Re: [Hampshire] ON HOLD - Portsmouth & SE Hants LUG - 21st October

[Tim via Hampshire]

As they say Paul, it never rains but it pours

All the best to both you and your wife

Tim H

On 11/10/2023 15:46, Paul Tansom via Hampshire wrote:
A quick, and hopefully early enough email to catch everyone, to say 
that I'm putting the next Portsmouth LUG meet on hold as there's a 
good chance it won't go ahead. I'm currently on the spinal ward in 
Southampton General Hospital and am unsure what's next, when I'll be 
out and how I'll be when I am (just when I'm supposed to be supporting 
my wife through chemo!).


Anyway, assume it is off unless I send an email stating otherwise.

Many thanks,
Paul
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Re: [Hampshire] Jammy and SMB v1.0

[Tim via Hampshire]

Not sure where you look but is it possible that SMBv1.0 has been turned 
ogg on the non working PC as it is no longer support etc etc.



Does this help:

https://www.ncomp.co.za/index.php/about-us/niel-blog/36-how-to-enable-smbv1-in-ubuntu-20-04-so-i-can-browse-my-old-nas


Tim H


On 31/08/2023 16:38, rmluglist2--- via Hampshire wrote:


Hi all

A real curious one this…   I have an old NAS box which only accepts 
SMBv1.0 connections.   I can connect to it:


Sudo mount – t cifs sharename mountpoint -o 
username=foo,uid=bar,gid=foobar,vers=1.0


from one of my Ubuntu jammy boxes with no problem.   A newer machine 
(fresh install – but exactly the same version of jammy – identical 
output from lsb_release -a) gives the mount.cifs(5) error Input / 
Output error with exactly the same command that worked on the first 
box.   It goes as far as asking for my password on the NAS box so it’s 
not a connection or permissions thing.


Doing a quick dmesg reveals that VFS CIFS SMBV1.0 is not recommended 
blah blah blah.   Said NAS is a proprietary OS and I can’t patch it to 
go beyond v1.0


So looks like there’s some sort of setting on the working box that’s 
not being replicated on the non-working box.   Both contain the same 
version of samba (i.e. samba –version) throws up the same response on 
both boxes so I’m a bit stumped.   This is a difficult thing to google 
for as there are so many parameters: most references to samba v1.0 
seem to be for those trying to get their new server to speak v1.0 
whereas I’m trying to get a client to connect.


As ever – thanks in advance.

Rob

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Re: [Hampshire] How to connect Android phone to Debian system

[Tim via Hampshire]

Hi Peter,


Don't want to keep throwing links at you but I had two saved when I was 
playing with Debian on my other laptop. The other link I had was this one


https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/n2skx6/connecting_android_phone/

I never completed getting mine to work as I ended up replacing the hard 
drive and re-installed a different (debian based) distro



Hope it helps


Tim H


On 29/04/2023 17:02, Peter Alefounder via Hampshire wrote:

Tim said:

I found this a while ago

https://tomsalmon.eu/2020/01/mounting-android-phone-over-usb-on-debian/

Not sure how relevant it is now a days

Thanks Tim. That didn't work, but the CLI did provide a possibly more
informative error message:

error returned by libusb_claim_interface() = -6LIBMTP PANIC: Unable to
initialize device
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'MtpErrorCantOpenDevice'
   what():  Can't open device

The phone itself has instructions for file transfer with Windows and Mac
computers, but not Linux. As Android is based on Linux, that seems a
little odd to me.

I have found a way to contact the manufacturer, Motorola. Maybe they can
solve the problem.

Peter Alefounder.
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Re: [Hampshire] How to connect Android phone to Debian system

[Tim via Hampshire]

Hi Peter

I found this a while ago

https://tomsalmon.eu/2020/01/mounting-android-phone-over-usb-on-debian/

Not sure how relevant it is now a days


Tim H


On 27/04/2023 12:38, Peter Alefounder via Hampshire wrote:

I have a computer running Debian 11 and a new phone with Android
13. How do I access the Android file system from the computer via
USB? A web search suggests MTP, but I have not been able to get
that to work. I can use tethering via USB, so there is nothing
wrong the connection.

I have go-mtpfs, lib-mtp-common, lib-mtp-runtime and libmtp9
installed.

If I plug in the phone it is recognised as a Portable Media Player,
moto g23, but selecting "Browse Files with File Manager" just gives
a small window with the title "Er..ec ?" containing a red dialog
box with a large X, the text /moto 23, and an OK button.

Selecting "View Photos with File Manager" produces a similar small
window except the title is "Erro...Exec ?" and the text is "Unknown
error Bad Parameters"

Any ideas?

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Re: [Hampshire] Equipment Giveaway!

[Tim Brocklehurst via Hampshire]

Hi Rob,

Yes, they are all on rails installed in the rack at the moment.
The rack is a Dell 24U, approximate dimensions are: 1.2m high, 1m deep,
0.6m wide.

Cheers,

Tim B.

On Wed, 2021-03-03 at 10:31 +, rmluglist2--- via Hampshire wrote:
> Hi Tim
> 
> [snip]
> 
> Do any of these come with rails?   If so, I'm potentially interested:
> identically specced machines make ideal nodes for my cluster.   Why
> rails?   Because none of my current setup has them which causes
> problems of its own.   I might even take the rack off your hands
> (what size is it?)
> 
> Trouble is: I'm north of Manchester so I'd imagine it would have to
> wait until someone's visiting these parts - which might be quite a
> while.   Let me know if this is of any interest and I might look into
> hiring a firm to take the lot off your hands.
> 
> Cheers
> Rob
> 
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[Hampshire] Equipment Giveaway!

[Tim Brocklehurst via Hampshire]

Hi guys,

I have a load of kit which I want to get rid of. If you want to throw a
few coppers my way for it, great. The equipment is below, most of it is
working (or thought to be working at the time of writing):

10x Dell Poweredge SC1425
   - 2005 Vintage
   - Twin Intel Xeon 3.0GHz
   - 6GiB DDR2 Ram

10x Dell Poweredge 1950
   - 2008 Vintage
   - 9x working
   - Twin quad core Xeon E5410 2.33GHz
   - 8GiB DDR2 Ram
   - 8x machines have SAS card and backplane

1x Dell 24U rack (top hinge missing)

Various parts for PE1950s (only if you take a machine!)

Spare Power supplies for PE1950s

If you're near Gosport (Southampton/Portsmouth area) I can deliver it
in a COVID secure manner (except the rack, that's collection only -
it'll fit in a large estate car (just)), or you can collect. If you're
further afield let me know and I'll put the kit aside until we can
travel more freely.

Please let me know before Sunday evening 7th March, otherwise it'll be
going to the tip.

Cheers,

Tim B.



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Re: [Hampshire] DDR2 RAM (non-eec)

[Tim via Hampshire]

Hi Matt

Sorry despite the paper label saying they are 4GB they are in fact 2gb 
sticks, 4 in total


On 17/02/2021 17:32, Tim via Hampshire wrote:


Hi Matt

Yes I have 4 x 4gb stick of corsair XMS2

Let me know if you are interested

If you let me know your email address I will ping you a couple on images

Tim

On 17/02/2021 17:09, Tim via Hampshire wrote:


Hi Matt

I may have let me check and get back to you.

Tim

On 17/02/2021 11:23, Matthew Withers via Hampshire wrote:

Hi,

does anyone have any non-ecc DDR2 RAM going spare?

Ideally two 4gb sticks?

Cheers,

Matt
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Re: [Hampshire] DDR2 RAM (non-eec)

[Tim via Hampshire]

Hi Matt

Yes I have 4 x 4gb stick of corsair XMS2

Let me know if you are interested

If you let me know your email address I will ping you a couple on images

Tim

On 17/02/2021 17:09, Tim via Hampshire wrote:


Hi Matt

I may have let me check and get back to you.

Tim

On 17/02/2021 11:23, Matthew Withers via Hampshire wrote:

Hi,

does anyone have any non-ecc DDR2 RAM going spare?

Ideally two 4gb sticks?

Cheers,

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Re: [Hampshire] DDR2 RAM (non-eec)

[Tim via Hampshire]

Hi Matt

I may have let me check and get back to you.

Tim

On 17/02/2021 11:23, Matthew Withers via Hampshire wrote:

Hi,

does anyone have any non-ecc DDR2 RAM going spare?

Ideally two 4gb sticks?

Cheers,

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Re: [Hampshire] DDR2 RAM (non-eec)

[Tim via Hampshire]

On 17/02/2021 11:23, Matthew Withers via Hampshire wrote:

Hi,

does anyone have any non-ecc DDR2 RAM going spare?

Ideally two 4gb sticks?

Cheers,

Matt
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Re: [Hampshire] Server for mutual aid group

[Tim Brocklehurst via Hampshire]

Hi Bryn,
Previous replies attached.
Tim B.
On Sat, 2020-03-28 at 09:33 +, Bryn Jones via Hampshire wrote:
> Hi,
> I had a couple of responses to my question if someone had a spare
> server and was offered a couple of vps but in all honesty I deleted
> them by mistake (hey it was 2am and I'd been working since 9am gimme
> a break lol) if either of the 2 people who replied can get back to me
> again it would be so appreciated and I promise not to delete them (I
> archive everything but some bad clicking!)
> 
> Thx
> Bryn
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Hello Bryn.

On Tuesday, 24 March, 2020, you wrote
> I'm doing tech stuff for these guys (they do,
> shopping, meds pick ups etc right now) we
> desperately need a server, it does need to have
> some guts but anything is a start!

Do you need a physical server, or would a virtual
one do?

If the latter, try Bitfolk:
https://www.bitfolk.co.uk/
They offer Xen-based virtual servers, and are
highly recommended.

Nick.

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What sort of spec are we after?

Can possibly give you access to a decent number of cores + memory on a 
virtual if needed?


Regards,

Chris

On 24/03/2020 11:55, Bryn Jones via Hampshire wrote:

Hi,

I'm doing tech stuff for these guys (they do, shopping, meds pick 
ups etc right now) we desperately need a server, it does need to have 
some guts but anything is a start!


If you can help it would be massively appreciated and help us deliver 
services.


Thanks
Bryn

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I have some older Dell's (2930 / R410 / R610's) I'm sure I could get
something of some use together for you.

Contact me off list if you want.

