[Goanet-News] SITEWATCH: http://www.goarusha.com/
http://www.goarusha.com/ home about events members fun goans business imp links HIGHLIGHTS Farewell of Alain Randria Farewell of Philu Walkathon Cyclathon Variety Show 2009 Nativity Play 2009 GOA Day 2010 6th East African Goan Convention in Mombassa _ Follow us on facebook DONATIONS For sponsorship donations please contact Ray or you can directly make the donations at Bank Of Baroda, Arusha Branch. Account No. xxx KARIBU The Goans of Arusha Trust (G.O.A.), are proud to have their website. Thanks to Sebastiao Fernandes (a.k.a. Seby) and Alain Randria for creating this website. MESSAGE FROM THE CHAIRMAN: Welcome to our website and thank you for spending time to know about us. Geographically, we, the Goans of Arusha (G.O.A.) are located in the northern region of Tanzania. We are joined by the Goans of Moshi to be in our ambit. Arusha is the mid-point between Cape Town and Cairo while Moshi lies on the foothills of Mt. Kilimanjaro, the highest mountain of Africa. The G.O.A. is a registered Trust. In addition to social gatherings, we look into welfare issues to the extent we can manage, and we integrate with other communities. Since its formation in 1990, the G.O.A. has steadily grown and has now received recognition from Goan communities within East Africa. We are happy to share our experiences with the rest of the world and we hope this will propagate to the generations to come our traditions. In ending my note, I wish to thank the past and present managing committees and the community members for their tireless efforts to keep our trust serving at all times. Ray Travas Chairman Goans of Arusha Trust Managing Commitee E-mail: raytra...@bol.co.tz http://www.goarusha.com/ Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Now available in Toronto, a few copies of *Into The Diaspora Wilderness* by Selma Carvalho. Contact Bosco D'Mello bo...@goanet.org (416) 803-7264 http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/
[Goanet-News] DOCUMENT: GBA's memorandum to the chief minister (October 14, 2010)
Goa Bachao Abhiyan 77, Defence Colony, Alto Porvorim-Goa goabachaoabhi...@gmail.com www.savegoa.com Phone: 9767701245 GBA/2010/41 14 October, 2010 To, The Chief Minister, Government of Goa, Panaji-Goa. MEMORANDUM Due to the opposition of the people of Goa led by the GBA, the Government of Goa, then headed by Mr. Pratapsing Rane as CM, revoked the notified Regional Plan for Goa 2011 in February, 2007. The current Government of Goa set up a Task Force on RP 2021 first in October, 2007 and changed its terms of reference in February, 2008. A draft RP2021 was notified in October, 2008 and then State Level Committee was set up to finalize RP 2021 with inputs from village level committees. All the committees for RP 2021 have been headed ex-officio by the Chief Minister since October 2007. When the draft RP2021 was sent to the villages, the people of Goa made the effort to study it and gave their suggestions and comments trough the Village Level Committee on RP 2021 and the Gram Sabha meetings across Goa hoping that the RP2021 will stop the destruction of Goa and the necessary legislative changes would be made to make a people's participatory plan legally binding on all. However, the RP2021 is yet to be completed and no changes have been made in the laws in force to provide for participatory planning. In the meantime the destruction continues. On the contrary, retrograde changes have been made in the Goa TCP Act, 1974 to provide for PPP vide amended Section 16 16 A and the administration has notified the 'Goa Land Development Building Construction Regulations, 2010' last month to provide for 80 FAR across Goa when many villages have asked for a cap at 50 FAR. Enough notice has been given to the elected Government of Goa and the Goa Administration. The people marched to the CM's official residence on 04 March, 2010, and when no action was forthcoming, to the residence in Margao on 27 March, 2010. The CM has given an assurance on the floor of the Goa Legislative Assembly on 27 March, 2010, that the RP 2021 would be finalized in six months. This period has ended. Repeated meetings have been held with the CM, Chief Town Planner [CTP] of Goa and other officials. A structured meeting was held on 21 April, 2010, with the then Secretary to CM and Secretary for TCP, Forests, WRD Public Grievances, A Chain in the Rain protest was held on 11 June, 2010, at Panaji, to highlight the Goa Government's failure to keep its promise. Very little progress has been made and a lot of damage suffered by the people and ecology of Goa in the meanwhile. The continuance and growth of rampant illegal mining, hazardous industries in residential areas, destruction of traditional livelihoods like fishing and agriculture, demolition of houses, construction of big housing projects in villages, displacement of local residents in the name of development, non-planned construction, denial of tribal rights by non implementation of Forest Dwellers Act 2006, no legislation for participatory planning, etc, are several issues relating to planning which is plaguing the state. People of Goa have patiently waited for promises and assurances given in the Assembly to be fulfilled. In the wake of governance failure the people of Goa have decided to re-launch the agitation to get the just demands fulfilled. Four common issues have been identified by the people after consultations held by GBA along with representatives of various groups to protect Goa for posterity. We Demand 1. Notify VP3 status with 50 FAR in ALL the Villages that have opted for VP3 in the RP 2021. Where there is conflict between the Panchayat Body and the Gram Sabha, adhere to VP3 till the issue is resolved. 2. Notify all Eco-Sensitive Zones [ESZs] at least as shown in Draft RP 2021, like steep slopes, forested areas, paddy fields, mangroves, wetlands, lakes and ponds and protect them form development. 3. Implement the High Court order prohibiting development of multi-dwelling units till the infrastructure is in place [roads, electricity, drainage, garbage disposal, etc] All files with proposals for development without satisfying the above directive is in contempt of the court and should be returned to the applicant, NOT sent to TCP Dept for NOC. 4. Legislate and amend Acts for participatory planning and development which is in consonance with Article 243 of the Constitution of India after the 73rd and 74th amendments to it. The Participatory Planning Process [people's PPP] must have a legal basis
[Goanet-News] Goanet Reader: Understanding Mando -- the song of Goa
UNDERSTANDING MANDO: THE SONG OF GOA Dr. Francisco Colaço dr_col...@yahoo.com What is Mando? Everyone is talking of Mando these days. Mando is a dance-song with lyrics that convey pathos and imagery. It is a concrete symbol of the synthesis of two cultures: the Latin Christian and the Indian Hindu. Nowhere else one sees a file of men dressed in purely Western outfits and a file of women in Indian costumes holding fans gently swaying back and forth to a melancholic tune. Mando conjures reminiscences of a fantasy world of yesteryear to which today's renowned composers have added new, pressing themes that make it a felicitous blend of the new and the old. BITTER-SWEET HISTORY Mando is said to be the biography of the Goan heart: a long tale of our bitter-sweet history with all the joys and sorrows. Something that expresses with immortal lyrics the glory and the martyrdom of Goan heart with its immense capacity to love and to suffer. Any event connected with the Mando generates profound interest among its aficionados. Recently, Goa witnessed one such momentous occasion. Against the backdrop of nostalgic Mando music by Curtorechim Salkam, Dr. Maria Aurora Couto released the book Song of Goa Crown of Mandos written by Dr. Jose Pereira, Michael Martins and Antonio da Costa, a 497-page hardbound book, co-published by the Saligao-based Goa-1556 and Broadway Publishing House. It has proved to be the fruit of much labour, patience and dedication by those who rose to the challenging task. Dr. Couto with her well-known verve and fluency waxed nostalgic about those days when she, her late revered husband Albano and Dr. Jose Pereira formed an inseparable trio. While extolling the grandiosity and scholarship of Dr. Jose she made it a point to stress the latter's simplicity and originality that make him unique, a giant among mortals. She concluded quoting lines from Dr. Jose's touching letter of condolence upon the death of husband Albano (and this brought tears to the eyes of many). Dr. Jose Pereira, the co-author of the book, who had specially flown from US to grace the release function, rose then to speak. With precise, measured, erudite words he gave a scholarly overview about Mando and its significance. Dr. Jose Pereira is the professor emeritus of theology of Fordham University, New York, where he lectured on History of Religions. A multi-faceted multi-talented personality, he has taught and done research in various academic institutions in Lisbon, London and Varanasi and has published 16 books and over 130 articles on theology, history of art and architecture and on Goa and Konkani language, culture, literature and music. He has devoted a great part of his life to the study of Mando, something that fascinates him immensely. Dr. Jose had earlier written a trilogy of books on Mando. Because of the huge demand, no sooner these books were released, they were out of print. This obviously left a big lacuna that had to be filled. The present book Song of Goa Crown of Mandos is a welcome release. The word Crown has been aptly chosen because Mando is indeed a crown made of four jewels: Mandos of Yearning (Utrike), Mandos of Union (Ekvott), Mandos of Lamentation (Villap) and Mandos of News (Fobro). Our immortal Mando composers of yesteryear dealt poignantly with the ardent and passionate love that yearns for union. Since yearning for love at times culminates with marital bliss, at times with failure to achieve union, the love forlorn, the jilted love affair leading to despair, desolation and lament, our great composers of Mando dealt also with this aspect admirably. A sizable space has also been reserved to describe social and political events. Mandos of Fobro deal with historical happenings, scandalous fashions, clandestine affairs and anecdotes from composer's personal life -- truly a portrait of traditional Goa, depicted with humour and malice. It is said that malice delivered impersonally and without prejudice used to be a developed fine art in that bygone era. The book Crown of Mandos is the fruit of much scholarship and meticulous research and beyond doubt, the authors have succeeded in bringing a real treatise on Mando. They have dug through a lot of archives, taken the trouble of interviewing hundreds of people, reviewed thousands of manuscripts, and obtained a wealth of information, treading the breadth and length of Goa, Saxtti in special. As a result, we have now the voluminous reference material at our disposal in the form of a compendium: Song of Goa (Crown of Mandos). Anyone who is interested in the subject (even those who have a bent for research) can now approach mando with a scholarly mind. They are given the rare opportunity to analyze Mandos in a manner never made previously possible. Information about
Re: [Goanet] My world is always better than your world...
