Re: [Hampshire] Security compromise in liblzma/OpenSSH daemon

[Brad Rogers via Hampshire]

Further musings on this (not by me, but by Joey Hess - much better
qualified that I'll ever be to comment;

https://joeyh.name/blog/entry/reflections_on_distrusting_xz/

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Re: [Hampshire] Security compromise in liblzma/OpenSSH daemon

[Brad Rogers via Hampshire]

On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 14:21:02 +0100
James Dutton via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello James,

>Maybe someone needs to write a tool that scans all .deb and .rpm
>install bash scripts, and highlights any non-trivial ones.

There's discussion of the issue on the Debian Developers ML.  I read it,
but don't post;

a) not a developer (although it's not required to be one to post there)
b) much of the discussion is too technical for me to fully comprehend or
   make useful contributions.

>The install script for xz-utils should have been simple also, it
>should only be dumping some files on your filesystem and that is it.
>No other activity it needs to do.

From what I've read, it's precisely this that triggered the
investigation;  Person installing xz-utls notices a pause during the
process and investigated why.  I'd have not noticed, I'm sure.

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Re: [Hampshire] VLC on Ubuntu not playing some DVD VRs

[Brad Rogers via Hampshire]

On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 08:51:39 +
Rob Malpass via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello Rob,

>VLC opens and crashes immediately. 

What happens if you move your current VLC config out of the way?
(just rename ~/.config/vlcrc)

I had VLC crashing left, right and centre for a while.  Deleting the
existing config cured the problem.  Sometimes a small hammer blow is
necessary - even though, ideally, we'd like to know *why* it broke.

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Re: [Hampshire] List Activity

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On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:42:33 -
rmluglist2--- via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello rmluglist2---,

>I strongly suspect folks have moved onto social media (which I've
>yet to really embrace properly) 

All best avoided, IMO.  T of most of them (fb, twitter, tiktok, etc,
etc.) mean you waive your right to privacy - despite what they say.

They may not have started that way, (the forerunner to fb was initially
set up to stalk a girl - creeepy), but they are all now in the
business of selling data to whoever wants to buy.  Mostly to target
advertising at specific audiences.

There is an exception;  The Fediverse(1).  Open source and
decentralised.  Since most instances are run by volunteers, it's usually
a good idea to bung the operators a few quid every now and then, to
assist with running costs.  Especially since there's been a a large
upswing in users since the Musk take-over of the bird-site (aka twitter).

(1)  Most well-known is software is Mastodon, but others exist.

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Re: [Hampshire] Inkjet cartridges for HP 6700 (or similar)

[Brad Rogers via Hampshire]

On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 13:24:13 +0100
Kevin Safford via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello Kevin,

>It doesn't sound as though you're too bothered about getting money for

You're right about that.  Essentially, looking to cover postage;  Pick
up out of the question - I'm in Devon, but lived in Hampshire for many
happy years.

>them, so have you considered Freegle? https://www.ilovefreegle.org/

Thanks for the suggestion.

I've got the carts up in a couple of LUGs because I am trying to avoid
signing up for yet *another* outlet.  I'll see how things pan out.

Thanks again.

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Re: [Hampshire] Inkjet cartridges for HP 6700 (or similar)

[Brad Rogers via Hampshire]

On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 09:38:36 +0100
Brad Rogers  wrote:

Hello,

>for HP 6100, 6600, 6700 etc. printers.

To clarify further, equivalent to;

933XL - cyan
932XL - black

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[Hampshire] Inkjet cartridges for HP 6700 (or similar)

[Brad Rogers via Hampshire]

Hello,

I've got two black and one cyan inkjet cartridges (compatible, not HP)
for HP 6100, 6600, 6700 etc. printers.  I can see no expiry date, but as
a gauge, I bought them in January.  Had them listed on ebay, no takers
so far.  I'd rather somebody got use out of them before they get sent
for recycling.

The thing is, I no longer have the printer these were bought for; it
died, due to a lightning strike, after I bought a set of cartridges but
before they could be used.

Anybody have a suitable printer, or know somebody that has one.  A fiver
would get the lot.  They're all the  XL type; i.e. high capacity and are
therefore too big to get posted as large letter because the black carts
are 30mm across.  At a *fiver* they're only pennies each, most of the
cost being postage.

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Re: [Hampshire] Portsmouth and South East Hants LUG - April 16th IRL & Virtual meet

[Brad Rogers via Hampshire]

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:45:45 + (UTC)
Paul Tansom via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello Paul,

>OK, I can't see my previous email on the lists or in my sent,

Ignore my last - I'm going mad, not you.  The one I saw was for March!
This means there have been very few messages on the list over the last
month.

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Re: [Hampshire] Portsmouth and South East Hants LUG - April 16th IRL & Virtual meet

[Brad Rogers via Hampshire]

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:45:45 + (UTC)
Paul Tansom via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello Paul,

>OK, I can't see my previous email on the lists or in my sent, so either

You did send it - I received a copy on the 11th.

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Re: [Hampshire] 8% Packet loss due to ethernet cable

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rmluglist2--- via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello rmluglist2---,

>a) the length of the cable or 

Unlikely;  Cable runs of up to 100m should be okay.  Difficult to reach
in a domestic setting.

>b) the quality of the cable or 

More likely.

You also mentioned (lack of) cable movement.  Don't be so sure -
expansion/contraction as temperature changes may play a part.

To say nothing of routing.  Esp. if the cable ever goes under floor or
via the loft.  Then rodents and all sorts of other critters might enter
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Re: [Hampshire] Linux and LED Scrolling Signs

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On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 13:01:03 -
Rob via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello Rob,

>However, I don't want to use Windows and I have in mind a bash script to

It comes with software.  Which I read as;  It's using a proprietary
protocol that won't run on Linux.  It won't even work on a Windows
laptop, according to their blurb.  Pretty crap at the outset, IMO.

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Re: [Hampshire] Debian flash drive mount problem

[Brad Rogers via Hampshire]

On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 21:11:10 + (UTC)
Peter Alefounder via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello Peter,

>man mount gave me the impression it was possible, but it could do with
>a few examples. 

I feel your pain.  However, man pages aren't supposed to be tutorials.
Of course, some are man pages are better written than others.

This page may be useful for getting info about various commands;
http://cb.vu/unixtoolbox.xhtml

Also, I find that, quite often, Arch Linux wiki pages give excellent
guidance on multiple subjects.  The mount command is probably no
exception.

Then, of course, there's always your $FavourtieSearchEngine.

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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Brad Rogers via Hampshire]

On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 11:35:41 +
Owain via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello Owain,

>It's a shame this list is so much quieter than it used to be, but good 

It's an inevitable consequence of time passing;  There's far more info
available on the 'net now than ten or twenty years ago.  Far more people
connected, too.  Of course, some of that info may no longer be relevant.
Be that as it may, it is therefore, possible to get a fair amount of
advice by a simple search.  IOW, there's often no need to wait for an
answer - it's almost there waiting for you.

