[Goanet-News] Goa news for May 19, 2010

2010-05-19 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Goa govt refuses ban on Sanstha till home ministry examines
charge sheet - Daily News  Analysis
ooks-eight-Sanatan-Sanstha-men-for-Goa-blast/articleshow/5942645.cmsusg=AFQjCNHqQwoWTTo2Hj9-8twatiAGB7szUwNIA
books eight Sanatan Sanstha men for Goa blast
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_goa-govt-refuses-ban-on-sanstha-till-home-ministry-examines-charge-sheet_1384676usg=AFQjCNEFVKgkt-jwAkPLe3JULSHU5Hv__A

*** Goa HSSC Results 2010 Goa CET Results 2010 Declared -
Tafreeh123.com
xam-results-2010/usg=AFQjCNHozA2fcBuF0XQyM6-89A4DZQFiMgSSC
Exam Results 2010 For Goa
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://tafreeh123.com/goa-hssc-results-2010-goa-cet-results-2010-declared.htmusg=AFQjCNEFFKb1kBuk5akUfBkigGGt5XqDgw

*** Goa CET Results 2010 (DTE Goa Exam Results 2010) - Online PR
News (press release)
ay-2010  GCET (Goa Common Entrance Test) is conducted by the DTE
(Directorate of Technical Education), Government of Goa. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.onlineprnews.com/news/36143-1274117647-goa-cet-results-2010-dte-goa-exam-results-2010.htmlusg=AFQjCNE5J6AYjjIDaHYfx9QW0MPb0-096A

*** Sesa Goa tumbles as Govt reverses earlier nod - Hindu
Business Line
c-of-Goa-mines-below-ground-water-table-level-official/Article1-545479.aspxusg=AFQjCNFfy4j3TmW1Nadn-KWjfGEZLJ5uPg60
pc of Goa mines below ground water table level: official
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/05/19/stories/2010051953441001.htmusg=AFQjCNHHe0tpj_j-eevzifPowDDm5a1qBQ

*** Katy Perry to get married in Goa? - Hindustan Times
erry-russell-brand-wedding-170510.htmlusg=AFQjCNFh_uRppz4qs6QDGffx-UCdoFwvuwWhere
Is Katy And Russell Heading For Wedding?
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/europe/Katy-Perry-to-get-married-in-Goa/544863/H1-Article1-544677.aspxusg=AFQjCNGJNjJfmG0bMVTCcDMRo9ATSLCgmg

*** Govt appoints flying squads - Times of India
ensitive zones in Goa. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/5946897.cmsusg=AFQjCNFmSqujFwVwV-JMIxaWuXf4VruyWw

*** Goa women's panel to probe 'blouse-ripping' cop - Hindustan
Times
ipping' policeman to be probed by GSCW
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Goa-women-s-panel-to-probe-blouse-ripping-cop/Article1-545264.aspxusg=AFQjCNHTfb4IL7EaMnN17IFyckUedi0m4Q

*** Four teams in I-League relegation zone to know fate on May
28 - Times of India
eague season in the round 26 fixtures ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/football/top-stories/Four-teams-in-I-League-relegation-zone-to-know-fate-on-May-28/articleshow/5946482.cmsusg=AFQjCNEgjf8c_TklonX4nOe-UZnGbZSgUA

*** Goa ups fee for technical education by 10-20% - Times of
India
eats-may-be-increased/articleshow/5942686.cmsusg=AFQjCNHMSGiKLidPlORWd1wi4l4-XNimQA'Engineering
seats may be increased'
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-ups-fee-for-technical-education-by-10-20/articleshow/5942669.cmsusg=AFQjCNEMkNAgGLRAgWL8rg3tWFvjKhcogg

*** Sesa Goa melts down 5.8% - Moneycontrol.com
neycontrol.comSesa Goa touched an intraday high of Rs 390.50 and
an intraday low of Rs 366. At 15:02 hrs the share was quoting at
Rs 366.40, down Rs 22.9, or 5.88%. ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/buzzing-stocks/sesa-goa-melts-down-58_458594.htmlusg=AFQjCNHW1iZbQqw2yxq8kB5ShnFEu_xSOA


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[Goanet-News] ResearchLink: History and the (un)making of identifications in literary representations of Anglo-Indians and Goan Catholics (Marian Josephine Gracias)

2010-05-19 Thread Goanet Reader
History and the (un)making of identifications in literary
representations of Anglo-Indians and Goan Catholics

Gracias, Marian Josephine
2000

This dissertation examines selected literature by and about
Anglo-Indians (Eurasians) and Goan Catholics from India and
the Indian diaspora, focusing on its preoccupation with the
history of these communities as a site of contested
identifications.

Especially polemical are perceptions (due to communalist
stereotypes or internalisation) of Anglo Indians and Goan
Catholics as mimic or intermediary communities who ended up
capitulating to British and/or Portuguese colonialist
structures respectively.

Larger issues for both communities in India and in the
diaspora also involve questions of racial or cultural
hybridity, and the slippage between religion and culture,
particularly the linking of conversion to Christianity with
colonisation, Westernisation, denationalisation, and
non-Indianness.

I argue for a more layered understanding of the concepts of
mimicry, hybridity, and resistance in relation to
identifications from these communities. By choosing
literature set in times of national crisis and historical
change (in India, and in East Africa for the Goan diaspora),
I have been attentive to the varying ways in which literary
characters and narrators confront, project, or elide
contradictions of proximity and difference in the production
of racial, cultural, and national identity.

The main literary texts in the discussion of Anglo-Indian
identifications include John Masters' Bhowani Junction,
Manorama Mathai's Mulligatawny Soup, Stephen Alter's
Neglected Lives and Allan Sealy's The Trotter-Nama. In
these texts, I have examined how the narrative opens up or
circumscribes the agency and racial identifications of
Anglo-Indian characters. As well, I make some references to
Rudyard Kipling's Kim and selected work by Ruskin Bond.

  The central literary texts in the discussion of
  Goan Catholic and diasporic identifications include
  Lambert Mascarenhas' Sorrowing Lies My Land,
  Kiran Nagarkar's Ravan and Eddie, João da Veiga
  Coutinho's A Kind of Absence: Life in the Shadow
  of History, selected writing by damian lopes, and
  Peter Nazareth's In a Brown Mantle and The
  General is Up.

I also dwell in some detail on selected short stories by Lino
Leitão, and Violet Dias Lannoy's Pears from the Willow
Tree. I examine the role of Anglo-Indian and Goan Catholic
women literary characters, making the case that, for the most
part, it is male characters who are given political and
narrative complexity in terms of negotiating colonialism and
nationalism, and that women characters, when central, are
imaged as mediating grounds to advance or block access to
male characters who are competing over nationalist and
colonialist discourses about race and sexuality.

An exception is the poetry of Eunice de Souza where there is
critical reflection on the position of Goan Catholic women.

Where relevant, I draw from particular areas of cultural
studies, postcolonial and feminist theories (including those
dealing with psychoanalysis), and writings about Indian
history and nationalism. Writings from these areas offer
pertinent insights on ambivalence in the production of
subjectivity, and on the construction of Indianness in
relation to arguments on colonialism, gender, caste, class,
secularism, and the religious right (especially the
discourses of Hindutva).

  While the identifications and identity of
  Anglo-Indians and Goan Catholics appear in the
  genre of history, these communities are largely
  absent or peripheral in the area of literary
  analysis, cultural studies, and postcolonial theory
  pertaining to India. Therefore, I hope that a study
  of these communities will contribute to the
  discussion of religious and multiracial
  identifications that is increasingly relevant to
  the field of postcolonial and cultural studies.

https://circle.ubc.ca/handle/2429/12996
Feedback to the scholar: mjgrac...@yahoo.ca


[Goanet] Art should prevail.

2010-05-19 Thread SHRIKANT BARVE
Art should prevail.
Best wishes for Madam Dahanukar.
Election for Bombay Art Society won by Artist panel. Panel backed by MNS lost.

Average presence for periodical election was around 250 but this time 628 
people took part. Artist from Rajasthan and other parts specially came.
Last few years Maharastra Navanirman Sena people had made special efforts to 
control Bombay Art Society. Modetail in Marathi by Kavita Mahajan at  link 
below.  
http://chinhatheblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/blog-post_16.html

Shrikant Vinayak Barve






[Goanet] Golf update -- Damodar take

2010-05-19 Thread tony martin
Is Damodar Shenvi a self-seeking liar?

Is Damodar Shenvi playing the self-appointed referee between the people of
Talpona and the Delhi based Monark Private Limited. Or is he unofficially
doing a paid job for the company? Just a freewheeling doubt.

Even as the members of the Poinguin panchayat including the sarpanch did not
attend the Talpona villagers meet, (may be they were never invited) one
panch Damundar Shenvi made a late appearance and tried hard, though
unnecessarily and unsuccessfully, to convince the locals that the golf
course is the need of the hour for the glory of the village and the well
being of the villagers.

Why? Again just a freewheeling doubt.

Mr Shenvi, while defending the golf course at blessed Talpona, said the
company has already given a written undertaking that they would provide
employment to the locals. “But in a hurry I forget to bring the copy to show
you now” he added.

I don’t understand why Mr Shenvi was in a hurry to attend the meeting
particularly since, on his own admission, he was not invited. He says he was
informed about the meeting by his colleague at work Deu Metri from Talpona.
Why did he have to justify the project to the locals? Does he think it is a
god-sent opportunity that holds the key to the prosperity of the locals. May
be he has some stake in the project. May be. Or may be not. Just a
freewheeling doubt.

Enthused by what could be the content of the letter, when I visited his
place for a copy of the letter (regarding employment of locals) he was not
around but later he came to my place with the letter dated March 27, 2010.
Strangely the letter (copy) that is signed by V M Trehan does not have an
outward number. I wonder if I will even find an inward No. at the panchayat
office.

The letter head simply says Monarch Hotels Limited without any sort of logo
on the mast head.

The Text

Quote

“It will be our pleasure and also our duty to employ the local people of the
village Poinguinim and surrounding areas for our hospitality project at
Talpon.

We assure you of our commitment and continued support for development of
(the) region and *employment of local amenities for business development*.
(Italics mine: what local amenities and whose business development. Just a
freewheeling doubt.)

Wishing you all the best and hoping that people of village poinguinim would
co-operate with us.”

Unquote

A copy of the letter is addressed to Mr. Vikas Desai

Now why would Mr Shenvi keep a copy of the letter addressed to the V P
Poinguinim handy with him at his house. I am sure none of us will have in
our house copies of letters addressed to our office. He certainly didn’t
intend to show it to the people of Talpona because he did not even know
there was going to be a meeting. And even assuming that he knew, what is Mr
Shenvi’s motivation to play the advocate for a Delhi company?

The division bench of the Bombay High Court at Goa has taken suo moto
cognizance of the threat for the turtle nesting sites at Galgibaga from the
proposed bypass road on NH 17.  What about the proposed golf project.

Should we really, against all common sense, force our beautiful land into
the jaws of the Delhi land sharks?

Well for some unsuspecting youth the answer is decided by a few pegs and
some chicken legs while for the others it is the compelling lure of the fast
buck.

Regards

Tony Martin


Re: [Goanet] Blueberrry Hill to Porvorim Hill

2010-05-19 Thread soter

Dear Diana,
Firstly, with due respect I would like to remind you that we have been
liberated from the colonial regime in 1961 and therefore inherited the right
to dissent which arises from our freedom of expression. Telling me to shut
up would  have worked in Salazar's regime and not in Indian democracy. If
conflicting opinions get perceived as sabotage then God save us.
Secondly, we are too small an entity to sabotage the endeavours of powerful
Goan activist stalwarts like you. Please bear with us as we have absolutely
no experience about politics, agitations and police lathis and therefore our
views may seem rubbish to you. You must be appreciated for doing something
to save Goa. We are yet to start doing something besides creating awareness
on Panchayati Raj as claimed by you.
If anyone cannot understand why we keep endeavouring to sabotage (in your
words) then in a democracy we respect people's freedom to clarify.

regards,
Soter




[Goanet] Who is Dean?

2010-05-19 Thread Anthony M Barreto
All drawings and designs are within laws of the land and genuine doubters are 
welcome to check details from my office.
Dean
 
Well, who knows you may be an angel. But who are you beyond 
architect...@mozaic-design.com and you talk about your office. That's funny


Tony Martin 
Copy/Content Writing
http://www.facebook.com/tonymartingoa
Galgibaga, Canacona

 




[Goanet] Foxes, Henhouse, Chickenfeed

2010-05-19 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet -

Dean D'Cruz architecture at mozaic-design.com  wrote:
For Soter, ( and his audience on Goanet )

I have been aware of Soter's tirade against Goa Bachao Abhiyan for a while
now, lashing out at almost all who genuinely work towards a better Goa. I
happen to be his current target and it saddens me to be drawn into
needless e-mail exchanges when there are so many villains and burning issues
to deal with. However I do so to clear the name of Poonam and myself in the
latest attempt at raking up controversy.

We watch daily how corruption destroys our land, illegal mining, police
brutality, unscrupulous builders, garbage, and this man sees it a victory by
'discovering' my name as an architect for a house!

To satisfy people’s curiosity, this is a renovation of a single house for
a client with a Goan wife. His only fault at this point is to have a
muslim  first name and work in Dubai. All drawings and designs are within
laws of the land and genuine doubters are welcome to check details from my
office. The generally distrusting may use RTI before making a mountain out
of a molehill.

