Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
Here here. We're meant to be building an open source community. Open, free, for everyone. Please make the pdf available on a public link so we can download it anonymously. On 5 Dec 2012 20:48, RAlfoeldi ralfoe...@gmail.com wrote: This survey is based on data collected from GWT users and should be available to all users without registering with a company I am not interested in doing business with. If this is the type of community building we have to expect for the future... good luck, without me. And then... try commenting on their web page, log in with your google account. They actually want access to your google contacts. WTF? This seems to be a general problem with Vaadin. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 12:19:05 PM UTC+1, Joonas Lehtinen wrote: *The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at: * * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/PxU-tpYn7W8J. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
Here here. We're meant to be building an open source community aren't we? Open, free, for everyone. Please make the pdf available on a public link so it can be downloaded anonymously, Vaadin. On 5 Dec 2012 20:48, RAlfoeldi ralfoe...@gmail.com wrote: This survey is based on data collected from GWT users and should be available to all users without registering with a company I am not interested in doing business with. If this is the type of community building we have to expect for the future... good luck, without me. And then... try commenting on their web page, log in with your google account. They actually want access to your google contacts. WTF? This seems to be a general problem with Vaadin. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 12:19:05 PM UTC+1, Joonas Lehtinen wrote: *The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at:* * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/PxU-tpYn7W8J. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
mine http://code.google.com/p/raphael4gwt/ has support for some charts types of graphael like bar, pie, line, grid, sunburst, radar, etc.- See the demo: http://cancerbero.vacau.com/gwt/graphael4gwtGallery On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:05:26 PM UTC-2, James wrote: I am evaluating a chart library for my incoming project. I can not find any information about chart library for GWT. Is it included in the next report? I am trying to find the most popular chart library for GWT. James -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/iHIBck5pivcJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
+1 not really in the spirit of OpenSource. I've also some reserve to see Vaadin presented as a drop-in replacement for GWT. GWT is a great framework to build Client-Side RIA in java. Vaadin provides 3 development models. GWT only promotes and supports one of them. I'm afraid too to see GWT included as an integral part of Vaadin Framework directly in the package. How to justify that, even in their maven poms, references to gwt are systematically replaced by vaadin? ex: replace the gwt-maven-plugin with com.vaadin:vaadin-maven-plugin, comment out dependencies in its configuration (if exists) and use plug-in version that matches the Vaadin version use goal vaadin:compile instead of gwt:compile etc. I'm excited by the new beginning of GWT. I only hope that some of the new steering committee members do not use this opportunity to make a fork of GWT. The future will tell. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 11:03:57 AM UTC+1, Drew Spencer wrote: I agree with the others who think the email address requirement is a little over the top. You'd spread more copies by making it free, but I guess you want emails. On Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:33:55 UTC, nicolas marchais wrote: Maybe it's Jukito : http://code.google.com/p/jukito/ Le mardi 4 décembre 2012 18:18:44 UTC+1, Benjamin DeLillo a écrit : There's a mention about very good tools for automated tests, such as Jucikito but Google doesn't find anything for Jucikito, is there a typo? I'd love to know what this very good tool is exactly. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:19:05 AM UTC-5, Joonas Lehtinen wrote: *The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at:* * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/Q85wEoqzq-UJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
I agree with the others who think the email address requirement is a little over the top. You'd spread more copies by making it free, but I guess you want emails. On Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:33:55 UTC, nicolas marchais wrote: Maybe it's Jukito : http://code.google.com/p/jukito/ Le mardi 4 décembre 2012 18:18:44 UTC+1, Benjamin DeLillo a écrit : There's a mention about very good tools for automated tests, such as Jucikito but Google doesn't find anything for Jucikito, is there a typo? I'd love to know what this very good tool is exactly. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:19:05 AM UTC-5, Joonas Lehtinen wrote: *The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at:* * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/kZhAPRwylksJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to make this so consumable. I found it very interesting to read. If getting my (spam-me-as-much-as-you-want) email was the cost, I'd pay that again happily. Whoever put this together did a very, very good job. If this had been a big table of numbers I wouldn't have learned as much. Thanks again, Ryan On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 5:19:05 AM UTC-6, Joonas Lehtinen wrote: *The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at: * * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/HX43ol9dILIJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
Many thanks to Vaadin, Steering Committee and GWT community for such a useful report. On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Ryan Shillington ryan-googlegro...@onlyinsight.com wrote: I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to make this so consumable. I found it very interesting to read. If getting my (spam-me-as-much-as-you-want) email was the cost, I'd pay that again happily. Whoever put this together did a very, very good job. If this had been a big table of numbers I wouldn't have learned as much. Thanks again, Ryan On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 5:19:05 AM UTC-6, Joonas Lehtinen wrote: *The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at:* * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/HX43ol9dILIJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