>advise is still on hand

I'm sure there will be.


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Re: [Hampshire] Printers

[Brad Rogers via Hampshire]

On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:06:44 +
Owain via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello Owain,

>I am so regretting accepting a free HP Officejet printer.  The software 
>works ok, but for me part of the open source ethic is being able to use 
>non OEM cartridges 

I use non-HP ink cartridges in my OfficeJet without issues.

I know there was a time when HP silently blocked the possibility of using
non-HP cartridges, but that decision was soon reversed after a *massive*
outcry (no doubt followed by a downturn in sales) from pretty much all
quarters.  All this was in late 2016, BTW.  Maybe a firmware update is
in order.

Despite the reversal, HP did not apologise for the block.  Nor did they
say that they wouldn't do it again.  Therefore, once you've performed a
firmware update (if applicable) I suggest you prevent your printer from
auto-updating firmware in future.

TBH, the whole debacle seriously knocked my confidence(1) in HP.  When my
current printer dies.  I may well buy from another supplier with better
open-source credentials.

(1)  Possibly too strong a word.  HP's Linux/open-source support is
patchy, at best.

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Re: [Hampshire] Au revoir mes amis

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On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 18:58:12 +0100
Chris Dennis via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello Chris,

>a special HantsLUG meeting in sunny Brittany sometime? 'Bringing a box' 
>all that way could be tricky though.

Not if it were a box of chocolates.   ;-)

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Re: [Hampshire] Colour Printer Replacement

[Brad Rogers via Hampshire]

On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 13:27:58 +0100
Roger Munford via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello Roger,

>replacement are weird. The toner is so expensive in comparison to the 
>actual printer. Is this just a marketing ploy or is toner expensive to 
>manufacture.

Similar things apply to inkjet printers.  That is, the ink is expensive
compared to the price of the printer.  Printers are (more or less) sold
at cost (if not a loss).  Where printer makers make their money is on the
sale of consumables; ink(1), toner, etc.  So much so, that HP even went
to the extent of locking out third party ink cartridges so they couldn't
be used in HP machines. A decision that, thankfully, was reversed.

Short version;  It's largely a marketing ploy.

(1) Ink can cost around £990 a litre - over 840 times the price of
petrol (based on my printer's ink costs and local petrol prices).

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Re: [Hampshire] general genealogy questions?

[Brad Rogers via Hampshire]

On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:11:06 +
"A. J. Trickett via Hampshire"  wrote:

Hello A.,

>Wondered if people had any opinion on which was best value, Find 
>My Past or Ancestry.com?

Whilst there's much overlap between the two, you may find that,
ultimately, you'll need data from both of them.  For example, only FMP
has the 1939 National Identity Register.  The most obvious variation is
in the Parish Register image sets they have available.

Also, do as I do and keep an eye on http://genealogydiscount.co.uk/ for
discounts.  Sometimes, you can get as much as 50% off an annual
subscription.
Should you be concerned; the site isn't a data mining site (you don't
need to enter anything at all to use it, not even an email address) and I
have no association with them other than as a satisfied user.

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Re: [Hampshire] Quite a good joke

[Brad Rogers via Hampshire]

On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 11:58:51 +0100
Roger Munford via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello Roger,

>It may already be widespread but I had never heard it before my son

You're not alone;  I don't recall hearing it before, either.

Nice one.   :-)

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Re: [Hampshire] Village History Website

[Brad Rogers via Hampshire]

On Tue, 3 May 2016 16:56:16 +0100
Chris Dennis via Hampshire  wrote:

Hello Chris,

>guessing that there is a fairly small audience for this sort of local
>interest stuff).

You might be surprised - Family historians/genealogists *love* this type
of thing as it helps them to add context to what might otherwise be a
rather 'dry' read.

Sure, it's never going to beat youtube, but that's not the point.

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Re: [Hampshire] anyone have a spare 65W laptop PSU?

[Brad Rogers]

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 11:22:08 +
"A. J. Trickett"  wrote:

Hello A.,

>I've tried Amazon etc and on the whole, 65W is a very common PSU 
>size, as is q 5.5mm OD jack, but most of them are the yellow tips 
>and that doesn't fit as I've alredy tried one of them - at my 

Your friend (the guy that repaired the cable) could easily replace the
jack connector with one that fits.  Maplins sell a whole range of laptop
power plugs.  It's just a matter of finding the right one.  It'll cost a
good deal less than a replacement PSU (pennies as opposed to pounds).

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Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 17:52:44 +
Gordon Scott <gor...@gscott.co.uk> wrote:

Hello Gordon,

>On Thu, 2015-11-12 at 16:52 +0000, Brad Rogers wrote:
>> the NIMBY brigade.  
>Don't get me started :-)

Too late, obviously.   :-)

>I'm not in any way anti renewables, though I think they should perhaps
>focus a little more on tidal stream, which is reliably 24/7 around our

Like you, I'm not against.  I feel that there are plenty of missed
opportunities, though.  Like making it a legal requirement that new
housing does rainwater capture, and all the other things Roger
suggested, as well as PV and water panels on the roof.  Obviously,
there's a cost to this.  A bitter pill to swallow in the current housing
market.

>veracity of the view that they kill birds and bats.

Bats;  Probably nil.  They use sonar, after all.  As for birds, less
than get killed by cars each year.  All in all, a red herring.  All IMO,
of course.  I've not seen any evidence either for or against.  I don't
watch them a great deal, but there are quite a few wind turbines around
my neck of the woods.  By and large, birds seem to avoid them.

>Oh dear. I did warn you :-/

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Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 15:04:07 +
Gordon Scott  wrote:

Hello Gordon,

>Why oh why do they so often put them in green spaces?  It's ridiculous.

Access, cost and safety, to name but three.

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Re: [Hampshire] problem with KDE desktops

[Brad Rogers]

On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 11:53:32 +
Peter Alefounder p_alefoun...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hello Peter,

It worked! This list may be less active than it was, but Debian

Activity, thankfully, is not synonymous with accuracy.   :-)

OTOH, the more active a list, the better the chances are that somebody
will know the answer.

questions can still be answered. Thank you, Brad.

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Re: [Hampshire] problem with KDE desktops

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On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 14:58:17 +
Peter B. pet...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Peter,

There are still a few of us here.  Long live the Linux community

I didn't mean to imply otherwise.

The HantsLUG denizens seem to be a group of sage Linux users.
Consequently they're able to sort their own issues out, by and large.

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Re: [Hampshire] problem with KDE desktops

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On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 18:18:07 +
Peter Alefounder p_alefoun...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hello Peter,


Folder View Settings

On the other three, I get a much shorter menu:

Desktop Settings

How can I arrange to get the first type of menu on all desktops?

