Re: [H] HTPC - Which Software?

[Steve Tomporowski]

Vista never lasted long enough on my box for me to try out the media
center.  I just thought it was a waste of time to get used to the
changes in the UI and do the tweaks to speed it up.

Steve

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 4:27 PM,   wrote:
> Wow.  I've had no problems with 1080p blueray on a 400 box with vista 
> (780g+5200+). Counting access to mytv and the like which are vista only 
> add-ons, I will deal.
>
> Sent via BlackBerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Steve Tomporowski" 
>
> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:28:07
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [H] HTPC - Which Software?
>
>
> Yeah, I looked that up.  Vista is a no go for me.  I installed on a
> new system with plenty of horsepower and it ran like a dog, but worse,
> there were so many little changes in everything that it was
> frustrating to use, especially dealing with files.  I thought, yeah I
> can get used to that and yeah, I can tweak it to get faster but then
> realized the quickest way to do all of those things was to wipe and
> install XP.  Vista lasted 3 days
>
> Steve
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:12 AM,   wrote:
>> Vmc is vista media center.
>> Sent via BlackBerry
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Steve Tomporowski" 
>>
>> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 10:00:06
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: [H] HTPC - Which Software?
>>
>>
>> What's vmc?  I was going by the recomendations in this thread, I don't
>> think that came up.  Meedio was also recommended but I pretty much
>> stopped when I got something that actually worked.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:02 PM,   wrote:
>>> So, if I can ask... What's wrong with vmc?
>>>
>>> --Original Message--
>>> From: Bobby Heid
>>> Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
>>> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
>>> ReplyTo: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
>>> Sent: Jan 4, 2009 12:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [H] HTPC - Which Software?
>>>
>>> It is about $100 retail.
>>>
>>> Bobby
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
>>> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 1:44 PM
>>> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
>>> Subject: Re: [H] HTPC - Which Software?
>>>
>>>
Beyond TV:  Installed easily.  Virtually no setup.  Uses Hauppauge
Remote.  Image quality is fine.  Uh, huh?  But where's the
problems
>>>
>>> Beyond TV isn't cheap though is it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
Working for about a day now with no issues.  I think you can guess my
recommendation.;-)

Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent via BlackBerry
>>>
>>
>

[H] Ram diagnostic?

[DHSinclair]

Thane,
Have you tried this RAM diagnostic tool from MS?

http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

Just wondering?  Finally got its' dot-iso burned to a CD-r/w, and it is now 
running.  I am trying to certify the remaining dimm in my "suspect" new 
PC.  So far, so good.

Best,
Duncan

Re: [H] Ram diagnostic?

[Thane Sherrington]

At 01:02 PM 07/01/2009, DHSinclair wrote:

Thane,
Have you tried this RAM diagnostic tool from MS?

http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

Just wondering?  Finally got its' dot-iso burned to a CD-r/w, and it 
is now running.  I am trying to certify the remaining dimm in my 
"suspect" new PC.  So far, so good.


I've tried it and use it from time to time.  About the same as 
MemTest - if it finds a failure, then you can be pretty sure it's a 
bad DIMM.  If it doesn't find a problem, it doesn't prove a good DIMM.


T 

Re: [H] Ram diagnostic?

[DHSinclair]

Thane,
Yes, proving a "good" dimm seems like proving a double-negative!!!  Not 
likely; well until we have a definitive standard's based diagnostic 
module.  But, the way thinks change so quickly, I now understand your 
frustration.. :)

Best,
Duncan

At 13:12 01/07/2009 -0400, you wrote:

At 01:02 PM 07/01/2009, DHSinclair wrote:

Thane,
Have you tried this RAM diagnostic tool from MS?

http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

Just wondering?  Finally got its' dot-iso burned to a CD-r/w, and it is 
now running.  I am trying to certify the remaining dimm in my "suspect" 
new PC.  So far, so good.


I've tried it and use it from time to time.  About the same as MemTest - 
if it finds a failure, then you can be pretty sure it's a bad DIMM.  If it 
doesn't find a problem, it doesn't prove a good DIMM.


T

[H] Used scsi HD's?

[DHSinclair]

Looking for a used scsi hard drive, if you have same.

I'd like it to connect to an Adaptec 2940UW;
Looking for 10Krpm, but will accept 7200rpm;
Size must be at least 9GB, 18GB or > is even better!

