known as Abu Omar, was abducted by CIA officers as he was walking to his mosque in Milan for noon prayers. He was suspected of being one of Italy's most dangerous terrorists and viewed as a potential threat to the U.S. After the abduction, court documents say he was later transported to a prison in Egypt, where over a four-year period he was allegedly tortured. De Sousa was one of 26 U.S. agents and seven Italian agents accused of planning and carrying out the operation known as an extraordinary rendition. But De Sousa says that's impossible. She says she was 300 miles away skiing with her child at the time of the rendition. If, as has been alleged, I was involved in planning it and I was this big shot they claim I was, based on interviews with certain Italian officials, then I would have to have been around there to execute something like this. If you look at the court order that showed what the prosecutor presented, there were all actions which were bad judgment on the part of several officers in terms of they what they said about me, e-mails (they sent) giving out my phone number to individuals whom I don't know. That is what the prosecutor put together to indict me. The bad judgment she refers to was Bob Lady's, a State Department colleague in Milan. My supervisor, the head of the political military section, he had made comments to officers in the Italian government, De Sousa says. Lady, the former CIA Station Chief in Milan, was among those convicted. Omar was eventually released in 2007. No evidence of any aggression against the U.S. was ever found. When the guilty verdicts came down, a silent ripple coursed through the intelligence community. When this administration's goal is to reach out and partner up and all that, and you throw their own officers under the bus, what's the perception of everyone in the world? They're going to see some very vulnerable officers sitting in the different missions in the world knowing that friend and foe can indict them anytime they want on whatever charge they want because there's a real possibility the U.S. will do absolutely nothing about it. This country just looks very bad, De Sousa says. The CIA has not commented on any of the allegations surrounding Abu Omar, says CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano. That said, it would be wrong for anyone to suggest that this agency doesn't support its people. Intelligence operations, by definition, involve risk. If we left our officers out on their own when things got tough, the CIA wouldn't have lasted two years, let alone 62. Organizations like this run on trust and confidence. The situation also may throw a wrench into the international political machine. It is virtually unprecedented that a foreign power, and particularly a close ally, would pursue criminal charges against acknowledged U.S. diplomats, and even rarer that the U.S. government would allow it to happen once underway, says De Sousa's U.S. attorney Mark Zaid. To be sure, enemy powers have targeted our diplomats, but even in the worst case scenario the individual would simply be declared persona non grata and leave the country. That this rendition prosecution even finished reflects a fundamental failure of a recognized system, he says. De Sousa says it all could have been avoided had the U.S. confronted the situation head on in the beginning. She says members of the Senate and the U.S. House of Representatives refused to help her or her fellow officers. We started to talk to the Senators(Dianne) Feinstein, and (Jay) Rockefeller and from the House (Pete) Hoekstra and (Silvestre) Reyes. We sent numerous letters up to the Hill, also (former) Attorney General Michael Mukase, the DNI's office, General Hayden (former
[Goanet] re Thank you JoeGoaUk.
Thank you Joe for all videos that you put on the net...be it fest...tiatr..or moron... Now... here is something for Nuvemkars..did you know that: Nuemkar uxear kansou kaddunk matien purlole http://edskantaram.blogspot.com/search/label/Song%20-%20Add%20Nanvam Nuvemkars were called UXEAR...cause they were able to dig out the KANSOU which were hidden under the mud.do you know why it was said ? I'm sure there is something behind this... Another interesting puzzle that JoeGoaUK solved last night was about Cansalkars It is said that... Cansallkar chor – neidadik xet chortale or as Joe put its Cansalechi neidade Choramchi neidade...and he goes on to explain as he heard from one of his friends mother... In Cansaulim they celebrate Neidade 'Konnsamchem fest' on 5th Aug. which is too early for Konnsamso a day before the feast they would rob the konnsam from another village which has Konnsam and they would make two buncheds and plant at their traditional place. The next morning the priest would cut the konnsam and bless it for the Konnsachem fest... ..not sure if they still do it I dont mean to offend any of the villagers but this is what was lpassed on by our ancestors and confirmed by some Cansalkars. Dev borem Korum Edward Verdes On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:12 AM, rosarioabel fernandes wrote I was really missing the feast as many relatives had come over to our place. But seeing video cliping of the feast fair Of Mae dos Pobres feast in Nuvem On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Carvalho wrote: For bringing us the video of the Mae Dos Pobros feast. For over 20 years I have missed this feast
[Goanet] Goa news for November 13, 2009
