EXT-GWT why this log?

2014-12-11 Thread Łukasz Bączek

Hello,
Why in the logs I have something like GWT 2.6.0?

Rebinding com.google.gwt.core.client.impl.SchedulerImpl
   Checking rule generate-with 
class='com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.rebind.RequestFactoryGenerator'/
  [WARN] Unknown type 
'com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.shared.RequestFactory' specified 
in deferred binding rule
   Checking rule generate-with 
class='com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.rebind.RequestFactoryEditorDriverGenerator'/
  [WARN] Unknown type 
'com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.client.RequestFactoryEditorDriver' 
specified in deferred binding rule
   Checking rule generate-with 
class='com.google.gwt.editor.rebind.SimpleBeanEditorDriverGenerator'/
  [WARN] Detected warnings related to 
'com.google.gwt.editor.client.SimpleBeanEditorDriver'.   Are 
validation-api-version.jar and validation-api-version-sources.jar on 
the classpath?
  [WARN] Unknown type 
'com.google.gwt.editor.client.SimpleBeanEditorDriver' specified in 
deferred binding rule

Rebinding com.google.gwt.useragent.client.UserAgentAsserter
   Checking rule generate-with 
class='com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.rebind.RequestFactoryGenerator'/
  [WARN] Unknown type 
'com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.shared.RequestFactory' specified 
in deferred binding rule
   Checking rule generate-with 
class='com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.rebind.RequestFactoryEditorDriverGenerator'/
  [WARN] Unknown type 
'com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.client.RequestFactoryEditorDriver' 
specified in deferred binding rule

Rebinding com.google.gwt.useragent.client.UserAgent
   Checking rule generate-with 
class='com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.rebind.RequestFactoryGenerator'/
  [WARN] Unknown type 
'com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.shared.RequestFactory' specified 
in deferred binding rule
   Checking rule generate-with 
class='com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.rebind.RequestFactoryEditorDriverGenerator'/
  [WARN] Unknown type 
'com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.client.RequestFactoryEditorDriver' 
specified in deferred binding rule

Rebinding com.google.gwt.user.client.DocumentModeAsserter
   Checking rule generate-with 
class='com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.rebind.RequestFactoryGenerator'/
  [WARN] Unknown type 
'com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.shared.RequestFactory' specified 
in deferred binding rule
   Checking rule generate-with 
class='com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.rebind.RequestFactoryEditorDriverGenerator'/
  [WARN] Unknown type 
'com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.client.RequestFactoryEditorDriver' 
specified in deferred binding rule
Rebinding 
com.google.gwt.user.client.DocumentModeAsserter.DocumentModeProperty
   Checking rule generate-with 
class='com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.rebind.RequestFactoryGenerator'/
  [WARN] Unknown type 
'com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.shared.RequestFactory' specified 
in deferred binding rule
   Checking rule generate-with 
class='com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.rebind.RequestFactoryEditorDriverGenerator'/
  [WARN] Unknown type 
'com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.client.RequestFactoryEditorDriver' 
specified in deferred binding rule
Rebinding 
com.google.gwt.logging.client.LogConfiguration.LogConfigurationImplNull
   Checking rule generate-with 
class='com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.rebind.RequestFactoryGenerator'/
  [WARN] Unknown type 
'com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.shared.RequestFactory' specified 
in deferred binding rule
   Checking rule generate-with 
class='com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.rebind.RequestFactoryEditorDriverGenerator'/
  [WARN] Unknown type 
'com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.client.RequestFactoryEditorDriver' 
specified in deferred binding rule

Rebinding com.google.gwt.logging.client.LogConfiguration
   Checking rule generate-with 
class='com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.rebind.RequestFactoryGenerator'/
  [WARN] Unknown type 
'com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.shared.RequestFactory' specified 
in deferred binding rule
   Checking rule generate-with 
class='com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.rebind.RequestFactoryEditorDriverGenerator'/
  [WARN] Unknown type 
'com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.client.RequestFactoryEditorDriver' 
specified in deferred binding rule

Rebinding org.yournamehere.client.MainEntryPoint
   Checking rule generate-with 
class='com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.rebind.RequestFactoryGenerator'/
  [WARN] Unknown type 
'com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.shared.RequestFactory' specified 
in deferred binding rule
   Checking rule generate-with 
class='com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.rebind.RequestFactoryEditorDriverGenerator'/
  [WARN] Unknown type 
'com.google.web.bindery.requestfactory.gwt.client.RequestFactoryEditorDriver' 
specified in 

Type cast in Ext-GWT

2011-08-09 Thread Nandha Griantek
Hi  have a problem while type cast

see this code

LayoutContainer chcontainer =
(LayoutContainer)containerAll.getWidget(index);

here container returns the Widget

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Re: Type cast in Ext-GWT

2011-08-09 Thread Kevin Jordan
Is it giving you a ClassCastException or something?  Make sure you're
getting the right index and what's in that index is actually a
LayoutContainer.  Other than that, it looks fine.  LayoutContainer
extends GWT's Widget in GXT so that's a valid downward cast.

On Aug 9, 7:55 am, Nandha Griantek nandhagr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi  have a problem while type cast

 see this code

 LayoutContainer chcontainer =
 (LayoutContainer)containerAll.getWidget(index);

 here container returns the Widget

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Re: Ext GWT 3.0 Developer Preview 1

2011-06-17 Thread Ezequiel Palumbo
I really like ExtGWT's way.
I'll be waiting for the updates.

Ezequiel.-

On 17 jun, 05:16, Alain Ekambi jazzmatad...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Looks pretty promising i would say

 2011/6/17 Juan Pablo Gardella gardellajuanpa...@gmail.com









  Great work folks!!

  2011/6/16 Gal Dolber gal.dol...@gmail.com

  Guaw, for the first time I'm interested! looks really promising

  On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Flori floon...@googlemail.com wrote:

  For anyone who can no longer expect it:
 http://www.sencha.com/blog/ext-gwt-3-dev-preview-1/

  Looks promising. Waiting for the first RC... ;)

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 GWT API for  non Java based 
 platformshttp://code.google.com/p/gwt4air/http://www.gwt4air.appspot.com/

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Ext GWT 3.0 Developer Preview 1

2011-06-16 Thread Flori
For anyone who can no longer expect it: 
http://www.sencha.com/blog/ext-gwt-3-dev-preview-1/

Looks promising. Waiting for the first RC... ;)

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Re: Ext GWT 3.0 Developer Preview 1

2011-06-16 Thread Gal Dolber
Guaw, for the first time I'm interested! looks really promising

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Flori floon...@googlemail.com wrote:

 For anyone who can no longer expect it:
 http://www.sencha.com/blog/ext-gwt-3-dev-preview-1/

 Looks promising. Waiting for the first RC... ;)

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Re: Ext GWT 3.0 Developer Preview 1

2011-06-16 Thread Juan Pablo Gardella
Great work folks!!

2011/6/16 Gal Dolber gal.dol...@gmail.com

 Guaw, for the first time I'm interested! looks really promising

 On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Flori floon...@googlemail.com wrote:

 For anyone who can no longer expect it:
 http://www.sencha.com/blog/ext-gwt-3-dev-preview-1/

 Looks promising. Waiting for the first RC... ;)

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GWT Designer/Ext-GWT/UiBinder

2011-05-18 Thread Aza
Is code generated by Ext-GWT (integrated into GWT Designer) compatible
with UiBinder?
If yes, is it bi-directional as per GPE embedded GWT Designer?

Thanks

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Re: GWT Designer/Ext-GWT/UiBinder

2011-05-18 Thread Aza Tek
Any comments on this...
Or is this just a bad question?

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Aza azat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is code generated by Ext-GWT (integrated into GWT Designer) compatible
 with UiBinder?
 If yes, is it bi-directional as per GPE embedded GWT Designer?

 Thanks


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Re: GWT Designer/Ext-GWT/UiBinder

2011-05-18 Thread Juan Pablo Gardella
try in Ext-GWT forum too

2011/5/18 Aza Tek azat...@gmail.com

 Any comments on this...
 Or is this just a bad question?

 On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Aza azat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is code generated by Ext-GWT (integrated into GWT Designer) compatible
 with UiBinder?
 If yes, is it bi-directional as per GPE embedded GWT Designer?

 Thanks


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Re: GWT Designer/Ext-GWT/UiBinder

2011-05-18 Thread Jeff Larsen
The 2.2.x versions no. Not compatible. 

I talked with the sencha guy at IO, and he said that 3.0 will be UI binder 
compatible. Assuming he is correct (and I have no reason to doubt this) it 
will be bi-directional. That is the way GWT designer works. It writes and 
processes the code you use. 

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Re: GWT Designer/Ext-GWT/UiBinder

2011-05-18 Thread Aza Tek
Thanks Jeff, really looking forward to that.


On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Jeff Larsen larse...@gmail.com wrote:

 The 2.2.x versions no. Not compatible.

 I talked with the sencha guy at IO, and he said that 3.0 will be UI binder
 compatible. Assuming he is correct (and I have no reason to doubt this) it
 will be bi-directional. That is the way GWT designer works. It writes and
 processes the code you use.


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Re: GWT Designer/Ext-GWT/UiBinder

2011-05-18 Thread Eric Clayberg
No. GXT is only supported for GWT Java UIs.

On May 17, 5:06 pm, Aza azat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is code generated by Ext-GWT (integrated into GWT Designer) compatible
 with UiBinder?
 If yes, is it bi-directional as per GPE embedded GWT Designer?

 Thanks

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Beginner: Ext GWT - NoClassDefFoundError: com/google/gwt/core/ext/Generator

2011-05-01 Thread Will
Hi,

I have set up the basic GWT HelloWorld equivalent and all works fine..
RPC call etc..
I have followed the most basic Ext GWT (Sencha) tutorial to convert
this to ExtGWT project

ref: http://www.sencha.com/learn/Ext_GWT_Getting_Started_Tutorials

Its a really simple tutorial...copy in resources, a few minor
edits It takes a few mins. It worked first time but refuses to
work now!!! Once I insert the line inheriting Ext stuff in my
xxx.gwt.xml file I get a runtime error where it cant finid the GWT
Generator class. I can see from eclipse debug mode that the GWT jars,
gwt-dev.jar and gwt-user.jar:  (from Eclipse plugin) are on
classpath..

xxx.gwt.xml file:
!-- Other module inherits  --
  inherits name=com.extjs.gxt.ui.GXT /

At run time an exception is thrown as it fails to find com/google/gwt/
core/ext/Generator. If i remove this 'inherit' the error disappears!

Loading modules
   com.hello.gwt.HelloGWT
  Loading inherited module 'com.extjs.gxt.ui.GXT'
 [ERROR] Unexpected error while processing XML
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/google/gwt/core/ext/Generator
at java.lang.ClassLoader.findBootstrapClass(Native Method)

Any tips greatly appreciated...

Best regards,
W

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Ext gwt and HSQLDB

2010-05-01 Thread vitha
I create a form using ext gwt sucessfully. Then i have to connect to
HSQLDB using hibernate gilead and i want to use Ant. I dont have any
idea on thatplz help mewhere should to start and end. Plz
provide ant example .thanks.

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EXT-GWT Panel problem

2010-04-23 Thread cool boy
The side border of panel of Ext is not viewed in chrome and other web
browser
But it is only visible in internet explorer

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ext-gwt

2010-04-13 Thread Debjani Roy
Hi,

I would like to know about any commercial implementation with ext-gwt
- how buggy is it etc. Also does it have support for UIBinder

Thanks

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Does ext-gwt widget work with gwt layout?

2010-03-17 Thread zggame
We need a fairly advanced data-grid and it is quite time-consuming to
build a really nice one with all the bells and whistles.   I am
looking into ext-gwt as its grid looks fairly good.  But some quite
experiments gives me some doubt. Their events are not compatible with
GWT's.  So I have to build some adapter for it?  Also, the width/
height seems does not work well with GWT's layout.   Does anyone have
some experience with that?  What other pitfall do I have?  Thanks.

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Re: EXT-GWT BeanModelTag

2009-11-03 Thread charlie

Jboss NCDeff errors are ubiquitous, try another servlet container to
see if its jboss or your app.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:15 AM, iaio81 stefano.taurie...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 I'm developing with EXT-GWT and I've problem with Entity in a separate
 jar.
 I've created entity class that implements BeanModelTag, but JBoss
 doesn't deploy successfully because give me a NoClassDefError on
 BeanModelTag.help me please
 


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Re: EXT-GWT BeanModelTag

2009-11-03 Thread iaio81

According to you, I have a separate jar with all entiites with
BeanModelTag implementation. In this jar I put in the persistence.xml
this code -- .jar-filegxt.jar/jar-file..   Is
it enough or I'm missing something?