I made a severe boo-boo!  Windows XP just will not fit on a 4.5GB Cheetah
No matter what is tried :)
LOL!!

So, dead dinosaur until new sponge is found!
Thank you,
Duncan

Re: [H] Used scsi HD's?

[Bryan Seitz]

Reasonable sized new IDE HD: $60 and will spank the performance of that 2940UW 
:)

On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 03:42:56PM -0500, DHSinclair wrote:
> Looking for a used scsi hard drive, if you have same.
>
> I'd like it to connect to an Adaptec 2940UW;
> Looking for 10Krpm, but will accept 7200rpm;
> Size must be at least 9GB, 18GB or > is even better!
>
> I made a severe boo-boo!  Windows XP just will not fit on a 4.5GB Cheetah
> No matter what is tried :)
> LOL!!
>
> So, dead dinosaur until new sponge is found!
> Thank you,
> Duncan

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz

Re: [H] Used scsi HD's?

[DHSinclair]

Brian,
Yes, I do realize that what you say is quite true.
Let's just say I am still playing with old dinosaurs!  I have 
retired/killed two.  This PC has some sentimental links.  I'd like to keep 
it burning trons.  OK?


The m/b is an ancient Micron "Lightning II" type that came to me w/Adaptec 
2940UW in place.
I have tried to tickle the EIDE/PATA logic, but it seems that Micron 
'focused' its' bios to the Adaptec
scsi I/O.  I am still studying this old PC (from time to time).  No. I do 
not know what I eventually wish to do with it yet.  As long as I can keep 
it working, happy, and sort of current, it stays in the inventory (until 
formal retirement due to RTF).


I get it!  Really, I do!  All my other Clients are now combinations of 
Pata/Sata on XP SP3.

All are running strong!
Thank you,
Duncan

At 16:07 01/07/2009 -0500, you wrote:
Reasonable sized new IDE HD: $60 and will spank the performance of that 
2940UW :)


On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 03:42:56PM -0500, DHSinclair wrote:
> Looking for a used scsi hard drive, if you have same.
>
> I'd like it to connect to an Adaptec 2940UW;
> Looking for 10Krpm, but will accept 7200rpm;
> Size must be at least 9GB, 18GB or > is even better!
>
> I made a severe boo-boo!  Windows XP just will not fit on a 4.5GB 
Cheetah

> No matter what is tried :)
> LOL!!
>
> So, dead dinosaur until new sponge is found!
> Thank you,
> Duncan

--

Bryan G. Seitz

Re: [H] Used scsi HD's?

[James Boswell]

I've got some 10K RPM Fujitsu scsi drives around here somewhere, I  
_THINK_ they're 18GB each.. but they might be 36's.. I'll have to dig  
them up and check.


On 7 Jan 2009, at 20:42, DHSinclair wrote:


Looking for a used scsi hard drive, if you have same.

I'd like it to connect to an Adaptec 2940UW;
Looking for 10Krpm, but will accept 7200rpm;
Size must be at least 9GB, 18GB or > is even better!

I made a severe boo-boo!  Windows XP just will not fit on a 4.5GB  
Cheetah

No matter what is tried :)
LOL!!

So, dead dinosaur until new sponge is found!
Thank you,
Duncan

Re: [H] Used scsi HD's?

[DHSinclair]

James,
Thank you very much. But, IIRC, you are in the UK.
Fujitsu is good!  For this operation, Brand is not important!
But,
The shipping charges might kill me; even after you find them. :)
And, still willing to negotiate!!
I really do appreciate the thought..
Best,
Duncan

At 21:34 01/07/2009 +, you wrote:

I've got some 10K RPM Fujitsu scsi drives around here somewhere, I
_THINK_ they're 18GB each.. but they might be 36's.. I'll have to dig
them up and check.

On 7 Jan 2009, at 20:42, DHSinclair wrote:


Looking for a used scsi hard drive, if you have same.

I'd like it to connect to an Adaptec 2940UW;
Looking for 10Krpm, but will accept 7200rpm;
Size must be at least 9GB, 18GB or > is even better!

I made a severe boo-boo!  Windows XP just will not fit on a 4.5GB
Cheetah
No matter what is tried :)
LOL!!

