[Goanet] Dr. Oscar Rebello's question to God
Anthony Fernandes wrote: your comment that his act to say that he is an atheist is courageous speaks not of his courage, belated and late in life that it may have been revealed, but of the communal tolerance of those in his community. --- Dear Mr Fernandes, I respect you for your belief in God. Please don't shame others for their own beliefs. Not believing in God, in itself is act of courage. It puts the onus of responsibility squarely on man's shoulders. It is arrived at through a great deal of introspection rather than indoctrination. To admit it openly is a tremendous act of courage. I think with this admission he has successfully jettisoned his public career but as he has said several times, he has no political aspirations. I certainly wish he did. Best, selma
Re: [Goanet] More on Maqbool Fida Hussain's Hypocrisy
The letter by Hilda Raja spreads falsehoods and smears. For example, Husain has never painted Saraswati copulating with a lion, which Raja claims he has. I urge people not to trust everything they read and see in this age of photoshop. It has been pointed out that many of the paintings displayed on the trashy fringe websites such as that created by the Hindu Janajagruti Samiti have not been confirmed as authentic copies of Husain originals. Please note that they do not have Husain's signature on them, which other Husain paintings displayed by internet art galleries do. Please see the following, for example: http://www.cyberadsstudio.com/SPEAR/hussain/tour2.htm One endlessly repeated specious charge of bestiality is a transparent fabrication. The unconfirmed Durga painting in question appears simply as a nude figure riding a tiger with a Durga caption, with no sign of any sexual suggestibility at all. Bestiality is completely fantasized by the partisan Hindu extremists. I submit to you that most of the other charges are similarly exaggerated or fabricated. Cheers, Santosh --- On Mon, 3/8/10, Vasant Baliga vabal...@yahoo.com wrote: More on Maqbool Fida Hussain's Hypocrisy This is a Letter to the Editor of The Hindu, from a practising Christian lady,Dr.Hilda Raja, who was Professor in Stella Maris College, Chennai till recently; now settled at Baroda, regarding an Editorial in The Hindu in favour of bringing back MF Hussain to India.It exposes Hussain's hypocrisy and self serving attitude. http://hildaraja.wordpress.com/
Re: [Goanet] Dev borem korum
Dear friends, I have a serious problem. How do I say Thank you, God1 in Konkani? Please help. Mog asum. Sebastian Borges On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: You mean it's a blank cheque issued on someone else's account :-) FN On 7 March 2010 20:20, Antonio Menezes note that unlike a ''thank you'' the ''Dev borem korun'' has no quid pro quo attached to it. Sebastian Borges Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/
[Goanet] God and You
Albert writes:- God so loved the world that He was prepared to die for us and so He took a body form and created Jesus who became man and called himself the son of man.Jesus always loved his father and respected Him.The whole Christianity is based on love. Love from God to Man and love of man to man. Jesus abridged the ten commandments into just two simple commandments. Love God with your whole heart and love each other as Jesus has loved us. In what way did Jesus love God ? He loved God and it is because this love for His Father he ventured into this mission on earth. Jesus did not bother about the thorns that would poke him, or the stone poke while walking with the cross or the scouraging he would receive. He was concerned to wipe out the sins of humanity and to bind the bond of love between man and man. The greatest pain the Jesus is still suffering today is because the bond of love uniting man with another man is broken. It is replaced with hatred .Today one man is not ready to look into the eyes of another man. He does not love another man at all. There is no love between husband and wife .They are ready for a divorce . No love between parents and children. Between brothers and brothers or sisters and sisters or brothers and sisters. There is no love in the world at all. That is the reason our newspapers are filled with the stories of rape and murders. Our court folders are filed with cases of divorces and other lithigations which could have been avoided if there was love existing between people and people. _ Fight for the top Test spot http://sports.in.msn.com/cricket/
[Goanet] World Marks International Women's Day (RESPECT!)
http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/World-Marks-International-Womens-Day-86 889352.html Goanetters, Long live the Sisterhood! Rubygoes,
[Goanet] Trapped in Baroda - AIESEC-BARODA GUDBUD. AJEEB BAAT HAI!
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_trapped-in-baroda_1356992 Goanetters, Make sure your children don't fall into these traps. rubygoes
[Goanet] Konkan Kogull Wilfy Rebimbus passes away
Renowned Konkani singer, Konkan Kogull of Mangalore Wilfy Rebimbus passed away today morning in his native place in Mangalore. Fausto
Re: [Goanet] Dr. Oscar Rebello's question to God
Successfully jettisoned his public career? What bumkum! Most who believe in one God or the other and who are nurturing their public careers, require GOD to take them forward -- meaning establish vote banks. All they have to do is to stand in the to receive Holy Communion at Mass, or wear the red smear on the forhead and be clanging the temple bells or prostrate themselves 4 to 5 times a day in the namaaz services. These are the worst hypocrites, never to be trusted. I do hope Oscar chooses the public career in addition to his medical profession. He will do absolutely well. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org - Original Message - From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: [Goanet] Dr. Oscar Rebello's question to God Anthony Fernandes wrote: your comment that his act to say that he is an atheist is courageous speaks not of his courage, belated and late in life that it may have been revealed, but of the communal tolerance of those in his community. --- Dear Mr Fernandes, I respect you for your belief in God. Please don't shame others for their own beliefs. Not believing in God, in itself is act of courage. It puts the onus of responsibility squarely on man's shoulders. It is arrived at through a great deal of introspection rather than indoctrination. To admit it openly is a tremendous act of courage. I think with this admission he has successfully jettisoned his public career but as he has said several times, he has no political aspirations. I certainly wish he did. Best, selma
[Goanet] Still getting messages....
Batting maestro Sachin Tendulkar said he was still receiving congratulatory messages for becoming first batsman in the history of one-day cricket to score a double hundred and he was enjoying the good time. It has taken many years for a batsman to get a double-hundred (in ODIs). I am still getting great feedback. It feels terrific, he said. Asked when his fans would get to see a triple century from him in Test cricket, the master blaster said, whenever it comes. It will be never late, I don't make big statements. I wanted to play cricket whole-heartedly for the country. I am living my dream and have played with two-three generations. I wanted to be a special member of the team and I have done it, he added. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
[Goanet] Goa Paradise lost (Article in Forbes Magazine)
Jan van Djik looks weather beaten. It looks as if he spent a good part of his 67 years strolling on Calangute beach. The Dutchman has been following a 20-year ritual of visiting Goa twice a year. Except that over the last few years, he has been spending less and less time there. Doing a lot of travel in other parts, especially in the North Benares. It was travellers like Djik who made Goa the destination that it is. Tourists from sun-starved European countries escaped to Goa to avoid the brutal winter. Sipping beer, smoking marijuana or just playing a game of beach cricket, they bankrolled Goas tourism economy. The hotels, beach shacks, restaurants, two-wheeler hire guys, all made money. But today it has all spun out of control. Goa is seeing a sharp drop in foreign tourist arrivals compared to other popular Indian destinations like Agra, Jaipur and Kerala. It is also fast losing its billing as an international tourist haven. Most of its competitors, like Bali in Indonesia and Langkawi in Malaysia, have shown impressive growth in 2009. Even upcoming options like Sri Lanka and Vietnam are getting more feelers from European tourists, industry players say (see graphic). Goa used to get one out of five foreign tourists coming to India. But the 2009 winter season (the peak season, traditionally from October to March) has seen the second consecutive drop in incoming foreign tourists after the dramatic plummet in 2008 something that the local industry says has happened for the first time. This year it looks like the season has got over by mid-January, says Cruz Cardozo, president of the Goa Shack Owners Association. Various estimates put the total overseas tourist arrivals in 2009 at 300,000, down from about 350,000 a year earlier and about 380,000 in 2007. Sure, other popular Indian destinations, too, have suffered, but Goa has suffered more. According to tourism ministry, arrivals to India fell by 3.3 percent in 2009. That is marginal compared to Goa governments official figure of a 13 percent drop; the local industry estimates a more than a 30 percent dip. read rest of the article at http://business.in.com/article/real-issue/goa-paradise-lost/10992/0
Re: [Goanet] Dr Oscar Rebello's question to God
On 9 March 2010 15:47, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote: That is exactly what I am saying. By admitting he is an atheist, he is has alienated himself from the Catholic vote bank. This is not necessarily the case. I am more suspicious of how atheists/agnostics play on other people's sense of religiosity for political purposes. Jinnah was a non-believer. So is Advani. If not mistaken, Parrikar isn't too much into religiosity either. Salazar was a bad man but a good Catholic [http://www.goacom.com/culture/history/church.html]. Being irreligious oneself does not make one either (i) unacceptable to religious people (ii) immune to playing the politics of religion. These days, being irreligious can be fashionable. I think the true test is how tolerant we are to the views and beliefs of others, even when these challenge our own strongly, rather than just claiming we are secular, agnostic or atheist. FN
[Goanet] Jewish Surname
Let me pose a question to J. Colaco who is notorious for his responses after response. My query is further to his response i.e. Message: 1, Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 on the subject Jewish Surname (his response is appended here below) I don't understand J. Colaco's responses to every messages appearing in the forum! But right now I am curious to know the SURNAME of our lord Jesus Christ I expect J. C. will answer this question without twisting i.e. just write the surname ..that is what I am expectingfrom JC. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad J. C's RESPONSE Antonio has put forward an interesting theory. Here are two possibilities - one of which is scientifically verifiable i.e. the common maternal lineage can be traced back to Portugal or perhaps ...Spain: 1: The Menezes came from a part of Portugal called Menezes. The original surname (perhaps) being de Menezes 2: Genetic input during the period when the (expelled) Muslim rulers of Goa returned and surrounded (blockaded) it. The Old Goa Menezes sought refuge (et al) in Divar. Is this not the period when the bund' to Ribandar was built and the origin of the tradition when a token of the first crop is handed over to the Governor by the local farmers? jc On 8 March 2010 00:44, Antonio Menezes ac.mene...@gmail.com wrote: It is possible some rich Jews with immovable properties with Manases as surnames could have converted to Christianity and become Menezes one of whom came to Goa as a Christian missionary and bequeathed his surname to hundreds of Hindu converts.
