[appengine-java] Re: Recurring tasks
Hi, I see different purposes for the 2: - cron tasks are the tasks I always want to do for sure - tasks via API are tasks that I schedule programmatically when needed and triggered by event that I can't predict in advance. I see personally 2 other purposes for API tasks: a) when I run a task and it comes close to the 30s limit, I pause it, serialize its context and schedule a task with this context. When the task starts, it's in fact a restart with another 30s credit for running b) I also tasks in context of transactions if I want to be sure that the action of the task is done (i.e datastore writes) even if the transactions fails - for example, store errors in datastore for later analysis for a failing transaction / program, etc. regards didier On Oct 25, 6:23 am, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie Thanks for the response. I am confused a bit. If cron job does the scheduling then what Task Queue does? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Didier Durand durand.did...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Vik, Tasks scheduled via cron.xml is the way I would go: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/config/cron.html I would schedule a task every minute, make a query on the deadline for donors and then do what has to be done. didier On Oct 24, 7:11 pm, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie Guys Our application manages a list of blood donors. Time to time these blood donors are unreachable so the administrators can mark such blood donors as inactive. However, these blood donors should be active again after 1 day automatically. How should we achieve this? ?In regular J2EE apis we can write scheduler classes to do the same. What is the option in GAE? Are there any limitations? I went through a bit and feel like task queues are the way. But I am not sure? If yes then for above scenario how should it be done? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine-java%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Feature Request: Restore prepared query from a cursor
Hi App Engine team, the Cursor stores the full state of a prepared query to check if it matches the query when applied and raise an exception if this is not the case. Now the usual use case is that during a paging operation the cursor is transferred between client (e.g HTML page, JSP, ...) and server. The server restores the cursor from the string encoding and applies it to the PreparedQuery. As the server is stateless the server side needs to restore the prepared query somehow either by caching it somewhere or by reconstructing it from the application context (I take the reconstruction approach) Now I wonder if you could avoid caching/reconstructing the query if you have the cursor, because apparently the cursor contains the full state of the query. Wouldn't it be a trivial change in the API of the SDK to introduce a method on the Cursor class like: PreparedQuery getQuery() Then you could have on the server have code like this: Cursor decodedCursor = Cursor.fromWebSafeString(encodedCursor); PreparedQuery preparedQuery = decodedCursor.getPreparedQuery(); List nextBatch = preparedQuery.asQueryResultList(withLimit(20).cursor(decoded)); Not sure if I missed something but this seems to be trivial and it would give so much convenience... Comments? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: 1.3.8 Console Logging Issue
Similar here. Now only logs WARNING and ERROR. Logging properties set to INFO and prior to 1.3.8 upgrade INFO logged fine. Have configuration procedures been changed or something? Window 7 32bit Eclipse 3.5 and 3.6 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: How can i allow user to download a zip file?
Just call the method addStream( name_of_the_folder ):
OutputStream os = zipStreamOutput.addStream( zipfolder/
subfolder );
Vaclav
On Oct 23, 7:32 pm, Bit Liner bitli...@gmail.com wrote:
How can i add a folder to the zipStreamOutput?
I cannot write bytes that represents a folder, is there a way to do
it?
On Sep 16, 9:07 am, Vaclav Bartacek vaclav.barta...@spolecne.cz
wrote:
Look at ZipStreamOutput class
from:http://code.google.com/p/audao/source/browse/#svn/trunk/modules/embed...
The usage in GAE or generally in servlets is as simple as following:
private void responseAsZipStream( HttpServletResponse response )
throws IOException {
// prepare buffers:
ByteArrayOutputStream bos = new ByteArrayOutputStream();
ZipStreamOutput output = new ZipStreamOutput( bos );
byte[] buf = new byte[4096];
// now create the ZIP archive as you want:
OutputStream os1 = output.addStream( file1.txt );
// write to the output stream 1 , but do not close it -
ZipStreamOutput does it itself:
os1.write( whatever );
os1.flush();
OutputStream os2 = output.addStream( file2.txt );
// write to the output stream 2 , but do not close it -
ZipStreamOutput does it itself:
os2.write( whatever );
os2.flush();
// finish the ZIP stream:
output.finish();
// now pass it as the HTTP response:
byte[] data = bos.toByteArray();
response.setContentType( application/zip );
response.setContentLength( data.length );
response.setHeader( Content-Disposition, inline; filename=
+ filename.zip);
response.getOutputStream().write( data );
}
This works on gae - I use it at audao.spoledge.com
Vaclav
On Sep 15, 3:19 am, Bit Liner bitli...@gmail.com wrote:
My app creates dinamically two files so that then the users can
download these files in one zip file.
But i have problem in implementing this operations.
Some suggestion to help me?
Library, if gae supports this operations, etc.
