[google-appengine] Re: Google Apps, Python C++
OpenMP running on your network of machines? Or perhaps a beowulf cluster. On Sep 24, 1:35 pm, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the best way for a calculation hungry app (video processing) which I have already in C++ to be ported to google apps? I'm no python expert but can get by but any help would be great. Ta. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Entity Group and Transactions
Hi everyone, I just want to check my general understanding of app engine datastore concepts with you guys. After reading documentations on entity group and transactions, my understanding is that entities of different kind can still be in the same group provided that they have the same ancestors(parents or parents of parents). This means I can perform transactions on entities of different kinds. For clarity, this is my understanding of app engine concepts that roughly translates to its RDBMS equivalent 1. Kind = Table (this is roughly the case, though entities of the same kind doesn't have to have the same fields) 2. Property = Field 3. Entity = A record 4. Parent and Ancestors = no equivalent but is used to group entities into a entity group which will be stored in the same nodes which enables transactional executions. But when i applied this in practice, I get an error with Cannot operate on different entity groups in a transaction. So I wonder if I've misunderstood something, Is there a way to check what entity group an entity actually belongs to? Thanks James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Entity Group and Transactions
Your understanding is correct based on my experience. As far as determining entity group I think you'll just have to examine the ancestry of each entity in your transaction to see if they actually have a common instance. On Sep 25, 11:33 pm, Jamesz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I just want to check my general understanding of app engine datastore concepts with you guys. After reading documentations on entity group and transactions, my understanding is that entities of different kind can still be in the same group provided that they have the same ancestors(parents or parents of parents). This means I can perform transactions on entities of different kinds. For clarity, this is my understanding of app engine concepts that roughly translates to its RDBMS equivalent 1. Kind = Table (this is roughly the case, though entities of the same kind doesn't have to have the same fields) 2. Property = Field 3. Entity = A record 4. Parent and Ancestors = no equivalent but is used to group entities into a entity group which will be stored in the same nodes which enables transactional executions. But when i applied this in practice, I get an error with Cannot operate on different entity groups in a transaction. So I wonder if I've misunderstood something, Is there a way to check what entity group an entity actually belongs to? Thanks James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Issue acknowledged
Hi Marzia, I think you are right, that approach is better. -Filip On 9/26/08, Marzia Niccolai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Filip, We are working hard on making the status of the issue tracker more clear, and soon we'll post something that clarifies the possible statuses in the issue tracker. In short, Acknowledged means that we've read the feature and it's under consideration from the team, though the feature may or may not be included in future releases. New sends the wrong impression - which is that we haven't read the issue at all. -Marzia On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Filip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A series of issues from the issue list were acknowledged just now. What should we conclude from this? Filip. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Problem using expando models
To reply to my own post. I've found that this has already been reported as an issue: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=633q=expandocolspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Stars%20Owner%20Summary%20Log Please star this as it seems to be a genuine bug which needs to be fixed. On 25 Sep, 00:38, gadgster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, This is probably a newbie question. I'm having problems using the expando model class. I have a model which works fine like this: class childModel(db.Model): user=db.UserProperty() forename=db.StringProperty(verbose_name=Child's forename, required=True) gender=db.StringProperty(verbose_name=Gender, choices=[Boy, Girl]) dob=db.DateProperty(verbose_name=Date of Birth) If I change this model to the db.Expando class then when I fetch an entity I get the error message BadValueError: Property dob must be a date, not a datetime. I can't see the reason for this. Any advice appreciated. Richard --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] bulk export
Hi, Sorry to piggy-back off a slightly different topic, but it may have the right audience. I am toying with a mashup of google spreadsheets and the GAE, which will partly involve pumping data back and forth. You have made me aware of the bulkloader which should be a useful way to get a lot of data into GAE, however does anybody ave a suitably efficient version of the reverse? ie getting a lot of data out of datastore in csv, without just coding it yourself? thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: bulk export
Oops! this was supposed to be a reply to bulk upload post, but the question is still valid. On Sep 26, 12:18 pm, I.K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Sorry to piggy-back off a slightly different topic, but it may have the right audience. I am toying with a mashup of google spreadsheets and the GAE, which will partly involve pumping data back and forth. You have made me aware of the bulkloader which should be a useful way to get a lot of data into GAE, however does anybody ave a suitably efficient version of the reverse? ie getting a lot of data out of datastore in csv, without just coding it yourself? thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: AppeEngine and APIs
Thanks On Sep 24, 8:01 pm, Jeff S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi lazer, Yes. This might be a good place to start:http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/usinggdataservices.html Cheers, Jeff On Sep 24, 4:20 am, lazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can we use Youtube API with AppeEngine ? Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Automatically adding a static index.html to a URL with app.yaml
Adam, Good. We'll be precise and say that the solution to this problem is to have the HTML use relative URLs based at the home directory instead of the current directory. Thanks On Sep 25, 11:23 pm, Adam Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for sanity's sake, both are relative URLs. It would only be absolute if it included the host name and protocol. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] using static_files seems broken on windows test server?