I suggest Goanet kindly check such slander to see if it comes supported with
any basis, we are tired of people who simply cry wolf time and again.

Dear Dean D'Cruz,

Where exactly is the slander you accuse Soter of?  You acknowledge
that you are the architect on the project Soter cited.  Which means you
affirm what he wrote.  SO WHERE IS THE SLANDER, big guy?

As for all drawings and designs being within the laws of the land -
Bwahahahahaha.  Nice try, D'Cruz.

Every goddam building project in Goa is within the laws of the land.  
That is because THERE ARE NO LAWS OF THE LAND.

You must think we common folk are not quite as smart as you are.
The law in India is whatever the govt wants it to be.  And what the
govt wants it to be is what the builders who bribe them want it
to be.  

Papers are manipulated, rules bent, changed, and then when all else is 
exhausted there is the ultimate ace up its sleeve - it is called REGULARIZATION.
So one can destroy everything in Goa and still claim that it is within
the laws of the land.  Thank you, Dean D'Cruz, for this nugget of wisdom.

Then you do what every self-respecting fox guarding the henhouse
does: mount the high horse (ah, the joy of mixed metaphors) and 
squirt jets of self-righteous indignation.  

Who are these villains that you and your cohort have thus far held 
to account?  Your Quixotic conquests are not visible to the 
naked eye.  As for burning issues - Goa is burning alright.  Burning 
with all the greed and fraud wrought by the real estate lobby.

Soter is absolutely right.  My own RTI inquiries have shown that
architects from Goa have been enabling the projects while masquerading
as fighters against the construction lobby.  D'Cruz-bab, does the phrase 
conflict of interest mean anything to you?

Warm regards,


r - part of Soter's audience


Re: [Goanet] Slander does not help

2010-05-19 Thread soter

Dear Dean,
Firstly, you have admitted your agencies/partners role in the designing of
the project and therefore  I would be interested to know where the question
of slander arises in me reporting the fact. Whether all is fair and pure is
what the people of Cuncolim will establish in the days to come.

Secondly, you state that,
I happen to be his current target and it saddens me to be drawn into

needless e-mail exchanges when there are so many villains and burning
issues to deal with.

Who are these villains please name them? Who are those who complain about
villains and also share the table with those very villains? Let the people 
of Goa know it.
Is there some thing called ethics in architecture and certain universal 
principles or is

it just the law that determines the right and wrong? Are not those who
exploit the present TCP Act and show the loopholes to their clients, also
villains in the destruction of Goa? Is saving Goa only about hill slopes and
eco-sensitive zones? Why not Goan culture and livelihood sensitive zones?
Should the laws in Goa be enacted so as to only regulate DLF and Rahejas and
not the local scamsters who swamp local inhabitants with buildings all
round, block their access so as to corner them into parting with their land?
I have said it before to some scoundrels and state it again. Soter is not
'bekar' to waste precious time targeting certain elements in GBA. Soter has
not jumped onto government committees and struck consultancy deals. It is
sad that some Goa Bachaos also double as Goa Hatao and this is what compels
us to speak out. If mere reporting of a fact on goanet creates nervousness 
we

cannot help it.

-Soter




Re: [Goanet] We Need To Pray For Our Clergy

2010-05-19 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 18 May 2010 11:11, Freddy Fernandes ffernandes@emaar.ae wrote:

 We Need To Pray For Our Clergy


RESPONSE: Prayers alone will not make amends, nor make for better clergy! We
must and should castigate all who fall out of line. Most of us hold our
clergy in high esteem and it is because of this, we expect much better from
them, than from a lay person.





 -- DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.


[Goanet] Talking Photo: New Fast Track Court in the City

2010-05-19 Thread JoeGoaUk
Talking Photo: New Fast Track Court in the City ?
 
There were 31,042 cases pending in the two district and subordinate courts in 
Goa as on January 1, 2009. 
A majority of these were civil cases
 
In order to clear up the backlog, 
a new City Fast Track Court set up at Panjim.
 
It’s Digambar Govt  efforts to expedite hearings particularly 
in North Goa where there are about 21,000 cases pending.
(South Goa  being over 10,000 cases).
 
In Goa there are about 50 courts (3 fast track)
 
Here is the newest addition
 
City Civil and session court
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4618443130/sizes/l/
 
Also, check this pic  for more details
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4618443130/
 
‘Sotachem sodanch zoit zaum’



joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

for Goa  NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc




[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (19May10)

2010-05-19 Thread alexyz fernandes

**  Museum Week  **

Mr. Victor Hugo Gomes...teacher said to Preserve this Virgin soil of 
Goa...Because the Govt and the Mine Mafia is hell-bent on destroying 
Green Goa!



To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com
Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org


[Goanet] Were colonial Goans, sour grapes?

2010-05-19 Thread Antonio Menezes
FN:  ''But literacy was ( and still is ) regarded as the ability to sign
one's  name.''

Somewhere in South Salcete, there was one bhatkar who owned vast land.
Though he educated
his sons, he himself was an illiterate person. His educated sons apparently
convinced him to
undertake a daily literary activity.  What all he had to do , was to
practise writing his full name
which would not only serve as his signature but also be in the eyes of the
Portuguese officials,
a literate person.  To his fellow villagers, he was simply known as
''assinatura''bhatkar.


[Goanet] Agitation should not go wayward. Lokmat May 19 2010

2010-05-19 Thread SHRIKANT BARVE
Andolan Bharkatu naye,  Agitation should not go wayward. 
http://epaper.lokmat.com/ArticleImage.aspx?article=19_05_2010_004_001mode=1

In today’s (May 19, 2010) editorial Lokamt Marathi daily , although new to Goa, 
but having highest Goan readership has raised a very valid point. 
Demonstrations, agitation are essence of Democracy. Those who lead the 
demonstration should .take every step that agitation does not go wayward due to 
their egoistic and aggressive approach. 
Chief Minister Digambar Kamat has met the delegation of the demonstrator. He 
also gave assurance to look into the matter with due sympathy. He was also 
right to refuse to meet people outside.
It was the duty of the delegation to control the feelings of agitating group. 
Agitators were so violent that they attacked Police and went to the extent that 
few lady constables cloths were tore down, “Kahi Mahila Constabalche kapade 
fadale” and few were injured.  

My comments : 
Democracy is most beautiful gift to law abiding citizens. We must preserve it. 
If we want good governance it is not only duty of Administrator and Politicians 
but agitators should take up most care that agitation in no way take a violent 
turn. 


आंदोलाकांची मजल महिला कॉन्स्टेबळांचे  कपडे फाडण्यापर्यंत जाते हि फार लाजिरवाणी 
गोष्ट आहे.
कायद्याचे पालन करण्यार्या सामान्य जनतेला लोकशाही हे एक वरदान आहे. चांगले शासन 
जर आपल्याला हवे असेल तर ती जबाबदारी फक्त नोकरशाही व राजकारण्यावर टाकून चालणार 
नाही.  आंदोलन कर्त्यांचा म्होरक्यांनी योग्य काळजी घेतली पाहिजे कि आंदोलन 
कोणत्याही परीस्तीतीत हाताबाहेर जाऊ नये. योग्य संयम हाच यशस्वतेचा पाया आहे. 

Shrikant Vinayak Barve






[Goanet] Ek Kovita: Oxe Toren Monis Astat?

2010-05-19 Thread lino dourado
  
Oxe Toren Monis Astat? 
 
 Kavllean, morak porathlem
Mor-mama
Tujim sundor pankham mhaka di
Vir zavn bhonvtam
Moran, kavlleak mhontlem,
Oddechim pankham lailear
Kavllo mor zat’lo?

Undran, hotiak sanglem
Hoti-mama
Tuje bhaile dant mhaka di
Potbhor jevonn chorun khatam
Hotian, undrak mhontlem, 
Mhoje dakhovpache dant
Ani khavpache dant veg-veglle.

Sunnean, makddak vinoylem
Makodd-mama
Hea-tea zhaddancher
Uddneo marunk xikoi
Makddan, sunneank mhontlem,
Eka zagear bosun
Dhoniank visvaxi ravunk yena?
 
 Nustean, kul’lek vicharlem
Kul’le-mummy
Tuka dha payem asun 
Tujean ubean dhanvunk zaina
Kul’len, nusteak zap dili,
Dekhunuch voir sortoleank
Sokoll aptichem kam’ mhojem
 
Lino B. Dourado
(Utodd'dekar)
 

 http://aitaracheokaskuleo.blogspot.com/ 






[Goanet] Fly Goa 1077

2010-05-19 Thread soter
So it is final. Dial 1077 from monday for the flying squad to tackle filling of 
low lying areas and illegal construction on hill slopes. Announcing is one 
thing and implementing is another. All depends on the connectivity of BSNL. If 
you hear All lines on this route are busy Hea marga voileo soglleo line-i 
kamant guntleat then you may keep dialling till the illegality is complete and 
no proof on site.
The catch word is 'illegal'. So if you get permission to fill a low lying area 
or construct on a hill slope it will not be a case for the flying squad. There 
are no base-line maps notified about low lying areas and slope gradients in 
Goa. So it is left to a civil servant to discern what is low lying and a hill 
slope which largely depends on his eyesight and mental frame. 
Any how, let us wait and watch how the government initiative flies in the next 
week. There is no doubt that the benefit of 1077 will be fully utilised by 
citizens.

-Soter


[Goanet] Goa Sudharop: New Board member - AJIT DESAI

2010-05-19 Thread George Pinto
We are very pleased to announce that Ajit Desai has joined the Board of Goa 
Sudharop. Ajit lives in San Francisco Bay Area, California, and frequently 
visits Goa.

Ajit's educational Background:
MBA (Gen’l and Fin’l Management)Harvard Business School   
MSE (Chem Engineering)  Princeton University
B. Tech (Chem Engineering)  IITechnology, Bombay

Ajit was born in Benaulim with his ancestral home in Narve, Bardez. His family 
moved to Mumbai when he was about 5. His father was a teacher. He writes my 
parents gave us a great education and grounding in sound family values. All 
schooling in Bombay Scottish Orphanage Society High School. Got top honours in 
Indian School Certificate, the successor to Senior Cambridge. Then stood 2nd in 
IIT Entrance Exam and entered Chemical Eng Dept at IIT Bombay. Graduated second 
in class, got a scholarship to Princeton.

Ajit is married to Asha nee Kudchadker who was born and raised in Assolna. Her 
father is Dr. Shantadas Kudchadker who practiced in Assolna and has since moved 
to Curchorem. He has two daughters Shoma and Reena. Shoma is an Emergency 
Medicine Physician and Associate Professor at Los Angeles County Hospital - USC 
Medical School. Reena is a Deputy District Attorney in Los Angeles County. Ajit 
loves to travel and his wife Asha loves gardening.

Ajit's career accomplishments are impressive:
Mergers  Acquisitions: Acquired four companies worldwide within a 2 year 
period for MPBio doubling sales. Helped grow WSI from $3mm to $170mm in  Sales 
through 4 acquisitions and organic growth over a five year period.

Business Development: Licensed technology and products, Deal making, Strategic 
Alliances.

General Management: Managing for growth, P  L responsibilities, organization 
skills, people development. Built three organizations from ground up.

International:General Manager of Company in UK. Acquired company in France 
and integrated it with parent organization. Product and Technology marketing in 
Europe and Asia. Business Development in China, India and Singapore.

Industry Experience: 15 years in Medical Industry – Biotechnology, 
Pharmaceuticals, Devices and Diagnostics, Life Science Reagents. 5 years in 
Aerospace and Automotive industry.

Please join us in welcoming Ajit to the Goa Sudharop Board.

Goa Sudharop
www.goasudharop.org


[Goanet] Cabin Trip - Important Update

2010-05-19 Thread Ralph Figueiredo
Hello everyone,  

We have great news! We have received an overwhelming response to the GOA
Cabin trip on September 24-26. Unfortunately, we have to cut off
attendance due to this amazing response. We're at capacity. The site has
very strict rules about head count. And so, any checks received after
today (May 18, 2010) will not be included in the listing. 

Please see the attachment for the names of people whose checks we have
received and who have a cabin confirmed.  

If you are on the attached list, we would like you to please reply only
to colacom...@hotmail.com as soon as possible with the following
details: 

1) Name of the person(s) attending
2) No of Adults 
3) No of Children (under 18) 
4) Contact telephone No. 
5) e-mail address

Please provide the following information to colacom...@hotmail.com
mailto:colacom...@hotmail.com 

We also wanted to inform you that because we have exceeded the minimum
number of people, the camp site requires that we pay an additional
amount for each person above the standard allocated number for the group
site. It is possible that depending on the total number of members, from
your responses to Mira, that we may have to charge an additional (small
fee) amount per cabin. Once we receive the above responses from all of
you attending, we should be able to estimate the additional amount and
will let you know accordingly. 

We will provide details regarding food and other events in the next few
weeks. 

THANK YOU for your responses and sending in your checks so quickly. We
appreciate the support and look forward to another fun GOA event. 



