RE: [H] no video

[Mark Dodge]

I'm having this same problem. 


Mark Dodge
MD Computers
602-421-0329 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 7:18 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] no video

I have heard of the problem, and now I have it. This is a very new XP PRO
build fully patched.
The problem is that I can not play streaming video within Internet Explorer.
I get a can't find server error for any video link I click. I can play the
same video file on another computer, or save it on the other PC and then
copy it over and then play it on this computer by double clicking on it. But
I can't play videos with IE.

It is something about IEany ideas?

[H] Re: GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Chris Shaw]

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:53:21 GMT
Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > As I understand it, she pretty much launched a campaign against the game.
> 
> After some further searching:
> 
>  That's not good enough, according to U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton, one
> of several politicians who have placed a priority on creating more
> stringent legislation to reduce the sale of violent and sexually charged
> games to minors.
> 
> http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1506071/20050721/index.jhtml?headlines=true

Gee, I thought MTV was one of Hillary's staunch supporters. Athletic 
supporters, I suppose!!

And exactly what we need more "committees" & "boards" to police what we buy. 
AND we really don't need a Congress"person" telling the agencies what to do. 
Since when is a politician an expert at anything other than deceit!!

> 

-- 
C L Shaw <>< 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The true test of giving is when it has no benefit to yourself. 

[H] no video

[Winterlight]

I have heard of the problem, and now I have it. This is a very new XP PRO 
build fully patched.
The problem is that I can not play streaming video within Internet 
Explorer. I get a can't find server error for any video link I click. I can 
play the same video file on another computer, or save it on the other PC 
and then copy it over and then play it on this computer by double clicking 
on it. But I can't play videos with IE.


It is something about IEany ideas?

RE: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Hayes Elkins]

From: "Analyst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: The Hardware List 
Subject: RE: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:31:49 -0500

Hayes,


> I mean, GOD FORBID there is the natural act of love in a game,
> nevermind that for over 5 years this series encourages you to KILL
> COPS and saw people in half. But OH NO! TITS! HUMPING! THROW THEM IN
> GITMO!
>
> One of the few times I agree with the rest of the world when I join
> them in laughing at the spectacularly stupid double standard of
> America's shunning of nudity in mainstream media and unabashed
> acceptance of wanton violence.

I agree completely with the double-standard involving violence, but 
nevertheless, 'Take-Two' still violated even the limited ratings system 
that they signed onto.



Vince


Please show me genitals engaged in what they were designed to do, or 
anything depicting something that is NOT in a PG-13 or R movie:


http://files.gtanet.com/gtasa/videos/hotcoffee.wmv

Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Hayes Elkins]

And the aussies, and all of south america (especially brazil) and japan, 
and



From: "Gary VanderMolen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: "The Hardware List" 
Subject: Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:29:37 -0700

Hayes Elkins wrote:
One of the few times I agree with the rest of the world when I join them 
in

laughing at the spectacularly stupid double standard of America's shunning
of nudity in mainstream media and unabashed acceptance of wanton violence.


Rest of the world? I think only Europe is more nonchalant about nudity.

Gary VanderMolen

RE: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Analyst]

On 24 Jul 2005 at 11:12, Tony Antoniou wrote:

> That's very funny Vince.

It is ?


> So if I take my car and modify it to break the speed limit quicker than
> anyone else, it's the manufacturer's fault for supplying me with the
> necessary tools to do that? 

Non sequitur ?


> Spare me dude. It was a hidden feature which a group of hackers
> released, not the manufacturer. 

Ah, dude, it was the "manufacturer" that admitted they included the content 
within the game. It was NOT released by a "group of hackers". Only the ACCESS 
to the content was 
hacked and readily available for download to anyone of any age.

Releasing a video game under one rating while it has content of  another rating 
is fraud.  


Vince

RE: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Analyst]

Hayes,


> I mean, GOD FORBID there is the natural act of love in a game,
> nevermind that for over 5 years this series encourages you to KILL
> COPS and saw people in half. But OH NO! TITS! HUMPING! THROW THEM IN
> GITMO!
> 
> One of the few times I agree with the rest of the world when I join
> them in laughing at the spectacularly stupid double standard of
> America's shunning of nudity in mainstream media and unabashed
> acceptance of wanton violence.

