Re: [H] ok, how about this...

2006-02-14 Thread Jim Edwards
Ok, y'all sucked me in. When I can't get there on my Harley, my Toyota 
Tacoma can get me anywhere. Both are great on gas. 6 cylinders total here. 
The 13 we just got this weekend, child's play. The Toy has the 2.7 Ltr 4 
and it is a mule. Hell, according to the manual, I can use the starter (in 
4wd) to get me up a steep incline, out of a mud pit. It ain't that fast but 
with it being a stick, it can respond when needed. The Harley... don't need 
explaining.


Jim



[H] Low Level Format of Samsung SV8004H

2006-02-14 Thread chuck
I have tried all I have to get rid of the little 8 MB partition on a Samsung 
SV8004H hard drive on Hewlett Packard that I want to do a clean install on. 
In times past, Seagate came to my rescue, but not this time.


I tried FDISK and the XP Installation process, to no avail. Samsung says it 
discontinued its hard drive preparation software since Windows XP CD will do 
the same thing. Catch 22. It won't. It may do well on a non OEM Samsung hard 
drive that has not had that little 8 MB partition installed on it by the 
manufacturer of the computer. Windows XP will not let me ignore that 8 MB 
partition and install on the next partition.


It would be highly appreciated is someone can send me some small utility 
file that will do this job for me. Hopefully somebody downloaded the Samsung 
hard drive preparation software before they removed it from their site.


Thanks in advance,

Chuck 



Re: [H] Low Level Format of Samsung SV8004H

2006-02-14 Thread Wayne Johnson

At 10:36 AM 2/14/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
I have tried all I have to get rid of the little 8 MB partition on a 
Samsung SV8004H hard drive on Hewlett Packard that I want to do a 
clean install on. In times past, Seagate came to my rescue, but not this time.


I tried FDISK and the XP Installation process, to no avail. Samsung 
says it discontinued its hard drive preparation software since 
Windows XP CD will do the same thing.


Don't know what you're talking about because the Low Level Format 
util is at 
http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/utilities/sutil.htm and
Diagnostic  is at 
http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/utilities/shdiag.htm 
 http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/utilities/hutil.htm


FWIW I have downloaded all of them without any problems.

OBTW Google is your friend.

--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
http://www.wavijo.com 



Re: [H] Low Level Format of Samsung SV8004H

2006-02-14 Thread Jamie Furtner
Why not look at the DBAN (Darik's Boot and Nuke) disk - it should help to
blow the partition table and everything away.

Jamie


On Tue, February 14, 2006 9:04 am, Wayne Johnson wrote:
 At 10:36 AM 2/14/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:

 I have tried all I have to get rid of the little 8 MB partition on a
 Samsung SV8004H hard drive on Hewlett Packard that I want to do a
 clean install on. In times past, Seagate came to my rescue, but not this
 time.

 I tried FDISK and the XP Installation process, to no avail. Samsung
 says it discontinued its hard drive preparation software since Windows XP
 CD will do the same thing.


 Don't know what you're talking about because the Low Level Format
 util is at
 http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/utilities/sutil.htm and
 Diagnostic  is at
 http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/utilities/shdiag.htm
  http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/utilities/hutil.htm


 FWIW I have downloaded all of them without any problems.


 OBTW Google is your friend.


 --+--
 Wayne D. Johnson
 Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 http://www.wavijo.com





-- 
Jamie Furtner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I aim to misbehave
- Malcom Reynolds (Serenity movie)
It's not safe...
For them.
- River Tam (Serenity movie)




Re: [H] Low Level Format of Samsung SV8004H

2006-02-14 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:36 AM
Subject: [H] Low Level Format of Samsung SV8004H


I have tried all I have to get rid of the little 8 MB partition on a 
Samsung


Thanks for the help. I went to Google after I posted and it took me right to 
it where I was unable to find it on the Samsung site. It partitioned the 
drive exactely as I wanted it to.


