Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Emmanuel Briot wrote: Actually, I meant to do that too, but must have forgotten. I agree, we should only show bindings up to the version we support perhaps (is that 2.6 or 2.8? I can't remember). This list is not updated by anyone except us though. The problem is that it will definitely become out of date unless someone actively checks up on all bindings. That is probably also why the bindings on there are mostly out of date for a lot of languages. Speaking as one of the maintainers for the Ada binding, it is up-to-date for gtk+ 2.8, and partially for 2.10. Should I convey this information by some other means to maintainers ? Fixed! Please let me know if there are any other bindings that have the wrong status (or just fix it directly in svn for those who have a gnome svn account). - Andreas ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
25 mar 2008 kl. 08.58 skrev Murray Cumming: Hi, On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 17:26 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 15:41 +, Martyn Russell wrote: Murray Cumming wrote: On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 13:16 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: And I still believe that the official GNOME bindings deserve to be in a separate section. I see that the site is live already. Please don't just ignore this regression. I've mentioned it before too. Hi Murray, We are not ignoring it, it is a planned change. There are one or two and we have had quite a few improvement requests since going live - we will be getting to it soon. This still hasn't happened and it's still infuriating me that the page was broken. Why can't I just fix this page as I used to keep it maintained before? Just a -1 from me regarding splitting out the official GNOME bindings. I agree that in most cases the quality for only GTK+ is better in these but it's not given and GTK+ is not only for GNOME. The GNOME bindings include (and require) a wider set of library bindings than GTK + bindings. If you want to split the tables up, I suggest that the split is on up to date bindings rather than whether they are in the GNOME bindings package. But then again, that is pretty easy to see already. Maybe just put a little marker on the bindings that are official GNOME bindings? C++ [1] C# Perl [1] ... [1] Included in the official GNOME bindings. Cheers, Mikael Hallendal -- Imendio AB, http://www.imendio.com ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 10:18 +0100, Mikael Hallendal wrote: 25 mar 2008 kl. 08.58 skrev Murray Cumming: Hi, On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 17:26 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 15:41 +, Martyn Russell wrote: Murray Cumming wrote: On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 13:16 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: And I still believe that the official GNOME bindings deserve to be in a separate section. I see that the site is live already. Please don't just ignore this regression. I've mentioned it before too. Hi Murray, We are not ignoring it, it is a planned change. There are one or two and we have had quite a few improvement requests since going live - we will be getting to it soon. This still hasn't happened and it's still infuriating me that the page was broken. Why can't I just fix this page as I used to keep it maintained before? Just a -1 from me regarding splitting out the official GNOME bindings. I agree that in most cases the quality for only GTK+ is better in these They clearly are and there's no other way to measure their quality, and no other team of people who are monitoring them, and no other schedule that you can ask them to follow to ensure their quality in future. but it's not given and GTK+ is not only for GNOME. The GNOME bindings include (and require) a wider set of library bindings than GTK + bindings. You're saying it's a disadvantage that bindings for other libraries are available too. Really, I give up. If you want to split the tables up, I suggest that the split is on up to date bindings rather than whether they are in the GNOME bindings package. But then again, that is pretty easy to see already. Maybe just put a little marker on the bindings that are official GNOME bindings? C++ [1] C# Perl [1] ... [1] Included in the official GNOME bindings. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
26 mar 2008 kl. 11.10 skrev Murray Cumming: Hi, On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 10:18 +0100, Mikael Hallendal wrote: 25 mar 2008 kl. 08.58 skrev Murray Cumming: but it's not given and GTK+ is not only for GNOME. The GNOME bindings include (and require) a wider set of library bindings than GTK + bindings. You're saying it's a disadvantage that bindings for other libraries are available too. No, I'm saying that the fact that a binding doesn't include certain GNOME libraries or follow GNOME release schedule shouldn't move it to some secondary citizen table for GTK+ which is used widely outside of GNOME. For example the C# bindings are not on the GNOME bindings page, even though it is one of the most used and high quality bindings for GTK+. Best Regards, Mikael Hallendal -- Imendio AB, http://www.imendio.com ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 11:35 +0100, Mikael Hallendal wrote: 26 mar 2008 kl. 11.10 skrev Murray Cumming: Hi, On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 10:18 +0100, Mikael Hallendal wrote: 25 mar 2008 kl. 08.58 skrev Murray Cumming: but it's not given and GTK+ is not only for GNOME. The GNOME bindings include (and require) a wider set of library bindings than GTK + bindings. You're saying it's a disadvantage that bindings for other libraries are available too. No, I'm saying that the fact that a binding doesn't include certain GNOME libraries or follow GNOME release schedule shouldn't move it to some secondary citizen table for GTK+ which is used widely outside of GNOME. For example the C# bindings are not on the GNOME bindings page, Yes, they are. even though it is one of the most used and high quality bindings for GTK+. Best Regards, Mikael Hallendal -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Murray Cumming wrote: On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 17:26 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 15:41 +, Martyn Russell wrote: We are not ignoring it, it is a planned change. There are one or two and we have had quite a few improvement requests since going live - we will be getting to it soon. This still hasn't happened and it's still infuriating me that the page was broken. Why can't I just fix this page as I used to keep it maintained before? Hi Murray, I have to say, first and foremost, I agree with Micke. The language bindings are about other languages which are available for use with GTK+. This is not GNOME. I really think having a small GNOME foot (or another icon) for indication purposes in another column is sufficient for this. I think it is a mistake to make the point of showing certain bindings as first class bindings purely because they are supported by GNOME. As for why this hasn't happened yet, the reason is quite simply, I am doing this in my spare time and have been busy. I am sorry I have not got round to fixing this sooner. We have actually moved the bindings to a new page and we now mention them in 3 places (main page, features page and development page). So we are getting there. -- Regards, Martyn ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