(i have tried to use gaeVfs, but i have met problems: i cannot write
the content of a file on the response, so i can download the file but
its content is empty )
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[appengine-java] Re: Disappointment about JPA relationships :(
I agree the documentation isn't fabulous for JPA, in that a vast majority of it focuses on the JDO implementation and you end up having to work out which bits of DataNucleus documentation should be used and is relevant for GAE. However, to give the team a bit of credit the restrictions you are talking about are clearly documented at http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/datastore/transactions.html. Having been through the pain with trying a JPA-based implementation and reading through these message groups, it is quite clear that JDO and JPA are just a very poor fit for the underlying datastore - using the low-level API, or one of the open-source libraries such as Objectify, Twig or Slim3 is probably a safer bet. On Oct 25, 4:01 am, Shawn Brown big.coffee.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just here because i feel i need to rant a little. I came here expecting way too much. Been there with JDO -- the docs are not adequate. I don't know your exact requirements but I suspect you'll find many on this list who found objectify to be the simplest convenient interface to the Google App Engine datastore.http://code.google.com/p/objectify-appengine/ Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: File size when downloading files is missing
So, i've played a bit and tested some things. Before serving the blobkey i now set the header of the respond this way: res.setHeader(Content-Length, Long.toString(blobInfo.getSize() )); res.setHeader(Content-Size, Long.toString(blobInfo.getSize() )); Setting the header works, the respond says: HTTP/1.1 200 OK Content-Size: 66882 Content-Type: application/pdf Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 08:10:15 GMT Server: Google Frontend Content-Length: 66882 Connection: close But, all my browsers (I've testest with Safari, Firefox and Chrome) still are not able to determine the filesize when downloading... Do you have any idea what else i can try? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: Uploading to blobstore gives OutOfMemoryError
Despite all the documentations and examples you have missed adding the enctype! add this to the form enctype=multipart/form-data you should have no problems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
Re: [appengine-java] Re: Uploading to blobstore gives OutOfMemoryError
No, we had the enctype; that's what the uploadForm.setEncoding(FormPanel. ENCODING_MULTIPART); was about. As several of us have discovered, it's the name we were missing. The requirement to have encoding set is well-documented, the name is not so much. And the point remains that even if it is documented, running out of memory NOT the right way to respond to it, because any malicious user can send a POST request with no name. On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:42 AM, zen donny.bidda...@gmail.com wrote: Despite all the documentations and examples you have missed adding the enctype! add this to the form enctype=multipart/form-data you should have no problems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine-java%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
Re: [appengine-java] Google App Engine on Netbeans
You may refer to http://java.wildstartech.com/Java-Platform-Enterprise-Edition/JavaServer-Faces/sun-javaserver-faces-reference-implementation/configuring-jsf-20-to-run-on-the-google-app-engine-using-netbeans I had successed last time for configuring JSF+Facelets on Google Appengine using Netbean 6.8, but failed in 6.9 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: Testing with JDO
Thank you Didier.
This is my BaseTest.java and works perfect now:
package ...;
import static org.junit.Assert.assertEquals;
import java.util.Date;
import java.util.List;
import javax.jdo.PersistenceManager;
import org.junit.After;
import org.junit.Before;
import org.junit.Test;
import com.declaraciones.PMF;
import com.declaraciones.shared.Declaracion.EstadoDeclaracion;
import com.declaraciones.shared.Movimiento;
import
com.google.appengine.tools.development.testing.LocalDatastoreServiceTestConfig;
import
com.google.appengine.tools.development.testing.LocalServiceTestHelper;
public class BaseTest {
private final LocalServiceTestHelper dsHelper = new
LocalServiceTestHelper(new LocalDatastoreServiceTestConfig());
private final PersistenceManager pm = PMF.getPersistenceManager();
@Before
public void setUp() {
System.out.println(Entering @Before for BaseTest);
dsHelper.setUp();
}
@After
public void tearDown() {
System.out.println(Entering @After for BaseTest);
this.dsHelper.tearDown();
}
// run this test twice to prove we're not leaking any state across
tests
@SuppressWarnings(unchecked)
private void doTest() {
String query = select from + Movimiento.class.getName();
assertEquals(0, ((ListMovimiento)
pm.newQuery(query).execute()).size());
Movimiento m1 = new Movimiento();
pm.makePersistent(m1);
assertEquals(1, ((ListMovimiento)
pm.newQuery(query).execute()).size());
Movimiento m2 = new Movimiento();
pm.makePersistent(m2);
assertEquals(2, ((ListMovimiento)
pm.newQuery(query).execute()).size());
}
@Test
public void testInsert1() {
doTest();
}
@Test
public void testInsert2() {
doTest();
}
}
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[appengine-java] Create any kind of file on GAE/J then upload to Google docs.
Hi, Is it possible to create any kind of file on GAE/J and upload to Google docs? I've asked a similar question about creating PDF and uploading to Google docs but seems nobody tried or successful before. Anyone have any suggestions or sample code? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: Testing with JDO
Daniel,
You're welcome.
didier
On Oct 25, 12:40 pm, Daniel Blasco dab...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you Didier.
