Re: [H] Cox blocking

2007-12-20 Thread Mark Dodge
I think I have on stranger than this, Earthlink's own spamblocker blocks my
earthlink email address. And I have put it in the OK list.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tharin Olsen
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:30 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Cox blocking

For an ISP to block a particular userid is a strange idea to me.

Do a test by using an email account that is configured with all your valid
Cox credentials first. Setup eudora, outlook, or whatever with an account
that has your Cox address as the from and reply-to address. Looks like your
smtp server is smtp.west.cox.net

Section V of the following link may have details pertinent to your trouble.
http://www.cox.com/sandiego/highspeedinternet/spamfaq.asp

-Tharin O.

Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 03:48 PM 12/19/2007, you
wrote:
>Strange it would do that ONLY when sending mail to customer service 
>addresses.

not strange if Cox is blocking the domains or user name. I don't use 
COX SMTP. I use Godaddy's, and even though it gets blocked when I try 
to send it out of Eudora using Godaddy SMTP or Outlook using COX 
SMTP, I can log into my Godaddy email web interface and send things 
out just fine. so it isn't Godaddy ... it has to be COX... no??


>I honestly can't imagine this could be the whole story on your 
>problem. It would imply that Cox is blocking outgoing mail to 
>particular userids.
>
>Are you actually connected to a Cox internet connection and trying 
>to deliver it through the proper Cox smtp server??  Does your ISP 
>require or support SMTP authentication and have you enabled it in Eudora?
>
>Assuming you aren't making a typo in the 'To:' field of you mail client,

no, I am either pasting in the name or replying to email I received 
from some support or customer service address. This has been going on 
for well over a year.





Re: [H] Cox blocking

2007-12-20 Thread Gary VanderMolen

I can understand it being blocked when using Godaddy's SMTP,
since generally speaking, one isn't allowed to use port 25 SMTP
if the server doesn't belong to the network which is providing
your Internet connection. If I'm not mistaken, Godaddy's SMTP
has alternate ports you can substitute for '25'; one of the alternates
is port 80.

Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]

--
not strange if Cox is blocking the domains or user name. I don't use COX SMTP. I use Godaddy's, and even though it gets blocked 
when I try to send it out of Eudora using Godaddy SMTP or Outlook using COX SMTP, I can log into my Godaddy email web interface 
and send things out just fine. so it isn't Godaddy ... it has to be COX... no?? 




Re: [H] Cox blocking

2007-12-19 Thread Tharin Olsen
For an ISP to block a particular userid is a strange idea to me.

Do a test by using an email account that is configured with all your valid Cox 
credentials first. Setup eudora, outlook, or whatever with an account that has 
your Cox address as the from and reply-to address. Looks like your smtp server 
is smtp.west.cox.net

Section V of the following link may have details pertinent to your trouble.
http://www.cox.com/sandiego/highspeedinternet/spamfaq.asp

-Tharin O.

Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 03:48 PM 12/19/2007, you wrote:
>Strange it would do that ONLY when sending mail to customer service 
>addresses.

not strange if Cox is blocking the domains or user name. I don't use 
COX SMTP. I use Godaddy's, and even though it gets blocked when I try 
to send it out of Eudora using Godaddy SMTP or Outlook using COX 
SMTP, I can log into my Godaddy email web interface and send things 
out just fine. so it isn't Godaddy ... it has to be COX... no??


>I honestly can't imagine this could be the whole story on your 
>problem. It would imply that Cox is blocking outgoing mail to 
>particular userids.
>
>Are you actually connected to a Cox internet connection and trying 
>to deliver it through the proper Cox smtp server??  Does your ISP 
>require or support SMTP authentication and have you enabled it in Eudora?
>
>Assuming you aren't making a typo in the 'To:' field of you mail client,

no, I am either pasting in the name or replying to email I received 
from some support or customer service address. This has been going on 
for well over a year.





Re: [H] Cox blocking

2007-12-19 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 08:28 PM 19/12/2007, Winterlight wrote:

At 03:48 PM 12/19/2007, you wrote:
Strange it would do that ONLY when sending mail to customer service 
addresses.


not strange if Cox is blocking the domains or user name. I don't use 
COX SMTP. I use Godaddy's, and even though it gets blocked when I 
try to send it out of Eudora using Godaddy SMTP or Outlook using COX 
SMTP, I can log into my Godaddy email web interface and send things 
out just fine. so it isn't Godaddy ... it has to be COX... no??