2008/3/26, Martyn Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Murray, I have to say, first and foremost, I agree with Micke. The language bindings are about other languages which are available for use with GTK+. This is not GNOME. I really think having a small GNOME foot (or another icon) for indication purposes in another column is sufficient for this. I think it is a mistake to make the point of showing certain bindings as first class bindings purely because they are supported by GNOME. Still, we need a way to tell people that some bindings are better than others: I would suggest to remove any bindings not supported since 2.6 from the main list, that would pretty much leave the actively maintained and most popular Gtk+ bindings on the list (most of those are already on the GNOME binding set btw). Then we can promote the most popular bindings to the highest places. Does this makes sense? -- Un saludo, Alberto Ruiz ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Alberto Ruiz wrote: 2008/3/26, Martyn Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Murray, I have to say, first and foremost, I agree with Micke. The language bindings are about other languages which are available for use with GTK+. This is not GNOME. I really think having a small GNOME foot (or another icon) for indication purposes in another column is sufficient for this. I think it is a mistake to make the point of showing certain bindings as first class bindings purely because they are supported by GNOME. Still, we need a way to tell people that some bindings are better than others: I would suggest to remove any bindings not supported since 2.6 from the main list, that would pretty much leave the actively maintained and most popular Gtk+ bindings on the list (most of those are already on the GNOME binding set btw). Then we can promote the most popular bindings to the highest places. Does this makes sense? Actually, I meant to do that too, but must have forgotten. I agree, we should only show bindings up to the version we support perhaps (is that 2.6 or 2.8? I can't remember). This list is not updated by anyone except us though. The problem is that it will definitely become out of date unless someone actively checks up on all bindings. That is probably also why the bindings on there are mostly out of date for a lot of languages. -- Regards, Martyn ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
2008/3/26, Martyn Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alberto Ruiz wrote: 2008/3/26, Martyn Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Murray, I have to say, first and foremost, I agree with Micke. The language bindings are about other languages which are available for use with GTK+. This is not GNOME. I really think having a small GNOME foot (or another icon) for indication purposes in another column is sufficient for this. I think it is a mistake to make the point of showing certain bindings as first class bindings purely because they are supported by GNOME. Still, we need a way to tell people that some bindings are better than others: I would suggest to remove any bindings not supported since 2.6 from the main list, that would pretty much leave the actively maintained and most popular Gtk+ bindings on the list (most of those are already on the GNOME binding set btw). Then we can promote the most popular bindings to the highest places. Does this makes sense? Actually, I meant to do that too, but must have forgotten. I agree, we should only show bindings up to the version we support perhaps (is that 2.6 or 2.8? I can't remember). This list is not updated by anyone except us though. The problem is that it will definitely become out of date unless someone actively checks up on all bindings. That is probably also why the bindings on there are mostly out of date for a lot of languages. I volunteer myself to do some sort of binding review as long as I can get access to update the page. (For example, the Ada bindings supports 2.10already). -- Cheers, Alberto Ruiz ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Actually, I meant to do that too, but must have forgotten. I agree, we should only show bindings up to the version we support perhaps (is that 2.6 or 2.8? I can't remember). This list is not updated by anyone except us though. The problem is that it will definitely become out of date unless someone actively checks up on all bindings. That is probably also why the bindings on there are mostly out of date for a lot of languages. Speaking as one of the maintainers for the Ada binding, it is up-to-date for gtk+ 2.8, and partially for 2.10. Should I convey this information by some other means to maintainers ? thanks in advance Emmanuel ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 15:44 +0100, Emmanuel Briot wrote: Actually, I meant to do that too, but must have forgotten. I agree, we should only show bindings up to the version we support perhaps (is that 2.6 or 2.8? I can't remember). This list is not updated by anyone except us though. The problem is that it will definitely become out of date unless someone actively checks up on all bindings. That is probably also why the bindings on there are mostly out of date for a lot of languages. Speaking as one of the maintainers for the Ada binding, it is up-to-date for gtk+ 2.8, and partially for 2.10. Should I convey this information by some other means to maintainers ? As I said before in this thread, the page used to have a sentence suggesting that you tell the language-bindings list about new or changed information. I then made those changes every few weeks. That allowed the page to be as correct as the bindings authors wanted it to be. But maintainership of this page has apparently been taken away from me. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Alberto Ruiz wrote: 2008/3/26, Martyn Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alberto Ruiz wrote: 2008/3/26, Martyn Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Murray, I have to say, first and foremost, I agree with Micke. The language bindings are about other languages which are available for use with GTK+. This is not GNOME. I really think having a small GNOME foot (or another icon) for indication purposes in another column is sufficient for this. I think it is a mistake to make the point of showing certain bindings as first class bindings purely because they are supported by GNOME. Still, we need a way to tell people that some bindings are better than others: I would suggest to remove any bindings not supported since 2.6 from the main list, that would pretty much leave the actively maintained and most popular Gtk+ bindings on the list (most of those are already on the GNOME binding set btw). Then we can promote the most popular bindings to the highest places. Does this makes sense? Actually, I meant to do that too, but must have forgotten. I agree, we should only show bindings up to the version we support perhaps (is that 2.6 or 2.8? I can't remember). This list is not updated by anyone except us though. The problem is that it will definitely become out of date unless someone actively checks up on all bindings. That is probably also why the bindings on there are mostly out of date for a lot of languages. I volunteer myself to do some sort of binding review as long as I can get access to update the page. (For example, the Ada bindings supports 2.10already). Great! Should just be a case of: $ svn co svn+ssh://username@svn.gnome.org/svn/gtk-web/trunk ... Then update the page, then: $ svn commit -m Updated foo binding information. Anyone with access to SVN can do it. The commit is not instant, the pages are rsyncd so there is a short delay - which is great if you cock things up :) The delay is about 15 minutes I think. -- Regards, Martyn ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Murray Cumming wrote: On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 15:44 +0100, Emmanuel Briot wrote: Actually, I meant to do that too, but must have forgotten. I agree, we should only show bindings up to the version we support perhaps (is that 2.6 or 2.8? I can't remember). This list is not updated by anyone except us though. The problem is that it will definitely become out of date unless someone actively checks up on all bindings. That is probably also why the bindings on there are mostly out of date for a lot of languages. Speaking as one of the maintainers for the Ada binding, it is up-to-date for gtk+ 2.8, and partially for 2.10. Should I convey this information by some other means to maintainers ? As I said before in this thread, the page used to have a sentence suggesting that you tell the language-bindings list about new or changed information. I then made those changes every few weeks. That allowed the page to be as correct as the bindings authors wanted it to be. But maintainership of this page has apparently been taken away from me. Hi Murray! I didn't know I stole gtk.org editorship from anyone (I just fix stuff here and there), but I'm unaware of any kind of technical limit to how many people can edit the page. When I do changes I just fix it in svn, doesn't this work for you? *cough*, sorry for that last part. There is no policy (that I know of, but I'm new to this list) on who can and who cannot change stuff on the page. I think what Martyn meant was that he could fix it for you, but that it would take a bit of time before he would get around to it. You are totally free to change stuff yourself though. As long as we have a general agreement on what goes on the pages and not. - Andreas ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
While you guys are talking about website stuff again, on a side note I want to mention the information about IRC stuff on the webpage: http://www.gtk.org/development.html This page mentions #gtk-devel as a place where team meetings occur, but there has been a lot of traffic to this channel recently by people looking for help with general gtk+ stuff. I wasn't sure where to file a 'bug' about this, so I posted to Bugzilla here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523725 Today Kris gave me ops so I could at least change the /topic to point people to #gtk+ but we really should make some mention of #gtk+ on the webpage somewhere so that people just know the right place to go from the beginning. Can I commit this patch to gtk-web, or should it be changed some first, or should I just let you guys take care of it? / Cody ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Cody Russell wrote: While you guys are talking about website stuff again, on a side note I want to mention the information about IRC stuff on the webpage: http://www.gtk.org/development.html This page mentions #gtk-devel as a place where team meetings occur, but there has been a lot of traffic to this channel recently by people looking for help with general gtk+ stuff. I wasn't sure where to file a 'bug' about this, so I posted to Bugzilla here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523725 Today Kris gave me ops so I could at least change the /topic to point people to #gtk+ but we really should make some mention of #gtk+ on the webpage somewhere so that people just know the right place to go from the beginning. Can I commit this patch to gtk-web, or should it be changed some first, or should I just let you guys take care of it? Certainly, go ahead! Thanks for the patch :) -- Regards, Martyn ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 17:26 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 15:41 +, Martyn Russell wrote: Murray Cumming wrote: On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 13:16 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: And I still believe that the official GNOME bindings deserve to be in a separate section. I see that the site is live already. Please don't just ignore this regression. I've mentioned it before too. Hi Murray, We are not ignoring it, it is a planned change. There are one or two and we have had quite a few improvement requests since going live - we will be getting to it soon. This still hasn't happened and it's still infuriating me that the page was broken. Why can't I just