[Goanet] Fw: Re:
- Forwarded message - From: Cedric D'almeida To: Frederick Noronha Sent: Sunday, 2 August 2020, 17:43:10 BSTSubject: Re: Re: Hello FredrickThis is a article about diabetes that would benefit your readers.Cheers On Sunday, 2 August 2020, 13:42:23 BST, Frederick Noronha wrote: Please could you post a link in plain text to goanet@goanet.orgGive a description too plsFN On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 18:11, Frederick Noronha wrote: What's this? On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 17:58, Cedric D'almeida wrote: Journalists news from the Asian Image | | | | | | | | | | | Journalists news from the Asian Image Journalists news from the Asian Image | | | -- FN* फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا +91-9822122436 AUDIO: https://archive.org/details/goa1556 TEXT: http://bit.ly/2SBx41G PIX: http://bit.ly/2Rs1xhlCan't get through on mobile? Please SMS/WhatsApp -- FN* फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا +91-9822122436 AUDIO: https://archive.org/details/goa1556 TEXT: http://bit.ly/2SBx41G PIX: http://bit.ly/2Rs1xhlCan't get through on mobile? Please SMS/WhatsApp
[Goanet] FW: Re: Fw: World -Count up to World Goa Day 2015 (2)
Message Received: Jul 11 2015, 04:26 PM From: "Gabe Menezes" To: "Melvyn Fernandes" Cc: Subject: Re: Fw: World -Count up to World Goa Day 2015 (2) Please re-post this on Goanet. G On 21 June 2015 at 13:51, Joseph Rebello wrote: Message Received: Jun 21 2015, 12:09 PM Courtesy of/from: "Melvyn Fernandes" To: "goanet" Cc: "melvynfernandes" Subject: Wrld -Count up to World Goa Day 2015 (2) Hi all Following up from Goanet June 17 vol 10 issue 342 (7). Our language was lost abroad when our skilled and educated ancestors who learnt to read and write in English travelled with Portuguese and Indian travel documents from the house of Mother Goa to Africa mainly to oil the British Administrative Colonial machinery, Their off spring were brought up learning and speaking the Queens English as our elders felt this would bring about better employment prospects rather than amche bas (mother tongue). Even today somebody else is always considered better by our sorpotelised society, its in the Goan DNA. I have to ask that Sorpotel, a peasant dish of Portugal, is our King Dish, what does this make us? Whatever your academic background your DNA is still the same and a large percentage of our people are still employees looking for work rather than employers providing work. World Goa Day is an opportunity on one day out of 365 for organisers and individuals families and friends to attempt speaking our language and practice our culture and heritage not forgetting our amazing cuisine and dances. This is not difficult if you have an idea in the morning and can get it up and running by the evening. The real world has leaders and followers. However in our case our leaders are up against fizzlers a bit like the Tanti (egg)and Choriz (Goa Sausage) situation. Let me explain, to make a Portuguese omelette one would get gaunti (local) eggs from the Tiantia Pai, bell pepers, tomato and onions from the Verdur Kann and for added zing Chorizo from the choriscars. The hen lays the egg and lives another dis (day) to resupply ,The Verdur Kann who supplied the tomato, onions and bell peppers also moves on but the Dukor(PIG) has to die and give its life away for that added Zing to satisfy the tastebuds of our people. Our sincere volunteers in committee work around the world striving for the betterment of our society may sometimes feel like the Dukor. Decisions, decisions. when the Idea of World Goa Day was proposed around 1992 (twenty three years ago) in Lisbon by the Late Jorge and Livia De Abreu and seconded by a lady in California it took ten years of toil by Rene Baretto to his credit working alone and spreading the word to have the first World Goa Day event recorded in August 2000. Are we only good for dancing? Dates are important, this year 2015 and it is 15 years since the millennium of this century and 23 years since the idea of World Goa Day was conceived. As I did not make the “Who Died” list on 29 October 2012, can I ask our people with acumen to fast forward and stamp out the fizzlers like cockroaches under our feet to enable our community that is dying from inside out to sizzle and breathe freely as a community once again. Start with World Goa Day August 2015. The Twenty Fifth Anniversary is round the corner. Fizzlers can be spotted sometimes power dressed as volunteers and appear to be nicey nicey people at various entry gates collecting money especially where Revenue and Expenditure is unregulated and the income extracted from patrons goes to self-enrichment on untaxed income in the name of Charity as long the eh “who cares” I’m too busy with better things to do rather than doing things better attitude amongst the majority of our people continues, feeding the greed and lust for money will be of no benefit to any organisation or charity as the pot is always empty, as good as throwing money like water into a bucket full of holes.Click the link, turn up the volume and enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElLpKewnxp4 Melvyn FernandesThornton Heath, Surrey, United Kingdom21 June 2015 =What does it feel like making a Pig of yourselfie click on link 2C 1:14PIGS SNORTING GRUNTING SNIFFLING SNUFFLING PIG SNOUTyoutube.com
[Goanet] Fw: Re- sending Composers. N0. 15 in this series Antonio Vivaldi
Subject: Re- sending Composers. N0. 15 in this series Antonio Vivaldi http://www.biography.com/people/antonio-vivaldi-9519560#awesm=~oGoqRU5zT2x2Gd --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[Goanet] Fw: re : Possibly you could help locate relatives of a couple of ex-students of St. Joseph`s/ Forodhani Sec. School.
- Original Message - From: jl...@rogers.com To: goans_tanzan...@yahoogroups.com CC: dias_an...@hotmail.com Subject: re : Possibly you could help locate relatives of a couple of ex-students of St. Joseph`s/ Forodhani Sec. School. Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 14:49:42 -0500 Folks, A former student of mine is seeking information about the whereabouts of relatives of 2 deceased classmates of the Class of1971. 1. Feliciana Candida Fernandes who passed away on 28 November 1996. 2.Francis Fernandes By 1968 St. Joseph`s Sec. School ( Dar ) had been re-named Forodhani Sec. School and the abovementioned were students there. If you have any information about relatives of the 2 students..you could help by contacting Anita Dias (dias_an...@hotmail.com). Thank you!
Re: [Goanet] Fw: re-st marys ssc derecognition-ACTION PLAN-v shall overcome..
Congratulations to Steven Dsouza, The Director of Education has stayed the order of Deputy Director so the school can reopen on 15th June. First battle is won .. but the war still rages.. Keep it up Steven.. John
Re: [Goanet] Fw: re-st marys ssc derecognition-ACTION PLAN-v shall overcome..
Dearest Steven, As a Jesuit product : Parishi - St Peter's Church, School - St Stanislaus H School, College - St Xavier's College, Business School - Xavier Institute of Management & NGO - Snehasadan you have our support. Linus D'Lima cc : Adv Loy DSouza, Convenor - Christian Legal Association : you need to take up the cause of your Alma Mater through your network.
Re: [Goanet] Fw: re-st marys ssc derecognition-ACTION PLAN-v shall overcome..
Dear Steven We were equally upset that a Jesuit Catholic institution has been meted out such cavalier treatment. I can imagine the pain and anguish felt by those who I have studied in St. Mary's High School, Mazagaon. I studied at St Xavier's College, Mumbai and have fond memories of my alma mater and the Jesuit system of education. It is sad that political considerations overrule sane thinking. You certainly have my support in your struggle against authoritarianism. Warm wishes Rudy Pinto http://aerophilatelist.blogspot.com/
[Goanet] Fw: re-st marys ssc derecognition-ACTION PLAN-v shall overcome..
On Mon, 30 May 2011 17:41:05 +0530 "steven lawrence dsouza" wrote Dear fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, it is with great sorrow and personal grief that i came to know that my ALMA MATER ST MARY'S SSC HAS been served derecognition notice by the state edcn dept. last week. we were the lesser cousins, compared to the more elite ISC section, and many of us, including the likes of chief justice of india justice kapadia who had humble beginnings –he started as a clerk in gagrat and co and now chief justice inherited our tenacity and ability to cope with adversity from our school days itself. Even I cherish my tough days at my alma mater, wherein I worked thru school giving tuitions to neighbourhood fellow classmates, due to loss of my father’s job, and yet managed to clear finally the toughest exams in the country-the upsc-ias- standing 2nd in Maharashtra in 1985, probably now in voluntary retirement, I have come out of my temporary shell.for the past few days, I along with so many others have rushed in to express our support for our alma –mater. Fr. Frazer mascarenhas , principal St.Xaviers College is co-ordinating an action plan alongwith fr. Baptist pinto on behalf of the JESUIST fathers running the school. Alongwith all stakeholders, yesterday after detailed discussions, the parents , teachers and students were appraised of the same. Within next few days, the school mgt. will be filing a writ petition in Bombay high court against the deputy director order, when court reopens on june 6th or thereabouts. We are also filing appeal with the director edcn within prescribed 30 days. Classes will be on schedule. We have approached theoffice of cm, edcn minister, secretary edcn etc for interim stay for next 2 years, so that classes can go on till matter finally resolved. Yesterday fr. Frazer and fr. Baptist assured the parents in open meeting that classes will go on, till we obtain stay and pending appeal, in any case, classes have to go on till govt makes arrangements for students and teachers in alternative neighbourhood schools, as I was given to understand by my ex bureaucratic colleagues.on Wednesday the alumni and ex students will meet to discuss ways and means to express support. We have the support of the community, and organizations like the bcs, csf, vice chairman state minority commsn. In fact I was to prepare filing a writ –pil alongwith BCs-I spoke to president Gordon dsouza who promised full support, but we kept it on stand by since fr.frazer said that writ filing process already in advanced stage, and no duplication. WITHIN THE NEXT FEWDAYS, AFTER THE APPEAL IS FILED, AND AFTER WRIT PETITION IS FILED, WE EXPECT INTERIM STAY IN MATTER, AS PER PREVIOUS COURT PRECEDENTS AND AS PER DISCUSSIONS WITH SENIOR POLITICIANS, ADMN, PENDING FINAL RESOLUTION WHICH GOD ABIDING WE EXPECT IN OUR FAVOUR. I AM INTERACTING WITH FR. BAPTIST PINTO ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, AND AS A HUMBLE EX-STUDENT WHO HAS NOSTALGIC MEMORIES OF HIS SCHOOL DAYS, STAND BY MY COMMITMENT OF FULL AND UNCONDITIONAL SUPPORT ON A 24X7 BASIS. YES.THIS TOO SHALL PASS---INDEED AS WE WOULD SING THEN IN UNISON---WE SHALL OVERCOMEgod bless -STEVE.
