date:20101020

Good eyes! No, this isn't ready for use yet. You can't get an instance of
AsyncDatastoreService. The backend isn't ready for this call. We wanted to
release this, but there were showstopper bugs that prevented us from
shipping it. Look for it in an upcoming release.

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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM, timwhunt timwh...@gmail.com wrote:

Someone pointed out in the Objectify group that there is now an
AsyncDatastoreService in the docs - see

http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/javadoc/com/google/appengine/api/datastore/AsyncDatastoreService.html

I don't believe this was mentioned in any release notes, but I think
it is new (Did I miss it?).

So is it ready for regular use?

I don't see any query methods on the service like prepare(Query
query). Can a query be done asynchronously? How?

I've been looking forward to asynchronous Datastore access, so I'm
glad to see this!

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[appengine-java] Re: java.net.InetAddress present in new 1.3.8 SDK but not on live servers

2010-10-20 Thread mscwd01

Ikai, did you get a chance to look into this? When can we expect every
app to be upgraded to 1.3.8?

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Re: [appengine-java] Re: java.net.InetAddress present in new 1.3.8 SDK but not on live servers

You're in the 1.3.8 pool. I don't know why you are getting the error, since
others are reporting that it's working fine for them. I'm hoping to try to
reproduce this when I get a chance.

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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:27 PM, mscwd01 mscw...@gmail.com wrote:

Okay now I'm confused. I added a quick test page to see what version
my app is running and it appears I am on 1.3.8.

http://aduru-app.appspot.com/test.jsp

How can I be getting this error then?

Internal Server Error (500) - com/google/apphosting/runtime/security/
shared/stub/java/net/InetAddress
...
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/google/apphosting/
runtime/security/shared/stub/java/net/InetAddress

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Ikai, did you get a chance to look into this? When can we expect every
app to be upgraded to 1.3.8?

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[appengine-java] Automatic logout via Google Login Service ?

2010-10-20 Thread Didier Durand

Hello,

I implemented UserService with GWT to get the login service of Google
Accounts. Works fine with the provided login and logout links.

But, Google Accounts will accept login for all the accounts it knows
(much much more than my application with a few users only)

How can I force logout of a user that Google Accounts accepts right
after the login because my application doesn't know this user ?

Thanks
didier

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Re: [appengine-java] OpenID Development server

2010-10-20 Thread Fabrizio Accatino

Issue opened
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3922
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3922

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[google-appengine] Roadmap for SSL on 3rd party domains?

All the posts about this seem to be from 2008.

I see SSL for 3rd party domains is on the roadmap.

Anyone have any insight about approximately when this might become a
reality?

I started developing an app for app-engine, but this is an obvious show
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RE: [google-appengine] Local dev sandbox doesn't appear to serialize sessions to the datastore the same as the production

I don't personally touch the session, but the Spring Security Framework
seems to put my implementation of the UserDetailsService object on the
session (used to populate user details for authentication information to the
security framework).

 

Do you suggest that I extend the Spring Security Framework to move this
functionality? If so, has anyone done this before that I might follow that
you know of?

 

David

 

 

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Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Local dev sandbox doesn't appear to
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What are you serializing? In general, it's a best practice to store as
little into the session as possible and retrieve state data from memcache or
the datastore.



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On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:18 AM, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote:

My first real issue in GAE was that the session is serialized and
stored to the datastore on the GAE servers. This is all well and good,
but it doesn't happen on the local dev instance as far as I can see.

Thus I ran into a situation where I got runtime exceptions (due to a
session class not implementing serializable, easy fix) that occurred
only in the production environment and not in dev.

It seems like a reasonable enhancement request to have the local dev
server emulate the same activity upon occasion such that errors like
this can be dealt with locally. The two environments should be as
close to identical as possible.

I always like to post such things before submitting them formally in
case there's any missed reasoning on my part. Comments?

Also, where does one go about posting such enhancement requests (I'm a
new GAE user).

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[google-appengine] Re: Video streaming - possible, or not?

2010-10-20 Thread aah

Hi Mark,

Maybe AppEngine could be combined with something like
http://www.bitsontherun.com/system-apis

-aah

On Oct 19, 4:10 am, Mark mar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm looking to upload a video file into the blobstore, then stream it
 to a flash player. I'm not sure if this is possible or not because I
 see conflicting messages here about support for it.

 I know there's a 30 second http connection limit. I'm not sure if that
 counts towards streaming a file.

 I would host the videos on youtube, but the video content for this app
 is supposed to be 'protected', meaning I don't want to let people view
 the video unless authenticated. Using the youtube api would be an easy
 win otherwise.

 Thanks

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[google-appengine] Re: Eclipse plugin with 1.3.8 doesn't recognize local data from 1.3.7 (local_db.bin)

2010-10-20 Thread l.denardo

Do you mean you were able to read old (I mean created using 1.3.7)
data using 1.3.8?

For what I've tried (and read reports about) switching to 1.3.8 does
not show old data, but the local_bd.bin is left untouched, so simply
reverting to 1.3.7 will work.
Ikai Lan replied that this is a known issue that is under
investigation.

If you managed to see your old data in 1.3.8 can you please give some
advice about how doing so?

Thanks very much
Lorenzo

On Oct 19, 11:34 pm, Aurelian aurelian.vacar...@googlemail.com
wrote:
 i had the same problem, but fortunately was able to restore the
 local_db.bin file from git version control.

 happy coding

 On Oct 19, 3:53 pm, Marc Hacker marc1hac...@gmail.com wrote:

  When I compile in eclipse using the new app engine 1.3.8 my app finds
  no data that was saved into the local datastore when I previously ran
  under 1.3.7. When I recompile using 1.3.7 everything works great.

  Somehow 1.3.8 is not recognizing a local_db.bin file saved with 1.3.7

  Issue raised:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3909

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[google-appengine] Re: Django version conflicts - now also in production

2010-10-20 Thread Terje Dahl

Well.  I saw now other sollution.  The errors were hurting me.
I reverted to using the default version of Django (0.96.x).

I simply removed the use_library statement.
And i my case I only had to fix a couple of temlates (by removing the
safe-filter),
and one client had to be fixed, as I guess the HttResponseRedirect in
0.96 doesn't seem to reslove a relative url to an absolute one.
But no problem, though.

Oh.  And don't forget to switch to using the documentation for 0.96.

Now back to my care-free life.   ;-)




On Oct 18, 1:47 pm, Terje Dahl te...@terjedahl.no wrote:
 In my app I use Django version 1.0, in stead of the default version
 0.96.

 To do this I have the following statements in my application entry
 point script (as per instructions):

 from google.appengine.dist import use_library
 use_library('django', '1.0')

 This has from the start (the last 16 months)  often caused an error
 which has forced me to restart my developer environment.
 But I have thought nothing of it, as it has worked flawlessy in
 production - until now.