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa festival features 200 films - Hollywood Reporter inema-to-take-bollywood-by-storm_100273301.htmlusg=AFQjCNHPYGLzhQLjlTTgoAjkHRX-ZPkl2wT20 cinema to take Bollywood by storm! http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/awards/news/e3ia59bfc00cf09b10b6dea87812644f124usg=AFQjCNGZ3zfIsRtUIXFPW3wKeytPMG7dPA *** Sigh of relief as cyclone spares Goa - Herald Publications rawlers-still-missing-in-Goa-after--Phyan-usg=AFQjCNH_y7GaoPsdACzRMlGhQVkFXwKttg10 trawlers still missing in Goa after 'Phyan' http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=29837cid=10usg=AFQjCNE3u6SAGYWXjv_XT_zlPA6MtdL_EQ *** Gowariker's Khelein Hum Jee Jaan Sey takes off - Oneindia _gCbum9DLgOO6CtngUGmKQ'Khelein Hum Jee Jaan Sey' starts rolling http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://entertainment.oneindia.in/bollywood/news/2009/khelein-hum-jee-sey-mahurat-09.htmlusg=AFQjCNFXlEj8d4nTtJvOcqCFAI38hXzKUg *** Engineer held in Goa blast case - Hindustan Times ing Hindu group Sanatan Sanstha (SS) member, an electronic engineer, for the Diwali eve blast in Goa, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Engineer-held-in-Goa-blast-case/H1-Article1-475383.aspxusg=AFQjCNExH7EzZwodN7eqLr_5RzsrJLkKYg *** Cyclonic storm 'Phyan' to weaken in six hours - Press Trust of India tandard.com/india/news/mumbai-edu-institutions-offices-asked-to-shut-down/78026/onusg=AFQjCNG66JPpxSNCfF-P7-g-c9CoijLv2wMumbai edu institutions, offices asked to shut http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ptinews.com/news/372633_Cyclonic-storm--Phyan--to-weaken-in-six-hoursusg=AFQjCNGMrx1Mvi_hfjjVZHY7wXYGfGI1CA *** As Goa gears up to welcome tourists, police admits drug sale - Daily News Analysis rade-may-increase-during-tourist-season-goa-police_100272991.htmlusg=AFQjCNEDGfsPcdWLlJpDF07Cmvn5mPeU6QDrug trade may increase during tourist season: Goa police http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_as-goa-gears-up-to-welcome-tourists-police-admits-drug-sale_1310094usg=AFQjCNGBzeeeXCYq0wMYmnjnBgmoVeLeqA *** Goa Kissed by Cyclonic Wind Storm... - Daijiworld.com ijiworld.comAccording to the North Goa Collector Mihir Vardhan not much damaged was reported except for few houses being damaged in the Coastal areas of North Goa and a ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=68198n_tit=Goa+Kissed+by+Cyclonic+Wind+Storm...usg=AFQjCNFFJhsbt_bjC6acr-PBei5oBxuy3g *** Second day's play of Goa-Assam match washed out - Press Trust of India ess Trust of IndiaMargao, Nov 11 (PTI) Unseasonal downpour continued to play spoilsport as the second day's play of a Ranji Trophy Plate League Group A match between Goa and ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ptinews.com/news/371913_Second-day-s-play-of-Goa-Assam-match-washed-outusg=AFQjCNGS6tj83Tx5mBiTfEVyB4fvGgVsnw *** Drugs rife in India's Goa despite crackdown - Independent dependentTwo foreign tourists walk down to the shore at Anjuna Beach in the Indian resort state of Goa. In tow is a local man, persistently offering them a menu of ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/drugs-rife-in-indias-goa-despite-crackdown-1818467.htmlusg=AFQjCNFNb9kkvIbibb1MGVLkxuS50Exqaw *** Jobs for NRGs, Konkani, figure at Goan meet - Times of India esident Goans who want to set up ventures in Goa, discussions on the promotion of Konkani and an open house ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Jobs-for-NRGs-Konkani-figure-at-Goan-meet/articleshow/5217698.cmsusg=AFQjCNEUeBmcuoaLkQ79Nyc2ceO8SdyeFw Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans
--- On Thu, 11/12/09, Michael Ali mikeal...@aol.com wrote: A very good question.I too am now wondering if any Goans did fight for the Axis powers. Would someone enlighten us. Regards, Mike - Hi Mike, I'm not sure if any Goan served on the Axis side, this would depend I think on Goan migration to Axis countries. I do know that during the course of the War, the then British Counsel stationed in Goa, kept close watch on a one particular Goan who kept close company with the Germany counsel also stationed in Goa. Now those two might have just been friends and nothing more to it other than friendship. There were a few German sailors or were they Italian, I can't remember exactly, who took refuge in Goa after their ships had been torpedoed. The majority of the Goans were very pro-Allied forces and infact one Goan had lit up his house with lights and everytime there was a Allied victory he would flash his lights all night long. All this is my own research, so you're not likely to be able to google it I'm afraid. :-)) Take care, selma
[Goanet] Fw: GOA FEST 2009 TAKES OFF ON A HIGH NOTE IN NEW DELHI
Goemkars ! I share a post from Ms Suman Kurade , President of Goenkarachcho Ekvot , Delhi , India a member of the World Alliance of Goan Associations. Congratulations to the President and the organising committee for putting up a grand show in Delhi , India. rene barreto WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS Together we are building a better GOAN WORLD : GOANWORLD http://worldgoan.blogspot.com/ - Forwarded Message From: Suman su...@kurade.com To: rene barreto goan...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 7:20:45 AM Subject: Goa Festival 2009 Shri Rene Barreto, Sending along with the brief report of the Goa Festival 2009 along with the some photographs. Regards, Suman Kurade GOA FEST 2009 TAKES OFF ON A HIGH NOTE IN NEW DELHI http://community.webshots.com/album/575507712DwpHbh GOA SADAN, a colonial style white mansion on Amrita Shergill Marg was transformed into a “Feira” of sorts, which the sights and smells of Goa. Driving past, one cannot avoid the sound of Goan Music and Reverie amidst fairy lights, which is advertisement enough for anyone looking for some entertainment of another kind. And so GOA FEST 2009 took off to a colourful start on Friday, 6th November 2009 at 6 p.m. This three day, annual festival organized by “Goenkarancho Ekvot” an association of Goans in Delhi and the NCR in association with Department of Tourism, Government of Goa is a festival all Goans in these parts, as well as, Delhiites, Expatriates