Re: [Hampshire] List Activity
On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 at 10:43, rmluglist2--- via Hampshire < hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > I guess I’m a bit of a dinosaur but I notice that this list (as have many > other LUG mailing lists I’ve subscribed to) has been quiet for quite a > while. I strongly suspect folks have moved onto social media (which I’ve > yet to really embrace properly) but if so, where can I find you all? > > > > Or is it that LUGs have been replaced by more subject specific forums? > > > There's probably a hundred reasons why Linux User Groups are less busy than they previously were. Including: (warning, generalisations coming) * Linux being easier to install and use these days, so less need for a support group * Web forums, stack exchange, and distro/app specific web properties have visitors with better depth of knowledge on specific issues * Many people grow up and have other activities which take their time (such as children) * The popularity of Arduino and Raspberry Pi means people are doing more hardware-related activities * Those doing anything with software, Linux is just an implementation detail. They're involved in communities further "up" the stack. * Older members of LUGs are aging out * Potential new younger audience don't really care for email (my teenage Son says "Email is just for resetting your password on websites") * Tools like Discord, Discourse, TikTok and Snapchat are where younger people hang out. There are active Linux communities on most of those. Probably other reasons too. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] libgtk-1.2.so.0
Hi Peter, On 14 May 2018 at 12:18, Peter Alefounder via Hampshire wrote: > How would I do that? I have found moonlite.rpm on an old SUSE 7.3 disk, but > not at all to my surprise, can't install it: Maybe it might be easier to get a newer version from their website, although they haven't done any updates for a while. I found a tarball on their download page at http://www.moonlight3d.eu/downloads.html I downloaded the 64-bit tarball on my Ubuntu 18.04 system running Unity. I unpacked the tarball and ran moonlite.sh in the download folder and it worked first time.. Here's what it looks like. https://imgur.com/a/zBCfBmG Maybe give that a try. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Dynamic DNS
On 14 September 2015 at 12:30, Chris Dennis wrote: > Which is the best dynamic DNS service these days? Free would be nice, but I > don't mind paying a small fee. > http://freedns.afraid.org/ I've used that for some time now and had zero issues. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Fwd: [GLLUG] OggCamp 2015
-- Forwarded message -- From: Peter Cannon Date: 12 August 2015 at 12:10 Subject: [GLLUG] OggCamp 2015 To: GLLUG Mailing List Its here again! OggCamp 2015 John Moores University Liverpool, UK 30th October to 1st November http://oggcamp.org WTF is it about? http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/oggcamp-explored-inside-the-open-source-event-1113952 Tickets are free or pay what you like. Come and meet like minded people and get drunk with them. \o/ Please share this email with other LUG's you're members of. If they moan about spam, blame me. :-) -- Regards Peter Cannon IRC: dick_turpin @ freenode.net https://twitter.com/dick_turpin http://www.cannon-linux.co.uk https://plus.google.com/100694334141523232451/posts Podcast: http://tdtrs.co.uk "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." ___ GLLUG mailing list gl...@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/gllug -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Advice on specs for a gaming machine
On 12 August 2015 at 09:26, Gordon Scott wrote: > I must be getting old or something. > I struggle with the concept of buying a toy for an 18yo. > When I reached 16, I was told to get a job and start paying rent. > From then on, everything I needed I had to buy for myself. "Hoop & stick" was a lot less expensive hobby back then, right? Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Advice on specs for a gaming machine
On 11 August 2015 at 16:56, Roger Munford wrote: > My son has listed his dream machine for 1080p gaming, (maybe 1440p) in > particular The Witcher 3, FFXIV, GTA V, WoW and Dishonored 2 on its release. > > I have no need of a machine costing more than £200 and am in no position to > evaluate his choices. My eyes moisten at the thought of a Raspberry Pi 2. > I was wondering if anybody with experience in these matters could advise. I > just have a feeling that this is overkill. > Given what he wants to play (I assume he's not really young because some of those are quite 'adult' games - GTA V specifically - however, not telling you how to parent :D ) it looks like a fine setup. I'm coveting that video card for a start! You could go lower, but would get terrible frame rates at high detail on those resolutions. Nice setup, I'm envious :) Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Website dead, ever coming back?
On 23 June 2015 at 21:50, Alan Pope wrote: > Neither of these work:- > > http://hants.lug.org.uk/ > http://www.hantslug.org.uk/ > > Who's looking after it these days? I would look that up on the website... Seems I was too impatient! It finally loaded some 44 seconds later. http://imgur.com/vDFstIA (top right) Still, someone might want to take a look at it. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Website dead, ever coming back?
Neither of these work:- http://hants.lug.org.uk/ http://www.hantslug.org.uk/ Who's looking after it these days? I would look that up on the website... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Patch your Linux systems ("Ghost" vulnerability CVE-2015-0235)
On 29 January 2015 at 15:36, Gordon Scott wrote: > On Thu, 2015-01-29 at 15:25 +, David Anderson wrote: >> Looks like it hasn't affected all distributions. I had updates for >> Centos and Raspbian, but nothing for Mint >> > > As it's in glibc, that seems to me pretty unlikely. > > More likely is either that Mint was already fixed, or Mint have yet > still to do the fix. > Modern Ubuntu (and thus Mint) was unaffected. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Amazon.co.uk down.
On 28 November 2014 at 13:13, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: > Its black Friday, and guess what Amazon.co.uk web site is down. > > Showing the following text: > Not here it isn't. Works fine. Expect it was a transient thing. Many UK retailers are implementing wait/queue systems (which seems mad) probably so they don't run into these issues. Amazon have infrastructure coming out of their wazoo so I can't imagine this is a long term issue (for them). Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Diagram tool for network wiring?
On 27 November 2014 at 20:37, Chris Dennis wrote: > Can anyone suggest a linuxy tool for drawing a diagram of a local area > network? > > I want to be able to represent cables, sockets, switches, computers etc. > http://asciiflow.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Open Source CRM
On 13 August 2014 14:44, Edward Beckmann wrote: > I'm a tad confused - a search shows Full Circle Podcast (your email address) > as a sideshoot of Full Circle Magazine, which supports the Ubuntu community. > If that is you guys then I would have thought you have all the information > in house somewhere. If that's not you, then there needs to be a discussion > about one of you changing your names to reduce confusion. > If I sign up to the list as "Microsoft Security " would you make similar assumptions? *boggle* Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OFF TOPIC] Electrician recommendation
Hi, On 4 July 2014 13:28, Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote: > I need to acquire the services of an electrician to provide power to an > outbuilding. Can anyone recommend anyone? > I can recommend http://lselectrical.co.uk/ - a guy called Simon, very good. He's in Farnborough. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Ubuntu MATE Remix Alpha
Hi all, One of the MATE developers - Martin Wimpress (of this LUG) - has (with a tiny bit of help) spun up an Ubuntu MATE Remix. It's Ubuntu, but with a hint of 2010 ;) You can get the details here, do feel free to test and fire feedback at us via the bug reporting link on the site. It's based off Ubuntu 14.10 which is due out later in the year. If all goes well we may backport to 14.04 and produce an LTS type release too. http://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-remix-alpha1/ Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] XBMC ISO
On 30 May 2014 00:05, Michael Pavling wrote: > Raspberry PIs do run XBMC but they really are rather slow (even > rendering and navigating through the menus was too slow for me for regular > use). Much better to get it running on an Atom net-top machine at the least. > +1 I found the Pi not well suited to media playing apps. Playing the media was okay ish, not perfect, but navigating the menus was painful. I have an Acer Aspire Revo 3600 which has an Atom CPU and nVidia GPU, running a stripped down Linux distro and XBMC. Works a treat with an external remote control. The only thing it doesn't do is power down/up when I need it. You can pick them up on ebay. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On 28 May 2014 11:23, Anton Piatek wrote: > It certainly seems to be easy enough to start a flame war > > On 28 May 2014 10:20, Tony Wood wrote: >> On 27/05/14 15:19, Owain Clarke wrote: >>> On 27/05/14 12:44, Joseph Bennie wrote: > > or you know... you could just get on with life and not worry about > the little things :) > many more fields of issues in the world that need more time and > attention brought to them! +1 >>> >>> So I completely failed to start a vicious flame war :( >> >> One of the things I like best about our list is the paucity of flaming. > > (Does this count as top or bottom posting?) > When a list has precious else to talk about (I guess Linux works for everyone most of the time now), and the members have been around a long time the flames are easier to start. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On 27 May 2014 13:37, Freaky Clown wrote: > or you know... you could just get on with life and not worry about the > little things :) What, like this? https://twitter.com/__Freakyclown__/status/471250625335164928 :) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Disk copy/duplication for upgrade.