On 3 Nov, 18:52, charlie charlie.f...@gmail.com wrote:
 Jboss NCDeff errors are ubiquitous, try another servlet container to
 see if its jboss or your app.



 On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:15 AM, iaio81 stefano.taurie...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all,
  I'm developing with EXT-GWT and I've problem with Entity in a separate
  jar.
  I've created entity class that implements BeanModelTag, but JBoss
  doesn't deploy successfully because give me a NoClassDefError on
  BeanModelTag.help me please
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Re: ext-GWT vs GWT-ext

2009-09-03 Thread Shawn Brown

Hi,

 ExtGWT --which
 contains the JS underlying GWTExt - upto 2.0.2-- did a dirty move a
 year or so ago when they changed their licensing model; as a result
 there was a falling out between the two projects.

Um, ExtJS was underlying GWTExt - no?
ExtJS went GPL - no?

I guess if you are of a certain ideology then you prefer a BSD type
license.  Calling moves to the GPL dirty are flame bait I think.

Sun went GPL with Java.  Why don't you stop programming with Java?

Shawn

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Re: ext-GWT vs GWT-ext

2009-09-03 Thread Martin Kraus
Great, another clueless response.

um, you are a *Ext* fanboy - no?

There's a huge difference between a platform / app server / Java and a
library being GPL. A library being GPL means you need you release the source
of your entire application, simple. An app server or Java being GPL has
absolutely no effect on the licensing and distribution of your application
while  using  GPL library means that you need to release all your code
making it unsuitable for use in commercial products. btw where did you read
that Java bait and switched to GPL?

We were considering using products from the Ext family a long time ago but
avoid it like the plague now. Our legal team looked at it and found numerous
violations and we did report in on the Ext / ExtGWT forums but the posts
were mostly ignored or deleted. For example ExtGWT still uses some code from
SWT. SWT is licensed under EPL and EPL is well documented to be incompatible
with GPL. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_Public_License  Since we
are no longer planning on using ExtGWT, I have no intentions of burning any
more time trying to get them to resolve this.

If you are going to make such statements or take a bait, do your homework
first.

To the original poster : we have decided to go with GWT and GWT incubator
widgets and have had excellent results.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Shawn Brown big.coffee.lo...@gmail.comwrote:


 Hi,

  ExtGWT --which
  contains the JS underlying GWTExt - upto 2.0.2-- did a dirty move a
  year or so ago when they changed their licensing model; as a result
  there was a falling out between the two projects.

 Um, ExtJS was underlying GWTExt - no?
 ExtJS went GPL - no?

 I guess if you are of a certain ideology then you prefer a BSD type
 license.  Calling moves to the GPL dirty are flame bait I think.

 Sun went GPL with Java.  Why don't you stop programming with Java?

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Re: ext-GWT vs GWT-ext

2009-09-03 Thread Shawn Brown

I don't think your response attacking me is productive.  I wish you
would stop your personal attacks. Please show me where I attacked you
personally and I will rephrase it (just consider it a bug).

 Great, another clueless response.

Maybe, maybe not.

 There's a huge difference between a platform / app server / Java and a
 library being GPL. A library being GPL means you need you release the source
 of your entire application, simple. An app server or Java being GPL has
 absolutely no effect on the licensing and distribution of your application
 while  using GPL library means that you need to release all your code
 making it unsuitable for use in commercial products.

So according to your analysis ExtGWT is unsuitable for commercial
products.  So what.  The authors of ExtGWT are free to release their
work under any license they choose.  Just because the developers don't
see their work serving your purposes...so what.  A developer can
choose any license they wish for their work.  That is what the truth
is so why are you calling me names?

You somehow believe that ExtGWT developers should only release their
work so you can use it in your commercial product.  Other developers
who are not distributing the ExtGWT library may not feel the same way.
 For example:

A company that modifies open source software released under the GPL is
not considered to be distributing (GPL v. 2) or conveying (GPL v. 3)
when it runs the modified software as part of collaborative cloud
computing. Therefore, the company does not have to contribute the
modified software back to the community pursuant to the copyleft
clause of the GPL.

How about cases where the source code is not modified and the
resulting java script is run over a network.  Are you asserting that a
javascript application run over a network requires that the source for
the javascript be made available just because a GPLd library was used
in generating the javascript that is run in the clouds.

  Our legal team looked at it and found numerous
 violations and we did report in on the Ext / ExtGWT forums but the posts
 were mostly ignored or deleted.
 SWT. SWT is licensed under EPL and EPL is well documented to be incompatible
 with GPL. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_Public_License  Since we
 are no longer planning on using ExtGWT, I have no intentions of burning any
 more time trying to get them to resolve this.

Hmmn, let's think about this.  The reason they changed in the first
place was they had multiple incompatible licenses.  You assert they
are intending to violate the EPL.  I suspect they will rewrite that as
soon as they can.

 If you are going to make such statements or take a bait, do your homework
 first.

Well you can keep using the ExtJS up to what it is 2.0.2 just like
they said you could.  They haven't changed that at all.  They are no
longer offering code under that license though.

I did my homework.  The developers felt that releasing with the type
of license that would have been beneficial to you, would have allowed
you to take what they felt was unfair advantage of their work.  As
developers, they choose (right or wrong for the ultimate success of
their project) a more restrictive license that they felt was in the
best interest of their development.

I am sorry you don't agree.  The SWT issue surely needs to be worked
out but I still fail to see why a developer can not choose to release
their new work under a different license than they did in the past.  I
honestly don't consider that dirty.

Ok the developers of ExtGWT thought people were taking advantage of
them.  You are angry because you can't take advantage of them.

Call me clueless all you want but I still fail to see how it makes the
ExtGWT developers dirty.   Anyway, thank you for your time.

All the Best,

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Re: ext-GWT vs GWT-ext

2009-09-03 Thread martin.krau...@gmail.com

I apologize if you felt that it was a personal attack but truthfully
this response of yours really make very little sense. I urge you to
read it again with an open mind.

What you're saying is that any developer can do anything with their
product at anytime and you try to justify their move. Unfortunaltey
the software world and licensing does not work that way when there are
other libraries with their own licenses to adhere to.

Let me quote from the EPL link I provided earlier :

The EPL 1.0 is not compatible with the GPL, and a work created by
combining a work licensed under the GPL with a work licensed under the
EPL cannot be lawfully distributed.


On Sep 3, 10:25 am, Shawn Brown big.coffee.lo...@gmail.com wrote:

  There's a huge difference between a platform / app server / Java and a
  library being GPL. A library being GPL means you need you release the source
  of your entire application, simple. An app server or Java being GPL has
  absolutely no effect on the licensing and distribution of your application
  while  using GPL library means that you need to release all your code
  making it unsuitable for use in commercial products.

 So according to your analysis ExtGWT is unsuitable for commercial
 products.  So what.  The authors of ExtGWT are free to release their
 work under any license they choose.  Just because the developers don't
 see their work serving your purposes...so what.  A developer can
 choose any license they wish for their work.  That is what the truth
 is so why are you calling me names?

 You somehow believe that ExtGWT developers should only release their
 work so you can use it in your commercial product.  Other developers
 who are not distributing the ExtGWT library may not feel the same way.
  For example:

 A company that modifies open source software released under the GPL is
 not considered to be distributing (GPL v. 2) or conveying (GPL v. 3)
 when it runs the modified software as part of collaborative cloud
 computing. Therefore, the company does not have to contribute the
 modified software back to the community pursuant to the copyleft
 clause of the GPL.

 How about cases where the source code is not modified and the
 resulting java script is run over a network.  Are you asserting that a
 javascript application run over a network requires that the source for
 the javascript be made available just because a GPLd library was used
 in generating the javascript that is run in the clouds.


Good example! GPL does not require you to distribute your code under
such circumstances, however the Ext team put their own spin on how
their GPL license should be interpreted. Try posting this very
question on the Ext / ExtGWT forum. I guarantee that your post will
not get a public response and if you email them you will get a
response saying that you will require a license even if you are using
their software as part part of collaborative cloud computing which is
totally contradictory to what GPL permits. This is the very reason
they will not respond in the public forum.


   Our legal team looked at it and found numerous
  violations and we did report in on the Ext / ExtGWT forums but the posts
  were mostly ignored or deleted.
  SWT. SWT is licensed under EPL and EPL is well documented to be incompatible
  with GPL. Seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_Public_License Since we
  are no longer planning on using ExtGWT, I have no intentions of burning any
  more time trying to get them to resolve this.

 Hmmn, let's think about this.  The reason they changed in the first
 place was they had multiple incompatible licenses.  You assert they
 are intending to violate the EPL.  I suspect they will rewrite that as
 soon as they can.


You suspect?? Why do you defend such violations based on speculation
and what you think they will do?

  If you are going to make such statements or take a bait, do your homework
  first.

 Well you can keep using the ExtJS up to what it is 2.0.2 just like
 they said you could.  They haven't changed that at all.  They are no
 longer offering code under that license though.

 I did my homework.  The developers felt that releasing with the type
 of license that would have been beneficial to you, would have allowed
 you to take what they felt was unfair advantage of their work.  As
 developers, they choose (right or wrong for the ultimate success of
 their project) a more restrictive license that they felt was in the
 best interest of their development.


Are you part of the Ext / ExtGWT team and speaking on behalf of them?
Or simply mind reading?

 I am sorry you don't agree.  The SWT issue surely needs to be worked
 out but I still fail to see why a developer can not choose to release
 their new work under a different license than they did in the past.  I
 honestly don't consider that dirty.


Let me quote this again for you :

The EPL 1.0 is not compatible with the GPL, and a work created by
combining a work licensed under the GPL with a work licensed 

Re: ext-GWT vs GWT-ext

2009-08-31 Thread Dave

GWTExt is not dead, they're still making maintenance releases, but the
lead developer (Sanjiv Jivan) has moved on to SmartGWT. ExtGWT --which
contains the JS underlying GWTExt - upto 2.0.2-- did a dirty move a
year or so ago when they changed their licensing model; as a result
there was a falling out between the two projects.

IMO, SmartGWT is the widget library of choice. It's based on a mature
Java enterprise client/server technology (SmartClient); seven years of
RIA experience; great support, and the project is lead by Sanjiv
Jivan. Here's a good discussion of its merits (article goes beyond
Groovy): 
http://www.cacoethes.co.uk/blog/groovyandgrails/introducing-smartgwt-to-grails

Regards,
Dave

On Aug 30, 4:54 pm, Thomas Broyer t.bro...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 30 août, 11:59, muhannad nasser muhannadna...@gmail.com wrote:

  i wanna choose one of these libraries to start my project... i am searching
  for a good comparison between those two or any other library that may do the
  job...

 GWT-Ext was a *wrapper* around the pure-JS Ext-JS lib, just like
 SmartGWT is a wrapper around SmartClient (AFAICT); this means that
 your page will load the whole set of widgets, classes, methods, etc.
 even those that won't ever be used.

 Ext-GWT (or GXT) on the other hand is a *port* of Ext-JS over to GWT,
 which means that only the code you actually use will end in the
 javascript loaded by the browser.

 That being said, I haven't ever used any of those libs, so I can't
 really tell which one to choose...
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ext-GWT vs GWT-ext

2009-08-30 Thread muhannad nasser
i wanna choose one of these libraries to start my project... i am searching
for a good comparison between those two or any other library that may do the
job...

thanks


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Re: ext-GWT vs GWT-ext

2009-08-30 Thread Shawn Brown

 i wanna choose one of these libraries to start my project... i am searching
 for a good comparison between those two or any other library that may do the
 job...
I think gwt-ext is dead.  Ext-GWT was the basis for gwt-ext but
Ext-GWT went gpl and gwt-ext got killed.  The developers of gwt-ext
moved to smartGWT I think.

I'm happy with ext-gwt but look at the docs of both smartGWT and
ext-GWT.  One may be easier for you to start.  Also, seach this forum
for comparisons of Ext-Gwt and smartGWT.   There have been some
discussions...

The licenses are different too.  Ext-Gwt is gpl but smartGWT may be
lgpl (double check).

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Re: ext-GWT vs GWT-ext

2009-08-30 Thread muhannad nasser
thanks Shawn.. :)

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Shawn Brown big.coffee.lo...@gmail.comwrote:


  i wanna choose one of these libraries to start my project... i am
 searching
  for a good comparison between those two or any other library that may do
 the
  job...
 I think gwt-ext is dead.  Ext-GWT was the basis for gwt-ext but
 Ext-GWT went gpl and gwt-ext got killed.  The developers of gwt-ext
 moved to smartGWT I think.

 I'm happy with ext-gwt but look at the docs of both smartGWT and
 ext-GWT.  One may be easier for you to start.  Also, seach this forum
 for comparisons of Ext-Gwt and smartGWT.   There have been some
 discussions...

 The licenses are different too.  Ext-Gwt is gpl but smartGWT may be
 lgpl (double check).