and Tourists who have come to love Goa and everything Goan look forward to eagerly Hon’ble Justice V.S. Sirpurkar, Judge Supreme Court of India inaugurated the Goa Fest 2009 and Shri Digambar Kamat Hon’ble Chief Minister of Goa presided over the function. Gracing the occasion were important guests Shri Shripad Naik Lok Sabha MP, Rajya Sabha Member, Shri Shantaram Naik and Shri Sanjay Kumar Srivastava, Chief Secretary Goa. The Guests were introduced in turn and welcomed with floral bouquets by members of the committee. Mrs. Suman Kurade, Chairperson of Goenkarancho Ekvot, welcomed the guests and all present. She gave a brief of the associations activities in Delhi and the listed out the various efforts carried out in order to keep the Goan Culture alive in Delhi and the NCR. She also pleaded with the Chief Minister to ensure that the New Goa Sadan be readied soon so that Goans visiting New Delhi are not put through any inconvenience in locating lodgings The Chief Guest Hon’ble Justice V.S. Sirpurkar in turn gave, very personal and emotional experiences of being associated with Goa and its inimitable culture. He, recounted the several occasions he visited Goa, and praised Goa for its Uniform Civil Code which grants equality to both men and women and that is something other States should take example from. Shri Digambar Kamat appreciated the great work being done by Mrs. Kurade who with her tremendous dedication to keeping the organisation and culture alive despite all odds has achieved a great deal of support and respect from the Goans. He specially mentioned, that he had taken time off for this evening, only because he could not say no to someone so special! Shri Shripad Naik M.P.(L.S), Shri Shantaram Naik M.P. (R.S) and Shri Sanjay Srivastava gave their experiences of living in Goa and the efforts that were being made to make it a world class tourist destination. Two Goan students Shri Rohan Sharma And Shri Mayank Dias, who have done academically very well in their Board examinations were honored and given a certificate each by the Chief Guests. Father Bento Rodrigues, Principal, Fr. Agnels School then gave the vote of thanksThe festival was declared open. The guests and the crowd were treated to some Goan and Portuguese Folk Dances and Goan Music by a live Goan Band. But the main attraction as always was the food on offer – Sorpotel, Xacuti, Fish Curry, and delicious snacks to be washed down my our trademark Feni! This festival attracted huge crowds during the weekend.
[Goanet] Congratulations from The Mumbai Goan Association
Dear Mario, A hearty Congratulations to you on being honoured with the 'Orden de Isabel La Catolica' in recognition for the work you have done in strengthening ties between India and Spain. It gives greater pleasure that you were once a Mumbaikar now settled in Goa. Kind Regards, ASHLEY D'SILVA Gen Secretary Mumbai Goan Association Affiliated to the 'World Alliance of Goan Associations'
[Goanet] Human Pollution
Mario wrote: Gentle Goan nature? Was your friend smoking or drinking something illegal at the time?:-)) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:55:06 +0530 From: Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com What makes you think that? Please elaborate. Mario elaborates: If you had not truncated what I wrote you would have seen that your friend referred to the gentle nature of Goans being somehow corrupted, which I thought was really funny. This is the same guy who resented Goan workers and service providers being fairly paid Mario previously wrote: Your friend seems to be a Goan Scrooge, with no sympathy or generosity towards hardworking laborers and other service providers. Tony responds irritably: So be it. You have a problem with his way of thinking? Has he asked you to be his disciple and follow him? Mario responds: Your friend the Scrooge hasn't asked me anything. I don't even know who he is. Yes, I have a problem with his notion that working people and service providers in Goa are being overpaid because of NRIs and foreigners. They are paid what they are worth to us. Mario previously wrote: Tell him wages and prices equalize demand and supply. Tony wrote: And so now you have metamorphosed into an econmics professor. Please put your economic tinkering to better use. The US of A which is deep in recession needs your pseudo skills. With a lit bitta luck, it might improve! Mario responds: One doesn't have to be an economics professor to know the most basic fundamentals of economics. The US in the middle of a recession still has a far better quality of life than India at its best - as JoeGoaUK's pictures constantly remind us. Unfortunately, it will not improve much until we send President Hussein back home to Chicago. BTW, he clearly needs some lessons in the fundamentals of economics and life in general, which he did not learn as a community agitator. No wonder he has had his college transcripts sealed like state secrets while he blithely discloses real state secrets of how we got information from the jihadis who tried to kill us. Mario previously wrote: No wonder they are pleased to see NRI's when we come:-)) Tony wrote: You must be kidding. I as a local (and I assure there are droves of others), would welcome you not only with a black flag, but a whole black banner which runs across the street. :-P And what is more, to show my admiration, I would garland you with a string of discarded chappals! Mario responds: No, I'm not kidding. Don't let the smiley face fool you. Apparently you and your friend the Scrooge are birds of a feather and share the same bilious disposition, instead of being happy that some Goans are making more money from visitors to Goa. The ones who are happy to see us are the workers and shopkeepers and restaurant owners whom you and he think are overpaid.