fix this page as I used to keep it maintained before? Currently I am contemplating: 1. Removing the whole table and linking to the GNOME bindings page instead which I think jdahlin suggest to me. 2. Removing anything older than (including) 2.8 which is no longer supported I think. If we do this then there is little point in having half the languages on there since the data we have shows most are only partially supported up to 2.4. But the data we have is probably out-of-date and will never be regularly up-to-date. If you just remove them then there's no easy way for people to find them. The original page had text about how the information is self-reported and therefore not that reliable. Currently the bindings link is broken since it has changed since starting the pages. I guess we should link to http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyone/Bindings That's really just for release management. I don't think it would be wise to make that the only list of our supported bindings. The existing page worked fairly well. This link will have to be kept up to date, if this is the link to use, it would be better to have a more permanent link that doesn't change with new versions of GNOME (which we used to have). Theoretically, http://www.gnome.org/start/unstable/Bindings should do that but it doesn't seem to work for sub-pages. 3. Putting the language bindings on a separate page (if we keep the table of course). This any a bunch of other things we have had requested will be processed in due course :) OK. Thanks. -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Murray Cumming wrote: what is most unfortunate is that library.g.o only has glib development docs, but not gtk development docs. That's probably because there are no tarball releases of GTK+ from svn trunk at the moment. library.gnome.org can only use tarballs, I believe. That is the main issue; the other one would be this version wouldn't be in any GNOME module set as published by the release team but this is easy to work around. Frederic ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Nice! Having SVG allows to produce nearly all other formats so that's OK. One possible addition could be some icon sized PNGs (tweaked for small size). If I have some time I'll try make them and post them on l.g.o. Christophe On Jan 30, 2008 1:11 PM, Andreas Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Nilsson wrote: Christophe Dehais wrote: Talking about the logo (which is very nice - simple and cool, like gtk :)), what about a page where one's could get it in different formats (svg, png, icon sized, etc.) ? Hi Christophe! Sounds like something that should probably go into the gnome wiki. I'll upload it later today. - Andreas http://live.gnome.org/GTKLogo Shout if you need any other formats. :) - Andreas ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 05:26:33PM +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: This link will have to be kept up to date, if this is the link to use, it would be better to have a more permanent link that doesn't change with new versions of GNOME (which we used to have). Theoretically, http://www.gnome.org/start/unstable/Bindings should do that but it doesn't seem to work for sub-pages. That should work in ~15min. (gnomeweb-wml/trunk/www.gnome.org/htaccess) -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Andreas Nilsson wrote: Christophe Dehais wrote: Talking about the logo (which is very nice - simple and cool, like gtk :)), what about a page where one's could get it in different formats (svg, png, icon sized, etc.) ? Hi Christophe! Sounds like something that should probably go into the gnome wiki. I'll upload it later today. - Andreas http://live.gnome.org/GTKLogo Shout if you need any other formats. :) - Andreas ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 13:16 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: And I still believe that the official GNOME bindings deserve to be in a separate section. I see that the site is live already. Please don't just ignore this regression. I've mentioned it before too. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Murray Cumming wrote: On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 13:16 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: And I still believe that the official GNOME bindings deserve to be in a separate section. I see that the site is live already. Please don't just ignore this regression. I've mentioned it before too. Hi Murray, We are not ignoring it, it is a planned change. There are one or two and we have had quite a few improvement requests since going live - we will be getting to it soon. Currently I am contemplating: 1. Removing the whole table and linking to the GNOME bindings page instead which I think jdahlin suggest to me. 2. Removing anything older than (including) 2.8 which is no longer supported I think. If we do this then there is little point in having half the languages on there since the data we have shows most are only partially supported up to 2.4. Currently the bindings link is broken since it has changed since starting the pages. I guess we should link to http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyone/Bindings This link will have to be kept up to date, if this is the link to use, it would be better to have a more permanent link that doesn't change with new versions of GNOME (which we used to have). 3. Putting the language bindings on a separate page (if we keep the table of course). This any a bunch of other things we have had requested will be processed in due course :) -- Regards, Martyn ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 15:41 +, Martyn Russell wrote: Murray Cumming wrote: On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 13:16 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: And I still believe that the official GNOME bindings deserve to be in a separate section. I see that the site is live already. Please don't just ignore this regression. I've mentioned it before too. Hi Murray, We are not ignoring it, it is a planned change. There are one or two and we have had quite a few improvement requests since going live - we will be getting to it soon. Currently I am contemplating: 1. Removing the whole table and linking to the GNOME bindings page instead which I think jdahlin suggest to me. 2. Removing anything older than (including) 2.8 which is no longer supported I think. If we do this then there is little point in having half the languages on there since the data we have shows most are only partially supported up to 2.4. But the data we have is probably out-of-date and will never be regularly up-to-date. If you just remove them then there's no easy way for people to find them. The original page had text about how the information is self-reported and therefore not that reliable. Currently the bindings link is broken since it has changed since starting the pages. I guess we should link to http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyone/Bindings That's really just for release management. I don't think it would be wise to make that the only list of our supported bindings. The existing page worked fairly well. This link will have to be kept up to date, if this is the link to use, it would be better to have a more permanent link that doesn't change with new versions of GNOME (which we used to have). Theoretically, http://www.gnome.org/start/unstable/Bindings should do that but it doesn't seem to work for sub-pages. 