[Goanet] Goan Literacy

[Arwin Mesquita]

Many Goans sing praises of their beloved MLA's/Ministers who apparently help
them with specific favours. Surely, if the system of governance was properly
working in the first place, there would be limited need for the MLA’s to
"assist" the people at the low micro level and these Politicians should  have
been instead,  involved at the much higher Macro level, of taking the state
forward in the right manner for the benefit of Goa & Goans. It appears that
Goa's Politicians are hugely favored and possibly support a highly flawed
system of governance, with high level of corruption, lethargy & incompetence
in the Government Departments; as a result of which Goans are forced to
approach the MLA’s for “assistance “and then be forever enslaved to the
respective Politician. Then as a source of “gratitude”, these people allow
corrupt Politicians to continue further with the Sale/Destruction of
Goa Environment & Identity; which is exactly what the corrupt
MLAs/Minister’s want!! Goans appear to be proud of their high
literacy/awareness, which is understood to be important for successful
democratic governance. But with such ignorance, I would argue if this High
Literacy rate has actually improved the state of affairs in Goa or is it
just an un-necessary Statistic!!



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Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/

Please also see below:
1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/
2. "Rape of Goa" : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/
3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/
4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO:
http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html
5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/
6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim
7. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686
8. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/

[Goanet] Matiechi Girestkai - a clip

[JoeGoaUk]

Matiechi Girestkai - a clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9m95hO0Lfw

With Rons, Rocky Dias, Munoel, Sonali Naik, Baptist and 
Jose Family - Joliber, Jolibia, Liberata
Seesaw aslo seen


joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

for Goa & NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc

[Goanet] World Food Day 16th October: Free demonstrations and Exhibition

[Goa Desc]

  -
Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your
family members, relatives, neighbours and friends.
Help other CONSUMERS to be better informed.
-
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World Food Day: Free demonstrations and Exhibition
--
The people of Goa are invited to come and participate in the
"World Food Day" to learn more about poison-free organic
practices to grow some of their  own vegetables at home ...
even in an apartment! There is no entry fee, no gimmicks.
All this is for the love of Nature.

The event will be held at THOMAS STEPHENS KONKNNI
KENDR (TSKK) on Saturday 16th October i.e. WORLD
FOOD DAY from 10 A.M. to 6.00 P.M. and 17th October
Sunday morning.

TSKK is located next to XCHR, (same campus) behind
O'Conqueiro opposite SAI Colony , Alto Porvorim. It is
co-organized by students of various schools assisted by
Botanical Society of Goa, GOACAN, Green Essentials,
Earthworm, OFAI, Green Goa Works, TSKK and other
agencies and individuals.

The programme is designed for those  who are interested
in knowing:How to grow winter vegetables like radish,
knol-khol, cluster beans, brinjal, chillies, tomato,cabbage,
lettuce, etc

How to make WOW [Wealth Out of Waste] of the so-called
'garbage'. How to deal with plastic waste, battery cells and
now even e-waste. How traders adulterate your food items
in the market,Students of SFX High School, Siolim; Green
Valley High School, Pilerne and Holy Cross High School,
Bastora, will display their projects on "Food Adultration"
and how to detect it.

They could also buy
Garden tools, Seeds, Growth boosters and manures,
Books on gardening and vegetable growing, or take
free samples of: Rhizobium nitrogen fixing bacteria culture
for beans, peanuts, etc Trichoderma viridae fungal culture
to control diseases that kill plants
at flowering.
Demonstrations and Presentations: The Saturday morning
session is focussed on school students and others in the
below 18 years age group. The Saturday evening session
and Sunday morning sessions are focussed on adults but
children of all ages are always welcome. The event is about
learning, not about teaching.

For details, contact Miguel 9822982676, Yogita 9960643245
or TSKK office 2415857
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GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK
--
promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa
 --
GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601
GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507
mail: *goa...@gmail.com* Visit: *http://goacan.blogspot.com
* --

[Goanet] [Goa net}My world is better than ... ............

[damodar vinayak bale]

  There is nothing like my world."Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam" was the ideology
of Bharatiya origin.We cared for Human Values.So naturally this nation has all 
the world religions and there were no rivalaries. The politicians
of the so called DEMOCRACY have spoiled our living.It is said,that the biggest 
democracies of USA and Bharat will come together,it will benefit the Humans all 
over.
  Shyam V.Bale,
   East Brunswick,New Jersy. 

Re: [Goanet] India slammed for betraying Canada and supporting Portugal for UN seat

[Mervyn Lobo]

Vasant Baliga wrote:
> India came in for sharp criticism for supporting Portugal over Canada 
> for a seat in the UN Security Council.




Vasant,
Two points:
1) Deepak Obhrai is an immigrant from Tanzania. He is one of
two Tanzanian immigrants who are now Canadian MP's.


2) PM Stephen Harper is a control freak whose policies have alienated 
Canada from the world community.

Here is an interesting read from Canada's most popular journalist.
It will give all a better understanding on why Canada lost its bid.


http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/874976--siddiqui-world-passes-judgment-on-harper-s-foreign-policy




Mervyn1370Lobo

[Goanet] Goa news for October 16, 2010

[Goanet News Service]

Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Country's Leading Tourism Expert says Goa is Addictive -
Daijiworld.com
ighting-shy-of-promoting-casinos-says-official-news-default-kkptuDghdhj.html">Goa
fighting shy of promoting casinos, says Official
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGyastwGxXc094o0m_HJNApfOwLyA&url=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=87610&n_tit=Country's+Leading+Tourism+Expert+says+Goa+is+Addictive

*** Kidnap accused attempts suicide in Goa court room - Oneindia
Uy1yL7Q
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNE6DWF7Xz88rYym2g5IGIjQlnIDjg&url=http://news.oneindia.in/2010/10/14/kidnap-accused-attempts-suicide-in-goa-court-room.html

*** Fishermen to strike on Oct 29 against draft CRZ notification
2010 - digITal Goa
xHuS1qsqe_LKMY4wBkA
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNHyRYGY2bQlBMNHaxEFmkFAOMysMA&url=http://www.digitalgoa.com/ca_disp.php?id=1591

*** Daman prostitution racket has Goa links - Times of India
mes of IndiaChandra said Nabiya has links with other escort
services involved in flesh trade in Bangalore, Pune, Goa and
other parts of the country. ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGligdqU9FvdUoieheOam3SSIBeaw&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Daman-prostitution-racket-has-Goa-links/articleshow/6750633.cms

*** Scarlett Case: Goa Court Adjourns Hearing till Oct 17 -
Outlook
tlookA Goa court today adjourned hearing in the Scarlett Eden
Keeling killing case till October 17, after the defence lawyer
sought time to study the court order ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGemSXulEVFLfBWP6haopRAE4LUAQ&url=http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?697517

*** Army personnel goes missing in Goa - digITal Goa
Shri Surendra Singh Solanki, an Army Personnel who arrived Goa
on [July 25, 2010]   is reported to be missing. Solanki, is the
Son of Shri ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFWpyicJnnEQgYZiUcaQo0qqTa5mg&url=http://www.digitalgoa.com/ca_disp.php?id=1592

*** Goa Pro League: Sporting Clube De Goa And Dempo SC Register
Weekday Victories - Goal.com India
 at the ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFVTeI-h-tD21su1WhSq1Ehvl2kiw&url=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/136/india/2010/10/16/2166975/goa-pro-league-sporting-clube-de-goa-and-dempo-sc-register

