Re: [Goanet] Saving Goa

2010-06-05 Thread floriano

Yes indeed,
The 'need of the hour' is to write 'brilliant' letters to the news papers 
and on the net in the hope that our concerned politicians read them, and to 
fill up the Blogs for personal satisfactions  to show to the world that we 
are doing something about saving Goa, and then promptly go to sleep.

:-)
Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
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www.goasu-raj.org


- Original Message - 
From: "Arwin Mesquita" 

To: "Goanet" 
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 11:25 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Saving Goa


*http://www.oheraldo.in/newscategory/Letters/13*
*Saving Goa
Rina Fernandes, Ponda
*Brilliant job done by Praxy Fernandes in the open letter addressed to the
CM in the column Opinionated dated June 1. The message is loud and clear.
Digambar Kamat, I hope you read newspapers. I strongly agree with every view
mentioned in the letter. It is sad to see outsiders coming to Goa and
over-powering us. What are we doing seeing our beautiful Goa getting
destroyed in the evil hands of our politicians?. These corrupt ministers
should be kicked out of our land and this can happen only when we Goans
unite and raise our voices. How much freedom are we enjoying in our own



[Goanet] Saving Goa

2010-06-05 Thread Arwin Mesquita
*http://www.oheraldo.in/newscategory/Letters/13*
*Saving Goa
Rina Fernandes, Ponda
*Brilliant job done by Praxy Fernandes in the open letter addressed to the
CM in the column Opinionated dated June 1. The message is loud and clear.
Digambar Kamat, I hope you read newspapers. I strongly agree with every view
mentioned in the letter. It is sad to see outsiders coming to Goa and
over-powering us. What are we doing seeing our beautiful Goa getting
destroyed in the evil hands of our politicians?. These corrupt ministers
should be kicked out of our land and this can happen only when we Goans
unite and raise our voices. How much freedom are we enjoying in our own
land? Can we really call ourselves free? I wonder if the CM and his gang of
looters and cheaters have a heart. For what are they amassing so much wealth
and that too, by cheating common and innocent people? What should happen to
all the wealth when not one of us is certain about life tomorrow? You may
cheat as long as you like, but mind you, there is an all powerful God
watching over all our actions. It is time for us, Goans, to unite as one big
family and save our Goa from outsiders and evil politicians. Or a time will
come when we will be outsiders in our own land. Let’s raise our voices.
Let’s take a step towards making Goa, the Goa of our dreams – beautiful,
bright, green and safe. This is the time to start… This is the time to make
our presence felt… This is the time to write and shout aloud – Together, we
can and will make a difference…


-- 
Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/

Please also see below:
1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/
2. "Rape of Goa" : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/
3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/
4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO:
http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html
5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/
6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim
7. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686
8. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/


[Goanet] Saving Goa?s Prized Identity will be a lesson to world

2009-02-02 Thread Venantius Pinto
Good going Floriano. Bless all of you.

Perhaps the Archbishop and all priests should offer their masses to the Goan
soil and its people every bhot a puja, and every maulvi a salah (a nafl). I
think that is not much to ask. You know that your support is needed to
inspire solidarity. I understand that we are not talking here of Jaime
Cardinal Sin or Archbishop Romero, or people of the likes of the Frontier
Gandhi and Vallabhbhai Patel and Bose Subash Chandra but one could start
somewhere. There is still time to be counted as a leader.

Christians give a thought to, What would Jesus do? Don't embarass yourself
with inane justifications. Always remember that. Other follow you own paths.
There are many great paths in non-Christian traditions. Its time to walk
them. It is also time to stop referring to politicians as Rajnetas (they are
no leaders AND WILL NEVER BE--at least not ours) and go with rajnitijnya.

Again, bless all of you proud Goans and those of you who live Goanity. Its
beyond Kator re bhaji time.

venantius j pinto


From: "goasuraj" 
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Saving Goa?s Prized Identity will be a lesson to
   world

BTW: At tomorrow's 4 p.m. planned meet at the Moira Club grounds, we propose
to pass the following 2 resolutions

1. MINERAL RESOURCE OF GOA ARE A GIFT OF 'GOD'  TO THE PEOPLE OF GOA. IF ITS
EXPLOITATION DOES NOT BENEFIT THE PEOPLE OF GOA, THEN LET IT LIE THERE
BURIED AND UNTOUCHED WETHER SOMEBODY LIKES IT OR NOT.

2. A MESSAGE TO FOMENTO'S AUDHUT TIMBLO - WITHDRAW THE RS. 500 CRORE  SUIT
FILED AGAINST SEBY RODRIGUES  IN THE KOLKATA HIGH COURT OR FACE THE WRATH OF
THE GOAN PEOPLE
All are invited to attend this meeting. Cheryl D'souza of Colomba will be
the STAR speaker. She has promissed to attend among most others across Goa.
[Sujay Gupta beware! You are likely to be blown off from MOIRA]

floriano
goasuraj


[Goanet] Saving Goa with a Camera...

2008-05-29 Thread Jason Keith Fernandes
Dear Cedric da Costa,

I dont know who you are or what you do, but you have hit the nail of the
bang on the head! you are genius! It could not have been put better!

Indeed, a communal division of Goa, and a creation of a Goa based on ethnic
strife is as dangerous as a Goa held to ransom by builders lobbies et al.

Thank you for putting the issue back in focus and showing us that the enemy
has wonderful ways of disguising himself.

many thanks...

Jason

>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:34:18 -0700 (PDT)
>From: cedrico dacosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [Goanet] Saving Goa with a Camera...
>Saving Goa with a camera...

>I guess all those who are actively working to free Goa
>from the destructive forces, which also includes the
>COMMUNIAL elements out to divide and destruct Goa
>should step aside...

>All those on the red goan soil...and outside
>it...Goans all over the world and Goans in Goa...be
>aware and step aside...only one man can save Goa...

>I guess your guess is as good as mine...

>Cedric da Costa
>Dubai


[Goanet] Saving Goa with a Camera...