I /think/ this is what you want (note:  not tried it myself)

The clue is the two options I've left above;  Folder settings  Desktop
settings.  Change the screens with the 'short' menu from desktop to
folder.  IOW, r-click on the cashew, select Desktop Settings then in the
View section, change Layout to Folder and click Apply.  You should now
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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Amazon.co.uk down.

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On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:13:38 +
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Hello James,

Its black Friday, and guess what Amazon.co.uk web site is down.

Works fine from here.

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Re: [Hampshire] UEFI booting woes

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On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 21:18:01 +
Ian Park i.d.c.p...@ntlworld.com wrote:

Hello Ian,

go into the BIOS, and it booted into Windows (I'd specified that I 
wanted the machine with no OS, but I guess that PC Specialist installed 
Windows for the system test)

From what I remember of my purchsaes from them, it's a bare bones
install; Useful only for their testing purposes and little, if
anything, more.

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Re: [Hampshire] Cloud of choice

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On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 16:12:03 +0100
Gordon Scott gor...@gscott.co.uk wrote:

Hello Gordon,

I'm told a few celebrities agree with me.

After the last week or so, yes.   };-)

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Re: [Hampshire] Code base and Emergency Data Laws

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On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 21:48:01 +0100
Daniel Llewellyn diddle...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Daniel,

The problem is that spying isn't being done on persons breaking laws,
it is done on everyone at all times. Right now you are being surveiled
by the powers-that-be whether you like to believe it or not.

Worse;  Private companies/individuals are recording us on CCTV.  No
recourse is available to us, as they do it unlicensed (there's none
necessary, of course) and unchecked, so they can do what they like with
the footage.  Including, but not limited to, making money out of by
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Re: [Hampshire] Code base and Emergency Data Laws

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On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 09:07:49 +0100
James Courtier-Dutton james.dut...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello James,

4) The requests are definitely aimed at being of use to police
investigating a crime. For example, they can search by a fraudulent

And therein lies a problem.  Aimed at, on the face of it, doesn't
preclude the law being used in ways, and for things, it wasn't intended
to be used.

Some here will be too young to know about this example, or simply not
remember;
In the 1970s, there were what were popularly called the Sus Laws (sus
is short for suspicion).  They granted the police the power to stop and
search anyone they suspected of having committed a crime.  In actuality,
they were used mostly to stop and search black people.  Cue race riots.

In short;  if it suits their purpose, the powers that be will use the
letter of the law to subvert the intent of the law.   :-(

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Re: [Hampshire] Code base and Emergency Data Laws

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On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 18:54:19 +0100
Joseph Bennie j...@lincore.com wrote:

Hello Joseph,

but more often than not these laws save lives*, and those guilty of

Potentially, yes.

*I expect these law also allow for the triangulation of a person for
search and rescue.  and other good causes. 

Personally, I wouldn't bet on it.

and in respect of breaches of trust.. we have a long heritage of good
political oversight to intercept abuses of power. 

ROFLOL!

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Re: [Hampshire] [OFF TOPIC] Electrician recommendation

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On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 11:47:55 +0100
Stephen Nelson-Smith sanel...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Stephen,

It's for home - we have a barn in which we want to put some lighting and
enough power sockets for a freezer and a few other bits and bobs.

Assuming you have the desire, capability, time and the project is not
subject to planning regulations and inspection;

In theory, you can do it all yourself, /except/ for the connection to
the consumer unit (fuse/MCB) or similar.  That should be done by a
competent person who will check your work before s/he signs off on it
all.

In practice.

Well, I leave that to your imagination.

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Re: [Hampshire] [OFF TOPIC] Electrician recommendation

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On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 18:35:13 +0100
Daniel Llewellyn diddle...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Daniel,

 competent person who will check your work before s/he signs off on
 it all.

That's not entirely accurate. Building regulations Part-P requires that
all domestic electrical work be audited and approved by a qualified
Part-P

Except for the term Part-P (head went blank, so I wrote competent
person), that's what I said.  Note: s/he signs of on it all.

In practice, and as far as I'm aware, this isn't actually an issue
until you come to sell the property - all work carried out on the

True.  Also, given the level of understanding (i.e. almost nil) 90% of
the general population have of the legislation, the door is still wide
open for the cowboys.  If anything, it opened wider because the
responsible electricians doing all the Part P installation, testing and
so on, are going to have to charge more because their costs have gone
up.  Poor buggers.   :-(

OTOH, they do pick up a few testing jobs from sparkies like me who
aren't Part P registered.

Plus, of course, certain jobs are exempt.  Although that's not
applicable in the case of Stephen's barn job, of course.

premises must have a valid Part-P certification paper for the legal
side of changing ownership.

As for properties that have had nothing done since the instigation of
Part P in 2005 (I had to check - head blank again); they won't have
certificates.  What happens then?  No need to answer, the question is
(mostly) rhetorical.

Note also, I'm not sure whether a Barn wired to a domestic premises is

That will depend on what it's being used for.  Local Planning Dept.
will, or at least should, know even if the home owner doesn't.  

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Re: [Hampshire] [OFF TOPIC] Electrician recommendation

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On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:39:17 +0100
Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote:

Hello Anton,

And how does one know when buying a house if electrical work was done
after 2005?

TBH, IDK.  The certificate that an electrician hands over on completion
of any job is likely to be filed in the grey receptacle, I suspect.

I'd say it is rather hard to enforce, unless of course you are wiring an

I tend to agree.  There are plenty of horror stories regarding people
printing off their own 'certificates' and handing them over, builders
with no prior electrical experience doing a short (5 day) course to get
registered, etc. etc.

extension and it is obviously new wiring.

Even then, what do most people do with all the paperwork, once the job
is done?   :-(

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Re: [Hampshire] Top posting

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On Tue, 27 May 2014 12:54:48 +0100
Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote:

Hello Anton,

because everything flows nicely, as it should. 
page looking for the start of the next paragraph?  No, of course not,
Finally, when reading a book, do you expect to have to jump about the

From right to left, yes, but not bottom to top.
My point being, no written language truly writes from bottom to top.  

now that I've done it?
me to prove a point.  Are you still as sure it's still as easy to read
It's certainly not easier.  Anyhow, nobody posts bottom to top, except

Your presumption however assumes that it is that much harder to read?

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Re: [Hampshire] Lacie Backup Disks

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On Mon, 12 May 2014 12:49:53 +0100
David Webb d...@soton.ac.uk wrote:

Hello David,

1.  Are disks still my best archive storage system?

Given their cost these days, probably.  Although CDs and DVDs can be
cheaper, their use requires extra step be taken.  This eats into
cost/performance benefit ratios.

2.  Should I just be buy cheap disks and replace one of the pair each
year?

Even cheap drives should last longer than that.  If you do disk checks,
you should get warning in advance of impending doom.