[Goanet] Chuck Konnachi - Konkani Tiatro in Toronto
O Portugues foi mas a nossa lingua Konkani esta Viva O Konkani, Viva O Goa CHUK KONNACHI (Review and Interview with Director Marshal Fernandes) October 24th, 2009; History was created at Michael Power High School by Producer Sandra Menezes, Director Marshal Fernandes and their entire cast and crew of the Konkani Tiatro CHUK KONNACHI. I have attended Konkani Tiatros in Toronto for the past several years and I must say nothing ever came close to this fantastic and extravagant performance. My hats off to Sandra Menezes and Marshal Fernandes for giving the Goans of Toronto something to remember for years to come; Sandra has produced this sold out event and Marshal has casted the best cast ever and directed this play at its best. I had nothing but praises and compliments to the team of Chuk Konnachi. My personal review begins when I reached Michael Power School at 1:50 p.m. After a few rounds in the parking lot I managed to find a spot and was surprised to see a full parking lot. I entered the school at 2:05 p.m. and was surprised again to see the crowed hallway. People were lining up to enter, some to grab goodies given by Kevin D'Souza (Platinum Sponsor) and some to view the Konkani Song Book by Francis Rodrigues. Ultimately all present were soon to be witnessing the best drama ever staged in Toronto. Some people were looking for tickets, but in vain. This show was apparently sold out weeks before October 24th. The hall management was smooth and superb, only to find out that Silviano Barbosa, Roliffe D'Souza and their team was responsible for this efficiency. Once seated in the auditorium, it was 2:20 p.m. and I expected the show to commence at least at 3:00 p.m. To my pleasant surprise, Dr. Lucina Pinto came on the stage at 2:30 p.m. sharp to render the national anthem O'Canada in Konkani, What a delight! I was given to understand that this anthem was translated by the director, Marshal Fernandes - another great feat. Soon after the national anthem, Joe Vaz, Rhio Gracias and Marshal Fernandes sang one of the best composed songs, M.Boyer to whom this Tiatro was tributed and the song was composed by Marshal Fernandes. From then on there was no looking back; the play went on with beautiful ear pleasing songs. The timing and the flow of the scenes were impeccable. There was no time for boredom nor to think of what was coming up next. It was smooth sailing throughout the Tiatro. I cannot pick nor point any single individual that did not perform at his/her best, and for that performance, the audience was pleased, satisfied and went home with a memory that will last for years to come. The stage sets were so simple, yet brought out the reality of homes in Goa and was a pleasant sight to the eyes of the viewers. I believe this credit goes to the stage manager, A.C. Pereira and his team. A.C. also received a Dedicated Contribution award for his past work contributed to the Konkani stage; a well deserved one. Before I get into the review of the play, I'd like to comment on the songs which were so beautiful and pleasing that I must congratulate all the singers who did a wonderful job. This is the first time I have ever heard so many locally composed songs, I can see that talent is in abundance in Toronto and I thank the composers for bringing their talent on stage. I would like to recognize these individuals as it takes a lot of talent and sacrifice to compose songs and train individuals to perform them on stage. O'Canada - Composed by Marshal Fernandes, performed by Dr. Luicna Pinto M.Boyer - Composed by Marshal Fernandes, performed by Joe Vaz, Rhio Gracias and Marshal Fernandes Bhagientlem Full - Composed by Chris Gomes, performed by Hazel Jacob and Chris Gomes UK- Canada - Goa - Composed by Jack Fernandes, performed by Tony D'Silva, Olavio DaCosta and Jack Fernandes Amche Musician - Composed by Marshal Fernandes, performed by Joe Vaz Fuddlem Xincop - Composed by Chris Gomes, performed by Clema Fernandes and Chris Gomes Jinga Mummy - Hit Song of the evening - Composed by Marshal Fernandes, performed by Rhiza Gracias and Sylda Gracias Hot Pants - Composed by Jack Fernandes, performed by Jack Fernandes Ami Goeankar - Closing Chorus - Composed by Marshal Fernandes, performed by Joe Vaz, Rhia Gracis, Olav Da Costa, Yolanda Gracias, Hazel Jacob, Tony D'Silva, Sandra Menezes and Marshal Fernandes Mog Mog Mog (Canto) - Composed by Marshal Fernandes, performed by Sandra Menezes and Olavio DaCosta Other hit songs included: Mobile - Olympio Fernandes Johnny Zai - Hazel Jacob Football - Olympio Fernandes and Ruth Kumar Mog Mozo Kortai - Auggie Pereira Putachem Cazar - Staphanie Manezes, Rhio Gracias, Sandra Menezes and Marshal Fernandes Tribute to Lorna Performed by the melodious Ruth Kumar Congratulations! to all composers and singers for a job well done and displaying a talent one would only think of finding in Goa - KUDOS!