 Shawn

 



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Re: ext-GWT vs GWT-ext

2009-08-30 Thread Thomas Broyer



On 30 août, 11:59, muhannad nasser muhannadna...@gmail.com wrote:
 i wanna choose one of these libraries to start my project... i am searching
 for a good comparison between those two or any other library that may do the
 job...

GWT-Ext was a *wrapper* around the pure-JS Ext-JS lib, just like
SmartGWT is a wrapper around SmartClient (AFAICT); this means that
your page will load the whole set of widgets, classes, methods, etc.
even those that won't ever be used.

Ext-GWT (or GXT) on the other hand is a *port* of Ext-JS over to GWT,
which means that only the code you actually use will end in the
javascript loaded by the browser.

That being said, I haven't ever used any of those libs, so I can't
really tell which one to choose...
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EXT GWT ComboxBox

2009-08-07 Thread Guess What

I am using a EXT GWT ComboBox. I want to show something like for every
change of county i want to populate State .
I  think i need to add some listener events to capture the selected
index . Can anyone show me a sample of how to do a country state
dropdown in GWT . I also want to know how to setSelectedINdex of the
County down to some default value in the xombox box I just got the
county populated. This is my code

ComboBoxCountryList combo = new ComboBox CountryList ();
combo.setEmptyText(Select a Country ...);
combo.setDisplayField(key);
combo.setWidth(150);
combo.setStore(countryValues);
combo.setTypeAhead(true);
combo.setTriggerAction(TriggerAction.ALL);
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Ext-GWT TreeGrid indirectly calls a GWT-RPC callback? Why?

2009-07-29 Thread Pandaman

I am using GWT-RPC to populate Ext-GWT TreeGrids with data from a
server. I am using 4 callbacks to populate 6 TreeGrids. As the
callback onSuccess function modifies the TreeGrid by inserting rows,
the TreeGridView needs to render the rows. The callback class is
called MainPnlSummaryTablesAsyncCallback.

For some reason, when it needs to determine the TreeGridView's
scroller's offsetHeight via JSNI, onSuccess or onFailure is called on
another instance of the callback in the stack trace. A copy of the
stack trace I encountered is below.

Isn't this really weird? Why is this happening?

FYI I am using Ext-GWT 2.0.1 and GWT 1.7.0 and I am using hosted mode
browser to debug this, although I am pretty sure that this is an issue
for web mode.


PnlSummaryClientDebug_as10node6 [Java Application]
com.google.gwt.dev.HostedMode at localhost:3595
Thread [main] (Suspended (breakpoint at line 403 in MainPage
$MainPnlSummaryTablesAsyncCallback))
MainPage$8(MainPage
$MainPnlSummaryTablesAsyncCallback).onSuccess
(GWTPairAggregateStringGWTTable,AggregateStringGWTTable) line:
403
MainPage$8(MainPage
$MainPnlSummaryTablesAsyncCallback).onSuccess(Object) line: 1
RequestCallbackAdapterT.onResponseReceived(Request,
Response) line: 215
Request.fireOnResponseReceivedImpl(RequestCallback) line:
264
Request.fireOnResponseReceivedAndCatch(GWT
$UncaughtExceptionHandler, RequestCallback) line: 236
Request.fireOnResponseReceived(RequestCallback) line:
227
NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Method, Object, Object[])
line: not available [native method] [local variables unavailable]
NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Object, Object[]) line:
39
DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Object, Object[])
line: 25
Method.invoke(Object, Object...) line: 597
MethodAdaptor.invoke(Object, Object...) line: 103
IDispatchImpl.callMethod(CompilingClassLoader, Object,
Variant[], MethodAdaptor) line: 126
IDispatchProxy.invoke(int, int, Variant[]) line: 155
IDispatchProxy(IDispatchImpl).Invoke(int, int, int, int,
int, int, int, int) line: 294
IDispatchProxy(IDispatchImpl).method6(int[]) line: 194
COMObject.callback6(int[]) line: 117
COM.VtblCall(int, int, int, GUID, int, int, DISPPARAMS,
int, EXCEPINFO, int[]) line: not available [native method]
IDispatch.Invoke(int, GUID, int, int, DISPPARAMS, int,
EXCEPINFO, int[]) line: 64
OleAutomation.invoke(int, int, Variant[], int[], Variant)
line: 493
OleAutomation.invoke(int, Variant[]) line: 417
ModuleSpaceIE6.doInvokeOnWindow(OleAutomation, String,
Variant[]) line: 68
ModuleSpaceIE6.doInvoke(String, Object, Class?[], Object
[]) line: 153
ModuleSpaceIE6(ModuleSpace).invokeNative(String, Object,
Class?[], Object[]) line: 453
ModuleSpaceIE6(ModuleSpace).invokeNativeInt(String,
Object, Class?[], Object[]) line: 207
JavaScriptHost.invokeNativeInt(String, Object, Class?[],
Object[]) line: 75
Element$.getOffsetHeight$(Element) line: not available
El.getHeight(boolean) line: 984
TreeGridView(BufferView).getVisibleRowCount() line:
313
TreeGridView(BufferView).doRender(ListColumnData,
ListModelData, int, int, boolean, boolean) line: 189
TreeGridView(BufferView).doRender(ListColumnData,
ListModelData, int, int, boolean) line: 181
TreeGridView(GridView).renderRows(int, int) line: 1559
TreeGridView(GridView).insertRows(ListStoreModelData,
int, int, boolean) line: 1242
TreeGridView(GridView).onAdd(ListStoreModelData,
ListModelData, int) line: 1293
GridView$5.storeAdd(StoreEventModelData) line: 1179
GridView$5(StoreListenerM).handleEvent(StoreEventM)
line: 22
GridView$5(StoreListenerM).handleEvent(BaseEvent) line:
1
TreeGrid$2(BaseObservable).callListener
(ListenerBaseEvent, BaseEvent) line: 176
TreeGrid$2(BaseObservable).fireEvent(EventType, BaseEvent)
line: 96
TreeGrid$2(ListStoreM).insert(List? extends M, int,
boolean) line: 467
TreeGrid$2(ListStoreM).insert(List? extends M, int)
line: 266
TreeGridM.onAdd(TreeStoreEventM) line: 430
TreeGrid$1.storeAdd(StoreEventM) line: 123
TreeGrid$1(StoreListenerM).handleEvent(StoreEventM)
line: 22
TreeGrid$1(StoreListenerM).handleEvent(BaseEvent) line:
1
TreeStoreM(BaseObservable).callListener
(ListenerBaseEvent, BaseEvent) line: 176
TreeStoreM(BaseObservable).fireEvent(EventType,
BaseEvent) line: 96
TreeStoreM.doInsert(TreeModel, ListTreeModel, int,
boolean, boolean) line: 799
TreeStoreM.insert(ListM, int, boolean) line: 493
TreeStoreM.add(ListM, boolean) line: 163
TreeStoreM.add(M, boolean

Error while adding a third party jar like Ext-Gwt

2009-05-31 Thread Abhay Singh

Hello,

In my project, I am using the Ext-Gwt jar files for creating the GWT
app
and when I am going to compile so, it gives me the following error,
I saw in the some forums, they answered like add classpath to your
project,
but I am already add the jar file into my project and in inherit tag
of gwt.xml file,
but still getting error please give me step by step solution,

java.lang.NoSuchMethodError:
org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.lookup.ProblemReferenceBinding.closestReferenceMatch
()Lorg/eclipse/jdt/internal/compiler/lookup/ReferenceBinding;
at com.google.gwt.dev.javac.JsniChecker$CheckingVisitor.findClass
(JsniChecker.java:231)
at com.google.gwt.dev.javac.JsniChecker$CheckingVisitor.checkRefs
(JsniChecker.java:142)
at com.google.gwt.dev.javac.JsniChecker$CheckingVisitor.endVisit
(JsniChecker.java:65)
at org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.ast.MethodDeclaration.traverse
(MethodDeclaration.java:247)
at org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.ast.TypeDeclaration.traverse
(TypeDeclaration.java:1222)
at
org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.ast.CompilationUnitDeclaration.traverse
(CompilationUnitDeclaration.java:518)
at com.google.gwt.dev.javac.JsniChecker.check(JsniChecker.java:350)
at com.google.gwt.dev.javac.JsniChecker.check(JsniChecker.java:340)
at
com.google.gwt.dev.javac.CompilationUnitInvalidator.validateCompilationUnits
(CompilationUnitInvalidator.java:159)
at com.google.gwt.dev.javac.CompilationState.compile
(CompilationState.java:198)
at com.google.gwt.dev.javac.CompilationState.refresh
(CompilationState.java:178)
at com.google.gwt.dev.javac.CompilationState.init
(CompilationState.java:93)
at com.google.gwt.dev.cfg.ModuleDef.getCompilationState
(ModuleDef.java:264)
at com.google.gwt.dev.Precompile.precompile(Precompile.java:283)
at com.google.gwt.dev.Compiler.run(Compiler.java:170)
at com.google.gwt.dev.Compiler$1.run(Compiler.java:124)
at com.google.gwt.dev.CompileTaskRunner.doRun(CompileTaskRunner.java:
84)
at com.google.gwt.dev.CompileTaskRunner.runWithAppropriateLogger
(CompileTaskRunner.java:78)
at com.google.gwt.dev.Compiler.main(Compiler.java:131)

Thanks in advance.

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Ext GWT Mail Demo

2009-05-05 Thread Paul Grenyer

Hi All

Does anyone know where I can find the source code for the Ext GWT Mail
Demo: http://extjs.com/mail/? It's not included in the GXT download.
Alternatively, does anyone know of a good GXT MVC tutorial?

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Wanted: Ext-GWT (GXT) coder who can hit the ground running

2009-04-01 Thread DaBlick

Spiral Universe is seeking an experienced expert Ext-GWT (GXT)
developer to join our company in developing a cutting-edge school
management, social networking, and education-based RIA.

We are developing hundreds of screens and need someone to join our
existing team and hit the ground running implementing our screen
designs.

As a developer for Spiral you will be responsible for the design,
coding and testing of the GWT and Ext-GWT (GXT) based clientside,
including the middleware calls. You will be expected to learn,
understand and adhere to our architectural standards and practices

Our ideal candidate is a self-starter with excellent communication
skills, who is talented, energetic, and innovative and enjoys working
with robust, large scale, high-volume production applications, while
being in a fun startup environment, surrounded by a team of leading
professionals from around the world on a wide variety of projects. He/
she will develop an sense of ownership for their portions of the
application.

Required qualifications include:

- Significant experience with Ext-GWT (GXT)
- Experience with Google Web Toolkit (GWT)
- Expertise in GUI design, layout and implementation
- Expertise with Java software development, design patterns, and
developing scalable, high
availability Java applications.
- Expertise with Hibernate/Spring frameworks

Also valuable: SVN (Subversion), Eclipse IDE, Ant, Firebug, MVC,
Tomcat, PostgreSQL (RDBMS), XML/XSLT, Javascript/AJAX

Located in Harrison, NY (a 30 min train ride from NYC) - we offer a
competitive salary commensurate with experience, plus, a generous host
of benefits which include: Health Insurance, 401K, paid vacation days
and holidays, flexible work hours, on-site cafeteria, opportunities
for international travel and more.

We are an equal opportunity employer.

Please send resume and salary requirements to
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-02-06 Thread DaBlick

On Feb 4, 3:57 am, Miles T. dupont.nico...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just a word about documentation. It is true that the documentation is
 far from complete but it is not true that it is non-existent.

Well, it's not true that I said it was non-existent either.  :-)

I said it was more accurate to say it was non-existent than it was to
say that it's poor.

I looked at the recent additions to the Wiki that you pointed me to,
and I still maintain the accuracy of my characterization but...

1)  We ARE using Ext-GWT and we are glad we are using it.
Documentation is a serious complaint but we're happy
 otherwise.   It's just our biggest beef and people considering
using GXT need to be aware of it, which was my point.

2)  ExtJS is VERY responsive to bugs and questions, and the forums are
very helpful.  Not a substitute for
documentation, but they dull the pain considerably.

3) I'm ecstatically happy to see that a book is coming out.   I'm
going to preorder copies for all my colleagues.  This
could eliminate the entire complaint if the book is decent.

4) I'm quite happy that work is being done on the Wiki.   But the fact
remains, that not much is there yet.  As far as
I can tell, the GXT MVC architecture (which IMHO is pretty darn
good) is largely undocumented.   One sentence
descriptions often in the Javadocs even.

 The wiki is in work in progress 
 :http://extjs.com/learn/Learn_About_the_Ext_GWT_Library
 and there is also a small help centerhttp://extjs.com/helpcenter/index.jsp

 On 31 jan, 05:42, DaBlick dabl...@gmail.com wrote:

  We used GWT-Ext and tossed it in favor of Ext-GWT (often referred to
  as GXT).