This is my BaseTest.java and works perfect now:
package ...;
import static org.junit.Assert.assertEquals;
import java.util.Date;
import java.util.List;
import javax.jdo.PersistenceManager;
import org.junit.After;
import org.junit.Before;
import org.junit.Test;
import com.declaraciones.PMF;
import com.declaraciones.shared.Declaracion.EstadoDeclaracion;
import com.declaraciones.shared.Movimiento;
import
com.google.appengine.tools.development.testing.LocalDatastoreServiceTestConfig;
import
com.google.appengine.tools.development.testing.LocalServiceTestHelper;
public class BaseTest {
private final LocalServiceTestHelper dsHelper = new
LocalServiceTestHelper(new LocalDatastoreServiceTestConfig());
private final PersistenceManager pm = PMF.getPersistenceManager();
@Before
public void setUp() {
System.out.println(Entering @Before for BaseTest);
dsHelper.setUp();
}
@After
public void tearDown() {
System.out.println(Entering @After for BaseTest);
this.dsHelper.tearDown();
}
// run this test twice to prove we're not leaking any state across
tests
@SuppressWarnings(unchecked)
private void doTest() {
String query = select from + Movimiento.class.getName();
assertEquals(0, ((ListMovimiento)
pm.newQuery(query).execute()).size());
Movimiento m1 = new Movimiento();
pm.makePersistent(m1);
assertEquals(1, ((ListMovimiento)
pm.newQuery(query).execute()).size());
Movimiento m2 = new Movimiento();
pm.makePersistent(m2);
assertEquals(2, ((ListMovimiento)
pm.newQuery(query).execute()).size());
}
@Test
public void testInsert1() {
doTest();
}
@Test
public void testInsert2() {
doTest();
}
}
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[appengine-java] Re: Recurring tasks
Hi Vik, I would also go with cron job in your case. Concerning the 30s limit, it depends on your requirements in computing: a) you can and should probably schedule via api an independent task for each separate donor who needs to be processed after your query (via cron) told you who needs to be processed today. b) then,for each individual task, if it lasts more than 30s then you need to do what I described earlier (i.e pause the current run after storing its context and restart it in a new task) regards didier On Oct 25, 12:35 pm, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie Hmm, so in my case I always know in advance that I need to activate few blood donors every day which were deactivated yesterday. So, this qualifies for cron jobs. Isn't it ? However, does this 30s limit applies here as well? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Didier Durand durand.did...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I see different purposes for the 2: - cron tasks are the tasks I always want to do for sure - tasks via API are tasks that I schedule programmatically when needed and triggered by event that I can't predict in advance. I see personally 2 other purposes for API tasks: a) when I run a task and it comes close to the 30s limit, I pause it, serialize its context and schedule a task with this context. When the task starts, it's in fact a restart with another 30s credit for running b) I also tasks in context of transactions if I want to be sure that the action of the task is done (i.e datastore writes) even if the transactions fails - for example, store errors in datastore for later analysis for a failing transaction / program, etc. regards didier On Oct 25, 6:23 am, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie Thanks for the response. I am confused a bit. If cron job does the scheduling then what Task Queue does? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Didier Durand durand.did...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vik, Tasks scheduled via cron.xml is the way I would go: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/config/cron.html I would schedule a task every minute, make a query on the deadline for donors and then do what has to be done. didier On Oct 24, 7:11 pm, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie Guys Our application manages a list of blood donors. Time to time these blood donors are unreachable so the administrators can mark such blood donors as inactive. However, these blood donors should be active again after 1 day automatically. How should we achieve this? ?In regular J2EE apis we can write scheduler classes to do the same. What is the option in GAE? Are there any limitations? I went through a bit and feel like task queues are the way. But I am not sure? If yes then for above scenario how should it be done? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine-java%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com google-appengine-java%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine-java%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine-java%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
Re: [appengine-java] Re: Recurring tasks
Hie thanks a lot!!! So, how about starting a corn job every day say at 00:00 and if time consumption goes more than 30 sec than scheduling tasks to complete leftovers. I have another question here: The data model for this is: BloodDonor_name, blood_group, is_active, active_date so query to find donors to be activated ids gonna be: select BloodDonor where is_active == false active_date == today's date and update gonna be setting such donors: is_active=true and active_date = null. Any idea how many such entries is safe to consider will be processed within 30 secs ? Thankx and Regards Vik Founder www.sakshum.com www.sakshum.blogspot.com On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Didier Durand durand.did...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Vik, I would also go with cron job in your case. Concerning the 30s limit, it depends on your requirements in computing: a) you can and should probably schedule via api an independent task for each separate donor who needs to be processed after your query (via cron) told you who needs to be processed today. b) then,for each individual task, if it lasts more than 30s then you need to do what I described earlier (i.e pause the current run after storing its context and restart it in a new task) regards didier On Oct 25, 12:35 pm, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie Hmm, so in my case I always know in advance that I need to activate few blood donors every day which were deactivated yesterday. So, this qualifies for cron jobs. Isn't it ? However, does this 30s limit applies here as well? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Didier Durand durand.did...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I see different purposes for the 2: - cron tasks are the tasks I always want to do for sure - tasks via API are tasks that I schedule programmatically when needed and triggered by event that I can't predict in advance. I see personally 2 other purposes for API tasks: a) when I run a task and it comes close to the 30s limit, I pause it, serialize its context and schedule a task with this context. When the task starts, it's in fact a restart with another 30s credit for running b) I also tasks in context of transactions if I want to be sure that the action of the task is done (i.e datastore writes) even if the transactions fails - for example, store errors in datastore for later analysis for a failing transaction / program, etc. regards didier On Oct 25, 6:23 am, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie Thanks for the response. I am confused a bit. If cron job does the scheduling then what Task Queue does? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Didier Durand durand.did...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vik, Tasks scheduled via cron.xml is the way I would go: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/config/cron.html I would schedule a task every minute, make a query on the deadline for donors and then do what has to be done. didier On Oct 24, 7:11 pm, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie Guys Our application manages a list of blood donors. Time to time these blood donors are unreachable so the administrators can mark such blood donors as inactive. However, these blood donors should be active again after 1 day automatically. How should we achieve this? ?In regular J2EE apis we can write scheduler classes to do the same. What is the option in GAE? Are there any limitations? I went through a bit and feel like task queues are the way. But I am not sure? If yes then for above scenario how should it be done? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine-java%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com google-appengine-java%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine-java%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com google-appengine-java%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine-java%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com google-appengine-java%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine-java%25252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe
[appengine-java] Re: Channel API still not live...