[Goanet] Goa news for November 14, 2009
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Six trawlers, 50 Goan fishermen missing in cyclone - Thaindian.com irst-cyclonic-storm-to-reach-Mumbai-in-43-years/articleshow/5220913.cmsusg=AFQjCNFrPNOBOzpWSEAe0WL4BEkZGx6-hgPhyan, first cyclonic storm to reach Mumbai in 43 years http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/six-trawlers-50-goan-fishermen-missing-in-cyclone_100273951.htmlusg=AFQjCNHOTkr7r0TgqIDKuvOsC1SPfYPSCw *** When Phyan left them to face an ordeal at sea - Herald Publications ishermen-still-missing-after-cyclone-phyan-goa-chief-minister_100274210.htmlusg=AFQjCNEUQHHkmb46Ba1wSS4jt6Yyg_pPpQ68 fishermen still missing after Cyclone Phyan: Goa chief minister http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=29911cid=2usg=AFQjCNGc-d2h97bIVpRPOyWd8OsuppKXxA *** Sanatan Sanstha is threat to nation: Goa home minister - Hindustan Times ve blast in Goa, is a threat to the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/goa/Sanatan-Sanstha-is-threat-to-nation-Goa-home-minister/Article1-475918.aspxusg=AFQjCNFLdYjU7wO9unVxwzp6EKD4sZCM6A *** Over 750 Tamil Nadu, Goa fishermen feared drowned - Daily News Analysis adu-government-assures-safety-of-fishermen_100274487.htmlusg=AFQjCNFOZhV9xon_myRr07NaGoi_LVCS5wTamil Nadu government assures safety of fishermen http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_over-750-tamil-nadu-goa-fishermen-feared-drowned_1311360usg=AFQjCNFfTJzeTQXT4vIWuJO184kmqfTXpA *** UK cautions citizens on travel to Goa - Times of India ffice-advises-against-travel-to-goa-5634552.htmlusg=AFQjCNGjyGWT4NqyVxjqYTWZ4J6i_Yo_rwForeign Office advises against travel to Goa http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/UK-cautions-citizens-on-travel-to-Goa/articleshow/5224405.cmsusg=AFQjCNGC4uw-Wbx5pisPS2Bdy-HY5O24aQ *** Goa-Assam match ends in tame draw - Press Trust of India ssam_share_one_point_each_in_drawn_Ranji_tie__N30069.htmlusg=AFQjCNGn51YLqLeHwgH0c1bYlzprtfYQsgGoa-Assam share one point each in drawn Ranji tie http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ptinews.com/news/376101_Goa-Assam-match-ends-in-tame-drawusg=AFQjCNGzcMPf6Q10BZ7ttJ5LXJ7lmEE4Ag *** Four senior Goa cops create stir aboard offshore casino - Thaindian.com aindian.comPanaji, Nov 13 (IANS) The Goa police department was left red faced after four Superintendents of Police (SP) and three other senior police officials created ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/four-senior-goa-cops-create-stir-aboard-offshore-casino_100274473.htmlusg=AFQjCNGaXYIDWX7HneWmItN5Jcmuid-MKA *** Four More Players Called To The National Camp In Goa - Goal.com 3 side starting from the 15th of this month. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/2696/indian-national-team/2009/11/13/1622423/four-more-players-called-to-the-national-camps-in-goausg=AFQjCNFs7MSJDpLbSeHgOldRlTwZ4VE-KQ *** Goa security drive: 32 vital installations mapped - Times of India mes of IndiaMARGAO: With a heightened security alert this year and caution from the Centre to all states,Goa too is gearing up to cordon major installations by drawing ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-security-drive-32-vital-installations-mapped/articleshow/5224415.cmsusg=AFQjCNELeYiGFBSxvUJ5DrXsQP6H2Zz_dw *** Goa EDC to provide financial aid against immovable property - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: For the first time, the Goa Economic Development corporation (EDC) will extend financial assistance against the mortgage of immovable property. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-EDC-to-provide-financial-aid-against-immovable-property/articleshow/5224401.cmsusg=AFQjCNHeH8Ha8_K97qWOUML_nzdrUptkXQ Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Nikita D'Costa's Doodle - Thank you
Dear Goanetters, Savia and myself would like to thank each one of you for the response shown in voting and commenting on Nikita's doodle from Goa. The tally did not add up for Nikita and the deserving winner was Puru Pratap Singh which was announced on November 12, 2009 at the Google Awards ceremony in Delhi. Nikita finished a close second but she had a fantastic experience specially meeting the original doodler Dennis Hwang and attending his workshop on doodle designing. Here are some of the top doodles that were in contention for the top place. Please view the slide show. http://www.livemint.com/2009/11/13165604/Slideshow-Doodling-for-Google.html?h=B Thanks once again for the wonderful response and support. Regards Plastino
[Goanet] Subject: Panic in Bicholim as leopard attacks dog
I wish the carnivorous wild beasts like leopard, tiger and others lived peacefully with the other 'good vegetarian animals' like they lived in the olden day 'ashrams’ among the Rishis!!. Alas, they are not grass eaters, unless they have stomach upset. (Has any one observed domestic cats or dogs eating grass any time? For them, grass is cure for the ailment). One more thing, I have also heard that these carnivorous animals kill only when they are hungry - they do not kill rampantly. When their stomach is full, they ignore an animal grazing nearby. They always economise and avoid waste. Probably they intrude human dwelling to attack domestic animals, because there is nothing in the forest that is worth eating and a hungry beast does not differentiate. These are beautiful and powerful animals (on or off the television screen) I hope the forest officials set traps for the intruders and leave them at safe places where they can find suitable prey with ease. Now we can see the majestic pea-cocks with their colourful tail feathers fanned out and dance as they try to attract the attention of the pea-hen, and so many other birds, that I thought were extinct, because now the rampant hunting of these birds has been disallowed. The cuckoo bird sings a melodious 'cuhoo' and responds to even human response!! Wonderful experience. So is the blind bat clutching the plantain flower bunch (bondi) to suck out the honey at dusk) and some colourful tiny birds eating the wild berries called 'bensam', the Kingfisher hunting an insect (they have adapted to this living as fish is hard to find), the parrots eating the peru 'guava' fruit. The crows, if one of their kind is caught in between electric cables and hanging in there, dead, we find their entire 'khandaan' gather around and cry 'kaa kaa' every day until the dead bird falls down eventually or removed. What a sincere mourning!! For a few special days each autumn, Point Pelee is a temporary home to thousands of migrating monarch butterflies. As soon as favourable conditions occur, they begin one of nature's greatest journeys by crossing Lake Erie (Canada). They cannot linger, for their destination is some 3000 km further south in the mountains of central Mexico! Why would this tiny insect make such a monumental journey? Check website: http://www.pc.gc.ca/eng/pn-np/on/pelee/natcul/natcul5.aspx I am yet to see a quail these days. We used to call them 