[h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 5, Issue 351
In a message dated 4/22/06 6:05:50 AM GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Plunkett and MacLean yeah, but the really glaring bit was the sheer black stocking one of the robbery victims was wearing that said, the coachman's coat is fabulous ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 5, Issue 351
In a message dated 4/22/06 6:05:50 AM GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp, fabulous film - was on telly here again a couple of months ago - always try to see it when it's on :-) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 5, Issue 351
In a message dated 4/22/06 6:05:50 AM GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, the other Mel Gibson Scottish film. Sharon ah - but william wallace took York, you know;-) I actually have one friend (Scottish) who rants for about half an hour every time it's mentioned - on the basis of how large an insult it is to william wallace to show him as basically a peasant (given he was actually a lowland knight, and very well educated). And then he starts on the tartan and blue faces ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pregnant Tudors
At 23:45 21/04/2006, you wrote: This pregnant Tudor lady is currently on show at the Tate Britain... http://www.tate.org.uk/servlet/ViewWork?workid=27365searchid=22478 I know that recently there was a discussion on images of Tudor ladies in pregnant gowns but I read and dismissed it as interesting not relevant. Well, it's come back to bite me!! Did anyone keep a file of the images that they could share please? It is only images that I need, not the text. Thanks Kate - I love that one. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] fall front trousers, etc.
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[h-cost] Library lover
Here's another reason I read h-costume and find it invaluable. Often times other members mention books that sound delicious. If the book is hard to find or really expensive, I go to the on-line catalogue of the public library to see if it's there. After I've actually looked at the book in person sometimes I feel I have to own it. Then I steal it from the library. NO! Just kidding of course! Then I go to the usual book-buying sources. Right now I've just reserved Toile de Jouy because it was mentioned in the last h-costume digest. And here's a plea for public libraries - they're always short of funds. A yearly donation is tax-deductible. With your contribution they can go out and buy more books - and keep the lights on. Martha ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Possibly little known costume film
We caught this on Turner Classics last week and were charmed (if that is the right word!) with the story line as well as the costumes. Kathleen - Original Message - From: Lavolta Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 5:45 PM Subject: [h-cost] Possibly little known costume film The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp, produced in England in 1943 in early Technicolor (which here comes off looking painterly rather than crude). This film is a rather mild, understanding, even sentimental satire of the Victorian/Edwardian school of gentlemanly war, and indeed of that style of gentleman. However, due to the war effort the film came under a great deal of criticism at the time, and Churchill was among those who felt it should not even be released. With historical hindsight, its political points seem quite true, rather than inflammatory. But it's not entirely a war flick; in fact, it's in large part a romance. It starts in 1901 or 1902 (I forget which) and continues up to the early 1940s. As far as costumes, settings, etc. go it's quite lavish for its period. It's a good thing this film has been re-released. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Mouldy linen/dyed linen
A drastic move because it contains chlorine...Aunt Ellen's stain remover (JoAnns carries it) This is a wonder product for the type of stain you are dealing with. I had a tux shirt that went through the wash with the bow tie in the pocket and was dismayed that the red bled at that spot of contact. Used AE while the garment was still wet and it worked like magic. I then tried it on my favorite Tea Cozy that had long set in stains from normal use and was amazed that I was able to bring it to almost new appearance. It is a 'spot' cleaner, and as I said has some chlorine in it and ? But it works, and my linens do not seem to be the worse for the treatment. It comes for colored fabric as well as white. I have not seen noticeable affect on the surrounding fibers. - Original Message - From: Gwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: [h-cost] Mouldy linen/dyed linen I've read all the posts about the mouldy linen but what about a white linen that dye has bled into? I have heavy white linen and it has blue black stains on it from another fabric that was touching it. Gwenhwyfar ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 5, Issue 350
