Re: [Hampshire] SheevaPlugs and offshoots.
Hi, On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 at 10:30:50AM +0100, Clive Woodfine wrote: There has been some discussion lately about SheevaPlugs. Does anyone have any comments on using this device or their derivatives? Or better still willing to give a talk at the next Southampton BaB. I have been looking at the TonidoPlug which is reasonably priced and can be used for storage on the LAN which would probably be my main use. Has anyone bought on of these? I'd like to hear about these too? -- Adam Trickett In a new house in Overton, Hampshire, UK, The Earth, The Solar System... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] web script suggestions
Adrian, Normally I'd do this in Perl (and CGI library) because of PHP's pretty horrific security record, however I think it's time I took a fresh look to see what to use for the next N years. I'd like to write it in Ruby if possible, or Python as a second choice (sorry Adam). I don't really want a huge massive framework with all the hassle that involves - really I'm after a use ... library. For example looking at Ruby, there is a CGI library which allows you to perform the usual set/get forms helpers I want. There is also eruby to assist with the templates, however integrating the two seems a bit yucky. Using ERB seems perhaps slightly easier. Rails is just way too much framework for me. It doesn't metter which language you pick, all have high and low quality modules to use. Pick your language and chose the best of breed module/framework and you should be okay. I probably want to end up with something similar to: - script which has the controller logic in it and displays one of two templates - template with the form in it - template with the result in it Everything has a MVC framework, take you pick, even SAP supports that thesedays. If you use Perl then there is Catalyst which is popular, I'm sure each other language has it's own prefered MVC. The one caveat I'd say with MVCs in general is that they don't scale well, they are overly large and complex for small apps and very slow when the load gets high. If you application is very small then perhaps a conventional program using conventional modules may be in order. E.g. in Perl you'd use CGI and TT, I'm sure that other languages have their own. One final point I'd say is that whatever you decided to do, there is logic in using the langauge you are strongest in on an exposed web application... -- Adam -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 at 03:22:56PM +, Hugo Mills wrote: H.. :-( On investigation, it seems that all of the bad sigs (and some good ones) were sent from my server, which is what I use most of the time. I haven't yet found a bad signature on mails sent from my desktop machine. However, both machines have exactly the same mutt *and* gpg configuration -- they share a home directory, and /etc/Muttrc is identical on both machines. I did wonder, it seemed odd that your signatures would be bad. I've been meaning to mention it for ages but kept forgetting. I notice other people on various lists have problem signatures now and then and I do try and let people know when I can. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK Stupidity maintained long enough is a form of malice. -- Richard Bos's corollary -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] [ADMIN] Late breaking Meeting news
(this may be a duplicate posting - my first vanished) Hello, I'm affraid that the room Damian booked for us for next Saturday's meeting has been double booked - though I should add we did book it first. However, we rank lower than University students so we can't have the room for Saturday 10 January. Our options are: 1) Find another venue for next Saturday. 2) Find another date for our normal venue. 3) Both 1 and 2. What ever we do is obviously short notice. Suggestions? Offers? -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. -- Albert Einstein -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] Meetings
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 at 10:56:49PM +, Alan Bell wrote: Any chance of a weekday evening meeting (or daytime for that matter but I suspect evening would suit more people) from time to time. Saturdays are really not a good day for me at all. I'm not opposed to the idea, but I know a bring a box meeting on a Saturday is very popular. A tech meeting or social in the evening on a weekday is fine if it's possible to find a location and enough warm bodies. Our neighbours to the north only do a monthly social meeting in Reading at a pub (SCLUG) and the London.pm do more frequently than monthly social meetings with less frequent technical meetings. Surrey have done some pub meets as well as their normal Bring and Box meetings. Were you thinking of a pub meeting for a few hours after work, and if so where? Or were you thinking of a technical meeting - a few presentations and such? Given the limited time in an evening some people won't travel, which is a problem in a rural county like Hampshire. The London.pm have plenty of social meetings because it's easy on London to nip to the pub and get home at a sensible time, it's harder to arrange in Hampshire. http://www.sclug.org.uk/ http://london.pm.org/meetings/ http://www.surrey.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?PubMeets Alan. Hants LUG Chairman wrote: Hello, Just a quick reminder about our next two meetings. Saturday 13 December at the University of Surrey in Guildford with the Surrey LUG. Details on their web site: http://www.surrey.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?BringABox/UniversityOfSurrey In the new year, the next meeting will take place on Saturday 10 January at the University of Southampton. Details on our site: http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SeminarRoom1 TALKS: I'm giving a talk at the December meeting (a repeat I'm afraid) and if all goes well we will have a talk on digital photography in January. Lots of people have asked or volunteered to give talks and the talks page is getting a tad muddled so I'm planning to clean it up shortly. Now would be a really good time to re-volunteer for a talk so we can put you at the top of the list! Or if you want to learn about something we can try and coerce a speaker for you. In case I don't see you before the new year, Seasons Greetings and best wishes for the New Year. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever. -- Napoleon Bonaparte -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] I am a person not a PC...
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 at 09:24:59AM +, Victor Churchill wrote: 2008/12/5 Dr Adam J Trickett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't have to stop my business anymore because the computer needs constant rebooting That one is open to being parsed the wrong way Which is why I don't have a job in marketing! Though for my sins I was forced into the marketing department at work for 12 months - which I can only describe as the worst job I've ever done. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK In a world without walls - who needs windows? -- anon -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] I am a person not a PC...
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 at 11:06:11AM +, Alan Pope wrote: 2008/12/5 Dr Adam J Trickett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Though for my sins I was forced into the marketing department at work for 12 months - which I can only describe as the worst job I've ever done. Haha, another statement open to mis-interpretation :) Indeed In honest the job was crap and I probably did respond by not working well. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK My organ doesn't work properly and emits strange burning smells -- seen on Usenet -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] I am a person not a PC...