'lovo' that dwelt among bushes, they moved very fast. But due to the increase of houses, the bush land has disappeared, depriving these beautiful and secretive birds of their natural habitat, and probably are extinct now., and so are the wild hens, some water birds that emerged during tilling time, the streams teaming with rock crabs, turtles and variety of fish, that we could catch by a simple trap that was placed where ever the water plunged down..and the ambot-theik curry and the hot boiled rice with some salted palponos (a variety of wild jack fruit, the size of divi-guzo (breadfruit) or mango, with fire roasted red chillis mixed and squeezed into delicious chutney or paste!! Wow!! Those were the days. Yet I had the opportunity to pluck and then get them cooked, the fragile flower like lily white mushrooms that bloom during certain time at certain place of our backyard. Though the dish was not as good as mother’s, yet enjoyed the rare delicacy. The fisher women visit our native house daily even to this day. If they happened to see a visitor (son, daughter), their price goes sky high and sure, mother makes them pay blaming that the price increase is because she saw the visitors and sure the fish would be bought with or without grumbling by mum. The saltwater river Muddosho (ladyfish) and the fatty Mullets (Shevto) with roce curry, was out of this world. Only poor bangda (mackerel) was fried in the backshouse, on woodfire (so that the pungent smell does not bother the foreign-born grandchildren playing video games in the main hall!!) MD
[Goanet] Konkani and Goans
Albert writes:- People in Goa (pardon me ) wants to be Englishman, hantin,,, bolsant . as the old saying goes.Many of our goans like to show off and so they speak English and many of our children like to learn French. But people outside India would prefer to speak konkani and keep their mother tongue alive and many goans all over the world have goans club or cultural clubs and they are actively active in konkani tiatros. Uk, Germany, US and many other places have vibrant people and active clubs and programmes. I had written a play Mummy maka vengent dor and I had sent it to one Greg Carvalho in England. They staged the show in three different places and when I got the DVD I was surprised that their pronounciation of konkani was superb better than some of us here and those when in Goa and whom I knew could not speak a word of konkani when they were here are now on the stage acting and singing beautiful solos and duets too. I felt they were better than the professionals .These are the people who have kept konkani alive because they must be using it when at home and at their meeting place as that is the only to identify goans. _ Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (14Nov09)
Reports say that Agriculture is on the Decline in Goa What is Flowering is the Conversion Culture among our Montris, MLAs, Bureaucrats... To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans
Ok, Folks. My fore-fathers moved to what is now Tanzania before the USA celebrated its 100th birthday. Tanganyika was then ruled by the Germans. When a German gentleman came to your business and requested you to 'support' the German war effort, the answer you gave was, Yes, Sir, in any way you want. There is a message somewhere in my archives of the Goan Institute, Dar-es-salaam sending birthday wishes to the Kaiser. There are, to say the least, some very interesting signatories on that message. Mervyn1650Lobo Those of you with some knowledge of WWI in E. Africa might remember the Konigsberg episode. British airplanes were assembled on Mafia Island and these searched for the German ship hiding in the Rufiji. Even in the late 1970's, there were Goan decendants living in Mafia and on the mainland opposite. --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Michael Ali mikeal...@aol.com wrote: A very good question.I too am now wondering if any Goans did fight for the Axis powers. Would someone enlighten us. Regards, Mike - Hi Mike, I'm not sure if any Goan served on the Axis side, this would depend I think on Goan migration to Axis countries. I do know that during the course of the War, the then British Counsel stationed in Goa, kept close watch on a one particular Goan who kept close company with the Germany counsel also stationed in Goa. Now those two might have just been friends and nothing more to it other than friendship. There were a few German sailors or were they Italian, I can't remember exactly, who took refuge in Goa after their ships had been torpedoed. The majority of the Goans were very pro-Allied forces and infact one Goan had lit up his house with lights and everytime there was a Allied victory he would flash his lights all night long. All this is my own research, so you're not likely to be able to google it I'm afraid. :-)) Take care, selma __ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans
--- On Fri, 11/13/09, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.comhttp://in.mc940.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: I do not believe World War II was our war, despite all the rhetoric about the fight against Nazism and what not. It still seems to me to be a ruthless scramble for colonies between a Britain that had an unfair share at that time and a Germany that felt badly left out (despite its technological and scientific prowess). And a violent struggle for economic clout in a changing world. -- FN To which Santosh Helekar commented: This is an amazing revision of history. The fight against Nazism in scare quotes was only rhetoric? Does Noronha deny the holocaust as well? I think that what FN is saying is not so far fetched unless one wishes to view the world in black and white terms as Santosh wishes to do. I'd recommend Amitav Ghosh's novel 'The Glass Palace' for a very nuanced reading of the issues involved and that includes the nature of colonialism; the motivations underlying the Second World War; the responses of different Indian to this war; and the nature of war itself. Augusto -- Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal, Moira, Bardez, Goa, India E pinto...@gmail.com or ypinto...@yahoo.co.in P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350
[Goanet] A graden, bandstand
The bust was brought down at night without any public knowledge in the early seventies. As usual gullible Goans raised no voice. It could be that Sinari was involved. Surely it had the hand of the Bandodcar government. BC From what I can gather, it was Prabhkar Sinari et al who, in the middle of the night, brought down the bust circa 1963.?Please correct me if I'm wrong.? As to limited recreation, perhaps the author of that article did not like a more sedate evening after the relatively hard day's work :-)? Shouts of Diar-Noich (Diario da Noite was the evening paper), Sort Sort - falean abertur, and sometimes Yea sonsarant sogleank kui!... mingled with the crows' chorus among the trees when the band wasn't in attendance ... Ah! those were the days!?