So, dead dinosaur until new sponge is found!
Thank you,
Duncan

Re: [H] Used scsi HD's?

[John R Steinbruner]

Prolly should not say anything, but I had 2 36 giggers and 2 18  
giggers on the shelf for years.


Just finally threw them away recently when I installed a VeliciRaptors  
for my boot drive.


I knew I would never use them again...

Sorry 'bout that..  :(




On Jan 7, 2009, at 12:42 PM, DHSinclair wrote:


Looking for a used scsi hard drive, if you have same.

I'd like it to connect to an Adaptec 2940UW;
Looking for 10Krpm, but will accept 7200rpm;
Size must be at least 9GB, 18GB or > is even better!

I made a severe boo-boo!  Windows XP just will not fit on a 4.5GB  
Cheetah

No matter what is tried :)
LOL!!

So, dead dinosaur until new sponge is found!
Thank you,
Duncan




--
JRS steinie**...@pacbell.net
Please remove  **X**  to reply...

Facts do not cease to exist just
because they are ignored.

Re: [H] Used scsi HD's?

[DHSinclair]

DAMN
All I've got to say...LOL!
Stuff happens...thanks!.. :)
Duncan

At 15:40 01/07/2009 -0800, you wrote:

Prolly should not say anything, but I had 2 36 giggers and 2 18
giggers on the shelf for years.

Just finally threw them away recently when I installed a VeliciRaptors
for my boot drive.

I knew I would never use them again...

Sorry 'bout that..  :(




On Jan 7, 2009, at 12:42 PM, DHSinclair wrote:


Looking for a used scsi hard drive, if you have same.

I'd like it to connect to an Adaptec 2940UW;
Looking for 10Krpm, but will accept 7200rpm;
Size must be at least 9GB, 18GB or > is even better!

I made a severe boo-boo!  Windows XP just will not fit on a 4.5GB
Cheetah
No matter what is tried :)
LOL!!

So, dead dinosaur until new sponge is found!
Thank you,
Duncan



--
JRS steinie**...@pacbell.net
Please remove  **X**  to reply...

Facts do not cease to exist just
because they are ignored.

[H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Bobby Heid]

Hey,

 

I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit of
about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
plans on an ATI card.

 

Guru3d.com has a review of the yet-to-be released Nvidia GTX 295 here
(retail - $500):

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/

 

Newegg.com has an EVGA GTX 280 for $425 - $100 IR - $20 MIR = $305

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365
 &CMP=AFC-C8Junction

 

My questions for you all are:

 

1)  Do you think the GTX 280s will come down in price more than this
once the 295s come out?

2)  Aren't the 280s supposed to use the smaller die size (55nm I think)
like the 295s will use?

3)  Anyone know any reasons why I should wait a bit longer to get a VC?

 

Thanks,

Bobby

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[tmservo]

Wait 
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: "Bobby Heid" 

Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 20:23:12 
To: 
Subject: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?


Hey,

 

I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit of
about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
plans on an ATI card.

 

Guru3d.com has a review of the yet-to-be released Nvidia GTX 295 here
(retail - $500):

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/

 

Newegg.com has an EVGA GTX 280 for $425 - $100 IR - $20 MIR = $305

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365
 &CMP=AFC-C8Junction

 

My questions for you all are:

 

1)  Do you think the GTX 280s will come down in price more than this
once the 295s come out?

2)  Aren't the 280s supposed to use the smaller die size (55nm I think)
like the 295s will use?

3)  Anyone know any reasons why I should wait a bit longer to get a VC?

 

Thanks,

Bobby

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Brian Weeden]

I'm a huge believer in buying the previous generation of video cards when
the new ones come out.  As long as you aren't one of those fanatics who are
driven to have the absolutely highest resolution and frame rate you should
be fine with any of the current crop.

I recently went from a X1950 to a 4850 and I'm happy as a clam.

