[Hampshire] Fwd: Free Live Video from ApacheCon Europe 2009

2009-03-25 Thread Andy Random

FYI, forwarded from another list.

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[Hampshire] iplayer and BBC licence fees (again)

2009-03-25 Thread Chris Dennis
Hello folks

I know this was discussed last year, but a non-TV-owning client has just 
asked me whether he needs a BBC licence to use iPlayer, and I was 
surprised to find this page at 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/channels/television/iplayer.shtml which 
implies that he does.  It says The TV programmes are free for UK 
licence fee payers, at high quality and with no advertising.

On the other hand, the iplayer terms and conditions at 
http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/about_iplayer/termscon make 
no mention of the BBC licence fee.

It's all rather confusing really.  Maybe the government should admit the 
the licence fee is really a tax that they expect everyone to pay, and 
give up the charade about the BBC being independent.

cheers

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Re: [Hampshire] iplayer and BBC licence fees (again)

2009-03-25 Thread Jon Fautley
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:39:09 +
Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Hello folks
 
 I know this was discussed last year, but a non-TV-owning client has
 just asked me whether he needs a BBC licence to use iPlayer, and I
 was surprised to find this page at 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/channels/television/iplayer.shtml which 
 implies that he does.  It says The TV programmes are free for UK 
 licence fee payers, at high quality and with no advertising.

You need a TV License to watch TV programmes as they're being broadcast
over the air - this means that you DON'T need one to watch iPlayer, but
you DO need one to watch the Live Streaming bit of iPlayer (because
it's simulcast). Same with any other method of simulcasting.

IANAL/etc. and the TV License fee people don't tend to listen to reason
(or the law, or their own guidelines, etc.) so if he's at all worried,
I'd just stump up the fee.

Cheers,

Jon

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Re: [Hampshire] Troubleshooting Memory Leak

2009-03-25 Thread Chris Simmonds
Hi Stephen,

  have a CentOS 5 server running nginx, httpd and a dozen or so
 mongrel instances.  Since this morning I've been experiencing a
 serious memory leak - about 2G in 2 hours, until the machine needs to
 be rebooted.  I've tried to answer the question what changed, and I
 can't think of anything on my side...
 
 In top, and related tools, I see no processes growing in size - all I
 see is the amount of memory available constantly reducing.
 
 The sort of thing I can think of that fits the evidence would be
 something like a process is being created and then dying without
 returning the memory to the system.
 
 However, I am unable to see the malloc's, and I can't currently think
 of a way to test this theory.
 
 I suspect systemtap may be the tool to use - anyone have experience of
 using it in this way, or have a recipe they could point me to?
 
 Any other ideas for troubleshooting and gathering info?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 S.

If you are not seeing the memory being allocated to user-space processes 
then it must be in the kernel: probably a miss-configured or buggy 
device driver. For a quick check, you can check using vmstat -m or 
just cat /proc/slabinfo and see which of the caches is being added to.

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Re: [Hampshire] iplayer and BBC licence fees (again)

2009-03-25 Thread Jacqui Caren
Jon Fautley wrote:
 IANAL/etc. and the TV License fee people don't tend to listen to reason
 (or the law, or their own guidelines, etc.) so if he's at all worried,
 I'd just stump up the fee.

I am one of the hold-outs. Our TV died over a year ago and we decided not to
renew the licence. TV licencing send automated nastygrams threating imminent
court action but some nice web sites break these letters down and explain
your rights. We had the Investigation officer around with his 'almost
police' uniform :-) but I think two snarling GSDs behind a child gate put
paid to any the idea of forcing entry.

IMHO you should *NOT* stump up a fee just because some private company
threatens you for no good reason.Hell 139.50 will buy a nice new linux PC!

Jacqui

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Re: [Hampshire] iplayer and BBC licence fees (again)

2009-03-25 Thread Jon Fautley
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:31:39 +
Jacqui Caren jacqui.ca...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 I am one of the hold-outs. Our TV died over a year ago and we decided
 not to renew the licence. TV licencing send automated nastygrams
 threating imminent court action but some nice web sites break these
 letters down and explain your rights. We had the Investigation
 officer around with his 'almost police' uniform :-) but I think two
 snarling GSDs behind a child gate put paid to any the idea of forcing
 entry.