*** Dil Chahta Hai saved Goa tourism post 9/11 gloom - Sify
fyPanaji, Oct 15 (IANS) Bollywood blockbuster 'Dil Chahta Hai'
bailed out Goa tourism after the 9/11 terror attacks in New
York, a tourism official said ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFVDRYrN5PU-eCS_AVBLc2krLvaqA&url=http://sify.com/finance/dil-chahta-hai-saved-goa-tourism-post-9-11-gloom-news-default-kkpuuncbhag.html

*** Shimla Filmmaker on Goa International Film Fest Jury -
myHimachal
Himachal"It's a great honour as well as a responsibility to be
on the jury for selecting the films for the Goa film festival,"
said Mohan, who shuttles his time ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNF0Dp4hbQ5a1OyZATvrqaUkKM50uQ&url=http://himachal.us/2010/10/15/shimla-filmmaker-on-goa-international-film-festival-jury/22581/arts/ravinder/comment-page-1

*** Goa Science Centre will organize an exhibition on
nanotechnology - Times of India
JOc6-EUqxKKM">and more »
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEpOGkOwgADYRjXgSm_ndPxM6wbNw&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-Science-Centre-will-organize-an-exhibition-on-nanotechnology-/articleshow/6750629.cms


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php

Re: [Goanet] Goa: The Cruellest Inquisition

[Frederick Noronha]

Interesting! Since Priolkar, we've been lead to believe that the
Inquisition somehow targeted  the Goan Hindu. Now, writers with Jewish
names talk about Muslim and Catholic-coverts as victims.
Interesting

When will we stop playing 21st century games with the intolerance of
the 16th (and maybe 17th and 18th too)?

Some of these guys seem to be like the ideolgical heirs of the Black
Legend creators... all using it for their own purpose. Will the
Portuguese now catch up with the Spaniards? While the Inquisition was
terrible, perhaps the continued use of its legacy (for political
purposes) is worse.

QUOTE

http://infao5501.ag5.mpi-sb.mpg.de:8080/topx/archive?link=Wikipedia-Lip6-2/186824.xml&style

The anti-Spanish Black Legend (in , leyenda negra ) is the
depiction of Spain and the Spanish race as bloodthirsty and
cruel, greedy and fanatical. The term was coined by Julián
Juderías in his 1914 book La leyenda negra y la verdad
histórica ( The Black Legend and Historical Trut ).
Underlying the Black Legend and its propagation is the
intention to defame Spaniards and Hispanics generally.

The Black Legend is distinguished from other similar hoaxes
created throughout history by its extension, influence and
persistence in time. The Legend influenced historical
understanding and accounts in most European countries and,
through them, much of the world. Its zenith may have come in
the 16th century, but it effects can still be seen some 400
years later.

Other similar Roman Catholic nations, such as Portugal , have
never been subjected to such treatment to the extent that the
Spanish have been. The Inquisition was also active in
Portugal, the Portuguese Jews were also expelled, slavery was
more important in the Portuguese colonies than in the Spanish
colonies, there were violent conquerors like Afonso de
Albuquerque and brutal governors like Mem de Sá . Perhaps
the long friendship between England and Portugal explains why
these events and practices were not seen through the same
lens as similar matters in Spain.

UNQUOTE

Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490

On 16 October 2010 00:26, Eddie Fernandes  wrote:
> 14 Oct. 2010: The Rupee News.  Excerpts:
> Muslims were the major victims of the Spanish Inquisition in Goa. Richard
> Zimler of course focuses on the couple of Jews. But his work is seminal in
> the sense that it highlights the plight of the Goans...
> In Goa, the Portuguese Inquisition focuses its guns to South Asian converts
> from Hinduism or Islam who were thought to have reverted to their original
> ways...
> Zimler says, " My novel, Guardian of the Dawn, takes place in the Portuguese
> colony of Goa during the early 17th century, and it is an historical mystery
> that explores the dangers of religious fundamentalism...
> Full text, 4259 words at
> http://rupeenews.com/2010/10/14/goa-the-cruelest-inquisition/
> For Richard Zimler's website with more info about Guardian of the Dawn and a
> read of the first chapter of the book,  go to  http://www.zimler.com/
> Eddie Fernandes

Re: [Goanet] Science for sale ...

[Santosh Helekar]

Mr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão here appears not to be able to see himself well 
in his mirror. In a thread that is supposed to be about science for sale he is 
expressing his casteist prejudice against fisherwomen, stereotyping and abusing 
them in a cheap manner.

The main topic in this thread was ignored in the first place by Mr. Ferdinando, 
along with two other Goanetters with the purpose of demeaning me. Please see 
his post below:

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-October/199872.html

If his mirror and judgment were not so clouded he would have realized that it 
is he who has now introduced the topic of whose husband sleeps with whom, to 
elevate to his own level, this discussion about lack of trust in medical 
science and peer review, that was started by an author of a multi-part copied 
and paraphrased series on the European inquisition.

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Mon, 10/11/10, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão  
wrote:
> 
> From Mr. Santosh Helekar’s posts on Goanet on the subject
> ‘Science for
> sale..’, it is obvious that he does not know how to
> discuss issues. I don’t expect
> discussions to proceed in such manner, specially when one
> claims to be teaching
> post graduates and post doctorates. Basic knowledge of how
> discussions are to
> proceed is imparted as students in any field. I pity the
> students and regret the
> standard of education in any Institute where a teacher
> himself does not know to
> conduct a discussion.         
>         
> 
> In this discussion on Goanet on the subject ‘Science for
> sale’; the main
> topic or issue was of the pharmaceuticals and research
> scientists nexus, in
> which ultimately the patient bears the brunt. But Mr.
> Santosh started itself by
> ignoring the main topic and began arguments on ‘peer
> review’ and reached
> ‘European Inquisition’.            
>    
> 
> This type of arguments and discussion typically resemble
> how the
> fisherwomen fight in the fish market. They bring in the
> father, mother,
> brothers, in-laws, neighbours, everybody into their
> argument and finally reach
> the topic of whose husband sleeps with whom. In the bargain
> the main issue is
> entirely forgotten and lost.
> 
> Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
>  
>   

[Goanet] news flash from qatar

[armstrong augusto vaz]

Doha, Qatar 15 October

Calangute won the Doha Goans Sports Club inter village seven-a-side
football tournament defeating Raia at Al Ahli grounds on Friday night.
details to follow

[Goanet] idiot

[Venantius J Pinto]

MADHAV,
i WANT YOU TO COMMENT on this fucker.
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/devdutt_pattanaik.html

and out it on Goanet.

venantius

Re: [Goanet] Konkani Proverbs (3)

[Frederick Noronha]

Thanks for the reminder Eddie!  Actually, on visiting the site, I just
realised that I had done a review of it for the Deccan Herald, way
back in 1997. Your grey cells are more powerful than mine, or maybe
your Google search techniques are simply far superior :-) FN

Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490


On 15 October 2010 21:26, Eddie Fernandes  wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: Frederick Noronha
>>the book of "Grams" (forget the full title) brought out by some Goan
> network in Toronto.
>
> Response:
> Title: A Handful of Grams: Goan Proverbs
> Edited by damian lopes and Dominic Lopes
> 64 pages, ISBN 0-9698172-0-7
> Caju Press, Toronto, 1996.
>
> More at http://www.damianlopes.com/work/handful-of-grams/

[Goanet] Publish: Konkani Creative Writing Workshop - 31st Oct - 7th Nov 2010

[neshwin almeida]

*Press Note*

 *KONKANI CREATIVE WRITING WORKSHOP AT MARGAO FROM 31st - 7th Oct, 2010.*


CinnamonTeal Publishing in association with The Hungry Mind, Margao will be
organizing a 7-day Konkani Creative Writing Workshop.