3.  Should I be spending as much effort checking the disks as
archiving?

Probably;  What's the point of archiving/backing up if you can't
restore?  I've come across people that used tar (or equivalent) to
archive stuff, and never checked it was possible to unpack the archive.
When the worst happened and they had to restore from a backup, guess
what happened?

4.  Is there a better strategy?

Keep at least one of your backups off site:  It's no good having the
backup drive next to the computer if the computer room goes up in
smoke.  They used to say at least 200yds away and in a fire proof box.
For many of us getting the backup stored that far away can be a
problem(1).  I settle for at my in-laws which is only 20 yds,but at
least it's a separate building.

(1)  Unless you're on very good terms with the family at the other end
of your street.   :-)

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Re: [Hampshire] Lacie Backup Disks

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On Sat, 10 May 2014 09:53:19 +0100
David Webb d...@soton.ac.uk wrote:

Hello David,

Does anyone know of an obvious cause for this type of failure - dust, 
movement, overheating - or how to get into the enclosure (to clean)
without destroying it?

If it's the drives that are failing, simply opening the enclosure and
cleaning will not help.  Opening the drive itself can only be done in a
clean room otherwise the disk *will* be destroyed.  There are companies
that do this, but it's not cheap and not worth it unless the data you're
attempting to recover is mission critical.

Try the drives on other people's machines if possible to try and
eliminate OS issues with your machines.

I note that the two drives are the same make/model:  Were they purchased
at the same time?  From the same batch?  Maybe there was/is an issue
with that particular batch.

It's worth noting that, as good as your back up policy is, using drives
(or any other media come to that [CD, DVD, flash, etc]) from the same
manufacturer is, IMO, to be avoided because of the potential for failure
due to manufacturing defect.  However slim those chances may be.

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Re: [Hampshire] Lacie Backup Disks

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On Sat, 10 May 2014 11:26:24 +0100
Alex Dicks a...@dixie.me.uk wrote:

Hello Alex,

You can just about get away with opening a hard disk in a clean
zip-seal freezer bag (making a very small clean room).

You got away with it, but I wouldn't fancy my chances TBH.  Drive head
fly heights are measured in microns, and just one dust particle will
wreak havoc because, sooner or later, it'll get dragged under the head
and it's goodbye drive.   :-(

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Re: [Hampshire] Heartbleed Bug

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On Tue, 8 Apr 2014 23:34:37 +0100
Dr A. J. Trickett adam.trick...@iredale.net wrote:

Hello Dr,

code-base. If you have anything that uses OpenSSL you should check and
patch your box and restart anything that uses OpenSSL.

And generate new keys.

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Re: [Hampshire] Heartbleed Bug

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On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 07:08:43 +0100
Keith Edmunds k...@midnighthax.com wrote:

Hello Keith,

And revoke and regenerate SSL certificates.

Yes, I should have mentioned that too.  

It was a busy day yesterday.

I bet it was.   :-(

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Re: [Hampshire] Router Port Scan

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On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 20:37:58 +
Daniel Llewellyn diddle...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Daniel,

although it also will mean that sysadmins will have fun using
addresses containing things like :cafe and :b00b and :1337 (I would

And face:booc (sic).

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Re: [Hampshire] choice of motherboard for use with Linux

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On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 19:27:26 +0100
Samuel Penn s...@glendale.org.uk wrote:

Hello Samuel,

On Friday 13 Sep 2013 14:30:11 Brad Rogers wrote:
 They always have.  They've never hidden that fact.  That's why, like
 you, I prefer to avoid them.
Technically, most ISPs do, even if it's just scanning for SPAM.

They *can*, certainly.  Whether most do, IDK.

If it's simply deciding what advert to show to you, that's one thing,
and not something I'd consider an invasion of privacy. YMMV.

Surveying/scanning email for clues as to preferences, etc. is an
invasion of privacy in the same way that somebody opening a letter
addressed to you is an invasion.  Now, I know some consider email like a
postcard, but I don't, mostly because there's a To header and also an
Envelope-To header.   Pedantry perhaps, but that's the way I look at
it.  In any case, in other medium does an advertiser have any way of
piking out your preferences.

If it's to forward juicy looking conversations to humans so they can
have a laugh about your private life, that's something completely
different.

This actually happened to my sister-in-law (SiL).  How do we know?
Because the legal secretary that forwarded it to one of her
colleagues with a snide remark, stupidly (accidentally) Cc'd my SiL.
Lots of egg on face, some big apologies, and a *huge* reduction in the
bill.  Whether that person kept their job, IDK.  We're not likely to
find out since that firm is longer used by aforesaid SiL.

It's perfectly possible for 'Google' to do something that 'Google'
hadn't meant to do (whether it was accidental or not, I have no
idea, but it *is* possible for it to have been).

Many things are possible to do accidentally.  However, fitting wifi
capable detector kit to the company camera cars, looking for wifi
leakage, recording all the data it's possible to slurp from any leaks
found, and later decoding said data simply cannot happen accidentally.
Whether it's what the big-wigs intended or not, when things get to that
point, is irrelevant.  It then becomes an act of malfeasance.

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Re: [Hampshire] choice of motherboard for use with Linux

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On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:36:04 +0100
Gordon Scott gor...@gscott.co.uk wrote:

Hello Gordon,

I've been _very_ confident for a long time now that Google scans and
uses gmail content.

They always have.  They've never hidden that fact.  That's why, like
you, I prefer to avoid them.  Even if I do need to search using their
engines, I do so via https://startpage.com, a site that enables you to
search using google anonymously.

What I can't believe, because it's simply not possible, is that google
'accidentally' slurped up people's data whilst driving around taking
pictures for streetview. 

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Re: [Hampshire] choice of motherboard for use with Linux

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On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:38:58 +0100
Gordon Scott gor...@gscott.co.uk wrote:

Hello Gordon,

OK, that's supposed to be funny.  I think 

:-)

And with all that you wrote slowly coming true, a truly Orwellian future
can't be that far off.   :-(

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Re: [Hampshire] Workstation and Wacom tablet for sale

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On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:50:59 +0100
Richard Bensley richardbens...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Richard,

Wacom Intuos 3 A4 Oversize USB £50

I'd like the table for my daughter, if it's still available.
Unfortunately, I can't do pick up as I'm in Devon.  I am, of course,
happy to pay the postage.

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Re: [Hampshire] Laptop Recommendations

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On Fri, 17 May 2013 12:38:48 +0100
Roger Munford rogermunf...@parussoftware.co.uk wrote:

Hello Roger,

Can anybody recommend either a low end laptop or a buying strategy
which would lead to a Linux Friendly laptop.

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk sell laptops and desktops either with or
without an OS installed.  Failing that, refurbed IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads
from many eBay sellers.  Although the latter will have Windows
installed, I just wipe it.

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Domestic Energy usage

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On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 09:26:29 +
Gordon Scott gor...@gscott.co.uk wrote:

Hello Gordon,

the inspectors came they marked the cavity wall insulation entry as 
presumed not.  They didn't even ask.