[Goanet] Fw: Re: Public Hospitals in Goa
--- On Fri, 1/4/11, Frederick Noronha wrote: From: Frederick Noronha Subject: Re: Public Hospitals in Goa To: "Gerald Fernandes" Date: Friday, 1 April, 2011, 6:21 PM Thanks Gerald, pls post also to goa...@goanet.org Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490 On 1 April 2011 18:19, Gerald Fernandes wrote: Hi Rico, Indeed the state of Public Hospitals in Goa has improved by leaps and bounds. A decade back Marelyn and me had occassion to take two road accident victims to the GMC at Bambolim.One victim who was unconscious succumbed without being attended to. The other who was a medical doctor, conscious, and an Alumni of GMC was crying out in pain but the Casualty section would not give him a painkiller despite me pointing out that he was a medical doctor who was an Alumni of GMC. They told me to purchase a disposable and pthe prescribed painkiller from an external Pharmacy. When I did it they injected him with it to give him relief. The Medical Doctor survived. After he got well He and his wife somehow traced us out & visited us to express their gratitude. A renowned Sugeon was then holding charge as the Health Minister of Goa. Cut to recent times, I had a road accident at Chopdem in Goa last year and sufferred injuries to my face and arm. On arriving at Asilo Mapusa, I was promptly put in a wheelchair and taken to the Casualty where I was carefully put on a Bed. Two nurses approached me with two injections. One injected me with a painkiller and assured me that the pain would go away in seconds. The other inquired of me whether I had taken Tetanus injection over the past12 months. On being informed in the negative, she injected me with the tetanus toxoid. In the meantime the Doctor cwho was attending to another casualty examined me, ordered X-rays, which were quickly taken and showed to him. He told me that there were no fractures to my face, skull or arm and offerred to admit me for observation for 48 hrs for observation. I thanked her profusely,declined and limped out. They wished me speedy recovery and told me not to hesitate to come to Asilo ,in case I encountered any related medical problems. Gosh, WHAT A SEA-CHANGE. These are factual accounts. YES MEDICAL CARE IN GOA IS DEFINITELY IMPROVING. Lets give credit and encourage the system whenever it delivers so magnificently.. Regards, Gerry. P.S The Asilo Staff did not even ask me my name or my identity.On full recovery I visited Asilo and thanked the concerned Staff.
[Goanet] Fw: Re: John, please help STOP this!
--- On Wed, 23/3/11, John Gomes wrote: From: John Gomes Subject: Re: John, please help STOP this! To: "shubha rao-chikkerur" Date: Wednesday, 23 March, 2011, 1:18 PM Caculos are influential tycoons probably funding the Ministers/government and obviously bribing the officials etc to get all the required permissions and The CM inagurated the Mall! I said in my Letter published in Navhind Times "Mauling Goa". My whole letter was reworded and title "Mauling" changed . Gomantak Times published most of it. It was also on Goanet where I am forwarding your letter also for information. The people affected must act without fear and with determination.I suggest the Residents affected send a legal notice to the Mall,and acordingly bring all these matters to ALL the concerned authorities in writing! Then follow up to its logical conclusion. --- On Tue, 22/3/11, shubha rao-chikkerur wrote: From: shubha rao-chikkerur Subject: John, please help STOP this! To: johnericgo...@yahoo.com Date: Tuesday, 22 March, 2011, 5:35 PM Dear John, I recently returned to Australia after my annual trip to India. While in Goa, I visited the St. Inez area of Panaji. I request everyone visiting ‘Goa’s first Mall’ to take a walk behind the Mall to see something that really appalled me. A huge generator and other equipment has been installed directly in front of the gates of a residential complex. While people are invited to shop in air-conditioned comfort (and the tills of the Caculo Mall ring merrily on), residents living behind the mall are forced to endure the constant noise of the equipment and breathe in the toxic, possibly cancer-causing, fumes being emitted. While the front facade of the mall sparkles, garbage from the mall is strewn at the back, right in front of these residential buildings. With loading and unloading taking place just in front of the building entrance gates the peaceful residential neighbourhood has been turned into a dirty fairground area. Residents (and patients at the nearby hospital) often have to endure loud, blaring music till the mall shuts down at 9:00pm. There are daily traffic jams caused by insufficient parking and the road to the hospital is often blocked, making it usafe for pedestrians, elderly residents and young children. Yet work is now on to expand the mall even further. Is this a deliberate move to dislodge the residents and the hospital and take over this prime space? How can gross violations like this be tolerated, more so in Panaji’s beautiful heritage city? regards, Shubha
[Goanet] FW: Re: Supreme Court 'ORDER' to free COMUNIDADE LANDS from Private and Commercial Use - A Press Statement for kind favour of Publication.
GOA SU-RAJ PARTY (Goa Good Governance Party) Reg. H.O.: 383A, Pirazona, Moira, Bardez-Goa-403 507 Phone: (0832) 2470223 City Office: 2nd. Floor, Karekar Bldg., Aldona Taxi Stand, Angod-Mapusa-403 507 Phone: (0832) 2266111 (M) 9890470896 Website: http://www.goasu-raj.org Email: C/o floriano.l...@gmail.com Date: 3 February, 2011 To, The Editors, Goa's Newspapers (all) Panjim/Margao/Pilar-Goa. Sir, Sub: Supreme Court 'ORDER' to free COMUNIDADE LANDS from Private and Commercial use - A Press Statement for kind favour of Publication. The Goa Su-Raj Party, while hailing the recent Supreme Court 'Order' declaring transfer of community (COMUNIDADE) land for private and commercial use as illegal, congratulates, in no uncertain terms, the Association of Componentes of Comunidades (ACC) of Goa for this VICTORY. The Goa Su-Raj Party, which primarily had the restoration of the 'autonomy' for the COMUNIDADES of Goa in their functioning on its radar scope as the motive in its formation in the year 2000, feels vindicated in its stand and thanks the Supreme Court bench of Justice Markandey Katju and Justice Gyan Sudha Misra for this coup de grace in declaring that the above 'order' is applicable with retrospective effect. Starting with the illegal Invasion of GOA by India in 1961, and the subsequent conspiracy of the Bandodkar regime since 1963, Goa's age old COMUNIDADES SYSTEM OF community land management was hijacked to favour VOTE BANK politics. The collusion of the 'Centre' with the successive State governments of the Congress Party in Goa to hock the Comunidade lands, especially the agricultural lands, at throw-away prices, as if it was the God sent 'MANNA' from heavens above, has been struck-down by the esteemed Apex Court in the sentence used in the said 'Order' quote The Scheme must provide for speedy eviction - Long duration of such illegal occupation or huge expenditure in making constructions thereon or political connections must not be treated as a justification for condoning this illegal act or for regularizing the illegal possession" Unquote This 'Order' will now also pave the way to demolish the Bandodkar regime's 'Tenancy Act' .. having been given the sanctity of 'LAW' by the subsequent first CONGRESS GOVERNMENT lead by Pratapsing Raoji Rane ( the Mergerist CM) to free the agricultural holdings of the COMUNIDADES and revert them back to the lawful OWNERS. Towards the implementation of the above "Order' of the Supreme Court, the Goa Su-Raj Party wants to see the first casualty for the usurpers of the Comunidade land and the victory for the Comunidades in the reverting back to the original status, the land surveyed under PT Sheet No. 163 - Chalta No. 5/4 with an area of 4100 sq. meters, belonging to the COMUNIDADE OF MAPUSA, tenanted to Shri. Govind Rama Naik, illegally transferred to the possession of Shri. Raojee S. Rane and presently under construction at foundation level right next to the Ajay Supermarket at Morod, Mapusa. Thanking you, Yours truly, for Goa Su-Raj Party Sd/- Floriano Lobo General Secretary/Spokesperson
Re: [Goanet] Fw: RE: Goanet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1215 - Respect our Right to Identity
I was sitting in the balcony of my house a year ago, when a Gujarati broker walks up to me and says "Are you selling your house. If so, just name your price." I just insulted him but If I was a man, I tell you, I would have kicked him This is sheer pimping, Man. Yes it is entirely our fault, we have let this happen and now the filth has hit the ceiling. It is not the foreigners who are ruining Goa, it is this flotsam and jetsam from the rest of India. Foreigners (except for the Russians) live in a disciplined environment and most of them who have bought or rented houses do everything to blend their homes in the local topography. Why are such tall structures allowed to mushroom everywhere without proper infrastructure like water, garbage clearance etc. Who is responsible for granting these permissions. Why cant all these Rajasthanis selling their cheap wares sell them in their own state. Why are there so many north Easterners in Goa. What business are they doing. Under the guise of Massage parlours, nefarious activities are going on. When I visited Kripa sometime back (Kripa is a huge NGO working among people afflicted with chemical dependence and HIV), I was shocked to see that the highest concentration of their centres in India is in the North east. I was told that alcoholism, drugs and HIV was rampant in these areas. And these people are running amuck in Goa. Why are there no strict rules against all these activities, penalties for indiscriminate garbage dumping, drugs, drinking and driving, smoking in public places. If there are strictures imposed all these riff raffs will run away. Mumbai might be filthy also, but there are strict rules against certain things Also Why are the newspapers (as you rightly mentioned Soter about the Herald), local estate agents advertising houses and flats and showing them to these people. Calangute Candolim Baga belt is already a tragedy . For Goans like me who played on these beaches as children with only the sand, the sea, the wind whipping at our faces and a few Tea and bhujjia shops for company, this mess is a veritable and painful eyesore. However, what is done is done,but we have to save this state from further peril. How is the burning question. Bernice --- On Mon, 8/11/10, soter wrote: From: soter Subject: Fw: RE:[Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1215 - Respect our Right to Identity To: bernicepere...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, 8 November, 2010, 10:45 PM - Original Message - From: soter To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:44 PM Subject: RE:[Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1215 - Respect our Right to Identity Bernice, The reason why the riff - raff of India just march into Goa is that they can continue their nuisance without any hindrance from the locals who have become easily purchasable commodities. In fact migrants will literally throw you a challenge that they can get anything done in Goa. I just feel amused that our markets are entirely controlled by guys who do not know a word of konkani. Besides Mumbai, I have not seen this phenomena anywhere else in the country. Recently a friend of mine, an the IAS retired, was asking my opinion on buying property in Goa. I just ignored her. She got the message. Forget our politicians, our goans are for sale. Wasn't the former GBA convenor classifying a Delhiite as a goan? -Soter _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
