[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-08 Thread conman

Davel63, are you also using appengine patch?


On 8 Feb., 04:48, Devel63 danstic...@gmail.com wrote:
 We see the same thing, and just converted to Django.  Sounds like it
 may be related to Django.

 On Feb 7, 11:09 am, johnP j...@thinkwave.com wrote:

  No solution - just gathering information.  Looking more closely at the
  logs where the errors occur, the deadline exceeded pops up somewhere
  while loading and patching django.  This started a couple days ago.
  Maybe it'll go away?

  Oh well - I'm gonna enjoy the rest of the weekend, and will come back
  to this on Monday.  :)

  johnP

  On Feb 7, 10:59 am, conman constantin.christm...@googlemail.com
  wrote:

   Yea, I am using appengine patch too and in my logs are a lot deadline
   exceeded errors which result from
   request on very simple pages without any datastore operations.

   But what's the problem? I have the feeling app engine is lagging at
   this time of the day but that may be a oversimplification...
   What's your solution to that problem - or are you just igoring it?

   Constantin

   On 7 Feb., 19:37, johnP j...@thinkwave.com wrote:

I saw similar issues (with a google-issued, non-customized 500
deadline exceeded error).  I'm using appengine patch, and saw a large
increase in zipimporter calls.  It seemed like a large number of
requests were reloading the entire Django environment (and maybe doing
so more slowly than usual...) which resulted in periodic deadline
exceeded errors on very simple pages.    Sound possible?

johnP

On Feb 7, 9:29 am, conman constantin.christm...@googlemail.com
wrote:

 It's happening again!!

 Our site is not accessible but instead showing a google 500 server
 error page!!!

 The whole day everything worked normal but in the early evening
 (Germany/Europe) or forenoon (PST) the serving of the site is broken
 again - and I definitively didn't change anything today!

 Yesterday at the same time of the day app engine had the exact same
 problem:http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...

 What's up with that and where can I report this error so someone at
 google will look into that?

 Regards,
 Constantin
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[google-appengine] Re: prepopulate form fields according to http get parameters

2009-02-08 Thread Alexander Kojevnikov

On Feb 8, 6:56 pm, niklasr nikla...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm looking for template tags or similar that according to http get
 request parameters set the corresponding html form fields. To achieve
 the selection of an html option and populate a textfield according to
 the http request parameters where http get with two parameters should
 prepopulate a textfield and the option selected in my html form /main?
 q=foow=2 should set the textfield to 'foo' and the select option 2 to
 state selected. I saw no template tag that directly tests or handles a
 http get parameter but there probably is, for a more direct and
 favorable way than passing the request parameters and testing option
 by option
  select
 ...
 {% ifequal w 2 %}
 option selected  value=applesApples/option
 {% else %}
 option value=applesApples/option
  {% endifequal %}
 ...
 Thank you
 Niklas

This is normally done using Django forms:
http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/forms/

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[google-appengine] Re: does GAE have pycrypto?

2009-02-08 Thread jonasgalvez

But surely it should available to GAE users since it used by GAE
itself, shouldn't it?

--Jonas Galvez

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Alexander Kojevnikov
alexan...@kojevnikov.com wrote:

 On Feb 8, 8:23 am, Anthony acca...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, that's what I've been doing locally.  So I suppose when I
 deploy to the GAE server, I should bundle all non-standard libraries
 with my application files?

 Yes, as long as they are pure-Python libraries. If a library uses C
 extensions, you cannot run it on App Engine:
 http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/runtime.html#Pure_Python

 


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[google-appengine] Re: prepopulate form fields according to http get parameters

2009-02-08 Thread niklasr



On Feb 8, 10:11 am, Alexander Kojevnikov alexan...@kojevnikov.com
wrote:
 On Feb 8, 6:56 pm, niklasr nikla...@gmail.com wrote:



  I'm looking for template tags or similar that according to http get
  request parameters set the corresponding html form fields. To achieve
  the selection of an html option and populate a textfield according to
  the http request parameters where http get with two parameters should
  prepopulate a textfield and the option selected in my html form /main?
  q=foow=2 should set the textfield to 'foo' and the select option 2 to
  state selected. I saw no template tag that directly tests or handles a
  http get parameter but there probably is, for a more direct and
  favorable way than passing the request parameters and testing option
  by option
   select
  ...
  {% ifequal w 2 %}
  option selected  value=applesApples/option
  {% else %}
  option value=applesApples/option
   {% endifequal %}
  ...
  Thank you
  Niklas

 This is normally done using Django 
 forms:http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/forms/
Many thanks. I understand
google.appengine.ext.db.djangoforms.ModelForm or django.forms.Form or
just loop the options and set the selected, if only there was an
optionFromQuery value:
{% for currentOption in allOptions %} option
value={currentOption} {% ifequal currentOption optionFromQuery %}
selected{% endifequal %}{currentOption}/option{% endfor %}
Best regards
Niklas
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[google-appengine] Re: Inconsistency between dev_server and production server on sharded counter behaviour.

2009-02-08 Thread djidjadji

If you have different behavior on dev_appserver and the production
server you should file a bug report in the issue list

http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/list

At least dev_appserver should report the transaction problem the same
as production.
dev_appserver has code to check for multiple entity groups but it
might miss your situation.
(if you find the bug yourself, don't mention the solution in the issue
report, it won't be part of dev_appserver unless you sign an
agreement, then we have to patch dev_appserver ourself each time there
is a new version)

2009/2/7 Qian Qiao qian.q...@gmail.com:
 The code in my original email worked in dev_appserver, which I suppose
 is incorrect.

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[google-appengine] Re: urlfetch problem

2009-02-08 Thread djidjadji

Did you use urllib.urlencode() to construct the parameter part

url = 'http://server/index.php'
url_fields = { 'auth': authstring }
url_fields = urllib.urlencode(url_fields)
result = urlfetch.fetch(url+'?'+url_fields)

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[google-appengine] Re: Django 500's and Error Reporting

2009-02-08 Thread Tony Andrews

I ran into this when I ported from webapp to Django (1.0). I looked
into the problem and found that adding DEBUG_PROPAGATE_EXCEPTIONS =
True to settings.py solved the problem.

Tony

On Feb 7, 7:46 pm, Devel63 danstic...@gmail.com wrote:
 We wanted the i18n features (gettext, trans).

 On Feb 7, 2:43 pm, David Symonds dsymo...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Devel63 danstic...@gmail.com wrote:
   I'll look into this, but I think one reason we went with 0.96 is that
   it's already included in GAE, so we don't have to upload any files,
   have them counted against our file count limit, etc.

  So why not just use the webapp framework as well, then? Is there
  something in particular that it doesn't do for you?

  Dave.
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[google-appengine] QueryIterator Error

2009-02-08 Thread Davide Ferrero

From 2 two days my applications fall in error in every pages. I don't
have modified nothing from 1 week and three days ago my application
works correctly.. this is the error log:

#
  02-08 07:24AM 44.966 / 500 194ms 139ms-cpu 0kb
  See details
  79.50.168.248 - - [08/Feb/2009:07:24:45 -0800] GET / HTTP/1.1
500 104 - -
  E 02-08 07:24AM 45.081

  'Query' object has no attribute '_Query__query_sets'
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/webapp/
__init__.py, line 498, in __call__
  handler.get(*groups)
File /base/data/home/apps/sbook/1.331254528912766865/
main.py, line 89, in get
  tags=Cloud.tagCloud()
File /base/data/home/apps/sbook/1.331254528912766865/
main.py, line 173, in tagCloud
  for q in q1:
File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/db/
__init__.py, line 1336, in __iter__
  return self.run()
File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/db/
__init__.py, line 1328, in run
  return _QueryIterator(self._model_class, iter(self._get_query
().Run()))
File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/db/
__init__.py, line 1547, in _get_query
  for query_set in self.__query_sets:
  AttributeError: 'Query' object has no attribute
'_Query__query_sets'

Thanks


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[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-08 Thread Mike Wesner

I think our app was running into this issue also.

We are using our own django and parts of the appengine helper patch.
I would see 500 errors, deadlineexceeded but the exception is thrown
in the django, helper or pyamf (in our case we use pyamf to process
the requests from a flex/flash client) code which was even before any
datastore operations or much else ran.