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Re: [Goanet] Fred on Bleddy Goans.. and all that

2010-05-19 Thread Eugene Correia
Reading Fred's analysis of Godfrey Pereira's Bleddy piece, it seems to to me 
that Fred has struggled to find the right words to describe it. He has labeled 
it, albeit half-heartedly, as viral marketing, a missive and a wake-up 
call.
 To me the piece is nothing but Godfrey's angst against the prevailing 
conditions in which Goa finds itself today. Not just Godfrey but anyone 
returning to Goa after two decades will be shocked and angry to see the 
changes, most of it for the worst. There are bright spots such widened roads, 
etc. But, by and large, the deterioration of Goa's beaches, its cities and some 
villages because of the influx of migrants and because of the state is 
witnessing a tourist bonanza is an eyesore
 I see Godfrey's piece as a slap-in-the-rear for Goans to move foward and save 
their state from further deterioration. The piece perhaps served as pen-prick 
into the naked buns of khasti-clad Goans, and it perhaps hurt more since it 
came from a non-Goan.
 People from outside Goa have been mooning over Goa more than Goans themselves. 
Those who live in Goa has taken it for granted, a sin we all commit when we are 
too comfortable with the surroundings. Looking at Goa from a distance and 
having been to Goa very often during my stay in Dubai, I saw that the changes 
are part of an economic upheaval. The democratic forces are also in action with 
NGOs and other village-based groups taking up arms and fighting as hard they 
can to stop further changes in the name of development. Now development itself 
is a controversial word. How best to develop Goa? Nobody seems to have the 
answers. Some would want Goa to be free of polluting industries or maybe have 
industries that have passed environmental safeguards.
 Goa is going downhill. And perhaps it would need the hands of all to push it 
up or prevent it sliding further down, just as we used to push the cranky old 
Camiao (spelling?) when it would suddenly stop midway on its route from the 
villages to the cities. Goa is a new Camiao but its wheels are greased with 
money, thanks to the corrupt politicians and the corrupt businessmen.
I don't understand why Godfrey is hard on Goan women and why he is angry that 
they send their sons to foreign countries. How much difference would it had 
been if these sons had stayed in Goa to fight Goa's cause? Maybe for someone 
like Godfrey who left Mumbai to USA for the same reason of leading a good life 
or earning more money, Goans working in the Middle East are feeding their 
families and sending their children to schools back home.
Is it then a sin to sweat in the Gulf sun to earn more money? Nationalistic 
passion is one thing, putting bread on the table is another. Perhaps Godfrey 
should leave the USA and join his community is fighting Essel in Borovli. 
Easier said than done.
Fred agrees with Godfrey that Goans are to be blamed  for what has happened and 
keeps on happening in Goa or to Goa.  Things happening in Goa are not 
mysterious; they don't happen in a vacuum. The development, whether good, bad 
or lopsided, is there for all to see and take into account.
From a developmental perspective, Fred takes an unwarranted leap into the 
dirty world of race and caste politics. For God's sake, oophs, for Goa's sake, 
let's not extend the points made by Godfrey and give it racial undertones. 
Goans not  trusting  each other or the Catholic, the Hindu or the Muslim not 
trusting each other and not coming together for our long-term interest are 
not reasons for Goa's environmental problems, the focus of Godfrey's piece.
No expat Goan worth his salt will propose that Goa remains in its 
picture-postcard state. We expat Goans, like Goa-based or India-based Goans, 
are concerned, and would want to see a good balance between new development and 
retaining of age-old institutions and habitat that holds our heritage and 
culture.
 If expat Goans raise their voices, the local Goans hit back saying if we want 
to do something in Goa we should come to Goa and not just offer advice from 
foreign shores. Expat Goans are caught in a Catch-22 situation.
When Fred says skyline is important he means perhaps that Goa should not have 
high-rise buildings or any monstrous edifice that would prevent Goans from 
getting a clear view of the sun, the moon or the stars.
True, Godfrey's piece had a mixed reaction. I was one who felt he was not fully 
aware of some of the campaigns Goans have launched. Some of these campaigns 
have gained positive results, some have failed and some are sill being carried 
on. Godfrey is reinforcing the stereotype that Goans are lazy by his use of the 
much-loved as well as much-maligned word, susegad. I have had many East Indian 
friends and have gone into East Indian villages and forgive me for saying that 
Goans and East Indians share the trait of being laid-back. Like Goans, East 
Indians love the bottle. No wonder sometimes when Bollywood portrays a Catholic 
male character who is drinking to 

[Goanet] Daily Grook #702

2010-05-19 Thread Francis Rodrigues

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Re: [Goanet] Blueberrry Hill to Porvorim Hill

2010-05-19 Thread edpinto
Ok Soter, in the light of your self confessed inexperienced we understand. I 
guess like all of us, you will learn as you go along in life.

Diana


   reply-type=original
 
 Dear Diana,
 Firstly, with due respect I would like to remind you that we have been
 liberated from the colonial regime in 1961 and therefore inherited the right
 to dissent which arises from our freedom of expression. Telling me to shut
 up would  have worked in Salazar's regime and not in Indian democracy. If
 conflicting opinions get perceived as sabotage then God save us.
 Secondly, we are too small an entity to sabotage the endeavours of powerful
 Goan activist stalwarts like you. Please bear with us as we have absolutely
 no experience about politics, agitations and police lathis and therefore our
 views may seem rubbish to you. You must be appreciated for doing something
 to save Goa. We are yet to start doing something besides creating awareness
 on Panchayati Raj as claimed by you.
 If anyone cannot understand why we keep endeavouring to sabotage (in your
 words) then in a democracy we respect people's freedom to clarify.
 
 regards,
 Soter
 
 
 
 
 --
 



[Goanet] Another pic - how dare you..

2010-05-19 Thread JoeGoaUk
Another pic  - How dare you..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/4620388709/






[Goanet] Konkani Liberation Convention

2010-05-19 Thread Ancy D'Souza
Sir,
Kindly give publicity to the following press note.
thanking you,

Marcel M D'Souza
Convenor, Ad hoc Sutke Samithi, Mangalore.
9448627490
GENESIS, Ist Main, 4th Cross,
Subhasnagar, Pandeshwar,
MANGALORE - 575 001


PRESS NOTE

History has been cruel to the Konkani people.  For reasons as varied
as natural calamities, political oppression and cultural suppression,
Konkanis have had to suffer many a migration, settling in various
regions of the west coast of India. Through centuries, the language
came to acquire many more varieties than an average Indian language,
with regard to the number of dialects, scripts, customs and
traditions.  This variety has made Konkani beautiful and unique.

While the time-tested and successful mantra of India’s unity – namely
– ‘unity in diversity’ should have been also Konkani’s mantra for
unity, a small minority of Konkanis have defeated all efforts towards
unity, by attempting to thrust their lipi variety on all others and in
the bargain have tried to destroy all other varieties that exist.

They have, time and again, declared that the Devnagari Lipi is the
only true lipi for Konkani and that unity among Konkanis can be
achieved only if everyone gave-up their lipi and adopted the Devnagari
lipi.  In pursuance of this fascist policy –

they have established the All India Konkani Parishad and made it an
exclusive club of ‘Devnagari Wadis’;
they have taken over the Konkani Advisory Board of the Kendr Sahitya
Akademi and have ensured that Konkani literature only in the Devnagari
lipi is given the Sahitya Akademi Awards;
mischievously, added the clause ‘as written in Devnagari’ in the
Language Act of Goa;
have unsuccessfully, tried to confuse the Govt. of Karnataka while
introducing Konkani in the school curriculum, in Karnataka;
above all, in the name of unity, have succeeded in dividing the
Konkanis through their ‘script politics’ and have done irreparable
damage to Konkani literature.

The eminent Konkani Litterateur Shri Edwin J. F. D’souza, who is one
of the 2 General Council members for Konkani at the Sahitya Akademi,
has now taken-up the issue of the wrong policy that the Akademi has
been practising – namely giving awards to a script and not to the
language – at the highest level and the matter has now been referred
to the ‘Language Development Board of India’ for resolution.  We are
hopeful that, at long last, justice will be done.

An Ad-hoc Committee consisting of Konkani litterateurs/activists has
been formed to pursue this issue.  The Ad-hoc Committee has convened a
Convention called ‘Suttke Samaavesh’ (Liberation Convention) to
discuss this grave issue and chalk-out a plan of action to liberate
Konkani from such damaging policies.  The Convention will be held on
Sunday, May 23, 2010, at St. Aloysius College Auditorium, from 10am to
4 pm.  Delegates from Goa, Mumbai, Bangalore, Mysore, Kerela and from
coastal Karnataka will be participating.  ‘Unity in Diversity’ will be
the motto of the Convention – as against the ‘one script’ politics
that has ruled Konkani all these years.


[Goanet] ResearchLink: History and the (un)making of identifications in literary representations of Anglo-Indians and Goan Catholics (Marian Josephine Gracias)

2010-05-19 Thread Goanet Reader
History and the (un)making of identifications in literary
representations of Anglo-Indians and Goan Catholics

Gracias, Marian Josephine
2000

This dissertation examines selected literature by and about
Anglo-Indians (Eurasians) and Goan Catholics from India and
the Indian diaspora, focusing on its preoccupation with the
history of these communities as a site of contested
identifications.

Especially polemical are perceptions (due to communalist
stereotypes or internalisation) of Anglo Indians and Goan
Catholics as mimic or intermediary communities who ended up
capitulating to British and/or Portuguese colonialist
structures respectively.

Larger issues for both communities in India and in the
diaspora also involve questions of racial or cultural
hybridity, and the slippage between religion and culture,
particularly the linking of conversion to Christianity with
colonisation, Westernisation, denationalisation, and
non-Indianness.

I argue for a more layered understanding of the concepts of
mimicry, hybridity, and resistance in relation to
identifications from these communities. By choosing
literature set in times of national crisis and historical
change (in India, and in East Africa for the Goan diaspora),
I have been attentive to the varying ways in which literary
characters and narrators confront, project, or elide
contradictions of proximity and difference in the production
of racial, cultural, and national identity.

The main literary texts in the discussion of Anglo-Indian
identifications include John Masters' Bhowani Junction,
Manorama Mathai's Mulligatawny Soup, Stephen Alter's
Neglected Lives and Allan Sealy's The Trotter-Nama. In
these texts, I have examined how the narrative opens up or
circumscribes the agency and racial identifications of
Anglo-Indian characters. As well, I make some references to
Rudyard Kipling's Kim and selected work by Ruskin Bond.

  The central literary texts in the discussion of
  Goan Catholic and diasporic identifications include
  Lambert Mascarenhas' Sorrowing Lies My Land,
  Kiran Nagarkar's Ravan and Eddie, João da Veiga
  Coutinho's A Kind of Absence: Life in the Shadow
  of History, selected writing by damian lopes, and
  Peter Nazareth's In a Brown Mantle and The
  General is Up.

I also dwell in some detail on selected short stories by Lino
Leitão, and Violet Dias Lannoy's Pears from the Willow
Tree. I examine the role of Anglo-Indian and Goan Catholic
women literary characters, making the case that, for the most
part, it is male characters who are given political and
narrative complexity in terms of negotiating colonialism and
nationalism, and that women characters, when central, are
imaged as mediating grounds to advance or block access to
male characters who are competing over nationalist and
colonialist discourses about race and sexuality.

An exception is the poetry of Eunice de Souza where there is
critical reflection on the position of Goan Catholic women.

Where relevant, I draw from particular areas of cultural
studies, postcolonial and feminist theories (including those
dealing with psychoanalysis), and writings about Indian
history and nationalism. Writings from these areas offer
pertinent insights on ambivalence in the production of
subjectivity, and on the construction of Indianness in
relation to arguments on colonialism, gender, caste, class,
secularism, and the religious right (especially the
discourses of Hindutva).

  While the identifications and identity of
  Anglo-Indians and Goan Catholics appear in the
  genre of history, these communities are largely
  absent or peripheral in the area of literary
  analysis, cultural studies, and postcolonial theory
  pertaining to India. Therefore, I hope that a study
  of these communities will contribute to the
  discussion of religious and multiracial
  identifications that is increasingly relevant to
  the field of postcolonial and cultural studies.

https://circle.ubc.ca/handle/2429/12996
Feedback to the scholar: mjgrac...@yahoo.ca


Re: [Goanet] Another pic - how dare you..

2010-05-19 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 19 May 2010 08:11, JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Another pic  - How dare you..
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/4620388709/




 COMMENT: Thanks to the pic posted, the woman can now be charged with
assault on a Policeman


-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.


Re: [Goanet] Goa Sudharop: New Board member - AJIT DESAI

2010-05-19 Thread Gabe Menezes
Congratulations, on recruiting an accomplished Ajit Desai to join the Board
of Goa Sudharop.



On 19 May 2010 01:52, George Pinto georgejpi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 We are very pleased to announce that Ajit Desai has joined the Board of Goa
 Sudharop. Ajit lives in San Francisco Bay Area, California, and frequently
 visits Goa.

 Ajit's educational Background:
 MBA (Gen’l and Fin’l Management)Harvard Business School
 MSE (Chem Engineering)  Princeton University
 B. Tech (Chem Engineering)  IITechnology, Bombay

 Ajit was born in Benaulim with his ancestral home in Narve, Bardez. His
 family moved to Mumbai when he was about 5. His father was a teacher. He
 writes my parents gave us a great education and grounding in sound family
 values. All schooling in Bombay Scottish Orphanage Society High School. Got
 top honours in Indian School Certificate, the successor to Senior Cambridge.
 Then stood 2nd in IIT Entrance Exam and entered Chemical Eng Dept at IIT
 Bombay. Graduated second in class, got a scholarship to Princeton.