Ello, I'm trying to use the windows test server and putting anything that uses static_files into app.yaml stops the app from loading. EG adding - url: /favicon.ico static_files: static/images/favicon.ico upload: static/images/favicon.ico Gets the following C:\xix\www\googleC:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine \dev_appserver.py we t ERROR2008-09-26 15:12:42,592 dev_appserver_main.py] Application configuratio n file invalid: regex does not compile: bogus escape: '\\x' Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong? Kriss --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Safety of user input.
Hi I'm doing app and i'm concerned about sql injections from user inputs How to protect app from thoes injections? Besides, cgi.escape what else can be done? Regards --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: High Amount CPU Quota should be removed
Agree with you, man, CPU quota error is frequently for me, but just some query action for less than 100 records, for a python environment, we need more CPU power than static processing ability, so I think the way of the limitation should be adjusted. On Sep 21, 7:27 pm, mitnickcbc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have filed a feature request for this issue, if you feel so please star it. http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=720 Here is the description: Well, I don't get the purpose for having a High Amount CPU Quota since there is already a general CPU Quota. And there are quite a lot of problems caused by this quota which restrict my application from affording more load. And my application is far away from a 5 million month PV app. 1. Requests can become a high amount CPU one very easily. A little complex request will consume more than 3K mcycles. And what do I mean a little complex? If you do more than 2 put, or you do a url fetch, or you do a query based on an order to select more than 50 model, or you do a put on a model more than 20 fields, it is that complex. In my case, 80% of the requests are that complex and I don't think it can be optimized anymore since I do need to do put and url fetch. 2. Bad visibility to this quota. There is no way we can know when we will run out of quota for this. All we got is the warning in admin console that says our requests are using high amount CPU quota and will soon run out of it. 3. Doesn't back to normal quickly. I'm using a script to continue fetching my data from production and do some offline process. Unfortunately I fetch too much in one call that I try to get 100 models at a time and which makes the request a high CPU one. Soon, I meet quota deny. Then I stop my script, but after 1.5 hours, I still see quota deny for requests from my users. The Many of the requests to your application are taking a very long time. Please optimize these requests. warning keeps there even I have stopped the script for so long time. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: using static_files seems broken on windows test server?
Hi, This is an issue that was introduced in the 1.1.3 release for windows, and we are working on a fix. Please see issue http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=711 for status updates on this issue. -Marzia On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Kriss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ello, I'm trying to use the windows test server and putting anything that uses static_files into app.yaml stops the app from loading. EG adding - url: /favicon.ico static_files: static/images/favicon.ico upload: static/images/favicon.ico Gets the following C:\xix\www\googleC:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine \dev_appserver.py we t ERROR2008-09-26 15:12:42,592 dev_appserver_main.py] Application configuratio n file invalid: regex does not compile: bogus escape: '\\x' Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong? Kriss --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Entity Group and Transactions
Hi James, You can check if an entity has a parent by calling Model.parent() which will return the parent, if it exists, or None if no parent exists. For entity groups, you need to explicit set the parent of the entity when it is created. This is the only time the parent of an entity can be set. Some people have been confused about entity groups and ReferenceProperties, a reference to another property does not indicate the entity and the reference are in the same group - the two concepts are not related. As above, entity groups are only defined by setting the parent. If you post the code you are using when you receive the message, we'd be happy to help you troubleshoot the error. -Marzia On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Josh Heitzman [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Your understanding is correct based on my experience. As far as determining entity group I think you'll just have to examine the ancestry of each entity in your transaction to see if they actually have a common instance. On Sep 25, 11:33 pm, Jamesz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I just want to check my general understanding of app engine datastore concepts with you guys. After reading documentations on entity group and transactions, my understanding is that entities of different kind can still be in the same group provided that they have the same ancestors(parents or parents of parents). This means I can perform transactions on entities of different kinds. For clarity, this is my understanding of app engine concepts that roughly translates to its RDBMS equivalent 1. Kind = Table (this is roughly the case, though entities of the same kind doesn't have to have the same fields) 2. Property = Field 3. Entity = A record 4. Parent and Ancestors = no equivalent but is used to group entities into a entity group which will be stored in the same nodes which enables transactional executions. But when i applied this in practice, I get an error with Cannot operate on different entity groups in a transaction. So I wonder if I've misunderstood something, Is there a way to check what entity group an entity actually belongs to? Thanks James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Proprietary data in the Google cloud