 Now, the last couple of weeks I have gotten the same type of error a
 couple of times in production.
 The only cure has been to quickly upload a new version and make it
 default.  Luckily I have had non-altered code at hand so I could do
 this quickly and easily.  But I might have been in the middle of
 altering my code for a next version.  What then? ...  (Yes, yes.  I
 know. Version controlled code repository.)  But I digress.

 Anyways.  Why has this error now started appearing?
 And what is to be done about it?!

 Here is the error message from the log:

 10-18 04:03AM 17.255
 class 'google.appengine.dist._library.UnacceptableVersionError':
 django 1.0 was requested, but 0.96.4.None is already in use
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /base/data/home/apps/spraklab35/6.345421897971373021/main.py,
 line 6, in module
     use_library('django', '1.0')
   File /base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/
 dist/_library.py, line 284, in use_library
     InstallLibrary(name, version, explicit=True)
   File /base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/
 dist/_library.py, line 243, in InstallLibrary
     CheckInstalledVersion(name, version, explicit=True)
   File /base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/
 dist/_library.py, line 190, in CheckInstalledVersion
     (name, desired_version, installed_version))

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[google-appengine] ID/Name

2010-10-20 Thread Massimiliano

Dear All,
in the datastore viewer I see that all the record are stored with a ID/Name,
how can I refer to it?
I mean I want to use this to refer to the user of my website, in the file
manager the reference is element.what???
I'm searching in the documentation but I can't understand.

Thanks

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[google-appengine] Can't login in App Engine web interface

2010-10-20 Thread Vladimir Prudnikov

Hello,
I can't login in app engine web interface using Google Chrome. It
happens with apps hosted on appengine too. The error is:

Request-URI Too Large
The requested URL /accounts/SetSID... is too large to process.

My password is 14 symbols length. It works fine in Safari. Looks like
Chrome works differently.

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[google-appengine] Re: Frequent deadline exceeded errors.

2010-10-20 Thread Carlos Ble

Hi,
We are facing several DeadlineExceededError since yesterday. Appid =
mavencharts

10-20 04:30AM 24.323 / 500 31863ms 1539cpu_ms

At that time Average QPS was about 0.04 and there was 2 instances
running.

Thanks

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 Last 3-4 days my app has like 80% DeadlineExceededErro; app ID is
 pixycity. That's sort of unacceptable. Please let us know what's
 happening. Thanks
 -stepan

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[google-appengine] Re: Frequent deadline exceeded errors.

2010-10-20 Thread Carlos Ble

Our site is dead right now because of this issues.

10-20 04:40AM 21.692 / 500 31489ms 500cpu_ms

Total number of instances   Average QPS Average Latency Average
Memory
1 total 0.033   30463.0 ms  31.8 MBytes
Instances QPS   Latency Memory
0.033   30463.0 ms  31.8 MBytes

Is there anything we can do to make our site work again?



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 Hi,
 We are facing several DeadlineExceededError since yesterday. Appid =
 mavencharts

 10-20 04:30AM 24.323 / 500 31863ms 1539cpu_ms

 At that time Average QPS was about 0.04 and there was 2 instances
 running.

 Thanks

 On 18 oct, 12:03, Stepan stepan.wag...@gmail.com wrote:

  Last 3-4 days my app has like 80% DeadlineExceededErro; app ID is
  pixycity. That's sort of unacceptable. Please let us know what's
  happening. Thanks
  -stepan



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[google-appengine] Re: Frequent deadline exceeded errors.

2010-10-20 Thread Carlos Ble

More info:

10-20 04:41AM 48.795 / 500 38679ms 919cpu_ms -
(DeadeLineExceededError)

Instances:

Total number of instances   Average QPS Average Latency Average
Memory
2 total 0.017   160.2 ms35.4 MBytes
Instances QPS   Latency Memory
0.000   0.0 ms  39.6 MBytes
0.033   320.5 ms31.2 MBytes


On 20 oct, 12:40, Carlos Ble ble.jur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 We are facing several DeadlineExceededError since yesterday. Appid =
 mavencharts

 10-20 04:30AM 24.323 / 500 31863ms 1539cpu_ms

 At that time Average QPS was about 0.04 and there was 2 instances
 running.

 Thanks

 On 18 oct, 12:03, Stepan stepan.wag...@gmail.com wrote:

  Last 3-4 days my app has like 80% DeadlineExceededErro; app ID is
  pixycity. That's sort of unacceptable. Please let us know what's
  happening. Thanks
  -stepan



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Re: [google-appengine] ID/Name

In python:
  entity.key().id()
  entity.key().name()
  entity.key().id_or_name()



Robert







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massimiliano.pietr...@gmail.com wrote:
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 in the datastore viewer I see that all the record are stored with a ID/Name,
 how can I refer to it?
 I mean I want to use this to refer to the user of my website, in the file
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[google-appengine] Re: Roadmap for SSL on 3rd party domains?

2010-10-20 Thread Kenneth

According to the issue tracker someone started working on it last
week: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=792

According to the App Engine For Business Roadmap it will be a limited
release by the end of this year: 
http://code.google.com/appengine/business/roadmap.html

What I really would like to know is how they're going to do it: sni
(could be free once you have the cert), fixed ip (will cost something)
or some other voodoo.

I don't see why this is a showstopper for you though.


On Oct 20, 7:03 am, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote:
 All the posts about this seem to be from 2008.

 I see SSL for 3rd party domains is on the roadmap.

 Anyone have any insight about approximately when this might become a
 reality?

 I started developing an app for app-engine, but this is an obvious show
 stopper that I overlooked. I need to know if I should jump ship early
 or keep onboard.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Video streaming - possible, or not?

2010-10-20 Thread Mark Wyszomierski

Ah, I grossly over-estimated the size of the videos I'll be working with.
They'll be more in the size range of a few mb. So this seems easier to get
going business-wise.

If anyone has any walkthroughs about video streaming and app engine, that'd
be great. If not, I'll be happy to post a walk-through once I get it done,

Thanks all,
Mark

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:41 AM, aah aalvara...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Mark,

Maybe AppEngine could be combined with something like
http://www.bitsontherun.com/system-apis

-aah

On Oct 19, 4:10 am, Mark mar...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,

I'm looking to upload a video file into the blobstore, then stream it
to a flash player. I'm not sure if this is possible or not because I
see conflicting messages here about support for it.

I know there's a 30 second http connection limit. I'm not sure if that
counts towards streaming a file.

I would host the videos on youtube, but the video content for this app
is supposed to be 'protected', meaning I don't want to let people view
the video unless authenticated. Using the youtube api would be an easy
win otherwise.

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Re: [google-appengine] ID/Name

2010-10-20 Thread Massimiliano

Thanks!