[Goanet] Fw: Re: Goanet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 795 (Nudism..Dr Kamat)
Dear John Gomes, Re: "Who deleted most of my submission?Re submitting" John Gomes Your post appeared as it on Goanet. It appeared in full. NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. It was I--Venantius who in my response deleted what was not essential to what I wanted to say. did. Basically I was looking at a particular strand in your statement to make a point--I believe would be of interest, ie., regarding tactics and their apparent origination, as well as the felicity of an/any/those actions. So again, rest assured that your post appeared in full on Goanet! In a response, many of us do not deal with the entire text. I in particular, only see certain areas and make associations that the existing text may not allow one to do so. I also did not need to have the Shiv Sena in what I wanted to say. The last part--"forcibly emptying milk tankers on the road as protest with impunity!??: allowed me that tangent to make a specific extrapolated analogy of relevance with Bove and onwards, as you will see below. This furthermore does not mean what you said is of no consequence. Others may deal with it in its totality. I hope someone does. Here below to reiterate what I said earlier vis-a-vis the part of your text: "forcibly emptying milk tankers on the road as protest with impunity!?? Perhaps various political party strategy planners, are more than aware of the splendid protest tactics of Jose Bove's, and others. But those tactics have deeper reverberations 'neath them. Not sure, as in in the European cases, whether in India it was the farmers themselves dumping their milk, thereby making a choice to be affected directly in the process of doing so(making a political statement), instead of the milk of many small dairy farmers (or some big ones) being spilled against their will (basically no choice) for someone else' strategy/agenda. venantius j pinto ++ > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:20:45 -0700 (PDT) > From: John Gomes > To: Goanet Org > Subject: [Goanet] Fw: Re: Goanet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 795 (Nudism..Dr > Kamat) > > Who deleted most of my submission?Re submitting > > --- On Fri, 30/7/10, John Gomes wrote: > > > From: John Gomes > Subject: Re: Goanet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 795 (Nudism..Dr Kamat) > To: goanet@lists.goanet.org > Date: Friday, 30 July, 2010, 1:30 PM > > Reference XCHR incidence? > > --- On Thu, 29/7/10, goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org > goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org > ? > Dangerous trends with most minority community people?keeping quiet, being > scared?with goonda tactics of self proclaimed religious groups enforcing > their writ. A stupid and callous?government playing dirty politics .Our > police is being futilely?chastised in the monsoon session in progress by the > Opposition. Also on the national stage, Indian policing?by the few courageous > policemen and also outspoken knowledgeable ones like Kiran Bedi and Julio > Rebeiro. Dr Kamat is absolutely ?right?about Porvorim, regarding what is > really going on! Must be nipped in the bud before it assumes frightening > proportions.Anything more idiotic than Shiv Sena in Mumbai, able to do > whatever it wants and emptying milk tankers on the road as protest with > impunity!?? > * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Fw: Re: Goanet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 795 (Nudism..Dr Kamat)
Who deleted most of my submission?Re submitting --- On Fri, 30/7/10, John Gomes wrote: From: John Gomes Subject: Re: Goanet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 795 (Nudism..Dr Kamat) To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Friday, 30 July, 2010, 1:30 PM Reference XCHR incidence --- On Thu, 29/7/10, goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org Dangerous trends with most minority community people keeping quiet, being scared with goonda tactics of self proclaimed religious groups enforcing their writ. A stupid and callous government playing dirty politics .Our police is being futilely chastised in the monsoon session in progress by the Opposition. Also on the national stage, Indian policing by the few courageous policemen and also outspoken knowledgeable ones like Kiran Bedi and Julio Rebeiro. Dr Kamat is absolutely right about Porvorim, regarding what is really going on! Must be nipped in the bud before it assumes frightening proportions.Anything more idiotic than Shiv Sena in Mumbai, able to do whatever it wants and emptying milk tankers on the road as protest with impunity! * * * Encounter hints (and more) of the Goan life in Zanzibar, Poona, Mombasa, Basra, Dubai, and even Nuvem and Colva, Sanvordem and colonial Goa. Learn of experiences that shaped Goans worldwide. Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* now available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Ask a friend to buy it, before it gets sold out. Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
[Goanet] Fw: Re: Goa urbanization
FN -Mumbai is a city in Mahrashtra. -Goa is a State. -Argument sake only yes perhaps Mumbai' s Maharastrian Identity might be affected but not Maharashtrian Identity in BIG Maharashtria. Is this the same for the state of GOA? -Decide wht u want to compare i.e. City with State or State with State; and we can take it from there. Arwin Message: 10 Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 22:14:40 +0530 From: "soter" To: Subject: [Goanet] Fw: Re: Goa urbanization Message-ID: <000801cb1ebc$e29176e0$1901a...@user77948b9580> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Frederick wrote: The same principle will be used, I hope, when it comes to Mumbai-for-Mumbaikars or pro-Africanisation arguments. It cannot be one standard for me, and another standard for someone else. FN -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. "Rape of Goa" : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html 5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/ 6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim 7. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686 8. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
[Goanet] Fw: Re: Goa urbanization
Frederick wrote: The same principle will be used, I hope, when it comes to Mumbai-for-Mumbaikars or pro-Africanisation arguments. It cannot be one standard for me, and another standard for someone else. FN Comments: Frederick seems to be battling a crisis of elementary logic. Comparing Bombay to Goa of everything? I am yet to hear that Goans who migrated to Mumbai were conciously involved in converting Mumbai into a mini Goa by controlling the politics and imposing their culture and language. Could the most learned social entrepreneur Frederick cite me some authentic information on this negative influence of Goans in Mumbai? Again talking about pro-Africanisation, has Frederick any authentic information that Goans were the cause for so much of asian hatred in Africa? Have Goans been the cause of asian hatred anywhere in the world? Do Goans abroad continue to speak among themselves in marathi, gujarati, tamil and malyalam irrrespective of whose comapny they are in? What is Frederick's information on the weekend operations of some migrant communities in Goa? Please get your facts before you take the defence of migrants. -Soter
Re: [Goanet] Fw: Re: Goa urbanization
On 8 July 2010 13:28, soter wrote: > > comment: > This should have happened many many years ago. The faster Goa gets negative > publicity the better will it be for its survival. Negative publicity for Goa > could be taken as sustainable development. Goa has been exploited > sufficiently and outsiders know there is nothing left for them. They will > now move to virgin lands and have to give some excuse. This is a strange argument -- let's spoil Goa's name so that the "bhailo" is not attracted to it. Let's quickly shed all our positive attributes so that others find us distasteful (and don't come to settle here). This, to me, would be cutting the nose to spite the face! > Locals are getting hostile, something natural. It is happening in Manipur, > Assam, Jharkhand and several other States. Thetre is a limit to hospitality, > it cannot be taken as a license to colonise. It has already started in > Australia. . Put it on arrogant goans. The 'bhailo' has always been spurned > off but several of them have in time gained acceptability and have > adjusted. Those who have tried to impose their views and culture continue to > get kicked. The same principle will be used, I hope, when it comes to Mumbai-for-Mumbaikars or pro-Africanisation arguments. It cannot be one standard for me, and another standard for someone else. FN
Re: [Goanet] Fw: Re: Goa urbanization
The following letter is from a well-known photography expert and an office colleague of mine. He was a great Goa lover and had close relatives in Margao. His recent vists have sparked off such a dislike for it, as is expressed in the following letter: --- Tue, 6/7/10, kishore jothady wrote: I have severed all emotional ties with Goa. Believe me, it was not easy. But bitter memories of my last visit have compelled me to do it. Uncouth, arrogant Goans, 'hate outside tourists' attitude have put me off. Mention of Goa no more kindle fond memories as before. Recent press reports of corrupt, shameless rapist politicos have only affirmed by opinion about my birthplace. Sad. K. B. Jothady APSI comment: This should have happened many many years ago. The faster Goa gets negative publicity the better will it be for its survival. Negative publicity for Goa could be taken as sustainable development. Goa has been exploited sufficiently and outsiders know there is nothing left for them. They will now move to virgin lands and have to give some excuse. Locals are getting hostile, something natural. It is happening in Manipur, Assam, Jharkhand and several other States. Thetre is a limit to hospitality, it cannot be taken as a license to colonise. It has already started in Australia. . Put it on arrogant goans. The 'bhailo' has always been spurned off but several of them have in time gained acceptability and have adjusted. Those who have tried to impose their views and culture continue to get kicked. -Soter