The workshop, conducted by eminent writer Damodar Mauzo, will be held from
the 31st of October to the 7th of November between 4-6:30 p.m. at The Hungry
Mind, Rua de Abade Faria, Margao.


Due to availability of a limited number of seats, those interested may call
9850398530/31 before the 20th of October to register.


*Queenie R. Rodrigues Fernandes
**=
**Co-Founder/ Director
CinnamonTeal Publishing

*http://www.dogearsetc.com/
http://www.cinnamonteal.in/
http://fivex5.com/

-- 
Isaiah 33:2: O Lord, be gracious to us; we long for You. Be our strength
every morning, our salvation in time of distress.

Neshwin Noel Almeida,
Contact:- 09833459570; 0832-2738610
Journalism Student-Xavier Institute of Communications (XIC), Mumbai
http://www.flickr.com/photos/neshwin

[Goanet] Understanding Ethiopia... via Goa

[Frederick Noronha]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nile#Images_of_the_Nile

* Historia da Ethiopia, Pedro Páez (aka Pero Pais), Portugal, 1620

A Jesuit missionary who was sent from Goa to Ethiopia in 1589 and
remained in the area until his death in 1622. Credited with being the
first European to view the source of the Blue Nile which he describes
in this volume.

* Voyage historique d'Abissinie, Jerónimo Lobo (aka Girolamo
Lobo), Piero Matini, Firenze; 1693

One of the most important and earliest sources on Ethiopia and the
Nile. Jerónimo Lobo (1595-1687), a Jesuit priest, stayed in Ethiopia,
mostly in Tigre, for 9 years and travelled to Lake Tana and the Blue
Nile, reaching the province of Damot. When the Jesuits were expelled
from the country, he too had to leave and did so via Massaua and
Suakin. "He was the best expert on Ethiopian matters. After Pais, Lobo
is the second European to describe the sources of the Blue Nile and he
did so more exactly than Bruce" (transl. from Henze).
Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490

[Goanet] FRIDAY BALCAO to focus on use of RTI to combat bribery & corruption in Goa.

[Goa Desc]

 --
Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO
the fortnightly discussion event since 1999
---

Dear Cybergaonkars on Goanet,

We continue with FRIDAY BALCAO
on 22nd Oct. from 4pm. to 6pm.
at Goa Desc Resource Centre
No.11, Liberty Apartments,
Feira Alta, Mapusa.

TOPIC: Use of RTI to combat bribery & corruption in Goa.
SPEAKERS: Open Discussion.

We invite you to express your viewpoint
by attending the FRIDAY BALCAO.
If you cannot attend, then please send
your views and action plan suggestions
by email to goad...@gmail.com

best wishes,

Roland Martins
---
Don't miss out on the discussion. Information is power,
Share it equitably. Lets make things happen in Goa !!
---

GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE
11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507
mail to: goad...@gmail.com

[Goanet] Goa: The Cruellest Inquisition

[Eddie Fernandes]

14 Oct. 2010: The Rupee News.  Excerpts:

Muslims were the major victims of the Spanish Inquisition in Goa. Richard
Zimler of course focuses on the couple of Jews. But his work is seminal in
the sense that it highlights the plight of the Goans... 

In Goa, the Portuguese Inquisition focuses its guns to South Asian converts
from Hinduism or Islam who were thought to have reverted to their original
ways...  

Zimler says, " My novel, Guardian of the Dawn, takes place in the Portuguese
colony of Goa during the early 17th century, and it is an historical mystery
that explores the dangers of religious fundamentalism... 

Full text, 4259 words at
http://rupeenews.com/2010/10/14/goa-the-cruelest-inquisition/

For Richard Zimler's website with more info about Guardian of the Dawn and a
read of the first chapter of the book,  go to  http://www.zimler.com/

Eddie Fernandes

[Goanet] Konkani Proverbs (5)

[Ivo]

Konknni Mhonn'nnyo (5)

Projechi zannvay mhonn'nnyam vorvim dokholl zata. Bhas ani sonvskrutay 
ekemekakodde zoddtat-zulltat. Mhonn'nnyo mhollyar sonvskruthik hatyaram, 
tantunt mulyam ani totvam melltat. Mhonn'nyo amchem dayz. Lamb onnbhov hea 
sangnnyam vorvim thavem zata. Teo amim boroylya, khup pustokam asat, ponn 
bogor-bogor tancho ugddas kelyar faydyak poddta. Hyo mhonn'nnyo amchya 
ulovpamni, sermanvamni, tyatramni drixttipoddtat. Hanvem suru kela, to vavr 
khup zonnamni amkam korun dovorla. Somestamni hya vavrak khand diunk zay. 
Khup mhonn'nnyo amchea sadhya-sudhya lokachya tonddantlyan vhanvtat. Hanvem 
Msgr.R.S.Dalgado-chya "Florilégio" pustokantlyo mhonn'nyo kaddlyat ani to 
boroyta te bhaxen boroylyat. Ponn atam fuddarak atanchya kallar ami 
boroytat, tech bhaxen boroytolom. Khup zonnamni mhaka xabaski dilya, hya 
khatir hanv dhin'vaxi. Hanv hyo Konknni mhonn'nnyo boroytona inglejint, 
toxench yer bhasamni, mhoje kuveti pormonnem, ditolom. Hi zannvay 
apnnavum-ya.








Us godd mhonn vaddham soyt khavunchim noy: sugarcane is sweet, but one 
should not eat its leafy part. Because fruits are sweet, we do not eat its 
seeds. One should not abuse the trust that somebody places on us. 
Portuguese: Ainda que o teu sabujo é manso, não o mordas no beiço.




Bott ghalunk melltoch, hat ghalunk sodhta: allowed to place the finger, one 
places also the hand. It is also abuse of trust, goodness, benevolence. 
Port.:Não dês o dedo ao vilão, porque te tomará a mão.




Mov mellta, thoym konnoy khonnta: one keeps on digging wherever it is soft. 
Also abuse of excessive 'goodiness'. Port.: Onde é mole, todos carregam.




Dusryachem bhurgem baynt uddoun thav polleta: Somebody sounds the depth of 
the well by throwing another one's child. It means to seek one's own 
interest with harm being caused to others. Port.: Tirar a sardinha da brasa 
com a mão do gato.




Zhogzhogta itlem-y bhangar noy: All that glitters is not gold (from William 
Shakespeare's The Merchant of Venice, 1596, where it is found "glisters", it 
is changed to glitters in modern renditions of the play). Tudo o que luz não 
é ouro. Nem todo o branco é farinha. French: Tout ce qui brille n'est pas de 
l'or.



Regards.

Fr.Ivo

Re: [Goanet] Konkani Proverbs (3)

[Eddie Fernandes]

-Original Message-
From: Frederick Noronha
>the book of "Grams" (forget the full title) brought out by some Goan
network in Toronto. 

Response: 
Title: A Handful of Grams: Goan Proverbs
Edited by damian lopes and Dominic Lopes
64 pages, ISBN 0-9698172-0-7
Caju Press, Toronto, 1996.

More at http://www.damianlopes.com/work/handful-of-grams/ 

[Goanet] Goa Laments.