On 5 May 2014 15:27, Andy Random wrote: > I've used Clonezilla before to do this kind of thing on a desktop where I > can have both drives connected at once, but I'm not sure the best way to do > this on a laptop where only one disk can be connected at a time. > Why can only one be connected at a time? Can you not stick the new one in an external enclosure, or some USB to SATA/IDE converter? > Any suggestions? > I used an external adapter, booted from a Live USB stick and just used gparted. It has a copy/paste feature where you just pick up partitions from one disk and paste them onto another disk. Works rather well modulo USB transfer speeds. The only gotcha I had doing this was needing to manually install grub, but that's not beyond the wit of man. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] DDR2-800 RAM
On 13 April 2014 20:48, Dr A. J. Trickett wrote: > >> On 13 April 2014 20:07, Dr A. J. Trickett wrote: >> > On the off chance, does anyone have 2G DD2-800 unbuffered/non-EDO RAM >> > that they are not using? >> >> I have 1xOCZ2N9002GK (which is 2x1GB sticks) . Any use? > > Yes. > Super, let me know your address via mail and I'll post them asap. A small donation to HR Trust would be great if you can. http://www.hrtrust.org/page/langerhans-cell-histiocytosis-in-children.html Thanks, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] DDR2-800 RAM
Hi Adam, On 13 April 2014 20:07, Dr A. J. Trickett wrote: > On the off chance, does anyone have 2G DD2-800 unbuffered/non-EDO RAM that > they are not using? > I have 1xOCZ2N9002GK (which is 2x1GB sticks) . Any use? Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] ORG Hampshire
Thought this might be of interested to Hampshire residents. http://www.meetup.com/ORG-Hampshire There's a meet-up in Winchester on Tuesday.. http://www.meetup.com/ORG-Hampshire/events/173967952/ Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Kernel suspend problem with i915 module
Hi Peter, On 20 January 2014 15:48, Peter Salisbury wrote: > 3.2 (12.04 precise) YES > 3.6.3 (12.10 quantal) YES > 3.9.0 (13.04 raring) YES > 3.9.0 (13.10 saucy, 7.May.15) YES > 3.9.5 (saucy, 7.Jun.13) YES > 3.9.9 (saucy, 3.Jul.13) YES > --- > 3.10-rc1 (saucy, 13.May.13) NO > 3.10.0 (saucy, 30.Jun.13) NO > 3.11 (saucy) NO [current kernel] > > What is the best thing to do next? File a bug. ubuntu-bug linux Then report your findings so far. It's possible the bug may already have been reported. There seem to be some existing ones in this area both on launchpad and elsewhere. Ping us the bug number and I'll ask one of the kernel guys to take a look. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] 'Killed' response when running program from command-line
On 16 January 2014 19:30, Robin Wilson wrote: > robintw@test:~/Py6S/6S/6SV1.1$ ./sixsV1.1 > Killed > > Does anyone have any idea what I can do to try and work out what's happening? > strace it? strace ./sixsV1.1 Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Suggested Distro for an original Acer Aspire one?
On 13 January 2014 11:58, Jan Henkins wrote: > +1 for Lubuntu! > Interestingly I discovered only last night that LXDE (upon which Lubuntu builds) is moving from GTK to Qt. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Suggested Distro for an original Acer Aspire one?
On 12 January 2014 17:29, Andy Random wrote: > I'd like a GUI of some kind on it rather than just a console, but I have no > interest in flashy graphic or effects, just a basic windowing system. > > In the past I've used Xubuntu or Crunchbang for this kind of thing, but I've > not really played with either recently and don't know how well they will > play with the old hardware or whether something better has come along for > giving new life to aging kit. > Crunchbang is pretty good and lean. I have used it on low power machines including one around the same (indeed lower) spec than yours. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] upcoming meetings
On 19 December 2013 10:45, Chris Dennis wrote: > Not really a jest -- a serious plea for people to update the website. > The two are not mutually exclusive. It's entirely possible to create a meeting page on a website then a event in a social media site and link to said page. The website contains the details, the social media side is merely raising awareness. >> It may be that you don't >> actually want any new people to turn up in which case fair enough. I >> just wanted to figure out what the motivation for having meetings and >> promoting them on the list and website was if that's the case. > > Now you're just being bitter and twisted. > I'm bitter that the LUG has fallen apart in this department, yes. We used to have a functioning website which could be edited easily by anyone. Now we don't, that's a regression. > As I recall, the wiki was spoilt by huge amounts of spam and rogue > registrations. Not when it was abusemod wiki, no. There were some spam edits and they were easily reverted by code *we* created to make it work *for* *us*. The wiki was then pointlessly converted to Moin and the people responsible walked away. At that point it all fell apart, and rather than go back to what was working perfectly fine before (abusemod) we moved forward to a situation where basically nobody edits the site. The wiki worked. I know I am not alone in holding this opinion. > And yet nobody ever adds anything. The reasons must be something other than > technical ones. > Perhaps the content people want to edit isn't the content you want people to edit? I don't necessarily want to create new blog pages in Wordpress, but update the old and orphaned pages which were fine but out of date. The pages which have existed for many years but are now non-editable due to the ridiculous and pointless multiple migrations the website has had. They are now unlikely to ever get fixed which makes motivation for maintaining other parts of the site low to zero. Just my frustrated 2p. Take it as bitter and twisted if you like, what do I know. Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] HantsLug Facebook was Hampshire Digest, Vol 86, Issue 11
On 19 December 2013 15:02, Chris. Aubrey-Smith wrote: > I, too, will have nothing to do with so-called social media sites. I have an > e-mail address; that is enough. > My point was to find new blood. It was not intended to suggest that Facebook would supplant the website, mailing list, IRC channel, pub or other "meatspace" activities. Merely a method by which for the LUG to promote itself, its activities and use the tools at our disposal to get people to even know the LUG exists and then perhaps take part. We have haemorrhaged people for years and very little has been done to undo that. IMHO. Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] upcoming meetings
On 18 December 2013 18:54, Chris Dennis wrote: >> Out of curiosity, does HantsLUG have a Facebook page, a event could be >> created for it? > > > No, we have a proper website at hantslug.org.uk! > Not sure if this is meant in jest? Are you seriously suggesting that we don't need to promote our meetings outside a website which probably gets near zero new visitors every month? Like it or not Facebook, Twitter, Google Plus and others have the opportunity for us to reach new people. It may be that you don't actually want any new people to turn up in which case fair enough. I just wanted to figure out what the motivation for having meetings and promoting them on the list and website was if that's the case. > I've added a calendar entry for the February meeting, but you (James, and > any other HantsLUG member) are more than welcome to add posts or pages about > these events, or anything else vaguely related to Linux. > I'm still frustrated that we used to have a wiki which worked fine, and was then comprehensively broken by successive parties to the point where nobody edits it at all. Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] REMINDER: Surrey LUG Bring-a-box meeting: 23rd November 2013, RedHat, Farnborough
On 23 November 2013 18:12, Robert Longstaff wrote: > Hello. Thanks to Dominic for hosting us today and to Sam and Igor for their > presentations which were very well received. We had a good meeting with > around 19 people attending, including at least two newbies. > Yes, thank you Dominic. I really appreciate that you take time out on your Saturday to host us at Red Hat. I arrived fashionably late, during the TokuDB talk, and found it very interesting despite my personal lack of interest in all things databases :) Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Code Pub Meet 28/11 Reading
Hi all, I know some of you are interested in Code Club so I thought I'd pass on details of "Code Pub" which is a meet up of Code Club Volunteers, Potential Volunteers, teachers and other interested parties. It's in Reading at the Nag's Head, 5 Russell St, RG1 7XD on 28th November from 6pm to 9pm. if you're interested in going along and chatting about teaching kids to code, then follow this link.. https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/code-pub-reading-meet-up-tickets-8975795847 Maybe see you there. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Ebooks, was: disk types and layout on a new box
On 16 October 2013 18:07, Paul Tansom wrote: > That looks like fun, I almost wish I'd got two now! Thinking about it I'm sure > I saw a link to a virtualised Windows 3.1 on a Nook Simple Touch. I didn't > take > enough interest to find out whether it was genuine though! I sort of assumed > that the limited hardware would have made not worth the effort to root and > mess > around with - well not for me anyway, I have way too much on the go. That > said, > if you can somebody no doubt will! > That would be Taras... https://twitter.com/tarasyoung/status/344570620396306433/photo/1 Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Ebooks, was: disk types and layout on a new box
On 15 October 2013 23:54, Paul Tansom wrote: > I'm suspecting the one I was referring to isn't the same device as it isn't > capable of running the Play store (as far as I know) http://www.babblingengineer.com/how-to/how-i-turned-my-nook-into-an-e-reader-monster/ > - it is the basic Simple > Touch E Ink display one. That I just connected up via USB and copied the files > across into the appropriate folder (My Files and then one of Books, Documents, > Magazines or Newspapers as appropriate). I've changed the screen saver in a > similar way (although it was fun converting the images to a suitable size and > limited greyscale!). > Ah excellent, hadn't tried that, thanks! > The only issue I have is that it doesn't like the wireless N on my router and > I've had to (temporarily I hope) drop the speed down to G :( More of an > annoyance > is the fact that the multiple user profiles isn't exactly sophicticated - they > are just adult or child, common pin for all adults and none for children. You > can then restrict what apps can be run, but any config is shared between > profiles - i.e. if you install Facebook, Twitter, Google+, etc. every profile > logs in with the same account :( Oh, another annoyance is the proprietary > connector for charging and data (I need to get a spare just in case as they > are > only available while stocks last). > Stock android is okay at splitting users up. I have a Nexus 7 which has an account for each of us. The kids check their email and play games on it, keeping their own scores. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] disk types and layout on a new box
On 15 October 2013 23:12, Paul Tansom wrote: > I think some of the Asus netbooks had built in batteries. Thankfully the one I > have did not otherwise I would have had to scrap it (the battery started > getting short on capacity and then burst through the plastic case!). It still > works, and I may get round to getting a new battery at some point (although I > need to either speed up XP - spit - or get a decent Linux install running on > it > first). My HP netbook is even older and that is still going strong thanks to a > new higher capacity battery (although to be fair the original is still doing > pretty well given that it is 5 years old and been used on a daily basis - much > better than my old Dell laptop where they told me a year was good going and I > should now by another one for £120 to last the next year!!!). > I'm not too bothered about replacing sealed in batteries. I suspect I don't keep devices as long as you do though. My iPhone 4S is probably the only device I'd be bothered about if the battery got annoyingly short life span. However I'm pretty sure I can walk into one of those phone shops and get it swapped out for not much. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Ebooks, was: disk types and layout on a new box
