[Goanet-News] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)
We are not great, we have to strive to become great By Adv.Radharao F.Gracias It was sometime at the beginning of the nineteenth century that a soldier in Napoleon's army when asked to justify the incessant wars that France launched against its neighbours gave the classic reply which immortalized him. The reply: My country, therefore right. The soldier: Nicholas Chauvin. He gave us an entire new concept: Chauvinism. We, as a people, seem to have the highest regard for Chauvin and have mastered the art of chauvinism. If chauvinism were to be declared as a sport, India would sweep all medals at the Olympics. A symptom of our chauvinism is apparent in the oft repeated slogan Mera Bharat Mahan (My India is great). The question that arises, is it really so? There has been no greatness about our country, not in the last two thousand years or so. Our history is nothing but a record of invasions, conquests, subjugations and enslavement. History shows that perhaps no other country has been the victim of invasions and conquests as much as India has been. The Huns, Scythians, Parthians, Greeks, Mongols or whosoever have simply marched into the country pillaged and ransacked. As a consequence of our cowardice and failure to defend ourselves, invaders who marched in at will, marched out with booty and tens of thousands of Indians as slaves. The poor underfed vegetarians from the plains were driven ruthlessly over the mountains of Afghanistan, where they died like flies, as history records. The mountains themselves came to be known as Hindu Kush Mountains. Hindu Kush does not mean Hindu happy; it means Hindu killer, in the local language. Geographically, the country was by far the most defensible against battle technology available in those days. The Himalayas form a huge bulwark towards the north. No invader, has crossed the Himalayas into India until the Chinese 1962. The eastern borders with Burma are rugged hills. No invader had come, from the East, until the Japanese advanced over 7,000 kms from their island home to reach Kohima during the Second World War. The South has a vast ocean around it. No invader entered from the sea till Afonso de Albuquerque conquered Goa in the sixteenth century. All previous invasions into the country were overland from the West. And there were just two routes of entry into the country; the Bolan Pass and the Khyber pass. Most of the invaders poured in through the Khyber pass which is about thirty four kilometers long and in places only three metres wide. There was no other entry point into the country. However it never occurred to our countrymen to fortify the passes and permanently block access to invaders. In this context, I am reminded of the designer advertisements being released by the Indian army inviting fellow Indians to join the army. The advertisements are couched in a language which practically seem to suggest that the Indian army is a five star hotel with all sorts of facilities for those who join it. Despite such enticing advertisements, the shortage of manpower in the army has mounted to fourteen thousand officers. If we have to join the army there is only one reason to do so; and that is because the country needs the soldiers to defend it. It is here that patriotism comes in. No other reason is required. One point two billion people and we are running short of fourteen thousand officers. Can you beat that? I have seen how when the Government of Goa announces vacancies for police sub inspectors, thousands of Goans apply and are known to have paid bribe price of up to Rs.15,00,000 to be selected. I understand that shortly another batch of sub inspectors is to be recruited. The bribe price has reportedly touched Rs.25,00,000. Mark my words, there would be thousands, seeking to pull strings and willing to pay the bribe price to be selected. None of these applicants for PSIs would go anywhere near an army selection camp where one would be gladly and freely selected. Who wants to be at risk of being killed in the battlefront when it is much easier to make a killing in the police force? That's our patriotism. I often wonder about the Sangh Parivar which today seems to hold a monopoly on patriotism. The RSS itself claims a membership of over twenty five million cadres who dressed in khaki are frequently seen marching in military formation. The Bajrang Dal, Ram Sene and the VHP have their tough-looking volunteers who have unleashed their 'patriotism' in Gujarat, Karnataka and not very long ago at Fontainhas in Panaji too. So presumably, the Sangh Parivar is full of young energetic country men willing to defendant the country's honour. That being so, why does the RSS and its sister organizations not hold camps of its patriotic sevaks and call upon the army, to
[Goanet-News] Anyone out there in Brussels?
Some art objects of the Museum of Christian Art at Old Goa and the (former) Prince of Wales Museum at Mumbai are also being exhibited here. You can visit my images of these art objects here: Goa: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157623584762555/ [Don't miss the silver casket and the belt made of gold coins!] Mumbai: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157623784396754/ * * * Exhibition in Brussels: A Passage to Asia Photo taken on June 24, 2010 shows a Statue of Saint Margaret of Antioch from Goa India during the press opening day of the Exhibition A Passage to Asia in Brussels, capital of Belgium. More than 300 relics from museums of 16 Asian countries show the 25 centuries of exchange between Asia and Europe. The exhibition will last to October, when the 8th Asia-Europe Summit will be held in Brussels. (Xinhua/Wu Wei) * * * Asian-European Exhibition Opens in Belgium Written by E.Bayannasan Tuesday, June 29, 2010. There are Mongolian best works of art in a special exhibition named “A Passage to Asia”, which was opens in the Fine Arts Center of Brussels, Belgium on June 25, 2010. The exhibition is being held within the framework of 8th Asia-Europe Meeting, which will be hosted in Brussels. Over 400 works of art from a total of 16 Asian-European countries are being displayed in there. Ambassador of Mongolia to Belgium Battur Avirmed took part in the opening ceremony of the exhibition and there are over 20 works of art of Mongolia in the exhibition. In addition, Mongolian President Ts.Elbegdorj will visit this exhibition during his participation in the ASEM to run in October 4-5, 2010. The Exhibition is available for public viewing until October 10, 2010. Frederick Noronha +91-9822122436 +91-832-2409490
Re: [Goanet] Conversation with Churchill Alemao (in defense of Arwin -Agnelo Pinheiro)
I whole-heartedly second Agnelo's bold message. Power to sincere people. Power to sincerity. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org - Original Message - From: pinheiro gift.pinhe...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 1:21 AM Subject: [Goanet] Conversation with Churchill Alemao (in defense of Arwin -Agnelo Pinheiro) Arwin, The remarks about you by our adversary were paid advertisement or else Alaric Gomes, Senior Reporter of Gulf News should had clarified with you before publishing the report. The keyboard is showing some signs of ruckus in political circles. Keep doing what you think is right follow your heart, at times people do hurt. Remember, Great revolutions started with small people. Great Kings were toppled by minuscule peasants. Agnelo Pinheiro
Re: [Goanet] We was robbed?
Frederick Noronha wrote; Don't you think the Germans were just fighting for their fair share of colonies then? FN, I spent half my life being taught, first by nuns, then by the socialist, then by communist and finally by the capitalist, on their version of what happened in the past. The past is one area where some people just cannot get out off. I would like to spend what is left of my life deciding what the future will be. Both for myself and for others. Mervyn1650Lobo
[Goanet] Know your neighbours
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[Goanet] Barking dogs ?
*I* am not fit to be in the company of our great Churchill bab. But here I am venturing to say something to my fellow Goans which could attract criticism a la Churchill's squealing pigs. We Goans are like barking dogs that bark at different but nevertheless wrong trees. If all the zelassos, arwins, bernardos etc. could get together and put pressure on the Goa Government to discourage the obscenity called Tourism in Goa , half of our problems would have been solved overnight. Any takers ?
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (29Jun10)
*** Goa: Safe Destination - Tourism Dept *** Teacher says Yes...Safe...But for Illegal Mining...Mega Projects...Sex...Corruption...Underground Politicians...! To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] Daily Grook #740
DAILY GROOK #740 = AXED TEXT = by Francis Rodrigues dumping her by sms cld get real vexed, to avoid this mess prepare a pretext! *GREAT ALL-OCCASION GIFT* http://www.KonkaniSongBook.com sheet-music,tab,lyrics,chords of great Konkani pop hits GOA: PEDRO FERNANDES: Tel.2226642 FURTADOS: Tel.2223278 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119017685910 _ Learn more ways to connect with your buddies now http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734388
[Goanet] Sacred Heart , Parra 100 years!
Shri Antonio, I thought that you posted names of chaps from the pre 61 period. I am surprised by your comment about pre 61 education when your school itself was established in 1912. Besides a post on GN is subject to query or debate. It is time to get real and stop being an infant - I am referring to your comments on the last line of your first para. BC Dear Mr. Colaco, For one thing the report initiated by me was focusing on the aspect of the Centenary of the School and remembering and honouring the great personalities of the past; for another thing post '61, the school certainly has not produced cynics and bitter frustrated people who crow and drool about a regime which was shaken off from Goan soil like a flea off a dog! Post '61 the school has produced people across the spectrum of vocations and professions - priests, doctors, lawyers, chartered accountants, engineers, but most of all educated citizens, who under the previous regime could not have even dreamt of acquiring, a learning. Best wishes, Tony
[Goanet] Ivo Coelho's, Philosophical Musings blog
Three interesting posts below from Ivo Coelho on his blog http://ivophil.blogspot.com/ William Richardson, SJ 25 June 2010 http://ivophil.blogspot.com/2010/06/william-richardson-sj.html Retrieving Good Work 24 June 2010 http://ivophil.blogspot.com/2010/06/retrieving-good-work.html Functional history 8 June 2010 http://ivophil.blogspot.com/2010/06/functional-history.html *Mundaka Upanishad* 3.2.3 You cannot have the knowledge of the Supreme Soul by means of reasoning, erudition, or studying of the Vedas; Only through causeless mercy does He reveal His own person unto him whom He does accept as His own. venantius j pinto
Re: [Goanet] Dignity of labour
soter wrote: Some of my friends have been kind enough to personally point out that one of my postings on goanet gave the impression that I held certain type of jobs in contempt... It is in that context that I expressed that I am proud to be struggling in my homeland Goa and not cleaning the toilets of europeans. I in no way hold that cleaning toilets is a lesser job but the comparison was used to drive home a point. In fact I have great respect for people doing jobs which are looked down upon by society. If we had the same in our home State we would not have hordes of migrants invading us. I myself do certain jobs which Goans look down upon. Plumbing and sanitary engineering -- to give it a good name -- is a crucial task. Obviously, we in Goa have a lot of unfinished tasks on this front too. Unfortunately, we leave it to many of shit jobs (literally) to poor migrants to do, in Goa too. At the same time as we pour scorn and shit (metaphorically) on their head at the least excuse. In this context, I would salute the foresight of a Bideshwar Pathak http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bindeshwar_Pathak Foresights, concerns and agenda-setting by people like him have had a huge dent far and wide. It has, in fact, even helped urban Goa to have access to sustainable sanitation more in keeping with the needs of the time. FN
Re: [Goanet] Goan Tolerance (Letter in Goan Daily OHeraldo)
On 29 June 2010 08:20, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: BTW: The last day to legally prevent uninhibited migration into Goa was Dec 19, 1961 Was there no large-scale migration into Goa before Dec 19, 1961? Where did all the Goans come from then? And were all our rulers before then Goan too? FN PS: I know you will turn around to say the in-migration then wasn't so proportionately large. But please do a fact-check on your history, who is labelled an insider and who an outsider.