--
Brian


On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Bobby Heid  wrote:

> Hey,
>
>
>
> I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit
> of
> about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
> plans on an ATI card.
>
>
>
> Guru3d.com has a review of the yet-to-be released Nvidia GTX 295 here
> (retail - $500):
>
> http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/
>
>
>
> Newegg.com has an EVGA GTX 280 for $425 - $100 IR - $20 MIR = $305
>
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365
> <
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365&CMP=AFC-C8J
> unction> &CMP=AFC-C8Junction
>
>
>
> My questions for you all are:
>
>
>
> 1)  Do you think the GTX 280s will come down in price more than this
> once the 295s come out?
>
> 2)  Aren't the 280s supposed to use the smaller die size (55nm I think)
> like the 295s will use?
>
> 3)  Anyone know any reasons why I should wait a bit longer to get a VC?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bobby
>
>

[H] Re-introduction for Bino Gopal...

[Bino Gopal]

 

Hey folks, just wanted to take a minute and say "Hi!" as it's been a while;
so long in fact that I can't even figure out how long it's been since I've
been on the list, but I'm finally back!

 

It's good to see all the old familiar names in my email inbox, like
DHSinclair, and Steinie, and James Boswell, and Thane S, and Steve T,  and
Jim McCraw, and Christopher Fisk, and Eli Allen and Harry McGregor and the
Brians (Weeden and Seitz)!  Who said you can't go home again! ;)  And the
list is still here and it's the same-old discussion with DH and all his
*OLD* toys and Thane still dealing with fixing other people's problems and
everyone asking what's the best; it's so cool!

 

Anyway, just wanted to say hi and hello and all that!  Hope to be posting
more soon as I've had thoughts on a few threads I wanted to start, but just
no time right now (in addition to just getting sick this week), but you'll
see some soon! ;)

 

Now some nostalgia/history-related questions: is Jim still around as I see
that the mailman page says it's run by jedwards, but I haven't seen him post
on here yet.any others of the old guard around that I haven't seen post
either?  Does someone have a history and the evolution of the group, either
btw?  Maybe I'm just being nostalgic, but wanted to know how things
progressed while I was off saving the internet (ok just working on helping
the big dotcoms build out their websites) and find out what happened.  Did
we ever have any other cons/meetups after 2001 or so, or has it all just
stayed virtual?  I guess I must have lost track after I lost my Columbia.edu
email account, when I left NYC and moved to LA.anyone with better archives
than me know?! :P

 

Anyway, great to be back, and great to see that the "collective" (at least
this one, as I'm a member of at least three others) is still here!  Cheers,
and Happy New Year 2009 btw!

 

 
BINO (Bino Gopal, aka keltraine online most places now)

Re: [H] Re-introduction for Bino Gopal...

[DHSinclair]

keltraine,
Welcome back...I am now a bit more modern. Only 2 "old" PC's 
and all else is XPxp3.

(4+1 on a GBit LAN w/NAS)
THIS Collective still rulez as far as I care!  I'm sure that there are many 
more brain-trusts.

I choose to stay here and take my lumps!
Happy New Year
Duncan

At 17:51 01/07/2009 -0800, you wrote:





Hey folks, just wanted to take a minute and say "Hi!" as it's been a while;
so long in fact that I can't even figure out how long it's been since I've
been on the list, but I'm finally back!



It's good to see all the old familiar names in my email inbox, like
DHSinclair, and Steinie, and James Boswell, and Thane S, and Steve T,  and
Jim McCraw, and Christopher Fisk, and Eli Allen and Harry McGregor and the
Brians (Weeden and Seitz)!  Who said you can't go home again! ;)  And the
list is still here and it's the same-old discussion with DH and all his
*OLD* toys and Thane still dealing with fixing other people's problems and
everyone asking what's the best; it's so cool!



Anyway, just wanted to say hi and hello and all that!  Hope to be posting
more soon as I've had thoughts on a few threads I wanted to start, but just
no time right now (in addition to just getting sick this week), but you'll
see some soon! ;)



Now some nostalgia/history-related questions: is Jim still around as I see
that the mailman page says it's run by jedwards, but I haven't seen him post
on here yet.any others of the old guard around that I haven't seen post
either?  Does someone have a history and the evolution of the group, either
btw?  Maybe I'm just being nostalgic, but wanted to know how things
progressed while I was off saving the internet (ok just working on helping
the big dotcoms build out their websites) and find out what happened.  Did
we ever have any other cons/meetups after 2001 or so, or has it all just
stayed virtual?  I guess I must have lost track after I lost my Columbia.edu
email account, when I left NYC and moved to LA.anyone with better archives
than me know?! :P



Anyway, great to be back, and great to see that the "collective" (at least
this one, as I'm a member of at least three others) is still here!  Cheers,
and Happy New Year 2009 btw!