They seem to always do that - even when the property was built *after*
the time when insulation became a requirement, as mine was.  Stupid..

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Domestic Energy usage

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On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 13:26:57 +
Dr A. J. Trickett adam.trick...@iredale.net wrote:

Hello Dr,

Depressingly lots of houses built after the regulations were 
changed don't meet the regulations... However the assesment is a 

Terrible, isn't it?  I can't even drill a hole in the wall without the
local authority whinging about it, yet the big developers get away with
all sorts.   :-(

joke and so far everyone has backed up that observation.

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Re: [Hampshire] The future of Linux / career advice

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On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:31:53 +
Ally Biggs bluechr...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

Hello Ally,

The problem with desktop Linux I think is when the shit hits the fan
and something needs to be configured or a driver needs to be added your
average user isn't going to want to sit typing commands in a terminal
or spending hours finding the solution into a community. 

The /real/ (at least, IMO) problem is that nobody needs any
qualifications to be able to buy and/or use a computer.  I can think of
few, if any, equally complex pieces of technology that do not require
some sort of required learning.  Most often with a test of competence
that needs to be passed before one is allowed to go solo.  Cars,
aeroplanes, you name it...

Microsoft and their ilk like to hide the nuts and bolts of their systems
because it means a whole industry is created, purely to rectify the
horrendous cock-ups many of the computer illiterate unwashed will
perpetrate.  Computers are difficult.  GUIs just make it *look* simple.
Frankly, the worst thing to happen to computers was the WIMP interface.
At that point, it became inevitable that there would be shedloads or
morons running computers, most of whom I wouldn't trust to run their own
baths.

LUG (well, any computer group really) members are, of course, not in the
category I just outlined.  Group members are quite knowledgeable when it
comes to computers.  Some of them prodigiously so.  Many have particular
speciality skills too, which allows them to assist those that ask for
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Re: [Hampshire] Hostnames

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:29:29 +
Tony Whitmore t...@tonywhitmore.co.uk wrote:

Hello Tony,

It's totally possible to integrate DHCP and DNS. You don't mention 
which distro, but assuming it's Ubuntu, check this out:

Not even where Leo writes ...an old computer running debian...?

;-)

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Re: [Hampshire] Scamming call

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On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:17:18 +
Tony Wood tonywoo...@ntlworld.com wrote:

Hello Tony,

Oh I like that, Brad: the witness protection idea.

:-)

I think the pause on answering (many calls) is due to computer dialling 
connecting the call centre worker when it finds an answered phone.

The use of those devices is supposed to be illegal in the UK, but I bet
they get used quite extensively.  Of course, since most of these calls
originate overseas, the point is moot.

When I'm addressed by name - in such circumstances - I never admit to 
being ...

Whne they asked to speak to Mr ROgers,

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Re: [Hampshire] Scamming call

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On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:13:15 +
Anthony a...@f2s.com wrote:

Hello Anthony,

I'm pretty sure you'd enjoy a look at http://www.saynotocoldcalls.com. 

I wasn't aware of that site, but as soon as I visited, I realised who
that guy is, and that he's already been compensated twice.

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Re: [Hampshire] Scamming call

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On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:17:18 +
Tony Wood tonywoo...@ntlworld.com wrote:

Hello Tony,

Oh I like that, Brad: the witness protection idea.

:-)

I think the pause on answering (many calls) is due to computer dialling 
connecting the call centre worker when it finds an answered phone.

Indexed caller devices are supposed to be illegal in the UK.  I bet they
get used though.  Of course, with most of these calls coming from
overseas, the point is moot.

When I'm addressed by name - in such circumstances - I never admit to 
being ...

I used to hand the phone to my (then 6 year old) daughter, f they ever
asked to speak to Mrs Rogers.  The por girl has been scarred for
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Re: [Hampshire] Scamming call

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On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:21:52 +
Imran Chaudhry ichaud...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Imran,

I have heard some unscrupulous companies do not comply with it but it
is better than nothing.

TPS adherence is now supposed to be law.  Few people seem to be aware
oif that, though.  So, if the callers are UK based they can be penalised.
Or at least should be, if they get reported.

If the callers are an overseas operation, or you're a customer of theirs,
to all intents and purposes, you're stuffed.  Since these scam calls, by
and large, originate from overseas there's little that can be done.   :-(

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Re: [Hampshire] Scamming call

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On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:19:22 +
Keith Edmunds k...@midnighthax.com wrote:

Hello Keith,

But they seldom are.

I know.  The second paragraph in my mail indicated my awareness of the
overseas issues.

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Re: [Hampshire] Scamming call

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On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:10:17 +
Tony Wood tonywoo...@ntlworld.com wrote:

Hello Tony,

I recently asked my ex-directory neighbours about cold telephone calls 
and it seems they get more than I do. (Their most recent was the 

Possibly because they give out their number to all the companies, web
sites and what-not that ask for it.  If asked for a number, I always
give out my mobile number.  If that is deemed unacceptable, I leave a
fake landline number;  The STD code is correct, but the rest is bogus.

I have, on occasion, been tempted to say that the reason I decline to
give a landline number is because I'm in a witness protection
program.   :-)

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Re: [Hampshire] Scamming call

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:21:05 +
Tony Wood tonywoo...@ntlworld.com wrote:

Hello Tony,

Have I got this right, Victor: you feel sorry for those knowingly
making dishonest cold calls to con the public?

Victor, I think, believes that those people /actually/ doing the calling
are, by and large, also being duped by the higher ups.

From various documentaries I have watched (on similar subjects, not this
particular one) and my wife's experience in her previous job, I can well
believe that at least some of the people working the coal face really do
think they're doing a proper job.

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Re: [Hampshire] 8TB Cloud

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On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:23:53 -
Rob Malpass li...@getiton.myzen.co.uk wrote:

Hello Rob,

3) If, expense notwithstanding for the moment, I did this as 4*2TB
external USB hard drives, I've had trouble sharing these with Ubuntu
before now. For some reason they're mounted under /media under a
strange (and seemingly random) string of characters (which change every
time the server is restarted) such that permanent shortcuts from other
devices on the network wouldn't work and would need to be
re-established each time I connect.   Has anyone worked around this?

Label the drives, or use their UUID, and mount them wherever you wish,
via fstab, overruling anything the system tries.

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Re: [Hampshire] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

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On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 00:03:19 +0100
Dave Walker davewal...@ubuntu.com wrote:

Hello Dave,

(The sad thing is, i'm not quite sure how this happened!)

1) Possibly, you accepted LinkedIn's request to invite people in your
address book. 
2) You've got the list address saved as the Stuart's address.