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hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm doing tech stuff for these guys (they do, shopping, meds pick ups etc
> right now) we desperately need a server, it does need to have some guts but
> anything is a start!
>
> If you can help it would be massively appreciated and help us deliver
> services.
>
> Thanks
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Re: [Hampshire] Raspberry PI

[Tim Brocklehurst via Hampshire]

Another thought is to use a series of Esp8266 devices with rwlay and temp sensors (somebody must have done one), and then central control from a PC/Pi over wifi. Sent from my Huawei phone Original Message Subject: [Hampshire] Raspberry PIFrom: Adam John Trickett via Hampshire To: Hants LUG CC: Adam John Trickett Bonjour !I have finally found a use for a Raspberry Pi...! Since moving to France we have ended up with a house with stupid electrically heated oil filled radiators. They are not properly controlled and quite inefficient, at best you can control them on a thermostat but there is no clock...It seems obvious that all I need is a thermometer, a mains relay a Raspberry Pi and some some software to create a time controlled thermostat that I can SSH into...!So I think I needa boxa AC/DC transformer for the Pia mains relaya digital thermometeran override switchsomething to mount the relay and transformer onWiFi Pi or WiFi module for Pi depending on modelI think this is technically easy to do, but the biggest constraint seems to be that the overall box needs to be small and "wife friendly"...-- Adam TrickettSaint-Malo, Bretagne, FranceAny technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced	-- anon-- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.ukWeb Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshireLUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk 
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Re: [Hampshire] Raspberry PI

[Tim Brocklehurst via Hampshire]

I have  C++ lib for DHT22 if you need it. Sent from my Huawei phone Original Message Subject: Re: [Hampshire] Raspberry PIFrom: Paul Tansom via Hampshire To: hampshire@mailman.lug.org.ukCC: Paul Tansom ** Adam John Trickett via Hampshire  [2019-02-19 12:08]:> On Monday, 18 February 2019 20:04:20 CET Tim Brocklehurst via Hampshire wrote:> > Oh, for digital thermometers, look at the DS18B20 one-wire sensors. They're> > easy to read and come in various packages. > > That's the one I've seen on various Google searches so far, seems popular, and > simple to work with.** end quote [Adam John Trickett via Hampshire]I went for a DHT22 as I needed humidity as well... and still haven't gotround to using it yet!--  Paul Tansom  |  Aptanet Ltd.  |  https://www.aptanet.com/  |  023 9238 0001 Vice Chair, FSB Portsmouth & SE Hampshire Branch  |  http://www.fsb.org.uk/=Registered in England | Company No: 4905028 | Registered Office: Ralls House,Parklands Business Park, Forrest Road, Denmead, Waterlooville, Hants, PO7 6XP-- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.ukWeb Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshireLUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk 
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Re: [Hampshire] Raspberry PI

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Oh, for digital thermometers, look at the DS18B20 one-wire sensors. They're easy to read and come in various packages. Sent from my Huawei phone-- 
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Re: [Hampshire] Raspberry PI

[Tim Brocklehurst via Hampshire]

How about this for the relay side of things?https://czh-labs.com/-p0198.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiAzKnjBRDPARIsAKxfTRAEdBVGf803UV1Gs99uRIiE2-Eg6pPYEpWFvF0pXhEaUpcJrIh014QaAjIQEALw_wcBYou could also stack a touchscreen on it. Sounds like you're on the right track. Cheers,Tim B. Sent from my Huawei phone-- 
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Re: [Hampshire] On the scroung: Working 20-120Gb IDE HDD

[Tim via Hampshire]

On 17/02/2019 12:25, Rob Malpass via Hampshire wrote:


Hi all

I’m trying to resurrect an old Sun machine but struggling to find a 
(3.5” IDE) hdd small enough (120Gb the limit apparently). I’m loathe 
to buy one off ebay (you just never know) despite their being very cheap.


Does anyone have such a drive they _know_ is working they’d be 
prepared to send to me for free?   Obviously I’ll pay postage.


Cheers

R


I have several 3.5" ide drives, I think they range from 4GB to 40GB and 
when last checked they were working



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Re: [Hampshire] Document Management Systems

[Tim via Hampshire]

On 15/11/2018 11:26, Roger Munford via Hampshire wrote:

Dear All,

I am on the local residents association committee which generates a 
quite a bit of documentation through its various activities and there 
is a paper archive stretching back to the 30's.


It has been suggested that we should digitise it. At the same time 
most of the current documentation is held as emails and attachments so 
I thought it would make sense to see if there was a document 
management system which would suit our needs or standards to follow.


I was wondering if anybody had similar experience and had any advice 
to offer.


Regards

Roger Munford


Having been in similar position for a company I was working for, I can 
not stress enough of the importance of having the right person (better 
still persons) that does the scanning. Regardless of how good the 
program that you use to index and archive the files, if the person doing 
the scanning does not understand what they are scanning then what is 
scanned will be worthless.


It would be far better to have a group of people that do the scanning so 
that when illness stop one member of the group or somebody leaves and 
other people that replace them that there is a continuity to the 
scanning from start to finish, so that a high standard of sorting and 
prepping of the paperwork is carried out.


The sorting and prepping of paperwork will include removing all staples, 
paper clips and other type of paper bindings. Cleaning the paper, dust 
will ruin the scan images and will require that the scanner is serviced. 
Unfolding the pages so that they don't jam up the scanner paper feed (I 
would recommend getting a scanner with a page feeder rather than a flat 
bed scanner).


Once scanned you will need to decide what to do with the paperwork its 
self, some of it may be of historical importance and needs to be kept 
while other paperwork can be destroyed.


I have used the Kodak Alaris i1150 which is a good desk scanner for the 
likes of a receptionist or accounts person to scan those bits of paper 
that come in via post and for bigger batches of scanning we used the 
Fujitsu fi 6670A which was used for processing large batches of 
paperwork (both in a Windows world though although there are linux 
drivers for the Kodak device from Kodak).


Also don't forget to consider the storage and backup of the archive that 
you produce, stored on a single hard disk of somebody's PC is not going 
to be ideal.


Hope it helps

Tim



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[Hampshire] SSL Certificate and Firefox 63 Urgent Read

[Tim via Hampshire]

I found this on the net earlier, I don't know much about the background 
story to it but if any of you guys get SSL Certificate that have come 
via Symantec then you might want to read this to save yourself some grief.



https://www.fxsitecompat.com/en-CA/docs/2018/symantec-geotrust-rapidssl-thawte-verisign-certificates-will-all-be-distrusted-in-october-2018/


Tim H


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Re: [Hampshire] Rogue Drive Errors

[Tim via Hampshire]

Could it be that the hard drive just needed to be reseated, the errors 
coming from a dodgy connection?


Tim


On 05/01/18 16:08, Rob Malpass via Hampshire wrote:


Hi all

I can’t explain this – perhaps someone else can.   I have a 2TB 3.5” 
ext4 formatted internal drive (bought only in December) which was 
reporting errors yesterday.   At the time, it was connected via USB 
Icybox JBOD and threw out more “short read” errors than I could 
count.   I left it running


e2fsck –y /dev/blablabla

overnight and it was still reporting errors this morning.   Getting 
fed up (and not wanting to write the unit off), I did


mkfs /dev/blablabla

and when I fired up rsync again – same type of IO errors.   At this 
point I wrote the drive off and used a spare for my purposes.


Curious to see if I could get any more information from the failing 
drive, I then moved it into a USB docking station on a different 
machine.   Running e2fsck again and I got a clean filesystem (no new 
formatting or anything).


Worried that this meant the drive was fine and potentially that 
particular bay in the (4 bay) Icybox might be the culprit, I moved the 
rogue drive back into the JBOD (same bay) and guess what – clean bill 
of health from e2fsck.


So in short I have the same drive reporting errors, reformatted 
reporting errors, physically moved clean, then physically moved back 
clean.   I’ve never been too hot on the rather low level way Linux 
handles disks – but I do want to know if the effing thing is good to 
use or not.


Is a clean e2fsck result good enough?   If so, were the hundreds of 
errors it was chucking out safely ignorable?    Have I missed anything 
obvious?


Cheers

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Re: [Hampshire] Colour Printer Replacement

[Tim via Hampshire]

On 21/07/17 10:03, Roger Munford via Hampshire wrote:
Our HP colour laser printer which is quite old now must be replaced. A 
repair seems out of the question I assume because nobody seems to 
repair these days. It is a pity because we have quite a bit of toner 
left.


Does anybody have any recommendations or warnings of a replacement. It 
is the normal home office sort of usage probably quite low.


I am not particularly wedded to any technology, just reliability.

Regards

Roger


I have a HP M277 which is a network or USB  colour scanner, copier, and  
printer. Once you install the Debian HP bits it found the printer with 
very little setup (mine is on my network). I have not been able to 
control the scanning via Linux (but I have a windows PC so I have not 
tried that hard). The printing side is just works, I scan to a folder 
but this folder is on my Nas  so I have not tried scanning to a folder 
on Linux. (done the scan to folder several times on windows PC as we 
have a couple of these at work so provided the folder was accessible via 
the network I can not see any issue). You should be able to pick up one 
of these for around the £200 mark



Regards


Tim


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Re: [Hampshire] (no subject)

[Tim via Hampshire]

On 01/06/17 07:05, Arthur Bradley via Hampshire wrote:

Please unsubscribe me. Hi


By



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Regards


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Re: [Hampshire] Raspberry Pi based Air quality monitoring project

[Tim via Hampshire]

On 09/05/17 13:32, Thomas Kluyver via Hampshire wrote:

On Tue, May 9, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Roger Munford via Hampshire wrote:

They have raced ahead developing the monitor but have now reached the
point of early deployment and have come against an unexpected problem.
How to organise themselves. They are about to receive some grant funding
but need some sort of organisation to account for cash flow, insurance
and some expenses so far small but becoming significant. They want to be
non profit making and totally open source as you would expect butt hey
need advice on a structure. Any suggestions?

It might be sufficient to organise as a university society - it's not
unusual for student societies to handle some money. The sailing robot
project I presented a couple of months ago is organised as the 'Maritime
Robotics Student Society', and we were able to accept some money from
the university and manage it through the university finance system.

I don't know much about the organisational side of our project, but I
could put them in touch with the people who do if they want to know more
about what we did.

Thomas


Does the Project have a web page?


Tim


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Re: [Hampshire] DAT as a backup medium

[Tim via Hampshire]

On 22/04/17 12:37, Rob Malpass via Hampshire wrote:


I agree with just about everything that’s been said – though prior to 
one of the replies I didn’t know what an archive disk was.


The problem for me is

a)Cost

b)Durability

Agree that HDD should last for a few years – but we’ve all seen hdds 
fail.   From what I’ve read, unless you can spread your backups across 
sites (which may be an option) but tape seems the most durable 
solution – optical disks are nowhere near reliable for data you don’t 
want to lose.


I find it amazing hdd technology (which we’ve has since the 70s) is 
still the medium of preference.   When someone finally does crack this 
(I guess when SSDs do finally take over in terms of capacity and 
price) we’ll all look back on HDD as rather primitive. I guess we’re 
just in that period of limbo!


Cheers

Rob

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YMMV, but I personally have a PC in an another building, running 
backupPC  and connected by WiFi.

Your own private 'cloud' would also be an option.

I use my garage, but a friendly neighbour who would reciprocate may 
also be an option.


I tend to use Unison for cloning from one machine to another.

G.

On 21/04/17 15:55, Rob Malpass via Hampshire wrote:

Hi all

Is DAT still a viable backup medium if you want USB and to avoid
optical disks?

I’ve got about 8Tb to backup and for various reasons don’t fancy:
LTO, BluRay, Cloud or HDD (i.e. NAS).   I know DAT’s quite old
(and I might even be forced to use DAT160 because of cost) but if
it’ll do the archiving (write once read seldom) job I have in mind
for 8Tb (even if that’s a lot of tapes) I’d be happy.

