[google-appengine] Re: datastore query ignoring filter argument.
I didn't get it to work, so I created a workaround:
Two additional fields linked to the next or previous key name.
These links are updated by for loop over the sequence.
If I get more pictures or I have to be more dynamic with the sequence
I have to add some more logic to keep the links updated
with a single operation instead of a big loop.
Grace to the initial concern it's a poor workaround.
On 2 Apr., 20:39, OliWeiD oliver.weimar.dr...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi Jeff,
Example: I'm looking at picture 1, so I pass 1 to img_next.
I want to have the next sequence 1 (e.g. 2)
and of cause it's ordered ascending.
As long as the filter sequence or sequence is in,
the result is empty.
Hope that answers your questions.
Thank you
OliWeiD.
On 2 Apr., 19:05, Jeff S j...@google.com wrote:
Hi OliWeiD,
The in your filter looks a bit suspicious. The default ordering
direction is ascending, and since you order on sequence ascending,
should the inequality be ? I'm not sure what img_next signifies.
Thank you,
Jeff
On Apr 1, 10:44 am, OliWeiD oliver.weimar.dr...@googlemail.com
wrote:
The following query is not working normal:
q = Photo.all().filter('viewer = ', True) \
.filter('sequence ', img_next) \
.order('sequence').order('__key__')
the query is returning nothing,
but when the filter(sequence ) is not in, the first image is
retrieved.
Thanks in advance for any hint..OliWeiD- Zitierten Text ausblenden -
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[google-appengine] Re: Fastest Templating on AppEngine?
Mako (http://www.makotemplates.org/) is believed to be the fastest templating engine in wide use (didn't found any reasonable tests to prove this statement in the GAE environment). Personally I prefer Jinja2 (http://jinja.pocoo.org/2/) because I like Django templates syntax - although Jinja2 gives more flexibility at the cost of slight differing from this syntax. I normal environment Jinja2 template rendering is faster than Django, but on GAE you can not use bytecode cache so templates are recompiled on every request - no speed gain here. On 3 Kwi, 02:13, Lee Olayvar leeolay...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious, has anyone ran across any tests on appengine with various templating engines? I know there are speed comparisons all over the place, but im specifically concerning appengine since it has many aspects that force various templating engines to not use feature X or speed enhancing module Y. Any opinions would also be handy. I'm looking for an obviously sane language, but i have no desire/requirement for the ability to run complex logic inside templates (nor should anyone, imo.) Comments and opinions are much appreciated. Thanks, -- Lee Olayvar --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: How to update DB record
Hi,
A small correction in the solution above,
phrase = Phrases.get_by_id(2)
# or
phrase = Phrases.get_by_key_name('my_key_2')
phraseContent = 'typing a longer phrase'
#Correction
#phraseContent.put()
phrase.phraseContent = phraseContent
phrase.put()
or
phrase.phraseContent = 'typing a longer phrase'
phrase.put()
Thanks,
Arun Shanker Prasad.
On Apr 5, 4:08 am, djidjadji djidja...@gmail.com wrote:
If you don't have a primary key in your object model you should use key_names.
Don't rely on the object ID's that are given.
To update an object in the datastore you first retrieve it with a query.
Change the members of the object.
and put the object back
phrase = Phrases.get_by_id(2)
# or
phrase = Phrases.get_by_key_name('my_key_2')
phraseContent = 'typing a longer phrase'
phraseContent.put()
2009/4/4 Larkin2 michael.mer...@gmail.com:
I've been reviewing the example provided here:
http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/commontasks.html#updatein regards
to updating a record in my DB.
I have the following DB model
class Phrases(db.Model,):
phraseContent = db.StringProperty(multiline=True)
Assuming the following records exist
ID | phraseContent
---
1 | before a window
2 | typing a phrase
3 } into a computer
How would I update #2 to read: 'typing a longer phrase'
without creating a new record all together?
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[google-appengine] Re: Fastest Templating on AppEngine?
How about we come up with some standard test cases that can easily be run under gae that we can try a few of the different template engines and compare like for like (where possible) taking into account start up times and any possible caching,. I am using zpt it if I take startup time out of the equation and just look at rendering a page with details from about 20 entities takes about 250 ms. Not very useful for comparison for anyone else, as whatever I am doing isn't likely to be that same as other people ;-) T On Apr 5, 5:56 pm, Jarek Zgoda jarek.zg...@gmail.com wrote: Mako (http://www.makotemplates.org/) is believed to be the fastest templating engine in wide use (didn't found any reasonable tests to prove this statement in the GAE environment). Personally I prefer Jinja2 (http://jinja.pocoo.org/2/) because I like Django templates syntax - although Jinja2 gives more flexibility at the cost of slight differing from this syntax. I normal environment Jinja2 template rendering is faster than Django, but on GAE you can not use bytecode cache so templates are recompiled on every request - no speed gain here. On 3 Kwi, 02:13, Lee Olayvar leeolay...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious, has anyone ran across any tests on appengine with various templating engines? I know there are speed comparisons all over the place, but im specifically concerning appengine since it has many aspects that force various templating engines to not use feature X or speed enhancing module Y. Any opinions would also be handy. I'm looking for an obviously sane language, but i have no desire/requirement for the ability to run complex logic inside templates (nor should anyone, imo.) Comments and opinions are much appreciated. Thanks, -- Lee Olayvar --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Model-driven architecture on GAE
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[google-appengine] Re: Memcache return different object for same key?
To see the issue, your entity must have a blob with a big size
(500k) (so each update, the quota will grow fastly)
Then you run this many times and check the quota.