[Goanet] Israeli drug dealer arrested in Goa
Israeli drug dealer arrested in Goa Panaji, March 9 : An Israeli drug dealer surrendered to the Goa police Tuesday afternoon, authorities said. Atala, alias Yaniv Banaim, a drug dealer operating in north Goa, was captured on spy camera speaking about his links to the Anti-Narcotics Cell (ANC) of the state police which had triggered the suspension of five policemen, including a senior police inspector, last week. Deputy Inspector General (DIG) Ravinder Singh Yadav said he was detained and would be handed over to the crime branch. He is being detained presently and will be later handed over to the crime branch, Yadav told IANS. A police officer said Atala, who entered India illegally after being deported from India some time back, surrendered to the police in the coastal region of Pernem. His arrest will help us crackdown on the police officers who are in collusion with the narcotics mafia in Goa, a police officer said. Atala was earlier arrested in a Narcotics Drugs and Psychotropic Substances (NDPS) case in 2006 and was subsequently deported. In the spy camera video which was uploaded on www.youtube.com, Atala tells an unidentified person that several police officers in the Goa police were on his 'take'. Atala also said he would source drugs from the ANC officers who would steal it for him from a magistrate's custody. The Goa police has been rocked by charges of collusion of its officials with the narcotics mafia in Goa. While five policemen have been already suspended for their links to Atala, a Goa-based serving superintendent of police's brother is being probed for his links to the illegal drug trade. http://www.littleabout.com/news/78629,israeli-drug-dealer-arrested-goa.h tml ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] Dr Oscar Rebello's question to God
Frederick Noronha wrote: This is not necessarily the case. I am more suspicious of how atheists/agnostics play on other people's sense of religiosity for political purposes. Jinnah was a non-believer. So is Advani. -- There are only some people who can juggle a personal belief of atheism or agnosticism and yet be staunch defenders of their community. Jinnah, Advani, Selma :-) Is Oscar savvy enough and political enough to do that..remains to be seen. Best, Selma
[Goanet] Two men charged over death of British teenager Scarlett Keeling
Two men charged over death of British teenager Scarlett Keeling By Mail Foreign Servicehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=yauthornamef=Mail+Foreign+Service Last updated at 1:20 PM on 09th March 2010 - Add to My Stories http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1256623/Two-men-charged-death-British-teenager-Scarlett-Keeling-Indian-beach.html [image: Scarlett Keeling was found dead on an Indian beach two years ago] Scarlett Keeling was found dead on an Indian beach two years ago Two men have been charged with the killing of British teenager Scarlett Keeling, who was found dead on an Indian beach two years ago. Samson D'Souza, 28, and Placido Carvalho, who is in his 30s, are facing charges of culpable homicide not amounting to murder, intent to outrage a woman's modesty, administering a drug with intent to harm and destruction of evidence. Their trial starts next week and the counsel representing Scarlett's mother Fiona Mackeown has welcomed the move as a major breakthrough in the case. Lawyer Vikram Verma, said: 'After two years things are finally moving forward and I look forward to fighting for justice in Scarlett's case.' Scarlett, 15, from Bideford, Devon, was found dead on Anjuna beach in Goa in February 2008. She was on a six-month holiday with her family and had been left in the care of a 25-year-old tour guide while her mother and siblings went travelling. When Scarlett's body was found on the beach, Indian investigators said she had drowned, but a second post-mortem examination carried out at the insistence of Fiona revealed evidence of attack injuries. India's Central Bureau of Investigation started a fresh investigation, which led to the arrest of Samson and Placido in March 2008. They were later released on bail until finally appearing in the Goa Children's Court on Monday. The court again granted them bail, despite Mr Vermas appealing for them to be remanded in custody. 'The duo has been charged and if they are bailed, I am concerned they will flee,' he said. According to Mr Verma, Scarlett's mother has no plans to attend the trial, which could last a year. In October the 45-year-old mum expressed her fear over having to wait until the outcome of the trial to be able to bury her daughter. Scarlett's body still lies in a Devon mortuary and will not be released until the end of the trial. However, Mr Verma believes the trial may be fast tracked and could be over in a matter of months. 'The government is acting seriously against the people involved in the crimes against foreigners,' he added. -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Britain advices dress code
I wonder if the brits will be told to wear kashti? Misses Wendy must be rubbing her hands with glee! BC
[Goanet] Dr Oscar Rebello's question to God
Floriano Lobo wrote: Most who believe in one God or the other and who are nurturing their public careers, require GOD to take them forward -- meaning establish vote banks. All they have to do is to stand in the to receive Holy Communion at Mass, or wear the red smear on the forhead and be clanging the temple bells or prostrate themselves 4 to 5 times a day in the namaaz services. These are the worst hypocrites, never to be trusted. -- Dear Floriano, That is exactly what I am saying. By admitting he is an atheist, he is has alienated himself from the Catholic vote bank. I do hope Oscar embarks on a political career but I see little chance of success for a man like him. For Catholics to win elections they have to be Churchill, Monseratte and Micky. Political change in society comes when society itself changes, not the other way round. Perhaps I'm just feeling unduly pessimistic today but we have failed desperately to create grass-root change in our society. Infact, we have regressed. Our education system has failed us completely. We go to colleges but we remain the same. There is no introspection. There is no interest in anything other than the mundane. There is no principle. There is only the immediacy of survival. The immediacy of the next visa out of Goa, the next Honda city car, the next purchase of a flat, the next budday party and the next wedding. Some times when I'm at a budday party, I get the uncontrollable urge to throw the cake on everyone's face. Best, selma
Re: [Goanet] Dr Oscar Rebello's question to God
Selma, Thanks. I am learning. Talking about Monserrate, Mickky, Churchill, just the other day someone told me that one of these guys had to invest in money counting machines for home use. :-) Cheers floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 3:47 PM Subject: [Goanet] Dr Oscar Rebello's question to God Floriano Lobo wrote: Most who believe in one God or the other and who are nurturing their public careers, require GOD to take them forward -- meaning establish vote banks. All they have to do is to stand in the to receive Holy Communion at Mass, or wear the red smear on the forhead and be clanging the temple bells or prostrate themselves 4 to 5 times a day in the namaaz services. These are the worst hypocrites, never to be trusted. -- Dear Floriano, That is exactly what I am saying. By admitting he is an atheist, he is has alienated himself from the Catholic vote bank. I do hope Oscar embarks on a political career but I see little chance of success for a man like him. For Catholics to win elections they have to be Churchill, Monseratte and Micky. Political change in society comes when society itself changes, not the other way round. Perhaps I'm just feeling unduly pessimistic today but we have failed desperately to create grass-root change in our society. Infact, we have regressed. Our education system has failed us completely. We go to colleges but we remain the same. There is no introspection. There is no interest in anything other than the mundane. There is no principle. There is only the immediacy of survival. The immediacy of the next visa out of Goa, the next Honda city car, the next purchase of a flat, the next budday party and the next wedding. Some times when I'm at a budday party, I get the uncontrollable urge to throw the cake on everyone's face. Best, selma
[Goanet] Souvenir booklet for the KGI centenary celebrations - Articles Needed
The Kampala (Goan) Institute Centenary Celebrations Committee is asking all KI members and their descendants for stories (even in point form) on the following topics: * Members' (or their children's) accomplishments in Uganda or after Uganda - academic, political, sports, awards etc. * Funny stories that make us remember the past * A great story from each decade Defining stories (good or bad, conflict that ended up with good) Interesting moments Literary events Cultural events * Notable dance bands that played there - Nobby His Band, Drifters, Evil Beats, Diatones, Melody Makers, Rhythm Kings etc * Sports accomplishments of the KGI/KI men and women * The history of a particular sport in the KGI * KI in the days of the Expulsion * History of the evolution of the building. How it expanded, how it obtained sports grounds. * Photographs The Committee will consider all articles and decide on those to be published either on our website or in our Souvenir Brochure. Submissions are requested by March 31, 2010 at the latest. Thank you . KGI Organizing Committee Email: kampala.goan.instit...@live.com Website: http://www.kampalagoaninstitute.com/
Re: [Goanet] Dev Borem Korum
Dear Selma, Thank you for that bit of digging into the etymology of good, which, as far as I can recall, neither I nor anybody else in this discussion claimed was derived from God. Still, the Oxford English Dictionary, in its various manifestations, is certainly a great resource. It tracked the first use of one particular term to 1285? We weren't even alive then! Regards, Victor --- On Mon, 3/8/10, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Dev Borem Korum To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 12:41 PM The ethmology of the word Good is not God as we understand the word. The ethomology of morning is morewen. Good morning is not exactly derived from May God give you a good morning. It is an expression of its own accord from Gode morewen, for the olde English word good. I could be wrong of course. best, selma good (adj.) O.E. god (with a long o) having the right or desirable quality, from P.Gmc. *gothaz (cf. O.N. goðr, Du. goed, Ger. gut, Goth. goþs), originally fit, adequate, belonging together, from PIE base *ghedh- to unite, be associated, suitable (cf. O.C.S. godu pleasing time, Rus. godnyi fit, suitable, O.E. gædrian to gather, to take up together). Irregular comparatives (better, best) reflect a widespread pattern, cf. L. bonus, melior, optimus. First record of good day is from c.1205. Goods property first recorded c.1280, but singular in the same sense was in O.E. The good neighbours is Scot. euphemism for the fairies (1588). Good-for-nothing is from 1711; good-looking is from 1780; good-natured first recorded 1577. Good sport is from 1917; good to go is attested from 1989. mid-13c., morn, morewen (see morn) + suffix -ing, on pattern of evening. Originally the time just before sunrise. Morning after hangover is from 1884; as a type of contraception, attested from 1867. Morning sickness first recorded 1879 (O.E. had morgenwlætung). Morning glory is from 1814, in reference to the time the flowers open. Morning star Venus in the east before sunrise is from 1530s (O.E. had morgensteorra).