Like Admin Noronha, I too do not see that this guy is claiming that his world is better than someone else's. His proposal is that mythology and traditions shape people's ways of behaving and doing business. While there is some truth in this view from the subjective standpoint, the problem I see with his talk is that he goes overboard with his generalizations and metaphors, and ends up wrongly conflating the subjective with the objective. It is a classic example of comparing apples with oranges. The dichotomy he creates between the east and the west is entirely artificial, and of his own making, for this reason. Cheers, Santosh --- On Fri, 10/15/10, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Selma, Devadutt Pattanaik [http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/devdutt_pattanaik.html] struck me as making some very important points. His view didn't strike me as arguing that India is better, but just different. Not just India, but a whole lot of societies which have a non-linear approach towards time. When viewed against the West-is-best, science-is-god, we-know-it-all approaches, the points being made struck me as something interesting. We could quibble about the examples he used to make his point, but what he said did ring a bell while I viewed it. FN Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490
[Goanet] Goa: The Cruellest Inquisition
Instead of giving us the London-based Zimler's opinion about Inquisitional events in Goa, why not provide the actual data about the victims of the Goa Inquisition. We know the number subjected to capital punishment. So why do not we have a breakdown of their ethnicity? If we do not know the ethnic breakdown, can we claim one group was a greater victim than another? Zimler's novel is a classical example where fictional novels are used to back up Goa's history. In fact many references used to substantiate the Inquisition in Goa on Wikipedia are fictional novels. So much for the desire / insistence of Goans to use references. Venatitius are you reading this?:=)) Whoever wrote the Wiki article about the Inquisition in Goa did a great hatchet job. I did not see any references to historians of the 17th /18th century who recorded Goa's history 'real time'. Rather we rely on novels written in the 20th / 21th century. Regards, GL --- Eddie Fernandes Muslims were the major victims of the Spanish Inquisition in Goa. Richard Zimler of course focuses on the couple of Jews. But his work is seminal in the sense that it highlights the plight of the Goans... Zimler says, My novel, Guardian of the Dawn, takes place in the Portuguese colony of Goa during the early 17th century, and it is an historical mystery that explores the dangers of religious fundamentalism...
[Goanet] Can a GSB background be humble? Join the debate at tambdimati: the Goa review
http://www.tambdimati.com/a-letter-to-amita-unpacking-caste-politics/
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Understanding Mando -- the song of Goa
UNDERSTANDING MANDO: THE SONG OF GOA Dr. Francisco Colaço dr_col...@yahoo.com What is Mando? Everyone is talking of Mando these days. Mando is a dance-song with lyrics that convey pathos and imagery. It is a concrete symbol of the synthesis of two cultures: the Latin Christian and the Indian Hindu. Nowhere else one sees a file of men dressed in purely Western outfits and a file of women in Indian costumes holding fans gently swaying back and forth to a melancholic tune. Mando conjures reminiscences of a fantasy world of yesteryear to which today's renowned composers have added new, pressing themes that make it a felicitous blend of the new and the old. BITTER-SWEET HISTORY Mando is said to be the biography of the Goan heart: a long tale of our bitter-sweet history with all the joys and sorrows. Something that expresses with immortal lyrics the glory and the martyrdom of Goan heart with its immense capacity to love and to suffer. Any event connected with the Mando generates profound interest among its aficionados. Recently, Goa witnessed one such momentous occasion. Against the backdrop of nostalgic Mando music by Curtorechim Salkam, Dr. Maria Aurora Couto released the book Song of Goa Crown of Mandos written by Dr. Jose Pereira, Michael Martins and Antonio da Costa, a 497-page hardbound book, co-published by the Saligao-based Goa-1556 and Broadway Publishing House. It has proved to be the fruit of much labour, patience and dedication by those who rose to the challenging task. Dr. Couto with her well-known verve and fluency waxed nostalgic about those days when she, her late revered husband Albano and Dr. Jose Pereira formed an inseparable trio. While extolling the grandiosity and scholarship of Dr. Jose she made it a point to stress the latter's simplicity and originality that make him unique, a giant among mortals. She concluded quoting lines from Dr. Jose's touching letter of condolence upon the death of husband Albano (and this brought tears to the eyes of many). Dr. Jose Pereira, the co-author of the book, who had specially flown from US to grace the release function, rose then to speak. With precise, measured, erudite words he gave a scholarly overview about Mando and its significance. Dr. Jose Pereira is the professor emeritus of theology of Fordham University, New York, where he lectured on History of Religions. A multi-faceted multi-talented personality, he has taught and done research in various academic institutions in Lisbon, London and Varanasi and has published 16 books and over 130 articles on theology, history of art and architecture and on Goa and Konkani language, culture, literature and music. He has devoted a great part of his life to the study of Mando, something that fascinates him immensely. Dr. Jose had earlier written a trilogy of books on Mando. Because of the huge demand, no sooner these books were released, they were out of print. This obviously left a big lacuna that had to be filled. The present book Song of Goa Crown of Mandos is a welcome release. The word Crown has been aptly chosen because Mando is indeed a crown made of four jewels: Mandos of Yearning (Utrike), Mandos of Union (Ekvott), Mandos of Lamentation (Villap) and Mandos of News (Fobro). Our immortal Mando composers of yesteryear dealt poignantly with the ardent and passionate love that yearns for union. Since yearning for love at times culminates with marital bliss, at times with failure to achieve union, the love forlorn, the jilted love affair leading to despair, desolation and lament, our great composers of Mando dealt also with this aspect admirably. A sizable space has also been reserved to describe social and political events. Mandos of Fobro deal with historical happenings, scandalous fashions, clandestine affairs and anecdotes from composer's personal life -- truly a portrait of traditional Goa, depicted with humour and malice. It is said that malice delivered impersonally and without prejudice used to be a developed fine art in that bygone era. The book Crown of Mandos is the fruit of much scholarship and meticulous research and beyond doubt, the authors have succeeded in bringing a real treatise on Mando. They have dug through a lot of archives, taken the trouble of interviewing hundreds of people, reviewed thousands of manuscripts, and obtained a wealth of information, treading the breadth and length of Goa, Saxtti in special. As a result, we have now the voluminous reference material at our disposal in the form of a compendium: Song of Goa (Crown of Mandos). Anyone who is interested in the subject (even those who have a bent for research) can now approach mando with a scholarly mind. They are given the rare opportunity to analyze Mandos in a manner never made previously possible. Information about
[Goanet] KEEP POLITICIANS AWAY FROM SPORTS
There should be a total ban on politicians holding posts in sports organisations. Having corroded the political sphere they drag in the same rot into the sports arena. We have been seeing sports organisations going down the tube due to such bad influence. In a way the politicians cannot be blamed for always wagging their tails. The dog's tail can never be straightened, so goes the saying. Let the sports field be managed by sportsmen and sportswomen. We have so many of them and they will do us proud. Aires Rodrigues T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat Ribandar - Goa - 403006 Mobile: 9822684372
[Goanet] Song for the day.
IZ Kamakawiwoʻole - What A Wonderful World Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0xoMhCT-7Aob=av2e What a Wonderful World - Louis Armstrong http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xotoDy5806Y -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Daily Grook #825
DAILY GROOK #825 === LONG STRONG === by Francis Rodrigues working the pace of the marathon, will win a race in the long run! *GREAT ALL-OCCASION GIFT* http://www.KonkaniSongBook.com sheet-music,tab,lyrics,chords of great Konkani pop hits GOA: PEDRO FERNANDES: Tel.2226642 FURTADOS: Tel.2223278 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119017685910
Re: [Goanet] The Great Benedict XVI
Why They Bash Benedict?: The international media's long-running attacks on Benedict XVI stem in part because of an inaccurate view of him as a retrograde, illiberal and anti-democratic conservative, says a noted Italian journalist. Andrea Tornielli, co-author of Attacco a Ratzinger (Attack on Ratzinger), analyzed why the Holy Father has faced persistent opposition from the press. Secularized power fears the proclamation of an irreducible truth, said Tornielli. There are lobbies and groups with power who are irritated by Christian morality and the Church's ethical teaching. . In certain situations the Church's voice remains the sole bulwark against an anesthetized conscience.
Re: [Goanet] Science of Manipulations
-Original Message- From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão ASPARTAME is a genetically engineered artificial sweetener used as sugar substitute. It is marketed in India as ‘Sugar free”, ‘Low calorie sugar’, etc.; it is also used in ‘diet’ products like ‘diet Coke’, etc. Read how though it was found to produce cancer, it was approved using political muscle power. http://beforeitsnews.com/story/100/245/The_history_of_aspartame_just_reported_for_Prop_65.html And here are scientific studies. http://www.rense.com/general85/luke.htm RESPONSE: Are the above weblinks mainstream news or medical websites?? I doubt. Coca-Cola [1] themselves admit to using aspartame [2]. Does Coca-cola intentionally and knowingly include known carcinogens in their products?? And the FDA is not stepping in?? Perhaps, sometime in the future, the relationship between aspartame and cancer may be established just like bisphenol A [3]. But not yet. I would caution against distributing such unfounded information to anybody. - B [1] http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/contactus/faq/packaging.html [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame [3] http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/science/canada-first-to-declare-bisphenol-a-toxic/article1755272/
Re: [Goanet] Konkani Proverbs (5)
There is a book published on proverbs in konkani By fr.Antonio. The list of proverbs is endless. Albert From: icso...@bsnl.in To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 23:20:13 +0530 Subject: [Goanet] Konkani Proverbs (5) Konknni Mhonn'nnyo (5) Projechi zannvay mhonn'nnyam vorvim dokholl zata. Bhas ani sonvskrutay ekemekakodde zoddtat-zulltat. Mhonn'nnyo mhollyar sonvskruthik hatyaram, tantunt mulyam ani totvam melltat. Mhonn'nyo amchem dayz. Lamb onnbhov hea sangnnyam vorvim thavem zata. Teo amim boroylya, khup pustokam asat, ponn bogor-bogor tancho ugddas kelyar faydyak poddta. Hyo mhonn'nnyo amchya ulovpamni, sermanvamni, tyatramni drixttipoddtat. Hanvem suru kela, to vavr khup zonnamni amkam korun dovorla. Somestamni hya vavrak khand diunk zay. Khup mhonn'nnyo amchea sadhya-sudhya lokachya tonddantlyan vhanvtat. Hanvem Msgr.R.S.Dalgado-chya Florilégio pustokantlyo mhonn'nyo kaddlyat ani to boroyta te bhaxen boroylyat. Ponn atam fuddarak atanchya kallar ami boroytat, tech bhaxen boroytolom. Khup zonnamni mhaka xabaski dilya, hya khatir hanv dhin'vaxi. Hanv hyo Konknni mhonn'nnyo boroytona inglejint, toxench yer bhasamni, mhoje kuveti pormonnem, ditolom. Hi zannvay apnnavum-ya. Us godd mhonn vaddham soyt khavunchim noy: sugarcane is sweet, but one should not eat its leafy part. Because fruits are sweet, we do not eat its seeds. One should not abuse the trust that somebody places on us. Portuguese: Ainda que o teu sabujo é manso, não o mordas no beiço. Bott ghalunk melltoch, hat ghalunk sodhta: allowed to place the finger, one places also the hand. It is also abuse of trust, goodness, benevolence. Port.:Não dês o dedo ao vilão, porque te tomará a mão. Mov mellta, thoym konnoy khonnta: one keeps on digging wherever it is soft. Also abuse of excessive 'goodiness'. Port.: Onde é mole, todos carregam. Dusryachem bhurgem baynt uddoun thav polleta: Somebody sounds the depth of the well by throwing another one's child. It means to seek one's own interest with harm being caused to others. Port.: Tirar a sardinha da brasa com a mão do gato. Zhogzhogta itlem-y bhangar noy: All that glitters is not gold (from William Shakespeare's The Merchant of Venice, 1596, where it is found glisters, it is changed to glitters in modern renditions of the play). Tudo o que luz não é ouro. Nem todo o branco é farinha. French: Tout ce qui brille n'est pas de l'or. Regards. Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] - Australia's first saint overcame excommunication -
Folks, Here is an interesting read. Mervyn1369Lobo -- Australia's first saint overcame excommunication - Yahoo News http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_australia_s_first_saint
Re: [Goanet] Goan jokes and riddles...