Check the pictures (inside the case) with 10 entity, my datastore
grows up to 450 mb ;)
Since few weeks, there is GAE batch that recalculates the real
quota, so now, each day the bug is gone.
Another thing with this bug :
If you update the entity and you put it back to datastore, the changes
are not saved :
db.get() - entity - Memcached - entity - UPDATE entity - dp.put()
I will check it again, maybe the bug is gone, but I don't think.
Regards
On 4 avr, 17:36, 秦锋 feng.w@gmail.com wrote:
I did the same scenario but one more:
db.get() - entity - Memcached - entity - dp.put() - memcache.set
(Mykey, object())
I don't the difference with yours, and currently it seems OK for my
quota.
On 4月4日, 下午10时59分, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote:
db.get() - entity - Memcached - entity - dp.put() = bug
You can check this bug
:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=631
But it not a good idea to use the memcache to store an entity then to
put this entity back to datastore.
Regards
On 4 avr, 16:15, Alkis Evlogimenos ('Αλκης Ευλογημένος)
evlogime...@gmail.com wrote:
You need to do both. Memcache doesn't persist.
2009/4/4 秦锋 feng.w@gmail.com
Thanks!
Does it means I have to put entity back to db or pickle it back to
memcache after changed something? Otherwise changes will be lost, I
guess.
On 4月4日, 下午9时31分, Tim Hoffman zutes...@gmail.com wrote:
That is correct, an instance is being recreated from the data stored
in memcache
You will find the same value inside it though.
What happens is the object is being pickled when you stick it into
memcache, when you get it the object it
is unpickled and essentially a new instance is created from the data
stored.
T
On Apr 4, 7:14 pm, 秦锋 feng.w@gmail.com wrote:
Following is my code in interactive console in local SDK admin web
page:
from google.appengine.api import memcache
from google.appengine.ext import db
r = db.Model()
memcache.set(Mytest, r)
i = 0
while i10:
print memcache.get(Mytest)
i+=1
When I run it, I got different instances for the same key? Is it
wrong?
google.appengine.ext.db.Model object at 0x024DCFF0
google.appengine.ext.db.Model object at 0x024DCE10
google.appengine.ext.db.Model object at 0x024DCDD0
google.appengine.ext.db.Model object at 0x024DCF50
google.appengine.ext.db.Model object at 0x024DCFF0
google.appengine.ext.db.Model object at 0x024DCE10
google.appengine.ext.db.Model object at 0x024DCDD0
google.appengine.ext.db.Model object at 0x024DCF50
google.appengine.ext.db.Model object at 0x024DCFF0
google.appengine.ext.db.Model object at 0x024DCE10
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[google-appengine] Re: uploading app failed.... need help to fix..
On Apr 3, 10:05 pm, Aaron shyhockey...@gmail.com wrote: So it's basicly saying I am going over a free limit? I am working for a company and they had the previous programmer to make a admin interface where I can just copy and paste in my css and html code to make changes to the website. So this basicly is saying I am exceeding a limit based on free service. So the company if they want this content on their website they need to pay for it or more. It's not a free limit, it's a hard limit. You can't have more than 1000 program files or 1000 static files. This is a fundamental BigTable restriction; note that Google Reader won't tell you how many feed items you have if it's over 1000, but will display 1000+. If you need to serve more than 1000 different HTML files, you'll need to put each one on the datastore and have a python script pull them out and serve them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Fastest Templating on AppEngine?
One thing i think mako has in its favor, is if i remember right (from what i've read, not used), is that a form of caching/speed enhancement is its ability to turn a template into a python module. Now this can't be done on appengine ofcourse, but it can be done before hand im sure. So far im choosing Jinja2 however, because i like the syntax, but if it proves to be too slow, i may try automating the process of mako and its python-module-template thing. (I use a wrapper for the gae uploader which will be made to handle things like this) On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:26 AM, Tim Hoffman zutes...@gmail.com wrote: How about we come up with some standard test cases that can easily be run under gae that we can try a few of the different template engines and compare like for like (where possible) taking into account start up times and any possible caching,. I am using zpt it if I take startup time out of the equation and just look at rendering a page with details from about 20 entities takes about 250 ms. Not very useful for comparison for anyone else, as whatever I am doing isn't likely to be that same as other people ;-) T On Apr 5, 5:56 pm, Jarek Zgoda jarek.zg...@gmail.com wrote: Mako (http://www.makotemplates.org/) is believed to be the fastest templating engine in wide use (didn't found any reasonable tests to prove this statement in the GAE environment). Personally I prefer Jinja2 (http://jinja.pocoo.org/2/) because I like Django templates syntax - although Jinja2 gives more flexibility at the cost of slight differing from this syntax. I normal environment Jinja2 template rendering is faster than Django, but on GAE you can not use bytecode cache so templates are recompiled on every request - no speed gain here. On 3 Kwi, 02:13, Lee Olayvar leeolay...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious, has anyone ran across any tests on appengine with various templating engines? I know there are speed comparisons all over the place, but im specifically concerning appengine since it has many aspects that force various templating engines to not use feature X or speed enhancing module Y. Any opinions would also be handy. I'm looking for an obviously sane language, but i have no desire/requirement for the ability to run complex logic inside templates (nor should anyone, imo.) Comments and opinions are much appreciated. Thanks, -- Lee Olayvar -- Lee Olayvar --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: what factors make Loading __main__ very time-consume
Maybe it's the write operation that slow down the Loading __main__ ,in the request ,a new record is insert into the app engine store,i suspect thats the main reason of my problem, what method do u use to profile the write operation and optimize the write operation? On Apr 5, 9:27 pm, Coonay fla...@gmail.com wrote: The following log is extracted from the Administration Console, the Loading __main__ spend nearly 1 second,i use app engine + django,what factors do u think make Loading __main__ very time-consume? 04-05 04:00AM 14.739 /gwt/Home/post_nost 500 909ms 1873ms-cpu 8kb Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/1.0.154.53 Safari/525.19,gzip(gfe) 222.65.30.191 - [05/Apr/2009:04:00:15 -0700] POST /gwt/Home/post_nost HTTP/1.1 500 8074 http://coonay.appspot.com/ 1DD6B98BD09B2027717DAF593993F70D.cache.html Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/ 1.0.154.53 Safari/525.19,gzip(gfe) D 04-05 04:00AM 14.766 Loading __main__ I 04-05 04:00AM 15.517 update ok --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: test server won't work anymore getting errors...