Re: [Goanet] Jewish Surname
There wereno formal surnames at that time; the nearest to a surname was the Nazarene (of Nazareth) or bar Joseph s/o Joseph. The Christ was a title. There is belief that Joseph's family name was Alpheus same as his brother's f/o James Jose and Judas Thadeus. Alfred Have I got you aout of the hole dear doc? From: dr.udayba...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:56:34 +0530 Subject: [Goanet] Jewish Surname Let me pose a question to J. Colaco who is notorious for his responses after response. My query is further to his response i.e. Message: 1, Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 on the subject Jewish Surname (his response is appended here below) I don't understand J. Colaco's responses to every messages appearing in the forum! But right now I am curious to know the SURNAME of our lord Jesus Christ I expect J. C. will answer this question without twisting i.e. just write the surname ..that is what I am expectingfrom JC. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad J. C's RESPONSE Antonio has put forward an interesting theory. Here are two possibilities - one of which is scientifically verifiable i.e. the common maternal lineage can be traced back to Portugal or perhaps ...Spain: 1: The Menezes came from a part of Portugal called Menezes. The original surname (perhaps) being de Menezes 2: Genetic input during the period when the (expelled) Muslim rulers of Goa returned and surrounded (blockaded) it. The Old Goa Menezes sought refuge (et al) in Divar. Is this not the period when the bund' to Ribandar was built and the origin of the tradition when a token of the first crop is handed over to the Governor by the local farmers? jc On 8 March 2010 00:44, Antonio Menezes ac.mene...@gmail.com wrote: It is possible some rich Jews with immovable properties with Manases as surnames could have converted to Christianity and become Menezes one of whom came to Goa as a Christian missionary and bequeathed his surname to hundreds of Hindu converts. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
[Goanet] More on Maqbool Fida Hussain's Hypocrisy
Dear Santosh, You have suggested that whatever Dr.Raja has stated is false. You may wish to clarify- 1.Has Hussain not painted Hindu deities in an obscene manner and thereby offended Hindu sensibilities?Has he painted any other religious figures or for that matter any other figures like his favourite Madhuri Dixit in the nude? 2.Did he or did he not support the emergency? 3.Does Qatar offer greater democratic freedoms than India? Secularists may defend Hussain and his paintings until the cows come home,but the fact of the matter is that secularism is not a ticket to offending religious sensibilities on a selective basis in the name of creative art. This is what Sri Sri Ravi Shankar has stated- Ravi Shankar flays Husain for nude painting BANGALORE: Spiritual guru Sri Sri Ravi Shankar Monday expressed surprise over the hue and cry over painter M.F. Husain's move to give up Indian citizenship and chided him for painting Indian gods in the nude. While India has a policy of free expression, one cannot accept blatant insult to the heroes of its land. It is the intention behind a man's creativity which is questionable, Ravi Shankar said in a statement. In one of Husain's paintings of Mahatma Gandhi, Karl Marx, Albert Einstein and Hitler, he painted only Hitler nude and said that his way of humiliating a person is to paint him nude. No one has ever sculpted Rama and Sita as nude. Creative expression is always welcome. No country has been as liberal as India... Any nude woman could have been painted by him but calling the women Sita, Lakshmi (and) Saraswati shows his perversion and hatred. Will M.F. Husain show the same creativity and the same spirit with Islamic heroes and would he, then, be able retain his Qatari citizenship? Double standards, Regards Vasant Baliga The letter by Hilda Raja spreads falsehoods and smears. For example, Husain has never painted Saraswati copulating with a lion, which Raja claims he has. I urge people not to trust everything they read and see in this age of photoshop. It has been pointed out that many of the paintings displayed on the trashy fringe websites such as that created by the Hindu Janajagruti Samiti have not been confirmed as authentic copies of Husain originals. Please note that they do not have Husain's signature on them, which other Husain paintings displayed by internet art galleries do. Please see the following, for example: http://www.cyberadsstudio.com/SPEAR/hussain/tour2.htm One endlessly repeated specious charge of bestiality is a transparent fabrication. The unconfirmed Durga painting in question appears simply as a nude figure riding a tiger with a Durga caption, with no sign of any sexual suggestibility at all. Bestiality is completely fantasized by the partisan Hindu extremists. I submit to you that most of the other charges are similarly exaggerated or fabricated. Cheers, Santosh --- On Mon, 3/8/10, Vasant Baliga vabal...@yahoo.com wrote: ? ? More on Maqbool Fida Hussain's Hypocrisy This is a Letter? to the Editor of The Hindu, from a practising Christian lady,Dr.Hilda Raja,?who was Professor in Stella Maris College, Chennai till recently; now settled at Baroda, regarding an Editorial in The Hindu in favour of bringing back MF Hussain to India.It exposes Hussain's hypocrisy and self serving attitude. ? http://hildaraja.wordpress.com/ ?
Re: [Goanet] Jewish Surname
Dr. U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com wrote (excerpted infra.): 1: Let me pose a question to J. Colaco who is notorious for his responses after response. 2: I don't understand J. Colaco's responses to every messages appearing in the forum! 3: But right now I am curious to know the SURNAME of our lord Jesus Christ 4: I expect J. C. will answer this question without twisting i.e. just write the surname 5:..that is what I am expecting Dear Dr. Barad, First of all, my apologies for your inability to understand my responses. I will try write in Ingraji, the next time around. For now, please allow me to respond in simple English. Secondly, I appreciate the fact that you have omitted verbal abuse from your post. Thank you Sir! I am also delighted to know that you are expecting, albeit a response from me. Now, to your substantive question. ANSWER: It is my understanding that surnames were not assigned in the days of Jesus. This explains why Jesus is known as Jesus of Nazareth..or (in an Iberian language) Jesus de Nazaré I hope this has quenched your curiosity. sincerely and (of course) very respectfully jc
[Goanet] Dev borem korum
Dear Victor, This is what you wrote: In England centuries ago it used to be God give you a good morning - I correct my earlier assertion that God and Good do not have a common ethmology. They may have. But the phrase itself was gode morwene and not God give you a good morning. You do see how this like Goan and Goanese. :-) I aim to please. warm regards, Selma
[Goanet] Mining Moratorium -PETITION
Dear All You can now sign a Petition to the Minister of State for Environment and Forest Mr Jaiaram Ramesh on http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php The petition is not to lift the moratorium on new mining leases till such time as the ministry has received and considered the environmental impact assessment and Goa's mining carrying capacity report of NEERI. Thanks for your help and cooperation. Carmen Miranda
[Goanet] Hat's off to Sonia Madam....