2010/10/20 Robert Kluin robert.kl...@gmail.com

In python:
entity.key().id()
entity.key().name()
entity.key().id_or_name()

Robert

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massimiliano.pietr...@gmail.com wrote:
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in the datastore viewer I see that all the record are stored with a
ID/Name,
how can I refer to it?
I mean I want to use this to refer to the user of my website, in the file
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[google-appengine] Datastore viewer GQL tick box missing, can't enter GQL

2010-10-20 Thread Kenneth

The tick box that allows you to enter GQL for the datastore viewer has
gone awol.  If you enter any gql in the datastore viewer it just gets
deleted when you click submit query.

Or is it just me?

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Re: [google-appengine] Datastore viewer GQL tick box missing, can't enter GQL

Works fine for me. Under the 'kind' select, when I click 'options' I
get a box I can enter and run a GQL query in.

Maybe your browser?  I'm using a FF4 beta.


Robert






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 The tick box that allows you to enter GQL for the datastore viewer has
 gone awol.  If you enter any gql in the datastore viewer it just gets
 deleted when you click submit query.

 Or is it just me?

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[google-appengine] Re: Datastore viewer GQL tick box missing, can't enter GQL

2010-10-20 Thread Kenneth

Yes, browser issue.  I had my user agent in ff set to ie8.  Switched
it back and it works fine.  I wonder if this happens in ie?  Wow, I
really don't care.

Thanks Robert.


On Oct 20, 4:20 pm, Robert Kluin robert.kl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Works fine for me. Under the 'kind' select, when I click 'options' I
 get a box I can enter and run a GQL query in.

 Maybe your browser?  I'm using a FF4 beta.

 Robert







 On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:16, Kenneth goo...@kmacleod.ie wrote:
  The tick box that allows you to enter GQL for the datastore viewer has
  gone awol.  If you enter any gql in the datastore viewer it just gets
  deleted when you click submit query.

  Or is it just me?

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Datastore viewer GQL tick box missing, can't enter GQL

l0l...   :)


I do not use ie either, so no idea




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 Yes, browser issue.  I had my user agent in ff set to ie8.  Switched
 it back and it works fine.  I wonder if this happens in ie?  Wow, I
 really don't care.

 Thanks Robert.


 On Oct 20, 4:20 pm, Robert Kluin robert.kl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Works fine for me. Under the 'kind' select, when I click 'options' I
 get a box I can enter and run a GQL query in.

 Maybe your browser?  I'm using a FF4 beta.

 Robert







 On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:16, Kenneth goo...@kmacleod.ie wrote:
  The tick box that allows you to enter GQL for the datastore viewer has
  gone awol.  If you enter any gql in the datastore viewer it just gets
  deleted when you click submit query.

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[google-appengine] Re: Cound not acces my site. (times out / connection failed)

2010-10-20 Thread antichrist

Here is South Korea (Republic of Korea)

So No one have issue of China's Firewall.

My users live in korea.

On 10월20일, 오전5시11분, nickmilon nickmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Most probably you have issues with China's Firewall.

 On Oct 19, 7:50 pm, antichrist ttlt...@gmail.com wrote:



  I launched my website using google app engine, but my user complain
  about connectivity.

  They said they can access site at sometime, but sometimecan't.

  I found thread below, but here(Korea) have no government issue.

  AppEngine timesout/connectionfailed when trying to access from
  China(http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/
  thread/94f21927b928eedd/3b1faa3bcdaeb490?lnk=gstq=connection
  +fail#3b1faa3bcdaeb490)

  Can anyone think about reason?- 원본 텍스트 숨기기 -

 - 원본 텍스트 보기 -

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Frequent deadline exceeded errors.

2010-10-20 Thread TAKEUCHI POMU

My app(appid: mb4sqjp) also have similar problem for these couple of days...

Sometimes it leaves message I've never seen.

For the most part, log says
- Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service
your request. This may happen sporadically when the App Engine serving
cluster is under unexpectedly high or uneven load. If you see this
message frequently, please contact the App Engine team.

I also found,
- 10-20 08:44AM 03.505
A serious problem was encountered with the process that handled this
request, causing it to exit. This is likely to cause a new process to
be used for the next request to your application. If you see this
message frequently, you should contact the App Engine team. (Error
code 203)

I saw this message for the first time,
- Failed startup of context
com.google.apphosting.utils.jetty.runtimeappenginewebappcont...@831a91{/,/base/data/home/apps/mb4sqjp/xxx.345605032354519732}
com.google.apphosting.runtime.security.SystemFailureException: Unable
to get a resource
at
com.google.appengine.runtime.Request.process-75e3768d20b77cee(Request.java)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:268)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:336)

Other versions of my app also end with 500 very frequently.

Thanks in advance,
Pomu

2010/10/20 Carlos Ble ble.jur...@gmail.com:
More info:

10-20 04:41AM 48.795 / 500 38679ms 919cpu_ms -
(DeadeLineExceededError)

Instances:

Total number of instances Average QPS Average Latency
Average
Memory
2 total 0.017 160.2 ms 35.4 MBytes
Instances QPS Latency Memory
0.000 0.0 ms 39.6 MBytes
0.033 320.5 ms 31.2 MBytes

On 20 oct, 12:40, Carlos Ble ble.jur...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
We are facing several DeadlineExceededError since yesterday. Appid =
mavencharts

10-20 04:30AM 24.323 / 500 31863ms 1539cpu_ms

At that time Average QPS was about 0.04 and there was 2 instances
running.

Thanks

On 18 oct, 12:03, Stepan stepan.wag...@gmail.com wrote:

Last 3-4 days my app has like 80% DeadlineExceededErro; app ID is
pixycity. That's sort of unacceptable. Please let us know what's
happening. Thanks
-stepan

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RE: [google-appengine] Re: Roadmap for SSL on 3rd party domains?

Great info, this is exactly what I couldn't track down, thanks! I'll keep
apprised of changes, that might just coincide with our release, or at least
shortly thereafter and I'll be able to migrate back onto GAE soon.

I can't imagine lack of SSL not being a showstopper, to me it makes a
webhosting provider irrelevant without it. Specifically we will process
credit card transactions and need to accept and relay the financial data
(not just doing a paypal/google payments re-directs because we offer a more
complex auto re-charge option requiring us to handle the card info and
obtain a transaction id for future reference). Beyond that in general I
don't want account pages unsecured. I can't think of many websites of
significance that don't employ SSL somewhere. 

And of course re-directs to myapp.appspot.com is just unprofessional,
unacceptable, and I imagine a pain in the rear with cookie/session issues
(that's would be one ugly hack).

Thanks for the quick and detailed response! It was very helpful!
Dave



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[mailto:google-appeng...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:10 PM
To: Google App Engine
Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Roadmap for SSL on 3rd party domains?