On 15 October 2013 23:12, Paul Tansom wrote: > Yes, I have the same concern with the inability to change batteries in tablets > and some phones & laptops. I have a Nook ebook reader and I get slightly > annoyed at the thought that I will have to scrap it when the battery gives up > - > not a major issue given that it only cost me £29 and I've only used it to read > either the freely downloadable books, or DRM free ones (Humble Book Bundles). > How did you copy content over to the device? I have the same one and futzed around and enabled the Play store, Amazon store etc and installed the Kindle app as I already had some content in it. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] disk types and layout on a new box
On 15 October 2013 16:14, Alex Dicks wrote: > Both the 4GB and 16GB SSDs failed on my old Eee 900, but in both cases I > could still read most of the files on them. I had backups anyway, but > no recent work was lost. The first I knew of the problems both times > was SMART errors caught by Disk Utility in Ubuntu. (Once one had failed > I trusted the other much less!) > The SSDs in the Eee 701/900 were quite early generation devices, and had pretty terrible performance and reliability. I had one die too, the 4GB one in a 900 died, so I re-installed the OS only on the 16GB SSD, avoiding the busted one. Tis one of the reasons I don't like Ultrabooks™ (or thin laptops as we should call them now Intel has given up on the ultrabook brand), the fact that a lot of the components are soldered on. The 240GB disk in my X220 is getting quite full and I suspect at some point I'll buy a 500+GB SSD and migrate over. Can't do that with most ultrabooks, pretty though they are. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Steam
On 7 October 2013 23:42, Paul Tansom wrote: > ** Alan Pope [2013-10-07 19:51]: >> :) I'm popeydc on steam, feel free to add me too :) > > Wakey, wakey, already done! > That was aimed at everyone else :) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Steam
Hi Paul, On 7 October 2013 18:03, Paul Tansom wrote: > Is there anyone out there using Steam on Linux? I've finally put my Humble > Bundle Steam keys on there and am having a good play. I didn't realise how > many > games I had, but some of the independent games are much more to my liking than > the big budget ones. > Yeah, the Humble Bundles have greatly increased my game collection for very low cost. Great value for money. > What I haven't managed to get working is Big Picture mode, and I was wondering > if anyone else had. Yup, on 64-bit Ubuntu 13.10 on Intel i7 CPU and nVidia GPU with the binary driver.. I also installed steam-login which allows you to login directly to big picture mode without starting a desktop.Works well. https://github.com/thor27/steam-login/ Like this:- http://popey.com/~alan/2013-10-07-194754_1920x1080_scrot.png > For reference this is > Ubuntu 12.04 with dual AMD/ATI Radeon graphics cards. > What if you disable one card? > As an aside, if anyone wants to link up on there I'm whaletales. It would be > nice to be eligable for the Steam Box trial, and having managed to get Bit > Picture working on the Windows boot with a controller I just need a few more > friends to move from no chance to miniscule chance - all together now... aw! > :) > :) I'm popeydc on steam, feel free to add me too :) Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] disk types and layout on a new box
Hi Gordon, On 27 September 2013 14:05, Gordon Scott wrote: > On reliability, though, I've seen more than a few posts from people who've > had 'brand' SSD drives replaced several times in startlingly quick > succession because they've failed yet again. I'm not sure why that should > be as flash itself is usually pretty reliable. SSDs (etc.) have redundancy > to circumvent errors, and indeed to deal with the strange fact that flash, > unlike most semiconductors, actually _does_ wear out. > I've seen reports of SSDs failing too. I currently have 7 from various manufacturers in place in different machines. Not had a single one fail yet. I've had my fair share of rust go bad. I realise my anecdotal evidence is meaningless, but so long as you have good backups a failed SSD is about the same inconvenience as a failed hard disk. Oh, and I always have swap, even on SSD. KiB Mem: 8056628 total, 6771356 used, 1285272 free,98768 buffers KiB Swap: 8267772 total, 2461452 used, 5806320 free, 1116208 cached Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] disk types and layout on a new box
On 27 September 2013 10:01, Gordon Scott wrote: > Flash drives aren't _necessarily_ either faster or more reliable than > spinning rust. > I suspect when Adam said "Flash" he meant "SSD". Which are almost always faster than spinning rust. Unless you have a really expensive rusty drive or a really cheap and terrible SSD. Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] disk types and layout on a new box
Hi Ally, On 27 September 2013 09:49, Ally Biggs wrote: > Al just out of curiosity what kind of back up or redundancy do you have in > place? Need to get a few ideas myself. I have an HP Microserver with 12x2TB disks (4 internal, 8 external in an external array) which amounts to one big btrfs volume. It runs rsnapshot every few hours to pull from my laptop, desktop and various online servers. So I have regular backups of everything I care about. I have a Windows partition which I don't bother backing up because it's only used for gaming, so all the content is "in the cloud". Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] disk types and layout on a new box
Hi Adam, On 27 September 2013 08:58, Dr A. J. Trickett wrote: > The "bulk" files will probably be VM disk images (multi GB), photos (many-many > multi MB), some video files (iPlayer and DVB recordings), ISO files (not that > many but some). Most of these will be written once and read now and then but > not change a lot - the VM files will change the most when in use. > > Any thoughts on combinations, and file system layout? > On my desktop I went for SSD for / and 1TB spinning rust for /home. I found the 120GB / wasn't used well so I moves some VMs and that makes for much better use of space, with the speed improvement too. I just don't worry about space anymore now rust is cheap. On my Thinkpad laptop I put two SSDs in (one conventional, one mSATA) and dual boot. When I go back to rust on my other laptop or family computer it feels painful after getting used to SATA :( Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Want to borrow CF adapter
Hullo! I have a bit of a pickle. My iRiver iHP-140 (A.K.A. H140) MP3 player has some files on that I need to get off. It is refusing to mount via USB for some reason I can't fathom. I have taken the device apart and have the hard disk out of it, but no way to connect it to my computer. I need to borrow a 1.8" CF to USB/IDE/something adapter. The disk is a toshiba mk4004gah which won't fit in a standard CF adapter because the rails which guide/hold the CF card I've looked on Amazon and some other stores, and they all have really long lead times. Anyone got one I could borrow? Being in Farnborough double-bonus :) Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] something like get_iplayer
On 10 September 2013 15:53, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: > Did you copy the plugins to the "~/.get_flash_videos/plugins" folder. > cp -a get-flash-videos/lib/FlashVideo/Site/* ~/.get_flash_videos/plugins > Nope. Where's that documented? Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] something like get_iplayer
On 10 September 2013 15:07, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: > I recently found something called get_flash_videos > Get it from: > git clone https://github.com/monsieurvideo/get-flash-videos.git > > It works by you going to the bbc, itv, channel4 web sites, go to their > "player" or "catchup" sites, and then just copy the url onto the command > line. Nice idea. It failed on BBC, C4 and ITV for me. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [Surrey] untended consequences of Nokia buyout
On 7 September 2013 12:58, Joseph Bennie wrote: > Distro = Debian 7 (iso 7.0.1, but app installed today via gnome package > manager) > App = Monkey Studio IDE(top search for QT4 Integrated Development > Environment) > package name = monkey studio-1.9.0.2-2 (32 bit) > License = unknown in repo …. -> app implies LGPL 2.1 + > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/pku6te151r9htft/QTLicense.png Ah qt4. Retro! :D -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [Surrey] untended consequences of Nokia buyout
On 7 September 2013 10:11, Joseph Bennie wrote: > The about & Licence page on the IDE hasn't been updated, but having followed > the nokia links they redirect to Digia. Full details are on the about-us > page. > Odd. Which IDE on what distro is that? It's updated here in qtcreator. http://popey.com/~alan/qtc_about.png Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu Edge crowdfunding drive misses target
On 26 August 2013 13:28, Andy Random wrote: > Yes, and I think that is part of the problem with the Edge, without support > from the mainstream providers it will struggle to sell in sufficient > numbers. > The Edge wouldn't have sold in any numbers. The *only* way to get one was to back the campaign to the relevant level. There was no intention to continue selling the Edge through retail channels (or otherwise) after the campaign finished. > It doesn't matter if the device is great value for money, if it isn't > affordable to the man in the street it probably won't sell in volume :( > The Edge needed 40K people to back it to the relevant level to gain enough money to actually make it. The intention was that there might be another crowd-funding campaign "Edge 2" a year or so later, with the original backers of the Edge maybe having first refusal for upgrade, or having input on changes for the next generation. It seemed like a great idea to me, allowing people to actually have input on the next gen device. But it was not to be. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu Edge crowdfunding drive misses target
On 25 August 2013 22:12, Tim B wrote: > Phone+laptop+desktop. That's a very big claim, and not one I think can be > supported, given the widely varied use cases. > While the use case is important for the user, it doesn't define the device. A laptop is still a laptop whether it can run Crysis / AutoCad / Minecraft / SAP or not. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu Edge crowdfunding drive misses target
On 25 August 2013 14:46, Simon Whitehead wrote: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23793457 > Is any mobile phone worth $625, $675, $695 or $725. > I paid £429 for my phone nearly two years ago. I get a lot of use out of it. I personally hoped the Edge was going to be my next phone. It has the design, spec and software I want. Shame it didn't hit the target. > Crowdsourcing is this a great way of market testing or letting the mad run > the madhouse?! > I have backed numerous crowdfunding campaigns. These range from a 3D printer to charities, clothing, books, films, and various hardware projects. I find them an exciting way to back a project. A by-product of all crowdfunding campaigns (not just the Edge) is to test the market. If you can't get funding for your project then perhaps there's not enough market for it, or maybe you mismanaged the project, or perhaps there's some other reason. Many have speculated on why the Edge failed to get funding, but I don't think anyone has one single concrete answer. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] How to get your foot in the door?