BINO (Bino Gopal, aka keltraine online most places now)

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Bobby Heid]

Can you tell me why I should wait?

Thanks,
Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of tmse...@rlrnews.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:28 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

Wait 
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: "Bobby Heid" 

Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 20:23:12 
To: 
Subject: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?


Hey,

 

I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit of
about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
plans on an ATI card.

 

Guru3d.com has a review of the yet-to-be released Nvidia GTX 295 here
(retail - $500):

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/

 

Newegg.com has an EVGA GTX 280 for $425 - $100 IR - $20 MIR = $305

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365
 &CMP=AFC-C8Junction

 

My questions for you all are:

 

1)  Do you think the GTX 280s will come down in price more than this
once the 295s come out?

2)  Aren't the 280s supposed to use the smaller die size (55nm I think)
like the 295s will use?

3)  Anyone know any reasons why I should wait a bit longer to get a VC?

 

Thanks,

Bobby

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Bryan Seitz]

Die shrink to 55nm is a huge win... I'd wait as well and I currently have a 
GTX280 :)

On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 09:17:03PM -0500, Bobby Heid wrote:
> Can you tell me why I should wait?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bobby
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of tmse...@rlrnews.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:28 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
> 
> Wait 
> Sent via BlackBerry 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Bobby Heid" 
> 
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 20:23:12 
> To: 
> Subject: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
> 
> 
> Hey,
> 
>  
> 
> I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit of
> about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
> plans on an ATI card.
> 
>  
> 
> Guru3d.com has a review of the yet-to-be released Nvidia GTX 295 here
> (retail - $500):
> 
> http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/
> 
>  
> 
> Newegg.com has an EVGA GTX 280 for $425 - $100 IR - $20 MIR = $305
> 
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365
>  unction> &CMP=AFC-C8Junction
> 
>  
> 
> My questions for you all are:
> 
>  
> 
> 1)  Do you think the GTX 280s will come down in price more than this
> once the 295s come out?
> 
> 2)  Aren't the 280s supposed to use the smaller die size (55nm I think)
> like the 295s will use?
> 
> 3)  Anyone know any reasons why I should wait a bit longer to get a VC?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bobby
> 

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Bobby Heid]

Ok, I'll wait :-(

Thanks,
Bobby


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:43 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

Die shrink to 55nm is a huge win... I'd wait as well and I currently have a
GTX280 :)

On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 09:17:03PM -0500, Bobby Heid wrote:
> Can you tell me why I should wait?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bobby
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of
tmse...@rlrnews.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:28 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
> 
> Wait 
> Sent via BlackBerry 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Bobby Heid" 
> 
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 20:23:12 
> To: 
> Subject: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
> 
> 
> Hey,
> 
>  
> 
> I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit
of
> about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
> plans on an ATI card.
> 
>  
> 
> Guru3d.com has a review of the yet-to-be released Nvidia GTX 295 here
> (retail - $500):
> 
> http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/
> 
>  
> 
> Newegg.com has an EVGA GTX 280 for $425 - $100 IR - $20 MIR = $305
> 
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365
>
 unction> &CMP=AFC-C8Junction
> 
>  
> 
> My questions for you all are:
> 
>  
> 
> 1)  Do you think the GTX 280s will come down in price more than this
> once the 295s come out?
> 
> 2)  Aren't the 280s supposed to use the smaller die size (55nm I
think)
> like the 295s will use?
> 
> 3)  Anyone know any reasons why I should wait a bit longer to get a
VC?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bobby
> 

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Bobby Heid]

But, I just thought of something.  Once they shrink the dies, will the price
go up for the new ones?  Remember, I don't really want to spend over $300.