[Goanet] Fw: Re: Goa urbanization
The following letter is from a well-known photography expert and an office colleague of mine. He was a great Goa lover and had close relatives in Margao. His recent vists have sparked off such a dislike for it, as is expressed in the following letter: --- Tue, 6/7/10, kishore jothady wrote: I have severed all emotional ties with Goa. Believe me, it was not easy. But bitter memories of my last visit have compelled me to do it. Uncouth, arrogant Goans, 'hate outside tourists' attitude have put me off. Mention of Goa no more kindle fond memories as before. Recent press reports of corrupt, shameless rapist politicos have only affirmed by opinion about my birthplace. Sad. K. B. Jothady APSI
Re: [Goanet] Fw: Re: Goa in Huffington post
Nunes? responds: Your naivete and provincialism?and narrow mindedness are shockingly amazing for 2010!!. ? Perhaps a reason why NRGs justifiably think people like you are bozos who have been remiss in their care taking of Goa. ? You are only as inferior as you let yourself be. In your case? there is no lower limit?of abasement and abuse you will?not take. You have no inkling of self-worth. ? Unlike?you, I have the honour and integrity?and PRIDE of my ancestors to?uphold and not?shame our name?by?bowing ?and scraping ?as you do - to the white ?foreigners? (interloppers) in?your own land. Your brown nose must be sore. + Response: Stop waffling. Assuming for the sake of argument that all that you allege in (as your Guru - M. Goveia would say, a "vicious personal attack") is true, let me inform you that I have the PRIDE and pleasure of living in Goa which is a State of India where there is freedom of Speech, freedom of attitudes and all kinds of freedoms that you in your foren land will never get. Whether or not I let my self be superior or inferior is a personal choice and my self worth is my personal concern and none of yours. NRGs may think what they want, but the first place they want to run to when they are booted out is Goa. As RGs, we can only stay put. Heh, heh, heh If you have the PRIDE of your ancestors (may they rest in peace) why did you allude to my caste in a personal mail when all the contact that I have with you is through this forum and I don't know you from Adams, not that I would want to, and when caste is an anachronism in this day and age? Get your thought processes correct. Where are the foreigners that I bow and scrape to? Have you seen me or for that matter thousands of my fellow RGs do the same? If you have to vent your spleen, vent it on the right person. As we in Goa would say in Konkani - Khjuta eke kodden ani khorpita dusre kodde PS if you have to reply to this post, please do so in the appropriate forum and don't clutter my personal inbox with your spam else I will use gmail's filter to automatically send it back to you -- \\\ Tony de Sa tonyd...@gmail.com M : +91 9975 162 897 Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
Re: [Goanet] Fw: Re: Goa in Huffington post
--- On Fri, 2/5/10, Tony de Sa wrote: >>And don't tell me that you've never ever not bowed to the white sahib>>. Nunes responds: Your naivete and provincialism and narrow mindedness are shockingly amazing for 2010!!. Perhaps a reason why NRGs justifiably think people like you are bozos who have been remiss in their care taking of Goa. You are only as inferior as you let yourself be. In your case there is no lower limit of abasement and abuse you will not take. You have no inkling of self-worth. Unlike you, I have the honour and integrity and PRIDE of my ancestors to uphold and not shame our name by bowing and scraping as you do - to the white foreigners (interloppers) in your own land. Your brown nose must be sore. ** On Fri, 2/5/10, Tony de Sa wrote: Nunes (Mr?/ Ms?) What utter crapola! You don't seem to have the faintest idea of what is going on. We RGs are not repeat not anti NRG. That is a myth created by Goebbels. We are against people with quote limited or little interest in Goa unquote because they are second class Americans first and who can only gas about going to dogs on Goanet and use Arwin, Rajan, Carmen etc as a crutch to cover their own impotence. Or like a stuck record more likely. As far as bending over for white foreigners, aren't you doing the same out there in which ever white boondocks you are in? Haven't you gone out of your way to get your green card or what ever? And don't tell me that you've never ever not bowed to the white sahib. -- \\\ Tony de Sa tonyd...@gmail.com M : +91 9975 162 897 Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
Re: [Goanet] Fw: Re: Goa in Huffington post
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 10:25:29 +0530 From: Tony de Sa What utter crapola! You don't seem to have the faintest idea of what is going on. We RGs are not repeat not anti NRG. Mario responds: First we saw a furious attack on "foren" NRGs and claims that "we and only we" - referring to RGs - can save Goa. The we saw the claims that John Lobo had rehabilitated one company's mines in Goa. Then we saw the claims that the mess in Goa is imaginary. Now we see some furious tap dancing and carbon copy imitations of the legendary Pinocchio. The man can run but he can't hide because the evidence is there for all to see in the Goanet archives. Tony wrote: And don't tell me that you've never ever not bowed to the white sahib. Mario observes: Tony cannot believe that everyone is not like him during the Portuguese days. That is sadly his only frame of reference. I wonder if the great chest-thumper and Salvador do Goa and defender of Goa against all those "foren" NRGs who are stealing his limelight, has made the trip from Moira to Carmona yet.
Re: [Goanet] Fw: Re: Goa in Huffington post
I Nunes> Mr Goveia. It is called appeasement, sitting-on-the-fence, gutless even. NO stand on any issue.? BUT ?ding Mr Parrikar.? And needlessly. Mr Noronha feels safety in numbers (1-2 RGs with anti NRG sentiment) and a Herald platform - The same newspaper with questionable journalistic ethics - to express his milkey? toast views. ? Note: The RGs spouting anti-NRG vitriol are the same bending over for white foreigners and tourists? residing? (Yikes how did that happen?) in Goa saying : How far down Sah? ? Remember? Paul Tsongas'? campaign on not being a Pand(er?)?bear to special interests? I. Nunes = Nunes (Mr?/ Ms?) What utter crapola! You don't seem to have the faintest idea of what is going on. We RGs are not repeat not anti NRG. That is a myth created by Goebbels. We are against people with quote limited or little interest in Goa unquote because they are second class Americans first and who can only gas about going to dogs on Goanet and use Arwin, Rajan, Carmen etc as a crutch to cover their own impotence. Or like a stuck record more likely. As far as bending over for white foreigners, aren't you doing the same out there in which ever white boondocks you are in? Haven't you gone out of your way to get your green card or what ever? And don't tell me that you've never ever not bowed to the white sahib. -- \\\ Tony de Sa tonyd...@gmail.com M : +91 9975 162 897 Ph. : +91 832 2470 148 ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
[Goanet] Fw: Re: Goa in Huffington post
--- On Thu, 2/4/10, lyrawmn wrote: From: lyrawmn Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa in Huffington post To: " estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list" Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 5:58 PM Mr Goveia. It is called appeasement, sitting-on-the-fence, gutless even. NO stand on any issue. BUT ding Mr Parrikar. And needlessly. Mr Noronha feels safety in numbers (1-2 RGs with anti NRG sentiment) and a Herald platform - The same newspaper with questionable journalistic ethics - to express his milkey toast views. Note: The RGs spouting anti-NRG vitriol are the same bending over for white foreigners and tourists residing (Yikes how did that happen?) in Goa saying : How far down Sah? Remember Paul Tsongas' campaign on not being a Pand(er ) bear to special interests? I. Nunes --- On Thu, 2/4/10, Mario Goveia wrote: Had Fred been with us through the recent months he would have known that NRGs like Rajan, Carmen, Arwin, and especially Anil, were just minding their own business and trying to raise interest among RGs to wake up and DO something for Goa to confront the growing mess there. Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:56:21 +0530 From: Frederick Noronha Mario is probably right. The difference is, however, that the average RG doesn't believe he's an expert in everything, and doesn't let out gas in cyberspace at the slightest excuse! He isn't in blame-mode, blaming everyoneone in sight in a random manner because in his perception the problem has suddenly gotten worse. Also, I know many here who are attempting, in some way, to build a solution. The attitude isn't one of thank-god-that-I-got-away-and-I-need-to-convince-myself-it's-a-sinking-ship, as we often encounter in cyberspace. Mario observes: The comments above could only have been conceived by someone who has just returned after an extended trip to another planet. Had Fred been with us through the recent months he would have known that NRGs like Rajan, Carmen, Arwin, and especially Anil, were just minding their own business and trying to raise interest among RGs to wake up and DO something for Goa to confront the growing mess there. I don't remember any of them maligning RGs in any way, shape or form. I distinctly remember Carmen asking to meet with RGs in order to compare notes and formulate strategy. I don't remember Rajan asking for anyone's help in the actual legal actions he has taken at his own expense. Suddenly from out of the weeds we saw a furious attack on all "foren" NRGs by a couple of RGs, for no apparent rhyme or reason, maligning them, their motives and their credentials, especially those with "foren" citizenships. One of them, who has done precious little for Goa while watching with glass of feni in hand as the mess developed, ostentatiously claimed that "we and only we" - referring to RGs - could fix what is wrong with Goa. Oh, really? Where then were "we and only we" since 1987? All this is documented in the archives waiting until Fred has time to catch up with the dialog on Goanet.