  I've said this before in this forum so I'll just be brief here as you
  can search the forum for more details.

  - It's been said MANY times so you know it's true:  It wouldn't be
  accurate to say the documentation is poor.  It'd be more accurate to
  say that the documentation is NON-EXISTENT and this is a SERIOUS
  SERIOUS issue you must consider before choosing it.   You are,
  apparently, expected to learn the library by reverse-engineering the
  examples.   This means your project will have a potentially steep ramp-
  up time.

  - It's easy to find bugs in Ext-GWT because it's basically been a one-
  man project for most of its life. However...

  - Reported bugs tend to get fixed VERY quickly and if you are
  licensed, you can pick up the fix from the SVN as soon as they are
  fixed.

  - Ext-GWT has what I consider to be a rather nice MVC architecture
  built into it.   It really goes well beyond, say, Swing's MVC because
  it not only de-couples Ms, Vcs and Cs, but decouples data-models, data
  loaders, etc.   The MVC architecture has some problems with its
  generic implementation, but it's pretty good overall.

  - We think the components look nice, but then... we pretty much have
  customized everything.   Our app is highly stylized.
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-02-04 Thread Miles T.

Just a word about documentation. It is true that the documentation is
far from complete but it is not true that it is non-existent.
The wiki is in work in progress : 
http://extjs.com/learn/Learn_About_the_Ext_GWT_Library
and there is also a small help center http://extjs.com/helpcenter/index.jsp

On 31 jan, 05:42, DaBlick dabl...@gmail.com wrote:
 We used GWT-Ext and tossed it in favor of Ext-GWT (often referred to
 as GXT).

 I've said this before in this forum so I'll just be brief here as you
 can search the forum for more details.

 - It's been said MANY times so you know it's true:  It wouldn't be
 accurate to say the documentation is poor.  It'd be more accurate to
 say that the documentation is NON-EXISTENT and this is a SERIOUS
 SERIOUS issue you must consider before choosing it.   You are,
 apparently, expected to learn the library by reverse-engineering the
 examples.   This means your project will have a potentially steep ramp-
 up time.

 - It's easy to find bugs in Ext-GWT because it's basically been a one-
 man project for most of its life. However...

 - Reported bugs tend to get fixed VERY quickly and if you are
 licensed, you can pick up the fix from the SVN as soon as they are
 fixed.

 - Ext-GWT has what I consider to be a rather nice MVC architecture
 built into it.   It really goes well beyond, say, Swing's MVC because
 it not only de-couples Ms, Vcs and Cs, but decouples data-models, data
 loaders, etc.   The MVC architecture has some problems with its
 generic implementation, but it's pretty good overall.

 - We think the components look nice, but then... we pretty much have
 customized everything.   Our app is highly stylized.
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-02-04 Thread maku

And there is also a book ((http://www.apress.com/book/view/
9781430219408) which should be available soon.

On Feb 4, 9:57 am, Miles T. dupont.nico...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just a word about documentation. It is true that the documentation is
 far from complete but it is not true that it is non-existent.
 The wiki is in work in progress 
 :http://extjs.com/learn/Learn_About_the_Ext_GWT_Library
 and there is also a small help centerhttp://extjs.com/helpcenter/index.jsp

 On 31 jan, 05:42, DaBlick dabl...@gmail.com wrote:

  We used GWT-Ext and tossed it in favor of Ext-GWT (often referred to
  as GXT).

  I've said this before in this forum so I'll just be brief here as you
  can search the forum for more details.

  - It's been said MANY times so you know it's true:  It wouldn't be
  accurate to say the documentation is poor.  It'd be more accurate to
  say that the documentation is NON-EXISTENT and this is a SERIOUS
  SERIOUS issue you must consider before choosing it.   You are,
  apparently, expected to learn the library by reverse-engineering the
  examples.   This means your project will have a potentially steep ramp-
  up time.

  - It's easy to find bugs in Ext-GWT because it's basically been a one-
  man project for most of its life. However...

  - Reported bugs tend to get fixed VERY quickly and if you are
  licensed, you can pick up the fix from the SVN as soon as they are
  fixed.

  - Ext-GWT has what I consider to be a rather nice MVC architecture
  built into it.   It really goes well beyond, say, Swing's MVC because
  it not only de-couples Ms, Vcs and Cs, but decouples data-models, data
  loaders, etc.   The MVC architecture has some problems with its
  generic implementation, but it's pretty good overall.

  - We think the components look nice, but then... we pretty much have
  customized everything.   Our app is highly stylized.
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-02-04 Thread Arthur Kalmenson

Hi getaceres,

If you're looking for a sortable grid, check out the ScrollTable in
the gwt-incubator:
http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit-incubator/. If you're
loading a lot of data into the ScrollTable, you might want to use the
BulkTableRenderer:
http://code.google.com/docreader/#p=google-web-toolkit-incubators=google-web-toolkit-incubatort=BulkTableRenderers

--
Arthur Kalmenson



On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:51 AM, getaceres getace...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's not only about the look, it's about the lack of a decent default
 widget set in GWT.
 We are starting a project now and in the very first phase we know that
 we need a sortable grid that could be very large, so what must we do?
 Must we implement a data model and a paging table or a big grid with
 caching or must we use one of Ext-GWT, IT Mill, or SmartGWT? Should I
 reinvent the wheel when there are three different toolkits with the
 widgets that I need?

 On Feb 4, 9:57 am, Miles T. dupont.nico...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just a word about documentation. It is true that the documentation is
 far from complete but it is not true that it is non-existent.
 The wiki is in work in progress 
 :http://extjs.com/learn/Learn_About_the_Ext_GWT_Library
 and there is also a small help centerhttp://extjs.com/helpcenter/index.jsp

 On 31 jan, 05:42, DaBlick dabl...@gmail.com wrote:

  We used GWT-Ext and tossed it in favor of Ext-GWT (often referred to
  as GXT).

  I've said this before in this forum so I'll just be brief here as you
  can search the forum for more details.

  - It's been said MANY times so you know it's true:  It wouldn't be
  accurate to say the documentation is poor.  It'd be more accurate to
  say that the documentation is NON-EXISTENT and this is a SERIOUS
  SERIOUS issue you must consider before choosing it.   You are,
  apparently, expected to learn the library by reverse-engineering the
  examples.   This means your project will have a potentially steep ramp-
  up time.

  - It's easy to find bugs in Ext-GWT because it's basically been a one-
  man project for most of its life. However...

  - Reported bugs tend to get fixed VERY quickly and if you are
  licensed, you can pick up the fix from the SVN as soon as they are
  fixed.

  - Ext-GWT has what I consider to be a rather nice MVC architecture
  built into it.   It really goes well beyond, say, Swing's MVC because
  it not only de-couples Ms, Vcs and Cs, but decouples data-models, data
  loaders, etc.   The MVC architecture has some problems with its
  generic implementation, but it's pretty good overall.

  - We think the components look nice, but then... we pretty much have
  customized everything.   Our app is highly stylized.

 


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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-02-04 Thread getaceres

It's not only about the look, it's about the lack of a decent default
widget set in GWT.
We are starting a project now and in the very first phase we know that
we need a sortable grid that could be very large, so what must we do?
Must we implement a data model and a paging table or a big grid with
caching or must we use one of Ext-GWT, IT Mill, or SmartGWT? Should I
reinvent the wheel when there are three different toolkits with the
widgets that I need?

On Feb 4, 9:57 am, Miles T. dupont.nico...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just a word about documentation. It is true that the documentation is
 far from complete but it is not true that it is non-existent.
 The wiki is in work in progress 
 :http://extjs.com/learn/Learn_About_the_Ext_GWT_Library
 and there is also a small help centerhttp://extjs.com/helpcenter/index.jsp

 On 31 jan, 05:42, DaBlick dabl...@gmail.com wrote:

  We used GWT-Ext and tossed it in favor of Ext-GWT (often referred to
  as GXT).

  I've said this before in this forum so I'll just be brief here as you
  can search the forum for more details.

  - It's been said MANY times so you know it's true:  It wouldn't be
  accurate to say the documentation is poor.  It'd be more accurate to
  say that the documentation is NON-EXISTENT and this is a SERIOUS
  SERIOUS issue you must consider before choosing it.   You are,
  apparently, expected to learn the library by reverse-engineering the
  examples.   This means your project will have a potentially steep ramp-
  up time.

  - It's easy to find bugs in Ext-GWT because it's basically been a one-
  man project for most of its life. However...

  - Reported bugs tend to get fixed VERY quickly and if you are
  licensed, you can pick up the fix from the SVN as soon as they are
  fixed.

  - Ext-GWT has what I consider to be a rather nice MVC architecture
  built into it.   It really goes well beyond, say, Swing's MVC because
  it not only de-couples Ms, Vcs and Cs, but decouples data-models, data
  loaders, etc.   The MVC architecture has some problems with its
  generic implementation, but it's pretty good overall.

  - We think the components look nice, but then... we pretty much have
  customized everything.   Our app is highly stylized.

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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-02-04 Thread getaceres

Thanks, I didn't know about the Incubator widgets. It seems very
complete and interesting but I have a question about it:
What's the state of stability and feature completeness of the widgets
in Incubator? I mean, are they ready to be used in real applications?

On Feb 4, 3:58 pm, Arthur Kalmenson arthur.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi getaceres,

 If you're looking for a sortable grid, check out the ScrollTable in
 the gwt-incubator:http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit-incubator/. If 
 you're
 loading a lot of data into the ScrollTable, you might want to use the
 BulkTableRenderer:http://code.google.com/docreader/#p=google-web-toolkit-incubators=go...

 --
 Arthur Kalmenson

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:51 AM, getaceres getace...@gmail.com wrote:

  It's not only about the look, it's about the lack of a decent default
  widget set in GWT.
  We are starting a project now and in the very first phase we know that
  we need a sortable grid that could be very large, so what must we do?
  Must we implement a data model and a paging table or a big grid with
  caching or must we use one of Ext-GWT, IT Mill, or SmartGWT? Should I
  reinvent the wheel when there are three different toolkits with the
  widgets that I need?

  On Feb 4, 9:57 am, Miles T. dupont.nico...@gmail.com wrote:
  Just a word about documentation. It is true that the documentation is
  far from complete but it is not true that it is non-existent.
  The wiki is in work in progress 
  :http://extjs.com/learn/Learn_About_the_Ext_GWT_Library
  and there is also a small help centerhttp://extjs.com/helpcenter/index.jsp

  On 31 jan, 05:42, DaBlick dabl...@gmail.com wrote:

   We used GWT-Ext and tossed it in favor of Ext-GWT (often referred to
   as GXT).

   I've said this before in this forum so I'll just be brief here as you
   can search the forum for more details.

   - It's been said MANY times so you know it's true:  It wouldn't be
   accurate to say the documentation is poor.  It'd be more accurate to
   say that the documentation is NON-EXISTENT and this is a SERIOUS
   SERIOUS issue you must consider before choosing it.   You are,
   apparently, expected to learn the library by reverse-engineering the
   examples.   This means your project will have a potentially steep ramp-
   up time.

   - It's easy to find bugs in Ext-GWT because it's basically been a one-
   man project for most of its life. However...

   - Reported bugs tend to get fixed VERY quickly and if you are
   licensed, you can pick up the fix from the SVN as soon as they are
   fixed.

   - Ext-GWT has what I consider to be a rather nice MVC architecture
   built into it.   It really goes well beyond, say, Swing's MVC because
   it not only de-couples Ms, Vcs and Cs, but decouples data-models, data
   loaders, etc.   The MVC architecture has some problems with its
   generic implementation, but it's pretty good overall.

   - We think the components look nice, but then... we pretty much have
   customized everything.   Our app is highly stylized.
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-02-04 Thread Isaac Truett

The incubator is much less stable than the main GWT widget library.
Widgets in the incubator are still evolving and the API is subject to
change. The incubator is not recommended for production use. Widgets
that graduate to the main library are considered production ready (see
DatePicker for an example of a graduate in the upcoming GWT 1.6).

I've found significant time savings in using widgets from the
incubator in my own work. I've also had to refactor when something in
the incubator changes and I want to upgrade. Whenever possible I try
to wrap an incubator widget in a widget of my own to reduce direct
coupling of unstable incubator API to my application code.

There is the intention to implement some means of informing developers
of the relative stability of incubator widgets, but this is still a
work in progress.


On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:24 PM, getaceres getace...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, I didn't know about the Incubator widgets. It seems very
 complete and interesting but I have a question about it:
 What's the state of stability and feature completeness of the widgets
 in Incubator? I mean, are they ready to be used in real applications?