2008-05-29 Thread cedrico dacosta
Saving Goa with a camera...

I guess all those who are actively working to free Goa
from the destructive forces, which also includes the
COMMUNIAL elements out to divide and destruct Goa
should step aside...

Only one man can save Goa and no one else...NO ONE
ELSE...but one foolhardy...

All those on the red goan soil...and outside
it...Goans all over the world and Goans in Goa...be
aware and step aside...only one man can save Goa...

I guess your guess is as good as mine...

Cedric da Costa
Dubai


  



Re: [Goanet] Saving Goa.

2008-05-17 Thread JOHN MONTEIRO
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Hi Marshall
   
  I have no problem with this, if the Law says NO then its NO.  
   
  If Goa had the same rule as the Kashmiri government regarding the owning of 
land, then this would be alright for everyone, then no "outsider" be they from 
the  next State of next country, or UK or wherever, then we would NOT be in 
this situation now.  But was this about the land?  Did they purchase the land 
itself?  I think it was just the property, but this needs to be clarified by 
the buyers.
   
  This was not about the land methinks, I suspect it was the house & garden, 
the money spent buying it and doing it over.
   
  This couple DID buy the house.  I dispute whether they actually bought the 
land that went with it.  Would this couple please respond, did you actually buy 
the LAND that went with the house (freehold as they call it in UK), or was it 
leasehold? etc.
   
  In any event, they bought PROPERTY, legally.  They now do not have the right 
to live in it.
   
  Perhaps they can now be just like the majority of "investors" in the State, 
rent it out to other foreigners, since the alternative is to have it 
confiscated and sold at auction.
   
  Or are they not allowed to do this either?
   
  It seems to endless, but as you say, the Kashmiris only can buy land, but can 
anyone else buy the house that is built on top of it?  Rent the house and the 
land?  
   
  My what a tangled web
   
  John Monteiro

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jose Colaco wrote:
A Goan is NOT allowed to purchase property in Kashmir.Please vide Art 370 of 
Indian Constitution. It "bars a non-Kashmiri from buying land in the State"
Comment: Non Himachalis too are barred from buying land in Himachal Pradesh. I 
believe similar restricions prevail in some of the north eastern states like 
Arunachal Pradesh, Mizoram, etc. Goa too should have passed similar laws but 
then it has been the legislators who have been instrumental in selling Goa.It 
is no use blaming the outsiders. Unless there are sellers, there will be no 
buyers.

Marshall Mendonza
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[Goanet] Saving Goa.

2008-05-16 Thread marshallmendonza
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Jose Colaco wrote:
A Goan is NOT allowed to purchase property in Kashmir.Please vide Art 370 of 
Indian Constitution. It "bars a non-Kashmiri from buying land in the State"
Comment:
Non Himachalis too are barred from buying land in Himachal Pradesh. I believe 
similar restricions prevail in some of the north eastern states like Arunachal 
Pradesh, Mizoram, etc. Goa too should have passed similar laws but then it has 
been the legislators who have been instrumental in selling Goa.It is no use 
blaming the outsiders. Unless there are sellers, there will be no buyers.

Marshall Mendonza


Re: [Goanet] saving Goa.

2008-05-16 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
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Mario Goveia to Gillian :  I forgot that I needed to provide you with
an education as we go:-))   The last time I checked Kashmir was not an
Indian state yet.  It is still a disputed territory administered by
three different governments, Pakistan, India and China.

Bosco D'Mello's RESPONSE: Kashmir was not an Indian state yet?? Hmmm.
Is this another act of "Pulling the wool over our eyes"?
==

Dear Bosco,

M W Goveia can always blame his "inventions" on faulty intelligence
His Own !

I wonder if he will apologise to Gillian for his obnoxious pomposity,

jc


[Goanet] saving Goa.

2008-05-15 Thread Mario Goveia
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:26:37 -0400
From: "Bosco D'Mello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
RESPONSE: Kashmir was not an Indian state yet??
Hmmm.
>
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/in.html
>
http://www.mapsofindia.com/maps/india/india-political-map.htm
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_and_territories_of_India
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jammu_and_Kashmir
>
Is this another act of "Pulling the wool over our
eyes"?
>
Mario responds:
>
The re-education continues and the class seems to have
grown:-)).
>
While I could have been more clear in my previous
comments, Bosco is apparently unfamiliar with the
nuances of Kashmir within the context of India and the
discussion that was taking place.  The discussion was
about whether a Goan can buy property in Kashmir like
non-Goan Indians can buy property in Goa.
I wonder why Bosco left out my next sentence, "It is
still a disputed territory administered by three
different governments, Pakistan, India and China."
>
In fact Jammu & Kashmir is autonomous under Article
370 of the Indian Constitution.  Thus the region does
not function like other Indian states including Goa.  
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir#Post-1947_developments.2C_including_ratification_of_accession
>
Excerpts:
>
The region is divided among three countries in a
territorial dispute: 
>
Though these regions are in practice administered by
their respective claimants, neither India nor Pakistan
has formally recognised the accession of the areas
claimed by each other. 
[end of excerpt]
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jammu_and_Kashmir#Politics_and_government
>
Excerpt:
>
The Constitution of India grants Jammu and Kashmir
special autonomous status as a temporary provision
through Article 370.  However, some Muslim Kashmiris
demand greater autonomy and sovereignty and some even
demand independence from India, while some non-Muslims
would like to see the state fully integrated into
India.
>



Re: [Goanet] saving Goa.

2008-05-15 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
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In response to this question from : "jane gillian rodrigues" ...but
you have not let me know about whether you a Goan, can buy land in
Kashmir.

The usually dis-informed Mario responded thus:  I forgot that I needed
to provide you with an education as we go:-))  The last time I checked
Kashmir was not an Indian state yet.

jc's advice:

He who does not know MUST check   http://goidirectory.nic.in/stateut.htm

He who does not know should NOT offer to teach another.

He who does not know MAY invent facts.