Re: [Goanet] The Website of Goa Su-Raj Party [GSRP] -www.goasu-raj.org
On 29 June 2010 11:11, floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com wrote: Rico, Thanks for capping our happiness. You would probably have the know-how how to cook the website 'hit -counter'. Kindly share it with us. Maybe it would help to give people some reason to visit your site regularly. What would attract them there? People want to read something that is more than an advertisement. Secondly, it might help to carry a link to your site (specially, to the latest posts on it) in your .sig (signature) file. Also, you could briefly tell readers on Goanet and other lists, Goa-related forums etc whenever you update your site with something significant. Above all, content is important. Lastly, it would surely help if you cross-pollinated between your site and other 'social' networks like Facebook, Twitter, Orkut and the like (very much of catchwords these days, but they have their utility too). Others could correct me and add to this debate, I'm no expert on SEO and related issues! FN
Re: [Goanet] Goan Tolerance (Letter in Goan Daily OHeraldo)
On 29 June 2010 04:57, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: Was there no large-scale migration into Goa before Dec 19, 1961? did all the Goans come from then? And were all our rulers before then Goan too? FN == Response: 1: While what FN says is correct, his statement refers to a tangential point I was not making. 2: I invite FN to concentrate on the phrase 'legally prevent uninhibited migration'.as in immigration control, which, I submit once again to Arwin, cannot be applied post 1961. 3: I will further add here that, even to (say) the UK and USA, there has large scale migration. But those countries have had and still do have the capability to 'legally prevent uninhibited migration'. jc Earlier I had stated this: BTW: The last day to legally prevent uninhibited migration into Goa was Dec 19, 1961
[Goanet] Is demand for State Human Rights Commission will solve mining created problems in Goa?
Few days back Dr. Nandkumar Kamat from department of Botany at Goa University made a poignant suggestion to begin solving of woes of Goa’s mining affected region in one of his mails to goanet mailing list. He pondered whether mining generated problems can be interpreted as Human Rights issue. If yes then why then cannot be addressed as such. Further he said that it is important that there lobbying work must begin to set up State Human Rights commission as a first step towards finding legal way out of the imbroglio. This is a very interesting interjection in the ongoing discourse on mining in Goa. This article is an attempt to explore this further. In mining generated hardships to people in Goa a human rights issue? To reply to this would be: Mining generated hardships in Goa is also human rights issue but in no way only human rights issue. It is directly human rights issue in a sense that there are over 50 instances of police repression on people resisting mining wrath in various parts of Goa. Some of the cases have also been referred to National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) by people in mining belt of Goa. The rest of the aspects relating to water, air, traffic, forest, land, fisheries very tricky to interpretation as Human Rights issue simply because these are grey areas still being debated in various case laws. The large focus is still on the first generation of Human Rights. We in India have still a long way before dust settles down to recognize second and third generation Human Rights. Surely it would as the jurisprudence finds itself robustly grounded in near future. It is not the only human rights issue largely because there is large number of government agencies – central as well as state agencies involved in the perpetuation of mining industry in Goa in the manner it is proceeding currently. Also lager number of dimension involved besides Human rights. There is an important dimension of security of country at risk with continues depletion of minerals due to exports. The country in near future will be left with very little mineral if every reserve is exploited for exports. There is sober silence on this aspect from intellectuals in Goa. Why? There is also dimension of conservation of minerals for domestic use in future. Our current rage of exploitation is reckless. We are in a mighty hurry to fill up coffers of British Vedanta (that owns Dempo mining company in Goa and Sesa Goa mining company in India) and rest of the brutish mining companies in Goa, build up economy of Japan (as we done it since 1948 after it was reduced to ashes after Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuclear bombings by USA in 1945), and massive fuelling of economic growth of China. Our intellectuals in the centers of higher learning are yet to apply their minds to this aspect. They are yet calculate what is the cost of ore that we exported over the past 60 years, to which countries, which companies exported how much, how much companies profited, how much foreign exchange Indian government earned? How much Goa government earned as revenue since its liberation? How much colonial Portuguese colonial government benefited from mining industry so as to continue retaining Goa as its colony till 1961? What was role of mining companies in colonial state? What is the role of mining companies in governance of the state of Goa since 1961 till date? It is not the only Human Rights issue also because almost every major aspect of Goa’s life influenced by mining industry. We hardly have proper audit done in this regard. We only have propaganda of the mining companies that reinforces hegemonic dominance of mining industry over Goa. As a result our minds are constantly filled with negative entropy. Our intellectuals in the centres of learning instead of countering this have involved in furthering this proliferation of confusion to the infinity. One of them Dr. Nandkumar Kamat has been circulating extracts of mining companies welfare work besides flamboyant sarcasm in prose as well as poetry full of innuendos on people involved in resisting mining industry (without naming them) as well as praises to politician from mining company. Another one Dr. A.G.Chachadi from department of Earth Sciences, Goa University in his reply to PIL at Bombay High Court at Panaji has heaped nasty sarcasm on people of Sirgao who has been active in their struggle for survival from mining industry. He carried on number of studies for mining industries and details ware furnished by Goa University in rely to RTI. Third one Dr. Untawale , former director of National Institute of Oceanography, Dona Paula publicly scolded Villager from Pissurlem who demanded that mining companies supply water to their paddy fields. This was on 1st April 2001 at Old Goa Panchayat Hall, Tiswadi. Later on he went to sign the report that in Panchwadi there are no mangroves even though it is densely mangrove populated. He did this in order to back up Sesa Goa’s plans to build exclusive
[Goanet] Pacheco's wife question by crime branch
The Goa police crime branch on Tuesday quizzed former state tourism minister Fransisco Pacheco's estranged wife Sara in connection with Nadia Torrado death case. Sara, who is facing a divorce petition from Pacheco, arrived at the Crime Branch along with Auda Viegas, President of NGO 'Bailancho Ekvott'. Sara is being questioned over the death of 28-year-old Nadia, who died after allegedly consumed rat poison on May 30. Pacheco along with his close aide, Lyndon Monteiro, are accused in the case. The duo is absconding ever since the Crime branch accused them for Nadia's death. Viegas said that Sara married Pacheco in 1999 and their marriage is on the rocks since 2004. In December 2008, Sara filed a complaint of domestic violence against Pacheco claiming that he abused her often and threw her out of the house. Subsequently, in January 2009, Pacheco filed a divorce petition seeking to separate from Sara. Sara has also filed a complaint of forgery against Pacheco last year alleging that he sold all her flats and a vehicle, which was in her name. Viegas said that Sara was not well and could not attend the summons, which were issued earlier. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969
[Goanet] Comparison of Health outcome in six developed countries
Subject: Comparison of Health outcome in six developed countries
[Goanet] World Cup 2010 - Portugal vs.Spain
This evening Spaniards and the Portuguese will battle for supremacy on a football field at Cape Town near the Cape of Good Hope. It would appear that Spain is in a stronger position to win the battle but if the mythical giant Adamastor who ruled the stormy seas at the intersection of Atlantic and Indian oceans, deigns to smile upon his old enemies i.e. the Portuguese sailors of the 15th century then perhaps Portugal may sail through to the quarter final stage.
[Goanet] RESEARCH PUBLICATIONS RELEASED AT ST. XAVIER’S, MAPUSA
2010-06-29
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ST. XAVIER'S COLLEGE OF ARTS, SCIENCE COMMERCE -MAPUSA - GOA - INDIA - 403507 (0832-2262356-www.xavierscollege-goa.com)
RESEARCH PUBLICATIONS RELEASED AT ST. XAVIER’S, MAPUSA A solemn Eucharistic Celebration presided over by the Episcopal Vicar, South Zone, and Responsible for the Apostolate of Education in the Archdiocese of Goa and Daman, was held on 26th June, 2010, to mark the inaugural of the new academic year 2010-2011. Reflecting on the theme of the Mass, “Xikxonnachem karia follaborit kor, Jezu; Zann’vaien ani kurpen ami vaddot vochum”, he stated that the development is the outcome of quality education for which purpose God’s assistance is essential. While advising the students, “to be good” and “do good”, he observed that the words, good and God are intertwined, and if the letters g o d are removed from the word ‘good’, then the letter that remains is ‘o’, i.e. zero, implying, thereby, that we cannot be good and do good if we do not possess God within us. On this occasion, a cultural programme was put up by the students. An instrumental piece, “prelude (te Deum) by Charpentier was executed by the College Orchestra. In his welcome speech, the Principal, Dr. (Fr.) Walter de Sa, stated that around 1,000 freshers had joined St. Xavier’s, and he welcomed them and all others expressing the hope that all challenges would be met successfully in collaboration with teaching and non-teaching staff. All the meritorious students were then felicitated with a token of appreciation; and the students, employed under the scheme of Xikta, Xikta, Zodd, were presented with a certificate at the hands of the Chief Guest. Three research publications were also released; (1) Proceedings of the Seminar on “Human Rights and Environment: A Focus on Goa”, published by the Department of Political Science; (2) Proceedings of the Seminar on “Impact of Climate Change,” by the Department of Physics, and; (3) A book on Medicinal and Aromatic Plants by the Centre for Medicinal and Aromatic Plants, Department of Botany. Ms. Tricia Vaz, Head, Department of Political Science, Mr. Nelson Lobo from the Department of Physics, and Dr. Maria Fonseca, Head, Department of Botany, gave a brief outline of the publications. Dr. Filipe Rodrigues e Melo, from the Department of Commerce, delivered lectio brevis on “The Impact of Recession on Select Indian Service Sectors: A Study on Strategic Alternatives.” Ms. Larissa de Souza, Third Year B.Sc. shared her experiences in the College and welcomed the freshers. Mark Pereira, Second Year B.Com. proposed the vote of thanks, while Meenal Bale (Second Year B.A.) and Jonathan Rodrigues (Second Year B.A.) proposed the vote of thanks. The programme ended with the college anthem. Dr. (Fr.) Walter de Sá PRINCIPAL St. Xavier's College of Arts, Science Commerce, Xaviernagar, Mapusa - Goa - 403507 - INDIA.