[eric pinto]

   The Uzbek Turkcic Mongols had placed our provinces in the hands 
of their Generals; they in turn morphed into Nawabs after seizing power grab 
that produced little kingdoms like Hyderabad and Bijapur. Goa had a long  
history of indegenous religion and culture under native Indian rulers. Bijapur 
was not invited to invade Goa : Vijaynagar did ask daGama to evict them, but 
not 
to move in for good.  Nehru had few options available when dealing with the 
likes of Nizams and Salazars :  We do not call Clinton names for ejecting 
Milosevitch from Bosnia and Kosova.
 The Portuguese people do not miss Salazar, and there is no nostalgia for 
the former colonies and subjects.  They now conduct themselves in the civilized 
manner expected of educated democratic societies.
    Our history would have been quite different if Kakodkar's Congress has 
assumed power after the first election to the Assembly. It was  mindless ego 
that created a local parochial Party then, a doomed experiment that split the 
vote and empowered a group that was honest about it's intent to dissolve the 
special status Nehru so wanted to preserve for all in Goa.   eric.
 
   From: pinheiro gift.pinhe...@gmail.com

India is paying a heavy price for Nehru's blunder of plundering Goa in 1961.   





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Re: [Goanet] Science of Manipulations

[Santosh Helekar]

The information provided in the post appended below is not accurate. Please see 
the following responsible sources for accurate information on aspartame:

http://www.acsh.org/healthissues/newsID.265/healthissue_detail.asp

http://web.archive.org/web/20080221172818/http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/ANSWERS/ANS00772.html

Also, aspartame is chemically synthesized from a racemic mixture of two amino 
acids, aspartic acid and phenylalanine, not genetically engineered as claimed 
below.

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Fri, 10/15/10, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão  
wrote:

> 
> ASPARTAME is a genetically engineered
> artificial sweetener used as sugar substitute. It is
> marketed in India as
> ‘Sugar free”, ‘Low calorie sugar’, etc.; it is also
> used in ‘diet’ products
> like ‘diet Coke’, etc. Read how though it was found to
> produce cancer, it was approved
> using political muscle power.       
>                
>             
> 
>  
> 
> http://beforeitsnews.com/story/100/245/The_history_of_aspartame_just_reported_for_Prop_65.html
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> And here are scientific studies.       
>                
>             
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.rense.com/general85/luke.htm   
>                
>                 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
> 
>     
> 
>       
>   

Re: [Goanet] My world is always better than your world...

[Frederick Noronha]

Hi Selma,

Devadutt Pattanaik
[http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/devdutt_pattanaik.html] struck me
as making some very important points.

His view didn't strike me as arguing that "India is better", but just
different. Not just India, but a whole lot of societies which have a
non-linear approach towards time.

When viewed against the West-is-best, science-is-god, we-know-it-all
approaches, the points being made struck me as something interesting.
We could quibble about the examples he used to make his point, but
what he said did ring a bell while I viewed it. FN

Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490

On 15 October 2010 12:48, Carvalho  wrote:
> Dear FN,
> Rarely have I come across a talk as full of nothingness as this one. First of
> all, he implicitly assumes the Indian way is superior but more damning that
> that, he assumes that old stereotype, East is East and West is West and ne'vr
> the twain shall meet. In my experience, I have never come across human beings
> that are fundamentally different. We are cosmetically different but never
> fundamentally, never in aspirations and hopes. And this is what unifies us.
> The world is changing because it is challenging every bit of nonsence that has
> been placed before us by way of religion. The choice before is not whether we
> shed our Indianess, the question before us is whether we shed processes that
> don't work. They haven't worked for centuries and they will not work in the
> world that we have to live in, which calls for the most efficient use of
> resource and concepts. And in the end, there always is a one best way of doing
> things. When we discover it, we call that progress. We may do this in terms of
> technological advancement or ideological advancement, but the evolution of 
> human
> society necessarily calls for the culling of ways that don't work and 
> embracing
> ways that do.
> This "our standards are different from their standards" is in my opinion, a 
> lot
> of brown stuff being shovelled around.

[Goanet] Science of Manipulations

[Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão]

 

ASPARTAME is a genetically engineered
artificial sweetener used as sugar substitute. It is marketed in India as
‘Sugar free”, ‘Low calorie sugar’, etc.; it is also used in ‘diet’ products
like ‘diet Coke’, etc. Read how though it was found to produce cancer, it was 
approved
using political muscle power.

 

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/100/245/The_history_of_aspartame_just_reported_for_Prop_65.html

 

 

And here are scientific studies.

 

http://www.rense.com/general85/luke.htm

 





Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.

  

Re: [Goanet] My world is always better than your world...

[Nascy Caldeira]

Selma,
I agree with U fully. I do not understand why Frederick brings such crap to the 
attention of Goanet, in the first place. 

May I add: 'The Guy' has spoken nothing but crap and unholy crap that can only 
come from persons who are misguided by myths that are  a figment of imagination 
of a 'ganja' loaded mind and the hallucination effect!

In my way of enlightened modern way of thought, there is no East nor West as 
'boundaries';There is only Old and Modern. Those who choose to remain old and 
irrelevant are Eastern and those who progress in many ways are truly Western! 
Like South Korea, Japan and Singapore are 'Western' and many in the western 
Hemisphere and in South Asia are Eastern and will always be that way until they 
change their total mindset. 

Perhaps that way, the twain shall never meet, for those in South Asia like 
'this Guy' and the people and leaders from the RSS-BJP combine and also a la 
Saffron, will always feel that East is East, and West is West, and the twain 
shall never meet!

These people have sadly missed the BUS; as the East and West have MET already 
and continuing; by shedding their old beliefs and customs and becoming modern 
with a touch of the culture one is born into!
That is the way of the future not the Godhra or the Babri way!

Nascimento Caldeira.


--- On Fri, 15/10/10, Carvalho  wrote:
> Dear FN,
> Rarely have I come across a talk as full of nothingness as
> this one. First of 
> all, he implicitly assumes the Indian way is superior but
> more damning that 
> that, he assumes that old stereotype, East is East and West
> is West and ne'vr 
> the twain shall meet. In my experience, I have never come
> across human beings 
> that are fundamentally different. We are cosmetically
> different but never 
> fundamentally, never in aspirations and hopes. And this is
> what unifies us. 
> 
 The choice before
> is not whether we 
> shed our Indianess, the question before us is whether we
> shed processes that 
> don't work. They haven't worked for centuries and they will
> not work in the 
> world that we have to live in, which calls for the most
> efficient use of 
> resource and concepts. And in the end, there always is a
> one best way of doing 
> things. When we discover it, we call that progress. We may
> do this in terms of 
> technological advancement or ideological advancement, but
> the evolution of human 
> society necessarily calls for the culling of ways that
> don't work and embracing 
> ways that do.
> 
> This "our standards are different from their standards" is
> in my opinion, a lot 
> of brown stuff being shovelled around.
> 
> Best,
> selma
 

[Goanet] CWG:Tendulkar upsets Aussies at Games Village

[Vasant Baliga]

http://cwg.ndtv.com/commonwealth/article/id/spoen20100156691/type/latest/cmt/n/CWG-Did-some-Australians-get-rowdy-.html


Reports suggest that Australians were upset with Tendulkar and India's cricket 
victory and vandalised property and indulged in hooliganism.


  

[Goanet] Azad Kashmir !!!

[eric pinto]

Far from Azad,  only three percent voted in favour of the Pakistani occupation, 
in a recent poll.  All six hundred thousand in Swat, the largest province, were 
placed in a concentration camp after last year's insurrection.  The not so 
shabby tents were shipped from the US.  eric.