I agree completely with the double-standard involving violence, but 
nevertheless, 'Take-Two' still violated even the limited ratings system that 
they signed onto.


Vince

RE: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Tony Antoniou]

Does this sad-case Thompson look for nudity for a living? Did his mother
refuse to breast feed him as a child or did he refuse her breasts because
they were not for minors to see?


Adios,
Tony

---  TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums  ---

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2005 8:42
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves


"Gary VanderMolen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

BTW:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/22/news_6129609.html

Al

RE: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Tony Antoniou]

That's very funny Vince. So if I take my car and modify it to break the
speed limit quicker than anyone else, it's the manufacturer's fault for
supplying me with the necessary tools to do that?

Spare me dude. It was a hidden feature which a group of hackers released,
not the manufacturer.

Time to find the XBOX patch.


Adios,
Tony

---  TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums  ---

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Analyst
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2005 5:11
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

On 23 Jul 2005 at 6:32, Al wrote:

Well, the game-maker, Take-Two, has admitted they buried X-rated material
within the PC, Xbox and PlayStation 2 versions of the game.

They fraudulently sold games containing X-rated content with a 'Mature 17+'
rating. Not to mention that many retailers sell the 'M' rated games to those
under 17, and there's 
plenty of reason for parents to be upset.

Vince

RE: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Tony Antoniou]

More to the point, there's plenty other areas where minors can observe this
stuff ... even when they sneak down to the TV late at night to watch a dirty
cable channel or download a porn AVI. One game cannot and will not make a
difference.


Adios,
Tony

---  TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums  ---

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2005 4:04
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

It's a VIDEO GAME. Not real life.

Parents should control what their children sees and does, not the 
government.
 

RE: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Tony Antoniou]

She's a bitch who didn't bang her way to the top. Her husband did the
banging for her 3#-)

That makes her a real bitch to me. Heh.


Adios,
Tony

---  TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums  ---

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al
Sent: Saturday, 23 July 2005 10:26
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves


Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> As I understand it, she pretty much launched a campaign against the game.

I hadn't heard that. I could be wrong about her involvement

Al

Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Al]

"Gary VanderMolen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hayes Elkins wrote:
> > One of the few times I agree with the rest of the world when I join them in
> > laughing at the spectacularly stupid double standard of America's shunning
> > of nudity in mainstream media and unabashed acceptance of wanton violence.
> 
> Rest of the world? I think only Europe is more nonchalant about nudity.
> 
> Gary VanderMolen

I think Hayes was talking about the rest of the world laughing at our
double standard.


BTW:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/22/news_6129609.html

Al

Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Gary VanderMolen]

Hayes Elkins wrote:

One of the few times I agree with the rest of the world when I join them in
laughing at the spectacularly stupid double standard of America's shunning
of nudity in mainstream media and unabashed acceptance of wanton violence.


Rest of the world? I think only Europe is more nonchalant about nudity.

Gary VanderMolen

Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Ben Ruset]

Exactly. What a horribly puritanical society we live in. No wonder the 
Puritans got thrown out of England.


Excuse me, I have to go raise a barn now.


Hayes Elkins wrote:
It is NOT X-rated. NO genitals are viewable. No penetration of virtual 
polygons are at all present. It's nothing that you haven't seen in a 
movie theater packed with teenagers...or on "Nip 'n' Tuck" on FX.



From: "Analyst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: The Hardware List 
Subject: Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:11:22 -0500

On 23 Jul 2005 at 6:32, Al wrote:

> Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > As I understand it, she pretty much launched a campaign against the
> > game.

Well, the game-maker, Take-Two, has admitted they buried X-rated 
material within the PC, Xbox and PlayStation 2 versions of the game.


They fraudulently sold games containing X-rated content with a 'Mature 
17+' rating. Not to mention that many retailers sell the 'M' rated 
games to those under 17, and there's

plenty of reason for parents to be upset.