 On Feb 4, 3:58 pm, Arthur Kalmenson arthur.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi getaceres,

 If you're looking for a sortable grid, check out the ScrollTable in
 the gwt-incubator:http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit-incubator/. If 
 you're
 loading a lot of data into the ScrollTable, you might want to use the
 BulkTableRenderer:http://code.google.com/docreader/#p=google-web-toolkit-incubators=go...

 --
 Arthur Kalmenson

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:51 AM, getaceres getace...@gmail.com wrote:

  It's not only about the look, it's about the lack of a decent default
  widget set in GWT.
  We are starting a project now and in the very first phase we know that
  we need a sortable grid that could be very large, so what must we do?
  Must we implement a data model and a paging table or a big grid with
  caching or must we use one of Ext-GWT, IT Mill, or SmartGWT? Should I
  reinvent the wheel when there are three different toolkits with the
  widgets that I need?

  On Feb 4, 9:57 am, Miles T. dupont.nico...@gmail.com wrote:
  Just a word about documentation. It is true that the documentation is
  far from complete but it is not true that it is non-existent.
  The wiki is in work in progress 
  :http://extjs.com/learn/Learn_About_the_Ext_GWT_Library
  and there is also a small help centerhttp://extjs.com/helpcenter/index.jsp

  On 31 jan, 05:42, DaBlick dabl...@gmail.com wrote:

   We used GWT-Ext and tossed it in favor of Ext-GWT (often referred to
   as GXT).

   I've said this before in this forum so I'll just be brief here as you
   can search the forum for more details.

   - It's been said MANY times so you know it's true:  It wouldn't be
   accurate to say the documentation is poor.  It'd be more accurate to
   say that the documentation is NON-EXISTENT and this is a SERIOUS
   SERIOUS issue you must consider before choosing it.   You are,
   apparently, expected to learn the library by reverse-engineering the
   examples.   This means your project will have a potentially steep ramp-
   up time.

   - It's easy to find bugs in Ext-GWT because it's basically been a one-
   man project for most of its life. However...

   - Reported bugs tend to get fixed VERY quickly and if you are
   licensed, you can pick up the fix from the SVN as soon as they are
   fixed.

   - Ext-GWT has what I consider to be a rather nice MVC architecture
   built into it.   It really goes well beyond, say, Swing's MVC because
   it not only de-couples Ms, Vcs and Cs, but decouples data-models, data
   loaders, etc.   The MVC architecture has some problems with its
   generic implementation, but it's pretty good overall.

   - We think the components look nice, but then... we pretty much have
   customized everything.   Our app is highly stylized.
 


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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-02-04 Thread Arthur Kalmenson

I think it's also important to point out that while the GWT team says
the incubator should not be used in production, it's still far more
stable, better test and put together then most of the third party
libraries available for GWT. You also have the added benefit that some
of them might make it to the core. We use ScrollTable in production
and are looking into using CssResource in the future.

--
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On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Isaac Truett itru...@gmail.com wrote:

 The incubator is much less stable than the main GWT widget library.
 Widgets in the incubator are still evolving and the API is subject to
 change. The incubator is not recommended for production use. Widgets
 that graduate to the main library are considered production ready (see
 DatePicker for an example of a graduate in the upcoming GWT 1.6).

 I've found significant time savings in using widgets from the
 incubator in my own work. I've also had to refactor when something in
 the incubator changes and I want to upgrade. Whenever possible I try
 to wrap an incubator widget in a widget of my own to reduce direct
 coupling of unstable incubator API to my application code.

 There is the intention to implement some means of informing developers
 of the relative stability of incubator widgets, but this is still a
 work in progress.


 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:24 PM, getaceres getace...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, I didn't know about the Incubator widgets. It seems very
 complete and interesting but I have a question about it:
 What's the state of stability and feature completeness of the widgets
 in Incubator? I mean, are they ready to be used in real applications?

 On Feb 4, 3:58 pm, Arthur Kalmenson arthur.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi getaceres,

 If you're looking for a sortable grid, check out the ScrollTable in
 the gwt-incubator:http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit-incubator/. 
 If you're
 loading a lot of data into the ScrollTable, you might want to use the
 BulkTableRenderer:http://code.google.com/docreader/#p=google-web-toolkit-incubators=go...

 --
 Arthur Kalmenson

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:51 AM, getaceres getace...@gmail.com wrote:

  It's not only about the look, it's about the lack of a decent default
  widget set in GWT.
  We are starting a project now and in the very first phase we know that
  we need a sortable grid that could be very large, so what must we do?
  Must we implement a data model and a paging table or a big grid with
  caching or must we use one of Ext-GWT, IT Mill, or SmartGWT? Should I
  reinvent the wheel when there are three different toolkits with the
  widgets that I need?

  On Feb 4, 9:57 am, Miles T. dupont.nico...@gmail.com wrote:
  Just a word about documentation. It is true that the documentation is
  far from complete but it is not true that it is non-existent.
  The wiki is in work in progress 
  :http://extjs.com/learn/Learn_About_the_Ext_GWT_Library
  and there is also a small help 
  centerhttp://extjs.com/helpcenter/index.jsp

  On 31 jan, 05:42, DaBlick dabl...@gmail.com wrote:

   We used GWT-Ext and tossed it in favor of Ext-GWT (often referred to
   as GXT).

   I've said this before in this forum so I'll just be brief here as you
   can search the forum for more details.

   - It's been said MANY times so you know it's true:  It wouldn't be
   accurate to say the documentation is poor.  It'd be more accurate to
   say that the documentation is NON-EXISTENT and this is a SERIOUS
   SERIOUS issue you must consider before choosing it.   You are,
   apparently, expected to learn the library by reverse-engineering the
   examples.   This means your project will have a potentially steep ramp-
   up time.

   - It's easy to find bugs in Ext-GWT because it's basically been a one-
   man project for most of its life. However...

   - Reported bugs tend to get fixed VERY quickly and if you are
   licensed, you can pick up the fix from the SVN as soon as they are
   fixed.

   - Ext-GWT has what I consider to be a rather nice MVC architecture
   built into it.   It really goes well beyond, say, Swing's MVC because
   it not only de-couples Ms, Vcs and Cs, but decouples data-models, data
   loaders, etc.   The MVC architecture has some problems with its
   generic implementation, but it's pretty good overall.

   - We think the components look nice, but then... we pretty much have
   customized everything.   Our app is highly stylized.
 


 


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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-01-30 Thread DaBlick

We used GWT-Ext and tossed it in favor of Ext-GWT (often referred to
as GXT).

I've said this before in this forum so I'll just be brief here as you
can search the forum for more details.

- It's been said MANY times so you know it's true:  It wouldn't be
accurate to say the documentation is poor.  It'd be more accurate to
say that the documentation is NON-EXISTENT and this is a SERIOUS
SERIOUS issue you must consider before choosing it.   You are,
apparently, expected to learn the library by reverse-engineering the
examples.   This means your project will have a potentially steep ramp-
up time.

- It's easy to find bugs in Ext-GWT because it's basically been a one-
man project for most of its life. However...

- Reported bugs tend to get fixed VERY quickly and if you are
licensed, you can pick up the fix from the SVN as soon as they are
fixed.

- Ext-GWT has what I consider to be a rather nice MVC architecture
built into it.   It really goes well beyond, say, Swing's MVC because
it not only de-couples Ms, Vcs and Cs, but decouples data-models, data
loaders, etc.   The MVC architecture has some problems with its
generic implementation, but it's pretty good overall.

- We think the components look nice, but then... we pretty much have
customized everything.   Our app is highly stylized.
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-01-29 Thread hbatista

Not to resurrect the thread, but I feel I need to add some input to
this, as I've been using Gwt-Ext for over a year now.
I've been using it in a big and complex application, and the results
have been great.
Now, about some points people have raised:
-Slowness: if you design your application properly and use the right
widgets for each job, you'll have no problems. Our application runs
like a charm, and it deals with BIG datasets. But yes, you do need to
code thinking about performance, as is the case with ANY other
application if you deal with a lot of data.
-Bugs: I've come across a couple, but nothing serious, and you do have
the source, so you can FIX them (I've done it when needed). The
detractors please tell me of a piece of software that doesn't have a
bug... Our app has always been completely stable, no problems there,
so I don't know what some people here are talking about...
-Maintainability/extensibility: you have the source, so you can adapt
and extend whatever widget you want (done that too).

If you think you can develop the same kind of functionality with just
GWT / CSS to match one of these libraries in a decent amount of time,
you are just insane, or just are so inexperienced you cannot
understand how much work you have ahead of you.
It saved us a huge (I mean HUGE) amount of time, and I recommend it.
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-12-02 Thread Miles T.

I understand, my company also didn't want to work with GPL (although I
wanted to) :-p
So they purchased the ~300$ commercial license for me.

On 1 déc, 20:57, TedM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah but EXT-GWT is a no go for my company because of the license

 On Dec 1, 11:10 am, Miles T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On 1 déc, 14:41, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   quick, get it out the door, I don't care that there
   aren't any test cases

  Actually, if you look into their SVN repository, you'll see that there
  are (only) a few test cases in GWT-Ext. In fact, GWT-Ext is wrapping
  ExtJS and only contains a thin GWT layer, maybe it explains why there
  are a few test cases. However, I agree that a good code coverage is a
  sign of quality.
  On the other side, there are A LOT of test cases in Ext GWT.

   --
   Arthur Kalmenson

   On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Niklas Derouche [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

I disagree, you don't need any exotic graphic needs to use GWT. If you
want a good, functional and quick web application, you use GWT. If you
want a hard to maintain, buggy and poorly (if at all) tested, slow as
a snail but a nice shiny turd of a web application, you use Ext GWT.

So let me see if I understod you correctly; you don't like Ext GWT?
Seriously,
not liking stuff is fine. It's more than fine as far as I am concerned. 
I
wish you
all the best in your future endeavours and sometime down the line when 
you
have
spent more than a year or two in the workplace post your degree you may 
find
that you start making choices based on pragmatic weighing of pros and 
cons
and where your design ideals may take the backseat to cost and
time-to-market
factors. Your mileage will vary.
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-12-01 Thread Arthur Kalmenson

That's fine, but you also need to consider future maintenance of your
application. If your application is going to have any substantial life
time and going to have to be extended and maintained, you're going to
have a pretty hard time with gwt ext or ext gwt. However, I know the
mentality of quick, get it out the door, I don't care that there
aren't any test cases is still very prevalent. If that's the type of
work environment one is in, they have little choice.

--
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On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Niklas Derouche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 I disagree, you don't need any exotic graphic needs to use GWT. If you
 want a good, functional and quick web application, you use GWT. If you
 want a hard to maintain, buggy and poorly (if at all) tested, slow as
 a snail but a nice shiny turd of a web application, you use Ext GWT.

 So let me see if I understod you correctly; you don't like Ext GWT?
 Seriously,
 not liking stuff is fine. It's more than fine as far as I am concerned. I
 wish you
 all the best in your future endeavours and sometime down the line when you
 have
 spent more than a year or two in the workplace post your degree you may find
 that you start making choices based on pragmatic weighing of pros and cons
 and where your design ideals may take the backseat to cost and
 time-to-market
 factors. Your mileage will vary.
 n.
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-12-01 Thread Miles T.

On 1 déc, 14:41, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 quick, get it out the door, I don't care that there
 aren't any test cases

Actually, if you look into their SVN repository, you'll see that there
are (only) a few test cases in GWT-Ext. In fact, GWT-Ext is wrapping
ExtJS and only contains a thin GWT layer, maybe it explains why there
are a few test cases. However, I agree that a good code coverage is a
sign of quality.
On the other side, there are A LOT of test cases in Ext GWT.


 --
 Arthur Kalmenson

 On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Niklas Derouche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:

  I disagree, you don't need any exotic graphic needs to use GWT. If you
  want a good, functional and quick web application, you use GWT. If you
  want a hard to maintain, buggy and poorly (if at all) tested, slow as
  a snail but a nice shiny turd of a web application, you use Ext GWT.

  So let me see if I understod you correctly; you don't like Ext GWT?
  Seriously,
  not liking stuff is fine. It's more than fine as far as I am concerned. I
  wish you
  all the best in your future endeavours and sometime down the line when you
  have
  spent more than a year or two in the workplace post your degree you may find
  that you start making choices based on pragmatic weighing of pros and cons
  and where your design ideals may take the backseat to cost and
  time-to-market
  factors. Your mileage will vary.
  n.
  --
  
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-12-01 Thread TedM

Yeah but EXT-GWT is a no go for my company because of the license

On Dec 1, 11:10 am, Miles T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 1 déc, 14:41, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  quick, get it out the door, I don't care that there
  aren't any test cases

 Actually, if you look into their SVN repository, you'll see that there
 are (only) a few test cases in GWT-Ext. In fact, GWT-Ext is wrapping
 ExtJS and only contains a thin GWT layer, maybe it explains why there
 are a few test cases. However, I agree that a good code coverage is a
 sign of quality.
 On the other side, there are A LOT of test cases in Ext GWT.