According to the issue tracker someone started working on it last
week: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=792

According to the App Engine For Business Roadmap it will be a limited
release by the end of this year:
http://code.google.com/appengine/business/roadmap.html

What I really would like to know is how they're going to do it: sni (could
be free once you have the cert), fixed ip (will cost something) or some
other voodoo.

I don't see why this is a showstopper for you though.


On Oct 20, 7:03 am, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote:
 All the posts about this seem to be from 2008.

 I see SSL for 3rd party domains is on the roadmap.

 Anyone have any insight about approximately when this might become a 
 reality?

 I started developing an app for app-engine, but this is an obvious 
 show stopper that I overlooked. I need to know if I should jump ship 
 early or keep onboard.

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[google-appengine] Google apps engine for Business pricing Q

I'm looking at Google apps engine for Businesses, and in the pricing it
says:

Each application costs $8 per user, up to a maximum of $1000, per month. 

Can someone explain to me what a user is in this context? I can't find any
explanation. Is this just the user that creates the app on
appengine.google.com? Meaning $8 allows you to create up to 10 apps +
billable usage over the free quota? Or is there no free quota on the
business edition?

 

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Announcing the Matcher API for Trusted Testers

No, it's not on the roadmap. You can check this roadmap here:

http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/roadmap.html

Note that our roadmap is not an exhaustive list of everything we intend to
do, just a list of the highest priority items for us.

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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:27 PM, MasterGaurav gaurav.va...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Ikai,

 That's a fantastic news!

 btw wondering if processing pipeline architecture is somewhere down
 the line in the roadmap?
 I have been working with FAST and OpenPipe, to name a couple, for
 document processing... and it will be great to have such a feature
 incorporated. Is something in roadmap yet? Or any visbility on the
 same?



 -Gaurav
 www.mastergaurav.com


 On Oct 20, 5:36 am, Ikai Lan (Google) 
 ikai.l+gro...@google.comikai.l%2bgro...@google.com
 
 wrote:
  That's my fault, here's a working link:
 
  https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/google.com/viewform?hl=enformkey=d...
 
  And yes, Java support is coming.
 
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  On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Nickolas Daskalou n...@daskalou.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi Ikai,
 
   I've tried accessing the trusted tester list but I get this permission
   error from Google Docs:
 
   We're sorry, my email address does not have permission to access this
   spreadsheet.
 
   You are signed in as my email address, but that email address doesn't
   have permission to access this spreadsheet. (Sign in as a different
 user or
   request access to this document)
 
   where my email address is this email address I'm sending from now
 (it's
   my Google Apps + Google Account email address).
 
   Nick
 
On 20 October 2010 11:10, Ikai Lan (Google) 
   ikai.l+gro...@google.comikai.l%2bgro...@google.com
 ikai.l%2bgro...@google.com ikai.l%252bgro...@google.com
wrote:
 
Hey everyone,
 
   I wanted to announce that we are accepting signups for trusted testers
 for
   the Python Matcher API, which is available for local testing in the
 1.3.8
   SDK. The Matcher API allows developers to take advantage of Google's
 high
   performance matching infrastructure. Developers will be able to
 register a
   large number of queries for incoming documents to be matched against.
 The
   API will then match these queries against numerical and text
 properties of
   incoming data at a very high rate.
 
   To better illustrate what the Matcher API can do, let’s pretend you
 are
   building a site that notifies users on stock ticker price changes.
 That is -
   a user of the site might sign up and register to receive alerts
 anytime
   BRK.A is greater than $500 but lower than $525 (by the way, if
 Berkshire
   Hathaway is ever in this price range, sell everything you have and
 buy.
   Disclosure: I am not a registered financial advisor). Here’s how this
 might
   be implemented on App Engine before:
 
   1. When a user wants to create a new alert, a new AlertCondition
 entity is
   created. This entity records the ticker_symbol, min_price, max_price,
 and
   email to notify.
 
   2. On an incoming notification of a stock price change of BRK.A
 between
   $500 and $525, we filter AlertCondition entities. Entities that match
 are
   returned, and from these entities, we create offline tasks to email
 each of
   the users about the price change.
 
   This works decently, given that we don’t have many stock price changes
 or
   many alerts in the system. As the number of AlertConditions go up, we
 will
   need to change our application to break the queries into multiple
 pages, or
   even move them into task queues. Unfortunately for us, stock prices
 change
   very frequently, and (we hope) we will have many users. Fetching tens
 of
   thousands of Alert Conditions from the datastore can take on the order
 of
   seconds, causing the implementation detailed above to be difficult to
 scale
   for our expected usage.
 
   How does the Matcher API help us solve this problem?
   ---
 
   The Matcher API allows us to register a set of queries, then filter
   incoming documents against these queries in a scalable,
 high-performance
   fashion. The type of problem being solved in the stock price
 notification
   example is a good example of how the Matcher API can be used. Here’s
 what
   we’d have to do in our application using the Matcher API:
 
   1. When a user wants to create a new alert, we acquire an instance of
 a
   Python matcher object and register queries.
 
   2. On an incoming stock price change, we run the alert against the
 matcher
   and try to find all the queries that matched. As queries are found,
 the
   matcher API enqueues tasks to process the results offline.

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Cound not acces my site. (times out / connection failed)

I have not had issues connecting to my apps from S. Korea.




Robert






2010/10/20 antichrist ttlt...@gmail.com:
 Here is South Korea (Republic of Korea)

 So No one have issue of China's Firewall.

 My users live in korea.

 On 10월20일, 오전5시11분, nickmilon nickmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Most probably you have issues with China's Firewall.

 On Oct 19, 7:50 pm, antichrist ttlt...@gmail.com wrote:



  I launched my website using google app engine, but my user complain
  about connectivity.

  They said they can access site at sometime, but sometimecan't.

  I found thread below, but here(Korea) have no government issue.

  AppEngine timesout/connectionfailed when trying to access from
  China(http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/
  thread/94f21927b928eedd/3b1faa3bcdaeb490?lnk=gstq=connection
  +fail#3b1faa3bcdaeb490)

  Can anyone think about reason?- 원본 텍스트 숨기기 -

 - 원본 텍스트 보기 -

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Re: [google-appengine] Google apps engine for Business pricing Q

2010-10-20 Thread Eli Jones

Wait.. I just realized something. Does this mean that if I am the only user
of my App (and all it does it backend processing), I can pay Google $8 a
month so the engineers have to respond to any old silly e-mail I send them
(Will they have to LOL at my jokes?)? (AND I get a SLA? If the pricing
stays like this, I'm in!)

Though, for your purposes, David, the FAQ might help to clarify how unclear
the pricing is:

http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/business.html

http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/business.htmlMainly (they're still
figuring it out):

You can also use App Engine for Business to build external applications.
We’re still working out the details on pricing so stay tuned (but don’t
worry, you won’t have to pay per user!).
Note: The prices outlined here are subject to change at any time without
notice before release.