Same here - I don't have a TV since I moved house about 18 months ago.
I have no intention of getting a TV, either.

I regularly get threatening letters from the TV Licensing people, which
get immediately binned :)

I'm yet to have a visit from the enforcement division - which is a
shame because I know exactly what I'm going to say to them if they ever
turn up ;)

 IMHO you should *NOT* stump up a fee just because some private company
 threatens you for no good reason.Hell 139.50 will buy a nice new
 linux PC!

No, I agree - not something I'd do :)

However, it would mean that the OP wouldn't need to worry about what he
was watching on iPlayer. I also suspect that depending on how you
phrase I watch iPlayer to an enforcement officer could open you up to
prosecution. Some people would consider £139.50 cheap for a quiet
life (but not me) ;)

Cheers,

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[Hampshire] Couple of questions about Lenny...

2009-03-25 Thread Vic

Hi All.

I don't have a Lenny machine running at the moment - could someone check a
couple of things for me, please?

1. Sound.

I'm assuming Lenny uses ALSA, and alsamixer is the way to control stuff.
Is that right? I'm trying to get a microphone turned on (and I don't yet
have access to the box).

2. Kernel config

Does Lenny leave the .config for the current kernel somewhere handy?

Thanks!

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Re: [Hampshire] Couple of questions about Lenny...

2009-03-25 Thread Alan Pope
2009/3/25 Vic l...@beer.org.uk:
 2. Kernel config

 Does Lenny leave the .config for the current kernel somewhere handy?


I thought all Debian-derived distros put it in /boot.

a...@bishop:~$ ls -l /boot/config-`uname -r`
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 67139 2008-02-10 23:17 /boot/config-2.6.18-6-xen-686

http://packages.debian.org/lenny/i386/linux-image-2.6.26-1-686/filelist
seems to concur.

/boot/System.map-2.6.26-1-686
/boot/config-2.6.26-1-686
/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686
..

Cheers,
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Re: [Hampshire] iplayer and BBC licence fees (again)

2009-03-25 Thread Stephen Rowles
 On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:31:39 +
 Jacqui Caren jacqui.ca...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 I am one of the hold-outs. Our TV died over a year ago and we decided
 not to renew the licence. TV licencing send automated nastygrams
 threating imminent court action but some nice web sites break these
 letters down and explain your rights. We had the Investigation
 officer around with his 'almost police' uniform :-) but I think two
 snarling GSDs behind a child gate put paid to any the idea of forcing
 entry.

 Same here - I don't have a TV since I moved house about 18 months ago.
 I have no intention of getting a TV, either.

 I regularly get threatening letters from the TV Licensing people, which
 get immediately binned :)

 I'm yet to have a visit from the enforcement division - which is a
 shame because I know exactly what I'm going to say to them if they ever
 turn up ;)

As I posted before, but I will post again just to add some balance. My
previous experience is that if you open the and read the letters, contact
the TV licensing people and explain that you either

a) don't have a TV or
b) have a TV but don't watch live TV (e.g. only watch DVD's or Videos and
it isn't connected to a TV aerial)

Then they accept it and leave you alone. No more wasted trees on
threatening letters and no investigation officers coming to your door.

Before we were married my wife had a TV video combo but didn't have an
aerial and just watched Videos from the Library / Purchases. She contacted
the TV licensing people and told them, no more letters or contact. Simple
as that.


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Re: [Hampshire] iplayer and BBC licence fees (again)

2009-03-25 Thread Stephen Rowles
 Hello folks

 I know this was discussed last year, but a non-TV-owning client has just
 asked me whether he needs a BBC licence to use iPlayer, and I was
 surprised to find this page at
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/channels/television/iplayer.shtml which
 implies that he does.  It says The TV programmes are free for UK
 licence fee payers, at high quality and with no advertising.

 On the other hand, the iplayer terms and conditions at
 http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/about_iplayer/termscon make
 no mention of the BBC licence fee.