Tks Fred, reminds me that I need to add a new post on my blog for konkani jokes... the Konkani riddles are neatly arranged with translations :) except the last one which was Domnic Babs contribution! http://edskantaram.blogspot.com/search/label/Z-Konkani%20Riddles Here is one konkani joke shared on facebook by NevilUk Goa Ek ostori aple saikolir aplea dogaim cheddvank fuddlian ani fatlian bosoun vetali, vatter pulis mevlo... ti saikolir tible seat gheun voita mhunn pulisen tika pirluk marli ani rau mhunon sanglem ti koxich tambonk nam...Pulis maman fatatfat ghaddi gheun tichea fatlean gelo, tika addaili ani vicharlem Pulis: Anvem tuka pirluk marleli, hath dakoilo, rau mhun sanglem tum kiteak ravonk nam?. Ostori: Are tumkam disona anv fudlian ek cheddvak ani fatlian ek cheddvak bosoun vorta ani tumi rau mhuntat tuka anik anv khuim bosoitolim? Edward Verdes http://edskantaram.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From: Frederick Noronha Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:10 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goan jokes and riddles... Nice collection of Goan jokes and riddles here: http://www.goansinoman.com/goan_jokes.htm Thanks to Edward D'Lima for helping me to find this. FN Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490
Re: [Goanet] GBA meeting at Azad Maidan (A report with clip pics)
- Original Message - From: JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 8:06 AM Subject: [Goanet] GBA meeting at Azad Maidan (A report with clip pics) GBA meeting at Azad Maidan (A report with clip pics) clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zn19byDKfM Where is everybody? For god sake it was not something meant for a particular religion Nor it was meant for a particular community or tribe or caste It was for Goa or Goans as a whole. Why should we go? It’s not our Job, we don’t understand it any way. What’s in there for us? Meaning – Cash incentives, Free transport, snacks/drinks etc (Some southern Political rallies etc, leaders offer Rs.15,000 to whoever organises a bus full of people (say 25-30). Out of which he will have to pay Rs.100 per head and the bus charges say Rs.2000-3000). Snacks and water bottles borned by the politicians. (Looks like we even accept cash to stay out) Who else will be there? Meaning Celebrities like Hema Sardesai, Remo Fernandes, Oscar Rebello, Prince Jacob, Nana Patekar etc (if nothing for us then..) Ami paunaim (We are not free) Some may say 'Will let you know' Meaning - after consulting their political leaders to whom they support When the horse is thirsty, one can only take the horse to the pond and not the pond to the horse Ami nidentle kedna utt’ttole gai? (When will we wake up?) At first, on seeing the situation at around 4.30pm, we even thought the meeting might have been cancelled as the CM is out of Goa etc The police force outnumbered those who actually present. Police were on all side of the Azad Maidan. Infact, two of the 4 gates were seen closed, guarded by police There were 5 police buses, one of Lady Police only. Where is everybody? If you take away 50 odd media/press persons, the remainder would be less than 150 that’s around 5.30pm Imagine, what would be the resultant figure if we also take away Moira, Tivim, Nuvem, Ambelim etc delegation /group Amongst others, we also saw Fr. Erimito Rebelo, Prajal Sakhardande, Florian Lobo etc In this clip you will also see 2-3 speakers in the later half http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zn19byDKfM For pics sent earlier, you may refer this link http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-October/200257.html joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] The Difference Engine: Buy quiet (The Economist, London)
SOME say privacy is the greatest luxury. Your correspondent believes silence is even more golden. Like others, he puts up with the hubbub of daily life as a trade-off for the convenience of living in a city rather than the wilderness. In doing so, he accepts there is no escape from the noise of vehicles on the road, aircraft overhead, construction workers hammering away down the street, and gardeners everywhere using lawn-mowers, hedge-trimmers and leaf-blowers. In-doors, the dish-washer, washing-machine, vacuum-cleaner, refrigerator and air-conditioning add to the cacophony. The last thing anyone needs is yet another man-made contraption capable of emitting copious quantities of decibels. Yet, that is precisely what, unthinkingly, your correspondent has just inflicted upon himself and his good neighbours. Regular readers may recall your correspondent wrote earlier this year about the virtues of air tools over electrical ones (see “Air superiority”, April 30th 2010). Since then, he has watched the price of air-compressors continue to fall. So much so, he could not resist buying a new one at a local tool-store sale. It offered twice the horsepower and storage capacity of his existing model, all for little over half what he paid previously. The only problem is that the new air-compressor makes a truly horrendous racket—over 100 decibels (dBA), by one measure, compared with the previous model’s 85dBA or so. He is now wondering how best to silence it—ideally, by at least 10-15dBA. Everyone knows—or thinks they know—what a decibel is. The unit itself was devised back in the 1920s by engineers at Bell Telephone Laboratories to describe the amount of signal lost over a length of standard telephone cable. Because a decibel is ten times the logarithm of one quantity relative to a reference quantity, it can be used to measure the level of practically anything—say, the gain of an amplifier, the signal-to-noise ratio of a wireless transmission, or the level of air pressure above or below one atmosphere. The most common usage is as a measure of relative sound pressure—in short, loudness. Ah, yes, loudness. That is not so simple a matter, either. On the emission side, it depends on the frequencies of the various components in the sound as well as their amplitudes. On the receiving end, the human ear—a non-linear device with enormous dynamic range—adds to the complication. From sounds so loud they can cause permanent loss of hearing down to the quietest the ear can detect spans a frequency range of a trillion to one. The base-10 logarithm of one trillion is 12. That equates to 120 decibels—the level, in sound terms, of a thunderclap immediately overhead, or the blast received in the front row of a rock concert. Because it is non-linear, the ear is not equally sensitive to all frequencies. For good reason, it works best between one kilohertz and five kilohertz—the range where the sounds of predators and other hazards are most likely to be heard. A “weighting curve” has therefore to be used to make sounds measured by microphones and other acoustical instruments more representative of what people actually hear. Of the four different weighting schemes (A, B, C and D curves) developed since the 1930s, the one used most widely today is the so-called A-weighting—hence the term dBA. In general, people find sound becomes annoying when the level in the community, averaged over 24 hours, exceeds 65dBA. Since the introduction of high-bypass jet engines, with their big, slower turning compressor fans, airports have managed to keep more of their 65dBA sound contours within their own perimeters. Likewise, since the advent of welded track and electric locomotives, railways have become less of an annoyance. Car engines, too, have been hushed to well below their annoyance levels. Electric vehicles have become almost too quiet. There is talk of having to equip them with automatic beepers, or even simulated engine sounds, in order to warn pedestrians of their approach. While sound barriers along busy highways have helped make life more tolerable for local residents, research still needs to be done on making road surfaces quieter. The bulk of the traffic sound today comes from the screech and whine of rubber on tarmac or concrete. Transport industries aside, machinery makers in general have been slow to make their products quieter. Cost is the main reason. It takes a lot of engineering effort and extra materials to deaden intrusive sounds at source. To save on materials, for instance, consumer goods like washing-machines tend to have enclosures that are light and stiff—a perfect drum-like combination for radiating sound. A quieter model might have its motor installed in isolated mountings, the pump on a completely separate structure, the tub spinning in automobile-grade bearings, and the enclosure made of layers of material each with a different acoustical impedance.