[Goanet] COLUMN: The Goan picnic song medley continues
The Goan picnic song medley continues She’ll be eating kaalchi koddi when she comes By Cecil Pinto Haiii Y Y Yiii In China they do it with chillies The chillies are hot And God knows for what In China they do it with chillies There was a man from Raia Who wanted to start a fire Feni got him high But we don’t know why Smoke always got him higher Haiii Y Y Yiii In China they do it with chillies The chillies are hot And God knows for what In China they do it with chillies There was a woman from Curca Tried seducing a man from Varca The poor guy was shy This was his reply “Let’s wait until it gets darker” Haiii Y Y Yiii In China they do it with chillies The chillies are hot And God knows for what In China they do it with chillies There was an aunty from Baina Who said , “Atam mhaka zainam” When paying a debt She loudly wept “Mhoje kodden kain na!” Possorkarni possorkani Di ghe mhaka bread Please don’t charge me V-A-T I’ll pay MRP instead Possorkarni possorkarni Don’t you dare be rude With the prices these days I know I’m getting screwed Oh when the saints, go marching in, Oh when the saints go marching in Oh Lord, will they give me the number So I too can live like a King Oh from the Open, right to the Close, Oh from the Open right to the Close. Oh Lord, I need that lucky matka number Whether Main, Star or Kalyan Anil tow the boat ashore Anil tow the boat ashore Hallelujah! Anil’s ship ran aground Anil’s ship ran aground Hallelujah! Anil says he cares a damn Anil says he cares a damn Hallelujah! Go’rments come, go’rments go Go’rments come, go’rments go Hallelujah! Anil tow the boat ashore Anil tow the boat ashore Hallelujah! Oh, you can't get to heaven On roller skates 'Cause you'd roll right by Those pearly gates Oh, you can't pass through Quepem, With your armour down, Cause the mining trucks Will mow you down Oh, you can't breathe in Sanguem, Without a mask Cause there’s mining dust there, From dawn till dusk Oh, you can't get away From that mining money We’re all polluted Aren’t we honey? Woe is me. Shame and scandal in the family! Woe, it worries me. Shame and scandal in the family! In Sanquelim there was a family With much confusion as you will see. There was a Mama and a Papa and a boy who was grown, He wanted to have, a party of his own. He saw a small party, which suited him nice. He went to his Papa to ask his advice. His Papa said: Son, I have to say no, That party is also mine, but not many know! Woe is me. Shame and scandal in the family! Woe, it worries me. Shame and scandal in the family! In Benaulim there was a family With much confusion as you will see. There was a man and a brother and an ex-CM The man wanted to bring a party down. He saw a big party, which suited him nice. He went to his brother to ask his advice. His brother said Irmao, I have to say no, That party is yours, and mine also! Woe is me. Shame and scandal in the family! Woe, it worries me. Shame and scandal in the family! O Xezanni Let’s go to the Caju Trees Caju crop was bad this year Feni will be even more dear O Xezanni Let’s go to the Caju Trees So what if they are full of ants I’ve got antidote in my pants Oh my darling, oh my darling, Oh my darling, NRI Thou art lost and gone forever Dreadful sorry, NRI Distant preaching, distant screeching, Does nothing NRI If you want to, then do something, Oh my darling NRI Walk the talk dear, walk the talk dear, Oh my darling NRI Put your money, where your mouth is, Oh my darling NRI Malai-ka! That’s the one with the cream Malai-ka! Things are not what they seem When the tender coconut vendor Ask you what type you want Don’t pause for a moment If you like the flesh, just shout, Malai-ka! That’s the one with the cream Malai-ka! Things are not what they seem Singing aye aye yipee yippee aye Aye aye yippee yippe aye Singing aye aye yippee Aye aye yippie Aye aye yippie yippie aye They'll be comin' round the mountain When they come, They'll be comin' round the mountain When they come, They'll be comin' round the mountain, They'll be comin' round the mountain, They'll be comin' round the mountain, When they come. They'll be drivin' JCBs When they come, They’ll be driving Caterpillars When they come They’ll be driving orange trucks They’ll be driving orange trucks They’ll be driving orange trucks When they come There will be no mountains When they’re done There will be no forests When they’re done There will be no fields There will be no fields There will be no fields When they’re done Singing aye aye yipee yippee aye Aye aye yippee yippe aye Singing aye aye yippee Aye aye yippie Aye aye yippie yippie aye There won’t be pink pyjamas When they come There won’t be red pyjamas When they come You’ll be wearing nothing You’ll be wearing nothing You’ll be wearing nothing When they’re done (ENDS)
[Goanet] COLUMN: Congress backstabs its youth
Congress backstabs its youth By Nisser Dias nisserdias at gmail.com SMS to 9422437029 This Monday, while the High Court strengthened the faith of the general public in the judiciary by denying bail to disgraced MLA and former Tourism minister Mickky Pacheco and his sidekick Lyndon Monteiro, the Congress party in Goa disgraced itself, its supporters and more importantly the youth congress members by accepting Taleigao MLA and Education minister Babush Monserrate in its partyfold. I know the judiciary and political parties are poles apart, but the feeling of the general public or the aam admi was one of elation and at the same time of despair. While the judiciary was trying to bring a high profile MLA to justice, the Congress party was resurrecting another equally brash legislator with a criminal record. Whatever said and done about the country’s oldest party, a large section of the population has some faith in the Congress, but very often this goodwill and hope of the masses is sought to be crushed, when this particular political party indulges in hara-kiri. Acceptance of Babush Monserrate in the partyfold is termed as the return of the prodigal. I fail to understand in which party the Taleigao MLA will not be a prodigal. He started his political career with the United Goans Democratic Party (UGDP), then joined the BJP, thereafter the Congress, then back to UGDP and now back to Congress. In the bible the prodigal son returns to his father. In case of Babush Monserrate he returns to the party in power as to safeguard his interests and be in power. Moreover the prodigal son in the parable offered to be a servant of the father, I dare the Education minister to resign as a legislator and be a pen-pusher in the party office. Only maybe then, he could be seen as a prodigal otherwise a despot. If one analyses Atanasio Babush Monserrate’s track record, be it political or otherwise, it is crystal clear that he is sort of a maverick and a rebel. He is not the kind of a person to stick by rules or act according to the book. He has got his own mind and has never accepted ‘no’ for answer. He himself has confirmed this trait of his, when the Congress refused a party ticket for his wife Jennifer to contest assembly election from St. Cruz in 2007; he had made his unhappiness amply clear to the party and walked out of the office in a huff. After ditching the Congress in the eleventh hour and filing nominations on the UGDP ticket, he had told the journalists, “I had told the Congress that I would teach them a lesson and I did it, I am a man of my words.” These words are recorded in the archives of the electronic media in Goa. The Congress party in Goa is like a brothel, where anybody and everybody are free to come and go, as and when they feel. In 2007 the then Congress spokesman Sanjay Nirupam had said the party wouldn’t have any truck with Monserrates in future as he ditched the party at the eleventh hour, but today you see just the opposite. And it is not surprising because most of the Congress ministers and MLA’s in Goa have left the party at one point or the other including the chief minister and party president, infact Subhash Shirodkar has the dubious record of leaving the party highest number of times to be closely followed by PWD minister Churchill Alemao. Be that as it may, in January this year scion of the Gandhi family Rahul visited Goa, now he is seen as the force behind the Youth urging the youngsters to join politics to cleanse it, his exact words were “You either play the game or go home. Don’t be a commentator be a player.” The acceptance of Taleigao MLA in to the partyfold is bound to demoralize members of the Youth Congress, because in the year 2007, many members of the youth wing of Congress were brutally assaulted by Babush and his supporters when they were holding a morcha to demand resumption of work at the Rajiv Gandhi IT habitat in Dona Paula, which was forcibly stopped by Taleigao MLA. The youth are still nursing a grudge against the legislator for his action. However now they are left gaping as Madam Sonia Gandhi gave the green signal for Babush’s entry, while Rahul Gandhi has been left to swallow his words. That aside, the youth Congress do not have the nerve to stand up and object to Babush’s entry nor do they have the will to denounce the move of the Congress president to admit Babush into partyfold. The question now, will Rahul Gandhi come to the aid of the members of the Youth Congress, who already faced blows, lathis and stones at the hands of the Education minister. Their demand for a thorough probe into the merciless attack on them is bound to be vitiated or take a backseat. Furthermore, will the Youth Congress members have the guts to depose against their own minister or will they accept Babush’s largesse and clamp-up is to be seen? If the youth congress members have any pride in themselves, they should
[Goanet] WORKSHOP ON KITCHEN GARDENING, THE ORGANIC WAY
WORKSHOP ON KITCHEN GARDENING, THE ORGANIC WAY On: 4th July 2010, 10 am to 4 pm. Venue: Goa Chitra, the Museum, St. John the Baptist Road, Pulvado, Benaulim. Organised by: Goa Chitra, Benaulim in association with Vardaan Bookstore and Ecoshop, Margao Registration: Rs. 250 inclusive of lunch, training and tour of the museum. Books, garden implements, inputs and seeds will be kept for sale at the venue. Ph.: Eula 9527463684 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 9527463684 end_of_the_skype_highlighting to register Read all Goanet messages at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/
[Goanet] U.S. players mull what might have been
U.S. players mull what might have been Email Print Associated Press What Is The Future For USA Soccer? After it crashed out of the 2010 World Cup, what does the future hold for the U.S. national team?What Is The Future For USA Soccer? IRENE, South Africa -- They started scattering Sunday to the United States and Europe, never to come together as a group again. All the optimism had vanished, four years of planning and effort foiled by a debilitating defense, faltering forwards and, in the ultimate insult to their pride, a sudden realization the most-talented soccer team in American history still wasn't good enough to consistently compete with the world's best. Postmortem on U.S.' World Cup run What have we learned since the U.S. team arrived in South Africa in late May? Five things, for starters, writes Jeff Carlisle. Story It's one thing to believe in miracles. It's another to rely on them, writes David Hirshey. Story Following the U.S.' early ouster from the WCup, Luke Cyphers and Doug McIntyre mull the fate of several key cogs. Story There's a pretty empty feeling right now because I think coming out of the first round, we felt that there was a real chance of doing something bigger, U.S. coach Bob Bradley said the day after a 2-1 overtime loss to Ghana eliminated the Americans in the World Cup's second round. While the roosters crowed at Irene Farm and people streamed in for brunch, it was the last day for the American soccer team in South Africa, where players arrived May 31 filled with optimism and enthusiasm. They're leaving dismayed. Some headed out Sunday, most planned to depart Monday. Part of the group was going home to the United States, another to homes in England and Europe. Many of these players will never see a World Cup again. What went wrong? Pretty simple to discern. For the four games, we were only ahead for two minutes, Bradley said (actually it was three) after reviewing the recording of Saturday's loss. The one side is just the maturity, the experience of knowing sometimes early in the game how to manage the game. Now