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Re: [Hampshire] Books for free

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On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:37:33 +0100
Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote:

Hello Alan,

I no longer want ^^ this pile of books. If someone would like to take

There's probably a community project in your area that supports the
disadvantaged giving them computer access, etc.  Some of those people
may want to do something a little more advanced than email out job
applications or write letters.  Consider donating the books to such a
worthy cause.

Living in Devon, I'm a bit too far away to be of real use in that
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Re: [Hampshire] The Cookie Law

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On Sun, 27 May 2012 09:42:36 +0100
Tony Wood tonywoo...@ntlworld.com wrote:

Hello Tony,

 Surely not !

Oh yes indeed.

Oh, and don't call me Shirley.   :-)

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Re: [Hampshire] The Cookie Law

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On Sun, 27 May 2012 07:52:24 +0100
Sean Gibbins s...@funkygibbins.me.uk wrote:

Hello Sean,

 'ill-considered and poorly executed laws' is that they often turn out
 to be extremely broad-ranging in their scope as a result, and quite
 handy for shutting down dissent or forming an excuse to spy on the
 general populace.

The difference between the *intent* of the law, and the *letter* of the
law.   :-(

I do find it odd though, that people object to being spied on by the
govt. but are not only willing, but complicit in allowing a private
company to do the same.  Not even with the pretence of the public
good, but simply for the benefit (i.e. profit) of said company.  I'm
thinking google and their ilk.

Maybe I need a better tin-foil hat.  IDK.

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Re: [Hampshire] The Cookie Law

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On Sat, 26 May 2012 16:43:50 +0100
Stephen Davies stephen.dav...@ultraconsulting.co.uk wrote:

Hello Stephen,

 I just installed an addon for Firefox that allows me to view the
 cookies for a site.

Why do you need an add-on for that?  FF, in common with all the browsers
I've ever used, allow you to view the cookies via their settings pages.

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Re: [Hampshire] The Cookie Law

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On Fri, 25 May 2012 23:13:31 +0100
Tim Brocklehurst t...@engineering.selfip.org wrote:

Hello Tim,

 A little more digging reveals this from the guidance notes...
{snipped}

So, it's an ill-considered, poorly executed, impossible to police law.
You'd think it was one of ours, not pan-European.

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Re: [Hampshire] The Cookie Law

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On Fri, 25 May 2012 22:56:45 +0100
hants...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hello hants...@googlemail.com,

 I don't order from Which?.  I just read the site.  And now it is

Like I said;  just one example.  Tracking your use of the site is
another.  If only to target advertising at you, based on your site
viewing history.

 impossible to look at the site without accepting cookies.  I still

A site to avoid, then.

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Re: [Hampshire] The Cookie Law

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On Fri, 25 May 2012 19:07:10 +0100
Tim Brocklehurst t...@engineering.selfip.org wrote:

Hello Tim,

 Apparently it's a slow news day at the Beeb. There are plenty of

It might be a slow news day, but that doesn't alter the fact that the law
changes regarding the setting of cookies.  Users will have to be shown a
warning that they're being set and offer users the option to not accept
any(1).  Of course, as we know, there quite a few sites that simply
refuse to work if you don't accept cookies, and not all of them tell you
that they won't work.

(1) How they go about it is up to them;  If users don't press no inside
(say) 10 seconds, that can be taken as an implicit yes, to setting
cookies.  Other sites might be more reasonable and wait for an answer
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Re: [Hampshire] The Cookie Law

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On Fri, 25 May 2012 22:08:19 +0100
hants...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hello hants...@googlemail.com,

 The site does in fact work fine without cookies because I have yet to

Many sites will.  It can be a painful experience though.  Having to
enter your name and address *every* time you order something from a
supplier is just one example.

Site cookies aren't really the issue though, it's third party cookies.
That is, the ones that track your movements across the web.  They're
used to target you for certain things.  Advertising is the most common.

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Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?

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On Tue, 1 May 2012 22:17:40 +0100
Imran Chaudhry ichaud...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Imran,

 http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=164
 Do they really make a difference?

Yes, but;

No-one has mentioned water cooling.  Very quiet indeed.  Can be a scary
prospect for some, but it does work.  AS has been mentioned though, once
you've eliminated the loudest noise (usually the CPU fan), you start
hearing other things;  GPU fan, drive motors

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Re: [Hampshire] top error

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:13:14 +0100
Owain Clarke simb...@cooptel.net wrote:

Hello Owain,

 I'm suddenly getting a new error - I don't know of anything I've
 changed that's caused this.  Top responds with top: Invalid user.

Permissions changed perhaps?  FWIW, here they're;

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  71792 Jan 23 11:40 /usr/bin/top

I'm using Debian Testing.

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Re: [Hampshire] top error

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:59:31 +0100
Owain Clarke simb...@cooptel.net wrote:

Hello Owain,

 No it's not that, Brad - I have:

Worth a shot.  From your second message I see you've solved it.

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Low profile PCI brackets

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On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 15:16:24 +
Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com wrote:

Hello Chris,

 Does anyone know where I can buy some low-profile PCI brackets?

Blank can be bought here;

http://cpc.farnell.com/startech/plateblanklp/expansion-cover-blank-low-profile/dp/CS22617

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Re: [Hampshire] Anyone familiar with Grub2?

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On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:27:30 - (GMT)
Vic l...@beer.org.uk wrote:

Hello Vic,

 But with grub2, I'm a bit lost as to how to fix things. Even putting an
 explicit insmod lvm into grub.cfg doesn't seem to get things going...

Has to be done in the right place.  See;

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2#LVM

for an example.

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Re: [Hampshire] Novatech - Ubuntu good news?

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On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:25:52 +
alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote:

Hello alan,

 Anyone read '1984' lately?

Why?  We're living it!

;-)

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Re: [Hampshire] Linux Answers

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On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:46:30 +
hants...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hello hants...@googlemail.com,

 Sorry to be dim, Chris, but are you saying that 21 Celsius is the same
 thing as 70 Fahrenheit?  Getting that far has taken me a mere 7
 hours!  Yes, I suppose you are.  But that took arithmetic.  21 Celsius
 makes sense.  Many people, I know, use Fahrenheit.  But does it make
 sense to anybody?? :-/

Many people use both Celsius  Fahrenheit.  For example, when it's hot,
they might say It's eighty degrees, implying Fahrenheit.  OTOH, when
it's cold they'll report It's minus five, indicating Celsius.  I mean,
saying Brrr, it's 23 doesn't have the same ring to it.

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Re: [Hampshire] KVM and Num lock problem

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On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:53:44 +
Mike Dwerryhouse mike...@ntlworld.com wrote:

Hello Mike,

 I've used a few KVMs in different jobs, and have one here at home.
 It's always been double scroll-lock then up or down arrow to switch.

One of the reasons I always preferred the mechanical switch units is the
nagging doubt that keyboard signals are getting masked somewhere/how.