This survey is based on data collected from GWT users and should be available to all users without registering with a company I am not interested in doing business with. If this is the type of community building we have to expect for the future... good luck, without me. And then... try commenting on their web page, log in with your google account. They actually want access to your google contacts. WTF? This seems to be a general problem with Vaadin. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 12:19:05 PM UTC+1, Joonas Lehtinen wrote: *The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at: * * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/PxU-tpYn7W8J. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
I would also like to thank all that prepare this survey result and all the members of Steering Committee. It will help us with how to use GWT in feature. And it confirm we are not alone with out problems ;) Regards, Matic On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:07:34 PM UTC+1, Ali Jalal wrote: Many thanks to Vaadin, Steering Committee and GWT community for such a useful report. On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Ryan Shillington ryan-goo...@onlyinsight.com javascript: wrote: I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to make this so consumable. I found it very interesting to read. If getting my (spam-me-as-much-as-you-want) email was the cost, I'd pay that again happily. Whoever put this together did a very, very good job. If this had been a big table of numbers I wouldn't have learned as much. Thanks again, Ryan On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 5:19:05 AM UTC-6, Joonas Lehtinen wrote: *The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at:* * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/HX43ol9dILIJ. To post to this group, send email to google-we...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/Hhz76JJAkUAJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
*The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at:* * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/tdTyoSioFcwJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
On 12/4/2012 4:19 AM, Joonas Lehtinen wrote: *The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at:* * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * My friend, Marge Innovera, wishes you would mention her in the report. Cheers, jec -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
Thank you for releasing these results. However, I find it disconcerting and somewhat ominous that Vaadin is using this survey as a marketing tool. It would have been preferable, in my opinion, if the report had been released as a direct link in the notification email I received, instead of sending me to a Vaadin marketing page with a form to request an email that contains a link to download the report. The community is already concerned about the future of GWT since it was released as open source. Linking it so closely Vaadin does not quiet those concerns. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 9:25:55 AM UTC-5, jchimene wrote: On 12/4/2012 4:19 AM, Joonas Lehtinen wrote: *The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at: * * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * My friend, Marge Innovera, wishes you would mention her in the report. Cheers, jec -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/H2noDq7oMLAJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
I agree 100%. I will be sharing it internally, but I will not tweet/etc about a report that requires people to share their email with Vaadin to download a PDF. That said, thank you Joonas for putting this together. I appreciate the work you guys do. I just disagree with how this is being delivered. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:30:11 AM UTC-5, AJ wrote: Thank you for releasing these results. However, I find it disconcerting and somewhat ominous that Vaadin is using this survey as a marketing tool. It would have been preferable, in my opinion, if the report had been released as a direct link in the notification email I received, instead of sending me to a Vaadin marketing page with a form to request an email that contains a link to download the report. The community is already concerned about the future of GWT since it was released as open source. Linking it so closely Vaadin does not quiet those concerns. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 9:25:55 AM UTC-5, jchimene wrote: On 12/4/2012 4:19 AM, Joonas Lehtinen wrote: *The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at:* * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * My friend, Marge Innovera, wishes you would mention her in the report. Cheers, jec -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/i167NdfNOH8J. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
Compiling such a report and making it that well readable and appealing takes time and effort (in short, money). The least they can have for that is having their colours and logo in front of it. I care about the decisions the commitee is going to make and not about tiny stuff like who gets to take front seat. - Oliver On 4 Dec 2012 16:30, AJ ajelco...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for releasing these results. However, I find it disconcerting and somewhat ominous that Vaadin is using this survey as a marketing tool. It would have been preferable, in my opinion, if the report had been released as a direct link in the notification email I received, instead of sending me to a Vaadin marketing page with a form to request an email that contains a link to download the report. The community is already concerned about the future of GWT since it was released as open source. Linking it so closely Vaadin does not quiet those concerns. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 9:25:55 AM UTC-5, jchimene wrote: On 12/4/2012 4:19 AM, Joonas Lehtinen wrote: *The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at:* * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * My friend, Marge Innovera, wishes you would mention her in the report. Cheers, jec -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/H2noDq7oMLAJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
Well, I agree with you as well. In short, branding/logo is ok. Hiding it behind an email collection page is less ok. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/HRyhCTY6N3YJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