 Goa Sudharop
 www.goasudharop.org




-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.


[Goanet] [JudeSundayReflections] Pentecost Sunday

2010-05-19 Thread Jude Botelho
16-May-2010

Dear Friend,

Our common everyday experience tells us that unless we are connected to a 
source there is no power or life. We may have the best cell phone but it is 
useless without the connection, we may have the best of lights and fans but 
without the electrical connection nothing happens. We may have the costliest TV 
set but it remains lifeless unless we have an activated connection. We may use 
a lot of words but we do not communicate unless we are understood. Have we a 
connection with our God? We are promised a life-connection in the Holy Spirit. 
Let’s come alive with His Spirit this weekend! Fr. Jude

Sunday Reflections: Pentecost Sunday ‘Send forth your Spirit! Renew the earth!’ 
23-May-2010
Acts 2: 1-11                    1 Corinthians 12: 3-7, 12-13                    
John 20: 19-23

Today’s first reading gives a dramatic description of the first Pentecost 
experience. Pentecost marks the birthday of the Church. The disciples had 
gathered in one room when suddenly the Spirit descended upon them in the form 
of tongues of fire, and the fearful band of apostles were transformed into a 
community of fearless faithful believers and evangelizers. They were no longer 
the same; instead of hiding to protect themselves they go out fearlessly to 
proclaim the good news, no matter what the cost or consequences. They live in 
the Spirit and they are now led by the Spirit to proclaim in life and death the 
good news.

Film: ‘Being John Malkovich’ -1999
In the very strange 1999 surrealist movie Being John Malkovich, someone 
discovers a portal into Malkovich's mind, enabling visitors to see and 
experience things through his body and to influence his actions. He becomes 
aware of what's happening and finds the portal himself. At the climax of the 
movie, there is a bizarre but powerful scene when he enters the portal, being 
swept down a dark tunnel with a roaring sound to emerge as a 
participant/observer in his own world. He discovers that everyone has his face 
and his voice, and every word spoken is his name. Connections with the 
Pentecost story: - the paradox of the creator entering his own creation by an 
unexplainable power; - the potential of the portal to connect people in an 
unprecedented kind of indwelling; - the portal is exploited by those who find 
it - selling access, allowing it to be used to violate someone's integrity - 
reminds me of Simon the Sorcerer (Acts 8), and all who abuse the gift of
 the Spirit for their own ends or to manipulate others. - seeing the face of 
Malkovich everywhere reminds me of the Spirit making Jesus present through us 
in a new and all-encompassing way. We are recognisably Christlike, though still 
ourselves, and all we say and do is 'in his name'. It's a frightening moment in 
the movie, because Malkovich has no wish to become omnipresent as a 
Christ-figure, but the image is powerful.
From film insights by Marnie Barrel in ‘The Text this Week’

In today’s Gospel Jesus comes to his disciples on the first day of the week to 
begin a new chapter in their lives. The disciples out of fear had barricaded 
themselves within closed doors for fear of the Jews. Jesus breaks through their 
defences and comes to them and His first greeting is “Peace be with you!” 
Pentecost, meaning fiftieth day, was originally a Jewish feast that marked the 
harvest festival. The Jews commemorated the grain harvest at this feast. 
Pentecost commemorated the fruit of the harvest, the fruit of the Spirit given 
to us at Easter. The fruits of the Spirit are peace, joy, patience, kindness, 
generosity, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. But greater than all 
these gifts is the ‘first fruit’ of the harvest, the Holy Spirit. The gospel 
depicts Jesus giving the first fruit of the spirit to his disciples. Jesus 
‘breathed’ on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit” The disciples were 
filled with Joy. They also
 received the forgiveness of their sins and were empowered to go out and share 
the spirit of reconciliation with others. The gift of the Spirit was the gift 
of reconciliation binding them together with God and with one another. While 
renewing his promise of sending the spirit, Jesus always stresses obedience as 
a condition for receiving the spirit. “As the father has sent me, so I am 
sending you. I came to do the will of him who sent me…if you love me you will 
obey me…” The channel that links us to the spirit is obedience!

“Pentecost: the Spirit of God poured out as gift on the apostles made them, who 
had cowered indoors in terror, into a great people, jubilantly singing God’s 
praises. Here indeed is the Church, a new humanity, alive with a new breath, 
telling the world about a new, undreamed of, crowning happiness. Good news 
about the forgiveness of sin, news about what eye had never seen, nor ear 
heard, nor had man’s heart hitherto experienced. This is not a time for fear, 
for withdrawal into oneself; rather it is the time for the Spirit to 

[Goanet] AMENDING THE GOA TOWN COUNTRY PLANNING ACT

2010-05-19 Thread Aires Rodrigues
It is good that the Goa Government has decided to include some legal experts
on the proposed committee to suggest amendments to the Town and Country
Planning Act. It would however be very improper to include on this committee
advocates who have represented the interests of land sharks including the
promoters of controversial mega projects and SEZ’s. Such legal experts on
the Committee should make full disclosure if they have represented or
continue to represent builders, real-estate developers, SEZ promoters, etc.

The Government should instead seek the guidance of some distinguished former
Advocate Generals and some designated senior advocates. The assistance of
some retired District and High Court Judges could also be sought. The input
of some senior professors of our two law colleges may also come handy.

It is high time our Governor Dr. S.S.Sidhu and Chief Minister Digambar Kamat
realize that many problems our State is currently is plagued with including
the RP 2021 fiasco could be resolved once Goa get’s an honest, upright and
competent Advocate General.

Aires Rodrigues
Ribandar


[Goanet] Talking Photos: Drums for sale, Junta House, Fidalgo, Inox, Poltodcho Munis etc

2010-05-19 Thread JoeGoaUk
Talking Photos: Drums for sale, Junta House, Fidalgo, Inox, Poltodcho Munis etc
 
Drums for sale - Rs.450 only
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4614400391/sizes/l/

Junta House
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4616132410/sizes/l/
 
Fidalgo
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4615519159/sizes/l/

Inox – No one except
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4618443504/sizes/l/
another
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4621204664/sizes/l/

Poltodcho munis – Daily 2 shows (not at Inox)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr4/4621201114/

at Miramar Circle
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4607523918/


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[Goanet] 60% of Goa's mining is below ground water table

2010-05-19 Thread sebastian Rodrigues


60% of Goa's mining is going on under the ground water table according 
to the top official in Ministry of Environment and Forest South zone 
office in Bangalore Ms Sarita. She was speaking at the joint meeting in 
Goa International Centre, Dona Paula between Government officials, 
Mining companies and various groups protesting against open cast mining 
in Goa. The gathering was called by the Union Ministry of Environment 
and Forest to find the solutions over wide ranging controversies related
 to mining industry in Goa.

This industry is in the middle of 
intense criticisms from wide range of quarters for taking Goa toward 
desertification by ruining its Forests and Water sources. These 
allegations got confirmed yesterday when Ms Sarita disclosed publicly 
that the Map of Minerals and Map of Forest matches for India and it 
ought to be a policy decision as to diversion of forest for mining 
purpose.

With her disclosures the myth of sustainable mining got 
busted. Both mining companies as well as few government officials were 
advocating 'sustainable mining'.

There was lots of discussion on 
legality of mines as the representative of the Goa State department of 
Mines and Geology A.T. D'souza argued that all the mines in Goa are 
legal under one law or the other. Representative of Goa Mineral Ore 
Exporters Association Glen projected that the mining industry in Goa is 
concerned about the illegal mining. However during discussions when he 
was asked to identify illegal mines in Goa by Sebastian Rodrigues and 
Fr. Maverick Fernandes he had no reply to offer and maintained silence. 
Perhaps his homework was incomplete. Later it emerged from discussion 
that illegal mines are those that do not posses Environmental Clearances
 from Ministry of Environment and Forest (MoEF) according to case law in
 force.

Earlier number of points that are objectionable regarding
 mining industry in Goa was placed before the gathering of nearly 60 
people. Carmen Miranda from London, Dr. Claude Alvares of Goa Foundaation, 
Shankar Jog from Sancorda, Dilip Hegde from Quepem, Ramesh 
Gauns from Bicholim, Cheryl de Souza from Maina - Quepem, Rama Velip 
from Colamb, Anthony D'Silva from Ambelim, Shamsunder Naik from 
Advalpal, Rajendra Kerker from Keri-Sattari and Advocate Norma Alvares 
spoke at the meeting pin pointing various gross illegalities of mining 
industry in Goa.

Chief Conservator of Forests (Central), Mr. K.S 
Reddy took the initiative to invite the participants and acknowledged 
the role of Carmen Miranda and Dr.Claude Alvares in pursuing this idea 
of a meeting. He said in his introductory remarks that NGOs in Goa are 
looking at the mining industry in holistic terms rather than at 
individual mines. Secondly they were looking at mining industry over a 
longer period of time in terms of its implications and consequence for 
ecology.

Dr. Claude Alvares asked Mr. Reddy to take action on 
various violations of law recorded by the government committee headed by
 Goa Chief Conservator of Forest, Mr. Shashi Kumar in his visits to 54 
mines. He said MoEF has granted Environmental Clearances for 130 mines 
in Goa and actual number of mines actually operating cross the 150 mark.

Cheryl
 de Souza said that various wild animals like monkeys are attacking her 
horticultural farm in Maina because of mining nearby has destroyed 
forest.

The issue of reckless driving of mining trucks also came 
up for discussions. 'If State cannot deal with truck drivers on roads, 
how will it deal with Anil Agarwal of Vedanta?' Dr. Alvares questioned.

The
 most number of public criticism were against department of Mines and 
Geology for their partisan role. 'There are whole lot of incompetent 
bunch of people in Department of Mines and Geology. They do not do their
 job. Beginning with the director Lolienkar their salaries must be 
withheld' Dr. Alvares remarked.

Advocate Norma Alvares who has 
been handling mining cases in High Court for the past 20 years said that
 State must have independent monitoring mechanism and not rely upon the 
periodic compliance reports and EIA reports prepared by mining companies
 alone.

Mining companies in their response had no response to any
 of the charges leveled against them and spoke through Glen of Goa 
Mineral Ore Exporters Association and Sachin Tendulkar of Goa Mineral 
Foundation. They highlighted some of the charity works they are doing in
 mining belt and calling it Corporate Social responsibility. They played
 video of 15 minutes duration that was objected to by Carmen Miranda as 
not dealing with the questions raised on mining and trying to divert the
 issues involved. One of the scenes on the pictures is about training of
 youth in technical skills by Fomentos and and how these youth are 
absorbed in their own mining company! Another scene was about service of
 water supply to mining affected villages by mining companies in 
tankers. Their film however misses the point that it the same 

[Goanet] We Need To Pray For Our Clergy

2010-05-19 Thread Freddy Fernandes
In responseto:

Message: 1

Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 17:42:37 +0100

From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: [Goanet] We Need To Pray For Our Clergy

 

Yes, you are absolutely right Gabe, the guilty should be punished and there are
no two ways about it, but as Christians is it not our moral duty to pray for our
Clergy ? If you believe in the power of prayers, prayers can help us become
better people, the secret of prayer is pray for others more than one prays for
himself, only then the results will be there for everyone to see. 

 

May God enlighten us all

 

Freddy Agnelo Fernandes


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Re: [Goanet] Another pic - How dare you..

2010-05-19 Thread JoeGoaUk
Thanks Gabe,
 
Fyi,
Counter charge…
 
The Goa State Commission for women (GSCW) will probe allegations 
that the police Inspector  had molested an agitating woman at Porvorim on 
Monday by ripping off her blouse.
“We will conduct an enquiry into the incident and then decide on the future 
course 
of action. I have called a meeting of the members for the same” 
said Chairperson of the state commission Ezilda Sapeco.

Olinda Pereira, 48, had alleged that she was manhandled and molested 
by Porvorim PI Devendra Gad, who also tore off the sleeves of her blouse. 
(TOI dtd 19/5/100)

Torn sleeve can be seen here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/4618033575/
 
This pic reminds me of a Bollywood film/song (1973)
JEISE KO TAISA MILA, Disshumm
KAISA MAZA AYA  Disshumm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/4618646874/

Quote:
On 19 May 2010 08:11, JoeGoaUk joegoauk at yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Another pic  - How dare you..
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/4620388709/
COMMENT: Thanks to the pic posted, the woman can now be charged with
assault on a Policeman

song/film clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn5GPABpXuY


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For Hospital, Police, Fire etc




[Goanet] Hey You Goan People Why Have You Forsaken Me ?

2010-05-19 Thread Freddy Fernandes
Hey You Goan People Why Have You Forsaken Me ? 

 

As some of the Activists in Goa were busy arranging the meeting at Blueberry,
the electronic media was busy spreading the news about the meeting, hopes were
high, it did not matter, who initiated the meeting,  it did not matter who the
speakers were, nor did their stature matter, the only thing that mattered was
the unity of Goans in the face of adversity. It was indeed a good call but what
turned out was much to be desired. out of over a million Goans, not even a few
hundreds thought it was wise to attend the meeting, just a mere hundred odd
people !! Is this the way to save Goa ? Mother Goa calls on each one of us Hey,
you Goan people, why have you forsaken me ?