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Re: [Hampshire] Floppy Disk Drive - Short Notice

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On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:06:55 +0100
Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk wrote:

Hello Philip,

 Now that you have been sussed, you are obliged to make a recording of
 this, and post a link to it here. :-)

Weren't owners of Commodore floppy drives (1541?) back in the C64 days
able to do this sort of thing?  Without additional electronics?

Either way, it's still Good Fun.

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Re: [Hampshire] OT Please tell me how this is not a scam.

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On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:48:22 +0100
Lisi hants...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hello Lisi,

 You bought snake oil.  There are no adders in your kitchen.  What more

I heard they multiply quite quickly.

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Re: [Hampshire] Data Destruction

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On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 19:19:12 +0100
Victor Churchill victorchurch...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Victor,

 when tracks were physically wider but that with newer disks with
 higher track-per-inch density it no longer applies.

Domestically, maybe.  Government agencies (police, etc.) will have
superior hardware capable of such data retrieval.  Possibly not to quite
the depth as before, but it'll come, I have no doubt.

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Re: [Hampshire] Firewall distributions

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On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:06:19 +0100
James Courtier-Dutton james.dut...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello James,

 I have one of those. She puts a gold ring on my finger. It looks
 harmless enough, but I am sure it forces me to say yes to everything!

There is only The One Ring.   ;-)

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Re: [Hampshire] Good old SCSI?

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On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 19:09:56 +0100
Rob Malpass li...@getiton.myzen.co.uk wrote:

Hello Rob,

 So in short - I guess my question is: Is SCSI so old it's not worth
 bothering with?

These days, TBH, I'd simply go with SATA.  Partly because it's so simple
to connect devices to, and partly because drive sizes measured in
terrabytes, leave SCSI devices out on the cold.

OTOH, I never had any trouble with SCSI devices.  Simply terminate both
ends (controller and last device physically) of the chain, and you're
off.

However, I recall plenty of people moaning they couldn't get things
working correctly.  Usually, due to a misunderstanding of what last
device meant.  Almost invariably, they had the device with the highest
ID terminated, even if it was mid-cable.

SCSI terminators are simply SIL resistor packs.  Dead cheap.  Nearly all
SCSI HDs came with them fitted.  Occasionally, a separate terminator
device could be necessary, but they tended to be pricey for what they
were;  A resistor pack in a SCSI connector.

Just checking prices, SATA drive;1TB,  £35
  SCSI drive;  300GB, £192

So, if your SCSI HD goes down, getting a replacement is several orders
of magnitude more costly than SATA.  If you've got access to plenty of
free SCSI drives though...

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Re: [Hampshire] Recommendations for a SOHO duplex laser printer

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On Sun, 6 Feb 2011 10:06:12 -0500 (EST)
Andy Random andy.ran...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Andy,

 It *must* be capable of duplex printing and I don't mean manual
 duplex I want to be able to print 50 pages walk away and come back 10
 minutes later to find 25 sheets printed double sided waiting for me.

Tough call;  Nearly every printer, copier, whatnot I've used over the
years will, occasionally, pull two sheets of paper through.  The better
the paper and printer you use, the less chance of it happening.

 It has to be small enough to fit on the side table by my computer
 desk, it's a decent sized side table, so the printer doesn't have to
 be tiny, but I'm not looking for something the size of a photocopier.

Not sure what you mean by small, but I use an HP Business Inkjet 1200.
It comes with a duplexer, so that's that box ticked.  Footprint is
20(Width) x 16.5(Depth)[paper catcher in] / 23(Depth)[paper catcher
extended] x 8.25(Height).  In modern money;  51cm(W) x 42/58.5cm(D) x
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Re: [Hampshire] Any SANE experts?

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On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 23:33:23 +0100 (BST)
Vic l...@beer.org.uk wrote:

Hello Vic,

 Has anyone seen this before?

Sounds as though your usual user isn't a member of the scanner group.
I don't know how it's done in Fedora, unfortunately,  but once you've
added yourself, log out then back in again for the change to take effect.

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Man jailed over computer password refusal

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On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 17:39:32 +0100
Mark Johnson m...@barrenfrozenwasteland.com wrote:

Hello Mark,

 Try getting caught on a speed camera[1] and being asked to confirm who
 was driving your car, then you'll see if you've got the right to
 remain silent. Sad, but true.

A lot of legal wrangling goes on over this sort of issue(0). That is, the
presumption of innocence, and whether it was right to waive it.

Obviously, in this, and several other cases, it was deemed appropriate
to do so.

(0) My other half works within the legal profession, so I get to hear
about some of the goings-on.

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Re: [Hampshire] [Way OT] PVR recommendations

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On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 19:17:09 +0100
Rob Malpass li...@getiton.myzen.co.uk wrote:

Hello Rob,

 So basically this is the best of both worlds - if I know a programme
 (especially radio) is coming on - I can set the PVR to get it.   Or if
 I've missed something good (I'm a big Radio 4 fan but not in during
 the day) - I can get it via iplayer.

Why not consider a TV card, mythtv and get-iplayer on your computer,
rather than buy a dedicated PVR.  You could even add an additional hard
drive just to d/l radio and TV stuff to for a lot less than buying a PVR.

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Re: [Hampshire] Hmmm.....

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On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:40:16 +0100
John Cooper l...@discoverlinux.co.uk wrote:

Hello John,

 I think Deb'n'Ian is by far the stupidest name
 for a distro ;-)

Naah, that award goes to Mandriva.

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Re: [Hampshire] Hmmm.....

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On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:32:46 + (GMT)
Benjamin Ashton benashtonlakel...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hello Benjamin,

 Is it now time to give up on Linux and 'ask Bill'?

Try another distro.  Zenwalk might be a failure, but there are plenty of
other choices.  The only choice regarding Microsoft is the constant
necessity to upgrade hardware to keep up with the ever increasing
demands placed on it by their software.

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Re: [Hampshire] PV Panels

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On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 21:09:03 +0100
Roger Munford rogermunf...@parussoftware.co.uk wrote:

Hello Roger,

 possibilities. I am surprised how conservative the industry is. This 
 stuff should have been here years ago.

Double edged sword;  They won't manufacture it because there's no demand
and there's no demand because nobody manufactures it.

Anyhow, zoned heating is possible;  TRVs on radiatiors, but that's not
the most efficient way of doing it.  Underfloor heating is zoned by
default, be it a wet (heated water) or dry (electric) system.

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Re: [Hampshire] Radio 4 Click On

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On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:29:16 +0100
Edward Beckmann edward.beckm...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Edward,

 Why is there not a principle that: a)
 MPs must register their vote electronically;

They'd complain about X,Y and Z being outside their field of expertise,
probably.  Which is odd since, for the most part, they're a right bunch
of 'clever dicks'.

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Re: [Hampshire] Radio 4 Click On

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On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:28:01 +0100
Sean Gibbins s...@funkygibbins.me.uk wrote:

Hello Sean,

 You just have to look at the situation with drugs to see that expert 
 opinion - that is to say expert opinion solicited by the Government -
 is ignored in favour of the political safe bet.