the U.S. team is off until Aug. 10, when it plays Brazil in an exhibition at the New Meadowlands Stadium in East Rutherford, N.J. Bradley already is thinking about that game, but he may not be there. “ That's still the greatest challenge in the game -- to be someone who can consistently score goals. So it's an area where we do need to improve.” -- Bob Bradley Bradley took over from Bruce Arena after the U.S. made a first-round exit in 2006, getting the job only after Juergen Klinsmann withdrew. Bradley said he and U.S. Soccer Federation president Sunil Gulati need time to make an assessment. At this moment, there's been no conversations, Bradley said. I've always enjoyed new challenges, but I also from Day 1 have said and consider it a tremendous honor to coach the national team. Even if Bradley returns, the defense needs a complete overhaul, a process that will start to unfold between August and next year's CONCACAF Gold Cup. New players will be tested by 2012, when qualifying starts for the 2014 World Cup in Brazil. Oguchi Onyewu showed he hadn't fully regained mobility following knee surgery last October. Jay DeMerit and captain Carlos Bocanegra were a step late at key moments, leaving the openings that led to goals. In some cases, there's players that still can help the team, but you're not certain what that will mean in four years time, Bradley said. In other cases, you feel guys have gotten experience and now for them to continue in their clubs to make progress will be critical for success for the national team. And then there's the part of determining who are the next set of young players that need to be pushed into it. Bocanegra and Steve Cherundolo are 31, DeMerit 30 and Onyewu 28. Bradley finally admitted it would be impossible for Gooch to be at 100 percent given his seven-month layoff. Clarence Goodson, who didn't get into a game, is 28. Jonathan Spector (24) and Jonathan Bornstein (25) have a chance to be back in four years, along with two players who were cut: Chad Marshall and Heath Pearce (both 25). There are numerous candidates to weave into the player pool, including Gale Agbossoumonde (18), Eric Lichaj (21), Omar Gonzalez (21), Ike Opara (21), Kevin Alston (22) and Tim Ream (22). Lichaj and Agbossoumonde already have gone to Europe, a path that has helped players gain spots on the national team. Just four of the 23 players on this year's World Cup roster are with Major League Soccer clubs, including Landon Donovan, who spent part of this year with Everton. Now 28, Donovan is the best American player ever, and if he's going to make a permanent move to Europe, this is the time. With three World Cup goals, he was the undisputed star of the U.S. team, and Everton manager David Moyes appears to want him back if a deal can be worked out with the Los Angeles Galaxy. Midfield is the U.S.
Re: [Goanet] The Website of Goa Su-Raj Party [GSRP]-www.goasu-raj.org
Dear Rico, Thank you for the tips. You must realise that I am no expert in websites and their cross polinations. I am simply doing the job of keeping Goans in Goa as well in diaspora informed what is happening in Goa and what our reaction is to it. Mostly because the newspapers feel that goasuraj is insignificant to publish what it writes. We have not intended this site as a commercial base for the party. It is purely an informative tool to tell Goans what the party is all about and what it thinks about the issues. I cross post my comments which I post on goanet etc on the website purely to keep Goans who may not be the subscibers of goanet etc. If people want to read interesting articles then let them surf for the newspapers. If they want to know what Goa Su-Raj thinks about something, then let them hit the website. You have made your statement in your earlier post. Now don't go justifying it. As a matter of fact today's hits total around 180, crossing the 128 mark of yesterday. This is good enough for us to be happy about since we are small people and small things pleases small minds. Cheers floriano goasuraj www.goasu-raj.org - Original Message - From: Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] The Website of Goa Su-Raj Party [GSRP]-www.goasu-raj.org On 29 June 2010 11:11, floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com wrote: Rico, Thanks for capping our happiness. You would probably have the know-how how to cook the website 'hit -counter'. Kindly share it with us. Maybe it would help to give people some reason to visit your site regularly. What would attract them there? People want to read something that is more than an advertisement. Secondly, it might help to carry a link to your site (specially, to the latest posts on it) in your .sig (signature) file. Also, you could briefly tell readers on Goanet and other lists, Goa-related forums etc whenever you update your site with something significant. Above all, content is important. Lastly, it would surely help if you cross-pollinated between your site and other 'social' networks like Facebook, Twitter, Orkut and the like (very much of catchwords these days, but they have their utility too). Others could correct me and add to this debate, I'm no expert on SEO and related issues! FN
[Goanet] tarvoteachim bondolam
I would like to clarify that I believe in dignity of labour and did not mean to condemn certain goans doing some menial jobs abroad to earn their living. My remarks were in the background of some derogatory remarks made against us back home by a couple of NRIs on goanet in the course of a discussion that ensued on the use of the term 'tarvoteachim bondolam' Comments : It is only in India that many people look down on low paid jobs by calling thembhungis, jaddoo walla, metrani etc. This is wrong as every job is important and essential unlike begging. Due to this mentality Goans abroad are willing to do any job (ofcourse they are paid well) and not prepared to do the same jobs back home and look down on others doing these jobs and unwilling to do the jobs even in their own homes. Abroad even a cleaner will drive a car and is on par with other office jobs. It is nice that Soter has clarified that he does not look down on jobs whether we hold a professional job, skilled or unskilled, clerical or menial. We are earning our bread and making our living and not begging. Thanks and best wishes, Camilo _ The world on four wheels in MSN Autos http://autos.in.msn.com/
[Goanet] OUR PLIGHT in GOA !!
*This was published in the Oheraldo. Its a nice little cartoon clip which makes u giggle but think about it on a serious note.Very soon this will be a reality.* *We talk of Global Warming, we talk of shortage in water supply, we talk about the water table not conducive, we talk about so much damage to the environment. Unfortunately our Government, THE CURRENT and THE PAST have only plundered and looted us and brought us to this state of affairs we are now in. Major projects are being approved in the name of development , in the name of employment, but please believe me they are approved at a cut or a commission or a under the table deal to fill the so called ministers pocket. NO PROJECT today goes through without a minister getting his percentage or the so called CUT.Thats the very reason no Public project completed stands the test of time as the contractors reduce the standard of Quality on the project to maximize their profits. Lets talk of the recent drug deal or the nexus between the police and the drug dealer and the so called Politician son's. The case is getting weaker and weaker as the clock ticks by. How in the first place did the law , the CID put the Police officers behind bar for so long if there was no case or evidence , this clearly needs a lot to justify ! What about the ticket scam,what about the River Princess that has been marooned in the north? why is it still there after so many years? How many years does it take to Float a tender. We need to realize that the past and the present Government HAS, IS and WILL take us for a ride if we keep a blind eye. Lets wake up and not be treated like puppets. Its high time we have the right qualified literate people on board, people who at least have some values if not many to represent and to work for the welfare of human kind. Regards Renoir*
[Goanet] Subject: Re: Goan Tolerance (Letter in Goan Daily OHeraldo) Message-ID:
Agree with JC's letter that migration cannot be prevented. But, is it not possible to put CURBS on wanton, unrestricted housing projects which are mushrooming all over the state. The bhailes see Goa as a nice milch animal which is tolerant, totally indisciplined and susegad, where they can do as they want with no restrictions at all. They can buy land build multistorey ugly buildings sell the flats and make their money and who gives them the permission to do so is the question. We must understand that these bhailes have no real love or feeling for our State. Already the Candolim, Calangute, Baga belt is just an ugly stretch.. What a pretty place it was upto the 70s. The beaches are filthy (just like Juhu), littered with garbage and nobody cares anymore.
Re: [Goanet] Sacred Heart , Parra 100 years!
Exmo Sr. Bernardo, I am referring to your comments on the last line of your first para. Sir, If the cap fits you, then wear it. Posts on GN are subject to debate no doubt, but then cynical posts like yours deserve the treatment that they get. If you must debate something then be constructive. It is you who need to grow up to the simple reality that Goa is a part of Mother India - whether by annexation, liberation, conquest or by whatever. The Portuguese empire is kaput, finis or to use a Brithish expression, the sun has set on it! Let me finish with a small quote from John F. Kennedy, FYI, a great American President: Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future -- Tony de Sa. tonydesa at gmail dot com M : +91 9975 162 897 Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
[Goanet] Anyone out there in Brussels?
Some art objects of the Museum of Christian Art at Old Goa and the (former) Prince of Wales Museum at Mumbai are also being exhibited here. You can visit my images of these art objects here: Goa: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157623584762555/ [Don't miss the silver casket and the belt made of gold coins!] Mumbai: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157623784396754/ * * * Exhibition in Brussels: A Passage to Asia Photo taken on June 24, 2010 shows a Statue of Saint Margaret of Antioch from Goa India during the press opening day of the Exhibition A Passage to Asia in Brussels, capital of Belgium. More than 300 relics from museums of 16 Asian countries show the 25 centuries of exchange between Asia and Europe. The exhibition will last to October, when the 8th Asia-Europe Summit will be held in Brussels. (Xinhua/Wu Wei) * * * Asian-European Exhibition Opens in Belgium Written by E.Bayannasan Tuesday, June 29, 2010. There are Mongolian best works of art in a special exhibition named “A Passage to Asia”, which was opens in the Fine Arts Center of Brussels, Belgium on June 25, 2010. The exhibition is being held within the framework of 8th Asia-Europe Meeting, which will be hosted in Brussels. Over 400 works of art from a total of 16 Asian-European countries are being displayed in there. Ambassador of Mongolia to Belgium Battur Avirmed took part in the opening ceremony of the exhibition and there are over 20 works of art of Mongolia in the exhibition. In addition, Mongolian President Ts.Elbegdorj will visit this exhibition during his participation in the ASEM to run in October 4-5, 2010. The Exhibition is available for public viewing until October 10, 2010. Frederick Noronha +91-9822122436 +91-832-2409490
[Goanet] Barking wogs
What I have seen for the past 1 year is AM and who cares the bleep, hand in hand doing the zagai, zagai. Arwin and BC discuss real issues affecting Goa since 1961 and not who is a sudreka and a bramaneka. Tumche history kobrio ghal dobhiant. Why do you not take the tourism issue with the current regime? BC *I* am not fit to be in the company of our great Churchill bab. But here I am venturing to say something to my fellow Goans which could attract criticism a la Churchill's squealing pigs. We Goans are like barking dogs that bark at different but nevertheless wrong trees. If all the zelassos, arwins, bernardos etc. could get together and put pressure on the Goa Government to discourage the obscenity called Tourism in Goa , half of our problems would have been solved overnight. Any takers ?