Hi Ally, On 19 August 2013 16:02, Ally Biggs wrote: > How do you start a career in Linux? are there any volunteering opportunities > out there? > Or opportunities to shadow and learn? I'm passionate about Open Source Tech > but just need guidance and the opportunity to shine. > The way it worked for me was to volunteer on an open source project. Specifically Ubuntu. I spent a lot of time answering support questions, advocating the use of Ubuntu and generally acting like a bit of a fanboy. Over time I held some leadership positions in the project including being on the Community Council. After a few years I decided I needed to refocus and so stepped down from some of my volunteer positions. At that point I got a pm on IRC from a well known spaceman and (in short) was asked to go and work for Canonical on Ubuntu full time. I realise this is my specific scenario, but the key thing I learned from this is that putting in a bit of effort in your own time, to projects which need the help, may be rewarded later. In addition, if you don't get recruited by the sponsor of the project at least there's a body of (public) work you can point another future employer at. So essentially I'd say go look for Open Source projects which you're interested in, and who have gaps which need filling. That might be as simple as testing their app/tool/library regularly, advocating the use of it, giving talks at LUGs about a topic, and updating documentation or tutorials. Or it could be more technical such as submitting patches and security audits. Hope that helps, Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Recommendations sought for system upgrade
On 13 August 2013 15:04, Peter B. wrote: > Cheap case - zoostorm jobby with all parts included except OS > > http://www.ebuyer.com/store/Computer/cat/Desktop-PC > +1 for zoostorm. I have an Intel i7 based one as my desktop and has worked just fine. > U could probably reuse your power supply as well add in an extra > cd/dvd/bluray - but alot of cases come with one - and I would b suprised if > u still use that tech anymore. > I'd be surprised if you could re-use a PSU of that age in a modern PC. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Portsmouth Linux Users Group meeting
Good morning Leszek! On 19 July 2013 10:36, Leszek Kobiernicki 1 wrote: > Don't send me stuff > > I unsubscribed some time ago > You clearly didn't. :) However it's easy to unsubscribe. Just click this link and follow the unsubscribe options at the bottom. http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > I don't want to have to put up with being bored > > Especially by this person, who has a mania for being in charge of everything > Not sure on what planet you think this is an acceptable way to communicate with other humans. Shut the door on the way out. Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Enabling Secure Boot
Hi Stephen, On 9 July 2013 12:02, Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote: > I've got Fedora 18 install media on a USB stick, but when I try to boot > the installer I get the message: "Secure boot not enabled"/ > > That's not an error message, it's an informational message to tell you secure boot has not been enabled on the device. This may be considered a Good Thing (TM). Is Fedora not booting past that message? Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Fwd: [GLLUG] CentOS Dojo and Barbecue - Aldershot, UK on 12th July 2013
Thought this might be of interest to Hants/Surrey people as it's local (to some). Cheers, Al. -- Forwarded message -- From: Karanbir Singh Date: 18 June 2013 15:02 Subject: [GLLUG] CentOS Dojo and Barbecue - Aldershot, UK on 12th July 2013 To: gl...@mailman.lug.org.uk Hi, Crossposting to the GLLUG list as well, there might be some interest amongst members here. Details on the day: http://wiki.centos.org/Events/Dojo/Aldershot2013 Registration URL : http://centosdojoaldershot.eventbrite.co.uk/# The final speaker list is now online, and we still have early bird tickets going for £10 each. While I am trying to find recording equipment, the best way to really benefit from the event is to be there. People speaking include: David Scott, from Citrix EU, on clouds with openstack, xen and ceph Jon Crowie, from Etsy.com, on building CentOS livecd's for syadmin work Justin Clift, from Gluster.org, on getting started with infiniband Karanbir Singh, from CentOS.org on the who/why/what/how of CentOS Mark Sutton, fron catn.com on Creating CentOS images for OpenStack Richard Jones, from the libvirt team on virtualisation and virt tools http://wiki.centos.org/Events/Dojo/Aldershot2013 has the complete session, venue, barbeque and ale details. Keep in mind that just like the previous Dojo's we organised, this too, is a not for profit event. The registration price just about covers the tshirts and goodies handed out to everyone who attends. The Venue, hospitality, barbeque and beer are all sponsored by the guys at fubra.com See you there! - KB ___ GLLUG mailing list gl...@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/gllug -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Linux compatible cameras
On 16 June 2013 10:46, Keith Edmunds wrote: > On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 10:38:38 +0100, a...@popey.com said: > > > I have a Logitech Pro 9000 which "Just Works (TM)". > > Thanks Alan, but that's a webcam - I'm looking for an ordinary camera. > > D'oh! Misread, sorry. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Linux compatible cameras
Hi Keith, On 16 June 2013 10:12, Keith Edmunds wrote: > I'm looking for a simple-to-use camera that is Linux compatible. It's for > my mum, who is in her 70s, so point, click is about as complex as it needs > to be. Her PC runs Linux, supported by yours truly from 165 miles away, so > ideally she would connect the camera to the PC with a USB cable and it > would Just Work. > > I have a Logitech Pro 9000 which "Just Works (TM)". Never had any problems with it in Skype & Google Hangouts. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Accessing genealogy data on PDF files
On 13/05/13 21:45, john lewis wrote: On Mon, 13 May 2013 21:14:11 +0100 Alan Pope wrote: This doesn't look like a problem on your system, but the fact that on sid the 64-bit build of libc6 is currently slightly ahead of the 32-bit build. You can see this here:- http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libc6 2.17-2: amd64 armhf powerpc s390 s390x 2.17-1: armel i386 sparc Ok, so what this is telling me is that you have a 64-bit system which has libc6:amd64 2.17-2 but you want to pull in the latest libc6:i386 to satisfy the dependency for installing the other 32-bit packages (such as libgtk2.0-0:i386) which you need for Acrobat. I see two "solutions" (well there are many solutions, but the two most straightforward):- 1. Wait for whatever issue is holding up the 32-bit build of 2.17-2 of libc6. According to this the libc6 2.17-2 has built so you should be good to install acrobat as you wanted. http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libc6 2.17-2: amd64 armel armhf i386 mips powerpc s390 s390x 2.17-1: sparc Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Accessing genealogy data on PDF files