I'm trying to get started using the new Google Apps Data on the web. I'm reading all these examples about people and businesses sharing their spreadsheets, contact info, product data, etc. And I'm looking at the Google Terms of Service, section 11, whereby we give Google the right to disseminate the data as they see fit. So, far, I see no way to store data, such as a spreadsheet containing sensitive company financial data, in an encrypted format. Do these business users realize that? When I am trying to sell a company on using this Google service (by my writing a custom app for them), how do I convince them that their data won't be on the web for all to see? I, for example, don't want all the names and email addresses in my contact app to be scanned, indexed, and popping up in the Google searches of strangers, scammers, etc. How do I secure on-line data? Thanks, Ron Cherry --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: why i cannot receive The verification code via SMS(from china)
Hi coalmine, Instructions for getting access without SMS verification can be found in our frequently asked questions page: http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/sms.html#error Thank you, Jeff On Sep 24, 6:48 am, coalmine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i used the china mobile telephone how can i start the google appengine if i cannot get the verification code? thx -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Using exec() in GAE
Hello, I could not find it in the documentation and it kind of seems to work. But please, put my worries at rest: is it ok to exec() a string in the Google App Engine? Thank you, W. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: How to pass additionap parameters to Form
can i pass any parameters with initial value ?
form = PhoneNumberForm(initial={'number':'12334'})
how i can access to initial var ?
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[google-appengine] Re: Denial of Service Attack on a GAE Application
There was a similar issue logged. The one that I created was marked as duplicate. Please *STAR* the new issue if you think it's important for you to have firewall control in your application. Firewall control is the first step towards resolving the denial of service attack problem. http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=644 Many thanks to all for your support and thanks Google for looking into this. Tony On Sep 24, 12:42 pm, Marzia Niccolai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We've identified an issue that can cause an application to hit one of our short-term quotas after a very sudden spike in traffic, which would prevent it from serving for a short time. We're currently working on a fix to address this issue and expect to have it out shortly. On the broader issue of denial-of-service attacks, these are an unfortunate reality in the web world. While we don't currently offer applications any specific protections against attacks of this nature, this is something we're interested in looking into for the future. In the near-term, when we begin allowing developers to purchase computing resources beyond our free limits, we will provide a mechanism for reimbursement in the event of a DOS attack. -Marzia On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Sharp-Developer.Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Starred - I think it's gonna be even more impotant when we get paid service. -- Alex http://sharp-developer.net/ On Sep 20, 5:31 am, Tony Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I created an issue for this request. Please star it if you feel it's important to you. http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=718 Thanks, Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: High Amount CPU Quota should be removed
On Sep 26, 1:48 am, mitnickcbc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some update about my latest findings. And these are my guesses, please do correct me if I'm wrong. The quota denial for high amount CPU and the warning message Many of the requests to your application are taking a very long time. Please optimize these requests. is calculated based on the number of warning you get in your log saying that This request used a high amount of CPU, and was roughly 1.0 times over the average request CPU limit. High CPU requests have a small quota, and if you exceed this quota, your app will be temporarily disabled. Please note, the average CPU usage and related warning are very misleading. The mcycles value displayed in log is also very different from the x.x times value showed in warning message. I used to think that request using beyond 1800 mcycles CPU will be considered as a high CPU request since it shows red in Average CPU column. But the latest finding is that it's not the case. One kind of my requests use about 6K-7K mcycles in average CPU, but I seldom see a high CPU warning