He who cannot answer - may try to OBFUSCATE

He who does not know but tries to teach others - is usually considered
to be a foolishly unwise person

BTW Gillian: A Goa is NOT allowed to purchase property in Kashmir.
Please vide Art 370 of Indian Constitution. It "bars a non-Kashmiri
from buying land in the State"

just my view

jc


[Goanet] saving Goa.

2008-05-15 Thread Bosco D'Mello

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I forgot that I needed to provide you with an
education as we go:-))  The last time I checked
Kashmir was not an Indian state yet.  It is still a
disputed territory administered by three different
governments, Pakistan, India and China.


RESPONSE: Kashmir was not an Indian state yet?? Hmmm.


https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/in.html

http://www.mapsofindia.com/maps/india/india-political-map.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_and_territories_of_India

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jammu_and_Kashmir


Is this another act of "Pulling the wool over our eyes"?





[Goanet] saving Goa.

2008-05-15 Thread Mario Goveia
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Date: 15 May 2008 04:56:52 -
From: "jane gillian rodrigues" 
>
Once again, thank you for taking the time to reply to
my e-mail, but you have not let me know about whether,
you a Goan, can buy land in Kashmir.
>
Mario responds:
>
I forgot that I needed to provide you with an
education as we go:-))  The last time I checked
Kashmir was not an Indian state yet.  It is still a
disputed territory administered by three different
governments, Pakistan, India and China.
>
Jane Gillian wrote:
>
the Americans, are scary people, they elect an actor -
 Ronald Reagan, as President, 
>
Mario responds:
>
I wonder where you went to school, Jane Gillian?  I
should be charging you for all this free remedial
education:-))
>
How can there be anything scary about people who are
willing to voluntarily shed their blood for total
strangers - except perhaps the bad guys?
>
We have a saying here about Americans, "No better
friend.  No worse enemy."
>
Before he was elected President in a landslide, twice,
and after his career as an actor, Ronald Reagan was a
very successful Governor of our largest state of
California.
>
Today, he is credited with the military pressure that
caused the old Soviet Union to collapse, assisted by
Pope John Paul II's moral pressure and Mikhail
Gorbachev's giving up the ghost, not to mention
stabilizing the country and the economy after the
disastrous Jimmy Carter presidency.
>
Jane Gillian wrote:
>
but feel a highly educated, accomplished,
well-experienced woman like Madam Hillary Clinto
cannot  be elected as the next Prez of the US.
>
Mario responds:
>
I think you are confusing Mrs. Clinton's
accomplishments and experience with that of her
husband, who was a state Governor before being elected
President.  Whatever accomplishments and experience
she claims to have are largely a figment of a very
creative imagination.
>
Jane Gillian wrote:
>
Yes, I guess, Hollywood actors do fit the American
vision of leader of the USA.
>
Mario responds:
>
The absurdity of this comment is demonstrated by the
fact that no other Hollywood actor has been elected US
President and the one who was an actor was also
previously a very successful Governor of the largest
state in the US.
>
Jane Gillian wrote:
>
Yes, we women around the globe are wondering who
exactly will US males ever think, is the "right woman"
to be elected as the US President. 
>
Mario responds:
>
About half the US electorate is comprised of women, so
for you to blame the fact that we haven't found the
right woman to be US President yet on US males, is,
once again, shown to be an absurd statement.
>
Jane Gillian wrote:
>
I am  amazed, that there are still, long over-night
queues outide the US embassy where non-American Goans
are waiting, nay harassing US officials to help them
migrate to the US. 
>
Mario responds:
>
With your level of knowledge of the US, I am not
surprised you would be amazed at this.
>
You will find some facts in the following website:
>
http://www.migrationinformation.org/usfocus/display.cfm?ID=421
>
Some statistics taken in 2005:
>
The US had 35.7 million foreign-born residing in the
country in 2005.  Of these, 1.4 million came from
India.
>
The US had 14.9 million naturalized citizens in 2005,
i.e. those born in other countries who have become US
citizens.  
>
604,280 new US citizens were naturalized in 2005.  6%
of these came from India.
>
552,000 applications were pending at the end of 2005.
>
Jane Gillian wrote:
>
I commend you, and all goans who are making an all-out
effort to preserve the beauty of Goa.
>
Mario responds:
>
Why, thank you!
>
Now, all they have to do is LISTEN TO ME!
>











[Goanet] saving Goa.

2008-05-14 Thread jane gillian rodrigues
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Dear Mario,

Once again, thank you for taking the time to reply to my e-mail, but you have 
not let me know about whether, you a Goan, can buy land in Kashmir.

My reply - Yes, the Americans, are scary people, they elect an actor - Ronald 
Reagan,  as President,  but feel a highly educated, accomplished, 
well-experienced woman like Madam Hillary Clinto cannot be elected as the next 
Prez of the US. Yes, I guess, Hollywood actors do fit the American vision of 
leader of the USA.  The number of excuses through e-mails sent by every US 
male, to me,  are many and ridiculous, for not wanting a female President. Yes, 
we women around the globe are wondering who exactly will US males ever think, 
is the "right woman" to be elected as the US President.  From what all women 
around the Globe are observing, "women power" does not exist in the USA.  US 
women are forced to follow the decisions of their male counterparts, in 
electing a "MALE as the next US President, as US Males will never allow their 
country to be ruled by a "WOMAN".


Your statement below - "Actually, you have unintentionally confirmed that the
US is above making such important decisions based
simply on gender or race, but on their perception of
the whether the individual fits their idea of who they
want to lead the country."

My reply - I am  amazed, that there are still, long over-night queues outide 
the  US embassy where non-American Goans are waiting , nay harassing US 
officials to help them migrate to the US. 

Your statement below -"In case you missed it here is an unbiased opinion
based on personal observation on what the US I know is
like from a non-American Goan who lived here for
several years":

Yes, once again, the present Goan govtmt with the help of Goans are doing their 
best to preserve Goa, for the future of our children.

I commend you, and all goans who are making an all-out effort to preserve the 
beauty of Goa.