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:11:17PM +0100, john lewis wrote: > For quite a few years I've used (non-free) acroread to access these > files quite simply because the free readers (evince, xpdf, et al) just > aint good enough. > I hear that! I have recently had to install Acrobat on a machine because wifey has to maintain some pdf files provided by education boards and no other PDF reader works just right, so I feel your pain! > > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of adobereader-enu: > > adobereader-enu depends on libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4); however: > > Package libgtk2.0-0:i386 is not installed. > > > > dpkg: error processing adobereader-enu (--install): > > dependency problems - leaving unconfigured > > Processing triggers for man-db ... > > Errors were encountered while processing: > > adobereader-enu > > and it isn't possible to install libgtk2.0-0:i386 as trying to do so > requires installation of 55 other packages but that throws up another > error > > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > > libc6 : Breaks: libc6:i386 (!= 2.17-2) but 2.17-1 is to be installed. > > libc6:i386 : Breaks: libc6 (!= 2.17-1) but 2.17-2 is installed. > This doesn't look like a problem on your system, but the fact that on sid the 64-bit build of libc6 is currently slightly ahead of the 32-bit build. You can see this here:- http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libc6 2.17-2: amd64 armhf powerpc s390 s390x 2.17-1: armel i386 sparc Ok, so what this is telling me is that you have a 64-bit system which has libc6:amd64 2.17-2 but you want to pull in the latest libc6:i386 to satisfy the dependency for installing the other 32-bit packages (such as libgtk2.0-0:i386) which you need for Acrobat. I see two "solutions" (well there are many solutions, but the two most straightforward):- 1. Wait for whatever issue is holding up the 32-bit build of 2.17-2 of libc6. 2. Downgrade libc6:amd64 to 2.17-1 so you can then install libc6:i386 thus:- apt-get install libc6:amd64=2.17-1 You can also just "simulate" this operation safely with:- apt-get install -s libc6:amd64=2.17-1 Chances are some other package or two may need to be downgraded also. It's only a minor bump so theoretically it should be much to be downgraded, and you can do them all in one go with:- apt-get install libc6:amd64=2.17-1 foo:amd64=1.2.3 bar:amd64=4.5.6 etc (replacing foo and bar with package names and 1.2.3 and 4.5.6 with the version numbers apt asks for). Again, use -s to simulate to see if it will come up with a sane solution. Once you've done that you'll have libc6:amd64 on 2.17-1 and can happily install libc6:i386 version 2.17-1 too. Note: if you "apt-get upgrade" or "dist-upgrade" (or use equivalent tools like aptitude or synaptic to effect the same thing) you will end up upgrading libc6:amd64 to 2.17-2, or in fact it may just hold that back because you also need libc6:i386 to be held back for the acrobat dependency to fulfil. > It isn't the first time I've had problems using 32 bit libs on a 64 bit > system but in the past I've been able to find a solution. I lost the 32 > bit libs by a bit of careless clicking whilst doing an update ;-( > Now we're in a new multiarch world you should be able to install individual 32-bit libraries as required. The skew you're seeing is the pitfall of running sid I fear. Hope that helps. Al. signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Asus Motherboard/Linux compatibility
On 25/04/13 21:46, Ian Park wrote: I thought I'd try picking brains about the compatibility of a motherboard I'm thinking of using with Linux Mint. The MB is the Asus Rampage IV Extreme [1], which brags about its compatibility with Windows 8. I don't want to commit to pretty substantial expense in building a PC based on this MB, only to find that it gives me all sorts of grief when I try to install Linux, because of UEFI. Modern Linux distros have supported UEFI for some time. Shouldn't be a problem. Other things might be, but that won't (depending on distro you choose of course) Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Wiki broken?
On 24/04/13 19:38, Chris Dennis wrote: How embarrassing! I was sure I'd sent that just to Alan. I've changed the password, and I'll try to tell Alan the new one a bit more quietly. Thanks for pointing that out, Paul. That made my evening :) -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Wiki broken?
On 24/04/13 15:12, Chris Dennis wrote: Yes, the old wiki still requires manual intervention (by me) to create accounts for editing pages. I'm more than happy to do that for people who ask. Consider yourself asked. If anyone can tell me how to improve that situation, I'd love to hear from them. As it is, when I enable new users on the wiki, it gets loads of spambot types registering and messing it all up. Shame. I don't recall that happening back when it was AbUseMod :( We used to get drive by edits which were easily reverted, but people could easily edit the content. Seems we've gone backwards from the original intent of having a wiki really. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Wiki broken?
On 09/11/12 18:39, Chris Dennis wrote: On 09/11/12 18:23, Tim Brocklehurst wrote: On 05/11/12 15:46, Chris Dennis wrote: So, this is the plan. I've re-enabled new accounts, which means that anyone can create an account. BUT, only users who are members of the 'editors' group can change things. If you want to be an editor, create an account, and let me know your user name by sending an email to webmas...@hantslug.org.uk. Hmmm... Less that 24 hours later, about 50 random user names have appeared in the wiki's list of users. No pages have been hacked, but it's a bit of a worry... Could I suggest an account on application-to-the-webmaster system? I'd be surprised if there will be more than 10 contributors? Yes, that's fine by me. I'll turn off the 'new account' feature, and add some blurb about applying for an account. Resurrecting a 5 month old thread.. I'd still like to edit a page on the wiki. Alternatively I'll move the content somewhere else where I can edit it, which makes me sad. What's the solution to this? -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Tmux - the terminal multiplexer
On 16/04/13 14:56, Philip Stubbs wrote: I don't use screen or tmux bare anymore, but I use byobu. Certainly makes life easy for the occasional user. Can be blinged up with unicode too: http://ifdeflinux.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/byobu-bling-with-unicode-custom.html Yeah, me too. I only used bare screen at my previous job where they ran Ye Olde Red Hat Enterprise Linux. I really like having byobu with the status bar at the bottom. Will find time to unicode enable it soon. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Android tablet for children?
Hi Peter, I was somewhat kidding :) On 16/04/13 19:01, Peter B. wrote: As I say -- it is not live yet. Well, it is, given people can get to it. You might want to hide the site somehow until it's ready. Otherwise people might get a poor impression of it before it's ready. The site is already being spidered by search engines. This is my first venture into the business world so I am noob but you cannot purchase atm as no payment options have been implemented as just getting bank and paypal to talk. =o( pain in the rectum! especially with these hosts I have - slowest email service in the world. The site is indeed incredibly slow. Good luck! Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Android tablet for children?
On 16/04/13 16:40, Peter B. wrote: Have just started a Web site at gadget branch.Com will b going live soon. Can I please pre-order 100 of the following item at the advertised price of £0.00. :) http://gadgetbranch.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=60 -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [Surrey] REMINDER: Surrey LUG Bring-a-box meeting: 13th April 2013, Sirus Corporation, Addlestone
On 11/04/13 20:47, Robert Longstaff wrote: We have one definite talk (MySQL HA) and one provisional (Tiny Tiny RSS) and there are always slots for more! I'll bring along a tablet running Ubuntu Touch and can demo some of the stuff we've done and our plans. I'll not arrive till afternoon (2pm ish) as wifey has arranged for me to get my hair cut at 1pm :D Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Android tablet for children?