Looks like you changed myapp in settings.py to your app name, change
it back to myapp..I had the same issue, the myapp thing is related to
other things which I have not determined yet!
On Apr 4, 6:18 pm, Aaron shyhockey...@gmail.com wrote:
Now I can't even run the test server anymore.
I get a new error:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File manage.py, line 4, in module
setup_env(manage_py_env=True)
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/aecmd.py, line 63, in
setup_env
patch_all()
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/appenginepatcher/patch.py,
line 21, in patch_all
patch_django()
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/appenginepatcher/patch.py,
line 535, in patch_django
from ragendja import template
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/ragendja/template.py, line 84,
in module
app_template_dirs = get_app_dirs('templates')
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/ragendja/apputils.py, line 38,
in get_app_dirs
for appname, module in get_app_modules().items():
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/ragendja/apputils.py, line 32,
in get_app_modules
if module_name in list_modules(import_module(app)):
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/ragendja/apputils.py, line 5,
in import_module
return __import__(module_name, {}, {}, [''])
ImportError: No module named contact
r...@demonicproductions:/home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/
google_app_engine/google_appengine# python manage.py runserver
Traceback (most recent call last):
File manage.py, line 4, in module
setup_env(manage_py_env=True)
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/aecmd.py, line 63, in
setup_env
patch_all()
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/appenginepatcher/patch.py,
line 21, in patch_all
patch_django()
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/appenginepatcher/patch.py,
line 535, in patch_django
from ragendja import template
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/ragendja/template.py, line 84,
in module
app_template_dirs = get_app_dirs('templates')
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/ragendja/apputils.py, line 38,
in get_app_dirs
for appname, module in get_app_modules().items():
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/ragendja/apputils.py, line 32,
in get_app_modules
if module_name in list_modules(import_module(app)):
File /home/aaron/websites/Chillenvillen.com/apps/google_app_engine/
google_appengine/common/appenginepatch/ragendja/apputils.py, line 5,
in import_module
return __import__(module_name, {}, {}, [''])
ImportError: No module named contact
that's what the terminal spits out.
I am using linux ubuntu OS.
I have not changed anything. This just happened when I restarted the
test server.
I now got a headache urgh. I been working on this all day today.
I work for a company and this ceo wants it up as soon as possible and
is losing patience.
How do I fix these errors.
I typed in python manage.py runserver.
then I get what I posted above.
Then it dosen't start the test server.
I was able this morning to run the test server just now for some
reason it dosen't allow me.
I didn't change anything. I just restarted the test server 4 times
today and then this happens.
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[google-appengine] Re: what factors make Loading __main__ very time-consume
No,i profiled the db insert operation and found the it's not the db insert that 's time consuming,it's the Loading __main__ itself consuming a lot of time,could you tell me why Loading __main__ spend so much time? 04-05 07:13AM 57.908 /gwt/Home/post_nost 500 888ms 1677ms-cpu 0kb Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/1.0.154.53 Safari/525.19,gzip(gfe) 222.65.30.191 - [05/Apr/2009:07:13:58 -0700] POST /gwt/Home/post_nost HTTP/1.1 500 180 http://coonay.appspot.com/ 1DD6B98BD09B2027717DAF593993F70D.cache.html Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/ 1.0.154.53 Safari/525.19,gzip(gfe) 04-05 07:13AM 57.944 Loading __main__ 04-05 07:13AM 58.629 Trace into post_nost 04-05 07:13AM 58.715 update ok 04-05 07:13AM 58.722 Trace out post_nost On Apr 5, 9:43 pm, Coonay fla...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe it's the write operation that slow down the Loading __main__ ,in the request ,a new record is insert into the app engine store,i suspect thats the main reason of my problem, what method do u use to profile the write operation and optimize the write operation? On Apr 5, 9:27 pm, Coonay fla...@gmail.com wrote: The following log is extracted from the Administration Console, the Loading __main__ spend nearly 1 second,i use app engine + django,what factors do u think make Loading __main__ very time-consume? 04-05 04:00AM 14.739 /gwt/Home/post_nost 500 909ms 1873ms-cpu 8kb Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/1.0.154.53 Safari/525.19,gzip(gfe) 222.65.30.191 - [05/Apr/2009:04:00:15 -0700] POST /gwt/Home/post_nost HTTP/1.1 500 8074 http://coonay.appspot.com/ 1DD6B98BD09B2027717DAF593993F70D.cache.html Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/ 1.0.154.53 Safari/525.19,gzip(gfe) D 04-05 04:00AM 14.766 Loading __main__ I 04-05 04:00AM 15.517 update ok --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: one more
Got a problem with a couple of statements above - 1. [Xavier] Google should be able to look at your code to fix problems that arise. Why can't they just shut it down? Also, I hope you don't mean fix customer code. 2. [Xavier] As long as they do not tamper with the code I see no problem of them looking at it! We are talking about business customers - just because you see no problem, doesn't mean everyone should be happy to have their code looked at - by all means you could tick a hypothetical box that lets Google look at your code. The key point here is that Google reserving the right to look at code stops business customers putting their code there. As Tim pointed out, if you have a problem with people looking at your code, don't host it on their hardware. Unfortunately, that is exactly the approach that business takes. If Google wants business customers on their platform, then they need to give them confidence in this area, or that is exactly the way they will go. This is paid hosting service, if there is no *need* to look at customer's code, then you shouldn't look at it - just because you would *like* to look at it to improve your service is not a sufficient reason. I see no *need*, so why put up unnecessary barriers to adoption? 3. [Tim] 'the terms the service are made available under is really up to the service provider' I agree that the terms are up to the provider, but they should be clear. Marzia has said one thing (http://groups.google.com/group/ google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/98320071f78b0aab/ 7ca6960f8aa217c5), the terms say another. Google, perhaps you could answer two simple questions a. Do you reserve the right to look at customer code, at your discretion, without notifying the customer? b. Why is stopping a badly behaved app not sufficient? In the end Google can create whatever terms it wants, but there are people out there eager to use App Engine for business apps, and they want some confidence and clarity about the the privacy of their code. Business customers read the terms and conditions, and privacy policy, and right now these say Google can look at your code and use it to improve their service whenever they want and without notifying the customer. Business customers and commercial app vendors don't want this. On Apr 4, 5:48 pm, Xavier Mathews xavieruni...