 It's all rather confusing really.  Maybe the government should admit the
 the licence fee is really a tax that they expect everyone to pay, and
 give up the charade about the BBC being independent.

This link from the iPlayer site seems to sum it up quite nicely:

http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/about_iplayer/tvlicence

Catch-up: No license needed
Live online (simulcasting): License required.


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Re: [Hampshire] iplayer and BBC licence fees (again)

2009-03-25 Thread Vic

 contact
 the TV licensing people and explain that you either

 a) don't have a TV or
 b) have a TV but don't watch live TV (e.g. only watch DVD's or Videos and
 it isn't connected to a TV aerial)

 Then they accept it and leave you alone.

They don't seem so accepting of the We've got a licence explanation,
though.

I used to live in a flat with my other half. The TV licence was in her
name. I bought a STB, and filled in the appropriate documentation - cue
several threatening letters and phone calls. Even though they knew we were
in a flat, they wouldn't accept that the flat hadn't been sub-divided into
sub-flats, and thus need a licence each :-(

Then we moved. A few weeks later, one of their blokes is on the doorstep
insisting we were watching TV illegally, as we didn't have a licence. Yes
we do, was my simple reply. After a few minutes of back-and-forth, he
rang his office - who confirmed that we did indeed have a licence...

I wonder how many people with a less bellicose attitude than mine get
brow-beaten into paying for a licence they don't need?

Vic.


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Re: [Hampshire] iplayer and BBC licence fees (again)

2009-03-25 Thread Chris Dennis
Stephen Rowles wrote:
 Hello folks

 I know this was discussed last year, but a non-TV-owning client has just
 asked me whether he needs a BBC licence to use iPlayer, and I was
 surprised to find this page at
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/channels/television/iplayer.shtml which
 implies that he does.  It says The TV programmes are free for UK
 licence fee payers, at high quality and with no advertising.

 On the other hand, the iplayer terms and conditions at
 http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/about_iplayer/termscon make
 no mention of the BBC licence fee.

 It's all rather confusing really.  Maybe the government should admit the
 the licence fee is really a tax that they expect everyone to pay, and
 give up the charade about the BBC being independent.
 
 This link from the iPlayer site seems to sum it up quite nicely:
 
 http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/about_iplayer/tvlicence
 
 Catch-up: No license needed
 Live online (simulcasting): License required.
 
 
Thanks for that -- and to all those who replied.  I'm glad it provoked 
some lively discussion.

cheers

Chris

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Re: [Hampshire] iplayer and BBC licence fees (again)

2009-03-25 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 25 March 2009 14:57:10 Jon Fautley wrote:
 as they don't
 understand the prospect of purchasing TV receiving equipment and not
 using it yourself...

And they definitely don't understand the concept of Not Owning A Televison 
(shock, horror). 

Lisi

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Re: [Hampshire] iplayer and BBC licence fees (again)

2009-03-25 Thread Stephen Rowles
 On Wednesday 25 March 2009 13:45:52 Stephen Rowles wrote:
 As I posted before, but I will post again just to add some balance. My
 previous experience is that if you open the and read the letters,
 contact
 the TV licensing people and explain that you either

 a) don't have a TV or
 b) have a TV but don't watch live TV (e.g. only watch DVD's or Videos
 and
 it isn't connected to a TV aerial)

 Then they accept it and leave you alone. No more wasted trees on
 threatening letters and no investigation officers coming to your door.

 Neither my experience nor my husband's (when we lived separately before we
 were married).  We got endless threatening letters, to all of which we
 replied explaining that we didn't have a TV.  Finally I wrote and said
 that
 that was the last time I would reply to one of their nasty letters, the
 rest
 would be binned.  I binned everything else they sent me.  But no
 enforcement
 officer turned up - at least, not when I was in.  Admittedly, this was a
 while ago.


We must have been lucky, I was surprised it worked but I thought I should
mention that at least some times it does :).

I wonder what other legal options you could take, seems to me that the
constant letters when you have explained could be harassment. I wonder if
you could take out a restraining order or similar? Possibly it might even
now be an offence under the data protection act as they are incorrectly
processing your details.