On 27/03/13 17:58, Imran Chaudhry wrote: There's a number of "geek dads" among us so does anyone have recommendations for an Android tablet for kids? Based on my own experience I would not recommend any Android tablets for kids^Wanyone. That said I have a Nexus 7 which has multiple user profiles and is thus used by all four of us. Clare uses it now and then (if it's within reach and no other computers are) for email, Facebook & web. I use it now and then for Netflix, web, email and the odd game. The kids use it for playing games, my eldest also uses it for emailing friends and browsing Amazon. I have heard the cheaper tablets have oddities such as wifi being impaired by a metal back cover. Quality is a concern. Some of the cheapo ones are real stinkers in terms of reliability, build, battery life, touch sensitivity and software upgrades. One Android specific frustration my kids (and I) have had is the soft buttons. It's incredibly easy to accidentally close an app, switch apps, back out of an app or bring up Google Now when you're in the middle of an intense game of some kind. This is especially apparent with young kids who haven't mastered finger control as much, but I've done it too mid game and it made me want to bury the tablet in the garden, dig it up, shoot it, burn it, chop it up and burn it again. I was going to go for a 2nd hand Nubi 2 [0] which although Android-based has a "walled garden" of apps to filter out the bad stuff. You can achieve a similar thing by installing apps for them and not giving them access to the play store at all. Or, you know, buy an iPad. I am also considering a Nexus 7 which with protective covers can be made more kid-friendly, my concern though is that Play store is more "wild" making it easier for the little 'uns to make in-app purchases and be exposed to dodgy ads. They can't do in app "purchases" if you don't put a credit card on their account, or give them credit in Google Play vouchers. They can of course install free stuff which may bombard them with adverts if you link a Google account to their Nexus 7 login (which you have to if you want them to have any apps at all). Having watched my two (aged 6 and 9) use the Nexus 7 I've been pretty appalled at nagging popups that many apps in the Google Play store use to get you to install other stuff. I've logged in as them on it and see a plethora of additional crappy apps which were 'recommended' by the apps they already had. There are some awful adverts too which are made to look like Facebook like pages or system dialogs. It's like browsing Geocities in Internet Explorer with no advert blocking from 10 years ago. Conversely I also have an iPhone and an iPad and have _no_ problem with them play with those whatsoever as they just don't have the same kind of nagging crappy apps, or if they do, we haven't found them. They also don't have the accidental swipe issues that Android has. There are also minimal accessories for Android tablets, even the officially blessed by Google "Nexus" branded ones. It's 5 months since the Nexus 10 came out and there's still no official cover for it. I visited a phone shop last week and the Nexus 4 had exactly one cover. There's more choice for the Nexus 7, and I've got the official rubbery Asus one which is okay, but nowhere near as nice as the original iPad cover from ~4 years ago but cost the same! Get an iPad :) Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Ethernet Over Mains
On 26/03/13 15:29, Dr A. J. Trickett wrote: I've been running Devolo 200AV units for a while and recently asked abut their 500AV+ units. I bought a pair of 500AVs and they are noticably faster and use less electricity apparently and even have a power pass-through. Any chance you can do a benchmark with something like iperf? Here's iperf between my laptop and another machine over the 200AV units. an@deep-thought:~$ iperf -s Server listening on TCP port 5001 TCP window size: 85.3 KByte (default) [ 4] local 192.168.1.107 port 5001 connected with 192.168.1.2 port 53108 [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth [ 4] 0.0-10.4 sec 73.9 MBytes 59.6 Mbits/sec [ 5] local 192.168.1.107 port 5001 connected with 192.168.1.2 port 53109 [ 5] 0.0-10.4 sec 73.8 MBytes 59.4 Mbits/sec [ 4] local 192.168.1.107 port 5001 connected with 192.168.1.2 port 53112 [ 4] 0.0-10.5 sec 70.4 MBytes 56.1 Mbits/sec .. compared with two machines over GbE .. [ 5] local 192.168.1.107 port 5001 connected with 192.168.1.112 port 44354 [ 5] 0.0-10.0 sec 1.09 GBytes 938 Mbits/sec Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Upgrade problem to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
On 23/03/13 16:58, Gordon Scott wrote: Which video card do you have? Can you:- lspci -vn | pastebinit http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640513/ That's your dpkg from earlier.. I guess the files on paste... expire after some time and get purged? Or they get deleted en masse when the box breaks (as happened recently).. -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Upgrade problem to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
On 23/03/13 16:24, Gordon Scott wrote: Then let us have the links so we can see the output please. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640512/ Ah my bad. When you said "proprietary driver" I daftly assumed nvidia, not ATI. Seems you have an ATI card. I don't know a lot about ATI cards but lets see what we can do. Which video card do you have? Can you:- lspci -vn | pastebinit http://paste.ubuntu.com/5640513/ We can ignore that. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Upgrade problem to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
On 23/03/13 12:25, Gordon Scott wrote: On Sat, 2013-03-23 at 11:48 +, Alan Pope wrote: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ That installs nothing and suggests a couple of three that could be removed. Ok, that's good. I would backup and remove your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and let X figure out your screen setup automagically, then perhaps use nvidia-settings to fiddle about with the layout. Hm, I didn't know one could do that. It's made no difference, though :-( Can you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere like http://paste.ubuntu.com/ ? There's a handy package called "pastebinit" which can help:- sudo apt-get install pastebinit pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log Also see if you have the relavent nvidia packages installed:- dpkg -l nvidia* | pastebinit Then let us have the links so we can see the output please. BTW, I've just felt obliged to get Windows-8 and my criticisms of Unity usability are as nothing compared to Win-8. That's absolutely appalling! Not used it myself, but I hear conflicting reports on it. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Upgrade problem to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
On 23/03/13 11:31, Gordon Scott wrote: The only desktop I can use is Unity 3D. Everything else comes up with a desktop, with my own desktop stuff, but with no menus at all. No toolbar, no shut-down, nothing. (I switch out of X to a raw terminal to shut down). Sometimes people install/remove stuff over the life of their system which results in one of the critical packages for operation to get removed. You can ensure that everything that should be installed is installed with this pair of commands (not the caret):- sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ I would run that and observe if any packages get _installed_ as they were missing which may lead to some of the issues you're seeing. Also, my multiple screens won't now operate independently. I would backup and remove your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and let X figure out your screen setup automagically, then perhaps use nvidia-settings to fiddle about with the layout. Something I see as the X session starts after login may give clues to this. I get a pop-up before X is fully running saying: -8<- : unable to launch "EDITOR=vi" X session --- "EDITOR=vi" not found; falling back to default session. -8<- That looks like an incorrectly formatted line in your x session startup somewhere? The multi-screens issue may be a symptom of X fallback? When I try to set non-mirrored, it says something like "requested size 3840x1080 is larger that 1920x1920". Both screens are 1920x1080. Removing xorg.conf will probably work this out. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Advice please: disk bottle neck
On 07/03/13 22:44, Peter Salisbury wrote: PS I have a USB adapter on order from China for a 32Gig UDMA CF card I have. Thought I might try it as an SSD! I put a real SSD in my Revo. Well, I put an SSD in basically every machine I own :) It makes a tremendous difference. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] HP Ubuntu All-in-one
On 06/03/13 12:56, Samuel Penn wrote: Shame it's rubbish. .. for your use cases. 20″ HD+ widescreen WLED (1600 x 900) Laptops are bad enough, but why did anything think that such a low resolution on a desktop was a good idea? Facebook doesn't need a higher resolution. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] The future of Linux / career advice
On 15/02/13 12:19, Peter Alefounder wrote: Most people use their computers for games. Back that up :) I suspect the vast majority of Windows installs are not used for games, unless you count Oracle, Outlook, Word, Excel and Powerpoint to be intricate multi-player games :) Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Steam
On 15/02/13 08:07, Sean Gibbins wrote: Coming in on the periphery of the Linux vs. Microsoft desktop debate is the news that Steam is now available for Linux: http://store.steampowered.com/sale/linux_release/ Yeah, it's been in closed then open beta since October. I've been playing with it a bit. Has anybody out there installed and played anything yet? I bought 9 games yesterday for ~22 quid! The sale is the best time to pick up a few bargains even if you're not going to play it right away. And finally, am I right in thinking there's a bit of a kerfuffle kicking off with some of the big game developers and Microsoft recently that has led some of them [the developers] to threaten to go all Linux on Microsoft's posterior? Maybe this is the thin end of that wedge... Not really. Gabe from Valve rather publicly took some pot-shots at Microsoft about Windows 8 and their new app store which clearly competes with Steam. Valve have been encouraging developers to port their games over to Linux. It helps that the 3D development tool "Unity 3D" (not to be confused with Ubuntu Unity) have added an option to Unity 4 which makes it easy to create Linux games. They can even load their Windows games and spit out a Linux binary very easily. The Steam beta started off with ~25 games and we're now at ~100. That's not bad growth in just a few months. Compare that to the Mac on Steam which has ~550 games and Windows which has ~6300. Steam on the Mac launched in May 2010. It's clear though that Steam on the Linux desktop is a stepping-stone to a "SteamBox" console that Valve are preparing, and will run Linux out of the box. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] The future of Linux / career advice
On 14/02/13 15:06, j...@osml.eu wrote: ...and it's getting even easier, ne' the Chromebook. (groan issues from the collective group) But it's true. It Linux Jim, but not as we know it. A large percentage of the MS Windows using public have waken up to the fact that they don't need a 8-core i7, with a 2-gig video card, and SSD, and 16 gigs of RAM, and a big screened retina display to browse the web and read their e-mail. The tablet boom-bubble has showed many another way. Microsoft no longer owns the end-user experience: think iPads, smartPhones, BYOD at work. My wife teaches at a local school, and frequently gets homework sent to her via email. One of the students sent her an attachment incorrectly, somehow attaching something called a .gdoc file. I was enlisted to help her attach the document correctly and took a guess and typed up a tech reply to her asking if it was a chromebook, turned out it was. She described it as "a new laptop my parents bought where all the documents are stored somewhere else". Interesting to see the youth of today using Linux, even if they don't know it :) Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] The future of Linux / career advice