Hello everybody. Following Ikai's instructions I signed up for Channel API trusted tester last Friday (2010/10/22). The API has not yet been enabled for my application. I was wondering if anybody has gotten the API activated and how long it took for it to get activated. Ikai? Daniel? Heiko? Thanks for your time. On Sep 20, 4:47 pm, Ikai Lan (Google) ikai.l+gro...@google.com wrote: Channel API is not available yet. You can sign up for trusted tester here: https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/google.com/viewform?formkey=dGFxQ1A... On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Heiko Roth r...@egotec.com wrote: Hello there, We need channel api, too. Can we use it? Greetings, Heiko. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine-java%2B unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: Recurring tasks
Hi Vik, To be fully transparent, I stopped using JDO and switched to Objectify: much more simple, efficient transparent than JDO (just check how many issues on this forum with jdo). Learning curve is very quick. Wih Objectify, if your entities are not too big in size and well indexed to match your queries, you can hope for many tenths of task start (each with its own donor to process) in the course of 30s. I am probably conservative. The advantage of starting additional tasks via API is parallelism: all your donors will be processed simultaneously and then update job is gonna be finished much faster overall. Be careful though if you have global counters updated by many tasks in parallel: you may enter concurrency race issues. But you can post again by then if needed to solve those new issues... regards didier On Oct 25, 2:45 pm, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie thanks a lot!!! So, how about starting a corn job every day say at 00:00 and if time consumption goes more than 30 sec than scheduling tasks to complete leftovers. I have another question here: The data model for this is: BloodDonor_name, blood_group, is_active, active_date so query to find donors to be activated ids gonna be: select BloodDonor where is_active == false active_date == today's date and update gonna be setting such donors: is_active=true and active_date = null. Any idea how many such entries is safe to consider will be processed within 30 secs ? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Didier Durand durand.did...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Vik, I would also go with cron job in your case. Concerning the 30s limit, it depends on your requirements in computing: a) you can and should probably schedule via api an independent task for each separate donor who needs to be processed after your query (via cron) told you who needs to be processed today. b) then,for each individual task, if it lasts more than 30s then you need to do what I described earlier (i.e pause the current run after storing its context and restart it in a new task) regards didier On Oct 25, 12:35 pm, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie Hmm, so in my case I always know in advance that I need to activate few blood donors every day which were deactivated yesterday. So, this qualifies for cron jobs. Isn't it ? However, does this 30s limit applies here as well? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Didier Durand durand.did...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I see different purposes for the 2: - cron tasks are the tasks I always want to do for sure - tasks via API are tasks that I schedule programmatically when needed and triggered by event that I can't predict in advance. I see personally 2 other purposes for API tasks: a) when I run a task and it comes close to the 30s limit, I pause it, serialize its context and schedule a task with this context. When the task starts, it's in fact a restart with another 30s credit for running b) I also tasks in context of transactions if I want to be sure that the action of the task is done (i.e datastore writes) even if the transactions fails - for example, store errors in datastore for later analysis for a failing transaction / program, etc. regards didier On Oct 25, 6:23 am, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie Thanks for the response. I am confused a bit. If cron job does the scheduling then what Task Queue does? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Didier Durand durand.did...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vik, Tasks scheduled via cron.xml is the way I would go: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/config/cron.html I would schedule a task every minute, make a query on the deadline for donors and then do what has to be done. didier On Oct 24, 7:11 pm, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie Guys Our application manages a list of blood donors. Time to time these blood donors are unreachable so the administrators can mark such blood donors as inactive. However, these blood donors should be active again after 1 day automatically. How should we achieve this? ?In regular J2EE apis we can write scheduler classes to do the same. What is the option in GAE? Are there any limitations? I went through a bit and feel like task queues are the way. But I am not sure? If yes then for above scenario how should it be done? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App
[appengine-java] Re: Disappointment about JPA relationships :(
That is very true. The page you show is quite explaining why i got theses exceptions, but i wouldn't have understood anything before i ran into theses exceptions, and not even understanding if this page was JDO or JPA documentation. Anyway, i got it now and i'm back on tracks, but i would have gladly enjoyed not living my last 10 days. ^^ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: 1.3.8 Console Logging Issue
I am seeing the same problem but thought is was due to new GWT 2.1RC1 logging capability. See thread at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_frm/thread/c5afa6655edec800# I just tested my app with 1.3.7 and .8. With .7 it works and not with . 8. I am only testing on the desktop, not live on the web. Another GWT developer reports that reverting GWT addresses the problem. I don't know if that changes GAE or Jetty, either of which may be part of the problem. Rud http://www.mysticlakesoftware.com On Oct 25, 1:32 am, andrew aute...@gmail.com wrote: Similar here. Now only logs WARNING and ERROR. Logging properties set to INFO and prior to 1.3.8 upgrade INFO logged fine. Have configuration procedures been changed or something? Window 7 32bit Eclipse 3.5 and 3.6 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: Channel API still not live...