[Goanet] Konkani Literary Contest
GRAF's Konkani Literary Contest-2010 Goan Review Art Foundation [GRAF] the cultural body of the popular Konkani-English bi-monthly The Goan Review is organizing its Annual Konkani Literary Contest. This Konkani writing contest is in the roman script only and in two categories as follows and is open to all:- A. Essay . Minimum 1200 words. B. Short Story. Minimum 1500 words. Subject / Topic - choice of the writer. 1.. One contestant may participate in both categories but only one entry per category is permitted. 2.. Both categories will carry 1st and 2nd prizes each respectively. 3.. Entries should be on Foolscap paper leaving adequate margin and in clear handwriting or typed only on one side of the paper. 4.. On the first page only the title of the feature should be written. Name and other details of the contestant to be written on separate sheet of paper as follows: a) Name address, b) title, c) contact no., d) date of birth, e) Signature of the contestant. 5.. The envelope containing the entry should be marked GRAF Literary Contestand along with the contestant's passport size photograph should be sent to the following address so as to reach before the 31st July 2008: The Goan Review, 14, Nafees Chambers, 121/123 Mody Street, Fort, Mumbai-400 001. Tel. (022) 22630139 6.. Decision of the judges will be final and binding on all. No further correspondence whatsoever in this regard will be entertained. Fausto V. da Costa President
[Goanet] Celebrating A Victor and A Popular Personality - Wilfred D'Sa
Celebrating A Victor and A Popular Personality Wilfred D'Sa – Nuvem Constituency – Reviews of the Event Nuvem Kuwait Parishioners By:Conceicao Teotonio Gomes http://nuvemparishionersofkuwait.blogspot.com/2010/06/celebrating-victor-and-popular.html Farwaniya, Kuwait: Apropos! there was news filtering among Nuvem Kuwait Parishioners that a very well known personality will be visiting Kuwait from our Nuvem village in Goa, India and in no time everybody found out Wilfred D'Sa (alias Babashan). Hurriedly, plans were laid out by Nuvem Kuwait Parishioners (NKP) members communicating amongst themselves and decided to facilitate “Babushan” to show their gratitude and affection. Firstly for his general development work he has carried out at Nuvem Village Panchayat level for several years and secondly for the love and spirit of friend he has had helped in achiving in his village. Contrary to the sportive spirit and the mood was defusing when Germany victory crushed England to its 4-1 defeat at World Cup 2010 in South Africa. Coming to the get-together at the Mughal Mahal Restuarant-Farwaniya to honour the Zilla Parishad member, and to acknowledge some of the able achievements under Babushan’s leadership, as follows: • Undertaking tremendous work and development as Panch Member to his Ward and also supported surrounding wards with skilful planning over a period of almost a decade and half. • Collaborating and supporting with schemes which laid down and gave resolving understanding to affect the voters of each and every ward for the better development of all. • Motivating and resolving all laid down procedures to take shape and solving the problematic solution under as Deputy Sarpanch, at the time of ruling Panchayat body. This is where he stands as of today and which helped him to win the support to be elected to the Zilla Parishad seat with great ease. In our humble endeavour, this motivated NPK and gave them tremendous joy and pride to facilitate him in their own special way. The celebratory event commenced with Isequel Gomes welcoming the guest of honor Wilfred D'Sa and presenting a bouquet of flowers by Ms. Milita Fernandes (daughter of our Treasurer Augusto Fernandes). There was yet another personality amidst from our village and he was the ‘ONE-MAN-BAND’ Norman Cardozo - a hay-hot wire musical wizard, guitarist, drummer, and specialist in Musical ORGAN who can kill the mesmerizing keys to any dancing tunes with great ease. Norman was welcomed with a short introduction and a bouquet of flowers presented by Master Malcolm Gomes (son of Isequel Gomes). The NKP-President Conceicao Teotonio Gomes called on the NPK members to salute the dignitaries with a standing honour and congratulated Wilfred De Sa. On behalf of NPK, he presented Babushan a “Memento of Appreciation” for his proud achievements and resounding election victory. Wilfred D'Sa, in his few words, was very articulate and prompt to touch the hearts graciously with his acknowledgement of appreciation for all the support Nuvem villagers and specially that of the Murda Grande voters. In the ensuing proceedings, Wilfred De Sa was quick to get acquainted with his old comrades and schoolmates, as well, at the venue, reviving old memories and nostalgic happenings. He thanked everyone and conveyed his good feelings to others NKP members who could not attend this get-together. He appreciated NKP for organizing this day with prompt decision and while accepting the Memento. Lino Gabriel Fernandes – NKP General Secretary gave vote of thanks and expressed his gratitude to all present. He also thanked Augusto Fernandes for his generous contributing of his colorful photographs. With lots of joy and tranquility of love blooming, this event concluded with happiness and a smile shining on the faces of the visiting dignitary and his well-wishers. A sumptuous dinner and delights of specialities of Muhal Mahal Restaurant awaited all and with a small prayer and God’s blessings, everyone entertained themselves amidst their young and dynamic leader, Babushan. [Presented by: Lino Gabriel Fernandes NKP-General Secretary] (As forwarded to www.goa-world.com by NKP on 28/06/2010) Photos by: Augusto Fernandes http://nuvemparishionersofkuwait.blogspot.com/2010/06/celebrating-victor-and-popular.html Posted by Goa-World.COM
Re: [Goanet] Goan Tolerance (Letter in Goan Daily OHeraldo)
Lets put ur logic to all other Indian States and Other Indian Countries. How are Indian States divided today? Why have borders/identities and lets be a jolly good cocktail? Let everyone do it and perhaps I could agree!! Message: 5 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:27:12 +0530 From: Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan Tolerance (Letter in Goan Daily OHeraldo) Message-ID: aanlktimgpghzgkdxjihwvjmw0ettq0kl-sk_v-9ip...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 29 June 2010 08:20, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: BTW: The last day to legally prevent uninhibited migration into Goa was Dec 19, 1961 Was there no large-scale migration into Goa before Dec 19, 1961? Where did all the Goans come from then? And were all our rulers before then Goan too? FN PS: I know you will turn around to say the in-migration then wasn't so proportionately large. But please do a fact-check on your history, who is labelled an insider and who an outsider.
[Goanet] Poemoods:-04-:After making an epochal discovery:
Poemoods:-04 Dr. Nandkumar Kamat ( A treasure trove of Mesolithic rock art, the oldest so far in Goa was discovered last week by the writer. He knows that if the discovery is given publicity the site would be rapidly vandalized. And if it is not published then it is as good as having never existed before. ) :After making an epochal discovery: I knew that I had walked here before, Ages ago, I knew that the essence of biosphere, Which made me, Had been at these coordinates, Earlier, So the discovery, Was a rediscovery Of myself, my own roots, I discovered the oldest rock art, At the most unlikely place, Near the concrete forest, It was a sign, From the past to the present, Here are the marks, the carvings told me, Of the first human footprints, On this island, The first nomads, The first travellers, The first visitors, The pioneers, What shall I do with this epochal discovery, In Mesolithic global rock art? Who shall care, And if I disclose, The art would vanish in a week, After some media interest, A few VIP visits, some intellectual masturbation, Pulverized to pieces, The art would be lost forever… It is just amazing, How these marks revealed themselves to me, It is still amazing when you know, That you had been here before so many times, But what is revealed now was unknown, Then you see it, suddenly, freeze there, You see the magic of the stone, Precisely that could be the original purpose, To bring the discoverer to the same coordinates, In space and time, Align the world lines, And challenge the mind…look..read…solve the puzzle I did it.. The epochal discovery Made me humble, simple, perplexed, thoughtful, What follows, who knows, To publish or not to publish, That’s the question now! I am still waiting for its’ solution…. July 29, 2010 -- Dr. Nandkumar Kamat, GOA
Re: [Goanet] Dredging/desilting of Mapusa river at the Mapusa Bridge end.
The two photographs show the Mapusa river being de-silted/dredged from the tiled park area which has been beautified by the Bastora Panchayat for the first time since the Mapusa Bridge has been rebuilt after it was totally demolished through dynamiting it by the retreating Portuguese in 1961, more precisely on 19 December (early morning), 1961. What about dredging/de-silting the portion which is out of the reach of the earth moving machinery? The cause of the heavy siltation is the unplanned and improvised 'piped bridges across the free flowing Mapusa river and elsewhere in Goa. This is what Goa Su-Raj Party has to say in it's 'Roadmap for Goa' published on 20th August 2005 (to commemorate the World Goa Day) about the culture of piped bridges over free flowing rivers in Goa under Chapter III [General Administration] (e) Bridges Fly-Overs: Quote Pipe-structured bridges such as the ones on the Guirim-Carrasco Vaddo highway by-pass shall e replaced by arch bridges, as the submerged pipes pose hindrance to the free flow of water and is the cause for siltation of the river beds. Unquote Goa Su-Raj Party is undoubtedly the forward looking Party of Goa. W.r..t. dredging small rivers like the Mapusa river end tributaries, a special floating bucket mini-dredgers will be commissioned to dredge all the rivers of Goa including the main stretch of the Mandovi river. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org It is not ENOUGH that GOOD, HONEST citizens contest elections. It is not ENOUGH that GOOD, HONEST citizen voters elect good, honest representatives. GOA urgently needs 'GOOD, HONEST, DISCIPLINED SYSTEM of GOVERNANCE'. Wherein, even a dishonest person is forced to be good, honest n disciplined, or to QUIT. Only through PPS can such 'good, honest n disciplined system of governance' be identified and accepted. PPS GOA =PEOPLE for POLITICAL SANITY = PEOPLE'S POWER SYSTEM for a date in 2012 Display the 'PPS' sticker on your vehicle today, to reject political madness tomorrow.