Sharon wrote: So anachronism, especially deliberate anachronism, in movies is fine with me as long as the movie isn't trying to fool people into believing it isn't anachronism -- I'll take A Knight's Tale and Shakespeare In Love over Elizabeth or That Film Whose Name Shall Not Be Uttered any day! Hear hear! I love A Knight's Tale, and the thing I love the most is that the STORY is pretty close to medieval. William gets to be a knight at the end, he doesn't decided that we are all knights in our hearts, or something stupid like that. The lady he loves says she would marry him and live in a hut with pigs, and he tells her she doesn't know what she's talking about. Etc. The ananchronisms are to help people understand the medieval story. It doesn't change history and pretend to be accurate, or give characters stupid pop-psych reasons for their actions (my mom died and my dad married a peasant -- angst, angst!). Once I got over the shock, I thought the costumes were a fun meld of medieval and modern, and I enjoyed seeing the influences. My favorite anachronistic moment was when Adhemar is off fighting and he gets the results of the tournaments -- a big pile of illuminated documents -- like the sports section of the morning newspaper. Marie Antoinette sounds rather interesting. I will keep an open mind. Gail Finke ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 5, Issue 351
Sharon wrote: No, the other Mel Gibson Scottish film. I always thought The Film Whose Name Shall Not Be Uttered was the one with the title ending Prince of Thieves. Around here, anyway. Sorry if I caused any palpitations by writing even that much of it-- Gail Finke ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Mouldy linen/dyed linen
Quoting Gwen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've read all the posts about the mouldy linen but what about a white linen that dye has bled into? I have heavy white linen and it has blue black stains on it from another fabric that was touching it. From another list ... - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:25:45 -0400 From: jen funk segrest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [sca-bead] Got a stain on your garb? To: App list list [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did. I was showing someone at RUM a few weeks ago how to do viking wire knitting and the pen I was using as a mandrel had the cap off and garb beneath had a HUGE permanent ink marker stain. All the way through two dresses to my skin. I had washed the viking apron, it's old I wasn't out anything, and taken alcohol to it to vainly try to get it out (don't use that I found out). The large dime sized black dot on the front right above the belt line on my grey herolfnes underdress was the worst, it's my main piece of garb right now. I wisely hadn't washed since it happened, but had taken some alcohol to the smaller spots. I knew washing could set in stains so I let it alone. it's been sitting in my hamper since while I researched some options. I found this stuff recommended on the Sharpie marker site called Amodex. http://www.amodexink.com/ A quick google search found me several places that had it and I ordered a 1oz bottle. It came today. It claims to remove ink of all kinds, grease, food, berry, blood, the works. Basically if it's a stain it'll take it out on ANY fabric or surface. I have to say this crap works. At least on permanent marker on fabric! WOW! It's very much like a dishwashing liquid in appearance an consistancy, it comes with a brush. I could see each successive application of a few drops and rubbing working by the spot underneath go from a bloody yellow to yellow to a beige to barely anything at all. Took about a half hour and over a dozen applications of the liquid but by the end I had a hard time spotting the I was working on. And it took out the smaller ones. It also, though, removed most of the stain on my viking apron as well, and it had been washed before. but the results are not NEARLY as impressive as the unwashed dress. After the washing I just put the dresses in for I expect it to be nearly invisible on the grey dress. Definitely wearable without being under another dress even. Just wanted to pass on a good product we probably will all need at some point. I have a ton left (probably only used a tablespoon's worth) and happy to have it in case of a future incident. If anyone wants the link to buy where i got it from email me. You can also order some direct from the manufacturer in larger and travel sizes. I highly suggest buying one before you need it. I wish I'd found it years ago. griz This email is allowed to be: [x] Shared [x] Forwarded [ ] Used as documentation [x] Tattoed on butt in 72 point Times New Roman Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tudor Tailor....a review
Quoting Lloyd Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have to add that after examining extant 18th C garments, I am amazed at all the piecing that was used to get the whole costume out of a given fabric yardage.Lots!! Matching patterns, never mind grain, did not seem to be a high priority. Using today's fabric widths often prompts wider skirts or fuller sleeves because our aesthetic consciousness allows for an opulence that may never have been possible in times past. Another earlier example is the Eleanor of Toledo burial dress -- she also wore it when she was alive and was painted in this gown at least once (so you can't say it was pieced because she was buried in it) http://epee.goldsword.com/sfarmer/SCA/Paintings/EleanoraBurialDress-150.jpg Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Knight's Tale