Thanks

Rob

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Then you use multiple disks, dependant on how exact your 8TB is you 
could get away with a pair of 8TB disks set up in raid just to mirror 
each other.  If you have more than 8TB of data you will need 3 disks and 
move to raid3. I think you will find that a hard disk is more resilient 
than a tape (of any kind), recovery of a file is a lot quicker and in 
the event of a fire, there is a good chance that you can still recover 
data from a burnt disk which you won't be able to do with a molten lump 
of plastic that was once your tape eve if stored is some fireproof cabinets.



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Re: [Hampshire] DAT as a backup medium

[Tim via Hampshire]

On 21/04/17 15:55, Rob Malpass via Hampshire wrote:


Hi all

Is DAT still a viable backup medium if you want USB and to avoid 
optical disks?


I’ve got about 8Tb to backup and for various reasons don’t fancy: LTO, 
BluRay, Cloud or HDD (i.e. NAS).   I know DAT’s quite old (and I might 
even be forced to use DAT160 because of cost) but if it’ll do the 
archiving (write once read seldom) job I have in mind for 8Tb (even if 
that’s a lot of tapes) I’d be happy.


Thanks

Rob


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Your biggest problem will be the amount of data you have to backup, 8TB, 
an LTO 7 drive only does 6TB native (15TB compressed), In the quick 
search I did I could only find a couple LTO 7 Desktop drives with SAS 
interface but expect to pay upwardly of £2600 + SAS Interface card + SAS 
Cable + Tapes so you are not going to have much change out of £3500.


A plain sata 3.5" 8TB Archive disk will set you back about £260. Buy a 
couple of those and a cheap NAS enclosure for a lot less than £600


Take your pick

Tim


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Re: [Hampshire] Any of you guys after a Job in Portsmouth?

[Tim via Hampshire]

I have also done the same and forwarded to the Dorset list

Tim

On 07/02/17 11:57, Aaron West via Hampshire wrote:

Hi Guys,

It's been years since I last posted on here at all but I'm in a bit of 
a bind looking for a good support engineer for our team.


Key skills are of course Linux but also some networking and Microsoft 
server product knowledge would be nice...


Anyone interested please pop me an email with your CV to 
aa...@loadbalancer.org <mailto:aa...@loadbalancer.org>, the job is 
advertised on TotalJobs so for more info check the advert here : 
https://www.totaljobs.com/job/technical-support-engineer/web-recruit-ltd-job67660687?entryurl=%2fjobs%2fsupport%2fin-portsmouth%3fradius%3d10%2367660687


Aaron West





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Re: [Hampshire] USB Wifi dongles

[Tim via Hampshire]

On 18/08/16 16:43, Chris Smith via Hampshire wrote:

Hi Tim,

Many thanks for the offer, but I’ve already given Amazon my money based on 
Matthew’s recommendation.

Regards,
Chris


On 18 Aug 2016, at 16:39, Tim via Hampshire <hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> 
wrote:

On 18/08/16 12:18, Chris Smith via Hampshire wrote:

Hi all,

Can anyone recommend a USB WiFi dongle that supports promiscuous/monitor mode?  
I’m trying to debug a wireless device but none of my built-in WiFi adaptors 
allow me to do it.

Regards,
Chris
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Chris I have a couple of Wifi Dongles, I don't know if they do what you want. 
One is a Zyxel O-202, the other is a Sitecom WL117 but I am quite happy to let 
you have them if you want, send me your address off list and I will post them 
to you


Tim


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Not a problem


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Re: [Hampshire] USB Wifi dongles

[Tim via Hampshire]

On 18/08/16 12:18, Chris Smith via Hampshire wrote:

Hi all,

Can anyone recommend a USB WiFi dongle that supports promiscuous/monitor mode?  
I’m trying to debug a wireless device but none of my built-in WiFi adaptors 
allow me to do it.

Regards,
Chris
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Chris I have a couple of Wifi Dongles, I don't know if they do what you 
want. One is a Zyxel O-202, the other is a Sitecom WL117 but I am quite 
happy to let you have them if you want, send me your address off list 
and I will post them to you



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Re: [Hampshire] Annual General Meeting - Future of the LUG

[Tim Brocklehurst via Hampshire]

Good evening everybody,

I'm pleased to announce that the AGM will be held in the Mucky Duck in
Winchester at 7:30pm on the 31st August.

I hope to see lots of you there. Don't forget to register!

Tim B.

> Hello everybody,
>
> Sparked by the imminent renewal of the HantsLUG domain name, the committee
> has recently been discussing the future of the group. If there was
> significant mailing list traffic we would just renew it without concern,
> however, as there has been very little traffic, the question of whether
> the LUG should continue has been raised. We are therefore calling a
> meeting to determine the future of the LUG. A copy of the constitution is
> available on the website, should you wish to view it.
>
> In order to register to vote at the meeting, please e-mail
> webmas...@hantslug.org.uk with subject "votereg" please include your name
> in the e-mail.
>
> Details of the date and location will follow in a second e-mail. I would
> urge everyone to attend if at all possible. Ultimately, it's your LUG and
> up to you to decide it's future.
>
> If this meeting is not quorate (at least eight voting members, or ten
> percent (10%) of the total voting membership, whichever is the greater)
> the committee will hold a further general meeting to decide what happens
> next.
>
> We have three options (this will form the agenda for the meeting):
>
> 1) A new committee is elected and the LUG continues as normal. Existing
> committee members can stand for re-election. I will not be standing. -
> Please submit nominations to chair...@hantslug.org.uk
>
> 2) The committee is disbanded and the constitution suitably updated to
> enable a sole LUG member to act as benefactor; to maintain the mailing
> list and optionally the website as they see fit with a suitable degree of
> consultation from the membership. In this case the current LUG funds will
> not be handed over to the benefactor.
>
> 3) The group is wound up. The mailing list and website will be taken
> off-line and the domain-name either retained for 12 months, or given to
> another LUG in Hampshire. No funds will be retained (see below).
>
> For either option 2 or 3, no funds will be retained. This does not prevent
> long-term purchase of domain name and services by the current committee,
> prior to the funds being distributed. For distribution, the following is
> suggested:
>
> a) Nominations for suitable open-source projects/LUGs/Makerspaces etc. are
> called for, over a period of a week. A list of all nominations will be
> posted by the chairman. Nominations must be linux-related, open-source or
> charitable, and not for personal gain; makerspaces are acceptable.
>
> b) The members vote for their preferred nomination (1 vote per member) by
> e-mail. Over the course of one week.
>
> c) The votes are counted and the remaining LUG funds are split between the
> top 5 nominations by percentage of votes. This will be announced on the
> mailing list.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Tim Brocklehurst
>
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>
>
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Re: [Hampshire] Annual General Meeting - Future of the LUG

[Tim B via Hampshire]

Yes, that is in effect option 2.

Tim B.

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On 11 Aug 2016, 9:11 p.m., at 9:11 p.m., Tony Whitmore via Hampshire 
<hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>Hi Tim,
>
>On 10/08/16 22:59, Tim Brocklehurst via Hampshire wrote:
>> We have three options (this will form the agenda for the meeting):
>>
>> 1) A new committee is elected and the LUG continues as normal.
>Existing
>> committee members can stand for re-election. I will not be standing.
>-
>> Please submit nominations to chair...@hantslug.org.uk
>>
>> 2) The committee is disbanded and the constitution suitably updated
>to
>> enable a sole LUG member to act as benefactor; to maintain the
>mailing
>> list and optionally the website as they see fit with a suitable
>degree of
>> consultation from the membership. In this case the current LUG funds
>will
>> not be handed over to the benefactor.
>>
>> 3) The group is wound up. The mailing list and website will be taken
>> off-line and the domain-name either retained for 12 months, or given
>to
>> another LUG in Hampshire. No funds will be retained (see below).
>
>Is just leaving the hants.lug.org.uk domain and the mailing list intact
>
>an option? Presumably that is zero cost and would allow what little
>traffic there is to the mailing list (and whatever to the website) to
>continue.
>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Tim Brocklehurst
>>
>
>Thanks to you and the other committee members for you efforts in
>keeping
>things ticking over.
>
>Tony
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[Hampshire] Annual General Meeting - Future of the LUG

[Tim Brocklehurst via Hampshire]

Hello everybody,

Sparked by the imminent renewal of the HantsLUG domain name, the committee
has recently been discussing the future of the group. If there was
significant mailing list traffic we would just renew it without concern,
however, as there has been very little traffic, the question of whether
the LUG should continue has been raised. We are therefore calling a
meeting to determine the future of the LUG. A copy of the constitution is
available on the website, should you wish to view it.

In order to register to vote at the meeting, please e-mail
webmas...@hantslug.org.uk with subject "votereg" please include your name
in the e-mail.

Details of the date and location will follow in a second e-mail. I would
urge everyone to attend if at all possible. Ultimately, it's your LUG and
up to you to decide it's future.

If this meeting is not quorate (at least eight voting members, or ten
percent (10%) of the total voting membership, whichever is the greater)
the committee will hold a further general meeting to decide what happens
next.

We have three options (this will form the agenda for the meeting):

1) A new committee is elected and the LUG continues as normal. Existing
committee members can stand for re-election. I will not be standing. -
Please submit nominations to chair...@hantslug.org.uk

2) The committee is disbanded and the constitution suitably updated to
enable a sole LUG member to act as benefactor; to maintain the mailing
list and optionally the website as they see fit with a suitable degree of
consultation from the membership. In this case the current LUG funds will
not be handed over to the benefactor.

3) The group is wound up. The mailing list and website will be taken
off-line and the domain-name either retained for 12 months, or given to
another LUG in Hampshire. No funds will be retained (see below).

For either option 2 or 3, no funds will be retained. This does not prevent
long-term purchase of domain name and services by the current committee,
prior to the funds being distributed. For distribution, the following is
suggested:

a) Nominations for suitable open-source projects/LUGs/Makerspaces etc. are
called for, over a period of a week. A list of all nominations will be
posted by the chairman. Nominations must be linux-related, open-source or
charitable, and not for personal gain; makerspaces are acceptable.

b) The members vote for their preferred nomination (1 vote per member) by
e-mail. Over the course of one week.

c) The votes are counted and the remaining LUG funds are split between the
top 5 nominations by percentage of votes. This will be announced on the
mailing list.


Best regards,

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[Hampshire] Ubuntu forum hack heads up

[Tim via Hampshire]

Just a heads up in encase there are any forum member in these groups, 
the Ubuntu Forum has been hacked


http://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/07/15/notice-of-security-breach-on-ubuntu-forums/

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[Hampshire] Ubuntu forum hack heads up

[Tim via Hampshire]

Just a heads up in encase there are any forum member in these groups, 
the Ubuntu Forum has been hacked


http://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/07/15/notice-of-security-breach-on-ubuntu-forums/

Tim

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Re: [Hampshire] Village History Website

[Tim via Hampshire]

On 05/05/16 16:02, Chris Dennis via Hampshire wrote:

On 05/05/16 07:14, Keith Edmunds via Hampshire wrote:

On Wed, 4 May 2016 22:42:26 -0700, hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk said:


It’s not much data, and I think you can just let Wordpress find the
assets on disk

I concur. You're trying to fix a problem you don't have (yet), and
Wordpress frequently handles large sites without much problem.