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 at 09:58:26AM +, The Holy ettlz wrote: On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 09:10 +, Paul Stimpson wrote: How about viruses? None Hmm, this isn't entirely true though, is it? There is a small ecosystem for Linux malware (cracked forum, anyone?) including a handful of viruses. There are in practice no real Linux viruses in the real world. That's not to say that there are not worms, Trojans and other forms of nasty things out there that hunt Linux systems. As you say it is an over simplification but even so there are tens of thousands of items of malware for Windows and less than hundreds for Linux. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with Windows. -- anon -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Asus EEE BOX ?
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 at 08:35:30AM +, Bob Dunlop wrote: Hi, On Tue, Nov 25 at 05:06, Andy Random wrote: If it was half the price I might have considered it (though even then the kit might end up in boxes for months) but for a saving of 20-30 quid, it really isn't worth it to me. Okay how about 79 quid, including VAT and delivery. Not quite the same spec but that's what I just got a Viglen MPC-L for thanks to Alan Popes pointer to the Ubuntu podcast. My dad has had his for three weeks now. It's not ultra fast but it's fast enough for him. 512Mb RAM, 80G hard drive, 400MHz Geode processor. As well as the bundled USB keyboard and mouse mine came with a 1GB USB Flash key in a separate box for some reason. The USB flash drive is a new give away! Not plugged it in yet, it was icey cold from transportation last night. It wil run a bit warmer than that, but it's pretty silent. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK I guess that, if you're in Microsoft's shoes, it makes sense. If you can't write software or protocols that can stably walk and chew gum, program in a limit that prevents the user from telling it to do so. -- Jonathan Patschke, on limitations in Active Directory -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Anyone know the Debian boot sequence?
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 at 02:59:59PM -, Vic wrote: I've got a Debian machine - mostly Etch, but it's been hacked at a bit. It doesn't boot. I've traced the boot sequence to the end of init in the initrd image, at which point it calls run-init. Do you have any other initrd files to try and boot from? do they all suffer the same fate? If you boot the file system with a live disk is it good? could you try a chroot to rebuild the initrd? It never gets to /sbin/init on the main filesystem (which is where it's heading). That doesn't sound like fun... -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK Reality leaves a lot to the imagination. -- John Lennon -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Debian Lenny + Firefox 2.0.0.17 + Prefbar Correction to first email.
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 at 10:22:15AM +0100, Phillip Chandler wrote: Hi Everyone. Heres todays brain teaser. I installed Debian Lenny on my laptop (Dell Inspiron 1200) last week. I removed Iceweasel using apt-get remove iceweasel, and then ran nautilus as root, and deleted all folders relating to mozilla. I then unzipped firefox 2.x.17 into my home folder, installed libstdc ++5, created a link to the right file and it ran perfectly. Why, what is wrong with Iceweasel? it's just Firefox without the Mozilla branding and Firefox name. It works fine for me with normal Firefox add-ons. Other than a logo you wouldn't know you you were not using Firefox. I then installed prefbar and firefox then suffered from severe lag when going through the bookmarks. So I tried changing xorg to no effect. So then for some reason I uninstalled firefox and installed iceweasel and it ran normally with bookmnarks and no lag. So trying again I reinstalled firefox, imported my bookmarks (WITHOUT prefbar installed) and again there was no lag. * Should have been Without prefbar installed NOT With prefbar installed * I really need to concentrate on my typing skills, or at least read before hitting Send So Im pretty sure, by the philosophy of Sherlock Holmes, that it is an incompatibility issue with Firefox 2.x Prefbar under Debian Lenny. Lenny uses Firefox 3.x not 2.x, Etch uses a 2.x version. It's possible that a bad add-on is making it all fall to pieces, many of them are very buggy. So I was wondering if you lads / Ladies had any suggestions. Im wanting to get back to Debian as I prefer the rolling release long term support, rather than the Ubuntu 6 month release cycle. Ubuntu has been great as a step into the Linux world, and has taught me many wonderfull things, but now Im eager to move on. Which is why I run Debian. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK Linux users hate mixed case names, yet Linux supports it. Windows users love mixed case names, but Windows doesn't support it. -- Andrew Tridgell -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Debian Lenny + Firefox 2.0.0.17 + Prefbar Correction to first email.
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 at 01:16:22PM +0100, Phillip Chandler wrote: Why, what is wrong with Iceweasel? it's just Firefox without the Mozilla branding and Firefox name. It works fine for me with normal Firefox add-ons. Other than a logo you wouldn't know you you were not using Firefox. Unfortunately whether I use Iceweasel or firefox, the same problem happens. And as you say, iceweasel is just firefox without the branding. But this doesnt mean that a problem in firefox would also not work in iceweasel. I suspect it's a bug in the add-on rather in firethingy. I've had one that crashed X! My non technical idea is that lenny (and iceweasel) are done so that they both work well together, without the MS integration of win xp IE, whereas they have taken ff and taken out all the branding and maybe changed a few other things, which could effectively make it not work so well under lenny, but iceweasel does. It should just work, but you installing a 3rd-party add-on could break it. I've had a nice app that broke things, they do exisit and can cause problems. I would not assue it's you or your browser thats at fault it could be the extra bit you added in. But not being as technical as you chaps, Im only guessing because of whats happened. Regardless of what browser ver 2.x I have, prefbar doesnt work 100%, which under ubuntu ff 2.0.17 works great. So just wanting to see if there was some switch I needed to change, or add something to about:config etc. That's could be a place to look, but be careful you can seriously screw things up! I'd do a google search for the add-on and the bug description you have and see if anyone else has seen it first though. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK Reality leaves a lot to the imagination. -- John Lennon -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