 

I am sure Digu bab and his contemporaries must have had a hearty laugh, as the
expected roar of a lion turned into a mere meow of a cat. With just a hat full,
did anyone think that Digu bab would be shaking in his pants ? I am sure our
erstwhile crooks must have been celebrating thinking about the lack of support
the movement had, they must be surely fancying their chances at the next
election. I am sure that was the reason why Digu baba did not take the rally
seriously. Mother Goa calls on each one of us Hey, you Goan people why have you
forsaken me ?

 

In coastal Goa and the eastern border of Goa, Goans have been subjected to such
ridicule that it's become a do or die situation for survival, and still our
activists could muster just a hundred odd supporters. How can just a hundred odd
gather courage and strength to join the rally, when the whole of Goa is up in
arms ?  There is definitely something oddly wrong with the activism in Goa or
the people have given up all hope. Mother Goa calls on each one of us Hey you
Goan people, why have you forsaken me ?

 

For any movement to succeed, the movement has to attain a momentum and that
momentum is attained by mass participation. What happened during the Opinion
Poll ? What happened during the Konkanni movement ? Don't we know, what was the
cause of success of these movements ? Unity of Goans, was the key component to
success, no matter what caste, creed or status we were, we fought as Goans,
wanting to preserve our identity. 

 

What do we see today ? Our Goan Identity is surely eroding away at a breakneck
pace and what do we bleedy Goans do ? Why me ? Let someone else fight for our
cause, and this attitude down the decades has brought us all the misery that we
are mired in today. Even though we are armed with the knowledge of the enormity
of the abhorrent state of affairs in Goa, we still fail to fathom the
consequences that await us at our very doorstep. Inaction against the
perpetrator would amount to an affront to our suffering Goan brothers and
sisters. Mother Goa calls on each one of us Hey, you Goan people, why have you
forsaken me ?

 

Are we Goans just by birth or are we Goans by blood ? It's time to make
ourselves counted in the fight to preserve Goa and our Goan Identity, the only
way to achieve it, is either through a mass movement or by getting rid of this
corrupt Government and replacing it with a competent one. It not just enough to
say I love Goa or Save Goa, more than words deeds are important, participate in
large numbers and support the Save Goa movement, so that, Mother Goa will not
have to ever say, Hey, you bleedy Goan people, why have you forsaken me ?

 

Freddy Agnelo Fernandes


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[Goanet] Goan Welfare Society Announces Scholarship in Goa

2010-05-19 Thread CAJETAN DE

Goan Welfare Society Announces Scholarship
 
The GWS Annual scholarship Awards for top ranking Goan students, will be 
awarded to students of Standard X who secure the highest and second highest 
aggregate marks at the examination conducted in Goa- April 2010.
 
The GWS awards are donated by Mr.   Mrs. Sam Alphonso – Patron member of the 
Goan Welfare Society.
 
Only Students of Goan origin are eligible to apply for the awards.. All those 
who qualify for the awards are requested to submit their application along with 
photocopies of marks sheet certified by their school authorities, copies of 
their passport, copies of their birth certificate and that of their parents, in 
proof of their origin addressed to Alex Wilson Coelho, President of Goan 
Welfare Society, P.O.Box 1335 Safat 13014 – Kuwait within two weeks from the 
date of declaration of the results 2010. The application may be sent by post or 
hand delivered to any of the new GWS managing committee members as per the 
convenience of the students.
 
The GWS awards are instituted as a goodwill gesture in order to encourage goan 
students to do well in their academic career.
 
We wish to convey our best wishes to all aspiring students – Good Luck to all.
 
For further information please contact Tel: 22429435 or 67065878 after 5pm or 
email: goanwelfaresoci...@gmail.com





[Goanet] Communidade plots available to Assagao Gaonkars.

2010-05-19 Thread rui nuvo
To all Assagao Gaonkars, the last date for applications for Assagao
Communidade plots on sale is 15th June 2010.

I thought that the above information may be of value to some of you in more
ways then one.

There is a lot more information that you will need to know. I can be
contacted at this address rui.n...@gmail.com.


[Goanet] nice development

2010-05-19 Thread Joao Barros-Pereira
Goa has more casinos than Las Vegas, I read somewhere. I don't know a thing
about casinos (on land or water) but I was surprised to learn this fact as
it shows that we are even more developed than Las Vegas! Goa as No. 1?
Unfortunately, there is a footnote. The casinos have been spewing raw sewage
into the river which in turn is eaten by the fish and then by the wealthy
folks residing in Panaji and its environs. Non-Panaji residents will have to
be content with fish which eat chemical pollutants, I guess. Anyway, I'm
curious to know if the fish taste better? In the old days before the Age of
Sulab and flush toilets, pigs would do the work of the fish. My friend who
swears by the taste of the sausages of the the pre-sewage pigs is willing to
bet his last rupee that sausages made from farm pigs don't taste as good! Is
it true of fish-curry? Does the shit in shit-kodi have a deeper semantic
meaning and has its fame and flavor travelled worldwide? Celebrate life!


[Goanet] Alternative to Violence

2010-05-19 Thread Arwin Mesquita
The recent incident at Porvorim Secretariat by the Village Groups needs to
be viewed carefully by Goans. Let’s not believe the Deceitful/Corrupt Goa
Government, as they are only too keen to tarnish genuine protestors, so as
to continue with the destruction of Goa for personal gains. Anyway on the
topic of Violence, it is definitely wrong, but we need to find an
alternative not only to Violence but for argument sake, an alternative to
peaceful means as well. We see a common statement around the World and India
in a particular, where Governments ask to renounce violence and ask for
peaceful ways to solve issues (including dialogue), but in many cases
activists are forced into violence after trying desperately via peaceful
manner and dialogue?  See the Goa Scenario, our current Chief Minister and
most of the Ministers never keep their promises, manipulate
facts/situations, constantly sabotage genuine action for Goa, intimidate
activist by abuse of the machinery including Quasi Judicial bodies, Police
etc Court Cases are taking too long to deliver justice; and is a classic
case of Justice delayed Justice Denied. So may I ask again, what alternative
can we give to these activists who are being checkmated at every point?
Democracy is being abused via migrant vote banks, communal basis, ignorant 
gullible voters. Again, I am not advocating the Violence option but am only
asking if there is another option, other than the violent  the peaceful
one; the latter which obviously not working in Goa?  Needless to say these
activists are not fighting for only themselves, but for all of Goa and Goan;
from the Anti-Goans!!



Arwin Mesquita (UAE)













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Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/

Please also see below:
1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/
2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/
3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/
4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO:
http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html
5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/
6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim
7. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686
8. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/


[Goanet] Goa and it's villages being destroyed - Call Digambar's flying squad to the rescue (another of our CM's cruel jokes)

2010-05-19 Thread Freddy Fernandes
In response to:

Message: 1

Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:17:06 +0800

From: roger dsouza rdsg2...@gmail.com

Subject: [Goanet] Goa and it's villages being destroyed - Call Digambar's flying
squad to the rescue (another of our CM's cruel jokes)

 

Effective flying squads, express courts and good governance are just myths in
Goa, they can never be facts unless we Goans change our perceptions and our
prerogatives and get our priorities right. 

 

Who are responsible for electing these imbecile ? We Goans, aren't we, the
people who have facilitated the rise of this enormous aberration ?  And I won't
be surprised if the very same people are back in power after the next election
as well. You, Arwin, Rajan, Florian and others can vent and pent as much as
you'll can, but we Goans will never change.

 

At the Blueberry how many people from Carmona, Colva, Benaulim, Majorda,
Cansaulim, Vasco and North Goa were there ? How many people who are affected by
mining were present ? In whole of Goa only a hundred handful are affected by the
miners-builders-politicians-police nexus ? This was indeed a crude joke played
by Goans on the Activists. Time to ponder isn't it ? Are we all barking and
screeching at our own shadows ? Looks like the bogyman in mining and
mega-projects was just a fiction of our imagination. 

 

If most of Goa is affected by mining, mega-projects or the anomalies in the RP,
why were they not present at the Blueberry ? Is it, Hanv maka, ani Dev
somestank ? If this is our Goan mentality, then there is surely no hope for
Goa. With all due respect for your concern for Goa, it is high time we stopped
blaming our politicians, and accept that we Goans have failed ourselves and
introspect on way and means to correct ourselves.

 

It's a pity, our very own Activists, who all claim to love Goa and are willing
to do anything to save Goa, unfortunately cannot even work together to save Goa,
they have the same aim, they have the same gusto, they are genuine in their own
ways so what the duck is the problem to work together ? If whole of Goa is
united Digu kaka and his thirty nine foot soldiers can be brought to their knees
in no time, but for the moment it looks to be only a pipe dream.

 

Only if we Goans can get our act together and walk in unison and fight as one
unit only then will we be able to salvage what's left of Goa, till then our
politicians, will make hay while we Goans keep on bickering combi vo tantem

 

Freddy Agnelo Fernandes


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[Goanet] from india environment portal - EIA report on controversial Jaitapur nuclear power plant at Ratnagiri

2010-05-19 Thread Kiran Pandey
To: Goanet 

You must be aware that the public hearing on proposed Jaitapur nuclear power 
project (at Ratnagiri district) by NPCIL was stopped by the villagers 
yesterday. As, 
they were not given copies of the project's EIA report (as per the rule)

This EIA report is not in the public domain as yet. But the India environment 
portal 
has this. It has been highlighted on the Portal home page alongwith 
other related information at http://www.indiaenvironmentportal.org.in

If this is of interest to your network,please check out 
http://www.indiaenvironmentportal.org.in. This report is also available at 
http://www.indiaenvironmentportal.org.in/node/306103


India Environment Portal 
Centre for Science and Environment Ms. Kiran Pandey

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Re: [Goanet] Alternative to Violence

2010-05-19 Thread floriano

Dear Arwin,

If you are looking for an alternative to the many things you have listed, 
you will have found it in PPS


Cheers
floriano
Coordinator
from PPS to PPS
9890470896
floriano.l...@gmail.com


- Original Message - 
From: Arwin Mesquita arwinmesqu...@gmail.com

To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:49 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Alternative to Violence


The recent incident at Porvorim Secretariat by the Village Groups needs to
be viewed carefully by Goans. Let’s not believe the Deceitful/Corrupt Goa
Government, as they are only too keen to tarnish genuine protestors, so as
to continue with the destruction of Goa for personal gains. Anyway on the
topic of Violence, it is definitely wrong, but we need to find an
alternative not only to Violence but for argument sake, an alternative to
peaceful means as well. We see a common statement around the World and India
in a particular, where Governments ask to renounce violence and ask for
peaceful ways to solve issues (including dialogue), but in many cases
activists are forced into violence after trying desperately via peaceful
manner and dialogue?  See the Goa Scenario, our current Chief Minister and
most of the Ministers never keep their promises, manipulate
facts/situations, constantly sabotage genuine action for Goa, intimidate
activist by abuse of the machinery including Quasi Judicial bodies, Police
etc Court Cases are taking too long to deliver justice; and is a classic
case of Justice delayed Justice Denied. So may I ask again, what alternative
can we give to these activists who are being checkmated at every point?
Democracy is being abused via migrant vote banks, communal basis, ignorant 
gullible voters. Again, I am not advocating the Violence option but am only
asking if there is another option, other than the violent  the peaceful
one; the latter which obviously not working in Goa?  Needless to say these
activists are not fighting for only themselves, but for all of Goa and Goan;
from the Anti-Goans!!



Arwin Mesquita (UAE)













--
Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/

Please also see below:
1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/
2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/
3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/
4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO:
http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html
5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/
6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim
7. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686
8. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/ 



Re: [Goanet] Hey You Goan People Why Have You Forsaken Me ?

2010-05-19 Thread floriano

Dear Freddy,

You are spelling out  P  P  S
PEOPLE  for POLITICAL  SANITY
PEOPLE'S POWER SYSTEM.

If Goa (the buffulo herd) has to survive the attack on its 'calves' ( 
decimation of its posterity) by the pack of LIONS ( 40 at Vidhan Sabha), the 
pack of Crocks in its rivers ( High Commands from Delhi, Nagpur  
Maharashtra), PPS must take hold of every knook and corner of Goa in a 
jiffy. PPS is a self funding movement designed on the slogan: 'Small money 
from a lot of people makes better sense of belonging and participation than 
a lot of money from one person).

The onliest way to go is PPS

Cheers
floriano
coordinator of
from PPS to PPS
9890470896
floriano.l...@gmail.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM



- Original Message - 
From: Freddy Fernandes ffernandes@emaar.ae

To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:44 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Hey You Goan People Why Have You Forsaken Me ?


Hey You Goan People Why Have You Forsaken Me ?



As some of the Activists in Goa were busy arranging the meeting at 
Blueberry,
the electronic media was busy spreading the news about the meeting, hopes 
were
high, it did not matter, who initiated the meeting,  it did not matter who 
the
speakers were, nor did their stature matter, the only thing that mattered 
was
the unity of Goans in the face of adversity. It was indeed a good call but 
what
turned out was much to be desired. out of over a million Goans, not even a 
few

hundreds thought it was wise to attend the meeting, just a mere hundred odd
people !! Is this the way to save Goa ? Mother Goa calls on each one of us 
Hey,

you Goan people, why have you forsaken me ?