Chuck




RE: [H] Low Level Format of Samsung SV8004H

2006-02-14 Thread Hayes Elkins
When formatting a new disk with XP on 40GB disks, you will typically have 
an 8MB leftover partition assuming you use NTFS.




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Low Level Format of Samsung SV8004H
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:36:09 -0500

I have tried all I have to get rid of the little 8 MB partition on a 
Samsung SV8004H hard drive on Hewlett Packard that I want to do a clean 
install on. In times past, Seagate came to my rescue, but not this time.


I tried FDISK and the XP Installation process, to no avail. Samsung says it 
discontinued its hard drive preparation software since Windows XP CD will 
do the same thing. Catch 22. It won't. It may do well on a non OEM Samsung 
hard drive that has not had that little 8 MB partition installed on it by 
the manufacturer of the computer. Windows XP will not let me ignore that 8 
MB partition and install on the next partition.


It would be highly appreciated is someone can send me some small utility 
file that will do this job for me. Hopefully somebody downloaded the 
Samsung hard drive preparation software before they removed it from their 
site.


Thanks in advance,

Chuck






[H] Are all keyboards basically the same?

2006-02-14 Thread Veech

For me a keyboard is a keyboard, is there any significant difference between
the ones that cost $20 and $120?  I'll probably just nab one off of NewEgg.
I do some moderate gaming, but I rarely program a bunch of hot-keys.  Any
recs would be appreciated..



RE: [H] Suggested tools for helping a friend with bad virusinfestation

2006-02-14 Thread Christopher Fisk

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Mesdaq, Ali wrote:


You are aware of the exploit on the GDI libraries right? Data files and
what seems like datafiles are extremely common vectors of attack now.
And please tell me your joking about virus scanning software actually
being your testcase for success.


Yes, I'm aware of the exploit in GDI libraries.  I'm also aware that 
cleaning just the data instead of Data + Executables + DLL + Registry, 
etc, etc, which I can be more sure of.  Thats the data only field.




Christopher Fisk
--
[watching a baseball game] 
Stewie Griffin: Why does that man drop his club before he runs? I would 
bring it with me.


Re: [H] Low Level Format of Samsung SV8004H

2006-02-14 Thread Sam Franc

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have tried all I have to get rid of the little 8 MB partition on a 
Samsung SV8004H hard drive on Hewlett Packard that I want to do a clean 
install on. In times past, Seagate came to my rescue, but not this time.


I tried FDISK and the XP Installation process, to no avail. Samsung says 
it discontinued its hard drive preparation software since Windows XP CD 
will do the same thing. Catch 22. It won't. It may do well on a non OEM 
Samsung hard drive that has not had that little 8 MB partition installed 
on it by the manufacturer of the computer. Windows XP will not let me 
ignore that 8 MB partition and install on the next partition.


It would be highly appreciated is someone can send me some small utility 
file that will do this job for me. Hopefully somebody downloaded the 
Samsung hard drive preparation software before they removed it from 
their site.


Thanks in advance,

Chuck




Dban worked for me.
Sam


RE: [H] Suggested tools for helping a friend with badvirus infestation

2006-02-14 Thread Christopher Fisk

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006, Hayes Elkins wrote:


Christ, you act like rootkits are unbreakable.


http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/RootkitRevealer.html

RootkitRevealer successfully detects all persistent rootkits published at 
www.rootkit.com, including AFX, Vanquish and HackerDefender


What about the ones not published?


Christopher Fisk
--
Leela: If you could change form, why didn't you change it in the one place
that counts?


RE: [H] External USB 2.0 enclosure recommendations.

2006-02-14 Thread Bobby Heid
I decided to go quality on this and ended up going with the Rosewill
RX30-U2FAB enclosure found here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817173014.

Thanks for the pointer on the chipsets.  In case anyone is interested, I
came across this fairly informative write-up on fatwallet.com on external
enclosures:
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messageview.php?start=0catid=28threadid=49
6281

Thanks,
Bobby

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jin-Wei Tioh
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 10:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] External USB 2.0 enclosure recommendations.