Vince

Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Hayes Elkins]

It is NOT X-rated. NO genitals are viewable. No penetration of virtual 
polygons are at all present. It's nothing that you haven't seen in a movie 
theater packed with teenagers...or on "Nip 'n' Tuck" on FX.



From: "Analyst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: The Hardware List 
Subject: Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:11:22 -0500

On 23 Jul 2005 at 6:32, Al wrote:

> Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > As I understand it, she pretty much launched a campaign against the
> > game.

Well, the game-maker, Take-Two, has admitted they buried X-rated material 
within the PC, Xbox and PlayStation 2 versions of the game.


They fraudulently sold games containing X-rated content with a 'Mature 17+' 
rating. Not to mention that many retailers sell the 'M' rated games to 
those under 17, and there's

plenty of reason for parents to be upset.

Vince

RE: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Hayes Elkins]

"So today daddy I was playing this game where I was picking up prostitutes 
and slitting their throats to steal money from them so then cops chased me 
around in a stolen car as I ran over dozens of people and blew up an oil 
tanker then the cops chased me on foot so I found a machine gun and killed 4 
of them and kicked their bodies and then I found a cop bribe so I didnt have 
to go to jail, lol. After words I found a girlfriend and stopped by her 
place and got to see her tits.."


"TITS!?!?!?! THAT'S AN OUTRAGE SON, YOU'RE GROUNDED GIMME THAT GAME!"


From: "gibney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Hardware List 


To: "'The Hardware List'" 
Subject: RE: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:57:58 -0700

   MINORS. This is really a bad idea?

Dave Gibney
Pullman, WA

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:33 AM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves
>
>
> Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > As I understand it, she pretty much launched a campaign against the
> game.
>
> After some further searching:
>
>  That's not good enough, according to U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton, one
> of several politicians who have placed a priority on creating more
> stringent legislation to reduce the sale of violent and sexually charged
> games to minors.
>
> 
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1506071/20050721/index.jhtml?headlines=tr

> ue

RE: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Hayes Elkins]

On her way to become this decade's Tipper - and she does not give a flying f 
about it, only to appeal to conservatives in her '08 run.


I mean, GOD FORBID there is the natural act of love in a game, nevermind 
that for over 5 years this series encourages you to KILL COPS and saw people 
in half. But OH NO! TITS! HUMPING! THROW THEM IN GITMO!


One of the few times I agree with the rest of the world when I join them in 
laughing at the spectacularly stupid double standard of America's shunning 
of nudity in mainstream media and unabashed acceptance of wanton violence.


What an uptight c***. Pink pixels on a screen. Maybe if she loosened up 
Billy wouldn't need to be out looking for strange all the time.



From: Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: The Hardware List 
Subject: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:04:42 -0400

http://ydr.com/story/main/78396/

Thanks, Hillary! :(

Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Steve]

Not a good analogy in my books. Cars need gas to work...the game doesn't 
need X rated material to run.
What if each car manufacturer placed a booby trap in each vehicle that would 
cause it to explode, but such booby trap was "not accessible through normal 
methods". Could you sue *if* it did go off? Would the manufacturer be held 
liable? I think you could betcha balls on it.


- Original Message - 
From: "Ben Ruset" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 4:54 AM
Subject: [hardware] Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves


It's buried, and not accessable through normal methods. Without someone 
hacking the game, you're not going to get at that content. How can the 
game manufacturer be held liable for that?


My gas tank is full of gasoline. If I shot a hole through it, my car would 
explode. Can I sue Jeep if that happens?


Analyst wrote:

Well, the game-maker, Take-Two, has admitted they buried X-rated material 
within the PC, Xbox and PlayStation 2 versions of the game.


They fraudulently sold games containing X-rated content with a 'Mature 
17+' rating. Not to mention that many retailers sell the 'M' rated games 
to those under 17, and there's plenty of reason for parents to be upset.

Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Ben Ruset]

It's buried, and not accessable through normal methods. Without someone 
hacking the game, you're not going to get at that content. How can the 
game manufacturer be held liable for that?


My gas tank is full of gasoline. If I shot a hole through it, my car 
would explode. Can I sue Jeep if that happens?