[Goanet] Fw: Re-Talibanisation of Colva
- Original Message -
From: "SHRIKANT BARVE"
To: "goanet" ;
Cc: ;
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:18 AM
Subject: Talibanisation of Colva
The attack on the house and other property of a person from Colva accused of
producing a controversial CD is to be condemned. Such means resorted to by so
called followers of Jesus Christ, that too during Christmas, and supposedly
provoked by lay church leaders is all the more deplorable. Are we any beter
than the Bajrang Dal, Ram Sena, Taliban and all such fanatical fringe elements
that suppress freedom of expression through terror. The hurt sentiments are
understandable but will violence acheive any solution? In fact, the attack on
the producer generates more publicity, curiosity and sympathy among the people
which would only boost the sales of the CD. Instead of denying his involvement
in inciting the parishioners as reported in a section of the press, the Parish
Priest should have outrightly condmened such use of violence as it is against
christian teachings.
It is unfortunate that people of Goa have got enough time and energy to quarrel
on issues of religion but hardly anyone reacts over abuses against the human
person, especially woman and children, and the mass scale rape and plunder of
Goa's natural resources.
Will Goans invest their capacities and energies for more productive purposes
in the New Year 2010 in order to establish the kingdom of Justice and Peace in
the world which the message of Christmas is all about?
-Soter D'Souza
Hat's off to you Soter.
Please also note that
Police informed that there was some stone throwing and damage to Mr Gonsalves’
residence and a journalist was also roughed up.
The police have registered a case under Sections 153, 153A, 295A and 298 read
with Section 34 of of the Indian Penal Code has been registered against Mr
Culvert Gonsalves. Also the police have registered a case against the mob under
Sections 147, 148, 427 read with 149 of the Indian Penal Code based on the
complaint filed by the panch’s mother.
Reports also say that the journalist assaulted by the mob has also filed a case
on Tuesday.
http://www.navhindtimes.in/news/goa-news/6796-cops-given-ultimatum-till-dec-31-to-act
This is also an opportunity for Ratra Seva Dal to protest against Church
sponsored Goodaism questioning " potraying a religious person in bad light" is
a crime?
{Earlier, on Monday, the villagers had gathered in large numbers at the Colva
police station and gheraoed the police demanding action on a complaint filed
against panch, Mr Culvert Gonsalves, Mr Ozzy Viegas and the entire production
team of audio CD ‘Dogui Bodmas’ for potraying a religious person in a bad
light. }
kindly publish..!!
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-December/187726.html
Shrikant Vinayak Barve
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[Goanet] Fw: Re: Cancer Decisions - Simoncini's Bicarbonate TreatmentFor Cancer
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From: "Mario Goveia"
From: Ivo da C.Souza
"At the beginning of the 1900s, one person out of 100 died of cancer;
today it is one out of three.
We foresee that within a few years one out of two people will die of
cancer.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 00:12:42 -0400
From: "Bosco D'Mello"
The top 10 causes of death from the World Health Organization:
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs310/en/index.html
Mario responds:
Once again, we see the absolute garbage on cancer that Fr. Ivo has been
posting.
***Mario is come back with his barrage of postings. The text is taken by
me from Dr.Tullio Simoncini's Website. I have already said that it has to
be investigated. The origin of cancer given by him may not be correct.
What is "absolute garbage" in my posting? Does Mario understand it?
We are also seeing a relentless barrage of unscientific and untested
"alternative" medical information from Con Menezes as Santosh has begun
to point out.
***What is wrong if the Website of Dr.Tullio Simoncini is brought to the
knowledge of the readers?
Why are these non-physicians posting information on serious issues like
medicine and medical treatments from sources that promote medical
information that has not been reviewed or tested by any respectable
medical authority, that could lead to serious health problems for anyone
who thinks this information is medically legitimate?
***Any one is free to judge for themselves. Let there be a discussion with
several people from the field. Why "non-physicians" cannot post
information about medicine for discussion?
For example, if anyone out there believes Fr. Ivo's blanket garbage that
cancer is "incurable" and acts accordingly by delaying testing and
treatment, their lives may be put in jeopardy.
***I did not advise such foolishness. Mario is such a fool to
misunderstand my clear statements. Once cancer is detected, it has to be
immediately treated by cancer specialized hospitals. Have I advised
anything different?
I even mentioned surgeons and physicians who would immediately send the
patients to Tata Memorial Hospital, even though they thought that it would
not be cured, totally and permanently ("let the people have the consolation
of having done everything for the patient"...). I have given examples of
those who were declared "cured" after surgery, chemotherapy and radiation by
the
Hospital, but have died within one month... How do I put lives "in
jeopardy"?
Nobody is going to "delay testing", but being asymptomatic it may come to
knowledge at a late stage... Did I say that nothing should be done for
treatment of cancer, though most of the times it will be palliation and
prolongation of life? Is this not a serious necessary attempt? Why is Mario
misunderstanding and belittling the "non-physicians"?
NONE of the "alternative" medical information that Con is posting has
been tested by any credible authority. NO ONE should believe any of this
information without checking with a legitimate physician - some of it may
be harmless, some of it may be harmful for your health. No one really
knows within any probability of effectiveness.
***That is precisely what is being done. It is being tested on thousands
of cancer patients by Dr.Tullio Simoncini. How many "legitimate
physicians"
have tested Dr.Simoncini's new method?
A PRIEST with no medical training cannot be allowed to spread such
falsehoods in a public forum without rebuttal by medical scientists like
Santosh and the other practicing physicians who are members of Goanet,
many of whom are strangely silent.
***Mario does not understand anything. I challenge any physician on this
point. Dr.Santosh is just quoting American statistics.
This is not happening here under our eyes. We do not need any medical
training for this statement. I have spoken to physicians and surgeons, who
do agree with me totally. A Priest without any medical training will be able
to confirm the "fact" of cancer patients with the experience of the people.
With my pastoral concern and medical training I am meeting cancer
patients...who
have taken all medication from cancer hospitals, but are just eager to know
whether they are going to live for some time... I can only advise them: "Be
not afraid. Mario Goveia in America is living (with cancer...) for some
years, so you also will be living in Goa..." Let Mario not accuse me of
spreading "falsehoods in a public forum"...
Regards.
Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] Fw: Re: A friend sent me this query via Facebook. Could you help?
Mirabilis jalapa also known as: four o' clock, marvel-of-Peru, beauty-of-the-night plant. Family: Nyctaginaceae --- On Fri, 8/21/09, lyrawmn wrote: From: lyrawmn Subject: Re: [Goanet] A friend sent me this query via Facebook. Could you help? To: fredericknoro...@gmail.com, goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 8:20 PM FN: As referenced in Navhind Times http://www.navhindtimes.com/story.php?story=2009011852 Shabduli is Mirabilis jalapa I. Nunes --- On Fri, 8/21/09, Frederick "FN" Noronha wrote: From: Frederick "FN" Noronha Subject: [Goanet] A friend sent me this query via Facebook. Could you help? To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 1:11 PM Frederick, I need English word for 'Shabduli', a little flower which blossoms generally in monsoon evenings and wilts by morning. It has mild fragrance and either deep or light pink petals with lightest yellow stem. The plant is no more than 2 feet high. I have not seen it in the last many many years in this conctrete jungle called Goa. Can you help me? -- FN +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 Konkani adages http://konkani-adages.notlong.com/ Medieval Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com/
[Goanet] Fw: Re: Comment about Bom Jesus Basilica among 7 wonders of Portuguese origin
--- On Sat, 6/13/09, eric pinto wrote: From: eric pinto Subject: Re: [Goanet] Comment about Bom Jesus Basilica among 7 wonders of Portuguese origin To: " estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list" Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 5:09 AM My own Sir-Swat ancestors arrived with Persian pullao, to charm afro-mahars into a land swap, fifteen hundred years ago. Cruelty was never in the picture: that Pashtun zaffran lamb worked wonders ! In Swatland, today, the picture is not so pretty for the indo-pak occupiers whose delusions take in Pashtu land from Peshawar to "Azad" Kashmir. eric --- On Sat, 6/13/09, Joe Lobo wrote: Sapna, As a goan who has spent more time outside Goa, I personally feel that this historical quest of yours is an attempt to stir up events that happened a good 400 years ago or so. which will engender communal discord between the Hindu and Christian communities. Sapna Shahani wrote: > As a non-Goan who's lived here on and off for 20 years, I'm very curious > about Goa's history with the Inquisition. > How is it that the gory history of Goa's past remains virtually unknown by > outsiders or tourists? The Basilica of Bom Jesus is a beautiful building but > I find it odd that visitors don't know what cruelties once took place in the > vicinity of the Basilica. > > Would love to hear the thoughts of people on this list... > > Best, > Sapna. > > >
[Goanet] Fw: Re: FW: Sabrina De Souza Denies Being a CIA Agent
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Apparently she is of Goan origin!