Thanks all for your replies.

I think I will stick with WordPress.  I was worried that users would 
get bogged down trying to find documents and images in WP's single 
list, but I'll try the 'Pods' plugin when looks like it can make it 
easy to add more post types ('documents', 'maps', etc.) and ways of 
categorising them.


Cheers

Chris


Would there be anything in using some form of photo album like Gallery 
(http://galleryproject.org/) to display the documents? I don't have any 
experience of this other than having a small photo gallery on one of my 
sites, you might have to scan and save them as jpg rather than pdf??



Tim


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Re: [Hampshire] Jessie upgrade question.

[Tim]

On 19/12/15 04:00, Mike Burrows wrote:

On 12/18/15 3:30 PM, Lisi wrote:

On Friday 18 December 2015 20:13:44 Mike Burrows wrote:

Hello Folks.

I have just down what I think was a successful upgrade to jessie but
lsb_release -a is still reporting a squeeze system. What might I be
missing please?

Did you go straight from Squeeze to Jessie?

Lisi


Hi Lisi.

No ma'am. Followed the release notes to go from squeeze to wheezy, 
then wheezy to jessie


That said. I am not sure that even the first upgrade happened because...

In both cases, the apt-get upgrade finishes with a bunch of high to 
low warnings about packages. I think these are the change logs. Are 
they and does this mean the upgrade hasn't worked? This is the first 
one on the list:


mysql-5.5 (5.5.33+dfsg-0+wheezy1) wheezy-security; urgency=high

  mysql-server-5.5 ships with the upstream mysql_install_db script which
  creates a database "test" and sets up permissions that allow anonymous
  access, without a password, from localhost to the "test" database and
  any databases starting with "test_" that users might have created
  after installing mysql-server.


This is the code before the change logs are read:

290 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 830 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/154 MB of archives.
After this operation, 13.5 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y


I tried to start over and this is my current sources.list

#deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main


Thanks for the help so far.

Mike

PS If I wasn't in Alabama, I would bring the box tomorrow :)





I am going to have a guess here, when it was installing it probably 
asked if you wanted to update the source list, the default is always no 
and you may well have selected that so the source list has not been 
updated. I would simply edit your source list manually and change all 
instances of squeeze to wheezy and once upgraded change wheezy to 
Jessie. As I said that what I would do, not sure if it is the correct 
way though so try at your own peril.


Tim

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[Hampshire] Laptops for Sale + bits

[Tim]

I have two old working laptops for sale

1) Acer Travelmate 4600, currently has a fresh install of Lubuntu 15:04 
but has been happily running other version of Xubuntu and Lubuntu, spec 
as follows


System:Host: Acer-TravelMate-4600 Kernel: 3.19.0-15-generic i686 (32 
bit) Desktop: LXDE (Openbox 3.5.2)

   Distro: Ubuntu 15.04 vivid
Machine:   System: Acer product: TravelMate 4600
   Mobo: Acer model: Crane Bios: Acer v: 3C11 date: 01/06/05
CPU:   Single core Intel Pentium M (-UP-) cache: 2048 KB speed: 1600 
MHz (max)
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV380/M24 [Mobility 
Radeon X600]
   Display Server: X.Org 1.17.1 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: 
fbdev,vesa)

   Resolution: 1400x1050@60.0hz
   GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV380 GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 
10.5.2
Audio: Card Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio 
Controller driver: snd_intel8x0

   Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.19.0-15-generic
Network:   Card-1: Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network 
Connection driver: ipw2200

   IF: eth1 state: down mac: 00:0e:35:c7:6d:04
   Card-2: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet driver: tg3
   IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 
00:c0:9f:7c:45:dd
Drives:HDD Total Size: 60.0GB (12.4% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: 
IC25N060ATMR04 size: 60.0GB

Partition: ID-1: / size: 19G used: 2.5G (15%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
   ID-2: /home size: 32G used: 49M (1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5
   ID-3: swap-1 size: 5.00GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: 
/dev/sda6


2) IBM Thinkpad R51, currently has a fresh install of AntiX (Debian 
Jessie), spec as follows


System:Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.0.5-antix.1-486-smp i686 (32 bit) Desktop: 
IceWM 1.3.8
   Distro: antiX-15-V_386-full Killah P 30 June 2015
Machine:   System: IBM product: 1829R6G v: ThinkPad R51 serial: 99AKPPT
   Mobo: IBM model: 1829R6G serial: J1YPY52P1MV
   Bios: IBM v: 1RETDRWW (3.23 ) date: 06/18/2007
CPU:   Single core Intel Pentium M (-UP-) cache: 2048 KB speed: 1600 MHz 
(max)
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV200/M7 [Mobility Radeon 
7500]
   Display Server: X.org 1.16.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: 
fbdev,vesa)
   tty size: 96x39 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio: Card Intel 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio 
Controller
   driver: snd_intel8x0
   Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.0.5-antix.1-486-smp
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82540EP Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Mobile) driver: 
e1000
   IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 
00:11:25:83:f4:f4
   Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection 
driver: ipw2200
   IF: eth1 state: unknown mac: 00:12:f0:1d:92:a2
Drives:HDD Total Size: 60.0GB (16.9% used)
   ID-1: /dev/sda model: FUJITSU_MHT2060A size: 60.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 15G used: 2.7G (20%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
   ID-2: /home size: 34G used: 49M (1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
   ID-3: swap-1 size: 7.58GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3


Open to offers, collect only, I am in the Kinson area of Bournemouth.

I am having a bit of a clear out of bits, to much to list here but 
includes memory module, hard disk (IDE and Sata) also some dead laptops 
if somebody wants to play. Also may have some rack mount server, 
supermicro orgin all 1U and a couple of HP rack mounts


Drop me an email off list if you are looking for anything.

Regards

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Re: [Hampshire] My emails about PLUG meetings

[Tim]

On 13/07/15 12:24, Paul Tansom wrote:

** Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com [2015-07-13 10:36]:

It has been suggested to me that the fact that I had not yet sent an email
about this month's meeting might have meant that there was not a meeting.

The meeting is announced on our website, as are all PLUG meetings since Paul
took over the website.
http://www.portsmouth.lug.org.uk/

Meetings are always on the third Saturday of the month.  The room is booked
for the rest of the year.  The reason it is not yet booked for 2016 is that
we only book a year at a time.  The Club does not encourage booking more
than a year at a time.

If I do not email it means one or more of:
1. I am waiting for news of/information about a speaker.
2. I am away.
3. I am ill.
4. I am being lazy.
5. My computer has died.
6. I have died.
7. I have fled the country with the CIA/IRA/FBI/GCHQ/NSA hot on my heels.
8. I am more busy than I can cope with.
9. I have been kidnapped.

It does NOT mean that there is no meeting.

Lisi

** end quote [Lisi Reisz]

Is that in order of likelihood? If so I would have expected item 8 to be higher
up the list. How can it be less likely than fleeing the country, or is there
something we don't know about? ;)



I would of said No 8 should of read It is on my to do list and I will 
get to it eventually. There should also be a No 10, I have won the 
lottery and can not be bothered with all you minions anymore ;)


Tim

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Re: [Hampshire] Damian Brasher

[Tim Brocklehurst]

On Friday 29 May 2015 14:42:50 Stephen Pelc wrote:
 Damian Brasher died on 12 May from cancer at the age of 43.
 Damian's attitude to his cancer was extraordinary and
 inspirational.
 
 His funeral will be at
   East Chapel
   Southampton Crematorium
   Bassett Green Road
   Southampton SO16 3QB
 
 Damian's widow, Marisa McClelland, has invited all who wish to
 attend the funeral, and the wake afterwards at 133 Hill Lane,
 Southampton SO15 5AF.
 
 Stephen


Stephen, thank you for passing on this sad news.

He was an active member of the LUG for some time, and always offered advice 
freely. He will be missed.

Please pass our condolences on to Marisa.

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Re: [Hampshire] Damian Brasher

[Tim]

Only ever met him once but he commented on many question I posted on 
this lug, a genuinely nice guy.


Agree with Keith there is little more that you can say, condolences to 
his family


Tim

On 01/06/15 20:12, Victor Churchill wrote:

Very shocked and sorry to hear this. My best wishes and condolences.

On 1 June 2015 at 07:38, Keith Edmunds k...@midnighthax.com 
mailto:k...@midnighthax.com wrote:


That's shocking. I met Damian a few times, and he did some work
from time
to time for the company I run. He was one of the good guys.

Not much else to say, except to observe that this is a reminder to
us all
to make the most of whatever time we have.
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Re: [Hampshire] Something up with the Hantslug mailman server?

[Tim Brocklehurst]

I've seen quite a bit of spam on the Chairman address, but nothing 
unmanageable and nothing on the mailing list.

Tim B.

On Wednesday 27 May 2015 22:57:24 Chris Dennis wrote:
 Hello Vic (and all)
 
 I'll check on the server when I get a moment to make sure that nothing extra
 spammy is going on.
 
 Cheers
 
 Chris
 
 On 27/05/15 17:09, Vic wrote:
  FWIW I'm not getting Spam.  Anyhow, not labeled as coming from HantsLUG.
  
  It's all quite obvious spam, so it's not getting through my filters - I
  was just surprised to see so many delivery attempts from the lug server...
  
  Vic.

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[Hampshire] IT bits looking for a new home

[Tim]

I have the following items that are free (apart from 1 item) to a new home

1 x Netgear FS516 16 port 10\100 unmanaged switch
1 x Cisco SF100-24 24 port 10\100 unmanaged switch
2 x Netgear N150 ADSL+2 Router DGN1000 with power supplies (no ADSL 
Filters or phone leads)


All were working when last used

I also have a brand new in the box never been used Zyxel P-661H-D1 ADSL 
Router £20


Contact me off list if you are interested, collect from the Kinson area 
Bournemouth.


Regards

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Re: [Hampshire] UK digital skills report

[Tim]

On 18/02/15 16:37, Jay Bennie wrote:

On 18 Feb 2015, at 16:19, Lisi hants...@googlemail.com wrote:


On Wednesday 18 February 2015 16:07:17 Jay Bennie wrote:

interesting reading, i wonder when people at the top will realise just
because you have a qualification, wont mean your any good at it. Software
development is as much an art form as it is a trained skill. All this will
do is flood the market with crap programmers.

That applies to anything.  But to select your good tennis players, you have to
have a decent sized pool of tennis players in the first place.


Naturally good people always rise to the top, all this will do is lower the 
salaries they will receive.

it really narks the establishment and companies that software peeps get paid 
more than senior managers and there is an ongoing effort by companies to lower 
salaries by making it a commodity job.

and don't be so naive to suggest that people of the future will need more 
computing skills, if anything computing skills will be required less as tooling 
and AI becomes more sophisticated and automated. 10 years from now we will 
simply ask a machine to write software for us and only a very small number of 
people will be in a position to modify that base code.