Re: [Goanet] U.S. players mull what might have been
-Original Message- From: Goa-World.com After it crashed out of the 2010 World Cup, what does the future hold for the U.S. national team? RESPONSE: I found Team USA's performance in this World Cup very inspirational and would recommend any teenage soccer player to watch their 4 matches in this World Cup. Their 'never say die' attitude was fantastic.right to the end. - B
Re: [Goanet] The Website of Goa Su-Raj Party [GSRP]-www.goasu-raj.org
On 29 June 2010 19:02, floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com wrote: it. As a matter of fact today's hits total around 180, crossing the 128 mark of yesterday. Good going. Controversy is good for business too! FN
[Goanet] Awarding contract for River Princess removal in final stages: AG
Awarding contract for River Princess removal in final stages: AG HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, JUNE 28 “The process for awarding contract for removal of M V River Princess which has been lying grounded off Candolim beach since June 2000, is in the final stages and a final decision would be taken after convening a meeting of the tender committee within this week,” told Advocate General (AG) Subodh Kantak to the High Court on Monday. The Division Bench comprising Justice Justice A S Oka and Justice F M Reis were hearing a Public Interest Litigation (PIL) filed by the River Princess Hatao Manch (RPHM), an association of Candolim people who want the vessel to be removed at the earliest. The AG also told the court that the bids of two companies have been short listed and meeting will be convened within this week to finalise the award of contract for removal of the vessel and sought time to convene a meeting of the tender committee and the matter was adjourned until July 7. http://oheraldo.in/news/Local%20News/Awarding-contract-for-River-Princess-removal-in-final-stages-AG/38318.html
[Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)
We are not great, we have to strive to become great By Adv.Radharao F.Gracias It was sometime at the beginning of the nineteenth century that a soldier in Napoleon's army when asked to justify the incessant wars that France launched against its neighbours gave the classic reply which immortalized him. The reply: My country, therefore right. The soldier: Nicholas Chauvin. He gave us an entire new concept: Chauvinism. We, as a people, seem to have the highest regard for Chauvin and have mastered the art of chauvinism. If chauvinism were to be declared as a sport, India would sweep all medals at the Olympics. A symptom of our chauvinism is apparent in the oft repeated slogan Mera Bharat Mahan (My India is great). The question that arises, is it really so? There has been no greatness about our country, not in the last two thousand years or so. Our history is nothing but a record of invasions, conquests, subjugations and enslavement. History shows that perhaps no other country has been the victim of invasions and conquests as much as India has been. The Huns, Scythians, Parthians, Greeks, Mongols or whosoever have simply marched into the country pillaged and ransacked. As a consequence of our cowardice and failure to defend ourselves, invaders who marched in at will, marched out with booty and tens of thousands of Indians as slaves. The poor underfed vegetarians from the plains were driven ruthlessly over the mountains of Afghanistan, where they died like flies, as history records. The mountains themselves came to be known as Hindu Kush Mountains. Hindu Kush does not mean Hindu happy; it means Hindu killer, in the local language. Geographically, the country was by far the most defensible against battle technology available in those days. The Himalayas form a huge bulwark towards the north. No invader, has crossed the Himalayas into India until the Chinese 1962. The eastern borders with Burma are rugged hills. No invader had come, from the East, until the Japanese advanced over 7,000 kms from their island home to reach Kohima during the Second World War. The South has a vast ocean around it. No invader entered from the sea till Afonso de Albuquerque conquered Goa in the sixteenth century. All previous invasions into the country were overland from the West. And there were just two routes of entry into the country; the Bolan Pass and the Khyber pass. Most of the invaders poured in through the Khyber pass which is about thirty four kilometers long and in places only three metres wide. There was no other entry point into the country. However it never occurred to our countrymen to fortify the passes and permanently block access to invaders. In this context, I am reminded of the designer advertisements being released by the Indian army inviting fellow Indians to join the army. The advertisements are couched in a language which practically seem to suggest that the Indian army is a five star hotel with all sorts of facilities for those who join it. Despite such enticing advertisements, the shortage of manpower in the army has mounted to fourteen thousand officers. If we have to join the army there is only one reason to do so; and that is because the country needs the soldiers to defend it. It is here that patriotism comes in. No other reason is required. One point two billion people and we are running short of fourteen thousand officers. Can you beat that? I have seen how when the Government of Goa announces vacancies for police sub inspectors, thousands of Goans apply and are known to have paid bribe price of up to Rs.15,00,000 to be selected. I understand that shortly another batch of sub inspectors is to be recruited. The bribe price has reportedly touched Rs.25,00,000. Mark my words, there would be thousands, seeking to pull strings and willing to pay the bribe price to be selected. None of these applicants for PSIs would go anywhere near an army selection camp where one would be gladly and freely selected. Who wants to be at risk of being killed in the battlefront when it is much easier to make a killing in the police force? That's our patriotism. I often wonder about the Sangh Parivar which today seems to hold a monopoly on patriotism. The RSS itself claims a membership of over twenty five million cadres who dressed in khaki are frequently seen marching in military formation. The Bajrang Dal, Ram Sene and the VHP have their tough-looking volunteers who have unleashed their 'patriotism' in Gujarat, Karnataka and not very long ago at Fontainhas in Panaji too. So presumably, the Sangh Parivar is full of young energetic country men willing to defendant the country's honour. That being so, why does the RSS and its sister organizations not hold camps of its patriotic sevaks and call upon the army, to
Re: [Goanet] Goan Tolerance (Letter in Goan Daily OHeraldo)
Arwin, Are you suggesting that the borders of other states are closed to Goans going and settling there? We already have what you call a jolly good cocktail... and Goans have been benefitting from this for some generations now. FN On 29 June 2010 17:33, Arwin Mesquita arwinmesqu...@gmail.com wrote: Lets put ur logic to all other Indian States and Other Indian Countries. How are Indian States divided today? Why have borders/identities and lets be a jolly good cocktail? Let everyone do it and perhaps I could agree!!
Re: [Goanet] Goan Tolerance (Letter in Goan Daily OHeraldo)
I agree with Arwin Mesquita on the subject he has written. With regards to us Goans accepting ourselves as part of the Indian Union, we already have. But has India accepted that Goans are part of what collectively defines India? What is India? Is it not a collection of states each with their unique language culture? Together this becomes India. And if Goans want to preserve a part of what defines India, then definitely they should be are well within their rights. With regards to influx of people, it's not about Goan or Indian here. Goa doesn't have sufficient residential land. It's as simple as that. To be able to settle in Goa, rules are blatantly violated resulting in hills being cut, farms being filled etc. If this is acceptable nobody minds an ecological disaster, then fine, we can welcome destruction of the environment. Another fact is more the people more the strain on the civic services. Clean drinking water, proper garbage disposal, power, law enforcement etc, need to keep with the sudden dramatic increase in population. I mean it's not just the rights of the people here. What about the rights of the environment? We accused the colonial powers of exploiting our resources. Are we doing any better? How do we explain in a country thats mostly vegetarian, Tigers are on the brink of extinction? It's nothing but the two predators (human tiger) competing for territory. One needs more land to reside thus one of them has to give we know where that's going. So once the Indian tiger, a symbol of India, disappears, can we blame the colonial powers? I think we should look at Arwin's article understand it thoroughly. Finally, when you analyze it, the focal point really comes down to effective proper planning with a vision for the future. How does the Government of Goa India see Goa 5, 10, 20 years down the line? An overpopulated polluted state with crumbling infrastructure or a state with proper management where it's citizens enjoy healthy environment are proud that their customs traditions are preserved? Planning ( especially for the future) is severely lacking in India which leaves inhabitants frustrated this frustration gets manifested in ways similar to the Marathi agitation against outsiders. Unfortunately, media people are quick to cry react with Traitor or Disloyal to India. I guess this is much easier then solving the root cause of the issue. I mean, hey, why bother providing a solution, just accuse a whole section of people (if they complain) that they don't love India they'll feel bad fall back in line. Indians are extremely emotional anyways. Really easy to keep unhappy people in line, isn't it? In history (Europe), when people were unhappy revolutions occurred. Here, not so I guess. And as I've mentioned in the beginning, it is the parts (states) that make the whole (India). You take away one India ceases to exist. How India would prosper if it ensures that all parts effectively come together in a proper synergy, without strain or preferential treatment on few individual parts. Of course, if the constitution states that conformance of only North Indian or any other particular non-Goan culture is what truly defines India, then in that case, I'm sorry to say that India shouldn't exist. I am proud of my Goan identity culture which contributes to define India India's uniqueness among nations.