On 14/02/13 09:52, Chris Malton wrote: I know the feeling, my CV is part-compiled by LaTeX to PDF - and unfortunately this is incompatible with many people. I got told yesterday that I couldn't apply for a job because my CV wasn't in Word format. and I was applying for a job as a Linux System Administrator. Other companies take PDFs and strip all formatting, as I discovered to my detriment The agencies have databases in which they keep their candidates. Those databases often only have one import option - "Word Doc". So while it's easy to point the finger and laugh or berate the agency for requesting a Word Doc, they're just using the tools they have. The vast majority of people applying for jobs are okay with this and will submit in that format. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] The future of Linux / career advice
Hi Ally, On 13/02/13 16:31, Ally Biggs wrote: Do you guys ever think there will be a day that Linux will be as popular as Windows in the desktop market. Given Windows has ~90%+ market share, I fail to see how mathematically any other distro can be "as popular" as Windows without Windows disappearing completely. Won't happen. However if your question was "will there be a day when Linux has comparable market share to Windows on the desktop" I'd probably say no, but be hopeful that we can get a better chunk of the market than we currently have. Making the transition from Windows to Linux was challenging initially I probably will continue to learn Linux (Redhat, Debian) for server related tasks and use Win 7 for client tasks. I recently (1.5 years ago) installed Ubuntu for a retired chap who had only ever used Windows. He requested it because he was sick of viruses and slow-downs of Windows. I printed out a getting started guide and allocated ~2 hours to walk him through the basics of Ubuntu. I'd no sooner finished my tea when he said "ok, I think I have got it all" and I left. I've so far had two support requests from him, which was to clarify a webcam issue with Skype and to confirm that he should be installing updates when prompted to. He's still using it. One persons nightmare is another persons dream. The thing which bothers me though about Linux ok it's free and if you have the skills you can do great things but why isn't it being adopted more for everyday use. Also why don't the developers standardise a distribution for the home user i.e same package manager and packages. Because history, ego, momentum and coprorate requirements. The problem with desktop Linux I think is when the shit hits the fan and something needs to be configured or a driver needs to be added your average user isn't going to want to sit typing commands in a terminal or spending hours finding the solution into a community. Same goes for Windows. It's a giant misconception that "Windows = works", "Linux = OMG! It's broken, I need a nerd!". Ordinary people who use Windows have just the same anxiety about their systems as ordinary people who use Linux. They will speak to a techy nerd at work, or someone in their family for support. Same goes for a non-expert using a smartphone (of any ilk) for the first time. I still get requests for Windows support from my father in law, some years after I told him I didn't want to support it anymore. Some of these issues (poor wifi connection, bad printer support, video driver issues) are _exactly_ the same issues that we have on Linux. The way to fix the issue differs, but it's still the same warm body wearing a geeky t-shirt who fixes it, irrespective of the OS or hardware involved. The other problem I found is the community alot of people expect you to be some kind of command line genius who is capable of reciting the whole encyclopaedia of man pages. So when you ask for help or guidance you often get a dismissive response. Those people are dicks. Avoid them. :) Documentation is horrendous aswell especially if you are making the transition from Windows. Pick up a starting to learn Linux book and a couple of pages in you end up with the worlds worst headache. Depends on the book. This is a good one. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ubuntu-Made-Easy-Project-Based-Introduction/dp/1593274254/ref=sr_1_1 So how did you guys learn Linux? Installed it and played with it for oh, uhm 15 years or so. Still not an expert. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Podcasting Mics
On 12/02/13 10:59, Paul Tansom wrote: I'm looking at getting a decent mic to use, not so much for podcasting, but I figured screencasting is close enough and so I thought I'd see what people recommended. At the moment I'm looking at something along the lines of a Samson Go Mic [1] or a Blue Snowball [2] as a basic starter for 10. Any commends or suggestions welcome :) I have a blue snowball on my desk which I use for skype/mumble/hangouts and the odd bit of audio recording for screencasting bug reports. Happy to bring it over to your office so you can have a play with it and see how it sounds. Or you could call me on Skype and hear it :) Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] SSD Laptop HDD as drop-in replacement?
On 11/02/13 18:41, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: My anecdotal evidence of two SSDs is 50/50 - that one (64GB) has lasted 8 months and is still alive. The other (128GB) lasted 2 months and "died a horrid lethal death of the fatal kind that one doesn't recover from" - i.e. it spews file-system and ATA errors constantly into the syslog/dmesg. I would have claimed on the warranty but I'd thrown the receipt away. I guess it's a case of YMMV. My anecdotal evidence is based on a range of 6 SSDs from Corsair, OCZ, Intel, and Cruical. None have failed yet. I backup daily though, just in case :) Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Getting 3D Acceleration/Compiz working with Debian Squeeze VirtualBox guest
On 08/02/13 21:55, Imran Chaudhry wrote: Thanks Popey. I am using the upstream VBox and upstream guest additions with this. Today I tried Ubuntu 12.10 with the same Windows host and 3D acceleration appears to work (although very slowly). My quick test was to click the desktop switcher a few times which is "3D animated". lsmod | grep vboxvideo Is the kernel module loaded? If not it will fall back to LLVM and be slow. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Car based entertainment
On 08/02/13 23:15, LUG wrote: We are going to be driving to Scotland to visit the in-laws in summer and accompanying us will be our (by then) year old son. He has recently discovered the joy of The Tweenies and other CBeebies based entertainment (or rather, we have discovered that said programs will keep him quiet long enough for us to make his next meal and/or tidy up the previous one) so I have started investigating if there is a fairly economical way of playing programs in the car with the hope of making the 8+ hour journey slightly more pleasant for all of us. Ahh happy days. I used to take a netbook on holiday with us, full of CBeebies stuff to keep the kids entertained while mummy & daddy got ready to go out in the evening :) I have seen the screens attached to the back of headrests in cars and I'm not sure if these are portable DVD players or portable MP4 type players. They can be both. Some just take an SD card or USB drive full of media and you choose what to play via an on screen display. Firstly, his car seat is rear-facing so this would need to be something that would attach to the head-rest on the back seat, which is a different shape to the front head rests. Some of the ones I've seen come with various adjustable straps so you can probably mount it on the back headrest somehow. Secondly, both of the above devices are obviously very limited in their functionality which got me on to thinking about buying a tablet so that we could at least use it for other purposes after the journey. Cheap (i.e. non-Apple) tablets tend to have terrible speakers. If your car stereo has an input jack you could maybe run a simple cable from the headphone out of the tablet to the input of the stereo and pan it to the rear speakers. If not, what are people's general recommendations for reasonably cheap tablets (by that I mean something under or around £100)? https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_7_16gb If you're going to use it for more than just this car journey then I wouldn't get a really cheapo one. The Nexus 7 is out of budget (currently £159) but you might be able to pick up an 8GB one cheaper as they no longer sell them so some people might be offloading them to upgrade. A quick look on ebay brings up several Blackberry Playbooks going for about £80 and they look to have a pretty good spec but the number for sale and the low price makes me slightly suspicious. The benefit the playbook has it the speakers are on the front/side. The Nexus 7 (and some others) have them on the back. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Getting 3D Acceleration/Compiz working with Debian Squeeze VirtualBox guest
On 07/02/13 17:03, Imran Chaudhry wrote: I'm having a spot of bother getting 3D hardware acceleration and Compiz working in my Debian Squeeze Virtualbox guest. Whatever I try it defaults to software rendering. I have obvious things set such as "3D acceleration" checked in the guest settings (Display > Video > Extended Features). I'd use VirtualBox from upstream and the guest additions from them, not from the repo. We recently had a few bugs fixed in upstream VBox which fix the 3D acceleration stuff. I'm using 4.2.6 here and it works with Ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10. Ubuntu 13.04 is currently broken in VirtualBox in other ways we're working on getting fixed Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Hostnames
On 29/01/13 15:25, Leo wrote: from the computer called hostname1 it won't go looking on the internet for hostname2 (as it currently does)? My home router seems to do this for me:- alan@deep-thought:~$ ping wopr.local PING wopr.local (192.168.1.123) 56(84) bytes of data. alan@deep-thought:~$ ping hactar.local PING hactar.local (192.168.1.105) 56(84) bytes of data. Not sure what I did to make it happen. Clearly DD-WRT is awesome :) Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Promoting LUG meets via social networking
On 28/01/13 22:24, Michael Daffin wrote: I wonder if it is worth setting up a webpage that users can request a topic for a talk/demo and possibly where other users can register topics they are willing to talk about. This seems like the ideal way to get people engaging via social media. Putting out a tweet/fb/G+ post which specifically asks for feedback such as "What talks shall we give next month?" or "What would you like to talk about at the LUG?" will likely garner responses. These could be filtered, collated and posted on the website or mailing list. Using the mailing list or website to request new topics falls into the "preaching to the converted" I was hoping to work around with my initial mail at the start of the thread. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Promoting LUG meets via social networking
On 28/01/13 13:40, Imran Chaudhry wrote: I'm thinking about an intro to Perl talk - maybe at next LUG meet family commitments allowing. Adam Trickett did a talk on Perl at the LUG some years back. It was videotaped and put online. It was the single most popular talk watched on the HantsLUG Google Video channel. It's still available to download on archive.org. http://archive.org/details/HampshireLinuxUserGroupIntroductiontoPerlThefriendlyprogramminglanguage Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Promoting LUG meets via social networking