At 09:06 PM 2/4/2006, you wrote:

I'll need to check up further to get specific brands but what you want to 
look for
is a fanless aluminum 3.5 case that makes snug contact with the drive and
you pretty much want the Cypress chipset for USB2.0 or Oxford for Firewire.

HTH

--
JW 




RE: [H] Suggested tools for helping a friend with badvirus infestation

2006-02-14 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)

At 01:56 PM 14/02/2006, Christopher Fisk wrote:

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006, Hayes Elkins wrote:


Christ, you act like rootkits are unbreakable.


http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/RootkitRevealer.html

RootkitRevealer successfully detects all persistent rootkits 
published at www.rootkit.com, including AFX, Vanquish and HackerDefender


What about the ones not published?


Well, according to Systernals, it would take technology not yet seen 
in a rootkit to get around Rootkit Revealer.  It would have to be 
specifically written to intercept RR calls to directly look at the 
registry and hard drive files.  So right now, it seems like a pretty good tool.


T 



Re: [H] External USB 2.0 enclosure recommendations.

2006-02-14 Thread warpmedia
It's Oxford 922, I'd be interested if it had the same Delayed Write 
Failure issues of other chipsets (including the 911) when used via 
firewire  Windows XP.




Bobby Heid wrote:

I decided to go quality on this and ended up going with the Rosewill
RX30-U2FAB enclosure found here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817173014.

Thanks for the pointer on the chipsets.  In case anyone is interested, I
came across this fairly informative write-up on fatwallet.com on external
enclosures:
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messageview.php?start=0catid=28threadid=49
6281

Thanks,
Bobby





RE: [H] Suggested tools for helping a friend with badvirus infestation

2006-02-14 Thread Christopher Fisk

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Thane Sherrington (S) wrote:


What about the ones not published?


Well, according to Systernals, it would take technology not yet seen in a 
rootkit to get around Rootkit Revealer.  It would have to be specifically 
written to intercept RR calls to directly look at the registry and hard drive 
files.  So right now, it seems like a pretty good tool.


I'm not saying it's not a good tool, I'm saying (And they admit) that it's 
certainly not 100%.




Christopher Fisk
--
[Meg walks in on Quagmire with a hooker]
Glen Quagmire: Hey, Meg, you just bought me another three minutes. Giggidy
giggidy giggidy.


Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same?

2006-02-14 Thread FORC5
personally like Keytronic with the large enter key.
fp

At 10:31 AM 2/14/2006, Veech Poked the stick with:
For me a keyboard is a keyboard, is there any significant difference between
the ones that cost $20 and $120?  I'll probably just nab one off of NewEgg.
I do some moderate gaming, but I rarely program a bunch of hot-keys.  Any
recs would be appreciated..

-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
Do not adjust your mind, the fault is with reality.



Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same?

2006-02-14 Thread Gary VanderMolen

It's mostly a personal preference. I've had $10 keyboards that I liked,
and $50 keyboards that I didn't like. For me its the tactile feedback that
counts. I don't like keys that feel spongy or springy. Also, a slightly audible
key click is good, but some make way too much 'clackity' noise.

Gary VanderMolen


- Original Message - 

For me a keyboard is a keyboard, is there any significant difference between
the ones that cost $20 and $120?  I'll probably just nab one off of NewEgg.
I do some moderate gaming, but I rarely program a bunch of hot-keys.  Any
recs would be appreciated..




Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same?

2006-02-14 Thread warpmedia
My feelings after many keyboards has come down to this: Get one that 
uses switches not membrane.


That's after

1. Owning 2 Keytronics, who voided my lifetime warranty for spillage 
caused by spaying cleaner on the keyboard (i.e. bullshit excuse).