Hat's off to Sonia Madam Sonia Gandhi: When issues like this are discussed, both sides of the picture are put before us...either me, or the PM, or Pranab Mukherjee.and then we take a view...after assessing positives and negatives...then together we come to a conclusion. It was not my decision..I could not have take...n it on my own. NDTV: Are you worried about how it will impact functioning of your government? Sonia Gandhi: In politics, there are always risks..the larger picture has to be taken. http://www.ndtv.com/news/india/sonia-gandhi-exclusive-on-womens-bill-17464.php I am personally very happy that first hurdle has passed. Hope that next few hurdles are overcome soon. It will be great if 50% or more of our governance is controlled by Women in India. Sonia Madam has shown great shrewdness. She knows that this may be down fall of her UPA government. But even that happens, she is confident that Congress will grow in strength from 206 to 270. She is using all the winds that will keep her opponents toss against each other. Congress has already given new definition for Prize Rise.. 'Fuel Prize Rise do not inflate prizes'. Another 15 days are crucial specially Finance bill comes for voting. Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/
[Goanet] Dr. Oscar Rebello’s question to God
Selma, I do not think there is anything courageous in declaring oneself atheist. In today's world. It has in fact become fashionable to do so. A person does not become a better person by becoming an atheist. It is qualities of head and heart that makes one a good human being and not any ism's or religiosity. History is replete of persons who professed great religiosity or atheism who wrought monstrosities. Examples are Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Mugabe, Idi Amin. George Bush II a born again caused tremendous bloodshed and misery in Iraq. Elections are not won by practicing religion but more by exploiting religious sentiments. All the same, I believe Dr Oscar Rebello to be a fine person and my best wishes are with him. Regards, Marshall
[Goanet] What's wrong!!!
Frederick Noronha: Stupid sounds a bit rude. If you say insensitive or ill-informed it might make for a better point :-) Response: You do have a valid point. My apologies to Dr Barad. On a separate note, have these changes in terminology/ sophistry made a difference to the world we are living in? For example, 'housewife' has become 'homemaker', 'maid' has become 'houseworker', 'prostitute' has become 'sex worker', 'mentally ill' has become 'mentally challenged', 'lame' has become 'physically challenged', 'under developed country' has become 'developing country', 'government overthrow' has become 'regime change'. Has the world changed for the better? Regards, Marshall
Re: [Goanet] Jewish Surname
On 9 March 2010 07:26, Dr. U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com wrote: Let me pose a question to J. Colaco who is notorious for his responses after response. My query is further to his response i.e. Message: 1, Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 on the subject Jewish Surname (his response is appended here below) I don't understand J. Colaco's responses to every messages appearing in the forum! But right now I am curious to know the SURNAME of our lord Jesus Christ I expect J. C. will answer this question without twisting i.e. just write the surname ..that is what I am expectingfrom JC. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad RESPONSE: If I may, in those days and in the Middle East in Particular there were no surnames. In Arabic even today it is thus - Abu Giles - i.e. father or Giles (Since Giles is better known among his friends). So one can have a long line of 'Al Saud'Abdul Rahman bin Abdullah bin Abdul Rahman al Saud. Which literally shows the line up to Abdul Rahman who was incidentally, was also the father of King Abdel Aziz, the founder of Saudi Arabia. So it was Jesus, son of Joseph or/and also Jesus of Nazareth, the carpenter, or son of the carpenter. You are most welcome; if I can be of any more help be knock on my door! -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Goa news for March 10, 2010
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa cop suspended over YouTube drug claims - AFP n-2006-Atala-in-Goa-despite-state-blacklist/articleshow/5645112.cmsusg=AFQjCNH1d9WiiToNrP2kxVDrDauQGdu6lADeported in 2006, Atala in Goa despite state blacklist http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gzk-yQ7qPgyc8KbtaD3igjGLz5rAusg=AFQjCNEM2rBe0zH8Gb1PKcqk4uhG9uqGaA *** Selja tells locals to keep up Goa's friendly image - Herald Publications egrets-crime-incidents-in-Goausg=AFQjCNGEYXsYyj1k5URLTmzEMhs9ba_NdwSelja regrets crime incidents in Goa http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://oheraldo.in/news/Main%20Page%20News/Selja-tells-locals-to-keep-up-Goa-rsquo-s-friendly-image/34340.htmlusg=AFQjCNE5wk0o9EW-4LYeXeKdS0X2g7A3BA *** Two men charged over death of British teenager Scarlett Keeling on Indian beach - Daily Mail harged-over-death-of-british-teenager-in-goa-1918847.htmlusg=AFQjCNFEvhysy0kYUB0lASoOVmLcy_0tUgTwo charged over death of British teenager in Goa http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1256623/Two-men-charged-death-British-teenager-Scarlett-Keeling-Indian-beach.htmlusg=AFQjCNH8EE18jAoZMQvssaC3CLs1mHOROw *** Valuation may take another hit after FPO - Economic Times onomic TimesDespite such strong financials, the stock has underperformed compared to Sesa Goa, its closest competitor. This could be attributed to a CAGR decline of 4% ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/stocks/views/recommendations/Valuation-may-take-another-hit-after-FPO/articleshow/5665032.cmsusg=AFQjCNGyb9gL4DUxxb3vPfLOHQutlyVGUQ *** Israeli drug dealer held in Goa - Times of India olice-to-analyse-seized-drugs-news-national-kdjmEddhggi.htmlusg=AFQjCNEkJ2j9Nc1Qhq_IEJjfsHesgQGslgGoa Police to analyse seized drugs http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Israeli-drug-dealer-held-in-Goa/articleshow/5663569.cmsusg=AFQjCNGnIQ231bup-8VFjjW7bvL2Je-paw *** Russians should sunbathe, have fun, go back, says Goa BJP - Little About (blog) ops-linked-to-drug-mafia-Parrikar/articleshow/5660479.cmsusg=AFQjCNGXCjg_yffSNQ3lgiAxsZoCKqDQXQArrest cops linked to drug mafia: Parrikar http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.littleabout.com/news/78287,russians-sunbathe-fun-goa-bjp.htmlusg=AFQjCNGA0L57p-UtzjVyOiLJwMJ-4EARLA *** Britain advises tourists to adopt local dress in Goa - Times of India ocal-dress-code-in-goa-britain-to-tourists.htmlusg=AFQjCNEJb43q_XlPlgXTYVPNagoW71jMhAAdopt local dress code in Goa: Britain http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Britain-advises-tourists-to-adopt-local-dress-in-Goa/articleshow/5661693.cmsusg=AFQjCNFjUvtJ9Mcf3L9oqRidBlrTnZxyRA *** Russians face backlash in India's Goa - AFP PMORJIM, India #148; Russians are facing a backlash in Goa with allegations of organised crime, illegal land deals and even claims that they are corrupting the ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j5QIbFrGQ-jtg-uUMxlJcbpto0ugusg=AFQjCNGhW5C2e_uir-vqMMCESTQYOHCGhQ *** Sun-kissed beaches not working for Goa tourism anymore - Moneycontrol.com ear ritual of visiting Goa twice a year. Except that over the last few years, he has been spending less and less time ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/sun-kissed-beaches-not-working-for-goa-tourism-anymore_445421.htmlusg=AFQjCNFBiaHhwH97xXVqFFdruppPSSITMw *** Goa Center for Alternative Photography launches first edition of Goa ... - I-Newswire.com (press release) ewswire.com (press release)The exhibition will then travel to Mumbai and Goa. All the competition entered images would be presented in a coffee table book to be published in August ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.i-newswire.com/goa-center-for-alternative-photography/25502usg=AFQjCNGk4QM66navgj0HxYm3I5tbwiKwfQ Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Art History Club - Membership
Monsoon Grey Centre for Design (www.monsoongrey.com) in collaboration with Gallery Gitanjali,Panjim has launched Zeitgeist, the first Art History Club in Goa (details below). The first open session held on March 4th to explore the beginnings of Modern Art was very well received by the participants. The session traced the prehistory of modernism discussing the seminal works of the Neo-Classicists, Romantics and Realists. Special emphasis was laid on the role of Manet in subverting the artistic languages prevalent in the 19th century and in sowing the seeds of modernism in European art. The club is facillitated by Apurva Kulkarni, an art historian, who looks forward to sharing his knowledge in this area with registered participants. The next session will be *IMPRESSIONISM*, the first movement in modern art featuring the artworks of Monet, Renoir, including a special emphasis on Degas. Those of you who wish to be part of this club or have indicated a desire to join the Art History Club by taking the registration forms or calling or emailing us are requested to PLEASE CONFIRM their intent to join by Friday,12th March 2010 latest. They can do so by calling on 9423316395 or emailing us on monsoong...@gmail.com This is IMPORTANT as it will enable us to plan the next session scheduled tentatively for the 19th of March 2010. --- * About Zeitgeist, The Art History Club Zeigeist is a membership based Art History Club that meets regularly to explore art and visual culture in its various forms through lectures and discussion on a wide range of topics such as artists, movement, period, school, theme to state a few. Each session will have members coming together to celebrate art in an informal atmosphere. A slideshow will accompany the one hour lecture followed by a discussion. * Who can participate? The club will be open to anyone above the age of 16 years and from any background. Limted Seats (20) * Facilitator: Apurva Kulkarni * Duration: 10 sessions of one and a half hours each, spread over 6 months (participants can also register for 20 sessions, 12 months) * Membership fee: Rs 2500 for 6 months, 10 sessions (Rs 4000 annual membership) For more information please contact Gayathri Konkar at 9423316395 or email us at monsoong...@gmail.com Monsoon Grey Centre for Design is a collaborative supported by Xavier Centre of Historical Research, Porvorim, Goa, visit our website www.monsoongrey.com Goanet A-C-E! Arts ~ Culture ~ Entertainment
[Goanet] Konkan Kogul Wilfy Rebimbus passes away- Funeral March 11