[Goanet] ''''''THIS IS IT''''''
The Final countdown..30 days to go.. AVC Overseas Sports and Cultural Association - Kuwait in association Dreams Entertainment have set the stage once again after along break, bringing you an evening like never before titled ''THIS IS IT'' at the Al Andalus Hall in Crowne Plaza Hotel, Kuwait on 16th November 2010. In attendance will be '' ALCATRAZ''from Goa and a special performance by ''NIRMANA''. The event will start at 8.30pm and go on till early hours. Also in attendance will be Kuwait's top 6 DJ's John, Marlon, Brandon, Flip, Rishan and Lo. For early reservation contact Marlon on 97215904, Loyola 66260722, Zelito 99785425 and Kevin on 67783234
Re: [Goanet] World Food Day 16th October: Free demonstrations and Exhibition
All the best. Glorio M. Fernandes Doha, Qatar From: Goa Desc goad...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Sat, 16 October, 2010 5:01:32 AM Subject: [Goanet] World Food Day 16th October: Free demonstrations and Exhibition - Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help other CONSUMERS to be better informed. - - World Food Day: Free demonstrations and Exhibition -- The people of Goa are invited to come and participate in the World Food Day to learn more about poison-free organic practices to grow some of their own vegetables at home ... even in an apartment! There is no entry fee, no gimmicks. All this is for the love of Nature. The event will be held at THOMAS STEPHENS KONKNNI KENDR (TSKK) on Saturday 16th October i.e. WORLD FOOD DAY from 10 A.M. to 6.00 P.M. and 17th October Sunday morning. TSKK is located next to XCHR, (same campus) behind O'Conqueiro opposite SAI Colony , Alto Porvorim. It is co-organized by students of various schools assisted by Botanical Society of Goa, GOACAN, Green Essentials, Earthworm, OFAI, Green Goa Works, TSKK and other agencies and individuals. The programme is designed for those who are interested in knowing:How to grow winter vegetables like radish, knol-khol, cluster beans, brinjal, chillies, tomato,cabbage, lettuce, etc How to make WOW [Wealth Out of Waste] of the so-called 'garbage'. How to deal with plastic waste, battery cells and now even e-waste. How traders adulterate your food items in the market,Students of SFX High School, Siolim; Green Valley High School, Pilerne and Holy Cross High School, Bastora, will display their projects on Food Adultration and how to detect it. They could also buy Garden tools, Seeds, Growth boosters and manures, Books on gardening and vegetable growing, or take free samples of: Rhizobium nitrogen fixing bacteria culture for beans, peanuts, etc Trichoderma viridae fungal culture to control diseases that kill plants at flowering. Demonstrations and Presentations: The Saturday morning session is focussed on school students and others in the below 18 years age group. The Saturday evening session and Sunday morning sessions are focussed on adults but children of all ages are always welcome. The event is about learning, not about teaching. For details, contact Miguel 9822982676, Yogita 9960643245 or TSKK office 2415857 -- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK -- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa -- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mail: *goa...@gmail.com* Visit: *http://goacan.blogspot.com * --
[Goanet] Baina Fishermen writes to Goa's Chief Minister re: Fishing Jetty by MPT
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994)® www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/ www.goa-world.com http://www.goa-world.com/goa/credit%5Ccredit.htm Tumcam Maie-mogacho ieukar. Enjoy Life - This is not a rehearsal! Konkani uloi, boroi, vach ani samball - sodankal. Hich Goenchi osmitai ani amchem khalxelponn. Goenchi amchi Konkani bhas! Ekvottachem saddon Goenkaranchem. Stay tuned to Gulf Goans e-Newsletter - everyday someone, somewhere learns a little. Goenchea Raponkarancho Ekvott (Raponkars, Makars, Cantaikars, Pagelkars) Regd. Under Societies Act. 1860 Head Office: Affiliated to National Fish Workers Forum Reg. No. RS./240/76 FABRICA BLDG New Delhi. Reg. No. 487/8 CANSAULIM P.O. 403712 MORMUGAO - GOA Date :- 11.10.2010. To: The Chief Minister, Government of Goa, Secretariat, Porvorim, Bardez, Goa. Sir, This is to bring to your notice the bleak future that awaits traditional fishermen from Baina beach if the clandestine designs of the Mormugao Port Trust sugar coated with a cloak of philanthropy in the garb of constructing a fishing jetty for trawler owners at Baina beach is allowed. In the first place, we firmly that it is the prerogative of the Government of Goa to decide and plan the infrastructure required in the state as it is best equipped to decide in the best interest of the people. Ironically, MPT appears to have usurped this sacred duty of your Government and gone ahead to sign a MOU with the boat owners without even consulting the Government, leave alone consulting the traditional fishermen who are also stakeholders. Sir, currently there are around 1,200 fishermen community members besides the labour living off Baina beach from where they not only carry out their fishing activity but also live there as there are 90 residential houses along the beach. The MPT proposes to construct the fishing jetty at the Southern end of the Baina beach, which means all the fishermen living along Baina beach will be displaced. Besides, if the fishing jetty is permitted here, the fishermen will not be able to carry out their usual activity as the trawler owners will not allow them to fish in the area. As it is right now the trawler owners harass the traditional fishermen in various means like not allowing them to anchor near their jetty and even compelling wholesale fish buyers not to purchase the traditional fishermen’s catch. Sir, this would mean that the poor and marginalized traditional fishing community will be deprived of not only their residential houses but also their means of livelihood, which is quite contrary to your avowed mission of working for the aam admi and therefore, you have to intervene and put the MPT in its place and assert your Government’s prerogative to govern the people of Goa. We also would like to bring to your notice that the MPT is proposing the fishing jetty – which incidentally is a huge project involving construction of a breakwater – that will definitely have an impact on the hydrology of the area and the ecology. It is indeed ironical that MPT is gloating about this project without even carrying out an Environment Impact Assessment study, which is mandated for such projects. As you are aware, the beaches in the Southern taluka of Canacona are facing severe problems of erosion suspected to be caused by the development of the Sea Bird project at Karwar. If MPT is permitted to construct the fishing jetty as per the plans prepared by them, the beaches in Goa will be severely impacted which in turn would affect the flourishing tourism industry that has come to be the mainstay of Goa’s economy as the tourists visit our state only for its beaches, and if there are no beaches left, there will be no tourists coming. In addition, the Baina beach attracts a lot of people because of its natural beauty and particularly during the summer season when various cultural activities are conducted on the Beach. The Government too uses the Baina beach during the International Film Festival of India, which has come to stay in Goa permanently. We would also like to bring to your notice plans to displace fishermen from the Bimbeli beach which is a private property. Fishermen are given access to this beach primarily because it is a private property. It has come to our notice that the Navy is
[Goanet] New Konkani Album Release - Edwin D'Costa
Edwin D'Costa has released his new audio album last month..This is his 73rd album and has plans to release 2 more albums.. To those of you who may not know Edwin D'Costa, he is a singer, composer and producer from Benaulim Goa, presently in Dubai. Edwin has encouraged many new konkani singers in his albums mostly released thru audio cassettes...many of the title songs in his albums are sung by Alfred Rose. Here is a video promo of his album which is dedicated to late Fr. Thomas which has good songs/trios sung by well known singers and is available in Goa. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITZEQcUZ91g Edward Verdes http://edskantaram.blogspot.com/
[Goanet] Goa: The Cruellest Inquisition
--- Frederick Noronha wrote: Interesting! Since Priolkar, we've been lead to believe that the Inquisition somehow targeted the Goan Hindu. Now, writers with Jewish names talk about Muslim and Catholic-coverts as victims. When will we stop playing 21st century games with the intolerance of the 16th (and maybe 17th and 18th too)? Some of these guys seem to be like the ideolgical heirs of the Black Legend creators... all using it for their own purpose. Will the Portuguese now catch up with the Spaniards? While the Inquisition was terrible, perhaps the continued use of its legacy (for political purposes) is worse. - GL responds We will stop playing 21st century games with the intolerance of the 16th (and may be 17th and 18th too) when some current native Goans take the time and effort to rebut the Wikipedia article on the Inquisition in Goa. As described in my prior post on this thread, the Wiki article is a hatchet job done by the writer(s). Now these writer(s) are going to blame those who quote from the Wiki article for distorting and smearing their history writings. An excuse that is getting pretty stale. Goans are their own worst enemies! Regards, GL
Re: [Goanet] Science of Manipulations
Goanetters are not an illiterate lot to be fooled by false and inaccurate information obtained by 'cut and paste' method. They have google with them, and if they just google “Aspartame, genetically engineered” they will get 60 thousand and more sites to confirm from. That will also confirm some of the netters whom not to believe. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
[Goanet] a model for goa? the citizen's green manifesto for western ghats
http://www.tambdimati.com/a-model-for-goa-%E2%80%93-citizen%E2%80%99s-green-manifesto-on-western-ghats/
Re: [Goanet] Growing Old Gracefully
Please read the following information to guard against unsubstantiated claims regarding public health: http://www.quackwatch.com/11Ind/mercola.html Cheers, Santosh --- On Thu, 10/14/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: Interesting article in the link below Please see recommendation No. 6 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/if-you-want-to-age-gracef_b_700335.html Regards, GL
[Goanet] THE SACRED HEART OF JESUS HIGH SCHOOLS AND THEIR FOUNDERS - PART 2