Regards,

Jane Rodrigues
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From: Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet]  suggestions please "protection of goan land"

Date: 9 May 2008 11:16:56 -
From: "jane gillian rodrigues" 
>
I enjoyed your replies to my e-mail, and thank you for
the same, but you have not offered any solutions  to
"protecting Goan Land".
>
Mario responds:
>
Jane Gillian,
>
I spend my days wondering how I can provide you with
an enjoyable education on how the world works:-))
>
Regarding offering solutions, how did you miss the
following post? 
>
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-April/072036.html
>
Starting with that post I have become like a stuck
record on how Goa can protect it's environment through
local zoning laws rather than authoritarian separatist
Marxist notions that have no place in a modern
democracy having failed wherever else they have been
used.  Zoning laws control development without
stopping it and make it compatible with the
surroundings, history, architecture, culture etc.
>
By the way, local zoning laws are not specific to the
US, they are used across Europe and in every rational
civilized country.
>
Jane Gillian wrote:
>
A) does the constitutional freedom to own personal
property also include destroying nature?
>
Mario responds:
>
No it doesn't.  Anyone who deliberately destroys
nature should be locked up, after they are soundly
spanked, and they should then throw away the key.
>
The real issue in a free democracy is who gets to
decide whether an owner of private property is
"destroying nature".  Zoning laws, which are developed
with local input, are a sensible solution that control
development without preventing it and make it
compatible with the local environment.  Everyone wins.
>
Jane Gillian wrote:
>
Could you please explain to me why Aldonkars have
taken a stand, making it the governments business to 
prevent misuse/sale of their village land to other
Indians? What about SEZ???
>
Mario responds:
>
To begin with, my comment you are referring said it
was none of the government's business why someone
would want to sell their property, not what is done
with the property after someone buys it.
>
Citizens in a democracy can get together collectively
to influence their local legislators, as the Aldonkars
did and the SEZ opponents as well.  This is perfectly
legitimate as long as it does not trample on the
rights of minorities.  These decisions can still be
challenged in court and the legal system will
arbitrate.  All such heat and angst is prec

[Goanet] Saving Goa and migrants

2008-05-06 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 05:23:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Samir Kelekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Same case with the poorer migrants. They come to Goa
because there is work for them --- especially in
the booming construction industry. Others come to
become fruit vendors because they find Goans are
not competitive enough and they can capture the
market.
>
Perhaps we should fight for a blanket ban on all
construction activity in Goa.  This can solve a lot of
the problem. Richer migrants wont be able to buy
flats, and so they wont migrate to Goa. A lot of the
poorer migrants wont come because there won't be work
for them.
>
Mario adds:
>
Samir,
>
Before your tongue got stuck in your cheek you were
doing pretty good in your pithy analyses of the Goan
dilemma.
>
Of course the problem is not the migrants.  As with
migrants the world over, and I am one, migrants are
always held to a different standard, and should, in my
opinion, as part of paying their dues, but tend to
become convenient pawns when things seem to be going
awry.
>
Say what you will, Goa today would be static without
migrants.  The largest economy in the world, the USA,
would be static without migrants which is why legal
migrants are celebrated here and welcomed with open
arms in emotional citizenship ceremonies.
>
The most ironic example of Goa's dilemma is our good
friend, Floriano, enterprising, emotional, highly
motivated, honest to a fault, who would desperately
like to protect Goa for Goans, but would be unable to
conduct his construction business successfully without
migrants.
>
Such is the price of freedom and progress in a
thriving modern post-socialist democracy.
>



[Goanet] Saving Goa and migrants

2008-05-06 Thread Samir Kelekar
Rajan raises some very valid issues in his
post about migrants; however, I 
dont think we can just pinpoint to outsiders/migrants
as the cause of the problem.

The problem is much deeper. Richer Non-Goans are
buying land/flats because Goans are selling their
lands.
Goans are selling their land partly because they
need the money. And they need the money because they
have been susegaad all their lives and finding it
tough to make ends meet.

Same case with the poorer migrants. They come to Goa
because there is work for them --- especially in
the booming construction industry. Others come to
become fruit vendors because they find Goans are
not competitive enough and they can capture the
market.

Perhaps we should fight for a blanket ban on all
construction activity in Goa.
This can solve a lot of the problem. Richer migrants
wont be able to buy flats, and so they wont migrate
to Goa. A lot of the poorer migrants wont come because
there won't be work for them.

regards,
Samir



  

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Re: [Goanet] Saving Goa from land abuses

2008-05-04 Thread floriano

George,
Pardon me but what you have to say is pure music to my ears.
No, do not for a moment think that I am being sacarstic. I mean it,  in that 
I had, some time back, put forth a proposal  that the NRIGs should float a 
TRUST where Goan heritage and other old/disused/needing repairs houses and 
properties should be purchased thro' this trust and put them back on salel 
to Goans or lease them out to recover the costs.  That way what is happening 
today to Goa would not happen.


Similarly, we had floated the idea of setting up something like what you are 
talking here so that this office could delegate cases  of land-grab, illegal 
transfer of houses and properties, fight cases in courts for people who are 
not around etc. delegated to  friendly lawyers of repute in different 
talukas.


Well, I am happy that someone is conducive to that idea and it is never too 
late.


Interestingly, when Rene Baretto wanted to hand-over the NRIGs in the hands 
of the RSS through Nitin Kukolienkar, I had objected vociferously because I 
wanted the NRIGs to be channelled in the proper way so that they as well as 
Goans at large and GOA benefits from the venture.


b/rgds
floriano
goasuraj


- Original Message - 
From: "George Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Goanet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Saving Goa from land abuses



Dear Miguel

One cannot fight cancer with a CROCIN tablet. Going back to the original 
land scam in Goa (the
mining industry), no one has been held accountable or penalized or gone to 
jail. No amount of
well-intentioned protests by people of good-will is going to stop the land 
mafia. The most
effective solution is to review current transactions but also those going 
back, say 5 years. Those
found in violation should be penalized and sent to jail, AND the 
project/development torn down and

bull-dozed. Now that will get the land mafia's attention.