2. MS Natural, Rev 1 or so. Printing wore off, stiction on key travel 
after a few months.


3. 3 logitechs. One goes unsupported (pre-iTouch); On another, 
eventually required an elephant typist after 2 years (membrane); A 1.5 
year old MX that despite being totally disassembled  cleaned by hand, 
never since worked right mechanically (key travel has stiction) even 
though electrically the membrane works fine; Lastly a $200 DiNovo 
abortion that seems to consistently miss the A  CTRL keys unless 
hit just right (membrane).


My next keyboard will at least have switches  likely corded.

FORC5 wrote:

personally like Keytronic with the large enter key.
fp

At 10:31 AM 2/14/2006, Veech Poked the stick with:

For me a keyboard is a keyboard, is there any significant difference between
the ones that cost $20 and $120?  I'll probably just nab one off of NewEgg.
I do some moderate gaming, but I rarely program a bunch of hot-keys.  Any
recs would be appreciated..




Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same?

2006-02-14 Thread jeff.lane
I still have an old Keytronic KB101-1 capacitance keyboard. It is the finest 
keyboard I have ever usedbar none. None of the others are even close. 
These new membrane boards are strictly throwaways and certainly not worth 
wasting any repair time on. Are the two boards you have physically damaged, 
e.g., case, keys, main logic board? If it's just pressure domes and switches 
I may be able to help you. I was in Keytronic Tech support for awhile and 
have a couple of bags of parts.no keys though.


BTW what was so special about a membrane(AKA non-repairable) to pay $200.00?

Jeff


- Original Message - 
From: warpmedia [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same?


My feelings after many keyboards has come down to this: Get one that uses 
switches not membrane.


That's after

1. Owning 2 Keytronics, who voided my lifetime warranty for spillage 
caused by spaying cleaner on the keyboard (i.e. bullshit excuse).


2. MS Natural, Rev 1 or so. Printing wore off, stiction on key travel 
after a few months.


3. 3 logitechs. One goes unsupported (pre-iTouch); On another, eventually 
required an elephant typist after 2 years (membrane); A 1.5 year old MX 
that despite being totally disassembled  cleaned by hand, never since 
worked right mechanically (key travel has stiction) even though 
electrically the membrane works fine; Lastly a $200 DiNovo abortion that 
seems to consistently miss the A  CTRL keys unless hit just right 
(membrane).


My next keyboard will at least have switches  likely corded.

FORC5 wrote:

personally like Keytronic with the large enter key.
fp

At 10:31 AM 2/14/2006, Veech Poked the stick with:
For me a keyboard is a keyboard, is there any significant difference 
between
the ones that cost $20 and $120?  I'll probably just nab one off of 
NewEgg.
I do some moderate gaming, but I rarely program a bunch of hot-keys. 
Any

recs would be appreciated..




Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same?

2006-02-14 Thread JRS

LOL.  I still use a couple orginal IBM clickey keyboards with the buckling
spring switches from the 80's.  

They work as well now as they did then and I love that clicky feel.  :)






My feelings after many keyboards has come down to this: Get one that 
uses switches not membrane.

That's after

1. Owning 2 Keytronics, who voided my lifetime warranty for spillage 
caused by spaying cleaner on the keyboard (i.e. bullshit excuse).

2. MS Natural, Rev 1 or so. Printing wore off, stiction on key travel 
after a few months.

3. 3 logitechs. One goes unsupported (pre-iTouch); On another, 
eventually required an elephant typist after 2 years (membrane); A 1.5 
year old MX that despite being totally disassembled  cleaned by hand, 
never since worked right mechanically (key travel has stiction) even 
though electrically the membrane works fine; Lastly a $200 DiNovo 
abortion that seems to consistently miss the A  CTRL keys unless 
hit just right (membrane).

My next keyboard will at least have switches  likely corded.
-- 

JRS   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please remove  **X**  to reply...

Facts do not cease to exist just
because they are ignored.


Re: [H] Are all keyboards basically the same?