The criminal case against both, US agents as well as Italian police, has
since been dismissed. The spectacle was staged, a political reality in today's
Europe. I refuse to believe she was not privy to some behind the scene facts,
and had not been urged to bear with the Agency: she chose to go bare, instead !
There is no precedent for her conduct. When you sign on to work in the
shadow, for profit no less, you stay in the shadows. She does has her rights,
in a civil society, but she took an oath to serve in a cloak and dagger outfit
that goes up against groups that have few such compunctions. She had also
sworne allegiance to her adopted country, earlier, and done so voluntarily.
Will a recruiter remember her,the next time an India resume lands on his
desk !
As an aside, army personnel may not sue the government, under any
circumstances. eric.
[Goanet] FW: Re: Goan Hockey Greats
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[Goanet] Fw: Re: Pre visitors to Goa.
--- On Fri, 12/26/08, Santosh Helekar wrote: > Did people who lived in India and Goa before the > missionaries came not have a > decent face? Did they not have good values? > --- > My answer: Nothing indecent about a sunburn ! Also, we > valued fresh tropical food, fresh toddy, and heavenly urrak 'off > the tap', not some smelly beer. eric.
[Goanet] Fw: Re: Has The Goan "Render" gone into oblivion ?
--- On Wed, 12/17/08, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote Here in Toronto, the senior citizens go around saying, "In the good old days we walked to school in ten inches of snow, almost barefoot, both ways uphill, and we liked it." An Italian immigrant bought me a pair of boots, thirty five years ago. He had delivered fresh milk to homes, for his father, when he was twelve, and did not care for the memories: " India shoes, snow laugh." He chose a 'no tombstones allowed' cemetery, so "deer can eat the grass and my wife's flowers". They do. eric. __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
[Goanet] Fw: Re: Crooks supporting each other
--- On Thu, 23/10/08, frank dcruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: frank dcruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Goanet] Crooks supporting each other > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 12:03 PM > Hi, > having representatives like the pwd minister ( i heard he > was a chief minister for a short period too ), the education > minister ( i heard he does not have a degree to his name) > and a former sports minister ( i think it was someone by > the name of tricky - im sorry ive never been good with > names) does not speak much about us goans as we are the ones > that vote them to power. I was always proud of calling > myself a goan - being tolerant people with a lot of culture > and a susegad attitude but of late i try to avoid it if > possible. > you got to give credit to the police and our so called > people representative for keeping a tiny state like goa in > the international news of late. > Regds. > A once upon a time proud goan > > > --- On Wed, 22/10/08, Anthony Pereira > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Anthony Pereira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [Goanet] Crooks supporting each other > > To: > > Date: Wednesday, 22 October, 2008, 5:17 PM > > Freddy > > > > You are absolutely spot on. Is'nt it ridiculous > that > > the parents are not aware of the whereabouts of their > own > > son? Can anybody believe this? Are'nt they telling > lies. > > How can this family be trusted in any case. All that > the PWD > > Minister and the Power Minister have talked in this > matter > > is total crap. What have these crooks got to do with > this > > case? This is not a case against the Goa Government so > why > > are the crooks getting involved? What right does > Churchill > > have to comment on the character of the minor girl. He > > should examine his own concience and if he is clean > only > > then can he throw stones at others. It's truely > high > > time we give these scumbags the KICK. > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > > The content of this electronic communication is > intended > > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom > it is > > addressed and any others who are specifically > authorized to > > receive it. It may contain confidential or legally > > privileged information. If you are not the intended > > recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > > copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on > the > > contents of this information is prohibited and may be > > unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have > > received this communication in error please notify the > > sender immediately by responding to this email and > then > > delete it from your system. > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: [Goanet] Fw: Re: Portuguese memoirs ...
Hi Roland, Thank you for your comments. That translation is not recent - it was put up on that website about 6 years ago ... Cheers, Gabriel. --- On Tue, 2/9/08, Roland Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Roland Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Goanet] Fw: Re: Portuguese memoirs ... > To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" > Received: Tuesday, 2 September, 2008, 7:31 AM > Hi Gabriel, > > When I saw this article in Portuguese posted on GRN by > Teotonio > D'Souza, my first reaction was "my God, I wish > someone translates > this". > > I could understand barely 25% of the article but I knew it > was a > jewel. I did not ask Teotonio to translate as he usually > says "I don't > have the time". I could only hope someone took it upon > himself to do > it. > > I thank you and much appreciate your trouble. Never have I > read such a > retelling of the account of December 1961 as this from > General of > Police Azaredo, the "enemy". It was well and > simply written, told in > full truth and with no bias towards either side. If I at > all detect > some bias, it is in favor of Goa and Goans. > > What a beautiful historical narrative and what skill in > your > translating it into good English. > I recommend it to all Goanet readers. > > Thanks again, > > Roland. > Toronto. > > > On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Gabriel de Figueiredo > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For an English translation of that article, please > visit > > http://www.goancauses.com/gabriel_figueiredo/ Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset
Re: [Goanet] Fw: Re: Portuguese memoirs ...
Hi Gabriel, When I saw this article in Portuguese posted on GRN by Teotonio D'Souza, my first reaction was "my God, I wish someone translates this". I could understand barely 25% of the article but I knew it was a jewel. I did not ask Teotonio to translate as he usually says "I don't have the time". I could only hope someone took it upon himself to do it. I thank you and much appreciate your trouble. Never have I read such a retelling of the account of December 1961 as this from General of Police Azaredo, the "enemy". It was well and simply written, told in full truth and with no bias towards either side. If I at all detect some bias, it is in favor of Goa and Goans. What a beautiful historical narrative and what skill in your translating it into good English. I recommend it to all Goanet readers. Thanks again, Roland. Toronto. On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Gabriel de Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For an English translation of that article, please visit > http://www.goancauses.com/gabriel_figueiredo/
[Goanet] Fw: Re: Portuguese memoirs ...