Software development is an art form.  But it requires skills.

painters of the fine arts know all to well that to be master of art you must 
posses exacting skill.


As does software maintenance.  And those skills must be learnt, they are not 
innate,
and can be taught.


This may be true. There may be more systems, but the natural evolution will 
concentrate knowledge into fewer and fewer parts.  Thus fewer and fewer teams. 
the few commodity roles will be passed to the lowest bidder and this will 
mostly be offshore.  So we are training people to have skills they will never 
practice. It would be far better for the government to concentrate resources on 
producing more Nurses and Farmers.


Are you going to not teach Maths, because not every child can become an Alan
Turing?

Math has a natural use in all subjects and life skills, computing and software 
don't, and the idea that kids need to be taught to type or surf the web is 
laughable.


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and many of those that we regards as masters of art today, died 
penniless and unknown.


Will we look back in the future at those in the software industry and 
hold some of them them in high esteem as we do old artists?? If you say 
yes then consider the case of Alan Truing.


Tim

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Re: [Hampshire] UK digital skills report

[Tim B]

This could be a good thing. Remember that there are three major groups of 
students. 

Those who were already interested. 
Those who might be interested with a little introduction and good teaching. 
Those who will never be interested. 

The first group is a minority. Perhaps a few students each school year. 
However, it's the middle group who may go on to work in science and 
engineering, or other disciplines which use computers for simulation and 
analysis, and for these people an introduction to what happens behind the 
scenes may be very useful.

It won't result in poor software engineers begging on the streets offering 
stories of the good old days.

That said, it's reasonable to expect a few more software engineers to turn up 
in 10 years.

The real advantage will be a user base which is more sympathetic to the 
software engineer, because the SE's world is a little better understood.

But hey, people call me an optimist.

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[Hampshire] O'Reilly User Group Newsletter Winter 2015

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Hi guys,

I thought the message below might be of interest to some.

Cheers,

Tim B.

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Re: [Hampshire] Simple database?

[Tim]

On 14/01/15 11:07, Gordon Scott wrote:

Hi Guys,

I was wondering if anyone had suggestions for a simple and simple
database for a membership list. An address book with some extra fields
for things like paid until, in this case 'boat', and a notes field.

I need a number of fields, so plain table's are a nuisance, though a
spreadsheet with frozen columns works OK.

I have people on Linux, Mac and Windows, so need cross-platform. There
are presently only 116 records and that's unlikely to change a great
deal.

I could just make something in Ruby or whatever, but there must, surely,
already be something out there. I often use xmbase-grok, but it's not
cross-platform.

Regards,
Gordon.


Not sure if this will be of any use but I came across the web site the 
other day and marked it intending to investigate later


Tim

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Re: [Hampshire] FTTC presentation

[Tim]

On 29/11/14 16:35, Dr Adam John Trickett wrote:

Hi,

I'm considering upgrading my ADSL2+ service to Fibre/VDSL (which in my case is
still copper into the house). In theory my current Co-operative broadband
would jump from around 11 Mbit to about 38 Mbit.

The Co-operative want to provide me with a Technicolor TG582n router for
free, but it's still £6 PP. As far as I can tell it's a cheap and not very
popular ADSL2+ router so on paper servers no useful purpose as a VDSL router.
I've also found some references online which suggest that it's actually a
modified router which has one of it's LAN ports converted into a WAN port.

I can't get out them sending me the router, but I just want to confirm what do
BT OpenReach actually install in your house if you have fibre?

Am I right in thinking the VDSL presentation has a VDSL decoder and you get a
BT phone jack and an RJ-45 lead which you need to plug into a router?

If that is the case my Netgrar ADSL2+ router already comes with a WAN socket
and I should be okay, but I'm just checking.


Hi Adam

In the FTTC install I have had for work, BT install a small router like 
box (VDSL decoder) which your VDSL connects to via the wan socket. I was 
also offered the Technicolour router but having had technicolour in the 
past threw it in the bin. I fitted Draktek 2850's, not cheap though.


Regards

Tim

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Re: [Hampshire] Diagram tool for network wiring?

[Tim]

On 27/11/14 21:47, Jay Bennie wrote:

Dia

On 27 Nov 2014, at 20:37, Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com wrote:



Thanks for that I was looking for the same thing.

On Debian there is also a Network icon set called Dia-rib-Network which 
should prove very helpful


Tim

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Re: [Hampshire] Freeview DVB Tuners

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Only standard def, but I've used an Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual DVB-T in the 
past with good results.

Hope this helps,

Tim B.

On Sunday 02 November 2014 23:23:24 Leo wrote:
 Can anyone recommend an HD Freeview TV card that works with Linux.
 Preferably with dual tuners.
 
 Regards,
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Re: [Hampshire] FW: Ubuntu server 14.04 - weird problem

[Tim B]

Hi Rob,

I seem to remember (from a while back when I did installations on early 64bit 
hardware) that there is an x86_64 architecture, which is somewhere between 
32bit and true 64bit architectures. I think this might be what you are using. 
There should be distro support for it.

Hope this helps, 

Tim B.

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Architecture:  i686
CPU op-mode(s):32-bit, 64-bit
CPU(s):2
Thread(s) per core:1
Core(s) per socket:2
CPU socket(s): 1
Vendor ID: GenuineIntel
CPU family:15
Model: 6
Stepping:  4
CPU MHz:   3000.206
Virtualisation:VT-x
L1d cache: 16K
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Re: [Hampshire] Munich Council was: (no subject)

[Tim B]

I'm not convinced that there is much in this. I wouldn't treat it as fact until 
Munich council release a statement saying that they are returning to Windows.

Tim B.


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[Hampshire] Fwd: [Scottish] Electromagnetic Field 2014: Call for Participation

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Hi guys,

I saw this on another mailing list I'm on and thought some of you might find it 
interesting.

Cheers,

Tim B.

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Subject: [Scottish] Electromagnetic Field 2014: Call for Participation
Date: Monday 07 July 2014, 20:02:33


Hello!

Electromagnetic Field (EMF) is a volunteer-run non-profit maker/hacker
camping festival in the UK. We held our first event in 2012, and this year
we're back and bigger than ever: a camping festival with over 1200 people
of all ages, just outside Milton Keynes for a long weekend between the 29th
and 31st of August.

We run this event to promote people making and learning things across as
many disciplines as possible. We'll take over a large field, roll out power
and internet to every tent, and put on talks and workshops for three days.

If you'd like a better idea of what that looks like, our website might help:
https://www.emfcamp.org/about

Our Call For Participation is open: we're looking for people to talk or
give workshops. At previous events, we've had a huge variety of talks on
everything from genetic modification to electronics, blacksmithing to
high-energy physics, reverse engineering to lock picking, computer security
to crocheting, and quadcopters to brewing. If you'd like to talk, we'll try
and fit you in.

We're especially keen to receive proposals from people outside the normal
tech conference circuit (we welcome imposters!). If you need some
inspiration, take a look at the list of talks from 2012:
https://www.emfcamp.org/talks/2012

If you'd like to submit a talk, simply fill in this short form:
https://www.emfcamp.org/cfp

We're also looking for groups to run villages: camps within EMF where
like-minded people can camp together and host activities for other members.
Previous villages have been anything from retro-gaming to lockpicking,
chillout areas, and a full workshop complete with laser cutter! Some groups
just camp together so interested people can find them, some organise a
village around a topic of interest and allow anyone to join them.

If you'd like to register a village there's more information here:
https://wiki.emfcamp.org/wiki/Villages

We're also looking for people to build installations and art around the
site. We have a limited budget available to help fund these projects, and
you can find the application form on the call for participation page.
Previous years have seen anything from ride-on tanks to floating LED
screens and gigantic metal letters spelling out the event name! We'll
consider anything interesting, so don't hesitate to get in touch if you
would like to contribute.

Last but not least: EMF is an entirely volunteer-run event and takes a vast
amount of time to organise. We need volunteers to help out in a variety of
roles before, during, and after the event. If you'd like to get involved,
email volunt...@emfcamp.org.

If you would like promotional posters, flyers and stickers to display in
your hackspace or give out at a meeting, email your address to
cont...@emfcamp.org and we'll post them out as soon as possible!

You can find out more about EMF 2014 on our website:
https://www.emfcamp.org

You may also be interested in the BBC coverage of the event in 2012:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19441861

Tickets are available from http://www.emfcamp.org/tickets, hope to see you
in the field!

Thanks,
Jonty
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[Hampshire] [OT] Network testing tool

[Tim]

Afternoon all

I am hoping the collective knowledge of the two lugs can help me. About 
a year ago I had a network issue at work and an engineer came out to 
remedy the situation. One of the tools he used would be very useful for 
a job I have coming up, it was some sort of port testing tool which 
could tell if there was anything connected to the port on the patch 
panel (e.g. plugged into the socket in to the wall socket at the other 
end). The tool was about 10 long, plastic tapered handle down to a 
metal shaft which had a small metal ball (about 3/16) on the end. He 
placed the ball end into the ports on the patch panel and if there was a 
device at the other end it would make a buzzing sound, it seemed to work 
by picking up any electrical emissions noise produced by the device at 
the other end. Apparently it is used in phone networking for the same 
thing. But does anybody know what it is called. We have just taken over 
a new site up country where a lot of the wall sockets are unmarked and 
ports on the patch panel are unmarked so I need to trace them through.


Thanks in advance

Tim

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[Hampshire] [OT] Network testing tool

[Tim]

Afternoon all

I am hoping the collective knowledge of the two lugs can help me. About 
a year ago I had a network issue at work and an engineer came out to 
remedy the situation. One of the tools he used would be very useful for 
a job I have coming up, it was some sort of port testing tool which 
could tell if there was anything connected to the port on the patch 
panel (e.g. plugged into the socket in to the wall socket at the other 
end). The tool was about 10 long, plastic tapered handle down to a 
metal shaft which had a small metal ball (about 3/16) on the end. He 
placed the ball end into the ports on the patch panel and if there was a 
device at the other end it would make a buzzing sound, it seemed to work 
by picking up any electrical emissions noise produced by the device at 
the other end. Apparently it is used in phone networking for the same 
thing. But does anybody know what it is called. We have just taken over 
a new site up country where a lot of the wall sockets are unmarked and 
ports on the patch panel are unmarked so I need to trace them through.


Thanks in advance

Tim

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Network testing tool

[Tim]

On 19/06/14 10:56, Lisi wrote:

On Thursday 19 June 2014 10:18:34 Bob Dunlop wrote:

On Mon, Jun 16 at 03:42, Tim wrote:

Afternoon all

Do you need to check your clock ?

Probably not.  Mailman lists have been down for several days.  Mail from
earlier this week finally got through at 10:05 this morning.  Both mine were
sent at the times they say, and just sat in the ether.  I imagine that Tim's
did the same.