  --
  Arthur Kalmenson

  On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Niklas Derouche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:

   I disagree, you don't need any exotic graphic needs to use GWT. If you
   want a good, functional and quick web application, you use GWT. If you
   want a hard to maintain, buggy and poorly (if at all) tested, slow as
   a snail but a nice shiny turd of a web application, you use Ext GWT.

   So let me see if I understod you correctly; you don't like Ext GWT?
   Seriously,
   not liking stuff is fine. It's more than fine as far as I am concerned. I
   wish you
   all the best in your future endeavours and sometime down the line when you
   have
   spent more than a year or two in the workplace post your degree you may 
   find
   that you start making choices based on pragmatic weighing of pros and cons
   and where your design ideals may take the backseat to cost and
   time-to-market
   factors. Your mileage will vary.
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   --
   
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-27 Thread Arthur Kalmenson

 In my own experience, I see that these projects are good and not only
 shiny :-p I agree that they are more complex to use than vanilla
 GWT. But actually, I think this is the drawback of a high-level, Swing/
 SWT-like API. I think you have more flexibility with GWT but it is
 easier to write robust and structured code with Ext GWT.

Actually it's the complete lack of flexibility. You have to work with
Ext GWT's constraints, and work around it's buggy code and crappy
event model.

 Well, actually I don't think price is a problem. Both products (GWT
 Designer and Ext GWT) are cheaper than weekly wage for a developer
 (and even cheaper than a DAILY wage for some engineers). On the other
 hand, spending days to write CSS themes, integrating incubator or
 custom widgets are not really cheap.

What about if you spend WEEKS trying to figure out why Ext GWT is
formatting your widgets in this way, and not another. Or trying to
figure out why it's so deathly slow that hosted mode barely works. I
understand that in smaller shops the programmer ends up doing the CSS
(I do it myself), but GWT already comes with themes in 1.5, what's
wrong with those? Creating custom widgets isn't really very hard, and
at least you can be sure that what you write will be tested (not sure
about Ext GWT). Furthermore, a lot of the incubator stuff is pretty
high quality and is written by the GWT staff, so you know it's tested
well and of a much higher quality standard then Ext GWT will ever
achieve.

 I think it depends on your needs. If you have exotic graphical needs
 or if you want a hardly customized design or if you don't want to hear
 about GPL or LGPL product, vanilla GWT is sufficient for you. If
 not, you should hardly think about the choice.

I disagree, you don't need any exotic graphic needs to use GWT. If you
want a good, functional and quick web application, you use GWT. If you
want a hard to maintain, buggy and poorly (if at all) tested, slow as
a snail but a nice shiny turd of a web application, you use Ext GWT.

--
Arthur Kalmenson



On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Miles T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 22 nov, 16:29, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I disagree with Nicolas. We experimented with gwt-ext on one of our
 projects and had to backtrack because it was so slow, had far too many
 bugs, and was just a pain to work with. It even prevented you from
 using hosted mode because it was so slow!!

 Try last versions. Both libraries (Ext GWT and GWT-Ext) evolve very
 quickly.


 If you watch this mailing list at all, you'll find that most of the
 problems that people are having are related to some Ext product. You
 get forced into their retarded even model, they're overly complex
 widgets and sample code that doesn't work as shown in the showcase.
 Just because a turd is made shiny, does not mean it's good.

 In my own experience, I see that these projects are good and not only
 shiny :-p I agree that they are more complex to use than vanilla
 GWT. But actually, I think this is the drawback of a high-level, Swing/
 SWT-like API. I think you have more flexibility with GWT but it is
 easier to write robust and structured code with Ext GWT.

 You can use the incubator and regular GWT to get anything you need
 done. GWT 1.5 already comes with default CSS themes, and that should
 be enough to get you off the ground. If you want better themes, get a
 graphics designer. They're very cheap and will probably run you less
 then buying a couple ExtGWT licenses.

 Well, actually I don't think price is a problem. Both products (GWT
 Designer and Ext GWT) are cheaper than weekly wage for a developer
 (and even cheaper than a DAILY wage for some engineers). On the other
 hand, spending days to write CSS themes, integrating incubator or
 custom widgets are not really cheap.
 I think it depends on your needs. If you have exotic graphical needs
 or if you want a hardly customized design or if you don't want to hear
 about GPL or LGPL product, vanilla GWT is sufficient for you. If
 not, you should hardly think about the choice.

 IMHO


 --
 Arthur Kalmenson

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Nicolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi all,

  I don't agree with Arthur. You save a lot of time using one of these
  libraries. In both cases you don't have to care about CSS and you have
  much more widgets than vanilla GWT. On the other side, both
  libraries are not as mature as GWT, so you will find isolated issues.
  Obviously, if you want a fully customized design, maybe vanilla GWT
  is better.

  I have tested both libraries and choose to use Ext GWT. I use it since
  April and it makes me saving a lot of time. Here is the result of my
  comparison :
  Ext GWT  (the ExtJS GWT library) :
  ++ this is a fully native GWT library (it is not wrapping JS code and
  therefore fully benefits from GWT compiler optimizations and debugging
  features)
  + the library is supported by ExtJS company, which is already a
  popular

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-27 Thread Niklas Derouche
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 I disagree, you don't need any exotic graphic needs to use GWT. If you
 want a good, functional and quick web application, you use GWT. If you
 want a hard to maintain, buggy and poorly (if at all) tested, slow as
 a snail but a nice shiny turd of a web application, you use Ext GWT.


So let me see if I understod you correctly; you don't like Ext GWT?
Seriously,
not liking stuff is fine. It's more than fine as far as I am concerned. I
wish you
all the best in your future endeavours and sometime down the line when you
have
spent more than a year or two in the workplace post your degree you may find
that you start making choices based on pragmatic weighing of pros and cons
and where your design ideals may take the backseat to cost and
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factors. Your mileage will vary.

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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-27 Thread TedM

I agree with you Arthur on the point that I wish we could use 100% GWT
but the GWT Widget set is lacking in richness.

I really wish this will be addresses.

Examples
Tab panel functionality
Sortable Grid/Table
Grouping Grid/Table
Calendar data fields
Popup dialogs with configurable top right buttons

I agree all these widgets can be done with some work and using the
core GWT code.  But what makes me sad is no one has done it and
published it.  Plus, in my work and I believe most people's work place
there is no time to reinvent the wheel.  I'm not going to get my
supervisor to approve time to develop a sortable table.

Also I've studied the incubator widgets and found them also do be
lacking to GWT-EXT and EXT-GWT.

I've recently requested a sponsor in the incubator project to see if I
can help GWT move toward a richer widget set goal.  I hope I'll be
able to help.








On Nov 27, 8:52 am, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In my own experience, I see that these projects are good and not only
  shiny :-p I agree that they are more complex to use than vanilla
  GWT. But actually, I think this is the drawback of a high-level, Swing/
  SWT-like API. I think you have more flexibility with GWT but it is
  easier to write robust and structured code with Ext GWT.

 Actually it's the complete lack of flexibility. You have to work with
 Ext GWT's constraints, and work around it's buggy code and crappy
 event model.

  Well, actually I don't think price is a problem. Both products (GWT
  Designer and Ext GWT) are cheaper than weekly wage for a developer
  (and even cheaper than a DAILY wage for some engineers). On the other
  hand, spending days to write CSS themes, integrating incubator or
  custom widgets are not really cheap.

 What about if you spend WEEKS trying to figure out why Ext GWT is
 formatting your widgets in this way, and not another. Or trying to
 figure out why it's so deathly slow that hosted mode barely works. I
 understand that in smaller shops the programmer ends up doing the CSS
 (I do it myself), but GWT already comes with themes in 1.5, what's
 wrong with those? Creating custom widgets isn't really very hard, and
 at least you can be sure that what you write will be tested (not sure
 about Ext GWT). Furthermore, a lot of the incubator stuff is pretty
 high quality and is written by the GWT staff, so you know it's tested
 well and of a much higher quality standard then Ext GWT will ever
 achieve.

  I think it depends on your needs. If you have exotic graphical needs
  or if you want a hardly customized design or if you don't want to hear
  about GPL or LGPL product, vanilla GWT is sufficient for you. If
  not, you should hardly think about the choice.

 I disagree, you don't need any exotic graphic needs to use GWT. If you
 want a good, functional and quick web application, you use GWT. If you
 want a hard to maintain, buggy and poorly (if at all) tested, slow as
 a snail but a nice shiny turd of a web application, you use Ext GWT.

 --
 Arthur Kalmenson

 On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Miles T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On 22 nov, 16:29, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I disagree with Nicolas. We experimented with gwt-ext on one of our
  projects and had to backtrack because it was so slow, had far too many
  bugs, and was just a pain to work with. It even prevented you from
  using hosted mode because it was so slow!!

  Try last versions. Both libraries (Ext GWT and GWT-Ext) evolve very
  quickly.

  If you watch this mailing list at all, you'll find that most of the
  problems that people are having are related to some Ext product. You
  get forced into their retarded even model, they're overly complex
  widgets and sample code that doesn't work as shown in the showcase.
  Just because a turd is made shiny, does not mean it's good.

  In my own experience, I see that these projects are good and not only
  shiny :-p I agree that they are more complex to use than vanilla
  GWT. But actually, I think this is the drawback of a high-level, Swing/
  SWT-like API. I think you have more flexibility with GWT but it is
  easier to write robust and structured code with Ext GWT.

  You can use the incubator and regular GWT to get anything you need
  done. GWT 1.5 already comes with default CSS themes, and that should
  be enough to get you off the ground. If you want better themes, get a
  graphics designer. They're very cheap and will probably run you less
  then buying a couple ExtGWT licenses.

  Well, actually I don't think price is a problem. Both products (GWT
  Designer and Ext GWT) are cheaper than weekly wage for a developer
  (and even cheaper than a DAILY wage for some engineers). On the other
  hand, spending days to write CSS themes, integrating incubator or
  custom widgets are not really cheap.
  I think it depends on your needs. If you have exotic graphical needs
  or if you want a hardly customized design or if you don't want to hear
  about GPL or LGPL

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-25 Thread Miles T.

On 22 nov, 16:29, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I disagree with Nicolas. We experimented with gwt-ext on one of our
 projects and had to backtrack because it was so slow, had far too many
 bugs, and was just a pain to work with. It even prevented you from
 using hosted mode because it was so slow!!

Try last versions. Both libraries (Ext GWT and GWT-Ext) evolve very
quickly.


 If you watch this mailing list at all, you'll find that most of the
 problems that people are having are related to some Ext product. You
 get forced into their retarded even model, they're overly complex
 widgets and sample code that doesn't work as shown in the showcase.
 Just because a turd is made shiny, does not mean it's good.

In my own experience, I see that these projects are good and not only
shiny :-p I agree that they are more complex to use than vanilla
GWT. But actually, I think this is the drawback of a high-level, Swing/
SWT-like API. I think you have more flexibility with GWT but it is
easier to write robust and structured code with Ext GWT.

 You can use the incubator and regular GWT to get anything you need
 done. GWT 1.5 already comes with default CSS themes, and that should
 be enough to get you off the ground. If you want better themes, get a
 graphics designer. They're very cheap and will probably run you less
 then buying a couple ExtGWT licenses.

Well, actually I don't think price is a problem. Both products (GWT
Designer and Ext GWT) are cheaper than weekly wage for a developer
(and even cheaper than a DAILY wage for some engineers). On the other
hand, spending days to write CSS themes, integrating incubator or
custom widgets are not really cheap.
I think it depends on your needs. If you have exotic graphical needs
or if you want a hardly customized design or if you don't want to hear
about GPL or LGPL product, vanilla GWT is sufficient for you. If
not, you should hardly think about the choice.

IMHO


 --
 Arthur Kalmenson

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Nicolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi all,

  I don't agree with Arthur. You save a lot of time using one of these
  libraries. In both cases you don't have to care about CSS and you have
  much more widgets than vanilla GWT. On the other side, both
  libraries are not as mature as GWT, so you will find isolated issues.
  Obviously, if you want a fully customized design, maybe vanilla GWT
  is better.

  I have tested both libraries and choose to use Ext GWT. I use it since
  April and it makes me saving a lot of time. Here is the result of my
  comparison :
  Ext GWT  (the ExtJS GWT library) :
  ++ this is a fully native GWT library (it is not wrapping JS code and
  therefore fully benefits from GWT compiler optimizations and debugging
  features)
  + the library is supported by ExtJS company, which is already a
  popular and recognized javascript framework
  + MVC layer
  - less features for now
  - if you want to distribute your product and don't want to do it under
  GPL license you will have to buy a commercial license (289$ for one
  developer)

  GWT-Ext :
  + more features (especially experimental Yahoo UI Charts integration)
  - This is a library wrapping ExtJS (Javascript code). Therefore
  debugging is limited
  - no support for ExtJS  2.0.2
  - no GWT RPC integration (except if you buy the commercial extension
  GWT-Ext Plus)

  Regards Nicolas

  On 6 nov, 14:41, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This is a common theme, and as I said above, I highly recommend
  keeping far away from ext gwt or gwt ext. You can get the same
  shininess with some nice CSS.