in log for them. Again, this mcycles value seems to mean nothing and the algorithm used to calculate the x.x times high CPU warning really matters! As you have noticed, there are differences in the CPU usage measurements presented in the logs and in the dashboard. This thread contains clarification which I've copied below: http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_frm/thread/f210131b359b8fe6 Concerning CPU accounting overall - The warning threshold for the logs and for the dashboard actually differ. In the logs, warnings will only occur for high runtime CPU. The warnings on the dashboard are triggered for high overall CPU, including CPU used in the runtime and per API, most notably being the datastore API. Request denials for high CPU are based on the runtime CPU usage (which does not include the CPU used in API calls). Since the runtime CPU cost are the ones present in the logs, it is more useful to rely on the log information when trying to determine how best to reduce CPU load for specific requests. Happy coding, Jeff With this in mind, the focus is back to the warning message itself to figure out what's the algorithm. So there is an average request CPU limit in this message. This value seems to be quite big and only my requests that are doing some work which should be done by a background scheduler exceeds it. The question is, is this a fixed value? Or a dynamic value calculated based on all apps? Or a dynamic value calculated based on the app itself? And the number of such warnings has a fixed quota that doesn't scale with other quotas. If all my assumption is right here, the best option to solve this issue in my mind is to make the high CPU quota scale as other quotas. On Sep 26, 1:22 am, mitnickcbc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone has any idea how this warning message is calculated? Many of the requests to your application are taking a very long time. Please optimize these requests. It seems I meet quota denials every time this one shows up. I'm unable to tune anymore if I don't know how it is calculated. There are several possible algorithms for this in my mind and I need to know which one is used to be able to move forward: 1. Based on the total number of high CPU requests in a certain period of time. And what's the CPU usage value to make a request counted in? 1200 mcycles? 1800, or anything else? 2. Based on total CPU consumed by these high CPU. 3. Based on response time. However, no matter how much I tuned, it's just about time for me to reach the load limit. Since 30% of my write requests will never possible to fit the current high CPU bar. It also seems that the high CPU quota is not increased with the other quota. So say assume 10% of your requests are high CPU ones, and GAE only allows 1 high CPU request per second, then you will not be able to scale beyond 10 requests per second, no matter how much CPU quota you have. There are 3 solutions in my mind: 1. Raise the high CPU bar to fit real world needs like raising it to 10K mcycles. 2. Make the high amount CPU quota scalable and configurable instead of a fixed number. Such as making it 30% of normal CPU quota. However, I would still suggest to not even fix the percentage since every application is different. Better to make it configurable by developer themselves. 3. Make high amount CPU quota same as other quotas like CPU and bandwidth. So developer can apply for it if they are running out of it. I'm not sure which one is more doable to GAE, but there must be some solution to be happen otherwise it will not scale. On Sep 21, 7:27 pm,mitnickcbc[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have filed a feature request for this issue, if you feel so please star it. http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=720 Here is the description:
[google-appengine] Re: Using exec() in GAE
Do you mean eval() ? If so, yes. On Sep 26, 12:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I could not find it in the documentation and it kind of seems to work. But please, put my worries at rest: is it ok to exec() a string in the Google App Engine? Thank you, W. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Google Moderator -- Source code?
Is the source code for Google Moderator available? If so where/when? I'm working on some overlapping ideas with an org called DemocracyLab (www.democracylab.org) on the google app engine, and it might be useful to consider technical collaboration on some such work. Is such collaboration possible/available? Thanks, Scott --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: SearchableQuery and OffSet
Can you do:
query.Search(keyword).filter(name , index)
where index, is the name (or whatever you're searchijng for) of the
last person on the current page?
On Sep 23, 12:12 pm, Venkatesh Rangarajan
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Folks,
I am trying to implement pagination for Search able model.
I will eventually have around 1 GB of DB .
query = search.SearchableQuery('Person')
query.Search(keyword)
visas=query.Get(100,1)
Now Get doesn't take OFFSET as a parameter. Fetch is not implemented for
SearchablQuery . Any ideas on how I can implement pagination for such a
scenario.
Rgds,
Venkatesh
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[google-appengine] Re: High Amount CPU Quota should be removed
Only one question, I wonder how much CPU of google is spent in calculating high amount coutas. Pherahaps google should assign our application that cpu time. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Dealing with lots of data -- any tips?