I'm with Albert on this oneI can handle purely modern or anachronistic interpretations just fine, but found the mix of modern and peri-oid disconcerting and unimpressive. Yeah, I got it, but I didn't *like* it. Ditto something like Moulin Rouge. The disccordance between rock music and historical pieces just does *nothing* for me. --Sue in Montana, who actually has rather eclectic musical tastes, including a fair amount of rock. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Knight's Tale In a message dated 4/20/2006 10:53:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They did the same thing with A Knight's Tale. Decent story, fun characters and okay clothing but the music..Very rock and totally out of place (along with the icky lampshade hat on his girlfriend). Now, see I thought the music and the medieval punk really MADE the movie. It would have been boring w/o it, IMO. Snerf. I thought they might as well have kept the jousting, plumped for a modern setting and achieved less net total anachronism. *** And I thought it so mixed up and vapid as to not even be worth the effort of hating it...or ever thinking about it again. Different strokes indeed. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Pregnant Jacobeans
This one is from 1620ish -- it's another one of Margaret of Austria http://search.sothebys.com/jsps/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=4M8S4 - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Knight's Tale
I'm not seeing snarking at all. Sheesh, chill, huh? --Sue, who's not quite figured out which Movie That Shall Not Be Named people are referring to. - Original Message - From: Chiara Francesca Arianna d'Onofrio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Knight's Tale Jesus folks .. the snarking really needs to end. Sigh. On Fri, April 21, 2006 3:22 pm, Dianne Greg Stucki said: - Original Message - From: Sharon L. Krossa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Knight's Tale So anachronism, especially deliberate anachronism, in movies is fine with me as long as the movie isn't trying to fool people into believing it isn't anachronism -- I'll take A Knight's Tale and Shakespeare In Love over Elizabeth or That Film Whose Name Shall Not Be Uttered any day! Sharon lol...I have never yet seen That Movie. And I have no desire to do so! Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Knight's Tale
In a message dated 4/22/2006 12:45:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, the other Mel Gibson Scottish film The Passion of the Christ? Weren't they speaking Pict? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Knight's Tale
Oh. Okay. I never would have guessed that in a million years. I like that one as a movie, but really *hated* the historical inaccuracies built into it, since I find history pretty fascinating and entertaining sans adulteration for plot purposes. --Sue - Original Message - From: Sharon L. Krossa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:44 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] Knight's Tale At 6:53 PM -0700 4/21/06, Sharon at Collierfam.com wrote (in reference to my reference to That Film Whose Name Shall Not Be Uttered): Do you mean Macbeth? (hee-hee) No, the other Mel Gibson Scottish film. Sharon PS For those interested, I have a page with a few comments on the film in question at http://MedievalScotland.org/scotbiblio/braveheart.shtml (but those who don't like to hear that films are historically inaccurate should stay away ;-) -- Sharon Krossa, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resources for Scottish history, names, clothing, language more: Medieval Scotland - http://MedievalScotland.org/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Mouldy linen/dyed linen
I've read all the posts about the mouldy linen but what about a white linen that dye has bled into? I have heavy white linen and it has blue black stains on it from another fabric that was touching it. Rit makes something called color remover. I haven't used it myself but it may help your linen. Diana www.RenaissanceFabrics.net Everything for the Costumer Become the change you want to see in the world. --Ghandi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tudor Tailor....a review
Truly? I've seen a couple of books and museums claim that, but it's always the wrong dress. Which painting are you referring to? --Sue (16th century geek ;o) - Original Message - From: Susan B. Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Tudor Tailora review Quoting Lloyd Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have to add that after examining extant 18th C garments, I am amazed at all the piecing that was used to get the whole costume out of a given fabric yardage.Lots!! Matching patterns, never mind grain, did not seem to be a high priority. Using today's fabric widths often prompts wider skirts or fuller sleeves because our aesthetic consciousness allows for an opulence that may never have been possible in times past. Another earlier example is the Eleanor of Toledo burial dress -- she also wore it when she was alive and was painted in this gown at least once (so you can't say it was pieced because she was buried in it) http://epee.goldsword.com/sfarmer/SCA/Paintings/EleanoraBurialDress-150.jpg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Knight's Tale