Konkan Kogul Wilfy Rebimbus passes away- Funeral March 11 Team Mangalorean, Mangalore Mangalore, March 9, 2010: Mangalore's very own, Wilfy Gerald Rebimbus passed away to his heavenly abode at 11:15 am at the Fr. Muller's Hospital, Kankanady, Mangalore. His demise leaves an irreplaceable void in the Mangalorean community and the Konkani Cultural Community at large. Known as the Konkan Kogul of Mangalore, Wilfy Rebimbus’s contribution to Konkani music was immeasurable. Born on April 2nd 1942 in Mangalore, to late Landeline Rebimbus and late Magdeline Mendonca, Wilfy dedicated all his life to music. A highly talented composer and singer, in a career spanning about 4 decades, Wilfy has written thousands of songs and staged more than 245 'Wilfy Nights'and released 40 albums, 6 Devotional Albums and 1 Instrumental album. Family File Photo Wilfy Rebimbus also has the distinction of having performed live shows all over India, the Gulf countries and Canada. All his shows have been tremendously successful and have served to bring all Konkani speaking people together through the mellifluous language of music. He leaves behind his beloved wife, Meena Rebimbus, Son/Daughter in law, Vishwas and Charlene Rebimbus, Daugher/Son-in-law Veena and Arthur Pais, And grandchildren Arvin and Anna. The editorial team of www.mangalorean.com joins its readers in conveying their heartfelt condolences to the bereaved family of our beloved Wilfy Rebimbus. Wilfy’s mortal remains will be kept for viewing at St. Joseph’s Seminary Jeppu between 2pm and 4 pm on Thursday 11 March 2010 and Requiem mass at 4 pm followed by burial at Jeppu Cemetery. http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcastbroadcastid=172215
[Goanet] REPORT: Cuncolim Welfare Trust Annual Social Fiesta
President’s Note Friends, Cuncolkars, Countrymen The Trustees, Committee Members and myself Wish You All a “Happy Feast” and welcomes you all to celebrate our togetherness at the Gala Annual Day Celebration. May our Patroness “Our Lady of Health” intercede for each one of you and your families and may you be blessed with Good Health, Happiness, Peace and Prosperity all through 2010. Hope 2009 had been kind to you and your family. Photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/noellakittu/CuncolimSocial# It has been kind to the Cuncolim Welfare Trust. We had set a modest target and achieved it. On Independence Day, August 15, 2009, in Cuncolim Goa - 59 Eligible students were provided financial aid ; 25 students received Sponsorships ; 25 Meritorious students were awarded scholarships A drawing/painting competition was organized in Cuncolim on the occasion of the Independence Day, which was well patronized and attended. An annual trip to Khandala was organized for Committee/subcommittee members and their families, and of course the Annual Gala Get-together 2009 which was well attended. You the Well-wishers, Donors, Committee Members and Trustees deserve a pat on the back. A ‘BIG THANK YOU’ to you all, we are grateful for your efforts and valuable contribution. However, we cannot stop here, but increase our efforts towards our welfare activities for which we gained the trust of the Cuncolkars. Our First need is the greatest need – You Cuncolkars. We need you to become members – make members. We need each one of you to contribute towards the Trust by registering as members, Come on The membership is only Rs 500/- per person and every adult member of the family is entitled to become and should become a member. This appeal is to all Cuncolkars, especially the young blood to establish your roots. We understand many people have moved house, if your address has changed, please drop your card or intimate us your new address and telephone/cell no. so that we can get in touch with you. We also have to make the Trust a dynamic and vibrant entity with its own distinct identity. The first and foremost step - the registered office/premises of the Trust must be legally transferred in the name of the Trust. It is unfortunate and sad that after all these years the Trust has no legal home to call its own. We are grateful to all the stalwarts who held the premises in “trust” in the past. Legal consultations are on to effect this goal and the co-operation of all committee members past and present, Trustees and well-wishers will be appreciated. I end this note, thanking you all once again and wishing you All the Best for the New Year 2010. Dev Boren Korum Nassim DeSouza President (Bandra, Mumbai-Dandora, Cuncolim) Cell No.9920939453 THE CUNCOLIM WEFARE TRUST ANNUAL SOCIAL FIESTA For many of you who were not able to make it on the 7th of Feb, 2010.. we give you a gist into what you missed at the wonderful fiesta!! In the hustle bustle of our lives, we very rarely have the time to meet and greet each other and the Cuncolim Social Gathering is one such place where you get your chance to do that... God was and always will be the center of our celebrations and so we started with the Holy Mass, which gives you a divine feeling of being one with your community and with all, gathered there. We, a small family, the members, wanted to make this Social a one with a difference, a one where all feel they are a part of it. So we chose a new venue, a new setting-indoors-The Willingdon Gymkhana-Santa Cruz. We began the afternoon with the achievements, as that's what makes us proud of knowing that we are not anywhere behind in terms of academic excellence and that makes me proud that amongst us we have students topping with 90% and above. I wish all Cuncolkars take this as an example and strive to make a place for yourselves in this vast world, the sky is not the limit anymore. Not to forget the Sports and other activities too that are equally important in our lives and give us the spirit to be energetic and healthy. The Presidents Speech, and the thank you note by Hon. Secretary-Ronnie Almeida was sweet and short, and one that gave us clarity of all that we do and all that we want to do as committee members/Cuncolkars, and a meaning to feel that we are ONE and should remain so.When we work to-gether, we learn from each other and accomplish more that we could do alone. Truly it is the combined effort of each and every one of us that allow us to achieve our goals. Lets get to the fun and frolic, the dance sessions of Beat It and “Fruit Salad Mix” by Susie was a great entertainer...keep it up Susie, we need enthusiastic people around who can make us shake a leg and everything else too. The DJ and Compare were great too, they made sure the young and not so young were entertained with excellent music, dance and games. The
[Goanet] Eves grab 5 out of 9 in salcette
Three sitting members, wives of two former Zilla chairpersons, two former sarpanchas and two sitting panchas have been elected for the South Goa Zilla Panchayat from Salcete taluka. Of the nine winning candidates, five have turned out to be women – three from reserved constituencies and two from the general category. Sitting ZP members, who have retained their seats, are Maria Rebello (Benaulim), Domnick Gaonkar (Raia) and Nelly Rodrigues (Colva). Nelly was elected unopposed. The wives of former ZP chairpersons Joe Dias and Cleofacio Dias – Sabrina (Chinchinim) and Seema (Guirdolim) — have also made it to the Zilla Panchayat. Panch members who got elected to the district panchayat body were Wilfred D’Sa (Nuvem) and Anthony (Babush) Rodrigues (Assolna). Veena Lourenco and Maria Miranda are the two former sarpanchas who have been elected to the Zilla Panchayat from Curtorim and Davorlim ZP constituencies, respectively. Sarpanchas who received the drubbing at the hustings were Camurlim Sarpanch Basilio Fernandes (Raia) and Ambelim Sarpanch Cruz Silva (Velim). Constituency-wise, PWD Minister Churchill Alemao-backed sitting Benaulim ZP member Maria Rebello retained the ZP seat in style winning the seat by a huge margin of 5350 votes. Maria polled a total of votes. So pronounced was her victory that the remaining three candidates could not even cross the four-figure mark. Maria took an unassailable lead of 5347 votes in round one, leaving the other two candidates way behind. Her nearest rival, Domnick Santano Colaco managed to poll only 205 votes. The remaining two candidates, Judas Chagas Silva polled 187 votes, while Bartolomeu Gracias polled only 149 votes. In Velim, Water Resources Minister Filipe Neri Rodgrigues-backed Anthony (Babush) Rodrigues got the better of Cruz Silva by winning the seat by a margin of 330 votes. While Babush polled 2876 votes, Silva polled 2546 votes. Jorge Crasto polled only 437 votes. Similarly, in Chinchinim, the wife of sitting ZP member Joe Dias, Sabria – who was backed by both Churchill Alemao and Filipe Neri Rodrigeus – won the seat by a margin of 497 votes. While Sabrina polled 2239 votes, her nearest rival Joslyn Fernandes polled 1742 votes. Tina Pereira and Doura Fernandes polled 1075 and 673 votes respectively. In the straight fight for the Guirdolim seat between Seema Dias, wife of incumbent ZP Chairperson Cleofacio and Sunita Gonsalves, Seema scored a comfortable victory by a margin of 2914 votes. While Seema, who was backed by Urban Development Minister Joaquim Alemao, polled 4629 votes, Sunita polled only 1715 votes. In Raia, the fierce straight fight between sitting ZP member Domnick Gaonkar and Basilio Fernandes went in favour of Domnick, who was declared elected by a margin of 669 votes. Raia was in the news as Basilio’s candidate was backed by Power Minister Alexio Sequeira, PWD Minister Churchill Alemao and Curtorim MLA Reginaldo Lourenco, while Domnic was supported by Tourism Minister Mickky Pacheco. While Domnick polled 4059 votes, Basilio got 3386 votes. In Nuvem, Wilfred D’Sa emerged victorious over Francisco Macarenhas by a comfortable margin of 1392 votes. Backed by Tourism Minister Mickky Pacheco, Wilfred poled 4807 votes as against 3417 votes polled by Francisco, who was backed by the Churchill Alemao-Alexio Sequeira combine. Former Curtorim Sarpanch Veena Lourenco won the Curtorim seat by a margin of 2787 votes. Reginaldo Lourenco-backed Veena polled 4511 votes while her nearest rival Sarita Dias polled 1724 votes. The third candidate Alinda Fernandes came a poor third by polling only 761 votes. Churchill Alemao backed-Maria Miranda scored a handsome victory over Fatima Miranda in Davorlim by winning the seat by a margin of 2584 votes. While Maria poled 4193 votes, Fatima polled only 1609 votes. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
[Goanet] What's wrong !!!!