@gmail.com wrote: Laws are diffrent all over. The point is you can't do anything about your code on Google but take it off! So its your choice! And if you do take it off Google will still have a copy! On 04/04/2009, Tim Hoffman zutes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi On Apr 4, 7:20 pm, Portos ciber...@gmail.com wrote: And your car is on a public road, but it doesn't mean it 's public property, does it? The fact that google offers a hosting / cluster service don't give them authoring rights in any country I know. No, but in Western Australia if I break certain hoon laws the cops can confiscate my car for a period, and if I perform the same offence several times I will lose it permanently, I would have to say the analogy is between google and the police/ government not the public. The public have no access to my code on app engine unless I make it available. If I where google I would reserve the right to access the code if the need arose to ensure the service runs correctly, and investigate problems that can arise if something in code does something strange. The same goes with the cops, they can seize my car or lock me up, if I do something inappropriate which ensures the roads (in theory ) remain safe ;-) There is an inherent acceptance on my part of the road rules when I use the car on the road. You are accepting googles rules when you use their service. (I am not saying privacy etc isn't important at all) but the terms the service are made available under is really up to the service provider (unless it is breaking some other law) and that everyone planning to use google or any other cloud type service needs to think carefully about whether it is appropriate to use it, laws can differ signficantly between countries. (I believe these differences are one of the reasons why Amazon introduced availability zones in europe, so that the laws there can cover the data held in europe rather than us law. T -- Sent From Sony Slim-Line PSP Xavier A. Mathews Web-Developer --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: one more
No, but in Western Australia if I break certain hoon laws the cops can confiscate my car for a period, and if I perform the same offence several times I will lose it permanently, I would have to say the analogy is between google and the police/ government not the public. Luckily, in Western Australia, you can find out what the hoon laws are that could result in the confiscation of your car. On GAE, it is like the cops being able to confiscate your car whenever they feel like it, citing the 'behaving badly' clause. In fact the terms equate to being able to do do without citing any clause - they don't even have to tell you they do it - the equivalent would be the WA cops nicking your car from the driveway in the middle of the night. It would be a horror living in any state that had laws as draconian as GAE's concerning your property. Believe it or not, business aren't too keen on these terms. On Apr 4, 1:46 pm, Tim Hoffman zutes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi On Apr 4, 7:20 pm, Portos ciber...@gmail.com wrote: And your car is on a public road, but it doesn't mean it 's public property, does it? The fact that google offers a hosting / cluster service don't give them authoring rights in any country I know. No, but in Western Australia if I break certain hoon laws the cops can confiscate my car for a period, and if I perform the same offence several times I will lose it permanently, I would have to say the analogy is between google and the police/ government not the public. The public have no access to my code on app engine unless I make it available. If I where google I would reserve the right to access the code if the need arose to ensure the service runs correctly, and investigate problems that can arise if something in code does something strange. The same goes with the cops, they can seize my car or lock me up, if I do something inappropriate which ensures the roads (in theory ) remain safe ;-) There is an inherent acceptance on my part of the road rules when I use the car on the road. You are accepting googles rules when you use their service. (I am not saying privacy etc isn't important at all) but the terms the service are made available under is really up to the service provider (unless it is breaking some other law) and that everyone planning to use google or any other cloud type service needs to think carefully about whether it is appropriate to use it, laws can differ signficantly between countries. (I believe these differences are one of the reasons why Amazon introduced availability zones in europe, so that the laws there can cover the data held in europe rather than us law. T --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: one more
And just to distill the current policy - TC: http://code.google.com/appengine/terms.html Privacy: http://code.google.com/appengine/privacy.html TC Seciton 6: Here are your rights, except as outlined in section 8 TC Section 8: ... in accordance with the privacy policy Privacy Policy: 'Personal Information: Content. Google App Engine stores, processes your application source code and content in order to provide the service to you.' 'Uses: We use this information internally to deliver the best possible service to you, such as improving the Google App Engine user interface and maintaining a consistent and reliable user experience.' On Apr 4, 1:46 pm, Tim Hoffman zutes...@gmail.com wrote: Hi On Apr 4, 7:20 pm, Portos ciber...@gmail.com wrote: And your car is on a public road, but it doesn't mean it 's public property, does it? The fact that google offers a hosting / cluster service don't give them authoring rights in any country I know. No, but in Western Australia if I break certain hoon laws the cops can confiscate my car for a period, and if I perform the same offence several times I will lose it permanently, I would have to say the analogy is between google and the police/ government not the public. The public have no access to my code on app engine unless I make it available. If I where google I would reserve the right to access the code if the need arose to ensure the service runs correctly, and investigate problems that can arise if something in code does something strange. The same goes with the cops, they can seize my car or lock me up, if I do something inappropriate which ensures the roads (in theory ) remain safe ;-) There is an inherent acceptance on my part of the road rules when I use the car on the road. You are accepting googles rules when you use their service. (I am not saying privacy etc isn't important at all) but the terms the service are made available under is really up to the service provider (unless it is breaking some other law) and that everyone planning to use google or any other cloud type service needs to think carefully about whether it is appropriate to use it, laws can differ signficantly between countries. (I believe these differences are one of the reasons why Amazon introduced availability zones in europe, so that the laws there can cover the data held in europe rather than us law. T --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: 308K CSV file cost 20% GAE data space!