Lisi


Exactly Lisi

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Re: [Hampshire] [Surrey] Raspberry Pi and Solar Chargers

[Tim B]

Surely that sort of clock is just a MOSFET, a relay and a GPIO pin. There are 
loads of example circuits on the web for that. For reference,  a 555-based 
timer is not particularly accurate over long periods. The PI's internal clock 
(note that this is not an RTC, though real time synchronisation can be added 
with NTP) will do a much better job of timing long intervals.

Cheers, 
Tim B. 


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From: James Courtier-Dutton james.dut...@gmail.com 
Date:12/06/2014  11:45  (GMT+00:00) 
To: li...@themilwards.biz,General Linux/Unix community List 
sur...@mailman.lug.org.uk 
Cc: hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk 
Subject: Re: [Hampshire] [Surrey] Raspberry Pi and Solar Chargers 

On 9 June 2014 13:11,  li...@themilwards.biz wrote:

 Hi All
 I have recently set up one of my raspberry pis and a cheap webcam to film 
 some flowers growing on my window sill however going to plug them in last 
 night I realised the nearest plug socket is miles away.

What about mains extension lead? Like the 100Meter ones you can get at
WIckes, BQ, Homebase. etc.
It sounds to me that also having something clock triggered that could
power down the camera most of the time, power it up once every X
hours, take a picture, power down again. Unfortunately, the PI does
not have a clock like that.

Kind Regards

James

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Re: [Hampshire] C development

[Tim B]

I have used C++ and QT4 to good effect for this sort of task.

Tim B.

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Date:12/06/2014  18:56  (GMT+00:00) 
To: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk 
Subject: [Hampshire] C development 

100 years ago I wrote a data logging programme for DOS which ran on a 
Sharp pocket PC. It was written in C and assembler. I now have a need 
for this programme and would like to revive it for use with the 
Raspberry Pi.

I haven't done anything like this for some time and would like some 
advice on current techniques to get the job done as soon as possible.

The first thing is a suitable IDE. I have had some experience with 
Eclipse but it may be a bit heavyweight for quick results. However if 
extra effort pays off in the end it might be worth it.

I will also need a lightweight graphics library. The original plotted 
data on the display which was done with functions like 
drawline(x1,y1,x2,y2) and writechar(x,y,char) etc. That sort of level. 
Having said that, the Pi has a lot more capability and I could use an 
existing display package.

The data came from various sources, some serial and some small devices 
which were connected to the parallel port. The smallest timing period 
was 1 second and I used the timer interrupt to initiate the read 
commands because there was a lot of processing going on, updating the 
display and also the logger had a modem attached so that data could be 
collected remotely. Is this the way to go with linux or is there a 
better/easier technique.

Originally I just recorded the data sequentially in a file but I was 
wondering if there was any advantage in using something like sqllite.

I would be grateful to hear for any advice.

Thanks

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Re: [Hampshire] Blocking a mac address from using my router

[Tim]

On 17/05/14 17:39, Simon Whitehead wrote:


Off topic I know but I wonder if anyone can help.

My router BThome hub 4 has this happening all the time, every couple 
of minutes.


17:36:13, 17 May.



wlan0: STA 00:20:00:37:d3:f7 IEEE 802.11: Client associated

17:35:44, 17 May.



wlan0: STA 00:20:00:37:d3:f7 IEEE 802.11: Client disassociated

17:35:28, 17 May.



wlan0: STA 00:20:00:37:d3:f7 IEEE 802.11: Client associated

17:35:23, 17 May.



wlan0: STA 00:20:00:37:d3:f7 IEEE 802.11: Client disassociated

17:35:23, 17 May.



wlan0: STA 00:20:00:37:d3:f7 IEEE 802.11: Client associated

17:35:23, 17 May.



wlan0: STA 00:20:00:37:d3:f7 IEEE 802.11: Client disassociated

I am guessing someone local has setup their Lexmark printer (I presume 
it’s a lexmak printer by the mac) using my router but does not know my 
wpa key.


The consent attempts to connect means that my connection lags, a lot 
and often.


Can I block a mac address from my home hub? I have looked over the 
setting but can not find anything suitable.


Kindest regards

Simon




See if this link helps you.

http://btbusiness.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/13475/~/how-do-i-set-up-mac-address-filtering%3F

I know there are at least 3 version of the BT Home hub and I think the 
earlier version(s) of the Home Hub do not have mac address filtering.


Tim

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[Hampshire] New Zealand Internet freedom

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Hi everybody,

I thought the message below from our friends at ScotLUG might be of interest 
to some.

Cheers,

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Subject: [Scottish] Last Months Talk
Date: Monday 05 May 2014, 13:28:50
To: SLUG-list scott...@mailman.lug.org.uk

Hey all,

I just thought it would be good to pass on this link that Patrick sent
me after last months talk was over:

That proposed legislation from New Zealand can be found here, if
you’re interested: http://www.internetrightsbill.org.nz/

Cheers,
Kenny.

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Re: [Hampshire] Over heating CPU

[Tim]

On 13/04/14 23:49, Dr A. J. Trickett wrote:

On Sunday 13 Apr 2014, you wrote:

My gut feeling is that the CPU cooler paste is probably past it?

Yes.

I seem to get about 3 years from modern stuff; at 7, your machine is long
overdue for a re-pasting.

Make sure you clean off all the old crud with acetone or similar, then
replace with fresh stuff. I'm unconvinced that any one brand is better
than another - I use a large tube of Servisol.

It seems everyone is of the same opinion. Something to do over Easter...


If the power supply has a large internal fan normally found on the 
bottom of the PSU (as you look from the side of the PC) so it is sucking 
air out of the inside off the PC passing it over the PSU components and 
out through the rear vent make sure that it is working. I had PC with 
that sort of PSU and the fan was failing (it was turning very slowly and 
stiff to turn by hand). Also depending where you store the PC take the 
front cover of the PC and clean out the dust to ensure a unrestricted 
air flow. If the server sits on a carpet make sure there is plenty of 
room under the front panel for air to get into the PC (place a piece of 
ply on the carpet for the PC to sit on).


Tim

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Re: [Hampshire] Router Port Scan

[Tim B]

There is nothing to stop anyone doing a port scan on your router.  You might 
try setting up the router not to respond to pings. That might reduce the 
occurrence a bit.

Tim B.


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 Original message 
From: Clive Woodfine clivewoodf...@gmail.com 
Date:09/02/2014  11:17  (GMT+00:00) 
To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk 
Subject: [Hampshire] Router Port Scan 

Over the last couple of weeks or so my router keeps sending me emails similar 
to the below:-

TCP Packet - Source:122.226.102.31 Destination:(my internet connection) - 
[PORT SCAN]

The source is different each time but sometimes with the same 3 starting 
starting blocks. 

Should I be doing something about this? Do other people have similar scans?

Can somebody please give me some simple guidance.

Clive
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[Hampshire] [Admin] February Meeting

[Tim Brocklehurst]

My thanks to Keith for a very interesting talk. Thanks also to the guys who
came along.

After the meeting I found a pair of glasses, if they belong to you please
collect them from reception.

Cheers,

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[Hampshire] [ADMIN] February meeting

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Hi guys,

This month's meeting will be on Saturday 1st Feb at QinetiQ Haslar starting at 
1pm. I know this is the same day as the SoMakeIt opening, but hopefully there 
is enough flexibility for those who wish to get to both meetings to make it.

This month we have a talk from Keith Edmunds. He'll be discussing using Linux 
in small business, and giving an idea about how he uses Linux in his IT 
consultancy.

As usual for meetings at QinetiQ, please e-mail me before midnight on Thursday 
if you wish to attend and I'll make sure you're on the list.

Hope to see you there,

Cheers,

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Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] February meeting

[Tim Brocklehurst]

The venue is at the south of Gosport, the nearest public transport link is 
Portsmouth harbour station and the Gosport ferry. Venue details are as 
follows:

QinetiQ
Haslar Marine Technology Park
Haslar Road
Gosport
Hampshire
PO12 2AG

On arrival, head to reception and we'll meet there.

Cheers,

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Re: [Hampshire] HantsLug Facebook was Hampshire Digest, Vol 86, Issue 11

[Tim B]

Don't worry Stephen. We're not going to do that.

Tim B.

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From: Stephen Davies stephen.dav...@ultraconsulting.co.uk 
Date:19/12/2013  13:18  (GMT+00:00) 
To: hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk 
Subject: Re: [Hampshire] HantsLug Facebook  was Hampshire Digest, Vol 86,   
Issue 11 

I am sure that I am not alone here in making the decision that I will never 
ever setup an account on Facebook or Twitter (or any other so called Social 
media site). 
Those two domains are on my router blacklist.

A very good friend of mine was 'cyber-bullied' to such an extent that they 
nearly took their own life. Neither site did anything about it because they 
were an adult. 

By all means go ahead and publicise the LUG on FB etc but please do not make 
them the main condiuit of information about the LUG. 

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[Hampshire] [ADMIN] upcoming meetings

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Good evening,

Just a quick update on the next few meetings. There will not be a meeting or a 
meal in December. Nor will there be a meeting in January.

The next meeting will be 1st of February 2014 at QinetiQ Haslar, when Keith 
Edmunds will be giving a talk on how he set up Tiger Computing, and using 
linux in business.

For the March meeting I'd like to suggest a trip to Bletchly Park on the 1st 
of March, in place of our normal meeting. Entry fee is £15, car sharing can be 
organised on the list.

For the April meeting we'll try to get hold of the guys from Linux Voice, but 
obviously this is not arranged yet.

Cheers,

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Re: [Hampshire] Christmas Meal

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Hi guys, just a reminder that entry closes at 9pm tonight. If you're coming to 
the meal, please let me know!

Cheers,

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Re: [Hampshire] Next meeting

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Good evening everyone!

If you are thinking of coming to the next meeting at Haslar, could you drop me 
an e-mail to let me know, so I can inform security.

I need confirmation of attendance by Thursday evening (9pm).

Thanks,

Tim B.

On Friday 08 November 2013 17:56:39 Tim B wrote:
 Hi guys. 
 
 The next meeting will be next Saturday (16th November) at QinetiQ Haslar
 from 2pm. For those who have not been before,  the site is located on the
 Haslar peninsula at the South of Gosport. The postcode is PO12 2AG.
 
 Given the nature of the site please let me know if you plan to attend,  so I
 can let our security guards know. 
 
 Cheers, 
 
 Tim B. 
 
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[Hampshire] Next meeting

[Tim B]

Hi guys. 

The next meeting will be next Saturday (16th November) at QinetiQ Haslar from 
2pm. For those who have not been before,  the site is located on the Haslar 
peninsula at the South of Gosport. The postcode is PO12 2AG.

Given the nature of the site please let me know if you plan to attend,  so I 
can let our security guards know. 

Cheers, 

Tim B. 

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT]New phone idea

[Tim]

On 14/09/13 08:30, Tim wrote:
As some of you like your non-mainstream phones thought you might be 
interested in this


http://phoneblocks.com/

Tim


Looks like the idea has taken off, but not quite as expected

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24726071

Tim

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Re: [Hampshire] apache2 configuration

[Tim B]

Try:
 VirtualHost *:80
Servername somenamethatresolves.com

Etc.