Protests come and go and the land mafia waits it out, attrition wins. I am 
willing as I have
written before to raise money (say 5-10 lakhs as a start) to open an 
office called GOA OFFICE OF
LAND ACCOUNTABILITY (GOOLA). This office can hire a few lawyers and 
activists to review
transactions, use the RTI act to obtain information, file PILs, educate 
the public, assist gram
sabhas and panchayats review large transactions. It is the people's 
office, a central clearing
hosue where various groups can come together. If we know something illegal 
has happened and don't
do anything about it, are we not complicit? Do we really believe any large 
land transaction has

not involved a bribe? Are we for law and order?

So my question is: are there a few lawyers and activists willing to staff 
this office? They will
be paid and need to do the above full-time, not something as a volunteer 
in their free-time.


Are Goans going to allow their land to be stolen or are they going to say 
ENOUGH?


Regards,
George


--- Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dear George,

Politics is  "current affairs" not archaeology or paleontology. It has to 
be dealt with
propectively or at best a few months in the past. There are laws to that 
effect. e.g. the CRZ is
applicable after 1992 and the Gram Sabha in Goa is after 1994. We should 
not get too ambitious or
we will end in a soup while trying to cook the goose or make a fillet of 
the real estate sharks

;-)

Mog asundi.

Miguel

FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DATE: Fri, 2 May 2008 22:43:29 -0700 (PDT)
SUBJECT: Saving Goa from land abuses

I am surprized there has been no mention of Gram Sabhas going back in 
time, say the last 5 years,
to review all licenses granted and the legality of various mega/large 
contructions. Why shouldn't
ALL mega/large projects be reviewed? Some of the mega/large projects have 
refused to sell to Goans
and only entertain foreigners and non-Goans as customers, treating our 
people as second-class in
our own land. Why not investigate ownership patterns when Goans were 
denied the right to buy?







Re: [Goanet] Saving Goa from land abuses

2008-05-04 Thread George Pinto
Dear Miguel

One cannot fight cancer with a CROCIN tablet. Going back to the original land 
scam in Goa (the
mining industry), no one has been held accountable or penalized or gone to 
jail. No amount of
well-intentioned protests by people of good-will is going to stop the land 
mafia. The most
effective solution is to review current transactions but also those going back, 
say 5 years. Those
found in violation should be penalized and sent to jail, AND the 
project/development torn down and
bull-dozed. Now that will get the land mafia's attention. 

Protests come and go and the land mafia waits it out, attrition wins. I am 
willing as I have
written before to raise money (say 5-10 lakhs as a start) to open an office 
called GOA OFFICE OF
LAND ACCOUNTABILITY (GOOLA). This office can hire a few lawyers and activists 
to review
transactions, use the RTI act to obtain information, file PILs, educate the 
public, assist gram
sabhas and panchayats review large transactions. It is the people's office, a 
central clearing
hosue where various groups can come together. If we know something illegal has 
happened and don't
do anything about it, are we not complicit? Do we really believe any large land 
transaction has
not involved a bribe? Are we for law and order?  

So my question is: are there a few lawyers and activists willing to staff this 
office? They will
be paid and need to do the above full-time, not something as a volunteer in 
their free-time.

Are Goans going to allow their land to be stolen or are they going to say 
ENOUGH?

Regards,
George


--- Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dear George,
 
Politics is  "current affairs" not archaeology or paleontology. It has to be 
dealt with
propectively or at best a few months in the past. There are laws to that 
effect. e.g. the CRZ is
applicable after 1992 and the Gram Sabha in Goa is after 1994. We should not 
get too ambitious or
we will end in a soup while trying to cook the goose or make a fillet of the 
real estate sharks
;-)
 
Mog asundi.
 
Miguel
 
FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
DATE: Fri, 2 May 2008 22:43:29 -0700 (PDT) 
SUBJECT: Saving Goa from land abuses 

I am surprized there has been no mention of Gram Sabhas going back in time, say 
the last 5 years,
to review all licenses granted and the legality of various mega/large 
contructions. Why shouldn't
ALL mega/large projects be reviewed? Some of the mega/large projects have 
refused to sell to Goans
and only entertain foreigners and non-Goans as customers, treating our people 
as second-class in
our own land. Why not investigate ownership patterns when Goans were denied the 
right to buy? 




[Goanet] Saving Goa from land abuses

2008-05-02 Thread George Pinto
I am surprized there has been no mention of Gram Sabhas going back in time, say 
the last 5 years,
to review all licenses granted and the legality of various mega/large 
contructions. Why shouldn't
ALL mega/large projects be reviewed? Some of the mega/large projects have 
refused to sell to Goans
and only entertain foreigners and non-Goans as customers, treating our people 
as second-class in
our own land. Why not investigate ownership patterns when Goans were denied the 
right to buy? 

People power can prevail now, and with hindsight, correct many wrongs. Why not 
go back to the
original land scam in Goa - the mining industry and its illegalities. 

Regards,
George





[Goanet] Saving Goa - why and for whom?

2007-11-29 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
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To Goanet -

My meanderings in the past 4-5 days in Goa have taken me to the mining 
heartland of of the state: Shirgaon, Amona, Lamgaon & Pale (Bicholim 
taluka), Pissurlem (Sattari taluka), Darbandora, Codli & Usgaon (Ponda 
taluka), Sanvordem and surrounds (Sanguem taluka).

I was on Vetal's trail.  There are 49 surviving temples of Vetal in Goa, 
according to Dr. Pandurang Phaldesai who has listed them in his book, 
"Kaleidoscopic Goa - A Cultural Atlas."  There are none in the talukas of 
Bardez, Tiswadi and Salcette as they were destroyed by the Portuguese. But I 
digress.

Yesterday, on my second visit to Usgaon in as many days, I was unprepared 
for the extraordinarily hellish sight that lay in store.  Eight kilometres 
of bumper-to-bumper trucks one way and an endless chain of trucks coming the 
other way.  I quickly did a 'Fermi calculation' (after the great physicist) 
for the approximate number of trucks one way assuming a 6 metres length for 
each truck to account for clearance between two vehicles.  You can do the 
math yourself.