[Goanet] Theresa Almeida's article

2010-05-19 Thread Bernice Pereira
About Portuguese rule circa 1961, dictators maybe, but never ruthless.

Bernice Pereira





[Goanet] Fw: Fred on Bleddy Goans.. and all that- comments as posted on www.goasu-raj.org

2010-05-19 Thread floriano


- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey Pereira

To: Floriano Lobo
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: [Goanet] Fred on Bleddy Goans.. and all that- comments as 
posted on www.goasu-raj.org



Hey Floriano, if you can please post this reply of mine somewhere. Thank you 
so much for keeping me in the loop
Will keep in touch. It's Spring Time here in The States. I can't wait till I 
come back to Goa. It will happen soon.

Hope that you are doing fine. Hello to your family.
Vaya Con Dios my friend
Peace
Godfrey Pereira
_

Whoever this guy  Eugene Correia is, he does radiate some good light. Hello 
Eugene, Peace from The Jersey Shore..
Once again I would like to stress, this artcle was not an anti Goan piece. 
It was a gut scream that hoped to wake up somebody, anybody, hopefully The 
Goans, to the pain I felt.
I do not have any problem, with Goan mothers because their sons work in The 
Gulf and Canada. What I was trying to say is despite the cash flow that some 
or many Goan mothers receive, being silent, and being being apathetic is not 
an option for the Goan WOMAN right now.
Women are STRONG. They can influence their men. They can literally turn 
things around. Perhaps I could have explained it better. Mea Culpa, Mea 
Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa.


And, I don't need to leave Jersey and New York to help my East Indian 
Community. What I have done to help in that fight, I know, so we will let 
that go for now.  I do not see myself as an East Indian to begin with... but 
when I see a place like Goa being raped... I cannot be silent and run to 
America. That is why I wrote what I wrote. How can you stay silent when you 
see a sign saying Indians Not Allowed in Goa. How? Where were the Indian 
voices, THE GOAN VOICES, when these signs were put up. Where? You can 
criticize me all you want, at least I cried out aloud, in pain and anger and 
shame, when I seen this injustice.
I could have walked away... I am not a Goan, hell I am not even an Indian 
Citizen, but my heart beat is Indian and many, many parts of my 
consciousness lie strewn all over Goa, that's why...I am what I am. If you 
want to shoot the messanger, go ahead, shoot me but after that, you had 
better stand up and do something about your silence.


My anger and frustration is better than the collective silence that I was 
hearing. The Goan sound of silence here, my friend is a terrifying state of 
fatal lethargy.


And lastly, Yes I am aware of some of the campaigns that have been run. The 
proof my friend is in the pudding. And right now, from human feces and urine 
in the Mandovi river to openly corrupt politicians and police and miners and 
foreign drug runners, the Goan Pudding is looking like Bibic, left out in 
the sun too long, the scavengers are moving in. And The Goans are watching 
this tragedy with a funeral like silence that is frightening.


If you do not have a problem with that, then my friend, YOU ARE PART OF THE 
PROBLEM.

Peace
Godfrey Pereira



From: floriano.l...@gmail.com
To: godfrey.pere...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Fred on Bleddy Goans.. and all that- comments as 
posted on www.goasu-raj.org

Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:48:30 +0530


Comments:

Well done,  Eugene.

Not because you have mentioned my name. Names do not  matter when Goa is 
fighting the hands that are strangulating her.


Yes, Godfrey Pereira has opened a lot of eyes and ears here in Goa, mine 
too.
That is why I have been one of the first ones to thank him profusely, but 
importantly, not to ridicule or dismember our very own Goans.

Sometimes, things have to be taken in stride, forgive people et al.
The least I can say is thank you for overlooking my little indiscretions 
towards you. But then, not to justify them, I have been always looking at 
the larger interest of Goa and Goan. My consistency will prove this.


Today, Goa needs the replay of the 'BATTLE AT KRUGER'  available at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM, thanks to Dr. Ferdinand dos Reis 
Falcao.


And the need of the hour is the furtherance of the PPS movement.

Once again, thank you for being objective.

B/rgds

Cheers
floriano
Coordinator of:
from PPS to PPS
9890470896
floriano.l...@gmail.com




- Original Message - 
From: Eugene Correia gene_corr...@yahoo.com

To: goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Fred on Bleddy Goans.. and all that 



Re: [Goanet] Introducing a new service on GoanVoice

2010-05-19 Thread Jim Fernandes
Rene,

I don't think you got the gist of what I was trying to say ...

It was meant to be just a little fun comment on what I thought was an 
interesting observation - nothing more. Didn't you notice the little smiley at 
the end? You need to view the younger generation on GoaNet with a different 
angle!

By the way, I was in Goa about two weeks ago and made some even more 
interesting observations. I shall post about my trip shortly - had been busy 
catching up with work.

Cheers,

Jim F
New York.


  
-- Original message --
From: goan...@yahoo.co.uk

 
 Dear Jim ,  With respect  ... please tell us as -  what was the purpose of 
your 
 post  ?
 
 Are you trying to tell us  that we Goans should not support members of our  
 Goan 
 Community  in the good  they do ? 
 
Goan Voice is doing a great service , I am sure you will agree ..   all this 
 does 
 not come free !
 
 We talk about UNITY -  is this the way we  promote UNITY ... IN OUR 
Goan  COMMunity ??A nice word goes a long way ... be kind. ... spread a 
 little 
happiness - make people happy :   (  :-life is too short   - tomorrow may 
 not be ours. 
 
Lets support the good our  Goans do for our Goan Community ...  wherever that 
 may be.
 
   Jim , I am sure you meant no harm   :- 
 )
 
 rene 
 
 
 
 
 Message: 12
 Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 00:52:02 +
 From: Jim Fernandes amigo...@att.net
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Introducing a new service on GoanVoice
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 Is there some sort of SWAPS deal going on in here?
 
 On one side of the deal, you have Ms Carvalho sending stuff on behalf of Mr 
 Fernandes - example, the note below. 
 
 While on the other side, you have Mr Fernandes, sending out Ms Carvalho's 
 writings.
 
 Interesting observation, isn't it? But hey, who the bleep care's . :)
 
 Jim F
 New York.
   
 -- Original message --
 From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com
 
  Dear Members,
 Eddie Fernandes has introduced a brand new service on GoanVoice UK. Now, you 
 can 
 put out a personal ad, anything from advertising a business service,?to an 
 event 
 such as a book launch, exhibition, sale of furniture?or birthdays, 
 anniversaries?and public thank you notes, for just 5 UK pounds. Details are 
  here:
  
  http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/
  
 GoanVoice UK has a world-wide audience which spans from the Goan Diaspora in 
 ...
 ...
 ...
 
 
 rene barreto
 Goanworld : http://worldgoan.blogspot.com/
 
 
 WORLD GOA DAY 20.8.2010 WORLD KONKANI DAY
   WORLD ALLAINCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS 
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[Goanet] nice development

2010-05-19 Thread Joao Barros-Pereira
Goa has more casinos than Las Vegas, I read somewhere. I don't know a thing
about casinos (on land or water) but I was surprised to learn this fact as
it shows that we are even more developed than Las Vegas! Goa as No. 1?
Unfortunately, there is a footnote. The casinos have been spewing raw sewage
into the river which in turn is eaten by the fish and then by the wealthy
folks residing in Panaji and its environs. Non-Panaji residents will have to
be content with fish which eat chemical pollutants, I guess. Anyway, I'm
curious to know if the fish taste better? In the old days before the Age of
Sulab and flush toilets, pigs would do the work of the fish. My friend who
swears by the taste of the sausages of the the pre-sewage pigs is willing to
bet his last rupee that sausages made from farm pigs don't taste as good! Is
it true of fish-curry? Does the shit in shit-kodi have a deeper semantic
meaning and has its fame and flavor travelled worldwide?


[Goanet] Shiv Sena at Mapuca Market

2010-05-19 Thread Jerry Fernandes
Dears



A few days ago, there was a write up on Shiv Sena demanding all non Goans to
vacate the Mapuca Market. After that there has been no news at all. Could
someone shed some light as to what happened, and is the Mapuca market
cleared of all the non Goans, making more space for shoppers, and allowing
more Goans to sell their wares there?



Reply will be appreciated.



Cheers



Jerry Fernandes


[Goanet] Goa news for May 20, 2010

2010-05-19 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Pune connection in Goa blast chargesheet - Expressindia.com
ovt-refuses-to-ban-hindu-group-74634.htmlusg=AFQjCNG7RNllNnHa6SUBBJQuNTZuTjKMVgGoa
govt refuses to ban Hindu group
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/pune-connection-in-goa-blast-chargesheet/620701/usg=AFQjCNFW_hnosN-B_n9VMhL-5PSFSXrQVg

*** Sesa Goa tumbles as Govt reverses earlier nod - Hindu
Business Line
irm-forced-to-stop-goan-operations/usg=AFQjCNHFjvtAeveCGprn5cT6YywUpYrL1AMining
firm forced to stop Goan operations
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/05/19/stories/2010051953441001.htmusg=AFQjCNHHe0tpj_j-eevzifPowDDm5a1qBQ

*** CM said I don't depend on your votes, say angry locals -
Times of India
jUKzFNFSJFYkHu3bvhzdnPQThe 'aam aadmi' chief minister in Goa
and other cynical ironies
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Goa/CM-said-I-dont-depend-on-your-votes-say-angry-locals/articleshow/5951458.cmsusg=AFQjCNF0dx3IEIblZoqRKGKN6T5CDjrwoQ

*** EXCLUSIVE: It Is Not A Surprise To See AFC Scrap Delhi 
Tamil Nadu Projects ... - Goal.com
ndia/news/141/asia/2010/05/19/1933026/afc-scraps-delhi-tamil-nadu-projects-from-vision-asiausg=AFQjCNF4cYnpkmdEvM3B_ZCg26JKu6QghwAFC
Scraps Delhi  Tamil Nadu Projects From Vision Asia
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/136/india/2010/05/19/1933028/exclusive-it-is-not-a-surprise-to-see-afc-scrap-delhi-tamil-nadu-usg=AFQjCNGew_yTBvY5nB_9UpRIc5VEnWCgiw

*** Tamil Nadu students put state on top - Times of India
adu/article433953.eceusg=AFQjCNFWrdc9qesWuP7mktCqbMp5AzDBiQChennai
region records 92.17 pass percentage in CBSE exam
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Tamil-Nadu-students-put-state-on-top/articleshow/5951340.cmsusg=AFQjCNEBW-utZ4S3HKqnyUpDF37JfkYiOQ

*** Goa tops region in CBSE Class XII results - Times of India
ill-announce-12th-class-results-for-year-2010/usg=AFQjCNFpvnhh2IQUS2yCUEKcNRm1BoF76wCBSE
Will Announce 12th Class Results For Year 2010
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Goa/Goa-tops-region-in-CBSE-Class-XII-results/articleshow/5951477.cmsusg=AFQjCNE1-rCQTJRQyDPITTLRXXMwU22e7g

*** Goa industry mulls conveyor belts to transport ore -
Economic Times
onomic TimesPANAJI: Mining industries in Goa are mulling the
possibility of setting up a network of conveyor belts to
transport ore from the mining pits to the port ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/indl-goods-/-svs/metals--mining/Goa-industry-mulls-conveyor-belts-to-transport-ore/articleshow/5948385.cmsusg=AFQjCNGDV2cQd5N5vBGEe-tUpJvKlQP6PQ

*** 'Springs, fields will die if Chiunim Dongor is mined' -
Times of India
Mand more »
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Goa/Springs-fields-will-die-if-Chiunim-Dongor-is-mined/articleshow/5951450.cmsusg=AFQjCNGbBYpNn2tfcakW-5dZP4CXaXvTRg

*** Rechristening of Goa - Times of India
mes of IndiaIn a reflection of the demographic changes the state
is undergoing, new colonies and wards being carved out in Goa's
towns and villages are more likely to ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Goa/Rechristening-of-Goa/articleshow/5951467.cmsusg=AFQjCNHVC4YAGrljWUCxNWbd8kcB-5XsOA

*** 'Switch to trailing stop when Sesa Goa touches Rs 360' -
Economic Times
onomic TimesET Now caught up with Deepak Mohoni, director,
trendwatchindia.com, to find out his views on the outlook of
Sesa Goa. You have a target of Rs 360 and a stop ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/stocks/views/recommendations/Switch-to-trailing-stop-when-Sesa-Goa-touches-Rs-360/articleshow/5948445.cmsusg=AFQjCNHeub74npgOMVUkbvbRhGcNS3apkA


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


[Goanet] GT 'Debate' Soddun Konn Pollon Ghelo? Hanv vo Borges bab?

2010-05-19 Thread tomazinho cardozo

GT ‘DEBATE’  SODDUN KONN POLLON GHELO?  HANV VO BORGES BAB?

( May 14, 2010 hea disa GOA Net hacher ailole Borges babachea zabab-ak 
poilo “DEBATE’ hache vixim zabab ditam. Ho zabab lamb aslolea karannank 
lagon tannem ghatlolea heram bogllanttancher uprant uzvadd ghaltam)


Amchea Borges babachi ti zolmanchich sonvoim zaun asa.  Apnnem pap korop 
ani tem pap zata zalear dusreancher lottovn ghalop. ‘Gomantak Times’ 
(GT) hea Inglez potracher tannench suru kelole bhasabaxecher bariksannen 
niyall kelear tem sid’dh zata ani hanvem  ‘Debate’ korunk avhan dilolem 
ti ‘DEBATE’   soddun konnem poll kaddli tenvuim provar zata.