They will notify you if you get picked, they dont activate it for everyone just a few testers. On Oct 25, 10:47 am, stole goran.stoj...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody. Following Ikai's instructions I signed up for Channel API trusted tester last Friday (2010/10/22). The API has not yet been enabled for my application. I was wondering if anybody has gotten the API activated and how long it took for it to get activated. Ikai? Daniel? Heiko? Thanks for your time. On Sep 20, 4:47 pm, Ikai Lan (Google) ikai.l+gro...@google.com wrote: Channel API is not available yet. You can sign up for trusted tester here: https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/google.com/viewform?formkey=dGFxQ1A... On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Heiko Roth r...@egotec.com wrote: Hello there, We need channel api, too. Can we use it? Greetings, Heiko. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine-java%2B unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: 1.3.8 Console Logging Issue
Same here with python on a Mac. Have heard reports of same with Java on windows. Seems to be a global 1.3.8 problem? V/. On Oct 24, 9:04 pm, jt john.j.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I upgraded my project from 1.3.4 to 1.3.8. After the upgrade, the console fails to log. If I switch back to 1.3.4, the console logs properly. I am on a 64-bit Windows Vista environment, running Eclipse 3.4.2 w/ (MyEclipse and Instantiations GWT tools) Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] OpenID Accounts with same emails and App Engine User class
Hi, For some reason my application handles OpenID accounts with same emails as one user. It means when I try to access datastore entities with User field of new user it also gets entities of all other users with the same email. Is User object same as email? Pythod documentation says: User instances are unique and comparable. If two instances are equal, then they represent the same user. (but I use Java). I think I'm doing something wrong here: Query query = pm.newQuery(Subscriber.class, user == userParam); query.declareImports(import com.google.appengine.api.users.User); query.declareParameters(User userParam); @SuppressWarnings(unchecked) ListSubscriber results = (ListSubscriber) query.execute(user); if (results.size()!=0) Logger.log(User logged in, results.iterator().next().getId()); ? With this problem using OpenID is very unsafe. Anybody can create an OpenID account with any email (for example with myOpenID), without email verification, and then log in to my application and get data related to all Users with this email. I believe I'm doing something wrong, so I'll really hope someone will open my eyes. Thanks, Best Regards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: mapreduce cron
Hi Jacek, there is an example in mapper project source code: http://code.google.com/p/appengine-mapreduce/source/browse/trunk/java/example/com/google/appengine/demos/mapreduce/TestServlet.java Hope it helps. On Oct 23, 12:03 am, jacek.ambroziak jacek.ambroz...@gmail.com wrote: How to start a MapReduce job as a cron scheduled task? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Datastore viewer error + cant delete
Hi, Can anyone help : In the app engine management screen, pressing the datastore viewer brings an error screen with no details. So, I started searching for corrupt data , and after writing some code found possible instances in the data store where items with duplicate primary keys seem to be committed. I then wrote some code to try and delete them , calling PersistenceManager.deletePersistent with these items, and while no exceptions where thrown , they are still in the datastore any ideas? The application itself seems to be working fine, but I am afraid I am missing something bigger here. Thanks in advance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] SDK/Eclipse pains on Ubuntu
This is a two parter - first to express some frustration (well, quite a lot really) and second, to ask for support/help. It feels like every time I update my GAE Eclipse plugin, my dev environment breaks. The reason for the break varies, this time around my classpath is completely broken - starts with data nucleus not working (jars duplicated into lib directory), fix that then get ClassNotFound exceptions at runtime (GAE classes not on classpath at runtime), fix that (library order) then find that the jars have copied down to the lib directory, back to square one. There are various other problems - I've spent all bar one hour of today trying to get my environment working again following an update. This seems to happen every time I do a GAE upgrade, but this time around is more broken than previously. At the moment, it's all still broken - I'm contemplating making a new project and copying java source files across. Is there a fundamental duh, stupid thing that I'm not doing, or have not set up that makes this work? Is anyone else experiencing such pain? I'm using a Eclipse/JEE Web Application Project with GAE, but not GWT enabled. It has previously worked fine (between SDK updates) and I've previously been able to fix the break post-update - not this time though. Help much appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] jsf view id's expire too quick
Hi, I'm running an application that runs on myfaces 2.0.2. When I run the application on the appserver I constantly get javax.faces.application.ViewExpiredException. MyFaces stores viewIds in the normal servlet session store. Although session timeout is set to 30 minutes, the viewIds seem to be invalidated after a minute or so. When I run the application on my local development server everything works well. Does anybody know what might be wrong? bye Mich; -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
Re: [appengine-java] DatastoreNeedIndexException
You need to look at your application and the type of queries you are performing. Don't index properties you don't need to search on. Read more about this here: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/queriesandindexes.html -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine Blogger: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 12:16 AM, pman pollk...@gmail.com wrote: I now have problem with com.google.appengine.api.datastore.DatastoreNeedIndexException: no matching index found... And, the admin Dashboard shown === Number of Indexes 100% 100%199 of 200 === the application is a relatively simple, yet got such problem. i wonder how many datastore indexes u guys have. pls share it here. p/s: google appengine team, can increase the quota for index ...? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine-java%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