THE SACRED HEART OF JESUS HIGH SCHOOLS AND THEIR FOUNDERS - PART 2 Jacob C. de Souza married Albertina Jorgina Bragança, a native of Baroda, India Britanica. She was a bhattkarn or landlady to the word – she spent most of her time relaxed in an armchair. She passed away at the age of 72 (January 15, 1864 - July 30, 1936.) One year later, Jacob passed away at the age of 79 (April 24, 1858 – August 11, 1937.) Jacob and Albertina had eleven children – nine sons and two daughters as follows: 1) Walter de Souza (RIP: November 14, 1883 – October 18, 1918). He married Martina Pinto. They had two children – Sylvia de Souza (RIP: 1912 - 1984), Archibald de Souza (RIP: March 28, 1914 – January 15, 1969). 2) Albert de Souza. He died at the age of two. 3) Stanislaus Kostka de Souza (RIP: January 27, 1900 – February 24, 1961.) He married Maria Esmeralda de Souza (RIP: November 14, 1909 – September 19, 2002). They had four children - Maria Berylla Teresa de Souza (Born: October 30, 1930), Dr. Alwyn de Souza (RIP: April 26, 1929 – September 29, 2000), Sr. Greta de Souza (RIP: July 3, 1932 – March 7, 2001) and Raynah de Souza (Born: October 13, 1936). 4) Olive de Souza (RIP). She married Charles Parrett. They had four children – Ivy Parrett (RIP: (November 25, 1907 – January 30, 1996)); Myrtle Parrett (Born: August 8, 1912), Hazel Parrett (Born: December 28, 1920), and James Parrett (Born: 1922). 5) Edwin William de Souza (RIP: June 25, 1889 – November 6, 1960). He married Lily Marques - first wife (Died: February 2, 1924). They had one daughter, Sybil de Souza (Born: May 10, 1923). Edwin’s second marriage was to Lily’s sister, Lucia Brigida Apolonia Marques (RIP: February 9, 1902 – August 10, 1987). They had two sons – John de Souza (RIP: 1938-1938) and Bernard de Souza (Born: May 21, 1942). 6) Alphonsus Ligouri de Souza (RIP: March 5, 1896 – January 18, 1942). He married Elsie Beatrice (RIP: 1894 - 1991). They had four children – Olga de Souza (Born: 1922), Phyllis Virginia de Souza (Born: April 17, 1924), Cynthia de Souza (Born: October 16, 1927), Joseph Walter de Souza (Born: August 8, 1933). 7) Marie de Souza - died in infancy. 8) Joseph de Souza – died in infancy 9) Dr. Joseph Crysanthus de Souza. He worked in Abedan. He married Norah Pereira. They had three children. Heather de Souza (Born: December 26, 1938), Sandra de Souza (Born: 1946); Charmaine de Souza (Born: October 26, 1956). 10) Robert de Souza. He established a Travel Agency in Iran. He married Mirum. They had six children – Ramzee Albertine de Souza, Larinka de Souza, Herman de Souza, Lawrence de Souza, Lourdes de Souza, Pricilla de Souza. Robert never came back to Goa. 11) Bernard de Souza. He died at the age of 18 In this article I shall talk only about three of Jacob’s sons and their families who were instrumental in establishing and running the Sacred Heart of Jesus High Schools. (1) SACRED HEART HIGH SCHOOL, PARRA Walter de Souza did his B.A.B.T. from the Bombay University and became a teacher. Photo http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/eK4awa1dJ8JkIJMG5Bzkzg?feat=directlink He married Miss Martina Pinto of Pinto Vaddo, Verla, Parra, settled in her house and became a “ghor-zanvuim”. On January 5, 1912 he set up a school in his wife’s house in Parra and named it ‘Sacred Heart of Jesus High School’ (now Sacred Heart High School – the word ‘Jesus’ was dropped from the title to avoid confusion between the Parra and Anjuna Schools.) It catered to English education and is the second oldest English medium school in Goa, the first being St. Joseph’s High School, Arpora, which was established by Mr. William Lyons in 1887. Walter died at the age of 35 (November 14, 1883 – October 18, 1918) of the World War I epidemic known as the ‘Spanish Flu’ or ‘La Grippe’. It was the most devastating epidemic in recorded world history. Once a person was infected, death was certain. In Goa, most alcoholics survived the disease. In fact, Walter’s family doctor advised him to drink alcohol but since he never drank, he rejected his advice and became a victim of the flu. It was the most fatal infectious disease which is why only close family members attended funerals – the dead body was taken directly to the cemetery. Our boyyas or pede (grave diggers) who buried the dead survived because they were always on drinks! Jacob’s sixth son, Alphonsus Ligouri de Souza, was the first student to pass his S.S.C.E. through the Sacred Heart High School Parra in 1914. He took over as the Principal of the Parra School after the untimely death of his eldest brother, Walter, and was the Principal for more than 20 years. Under his able guidance and leadership the school achieved success in the academic field, sports and co-curricular activities. When Ligouri ran SHHS, Parra, Walter’s son, Archibald de Souza, who held a B.A.B.T., taught in the
[Goanet] Lion Roars - Only in Goa
Miss Moneypenny flows It rained this year more than even Dr Rajendra K Pachauri, Chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, could have predicted even if he could be accused of shooting off yet another set of rigged up figures on climate change. In case, you’ve missed this – even global warming has had its unfair share of contradictions, around the world. But then if you are Indian today and doing well in A-broad, and it so happened that you were Rajendra Pachauri, the UN’s bureaucrat with a bee in his bonnet, you can be accused of anything especially if the accuser is a Brit leading newspaper and is called the ‘The Telegraph’. What you don’t know is that it rained in somebody else’s pocket (or many pockets for that matter) like rain water gushing through storm water drains. You could say, the rainfall was straight from the Mint for those with pockets like funnels, wide and channeled directly into some bank account. Either that or the mountains of mining rejects are getting the better of all the government’s feeble attempts to keep Bicholim from going under. My point being, then why waste money if the problem cannot be solved. It happened in Bicholim where Rs 8.84 crores was spent to desilt the Bicholim river which again this year took its wrath out on the residents of Bicholim town especially the Bandirwada and Gaonkarwada areas. Undertaken by the Water Resources Department, the flood control project was supposed to have been accomplished in three ways. 1. Improvement of waterway to Bicholim river from Kudchire to L.I.S Scheme, Vathadev –tendered to Pan Constructions. 2. Improvement to waterways from L.I.S Scheme to Dhabdhaba – tendered to Noorudheen Construction Pvt. Ltd. 3. Improvement of waterways from Dhabdhaba to Bagwada Pilgao – tendered to Apollo Engineers Contractors Pvt. Ltd. Diamonds Are Forever Is a group of retired government babus trying to emulate Sachin Tendulkar who is never going to retire since he can pick and choose where to play? Or is it that a cabinet-full of selectors just want them to bat on, and on. The Chief Minister Digambar Kamat hired RA Verlekar as his officer on special duty. His age as you read this is 67 years and eleven months to be precise. His under secretary, Amrut Gaonkar is 64 years and ten months. He hired Jagdish Kalangutkar as section officer. His age as you read this is 60 years and four months, but that could be considered younger. Eight of his ministers all have OSD’s (doesn’t that sound like some kind of James Bond adaptation) over the age of sixty years. Licence to Kill or not, Joaquim Alemao’s Man Friday is 68 years and two months old. More power to their guns, but what I don’t understand is the government continuing to pay them a hefty pension because pension deductions are being made from their monthly salaries. BTW, Mickey Pacheco and his Man Friday split after many years of Bonding together. Turned out as Mickey says that while he was manning the cash counters, his Man Friday was on special duty secret assignments of the asset accumulation kind. There is a guestimated Rs 3-5 crore missing from the cash till and none of that I am told went overseas if you get my drift. It’s all here, in Goa, in hard real estate. What was that you said about two sides of the same coin? Dr. No(Goan) No silly, this has nothing to do with the Commissioner for NRI Affairs Eduardo Faleiro’s, project (the third edition) of bringing well-heeled Goans settled abroad on a holiday to Goa this November-December. This is about non-Goans employed as doctors in the Goa Medical College (GMC). Call it a limited edition. You thought doctors (lawyers too) was about the only career Goans choose and become. You were right. So, explain this then. How the GMC employed 66 non-Goan doctors till July 2010 and counting. In 2008 it hired 14 doctors. In the two months May-June, 2009 GMC hired 19 (of the 66) doctors and two more in December 2009. In 2010 five doctors were hired. The Goa Dental College Hospital has 13 non-Goan doctors on its rolls. So, now we don’t have dentists too. You wish those Goan Diaspora holidaying here will get their teeth into this? I do too. The Goa College of Pharmacy has two. They were hired in 2009 and 2010 as lecturers. The Institute of Psychiatry Human Behaviour rehired two clinical pathologists after they retired in 2005. For Your Eyes Only The Goa Barge Owners Association (GBOA) president Atul Jadav is going around telling any newspaper that listens that Goa is in dire need of a maritime industrial estate. Inevitably, the case of the Dubai Maritime City was cited as evidence without the corollary of course, that abroad there is definite transparency and definitive law. It pissed off the Environment Minister Aleixo Sequeira who called up Jadav. Thing is GBOA wants the government to acquire five lakh sq mts at Bhoma near the Cumbarjua canal. Blunder 1. He was cocksure that the new environment would be protected but agreed the present repair
[Goanet] Our Saint Jose Vaz !
Goa born Jose Vaz had disagreed with his superiors. I am not sure if he unhinged the complex, but they have long memories: he will never, never be canonized, not if he-- were to freeze over. eric. Folks, Here is an interesting read. Mervyn1369Lobo -- Australia's first saint overcame excommunication - Yahoo News http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_australia_s_first_saint
[Goanet] SON’VARACHIM SUNGTTAM: Motdarank M ol Yeta…
GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994)® www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/ www.goa-world.com http://www.goa-world.com/goa/credit%5Ccredit.htm Tumcam Maie-mogacho ieukar. Enjoy Life - This is not a rehearsal! Konkani uloi, boroi, vach ani samball - sodankal. Hich Goenchi osmitai ani amchem khalxelponn. Goenchi amchi Konkani bhas! Ekvottachem saddon Goenkaranchem. Stay tuned to Gulf Goans e-Newsletter - everyday someone, somewhere learns a little. SON’VARACHIM SUNGTTAM: Motdarank Mol Yeta… - Jose Salvador Fernandes Otubrache 31ver, 2010 Gõyant Nogorpalikancheo vinchnnuko. Hea vinchnnukanchi toyari boreach nettan chalu asa. Toxem pollevnk gelear, halinchea kallar, uprant teo Panchayaticheo, Zilla Porixodecheo, Vidhan Sobhecheo, Lok Sobhecheo vo anik kosleo-i zaum, hea sogllea vinchnnukank sumara bhailem mhotv ailam. Hem mhotv noitik nhoi, sot’teche nodrentlean ubem zalam. Dekunuch, aiz khuinchea-i panvddeaveleo teo vinchnnuko zaum, tantum svarth asloleank apo-ap ‘interest’ yeta. Kosleo-i teo zaum, vinchnnuko lagim pavta-pavta, motdaranchem mol vaddunk lagta. Motdarank ogich, boslole kodden mhotv yeta. Toxem pollevnk gelear, tem mol motdarank vinchnnuk loddovpi umedvaruch ditat. Vinchnnukam vellar, vinchnnuk loddovpi umedvar motdarank mathear ghevn nachtat. Motdar sangtat tem kitem-i korunk te raji astat. Tea vellar motdarank khuxak dovrunk te pãymamni kitli-i vatt cholonk aite astat. Dusrea utramni, aplo zago tea-tea panvddear mozbut korunk te motdaram khatir kitle-i mov zavnk aite astat. Vinchnnukechea rattavollinchea disamni, te motdaranchea ghorache umbre maddounk zotiancheo kitleo-i paro zhorovnk toyar astat. Konna-i koddchean tor chodd nhoi zalear, thoddem tori ‘business’ haddunk zai zalear, LIC-chea ‘agent’-ank ek gozal bore ritin khobor asa. “Business’-a khatir ‘client’ mhunn sodunk to jea ghorant bhitor sorta, tednam to tea ghorant lhan bhurgim aslear tancher kherit bhor dita. Tanche kodde chodduch khellta, fokannam korta, tanchi loktubay korta. Ani dusre pavtt to tea ghorak bhett ditana, tea lhan bhurgeam khatir bhurgeanghe avddichi oxi kosli-i vost hatant dhorta, ani apurbay kortole toren, avoy-bapai uzram ti khavpachi vost tea ghorantlea bhurgeank dita. Aplea bhurgeanchi khuinche-i ritin konnem-i apurbay keli zalear avoy-bapuy khuxal zatat. Aplea bhurgeanchi apurbay korpi mon’xa thaim avoy-bapayche-i il’le-il’le korun boreponnache som’bond vaddtat. Ani tednam, hea LIC-chea nanvan aplo ‘business’ korpeak-ui tanche koddchean aplo ‘business’ korpak vatt borich meklli zata. Dusrea utramni, bhurgeam udexim to avoi-bapaychem mon jikta. Hem sangpa fattlem karonn? Hoi-nhoixe torechi gozal mhojea-i jivtant halinch ghoddli. Aitar soddun hanv ghora mellonam. Mhonntoch, fattlea Aitara, amche Nogorpalikechi vinchnnuk loddovpi, amchea vaddeantle, fattim-fuddem dog umedvar mhaka bhettle. Pottounche khatir…. Vinchnnukek apnnak mot ghal mhunn sangche khatir…. Punn, hansdot-hansot mot ghal mhunn sangche poilim, tannim dogaimni, ap-aple porim mhaka jikon ghevpacho prototn kelo… Eklo mhonnpak laglo – “boro vavr korta tum… khubxe pavtti ‘paper’-ancher fottu polletam hanv tuje… khorench, tuje oxe fottu potrancher ba polletoch hanv khuzxal zatam… kitlem-i zalear amchea ganvak nanv nhoi tem? Osoch tuzo vavr chalu dovor… ani kednam-i, kosli-i karyavoll korpak tumkam mozot zai zalear sang mhaka… ” Dusrea umedvaran-ui mhaka chonneachea zhaddar choddovpacho proyotn kelo – “ adim tujim borovpam vachtalom hanv… tim mhaka vachunk khub avoddtat… boro boroyta tum…” Monant mhonnlem, hem soglem sangunk Nogorpalikechi vinchnnuk yeum porian kiteak ravnk zai aslem? Ghor kaim chodd pois naslem? … vinchnnuko lagim pavta-pavta motdarak apo-ap mol yeta mhonnta ti hi gozal! Sonv'var, 16 Octubr 2010 www.goa-world.com Posted by Goa-World.COM Goan Agony Uncle with attitude! http://www.tambdimati.com/manu-uncle-total-confidentiality-assured/ To contact us email goaworldto...@yahoo.com copying uly...@yahoo.com also visit http://www.graffitisys.com/ http://www.looxcie.com/ www.konkanifilmbook.com http://aitaracheokaskuleo.blogspot.com/ http://www.yahoogroups.com /group/gulf-goans
