[google-appengine] Re: Upload data
'That would leave out other operating systems ...' - That's what I call lack of creativity. Never heard of browser detecting respond systems? Offering the needed hints browser dependent would even improve your service. - 'The GAE site should contain ' - Yea, when you set your targets so wrong it's understandable that your are lost. Better redefine your target to 'GAE should reach it's customers and stop dropping necessary parts of explanation only because you can find them elsewhere if you would know that you have to start endless searches because these GAE guys like to waste your working time.' - 'I got the remote API working' - no wonder that the expert can't see a problem in steps which are self-evident for him. But being in service it's your task to explain just these steps which aren't self-evident for your customer at all. - Overall it's even more your attitude than the content of your explanations which needs improvement. You should think about, if you will go on playing king djidjadji and waste your employer's time to treat your customers with impertinence http://lmgtfy.com/?q=PYTHONPATH or if you will open your eyes for reality and begin to think about how to improve your service and yourself. King regards, Holger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: How to store a dictionary in appengine
You can write a property that stores a dictionary. Search this list and the Appengine-Cookbook. The method is converting the dictionary with the pickle module or the simple JSON module to text and store it in a TextProperty or BlobProperty. And when needed 'decode' it. 2009/7/26 Bob : > > Hi, > > I'd like to know how to save a python dictionary datatype in > appengine? > > Thanks, > Bob > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] How do Singletons in Google App Engine (or more generally in a distributed server environment) work?
Hi, I am intrigued as to how singletons work in Google App Engine. Given your application can be running in multiple processes (on multiple machines) at once, and requests can get routed all off the place, what actually happens under the hood when an app does something like: 'CacheManager.getInstance()'? I'm just using the CacheManager as an example, but my point is, there is a single global application instance of a singleton somewhere, so where does it live? Is an RPC invoked? In fact, how is global application state (like sessions) actually handled generally? Regards, Shane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Upload data
That would leave out all the users of those other operating systems (Windows-7, Vista, XP, Win Me, Win98). And the Mac users and there flavors and Solaris, Vax-VMS, HP-UX, IRIX, Linux distros, Playstation-3. And then the google guys would leave out just that OS that I'm using. The GAE site should contain info that you can't find anywhere else. There are a lot of good python sites and books (paper and pdf). For OS specific stuff you have to use the docs for your OS. I got the remote API working without the blog from Bill Katz, the Article by Nick Johnson was enough. I know Bill's article was there first but you speak in the present time. Learning people how to find information is much more valuable then giving it on a plate. 2009/7/25 Holger : > > By the way > > that funny tool of djidjadji > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=PYTHONPATH > > is a sample how you could integrate necessary hints without blowing > your explanations to books. > > Instead of demonstrating how Google works (giving your customers the > felling that they must be total idiots) you could demonstrate in a > similar way where to click in Windows and what to write in which box. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] How to store a dictionary in appengine
Hi, I'd like to know how to save a python dictionary datatype in appengine? Thanks, Bob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Upload data
By the way that funny tool of djidjadji http://lmgtfy.com/?q=PYTHONPATH is a sample how you could integrate necessary hints without blowing your explanations to books. Instead of demonstrating how Google works (giving your customers the felling that they must be total idiots) you could demonstrate in a similar way where to click in Windows and what to write in which box. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Upload data
Thanks, John. And you, Hrishikesh Bakshi, please take courage. You have got a great product. You don`'t need to poke fun on your customers or to search for excuses (the Python checkbox just doesn't solve the problem as not python but the yaml needs to be mentioned) - you can look forward prouldy and say we'll be better and better and love our customers. Then you'll be part of the success. Holger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Upload data
Hi Holger, Google's documentation can and should improve. App Engine are in preview release at the moment. I am sure the documentation will be much better once it is fully released. I felt the same about the documentation until I realized this fact. On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Holger wrote: > > Hi Hrishikesh Bakshi, > > instead of serching the sulking corner and distributing funny stars > you should better think about how to improve the Upload data > documentation that it doesn't need the Bill Katz article 'Remote_API > Hello World' and a lot of chat requests to understand what your > developers created. > > See my posting > > http://groups.google.de/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/2969e1134d5444d1?hl=en > > Kind regards, > Holger > > > > -- Cheers, John Creative Director / Software Engineer Digital Eternal (http://www.digitaleternal.com) Web Design/Development, Business Strategy, Internet Advertising, SEO, Branding --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Upload data
Hi Holger, During Python install on windows, there is a check box saying "add path variable to system path". If you had done that you would have saved yourself some time. App Engine is new, documentation will improve. Your posting is not entirely useless. But it requires the reader to read another page and then again read your post. On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Holger wrote: > > Hi Hrishikesh Bakshi, > > instead of serching the sulking corner and distributing funny stars > you should better think about how to improve the Upload data > documentation that it doesn't need the Bill Katz article 'Remote_API > Hello World' and a lot of chat requests to understand what your > developers created. > > See my lame posting > > http://groups.google.de/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/2969e1134d5444d1?hl=en > > Kind regards, > Holger > > > > -- Hrishikesh Bakshi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Upload data
Hi Hrishikesh Bakshi, instead of serching the sulking corner and distributing funny stars you should better think about how to improve the Upload data documentation that it doesn't need the Bill Katz article 'Remote_API Hello World' and a lot of chat requests to understand what your developers created. See my posting http://groups.google.de/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/2969e1134d5444d1?hl=en Kind regards, Holger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Upload data