Re: [appengine-java] Re: Recommended maximum number of entities in an entity group
I was unclear in my last point: real world performance should be above 1 transaction per second, but you should engineer your entity group writes with an expectation of 1 transaction/second for best results. -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine Blogger: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 1:53 AM, nicanor.babula nicanor.bab...@gmail.comwrote: Acually, I forgot about the fact that while a transaction is going on, all entities involved are locked. Therefore, I considered changing my database structure in order to get more, but smaller entity groups (every parentEntity will have at most 20-30 childs). That way, will be easier and faster to use transactions. On 22 Ott, 19:54, Ikai Lan (Google) ikai.l+gro...@google.comikai.l%2bgro...@google.com wrote: Cyrille is right: have an expectation of 1 transaction/second, though real world performance should be below this. App Engine favors a model of eventual consistency. You don't get to scale by locking a ton of entities at once. -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Cyrille Vincey crll...@gmail.com wrote: From my experience : I do NOT expect a better write performance than 1 transaction/second when creating entities inside one given entity group (with 1 entity created in each transaction). In your case : if dataset creation is an offline process, you can rely on entity groups and parent/child data modelling, no matter how many child entities you want to store. But you will have to expect high datastore contention level. My suggestion : in your data model design, only use parent/child design when transactional features are REALLY required. If transactional requirement are not so high, prefer to break your data model into smaller entity groups. On 21/10/10 17:00, nicanor.babula nicanor.bab...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you all for your responses. @alesj No, I am not confusing entity group with the actual entities stored in the datastore. @Ian Marshall Actually no, because I already did that kind of analysis. I have to use transactions in order to maintain data consistency and therefore I have to define the right entity groups. I already thought of a solution, just that I have read in the docs that is not recommended to put too many entities in an entity group. So: What is the number of child entities a parent entity can have, past which the datastore becomes slow? Hundreds? Thousands? Millions? I also understand that all entities in an entity group are stored on the same node of the datastore's distributed system and therefore I understand that if the number of entities an entity group has is too big, the queries will become slow, because will be processed by a single node. Right? Again: Which is that number? Thanks and sorry if I bored you with my long email. ;) On 21 Ott, 14:59, Ian Marshall ianmarshall...@gmail.com wrote: How about my comments below? http://www.google.com/url?url=http://groups.google.com/g/f907f736/t/f. .. Do they help you? On Oct 20, 6:39 pm, nicanor.babula nicanor.bab...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everbody, I have a question regarding the datastore best-practices. The appengine's official documentation says that is not a good practice to put too many entities in the same entity group. What does too many mean in this case? Hundreds? Thousands? Milions? Thanks in advance, Cristian Babula. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine-java%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine-java%2 bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine-java%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine-java%2B unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group.
[appengine-java] DeadlineExceededException from URLFetchService
Would it be possible to throw DeadlineExceededException from the URLFetchService instead of IOException? java.io.IOException: Timeout while fetching: https://... at com.google.appengine.api.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceImpl.convertApplicationException(URLFetchServiceImpl.java: 108) at com.google.appengine.api.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceImpl.fetch(URLFetchServiceImpl.java: 39) Maybe I'm expecting the wrong behavior from the API. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
Re: [appengine-java] DeadlineExceededException from URLFetchService
DeadlineExceededException isn't appropriate, as that exception indicates that your overall request deadline has passed and you need to finish what you are doing and return from the request. java.io.IOException seems correct for this. Are you just trying to distinguish timeouts from other types of connection errors (e.g. the remote server is slow vs. the remote server is down completely) ? I don't know how reliably we can tell the difference. -- Don On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:05 PM, hector hrov...@gmail.com wrote: Would it be possible to throw DeadlineExceededException from the URLFetchService instead of IOException? java.io.IOException: Timeout while fetching: https://... at com.google.appengine.api.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceImpl.convertApplicationException(URLFetchServiceImpl.java: 108) at com.google.appengine.api.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceImpl.fetch(URLFetchServiceImpl.java: 39) Maybe I'm expecting the wrong behavior from the API. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
Re: [appengine-java] Re: Create entity and get ID
Can't hurt...
I define transactions for all my datastore access paths.
Thats the only way I can keep track of which entity is in context.
pm .currentTransaction.begin()
pm .currentTransaction.commit()
I'm also able to rollback() database access and not have the overhead of a
commit cleanup.
pm .currentTransaction.rollback()
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Cosmin Stefan
cosmin.stefandob...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey,
The thing is I don't have a transaction. And, I also am using
IdentityType.Datastore, as I need the id to be generated by the
datastore.
Anyway, this is what I currently have (and doesn't properly work):
@PersistenceCapable(detachable=true)
@Embeddable
public class GMeeting
{
...
/** The id. */
@PrimaryKey
@Persistent(valueStrategy = IdGeneratorStrategy.IDENTITY)
private Long id;
...}
and the using code:
{
meeting=new Meeting();
//Adding the new meeting
pm.makePersistent(meeting);
meeting=pm.detachCopy(meeting);
Long meetingID=meeting.getId();
}
Anyway, this still doesn't work. Do I need to use a transaction?
Thanks,
Cosmin
On Oct 23, 2:09 am, A. Stevko andy.ste...@gmail.com wrote:
In order to make the object accessible after the commit() you need to
make
it detatchable.