I hope that giving name/email for downloading the report is not a big deal. If it is, just give a fake name and a temporary email address - we do not mind :) But because the 2nd part of the report (GWT wishlist) is not yet ready, one might want to hold on to that temporary email for a while or so. We'll send an update when the wishlist is online. - Joonas On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 5:42:57 PM UTC+2, Andy wrote: I agree 100%. I will be sharing it internally, but I will not tweet/etc about a report that requires people to share their email with Vaadin to download a PDF. That said, thank you Joonas for putting this together. I appreciate the work you guys do. I just disagree with how this is being delivered. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:30:11 AM UTC-5, AJ wrote: Thank you for releasing these results. However, I find it disconcerting and somewhat ominous that Vaadin is using this survey as a marketing tool. It would have been preferable, in my opinion, if the report had been released as a direct link in the notification email I received, instead of sending me to a Vaadin marketing page with a form to request an email that contains a link to download the report. The community is already concerned about the future of GWT since it was released as open source. Linking it so closely Vaadin does not quiet those concerns. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 9:25:55 AM UTC-5, jchimene wrote: On 12/4/2012 4:19 AM, Joonas Lehtinen wrote: *The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at:* * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * My friend, Marge Innovera, wishes you would mention her in the report. Cheers, jec -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/hnDEtRev0ckJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
I really don't care that much. I was just providing feedback. You have my name and email. May you generate many new leads! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/yflQS4HlStAJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
On 12/04/2012 07:25 AM, Jeffrey Chimene wrote: On 12/4/2012 4:19 AM, Joonas Lehtinen wrote: *The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at:* * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * My friend, Marge Innovera, wishes you would mention her in the report. Cheers, jec To answer my own question: n = 1349 Simple margin of error @ 95% confidence interval is +-2% Caveat: Since the respondents were self-selecting, the sample is not random, so this simple MoE calculation is not accurate -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
There's a mention about very good tools for automated tests, such as Jucikito but Google doesn't find anything for Jucikito, is there a typo? I'd love to know what this very good tool is exactly. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:19:05 AM UTC-5, Joonas Lehtinen wrote: *The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at: * * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/m5TI0OAd9-sJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
Maybe it's Jukito : http://code.google.com/p/jukito/ Le mardi 4 décembre 2012 18:18:44 UTC+1, Benjamin DeLillo a écrit : There's a mention about very good tools for automated tests, such as Jucikito but Google doesn't find anything for Jucikito, is there a typo? I'd love to know what this very good tool is exactly. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:19:05 AM UTC-5, Joonas Lehtinen wrote: *The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at:* * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/vu8wimt16PoJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yeah, the email-collection page is obnoxious, though I suppose I understand why it's there. I should point out that mailinator.com is made for exactly this situation. You provide any address at mailinator.com, then browse to http://mailinator.com to check messages sent to that address with no signup or password check. Messages stay around for a short time, maybe 30-60 minutes. On 12/04/2012 10:30 AM, AJ wrote: Thank you for releasing these results. However, I find it disconcerting and somewhat ominous that Vaadin is using this survey as a marketing tool. It would have been preferable, in my opinion, if the report had been released as a direct link in the notification email I received, instead of sending me to a Vaadin marketing page with a form to request an email that contains a link to download the report. The community is already concerned about the future of GWT since it was released as open source. Linking it so closely Vaadin does not quiet those concerns. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 9:25:55 AM UTC-5, jchimene wrote: On 12/4/2012 4:19 AM, Joonas Lehtinen wrote: *The GWT community have been having many questions about the Future of GWT. Questions like: Where is GWT going? How is GWT used today? What are the challenges they are facing? What is the competition? Should I build my next project with GWT? When joining the GWT steering committee and deciding to include a full copy of GWT into Vaadin 7 we had the same questions. In the end we stepped forward and asked the GWT community. Now after 2 months of asking and receiving responses to the dozens of questions we had from over over 1300 GWT users, we compiled all of this together and are proud to present you with some answers in for of 30 page long report. We would like to thank everyone who participated: You - the very active GWT community who answered, GWT steering committee members and other GWT experts who helped create the questions and analyze the answers, Vaadin team and David Booth who coordinated the effort. Enough talking, download your personal copy of The Future of GWT Report at:* * https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 https://vaadin.com/gwt/report-2012 * My friend, Marge Innovera, wishes you would mention her in the report. Cheers, jec -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/H2noDq7oMLAJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlC+SgcACgkQ5IyIbnMUeTtS1ACfb+ZHmxUaQpap6UviajvD6c2y 2SoAnR+YA+1kh3EZyiiHd4VDoJPmbb0Q =+Raw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
I am evaluating a chart library for my incoming project. I can not find any information about chart library for GWT. Is it included in the next report? I am trying to find the most popular chart library for GWT. James -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/8lfZPCfn7v4J. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: The Future of GWT Report 2012 Published
Not sure about the most popular, but we use Highcharts (commercial) with the Moxie adapter. Very slick charts that handle resizing etc nicely. You can also play with them easily using JSFiddle. On Wednesday, 5 December 2012 07:05:26 UTC+11, James wrote: I am evaluating a chart library for my incoming project. I can not find any information about chart library for GWT. Is it included in the next report? I am trying to find the most popular chart library for GWT. James -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/JaW288UthsIJ. To post to this group, send email to google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