Hi Hrishikesh Bakshi, 'made for people who love ...' - do you really believe Google is a charity organization. Come down to reality. Google is a company offering sevices to earn money and pay its staff. And this service should be customer friendy - otherwise Goolge will disappear as GM just did. If the Google staff isn't able to expess itself in a way understandable for normal people this staff has to learn or to leave. I don't want anybody to write my code I just don't want to be robbed my working time by explanations written in a way that peeple need to ask 28.627 questions (postings in this group) to get it working. And if Google staff lacks creativity how to improve their explanation they could at least attach sample code to make up for the black holes in their explanations. Kind regards, Holger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Upload data
App engine is made for people who love to code and learn new things on their own. Not for people who want everything coded for them. For that go to http://wordpress.com . Also app engine documentation is improving. If you want examples go here: http://code.google.com/p/google-app-engine-samples/ On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Holger wrote: > > Dear djidjadji, > > you do a great expert work, but sometimes experts got blind, loosing > their feeling for the real world. > > This happened IBM when inventing the two letters p and c and being > overcome my Bill. > > That happened to Bill when being overcome by these Google guys > > Shall that happen to Google too ? > > - > > Naturally writing your explanations not for your own 100,000 experts > who don't really need such explanation but for these 100.000.000 mass > customers Google should have in mind, that isn't possible with the > abstract scientific explanation style you follow now. > > You really need to be creative and find better ways of explanation. > What about downloadable example code working out of the box for every > programming step? Would that blow up your explanations to books? > > - > > What you really need is a feeling for your customers. As long as you > inwardly are laughing on your dump customers and deliver links lists > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=PYTHONPATH > whose second target reads: > 'Please, only post meaningful and useful information.' > (http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread?t=7412 - in fact humans > usually read only three lines of text, what comes later is useless.) > > you are in great danger to be overcome soon by somebody more clever > then Google. > > Kind regards, > Holger > > > Dear djidjadji, > > you do a great expert work, but sometimes experts got blind, loosing > their feeling for the real world. > > This happened IBM when inventing the two letters p and c and beeing > overcome my Bill. > > That happened Bill when beeing overcome by these google guys > > Shall that happen Google too ? > > - > > Naturally writing your explanations not for your own 100,000 experts > who don't really need such explanation but for these 100.000.000 mass > customers Google should have in mind, that isn't possible with the > abstract scientific explanation style you follow now. > > You really need to be creative and find better ways of explanation. > What about downloadable example code working out of the box for every > programming step? Would that blow up your explanations to books? > > - > > What you really need is a feeling for your customers. As long as you > inwardly are laughing on your dump customers and deliver links lists > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=PYTHONPATH > whose second targed reads: > 'Please, only post meaningful and useful information.' > (http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread?t=7412) > > you are in great danger to be overcome soon by somebody more clever > then Google. > > Kind regards, > Holger > > > > On Jul 25, 8:31 am, djidjadji wrote: > > If every GAE page was written for the python starter it would be a big > book. > > You could follow this link > > > > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=PYTHONPATH > > > > 2009/7/25 Holger : > > > > -- Hrishikesh Bakshi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Upload data
Dear djidjadji, you do a great expert work, but sometimes experts got blind, loosing their feeling for the real world. This happened IBM when inventing the two letters p and c and being overcome my Bill. That happened to Bill when being overcome by these Google guys Shall that happen to Google too ? - Naturally writing your explanations not for your own 100,000 experts who don't really need such explanation but for these 100.000.000 mass customers Google should have in mind, that isn't possible with the abstract scientific explanation style you follow now. You really need to be creative and find better ways of explanation. What about downloadable example code working out of the box for every programming step? Would that blow up your explanations to books? - What you really need is a feeling for your customers. As long as you inwardly are laughing on your dump customers and deliver links lists http://lmgtfy.com/?q=PYTHONPATH whose second target reads: 'Please, only post meaningful and useful information.' (http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread?t=7412 - in fact humans usually read only three lines of text, what comes later is useless.) you are in great danger to be overcome soon by somebody more clever then Google. Kind regards, Holger Dear djidjadji, you do a great expert work, but sometimes experts got blind, loosing their feeling for the real world. This happened IBM when inventing the two letters p and c and beeing overcome my Bill. That happened Bill when beeing overcome by these google guys Shall that happen Google too ? - Naturally writing your explanations not for your own 100,000 experts who don't really need such explanation but for these 100.000.000 mass customers Google should have in mind, that isn't possible with the abstract scientific explanation style you follow now. You really need to be creative and find better ways of explanation. What about downloadable example code working out of the box for every programming step? Would that blow up your explanations to books? - What you really need is a feeling for your customers. As long as you inwardly are laughing on your dump customers and deliver links lists http://lmgtfy.com/?q=PYTHONPATH whose second targed reads: 'Please, only post meaningful and useful information.' (http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread?t=7412) you are in great danger to be overcome soon by somebody more clever then Google. Kind regards, Holger On Jul 25, 8:31 am, djidjadji wrote: > If every GAE page was written for the python starter it would be a big book. > You could follow this link > > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=PYTHONPATH > > 2009/7/25 Holger : --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