Dear Marshall, I have a few that I have coined myself. You can use them freely whenever you want. Information challenged. Conversational incontinence. Baradesque. The additional advantage is you can use them for a wide variety of purposes. :-) Best, selma
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (10Mar10)
*** Crackdown on drug peddlers *** Why dont you pedal cycles...its healthier and within the Law! To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
Re: [Goanet] Ayahs, butlers and cooks... (Goanet highlights by Selma Carvalho)
Selma: Wonderful topic ... a few contextual titbits on the subject: The brother of the creater of James Bond Fleming was the Governor of Seychelles ... His butler was a Goanese I think the Goans had a head start because studying European languages, PPortuguese, English and French was part of the school system in Goa. .. the fact that they were Christians was a huge advantage ... in more ways than one ... I am reminded about EM Foster Passage to India ... the Goans had fewer inhibition about talking to the opposite sex etc. In Tanganyika , Goans actually were in charge of the Catering Department from Day one . this meant all the First Class Resturant on the trains plus all the Railway Hotels .. The catering for our wedding in 1963, well into independence was done by the Railways, there was still a Goan in Charge and what is more there were enough cooking utencils and help to cater for 300 or more people ,,, About two years ago .at the Railway Hotel in Dodoma yes there was a Muhindi from India he turned out to be a fellow Goan. Were there any Goan Barbers in East Africa? Goans are really all over the world ... even in Timbuctoo it happened to be me. Adolfo - Original Message - From: Goanet News Goanet highlights by Selma Carvalho se...@goanet.org In a land beset with communal tensions, Dr Oscar Rebello, who shot to fame as the man who took on the government and brought to a halt the proposed Regional Plan, recently confessed to being an atheist, a very courageous act in a predominantly religious country but a mindset certainly welcome in a secular country. Here is a candid interview with a Goan daily, sent in by JoeGoaUK.
Re: [Goanet] What's wrong!!!
Hi Marshall, Nope, the world hasn't changed one bit. What has is that, when we're sticking in the knife, we do it with a bit of concern if not guilt :-) FN On 9 March 2010 22:33, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote: On a separate note, have these changes in terminology/ sophistry made a difference to the world we are living in? For example, 'housewife' has become 'homemaker', 'maid' has become 'houseworker', 'prostitute' has become 'sex worker', 'mentally ill' has become 'mentally challenged', 'lame' has become 'physically challenged', 'under developed country' has become 'developing country', 'government overthrow' has become 'regime change'. Has the world changed for the better? Regards, Marshall
[Goanet] Art Escape presents Drum Circle workshops followed by Film Screenings
Art escape presents Drum circle workshop on 13th 14th march from 5pm-7pm Taal Inc. Drum Circles is an extension of you, and your celebration of your connection with your inner rhythm. Here you will learn more about drum circles, its application, its scope, watch videos, pictures and much more. Conducted by Varun Venkit, Clinical Psychologist, Percussionist and Drummer with Agnee, Masters NLP Practitioner, NFNLP, USA. The aim is to reach out to people using the medium of a drum and positively influence the areas of health and well-being, stress reduction, communication enhancement, potential building and to learn a whole new discipline - the Djembe! Programme: Interactive music exercises, stress reduction techniques, communication enhancement procedures, group cohesiveness building exercises through the metaphor of drumming and vocal exercises. Instruments used: African hand drums (Djembes), Latin American hand drums (Congas, bongos, ashikos), Frame drums, Various percussion instruments (Shakers, wood-blocks, bells,) Method: Group rhythm exercises, rhythmic games, disguised, experiential and observational learning. Number of participants: · A – 10 to 50 Charges: · Students kids Rs 200 (larger group will get further discount) · Other Rs 250 (group booking will get further discounts) Limited seats so please give us call or email us to confirm your participation. OPEN TO ALL AGE GROUPS Art escape and WAVE presents 2 days SUPPER FILM SCREENING after the drum circle workshops on SAT/SUN 13th 14 th March at ART ESCAPE LOUNGE. COME ENJOY! SAT-SUN EVENING SPECIAL BARBEQUE STEAKS (veg/non-veg) DONT MISS IT... OPEN TO ALL FREE SCREENING 13TH MARCH SATURDAY EVENING @ 7.30 PM Drumline is a 2002 film directed by Charles Stone III. The screenplay, which was inspired by the life of Dallas Austin (one of the producers of the film) was written by Tina Gordon Chism and Shawn Schepps. The story is about a young drummer from New York, played by Nick Cannon, who enters the fictional Atlanta AT University and bumps heads with the leader of his new school's drum section. Leonard Roberts, Zoe Saldana, and Orlando Jones co-star. 14TH MARCH SUNDAY EVENING @ 7.30 PM MILES IN PARIS Filmed at The Paris Jazz Festival in November 1989 Miles Davis is one of the undisputed legends of jazz music. This excellent live release was filmed in Paris in the late 1980's, near the end of his ground breaking and profoundly influential career. Featuring stellar and impassioned performances of tracks like Human Nature, Tutu, New Blues, and Wrinkle, MILES IN PARIS offers insight into a brilliant artist at the twilight of his reign. 14TH MARCH SUNDAY EVENING @ 9.30 PM The Blues Brothers is a 1980 musical comedy directed by John Landis and starring John Belushi and Dan Aykroyd as Joliet Jake and Elwood Blues, After the release of Jake Blues (John Belushi) from prison, he and his brother Elwood (Dan Aykroyd)go to visit the orphanage where they were raised by nuns.They learn that the church has stopped its support and will sell the place unless the tax on the property is paid within 11 days. The brothers decide to raise the money by putting their blues band back together and staging a big gig. They may be on a mission from God, but they are making enemies everywhere they go.It features musical numbers by RB and soul singers James Brown, Cab Calloway, Aretha Franklin, Ray Charles, and John Lee Hooker. For registrations and reservations contact: Darryl: 9820695272 /9823955038 Vinesh: 9323590051 Venue: Art Escape - Woodstock Resort Waddi Beach, South Benaulim South Goa - 403002. (take the beach road from Trinity Church) www.artescape.in Goanet A-C-E! Arts ~ Culture ~ Entertainment
[Goanet] M.F. Husain: Saint or Sinner?