This looked like a war zone, the very definition of hell.  I dared not step 
out of the car for fear of dust (dust is a great enemy of dSLRs), but the 
true picture could only be had from a helicopter. There was no traffic 
police in sight, no nothing. This ought to be an illegal use of Goa's 
roadways.

It took us over an hour from the Usgaon junction to the Vetal temple, a 
distance of less them half a kilometre.  I was told these mines belong to 
one Prasanna Ghodge of Belgaum.  A similar situation we encountered in 
Sanvordem, this time near the Salgaoncar mines.

In Pissurlem we saw children playing cricket with the dust settling down on 
them in real time. I leave the colour of the foliage in all these areas to 
your imagination.  It is one thing to read about the destruction wrought by 
the mines. But you have to see it yourself for the crimes to truly register.

The Usgaon villagers have been getting it from all sides: the relentless 
array of trucks, noise, dust, and the teeming ghatis.  The mandap of the 
Shri Adinath temple was grilled up like a net.  Upon inquiry I was told of 
the truism as regards ghatis: Anything that can be stolen WILL BE stolen. 
And so our temples have to now look like prison cells.

It was dusk by the time we got to the Ponda junction, not too far from the 
ancient Safa Masjid. If I didn't already know my coordinates, I would have 
mistaken it for a godforsaken filthy junction typical of a town in 
Karnataka.  Ponda is now, thanks to Ravi Naik, a ghati nagar.  But of 
course, one of our Goa Bachao champions has declared that ghatis are no 
threat to Goa.

My question to every conscientious Goan is: Why save Goa?  And for whom? 
For Dempo & Salgaoncar?  For the rich uncouth North Indian who is buying out 
your houses, land and apartments?  For the white trash loafing shirtless on 
his mobike?  For Digu, Vishwajeet & Babush? For the unwashed shitting ghati 
millions who will shortly outnumber you?

Warm regards,


r 



[Goanet] SAving Goa from itself

2007-11-14 Thread Pamela D'Mello
Saving Goa from itself
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All these years, we have spent Diwali at our house in Goa. The weather is
nice: warm in the day; cool at night. In our little village, the only sounds
we hear are the strains of Indian classical music from the temple close by.
The sky is clear and starry, playing hide-and-seek with the swaying fronds
of coconut trees. Forget climate control systems, we don't even need the
fans. And so it was that we arrived in our paradise in early November.

But wait a minute: the skies are hazy with ominous black clouds on the
horizon; it is hot and humid. "It's like May," I tell my friend. It was his
first time in long years and certainly a first for staying in a Goan home.
Our place is not a second house; it is our home in Goa. We come here not
just to take a break but to be part of this wondrous whirlpool, to be sucked
willy-nilly into the vortex of civilised chaos and earthy culture.

As we wended our way home, we heard drum rolls in the sky: thunder, followed
by a spectacular display of lightning. This weather continued for a couple
of days and then it exploded into a cloudburst of rain amid the sound and
light display. Awesome as it was, we felt an immediate threat: impaired
driving and traffic snarls. Wonderful as Goa is, there are still the
problems of an India that is becoming rapidly rich.

This is the problem in Goa: wealthy Indians are buying up properties as a
second house. It is perhaps the most global enclave in India, not just
because of tourism, but because the local ethos is civilised; at the law
office of my friend Antonio Filipe Cordeiro one morning, I saw visitors wish
the receptionist a hearty good morning. If you have such a civilised place
on your doorstep, why look at England, France or Spain? Goa provides a
wonderful alternative.

One of the offshoots of globalisation has been the huge increase in the
wealth of people who run or own companies. For every Infosys or Wipro, there
are hundreds of smaller firms that are riding high on the economic boom.
They have generated enough resources for people to seek get-aways to greener
pastures. At one time, not too long ago, it was travel; now it is setting up
second houses, especially in Goa.

Trouble is, Goa is at the mercy of venal politicians, a sluggish
bureaucracy, greedy and homesick NRIs and a wide variety of idealistic NGO
naysayers who don't understand change. Add to this a bunch of rapacious
builders and developers and you have the recipe for a disaster. The complete
lack of governance at the state level is balanced somewhat by the active
communidades with their limited powers and susceptibility to ATM persuasion.

In the end, Goa suffers from a deficit of governance. After last week's
storm, the power grid collapsed, leaving much of the place in darkness for
hours. The government-owned utility simply shut down its wobbly network,
leaving us without power during the festival of lights. As you cross the
bridge from Panjim, just across from the assembly building, an entire
hillside collapsed onto the national highway during the monsoon, leaving a
scar on a tableau that counts among the most picturesque in the state.

There are horror stories about the unseasonal storm as well as the ferocious
monsoon. But the politicians are busy scheming; the bureaucrats slumbering
and the activists, armchair and otherwise, railing against SEZs and mines;
the one paper I read buried the weather story on its inside pages.

As an increasingly wealthy India puts pressure on this haven, the local
regime, locked into its own internecine battles, is coming up spectacularly
short of ideas and values to deal with it. Many people see it as a
get-rich-quick opportunity; others see it in a muddle-headed way as a threat
to nature and are treating it as a fight between good and evil. The
government is clueless, pulled every which way by fixers and protesters; the
resultant paralysis is taking its toll.

Em

[Goanet] saving Goa-3

2007-10-01 Thread nelson ferrao
 
 TRI Continental Film Festival - Dona Paula, Goa, Sep 28 - Oct 2, 2007

http://www.moviesgoa.org/tricontinental/tricon.htm

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Dear goanet readers
This is my last post on the topic with some solution to our problems in Goa
1. *Corruption:* this has two components.
 *Politicians and the power lobby*-- In this case, the
industrialists and the builders.They both need each other to remain in power
and make money. They have a prostitute and client type
relationship.Thismoney is used for wealth, elections and perpetuate
power and end of the day
it is all robbed from honest public in one form or the other.The key is to
break this chain,but it is not as easy.
  One of the solution will be to target all those politicians who have
amassed wealth all these years by voting them out or don't elect anybody for
more than once.Public education and a persistent campaign against such
candidates during elections-- as was done in some cases this time- is very
effective.
   *Public*: you cant win this war without public
cooperation.Unfortunately, people are used to this evil as something
unavoidable.There should be mass awareness campaign by all like minded
persons and organisations and possibly have an Anti corruption cell manned
by voluntary organisation.
  *you can only minimise corruption, but
cant eliminate it*!