2006-02-14 Thread Jin-Wei Tioh

At 11:31 AM 2/14/2006, you wrote:

For me a keyboard is a keyboard, is there any significant difference between
the ones that cost $20 and $120?  I'll probably just nab one off of NewEgg.
I do some moderate gaming, but I rarely program a bunch of hot-keys.  Any
recs would be appreciated..


I'm partial towards the Logitech wireless line. Have 5 sets of Cordless 
Freedom Opticals

in service for the last 4 years, still running beautifully to this day.

--
JW 



[H] Nero 6.6 questions

2006-02-14 Thread Winterlight
How in the hell do I get the help files to work in Nero 6.6. I download the 
chm files and run them but nothing.  it keeps asking me to find 
nero.hlp but it doesn't exist.


How do I get Nero 6.6 to include the txt information... track and artist 
when I burn a CD so that it appears on programs like Winamp? I have the 
write text box set. All the tracks show title and artist under properties, 
but they don't show up in Winamp??




RE: [H] Suggested tools for helping a friend with badvirus infestation

2006-02-14 Thread Hayes Elkins

Just like viri - wait a day.



Christ, you act like rootkits are unbreakable.


http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/RootkitRevealer.html

RootkitRevealer successfully detects all persistent rootkits published at 
www.rootkit.com, including AFX, Vanquish and HackerDefender


What about the ones not published?


Christopher Fisk
--
Leela: If you could change form, why didn't you change it in the one place
that counts?





RE: [H] Suggested tools for helping a friend with badvirus infestation

2006-02-14 Thread Hayes Elkins



From: Christopher Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: RE: [H] Suggested tools for helping a friend with badvirus 
infestation

Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:53:05 -0500 (EST)

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Thane Sherrington (S) wrote:


What about the ones not published?


Well, according to Systernals, it would take technology not yet seen in a 
rootkit to get around Rootkit Revealer.  It would have to be specifically 
written to intercept RR calls to directly look at the registry and hard 
drive files.  So right now, it seems like a pretty good tool.


I'm not saying it's not a good tool, I'm saying (And they admit) that it's 
certainly not 100%.


Neither is there an antivirus tool that detects 100% of viruses. So next 
time you suspect a variant of STONED, better be safe than sorry and format.





RE: [H] Suggested tools for helping a friend with badvirus infestation

2006-02-14 Thread Wayne Johnson

At 10:09 PM 2/14/2006, Hayes Elkins typed:
Neither is there an antivirus tool that detects 100% of viruses. So 
next time you suspect a variant of STONED, better be safe than sorry 
and format.


I haven't been stoned in forever  neither has any computer that I've 
worked on altho I vaguely remember seeing one back in the stone ages 
when off white text became amber. ;-)  Now that you brought this up I 
sure hope I don't have any flash backs about it. rotfl



--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
http://www.wavijo.com 



RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

2006-02-14 Thread Hunter, Gary
But they came :-) 

I loved his answer machine.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:24 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

It's just British comedy, but the bit of:

Dear Sir / Madam:

FIRE!

FIRE!

Help Me!

I'm at 231 Browns Lane.

I look forward to hearing from you.

As an email to the emergency services killed me.






The information in this electronic mail message is sender's 
business Confidential and may be legally privileged.  It is 
intended solely for the addressee(s).  Access to this Internet 
electronic mail message by anyone else is unauthorized.  If 
you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, 
distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in 
reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. The sender 
believes that this E-mail and any attachments were free of 
any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when 
sent. This message and its attachments could have been 
infected during  transmission. By reading the message and 
opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full 
responsibility for taking protective and remedial action about 
viruses and other defects. Cendant is not liable for any loss 
or damage arising in any way from this message or its 
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RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

2006-02-14 Thread Chris Reeves
The moment in the first episode where they answered the phone: have you
tried turning it off then on again  .. yeah, it could be better, and it's
growing into it, but it has that cagey british comedy feel to it that gets
me :)

CW

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:58 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

But they came :-) 

I loved his answer machine.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:24 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

It's just British comedy, but the bit of:

Dear Sir / Madam:

FIRE!