[Goanet] Talking Photos: RAMPONN
Talking Photos: RAMPONN When I get time (and the mood), I will write about RAMPONN I used to remember in 70s With Kudd, Zall, sinjel, voddem, Ulantti, zomar, orbol, doram, danddo, ogoll, oddpak.Kharvi, Gaddio/Jasti, pattem, mati (Sand), pornel (Canoe), olo, Bangdde, Tal’le, kol-balle, Bulgem/Gadho (Dolphin), Shoutte, Zaram, Pellio etc etc In the mean time you way view these pics of a smaller or mini RAMPONN which made my day as I have witnessed RAMPONN after about 30 years This one may have taken about 2-3 hours But the RAMPONN I am going to talk about took 2-3 days e.g. Stage 1 (see below) alone took many hours Ok let’s check the pics Ground/Shore activities: Stage: 1 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4742695321/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4742696641/sizes/l/ Stage: 2 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4742702479/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4743338012/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4742703481/sizes/l/ Final Stage http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4743341478/sizes/l/ Extra: Related http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk16/3176770758/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4743335116/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4743336746/sizes/l/ Any ideas/thoughts of RAMPONN that you may have seen/known during your time, are most welcome thank you. Note: When they put or spread the net (Ramponn) in the sea, we did not say 'Raponn Ghatlia' but 'Raponn dovorlia' joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Goa news for June 30, 2010
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** HRD asks Goa to up school hours - Times of India onths-after-Act--RTE-rulebook-here/639703/usg=AFQjCNExQlE30nvrCJ49HtOS25Qg2P5S5wThree months after Act, RTE rulebook here http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Goa/HRD-asks-Goa-to-up-school-hours/articleshow/6104078.cmsusg=AFQjCNGyPAQkc64C5RQCe9lzglAloVhPDg *** Raid on Goa disco, 11 prostitutes freed - Sify acket-busted-disco-goa-609usg=AFQjCNHwMuRkJLBS8KLDK6kjiWCGNc5y_wSex racket busted at disco in Goa http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://sify.com/news/raid-on-goa-disco-11-prostitutes-freed-news-national-kg2sabebegb.htmlusg=AFQjCNFSgBg0U2pCTukuP8s4XKiOGtuCdg *** Goa opens up competition - Variety The Intl. Film Festival of India in Goa has opened up its competition section to films from all parts of the world. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118021142.html?categoryId=13cache=falseusg=AFQjCNGwv0y_7a_g5V3C1TLA1kJFdZJ8xg *** Crime branch interviews Pacheco's wife in Nadia Torrado's death - Daily News Analysis ily News AnalysisPTI Panjim: Sara Pacheco, estranged wife of former Goa tourism minister Fransisco 'Mickey' Pacheco, was today questioned by the crime branch of the Goa ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_crime-branch-interviews-pacheco-s-wife-in-nadia-torrado-s-death_1403019usg=AFQjCNG83oHevZ1YC6Q8b6loi8-xH9JlNg *** Navy launches two water jet-propelled fast attack craft - The Hindu ommissions-two-fast-attack-craft-050usg=AFQjCNGM1fyK8lYavcaLTQ8xVPNWtuzlhwGovernor commissions two fast attack craft http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hindu.com/2010/06/30/stories/2010063066032400.htmusg=AFQjCNHRwZzIoKP5kjq36uyc1HW-JRX13A *** NCP names Phillip as Goa president - Sify fyThe Nationalist Congress Party (NCP) has appointed Jose Phillip D'Souza as its Goa president, it was announced Tuesday. Jose Phillip is now the cabinet ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://sify.com/news/ncp-names-phillip-as-goa-president-news-national-kg3taefbahb.htmlusg=AFQjCNGLdBMawpw7l07ewuHB8y_4E_YSCg *** Goa official caught taking bribe - Sify oa-govt-officer-arrested-for-accepting-bribeusg=AFQjCNF4MOJXxnS-d50YB2YpiBEiDUn1NASenior Goa govt officer arrested for accepting bribe http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://sify.com/news/goa-official-caught-taking-bribe-news-national-kg3xucibaba.htmlusg=AFQjCNGsiPFwhbbN5E9-kIjU0JUyo1_4tQ *** BSNL Intros Unlimited Plans and New STVs In Maharashtra Goa - TelecomTalk n Plans catering to both prepaid 2G and 3G customers in Maharashtra and Goa telecom circle. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://telecomtalk.info/bsnl-intros-unlimited-plans-and-new-stvs-in-maharashtra-goa/32329/usg=AFQjCNGM8jbptDJYsG1JmSMSbPGXRyMmmQ *** Pacheco moves Supreme Court for anticipatory bail - The Hindu e HinduGoa's former Tourism Minister, Micky Pacheco, and his former Officer on Special Duty (OSD), Lyndon Monteiro, on Tuesday moved the Supreme Court seeking ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/article492189.eceusg=AFQjCNH8URXQcHmUS7WBjY6XYdG1e1podA *** Met Coke Division of Sesa Goa Ltd. wins Safety Award - digITal Goa Sesa Goa Ltd. Met Coke Division, located at Navelim, won Consolation Prize in Category C (251 and above workers) for 2009. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.digitalgoa.com/tag_article.php?id=108usg=AFQjCNHovwSwivSZy8XBNhIU4augEKLsSA Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] GOACAN to observe State Road Safety Week from 1st July.
- Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help other CONSUMERS to be better informed. - -- GOACAN to observe State Road Safety Week from 1st July -- GOACAN will observe a State Road Safety Week from 1st July to create an awareness among consumers on the importance of Road Safety and Traffic Management, the urgent need to instill traffic discipline and reduce accidents in Goa. The death of 46 persons in road accidents in the 31days of May is yet another reminder of the serious problem affecting the State of Goa. The death of 19 riders and 11 pedestrians further highlights the urgent need for consumers to get involved in solutions. The Week long program during this monsoon will promote the formation of Road Safety Traffic Management Committees at the level of the Village Panchayat Municipal Councils and the submission of local Road Safety Plans prepared by the Consumer Forums to the various agencies like Traffic Police, Directorate of Transport, PWD, RND District Magistrate. During the week Consumer Forums will promote the benefits of the Road Safety Patrol (RSP) and encourage its formation in all High Schools in Goa as well as the benefits of the Traffic Warden Scheme in co-ordination with the various Traffic Police Cells. The Consumer Forums will also promote village Gram Sabha discussions on Road Engineering, the NHAI plans for highway expansion, the importance of bus bays, zebra crossings, notified bus stops, proper parking spaces, sub ways, speed breakers and proper signages. The Forum volunteers will disseminate the accident statistics, examine the causes of the same and involve various stake holders in finding solutions to reduce the fatalities. GOACAN will also take the campaign for Road Safety Traffic Management to Educational Institutions, Mahila Mandals, Self Helps Groups and NGO's working with the disabled senior citizens. Proper knowledge of the rules of the road, safe driving practices, importance of helmets seat belts, dangers caused by the use of mobile phones alcohol intake whilst driving, proper maintenance use of vehicle lights and observance of speed limits are some of the issues that will be highlighted by Consumer Forum volunteers during this monsoon campaign. GOACAN will pursue with the Public Works Department (PWD) the need to set up a Road Engineering Cell (REC) as well as develop suitable guidelines on the construction and maintenance of safe roads for the Village Panchayats Municipal Councils. GOACAN will highlight the need for Comfortable, Affordable and Safe public transport which would include bus services provided by Kadamba Transport Corporation Ltd. and private operators so as to limit the use of personal vehicles for commuting daily to reduce traffic congestion and accidents. GOACAN will promote the use of the Traffic Police Complaint Cards among senior citizens and Complaint Boxes of Consumer Welfare Clubs (CWC) for student commuters in High Schools, HSS and Colleges to report unsafe driving practices harassment in public transport vehicles. During the campaign Forum volunteers will also interact with the Chairpersons of the Regional Transport Authority (RTA), District Magistrates as well as senior officers of the Traffic Police and Directorate of Transport with consumer feedback on Road Safety Traffic Management. -- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK -- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa -- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mail: goa...@gmail.com Visit: http://goacan.blogspot.com --
[Goanet] Bong without a bong but bong binging_There is nothing like a dame...er Bondu
After Bodhisattwa (Maity), now a Siddharth (Pinto) interviewing. Tumhi amhar Bondu hoiche. World Cup Sid meets Brazil supporter from Kolkata. http://ishare.rediff.com/video/sports/world-cup-sid-meets-brazil-supporter-from-kolkata/1738369 ++ vjp
[Goanet] Goan Tolerance
This article in Time Magazine shows how some Americans feel about immigration.There is a large Goan Community in New Jersey-and I wonder how Canadians would feel about the old and new Mississauga!Are the Goans Bhailes in the US and Canada?Food for thought!! Regards Vasant MY OWN PRIVATE INDIA http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1999416,00.html By Joel Stein I am very much in favor of immigration everywhere in the U.S. except Edison, N.J. The mostly white suburban town I left when I graduated from high school in 1989 — the town that was called Menlo Park when Thomas Alva Edison set up shop there and was later renamed in his honor — has become home to one of the biggest Indian communities in the U.S., as familiar to people in India as how to instruct stupid Americans to reboot their Internet routers. My town is totally unfamiliar to me. The Pizza Hut where my busboy friends stole pies for our drunken parties is now an Indian sweets shop with a completely inappropriate roof. The AP I shoplifted from is now an Indian grocery. The multiplex where we snuck into R-rated movies now shows only Bollywood films and serves samosas. The Italian restaurant that my friends stole cash from as waiters is now Moghul, one of the most famous Indian restaurants in the country. There is an entire generation of white children in Edison who have nowhere to learn crime. (See pictures of Thomas Edison's Menlo Park.) I never knew how a bunch of people half a world away chose a random town in New Jersey to populate. Were they from some Indian state that got made fun of by all the other Indian states and didn't want to give up that feeling? Are the malls in India that bad? Did we accidentally keep numbering our parkway exits all the way to Mumbai?
Re: [Goanet] World Cup 2010 - Portugal vs.Spain
Battle? Pardon me Sa. Its one sided written all over. The Japanese play a lot better football than the Portuguese who played like they had a roast pigling each for lunch!! I don't much care for Spain either but they certainly are a class act. My pet cockroaches can play a better game, if you don't mind me saying so. Thank Gwood, all the Portuguese flag-flying and screaming and blowing horns will stop now, and they will go back to polishing shoes or their construction jobs. Next on the way home is Brazil, I hope. They are no longer entertaining. I was hoping some of our brothers from Lusio world made it to the finals: Mozambique (just missed) and Angola. That I would cheer for. They have no pretensions, and play a honest game (no dropping every few minutes). Now for once I hope Ghana keeps their nerve and wins the thing!!! Its time some outsider came by and did the number! Cheers On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Antonio Menezes ac.mene...@gmail.com wrote: This evening Spaniards and the Portuguese will battle for supremacy on a football field at Cape Town near the Cape of Good Hope. It would appear that Spain is in a stronger position to win the battle but if the mythical giant Adamastor who ruled the stormy seas at the intersection of Atlantic and Indian oceans, deigns to smile upon his old enemies i.e. the Portuguese sailors of the 15th century then perhaps Portugal may sail through to the quarter final stage.
[Goanet] Y viva Espana!
Poor thing wasn't given the free kicks he was looking for; Well, well his reputation preceeded him and the Ref would have none of it. Got away with it at Man. U - Yes Bosco smiled and took it. Sometimes, somewhere your past catches up with you. Ole! Now enjoy the songs which I have chosen to go with the theme. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxkLd3CgF98 and Adios:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxkLd3CgF98 -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] tarvoteachim bondolam
On 29 June 2010 21:50, Camillo Fernandes camillofernan...@hotmail.com wrote: It is only in India that many people look down on low paid jobs by calling them bhungis, jaddoo walla, metrani etc. Does the low payment come about due to the names called? Are the low-status jobs the only ones which draw low payment? Or, is this a wholly separate issue, quite different from (but running parallel to) the issue of low payment for labour? FN
[Goanet] Any Goanetters out there in Edison, NJ?