Amchea Borges babak ek duens asa. Hem duens mhunttlear zor konn Dalgado 
Konknni Akademy (DKA) Romi lipicher onit zalea tacher zhuzpak rochlea 
mhunttlear taka to “Lipirog” rokddoch zata. Goychea Rajbhas kaideak 
lagon Romi lipintle Konknnicher onit kelea mhunttlear Borges baba bhitor 
to ‘Lipirog’ rokddoch ustota. Ani oxench GT hea Inglez potracher ghoddlem.


Hanvem teach vixoyacher GT-cher ek lekh boroilolo. Borges babacho 
‘Lipirog’ ustolo ani rokddench tannem GT potrak ek chitt boroiloli. Hi 
chitt Junache 10 tarker 2009 hea disa porgott zali. Tea disa hi chorcha 
suru zali. Te chittik hanvem zabab daddlo to sokol ditam: Ho mhojo poilo 
zabab:


First Reply to S. M. Borges’ Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June

DISSEMINATING IGNORANCE
Mr. S. M. Borges’s letter – Disseminating ignorance - published on your 
daily dated June 10, 2009 is the result of frustration. I say it is 
frustration only because he has unnecessarily mixed the payment I get as 
a columnist with the issue in question. My friend Mr. Borges gets 
excited immediately if any one states that DKA was formed to fight the 
injustice meted to Konkani in Roman script. It is because he is wearing 
glasses through which he can see only Konkani in Devnagori script and 
nothing else. I have always stated that Konkani in Roman script should 
be given equal status with Konkani in Devnagori script in the Official 
Language Act of Goa. My friend Mr. Borges opposes it with all his might 
because his ultimate aim is to see the end of Konkani in Roman script as 
soon as possible.


Mr. Borges has a lot of time to write letters after letters and he feels 
that everyone else too lives in the same way. Every minute is precious 
to me and hence I would not like to waste my precious time in answering 
questions of Mr. Borges who is not any authority to decide on the issue.


Nevertheless I am prepared to clear all the issues in the confused mind 
of Mr. Borges regarding Konkani in Roman script. Let us have a one to 
one, face to face live debate on this issue in the presence of the media 
– printed as well as electronic – and the people. If that happens then 
only we shall be in a position to state who is disseminating ignorance, 
false information and manipulated history.


I give first preference to Mr. S. M. Borges organize this debate and if 
he is not able to do so then I take the responsibility to organize the 
same. If agreeable then Mr. Borges may contact me on my cell phone 
9822170102.


Tomazinho Cardozo
Candolim

Potrancher bhasabas korun tancho moladik zago pidder korcho nhoi ani 
ekach borobor ‘sot’ kitem ani ‘fott’ kitem tem uzvaddak yeunche khatir 
hanvem “DEBATE” korunk avhan dilem. Hanv somzololom ki amcho Borges bab 
ti ‘debate’ korpak raji zatolo mhunn. Punn na! Kitem kai mhunttlear 
tannem mhaka GT potracher zabab diun sodanche porim mhaka kaim proxn 
kelet. Poile aplea proxnnanche zabab di ani zabab dilea uprantuch 
‘Debate’ korum-ia. ‘Debate’ korinastana poll kaddpachi hi tachi yevzonn 
asli. Hanvem taka GT potrar dusro zabab dilo to sokol ditam:


Second Reply to S. M. Borges’ Letter on Gomantak Times dated 17th June
LET’S HAVE THE DEBATE – NO ‘ifs’ and ‘buts’ !

From the letter of Mr. S. M. Borges ‘Let’s have the debate, Tomazinho, 
but …?” (Gt June 17)  one comes to the conclusion that Mr. Borges is not 
willing to have a debate otherwise he would have not put conditions to 
answer his questions before the debate. In fact the debate is proposed 
in order to get all answers from me as well as from Mr. Borges. Then why 
there is a need to answer him in advance? Or is it an excuse to avoid to 
discuss the matter in public because it could lead to the exposure of 
lies perpetuated by Mr. S. M. Borges and others of his like regarding 
Konkani in Roman script?


Once again Mr. Borges displays his frustration by linking the issue of 
the proposed debate to politicians. He says in his letter, “ Politicians 
thrive on media exposure, so it will be cruel  to deny Cardozo his 
craving.” The whole of Goa knows that I have left politics long back but 
it is Mr. Borges alone who keeps on harping on my political life because 
it suits him to defame the politicians and get the mileage from it if 
possible. In fact Mr. Borges has been appointed to some statutory bodies 
by the politicians only who according to him crave for 

[Goanet] CM to Goans: I don't need your votes. Do what you want.

2010-05-19 Thread Melvyn Ferrao
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Goa/CM-said-I-dont-depend-on-your-votes-say-angry-locals/articleshow/5951458.cms

Some quotes from people in high places have been remembered across
generations. If you don't have bread, eat cake is one of them. The Goa
CM's latest quote is the newest addition to the list.


[Goanet] I am not dependent on your votes:CM Digambar's shocking insult to us Goans

2010-05-19 Thread roger dsouza
Look at the sheer arrogance and of the Goa CM and the MLAs that we
have voted to power as our representatives! The shocking treatment
meted out to the Goan village activists who stood up to voice their
opinions is a clear indication of the Goa Government’s cavalier
attitude and total disregard to the voices of our Goan villagers.

In a clever move the Goa CM insisted that he would meet with a small
group of women activists at the Secretariat and then humiliated and
attacked them in the most disreputable manner and then set the Goa
police to outrage the modesty of our  Goan Women who stood up to voice
their opinions all this in broad daylight.

No wonder Goa today is at it’s worst with there being no law and order
to speak of. Just about every crooked and devious scheme has the
blessings of our Ministers who want to promote their interests in
order to benefit from the kick-backs that they get from the real
estate and Mining lobbies

Digambar has the gall to tell our Goan villagers that he doesn’t
depend on their votes. The stash of funds that our politicians receive
form these lobbies is what they use to buy votes and get their power
so what do they care about Goan interests? Isn’t the CM and the MLAs
answerable to the Goan people and listen to and address their
grievances? Do they care? Of course not!

The following article is from the Herald:

I am not dependent on your votes:
 CM Digambar’s words draw ire of village groups

HERALD REPORTER

PANJIM, MAY 18

Chief Minister Digambar Kamat has found himself in the centre of a
controversy over his statement “I am not dependent on your votes” to a
delegation of five women from the village groups who went to see him
over land-use violations on Monday.

Addressing a press conference, Edwin Pinto, who is one of the persons
in the forefront opposing land illegalities, said, “This is serious.
We are Goans and the women who went to put forth their grievances to
the CM were Goans. If he is not dependent on Goan votes, how will he
look after Goan peoples’ interests,” Pinto questioned.

He said the five women members were furious and angry and came and
told us what had transpired between them and the CM in his chamber at
the Secretariat. “The CM has to clarify on what he meant by his
statement that he was not dependent on our votes. Then we have to see
whether he was riding on the wave of migrant votes,” Pinto asserted.

Carmen de Miranda from Loutolim, who was one of the members who went
to see the CM, narrated, “He refused to look into our demands and said
we had no appointment to see him. At that point of time I asked him
during elections they never took appointment to come to see us for
votes. He told us point blank he wasn’t dependent on our votes at
which we were confused and didn’t know what to say. He further said do
what you’ll want and didn’t care.”

Zarina da Cunha, Judy Rebello, Swati Kerkar and Carmen Correia were
the other four women who were part of the delegation. They said the
CM’s behaviour towards them was cold and bitter.

They said the CM was responsible for unleashing a reign of terror on
the people, who had gone to redress their grievances, by using the
police force. “We were taken to the police station where the men and
women were kept in one cell and were never even offered food,” they
narrated.

Neri Fernandes said he had accompanied the women to the CM’s chamber.
“After the meeting when we were walking back three political leaders
Subhash Shirodkar, Deepak Dhavilkar and Reginaldo Lourenco also gave
us a cold shoulder,” he mentioned.

Croyden Madeira said the water provided at the Porvorim police station
was muddy. Our basic human rights were not taken care of, he stated.
The village groups have called for action against Porvorim PI Devendra
Gad who has been accused of manhandling women activists time and
again.

Goa Bachao Abhiyan member Prajal Sakhardande said the people had
elected the Government so that it will look into their problems. “But
the opposite was happening. The people are left to fend for
themselves. Hills are being cut down blatantly and the authorities are
turning a Nelson’s eye to the activity,” he mentioned.

The village groups have ridiculed the flying squads stating the same
were mere eye wash and pressed for some members of the village groups
to be included in them.

Edwin Pinto said the village groups had come together in a strong way
to save Goan hills and fields for the next generation. “We are sure to
take this fight to its logical conclusion. The CM’s statement has
bolstered us to take up the challenge and wage a war against the
illegalities in our villages and in between if there was aggression
the Government will be responsible,” he observed.


[Goanet] Craponisation of Goa -an attemtp to salvage culture

2010-05-19 Thread Bernado Colaco
Blinded by the term 'liberation' for 48 years Goans are now coming to their 
senses and making some attempts to defend their dignity and culture. One Miguel 
Braganca is at the forefront of this salvation .
BC
 
 
Andrew Pereira, TNN, May 20, 2010, 03.49am IST
 PANJIM: The names they are a changin’. In a reflection of the demographic 
changes the state is undergoing, 
new colonies and wards being carved out in Goa’s towns and villages are more 
likely to call themselves some nagar or the other instead of the traditional 
vaddo. 

Nagar is not a native word. It is a suffix given to the name of a settlement 
in other parts of India, mostly North India, says horticulturist Miguel 
Braganza who is passionate about local history. 

Forgive a Saxttikar if he looks askance at hearing of the existence of a Kargil 
in Sao Jose de Areal, or a Bardezkar of being asked to look for a Shanti Nagar 
in Socorro. A few years ago, locals in Sao Jose de Areal did wake up to find 
that a part of their village was named Kargil by migrants living there. The 
name was even displayed on local buses, serving the migrant population in the 
area, until the south Goa district administration put an end to it. 

In Mapusa, a young student at St Xavier's college was amused to see the address 
of his rented house on his electricity bill. Situated behind the college 
premises, the house address on the bill read Fukat Nagar. 

Trust the politicians not to be behind in their quest to leave a legacy. A 
field in Margao, locally known as Calgonda, was given away for a slum 
settlement and christened Babu Nagar. Subsequently, the migrants changed it to 
Azad Nagar. 

On Betim’s hills north of the River Mandovi exists a Ram Nagar, while every 
second new colony in Porvorim is being termed as a nagar. Says history lecturer 
Prajal Sakhardande, Ram Nagar is a village in Belgaum. 

On Porvorim plateau, the new colonies that have sprung up are Jai Nagar, Vidya 
Nagar and Shanti Nagar. Recently, a landscape contractor said he was executing 
a project at a Patel Nagar in Porvorim. 

The village of Socorro has been given a Shanti Nagar and a Sai Nagar, courtesy 
a government scheme to convert comunidade land for housing plots. Another 
government scheme, ostensibly to give land to Goans from the lower income 
group, but which was lapped up by migrants, was named Indira Nagar in Chimbel. 

There’s another Fukat Nagar created in Sancoale and existing for years. The 
migrants have constructed illegal huts on comunidade land and are not paying a 
single paisa for it. Neither are they contributing anything by way of 
government taxes. Hence, the name Fukat Nagar which has been accepted by those 
concerned, says social activist Simon Carvalho. 

After Zuari industries came in and called the land Zuari Nagar, the trend was 
followed by others. Today, besides our vaddos, we have a Shanti Nagar, a Upas 
Nagar and a Queeny Nagar, Carvalho says. 

Travel to Assonora by bus, and you will hear the conductors calling it 
Alsanwadi, says Braganza, adding, The migrant labourers living in the village 
call it by that name, and the bus conductors have already adapted to it for 
their customers. 
__._,_.___


  


Re: [Goanet] Konkani - devanagri or Romi?

2010-05-19 Thread Sebastian Borges
Dear friends,
Discussion on this topic has indeed been going on for a long time. Yet, 
regretfully, abysmal ignorance thereon persists unabated; in fact, because of 
the non-serious participation on the internet, it has become extensive as well. 
The present post is a sample of this situation. Let us analyse some of its 
salient contents.

the Romi is the real Konkani of Goa.
1. To the best of my knowledge, Konkani is the name of the language spoken by 
people living in a part of the western coastal belt of India called Konkan. 
Like any other language it has many dialects which are spoken in certain 
localities or by members of certain groups, like professions, ethnicities etc. 
2. Now, is this Romi a language? If yes, where is this name recorded? I cannot 
claim to know the name of every language in the world but must confess that I 
have not heard of this one. Is it a dialect of Konkani? If yes, where is it 
SPOKEN (like Aldona, Agonda, Satari, Sanguem) or by which community (like 
fisherman, carpenter, brahmin, charddo, kunnbi, velip, Christian, Hindu etc.)?
3. What characteristics or attributes make it real as against others which may 
be unreal?