If you aren't using Cox SMTP, then how could they be blocking unless 
they are blocking port 25, in which case all mail would be blocked, 
wouldn't it?


If I understand correctly, you could send to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] but you can't sent to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - and it doesn't matter which SMTP you use?


Might it be you have some sort of nickname in Eudora that picking up 
on the support part of the email and screwing it up?  Does it work 
from Thunderbird?


T 



Re: [H] Cox blocking

2007-12-19 Thread Brian Weeden
Yep, sorry wasn't thinking.

Sorry I don't really have anything else to suggest.  I use gmail for
everything and haven't had to deal with SMTP or ISP email in years so
I don't have much experience with this.


On 12/19/07, Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Could you maybe take a look at the email headers?  Maybe there is a
> >weird relay there or something.
>
> I can't see headers of the mail that doesn't arrive, and until the
> email is accepted, and leaves there are no headers I can see, other
> then the address.
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 12/19/07, Tharin Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Strange it would do that ONLY when sending mail to customer
> > service addresses. I honestly can't imagine this could be the whole
> > story on your problem. It would imply that Cox is blocking outgoing
> > mail to particular userids.
> > >
> > > Are you actually connected to a Cox internet connection and
> > trying to deliver it through the proper Cox smtp server??  Does
> > your ISP require or support SMTP authentication and have you
> > enabled it in Eudora?
> > >
> > > Assuming you aren't making a typo in the 'To:' field of you mail
> > client, often times a smtp server will reject mail with a 553 code
> > when the person/host trying to send the mail is using a different
> > internet provider or if the from/return address on the email is not
> > a valid address for that ISP. Sometimes enabling smtp
> > authentication in your mail client is all that needs to be done.
> > >
> > > -Tharin O.
> > >
> > > Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why does Cox
> > block customer service email? They have been doing this
> > > a long time. I can't reply with Eudora to anything from any tech
> > > support, or customer service, or anything like that. It gets blocked
> > > by COX SMTP server. I end up having to send from a web interface. It
> > > doesn't matter if I am sending to a big company like Logitech or a
> > > email vendor ,. I have the same
> > >
> > > Can't send to ''.  The server gives this reason: '553 Sorry, that
> > > domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts.'.
> > >
> > > error in Eudora.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Brian Weeden
>
>


-- 
Brian Weeden


Re: [H] Cox blocking

2007-12-19 Thread Winterlight



Could you maybe take a look at the email headers?  Maybe there is a
weird relay there or something.


I can't see headers of the mail that doesn't arrive, and until the 
email is accepted, and leaves there are no headers I can see, other 
then the address.







On 12/19/07, Tharin Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Strange it would do that ONLY when sending mail to customer 
service addresses. I honestly can't imagine this could be the whole 
story on your problem. It would imply that Cox is blocking outgoing 
mail to particular userids.

>
> Are you actually connected to a Cox internet connection and 
trying to deliver it through the proper Cox smtp server??  Does 
your ISP require or support SMTP authentication and have you 
enabled it in Eudora?

>
> Assuming you aren't making a typo in the 'To:' field of you mail 
client, often times a smtp server will reject mail with a 553 code 
when the person/host trying to send the mail is using a different 
internet provider or if the from/return address on the email is not 
a valid address for that ISP. Sometimes enabling smtp 
authentication in your mail client is all that needs to be done.

>
> -Tharin O.
>
> Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why does Cox 
block customer service email? They have been doing this

> a long time. I can't reply with Eudora to anything from any tech
> support, or customer service, or anything like that. It gets blocked
> by COX SMTP server. I end up having to send from a web interface. It
> doesn't matter if I am sending to a big company like Logitech or a
> email vendor ,. I have the same
>
> Can't send to ''.  The server gives this reason: '553 Sorry, that
> domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts.'.
>
> error in Eudora.
>
>
>


--
Brian Weeden




Re: [H] Cox blocking

2007-12-19 Thread Winterlight

At 03:48 PM 12/19/2007, you wrote:
Strange it would do that ONLY when sending mail to customer service 
addresses.


not strange if Cox is blocking the domains or user name. I don't use 
COX SMTP. I use Godaddy's, and even though it gets blocked when I try 
to send it out of Eudora using Godaddy SMTP or Outlook using COX 
SMTP, I can log into my Godaddy email web interface and send things 
out just fine. so it isn't Godaddy ... it has to be COX... no??



I honestly can't imagine this could be the whole story on your 
problem. It would imply that Cox is blocking outgoing mail to 
particular userids.