[Goanet] 42 candidates in fray for BMC polls
-- Samir Umarye BICHOLIM OCT 16: There are 42 candidates in the fray for the Bicholim Municipal Elections as today 15 candidates withdrew from the fray. In all 88 nomination papers were filed for the BMC elections out of which In all 57 forms were accepted after scrutiny by the Bicholim deputy collector on Tuesday. Today was the last day of withdrawal and in all 15 candidates withdrew from the fray. The 42 candidates who are now in the fray include WARD 1- Anita Harmalkar, Archana Lamgaonkar, Asmita Malgaonkar, Deepa Shirgaonkar, Milan Vaigankar, Rakshanda Pal, Reshma Pal. WARD -2 - Bharat Chanekar, Kamlakar Teli, Sanjay Parmekar, Vithal Karmalkar WAR -3- Gajanan Morajkar, Milind Pal, Narayan Betkekar, Nilesh Tople. WARD -4- Abhijit Teli, Jayendranath Govekar, Kamlesh Teli, Kiran Kawthankar WARD -5- Ajit Birje, Aman Pathan, Rajanikant Lawanis, Ravindra Divkar, Shrikrishna Dhond, Yogesh Kansar. WARD- 6- Abdul Baig, Abdul Rauf, Kamal Mirja, Nazir Baig, Niyamat Pathan, Riyaz Beig. WARD - 7- Anisha Vernekar, Deepa Mandrekar, Shama Gawde Mayekar, Usha Kadkade. WARD - 8- Premanand Mayekar, Ramdas Mayekar. WARD - 9 - Alornekar Shashikant, Gaonkar Rajaram WARD - 10 - Karuna Govekar, Manisha Shirodkar, Sujata Hoble.
[Goanet] The MNE Manifesto for Mapusa for the Mapusa Municipal Elections-2010
Dears, This is to announce that MNE [MAPUSA NAGRIKANCHO EKVOTT] has 5 candidates in fray as a PANEL in the forthcoming Mapusa Municipal Elections sheduled for 31st. October, 2010. It will be a peculiarity to note that 4 out of 5 candidates are WOMEN. The joint visible campaign of the MNE for the Panel will commence from Tuesday (19 Oct) or Wednesday (20th October) The candidates are: Jacinto D'Souza [Baby doll] for Ward No.3 [Karaswado] Ms. Jeanette Gomes [Almira] for Ward No. 4 [Camarkhajan] Ms. Freeda Coutinho [Almira] for Ward No. 6 [Feira Alta] Ms. Samira Swar (Natekar) [Ball] for Ward No. 8 [Angod] Ms. Angela Sequeira [Almira] for Ward No. 15 [Morod] This is for your kind information. Thank you Cheers floriano GSRP/GEAG/PPS/NME www.goasu-raj.org It is not ENOUGH that GOOD, HONEST citizens contest elections. It is not ENOUGH that GOOD, HONEST citizen voters elect good, honest representatives. GOA urgently needs 'GOOD, HONEST, DISCIPLINED SYSTEM of GOVERNANCE'. Wherein, even a dishonest person is forced to be good, honest n disciplined, or to QUIT. Only through PPS can such 'good, honest n disciplined system of governance' be identified and accepted. PPS GOA =PEOPLE for POLITICAL SANITY = PEOPLE'S POWER SYSTEM for a date in 2012 Display the 'PPS' sticker on your vehicle today, to reject political madness tomorrow. http://www.goasu-raj.org/gen/articles/70.asp http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/254068/1043608998/name/roadmap_goa-su-raj_party.pdf http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/attachments/folder/132590897/item/64224316/view
[Goanet] Goanet Personalities # 2 Introduction to Mr. Silvan M. De Sa
Mr. Silvan M. De Sa was born in 1942. Hailing from the village of Soccoro, (fellow G'netter to Vivian [Soccorkar] D' Souza), Silvan did his secondary schooling from one of Bardez's prestigious institutions, St. Anthony's High School, Monte de Guirim - popularly known as 'Montir' or simply Guirim, passing out from the class of 1959. From 1960 to 1970, Silvan worked in Nairobi, Kenya. In 1972, he moved on to better pastures in Doha, Quatar. There he served as the Head Cashier to a Computer Manager for the then only 5 star Hotel in Doha, the Gulf Hotel which has now been promoted to the Doha Marriott. In 1990, Silvan finally hung up his gloves and made his move to Goa to be with his family. But Silvan's story does not end here. Silvan is too astute to let his efforts of the past thirty years go to waste for he has, used his hard earned experience and his intelligence to put it in his own words, to develop and deploy useful application software for inventory control, accounting for Churches and Housing Co-operative Societies, village census compilation, etc Silvan can be found at his home address which is Ambirna, Soccoro, Bardez, Goa or sil...@dataone.in Fellow Goanetters, it is with pride and pleasure that I present Mr. Silvan M. De Sa -- Tony de Sa. tonydesa at gmail dot com ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
Re: [Goanet] Science for sale ...
- Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcao wrote: From Mr. Santosh Helekar's posts on Goanet on the subject Science for sale..', it is obvious that he does not know how to discuss issues. I don't expect discussions to proceed in such manner, specially when one claims to be teaching post graduates and post doctorates. Basic knowledge of how discussions are to proceed is imparted as students in any field. I pity the students and regret the standard of education in any Institute where a teacher himself does not know to conduct a discussion. --- GL responds: The way I look at it, 'less than five' Goans, very educated but totally uncouth, have repeatedly held Goanetters hostage both on and off goanet. Like self-appointed Mafia Bosses, they have prevented others having an intellectual and reasoned dialog. Yet some straight-talk from a few like Dr. Ferdandino, Gabe Menezes and others may have finally worked the magic. Straight talk for those who need spoon feeding is calling a spade a spade. Dr. Ferdandino's training in psychiatry has helped him spot and expose some prominent Goanetters with behavioral problems. I strongly support the notification to place Goan spam-posts on the international web and for archive. Now that Goan spammers have been put on notice, I would think anyone with the savvy and skill to do so, can do it. Goanet has become a past time and outlet of personal frustrations for those isolated. This may be in their rooms, on some remote island, no hobbies, no occupation; and for all that I know may even be ostracized by their own family. But others cannot be the victims of their plight. Regards, GL
Re: [Goanet] Science of Manipulations
--- On Fri, 10/15/10, Bosco D bos...@canada.com wrote: I would caution against distributing such unfounded information to anybody. Nobody can prevent such unfounded information from being distributed on Goanet or by chain emails. The only thing that one can do on Goanet is provide immediate informative refutations of it. Therefore, moderators must allow posts countering such bogus information to appear here in a timely manner. The reason even supposedly educated people fall for these urban legends is because they invariably conform to their beliefs and ideology. The best approach for any sensible person to adopt is not to trust what is claimed to be scientific, medical or health-related information displayed on political and ideological websites such as Huffington Post and Drudge Report, or for that matter, the various health guru and spiritual websites. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] Science of Manipulations
Bosco D. wrote : Are the above weblinks mainstream news or medical websites?? I doubt. Coca-Cola [1] themselves admit to using aspartame [2]. Does Coca-cola intentionally and knowingly include known carcinogens in their products?? And the FDA is not stepping in?? Perhaps, sometime in the future, the relationship between aspartame and cancer may be established just like bisphenol A [3]. But not yet. I would caution against distributing such unfounded information to anybody. RESPONSE: I would suggest Bosco go to ‘advanced Google’, and insert : ‘Aspartame genetically modified”. You will get a million sites and many medical websites giving you some insight on this topic. I have precisely titled the subject as ‘Science of manipulations’ because it was approved by using political muscle power. And when it is approved, where does your FDA have teeth? Coca-cola is a consumer product, so are all others using Aspartame, and will definitely derive maximum benefit in their sales when they can market it as ‘low calorie’ or ‘diet’. Products are marketed by taking advantage of human susceptibility; overweight people want to reduce with the least of effort. See how ‘low calorie’ or ‘sugar free’ products are market on all media. Bosco is right and cautious in saying “sometime in the future, the relationship between aspartame and cancer may be established”; but does it mean until then people can go on consuming at the detriment to their health? It is not unfound information as he cites. No research has categorically stated that it does not cause cancer, and anything Genetically Modified has its repercussions with your genes. It is for Goans to be cautious and aware, and be prudent that this product is not totally safe. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
[Goanet] (no subject)
Bhale bab wrote, Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam was the ideology of Bharatiya origin. etc. Reply: Perhaps not all know the word Vasudhaiva kutumbakam. Vasudha + iva kutumbakam = Vasudhaiva kutumbakam. Vasudha means The Earth (world), iva means Only. which implies, ' THE WHOLE EARTH (WORLD) IS MY FAMILY. The depth height of Bharatiya thought is breathtaking :- Why is the earth called Vasudha? Why is Vishnu (Krishna) Vasudeva? Vasu means Divine delight. Dha (or Dhara) is 'that which receives/contains'. In other words, a receptacle ( of grace) So,THAT WHICH RECEIVES or CONTAINS THE DIVINE DELIGHT IS VASUDHA. Bhale bab also said Bharatiya. What is Bharat? In Sanskrit Bha means light ( of cognition, of knowledge, of consciousness) 'Ratah' means to play/live/engage,involve and the like. The word Bharat means WHOSOEVER THAT IS CONSCIOUS IS BHARATIYA. Wow! What deep meaning!! Simple Sanskrit subhashitahs uplift the soul to such an extent that the being forgets earthly toil and begins to rejoice again. That magic perhaps, is nowhere else. Alas! We have lost most of this simple living and high thinking. The convent education, and other Western brands of education, coupled with our near pathological need to ape the west has impoverished us all. But not all is lost. When I read Dr. Nandakumar Kamat talking about mushroom growing in his backyard, I see hope. The fundamental thrust of Western mentality is towards an acute pragmatism. That makes the whole culture narrowly utilitarian. Of course, all lofty thought must be put to use, but that should not make us utilitarian only. There must be ample space to dream lofty dreams without assuming that Man is the end of things. What prof. Hawking on Goanet can say for certain that Man is the final stage in evolution? Man is a transitional being says Sri Aurobindo. That gives me hope, and restores my faith in the principle of the possible. In 'Bharatiya' thought there is no room for discrimination between West and East, for the whole world is my family. But like Bhale, we are proud of these things we read in books of India's glorious past. That UNDESERVING PRIDE must be justified by beginning to live our high ideas. Charudatta Prabhudesai Auroville . South India.