Something is wrong here - it should not generate multiple indices per
tag, regardless of the length of the list. (The query won't work if
the length is greater than 30, but that's a different problem.)
see Ryan's message in
http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/1285c272c0e1b62a
That time, the problem turned out to be some user error, but I didn't
see an explanation.
On Apr 3, 8:58 am, 秦锋 feng.w@gmail.com wrote:
Alkis:
I re-check my code and found if I use list property in gql like
following:
WHERE tags = :1, inputTags (it's a list)
If there are 3 tag in inputTags, index will be:
name:tag
name:tag
name:tag
Does this cost huge space?
But it's really cool for multi-tags searching in app!
On 4月3日, 下午8时50分, Alkis Evlogimenos ('Αλκης Ευλογημένος)
evlogime...@gmail.com wrote:
What do your models look like?
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:00 PM, 秦锋 feng.w@gmail.com wrote:
My App: cndata4u.appspot.com
Now I have imported about 2500 records there, and with only THREE
entities. But I have found that these data have occurred 20% data
store, about 200M!
My original CSV files have only 308K!
Any idea?
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[google-appengine] Re: Should I take my website somewhere else? - blocked in China
Feel free to hair-split the word obligation. It's the plain meaning of the word. I apologise for not knowing that you didn't know what it meant when you wrote that Google had an obligation to make GAE available in China. Are there other statements that you made without understanding their meaning? China availability issue is one of the few issues where folks claim that/act like Google has an obligation even though it's an issue where Google has very little capability to change things. That's why I want to hear from a Google representative on their plan. I predict that if Google says anything, it will be roughly equivalent to we're doing what we can. At that point, you'll have to decide if the results, which will vary with the whim of the Chinese govt, are adequate for your purposes. Of course, if you're better at dealing with the Chinese govt than Google is Now just accept that fact and act accordingly. And the basis for this order is... On Apr 4, 6:11 pm, Andy selforgani...@gmail.com wrote: I'm someone who understands that obligations come from laws and contracts. Feel free to point to the relevant chapter and verse that However, absent a contract and/or a law, Google isn't obligated to make GAE applications visible in China. Feel free to hair-split the word obligation. Does Google have the legal obligation to solve this problem? No. Just like Google doesn't have any legal obligation to improve this service or add any new features. Does that mean users should stop posting any thread that's about improving GAE? Does that mean you're going to start polluting every single thread in this forum by posting your 'Google has no legal obligation to do this drivel? Good for you. And Google may, or may not, offer such an option. Note may not - they're under no obligation to do so. (I don't presume to know the risks and costs of offering such an option. After all, China can block at the edge of the data centers, impose conditions, or even shut them down.) Another zero-value drivel. Yes Google may or may not offer that solution, just like they may or may not offer any solution to any other problems raised in this forum That's why I want to hear from a Google representative on their plan. Your speculation on what Google may or may not do is just that, worthless speculation that serves no purpose in this discussion. You're right to not presume to know though, seeing how you don't know anything in this matter. Now just accept that fact and act accordingly. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Seeing a Load of Datastore Errors Today.....