If you're trying to infer some type of statistical information from the dataset after it has been stored, then this might be difficult, especially in the absence of background/offline processing. However, here is something you might want to try, for the particular scenario you describe: 1. Create an indexable property for each entity/entry as you store it. Looking at your data, it looks like the timestamp is sufficient, because each entry has a unique timestamp so you won't have to worry about breaking ties. 2. You now want to fetch 1000 entities at known intervals. So extrapolate the timestamps of where those entities fall and fetch them. Unfortunately, this means that you have to make 1000 queries (I believe the datastore queues queries up, to a max of 35), so you might have to do this in multiple requests, and append the entities you fetch each time to a list. On Sep 25, 11:46 am, Savraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I have stored some data in the app-engine database, with new data every 5 seconds. example dataset: ID - Time - Value 1 - 9/20/2008 16:00:00 - 100 2 - 9/20/2008 16:00:05 - 120 3 - 9/20/2008 16:00:10 - 130 4 - 9/20/2008 16:00:15 - 250 ... 17278 - 9/21/2008 15:59:60 - 200 17279 - 9/21/2008 15:59:55 - 100 17280 - 9/21/2008 16:00:00 - 220 How do I get just 1000 values back that cover the entire recorded period, so I can put them in a chart? What sort of query should I construct? I imagine it's something like, 'give me every 20th value' -- but how do I express than in a query? Thanks in advance for your kindness and consideration. - s --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] XML file not rendered correctly when live
I have a simple xml file that outputs the following when it is run locally: ?xml version=1.0 ? cross-domain-policy allow-access-from domain=* / site-control permitted-cross-domain-policies=all / /cross-domain-policy When it is live, the first line is removed: cross-domain-policy allow-access-from domain=* / site-control permitted-cross-domain-policies=all / /cross-domain-policy What can I do to get this to render properly? Is there someway I should be setting the content type of the file? This is the code for crossdomain.py: str = ?xml version=\1.0\? cross-domain-policy allow-access-from domain=\*\ / site-control permitted-cross-domain-policies=\all\/ /cross-domain-policy print str and I've entered this to app.yaml - url: /crossdomain.xml script: crossdomain.py --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Dealing with lots of data -- any tips?
Thanks for the reply Mahmoud.Your proposal is good, but yes it does mean I would make many queries which could be time consuming. Another alternative I'm considering is simply trading space for time -- that is, on save of a new data point, save out some averages for broader periods (min, hour, day, etc). This way I could get fewer points back, if I just look at hourly averages over 3 days... Thanks again. -s On Sep 26, 3:03 pm, Mahmoud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're trying to infer some type of statistical information from the dataset after it has been stored, then this might be difficult, especially in the absence of background/offline processing. However, here is something you might want to try, for the particular scenario you describe: 1. Create an indexable property for each entity/entry as you store it. Looking at your data, it looks like the timestamp is sufficient, because each entry has a unique timestamp so you won't have to worry about breaking ties. 2. You now want to fetch 1000 entities at known intervals. So extrapolate the timestamps of where those entities fall and fetch them. Unfortunately, this means that you have to make 1000 queries (I believe the datastore queues queries up, to a max of 35), so you might have to do this in multiple requests, and append the entities you fetch each time to a list. On Sep 25, 11:46 am, Savraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I have stored some data in the app-engine database, with new data every 5 seconds. example dataset: ID - Time - Value 1 - 9/20/2008 16:00:00 - 100 2 - 9/20/2008 16:00:05 - 120 3 - 9/20/2008 16:00:10 - 130 4 - 9/20/2008 16:00:15 - 250 ... 17278 - 9/21/2008 15:59:60 - 200 17279 - 9/21/2008 15:59:55 - 100 17280 - 9/21/2008 16:00:00 - 220 How do I get just 1000 values back that cover the entire recorded period, so I can put them in a chart? What sort of query should I construct? I imagine it's something like, 'give me every 20th value' -- but how do I express than in a query? Thanks in advance for your kindness and consideration. - s --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Getting key value of db.ReferenceProperty
Is there a way to get the key (or id) value of a db.ReferenceProperty, without dereferencing the actual entity it points to? I have been digging around - it looks like the key is stored as the property name preceeded with an _, but I have been unable to get any code working. Examples would be much appreciated. Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: SearchableQuery and OffSet
Thanks Mahmoud. My bad..i was able to pass offset as a parameter
See the pagination in action here :
http://payrate.appspot.com/?keyword=Google%20Engineerpage=100
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Mahmoud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you do:
query.Search(keyword).filter(name , index)
where index, is the name (or whatever you're searchijng for) of the
last person on the current page?
On Sep 23, 12:12 pm, Venkatesh Rangarajan
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Folks,
I am trying to implement pagination for Search able model.
I will eventually have around 1 GB of DB .
query = search.SearchableQuery('Person')
query.Search(keyword)
visas=query.Get(100,1)
Now Get doesn't take OFFSET as a parameter. Fetch is not implemented for
SearchablQuery . Any ideas on how I can implement pagination for such a
scenario.