From: Venantius J Pinto http://www.tehelka.com/story_main47.asp?filename=Op161010Pakistan_armed.asp

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vjp

[Goanet] GBA meeting at Azad Maidan (A report with clip & pics)

[JoeGoaUk]

GBA meeting at Azad Maidan (A report with clip & pics)
 
clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zn19byDKfM

Where is everybody?
For god sake it was not something  meant for a particular religion
Nor it was meant for a particular community or tribe or caste
It was for Goa or Goans as a whole.
 
Why should we go?
It’s not our Job, we don’t understand it any way.
 
What’s in there for us?
Meaning – Cash incentives, Free transport, snacks/drinks etc
 
(Some southern Political rallies etc, leaders offer Rs.15,000  to whoever
organises a bus full of people (say 25-30). Out of which he will
 have to pay Rs.100 per head and the bus charges say 
Rs.2000-3000). Snacks and water bottles borned by the politicians.
(Looks like we even accept cash to stay out)
 
Who else will be there?
Meaning Celebrities like Hema Sardesai, Remo Fernandes, 
Oscar Rebello, Prince Jacob, Nana Patekar etc
 
(if nothing for us then..)
 
Ami paunaim
(We are not free)
 
Some may say 'Will let you know'
Meaning - after consulting their political leaders to whom they support
 
When the horse is thirsty, one can only take the horse to the pond 
and not  the pond to the horse
 
Ami nidentle kedna utt’ttole gai?
(When will we wake up?)
 
At first,  on seeing the situation at around 4.30pm,
we even thought the meeting  might have been cancelled 
as the CM is out of Goa etc
 
The police force  outnumbered  those who actually present.
Police were on all side of the Azad Maidan.
Infact, two of the 4 gates were seen closed, guarded by police
There were 5 police buses, one of Lady Police only.
 
Where is everybody?
If you take away  50 odd media/press persons, 
the remainder would be less than 150 that’s around 5.30pm
 
Imagine, what would be the resultant figure if we  also 
take away Moira, Tivim, Nuvem, Ambelim etc delegation /group
 
Amongst others, we also saw Fr. Erimito Rebelo,  
Prajal Sakhardande, Florian Lobo etc
 
In this clip you will also see 2-3 speakers in the later half
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zn19byDKfM

For pics sent earlier, you may  refer this link
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-October/200257.html




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Re: [Goanet] GBA Meeting/Rally at Azad Maidan 14.10.10

[soter]

JoeGoaUK has definitely constructed a moment by moment picture about an event 
organised with almost 2 months preparation by an organisation (no more a goan 
people's movement) in existence for 4 years which boasts of having brought a 
government to its knees, but sadly only till June 2007 when Digu bab took over 
the reigns. Thereafter, it is a paper tiger show with Digu bab's blinded Jack 
and his puppet Queens and Kings in absolute control. Masses are reduced to 
Jokers in the pack.
We can take some of the people for a ride for some of the time. We can take 
some of the people for a ride for all of the time. But we cannot take all the 
people for a ride all the time.

Pisso Goykar,
Soter

[Goanet] India slammed for betraying Canada and supporting Portugal for UN seat

[Vasant Baliga]

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/104982/india-slammed-betraying-canada-un.html


India came in for sharp criticism for supporting Portugal over Canada for a 
seat 
in the UN Security Council.


  

Re: [Goanet] Konkani Proverbs (3)

[Frederick Noronha]

That's true. I too appreciated very much Fr Ivo's postings of Konkani
sayings, but feel that adding English translations would add value.

Here are some with English translations, from work done/collated by
Valmiki Faleiro:

Addveak tiddvem, addveak kaddvem
A crook encountered a crook-and-half

Adhar nasleli nari, bhonvta dara dari
A helpless woman goes from door to door

Adinch bail asli nachri, atam tichea paiank bandhleo ghagri
The woman was already a dancing nautch, now they have given her
anklets (tingling bells were tied at the ankles of professional
dancing girls)

Adinch xit xellem, tantunt bhorlem varem
The rice was already cold, now it's filled with air

Aforkim rai randdiecho, uzrim dhoni amcho
Behind his back the king is a son of a bitch, in his presence he is
our mighty king

Ag khaun, ingle agta (old: Agni khanu, inghalle hagota)
He who eats fire, shits coals

Looking forward to more contributions on this front... specially with
English translations. I recall the old-time Goanet posts which used to
be labelled as "Old Konkani Saying" (was that from Eddie Fernandes?)
and also the book of "Grams" (forget the full title) brought out by
some Goan network in Toronto. FN

Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490


On 15 October 2010 12:03, DAN DRISCOLL  wrote:
> Will there be a chance to see English translations of these? Two English
> versions of Tamil proverbs: "He who has killed a hundred men, is fit to be a
> Doctor"; "The tall palm tree gives no shade".

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Re: [Goanet] Goa's RP Show - Dak Dak Go!

[soter]

Mr. Pinheiro wrote:
It's time for organizers (GBA) to do introspection to know why there is 
such

they get cold feet response to their rally.

Are Goans ready to set aside they weekday

(daily bread) to attend these meetings which are usually on working days?


Reply: It is a mortal sin to even think of GBA or for that matter any 
eminent activist or organisation in Goa doing an instrospection.The problem 
with many NGOs and many activists is that they begin to play God, detest 
transparency and a code of conduct for themselves or associates, nor do they 
appreciate introspection and evaluation. That is Goa's problem and the main 
reason for public non-cooperation.

You may only get a rebuke like
"Better late than never!" or "You do it better if you can" as a 
rationalisation. It is no better than how our politicians behave, if you are 
not with me then you are against them.
As some speakers speak, the actual reactions from the public can be more 
understood on the surrounding footpaths. It is more like the saying in the 
new testament, "Pull out the log from your own eye before you remove the 
spec from anothers eye."
People have responded to calls in the past but only to be exploited again 
and agian by vested interests. People hire their own buses and come to 
Panjim all the way from distant places while 20,000 got claimed by some 
activiast as cost of transportation.
Issues may be very very genuine, I repeat very genuine,  but motives of some 
of those appearing in public to tackle them are questionable.


-Soter 

[Goanet] Is diet the key to living to 114? | MNN - Mother Nature Network

[Con Menezes]

Is Diet the Key to LIving to 114??
Very interesting video from MNN--Mother Narture Network.
http://www.mnn.com/food/healthy-eating-recipes/blogs/is-diet-the-key-to-living-to-114

Re: [Goanet] Song of the day dedicated to...

[Gabe Menezes]

On 15 October 2010 04:43, Bernado Colaco  wrote:

> Song of the day is dedicated to Gabriel Menezes. Tiro Liro is a common
> song,
> sung during feasts and dances in Goa. This version is by Sete Saias (Seven
> Skirts).
>
>
> BC
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnYel9nQKoU
>

Dear Bernardp,

That made my day, thank you very much.


-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] Centenary of the Portuguese Republic - Screening of "AFIRMA PEREIRA"

[CLP Instituto Camões]

Dear All,

CLP/Instituto Camões is following up the commemorations of the
Centenary of the Portuguese Republic by screening “Sostienne Pereira”,
a Luso-Italian production, directed by Roberto Faenza (1995) based on
Antonio Tabucchi’s novel, on 17th October 2010 (Sunday), at 4.00 pm,
at the Instituto Camões premises.