We have not seen any errors like this before today they are popping up 1 in 20 requests: File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/datastore.py, line 886, in _Run _ToDatastoreError(err) File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/ datastore.py, line 1965, in _ToDatastoreError raise errors[err.application_error](err.error_detail) Timeout What is up with this? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: DataStore timeout
We are seein g the same issue today. No problem in the past. Somebody tweaked something! On Apr 3, 6:14 pm, Jeff S j...@google.com wrote: Hi DarkCoiote, How rapidly are puts being made on a single entity? There is a write speed limit for a single entity or entity-group so if these puts are being made against the same person, or if puts are being made to objects which share the same parent, the put operations may queue up and eventually time out. Does this seem like it could be the issue? Thank you, Jeff On Apr 3, 5:31 am, DarkCoiote darkcoi...@gmail.com wrote: Getting a bad number of datastore timeout... and the operation is 'simple', is a put in simple model;... Traceback (most recent call last): File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/webapp/ __init__.py, line 501, in __call__ handler.get(*groups) File /base/data/home/apps/naval-war/1.332510333196150921/main.py, line 218, in get person.put() File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/db/ __init__.py, line 669, in put return datastore.Put(self._entity) File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/ datastore.py, line 166, in Put raise _ToDatastoreError(err) File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/ datastore.py, line 1965, in _ToDatastoreError raise errors[err.application_error](err.error_detail) Timeout person model: class Person(db.Model): id = db.StringProperty() score = db.IntegerProperty(default=0) currentFleet = db.IntegerProperty(default=0) availableShots = db.IntegerProperty(default=0) maxShots = db.IntegerProperty(default=0) shipsSunk = db.ListProperty(int,verbose_name=Sunken ships list, default=[0,0,0,0,0]) shipsLost = db.ListProperty(int,verbose_name=Lost ships list, default=[0,0,0,0,0]) lastAccess = db.DateTimeProperty(auto_now_add=True) see... no references or anything complicated any tips on how to reduce the number of datastore timeouts?? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: DataStore timeout
We are seeing the same issue today. No problem in the past. Somebody tweaked something! On Apr 3, 5:31 am, DarkCoiote darkcoi...@gmail.com wrote: Getting a bad number of datastore timeout... and the operation is 'simple', is a put in simple model;... Traceback (most recent call last): File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/webapp/ __init__.py, line 501, in __call__ handler.get(*groups) File /base/data/home/apps/naval-war/1.332510333196150921/main.py, line 218, in get person.put() File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/db/ __init__.py, line 669, in put return datastore.Put(self._entity) File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/ datastore.py, line 166, in Put raise _ToDatastoreError(err) File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/ datastore.py, line 1965, in _ToDatastoreError raise errors[err.application_error](err.error_detail) Timeout person model: class Person(db.Model): id = db.StringProperty() score = db.IntegerProperty(default=0) currentFleet = db.IntegerProperty(default=0) availableShots = db.IntegerProperty(default=0) maxShots = db.IntegerProperty(default=0) shipsSunk = db.ListProperty(int,verbose_name=Sunken ships list, default=[0,0,0,0,0]) shipsLost = db.ListProperty(int,verbose_name=Lost ships list, default=[0,0,0,0,0]) lastAccess = db.DateTimeProperty(auto_now_add=True) see... no references or anything complicated any tips on how to reduce the number of datastore timeouts?? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: 308K CSV file cost 20% GAE data space!
That thread is refering to 'in' which effectivly is a OR - which as
pointed out by ryan expands to three(or multiple) queries under the
hood.
But 秦锋 I think is referring to AND, the code in the quoted post is
only pseudo code (and/or gql expands to 'and' internally - sorry, I
dont know enough python)
a query of WHERE tag = 'tag1' AND tag = 'tag2' AND tag = 'tag3' -
will require *three* indexes on `tag`
- this only make sense for ListProperties. But is a valid query. For
Lists, tag = 'tag1' could be written like ('tag1' IN LIST `tag`)
- which is different to the sql/gql IN keyword.
On 05/04/2009, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote:
Something is wrong here - it should not generate multiple indices per
tag, regardless of the length of the list. (The query won't work if
the length is greater than 30, but that's a different problem.)
see Ryan's message in
http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/1285c272c0e1b62a
That time, the problem turned out to be some user error, but I didn't
see an explanation.
On Apr 3, 8:58 am, 秦锋 feng.w@gmail.com wrote:
Alkis:
I re-check my code and found if I use list property in gql like
following:
WHERE tags = :1, inputTags (it's a list)
If there are 3 tag in inputTags, index will be:
name:tag
name:tag
name:tag
Does this cost huge space?
But it's really cool for multi-tags searching in app!
On 4月3日, 下午8时50分, Alkis Evlogimenos ('Αλκης Ευλογημένος)
evlogime...@gmail.com wrote:
What do your models look like?
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:00 PM, 秦锋 feng.w@gmail.com wrote:
My App: cndata4u.appspot.com
Now I have imported about 2500 records there, and with only THREE
entities. But I have found that these data have occurred 20% data
store, about 200M!
My original CSV files have only 308K!
Any idea?
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[google-appengine] Re: failure in Django 1.0.2 and Helper r76 only in deployed app about AttributeError for HttpResponse
In case anyone cares, turned out a decorator of mine for automatic memcache usage was triggering this. I was never able to reproduce on dev_appserver; trial and error by disabling Django apps led to the discovery. On Mar 22, 3:32 pm, Brett C. bcan...@gmail.com wrote: I am getting a failure on deployment that I am not getting through the dev_appserver and for the life of me I can't figure out what the heck could be causing this. I had not touched my site prior to 1.1.9 and the released copy (r52) of the Django helper was obviously not working anymore against dev_appserver. So I grabbed svn (r76) of the Helper and Django 1.0.2, fixed my templates, and thought everything was great as everything ran fine locally. Then I deployed where I keep getting the following error: type 'exceptions.AttributeError': 'HttpResponse' object has no attribute '_headers' Traceback (most recent call last): File /base/data/home/apps/dr-brett/4.332258713963491395/main.py, line 51, in module main() File /base/data/home/apps/dr-brett/4.332258713963491395/main.py, line 48, in main util.run_wsgi_app(application) File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/webapp/ util.py, line 76, in run_wsgi_app result = application(env, _start_response) File /base/data/home/apps/dr-brett/4.332258713963491395/django.zip/ django/core/handlers/wsgi.py, line 244, in __call__ File /base/data/home/apps/dr-brett/4.332258713963491395/django.zip/ django/core/handlers/base.py, line 174, in apply_response_fixes File /base/data/home/apps/dr-brett/4.332258713963491395/django.zip/ django/http/utils.py, line 19, in fix_location_header File /base/data/home/apps/dr-brett/4.332258713963491395/django.zip/ django/http/__init__.py, line 328, in has_header Has anyone run into this? Any changes happened deployment-side where run_wsgi_app could be the cause of this? I looked at the Django code I zipped up and _headers is set in the __init__ for HttpResponse so I can't think of what the heck could be triggering this error in a deployed app but not locally. -Brett --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: 308K CSV file cost 20% GAE data space!