Re: [Goanet] Science for sale ...
Gilbert is now taking out his frustrations about Goanetters who have exposed his follies by smearing and insinuating their innocent families who have nothing to do with Gilbert or Goanet. What a shameful thing to do! BTW, all responses to such abusive posts are already being posted on international Goan websites for the last 15 years. Cheers, Santosh --- On Sat, 10/16/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote: The way I look at it, 'less than five' Goans, very educated but totally uncouth, have repeatedly held Goanetters hostage both on and off goanet. Like self-appointed Mafia Bosses, they have prevented others having an intellectual and reasoned dialog. Yet some straight-talk from a few like Dr. Ferdandino, Gabe Menezes and others may have finally worked the magic. Straight talk for those who need spoon feeding is calling a spade a spade. Dr. Ferdandino's training in psychiatry has helped him spot and expose some prominent Goanetters with behavioral problems. I strongly support the notification to place Goan spam-posts on the international web and for archive. Now that Goan spammers have been put on notice, I would think anyone with the savvy and skill to do so, can do it. Goanet has become a past time and outlet of personal frustrations for those isolated. This may be in their rooms, on some remote island, no hobbies, no occupation; and for all that I know may even be ostracized by their own family. But others cannot be the victims of their plight. Regards, GL
[Goanet] Goa to host NRB West Zone Championship(25-26th Oct)
Goa will be hosts to the Inter State West Zone Badminton Championship 2010, to be organised by Goa Badminton Association in association with the Sports Authority of Goa. The NRB Championship which will feature 5 States, namely Gujarat, Maharashtra, Chattisgarh, Madhya Pradesh and hosts Goa will be held at Indoor Stadium, Campal-Panaji from 25 to 26 October 2010. The NRB Group, Manda and Narayan Bandekar Charitable Trust, are the major sponsors of the Championship. The following players have been selected to attend the Badminton coaching camp which will be held up to October 23rd, 5 pm onwards: Mens: Govind Navelkar, Floyd Araujo, Navneet Nasnodkar, Sunny Sawant, Pankaj Naik, Parag Chouhan and Darwin Barretto. Under 19 Boys: Sharmad Mahajan, Rahul Chandrashekar, Chinmay Kamat, Pratith Naik, Aniket Shenai and Krishnaraj Gawas. Under 19 Girls and Ladies: Anushka Kuvelkar, Anura Prabhudesai and Pranjal Chimulkar. The Camp will be conducted by NIS Coaches Roy Athaide and Vinayak Kamat who have also been appointed as Coaches of the Goa Teams for the West Zone Championship. Sandeep Heble has been appointed as the Manager of the Goa Badminton Team. Selected Players have been asked to report for the Camp at the Venue. yours sincerely Sandeep Heble Member, Goa Badminton Association 9326129171
[Goanet] NRB West Zone Championship(25-26th Oct)- 9 days to go
West Zone Championship Poster available at: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1804811l=e1c137da94id=1187066172 yours sincerely Sandeep Heble Member, Goa Badminton Association 9326129171
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Personalities # 2 Introduction to Mr. Silvan M. De Sa
On 16 October 2010 21:30, Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com wrote: Mr. Silvan M. De Sa was born in 1942. Hailing from the village of Soccoro, (fellow G'netter to Vivian [Soccorkar] D' Souza), Silvan did his secondary schooling from one of Bardez's prestigious institutions, St. Anthony's High... Dear Tony, Thanks for that interesting introduction, and for helping us to get to know about the work of other Goanetters. Your volunteering is certainly helpful, and to be appreciated. Though I met Silvan, your write-up told me about many other aspects about him. In part, Goa is impoverished because the left hand doesn't know the work that the right hand is doing in the State Way back in 2002, I had written something on him. This might be of interest to some others on the list: * * * Divinity @ Goa Frederick Noronha http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020812/login/main7.htm FROM sermons to software! That's the shift Silvan M. D'Sa wants to nudge churches in Goa into as he polishes his code that seeks to give the parish an IT thrust - and make it easy for priests to manage their funds and the faithful. From keeping tab of church revenues to listing devotees in a particular neighbourhood, two of D'Sa's packages promise to make life easier for church administrators. One of them, Fabrica Accounts, keeps tabs of church accounts. It has slots to account for payments made for a range of service - prayers in the cemetery, processions, sermons, bells and chimes - or the celebrant's stipend. You don't need to think... just go to the right slot and enter the amount, said D'Sa, who runs a small software outfit, Computech, out of the north Goa town of Mapusa. From the church revenue, a part of the earning goes to the priest as compensation for his work. This segregation is done by the software, said D'Sa. Each month, a summary of the accounts is automatically generated. The software complies with the requirements of the Goa church. It confirms to the income and expenditure register that is required by the Goa and Daman Archdiocese's seccao das confrarias (section for confrarias). Another software that D'Sa has written keeps records of parish members. It cross-links devotees residing in the neighbourhood with the ledgers where their records are maintained. If a priest wants to get across his message by post, the software generates neat mailing labels that list the heads of the households. Posting out a message to all thus becomes an easier task. But finding the right persons to run the software is no easy task. People come for a month, and then leave. I've trained at least five persons so far, lamented D'Sa. Getting takers for the program is also not easy - not surprising, given that software is a rather new field in Goa. http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020812/login/main7.htm * * * And this is what Silvan wrote about eight years ago, telling me about his work here: Thanks for your email regarding the Census software for Goan Parish Churches. Although I am not good at writing articles, here is a brief description of the software package. As I used to be a member of the Fabrica of Our Lady of Socorro Church, Socorro, Bardez, Goa from 1998-2001, I inherited a labourious handwritten system of accounting for the various pastoral activities of our Church. After taking over from my predecessor, I decided to computerize the accounting system. Initially the system was DOS-based but after learning MS-Access the implementation was converted to Windows, The system produces various reports and screen displays as required by our Parish Vicar. A Trial Balance is available at any time to check the arithmetical accuracy. In early 2000, our Parish Vicar needed a system to find out the composition of parishioners of each ward of the Village broken down by Sectors which are further made up of various individual households and the details of all the persons making up each household. After almost 1 year of development, I have designed a Windows-based system using the MS-Access platform called the Parish Census system. One can find out in seconds, the total number of parishioners in each sector, ward, household as well as details of each individual such as his name, age, date of birth, date of marriage, education, place of work, whether resident or non-resident etc. etc. Facility also exists for printing mailing labels of every Head of House for purpose of circulars and mass mailings. In addition, there are three modules namely, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials where the data is input from the official Registers kept by each Church. Once this data is input in the system, one can locate any parishioner's document by selecting his name from a drop-down screen list. The Beta version of this system was installed in the Socorro church early last year [2001] and it is running well according to expectations. Both these systems can be customised according to each Parish requirements. I in the process of giving a
[Goanet] KEEP POLITICIANS AWAY FROM SPORTS
There should be a total ban on politicians holding posts in sports organisations -Let the sports field be managed by sportsmen and sportswomen. We have so many of them and they will do us proud. Yes, I agree to you Aires Rodrigues. Regards Peter Fernandes (Dubai UAE)
[Goanet] Oct 16 and...
Can you believe it? Oct 16 and it's still raining (since late afternoon) in Goa, almost as if it's the monsoons! Went to Miramar, and there virtually wasn't a soul around on the beach. Not even JoeGoaUk :-) FN Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490
Re: [Goanet] KEEP POLITICIANS AWAY FROM SPORTS
Just a question to the learned advocate: Would it be constitutional? and How about Lawyers should they be banned from GoaNet, the Media etc? Does anybody believe that the Goa politicians are any less crooked than the Goa lawyers/ jc On 15 October 2010 20:01, Aires Rodrigues airesrodrigu...@gmail.com wrote: There should be a total ban on politicians holding posts in sports organisations.