Borges ... has been writing endlessly, his strong love for the devanagri
Konkani
Could I please see a sample or two from my endless writing wherein I have 
expressed my strong love for the devanagari Konkani whatever the last two 
words might mean?

his correspondence is mostly in romi (not the writing) but the 
pronounciations
What is this supposed to mean? Is there something called 'romi pronunciations'? 
Could I be favoured with a sample of this as well? I was under the (mistaken?) 
impression that romi stands for a script which is used for WRITING; but here 
Jerry qualifies it with not the writing. Hence my curiosity. Trust Jerry will 
help.

I wonder why he does not write his mails in devanagri,(he may use the romi 
script as goanet does not support the devanagri font)
What is the meaning of this? How can I use romi script to write in devanagari? 
Would it be too much to expect a clarification?

Most of what is being said on doordarshan TV, ... just flies over my head and 
makes me wonder if that is the Konkani or Marathi or whatever language it is.
Most of what I heard being read in the Church also flew over my head, as it is 
not in the Konkani language I speak at home or in the local marketplace. I too 
wondered whether it was Latin or Greek or whatever language. But years of 
dinning into my captive ears has made it intelligible; my cerebral computer has 
now become adept at translating the Church medium into my domestic lingo. So, 
if Jerry were to stick to the doordarshan TV long enough, he would surely 
understand what is being said, without bothering whether it is in Konkani or 
Marathi or whatever language.

Finally, why add Dr to my name? In the past people have used such appellations 
to derail a discussion. Therefore please avoid it. I do understand that you 
cannot avoid mentioning my name, but please remember that the person behind 
that name is not, and should never be, the subject of discussion. Let us 
rationally stick to the topic. WHAT is said is important not WHO said it. In 
fact, WHAT is said should be able to stand on its own, irrespective of WHO said 
it.

Sotachench zoit zatolem.
Mog asum.
Sebastian Borges

   

On 17 May 2010 Jerry Fernandes jerry...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Netters,

This Konkani Romi / devanagri discussion has been going on for quite a long
time with no way the devanagris agreeing to accept that the Romi is the real 
Konkani of Goa.

Dr Borges the staunch supporter and the main correspondent on goanet for
devanagris has been writing endlessly, his strong love for the devanagri
Konkani, but what amazes me is that his correspondence is mostly in romi (
not the writing) but the pronounciations, and I wonder why he does not write 
his mails in devanagri,(he may use the romi script as goanet does not
support the devanagri font) , and I am curious to read and see if I can
understand the devanagri Konkani.

Most of what is being said on doordarshan TV, in the short time allotted to
Goa, just flies over my head and makes me wonder if that is the Konkani or
Marathi or whatever language it is.


Cheers

Jerry Fernandes

Sebastian Borges







[Goanet] Goa...Going...Gone? Rechristening of Goa

2010-05-19 Thread roger dsouza
What do you think would be the new name for Goa? Any Guesses?

Thanks to the patronage of our Goan politicians the Goan landscape is
fast changing. Soon Goa as we know it will disappear (if it already
hasn't) from Gated communities at one end to Fukat Nagars at the
other.  As for the Goans like the Parsis and other communities will
soon be an extinct species!

This article is from the Times of India.

*

Rechristening of Goa

Andrew Pereira, TNN, May 20, 2010, 03.49am IST

PANAJI: The names they are a changin’. In a reflection of the
demographic changes the state is undergoing,
new colonies and wards being carved out in Goa’s towns and villages
are more likely to call themselves some nagar or the other instead of
the traditional vaddo.

Nagar is not a native word. It is a suffix given to the name of a
settlement in other parts of India, mostly North India, says
horticulturist Miguel Braganza who is passionate about local history.

Forgive a Saxttikar if he looks askance at hearing of the existence of
a Kargil in Sao Jose de Areal, or a Bardezkar of being asked to look
for a Shanti Nagar in Socorro. A few years ago, locals in Sao Jose de
Areal did wake up to find that a part of their village was named
Kargil by migrants living there. The name was even displayed on local
buses, serving the migrant population in the area, until the south Goa
district administration put an end to it.

In Mapusa, a young student at St Xavier's college was amused to see
the address of his rented house on his electricity bill. Situated
behind the college premises, the house address on the bill read Fukat
Nagar.

Trust the politicians not to be behind in their quest to leave a
legacy. A field in Margao, locally known as Calgonda, was given away
for a slum settlement and christened Babu Nagar. Subsequently, the
migrants changed it to Azad Nagar.

On Betim’s hills north of the River Mandovi exists a Ram Nagar, while
every second new colony in Porvorim is being termed as a nagar. Says
history lecturer Prajal Sakhardande, Ram Nagar is a village in
Belgaum.

On Porvorim plateau, the new colonies that have sprung up are Jai
Nagar, Vidya Nagar and Shanti Nagar. Recently, a landscape contractor
said he was executing a project at a Patel Nagar in Porvorim.

The village of Socorro has been given a Shanti Nagar and a Sai Nagar,
courtesy a government scheme to convert comunidade land for housing
plots. Another government scheme, ostensibly to give land to Goans
from the lower income group, but which was lapped up by migrants, was
named Indira Nagar in Chimbel.

There’s another Fukat Nagar created in Sancoale and existing for
years. The migrants have constructed illegal huts on comunidade land
and are not paying a single paisa for it. Neither are they
contributing anything by way of government taxes. Hence, the name
Fukat Nagar which has been accepted by those concerned, says social
activist Simon Carvalho.

After Zuari industries came in and called the land Zuari Nagar, the
trend was followed by others. Today, besides our vaddos, we have a
Shanti Nagar, a Upas Nagar and a Queeny Nagar, Carvalho says.

Travel to Assonora by bus, and you will hear the conductors calling
it Alsanwadi, says Braganza, adding, The migrant labourers living in
the village call it by that name, and the bus conductors have already
adapted to it for their customers.


[Goanet] Slander and Sunshine

2010-05-19 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet -

I reckon that what Dean D'Cruz really has an issue with is the sunshine 
directed at the architect community.  So he labels it slander.  Let me tell 
D'Cruz what slander looks like.  Slander is when F Noronha attempts 
to smear a distinguished Goan scientist based in the USA and cast 
him as a communal bigot.  Slander is when a GBA coward hides 
behind a fake ID on Goanet and throws muck on folks like Claude 
Alvares without a shred of evidence to back up his claims.  (This fellow 
was swiftly introduced to sunshine.)  Slander is when some GBA 
members (and the omnipresent F Noronha) fabricate malicious 
gossip that Soter  I are recipients of backdoor funding from BJP/Manohar 
Parrikar or that we are working at their behest.  I could go on, but I trust 
that Dean-bab gets the idea.

It is okay to call into question the professional activities of an 
architect/builder/civil engineer that are a matter of public record for 
they are part of the very industry that has upended our erstwhile 
paradise.  Given Goa's advanced state of ruin we can no longer make a
distinction between good builders and bad  builders any more than we 
can draw a distinction between good miners and bad miners.  These 
cartels have destroyed the land, its culture, its life.  The miners, builders, 
architects, contractors, politicos are all supping from the same fetid pool. 

Then there is the other point: the Save Goa poseurs have been shown to 
be deceitful.  Case in point, the footsie-dancing ex-convenor of GBA who 
told Goans one thing in public while cozying up to Digu's govt behind 
closed doors.  Soter and I were both right on that call.  D'Cruz and his 
cohorts 
have put on this Save Goa schtick for over 3 years now and what do they 
have to show for it?  Bupkiss.  Nada.  Even after this epic flop, they want 
no accountability, no questions asked.  Some conceit, eh?  

Anyone claiming to be a Save Goa warrior while concurrently 
breaking bread with the villains deserves to be challenged.  Especially
if the claimant has wangled the perfect trifecta - a seat on govt bodies 
involved in policy making, a seat in the now discredited GBA swamp, 
and a home within the very industry responsible for Goa's destruction.
These fellows use the cover of activism to get a seat at the policy
making table to protect their own interests, but when anyone raises
concerns they are quick to shout slander.

Now, of course, it is a free country, and people are entirely free to ply their 
trade in any way they deem fit - that is their prerogative.  What they cannot
do is play on both the teams and then expect the rest of us to hold our peace.

Regards,


r


[Goanet] Goan Festival - a bit plagiarised

2010-05-19 Thread Ashuntha Pereira


Dear Editor

This is Ashuntha Pereira.

I recently read a critic that I have Plagiarised Selma's article.

I spoke to Selma regarding this matter. I have attached her email.

I really regret for this. 

I kindly request you to delete this link from your website.

http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg32688.html

Kind Regards

Ashuntha 







- Forwarded Message 
From: Selma Cardoso lescarval...@yahoo.com
To: Ashuntha Pereira ashunthapere...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: Frederick Noronha fredericknoron...@gmail.com; eddie 
eddie.fernan...@gmail.com
Sent: Mon, 17 May, 2010 13:34:01
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan Festival - a bit plagiarised


 
Dear Ashuntha,
Above is my write-up. You can see how yours is a copy of this paragraph of 
mine, sometimes word-for-word. I am also ccing this to Eddie Fernandes, on 
whose webzine my write-up appeared, it was almost two years ago. It doesn't 
matter to me. Imitation is the best form of flattery. Since then, this write-up 
of mine has also been used by another Goan website. So it really doesn't 
matter. I am just flattered.
 
Best,
Selma
 
 





 From: Ashuntha Pereira ashunthapere...@yahoo.co.uk
To: lescarval...@yahoo.com
Cc: Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com
Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 12:30:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan Festival - a bit plagiarised


d Dear Selma, 
Hi There this is Ashuntha Pereir from Gantalkatte.
I read this comment on goanet about my write up. If you think I have 
plagiarised 
your  write-up  I will ask the web master to delete it. 

If I have done that I am really sorry.  I just wanted to write about Goan 
Festival and not to plagiarised your write up.

To be honest I was not at all aware of if. One of my friend told me yesterday 
about this.

Could please let me know in which site you have seen this.I really dnot 
remember in which site I have written this. 

Please let me know.
 
Thanks and Regards

Ashuntha Pereira
  

--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ashuntha Pereira, Gantalkatte
 
 The most attraction of the festival was the Goan food fair
 which
 served all kinds of Goan traditional food in the hundreds
 of foods
 stalls. The food stalls were filled with lot chorizos,
 prawn para,
 fish mole, xacuti powder, rechad masala and mango miskut
 and so on.
 There was the familiar smell of sorpatel and pulau wafting
 in the air
 .The young boys and girls with accent and selling chorizos
 and other
 products was really amazing.
  


 From: Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com
To: Ashuntha Pereira ashunthapere...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: feedb...@goanet.org; Selma Cardoso lescarval...@yahoo.com
Sent: Sun, 16 May, 2010 15:56:02
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan Festival - a bit plagiarised

Ashuntha could you please take it up with Selma  lescarval...@yahoo.com ? 
Thanks, FN

Frederick Noronha 
+91-9822122436
+91-832-2409490




On 16 May 2010 16:40, Ashuntha Pereira ashunthapere...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

  
Hi There this is Ashuntha Pereir from Gantalkatte.
I read this comment on goanet about my write up. If you think I have 
plagiarised 
Selma's write-up could you please delete my wrtie up. 
 
If I have done that I am really sorry.  I just wanted to write about Goan 
Festival and not to plagiarised her write up.
 
Please dnt publish my this email on goanet. 
 
 
Thanks and Regards
Ashuntha Pereira
 
 
--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ashuntha Pereira, Gantalkatte
 
 The most attraction of the festival was the Goan food fair
 which
 served all kinds of Goan traditional food in the hundreds
 of foods
 stalls. The food stalls were filled with lot chorizos,
 prawn para,
 fish mole, xacuti powder, rechad masala and mango miskut
 and so on.
 There was the familiar smell of sorpatel and pulau wafting
 in the air
 .The young boys and girls with accent and selling chorizos
 and other
 products was really amazing.
 
--
Not that I want to create a controversy here, but dear Ashuntha has 
plagiarised 
my write-up, mangled it and rehashed it. As the Brits would say, I am a bit 
miffed.

selma






[Goanet] tiatr in Canada

2010-05-19 Thread manuel tavares
Eugene Correia has raised some very salient points regarding the tiatr in 
Canada. Seniors have always made up the bulk of patrons at these occasions and 
it would be a true reflection of the Tiatr Producers to acknowledge their 
contribution by having seats reserved for the Seniors. I too have been 
contemplating on the profits made out of these tiatr. If these are going 
towards enriching only a few individuals, then it it truly unfair and the 
actors who sacrifice their time and effort should be rewarded fairly for their 
efforts. 

Regarding plagiarizing plays written by others, in the guise of preserving the 
Konkai Language, this is preposterous. and the people or persons doing this can 
be charged criminally under copyright infringement laws. If one feels that a 
play is so extraordinary that every Goan should see it, why not make an 
agreement to either buy the play or let the playwright share in the profits of 
the Tiatr. In any case, the playwrights do deserve some compensation for their 
script. Selfishness will lead to the destruction of the whole spirit of tiatr 
if only a few share in the spoils. Besides, do these individuals declare these 
profits in their annual Income tax returns? this is an angle which needs to be 
explored if the proceeds are being pocketed by the top people only.


Eugene, Thanks for a fair and unbiased report.

Regards..Manuel ( Eddie) Tavares.