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Re: [Hampshire] iplayer and BBC licence fees (again)

2009-03-25 Thread john lewis
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:04:35 - (GMT)
Vic l...@beer.org.uk wrote:

 
  contact
  the TV licensing people and explain that you either
 
  a) don't have a TV or
  b) have a TV but don't watch live TV (e.g. only watch DVD's or
  Videos and it isn't connected to a TV aerial)

I have arrived at the simple solution - get old!!

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Re: [Hampshire] blocking and non-blocking.

2009-03-25 Thread Bob Dunlop
On Wed, Mar 25 at 03:38, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I saw this text when reading about network sockets
 using non-blocking sockets will be faster than using blocking sockets
 
 Does anyone actually know why this is the case?

Because the author is a Windows programmer who doesn't know any better.

Seriously without more context it's difficult to know what they are
talking about but I suspect that it's the old myth that sequentially
polling interfaces is faster than blocking waiting for each in turn.
This might be true for Windows but Unix has had the select and/or poll
system calls that allow you to monitor any number of blocking interfaces
in parallel for over three decades.

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Re: [Hampshire] iplayer and BBC licence fees (again)

2009-03-25 Thread Isaac Close

--- On Wed, 25/3/09, john lewis johnle...@hantslug.org.uk wrote:
 
 I have arrived at the simple solution - get old!!
 

I'm doing my very best :)

A few years ago when i lived in a place called Basingstoke, I had threat 
letters almost every week.

After some time, i phoned the license department and told them i didn't have a 
TV and that i was quite annoyed and that i felt harassed.

I asked them if a license was needed to watch DVD's on my computer, they said 
as long as it had no way to receive a television signal.

No more letters while at that address.

In late 2005 I moved to London. Within 3 days a license 'enforcer' was on my 
doorstep. I explained that i didn't have a television, and that i'd called the 
license dept. from my previous address.

He asked to enter my house to check, i said no and asked him to make a record 
that i declined, and that i was not happy.

No more letters, even after moving house again.

Isaac.






  

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Re: [Hampshire] iplayer and BBC licence fees (again)

2009-03-25 Thread Clive Woodfine
2009/3/25 john lewis johnle...@hantslug.org.uk:
 On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:04:35 - (GMT)
 Vic l...@beer.org.uk wrote:


  contact
  the TV licensing people and explain that you either
 
  a) don't have a TV or
  b) have a TV but don't watch live TV (e.g. only watch DVD's or
  Videos and it isn't connected to a TV aerial)

 I have arrived at the simple solution - get old!!

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Me too. Unfortunately there are more negatives than positives.

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Re: [Hampshire] iplayer and BBC licence fees (again)

2009-03-25 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 25 March 2009 18:42:06 Clive Woodfine wrote:
 2009/3/25 john lewis johnle...@hantslug.org.uk:
  On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:04:35 - (GMT)
 
  Vic l...@beer.org.uk wrote:
   contact
   the TV licensing people and explain that you either
  
   a) don't have a TV or
   b) have a TV but don't watch live TV (e.g. only watch DVD's or
   Videos and it isn't connected to a TV aerial)
 
  I have arrived at the simple solution - get old!!
 
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 Me too. Unfortunately there are more negatives than positives.

It also works if it is your spouse who gets old. ;-)  

But I agree about the negatives, on his behalf.  I'm sure he would happily 
give away his free TV license if it would turn the clock back a bit!

Lisi


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Re: [Hampshire] iplayer and BBC licence fees (again)

2009-03-25 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 25 March 2009 20:02:13 Lisi wrote:
  license

Ouch :-(

licence

Lisi

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[Hampshire] [HARDWARE] 4-port PCI serial cards

2009-03-25 Thread Dominic Cleal
While in the search for a serial cable today, I discovered that I still
have some 4-port serial cards that are looking for a good home.

They came from Ebay a couple of years ago and are probably second hand,
but all look in very good condition and include the 4-port cables.  I
don't think I've ever tested them and so don't know the Linux
compatibility.

  4x Equinox SST-4/8P
  1x Impact Technologies (possibly FITWIN-PCI-TPV or FTPVPCI)

Let me know off-list of these are of any interest/use to somebody.

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