2. *Garbage:* mass awareness campaign about hazards of
garbage.Takepanchayats and muncipalities to task over this
issue.Privatise garbage collection. This can generate
employment.Governmentcan use latest
technology.this subject should be thought in all schools.

3.  *Immigration:* control of ration cards. charge all immigrants for health
and education.strict control of labour intensive industries.
*Ban all hutments*. Make shitting in public places an offence and punish
people who employ outsiders and do not provide provide them with facilities
for housing, bath and toilet.
Under the present constitution, there is provision not to sell land to
outsiders as is case of Kashmere and Sikkim.Mechanise ares of industries
rather than rely on cheap labour.Minimum Wage act should be implemented so
that people are paid to meet their living standards- which is quite high in
case of goa- it might tempt our own people to work at home instead of
working  abroad.Ban unwanted industries and SEZ.

*   THE FINAL SOLUTION*;FORM A* THIRD FRONT* COMPRISING OF ALL LIKE
MINDED PEOPLE AND ORGANISATION WHO HAVE INTEREST OF GOA AT HEART. THIS FRONT
SHOULD ACT AS THINK TANK,WATCHDOG AND POSSIBLY A POLITICAL ALTERNATIVE TO
EXISTING PARTIES OR JOIN FORCES WITH PEOPLE FROM PRESENT PARTIES WITH GOOD
TRACK RECORD.
BEWARE OF NGOS OR STOOGES OF PRESENT POLITICAL PARTIES AS WAS THE CASE
IN PRESENT ELECTIONS WHEREIN SOME PROMINENT ACTIVISTS, INDIVIDUALLY OR
ORGANISATION BASED, WERE USED BY POLITICAL PARTIES.
  *  MEDIA*: PRESENT MEDIA IN GOA IS BADLY COMPROMISED AND WAS BOUGHT OUT BY
POLITICIANS DURING THE LAST ELECTIONS,EVEN THE MOST PROMINENT MEDIA PERSONS
WHO ONCE FOUGHT PASSIONATELY FOR LOT OF PUBLIC ISSUES WERE VERY BIASED AND
DISTORTED THE REAL ISSUES.IDEAL WOULD BE TO GET OUR MEDIA.GOANET SHOULD BE
USED MORE EFFECTIVELY TO HIGHLIGHT/RAISE/DISCUSS REAL ISSUES CONCERNING GOA
INSTEAD OF RAISING CONTROVERSIES AND SATISFYING PERSONAL EGOS.

   *DONT FORGET NRIS*: THEY ARE POWERFUL INTERNATIONAL FORCE WHO ARE
PASSIONATE ABOUT GOA AND CAN BE A TREMENDOUS ASSET.THE GULF GOANS WILL BE A
REAL PRESSURE GROUP AS THEY HAVE THEIR NEXT KITH AND KIN AT HOME AND HAVE
MUCH TO LOOSE IF GOA GOES DOWN THE DRAIN.NRI SERVE AS GOODWILL AMBASSADORS
ABROAD WHICH HELPS TOURISM, BESIDES CONTRIBUTING GENEROUSLY TO GOAN ECONOMY.

 *TIME TO FIGHT BACK IF YOU WANT TO PRESERVE GOAN IDENTITY AND
CULTURE.*
*  START WITH LOK SABHA ELECTIONS BY PUTTING UP A  FRESH
 FACE*.
I have tried to analyse/ discuss and give some possible solution to our
burning issues.I hope this will do some soul searching among all those who
love goa and join together to put up a united front.Please feel free to
write with feedback at [EMAIL PROTECTED] .I am not an imposter.I am real
and do exist and honestly believe that united together, we can win this
battle!!


Re: [Goanet] saving goa

2007-09-25 Thread JOHN MONTEIRO
 
 TRI Continental Film Festival - Dona Paula, Goa, Sep 28 - Oct 2, 2007

http://www.moviesgoa.org/tricontinental/tricon.htm

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+91-832-2452805 to 10)

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Well said & we all hope & pray this comes about.  Unite & conquer all your 
fears, rid Goa of corruption & dirty politics, Divide and you fall, allowing 
corruption & dirty politics to take over.

I would like to say if more people were this concerned about Goa (the 
majority of posters on this forum are concerned), then gather up in little 
groups & have meetings, join other little groups & make bigger groups, have 
debates but act on them & vote with your feet as well as the ballot box.

John Monteiro
Berkshire, England 



[Goanet] saving goa

2007-09-24 Thread nelson ferrao
 
 TRI Continental Film Festival - Dona Paula, Goa, Sep 28 - Oct 2, 2007

http://www.moviesgoa.org/tricontinental/tricon.htm

For public viewing. Registration at  The International Centre Goa.  (Ph: 
+91-832-2452805 to 10)

  Online Media Partner:  http://www.GOANET.org

Dear goanet readers
I am a goan who is mostly based in Gulf but travels round the world
including India as part of my work schedule. During my trip to India,i dont
miss any oppurtunity to visit  Goa besides my regular holidays to my
hometown in GOA.

What made be write this post is the two articles on goanet_SORROW LIES MY
LAND AND START NEW REVOLUTION.I have been reading GOANET for years as it
would give me some news about Goa.But, sadly as the time pased by, i found
that it has been HIJACKED  by few individuals  who are intelligent and
literate, for mudslinging and settling their own scores instead of
contributing articles which would help GOA make a better place.My humble
plea to all those indivisuals is to forget their personal differences, pride
and ego and put up a united front, if they really care about GOA. After all
i know that all of them are passionate about goa and want the same results
but may differ on what means to adapt.