/VirtualHost

Good luck,
Tim B. 

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From: Peter Alefounder p_alefoun...@yahoo.co.uk 
Date:  
To: hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk 
Subject: [Hampshire] apache2 configuration 
 
 
I am looking for advice on apache2 configuration. What I would
like to do is set up two virtual hosts, specifying a particular
DocumentRoot for each and having Perl CGI for one of them. So
far, I have not got even one virtual host working.
 
If I have:
NameVirtualHost *:80
VirtualHost 127.0.1.1:80
  ServerName example.com
  DocumentRoot /home/pra/dir/files
/VirtualHost
 
in /etc/apache2/example, after apache2 restart, I get the messages
 
[...] Restarting web server: apache2apache2: Could not reliably 
determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 
for ServerName
[warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
 ... waiting apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's 
fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
. ok 
 
and asking the web browser for 127.0.1.1 will cause 
/home/pra/dir/files/index.html to be displayed. Links to 
example.com are not recognised (server not found, or unknown
host if I type example.com into the location bar).
 
If I change /etc/apache2/example to:
NameVirtualHost *:80
VirtualHost *:80
  ServerName example.com
  DocumentRoot /home/pra/dir/files
/VirtualHost
 
the same messages appear after restarting apache2 and the
web browser produces the default web page for the server.
 
Thus, it is clear that ServerName is not being recognised although
if I specify it exactly, I can link 127.0.1.1 to DocumentRoot.
 
What am I doing wrong?
 
Peter Alefounder.


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[Hampshire] Next Meeting

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Hi guys,

Unfortunately there will not be a meeting this month. Our next meeting will be 
in November. I will Issue details nearer the time.

Thanks,

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Re: [Hampshire] JOB | Permanent Linux Systems Administrator (Singapore)

[Tim Brocklehurst]

I'm pleased that people advertise available jobs on this list. It gives 
confidence that Linux is a significant part of modern business.

I would however ask that it is done only where appropriate, and not done too 
often. Please do not chase LUG members about job offers, members are free to 
accept, decline or ignore an offer if they wish, and I ask that everyone 
respects that freedom.

Thanks,

Tim B.

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[Hampshire] Light relief for a busy Friday

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Hi everyone,

Just came across this story. One for the IBMers amongst us perhaps.

http://lovemeow.com/2012/06/stray-cat-receives-employee-badge-from-ibm/

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[Hampshire] [OT]New phone idea

[Tim]

As some of you like your non-mainstream phones thought you might be 
interested in this


http://phoneblocks.com/

Tim

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Re: [Hampshire] September Meeting

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Hi guys,

Just a quick reminder that there is one day left to register your interest for 
this meeting.

All you have to do is drop me an e-mail at chair...@hantslug.org.uk with your 
full name.

Cheers,

Tim Brocklehurst

On Wednesday 28 Aug 2013 13:35:09 Tim Brocklehurst wrote:
 Hi guys!
 
 I am very pleased to announce that the next meeting will be held at
 QinetiQ's Haslar site at 1pm on the 7th September.
 
 We will have limited network access (i.e. a few people may have mobile
 broadband) so please do not expect to be able to do installs or updates
 from the web.
 
 To keep our security guys happy can you please register your interest with
 me by email (chair...@hantslug.org) no later than Wednesday 4th September.
 
 The agenda for the meeting is pretty simple:
  - Please arrive as close to 1pm as possible, as this makes life easier
 for security.
  - I'll give an introduction to the site, safety rules etc. then we will
 continue with the meeting as normal.
  - If anyone wishes to give a talk, please let me know.
 
 For those who haven't been before, the site is located on the Gosport
 peninsular. Public transport is available via Portsmouth Harbour and
 Gosport Ferry. A map of the site is here:
 
 https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=google+maps+PO12+2AGhl=enll=50.787598,-1
 .126871spn=0.021054,0.059524hnear=PO12+2AG,+United+Kingdomt=mz=15
 
 The site address is:
 QinetiQ
 Haslar Marine Technology Park
 Haslar Road
 Gosport
 PO12 2AG
 
 Cheers,
 
 Tim Brocklehurst

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Re: [Hampshire] September Meeting

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Sorry, got the e-mail wrong (missed the .uk off the end). However, for the
moment can you send all registrations to t...@engineering.selfip.org

Thanks,

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Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu Edge crowdfunding drive misses target

[Tim Brocklehurst]

On Monday 26 Aug 2013 12:25:22 Samuel Penn wrote:
 On Sunday 25 Aug 2013 21:11:58 Alan Pope wrote:
  On 25 August 2013 14:46, Simon Whitehead liquidigi...@hotmail.com wrote:
   http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23793457
   Is any mobile phone worth $625, $675, $695 or $725.
  
  I paid £429 for my phone nearly two years ago.
 
 I recently spend a similar amount. Any gadget is worth what people are
 willing to pay for them, and most people end up paying that sort of money
 for a phone, it's just spread out over two years so they have a very
 distorted view of the price of a smartphone.
 
 Not being tied into a two year contract makes it worth buying the phone
 SIM free IMO.

Hmm, I pay £25 a month (roughly) and am on a 2 year contract. That's £600 for 
the contract and includes the S3 phone (approx £400-£450 new a little while 
ago). Would I buy the phone and add a sim, saving £100 or more? No. £25 a 
month is much easier to live with; and that's quite a significant point. Most 
people will buy a phone and contract together.

Quite often, being tied to a multi-year contract isn't actually a problem for 
a lot of people; unless you're getting a bad deal or the coverage is poor in 
your area, and both of these are getting better with time.

Tim B.

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Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu Edge crowdfunding drive misses target

[Tim B]

Phone+laptop+desktop.  That's a very big claim,  and not one I think can be 
supported, given the widely varied use cases.

Tim B. 


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From: Tony Whitmore t...@tonywhitmore.co.uk 
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Subject: Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu Edge crowdfunding drive misses target 
 
On 25/08/13 14:46, Simon Whitehead wrote:
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23793457
 
 Is any mobile phone worth $625, $675, $695 or $725.

The Edge isn't/wasn't just a mobile phone though. Even if you don't
think the souped up hardware specs worth the cash, it's much better
value if you consider it a phone + laptop + desktop...

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[Hampshire] Microsoft from the inside.

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Good evening everyone.

I came across the following blog entry today, it makes for quite interesting 
reading. Thought you might be interested.

http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=74

Cheers,

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Re: [Hampshire] Recommendations sought for system upgrade

[Tim Brocklehurst]

On Monday 12 Aug 2013 18:01:41 Peter Alefounder wrote:
 So, I am thinking of upgrading my system. I would certainly want a
 new main board, and I understand that means a new processor as well.

It depends a bit on whether you have time or money to spend, and what sort of 
spec you are after. If you are not doing anything wildly esoteric, and you 
wish to spend the money and keep the time; then I would suggest buying an off-
the-shelf machine with an Intel I3 (or AMD A4) or better processor.

I would then connect the two machines together using a network and transfer 
all your data onto the new machine.

As for storage:
Are the ZIP disks really still necessary? or could you move to newer (and more 
available) media? (eg. SD card or USB stick).

Upgrading mouse and keyboard need not be expensive, but that is down to 
personal preference.

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Re: [Hampshire] OT:UK Mandatory ISP Filtering Selection Form Leaked

[Tim Brocklehurst]

On Wednesday 24 Jul 2013 12:26:12 Freaky Clown wrote:
 I happen to know amy mathers personally - infact i am baby sitting her
 saturday - shes a very smart cookie!! (so is her younger brother dan)
 
 

I think you may have posted this under the wrong subject line. Who knows what 
the government will do if they get hold of this information.

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Re: [Hampshire] Slide-show generation

[Tim]

On 14/07/13 15:54, Tony Whitmore wrote:


Hi all,

I'm revisiting an old topic here, I think. But I'd like to generate a
video file containing a slide-show of images.

Ideally, I'd point a program at a bunch of sorted JPEGs and let it
generate an HD video file with each image nicely cross faded into the
other, with an 8-10 second delay.

Does anyone know of anything that can do that? dvd-slideshow doesn't
seem to support HD and isn't maintained AFAICT. All the actual video
editors need me to manually click and drag each file onto the timeline -
no mean feat when there are 500+ images.

Cheers,

Tony


I recently tried to do the same, I opt-ed to use OpenShot (v1.4.3 on 
Xubuntu), that was until I found a bug which did not sync the sound 
track to the slide show. Apparently a new version is due out soon 
although it was not confirmed if the new version will resolve the issue.


There was a product I used several years ago but for the life of me I 
cant remember the name of it and have not been able to find it. I will 
be watching this thread with interest.


Tim

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[Hampshire] [Admin] Meetings

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Hi guys,

I've been meaning to write this note for weeks, but I've been madly busy.

There are no meetings in July and August. The next meeting will be in 
September. I'll let you know the details when I have them.

Cheers,

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Re: [Hampshire] Workstation and Wacom tablet for sale

[Tim Brocklehurst]

On Tuesday 02 Jul 2013 19:50:59 Richard Bensley wrote:
 I am selling the HP because it's a little too much muscle for me.

Rich, are you feeling alright? This sentence appears contrary to all computer-
owning logic.

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Re: [Hampshire] Spamalot

[Tim]

On 27/06/13 22:58, Chris Dennis wrote:

On 27/06/13 21:24, Anton Piatek wrote:

I assume akismet is not an option?


No, it's a plugin. :-)   And it's installed, but it only deals with 
comments -- random users have been logging in (despite the captcha) 
and creating new posts.


Since installing 'picklewagon' a few days ago, over 250 new 'users' 
have attempted to register: they haven't been able to create any 
posts, but now I've got to go through them to check that there aren't 
any genuine new users in the list, and delete them all.


Perhaps we need a captcha AND the admin-confirmation thing that 
picklewagon provides, but it all adds to the tediousness for genuine 
would-be contributors to the site.


Any more ideas?

cheers

Chris



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No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a
significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

On 24 Jun 2013 12:59, Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com
mailto:cgden...@btinternet.com wrote:

On 18/06/13 19:01, Tim wrote:

I use this on my WP site,

http://picklewagon.com/__wordpress/new-user-approve/
http://picklewagon.com/wordpress/new-user-approve/

Basically new users have to be approved, a pain in the rear yes
but it
stopped all the Polish mobile O2 spammers that were getting on
my site.
It sends an email to let you know somebody is requesting a
registration
you simply approve or ignore, your choice, works for me

Tim


Thanks for that, Tim.  I've added that to the HantsLUG site, so
we'll see how it goes.

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Maybe one of the reasons you have so many attempts to register an 
account is that the web page was known to be an easy target. Maybe in 
the coming weeks and months the attempts will drop and the admin work of 
checking the users will drop to a more acceptable level when they 
realise the registration is now a moderated procedure. When I first used 
the plugin on my blog I still had people trying to register but when 
they realised that the registration was now moderated they stopped 
signing up.