The question is.  How do you set it up so that django/helper are
cached imports?

If you import things in main.py (where our main method is) does that
keep things in memory?

The docs seem to be pretty light on details about how to do this.

-Mike


On Feb 8, 3:19 am, conman constantin.christm...@googlemail.com
wrote:
 Davel63, are you also using appengine patch?

 On 8 Feb., 04:48, Devel63 danstic...@gmail.com wrote:

  We see the same thing, and just converted to Django.  Sounds like it
  may be related to Django.

  On Feb 7, 11:09 am, johnP j...@thinkwave.com wrote:

   No solution - just gathering information.  Looking more closely at the
   logs where the errors occur, the deadline exceeded pops up somewhere
   while loading and patching django.  This started a couple days ago.
   Maybe it'll go away?

   Oh well - I'm gonna enjoy the rest of the weekend, and will come back
   to this on Monday.  :)

   johnP

   On Feb 7, 10:59 am, conman constantin.christm...@googlemail.com
   wrote:

Yea, I am using appengine patch too and in my logs are a lot deadline
exceeded errors which result from
request on very simple pages without any datastore operations.

But what's the problem? I have the feeling app engine is lagging at
this time of the day but that may be a oversimplification...
What's your solution to that problem - or are you just igoring it?

Constantin

On 7 Feb., 19:37, johnP j...@thinkwave.com wrote:

 I saw similar issues (with a google-issued, non-customized 500
 deadline exceeded error).  I'm using appengine patch, and saw a large
 increase in zipimporter calls.  It seemed like a large number of
 requests were reloading the entire Django environment (and maybe doing
 so more slowly than usual...) which resulted in periodic deadline
 exceeded errors on very simple pages.    Sound possible?

 johnP

 On Feb 7, 9:29 am, conman constantin.christm...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

  It's happening again!!

  Our site is not accessible but instead showing a google 500 server
  error page!!!

  The whole day everything worked normal but in the early evening
  (Germany/Europe) or forenoon (PST) the serving of the site is broken
  again - and I definitively didn't change anything today!

  Yesterday at the same time of the day app engine had the exact same
  problem:http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...

  What's up with that and where can I report this error so someone at
  google will look into that?

  Regards,
  Constantin


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[google-appengine] Re: Generating cryptographically strong random numbers

2009-02-08 Thread Alexander Konovalenko

I filed a request for a well-documented cryptographically strong
random number generator, or at least a quality entropy source:

http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1055

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[google-appengine] Re: Django 500's and Error Reporting

2009-02-08 Thread Devel63

It didn't work for me, but gave me a clue.  As part of experiment, I
deleted the DEBUG=True line from settings.py, and the stack trace did
start appearing in the Console window.  True, it was complaining about
not having an error template, but it also showed me the actual cause
of the originating error.  Progress!

Back under the original, correct settings, I stepped through the
process of raising an error, and at line 131 in debug.py the system
raises an exception while raising an exception.  That's why I get the
silent 500 failure.  On almost anything: missing variable, undefined
member function, datastore put missing a required value, etc.  In some
circumstances it does, work though!

Any ideas as to how to get stack traces to show up reliably in the
browser, or even just print on the console?


On Feb 8, 7:18 am, Tony Andrews crewn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I ran into this when I ported from webapp to Django (1.0). I looked
 into the problem and found that adding DEBUG_PROPAGATE_EXCEPTIONS =
 True to settings.py solved the problem.

 Tony

 On Feb 7, 7:46 pm, Devel63 danstic...@gmail.com wrote:

  We wanted the i18n features (gettext, trans).

  On Feb 7, 2:43 pm, David Symonds dsymo...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Devel63 danstic...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll look into this, but I think one reason we went with 0.96 is that
it's already included in GAE, so we don't have to upload any files,
have them counted against our file count limit, etc.

   So why not just use the webapp framework as well, then? Is there
   something in particular that it doesn't do for you?