Rgds,
Venkatesh
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[google-appengine] Re: XML file not rendered correctly when live
It wouldn't display anything. I had to view the source to see the output. Serving it as a static file fixed the problem. Thanks On Sep 26, 5:11 pm, Anthony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems strange that it would be removed.. are you viewing the output in the FF xml view? Try a view source. Anyhow have you tried serving it as a static file... e.g. - url: /crossdomain.xml static_files: static/crossdomain.xml upload: static/crossdomain.xml On Sep 26, 8:15 pm, abowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a simple xml file that outputs the following when it is run locally: ?xml version=1.0 ? cross-domain-policy allow-access-from domain=* / site-control permitted-cross-domain-policies=all / /cross-domain-policy When it is live, the first line is removed: cross-domain-policy allow-access-from domain=* / site-control permitted-cross-domain-policies=all / /cross-domain-policy What can I do to get this to render properly? Is there someway I should be setting the content type of the file? This is the code for crossdomain.py: str = ?xml version=\1.0\? cross-domain-policy allow-access-from domain=\*\ / site-control permitted-cross-domain-policies=\all\/ /cross-domain-policy print str and I've entered this to app.yaml - url: /crossdomain.xml script: crossdomain.py --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Facebook Apps powered by App Engine
Hello everyone. There is a new Google Group for discusing developing Facebook Applications powered by Google App Engine. Stop by and say hi if you're playing with these two new techs. http://groups.google.com/group/facebook-and-google-app-engine --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Dynamic db.Model classes ?
I'm not going to make any claims to being a python expert, nor is this a trivial question. What I want to do is have the ability to have an abstract interface for table contruction -- think UI where you can say add field ... type String. Once you've specified the database table format from the UI, would like to take advatange of the non-tightly structured database underlying App Engine. What I would like to have is a class like: GenericTable(db.Model) def __init__(self, tbl) : ... def __getattr__(self, name) : for purposes of example... So in my view code I can say: tbl = GenericTable(books) items = tbl.all() for item in items : ...something interesting... ...with the ability to say item['price'] -- via the above __getattr__ Hopefully this gives you a good idea of intent, where things are getting muddled up is I'm not sure if it's better to extend db.Model / db.PropertiedClass or build something totally new from the ground up... Anybody tried this before, or maybe has some good pointers on what is a better course of action? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Only Once per user
Hi, i want to save some settings for each user, and the way i'm doing it so far is title = self.request.get(title) result = UsersSettings.gql(WHERE owner=:1, users.get_current_user().nickname()) if result.count() == 0: result = UsersSettings() result.title = title result.owner = users.get_current_user().nickname() db.put(result) What i want to do is create it if it doesnt exists or else modify it, but i cant figure out why it does not modify it, it creates it but i cannot modify it :( -- Best Regards. fedekun --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: High Amount CPU Quota should be removed
Request denials for high CPU are based on the runtime CPU usage (which does not include the CPU used in API calls). Since the runtime CPU cost are the ones present in the logs, it is more useful to rely on the log information when trying to determine how best to reduce CPU load for specific requests. Thanks for the clarification! Now I'm able to find the bottleneck and... it scales! On Sep 27, 2:00 am, Jeff S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 26, 1:48 am, mitnickcbc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some update about my latest findings. And these are my guesses, please do correct me if I'm wrong. The quota denial for high amount CPU and the warning message Many of the requests to your application are taking a very long time. Please optimize these requests. is calculated based on the number of warning you get in your log saying that This request used a high amount of CPU, and was roughly 1.0 times over the average request CPU limit. High CPU requests have a small quota, and if you exceed this quota, your app will be temporarily disabled. Please note, the average CPU usage and related warning are very misleading. The mcycles value displayed in log is also very different from the x.x times value showed in warning message. I used to think that request using beyond 1800 mcycles CPU will be considered as a high CPU request since it shows red in Average CPU column. But the latest finding is that it's not the case. One kind of my requests use about 6K-7K mcycles in average CPU, but I seldom see a high CPU warning in log for them. Again, this mcycles value seems to mean nothing and the algorithm used to calculate the x.x times high CPU warning really matters! As you have noticed, there are differences in the CPU usage measurements presented in the logs and in the dashboard. This thread contains clarification which I've copied below: http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_frm/thread/f21... Concerning CPU accounting overall - The warning threshold for the logs and for the dashboard actually differ. In the logs, warnings will only occur for high runtime CPU. The warnings on the dashboard are triggered for high overall CPU, including