[Goanet] Congratulations Frederick on the publication of your book, Another Goa
Hello Frederick, From the beautiful cover of your book, one can easily deduce that you are going to present the reader with a picture of Goa that is completely different than the expected commercial tourist-appealing image of Goa. The cute little smiling boy with a motor-cycle tire around his neck with a beautiful green rice field and coconut plantation in the background is truly nostalgic of Another Goa. I wish you all the best in your latest endeavour and I hope it brings you a well-deserved outstanding success. Cheers Silviano Barbosa Toronto, Canada _ Ready. Set. Get a great deal on Windows 7. See fantastic deals on Windows 7 now http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691818
[Goanet] Brazilian bug hits Goans politicians and football adminstrators
Brazil are the iconic team of international football and the World Cup 2010 edition is some seven months away. There is no better way to watch fine vintage football stuff then those gold coloured shirt moving in symphony in a lethal counter-attacking unit. That’s precisely what some 50,000 thousand spectators will be watching from the stands of Khalifa Stadium on Saturday, 8.00PM local time. Football crazy Goans have been addictive to the Brazilian style of football. The signature style of the South Americans draws people from their siestas, making them travel miles to see their favourite team in action. Call it infatuation or love, but the fact is some die-hard fans and football administrators from Goa are in Doha, the capital city of Qatar, to watch Brazil play a depleted England side in action, hits by injuries. Apart from football, Goa and Brazil have one common factor- both were former Portuguese colonies, and football was introduced in both the places by the colonial rulers. Heading the list is All India Football Federation Secretary Alberto Colaco, who flew this morning into Doha, while Goa football Association Secretary Savio Messais and two others flew from Goa on Friday evening. A few prominent Goans businessman from the Candolim-Calngute coastal belt, have also landed in Doha to watch the football action taking advantage of the direct flights introduced by Qatar Airways between Doha and Goa and also the roundabout Goa-Sharjah-Doha flight of Air Arabia. If football fans are in Doha, can the Goan politicians be far away. Certainly not, Calangute MLA and EDC Chairman Angelo Fernandes who was recently in Oman for the Global Goan convention and then flew to London for the Tourism Mart is also in Doha, flying straight from London. Another Goan MLA Reginaldo Lourenco is also in Doha for the last three days, he was invited and attended a Konkani Musical show organized by Goan Cultural group in Goa held on Friday evening. According to his earlier travel plans the young MLA from Curtorim, who defeated his one-time mentor Francisco Sardinha in the assembly elections was set to take the Saturday flight back to Goa. But, hectic efforts are on now to change the travel plans as the Brazilian bug has also hit Lourenco. The 15-odd Konkani tiatrist group who were in Doha to perform at Konkani Cultural show had to reluctantly live Doha on a sad note having missed out on a once in a life time opportunity of watching Brazil-England live.
[Goanet] Turf Wars and Goa Inquisition
Hi Selma, Apologies are accepted. What ever happened to plain and simple: Saiba bogos. Chuk zallem? Your response shows a great finesse in getting the foot out of your mouth.:=)) Regards, GL -- Carvalho wrote: Gilbert has admitted that Goa was colonised. Gilbert my profound apologies. :-))
[Goanet] God and You
Albert writes:- The Jews were fanatics and so are we.We neither know our religion nor would like to learn it .The Bible tells us about Jesus. He came to tell the Jews then and to us now that strict rituals will not take us anywhere.God wants us to have liberal thoughts. In Catholic religion there are too many dos and don'ts. Once in church at the begining of elevation time many of us felt like kneeling. The priest announced Please stand so everyone except me stood up. We are so rigid with our prayers even. We cannot pray with our hearts open to God. We have to say the rigid rosary and the clergy will remind the faithfuls specially the ladies are trained by them to be faithful to their nonsense. It has to be ten hail Marys which sometimes we say like the parrots. Once when Fr.Emidio was the vicar at Parra Church I attended a funeral and was surprised that Fr.Emeidio was just reciting a prayer without a prayer book and was encouraging the faithful to do like wise and the whole prayer service in the cemetry took around half an hour because everyone started praying in their own language and this should be the prayer. While God wants us to read the Bible the church will come with Daily flash. The word of God is the food for our body and for our soul. We ought to remove our fanactism from our interior. Those who are with Christ are not against christ. Hence God has created the Christians, created the Hindus, and the Muslims and everyone. His heaven is for everyone who love Him and remain bonded with Him. God will not see whther you have received baptism or not. God will inspect your heart. Masses and Rosaries and Novenas will not serve you. To go to Heaven you need Witness. Every Judge gives verdict based on human witness. When you do to the least of my breathens you do it to me is the key word of our religion. How many people these days have become homeless and family less did any one bother about them ! or did we say Government has started a process for them let them do it. We Catholics are heartless people and have no right to enter the kingdom of heaven. Many are seen running from pillar to post to gain salvation when God is dwelling in our homes why search Him among the dead ? why do you pray before Lifeless gods ?not my words. Its in the bible. _ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop
Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans
--- On Fri, 11/13/09, augusto pinto pinto...@gmail.com wrote: I think that what FN is saying is not so far fetched unless one wishes to view the world in black and white terms as Santosh wishes to do. I'd recommend Amitav Ghosh's novel 'The Glass Palace' for a very nuanced reading of the issues involved and that includes the nature of colonialism; the motivations underlying the Second World War; the responses of different Indian to this war; and the nature of war itself. It is quite unusual for someone to claim that a work of fiction gives an accurate version of history. I have also never heard the charge of black and white being used against those who believe that the second world war was a just fight against Nazism. I have read a fair bit on the rise of Nazism, the history of the second world war, and the medical consequences of the Nazi ideology. I have spent a whole day in the Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC and visited historical sites where the Nazi atrocities, as well as the fight against Nazis took place in Eastern Europe. It is hard for me to imagine what sort of nuances about colonialism in a novel could convince someone that the fight against Nazism in scare quotes was mere rhetoric. It would be educational if Noronha or Augusto could describe in brief their version of history, and how they know that the claims made in a fictional novel are right. What should I do if someone told me to read the Da Vinci Code novel to find out about the nuances that justify that the claims of a world-wide conspiracy are not far-fetched? Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] Visual Highs « Get High Now
Hi Goanetters. I took a break from the net for a month. Here's something different! Get 'high' with 'sight sound' here. Con http://gethighnow.com/visual-highs/
Re: [Goanet] A Goan lady intelligence officer for the CIA? Out in the cold: Intel agent says U.S. 'betrayed' her
De Sousa, originally from Goa, on the west coast of India, says the one substantive response she got from Capitol Hill was some cold advice from a staffer to go back and get a job where you came from. - Folks, I appreciate the above response. What would have made it more enjoyable is a: go back and get a job where you came from, GHANTI. A most excellent response would be to also award the lady a shoe garland. Mervyn1650Lobo __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/
[Goanet] cops and casino
7 top cops spotted partying on off-shore casino HERALD REPORTER 7 top cops spotted partying on off-shore casino HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, NOV 13 Even as there is controversy surrounding the visit of the ministers to the casinos, seven top police officers were spotted partying on an off-shore casino. Interestingly, the officers’ visit to the casino comes at a time when there is controversy surrounding the case registered by the CID Crime Branch against Tourism Minister Francisco ‘Mickky’ Pacheco, who was caught on camera while gaming at a popular casino in South Goa. The officers were spotted when the press team was on board Casino Royale, for a press conference arranged by the Casino’s management. No sooner the officers saw the press team in the casino; they locked themselves into a small bar and did not come out till the press team had left. Enquiries at the casino revealed that the officers had not paid the entry fee and were given complimentary gaming chips. Casino Royale MD Narendra Punj when contacted refused to comment on the issue. When reporters asked SP Atmaram Deshpande, who is the PRO for Goa Police about the junket, he said he had no comment to make. Meanwhile, Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) spokesperson Govind Parvatkar told Herald the presence of top police officers in the casinos was “shameful”. “It shows the government has no control over its officers,” he said. The BJP has been consistently opposing casinos in River Mandovi. “We know black money as well as corruption money is going there,” Parvatkar said.
[Goanet] How Catholic Bishops Threw the Health Care Debate into Turmoil with Anti-Abortion Maneuve
On abortions from Hypocrisy Watch: Hypocrisy Watch: RNC Insurance Plan Has Covered Abortions for 18 Years http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/143936/hypocrisy_watch:_rnc_insurance_plan_has_covered_abortions_for_18_years/#more http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/143936/hypocrisy_watch:_rnc_insurance_plan_has_covered_abortions_for_18_years/#morevenantius j pinto Message: 5 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:54:41 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] How Catholic Bishops Threw the Health Care Debate intoTurmoil with Anti-Abortion Maneuver Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:04:30 -0500 From: Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com This piece will give people a sense of high intrigue and manipulation, and its not just the Catholic Bishops, but other horrendous parties in play here. And so it goes, with the power they have to dictate and alter peoples lives. Worth reading readers comments on the site at the bottom of the article. Nothing is easy, we all know that. Mario observes: (del) *From the exasperated tone of your comments and the adjectives you have used above, it looks like you support the notion that elective abortions should be supported and paid for by all Americans*. In the US the government has been prohibited from using federal funds to pay for abortions since the Hyde Amendment was passed in 1976. Why don't liberals who support abortion on demand form private fundraising organizations that would pay for abortions privately rather than muck up public policy and programs that include millions of Americans who oppose abortion? Furthermore, on the larger issue of altering people's lives on what objective evidence are you concluding that THIS government run health care plan will work efficiently and within projected budgets when every government run social program in US history, with the lone exception of the prescription drug program passed by the previous administration, has exceeded its original projections several fold and are all running out of money when they were originally supposed to be self financing?? Not to mention the financial and operating messes in the government run health care programs in Canada and Britain, which are decades old, and are getting worse, not better.
[Goanet] search of Heirs of Mr J.D.Pinto from Porvorim Goa
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