Analyst wrote:


Well, the game-maker, Take-Two, has admitted they buried X-rated material 
within the PC, Xbox and PlayStation 2 versions of the game.

They fraudulently sold games containing X-rated content with a 'Mature 17+' rating. Not to mention that many retailers sell the 'M' rated games to those under 17, and there's 
plenty of reason for parents to be upset.

Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Analyst]

On 23 Jul 2005 at 6:32, Al wrote:

> Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > As I understand it, she pretty much launched a campaign against the
> > game.

Well, the game-maker, Take-Two, has admitted they buried X-rated material 
within the PC, Xbox and PlayStation 2 versions of the game.

They fraudulently sold games containing X-rated content with a 'Mature 17+' 
rating. Not to mention that many retailers sell the 'M' rated games to those 
under 17, and there's 
plenty of reason for parents to be upset.

Vince

Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Ben Ruset]

It's a VIDEO GAME. Not real life.

Parents should control what their children sees and does, not the 
government.


gibney wrote:

   MINORS. This is really a bad idea?

Dave Gibney
Pullman, WA 




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:33 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves


Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



As I understand it, she pretty much launched a campaign against the


game.

After some further searching:

That's not good enough, according to U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton, one
of several politicians who have placed a priority on creating more
stringent legislation to reduce the sale of violent and sexually charged
games to minors.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1506071/20050721/index.jhtml?headlines=tr
ue

RE: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[gibney]

   MINORS. This is really a bad idea?

Dave Gibney
Pullman, WA 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:33 AM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves
> 
> 
> Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > As I understand it, she pretty much launched a campaign against the
> game.
> 
> After some further searching:
> 
>  That's not good enough, according to U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton, one
> of several politicians who have placed a priority on creating more
> stringent legislation to reduce the sale of violent and sexually charged
> games to minors.
> 
> http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1506071/20050721/index.jhtml?headlines=tr
> ue

Re: [H] RE: FFL

[joeuser]

I had same issue and sent email to jim at his private address that he 
posted with the other day - works fine now and I sent the email this 
morning.


Wayne Johnson wrote:


At 12:46 AM 7/23/2005, Chris Reeves typed:

We absolutely welcome newbies; just as long as you don't abandon your 
team

and pay attention :)  But it's not that hard, and if you can spend 15
minutes a week on it, it's worthwhile ;)



The SpamCop settings won't let me post to the FFL list & just when I had 
a SA comment for the Joe User character.



--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805




--
Cheers,
joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)

RE: [H] RE: FFL

[Wayne Johnson]

At 12:46 AM 7/23/2005, Chris Reeves typed:

We absolutely welcome newbies; just as long as you don't abandon your team
and pay attention :)  But it's not that hard, and if you can spend 15
minutes a week on it, it's worthwhile ;)


The SpamCop settings won't let me post to the FFL list & just when I had a 
SA comment for the Joe User character.



--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Al]

Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> As I understand it, she pretty much launched a campaign against the game.

After some further searching:

 That's not good enough, according to U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton, one
of several politicians who have placed a priority on creating more
stringent legislation to reduce the sale of violent and sexually charged
games to minors.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1506071/20050721/index.jhtml?headlines=true

Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Al]

Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> As I understand it, she pretty much launched a campaign against the game.

I hadn't heard that. I could be wrong about her involvement

Al

Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Ben Ruset]

As I understand it, she pretty much launched a campaign against the game.

Al wrote:

Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



http://ydr.com/story/main/78396/

Thanks, Hillary! :(



For the sake of fairness:

I'm not particularly fond of Hillary, but she didn't have any thing to
do with it's rating change resulting in it removal from the shelves. The
article only offers her reaction to the change.

Al


Smile... it increases your face value.

Re: [H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Al]

Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://ydr.com/story/main/78396/
> 
> Thanks, Hillary! :(

For the sake of fairness:

I'm not particularly fond of Hillary, but she didn't have any thing to
do with it's rating change resulting in it removal from the shelves. The
article only offers her reaction to the change.

Al


Smile... it increases your face value.

[H] GTA San Andreas Pulled from Shelves

[Ben Ruset]

http://ydr.com/story/main/78396/

Thanks, Hillary! :(