Synopsis: This drama, set in 1938, chronicles a month in the life of
the Portuguese journalist Pereira. He is first seen as a lonely,
widowed, and overweight editor of the culture page of a second-rate
Lisbon newspaper. Earlier in his career, he had been a news reporter.
Pereira is fascinated with old literature; he is also obsessed with
death. He hires himself an assistant, Monteiro Rossi, to prepare
obituaries for old writers before they die. The young man and his
girlfriend are both passionate fighters against the dictatorship in
Portugal. They, along with a German Jewish woman, help to draw Pereira
out of his dusty old books and spark his interest in the current
political turmoil of Europe.

«Sostienne Pereira» (1995), directed by Roberto Faenza, Italian
language (with Portuguese subtiltles), color, 95 mins, starring:
Marcello Mastroianni, Joaquim de Almeida, Daniel Auteuil, Teresa
Madruga, Nicolau Breyner, Mário Viegas.

Hope to see you all.


-- 
Delfim correia da Silva
CLPInstituto Camões
Agva House, 9/32 Dr.Dada Vaidya Road
Panjim 403001 - Goa

[Goanet] Rohinton Mistry's such a short journey in Mumbai academics - attacked by Aditya Thackeray

[roger dsouza]

Rohinton Mistry's such a short journey in Mumbai academics - by Mahesh
Vijapurkar

October 13, 2010 15:21 IST



*Why did the city's decision-makers take a book off the Mumbai University's
curriculum without bothering to read it? Mahesh Vijapurkar wants answers and
remedies*



Rohinton Mistry's *Such a Long Journey *was taken off the curriculum of the
University of Mumbai in haste at the behest of a student and his father's
political party's student wing. The issue brings up three questions for
which society has to find answers and -- remedies.

One, should we allow a person, Aditya Thackeray in this case, who has, by
his own confession, not read the book, to sit on judgment on it and seek its
removal from the curriculum of a university?

Two, should decision-makers like Rajesh Tope, Maharashtra's minister for
higher education who says the book ought not to have been a part of the
syllabus in the first place without reading the book, be allowed to steer
the course of higher education? Adtiya Thackeray and Tope have been quoted
in a section of the media admitting they have not read it.

Three, is it appropriate to have a vice-chancellor who was picked to head
the university after an excruciating -- and now, apparently without a happy
outcome -- selection process so that the institution's academic excellence
is promoted but, now, just succumbs to a demand, promptly slices off the
book from the courses using his emergency powers, which is not known to have
been used before?

*Thought Aditya Thackeray would have an open mind*

A bit about Aditya Thackeray who, I thought, as a young man, exposed to good
learning in an institution like Mumbai's St Xavier's College, despite his
upbringing in a family known to believe that they have the given rights to
be moral arbiters, would have an open, inquisitive mind. I thought he would
discuss the book before he petitions the VC with a mob in tow. The least he
should have done is to discuss it with the fine faculty at St Xavier's.

On Dassera, the Yuva Sena, a youth wing distinct from the Vidyarthi Sena, is
likely to be launched by the grandfather, Bal Thackeray in the presence of
Aditya's father, Uddhav Thackeray. Which means a mindset of intolerance, the
propensity to take quick decisions without rationalising it or understanding
its implications, the ability to shoot from the hip -- all move like DNA to
the third generation in the family and politics. My speculation is that
Aditya will head the Yuva Sena.

Now that the university has made such a short journey of the book on his
demand and having tasted first blood with such ease, will the young
Thackeray who shows all signs of being callow, not take to the streets and
demand that the book not be stocked, sold and read in the state? And that
just because some content in the book was not palatable to someone.

I would like that Chief Minister Ashok Chavan ensures that the book is
freely available. Since this issue of freedom to write, express and read is
fundamental to life, I would not mind if the CM even encroaches on the
autonomy of the university -- which we know is only a sham -- and ask Dr
Rajan Welukar to retrace his steps and restore the book to its earlier
status on the curriculum till the Board of Studies takes a call on academic
grounds. A constant review of the curriculum actually is the right thing to
do.

*Talibanisation of Maharashtra *

Maharashtra has been known to be progressive as a society and vigorous
discussion and debate are its hallmarks, but unfortunately it has been
sliding, given the number of books that are easily banned -- almost as
easily as changing underwear.

B R Ambedkar's *Riddles in Hinduism *for instance. James Laine's *Shivaji,
the Hindu King in a Mogul India *for instance. The movie *Fire *for
instance.  All these are instances of decisions under duress, not cold,
calculated choices made after due deliberation.

The outcry about the Aditya Thackeray misadventure and Rajan Welukar's
compliance to the demand had been muted, first heard of in one single
newspaper after which it did not pick up steam in other sections of the
media. Which, to say the least, is quite mystifying.

Only now does one see some well-argued protests, the first to go on record
being Dr Aroon Tikekar, the feisty protector of intellectual freedoms, then
Fr Mascarenhas, principal of St Xavier's which Aditya attends. Then there
has been a protest and petition online, which I have signed after writing
about it on my own blog. But the fact remains that the outcry has not been
loud enough and this emboldens the Thackerays and the Welukars of this
world.

The sad thing is that though the Supreme Court has upheld the right to keep
James Laine's book in the hands of the readers, the Maharashtra government
has ensured that it doesn't happen. It possibly does not want a headache or
hurt the so-called 

[Goanet] Cyril Almedia, Columnist The Dawn_P akistan’s armed support to Kashmiris is the wor st-kept secret in the world

[Venantius J Pinto]

Opinion: Cyril Almedia, Columnist The Dawn_Pakistan’s armed support to
Kashmiris is the worst-kept secret in the world
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main47.asp?filename=Op161010Pakistan_armed.asp

++
vjp

[Goanet] Democracy attains a new low in India

[Nisser Dias]

Democracy attains a new low in India
By Nisser Dias
nisserdias at gmail.com
SMS to 9422437029


The recent development over toppling games of BJP led Karnataka 
government has its fall-out on democracy and sadly our democratically 
elected politicians irrespective of political party they belong, 
demonstrated that they will stoop to any level or even act 
undemocratically to either grab power or cling on to it.


But in this case the Congress led government in Goa bled democracy 
further by refusing leaders of BJP unit in Goa to meet their own 
partymen at a luxurious hotel in south Goa. 16 MLAs had rebelled against 
Karnataka chief minister B S Yeddyurappa and withdrawn their support to 
his government. The rebel traveled from Karnataka to Chennai to Bombay 
and finally arrived in Goa and set their tent in Goa.


It was but natural for the BJP party bigwigs to urge its partymen in Goa 
to convince or even induce the rebels not to topple its government. But 
the government had no business to thrown a security cordon of police 
around the villa of the resort where the MLAs were housed. If the rebels 
did not want to meet their partymen or the party emissaries for a 
dialogue they could leave instruction with the hotel staff that they 
needed absolute privacy, if the rebels felt that they still would not be 
safe they could have requested for additional security near their villa.


Now lets us consider that the Karnataka rebel MLAs including the 
independents requested the Goa government for police protection, the 
government could well do by posting some policemen or police officers in 
the lobby of the hotel to deter troublemakers. But dispatching most of 
the top brass of police officers from south Goa along with a huge 
contingent of police with direction to throw a cordon around the villa 
making it a virtual fortress was unacceptable. This very fact made the 
Congress led government in the state an abettor to defections and the 
presence of Home minister Ravi Naik, PWD minister Churchill Alemao and 
Power minister Alexio Sequeira at the resort in company of the rebels 
endorsed the BJP’s claim that the Congress party was involved in the 
toppling games in another state.