  --
  Arthur Kalmenson

  On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:08 AM, zebulon303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I am trying to use ext-gwt for a few days, and I get crazy because of
   the really poor documentation available, you only have the code to
   understand what you are doing, and not enough general guidelines. I
   don't know how it is for GWT ext, but I will definitely have a look.

   I am really new with GWT in general, maybe that's why I need more
   documentation. I was trying to figure out how to add a delete button
   to the EditorGrid, or just access the current selected item of the
   grid. I find it really difficult to get to this simple information.
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-22 Thread Arthur Kalmenson

I disagree with Nicolas. We experimented with gwt-ext on one of our
projects and had to backtrack because it was so slow, had far too many
bugs, and was just a pain to work with. It even prevented you from
using hosted mode because it was so slow!!

If you watch this mailing list at all, you'll find that most of the
problems that people are having are related to some Ext product. You
get forced into their retarded even model, they're overly complex
widgets and sample code that doesn't work as shown in the showcase.
Just because a turd is made shiny, does not mean it's good.

You can use the incubator and regular GWT to get anything you need
done. GWT 1.5 already comes with default CSS themes, and that should
be enough to get you off the ground. If you want better themes, get a
graphics designer. They're very cheap and will probably run you less
then buying a couple ExtGWT licenses.

--
Arthur Kalmenson



On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Nicolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,

 I don't agree with Arthur. You save a lot of time using one of these
 libraries. In both cases you don't have to care about CSS and you have
 much more widgets than vanilla GWT. On the other side, both
 libraries are not as mature as GWT, so you will find isolated issues.
 Obviously, if you want a fully customized design, maybe vanilla GWT
 is better.

 I have tested both libraries and choose to use Ext GWT. I use it since
 April and it makes me saving a lot of time. Here is the result of my
 comparison :
 Ext GWT  (the ExtJS GWT library) :
 ++ this is a fully native GWT library (it is not wrapping JS code and
 therefore fully benefits from GWT compiler optimizations and debugging
 features)
 + the library is supported by ExtJS company, which is already a
 popular and recognized javascript framework
 + MVC layer
 - less features for now
 - if you want to distribute your product and don't want to do it under
 GPL license you will have to buy a commercial license (289$ for one
 developer)

 GWT-Ext :
 + more features (especially experimental Yahoo UI Charts integration)
 - This is a library wrapping ExtJS (Javascript code). Therefore
 debugging is limited
 - no support for ExtJS  2.0.2
 - no GWT RPC integration (except if you buy the commercial extension
 GWT-Ext Plus)

 Regards Nicolas


 On 6 nov, 14:41, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is a common theme, and as I said above, I highly recommend
 keeping far away from ext gwt or gwt ext. You can get the same
 shininess with some nice CSS.

 --
 Arthur Kalmenson

 On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:08 AM, zebulon303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I am trying to use ext-gwt for a few days, and I get crazy because of
  the really poor documentation available, you only have the code to
  understand what you are doing, and not enough general guidelines. I
  don't know how it is for GWT ext, but I will definitely have a look.

  I am really new with GWT in general, maybe that's why I need more
  documentation. I was trying to figure out how to add a delete button
  to the EditorGrid, or just access the current selected item of the
  grid. I find it really difficult to get to this simple information.
 


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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-20 Thread Nicolas

Hi all,

I don't agree with Arthur. You save a lot of time using one of these
libraries. In both cases you don't have to care about CSS and you have
much more widgets than vanilla GWT. On the other side, both
libraries are not as mature as GWT, so you will find isolated issues.
Obviously, if you want a fully customized design, maybe vanilla GWT
is better.

I have tested both libraries and choose to use Ext GWT. I use it since
April and it makes me saving a lot of time. Here is the result of my
comparison :
Ext GWT  (the ExtJS GWT library) :
++ this is a fully native GWT library (it is not wrapping JS code and
therefore fully benefits from GWT compiler optimizations and debugging
features)
+ the library is supported by ExtJS company, which is already a
popular and recognized javascript framework
+ MVC layer
- less features for now
- if you want to distribute your product and don't want to do it under
GPL license you will have to buy a commercial license (289$ for one
developer)

GWT-Ext :
+ more features (especially experimental Yahoo UI Charts integration)
- This is a library wrapping ExtJS (Javascript code). Therefore
debugging is limited
- no support for ExtJS  2.0.2
- no GWT RPC integration (except if you buy the commercial extension
GWT-Ext Plus)

Regards Nicolas


On 6 nov, 14:41, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is a common theme, and as I said above, I highly recommend
 keeping far away from ext gwt or gwt ext. You can get the same
 shininess with some nice CSS.

 --
 Arthur Kalmenson

 On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:08 AM, zebulon303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I am trying to use ext-gwt for a few days, and I get crazy because of
  the really poor documentation available, you only have the code to
  understand what you are doing, and not enough general guidelines. I
  don't know how it is for GWT ext, but I will definitely have a look.

  I am really new with GWT in general, maybe that's why I need more
  documentation. I was trying to figure out how to add a delete button
  to the EditorGrid, or just access the current selected item of the
  grid. I find it really difficult to get to this simple information.
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-06 Thread Arthur Kalmenson

This is a common theme, and as I said above, I highly recommend
keeping far away from ext gwt or gwt ext. You can get the same
shininess with some nice CSS.

--
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On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:08 AM, zebulon303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I am trying to use ext-gwt for a few days, and I get crazy because of
 the really poor documentation available, you only have the code to
 understand what you are doing, and not enough general guidelines. I
 don't know how it is for GWT ext, but I will definitely have a look.

 I am really new with GWT in general, maybe that's why I need more
 documentation. I was trying to figure out how to add a delete button
 to the EditorGrid, or just access the current selected item of the
 grid. I find it really difficult to get to this simple information.
 


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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-05 Thread zebulon303


I am trying to use ext-gwt for a few days, and I get crazy because of
the really poor documentation available, you only have the code to
understand what you are doing, and not enough general guidelines. I
don't know how it is for GWT ext, but I will definitely have a look.

I am really new with GWT in general, maybe that's why I need more
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grid. I find it really difficult to get to this simple information.
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-05 Thread yunhui song
I've used gwt-ext for about one month and used that for a quite complex real
world project. I've also tried to use ext-gwt.(It seems that ext-gwt support
ext2.2 but gwt-ext suport 2.0.2 and lower version).

From my current understanding, gwt-ext is very stable and has much more
features that ext-gwt.

Sammi


On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:08 AM, zebulon303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 I am trying to use ext-gwt for a few days, and I get crazy because of
 the really poor documentation available, you only have the code to
 understand what you are doing, and not enough general guidelines. I
 don't know how it is for GWT ext, but I will definitely have a look.

 I am really new with GWT in general, maybe that's why I need more
 documentation. I was trying to figure out how to add a delete button
 to the EditorGrid, or just access the current selected item of the
 grid. I find it really difficult to get to this simple information.
 


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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-29 Thread alex.d



On 29 Okt., 03:46, rlaferla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Oct 28, 3:25 am, alex.d [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Ext GWT definitely. It's nativa Java-GWT code vs. Javascript wrapper.
  Even though you have to pay for it it's worth it.

 Sounds good but what are some of the problems that one may encounter
 with GWT-Ext?
You never know until you start using it in your particular
application.

 Also, GWT-Ext has GWT-Plus to connect your backend
 database objects to the GWT-Ext widget's store (e.g. GridPanel).  What
 do you use for Ext GWT?
Haven't heared of such binding in Ext-GWT yet.

 BTW - The names are really confusing.  I expect a lawsuit will force a
 name change at some point.
Actually - Ext-GWT was renamed to GXT, but nobody seemes to use it :(
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-29 Thread maku


This is a good advice when you have much time and the expertise to
develop nice looking widgets.

But in reality this is not the case.

From my point of view a small team is not able to develop something
which is as good as ExtGwt (aka GXT).
(E.g. a powerful grid component)

We took GXT to develop our app.
In general we had no huge problems to solve until now (at least in
context with GXT)

Regards,
Martin


On Oct 28, 1:55 pm, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would say go with neither. If you look at the group, you'll find
 that there are endless problems with these libraries. They're shoddy,
 poorly put together, slow and nowhere near the level of quality that
 you come to expect from GWT. The library is made by Javascript
 developers who have little to no Java knowledge. If you want a well
 test, well designed toolkit, stick with vanilla GWT and make widgets
 yourself.

 Regards,
 --
 Arthur Kalmenson

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Suri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Not sure if there is a thread ever discussed on this. If so, I'd
  appreciate help in locating it. Tried a search and it decided to
  exclude the gwt part and search only for ext which isn't much help.
  Anyway, for all the people using either of these, I figure it might be
  good to get some feedback on the drawbacks and strengths of each and
  have something helpful for everyone like me trying to decide which is
  a good fit. Any ideas? Sorry if I seem abstract, I just thought the
  more general the better.

  Thanks
  Suri
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-29 Thread rakesh wagh

I would agree with Arthur Kalmenson .
And that is the reason why we used vanilla gwt over ext.

you will miss that blazing performance in ext libs. Do not get fooled
with attractive showcase.

With that said, from look and feel + user experience perspective, ext
is probably the best and complete library out there.

If you are a smart developer you will go with gwt. If you are a dumb
manager, u will go with ext

Rakesh Wagh

On Oct 29, 5:45 pm, sankar.gorthi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://gwt-ext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12p=10318sid=c4b4b0a204e38...

 On Oct 29, 1:55 am, maku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  This is a good advice when you have much time and the expertise to
  develop nice looking widgets.

  But in reality this is not the case.

  From my point of view a small team is not able to develop something
  which is as good as ExtGwt (aka GXT).
  (E.g. a powerful grid component)

  We took GXT to develop our app.
  In general we had no huge problems to solve until now (at least in
  context with GXT)

  Regards,
  Martin

  On Oct 28, 1:55 pm, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I would say go with neither. If you look at the group, you'll find
   that there are endless problems with these libraries. They're shoddy,
   poorly put together, slow and nowhere near the level of quality that
   you come to expect from GWT. The library is made by Javascript
   developers who have little to no Java knowledge. If you want a well
   test, well designed toolkit, stick with vanilla GWT and make widgets
   yourself.

   Regards,
   --
   Arthur Kalmenson

   On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Suri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Not sure if there is a thread ever discussed on this. If so, I'd
appreciate help in locating it. Tried a search and it decided to
exclude the gwt part and search only for ext which isn't much help.
Anyway, for all the people using either of these, I figure it might be
good to get some feedback on the drawbacks and strengths of each and
have something helpful for everyone like me trying to decide which is
a good fit. Any ideas? Sorry if I seem abstract, I just thought the
more general the better.

Thanks
Suri
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-29 Thread rakesh wagh

Folks, correction to my first post. The original contributor of gwt-
ext is probably still part of the project, though not as active.
http://gwt-ext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12p=10318sid=c4b4b0a204e3891ad392622656a65684#p10318

Rakesh Wagh

On Oct 27, 2:17 pm, rakesh wagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have used  GWT-ext but not ext-GWT.
 GWT-ext was a hot favorite before ext-js went commercial and before
 the ext team themselves launched ext-GWT. Now that gwt support is
 provided by the ext team themselves, I think it will make more sense
 to use ext-gwt. Moreover Sanjeev Jeevan the original creator of gwt-
 ext is no longer part of that project.

 I would go with ext-gwt with a little evaluation. Hope they dont have
 any major hiccups.

 Rakesh Wagh

 On Oct 27, 10:50 am, Suri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Not sure if there is a thread ever discussed on this. If so, I'd
  appreciate help in locating it. Tried a search and it decided to
  exclude the gwt part and search only for ext which isn't much help.
  Anyway, for all the people using either of these, I figure it might be
  good to get some feedback on the drawbacks and strengths of each and
  have something helpful for everyone like me trying to decide which is
  a good fit. Any ideas? Sorry if I seem abstract, I just thought the
  more general the better.

  Thanks
  Suri
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-28 Thread alex.d

Ext GWT definitely. It's nativa Java-GWT code vs. Javascript wrapper.
Even though you have to pay for it it's worth it.

On 28 Okt., 03:10, hezjing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi
 Yes, I agree with omsrobert that the license is one of the deciding factors.

 However, the GWT-Ext LGPL license (http://gwt-ext.com/license/) applies only
 to use of GWT-Ext with Ext versions 2.0.2 or lower.
 I'm not sure, but will Ext 2.0.2 ends of support?