M.F. Husain: Saint or Sinner? The saga of M.F. Husain, one of India’s best known Art figures, is a cruel reflection of our times and our society’s growing Intolerance. The formidable Artist who has been described by Forbes magazine as the ‘Picasso of India’ has recently been conferred the citizenship of Qatar and is once again in the news. Using the Socratic Q A method, here is my attempt to share my opinions on the controversial Artist and to set a few misgivings about him straight. Is M.F. Husain anti-Hindu? No. M.F. Husain is one of the greatest Artists of modern times and his body of work will speak for itself. Throughout his life, he has been inspired by the richness of Hinduism. He has lived one decade of his life drawing the Ramayana, another decade drawing the Mahabharata. 50,000+ paintings in a career spanning seven decades, a majority of which have been dedicated to Hindu Art, culture and traditions. Before he embarks on a major Painting, he paints a ‘Ganesha’, a form he loves the most and he has drawn hundreds of ‘Ganeshas’ in his career. His painting ‘Mahabharata- The Battle of Ganga and Jamuna’ was sold for an astronomical record price at Christies Auction. He deserves a lot of credit for successfully promoting Hindu Art on the World stage and for creating a huge market for it. Far from being anti-Hindu, one can safely say that Husain is undoubtedly the perfect ‘Poster Boy’ of Hinduism. Is Husain’s Art profane? Whether his Art is stunning or obscene is a matter of perspective. Just as beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder, so too does obscenity. His nude paintings are not vulgar characterizations meant to offend but are sensual abstract depictions where the body parts are not clearly distinguishable. If we call his Paintings vulgar, what do we have to say about all the other sensual sculptures that adorn the Temple walls? Are they vulgar too? Sensual and beautiful- Yes, Vulgar - No! Has Husain insulted Hinduism through his Art? Hindu civilization and culture has always had a significant place for erotic art, where Sex, beauty and sensuality have been celebrated since ancient times. Such sexual, erotic and sensual illustrations can be seen through the Lajja-gouris of Ellora, the images of Modhera, Konark and Khajuraho, the Ragamala paintings from Rajasthan, Mirabai’s love poems on Krishna, etc. The Valmiki Ramayana too is such a sensual piece of literature. You will understand what Hinduism is if you go to the villages and the interiors. There, the Gods are not just feared but are loved, decorated and celebrated. You will see images of Gods made out of coconut shells, petals, flowers and so many other creative and abstract forms. That is what Hinduism is - a living civilization. Hussain’s paintings are mere imitations of the essence and spirit of India’s rich millennial tradition. He has is no way insulted the Hindu religion but has only carried her glorious traditions forward. So why are Hindus opposing Husain’s Art? Husain is an internationally acclaimed Artist, an Artist who has won several National and International honors for the same body of works which many find objectionable today. It is pertinent to note that the paintings which are in the eye of a storm now were drawn few decades back and did the rounds in many villages and exhibitions spread across India without there being even a murmur of protest then. There is a large disconnect between the pluralistic principles of Hinduism and those who oppose Husain’s Art. The opposition one sees today is largely due to the negative campaigning that is being done against the great Artist - by Activists of Political parties who are deliberately misinterpreting his Art, inserting contrary captions and trying to show his paintings in extremely poor light. It is nothing but a systematic campaign of deceit and deception. As for the others, the mind can conceive only what it is programmed to believe. Those who oppose Husain’s Art will learn to appreciate it only if they keep their minds open, not blinded by Ideology or Religion. They must realize that the opposition to his Art is merely a political one – a predatory lust for power. Why has Husain not drawn the Gods of other religions in the nude? If Husain has not drawn nude paintings of other Gods, it is because there is no such tradition in those religions. Moreover, the Artist has not drawn his canvasses to insult Hindu beliefs or sentiments. To use the Artist’s own words, every single drop of paint on them has been done with the deepest of love and devotion. His canvases are thus a rich tribute to Hinduism and Hindus must be proud that here is a Muslim Artist who is promoting their folk, culture and traditions. Each religion has its own strengths and weaknesses. Hinduism’s greatest strength is the vast amount of creative Freedom it gives to its followers. By opposing Husain’s Art, ‘Hindutva’ activists are unfortunately turning this great strength into a weakness and by doing
Re: [Goanet] Dr Oscar Rebello's question to God
Carvalho wrote: There is no principle. There is only the immediacy of survival. The immediacy of the next visa out of Goa, the next Honda city car, the next purchase of a flat, the next budday party and the next wedding. Some times when I'm at a budday party, I get the uncontrollable urge to throw the cake on everyone's face. selma, What on earth is a budday? At first I thought it must be a typo, but you have used the same word twice. In this part of the world, when people have a bud day party, they usually get the munchies. Donuts and cake become a prime craving i.e. as something to eat and not as something to throw around. As far as Dr. Rebello is concerned, boy, I sure am glad that there are people in Goa who can think for themselves. The day may return when people will vote based on their and the politicians political convictions. Right now, Goa has regressed to voting based on religious groupings. This can only lead to chaos. Mervyn1121Lobo __ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer® 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
[Goanet] Ganesha - God of Knowledge and Wisdom (from The Huffington Post)
To Goanet - I have started blogging at The Huffington Post. My first post is this - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rajan-p-parrikar/ganesha---god-of-knowledg_b_492149.html ps: I expect to have other aspects of Goa (churches, temples etc) featured in posts in the coming weeks months. Regards, r
Re: [Goanet] Dev borem korum
Dear Selma, The original phrase, in 895 A.D*. and thereafter, was Godd gibb thee a gode morwene, which was eventually shortened through lip laziness to gode morwene. How do I know this? I was there... Regards, Victor *Or it might even have been in 896 A.D. Or 897. My memory is getting weaker as I age! --- On Tue, 3/9/10, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com Subject: [Goanet] Dev borem korum To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 10:52 AM Dear Victor, This is what you wrote: In England centuries ago it used to be God give you a good morning - I correct my earlier assertion that God and Good do not have a common ethmology. They may have. But the phrase itself was gode morwene and not God give you a good morning. You do see how this like Goan and Goanese. :-) I aim to please. warm regards, Selma
[Goanet] Dev borem konun
Thank you God in Konkni ? Borges bab, it is a tricky question but not to a casteist catholic.i.e. belief in Bharatiya God for being bamon or chardo together with belief in Semitic God. Then the answer is really simple : Devan Devac borem korun.
Re: [Goanet] Jewish Surname
Dear Dr. Barad, You must be as impressed as I am with how much Goanetters know about first century Palestine, etc. Anyway. I will skip Jesus the Christ's surname, but give you the surname of another Jesus who presumably lived before Jesus Christ. He was Jeshu ben Pandira. Its all esoteric material, and Steiner of Anthroposophyhttp://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/EsoChristian/1904p01.html talked about this enity in a 1911 lecture in Leipzig. (Btw, the name Jesus has undergone multiple transliterations). It a bit odd, but today I went to pick up a book by Richard Smoley, The Dice Game of Shiva (recommended by mt friend Madhav Chari from Chennai), but before I got to it--a book on Steiner's lectures, and the Leipzig lecture caught my attention. Such things happens to me often, but lets leave it at that. I believe that it behooves us to be reasonable with each other on Goanet, if we are to maintain some relationship over the next say two decades. My point being that with all our insecurities, it is as though a red flag has been shown to the bulls when one says, But right now I am curious to know the SURNAME of our lord Jesus Christ Even if you are a Christian, the question is a bit jarring. How about, Can someone tell me what was Jesus's surname?, and perhaps also in a separate email. But before that anticipate that in the first place such things are known to a few, very few, and also fewer Catholics read the Bible. So I hope you checked out for yourself on Wiki, etc., or some encyclopedia. Do understand, that this is a suggestion and by now you must know I harbor no ill will towards you or others---although I do get up in arms sometimes for reasons other than encountering difference of I and the Other as opposed to the I, leading to We---related to Ahamkara. Having learnt, and learning from Samkhya, Sanathan Dharma, Zen etc., I really do believe that Indian Christians can too, as well as, there being a lot in western societies that we can all learn from. Anandane raha. Anandit dhrustit jag pahayla milel. Sagla purna honar. venantius j pinto
Re: [Goanet] Dr Oscar Rebello's question to God
-Original Message- From: Carvalho That is exactly what I am saying. By admitting he is an atheist, he is has alienated himself from the Catholic vote bank. RESPONSE: Perhaps you mean voters with Catholic-sounding names some of whom are atheists, agnostics, Born-again, etc, etc...? Some times when I'm at a budday party, I get the uncontrollable urge to throw the cake on everyone's face. RESPONSE: Thanks for the heads-up..will avoid all pahttys that you are attending...:-(( - B
[Goanet] NATIONAL SEMINAR ON “IMPACT OF CLIMAT E CHANGE
2010-03-09
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ST. XAVIER'S COLLEGE OF ARTS, SCIENCE COMMERCE -MAPUSA - GOA - INDIA - 403507 (0832-2262356-www.xavierscollege-goa.com)
NATIONAL SEMINAR ON “IMPACT OF CLIMATE CHANGE” The recently concluded U.G.C. sponsored National Seminar on ‘Impact of Climate Change’ organized by the Department of Physics, St. Xavier’s College, Mapusa, Goa was held on 25th and 26th February 2010 The Chief Guest for the Inaugural Session was Dr. S.R. Shetye, Director of National Institute of Oceanography, Dona Paula. He spoke on the nine indicators that affect our climate and the need to maintain and protect bio-diversity. The Principal of the College, Dr. (Fr) Walter de Sa, welcomed the participants and stressed that the climate is one factor that affects everybody and our need to do away with our selfish attitude and take into our hands to do something positive about our environment. Dr. Luis Alvarinho, from NCAOR, spoke on the topic ‘Polar Climate Change’. He elaborately stressed on the declining ice coverage on the Artic and Antarctica, the melting glaciers and the increase in sea levels. Dr Manish Tiwari, from NCAOR dwelt on the topic ‘Southwest Monsoon Variability during Periods of Past Climatic Changes’. He covered the aspect of monsoons over the Indian subcontinent due to global warming as well of past climatic changes over asia. Dr Runa Antony from NCAOR elaborated on the topic ‘ Biogenic bromine in coastal Antarctic snow and its link to cloud seeding’. She dealt with the aspects of cloud seeding and how bromine generated due to biogenic materials helps in cloud seeding and ultimately precipitation. She also explained that, sulphur is one of the major atmospheric contributors forcing the climate system. Mr. Rajendra Kerker, an eminent Goan environmentalist and teacher, spoke on the topic ‘Goa and Impact of Climate Change’. He dealt with most of the problems regarding climate change and associated problems that might possibly harm the goan region. Dr Ramesh Kumar, from NIO, discussed on the topic ‘ Monsoons : Role of Climate Change’ and how global warming affects the onset and nature of monsoons. Dr M.V. Ramana, from NIO, spoke on the topic ‘Gas hydrate Exploration in Indian offshore areas’. His topic covered aspects of mining and utilization of gas hydrates as alternative to the fast depleting reserves petroleum oils which are environmentally polluting. Dr T. Suresh , from NIO spoke on the topic ‘ Aerosols over Goa’ . He highlighted the f causes of air pollution over Goa and its measurement. Prof. Bhaskar Nayak, Director D.H.E. was the Chief Guest for the valedictory session and gave away the certificates to the participants. Mr Nelson Lobo, associate professor at the Department of Physics proposed the vote of thanks. The two day seminar was well received by all the participants which included teachers and students from all colleges in Goa and also delegates from outside Goa.