Do I have to pay for my application while I’m developing it?

No, your application remains free as long as it is in development. Only when
the application has been published and is active do you need to begin paying
for it.

At least the stated plan is that you do not need to pay per user while in
development.. so that seems nice.

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:33 PM, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.comwrote:

I’m looking at Google apps engine for Businesses, and in the pricing it
says:

*Each application costs $8 per user, up to a maximum of $1000, per month.
*

Can someone explain to me what a “user” is in this context? I can’t find
any explanation. Is this just the user that creates the app on
appengine.google.com? Meaning $8 allows you to create up to 10 apps +
billable usage over the free quota? Or is there no free quota on the
business edition?

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Re: [google-appengine] Google apps engine for Business pricing Q

2010-10-20 Thread Eli Jones

Ah, I just realized that as long as it is in development could just as
easily mean, as long as it is just on your computer and you have not
deployed to appengine.

Unless they have some other sort of formal definition for published and
active that doesn't just mean deployed.. Who knows when or how you start
paying. Anyway, I'm just here for the $8 SLA.. Though, I'm guessing they'll
add a minimum user count ;(

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Eli Jones eli.jo...@gmail.com wrote:

Wait.. I just realized something. Does this mean that if I am the only
user of my App (and all it does it backend processing), I can pay Google $8
a month so the engineers have to respond to any old silly e-mail I send them
(Will they have to LOL at my jokes?)? (AND I get a SLA? If the pricing
stays like this, I'm in!)

Though, for your purposes, David, the FAQ might help to clarify how unclear
the pricing is:

http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/business.html

http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/business.htmlMainly (they're still
figuring it out):

Do I have to pay for my application while I’m developing it?

No, your application remains free as long as it is in development. Only
when the application has been published and is active do you need to begin
paying for it.

At least the stated plan is that you do not need to pay per user while in
development.. so that seems nice.

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I’m looking at Google apps engine for Businesses, and in the pricing it
says:

*Each application costs $8 per user, up to a maximum of $1000, per month.
*

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[google-appengine] Total Files - Limit

2010-10-20 Thread MasterGaurav

Hi,

I have 2079 files in my war folder.
When I do a appcfg update war, I get a file-limit error for having
4141 files.

How can 2079 files turn into 4141 files... where am I missing out?
I remember having read somewhere that each file is counted twice in
some conditions... don't remember what's the scenario...


Any help is appreciated.


-Gaurav
www.mastergaurav.com


0% Creating staging directory
5% Scanning for jsp files.
20% Scanning files on local disk.
25% Scanned 250 files.
28% Scanned 500 files.
31% Scanned 750 files.
33% Scanned 1000 files.
34% Scanned 1250 files.
35% Scanned 1500 files.
36% Scanned 1750 files.
37% Scanned 2000 files.
37% Scanned 2250 files.
37% Scanned 2500 files.
37% Scanned 2750 files.
37% Scanned 3000 files.
37% Scanned 3250 files.
37% Scanned 3500 files.
37% Scanned 3750 files.
37% Scanned 4000 files.

java.io.IOException: Applications are limited to 3000 files, you have
4141.
Unable to update app: Applications are limited to 3000 files, you have
4141.

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[google-appengine] Re: Datastore viewer GQL tick box missing, can't enter GQL

2010-10-20 Thread Darien Caldwell

I use IE 8, the checkbox shows fine. So it sounds like FF has a bug in
it. ;)

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[google-appengine] Re: Google apps engine for Business pricing Q

2010-10-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear

My understanding that the the App Engine for Business offering you're
describing is intended for intranet applications, and that the user
count would be the number of users in your Google Apps domain.
There's no free quota because the applications aren't free in the
first place. As I understand it there's no quota system at all because
the business model is different than the pay for what you use model
in normal App Engine. (Although it may be reasonable to think you'd
still have the limits of the non-billable quotas, maybe at different
levels, to prevent, say, a 1-person organization from running some
massive cluster computing application in the cloud for super-cheap...)

Applications intended to be used by users outside your organization
would be billed differently.

On Oct 20, 12:33 pm, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I'm looking at Google apps engine for Businesses, and in the pricing it
 says:

 Each application costs $8 per user, up to a maximum of $1000, per month.

 Can someone explain to me what a user is in this context? I can't find any
 explanation. Is this just the user that creates the app on
 appengine.google.com? Meaning $8 allows you to create up to 10 apps +
 billable usage over the free quota? Or is there no free quota on the
 business edition?

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[google-appengine] building index.yaml

2010-10-20 Thread Tim Jones

Any thoughts or recommendations for efficiently creating complex index.yaml 
files?

My app has a search page that uses six different filter criteria. I'd like to 
make sure GAE is indexing all possible permutations. I've thought of only three 
ways to do this:

1. Using the dev server, manually run all possible search permutations, so that 
all the necessary indexes are auto-generated.

2. Manually write the index parameters into index.yaml

3. Write some kind of program to auto-generate the index.yaml parameters based 
on the search parameters.

#1 and #2 are prohibitively tedious. Has anyone tried #3? Does anyone have 
other suggestions? It seems like a problem others must run into relatively 
often.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Roadmap for SSL on 3rd party domains?

David,

We agree with you about SSL. It's a high priority item for us. It's just a
bit more work for us to make this piece work.

You may want to look into using a third-party provider for payments, though.
I bring this up simply because unless you are a billing provider, dealing
with money, payments and subscriptions is a mess and it would be a good idea
to outsource it so you can focus on your core product. Here's a startup I've
heard a bit about that isn't PayPal or Google Checkout: http://chargify.com/

There are also others, and I'd like to welcome folks to post providers they
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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:20 AM, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote:

Great info, this is exactly what I couldn't track down, thanks! I'll keep
apprised of changes, that might just coincide with our release, or at least
shortly thereafter and I'll be able to migrate back onto GAE soon.

I can't imagine lack of SSL not being a showstopper, to me it makes a
webhosting provider irrelevant without it. Specifically we will process
credit card transactions and need to accept and relay the financial data
(not just doing a paypal/google payments re-directs because we offer a more
complex auto re-charge option requiring us to handle the card info and
obtain a transaction id for future reference). Beyond that in general I
don't want account pages unsecured. I can't think of many websites of
significance that don't employ SSL somewhere.

And of course re-directs to myapp.appspot.com is just unprofessional,
unacceptable, and I imagine a pain in the rear with cookie/session issues
(that's would be one ugly hack).

Thanks for the quick and detailed response! It was very helpful!
Dave

-Original Message-
From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
[mailto:google-appeng...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:10 PM
To: Google App Engine
Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Roadmap for SSL on 3rd party domains?

According to the issue tracker someone started working on it last
week: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=792

According to the App Engine For Business Roadmap it will be a limited
release by the end of this year:
http://code.google.com/appengine/business/roadmap.html

What I really would like to know is how they're going to do it: sni (could
be free once you have the cert), fixed ip (will cost something) or some
other voodoo.