The politicians might say that this is politics but we should not forget 
that we live in a democratic country and just as the disgruntled rebel 
MLAs have a right to dislodge its government and the opposition parties 
have the right to support such a move, party leaders of rebels have 
equal right to convince them not to topple the government. But what the 
Congress led government in Goa tried to do is drill another nail in the 
coffin of democracy by trying to deny BJP leaders in Goa to meets its 
rebel party, this is not acceptable. This is an indication that Congress 
party crucified democracy.


Actually we should not raise eyebrows at the presence of Home Minister 
of Goa Ravi Naik being present at the hotel with the BJP rebels as he 
too thrives or rather gets kicks out of toppling games. I say this 
because he has distinction of being the shortest serving chief minister 
of Goa. After a successful coup against then chief minister Dr. Wilfred 
D’souza he attained chief ministership only to be ordered by the High 
Court to step down in just four days. Here the High Court had endorsed 
its mark that Ravi and gang had illegally, unconstitutionally and 
undemocratically toppled Dr. Willy’s government


Now let us see how BJP butchered democracy to stay in power in 
Karnataka. After their efforts failed to convince the rebels to withdraw 
the letter of withdrawal of support to the Yeddyurappa government a 
petition for disqualification of all the rebel MLAs was filed before the 
Karnataka speaker who promptly within hours decided the matter and 
passed an order disqualifying all the rebel MLAs. Here is an indication 
that the speaker either acted in a biased manner or was forced by the 
top party bigwigs as it was unfair to disqualify the independent MLAs. 
Even in the case of BJP MLAs they have rebelled and not defected to any 
party so where is the question of defection. Secondly it is very rare 
that petitions before the speaker are decided in such a hurry. In some 
case disqualification petitions are never decided at all and when the 
five year term of elected representative ends the petitions become 
infructuous.


The Karnataka government seems to have taken a leaf from Manohar 
Parrikar’s book. In 2005 when his government had lost majority, a 
disqualification petition was filed against then independent MLA 
Filipeneri Rodrigues as he was the part of the group that withdrew 
support to the BJP led government. On the day the motion of confidence 
was to be placed in the house, the speaker disqualified Filipeneri 
Rodrigues and asked him to leave the house. When he refused policemen 
were called to bodily lift out of the house. As commotion prevailed the 
motion was put to vote and decided in Parrikar’s favour. It was in 2002,

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The Goans of Arusha Trust (G.O.A.), are proud to have their website. Thanks to
Sebastiao Fernandes (a.k.a. Seby) and Alain Randria for creating this website.

MESSAGE FROM THE CHAIRMAN:
Welcome to our website and thank you for spending time to know about us.
Geographically, we, the Goans of Arusha (G.O.A.) are located in the
northern region of Tanzania.

We are joined by the Goans of Moshi to be in our ambit.
Arusha is the mid-point between Cape Town and Cairo while Moshi lies on
the foothills of Mt. Kilimanjaro, the highest mountain of Africa.

The G.O.A. is a registered Trust. In addition to social gatherings, we
look into welfare issues to the extent we can manage, and we integrate
with other communities.

Since its formation in 1990, the G.O.A. has steadily grown and has now
received recognition from Goan communities within East Africa.

We are happy to share our experiences with the rest of the world and
we hope this will propagate to the generations to come our traditions.

In ending my note, I wish to thank the past and present managing
committees and the community members for their tireless efforts to
keep our trust serving at all times.

Ray Travas
Chairman
Goans of Arusha Trust
Managing Commitee
E-mail: raytra...@bol.co.tz

http://www.goarusha.com/

Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490

[Goanet] My world is always better than your world...

[Venantius J Pinto]

Blissful condescension! Mind numbing--the cocky way Pattanaik explained
terms. Practically laid the patta/dandpatta on his speakers heads. Elysium
= *Champs*-*Élysées? This guy attempted to connect every tradition to
express his Self! You see, you see, again and again and again. Comparison
between a ballerina and an a Kuchipudi dancer?! Taste?! You see?! The music
part was utter trash. *

venantius j pinto


> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:41:35 +0530
> From: Frederick Noronha 
> Subject: [Goanet] My world is always better than your world...
>
> My world is always better than your world... Thought provoking!
> Devdutt Pattanaik: East vs. West -- the myths that mystify
> http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/devdutt_pattanaik.html
>
>

[Goanet] Song of the day dedicated to...

[Bernado Colaco]

Song of the day is dedicated to Gabriel Menezes. Tiro Liro is a common song, 
sung during feasts and dances in Goa. This version is by Sete Saias (Seven 
Skirts). 

 
BC
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnYel9nQKoU

[Goanet] Tiatr ‘Earth’s wealth’

[JoeGoaUk]

Tiatr ‘Earth’s wealth’
 
(wealth from sand)
 
Once again, it is all about selling our land to outsiders etc
 
In a household, there live three brothers.
One brother Donald (Babtist Crasto) and his wife Sera 
(Jolibia Fernandes), Second brother Roger, a mentally 
retarded (Playwright Jose Fernandes) and the third 
one Godfrey who is abroad (Anthony Pereira) shown 
only during the second half.
 
In another house, there is a Konkani/Hindi speaking 
lady Sarpanch (Liberata Fernandes) and her daughter 
Tasha (Valency D’Souza) and cook Agustin (Allwyn).

Plus a Salman dada or goonda (Michael D’ Costa or 
Michael de Chandor)
And outsider Hindi speaking builder  Nazir 
(Ronny Tavares or Rons)
 
Yet, there is another sort of NGO, but this one entirely of 
kids Thomas (Joliber Fernandes), Nikita (Sonali Naik) & 
Dolly (Muriel Estebeiro or baby Muriel)
 
Comedy part: Pasku the 3 brothers' cook (Sucorro Colaco),  
Police Havaldar (Armando Mendes) and
 Agustine who spell his name on a pedr/slate 
as ‘Agust3’ (Allwyn Rodrigues)
 
In the end, the Tiatr says when we die we leave 
behind everything and go into 6ft long-2ft wide & 3ft deep grave
 covered by the  earth (Sand)
and we belong to earth and hence earth’s wealth
 
MATIECHI GIRESTKAI a tiatr written and directed 
by Jose Fernandes (Associacao Academica de Majorda-
Utorda-Calata, Majorda Goa) staged on 14th Oct. 2010.  
This was the 13th of the 21 shows in the ongoing  36th  
All Goa Tiatr Competition organised by Kala Academy.
 
Like yesterday, today’s tiatr too was like a family oriented.
If we had father-mother and two sons, today we have 
father-mother Son/Daughter.

The playwright Jose Fernandes, his wife Liberata, 
Daughter Jolibia and NGO kid Joliber.
 
Again, this was of no fuss no frill Tiatr , yet done well
Rons role as an Arab (except no cassock on) was good.
So, also Michael de Chandor.
Lady Sarpanch did pretty well too.
However, JoeGoaUk’s top prize for best acting  jointly goes 
to Anthony Pereira and Jolibia Fernandes.
 
Coming to songs
There were 1+12 songs
Opening by Playwright’s son Joliber
Other singer were
Rons (2),  Melind Fernandes (2), Liberata Fernades (2), 
Valency  D’Souza (3), Michael D’ Costa, J
olibia Fernandes, Sonali Naik (2), Rocky Dias (2), 
Baptist Carasto, Muriel Estibeiro (2)
 
All songs were good but  child artistes Sonali Naik and 
Muriel Estibeiro share the top prize for (solo) singing category.