[Goanet] ...and the North Goa results
Politically speaking, the results of the Zilla Panchayat elections in North Goa on Tuesday didn’t go in favour of any single political party or grouping even as the opposition BJP seems to have taken a beating. As if the last month’s political rumblings reflected on ZP elections, the Group of 7 MLAs, put up a fairly good show on their own. Health Minsiter Vishwajeet Rane-backed Sattari Yuva Morcha fielded seven candidates of which six won in Sattari and Bicholim taluka. They wrested Mayem from BJP and Usgao-Curti from Ravi Naik. Their candidates emerged victorious and that too with huge margins in Pale, Kudnem, Nagargao and Honda. MGP’s Dhavlikar brothers - Sudin and Deepak- also managed to get their nominees elected from their respective constituencies. Besides, one candidate of the MGP won in Pernem taluka. Unattached MLA and Education Minsiter Babush Monserrate saw to it that his nominee Janu had a smooth sailing in Taleigao while reportedly he had backed one candidate in Santa Cruz who defeated MLA Victoria Fernandes’ candidate. In Tivim, NCP MLA Nilkant Halarnkar proved his popularity by getting his nominee Diana Braganza elected in a triangular contest from Tivim where even a candidate was strongly supported by Dayanand Narvekar. Former BJP legislator Sadanand Tanavde’s candidate failed to do well. Apparently, only four candidates supported by BJP were successful in North Goa. Vishwajeet Rane has said that considering the response of the voters in the ZP polls, the non-Congress, non-BJP groupings would have their president in the new NGZP. COUNTER CLAIMS: While President of Goa Pradesh Congress Committee (GPCC) Subhash Shirodkar claimed victory in 13 constituencies out of 30, the BJP reacted defensively saying polls were not held on political lines. Party President Laxmikant Parsekar tried to rubbish the claim of the Congress. Shirodkar said excluding those won by Sattari Yuva Morcha, the Congress has done well. “We’ll be able to wrest power,” he said. Parsekar said their workers or well-wisher had contested on their own. Nonetheless, he said 7-8 office bearers have won – in both the districts. CONGRESS: Congress MLAs more-or-less succeeded in holding on to their fort as most of the candidates backed by them have won. This was seen in Bardez where both the Dayanand Narvekar-backed candidates Kunda Bagkar (Aldona) and Gupesh Naik (Penha-de-Franca) won the seats while Agnel Fernandes-supported Abelina Menezes retained her seat in Calangute and Jayesh Salgaocar in Reis Magos. Similarly, former transport minister Pandurang Madkaikar got his brother Dhaku elected from Cumbarjua and Vrunda Naik from Chorao. St Andre MLA Francis Silveira worked hard to get his brother Antonio re-elected from St Lawrence constituency. In Pernem, Sports Minister Manohar (Babu) Azgaonkar succeeded in warding off the opposition from the BJP and got his nominees elected. Only two candidates supported by their MLAs in the taluka did well. Party President Laxmikant Parsekar represents Mandrem and Dayanand Sopte Pernem. In Siolim, it was partial success for the opposition party as only one candidate nominated by local MLA Dayanand Mandrekar won while the other lost. Bicholim MLA Rajesh Patnekar with his nominee managed to hold on to Latarbarcem. The big success for the BJP in North was in Saligao. As analysed earlier, the Sunday polls turned out to be an interesting battle of ballots. Dilip Parulekar’s candidate Michael Lobo, despite I-T raid less than a month before the poll, eventually, got the better of architect Tulio D’Souza – the son-in-law of former CM Dr Willy in Saligao constituency. Tulio lost by around 700 votes. Apparently, for the second time, Trajano D’Mello and Salim Shaikh contributed to the defeat of the de Souzas. Former Saligao sarpanch Daya Mandrekar supported by the duo polled around 1500 votes. Meanwhile, sources said in quite a few constituencies (mainly in Bardez and one or two in Tiswadi) money power played an important role to win over voters. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
Re: [Goanet] More on Maqbool Fida Hussain's Hypocrisy
Dear Vasant, Good to hear from you. My point is limited to the fact that her letter contains misinformation, and that many charges made against Husain are unfounded, especially the ones that ascribe sexual and communal meanings to his art. Those who are offended by the three or four verified nude paintings of Hindu deities that he has painted have the right to peacefully protest against him and criticize him. The right to free expression cuts both ways. Cheers, Santosh --- On Tue, 3/9/10, Vasant Baliga vabal...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Santosh, You have suggested that whatever Dr.Raja has stated is false. You may wish to clarify- 1.Has Hussain not painted Hindu deities in an obscene manner and thereby offended Hindu sensibilities?Has he painted any other religious figures or for that matter any other figures like his favourite Madhuri Dixit in the nude? 2.Did he or did he not support the emergency? 3.Does Qatar offer greater democratic freedoms than India? Secularists may defend Hussain and his paintings until the cows come home,but the fact of the matter is that secularism is not a ticket to offending religious sensibilities on a selective basis in the name of creative art. This is what Sri Sri Ravi Shankar has stated- Ravi Shankar flays Husain for nude painting BANGALORE: Spiritual guru Sri Sri Ravi Shankar Monday expressed surprise over the hue and cry over painter M.F. Husain's move to give up Indian citizenship and chided him for painting Indian gods in the nude. While India has a policy of free expression, one cannot accept blatant insult to the heroes of its land. It is the intention behind a man's creativity which is questionable, Ravi Shankar said in a statement. In one of Husain's paintings of Mahatma Gandhi, Karl Marx, Albert Einstein and Hitler, he painted only Hitler nude and said that his way of humiliating a person is to paint him nude. No one has ever sculpted Rama and Sita as nude. Creative expression is always welcome. No country has been as liberal as India... Any nude woman could have been painted by him but calling the women Sita, Lakshmi (and) Saraswati shows his perversion and hatred. Will M.F. Husain show the same creativity and the same spirit with Islamic heroes and would he, then, be able retain his Qatari citizenship? Double standards, Regards Vasant Baliga
[Goanet] Winners speak...
Maria Rebello: My work in Benaulim constituency has helped me to get elected by a margin of over 5000 votes. PWD Minister, Churchill Alemao and my supporters helped to achieve victory. Wilfred D’Sa: I am a four-time Panch member and people have supported me because of my work. I have been supported by Tourism Minister Mickky Pacheco and with his support, will take up work in Nuvem constituency. Maria Miranda: PWD Minister Churchill Alemao and Panchayat Minister, Babu Azgaonkar, besides my supporters helped me to get elected from Davorlim. Veena Lourenco: My husband Bruno, outgoing ZP member J Santano Rodrigues, MLA Reginaldo Lourenco and my supporters all worked hard for my success and win the Curtorim seat. I thank them for working hard for my success. Seema Dias: I feel good that finally the voters of Guirdolim constituency have elected me. I thank Urban Development Minister, Joaquim Alemao, my husband Cleofacio, Panch members and workers for my success. Anthony (Babush) Rodrigues: I will carry out development of Velim constituency with the help of Water Resources Minister, Filipe Neri Rodrigeus. I am an active member of the Congress, I am with Filipe Neri. Filipe Neri has supported by candidature. Sabrina Dias -- The victory is special for me since it has come on my mother’s birthday. I thank Ministers Churchill Alemao and Filipe Neri Rodrigus, besides my supporters who worked for me for my victory in Chinchinim constituency. My supporters hopped from village to village for my victory. Domnick Gaonkar – Power Minister, Alexio Sequeira, PWD Minister, Churchill Alemao, Curtorim MLA Reginaldo Lourenco worked against me in Raia constituency, but the people have elected me. I am not a NCP member, but Tourism Minister, Mickky Pacheco has voluntarily supported my candidature _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
[Goanet] Open letter to J. C. Selma
Oaky J. Colaco you tried your best without any success to give me the surname oif Jesus Christ. My next question to you and SELMA: How come our Goan Christians got their SURNAMEs? I'm equally inquisitive to know the factual reality Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Dr Oscar Rebello's question to God
Dear Mervyn and Bosco, Sheeh, kitem re saiba, one doesn't know the meaning of budday and the other wants to avoid phattys I am attending :-) I really don't go around wasting good cake. You are both invited to my 21st budday birthday party coming up next year :-) take care, selma
[Goanet] Dev borum korun
The original phrase, in 895 A.D*. and thereafter, was Godd gibb thee a gode morwene, which was eventually shortened through lip laziness to gode morwene. How do I know this? I was there... Regards, Victor --- Dear Victor, I can't argue with someone who was there :-) Best, Selma