I don't see why this is a showstopper for you though.

On Oct 20, 7:03 am, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote:
All the posts about this seem to be from 2008.

I see SSL for 3rd party domains is on the roadmap.

Anyone have any insight about approximately when this might become a
reality?

I started developing an app for app-engine, but this is an obvious
show stopper that I overlooked. I need to know if I should jump ship
early or keep onboard.

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RE: [google-appengine] Re: Roadmap for SSL on 3rd party domains?

We actually did the integration ourselves using paypal as a processor. With
approval you can do reference transactions where paypal maintains all of the
card data and provides a transaction ID with which you can make future
charges without re-requesting payment information from the client (we offer
an auto-recharge pre-paid plan similar to a pre-paid phone). All in all it
was only a few weeks of work to hook up the paypal APIs. Hence we're just a
middle man in the process, but the user stays on our site (professional and
clean appearance), and easy to do. I don't think you can pull that off with
the cart options.

 

Anyway, thanks for the response. For now we'll probably have to host
ourselves on Amazon EC2, but will look at migrating onto google again later,
I love the concept you've put together for hosting, it's the best out there.

 

Dave

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:36 AM
To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: Roadmap for SSL on 3rd party domains?

 

David,

 

We agree with you about SSL. It's a high priority item for us. It's just a
bit more work for us to make this piece work.

 

You may want to look into using a third-party provider for payments, though.
I bring this up simply because unless you are a billing provider, dealing
with money, payments and subscriptions is a mess and it would be a good idea
to outsource it so you can focus on your core product. Here's a startup I've
heard a bit about that isn't PayPal or Google Checkout: http://chargify.com/

 

There are also others, and I'd like to welcome folks to post providers they
use.



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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:20 AM, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote:

Great info, this is exactly what I couldn't track down, thanks! I'll keep
apprised of changes, that might just coincide with our release, or at least
shortly thereafter and I'll be able to migrate back onto GAE soon.

I can't imagine lack of SSL not being a showstopper, to me it makes a
webhosting provider irrelevant without it. Specifically we will process
credit card transactions and need to accept and relay the financial data
(not just doing a paypal/google payments re-directs because we offer a more
complex auto re-charge option requiring us to handle the card info and
obtain a transaction id for future reference). Beyond that in general I
don't want account pages unsecured. I can't think of many websites of
significance that don't employ SSL somewhere.

And of course re-directs to myapp.appspot.com is just unprofessional,
unacceptable, and I imagine a pain in the rear with cookie/session issues
(that's would be one ugly hack).

Thanks for the quick and detailed response! It was very helpful!
Dave




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From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
[mailto:google-appeng...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:10 PM
To: Google App Engine
Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Roadmap for SSL on 3rd party domains?

According to the issue tracker someone started working on it last
week: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=792

According to the App Engine For Business Roadmap it will be a limited
release by the end of this year:
http://code.google.com/appengine/business/roadmap.html

What I really would like to know is how they're going to do it: sni (could
be free once you have the cert), fixed ip (will cost something) or some
other voodoo.

I don't see why this is a showstopper for you though.


On Oct 20, 7:03 am, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote:
 All the posts about this seem to be from 2008.

 I see SSL for 3rd party domains is on the roadmap.

 Anyone have any insight about approximately when this might become a
 reality?

 I started developing an app for app-engine, but this is an obvious
 show stopper that I overlooked. I need to know if I should jump ship
 early or keep onboard.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Quota numbers seem wrong

Ah, I understand now. The issue is that they are stuck at higher quota
numbers than expected.

We believe this is a bug in which the higher numbers will not change until
they are exceeded. We're investigating this.

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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Jeff Schwartz jefftschwa...@gmail.comwrote:

I am testing a new app in production and it sent out 1 email but the admin
screen showed that 20 emails had been sent out. I know it was only 1 email
that was actually sent because it is done in a task and the task was only
executed once.

1/20, that's not good :)

Any ideas on why this number is so skewed?

Thanks in advance,
Jeff

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Eli Jones eli.jo...@gmail.com wrote:

Hmm, that's neat. I see those exact numbers as well. (I haven't noticed
since I only pay attention to my main dashboard quota.)

Though, there is nothing noticeably wrong with my other quotas.

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Jamie H ja...@mhztech.com wrote:

No, I can confirm that I have 3 apps which all seem to have the same
stuck quota numbers, for both Datastore queries and
DS CPU Time. These numbers never change.

Datastore CPU Time
0% 2.49 of 2,487.70 CPU hours Okay

Datastore Queries
0% 2,073,600 of 417,311,168Okay

App ID tickettrackit, and all apps on same account all have these same
stuck numbers. It seems they have been like this ever since 9/13 ...?

On Oct 19, 12:55 pm, Ikai Lan (Google)
ikai.l+gro...@google.comikai.l%2bgro...@google.com

wrote:
I checked on all of these applications and they are reflecting numbers
that
look correct. Please let us know if this appears again.

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wrote:
appid - sodso-reminders, sodso-webs

my both apps are now showing strange values for various quota numbers
values seem to be stuck or changing only in 100 multiples
something is seriously wrong with the quota details reporting system

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[google-appengine] Re: Quota numbers seem wrong

2010-10-20 Thread powera

This should be fixed.  The problem was only with the display and not
with the actual tracking/charging of quota usage.

On Oct 19, 5:19 pm, Jeff Schwartz jefftschwa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am testing a new app in production and it sent out 1 email but the admin
 screen showed that 20 emails had been sent out. I know it was only 1 email
 that was actually sent because it is done in a task and the task was only
 executed once.

 1/20, that's not good :)

 Any ideas on why this number is so skewed?

 Thanks in advance,
 Jeff









 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Eli Jones eli.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hmm, that's neat.  I see those exact numbers as well.  (I haven't noticed
  since I only pay attention to my main dashboard quota.)

  Though, there is nothing noticeably wrong with my other quotas.

  On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Jamie H ja...@mhztech.com wrote:

  No, I can confirm that I have 3 apps which all seem to have the same
  stuck quota numbers, for both Datastore queries and
  DS CPU Time.  These numbers never change.

  Datastore CPU Time
  0%      2.49 of 2,487.70 CPU hours      Okay

  Datastore Queries
  0%      2,073,600 of 417,311,168        Okay

  App ID tickettrackit, and all apps on same account all have these same
  stuck numbers.  It seems they have been like this ever since 9/13 ...?

  On Oct 19, 12:55 pm, Ikai Lan (Google) 
  ikai.l+gro...@google.comikai.l%2bgro...@google.com

  wrote:
   I checked on all of these applications and they are reflecting numbers
  that
   look correct. Please let us know if this appears again.