Thanks,
Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:27 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

Ok, I'll wait :-(

Thanks,
Bobby


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From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:43 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

Die shrink to 55nm is a huge win... I'd wait as well and I currently have a
GTX280 :)

On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 09:17:03PM -0500, Bobby Heid wrote:
> Can you tell me why I should wait?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bobby
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of
tmse...@rlrnews.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:28 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
> 
> Wait 
> Sent via BlackBerry 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Bobby Heid" 
> 
> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 20:23:12 
> To: 
> Subject: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
> 
> 
> Hey,
> 
>  
> 
> I am in the process of building a new machine.  I have decided on a limit
of
> about $300 to spend on the video card.  I am an NVidia guy so I have no
> plans on an ATI card.
> 
>  
> 
> Guru3d.com has a review of the yet-to-be released Nvidia GTX 295 here
> (retail - $500):
> 
> http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/
> 
>  
> 
> Newegg.com has an EVGA GTX 280 for $425 - $100 IR - $20 MIR = $305
> 
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130365
>
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> 
>  
> 
> My questions for you all are:
> 
>  
> 
> 1)  Do you think the GTX 280s will come down in price more than this
> once the 295s come out?
> 
> 2)  Aren't the 280s supposed to use the smaller die size (55nm I
think)
> like the 295s will use?
> 
> 3)  Anyone know any reasons why I should wait a bit longer to get a
VC?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bobby
> 

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz

Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?

[Greg Sevart]

Technically, a smaller GPU usually means a cheaper chip. That doesn't always
translate to street prices, of course. However, given the pressure AMD's
excellent 4800-series chips are putting on nvidia, they may see fit to drop
prices as their costs decrease.

Do you really mean the dual-GPU SLI GTX 295, or the single-GPU GTX 285 that
will be based on chips with the same 55nm process? If the former, you can
forget about $300. If the latter...it's possible. Look at the 8800GTS based
on G80 vs the 8800GTS based on G92. Faster card, but was less expensive as
the G92 die cost less to manufacture.


> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:35 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] GTX 280 or wait for GTX 295?
> 
> But, I just thought of something.  Once they shrink the dies, will the
> price
> go up for the new ones?  Remember, I don't really want to spend over
> $300.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bobby
> 

Re: [H] Re-introduction for Bino Gopal...

[Keltraine]

Thanks Duncan!  Good to see you're still here!  So on my nostalgic note,
whatever happened to Lopaka?  Remember him?  I met up with him and one other
guy at E3 in LA ~summer 2001...haven't seen him posting though!

BINO


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From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:01 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Re-introduction for Bino Gopal...

keltraine,
Welcome back...I am now a bit more modern. Only 2 "old" PC's 
and all else is XPxp3.
(4+1 on a GBit LAN w/NAS)
THIS Collective still rulez as far as I care!  I'm sure that there are many 
more brain-trusts.
I choose to stay here and take my lumps!
Happy New Year
Duncan

At 17:51 01/07/2009 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Hey folks, just wanted to take a minute and say "Hi!" as it's been a while;
>so long in fact that I can't even figure out how long it's been since I've
>been on the list, but I'm finally back!
>
>
>
>It's good to see all the old familiar names in my email inbox, like
>DHSinclair, and Steinie, and James Boswell, and Thane S, and Steve T,  and
>Jim McCraw, and Christopher Fisk, and Eli Allen and Harry McGregor and the
>Brians (Weeden and Seitz)!  Who said you can't go home again! ;)  And the
>list is still here and it's the same-old discussion with DH and all his
>*OLD* toys and Thane still dealing with fixing other people's problems and
>everyone asking what's the best; it's so cool!
>
>
>
>Anyway, just wanted to say hi and hello and all that!  Hope to be posting
>more soon as I've had thoughts on a few threads I wanted to start, but just
>no time right now (in addition to just getting sick this week), but you'll
>see some soon! ;)
>
>
>
>Now some nostalgia/history-related questions: is Jim still around as I see
>that the mailman page says it's run by jedwards, but I haven't seen him
post
>on here yet.any others of the old guard around that I haven't seen post
>either?  Does someone have a history and the evolution of the group, either
>btw?  Maybe I'm just being nostalgic, but wanted to know how things
>progressed while I was off saving the internet (ok just working on helping
>the big dotcoms build out their websites) and find out what happened.  Did
>we ever have any other cons/meetups after 2001 or so, or has it all just
>stayed virtual?  I guess I must have lost track after I lost my
Columbia.edu
>email account, when I left NYC and moved to LA.anyone with better archives
>than me know?! :P
>
>
>
>Anyway, great to be back, and great to see that the "collective" (at least
>this one, as I'm a member of at least three others) is still here!  Cheers,
>and Happy New Year 2009 btw!
>
>
>
>
>BINO (Bino Gopal, aka keltraine online most places now)