CPU used in the runtime and per API, most notably being the datastore API. Request denials for high CPU are based on the runtime CPU usage (which does not include the CPU used in API calls). Since the runtime CPU cost are the ones present in the logs, it is more useful to rely on the log information when trying to determine how best to reduce CPU load for specific requests. Happy coding, Jeff With this in mind, the focus is back to the warning message itself to figure out what's the algorithm. So there is an average request CPU limit in this message. This value seems to be quite big and only my requests that are doing some work which should be done by a background scheduler exceeds it. The question is, is this a fixed value? Or a dynamic value calculated based on all apps? Or a dynamic value calculated based on the app itself? And the number of such warnings has a fixed quota that doesn't scale with other quotas. If all my assumption is right here, the best option to solve this issue in my mind is to make the high CPU quota scale as other quotas. On Sep 26, 1:22 am, mitnickcbc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone has any idea how this warning message is calculated? Many of the requests to your application are taking a very long time. Please optimize these requests. It seems I meet quota denials every time this one shows up. I'm unable to tune anymore if I don't know how it is calculated. There are several possible algorithms for this in my mind and I need to know which one is used to be able to move forward: 1. Based on the total number of high CPU requests in a certain period of time. And what's the CPU usage value to make a request counted in? 1200 mcycles? 1800, or anything else? 2. Based on total CPU consumed by these high CPU. 3. Based on response time. However, no matter how much I tuned, it's just about time for me to reach the load limit. Since 30% of my write requests will never possible to fit the current high CPU bar. It also seems that the high CPU quota is not increased with the other quota. So say assume 10% of your requests are high CPU ones, and GAE only allows 1 high CPU request per second, then you will not be able to scale beyond 10 requests per second, no matter how much CPU quota you have. There are 3 solutions in my mind: 1. Raise the high CPU bar to fit real world needs like raising it to 10K mcycles. 2. Make the high amount CPU quota scalable and configurable instead of a fixed number. Such as making it 30% of normal CPU quota. However, I would still suggest to not even fix the percentage since every application is different. Better to make it configurable by developer
[google-appengine] Re: High Amount CPU Quota should be removed
mitnick, Can you explain more fully what the problem was, and how you were able to debug the problem once you knew to look at the logs vs the dashboard? After all the back and forth on the high cpu quota issue, I am curious about the particulars. Right now, this is how I understand it: Warnings in the logs are based solely on the CPU used in Non API calls - so if I had a request that did nothing but try to factor a really large prime, I would probably get a lot of these warnings, and they would also trigger dashboard warnings? Warnings in the dashboard include CPU used in API calls, so if I had a request that did nothing but complicated datastore calls, it would get a dashboard warning, but *not* a log warning? If that's the case, I am guessing you (mitnick) had a request that was using a lot of runtime CPU but not necessarily a lot of API time? On Sep 26, 8:55 pm, mitnickcbc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Request denials for high CPU are based on the runtime CPU usage (which does not include the CPU used in API calls). Since the runtime CPU cost are the ones present in the logs, it is more useful to rely on the log information when trying to determine how best to reduce CPU load for specific requests. Thanks for the clarification! Now I'm able to find the bottleneck and... it scales! On Sep 27, 2:00 am, Jeff S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 26, 1:48 am, mitnickcbc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some update about my latest findings. And these are my guesses, please do correct me if I'm wrong. The quota denial for high amount CPU and the warning message Many of the requests to your application are taking a very long time. Please optimize these requests. is calculated based on the number of warning you get in your log saying that This request used a high amount of CPU, and was roughly 1.0 times over the average request CPU limit. High CPU requests have a small quota, and if you exceed this quota, your app will be temporarily disabled. Please note, the average CPU usage and related warning are very misleading. The mcycles value displayed in log is also very different from the x.x times value showed in warning message. I used to think that request using beyond 1800 mcycles CPU will be considered as a high CPU request since it shows red in Average CPU column. But the latest finding is that it's not the case. One kind of my requests use about 6K-7K mcycles in average CPU, but I seldom see a high CPU warning in log for them. Again, this mcycles value seems to mean nothing and the algorithm used to calculate the x.x times high CPU warning really matters! As you have noticed, there are differences in the CPU usage measurements presented in the logs and in the dashboard. This thread contains clarification which I've copied below: http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_frm/thread/f21... Concerning CPU accounting overall - The warning threshold for the logs and for the dashboard actually differ. In the logs, warnings will only occur for high runtime