FIRE!

Help Me!

I'm at 231 Browns Lane.

I look forward to hearing from you.

As an email to the emergency services killed me.






The information in this electronic mail message is sender's 
business Confidential and may be legally privileged.  It is 
intended solely for the addressee(s).  Access to this Internet 
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you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, 
distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in 
reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. The sender 
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any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when 
sent. This message and its attachments could have been 
infected during  transmission. By reading the message and 
opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full 
responsibility for taking protective and remedial action about 
viruses and other defects. Cendant is not liable for any loss 
or damage arising in any way from this message or its 
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RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

2006-02-14 Thread Hunter, Gary
It's silly, its juvenile, but it's a bit of mindless fun in a world that
needs to lighten up a little.

You mentioned the office earlier, which do you prefer the UK version or
the US version. I am very impressed with the US version much better than
any of the other comedies they have tried to copy (coupling springs to
mind). I a on the verge of saying that I think the US version is better
and that takes a lot coming from me. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:07 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

The moment in the first episode where they answered the phone: have you
tried turning it off then on again  .. yeah, it could be better, and
it's growing into it, but it has that cagey british comedy feel to it
that gets me :)

CW

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:58 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

But they came :-) 

I loved his answer machine.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:24 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

It's just British comedy, but the bit of:

Dear Sir / Madam:

FIRE!

FIRE!

Help Me!

I'm at 231 Browns Lane.

I look forward to hearing from you.

As an email to the emergency services killed me.






The information in this electronic mail message is sender's business
Confidential and may be legally privileged.  It is intended solely for
the addressee(s).  Access to this Internet electronic mail message by
anyone else is unauthorized.  If you are not the intended recipient, any
disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be
taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. The sender
believes that this E-mail and any attachments were free of any virus,
worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when sent. This message and
its attachments could have been infected during  transmission. By
reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts
full responsibility for taking protective and remedial action about
viruses and other defects. Cendant is not liable for any loss or damage
arising in any way from this message or its attachments.


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any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when 
sent. This message and its attachments could have been 
infected during  transmission. By reading the message and 
opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full 
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viruses and other defects. Cendant is not liable for any loss 
or damage arising in any way from this message or its 
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RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

2006-02-14 Thread Alex
I just grabbed all 4 episodes of IT Crowd in approx 10 mins via bittorrent.
That usually means it's extremely popular. Good sign :) 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary
 Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:16 PM
 To: The Hardware List
 Subject: RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd
 
 It's silly, its juvenile, but it's a bit of mindless fun in a 
 world that needs to lighten up a little.
 
 You mentioned the office earlier, which do you prefer the UK 
 version or the US version. I am very impressed with the US 
 version much better than any of the other comedies they have 
 tried to copy (coupling springs to mind). I a on the verge of 
 saying that I think the US version is better and that takes a 
 lot coming from me. 
 
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 The moment in the first episode where they answered the 
 phone: have you tried turning it off then on again  .. 
 yeah, it could be better, and it's growing into it, but it 
 has that cagey british comedy feel to it that gets me :)
 
 CW
 
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 But they came :-) 
 
 I loved his answer machine.
 
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 It's just British comedy, but the bit of:
 
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Re: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

2006-02-14 Thread Greg Sevart
It never ceases to amaze me how many people still blindly download things 
using bittorrent.


Personally, I wouldn't go near it with a 10ft pole, ESPECIALLY if using a 
cable provider (comcast?), but that's me I guess.



Greg

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To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
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I just grabbed all 4 episodes of IT Crowd in approx 10 mins via bittorrent.
That usually means it's extremely popular. Good sign :)






RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

2006-02-14 Thread Chris Reeves
Channel 4 is a public owned network in the UK.  They put out the files
themselves on the internet each week for free download for anyone in the UK.
It then spreads, of course, but uh, sharing The IT Crowd is not the same
as most content - the network itself packages a nice version for the web.