ROTFLMAO!!! --Sue - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Knight's Tale In a message dated 4/22/2006 12:45:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, the other Mel Gibson Scottish film The Passion of the Christ? Weren't they speaking Pict? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tudor Tailor....a review
In a message dated 4/22/2006 11:23:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://epee.goldsword.com/sfarmer/SCA/Paintings/EleanoraBurialDress-150.jpg As one can see from the splayed out remains of the gown, the piecing is symmetrical and careful. Obviously employed to get the width needed to cut the large pattern pieces. This is not what we were talking about, careful piecing of plain fabric. We were talking about matching patterns on fabric and piecing every which way to get even small parts, like tabs or sleeves, cut out. This hap hazard piecing indeed goes on as well as ordered intentional piecing. But I say that matching brocades and prints was just as important and done just as much whenever possible as we would today. Perhaps a lot of hap hazard pieced garments survive because they weren't liked and not worn as much. I'll bet most were cut from some other garment...thus great fabric limitations. And I don't mean the piecing of linings and facings either. To think that people just didn't care about it or accepted sloppy piecing with no problamo is rubbish. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tudor Tailor....a review
Quoting Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Truly? I've seen a couple of books and museums claim that, but it's always the wrong dress. Which painting are you referring to? --Sue (16th century geek ;o) I believe that it's this painting (and I can't remember if it's a Bronzino or an Allori) http://www.tudor-portraits.com/ElenoraToledo4.jpg Well, drat -- no it's not. There's no trim up the center-front. *sigh* That's the one that I was thinking of anyway. *sigh* Susan Another earlier example is the Eleanor of Toledo burial dress -- she also wore it when she was alive and was painted in this gown at least once (so you can't say it was pieced because she was buried in it) http://epee.goldsword.com/sfarmer/SCA/Paintings/EleanoraBurialDress-150.jpg - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Knight's Tale
In a message dated 4/22/2006 12:48:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No they were speaking a dialect from that time. It is suppose to be the same language Jesus spoke. I can't think of what it is called rigght now. But it isn't pict or galic. *** Aramaic. and the Romans spoke Latin. How CLEVER of Mel NOT! a pretentious, ugly film as shallow as a teaspoon. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Center strip on Eleonora's gowns (WasRE: [h-cost] Tudor Tailor....a review)
The Pink gown is by Bronzino and supposed to be Eleonora's wedding gown-- the dress in which she made her formal entrance into Florence. Florentines liked color and probably would not have liked the black gown she wore when she landed in Pisa... The dress in which she was buried in, was a solid satin, not the patterned dress in black gold and white (silver?). Her burial dress was something that she had worn before, and was not especially made for her to wear in her coffin. Remember, she died in Pisa, in December 1562, was not embalmed after she died, was transported to Florence and was buried. They probably dressed her in a hurry (ugh), because of the state of her body. You might be thinking of the red gown that was on display in Memphis last year. It was found in Pisa on a statue of the BVMary, at/near the convent/church that Eleonora had endowed... http://www.wonders.org/masters8.htm The dresses worn by Eleonora in her Bronzino portraits usually don't have that center strip down the CF. You can surmise that is there from the pictures where she wears a zimarra (surcoat). Where you do see the strip come from the hands of copyists, or students of Bronzino or from his workshop-- not from the master himself. The Alorri portrait in Francisco's Studiolo is posthumous. The standing color style looks to be to late to actually be worn by Eleonora. Regards- Monica Spence (SCA: Catriona MacDuff) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Susan B. Farmer Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:00 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Tudor Tailora review Quoting Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Truly? I've seen a couple of books and museums claim that, but it's always the wrong dress. Which painting are you referring to? --Sue (16th century geek ;o) I believe that it's this painting (and I can't remember if it's a Bronzino or an Allori) http://www.tudor-portraits.com/ElenoraToledo4.jpg Well, drat -- no it's not. There's no trim up the center-front. *sigh* That's the one that I was thinking of anyway. *sigh* Susan Another earlier example is the Eleanor of Toledo burial dress -- she also wore it when she was alive and was painted in this gown at least once (so you can't say it was pieced because she was buried in it) http://epee.goldsword.com/sfarmer/SCA/Paintings/EleanoraBurialDress-150.jpg - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Steam Iron source