I was very young when LIBERATION took place, but remember OPINION POLL,
having carried DON PANNA- everywhere.Everybody then thought GOA would be
heaven to live in.OVER the years i could hear my fathers generations which
included HINDUS AND MUSLIMS that we were far better off in many respect
during PORTUGUESE time and you still hear it in many places.
What happened to goa after so called LIBERATION.

First of all, DELHI BABUS ruled us as their slaves.Many of them came to Goa
for one Big Holiday to Feather their own nests and look after their own kith
and kins.They didnt care about goas development as they were deputionists
and made hay whilst the sun shined and Goans were enjoying their so called
FREEDOM.

Next came the BANDODKAR ERA. He brought as many outsiders to rule goa who
had least interest in goa for precisely the same reason as the DELHI BABUS.

Then came STATEHHOD FOR GOA and we had ALL GOAN poltiticians who were
behaving same as OUTSIDERS To BECOME RICH OVERNIGHT ANY COST.AND the stoty
goes on.
SO, whats the real issues threatening goa now.

1. Corruption.It is the singlemost issue threatening the very  existence of
goa.Delhi babus and CONGRESS should get the  NOBLE PRIZE for introducing it
in GOA..It is interlinked to power.COMMUNAL card had been greatly
exacerbated during the last election and unfortunately, THE MEDIA, CHURCH
AND  LEADERS OF MOST NGOS LINKED TO GOA BACHAO ABHYAN WERE USED BY CONGRESS
TO DIVERT THE ATTENTION FROM REAL ISSUES FACING GOA
.
2. garbage. It is real menance. WHEN i was young, i did not know what
MALARIA WAS. People  are dying of this problem now.There is filth all over
and many genuine tourists are thinking twice about visiting GOA.

3. Uncontolled immigration. Lot of immigrants to goa have contributed
towards GOAS well being.THEY CAME AS VISITORS AND SETTLED IN GOA FOR ITS
UNIQUE NATURE AND CULTURE. BUT, THE MASSIVE UNCONTROLLED INFLUX OF
IMMIGRANTS IS PERPETUATED BY POLITICIANS FOR THEIR VOTE BANKS.THEY GET
RATION CARDS, WATER SUPPLY, ELECTRICITY AND HOUSING ON FREE COMMUNIDADE LAND
ON PRIORITY WHEN MOST GOANS ARE STRUGGLING.THEY HAVE OVERSTRETCHED OUR
HEALTH FACILITIES, SCHOOLS AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURES.
CRIME, PROSTITUTION, DRUGS, DISEASES AND PEOPLE DEFAECATING ALL OVER GOA IS
THE PRICE GOANS ARE PAYING FOR BEING GOOD HOSTS.

 IS  there any hope for goa? yes.Goans have come a long way since Liberation
in terms of education, knowledge,  money and the rest.WE have  to take
controls of things  ourselves. We know our problems better than any
outsiders as our culture is unique. Also, we have enough resources and
competent people  in GOA  to manage ourselves. There are thousands of GOANS
WORLDWIDE with as many talents who are more than willing to help their
motherland.THOSE WHO THINK THAT MOST NRIS COME AND ONLY ENJOY IN GOA AND DO
NOTHING ELSE  ARE MISLEADING OTHERS.DURING MY TRAVELS TO DIFFERENT PLACES, I
HAVE MET PEOPLE WHO GENUINELY WANT TO HELP BUT ARE PUT OFF BY THE DIRTY
POLITICS AND THE LACK OF INTEREST BY THE  LOCAL POPULATION ITSELF.

THE NEED OF THE HOUR IS-. COMBINE  ALL THE FORCES, IRRESPECTIVE OF CASTE,
CREED AND  RELIGION.EVEN  ALL NON-GOANS WHO ARE LONGTERM SETTLERS SHOULD
JOIN HANDS  FOR THEIR OWN INTEREST AS THEY HAVE MADE GOA THEIR HOME.FIRST,
CHANGE THE POLITICS OF GREED AND CORRUPTION  BY GETTING RID OF THEM ALL.
FORM A NEW FRONT COMPRISING OF ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT WELLBEING
OF GOA AND HAVE NO PERSONAL AGENDAS.DONT FORGET THE WORLDWIDE GOANS,COMBINED
TOGETHER, THEY ARE A MJOR FORCE TO RECKON WITH AND CAN BRING IN THEIR
WORLDWIDE EXPERTISE BESIDES FINANCIAL CLOUT.

iT IS NEVER TOO L

Re: [Goanet] Saving Goa/to Eugene

2007-04-07 Thread Carvalho

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--- Eugene Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> An oft-repeated SOS can be seen as the wailing cries
> of a society in deep crises of losing its soul.
> 
> Eugene Correia
-
Absolutely spot on Eugene. I was going to write a post
on the extremism of social activism but you beat me to
the punch.

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[Goanet] Saving Goa

2007-04-07 Thread Eugene Correia

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Barad brought the point home and Selma provided some
edge to the current phenomenon of "save" committees
and organisations.
I was to to deal with the issue when I heard that
Churchill has floated a new party called Save Goa
Democratic Front which, I believe, is now forced to be
Save Goa Front.
If one strings togetehr the "save" bodies it would
make a rosary. It would have come handy during the
Lent, with Goans using it to plead with the Lord to
save our homeland and everything that needs to be
saved as laid down by NGOs and other socio-political
groups.
Barad is partly right in saying that such bodies come
up prior to elections, like mushrooms. They come be
brought together under one giant umbrella -- SAVE
OURSELVES.
Overuse of the word "save" can only result in eroding
its true meaning and, hence, render it useless, or
worse, a joke. We could only end up becoming a
laughing stock of the rest of India.
Other states also have problems, but I think Goa beats
them all in sprouting our own brand of social
activism. Save Narmada was the rallying call and,
earlier to that, Save the Trees or rather Chipko
Movement.
An oft-repeated SOS can be seen as the wailing cries
of a society in deep crises of losing its soul.

Eugene Correia



 

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