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Re: [Hampshire] Spamalot

[Tim]

On 18/06/13 17:39, Peter B. wrote:


As far as I heard capture has pretty much been hacked for years now.

Maybe an alternative might b in order.
Hope this link helps

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=pogue-8-alternatives-to-hated-captcha

On 18 Jun 2013 16:27, Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com 
mailto:cgden...@btinternet.com wrote:


Hello folks

The HantsLUG WordPress website keeps getting spammed by random
users that manage to get past the captcha thingy.  Most don't then
go on to post anything, but one has, and I've just cleared out a
number of noxious posts.

So I've had to disable new user registration for now: people are
still invited to email webmas...@hantslug.org.uk
mailto:webmas...@hantslug.org.uk if they want to register.

I'd be very grateful for any advice about securing the site while
still allowing real users to register as painlessly as possible.

Any ideas?

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I use this on my WP site,

http://picklewagon.com/wordpress/new-user-approve/

Basically new users have to be approved, a pain in the rear yes but it 
stopped all the Polish mobile O2 spammers that were getting on my site. 
It sends an email to let you know somebody is requesting a registration 
you simply approve or ignore, your choice, works for me


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Re: [Hampshire] Hants LUG membership

[Tim Brocklehurst]

On Wednesday 12 Jun 2013 16:02:45 john lewis wrote:
 I have reluctantly decided to cease memebrship of HantsLUG. It is
 unlikely I will be able to visit any meeting in the future and I don't
 contribute much to the mailing list either these days.
 
 I have enjoyed being a member and would like to say a big thank you for
 all the help I have had from too many people to be able to list over
 the years.
 
 I shall of course continue to be a user of Debian until such time as I
 disappear into a personal /dev/nul.

John,

I'm sorry to hear that. I have just done a search from August 2009 to the 
present and found 220 e-mails from you to the list. That's a rate of about one 
a week, so you're definitely up on me!

Anyway, I'd like to thank you for your contribution, and wish you the very 
best in the future.

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Re: [Hampshire] Using the host file

[Tim]

On 23/05/13 18:39, Tim wrote:
I am trying to access a web site via a different IP address than the 
normal web site sits on. I have been told (by the owners of the the 
web site) to add an IP address to my host file which resolve to the 
domain name. So I edited the /etc/host file as follows


1.1.1.1 thesite.co.uk (all fictitious, just an example)

I then saved it and restarted the networking. I then tested the access 
to the web site and while I could access the web site I am unable to 
access the bit of the web site that I need to access which the above 
mod to the host file should of let me access. How can I check that the 
web browser is accessing the web site via the changes I made in the 
host file and not using the old settings?


Tim


Just an update on this.

It seems as though the information I was being given was wrong which was 
why I was unable to get to the web site. To be perfectly honest for a 
world wide renowned entertainment company there IT support is 
crap...


Thanks to those who offered suggestions

Tim

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[Hampshire] [ADMIN] June Meeting

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Hi Everyone,

I suspect that by the time most of you read this the bank holiday will feel 
like a distant memory (well, it will be Tuesday after all). Do not despair, 
there is a HantsLUG meeting coming up, which will be a perfect opportunity to 
wax lyrical about how great the bank holiday was.

This month's meeting should be another good one. There will be a pair of PIs 
available to play with, but primarily set up for battery discharging and IO 
expansion. I'll be giving a talk about building your own expansion boards for 
the PI. We may also have other talks on the day.

We are at Southampto Uni again this month, and the meeting starts at 1pm. See 
you there!

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[Hampshire] Using the host file

[Tim]

I am trying to access a web site via a different IP address than the 
normal web site sits on. I have been told (by the owners of the the web 
site) to add an IP address to my host file which resolve to the domain 
name. So I edited the /etc/host file as follows


1.1.1.1 thesite.co.uk (all fictitious, just an example)

I then saved it and restarted the networking. I then tested the access 
to the web site and while I could access the web site I am unable to 
access the bit of the web site that I need to access which the above mod 
to the host file should of let me access. How can I check that the web 
browser is accessing the web site via the changes I made in the host 
file and not using the old settings?


Tim

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Re: [Hampshire] Stuart, let's connect on LinkedIn

[Tim Brocklehurst]

On Tuesday 21 May 2013 20:16:42 Daniel Llewellyn wrote:
 I prefer to be called Susan out-of-office-hours, but Stuart will suffice
 for now I guess.

LMAO for that!

Definitely post of the year so far.

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Re: [Hampshire] Simple Database apps

[Tim Brocklehurst]

On Wednesday 15 May 2013 20:57:47 Peter Collins wrote:
 Hi Phil
 
 On 15 May 2013 19:13, Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk wrote:
  My question is, what can I use that will be no more complicated
  than PHP/HTML, will run on Windows /Cygwin, and be available on Linux
  too? Ideally for my simple database type app,
 
 Also have you thought about LibreOffice Base? that would be cover on
 Windows and Linux.
 
 Rgds
 
 Peter.

I would seriously consider running a MySQL DB (standalone, no Apache or PHP) 
and then front-ending with Access over ODBC or LibreOffice.

I recently did an Access front-end and it wasn't too bad. I'm not saying it 
was a pleasurable experience, but I got through it without gouging my eyes 
out.

LibreOffice Base was similar the last time I used it. It has a few nice touches 
like being able to change the DB Schema from LOB; And of course, it's cross-
platform, so a little less lock-in.

Both Access and LOB take a bit of learning, but they are both very capable 
packages.

Cheers,

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Re: [Hampshire] Admin: May Meeting

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Hi guys!

Don't forget that our next meeting is on Saturday, at the University at 1pm. 
Directions are available here:  http://hantslug.org.uk/2012/10/zepler/

There will be talks on traffic accounting and building PCBs for the Raspberry 
PI.

Hope to see you there,

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Re: [Hampshire] Admin: May Meeting

[Tim Brocklehurst]

On Friday 19 Apr 2013 22:10:20 Tim Brocklehurst wrote:
 Our next meeting is at Southampton University on 4th May, starting at 1pm;
 And we've got a few talks planned:

This week, the Debian team annouced the release date for Wheezy. Excitingly, 
it's the weekend of the 4th/5th! Any ideas for how we can mark this momentous 
occasion?

Cheers,

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Re: [Hampshire] Wiki broken?

[Tim Brocklehurst]

 Resurrecting a 5 month old thread..

 I'd still like to edit a page on the wiki. Alternatively I'll move the
 content somewhere else where I can edit it, which makes me sad. What's
 the solution to this?

Alan,

Either register from the main page (http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/), or
contact Chris Dennis (webmas...@hantslug.org.uk) and he can grant you
access.

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[Hampshire] Admin: May Meeting

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Ladies and gentlemen,

My thanks to Anton and John for hosting us at IBM earlier this month.

Our next meeting is at Southampton University on 4th May, starting at 1pm; And 
we've got a few talks planned:

Traffic accounting for domestic users - Chris Malton

Cooking up the PI - Building your own expansion boards - Tim Brocklehurst

Directions are available at
http://hantslug.org.uk/2012/10/zepler/

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Re: [Hampshire] Tmux - the terminal multiplexer

[Tim]

On 15/04/13 10:09, Benjie Gillam wrote:

Does anyone here use tmux (as opposed to screen) for terminal multiplexing? 
I've been using it for a few months and it's awesome - especially v1.8 which 
was released just a couple of weeks back. I no longer use tabs/multiple 
terminals - everything on my system goes through one single terminal window via 
tmux sessions, windows and panes; even when I'm working locally only.

I'm aware that screen can do some things that tmux can't - I'd love to hear 
from anyone who uses these screen features so I can learn what I'm missing out 
on!

If anyone would be interested in hearing about how I use tmux then I'd be happy 
to write something up?

Cheers,

Benjie.
A question and apologies if I over simplify this or use the wrong 
terminology. I had never heard of tmux before this thread started, but 
am I to assume that tmux is a command line tool which allows you to run 
multiple terminal screens in a window like environment (so you can run 
more than one terminal on a cli screen), similar to running a graphical 
desktop and opening lots of terminals applications?


Tim

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Re: [Hampshire] Windows 8 + Dual Booting

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Make sure you get the install discs for Win 8, then you should be able to 
install it in whatever partition size you wish.

Alternatively, E-buyer have a number of laptops shipping with windows 7 here: 
http://www.ebuyer.com/search?a05471=Windows+7+Pro+64bitcat=10

Good luck,

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Re: [Hampshire] Windows 8 + Dual Booting

[Tim]

On 13/04/13 20:01, Sean Gibbins wrote:

Hi Folks,

My daughter's 21st is nearly upon us and she has told us that she 
would  like a new laptop.


We were idly browsing some in PC World today and it became apparent 
that they were all shipping with Windows 8.


Ellen is a Linux Mint user and would like to continue to use it on her 
new laptop, but I have heard that our normal MO, squashing Windows 
into a much smaller partition and then installing Mint on the back 
end, isn't an option.


It wouldn't be the end of the world if I had to claim back the Windows 
tax, but last time we enquired about it with Acer (she doesn't want 
another Acer btw) they wanted it shipped back to them (at our expense) 
so that they could remove it. We did the maths and calculated we stood 
to gain little more than a moral victory after paying for fully 
insured shipping, and therefore decided to leave Windows 7 where it 
was, which was just as well as it actually turned out to be useful for 
a couple of things in the end.


Anyway, I'm rambling now! Does anyone have any experience of such 
things that they would care to share?


Sean

I recently purchased a new HP PC for work (not my choice I was told that 
the one I had to order) and was concerned about it being Windows 8, my 
supplier said that it comes with Windows 7 installed and discs for 
windows 8, he also mentioned that many of the HP range of PC's and 
laptops for business are currently setup that way. Maybe if you can find 
a business supplier of HP and purchase one that way??


Tim

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[Hampshire] April Meeting

[Tim Brocklehurst]

Hi everyone,

Just a quick reminder that the April meeting is this Saturday (6th). We are 
being hosted by IBM Hursley this month. The meeting will run from 10am to 4pm 
with lunch in the Club-house at midday.

For those who haven't been before, there is useful information here: 
http://hantslug.org.uk/locations/ibm-hursley/

The only planned talk this month is the Easter debate, which will take the 
form of a series of short debates followed by a longer discussion, open to the 
floor.

The topics are as follows:

 * Do funded developers detract from the philosphy behind Linux and FLOSS?
 * Have we waited too long for Samba4?
 * Will current hardware trends benefit Linux?
 * Has Linux been the greatest shift in computer science of the last 20 years?

The speakers are myself, Anton Piatek and Rich Bensley.

Hope to see you there,

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Re: [Hampshire] Posting software releases - was - Fwd: amnesia-news Digest, Vol 27, Issue 1

[Tim Brocklehurst]

 Dear All

 New Tails out last Sunday ..

 L

Thanks Les,

I'm sure this will be useful for some members.

However, could I ask (everyone) that when posting about software releases
you add a quick blurb about what the software does and who might be
interested. It only needs to be a few lines, but without it anyone who is
not familiar with the project will probably ignore your e-mail.

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