CPU. The warnings on the dashboard are triggered for high overall CPU, including CPU used in the runtime and per API, most notably being the datastore API. Request denials for high CPU are based on the runtime CPU usage (which does not include the CPU used in API calls). Since the runtime CPU cost are the ones present in the logs, it is more useful to rely on the log information when trying to determine how best to reduce CPU load for specific requests. Happy coding, Jeff With this in mind, the focus is back to the warning message itself to figure out what's the algorithm. So there is an average request CPU limit in this message. This value seems to be quite big and only my requests that are doing some work which should be done by a background scheduler exceeds it. The question is, is this a fixed value? Or a dynamic value calculated based on all apps? Or a dynamic value calculated based on the app itself? And the number of such warnings has a fixed quota that doesn't scale with other quotas. If all my assumption is right here, the best option to solve this issue in my mind is to make the high CPU quota scale as other quotas. On Sep 26, 1:22 am, mitnickcbc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone has any idea how this warning message is calculated? Many of the requests to your application are taking a very long time. Please optimize these requests. It seems I meet quota denials every time this one shows up. I'm unable to tune anymore if I don't know how it is calculated. There are several possible algorithms for this in my mind and I need to know which one is used to be able to move forward: 1. Based on the total number of high CPU requests in a certain period of time. And what's the CPU usage value to make a request counted in? 1200 mcycles? 1800, or anything else?
[google-appengine] Re: Dynamic db.Model classes ?
Have you looked at the class db.Expando. That has the ability to create dynamic properties. But it sounds like you want to have runtime determined kinds. In this case, expando is not what you need. Take a look at datastore.Entity, which is what underlies the Model classes, as it has the precise interface you are indicating below. Please be warned, however, that the Entity class is not documented and you may not be able to get support for it. I might be able to answer a couple of questions if that's the route you would like to choose, but it's not officially supported. On Sep 26, 4:19 pm, koblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not going to make any claims to being a python expert, nor is this a trivial question. What I want to do is have the ability to have an abstract interface for table contruction -- think UI where you can say add field ... type String. Once you've specified the database table format from the UI, would like to take advatange of the non-tightly structured database underlying App Engine. What I would like to have is a class like: GenericTable(db.Model) def __init__(self, tbl) : ... def __getattr__(self, name) : for purposes of example... So in my view code I can say: tbl = GenericTable(books) items = tbl.all() for item in items : ...something interesting... ...with the ability to say item['price'] -- via the above __getattr__ Hopefully this gives you a good idea of intent, where things are getting muddled up is I'm not sure if it's better to extend db.Model / db.PropertiedClass or build something totally new from the ground up... Anybody tried this before, or maybe has some good pointers on what is a better course of action? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] SUM and COUNT for too many possibilities of result sets
I know aggregates have been discussed a lot already and that the way to do it is at write time. However my application is a full text search engine where each keyword produces a different result set. I need to report the sum and count for the entities in a given result set. Example: search a datastore of Contract entities where a Contract model has an attribute contract_value. I need to get sum(contract_value) for all the entities for the search. How would you do this? Writing a count and sum for each possible search keyword is mind boggling. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Google Moderator -- Source code?
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[google-appengine] Re: Who would post a detailed app with testcases powered by gaeunit?
You can see a few examples in the sample app I recently added to GAEUnit: http://code.google.com/p/gaeunit/source/browse/#svn/trunk/sample_app ++Steve On Sep 25, 10:31 pm, GAEFans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, some testcases for '%google_appengine_home%\demos \guestbook'. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Release of AppEngine 1.1.4 SDK
Hello, This evening we have released the AppEngine 1.1.4 SDK. It addresses some of the problems that Windows users have had with static files on dev_appserver. If you are working on Windows and an existing application started telling you something like the following message, this fix is for you: configuration file invalid: regex does not compile: bogus escape: '\\xa' You can download it from the project site here: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/downloads/list - Rafe Kaplan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Dashboard : some requests are not counted
Hi, In the Dashboard, some requests are not counted and there is a big difference between the number I can count in the log (option, show the requests) and the number of request counted in the Dashboard (in the table ; URI, req/min,...) Currently my Dashboad show the Requests last 23 hrs, so it is very easy to compare. Regards --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