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know where an American friend can buy a steam iron with a separate reservoir in the U.S. She says she has not been able to find one. Also, if there is a source, any recommendations as to brand. I have a Tefal bought here in the U.K. and it *loves* ironing linen (which is more than I do!) Suzi (who really needs to find a new job - I hate ironing, and I hate machining!!) Sorry, I can't help for a US source, but thank-you for the opinion about the Tefal steam iron - I've been eyeing them off over here in Australia. One day... I just went looking and found this link - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B8ZPN6/102-6325019-4567367?v=glancen=284507 DeLonghi also make one which I presume ( from their website ) is available in the US, but their website was less than helpful fro getting details. Joannah. ~*~ Practice random acts of kindness, and senseless acts of beauty. ~*~ _ Sluggy.Net: The Sluggy Freelance Community! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: Firefly browncoat
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:54:30 -0500 From: E House [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Knight's Tale To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Shiny! =} Ob costume comment--Inara has some pretty darn spiffy outfits, and I made my husband a suede browncoat. Fellow browncoat here! Probably a better question for the f-costume list, but seeing as you brought it up: What pattern (if any) did you use for your husband's browncoat? I'm toying with making Zoey's outfit. -E House Allison T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Steam Iron source
This reminds me. I am apun my 3rd. steam iron. And each and every one of them had the problem with the button where you turn on or off for the steam. Seams that the plastic is glued to the button, and the steam destroys the glue, so that the button after some time gets useless. Anyone having the same problems? Bjarne - Original Message - From: Joannah Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Steam Iron source --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know where an American friend can buy a steam iron with a separate reservoir in the U.S. She says she has not been able to find one. Also, if there is a source, any recommendations as to brand. I have a Tefal bought here in the U.K. and it *loves* ironing linen (which is more than I do!) Suzi (who really needs to find a new job - I hate ironing, and I hate machining!!) Sorry, I can't help for a US source, but thank-you for the opinion about the Tefal steam iron - I've been eyeing them off over here in Australia. One day... I just went looking and found this link - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B8ZPN6/102-6325019-4567367?v=glancen=284507 DeLonghi also make one which I presume ( from their website ) is available in the US, but their website was less than helpful fro getting details. Joannah. ~*~ Practice random acts of kindness, and senseless acts of beauty. ~*~ _ Sluggy.Net: The Sluggy Freelance Community! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] mens 1770ies jackets
Hi, I have a danish pattern of a mans suit from the 1770ies. This is cut rather special, as it has a horisontal cut in the waistlevel. I have not seen this, untill lately i saw a similar jacket in Nordiska Museet in Stockholm. It was cut excactly the same way. My sources for english jackets, only comes from the available pattern cuts from the books. Has any english seen similar cuts used in german, or english, french jackets, or would this only be a regional style? Jacket looks the same, but the cut is unusual. Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Mouldy linen/dyed linen
I wrote a bit on this problem awhile back that I should probably add to the articles available on my webpage. But I'll post it here as well. WHEN COLORS RUN Quilters, who sew little bits of wildly different colored fabrics together a lot g, have LOTS of problems with fabric dyes running when they shouldn't. Here are the bits of condensed wisdom that I gathered in my quilting days and that I now swear by when I have these problems. First, I've heard fabric manufacturers say that most modern fabric dyes are designed to be washed in _warm_ water, and may be de-stabilized if they are washed in water that's too hot -- even once. (I'm not very good about this -- I tend to toss things in hot to be sure they have shrunk all they are going to before I cut into them.) A lot of people use salt and/or vinegar to set dye in fabric, but there are now much better things to use. The people I know who do a lot of dyeing say that vinegar and/or salt treatments *do* allow you the comfort of feeling you are doing *something* g -- and besides, they're cheap and you probably have them around the house already -- but they have very little effect on the dye. The advice to use salt or vinegar arose in the first place from a misunderstanding. Certain dyes need an acid environment (the vinegar) or a higher salt concentration when you are _FIRST_ applying the dye, in order to make it attach properly to the fibers. However adding these substances _later_ does no good, because the other conditions for getting the dye to attach are no longer present (lots of excess dye, heat, presence of mordants, etc.) For problems with color bleeding or running, I use a mild detergent called SYNTHROPOL that's used for washing fabric before dyeing to help remove sizing. It *also* will remove any loose dye that is not firmly bound to the fibers, and it is definitely the first thing to use on anything light colored