For an English translation of that article, please visit http://www.goancauses.com/gabriel_figueiredo/ > --- On Fri, 29/8/08, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रे > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रे > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [Goanet] Portuguese memoirs ... > > To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. > 1994!" > > Received: Friday, 29 August, 2008, 10:22 AM > > Of 1961 in Goa > > http://tinyurl.com/65ht2j > > Thanks to Teo for posting it to Goa-Research-Net. > > FN > > -- > > FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org > > Check out Moira-Net > > http://groups.google.com/group/moira-net > > > Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. > http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset
[Goanet] Fw: RE: Suggestions: Route to UAE - Bombay-Goa sector (a reply from Vijay Mallya)
--- On Tue, 15/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Suggestions: Route to UAE - Bombay-Goa sector > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tuesday, 15 April, 2008, 7:23 PM > Dear Joe, > > Thank you for your email of 9 April 2008, voicing your > request as well as that of the members of your email group, > for a direct Kingfisher Airlines flight from India to the > UAE. > > I am aware that, in the short time since its inception, > Kingfisher Airlines has become synonymous with a > superlative flying experience, and I thank you for your > implied compliments. We are indeed planning to launch our > international operations subject to government regulations, > and look forward to taking the Kingfisher experience to our > overseas guests as well. Your inputs will help us when > planning our international route networks. > > I look forward to the pleasure of welcoming you and other > Goans in the Gulf as my guests on Kingfisher Airlines. > > Cheers ! > Dr. Vijay Mallya, MP > Chairman & CEO > Kingfisher Airlines Ltd. > A UB Group Company > > > > > From: JoeGoaUk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wed 4/9/2008 2:30 PM > To: Chairman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Subject: Suggestions: Route to UAE - Bombay-Goa sector > > > > Dear Sir, > > I have a yahoo group with around 1000 members mostly from > Gulf. > In these days, there was a hot topic on the above subject. > As AirIndia/Indian Airline stopped its operation on the > above sector. > As there is no direct flight for Goans working in UAE, I, > on behalf of all UAE Goans, would like to request you to > consider this matter/route when your popular airline goes > international from say coming August. > > Thanking you, > > Joe (Group owner) ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/
[Goanet] FW: RE: Hi ......Some More Feedback for Manohar Parrikar
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro Manohar, FYI _ Some more feedback - In Salcete, Ilhas and Bardez people will just not vote for BJP - They will all vote for you as candidate of Save Goa Party ! Best Regards, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz Indian Harbour Beach, Florida From: "GJIM- Account User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CARMO DCRUZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Hi .. Hi Dr. Carmo I am really happy to hear from you, we share the same feeling of concern. It is indeed Goons Govt. what we can expect from these uneducated, illiterate idiots other than Casinos and Gambling. Goa need a good educated leader, a visionary, and I don't see other than Manohar Parrikar but he and his former party alleged as communal. I appreciated his daring move to clear the Baina Brothel, It was like a stigma to the Goan Society. Hope to hear from you more Regards Nick Gracias -Original Message- From: CARMO DCRUZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:26 PM To: GJIM- Account User; goanet@goanet.org Subject: What Goa is doing to Woo the Recent Influx of Foreign IT Companies in India ? Hi Nick, Thats a valid question. Goans have one last chance to do something at the polls this May. To vote for Goa's highest qualified Chief Minister Candidate Technocrat and IIT-educated Manohar Parrikar into power before he is summoned to Delhi to be a PM candidate to replace the erudite Dr. Manmohan Singh. Why should foreign companies chose Goa when it is being ruled by GOAN GAON GOON CHORS who are making a GAAN of the place like Father and Son Rane, Mickey Pacheo, Churchill and Joaquim Alemao ? It is now or never for Goa - To have the highest educated technocrat as Chief Minister and reign in the rich foreign IT companies and provide high paying job opportunities for Goans or be relegated to the lower rungs among Indian states as a tourist haven. If the Chief Minister is an IITian, then he understands IT and the needs of the IT industry and foreign IT companies will just flock to the place ! Best Regards, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz ex IIT Kharagpur, now INDIAN Harbour Beach, Florida From: "GJIM- Account User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa IT Parks Following the recent boom in Indian economy, what Goa is doing to woo the recent influx of Foreign IT Companies in India. I could see only certain cities like Bangalore, Chennai, Hydrabad & Bombay are benefited by IT related Relaxation norms and subsequent foreign influx. Why Goa is lagging behind despite having the most educated workforce. If it is the question of creating infrastructure then why the IT parks being built without having the proper infrastructure. I am afraid our IT parks might not remain as a cattle grazing park. Can the Govt. of Goa wakeup before its late (Susegad Govt.). Its possible only if they have time to leave behind the dirty blame game among themselves. Nick Gracias DISCLAIMER: This message is for the named addressees use only. It may contain confidential, privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information that may not be disclosed or used by any one other than the addressee(s) and is intended for the designated individual or entity recipient(s) only. No one else may disclose, distribute or otherwise use the contents of this message. Unauthorized use, disclosure,dissemination, duplication and/or distribution are strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. All personal messages express views solely of the sender, which are not to be attributed to Majid Al Futtaim Group LLC or any of its subsidiaries and/or affiliates, and may not be copied or distributed without this disclaimer. If you received this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and also notify us immediately at +971 (4) 294 or by return e-mail to the sender. Majid Al Futtaim Group LLC and/or any of its subsidiaries and/or affiliates each reserve the right to /monitor all email communications through its networks. This E mail has been Virus scanned and has passed Anti-Spam rules set by Majid Al Futtaim Group LLC rules set by Majid Al Futtaim Group LLC
[Goanet] FW: RE: Parrikar Needs to Use Blogging Approach To Complement Town Hall Meetings
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro To sponsor Goanet operations, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manohar, There appears to be a global Goan swell of support for you. Here is a suggestion from a fellow Velkar and IT expert from Oslo Norway. Francis D'Silva who suggests the blogging approach to complement the face to face town hall meetings with your electorate. As an IITian you need to harness the power of the Internet to win a landslide victory over the Goan Gaon Goon chors in May ! See his suggestion below. Best Regards, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz Indian Harbour Beach, Florida >From: "Francis D'Silva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'CARMO DCRUZ'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Reply from Manohar Parrikar >Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:18:34 +0100 > >Carmo, >Town-halls are indeed a good way to exchange viewpoints. Parrikar may want >to leverage blogs to "persist" these meetings, so that people not >physically >present can have a basis to support/challenge him. > >Blogging is a tough approach but I cannot see any better way to make a >point >and be transparent about it. > >Francis > >-Original Message- >From: CARMO DCRUZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 15. januar 2007 09:01 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; goanet@goanet.org >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Reply from Manohar Parrikar > >Manohar, > >Thanks for your reply. > >Besides Valmiki Faleiro, there are many other Goans who want you back as >the > >most efficient, non-corrupt CM Goa has had, but they too need an >explanation > >of the other side - to clarify their perception about you and Government >you headed - May be you should have a series of "TownHall Type" Meetings in >the church squares/town centers in the various parts of Goa. > >All Goans want the best CM choice to usher in Good Governance in Goa - >despite all the mud-slinging and saffronization/communalism labelling being >carried out by the Goan Gaon Goon Chors ruling Goa today (and their >chumchas) and making a GAAN of the place ! And these Chors want to hold on >to their jobs to loot Goa more in the next few years ! > >Best Regards, > >Dr. Carmo D'Cruz >ex Velim in South Goa >now INDIAN Harbour Beach, Florida. > > >From: Manohar Parrikar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Valmiki Faleiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Reply Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 06:46:34 + (GMT) > > > >Dear Shri Valmiki, > > > > This is with reference to your email dated 9th January, 2007. In this > >regard, I wish to meet you anytime to explain on the other side of your > >perception about me and Government I headed expressed in your email. " > >But as I've always maintained, Parrikar is the right man in the wrong > >party. He belongs to a national party whose policies he along cannot > >change." > > > > Can you send me your phone numbers so that I can speak and fix the >time. > > > > With regards, > > > > Yours sincerely, > > Manohar Parrikar > > Leader of the Opposition Goa > > > >Valmiki Faleiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Carmo, > > > >Thank you. > > > >I've personally known Manohar Parrikar well enough to > >say that the personal attributes you credit him with, are > >largely true. He is a brilliant mind. > > > >But as I've always maintained, Parrikar is the right man > >in the wrong party. He belongs to a national party whose > >policies he alone cannot change. If he quits and floats > >a local outfit, with non-sectarian minded people, the > >course of Goa's politics will change for the better. > > > >Regards, Valmiki > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "CARMO DCRUZ" > >To: ; ; > >Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:50 AM > >Subject: Your Article was an Excellent Summary of Goa's Past and Present > >Predicaments > > > > > > > Hi Valmiki, > > > > > > Your article below was an excellent summary of Goa's past and present > > > predicaments. All Goans have one last chance to get out of this mess >and > > > usher in Good Governance - to back the most highly educated Goan > >politician > > > and an authority on Good Governance IITian Manohar Parrikar to become > >the CM > > > after the upcoming May elections - despite the mud-slinging that has > >been > > > initiated by the Goan Gaon Goon Chors who are making a Gaan of Goa and > >their > > > backers from as far away as Melbourne, Down Under ! > > > > > > If any Goan has any problem with Manohar Parrikar or any of his >policies > > >in > > > the past, they should go and meet him personally, voice their >grievances > > >and > > > clarify any misunderstandings ! Only when we have the best educated, > > > co
[Goanet] FW: RE: Pearls of Wisdom for Parrikar on "Save Goa Party" from Gilbert Lawrence
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro To sponsor Goanet operations, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manohar, FYI Pearls of Wisdom For You from an enlightened Goan Gilbert Lawrence on "Save Goa Party" - see below. He has finally seen the light ! Carmo Gilbert, Coincidently Manohar and I were at the PAN IIT 2006 Conference where Sam Pitroda was a distinguished speaker. May be IITians will return in droves to work for Manohar and attain Goa Dourada (Golden Goa !) Carmo From: Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CARMO DCRUZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Reply Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:51:30 -0800 I think you have some "pearls of wisdom" with a totally independent "Save Goa party". A few successful Diaspora Goans skilled in their own line of work and willing to sacrifice 4-5 years for Goa (with no pay) will give the "Save Goa Party" and Goa a fresh breath of competence and honor in government. Their seriousness of purpose may break the cycle of incompetent local politicians. Something like what Sam Pitorda did in Delhi. Kind Regards, GL CARMO DCRUZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: = Manohar, From the informal polling that I have done so far, in the Velhas Conquistas (esp Salcete, Bardez and Ilhas) you will not win as a BJP candidate - but as an indepedent you will win hands down and as a candidate of the "Save Goa Party" - a new party you may have to float - you will win with a rip-roaring majority ! The Save Goa movement is getting a lot of traction at present - its time to capitalize on its popularity. Blogging is also a communication tool you could use to complement your Town Hall Meetings with the electorate, in order to keep in touch with your electorate 24/7 and keep your finger on the pulse of the place. At PAN IIT 2006, we use Blogging extensively and effectively - ask Ashank Desai for details. Call / Email me any time. In May, you gotta beat all the GOAN GAON GOON CHORS who are making a GAAN of the place ! Best Regards, Carmo >From: Manohar Parrikar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Valmiki Faleiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Reply Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 06:46:34 + (GMT) > >Dear Shri Valmiki, > > This is with reference to your email dated 9th January, 2007. In this >regard, I wish to meet you anytime to explain on the othre side of your >perseption about me and Government I headed expressed in your email. " >But as I've always maintained, Parrikar is the right man in the wrong >party. He belongs to a national party whose policies he along cannot >change." > > Can you send me your phone numbers so that I can speak and fix the time. > > With regards, > > Yours sincerely, > Manohar Parrikar > Leader of the Opposition Goa > >Valmiki Faleiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Carmo, > >Thank you. > >I've personally known Manohar Parrikar well enough to >say that the personal attributes you credit him with, are >largely true. He is a brilliant mind. > >But as I've always maintained, Parrikar is the right man >in the wrong party. He belongs to a national party whose >policies he alone cannot change. If he quits and floats >a local outfit, with non-sectarian minded people, the >course of Goa's politics will change for the better. > >Regards, Valmiki > > >- Original Message - >From: "CARMO DCRUZ" >To: ; ; >Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:50 AM >Subject: Your Article was an Excellent Summary of Goa's Past and Present >Predicaments > > > > Hi Valmiki, > > > > Your article below was an excellent summary of Goa's past and present > > predicaments. All Goans have one last chance to get out of this mess and > > usher in Good Governance - to back the most highly educated Goan >politician > > and an authority on Good Governance IITian Manohar Parrikar to become >the CM > > after the upcoming May elections - despite the mud-slinging that has >been > > initiated by the Goan Gaon Goon Chors who are making a Gaan of Goa and >their > > backers from as far away as Melbourne, Down Under ! > > > > If any Goan has any problem with Manohar Parrikar or any of his policies >in > > the past, they should go and meet him personally, voice their grievances >and > > clarify any misunderstandings ! Only when we have the best educated, > > corruption-free CM in the nation can we be sure to have finally attained >the > > much elusive State of Goa Dourada (Golden Goa) ! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Dr. Carmo D'Cruz > > > >- > HereÂs a new way to find what you're looking for - Yahoo! Answers
Re: [Goanet] FW: Re: Manohar Parrikar for CM, PM !