@PersistenceCapable(identityType = IdentityType.APPLICATION,
detachable=true)
public class Meeting
Then used this...
pm.makePersistent(meeting);
Long meetingID=meeting.getId();
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Cosmin Stefan
cosmin.stefandob...@gmail.com wrote:
And I really want to emphasize that this doesn't happen EVERY time.
Thanks and sorry for replying again!
On Oct 23, 1:17 am, Cosmin Stefan cosmin.stefandob...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hey,
Unfortunately, the first solution you suggested does not work and I
don't really need a transaction for what I want.
The thing is that I somehow need to persist the new entity and find
out it's key. How can I do this? Does anybody have an ideea?
Thanks a lot,
Cosmin
On Oct 22, 9:18 am, Ian Marshall ianmarshall...@gmail.com wrote:
Have you tried replacing
pm.makePersistent(meeting);
Long meetingID=meeting.getId();
with
meeting = pm.makePersistent(meeting);
Long meetingID=meeting.getId();
and see if this solves your problem. You might also want to commit
your transaction if you are doing this persistence in a transaction
before testing your meeting's ID (the ID might not get allocated
until
transaction committal).
On Oct 20, 11:19 pm, Cosmin Stefan cosmin.stefandob...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hey,
I have encountered a weird case while trying to create a new
entity
in
the database:
I have this code:
Meeting meeting=new Meeting(...)
pm.makePersistent(meeting);
Long meetingID=meeting.getId();
if(meetingID==null)
throw new Exception(meetingID is null...);
and in the Meeting Class:
/** The id. */
@PrimaryKey
@Persistent(valueStrategy = IdGeneratorStrategy.IDENTITY)
private Long id;
so the id is Long.
The problem is that sometimes the above code throws an exception,
some
other times it doesn't... What am I doing wrong?
Thanks!
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Re: [appengine-java] Re: Recurring tasks
Hie Ok thanks.. heard this word Objectify for the first time Not sure how much will be the efforts to migrate current jdo implementation to this. any advise ? Thankx and Regards Vik Founder www.sakshum.com www.sakshum.blogspot.com On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Didier Durand durand.did...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Vik, To be fully transparent, I stopped using JDO and switched to Objectify: much more simple, efficient transparent than JDO (just check how many issues on this forum with jdo). Learning curve is very quick. Wih Objectify, if your entities are not too big in size and well indexed to match your queries, you can hope for many tenths of task start (each with its own donor to process) in the course of 30s. I am probably conservative. The advantage of starting additional tasks via API is parallelism: all your donors will be processed simultaneously and then update job is gonna be finished much faster overall. Be careful though if you have global counters updated by many tasks in parallel: you may enter concurrency race issues. But you can post again by then if needed to solve those new issues... regards didier On Oct 25, 2:45 pm, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie thanks a lot!!! So, how about starting a corn job every day say at 00:00 and if time consumption goes more than 30 sec than scheduling tasks to complete leftovers. I have another question here: The data model for this is: BloodDonor_name, blood_group, is_active, active_date so query to find donors to be activated ids gonna be: select BloodDonor where is_active == false active_date == today's date and update gonna be setting such donors: is_active=true and active_date = null. Any idea how many such entries is safe to consider will be processed within 30 secs ? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Didier Durand durand.did...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vik, I would also go with cron job in your case. Concerning the 30s limit, it depends on your requirements in computing: a) you can and should probably schedule via api an independent task for each separate donor who needs to be processed after your query (via cron) told you who needs to be processed today. b) then,for each individual task, if it lasts more than 30s then you need to do what I described earlier (i.e pause the current run after storing its context and restart it in a new task) regards didier On Oct 25, 12:35 pm, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie Hmm, so in my case I always know in advance that I need to activate few blood donors every day which were deactivated yesterday. So, this qualifies for cron jobs. Isn't it ? However, does this 30s limit applies here as well? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Didier Durand durand.did...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I see different purposes for the 2: - cron tasks are the tasks I always want to do for sure - tasks via API are tasks that I schedule programmatically when needed and triggered by event that I can't predict in advance. I see personally 2 other purposes for API tasks: a) when I run a task and it comes close to the 30s limit, I pause it, serialize its context and schedule a task with this context. When the task starts, it's in fact a restart with another 30s credit for running b) I also tasks in context of transactions if I want to be sure that the action of the task is done (i.e datastore writes) even if the transactions fails - for example, store errors in datastore for later analysis for a failing transaction / program, etc. regards didier On Oct 25, 6:23 am, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie Thanks for the response. I am confused a bit. If cron job does the scheduling then what Task Queue does? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Didier Durand durand.did...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vik, Tasks scheduled via cron.xml is the way I would go: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/config/cron.html I would schedule a task every minute, make a query on the deadline for donors and then do what has to be done. didier On Oct 24, 7:11 pm, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie Guys Our application manages a list of blood donors. Time to time these blood donors are unreachable so the administrators can mark such blood donors as inactive. However, these blood donors should be active again after 1 day automatically. How should we achieve this? ?In regular J2EE apis
[appengine-java] How to increase the number of indexes
Hi, I currently used 185 out of 200 indexes(billed account). Is there a way I can increase max indexes from 200 to a higher value? Thanks in advance George -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: Recurring tasks