CW

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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:36 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

It never ceases to amaze me how many people still blindly download things 
using bittorrent.

Personally, I wouldn't go near it with a 10ft pole, ESPECIALLY if using a 
cable provider (comcast?), but that's me I guess.


Greg

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To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:19 PM
Subject: RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd


I just grabbed all 4 episodes of IT Crowd in approx 10 mins via bittorrent.
 That usually means it's extremely popular. Good sign :)





Re: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

2006-02-14 Thread Bryan Seitz
On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 10:35:34PM -0600, Greg Sevart wrote:
 It never ceases to amaze me how many people still blindly download things 
 using bittorrent.
 
 Personally, I wouldn't go near it with a 10ft pole, ESPECIALLY if using a 
 cable provider (comcast?), but that's me I guess.

Uh... why not?

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz


RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

2006-02-14 Thread Chris Reeves
http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/I/itcrowd/

(ie, see the Watch Online Now!)  Yes, you can only download in the UK, but
that is primarily a bandwidth issue.

CW

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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:59 PM
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Subject: RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

Channel 4 is a public owned network in the UK.  They put out the files
themselves on the internet each week for free download for anyone in the UK.
It then spreads, of course, but uh, sharing The IT Crowd is not the same
as most content - the network itself packages a nice version for the web.

CW

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:36 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

It never ceases to amaze me how many people still blindly download things 
using bittorrent.

Personally, I wouldn't go near it with a 10ft pole, ESPECIALLY if using a 
cable provider (comcast?), but that's me I guess.


Greg

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From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:19 PM
Subject: RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd


I just grabbed all 4 episodes of IT Crowd in approx 10 mins via bittorrent.
 That usually means it's extremely popular. Good sign :)





RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

2006-02-14 Thread Chris Reeves
Moreover, any show that has as it's tag line Fair Use has a Posse  ;)

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:59 PM
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Subject: RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

Channel 4 is a public owned network in the UK.  They put out the files
themselves on the internet each week for free download for anyone in the UK.
It then spreads, of course, but uh, sharing The IT Crowd is not the same
as most content - the network itself packages a nice version for the web.

CW

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:36 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

It never ceases to amaze me how many people still blindly download things 
using bittorrent.

Personally, I wouldn't go near it with a 10ft pole, ESPECIALLY if using a 
cable provider (comcast?), but that's me I guess.


Greg

- Original Message - 
From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:19 PM
Subject: RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd


I just grabbed all 4 episodes of IT Crowd in approx 10 mins via bittorrent.
 That usually means it's extremely popular. Good sign :)





Re: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

2006-02-14 Thread Greg Sevart
Okay, that's cool, I'll buy that...but just in a more general sense, it 
amazes me how popular BT remains despite the fact that it is the most 
heavily monitored of any P2P technology.


I don't touch any of it. Seems stupid to me--but again, that's just me.

Greg

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:58 PM
Subject: RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd



Channel 4 is a public owned network in the UK.  They put out the files
themselves on the internet each week for free download for anyone in the 
UK.

It then spreads, of course, but uh, sharing The IT Crowd is not the same
as most content - the network itself packages a nice version for the web.

CW

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:36 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd

It never ceases to amaze me how many people still blindly download things
using bittorrent.

Personally, I wouldn't go near it with a 10ft pole, ESPECIALLY if using a
cable provider (comcast?), but that's me I guess.


Greg

- Original Message - 
From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:19 PM
Subject: RE: [H] British TV: The IT Crowd


I just grabbed all 4 episodes of IT Crowd in approx 10 mins via 
bittorrent.

That usually means it's extremely popular. Good sign :)










[H] AntiSpyware becomes Defender...

2006-02-14 Thread Stan Zaske
Microsoft AntiSpyware has gone to Beta 2 status and is now called, 
Window's Defender. Check it out if you want one more tool for your XP box.


http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=4515857