   Dave.
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[google-appengine] Re: App engine problems

2009-02-08 Thread Devel63

Again this morning.  Here is an interesting log report, showing the
Django loading issue (note that it times out without really taking
much cpu resources)

   1.
  02-08 12:03PM 01.519 /hint/request 500 9025ms 672ms-cpu 1kb
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/
2009011913 Firefox/3.0.6,gzip(gfe)
  See details

  E 02-08 12:03PM 10.534

  class 'google.appengine.runtime.DeadlineExceededError':
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File /base/data/home/apps/judysapps/5.331236991686126139/
main.py, line 64, in module
  main()
File /base/data/home/apps/judysapps/5.331236991686126139/
main.py, line 61, in main
  util.run_wsgi_app(application)
File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/webapp/
util.py, line 76, in run_wsgi_app
  result = application(env, _start_response)
File /base/python_lib/versions/1/django/core/handlers/
wsgi.py, line 189, in __call__
  response = self.get_response(request)
File /base/python_lib/versions/1/django/core/handlers/
base.py, line 110, in get_response
  from django.views import debug
File /base/python_lib/versions/1/django/views/debug.py, line
3, in module
  from django.utils.html import escape
File /base/python_lib/versions/1/django/utils/html.py, line
1, in module
  HTML utilities suitable for global use.



On Feb 7, 1:58 am, conman constantin.christm...@googlemail.com
wrote:
 The error report 
 onhttp://code.google.com/status/appengine/detail/serving/2009/02/06#ae-...
 from yesterday 11:00 am talks about a memcache problem which 'didn't
 affect the perfomance or uptime of applications'

 I hope this problem was the reason for the heavy error rate of our
 application but then this statement is not quite true!

 But most importantly the problem seems to be solved and everything is
 back to normal :)

 Regards,
 Constantin
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[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-08 Thread conman

And why occurres the error only at some time of the day?

On 8 Feb., 18:21, Mike Wesner m...@konsole.net wrote:
 I think our app was running into this issue also.

 We are using our own django and parts of the appengine helper patch.
 I would see 500 errors, deadlineexceeded but the exception is thrown
 in the django, helper or pyamf (in our case we use pyamf to process
 the requests from a flex/flash client) code which was even before any
 datastore operations or much else ran.

 The question is.  How do you set it up so that django/helper are
 cached imports?

 If you import things in main.py (where our main method is) does that
 keep things in memory?

 The docs seem to be pretty light on details about how to do this.

 -Mike

 On Feb 8, 3:19 am, conman constantin.christm...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

  Davel63, are you also using appengine patch?

  On 8 Feb., 04:48, Devel63 danstic...@gmail.com wrote:

   We see the same thing, and just converted to Django.  Sounds like it
   may be related to Django.

   On Feb 7, 11:09 am, johnP j...@thinkwave.com wrote:

No solution - just gathering information.  Looking more closely at the
logs where the errors occur, the deadline exceeded pops up somewhere
while loading and patching django.  This started a couple days ago.
Maybe it'll go away?

Oh well - I'm gonna enjoy the rest of the weekend, and will come back
to this on Monday.  :)

johnP

On Feb 7, 10:59 am, conman constantin.christm...@googlemail.com
wrote:

 Yea, I am using appengine patch too and in my logs are a lot deadline
 exceeded errors which result from
 request on very simple pages without any datastore operations.

 But what's the problem? I have the feeling app engine is lagging at
 this time of the day but that may be a oversimplification...
 What's your solution to that problem - or are you just igoring it?

 Constantin

 On 7 Feb., 19:37, johnP j...@thinkwave.com wrote:

  I saw similar issues (with a google-issued, non-customized 500
  deadline exceeded error).  I'm using appengine patch, and saw a 
  large
  increase in zipimporter calls.  It seemed like a large number of
  requests were reloading the entire Django environment (and maybe 
  doing
  so more slowly than usual...) which resulted in periodic deadline
  exceeded errors on very simple pages.    Sound possible?

  johnP

  On Feb 7, 9:29 am, conman constantin.christm...@googlemail.com
  wrote:

   It's happening again!!

   Our site is not accessible but instead showing a google 500 server
   error page!!!

   The whole day everything worked normal but in the early evening
   (Germany/Europe) or forenoon (PST) the serving of the site is 
   broken
   again - and I definitively didn't change anything today!