Quite;  They like to be *seen* to be doing something.  They never want
to take /real/ action because then blame can be laid at their door.

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Re: [Hampshire] stuart biggs added you as a business connection on Plaxo

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On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:08:11 +
LinuxLearner passiveprof...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

Hello LinuxLearner,

 Cannot be bothered to potentially waste my time like that (I have no

If you can't be bothered, don't expect anybody to do it on your behalf.
Not that we could, anyway.

IOW, stop whining about something you're not prepared to try and
change.  It makes you sound like a petulant child.

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Re: [Hampshire] stuart biggs added you as a business connection on Plaxo

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On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:12:07 +
Keith Edmunds k...@midnighthax.com wrote:

Hello Keith,

 Or maybe he should stop using Windows...

It's not a Windows issue (much as it pains me to say it).

Plaxo, Twitter, Facebook, Bebo etc. have an option that allows them to
contract addresses that you have stored with an invite to join.  They
then ask for your Google, Yahoo, etc. passwords and send an invite to
any and all address contained therein.  It saves a lot of typing, but
people often include ML addresses in their addy books, so they get an
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Re: [Hampshire] stuart biggs added you as a business connection on Plaxo

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On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:29:06 +
Keith Edmunds k...@midnighthax.com wrote:

Hello Keith,

 It's not a Windows issue (much as it pains me to say it).  
 Oh! Thanks for the clarification.

You're welcome.

  Plaxo, Twitter, Facebook, Bebo etc. have an option that allows them
  to contract addresses that you have stored with an invite to join.
 Wow. No wonder 99% of the population have no idea about online
 security.

That sentence /should/ read:

No wonder 99% of the population have no idea about security.
(notice deletion of word _online_)   :-)

In general, people have no idea about security, it's true.  Plaxo, et al
are not to blame for that, though.  They just use the fact to their
advantage.

FB et al don't _store_ the passwords.  They're used in a single shot way;

Enter the relevant site using password provided by user
d/l the address book
dispose of all data, inc. passwords used
paste addresses into pro forma
email them

Or some variation on that.

The worst thing is that (certainly it's true at FB, not sure about the
others, as I don't have accounts with Twitter, Bebo, etc.) the password
is sent to FB in plain.

My MUAs address book has about 10 addresses in it, that's all.  Mailing
lists aren't there because Claws-Mail allows the setting of default
addresses on a per folder basis, meaning that the address book is
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Re: [Hampshire] stuart biggs added you as a business connection on Plaxo

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On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:50:55 +
LinuxLearner passiveprof...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

Hello LinuxLearner,

 Which in my view is most probably a breach of Data Protection Act

FB et al don't store the info, so the DPA doesn't apply.

 provisions.  e.g. I get regular 'invites' from Facebook, though I have
 never given Facebook consent to email me (nor ever given anyone I know

FB are just a tool, it's not them, but a *user* of that tool.

 consent to give Facebook my email).  This infuriates me, no end:  it's

You misunderstand, possibly;

Somebody, somewhere (doesn't matter who, or how they got the address),
has your email addy stored at (say) GMail.  That person decides to use
the FB option to mail all their friends invites.  You get one.  FB don't
send you a message then store the info and keep sending you stuff.  Also,
some FB invites aren't via FB at all but really are phishing attempts
from bogus sites.

 SPAM, plain and simple, which *big* business gets away with.

Have you actually contacted FB and asked them to add your email address
to a (for want of a better word) blacklist of un-interested people?  TBH,
I don't even know whether they operate such a scheme.

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Re: [Hampshire] Unscrupulous salesmen...

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On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:42:04 +0100
Tim Brocklehurst t...@engineering.selfip.org wrote:

Hello Tim,

 Hmmm, theft of IPR as well? I agree that the GPL allows you to resell

Yes, you're right, of course.  I was inexplicit.

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Re: [Hampshire] Unscrupulous salesmen...

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On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:44:29 +0100
Tim Brocklehurst t...@engineering.selfip.org wrote:

Hello Tim,

 I came across this thread this afternoon, and thought that it was
 worth bringing to everyone's attention. Essentially, an unscrupulous
 company has taken the Freship project, removed all references to the
 GPL, and put their own name on it, and are now selling it.

If only they'd left the GPL references in place.  Then, it wouldn't be
legally wrong.  Morally so, of course.

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Re: [Hampshire] Genealogy

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On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:11:08 +0100
Daniel Pope ma...@mauveweb.co.uk wrote:

Hello Daniel,

 I was just wondering what is the state of the art in genealogy under 

GRAMPS is pretty much the best, IMO.  There are other options, but I've
yet to see anything better.  It can be quite hard to get to grips with,
but is /extremely/ powerful.

Others are geneweb and lifelines.  The latter being text based.  I did
try geneweb, but didn't like it much.

 Linux? How do I get her started? Are there online resources I can
 point her to?

There's the GRAMPS wiki, and there's also a mailing list dedicated to
GRAMPS at gramps-us...@lists.sourceforge.net

For general genealogy resources, there are bucket loads of lists, forums
and whatnot at RootsWeb.

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Re: [Hampshire] Backup problem

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On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:10:14 +0100
Lisi hants...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hello Lisi,

 /home/./peter/.thunderbird/8qfkppsa.default/Mail/mailhost.zen.co.uk/Inbox 

should probably read;

/home/peter/.thunderbird/8qfkppsa.default/Mail/mailhost.zen.co.uk/Inbox

Note '/.' between '/home'  '/peter' has been removed.  The '.' has a
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Re: [Hampshire] Backup problem

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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:48:58 +0100
Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk wrote:

Hello Hugo,

Umm... what odd things, exactly?
 h...@selene:~ $ cp -r /home/./hrm/Mail/hlug/ /tmp
 h...@selene:~ $ 
Works for me. The . is simply a reference to the directory that

Erk.  Works for me here now, too.  Dunno what I muffed up when I tried
it earlier (bash history too short to get it back).

Let's put it down to me brain farting shall we?   :-)

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Re: [Hampshire] Konsole

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On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:04:39 +0100
Lisi hants...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hello Lisi,

 Yes, their website does list a shop in Dunster.  They obviously don't
 update their website very often.

Dunster is getting very expensive.

No surprise that shops are moving out.   :-((

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Re: [Hampshire] Not broke, but 'fixed' anyway

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On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:55:54 +0100
Chris. Aubrey-Smith cas...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Chris.,

 p.s. The most recent version of OpenOffice no longer 'greys out' the
 Save icon after the file has been saved, so there's no visible
 indication of the need for a further Save. G...

It puts an asterisk in the status bar at the bottom.  Although, it does
no harm to click the save button as the operation is ignored if the
document hasn't been modified since the last save.

However, like you, I'm of the opinion that this change is not an
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