thanks, that was a nice one and perhaps, at the right time. Believe me or not, I too wanted to write on this.. Yes, there are two main things the Goan Christians worried about.. 1. BJP = Pro-Hindu Party. Change it, form a regional party of your own with clear election manifesto (i.e. treating all Goans same etc) Change it to any name, preferably,with the word 'Goa' in it but not 'BJP Goa' it could be 'new goa party' or SGP (Save Goa Party) etc etc 2. IFFI Lot has been talked about it against you or the BJP for last two years or so. You just don't worry about this any more. People now know about it all. Thanks to the people like JoeGoaUk who showed the world what IFFI is all about. Btw, can anybody forward me Mr. Parrikar's email ID please ? The one which is how at the Goa.Gov. site is not working, all mails come back undelivered. == I forgot to ask him when I visited him on his birthday recently. = Was also surprised to see Churchill Alemao there on his birthday. And wait a minute, let me worn you, just changing the party name and keeping or taking in some existing politicians, will not help at all. However, You may take in Mathany Saldanha (Cortalim MLA), for other pl consult us. === [Goanet] FW: Re: Manohar Parrikar for CM, PM ! CARMO DCRUZ cadcruz at msn.com Mon Dec 25 21:36:25 PST 2006 Hi Manohar, You know that all of us Goan IITians and the Goan intellengentsia want you to win the May elections. You may have many critics who want you to lose, But here is a note (see below) from a concerned Goan IITian Dr. Samir Kelekar who also wants you to win. You really need to listen to all of us - critics and fans as you stage your comeback. Our Great State of Goa will be the real loser if you do not win ! I personally feel you should launch your own party and call it the SAVE GOA PARTY and you will win hands down. Frankly, Congress sounds too much like a "Do Nothing" party to me and as a Christao Goan BJP sounds too much of a "Goan Kokne-chi" party. So many Goan Christaos may feel isolated just because of the name of your party ! So do something about it ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
[Goanet] FW: Re: Manohar Parrikar for CM, PM !
Hi Manohar, You know that all of us Goan IITians and the Goan intellengentsia want you to win the May elections. You may have many critics who want you to lose, But here is a note (see below) from a concerned Goan IITian Dr. Samir Kelekar who also wants you to win. You really need to listen to all of us - critics and fans as you stage your comeback. Our Great State of Goa will be the real loser if you do not win ! I personally feel you should launch your own party and call it the SAVE GOA PARTY and you will win hands down. Frankly, Congress sounds too much like a "Do Nothing" party to me and as a Christao Goan BJP sounds too much of a "Goan Kokne-chi" party. So many Goan Christaos may feel isolated just because of the name of your party ! So do something about it ! As Gerson DaCunha told you yesterday, the Goan Intellengentsia wants you back a CM - but what are you doing about the rest of the electorate who make up the majority ? For example how do the following common-folk benefit by voting for you and how are you communicating wth them ? the render, the poder, the shetkar, the bhatkar, and their mundkars ? the Tarvotti or the Gulfee or the retiree ? the businessman and entrepreneur, and the common hard-working Goan in Goa ? So you should explain to each of these constituencies how they will personally benefit and prosper if they vote for you and your "Save Goa' party. Of course you cannot expect any votes from the chors, smugglers and swindlers in Goa - You have got too much of a Corruption-free, Clean reputation - let them vote for Congress, the Alemaos and Mickey Pacheco ! Also, as I told you yesterday, you are not the only most prominent son of Parra, Goa. You have to share the honour with my friend and hockey Olympian Merwyn Fernandes - May be Merwyn should be your running mate for the Save Goa Party and like fellow India and Indian Airlines hockey player Aslam Sher Khan, he will ensure you a facile victory in the May elections ! Regarding ensuring you the South Goa vote, my cousins Demino D'Cruz of Baga, Velim will get you all the AVC votes and Ashley Fernandes of Cansaulim will get you all the Cansaulim, Velsao, Cuelim votes. We Goan IITians really want you to win - for the Greater Good of our beloved Goa - before the BJP and others consider you to be a PM at the Center after Manmohan Singh ! Time is running out ! Best Regards, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz, Goan, IITian from Velim, Goa. From: Samir Kelekar <> To: CARMO DCRUZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Captivating, Soul-stirring Speech on e-Governance at PAN IIT Global Conference Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 10:15:04 -0800 (PST) Parrikar had a great chance, but messed it up due to his arrogance (he cannot work as a team) and his communal views. Definitely, he is known to be not corrupt and has some great qualities (super brains), but that is not just enough in politics. In politics, one has to take people together with you, and one cannot antagonize people. Also, communalism in a place like Goa is a sure road to defeat. regards, Samir
[Goanet] FW: RE: PONNOS (Pake v/s Agullim)
From: JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Arnold Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: PONNOS (Pake v/s Agullim) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 23:10:39 +0100 (BST) >thanks. >Waghot we say vagullim or agullim and the same name for a type of fish with >long tail >(vagullea sole -dried fish very coomon with Goan para or paro. > >Thanks once again for your words. > > >--- Arnold Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >- > >Joe: > >Thanks for the clarification and the nice lesson on Goa's biology. Your >superb ability to >explain the Goa environment in terms of natural life is pleasing and >valuable. Is there much >of Nature left after all the indiscriminate development without regard for >Ecology these days? >What I hear is alarming and sad. Badly planned industrial growth and >overpopulation are >ruining the natural beauty of Goa I hear. > >In conclusion, I'm assuming that the Waghot is the same as the Agullim. > >Regards > >Arnold > > > > >- > >From: JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Arnold Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, goanet@goanet.org, >goanet@lists.goanet.org >Subject: RE: PONNOS (Pake v/s Agullim) >Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 21:36:24 +0100 (BST) > >Thanks a lot for your lovely feedback. > > > > Yes, you are right. By quoting PAKE I was refering 'agullem ou >agullim' the one seen in > >churches, banana ghello/top, Anteram, Antonam, Anona, Zagma, chickoo, >Peram, Zam etc. > > However, pake also seen eating small fruits like jagma. Once we put a >net (kanttalli) > >around the Jagomi Tree to trap agullinm and next monring we saw not only >trapped agullim but > >two medium size pake and a green bird (kukur) too. > > Such agullim (bats) also seen in caves or bumyar/tunnels as in Raschol >Seminary(Raitura). > > > > However, most prefer saying PAKE when it is actually agullim/bats. > > > >Agullim and Pake only seen during the night as I thing they are blind >during the day as in > >owl. > > > >Pake/Agullim are Mammals (they don't lay eggs like birds) > > ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] FW: RE: Escaped women prisoners
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. From: "Arnold Noronha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Goanet-news] Goanet News Headlines: Sept 18,2006: Margao municipality seeks help for maintaining century-oldbuilding Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 01:21:13 -0400 >Frederick: >It is intriguing to learn that 7 fallen daughters of Eve escaped from a >Goan penitentiary in Merces by removing the roof tiles of their Protective >custody facility. Using verse, I would like to express my amazement at >their initiative and gall to get past the prison guards. I wonder whether >they were eventually caught and returned to their destined premises. > > >Displaying guts and employing rare guile >The redoubtable seven removed roof tiles >In order to get away, then hopefully resile >Jumping beyond the prison walls in a pile >These naughty ones must use their wiles >As they flee the law for many a desperate mile >To get to the badlands beyond the police revile >and have a chance their burdensome chains to file >Their bold actions may seem rash and infantile >But caged inside they abhorred the harsh domicile >Deciding to dash hard for Freedom after a while >The Dreams of Liberty engaging their minds fertile >But alas if caught to the possibility will they reconcile >By the time they ever got out again they'd be senile? > >The Goanet News headlines are interesting. They give a realistic flavour of >what transpires in the Motherland and the daily trends of life on the Goan >scene. From the above news item is one to infer there's a rise in female >criminal activity? Also are the prison systems understaffed? >Keep up the good work. >Cheers >Arnold Noronha ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