Are you actually connected to a Cox internet connection and trying 
to deliver it through the proper Cox smtp server??  Does your ISP 
require or support SMTP authentication and have you enabled it in Eudora?


Assuming you aren't making a typo in the 'To:' field of you mail client,


no, I am either pasting in the name or replying to email I received 
from some support or customer service address. This has been going on 
for well over a year.





Re: [H] Cox blocking

2007-12-19 Thread Brian Weeden
That's what I thought too Tharin.  I know a lot of ISPs are blocking
email servers inside their networks to cut down on spam.  Maybe this
is somehow related to that.

Could you maybe take a look at the email headers?  Maybe there is a
weird relay there or something.

On 12/19/07, Tharin Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Strange it would do that ONLY when sending mail to customer service 
> addresses. I honestly can't imagine this could be the whole story on your 
> problem. It would imply that Cox is blocking outgoing mail to particular 
> userids.
>
> Are you actually connected to a Cox internet connection and trying to deliver 
> it through the proper Cox smtp server??  Does your ISP require or support 
> SMTP authentication and have you enabled it in Eudora?
>
> Assuming you aren't making a typo in the 'To:' field of you mail client, 
> often times a smtp server will reject mail with a 553 code when the 
> person/host trying to send the mail is using a different internet provider or 
> if the from/return address on the email is not a valid address for that ISP. 
> Sometimes enabling smtp authentication in your mail client is all that needs 
> to be done.
>
> -Tharin O.
>
> Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why does Cox block customer service 
> email? They have been doing this
> a long time. I can't reply with Eudora to anything from any tech
> support, or customer service, or anything like that. It gets blocked
> by COX SMTP server. I end up having to send from a web interface. It
> doesn't matter if I am sending to a big company like Logitech or a
> email vendor ,. I have the same
>
> Can't send to ''.  The server gives this reason: '553 Sorry, that
> domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts.'.
>
> error in Eudora.
>
>
>


-- 
Brian Weeden


Re: [H] Cox blocking

2007-12-19 Thread Tharin Olsen
Strange it would do that ONLY when sending mail to customer service addresses. 
I honestly can't imagine this could be the whole story on your problem. It 
would imply that Cox is blocking outgoing mail to particular userids.

Are you actually connected to a Cox internet connection and trying to deliver 
it through the proper Cox smtp server??  Does your ISP require or support SMTP 
authentication and have you enabled it in Eudora? 

Assuming you aren't making a typo in the 'To:' field of you mail client, often 
times a smtp server will reject mail with a 553 code when the person/host 
trying to send the mail is using a different internet provider or if the 
from/return address on the email is not a valid address for that ISP. Sometimes 
enabling smtp authentication in your mail client is all that needs to be done.

-Tharin O.

Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why does Cox block customer service 
email? They have been doing this 
a long time. I can't reply with Eudora to anything from any tech 
support, or customer service, or anything like that. It gets blocked 
by COX SMTP server. I end up having to send from a web interface. It 
doesn't matter if I am sending to a big company like Logitech or a 
email vendor ,. I have the same

Can't send to ''.  The server gives this reason: '553 Sorry, that 
domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts.'.

error in Eudora.




Re: [H] Cox blocking

2007-12-19 Thread Brian Weeden
Looks like it has to do with authenication protocols and could
possibly be a mis-configured SMTP server on Cox's end.

http://help.lockergnome.com/office/553-domain-list-allowed-rcpthosts-ftopict428954.html

http://www.palomine.net/qmail/relaying.html

On 12/19/07, Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why does Cox block customer service email? They have been doing this
> a long time. I can't reply with Eudora to anything from any tech
> support, or customer service, or anything like that. It gets blocked
> by COX SMTP server. I end up having to send from a web interface. It
> doesn't matter if I am sending to a big company like Logitech or a
> email vendor ,. I have the same
>
> Can't send to ''.  The server gives this reason: '553 Sorry, that
> domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts.'.
>
> error in Eudora.
>
>


-- 
Brian Weeden


[H] Cox blocking

2007-12-19 Thread Winterlight
Why does Cox block customer service email? They have been doing this 
a long time. I can't reply with Eudora to anything from any tech 
support, or customer service, or anything like that. It gets blocked 
by COX SMTP server. I end up having to send from a web interface. It 
doesn't matter if I am sending to a big company like Logitech or a 
email vendor ,. I have the same


Can't send to ''.  The server gives this reason: '553 Sorry, that 
domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts.'.


error in Eudora.