 How does Ext 2.0.2 affects us? Should this be another deciding factor too?

 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:10 AM, omsrobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I think licensing is one of the deciding factors:

  GWT-Ext (http://gwt-ext.com/) is free, open source.  There is a
  companion, commercial product called GWT Plus (same author) that
  facilitates binding data objects to the widget record store.

  Ext GWT (http://extjs.com/products/gxt/) is now a commercial product
  with an open source license option.

 --

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Re: Ext GWT

2008-10-28 Thread sherod

Isn't that the code for GWT-EXT, not ExtGWT ?

On Oct 17, 3:47 am, Niklas Derouche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Michi_de [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I wanted to add a clickListener to the button and then start a method.
  Symple as it is in GWT. In Ext GWT i just cant do anything.

 createButton.addListener(new ButtonListenerAdapter(){
          public void onClick(Button button, EventObject eventObject){
                    //do your stuff
          }

 });

 That's it.

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Re: Ext GWT

2008-10-28 Thread sherod

I think the correct code for ExtGWT is

button.addListener(Events.OnClick, new ListenerButtonEvent() {
  public void handleEvent(ButtonEvent be) {
 System.out.println(Clicked!);  //Replace this 
bit :)
  }
});



On Oct 16, 7:54 pm, Michi_de [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!
 Im a beginer in GWT and i have to use Ext GWT.
 But my problem is: i cant get any usefull tutorials or anything, to
 get started with some of Ext GWT Widgets. Like the FormPanel.
 As i cant register to the Ext GWT Forum, i give a try here, maybe
 someone uses Ext GWT too and can help me.

 My problem is pretty simple:
 I create a FormPanel like this:

 public class Formular implements EntryPoint  {

         private FormPanel formular ;
         private Button createButton;

         public void onModuleLoad() {
                 createButton = new Button(Ok);
                 form = new FormPanel();

                 TextFieldString name = new TextFieldString();
                 name.setFieldLabel(Nachname);

                 form.add(nachname);
                         form.addButton(createButton);

                 RootPanel.get(form).add(form);
                 }

 }

 Actually this form works. I can add things and stuff and hit the
 button. But i cant wire any action listeners to this button. I just
 dont get it, how this should be working? The button is not the same
 button, as the GWT Button. The Ext GWT Button dont have any
 addClickListener() method.
 And so far i just cant find anything, to procede with the form.
 This form just suck terribly.

 I wanted to add a clickListener to the button and then start a method.
 Symple as it is in GWT. In Ext GWT i just cant do anything.

 Any hints, on how to work with Ext GWT Form Panels?

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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-28 Thread Arthur Kalmenson

I would say go with neither. If you look at the group, you'll find
that there are endless problems with these libraries. They're shoddy,
poorly put together, slow and nowhere near the level of quality that
you come to expect from GWT. The library is made by Javascript
developers who have little to no Java knowledge. If you want a well
test, well designed toolkit, stick with vanilla GWT and make widgets
yourself.

Regards,
--
Arthur Kalmenson



On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Suri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not sure if there is a thread ever discussed on this. If so, I'd
 appreciate help in locating it. Tried a search and it decided to
 exclude the gwt part and search only for ext which isn't much help.
 Anyway, for all the people using either of these, I figure it might be
 good to get some feedback on the drawbacks and strengths of each and
 have something helpful for everyone like me trying to decide which is
 a good fit. Any ideas? Sorry if I seem abstract, I just thought the
 more general the better.

 Thanks
 Suri
 


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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-28 Thread rlaferla

On Oct 28, 3:25 am, alex.d [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ext GWT definitely. It's nativa Java-GWT code vs. Javascript wrapper.
 Even though you have to pay for it it's worth it.

Sounds good but what are some of the problems that one may encounter
with GWT-Ext?  Also, GWT-Ext has GWT-Plus to connect your backend
database objects to the GWT-Ext widget's store (e.g. GridPanel).  What
do you use for Ext GWT?

BTW - The names are really confusing.  I expect a lawsuit will force a
name change at some point.
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GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-27 Thread Suri

Not sure if there is a thread ever discussed on this. If so, I'd
appreciate help in locating it. Tried a search and it decided to
exclude the gwt part and search only for ext which isn't much help.
Anyway, for all the people using either of these, I figure it might be
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a good fit. Any ideas? Sorry if I seem abstract, I just thought the
more general the better.

Thanks
Suri
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-27 Thread rakesh wagh

I have used  GWT-ext but not ext-GWT.
GWT-ext was a hot favorite before ext-js went commercial and before
the ext team themselves launched ext-GWT. Now that gwt support is
provided by the ext team themselves, I think it will make more sense
to use ext-gwt. Moreover Sanjeev Jeevan the original creator of gwt-
ext is no longer part of that project.

I would go with ext-gwt with a little evaluation. Hope they dont have
any major hiccups.

Rakesh Wagh

On Oct 27, 10:50 am, Suri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not sure if there is a thread ever discussed on this. If so, I'd
 appreciate help in locating it. Tried a search and it decided to
 exclude the gwt part and search only for ext which isn't much help.
 Anyway, for all the people using either of these, I figure it might be
 good to get some feedback on the drawbacks and strengths of each and
 have something helpful for everyone like me trying to decide which is
 a good fit. Any ideas? Sorry if I seem abstract, I just thought the
 more general the better.

 Thanks
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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-27 Thread omsrobert

I think licensing is one of the deciding factors:

GWT-Ext (http://gwt-ext.com/) is free, open source.  There is a
companion, commercial product called GWT Plus (same author) that
facilitates binding data objects to the widget record store.

Ext GWT (http://extjs.com/products/gxt/) is now a commercial product
with an open source license option.


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Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-27 Thread hezjing
Hi
Yes, I agree with omsrobert that the license is one of the deciding factors.

However, the GWT-Ext LGPL license (http://gwt-ext.com/license/) applies only
to use of GWT-Ext with Ext versions 2.0.2 or lower.
I'm not sure, but will Ext 2.0.2 ends of support?

How does Ext 2.0.2 affects us? Should this be another deciding factor too?


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 I think licensing is one of the deciding factors:

 GWT-Ext (http://gwt-ext.com/) is free, open source.  There is a
 companion, commercial product called GWT Plus (same author) that
 facilitates binding data objects to the widget record store.

 Ext GWT (http://extjs.com/products/gxt/) is now a commercial product
 with an open source license option.


 



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Re: Ext GWT

2008-10-17 Thread Matt Bishop

I too find ExtGWT very interesting, but frustrating too. The samples
are good, but quite thin. The docs, nonexistent.

If the author is watching this list, please take the next release
schedule and write some freaking docs instead of piling on more
features!  Your adoption rate would be much higher.

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Re: Ext GWT

2008-10-17 Thread Arthur Kalmenson
That's the problem with ExtGWT in general. I always tell people to not use
ExtGWT because it is _nowhere_ near the level of quality of GWT. You're much
better off building your own widgets. That initial investment will far
outweigh the pain of maintaining a ExtGWT app (and you won't have the
massive performance issues).

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On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Matt Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I too find ExtGWT very interesting, but frustrating too. The samples
 are good, but quite thin. The docs, nonexistent.

 If the author is watching this list, please take the next release
 schedule and write some freaking docs instead of piling on more
 features!  Your adoption rate would be much higher.

 


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Ext GWT

2008-10-16 Thread Michi_de

Hi!
Im a beginer in GWT and i have to use Ext GWT.
But my problem is: i cant get any usefull tutorials or anything, to
get started with some of Ext GWT Widgets. Like the FormPanel.
As i cant register to the Ext GWT Forum, i give a try here, maybe
someone uses Ext GWT too and can help me.

My problem is pretty simple:
I create a FormPanel like this:

public class Formular implements EntryPoint  {

private FormPanel formular ;
private Button createButton;


public void onModuleLoad() {
createButton = new Button(Ok);
form = new FormPanel();


TextFieldString name = new TextFieldString();
name.setFieldLabel(Nachname);

form.add(nachname);
form.addButton(createButton);


RootPanel.get(form).add(form);
}
}

Actually this form works. I can add things and stuff and hit the
button. But i cant wire any action listeners to this button. I just
dont get it, how this should be working? The button is not the same
button, as the GWT Button. The Ext GWT Button dont have any
addClickListener() method.
And so far i just cant find anything, to procede with the form.
This form just suck terribly.

I wanted to add a clickListener to the button and then start a method.
Symple as it is in GWT. In Ext GWT i just cant do anything.

Any hints, on how to work with Ext GWT Form Panels?
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Re: Ext GWT

2008-10-16 Thread mon3y

Hi

I googled, :)

They have a demo page so you can see how the widgets work. (http://
extjs.com/products/gxt/)
Reading the API might help to, :).

HTH

# SelectionListener listener = new SelectionListenerComponentEvent()
{
#   public void componentSelected(ComponentEvent ce) {
# Button btn = (Button) ce.component;
# Info.display(Click Event, The '{0}' button was clicked.,
btn.getText());
#   }
# };
#
# ButtonBar buttonBar = new ButtonBar();
# buttonBar.add(new Button(Click Me, listener));

On Oct 16, 10:54 am, Michi_de [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!
 Im a beginer in GWT and i have to use Ext GWT.
 But my problem is: i cant get any usefull tutorials or anything, to
 get started with some of Ext GWT Widgets. Like the FormPanel.
 As i cant register to the Ext GWT Forum, i give a try here, maybe
 someone uses Ext GWT too and can help me.

 My problem is pretty simple:
 I create a FormPanel like this:

 public class Formular implements EntryPoint  {

         private FormPanel formular ;
         private Button createButton;

         public void onModuleLoad() {
                 createButton = new Button(Ok);
                 form = new FormPanel();

                 TextFieldString name = new TextFieldString();
                 name.setFieldLabel(Nachname);

                 form.add(nachname);
                         form.addButton(createButton);

                 RootPanel.get(form).add(form);
                 }

 }

 Actually this form works. I can add things and stuff and hit the
 button. But i cant wire any action listeners to this button. I just
 dont get it, how this should be working? The button is not the same
 button, as the GWT Button. The Ext GWT Button dont have any
 addClickListener() method.
 And so far i just cant find anything, to procede with the form.
 This form just suck terribly.

 I wanted to add a clickListener to the button and then start a method.
 Symple as it is in GWT. In Ext GWT i just cant do anything.

 Any hints, on how to work with Ext GWT Form Panels?
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Re: Ext GWT

2008-10-16 Thread Niklas Derouche
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Michi_de [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I wanted to add a clickListener to the button and then start a method.
 Symple as it is in GWT. In Ext GWT i just cant do anything.


createButton.addListener(new ButtonListenerAdapter(){
 public void onClick(Button button, EventObject eventObject){
   //do your stuff
 }
});

That's it.

n

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Re: Ext GWT

2008-10-16 Thread mok sara
Hello,
I'm not very expert.i'm also beginner.if u want to get the button click
event ,you can try like the following ways.



 SelectionListener listener = new SelectionListenerComponentEvent() {
 public void componentSelected(ComponentEvent ce) {
 Button btn = (Button) ce.component;
   Info.display(Click Event, The '{0}' button was clicked.,
btn.getText());
  }
 };
 createButton = new Button(Ok,listener);
  formular = new FormPanel();
  TextFieldString name = new TextFieldString();
  name.setFieldLabel(Nachname);
   formular.add(name);
formular.addButton(createButton);
   RootPanel.get().add(formular);


I think ,this url will help you.
http://www.extjs.com/explorer/#buttons


On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Michi_de [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi!
 Im a beginer in GWT and i have to use Ext GWT.
 But my problem is: i cant get any usefull tutorials or anything, to
 get started with some of Ext GWT Widgets. Like the FormPanel.
 As i cant register to the Ext GWT Forum, i give a try here, maybe
 someone uses Ext GWT too and can help me.

 My problem is pretty simple:
 I create a FormPanel like this:

 public class Formular implements EntryPoint  {

private FormPanel formular ;
private Button createButton;


public void onModuleLoad() {
createButton = new Button(Ok);
form = new FormPanel();


TextFieldString name = new TextFieldString();
name.setFieldLabel(Nachname);

form.add(nachname);
form.addButton(createButton);


RootPanel.get(form).add(form);
}
 }

 Actually this form works. I can add things and stuff and hit the
 button. But i cant wire any action listeners to this button. I just
 dont get it, how this should be working? The button is not the same
 button, as the GWT Button. The Ext GWT Button dont have any
 addClickListener() method.
 And so far i just cant find anything, to procede with the form.
 This form just suck terribly.

 I wanted to add a clickListener to the button and then start a method.
 Symple as it is in GWT. In Ext GWT i just cant do anything.

 Any hints, on how to work with Ext GWT Form Panels?
 


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