   Yesterday at the same time of the day app engine had the exact 
   same
   problem:http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...

   What's up with that and where can I report this error so someone 
   at
   google will look into that?

   Regards,
   Constantin
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[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-08 Thread Nick Winter

I'm seeing this, too: large number of DeadlineExceededErrors and other
errors at the same times of the day, for the past several days.

I'm not sure it's related to Django or anything else. We are using
Django and pyamf, and the errors will happen anywhere. I think it's
just the Django and pyamf have a lot of initialize code to go through,
so the errors that happen randomly often happen in there. Does that
make sense?
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[google-appengine] Re: Again *major* server errors of app engine!

2009-02-08 Thread Devel63

We are using Django v0.96, which is included with GAE (so, not the
Patch, but not webapp either).

Nick Winter's comment could be right ... maybe it's not Django, but
Django just has a lot of initialization code.  That being said, here's
an interesting and common log message that seems to show things
hanging in Django initialization (maybe Google got a bad Django binary
on some of its servers and they need to clear it out?).

   1.
  02-08 12:03PM 01.519 /hint/request 500 9025ms 672ms-cpu 1kb
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/
2009011913 Firefox/3.0.6,gzip(gfe)
  See details
   2.
  E 02-08 12:03PM 10.534

  class 'google.appengine.runtime.DeadlineExceededError':
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File /base/data/home/apps/judysapps/5.331236991686126139/
main.py, line 64, in module
  main()
File /base/data/home/apps/judysapps/5.331236991686126139/
main.py, line 61, in main
  util.run_wsgi_app(application)
File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/webapp/
util.py, line 76, in run_wsgi_app
  result = application(env, _start_response)
File /base/python_lib/versions/1/django/core/handlers/
wsgi.py, line 189, in __call__
  response = self.get_response(request)
File /base/python_lib/versions/1/django/core/handlers/
base.py, line 110, in get_response
  from django.views import debug
File /base/python_lib/versions/1/django/views/debug.py, line
3, in module
  from django.utils.html import escape
File /base/python_lib/versions/1/django/utils/html.py, line
1, in module
  HTML utilities suitable for global use.





On Feb 8, 1:19 am, conman constantin.christm...@googlemail.com
wrote:
 Davel63, are you also using appengine patch?

 On 8 Feb., 04:48, Devel63 danstic...@gmail.com wrote:

  We see the same thing, and just converted to Django.  Sounds like it
  may be related to Django.

  On Feb 7, 11:09 am, johnP j...@thinkwave.com wrote:

   No solution - just gathering information.  Looking more closely at the
   logs where the errors occur, the deadline exceeded pops up somewhere
   while loading and patching django.  This started a couple days ago.
   Maybe it'll go away?

   Oh well - I'm gonna enjoy the rest of the weekend, and will come back
   to this on Monday.  :)

   johnP

   On Feb 7, 10:59 am, conman constantin.christm...@googlemail.com
   wrote:

Yea, I am using appengine patch too and in my logs are a lot deadline
exceeded errors which result from
request on very simple pages without any datastore operations.

But what's the problem? I have the feeling app engine is lagging at
this time of the day but that may be a oversimplification...
What's your solution to that problem - or are you just igoring it?

Constantin

On 7 Feb., 19:37, johnP j...@thinkwave.com wrote:

 I saw similar issues (with a google-issued, non-customized 500
 deadline exceeded error).  I'm using appengine patch, and saw a large
 increase in zipimporter calls.  It seemed like a large number of
 requests were reloading the entire Django environment (and maybe doing
 so more slowly than usual...) which resulted in periodic deadline
 exceeded errors on very simple pages.    Sound possible?

 johnP

 On Feb 7, 9:29 am, conman constantin.christm...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

  It's happening again!!

  Our site is not accessible but instead showing a google 500 server
  error page!!!

  The whole day everything worked normal but in the early evening
  (Germany/Europe) or forenoon (PST) the serving of the site is broken
  again - and I definitively didn't change anything today!

  Yesterday at the same time of the day app engine had the exact same
  problem:http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...

  What's up with that and where can I report this error so someone at
  google will look into that?

  Regards,
  Constantin
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