Re: [Goanet] (no subject)
Dear Charudatt, Nice to hear from you in Auroville, where I hope it's raining less than in Goa! Trust your art is doing fine and flowering. Just to take issue with what you say below: * I disagree with the view that a single statement of intent (in this case, a quote from the 12th century Hitopadesha, Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam, the whole world is one single family) can be used as an argument to claim that this was actually practised. We do know that the reality was different, as is bound to be in any society. * Forget the world, people of another skin colour, another varna, another language group, another tribe, another State are even to this day not accepted as belonging to one family. (And you just need to read some posts on Goanet to know this.) * There is little or no reason to believe that your ancestors and mine were not bigoted against The Other, as much as we are to this day, if not more. * Even if the BJP, Golwalkar, or Murli Manohar Joshi (at Auroville, no less!) have cited Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam when they would like to reveal a liberal face, it hardly masks their politics of hate. In the Bantuu language of South Africa, there is the concept of Ubuntu (I am what I am because of who we all are.) But this hardly stops inter-tribe strife. Kenyans and Swahili speakers have Harambee (all pull together). But does this stop corruption in East Africa? Mervyn could tell us more about Ujamaa (extended family or familyhood... a person becomes a person through the people or community) in Tanzania. All good concepts, but the reality? To me, there are more positions than simply having to choose between (i) looking down on things traditional, and other religions, because we can't understand them and (ii) claiming that ours is the best, and can do no wrong. I think religions and cultures and ideologies are not superior or inferior, just different. Each having its own set of plus and minus points. If we could accept that, it would be a huge step forward. FN Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490 On 16 October 2010 23:09, Charudatt Prabhudesai char-...@hotmail.com wrote: Bhale bab wrote, Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam was the ideology of Bharatiya origin. etc. Reply: Perhaps not all know the word Vasudhaiva kutumbakam. Vasudha + iva kutumbakam = Vasudhaiva kutumbakam. Vasudha means The Earth (world), iva means Only. which implies, ' THE WHOLE EARTH (WORLD) IS MY FAMILY. The depth height of Bharatiya thought is breathtaking :- Why is the earth called Vasudha? Why is Vishnu (Krishna) Vasudeva? Vasu means Divine delight. Dha (or Dhara) is 'that which receives/contains'. In other words, a receptacle ( of grace) So,THAT WHICH RECEIVES or CONTAINS THE DIVINE DELIGHT IS VASUDHA. Bhale bab also said Bharatiya. What is Bharat? In Sanskrit Bha means light ( of cognition, of knowledge, of consciousness) 'Ratah' means to play/live/engage,involve and the like. The word Bharat means WHOSOEVER THAT IS CONSCIOUS IS BHARATIYA. Wow! What deep meaning!! Simple Sanskrit subhashitahs uplift the soul to such an extent that the being forgets earthly toil and begins to rejoice again. That magic perhaps, is nowhere else. Alas! We have lost most of this simple living and high thinking. The convent education, and other Western brands of education, coupled with our near pathological need to ape the west has impoverished us all. But not all is lost. When I read Dr. Nandakumar Kamat talking about mushroom growing in his backyard, I see hope. The fundamental thrust of Western mentality is towards an acute pragmatism. That makes the whole culture narrowly utilitarian. Of course, all lofty thought must be put to use, but that should not make us utilitarian only. There must be ample space to dream lofty dreams without assuming that Man is the end of things. What prof. Hawking on Goanet can say for certain that Man is the final stage in evolution? Man is a transitional being says Sri Aurobindo. That gives me hope, and restores my faith in the principle of the possible. In 'Bharatiya' thought there is no room for discrimination between West and East, for the whole world is my family. But like Bhale, we are proud of these things we read in books of India's glorious past. That UNDESERVING PRIDE must be justified by beginning to live our high ideas. Charudatta Prabhudesai Auroville . South India.
Re: [Goanet] KEEP POLITICIANS AWAY FROM SPORTS
With due respect, JC is simply playing the role of Leader of the Opposition here. This time, I agree with Aires Rodrigues, and feel he has correctly diagnosed the problems caused by politicians who come to the helm of sports bodies across India (and probably elsewhere too). The case of chess in Goa typical. When nobody noticed it, Goa was producing world champions. Once the politicians and moneybags noticed this trend, intense politicking and battles for control began. But what is the way out? Who will ban the politicians from sports, as Aires suggests? Will the politicians suddenly wake up one day, realise the damage they are causing, and legislate to remove themselves out from the sporting arena? I think the questions one needs to raise are: * Why do sportsmen allow politicians to infiltrate their arena? * What are the structural flaws (being starved of funds, too many seeking too little funding, nepotism and favouritism?) that encourage (in fact, make it essential for) politicians to enter sporting organisations? * Do we have any models where sports has succeeded without politicians? If not, why not? * Can we have a rogues gallery, pointing to particular politicians who have ruined particular sports maybe starting with a small state like Goa? Just a thought. Needless to say, I claim no expertise in this field, and unlike others like Augusto Pinto or Shrikant Barve, have not been a sports organiser in real (or imaginary) life. FN Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490 On 17 October 2010 00:42, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: Just a question to the learned advocate: Would it be constitutional? and How about Lawyers should they be banned from GoaNet, the Media etc? Does anybody believe that the Goa politicians are any less crooked than the Goa lawyers/ jc On 15 October 2010 20:01, Aires Rodrigues airesrodrigu...@gmail.com wrote: There should be a total ban on politicians holding posts in sports organisations.
[Goanet] Goan Literacy
Repsonse to Arwin: I beg to differ on literacy factor for Good Governance in Goa. If you look at 40 naughty MLA elected by Goan Electorate majority of them have fairly good educational back-ground. And, if you compare their performance, they are almost in par. The 5th grader Minister and BSC Chief Minster have more or less performed same in terms of corruption, nepotisms and arrogance etc. For that matter even the leader of opposition who is IIT has performed worst than 5th Grader. IIT skills are being used to engineer defection and power broking then for good governance. Take for example; Singapore which was marshy land is today best city state in the world. And Goa, the Rome of East is now almost Pimp of East thanks to Bad Governance by our Goans. Even a least literate person will do a better job provided he or she must be honest, sincere and trustworthy. Late Sheikh Rashid of Dubai was not highly qualified but had a vision to turn desert in to business hub. He did not have money yet build 2 biggest ports in the Middle East (Jebel Ali Port is now ranked 3 in the world) soon after its independence in 70's. Singapore and Dubai marched ahead by building the Ports, whereas Goa which had natural deep sea port (Marmagoa) is still lingering in its development thanks to apathy of Goa Government and MPT . Singapore and Dubai within the span of 25 years rose from sleepy marshy/dusty states to Modern States whereas Goa is going for dogs. Politicians have to be patriotic to its motherland and not highly literate. Selfless service to nation will build the nation. Self service will ruin the nation. Self service is now rampant in Goa like other parts of India. Agnelo Pinheiro Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 05:23:00 +0400 From: Arwin Mesquita arwinmesqu...@gmail.com To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Goan Literacy Message-ID: aanlktingtk-1z_db5axzxn86fgavz4ok+n_wuspa5...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Many Goans sing praises of their beloved MLA's/Ministers who apparently help them with specific favours. Surely, if the system of governance was properly working in the first place, there would be limited need for the MLA?s to assist the people at the low micro level and these Politicians should have been instead, involved at the much higher Macro level, of taking the state forward in the right manner for the benefit of Goa Goans. It appears that Goa's Politicians are hugely favored and possibly support a highly flawed system of governance, with high level of corruption, lethargy incompetence in the Government Departments; as a result of which Goans are forced to approach the MLA?s for ?assistance ?and then be forever enslaved to the respective Politician. Then as a source of ?gratitude?, these people allow corrupt Politicians to continue further with the Sale/Destruction of Goa Environment Identity; which is exactly what the corrupt MLAs/Minister?s want!! Goans appear to be proud of their high literacy/awareness, which is understood to be important for successful democratic governance. But with such ignorance, I would argue if this High Literacy rate has actually improved the state of affairs in Goa or is it just an un-necessary Statistic!!
Re: [Goanet] KEEP POLITICIANS AWAY FROM SPORTS
With due respect, FN .I am neither playing Leader of the Opposition nor in agreement with you. Rules and Systems have to put into place and then followed. If one of the rules or systems has to be changed, it has to be changed - but without discrimination based on religion, sex, gender, profession etc ..unless the profession ipso facto precludes the individual from holding a post. The method of solving a problem is by attacking the problem - NOT by throwing the baby out with the bath-water. Aires has done the right thing with the RTI and the GCA. Similarly, anything which claims its existence to statute can be challenged quickly (quite quickly) by way of Judicial Review. The questions FN asks are very valid. I submit that there is NO special need or benefit in having politicians heading sports organisations. If there has been or is such a benefit, then the sports organisation will pay the price. There is a way out . either do NOT involve politicians OR (if there is an avenue) get their decisions judicially reviewed.. But do not come up with rules which are discriminatory. What may I ask will happen to (say) Sachin Tendulkar IF he contests and wins a Parliamentary seat. Should he be precluded / prohibited from holding a position on the BCCI Board? Nonsense is all I will say to FN's nonsense. jc. On 16 October 2010 12:30, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: With due respect, JC is simply playing the role of Leader of the Opposition here. This time, I agree with Aires Rodrigues, and feel he has correctly diagnosed the problems caused by politicians who come to the helm of sports bodies across India (and probably elsewhere too). The case of chess in Goa typical. When nobody noticed it, Goa was producing world champions. Once the politicians and moneybags noticed this trend, intense politicking and battles for control began. But what is the way out? Who will ban the politicians from sports, as Aires suggests? Will the politicians suddenly wake up one day, realise the damage they are causing, and legislate to remove themselves out from the sporting arena? I think the questions one needs to raise are: * Why do sportsmen allow politicians to infiltrate their arena? * What are the structural flaws (being starved of funds, too many seeking too little funding, nepotism and favouritism?) that encourage (in fact, make it essential for) politicians to enter sporting organisations? * Do we have any models where sports has succeeded without politicians? If not, why not? * Can we have a rogues gallery, pointing to particular politicians who have ruined particular sports maybe starting with a small state like Goa? Just a thought. Needless to say, I claim no expertise in this field, and unlike others like Augusto Pinto or Shrikant Barve, have not been a sports organiser in real (or imaginary) life. FN Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490 On 17 October 2010 00:42, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: Just a question to the learned advocate: Would it be constitutional? and How about Lawyers should they be banned from GoaNet, the Media etc? Does anybody believe that the Goa politicians are any less crooked than the Goa lawyers/ jc On 15 October 2010 20:01, Aires Rodrigues airesrodrigu...@gmail.com wrote: There should be a total ban on politicians holding posts in sports organisations.
[Goanet] Talking Photos: ITM (International Travel Mart)
Talking Photos: ITM (International Travel Mart) Campal Goa 14th – 17th Oct 2010 ITM http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5087647126/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5087049579/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5087647522/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5087647960/sizes/l/ Inside: Goa Chitra http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5087051529/sizes/l/ Hyatt http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5087052385/sizes/l/ effects of rain storm http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk31/5087051973/sizes/l/ Also, trying to make a small video joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