Specifically, a query with multiple equality filters on a single list
property requires an (exploding) custom index with the property repeated in
multiple columns if and only if the query also uses inequality filters or
sort orders on other properties. If a query uses nothing but equality
filters and no sort orders, it can be performed using the merge join
algorithm using only the built-in single property indexes.
It's a lot to ask for a tag search to not use a custom sort order, so I
won't say it's a complete solution. If it helps, the effective sort order
of an equality-filter-only query is key order, ascending.
-- Dan
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Barry Hunter barrybhun...@googlemail.comwrote:
That thread is refering to 'in' which effectivly is a OR - which as
pointed out by ryan expands to three(or multiple) queries under the
hood.
But 秦锋 I think is referring to AND, the code in the quoted post is
only pseudo code (and/or gql expands to 'and' internally - sorry, I
dont know enough python)
a query of WHERE tag = 'tag1' AND tag = 'tag2' AND tag = 'tag3' -
will require *three* indexes on `tag`
- this only make sense for ListProperties. But is a valid query. For
Lists, tag = 'tag1' could be written like ('tag1' IN LIST `tag`)
- which is different to the sql/gql IN keyword.
On 05/04/2009, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote:
Something is wrong here - it should not generate multiple indices per
tag, regardless of the length of the list. (The query won't work if
the length is greater than 30, but that's a different problem.)
see Ryan's message in
http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/1285c272c0e1b62a
That time, the problem turned out to be some user error, but I didn't
see an explanation.
On Apr 3, 8:58 am, 秦锋 feng.w@gmail.com wrote:
Alkis:
I re-check my code and found if I use list property in gql like
following:
WHERE tags = :1, inputTags (it's a list)
If there are 3 tag in inputTags, index will be:
name:tag
name:tag
name:tag
Does this cost huge space?
But it's really cool for multi-tags searching in app!
On 4月3日, 下午8时50分, Alkis Evlogimenos ('Αλκης Ευλογημένος)
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What do your models look like?
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:00 PM, 秦锋 feng.w@gmail.com wrote:
My App: cndata4u.appspot.com
Now I have imported about 2500 records there, and with only THREE
entities. But I have found that these data have occurred 20% data
store, about 200M!
My original CSV files have only 308K!
Any idea?
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[google-appengine] AppEngine SDK Server on a Virtualenv? Is there a trick to this?
I've been trying to get the sdk/dev server working on a VirtualEnv (with
--no-site-packages defined). So far i've had no luck getting any remotely
complex app to run.
The plain text print Hello World will run, but if i try to run the
template app in the sdk, i get this error:
24 from google.appengine.ext import webapp
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26
google *undefined*, webapp *undefined**type 'exceptions.ImportError'*: No
module named ext
args = ('No module named ext',)
message = 'No module named ext'
Note that importing google, and google.appengine will work just fine.
This is a completely fresh version of the sdk aswell. Any thoughts as to
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[google-appengine] Re: Get All StringListProperty Values
Thanks Alkis. Forgot I could manually assign key names to entities.
On Apr 4, 2:27 am, Alkis Evlogimenos ('Αλκης Ευλογημένος)
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I think the only way is to scan (using the __key property) all the entities
of the Knights model and update a set of the strings.
Another way to do it, is to have a another entity:
KnightColor:
pass
The keyname for each empty entity is the color. For each Knight you put in
the datastore, check if the colors are in the datastore or not, if not add
the missing ones. Then you can scan this table and get the list of all
colors. I am not sure if it matters but it is also going to be sorted by
color as well.
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 3:01 AM, Andrew Fong fongand...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
Given a model with a StringListProperty, is there a way to query for
all strings across all string list properties for this kind?
For example, if I have Knight(colors=['blue','yellow']) and Knight
(colors=['black']), can I do Knight.some_function('colors') # =
['blue','yellow','black']?
I was going to implement this myself with a separate datastore table,
but it occurred to me that depending on how ListProperty is indexed,
there's probably some table with I data I want already in the system.
Is there any way to query that table?
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[google-appengine] Re: 308K CSV file cost 20% GAE data space!
But 秦锋 I think is referring to AND, the code in the quoted post is
only pseudo code (and/or gql expands to 'and' internally - sorry, I
dont know enough python)
Why do you think that WHERE tags = :1, inputTags (it's a list) is
pseudo code? It looks to me like an excerpt from query construction
code together with a description.
The :1 isn't python-specific, it's a convention in the API for query
construction. It means the first argument after the query string.
If the query string ended with :1, the comma would separate it from
the first argument, which I take to be the value of inputTags, which
is described as being a list.
Where are you finding something relevant in GQL which expands
internally into an AND?
Maybe 秦锋 will post the actual code.
On Apr 5, 1:04 pm, Barry Hunter barrybhun...@googlemail.com wrote:
That thread is refering to 'in' which effectivly is a OR - which as
pointed out by ryan expands to three(or multiple) queries under the
hood.
But 秦锋 I think is referring to AND, the code in the quoted post is
only pseudo code (and/or gql expands to 'and' internally - sorry, I
dont know enough python)
a query of WHERE tag = 'tag1' AND tag = 'tag2' AND tag = 'tag3' -
will require *three* indexes on `tag`
- this only make sense for ListProperties. But is a valid query. For
Lists, tag = 'tag1' could be written like ('tag1' IN LIST `tag`)
- which is different to the sql/gql IN keyword.