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   On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:28 AM, sodso sodhisoluti...@gmail.com
  wrote:
appid - sodso-reminders, sodso-webs

my both apps are now showing strange values for various quota numbers
values seem to be stuck or changing only in 100 multiples
something is seriously wrong with the quota details reporting system

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Re: [google-appengine] building index.yaml

Hey Tim,
  It is probably not very elegant, but I guess I have used a
combination of 1 and 3.   I put together scripts to request all
combinations of the fields and let the SDK generate the indexes it
wants.  I have done this using windmill (like selenium) script to fill
in and submit forms, which we do during test anyway.  And, I have also
done it with a script used for testing queries.


Robert








On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 14:26, Tim Jones t...@eff.org wrote:
 Any thoughts or recommendations for efficiently creating complex index.yaml 
 files?

 My app has a search page that uses six different filter criteria. I'd like to 
 make sure GAE is indexing all possible permutations. I've thought of only 
 three ways to do this:

 1. Using the dev server, manually run all possible search permutations, so 
 that all the necessary indexes are auto-generated.

 2. Manually write the index parameters into index.yaml

 3. Write some kind of program to auto-generate the index.yaml parameters 
 based on the search parameters.

 #1 and #2 are prohibitively tedious. Has anyone tried #3? Does anyone have 
 other suggestions? It seems like a problem others must run into relatively 
 often.

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RE: [google-appengine] Re: Google apps engine for Business pricing Q

Oh interesting. Maybe I'm mis-understanding google's intention here. I had
hoped to use app-engine to host a generic web-facing site. It seems like a
brilliant platform for that. But perhaps this is not a primary use case
considered by google? Or maybe that's what they mean by users outside your
org would be billed differently, perhaps the whole concept is still in its
infancy.

But even so, I would be surprised, because a 100 person intranet site
shouldn’t cost a small company $800 to host (surely a typical $40-$100 VPS
on any old hosting provider would be more than sufficient).

Oh well, I guess the marketing execs have some work to do. :)



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[mailto:google-appeng...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Spear
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:22 AM
To: Google App Engine
Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Google apps engine for Business pricing Q

My understanding that the the App Engine for Business offering you're
describing is intended for intranet applications, and that the user count
would be the number of users in your Google Apps domain.
There's no free quota because the applications aren't free in the first
place. As I understand it there's no quota system at all because the
business model is different than the pay for what you use model in normal
App Engine. (Although it may be reasonable to think you'd still have the
limits of the non-billable quotas, maybe at different levels, to prevent,
say, a 1-person organization from running some massive cluster computing
application in the cloud for super-cheap...)

Applications intended to be used by users outside your organization would be
billed differently.

On Oct 20, 12:33 pm, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I'm looking at Google apps engine for Businesses, and in the pricing 
 it
 says:

 Each application costs $8 per user, up to a maximum of $1000, per month.

 Can someone explain to me what a user is in this context? I can't 
 find any explanation. Is this just the user that creates the app on 
 appengine.google.com? Meaning $8 allows you to create up to 10 apps + 
 billable usage over the free quota? Or is there no free quota on the 
 business edition?

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Quota numbers seem wrong

D'oh, Alex's email is the correct update. I misread the internal thread. The
issue should, in fact, be resolved.

Please let us know if it's not.

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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:32 PM, powera pow...@google.com wrote:

This should be fixed. The problem was only with the display and not
with the actual tracking/charging of quota usage.

On Oct 19, 5:19 pm, Jeff Schwartz jefftschwa...@gmail.com wrote:
I am testing a new app in production and it sent out 1 email but the
admin
screen showed that 20 emails had been sent out. I know it was only 1
email
that was actually sent because it is done in a task and the task was only
executed once.

1/20, that's not good :)

Any ideas on why this number is so skewed?

Thanks in advance,
Jeff

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Eli Jones eli.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm, that's neat. I see those exact numbers as well. (I haven't
noticed
since I only pay attention to my main dashboard quota.)

Though, there is nothing noticeably wrong with my other quotas.

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Jamie H ja...@mhztech.com wrote:

No, I can confirm that I have 3 apps which all seem to have the same
stuck quota numbers, for both Datastore queries and
DS CPU Time. These numbers never change.

Datastore CPU Time
0% 2.49 of 2,487.70 CPU hours Okay

Datastore Queries
0% 2,073,600 of 417,311,168Okay

App ID tickettrackit, and all apps on same account all have these same
stuck numbers. It seems they have been like this ever since 9/13 ...?

On Oct 19, 12:55 pm, Ikai Lan (Google)
ikai.l+gro...@google.comikai.l%2bgro...@google.com
ikai.l%2bgro...@google.com ikai.l%252bgro...@google.com

wrote:
I checked on all of these applications and they are reflecting
numbers
that
look correct. Please let us know if this appears again.

--
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wrote:
appid - sodso-reminders, sodso-webs

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numbers
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google apps engine for Business pricing Q

Hey David,
  You can use App Engine for building a generic internet facing site.
App Engine for Business seems to be targeting a different market
segment, businesses running intranet type apps.



Robert






On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 15:34, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Oh interesting. Maybe I'm mis-understanding google's intention here. I had
 hoped to use app-engine to host a generic web-facing site. It seems like a
 brilliant platform for that. But perhaps this is not a primary use case
 considered by google? Or maybe that's what they mean by users outside your
 org would be billed differently, perhaps the whole concept is still in its
 infancy.

 But even so, I would be surprised, because a 100 person intranet site
 shouldn’t cost a small company $800 to host (surely a typical $40-$100 VPS
 on any old hosting provider would be more than sufficient).

 Oh well, I guess the marketing execs have some work to do. :)



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 From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:google-appeng...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Spear
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:22 AM
 To: Google App Engine
 Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Google apps engine for Business pricing Q

 My understanding that the the App Engine for Business offering you're
 describing is intended for intranet applications, and that the user count
 would be the number of users in your Google Apps domain.
 There's no free quota because the applications aren't free in the first
 place. As I understand it there's no quota system at all because the
 business model is different than the pay for what you use model in normal
 App Engine. (Although it may be reasonable to think you'd still have the
 limits of the non-billable quotas, maybe at different levels, to prevent,
 say, a 1-person organization from running some massive cluster computing
 application in the cloud for super-cheap...)

 Applications intended to be used by users outside your organization would be
 billed differently.

 On Oct 20, 12:33 pm, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I'm looking at Google apps engine for Businesses, and in the pricing
 it
 says:

 Each application costs $8 per user, up to a maximum of $1000, per month.

 Can someone explain to me what a user is in this context? I can't
 find any explanation. Is this just the user that creates the app on
 appengine.google.com? Meaning $8 allows you to create up to 10 apps +
 billable usage over the free quota? Or is there no free quota on the
 business edition?

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[google-appengine] Re: Google apps engine for Business pricing Q

2010-10-20 Thread Jamie H

From what I have read they definately plan to make app engine for
business available for user facing sites, they simply have not
determined the pricing for that model yet.