On 28/01/13 10:36, john lewis wrote: This would in itself be off-putting to a complete newcomer so perhaps, if it hasn't already been done, there should be a way of breaking the ice for some one new. Some years back we started having a "front desk" at the LUG meeting where people would be greeted. We would then direct them to someone who could help with specific queries or just show them around. Does this still happen at the Southampton meets (I haven't been for ages). Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Promoting LUG meets via social networking
On 28/01/13 06:36, Alan Pope wrote: I also wanted to get it discussed on list before we go off half-cocked creating random stuff all over the place which may not ever get used, and will make it _harder_ not easier for people to find out what's going on. This probably came out more harsh than I'd intended, sorry. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Promoting LUG meets via social networking
On 27/01/13 21:59, Michael Daffin wrote: I have created a google+ community for HantsLUG<https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/105960359007623736682>. If anyone wants admin privileges just ask and I will give you them. I wasn't suggesting we have a G+ community. G+ Communities are pretty much forums, pre-authed with a Google account ID. I was thinking more of having a page (which is a separate thing in G+ parlance) which people could subscribe to and get updates when meetings are happening. I also wanted to get it discussed on list before we go off half-cocked creating random stuff all over the place which may not ever get used, and will make it _harder_ not easier for people to find out what's going on. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Promoting LUG meets via social networking
On 27/01/13 23:48, Lisi wrote: I would have though that talks for the complete beginner would have a very limited audience at LUG meetings, where the majority of people present are experienced users. Hence partly why I suggested that we should be using social media to get new people in. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Promoting LUG meets via social networking
Hullo, It struck me today that the LUG doesn't have any kind of active presence on social networks (such as Twitter, Facebook and Google+). I have seen other LUGs promote their meetings (and not much else) via these networks and it struck me as a good way to reach a wider audience than the website and mailing list currently do. I wondered if it might be worth setting up a presence on each of the above networks and have some people responsible for posting when the LUG has a meeting. To be clear, this isn't to replace the mailing list or website, and isn't targeting _you_ because you are already on the list. It's to target potential new people. Opinions / flames... Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Best hardware for HTPC
On 07/01/13 13:59, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: Regarding Blu-Ray, I just find it frustrating. MakeMKV can be used, but it uses illegal blu ray keys, so you might as well just use illegal blu ray keys anyway. Google the VideoLan project to find blu ray keys that permit you to play Blu-Ray. What law is being broken by having or distributing these "illegal" keys? Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Dropbox alternative
On 19/12/12 21:28, Dr A. J. Trickett wrote: A friend is looking for something like Dropbox but it can't be Dropbox as it's apparently banned in China. He basically need to sync data on a server in the UK and one in China so people can easily read and write to their local server and have it synced with the other one, and ideally access it on the move - web access. Clients are mostly Windows but the servers could be Linux. He is willing to pay but free is also good! I found waula to be painfully slow and resource intensive. Spideroak is okay but has a confusing GUI IMO. I would recommend Ubuntu One but I am clearly biassed there. Sparkleshare just hit 1.0 http://sparkleshare.org/ Given from your description it's server to server sync not multiple client sync I'd look at Unison. http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu spy program
On 11/12/12 22:06, Imran Chaudhry wrote: Thanks Anton for that welcome injection of anti-tinfoil hat serum :-) I don't use Ubuntu but would have no problem with the shopping lens stuff. As I understand it Canonical Ltd is expanding quickly and so they need to think about income because - shock, horror - they are a business and have wages and bills to pay. Yes, Canonical is a company which has outgoings including developer payroll and infrastructure costs used by Ubuntu, flavours and many derivatives (hello Mint users!). A significant chunk of the many millions of pounds spent on developing Ubuntu (and keeping Canonical afloat) comes from the deep pockets of one guy, Mark Shuttleworth. This is flat out not a sustainable approach and never has been seen as one. We've always been looking for ways to generate revenue, and already have many in place. But that's only part of the story. The goal of the dash in Unity is to be a central place where users can search for *anything*. This is very similar to the start menu in Windows 7, Spotlight on the Mac, and the search page on iOS. All of those platforms implemented a simple "search everything which is important to me" feature before we did. What we're trying to do is make it easy for users to find the stuff that's important to them right from their desktop. In the past that was limited to searching documents & files, applications, music, video both online and offline. The ability to search iPlayer, Google Docs and Amazon Video were also added. Then came the shopping lens. The shopping lens adds "more suggestions" to the search in the dash. At the moment in the very first release it's limited to a restricted set of stores. Most people see Amazon, but it's possible for us to add any number of additional stores in the future. The shopping lens has been contentious for a number of reasons. One of the main causes of this contention is that it landed very late in the development cycle of 12.10. It should have landed nice and early so it got lots of visibility, testing, discussion and debugging before we froze 12.10 and pushed it out the door at the end of October. Unfortunately it wasn't developed until very late, and was pushed into the distro in quite a rush. We've learned a lot from that and have changed a number of processes to ensure it doesn't happen again. We were really surprised when the protests kicked off about the shopping lens. We very rapidly developed an imperfect fix to enable people to switch the lenses online features off, and have been monitoring the bug reports and feedback we're getting. Of course this doesn't address the specifics of what people are objecting to, but I think enough has been written about that. What I would say is that 12.10 is a post-LTS release, where we often introduce new "crack". In subsequent releases we improve upon that as we head towards the next LTS release. Users who are unhappy with the feature have numerous options including staying on 12.04, uninstalling the lens, using a different desktop or using a different distro altogether. I don't see the shopping lens going away in 13.04, I don't see it being made opt-in and I don't see us ripping it out of 12.10. I find it incredibly disappointing but unsurprising that someone like RMS takes to the airwaves to tell people to shun us. He's entitled to his opinion though, as are you and I. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu spy program
On 12/12/12 08:34, Tony Whitmore wrote: On 2012-12-12 01:44, Paul Stimpson wrote: Isaac Close wrote: It may be possible to remove this with : # sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping Which worked for my ubuntu 12.10 box. Interestingly, if you open the Ubuntu Software Centre and search for "lens" the shopping lens doesn't show up to remove. If one wished to be uncharitable, one might jump to conclusions... You would be being uncharitable. Whilst you can of course remove the package via the command line as Isaac says, there is now a GUI to disable the shopping lens: http://askubuntu.com/questions/192269/how-can-i-remove-amazon-search-results-from-the-dash Searching for packages by their name is weirdly hit and miss in the Software Centre IME. It does show up in the Ubuntu Software Centre (USC). However not in the default view because by default we don't show "Technical items". USC was designed to filter out technical items by default - such as libraries and meta packages, so that users don't get a view flooded with things which aren't "Apps". If a user searches for "lens" they will see some additional lenses they can install, and there's a "show technical items" at the bottom of the window which will reveal the hidden things. No, it's not hidden to prevent people un-installing it, it's hidden because it's a technical item, in the same way as searching for "jpeg" doesn't show "libjpeg-dev" by default. On my system if I search for "jpeg" I see ~30 applications, games and tools. If I "Show technical items" this balloons to an unwieldy list of nearly 500 things. If you like unwieldy, Synaptic package manager is your friend I suspect. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Laptop screens
On 10/12/12 14:51, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: Which laptops have good screens. Apple ones. I would like something that is greater than 720 pixels high, but still 15.6inch if possible. http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook_pro 2880x1800 fits your "greater than 720 pixels" requirement and 15". Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] [OT] Come Dine With Me
I note that the Come Dine With Me [0] people are looking for people in our area. I know a few people in the group enjoy the programme, maybe an opportunity to go on it. Taken from their Facebook [1] page:- "Think you could flip, fry and fricassee your way to £1000? Now's your chance! We're currently casting in the following areas: Basingstoke and Andover, Cardiff, St. Helens and Harrogate - to apply, email c...@itv.com MALE contestants in Redhill, Reigate, Horley, Oxted, Dorking, Godstone, Caterham, East Grinstead & Haywards Heath - to apply, email sunil.mis...@itv.com " [0] - http://www.channel4.com/programmes/come-dine-with-me [1] - https://www.facebook.com/comedinewithme Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] gnome Applications menu keyboard shortcut
On 25/11/12 18:15, Rob Malpass wrote: Alt+F1 doesn't bring up the applications menu in gnome any more - does anyone know how to reinstate it? On both my 12.04 and 12.10 systems if I login to either GNOME Classic or GNOME Classic (no effects) ALT+F1 brings up the applications menu. So not sure how yours has become unmapped. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] OT: broadband router with DNS....
On 22/11/12 14:17, c...@spamcop.net wrote: Okay, so in the light of the many such comments, I've ordered a new router, and will go the path of a third party firmware. Although, I'll probably go with DD-WRT, just because there seems to be slightly better documentation for the things I want - but we shall see I have two identical routers at home, Netgear WNDR3700, one running DD-WRT, and one running OpenWRT. Both are rock solid. DD-WRT benefits from having a nice easy to use web interface whereas OpenWRT benefits from being highly configurable. There's a few things (such as bridging) that I found painful in DD-WRT but which work as you'd expect on OpenWRT. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