I guess *we* must be seen as the *bhaile* out there, who get consistently run-down on Goanet by Mesquita, Parrikar et al: My Own Private India http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1999416,00.html
[Goanet] Medicos
Might be of interest to medicos on this list... http://www.medknow.com/ -- - Frederick Noronha +91-9822122436 +91-832-2409490 Journalism, editing, photography http://photosfromgoa.notlong.com -
[Goanet] Barking wogs
Bernado Colaco seems to have no concept regarding the economic value of Tourism. If Tourism, which is one of the principal Industries for Goa accounting for the creation of thousands of jobs, is eliminated, half the population of Goa would be without a source of income. It is like killing the Goose that lays the Golden Egg. What a stupid idea. I hope Benado has some solution for the thousands who would join the already numerous unemployed RG's in Goa. Regards..Manuel (Eddie) Tavares.
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Bernice is making the same valid point that Rajan Parrikar has been making. i.e. With the existing laws .. [1] Prosecute those who squat on property not theirs [2] Prosecute those who filthy up the place The problem with all this is those 'bleeding heart' commies will then make their tamasha I believe that as long as .. Panchayats (Oh those fine local govt entities) and the Sir Paunches are lured by the 33 pieces of silver, and as long as there are corrupt lawyers (e.g. the ones who dump their plaintiff clients and go with the other party AFTER contracting with the plaintiffs) the land of Goa will be littered with concrete. Ah Grace church property, Margao! Gabe, have you taken note? Ah the road to Dabolim! A! jc On 29 June 2010 13:11, Bernice Pereira bernicepere...@yahoo.com wrote: Agree with JC's letter that migration cannot be prevented. But, is it not possible to put CURBS on wanton, unrestricted housing projects which are mushrooming all over the state. The bhailes see Goa as a nice milch animal which is tolerant, totally indisciplined and susegad, where they can do as they want with no restrictions at all. They can buy land build multistorey ugly buildings sell the flats and make their money and who gives them the permission to do so is the question. We must understand that these bhailes have no real love or feeling for our State. Already the Candolim, Calangute, Baga belt is just an ugly stretch.. What a pretty place it was upto the 70s. The beaches are filthy (just like Juhu), littered with garbage and nobody cares anymore.
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Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)
I am always amazed why people counter hyperbolic nonsense on one fringe with something even worse from the opposite fringe. In this article it looks like chauvinism is countered by self-loathing, using a rather constricted definition of greatness and progress. If, as the silly line of argument in this article suggests, the principal measure of contribution to society is to join the army, then India has done quite well. It has arguably the third largest army in the world, after China and Russia. But I am sure most readers of the article have more sense than to believe any aspect of the cartoonish picture sketched by it. Contributions to human civilization involve much more than military prowess and scoring goals - indeed, much more than even technological advancement. There is language, art, music, dance, literature, sculpture, architecture, cuisine, philosophy and numerous other areas of human endeavor that characterize any culture and society. I would like to know whether the author of the said article has thought about them at all. His article certainly does not indicate he has. But if he has or if he does so now, I would also like to know what kind of objective method he would use to place India at the bottom of the pack in these areas as well. BTW, the literal contribution of zero by an Indian to mathematics was one of the most significant inventions of humankind. It was as transformative as the` invention of calculus. Cheers, Santosh P.S. Also, encouraging or shaming the RSS and other Hindu extremists into joining the military would be the worst calamity anybody could wish upon India. --- On Tue, 6/29/10, Goanet Reader goanetrea...@gmail.com wrote: We are not great, we have to strive to become great By Adv.Radharao F.Gracias It was sometime at the beginning of the nineteenth century that a soldier in Napoleon's army when asked to justify the incessant wars that France launched against its neighbours gave the classic reply which immortalized him. The reply: My country, therefore right. The soldier: Nicholas Chauvin. He gave us an entire new concept: Chauvinism.
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Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)
Easy to dismiss any criticism as self-loathing, smearing etc. That way, almost anything could be dismissively cast aside and written away! Where's the space then for critical thought and questioning then? As far as Radha's point on the RSS goes, I saw it differently. He was merely pointing out to their hypocrisy -- talk about patriotism but not do something like join the army and risk getting killed themselves. In other words, ahem, something like skin-deep patriotism! While I don't agree entirely with Gracias, and believe some of the comparisons (with Japan, Turkey) might not be apt, because our history has been so different, he does through up an interesting challenge to think about. FN Frederick Noronha +91-9822122436 +91-832-2409490 On 30 June 2010 02:34, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: I am always amazed why people counter hyperbolic nonsense on one fringe with something even worse from the opposite fringe. In this article it looks like chauvinism is countered by self-loathing, using a rather constricted definition of greatness and progress. If, as the silly line of argument in this article suggests, the principal measure of contribution to society is to join the army, then India has done quite well. It has arguably the third largest army in the world, after China and Russia. But I am sure most readers of the article have more sense than to believe any aspect of the cartoonish picture sketched by it. Contributions to human civilization involve much more than military prowess and scoring goals - indeed, much more than even technological advancement. There is language, art, music, dance, literature, sculpture, architecture, cuisine, philosophy and numerous other areas of human endeavor that characterize any culture and society. I would like to know whether the author of the said article has thought about them at all. His article certainly does not indicate he has. But if he has or if he does so now, I would also like to know what kind of objective method he would use to place India at the bottom of the pack in these areas as well. BTW, the literal contribution of zero by an Indian to mathematics was one of the most significant inventions of humankind. It was as transformative as the` invention of calculus.
[Goanet] Re. Goan Tolerance
FN, Surely you apprectiate that others mostly allow outsiders to a POINT that it does not dilute their exisiting culture/customs/language etc Is the same happening in Goa? Yes Migration will happen but it has to be controlled subject to the POINT I have stated above Arwin Message: 6 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 23:27:13 +0530 From: Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan Tolerance (Letter in Goan Daily OHeraldo) Message-ID: aanlktimw_9qiiy8z-grbn52aoc_wq5rzttcgrbzsn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Arwin, Are you suggesting that the borders of other states are closed to Goans going and settling there? We already have what you call a jolly good cocktail... and Goans have been benefitting from this for some generations now. FN
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[Goanet] Re. Goan Tolerance
Yes but however in the Perspective of US and Canada. (1) the Goan Bhailes are integrating into the US and Canadian Cultures/Languages. (2) They are entering via controlled migration Regards, Arwin Message: 3 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:02:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Vasant Baliga vabal...@yahoo.com To: Goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Goan Tolerance Message-ID: 224500.85419...@web111301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 This article in Time Magazine shows how some Americans feel about immigration.There is a large Goan Community in New Jersey-and I wonder how Canadians would feel about the old and new Mississauga!Are the Goans Bhailes in the US and Canada?Food for thought!! Regards Vasant
Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)
I think the below article contains quite a few sweeping generalisations, often misleading. To take just 2 sentences at the start, *Our history is nothing but a record of invasions, conquests, subjugations and enslavement. History shows that perhaps no other country has been the victim of invasions and conquests as much as India has been. *The second sentence is not true. The first sentence applies to many if not most places of the world. Today's countries have been formed out of conquests and other events of history; most regions/peoples of the world have suffered invasions, conquests, subjugation and enslavement. India in fact is known to have have not had much slavery as compared to Europe, Africa and the Americas. And the invaders and other migrants who came to India, from the Aryan-speaking peoples to the Mongols, did not all pillage and ransack and leave, many settled down and became today's Indians (see writings by Romila Thapar and others). And India did not compare so badly with the rest of the world as a place to live right up to Mughal times, European visitors have noted the conditions of the Indian peasants was not much worse -- and was sometimes better -- than those at home (Bernier, etc). Of course, this was not paradise. Caste dominated society, discrimination was rampant, and there were few opportunities for those at the bottom of the caste hierarchy to live well or freely, but, as various scholars have pointed out, the mix of religious cultures in India thanks to the rule of the Sultanate and Mughals over a majority-Hindu populace, meant that no one religion could dominate, thus avoiding the savage religious wars of Europe. It was only with arrival of the post-Renaissance Europeans that things changed, and the conditions like you describe (in those 2 sentences) can be said to have appeared. These Europeans were interested in only ransacking and pillage, and not in living here. And India did remain in their control longer than most parts of the world. (I agree though that today's India has huge problems, I think many of them are connected to our caste culture.) On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Goanet Reader goanetrea...@gmail.comwrote: We are not great, we have to strive to become great By Adv.Radharao F.Gracias It was sometime at the beginning of the nineteenth century that a soldier in Napoleon's army when asked to justify the incessant wars that France launched against its neighbours gave the classic reply which immortalized him. The reply: My country, therefore right. The soldier: Nicholas Chauvin. He gave us an entire new concept: Chauvinism. We, as a people, seem to have the highest regard for Chauvin and have mastered the art of chauvinism. If chauvinism were to be declared as a sport, India would sweep all medals at the Olympics. A symptom of our chauvinism is apparent in the oft repeated slogan Mera Bharat Mahan (My India is great). The question that arises, is it really so? There has been no greatness about our country, not in the last two thousand years or so. Our history is nothing but a record of invasions, conquests, subjugations and enslavement. History shows that perhaps no other country has been the victim of invasions and conquests as much as India has been. The Huns, Scythians, Parthians, Greeks, Mongols or whosoever have simply marched into the country pillaged and ransacked. As a consequence of our cowardice and failure to defend ourselves, invaders who marched in at will, marched out with booty and tens of thousands of Indians as slaves. The poor underfed vegetarians from the plains were driven ruthlessly over the mountains of Afghanistan, where they died like flies, as history records. The mountains themselves came to be known as Hindu Kush Mountains. Hindu Kush does not mean Hindu happy; it means Hindu killer, in the local language. Geographically, the country was by far the most defensible against battle technology available in those days. The Himalayas form a huge bulwark towards the north. No invader, has crossed the Himalayas into India until the Chinese 1962. The eastern borders with Burma are rugged hills. No invader had come, from the East, until the Japanese advanced over 7,000 kms from their island home to reach Kohima during the Second World War. The South has a vast ocean around it. No invader entered from the sea till Afonso de Albuquerque conquered Goa in the sixteenth century. All previous invasions into the country were overland from the West. And there were just two routes of entry into the country; the Bolan Pass and the Khyber pass. Most of the invaders poured in through the Khyber pass which is about thirty four kilometers long and in places only three metres wide. There was no other entry point into the country. However it never occurred to our