On Oct 20, 2:45 pm, Robert Kluin robert.kl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey David,
   You can use App Engine for building a generic internet facing site.
 App Engine for Business seems to be targeting a different market
 segment, businesses running intranet type apps.

 Robert

 On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 15:34, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Oh interesting. Maybe I'm mis-understanding google's intention here. I had
  hoped to use app-engine to host a generic web-facing site. It seems like a
  brilliant platform for that. But perhaps this is not a primary use case
  considered by google? Or maybe that's what they mean by users outside your
  org would be billed differently, perhaps the whole concept is still in its
  infancy.

  But even so, I would be surprised, because a 100 person intranet site
  shouldn’t cost a small company $800 to host (surely a typical $40-$100 VPS
  on any old hosting provider would be more than sufficient).

  Oh well, I guess the marketing execs have some work to do. :)

  -Original Message-
  From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:google-appeng...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Spear
  Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:22 AM
  To: Google App Engine
  Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Google apps engine for Business pricing Q

  My understanding that the the App Engine for Business offering you're
  describing is intended for intranet applications, and that the user count
  would be the number of users in your Google Apps domain.
  There's no free quota because the applications aren't free in the first
  place. As I understand it there's no quota system at all because the
  business model is different than the pay for what you use model in normal
  App Engine. (Although it may be reasonable to think you'd still have the
  limits of the non-billable quotas, maybe at different levels, to prevent,
  say, a 1-person organization from running some massive cluster computing
  application in the cloud for super-cheap...)

  Applications intended to be used by users outside your organization would be
  billed differently.

  On Oct 20, 12:33 pm, David Parks davidpark...@yahoo.com wrote:
  I'm looking at Google apps engine for Businesses, and in the pricing
  it
  says:

  Each application costs $8 per user, up to a maximum of $1000, per month.

  Can someone explain to me what a user is in this context? I can't
  find any explanation. Is this just the user that creates the app on
  appengine.google.com? Meaning $8 allows you to create up to 10 apps +
  billable usage over the free quota? Or is there no free quota on the
  business edition?

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[google-appengine] Re: Multiple files upload and INPUT FILE HTML

2010-10-20 Thread JavierH

Hi,
Yes Scott, thanks, I know, I'm using multiple inputs, the problem is
that I don't want to manually select each file for each input, got my
point?

What I would like to do is to programatically assign a value to each
with the file path, so I don't have to fetch each file manually from
my disk ...
I think assigning a value to a file input is not possible for
security reasons, that's why I asked if anyone had a better idea for
uploading multiple files programatically :-)

Thanks for your response and your time ...

Cheers !

Javier

On Oct 20, 6:19 pm, Scott Ellis m...@scottellis.com.au wrote:
Some browsers support the 'multiple' attribute on a file input element.

input type='file' multiple

On 20 October 2010 14:03, JavierH javierh...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone
know if it is possible to implement a multiple file upload
interface on GAE?

I am looking to upload multiple photos at the same time and the INPUT
FILE HTML makes me select the file for each photo ... so I would have
to select each image manually from the file system to fill the name
property of the FILE input. That's a pain ...

Basically I have like 50 FILE inputs and to upload them I have to
select each file individually manually ...

Any idea ?

Thanks in advance for you response !!

Cheers !

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[google-appengine] errors

2010-10-20 Thread Jamie H

Seems that the mail.send error is back... I've even noticed it thrown
by the ereporter trying to send me the day's exceptions.  This is for
app-id moto-tmobile.  I've also seen elevated datastore timeouts today

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Memcache capacity

2010-10-20 Thread djidjadji

If you do this many request to memcache you have a couple of hot
instances of your app.
Maybe if your memory footprint will allow you can cache some of them
in memory first and use memcache as an L2 cache.
This will reduce the calls and data transfer.
Only cache stuff in memory that is somewhat 'static' in content.

2010/10/18 Felippe Bueno felippe.bu...@gmail.com:
 Hello All,
 I'd like to ask, what can I do if I reach the memcache quota limit?
 Specifically the Data Received from API and Memcache API Calls.
 Right now I have 57% used of Data Received from API. My next reset is 10h.

 I have about 500 req/sec, and I do intensive use of memcache.

 Also, is there any easy way to know how much memcache stored data my
 application is using ?

 Thanks.


 On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Ikai Lan (Google)
 ikai.l+gro...@google.com wrote:

 You can read our program policies here:
 http://code.google.com/appengine/program_policies.html
 There is a list of the type of content you can and cannot store on our 
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 On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:38 PM, SivaTumma sivatu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ikai,

 Can We build applications those serve religions or Porn on appengine ?

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Re: [google-appengine] building index.yaml

2010-10-20 Thread Tim Jones

Ah, that sounds like a good solution. Thanks.
=T=


On Oct 20, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Robert Kluin wrote:

 Hey Tim,
  It is probably not very elegant, but I guess I have used a
 combination of 1 and 3.   I put together scripts to request all
 combinations of the fields and let the SDK generate the indexes it
 wants.  I have done this using windmill (like selenium) script to fill
 in and submit forms, which we do during test anyway.  And, I have also
 done it with a script used for testing queries.
 
 
 Robert
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 14:26, Tim Jones t...@eff.org wrote:
 Any thoughts or recommendations for efficiently creating complex index.yaml 
 files?
 
 My app has a search page that uses six different filter criteria. I'd like 
 to make sure GAE is indexing all possible permutations. I've thought of only 
 three ways to do this:
 
 1. Using the dev server, manually run all possible search permutations, so 
 that all the necessary indexes are auto-generated.
 
 2. Manually write the index parameters into index.yaml
 
 3. Write some kind of program to auto-generate the index.yaml parameters 
 based on the search parameters.
 
 #1 and #2 are prohibitively tedious. Has anyone tried #3? Does anyone have 
 other suggestions? It seems like a problem others must run into relatively 
 often.
 
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Re: [google-appengine] errors

Do you have a ballpark estimate of the frequency of exceptions thrown? Also
- are the emails being delivered, even if the exception is thrown?

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 Seems that the mail.send error is back... I've even noticed it thrown
 by the ereporter trying to send me the day's exceptions.  This is for
 app-id moto-tmobile.  I've also seen elevated datastore timeouts today

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[google-appengine] Re: errors

2010-10-20 Thread Jamie H

Ikai,

For a ball park estimate it is very low. ~1% if even that. Much less
than in the past. Only mentioning it here because as I've told you
for the past week it seemed to be gone. I'm in the middle of running
an invitation/registration site so I feel I have a pretty good
barometer for this issue.

I have no idea if the emails are sent or not.

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- are the emails being delivered, even if the exception is thrown?

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Seems that the mail.send error is back... I've even noticed it thrown
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: errors