Extra:
At the start, there was a considerable delay, something 
went  wrong. Looks like, it then had be done manually – 
The scrolling list of artistes (oncreen display)
which was so tiny was not enough bright to be able to see 
or read.
 
Although the actors/singers did pretty well, it did appear 
that some dialogues/Actions given to them were not fitting 
to their ages.
e.g. The Kid crusaders seen in argument with the builder, goonda, 
the sarpanch etc at the same time they were 
shown as kids playing on a sea-saw (see pic).  Also, at 
one stage, a lady went inside to bring some drinks to the 
kids but handed over tiny bars of chocolates instead 
(one each). I guess this type of tiny tots crusaders  is OK 
on TV episodes.

Secondly, Mentally challenged (Retarded) man having a 
mind of a  4-5 year old, sent to prison for he had injured 
not another kid but the Salman dada/Goonda.
which judge will send such persons to prison?
 
One of the crusader-kids (Baby Muriel), who was a 
tenant's daughter in a property, the builder  invite her 
to Sapancha’s house.  He offers her a one apt.
Plus Rs.1 lac as compensation (for giving up their 
tenancy  claim) but the kid ask for more i.e. 2 Apts + 
10 Lacs and the sarpanch the builder agreed, the 
deal sealed.
(perhaps, some of our NGO members too dealing in 
like  this?).
Why the kids parents (if any) were called in for 
such settlements?
 
Sarpanchas cook always poking his nose 
(against srapanch) whenever  there is a conversation 
between the sarpanch and the visitors in the house.  
Sarpanch warns him of reporting him to the police which 
she did, and the cook even got beating from PC 
(road Scene) for disobeying sarpanch.
Why report to police? Could not she sack him instead?
 
Kids too seen overacting at some stages. e.g. sobbing  
when another kid sobs etc
 
The title suitability also did not make much sense.
 
We don’t remember watching a quartet song.
We understand that besides, Solos and duets/duos, 
there must be at least one Trio and one Quartet as per 
the competition rules.
I think there are at least two more who missed on this 
and one on both.
 
OK, let see the stage pics
 
The kids playing in the garden - Seesaw
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr6/5082675441/
 
Two brothers, wife and Sarpanch
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr6/5081364947/
 
Sarpanch. Kid and the builder – Sealing the secret deal ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr6/5081364541/
 
Two brother and wife
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr6/5082676227/
 
One brother (Mentally challenged)

[Goanet] Song for the day!

[Gabe Menezes]

Elvis sings a song from Blue Hawaii - Ku u ipo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75T6kkXDqOA

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] Konkani Proverbs (3)

[Fausto Da Costa]

Fr. Ivo baban dil'leo mhonn'nnyo nitt ritin ghalpacho yotn kela, xikovpacho 
yotn kela oxem mat chintchem nhoi.


Fausto

Hanv chor zalear bailecho bhavui chor

Hanv boro zalear ganv boro, hanv chor zalear ganv chor.

Nhidlo ani melo monis sarko.

Hata voilem tantim ani udharachi kombi.

Rup anjeachem kornneo devcharacheo.

Yetolo devchar, kollttolo sonvsar.

Farank devchar legun bhiyeta.

Duddu asa thoim devchar asa.

Munnko devchar tujer bosla (hem somzonk na)

Kazulo uzo dista mhonnllear kamak yeta?

Zogzogta titlem-i bhangar nhoi.

Erondd vaddlear patti zata?

Dali vhoddi, sagvad thoddi.

Vhodd ghor, pokoll vanso.

Bhorpyache (?) lag zhuzak upkaronant.

Kupache fator godd zalear kole sanddttole?

Bhonkta tem sunnem chabona, ani zhankta to monis vaitt korunk pavona.

Inglixman bolsant xenn. (hi mhonn'nni Mons. Dalgado-chea pustokar aspavta?

Uddtta to buddta.

Fausto

Ivo wrote:
Konkani Proverbs (3)
Apunn tsor zalyar, bayletso bhavuy tsor

Hanv boro zalyar, ganv boro; hanv tsor zalyar, ganv tsor

Nidlo ani melo munis sarko

Hata voylem tantim ani udharachi kombi

Rup anjyachem, kornnyo devtsarachyo

Yetolo devchtsar, kollotlo sounsar

Pharank devtsar legun bhiyeta

Dudd asa thoym devtsar asa

Munnko devtsar tujer bosla

Kazulo uzo dista mhullyar kamak yeta?

Zhogzhogta iylrym bhsngst noy

Erondd vaddhlyar patthi zata?

Dali vhoddi, saguvat thoddi

Vhodd ghor, pokol vanso

Bhorpyache lag zuzak upkaro nant

Kupache fator godd zalyar, kole sanddtole?

Ghonkta tem sunnem tsabo na, ani zhankta to monis vaytt korunk pavo na

Englishman bolsant xenn
Uddta to buddta

[Goanet] My world is always better than your world...

[Carvalho]

Dear FN,
Rarely have I come across a talk as full of nothingness as this one. First of 
all, he implicitly assumes the Indian way is superior but more damning that 
that, he assumes that old stereotype, East is East and West is West and ne'vr 
the twain shall meet. In my experience, I have never come across human beings 
that are fundamentally different. We are cosmetically different but never 
fundamentally, never in aspirations and hopes. And this is what unifies us. 


The world is changing because it is challenging every bit of nonsence that has 
been placed before us by way of religion. The choice before is not whether we 
shed our Indianess, the question before us is whether we shed processes that 
don't work. They haven't worked for centuries and they will not work in the 
world that we have to live in, which calls for the most efficient use of 
resource and concepts. And in the end, there always is a one best way of doing 
things. When we discover it, we call that progress. We may do this in terms of 
technological advancement or ideological advancement, but the evolution of 
human 
society necessarily calls for the culling of ways that don't work and embracing 
ways that do.

This "our standards are different from their standards" is in my opinion, a lot 
of brown stuff being shovelled around.

Best,
selma


  

Re: [Goanet] Konkani Proverbs (3)

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Will there be a chance to see English translations of these? Two English
versions of Tamil proverbs: "He who has killed a hundred men, is fit to be a
Doctor"; "The tall palm tree gives no shade".

2010/10/15 Ivo 

> Konkani Proverbs (3)
> Apunn tsor zalyar, bayletso bhavuy tsor
>
> Hanv boro zalyar, ganv boro; hanv tsor zalyar, ganv tsor
>
> Nidlo ani melo munis sarko
>
> Hata voylem tantim ani udharachi kombi
>
> Rup anjyachem, kornnyo devtsarachyo
>
> Yetolo devchtsar, kollotlo sounsar
>
> Pharank devtsar legun bhiyeta
>
> Dudd asa thoym devtsar asa
>
> Munnko devtsar tujer bosla
>
> Kazulo uzo dista mhullyar kamak yeta?
>
> Zhogzhogta iylrym bhsngst noy
>
> Erondd vaddhlyar patthi zata?
>
> Dali vhoddi, saguvat thoddi
>
> Vhodd ghor, pokol vanso
>
> Bhorpyache lag zuzak upkaro nant
>
> Kupache fator godd zalyar, kole sanddtole?
>
> Ghonkta tem sunnem tsabo na, ani zhankta to monis vaytt korunk pavo na
>
> Englishman bolsant xenn
> Uddta to buddta
>