Hi Vik, Hard to tell without knowing your app and its size, complexity What I would suggest is to read the well done docs and practice a little bit (probably less than 10 hours total) and then you can decide. I personally found the Objectify verbs very close to those of jdo so migrating was more of syntax changes than full redesign of my code. regards didier On Oct 26, 2:02 am, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie Ok thanks.. heard this word Objectify for the first time Not sure how much will be the efforts to migrate current jdo implementation to this. any advise ? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Didier Durand durand.did...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Vik, To be fully transparent, I stopped using JDO and switched to Objectify: much more simple, efficient transparent than JDO (just check how many issues on this forum with jdo). Learning curve is very quick. Wih Objectify, if your entities are not too big in size and well indexed to match your queries, you can hope for many tenths of task start (each with its own donor to process) in the course of 30s. I am probably conservative. The advantage of starting additional tasks via API is parallelism: all your donors will be processed simultaneously and then update job is gonna be finished much faster overall. Be careful though if you have global counters updated by many tasks in parallel: you may enter concurrency race issues. But you can post again by then if needed to solve those new issues... regards didier On Oct 25, 2:45 pm, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie thanks a lot!!! So, how about starting a corn job every day say at 00:00 and if time consumption goes more than 30 sec than scheduling tasks to complete leftovers. I have another question here: The data model for this is: BloodDonor_name, blood_group, is_active, active_date so query to find donors to be activated ids gonna be: select BloodDonor where is_active == false active_date == today's date and update gonna be setting such donors: is_active=true and active_date = null. Any idea how many such entries is safe to consider will be processed within 30 secs ? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Didier Durand durand.did...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vik, I would also go with cron job in your case. Concerning the 30s limit, it depends on your requirements in computing: a) you can and should probably schedule via api an independent task for each separate donor who needs to be processed after your query (via cron) told you who needs to be processed today. b) then,for each individual task, if it lasts more than 30s then you need to do what I described earlier (i.e pause the current run after storing its context and restart it in a new task) regards didier On Oct 25, 12:35 pm, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie Hmm, so in my case I always know in advance that I need to activate few blood donors every day which were deactivated yesterday. So, this qualifies for cron jobs. Isn't it ? However, does this 30s limit applies here as well? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Didier Durand durand.did...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I see different purposes for the 2: - cron tasks are the tasks I always want to do for sure - tasks via API are tasks that I schedule programmatically when needed and triggered by event that I can't predict in advance. I see personally 2 other purposes for API tasks: a) when I run a task and it comes close to the 30s limit, I pause it, serialize its context and schedule a task with this context. When the task starts, it's in fact a restart with another 30s credit for running b) I also tasks in context of transactions if I want to be sure that the action of the task is done (i.e datastore writes) even if the transactions fails - for example, store errors in datastore for later analysis for a failing transaction / program, etc. regards didier On Oct 25, 6:23 am, Vik vik@gmail.com wrote: Hie Thanks for the response. I am confused a bit. If cron job does the scheduling then what Task Queue does? Thankx and Regards Vik Founderwww.sakshum.comwww.sakshum.blogspot.com On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Didier Durand durand.did...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vik, Tasks scheduled via cron.xml is the way I would go: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/config/cron.html I would schedule a task every minute, make a query on the deadline for
[appengine-java] recommendation on using maxmind geoip
may i know what is the preferable way of using maxmind geoip? upload the 'binary file' or bulk upload the csv files into bigtable? the prior technique will slow down application startup time? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: DeadlineExceededException from URLFetchService
That's correct, I'm using AppEngine to run a service registry that proxies to other services. I would like to differentiate between services that are unavailable and services that are not responding fast enough. I've also noticed that if the service I'm calling from GAE is down, I get an IOException, instead of a 404 in the response... which is what I would get if I were calling the service from the browser. On Oct 25, 1:22 pm, Don Schwarz schwa...@google.com wrote: DeadlineExceededException isn't appropriate, as that exception indicates that your overall request deadline has passed and you need to finish what you are doing and return from the request. java.io.IOException seems correct for this. Are you just trying to distinguish timeouts from other types of connection errors (e.g. the remote server is slow vs. the remote server is down completely) ? I don't know how reliably we can tell the difference. -- Don On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:05 PM, hector hrov...@gmail.com wrote: Would it be possible to throw DeadlineExceededException from the URLFetchService instead of IOException? java.io.IOException: Timeout while fetching: https://... at com.google.appengine.api.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceImpl.convertApplicationException(URLFetchServiceImpl.java: 108) at com.google.appengine.api.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceImpl.fetch(URLFetchServiceImpl.java: 39) Maybe I'm expecting the wrong behavior from the API. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: SDK/Eclipse pains on Ubuntu
I use Windows and I have the same problem when I upgrade and sometimes when I create a new workspace. (tried to use Ubuntu, but can't get my Adobe Flex plugin and Google plugin to both play nice). It seems the the plugin update changes the SDK version, but does not copy the new jars; it leaves the old ones or sometimes none. My workaround is to basically to make the plugin re-copy the SDK jars into the project. I do this by going into preferences and choosing Google. I then change the SDK to a different version. Sometimes I need to also change the default SDK, then choose a different one. The idea is to get the plugin to realize that is must copy in the SDK jars. Usually I have to make to copy the _old_ jars in, then I can change to the new SDK and have it copy the new jars in. Works after that. Also, your workspace may just be corrupt. So, if the above does not work, create a new workspace and populate it from your source control, then do the above if necessary. Hope this helps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