On 05/04/2009, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote:
Something is wrong here - it should not generate multiple indices per
tag, regardless of the length of the list. (The query won't work if
the length is greater than 30, but that's a different problem.)
see Ryan's message in
http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...
That time, the problem turned out to be some user error, but I didn't
see an explanation.
On Apr 3, 8:58 am, 秦锋 feng.w@gmail.com wrote:
Alkis:
I re-check my code and found if I use list property in gql like
following:
WHERE tags = :1, inputTags (it's a list)
If there are 3 tag in inputTags, index will be:
name:tag
name:tag
name:tag
Does this cost huge space?
But it's really cool for multi-tags searching in app!
On 4月3日, 下午8时50分, Alkis Evlogimenos ('Αλκης Ευλογημένος)
evlogime...@gmail.com wrote:
What do your models look like?
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:00 PM, 秦锋 feng.w@gmail.com wrote:
My App: cndata4u.appspot.com
Now I have imported about 2500 records there, and with only THREE
entities. But I have found that these data have occurred 20% data
store, about 200M!
My original CSV files have only 308K!
Any idea?
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[google-appengine] Re: AppEngine SDK Server on a Virtualenv? Is there a trick to this?
HI Lee
I use virtualenv a lot, but to be honest I don't see a lot of value in
it for the
app engine sdk.
The sdk isn't installed normally into you python site-packages etc
So you just stick it whereever you want and just run the dev server
with a fully
specified path., and everything is fine,
I usually use virtualenv becuase I need to install lots of
dependancies (ie zope)
and don't want that in my core python.
Rgds
Tim
On Apr 6, 5:17 am, Lee Olayvar leeolay...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been trying to get the sdk/dev server working on a VirtualEnv (with
--no-site-packages defined). So far i've had no luck getting any remotely
complex app to run.
The plain text print Hello World will run, but if i try to run the
template app in the sdk, i get this error:
24 from google.appengine.ext import webapp
25
26
google *undefined*, webapp *undefined**type 'exceptions.ImportError'*: No
module named ext
args = ('No module named ext',)
message = 'No module named ext'
Note that importing google, and google.appengine will work just fine.
This is a completely fresh version of the sdk aswell. Any thoughts as to
what could be wrong?
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[google-appengine] Re: Should I take my website somewhere else? - blocked in China
Plenty of companies would be willing to deal with not being able to support customers in China. Either for reasons of they only support selling products within in their own countries, to, startups that will move off of appengine if the need and funding arises to allow them move off of appengine to support Chinese customers. So far, I've only seen two people complaining about the Chinese firewall and appengine, and a couple others voicing their opinion on it not being Google's obligation to support it. So really, when you count how many members this group has, I'd venture a guess that most just don't care either way. So maybe we're all wasting our time. If Google was going to respond, they'd have done it days ago. I'd say do as they ask, file an issue, and move on. On Apr 5, 6:16 pm, WallyDD shaneb...@gmail.com wrote: Google is more or less obligated to solve this issue. No company is willing to be a pawn in the game of politics between Google and China. Name a single company (that has any international presence) who would be willing to use GAE knowing full well that it is blocked in its current form? This issue has nothing to do with the Chinese government and there is no way Google will point the finger at them. Perhaps google can also take on all the other countries that are blocking GAE and while they are at it they can point fingers at corporate america and their firewalls? You have to remember that at the moment this is a preview release. I don't really understand why you persist with this argument. You have raised some valid points which should be looked at and considered in the scheme of things but most of the diatribe you present here seems aimed at China/Chinese Government. I have always found prejudices cloud peoples judgement. To sumarise how this problem will probably be viewed; Google created a dns based system (for GAE addressing) which puts everything though ghs.google.com. This system works really well and from my experience it was very clever and efficient. However it has an issue with firewalls that got overlooked. Google has just recently been made aware of this problem. On Apr 5, 12:53 pm, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote: Feel free to hair-split the word obligation. It's the plain meaning of the word. I apologise for not knowing that you didn't know what it meant when you wrote that Google had an obligation to make GAE available in China. Are there other statements that you made without understanding their meaning? China availability issue is one of the few issues where folks claim that/act like Google has an obligation even though it's an issue where Google has very little capability to change things. That's why I want to hear from a Google representative on their plan. I predict that if Google says anything, it will be roughly equivalent to we're doing what we can. At that point, you'll have to decide if the results, which will vary with the whim of the Chinese govt, are adequate for your purposes. Of course, if you're better at dealing with the Chinese govt than Google is Now just accept that fact and act accordingly. And the basis for this order is... On Apr 4, 6:11 pm, Andy selforgani...@gmail.com wrote: I'm someone who understands that obligations come from laws and contracts. Feel free to point to the relevant chapter and verse that However, absent a contract and/or a law, Google isn't obligated to make GAE applications visible in China. Feel free to hair-split the word obligation. Does Google have the legal obligation to solve this problem? No. Just like Google doesn't have any legal obligation to improve this service or add any new features. Does that mean users should stop posting any thread that's about improving GAE? Does that mean you're going to start polluting every single thread in this forum by posting your 'Google has no legal obligation to do this drivel? Good for you. And Google may, or may not, offer such an option. Note may not - they're under no obligation to do so. (I don't presume to know the risks and costs of offering such an option. After all, China can block at the edge of the data centers, impose conditions, or even shut them down.) Another zero-value drivel. Yes Google may or may not offer that solution, just like they may or may not offer any solution to any other problems raised in this forum That's why I want to hear from a Google representative on their plan. Your speculation on what Google may or may not do is just that, worthless speculation that serves no purpose in this discussion. You're right to not presume to know though, seeing how you don't know anything in this matter. Now just accept that fact and act accordingly. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
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