3. Putting the language bindings on a separate page (if we keep the table of course). This any a bunch of other things we have had requested will be processed in due course :) OK. Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 15:46 +0100, Tim Janik wrote: [snip] what is most unfortunate is that library.g.o only has glib development docs, but not gtk development docs. That's probably because there are no tarball releases of GTK+ from svn trunk at the moment. library.gnome.org can only use tarballs, I believe. having development docs readily available is fairly important to talk about new stuff and get reviewers interest. (building those can easily be automated via buildign the gtk+.module jhbuild module.) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 02:30:14PM +, Martyn Russell wrote: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/download-linux.html * outdated versions You disagree? It might not make sense to list unsupported versions here I agree, but we should definitely list older versions. No, I mean that it doesn't show e.g. 2.12. Don't mind about older versions. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation.html * under API, perhaps s/Library/Component/ or something? I prefer Library, since they are libraries. Shouldn't Library be used for the collection of API docs? IMO gtk+ has e.g. an API reference. The combination of all that stuff could be called a library. gtk.org already links to library.g.o for API docs, it also redirects faq and tutorial2.0 accesses to library.g.o now. we still have a static version of the tutorial1.2 there though, because it's not provided by library.g.o. what is most unfortunate is that library.g.o only has glib development docs, but not gtk development docs. having development docs readily available is fairly important to talk about new stuff and get reviewers interest. (building those can easily be automated via buildign the gtk+.module jhbuild module.) -- Regards, Olav --- ciaoTJ ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
El dom, 27-01-2008 a las 23:37 +, Martyn Russell escribió: The plan is to upload these pages on Tuesday sometime. If anyone has any issues to take up before then, let me know. A small correction. In documentation.html GTK+ 2.0 Tree View This tutorial covers the GtkTreeView and was written by Vijay Kumar B. The linked tutorial is actually about GtkTextView. Claudio -- Claudio Saavedra [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Claudio Saavedra wrote: El dom, 27-01-2008 a las 23:37 +, Martyn Russell escribió: The plan is to upload these pages on Tuesday sometime. If anyone has any issues to take up before then, let me know. A small correction. In documentation.html GTK+ 2.0 Tree View This tutorial covers the GtkTreeView and was written by Vijay Kumar B. The linked tutorial is actually about GtkTextView. Great and well spotted, thanks. This fix has been committed. -- Regards, Martyn ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Bastiaan Veelo wrote: Hi, Hi, First off: congratulations with a clean site, good first impressions. I am not a GTK+ dev, but I happened to see your post and take the liberty to share my small comments. Thanks, it has taken long enough :) Logo: fresh look, I like it. However, it looks slightly distorted to me, if it is supposed to resemble a perfect cube. As you know, all parallel lines in a perspective projection share a common vanishing point. This seems not to be the case particularly in the upper and lower edges of the green front face and the corresponding edges in the back. Also, you might want to consider to make the 'invisible' edges not as heavy as the others; I suggest to have a little of the face colour mixed in them to give them a shine-through appearance. Thanks for your thoughts, but ultimately, it is just a logo and I think it looks great ;) Banner: is one single PNG. I don't know how much band-width is an issue today (it isn't for me) and the file is not very large, but it could be reduced more by having the logo and the title in separate PNGs against a background gradient. This is very much a non-issue to me. You can do it either way. I prefer the way it is because you get a consistent feel across all browsers and are not subjected to different font size and look issues. Lay-out: I personally dislike sites with a fixed page width. I think that the ability of browsers to authonomously break lines is one of the prime beauties of HTML. It is a lot of scrolling too, as the pages are quite narrow. As a user of gtk.org I would really appreciate it if you could drop the fixed width :-) The layout will not change ;) I have spent 4 drafts trying out different layouts and trying to get ONE which works on all browsers and works on devices like the Nokia N800, etc is a nightmare. The fixed width design is used quite often on other sites too. None of these issues should delay the release, they can be adjusted any time. And I can help if you want. No need, but thanks for your support and your comments! -- Regards, Martyn ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Hi ! On Jan 28, 2008 10:48 AM, Martyn Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Logo: fresh look, I like it. However, it looks slightly distorted to me, if it is supposed to resemble a perfect cube. As you know, all parallel lines in a perspective projection share a common vanishing point. This seems not to be the case particularly in the upper and lower edges of the green front face and the corresponding edges in the back. Also, you might want to consider to make the 'invisible' edges not as heavy as the others; I suggest to have a little of the face colour mixed in them to give them a shine-through appearance. Thanks for your thoughts, but ultimately, it is just a logo and I think it looks great ;) Talking about the logo (which is very nice - simple and cool, like gtk :)), what about a page where one's could get it in different formats (svg, png, icon sized, etc.) ? cheers, Christophe. ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Le lundi 28 janvier 2008, à 01:25 +0100, Andreas Nilsson a écrit : Olav Vitters wrote: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/development.html * links to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for donation things, shouldn't that rather use some private email address? IIRC there is a better one. perhaps also mention that although it is the GNOME foundation, the money will be dedicated to GTK+ (there is such an arrangement right?) What address is that? I guess it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Martyn Russell wrote: Hi, The final draft of the new GTK+ web site has been complete with help from Andreas Nilsson and are now available here: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/ The plan is to upload these pages on Tuesday sometime. If anyone has any issues to take up before then, let me know. The new site look great. A few nit picks: features.html * Language Bindings Missing 2.12 column which should contain: gtkmm, pygtk, java-gnome, gtk2perl. * Foundations Missing new features from GIO and also GObject * Accommodating For consistency, Localisation-Localization, apply american english grammar to the whole site perhaps? documentation.html * Documentation Missing GIO Footer: Copyright 2007-2008? Johan ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 09:26 -0200, Johan Dahlin wrote: Martyn Russell wrote: Hi, The final draft of the new GTK+ web site has been complete with help from Andreas Nilsson and are now available here: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/ The plan is to upload these pages on Tuesday sometime. If anyone has any issues to take up before then, let me know. The new site look great. A few nit picks: features.html * Language Bindings Missing 2.12 column which should contain: gtkmm, pygtk, java-gnome, gtk2perl. And I still believe that the official GNOME bindings deserve to be in a separate section. Otherwise, the site is looking great. * Foundations Missing new features from GIO and also GObject * Accommodating For consistency, Localisation-Localization, apply american english grammar to the whole site perhaps? documentation.html * Documentation Missing GIO Footer: Copyright 2007-2008? Johan ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Vincent Untz wrote: Le lundi 28 janvier 2008, à 01:25 +0100, Andreas Nilsson a écrit : Olav Vitters wrote: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/development.html * links to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for donation things, shouldn't that rather use some private email address? IIRC there is a better one. perhaps also mention that although it is the GNOME foundation, the money will be dedicated to GTK+ (there is such an arrangement right?) What address is that? I guess it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it really that address? or is it a guess? :) -- Regards, Martyn ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Olav Vitters wrote: On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 11:37:47PM +, Martyn Russell wrote: Looks great. Tried to find very small things to note (nothing important): http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/index.html * LGPL link is the v3 one Fixed. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/features.html * no n810 Added. * 'Partially Supported' image looks like a negative (not supported) It is the same way we show things in the toolkit with GtkCheckButtons. * cross platform should include BSD etc as well Well, we have changed it to include Unix. That should cover all cases. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/overview.html * perhaps mention LGPL version? Fixed. * languages could link to languages overview page Fixed. * community section talks about 2.10 while 2.12 is out Shows how long I have been doing this :) Fixed. * community has 'These people are listed below.', don't see them Fixed. * community: have a link to the release announcement I changed this to not point to any announcement, otherwise it will need constantly keeping up to date. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/download-linux.html * outdated versions You disagree? It might not make sense to list unsupported versions here I agree, but we should definitely list older versions. * really linux? Changed to GNU/Linux Unix. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation.html * under API, perhaps s/Library/Component/ or something? I prefer Library, since they are libraries. * links to: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation-old.html with a mention of gtk 1.2 docs. I'd assume to get API docs, but those aren't there. No, it isn't supported any longer. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation-old.html * links to http://imendio.com/tutorial1.2/, which seems to be down or something. This will be resolved when we migrate to gtk.org, since it is still on there. I am thinking about removing this though. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/mailing-lists.html * perhaps add 'language-bindings' ? Hmm, wasn't sure about this, since it is more GNOME language bindings. I can add it though. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/development.html * links to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for donation things, shouldn't that rather use some private email address? IIRC there is a better one. perhaps also mention that although it is the GNOME foundation, the money will be dedicated to GTK+ (there is such an arrangement right?) I added some more about how it is for GNOME, etc. What is the alternate email address then? Anyone know? -- Regards, Martyn ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 02:30:14PM +, Martyn Russell wrote: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/download-linux.html * outdated versions You disagree? It might not make sense to list unsupported versions here I agree, but we should definitely list older versions. No, I mean that it doesn't show e.g. 2.12. Don't mind about older versions. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation.html * under API, perhaps s/Library/Component/ or something? I prefer Library, since they are libraries. Shouldn't Library be used for the collection of API docs? IMO gtk+ has e.g. an API reference. The combination of all that stuff could be called a library. * links to: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation-old.html with a mention of gtk 1.2 docs. I'd assume to get API docs, but those aren't there. No, it isn't supported any longer. But documentation.html says 'Although we recommend the GTK2 platform, we keep the GTK 1.2 Documentation around for those who need it.', so I expect API docs. Maybe reword previous sentence? Perhaps mention it is included in the 1.2 tarball? http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/mailing-lists.html * perhaps add 'language-bindings' ? Hmm, wasn't sure about this, since it is more GNOME language bindings. I can add it though. Wasn't sure (description says GNOME and GTK+). Leaving to you to decide ;-) http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/development.html * links to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for donation things, shouldn't that rather use some private email address? IIRC there is a better one. perhaps also mention that although it is the GNOME foundation, the money will be dedicated to GTK+ (there is such an arrangement right?) I added some more about how it is for GNOME, etc. What is the alternate email address then? Anyone know? I guess fundraising at gnome org, taken from http://www.gnome.org/friends/ cc'ing vuntz to confirm. -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Philippe De Swert wrote: The new site look great. A few nit picks: features.html * Language Bindings Missing 2.12 column which should contain: gtkmm, pygtk, java-gnome, gtk2perl. * Foundations Missing new features from GIO and also GObject What about GModule, GFoo, GBar, GWhatEverNext :) These shouldn't be listed here. They mean nothing to someone trying to understand the bigger picture when reading that blurb. * Accommodating For consistency, Localisation-Localization, apply american english grammar to the whole site perhaps? Thanks. And I support using UK English, so let us start a flamewar on this :-) I am British, and there won't be a flame war ;) What annoys me the most (especially on my wide-screen monitor) is that I have a very thin GTK+ website which requires me to scroll down a lot. And I don't like to have to view a website in 10:16 screen as it is quite unpractical. It is pretty hard to swivel a 22 screen that way. Also on my laptop monitor (which is a 4:3 high resolution screen) it makes for annoying reading. Could you make sure the site expands sideways to accomodate for the screen? Not many people still look on 800 pixel wide screens. Well, imagine how it looks on my 30 monitor with 2560x1600 resolution :) but the point is it works everywhere, even on the Nokia device. You will never fit everyone's needs when it comes to web design - that is front and foremost what I have learned through doing this. -- Regards, Martyn ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Michael L Torrie (sorta) wrote: I'm always amused by people who have big, hires screens and want to maximize windows. In my opinion, on a 20 wide screen, I want layouts to be narrow enough to be in a nice tall window that's narrow enough to allow easy reading. It's funny that you use the phrases I want and In my opinion, and then go on to assert that opinion as fact: Letting the text spread out wide is not readable. If you had appended to that the following: ... for me, although others may have different preferences and abilities and may find wide text rows perfectly easy -- and preferable -- to read. ... then, your statements would have made sense. Why people still design based on a single fixed width for the browser window is beyond me (aside from simple laziness, with which I can sympathize). -brian ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 23:37 +, Martyn Russell wrote: Hi, The final draft of the new GTK+ web site has been complete with help from Andreas Nilsson and are now available here: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/ it's very, very cool. kudos to you and Andreas: you lot did an impressive job. I really like the new logo as well. The plan is to upload these pages on Tuesday sometime. If anyone has any issues to take up before then, let me know. none from me. ciao, Emmanuele. -- Emmanuele Bassi, W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.net B: http://log.emmanuelebassi.net ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 11:37:47PM +, Martyn Russell wrote: The final draft of the new GTK+ web site has been complete with help from Andreas Nilsson and are now available here: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/ The plan is to upload these pages on Tuesday sometime. If anyone has any issues to take up before then, let me know. Looks great. Tried to find very small things to note (nothing important): http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/index.html * LGPL link is the v3 one http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/features.html * no n810 * 'Partially Supported' image looks like a negative (not supported) * cross platform should include BSD etc as well http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/overview.html * perhaps mention LGPL version? * languages could link to languages overview page * community section talks about 2.10 while 2.12 is out * community has 'These people are listed below.', don't see them * community: have a link to the release announcement http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/download-linux.html * outdated versions * really linux? http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation.html * under API, perhaps s/Library/Component/ or something? * links to: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation-old.html with a mention of gtk 1.2 docs. I'd assume to get API docs, but those aren't there. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation-old.html * links to http://imendio.com/tutorial1.2/, which seems to be down or something. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/mailing-lists.html * perhaps add 'language-bindings' ? http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/development.html * links to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for donation things, shouldn't that rather use some private email address? IIRC there is a better one. perhaps also mention that although it is the GNOME foundation, the money will be dedicated to GTK+ (there is such an arrangement right?) -- Regards, Olav ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Le dimanche 27 janvier 2008, à 23:37 +, Martyn Russell a écrit : Hi, The final draft of the new GTK+ web site has been complete with help from Andreas Nilsson and are now available here: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/ The plan is to upload these pages on Tuesday sometime. If anyone has any issues to take up before then, let me know. In overview.html, there's a link to atk.org, which doesn't look like a website about ATK... Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Olav Vitters wrote: On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 11:37:47PM +, Martyn Russell wrote: The final draft of the new GTK+ web site has been complete with help from Andreas Nilsson and are now available here: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/ The plan is to upload these pages on Tuesday sometime. If anyone has any issues to take up before then, let me know. Looks great. Tried to find very small things to note (nothing important): Hi Olav! Glad you like it! http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/index.html * LGPL link is the v3 one http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/features.html * no n810 Latest and greatest should totally be there. Perhaps we should only use the n810 there. Saying only the N-series would save us from fixing this every year when a new model comes out, but N-series is for their phones as well, right? * 'Partially Supported' image looks like a negative (not supported) * cross platform should include BSD etc as well I used the ones that we use in Clearlooks. We have the - -character there. Perhaps we could use a grayed out check or something. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/overview.html * perhaps mention LGPL version? * languages could link to languages overview page * community section talks about 2.10 while 2.12 is out * community has 'These people are listed below.', don't see them * community: have a link to the release announcement http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/download-linux.html * outdated versions * really linux? Linux is a really strong brand and probably what ISV's are looking for. I think it would be a bit tricky if we start addressing all the UNIXes. gnome.org says GNOME offers an easy to understand desktop for your GNU/Linux or UNIX computer. Linux and UNIX could work. A voice in the back of my head (that sounds a bit like RMS voice :) ) say it should say GNU/Linux. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation.html * under API, perhaps s/Library/Component/ or something? * links to: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation-old.html with a mention of gtk 1.2 docs. I'd assume to get API docs, but those aren't there. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation-old.html * links to http://imendio.com/tutorial1.2/, which seems to be down or something. Sorry, missed that when I went over it for broken links earlier today. http://imendio.com/tutorial1.2/ is the wrong link. Any idea where I can find this documentation? http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/mailing-lists.html * perhaps add 'language-bindings' ? http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/development.html * links to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for donation things, shouldn't that rather use some private email address? IIRC there is a better one. perhaps also mention that although it is the GNOME foundation, the money will be dedicated to GTK+ (there is such an arrangement right?) What address is that? Thanks for all the feedback! - Andreas ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Vincent Untz wrote: Le dimanche 27 janvier 2008, à 23:37 +, Martyn Russell a écrit : Hi, The final draft of the new GTK+ web site has been complete with help from Andreas Nilsson and are now available here: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/ The plan is to upload these pages on Tuesday sometime. If anyone has any issues to take up before then, let me know. In overview.html, there's a link to atk.org, which doesn't look like a website about ATK... Vincent Hi Vincent! Is there any separate website for ATK? If not, we can remove the link. - Andreas ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
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[snip] On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 01:25:51AM +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/features.html * no n810 Latest and greatest should totally be there. Perhaps we should only use the n810 there. Saying only the N-series would save us from fixing this every year when a new model comes out, but N-series is for their phones as well, right? Or use Nokia internet tablets or maemo ? -- GPG-Key: 0xA3FD0DF7 - 9F73 032E EAC9 F7AD 951F 280E CB66 8E29 A3FD 0DF7 Debian User and Developer. Homepage: www.foolab.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Martyn Russell wrote: Hi, The final draft of the new GTK+ web site has been complete with help from Andreas Nilsson and are now available here: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/ The plan is to upload these pages on Tuesday sometime. If anyone has any issues to take up before then, let me know. We should coordinate this with the switch to cube. I upgraded the machine this weekend. -Shawn ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
Re: GTK+ Website Review - Final Draft
Andreas Nilsson wrote: Olav Vitters wrote: On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 11:37:47PM +, Martyn Russell wrote: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/ http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation.html * under API, perhaps s/Library/Component/ or something? * links to: http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation-old.html with a mention of gtk 1.2 docs. I'd assume to get API docs, but those aren't there. http://imendio.com/~martyn/gtk/draft-final/documentation-old.html * links to http://imendio.com/tutorial1.2/, which seems to be down or something. Sorry, missed that when I went over it for broken links earlier today. http://imendio.com/tutorial1.2/ is the wrong link. Any idea where I can find this documentation? Upon closer inspection, this seems to be one of the tutorials that Tim's script builds when picking stuff up from SVN, it's currently here [1]. So this link should work as soon as the site is up on gtk.org 1. http://gtk.org/tutorial1.2/ - Andreas ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list