that something else has run onto. It's often available from art stores that carry supplies for fabric painting, dyeing et cetera. I've bought a half-pint bottle in my local art supply store for around $5, and it only takes a couple of tablespoons per wash. Conversely, to set color, there is now a substance called *Retayne*, which seems to do a considerably better job at it than home remedies. There are small amounts of it -- or of something similar -- in Cheer detergent (with ColorGuard) and possibly others. After you have removed any excess dye with Synthropol, this is a good thing to use on many washable fabrics, because unlike vinegar and salt, it really *does* increase the stability of dye that is in the places you _want_ it to be. Rit Dye company has also packaged up both of these in packets containing about 2 Tablespoons (enough for 1 laundry load) and sells them for something like $3.50 per packet. The Synthropol is called Run-Away and the Retayne is called something I can't remember at the moment. These overpriced versions are better than nothing, and they're available this way in lots of fabric stores, but if you do much dyeing it's well worth searching out a better deal on price. Dharma Trading Co. http://www.dharmatrading.com carries both of these chemicals at much less expensive prices -- 4 ounces for less than the price of one package of the Rit version. (All the usual disclaimers apply -- test on a scrap of fabric first, et cetera.) * * * * * * * * There's one more thing. If you have a white item that color has accidentally run onto, and if bleaching and/or the things listed above haven't worked -- if you're willing to give it one more try, look for a substance called COLOR REMOVER. If you read the label, it will list an ingredient called hyposulfite. Run a sink full of VERY HOT water, put a little of this powder in (start with about a teaspoonful), mix well, and dip your item in. If nothing whatever has happened after a minute or so, take your item out, add another teaspoon of powder, and try again. If this is going to work, it usually starts to work right away. (Usually one box or packet of this stuff is designed to do one full wash load, so use your judgement on how much of it to add.) This is a type of bleach that the Edwardians used to use on all their whitest white lacy things, and like any bleach, unfortunately it does have a weakening effect on the fabric if used repeatedly -- it's why vintage laces and sheers sometimes sadly just disintegrate the first time you put them in water. Don't leave anything you care about in this stuff for more than about fifteen minutes -- if it's going to work at all, that will usually do it -- and be sure to rinse THOROUGHLY. But it *can* work miracles: I managed to save a bread cloth bordered in blackwork embroidery that a friend of mine did, when she bordered it with a commercial black binding that ran. There was *some* color loss from the black silk embroidery thread, which became a dark brownish black in
Re: [h-cost] Re: Firefly browncoat
- Original Message - From: A. Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fellow browncoat here! Probably a better question for the f-costume list, but seeing as you brought it up: What pattern (if any) did you use for your husband's browncoat? I'm toying with making Zoey's outfit. Yay, more browncoats! (And oh yeah, I'd forgotten there was an f-costume--I should subscribe to that.) I'm afraid I made my own pattern... couldn't find any that worked right. The closest I saw was the Simplicity Matrix coat pattern (5386) but it would have needed so much alteration that I decided not to bother. The basic construction is a single left right panel on the front, shaped side seams with slits starting about hip level, three shaped panels at the back below a yoke, a tuxedo collar, and wide cuffed sleeves with the seam along the back of the arm. If you buy about 5 different patterns, you could probably put them all together and get something, but oww! Here's pics, btw: http://www.formfunction.org/temp3/malcoatfront.jpg http://www.formfunction.org/temp3/malcoatback.jpg (looks a lot more rumpled in the photos, for some reason!) I made the mistake of using suede that was way too thick, and still haven't found the right clasp/buckle thingies for the front of it, grumble. Are you thinking of the neat leather vest thingy Zoey wears? Sounds like fun! I've been meaning to make the duster she wears in Train Job (while actually on the train) for a while, but haven't gotten around to it yet... I should do that someday. -E ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Mouldy linen/dyed linen
I've used it and had luck with it, but it weakens fabric (it says). Try acetone first. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diana Habra Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:14 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Mouldy linen/dyed linen I've read all the posts about the mouldy linen but what about a white linen that dye has bled into? I have heavy white linen and it has blue black stains on it from another fabric that was touching it. Rit makes something called color remover. I haven't used it myself but it may help your linen. Diana www.RenaissanceFabrics.net Everything for the Costumer Become the change you want to see in the world. --Ghandi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
