Re: [H] Problems with HP Proliant DL140

2010-04-08 Thread Gaffer
Hi James,

On Thursday 08 April 2010 04:22:41 James Maki wrote:
 I purchased a refurbished HP Blade server, Proliant DL140 with dual
 3.06 GHz Xeon CPUs. It worked just fine and I was able to install
 Windows Server 2008. I had a slim format HP laptop DVD I was going to
 utilize, but the interface was different. In addition, the server was
 LOAD! So I decided to move the server to a different case.

 I removed the motherboard and placed in a full tower Antec case and
 purchased 2 3U heatpipe equipped heatsinks. When I try to start the
 server now, the power light comes on for several seconds and then
 shuts down again. The system does not have a speaker so I don't know
 if I am getting any beep codes. The only things connected to the
 motherboard are the two cpus and power connectors and original power
 switch. Any ideas on how to trouble shoot this situation?

 The original cpu heatsink mounting hardware connected directly to the
 case bottom. The new heatsinks in the new case required a backplate.
 Otherwise, it seems I have everything connected in the same way as it
 was in the original blade server case.

 Any hints or suggestions are most welcome.

 Thanks,

 Jim Maki
 jwm_maill...@comcast.net

Check that the Antec PSU has the same pin connections as the one in the 
server case.

-- 
Best Regards:
 Derrick.
 Running Open SuSE 11.1 KDE 3.5.10 Desktop.
 Pontefract Linux Users Group.
 plug @ play-net.co.uk


Re: [H] Problems with HP Proliant DL140

2010-04-08 Thread JRS
check to make sure the new backplate is not touching the case.


 -- 
J

 The original cpu heatsink mounting 
 hardware connected directly to the
 case bottom. The new heatsinks in the 
 new case required a backplate.
 Otherwise, it seems I have everything 
 connected in the same way as it
 was in the original blade server 
 case.

 Any hints or suggestions are most welcome.

 
 Thanks,

 Jim Maki
 
 ymailto=mailto:jwm_maill...@comcast.net; 
 href=mailto:jwm_maill...@comcast.net;jwm_maill...@comcast.net

Check 
 that the Antec PSU has the same pin connections as the one in the 
server 
 case.

-- 


Re: [H] Problems with HP Proliant DL140

2010-04-08 Thread James Maki
I was worried about that potential, so I moved the motherboard back to the
original case. Hooked up the power supply and switch and still did not boot.
I added back the fans and found that it will only boot if 1 fan in each bank
is connected (There are a total of 5 fans, 2 for each CPU and on for other
corridor of the blade server). 

These fans have 5 pin connectors. Is there a way to fool the motherboard
into thinking I have the fans connected? I am checking the web for potential
answers.

Thanks for the feedback.

Jim

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com 
 [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of JRS
 Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 1:10 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Problems with HP Proliant DL140
 
 check to make sure the new backplate is not touching the case.
 
 
  -- 
 J
 
  The original cpu heatsink mounting 
  hardware connected directly to the
  case bottom. The new heatsinks in the 
  new case required a backplate.



Re: [H] Problems with HP Proliant DL140

2010-04-08 Thread James Maki
Reconnected to the original power supply with the same results -- the system
will not boot. Found out it is a failsafe for the fans not being connected.

Thanks,

Jim 

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com 
 [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Gaffer
 Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:25 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Problems with HP Proliant DL140
 
 Hi James,
 
 On Thursday 08 April 2010 04:22:41 James Maki wrote:
  I purchased a refurbished HP Blade server, Proliant DL140 with dual
  3.06 GHz Xeon CPUs. It worked just fine and I was able to install
  Windows Server 2008. I had a slim format HP laptop DVD I 
 was going to
  utilize, but the interface was different. In addition, the 
 server was
  LOAD! So I decided to move the server to a different case.
 
  I removed the motherboard and placed in a full tower Antec case and
  purchased 2 3U heatpipe equipped heatsinks. When I try to start the
  server now, the power light comes on for several seconds and then
  shuts down again. The system does not have a speaker so I don't know
  if I am getting any beep codes. The only things connected to the
  motherboard are the two cpus and power connectors and original power
  switch. Any ideas on how to trouble shoot this situation?
 
  The original cpu heatsink mounting hardware connected 
 directly to the
  case bottom. The new heatsinks in the new case required a backplate.
  Otherwise, it seems I have everything connected in the same 
 way as it
  was in the original blade server case.
 
  Any hints or suggestions are most welcome.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jim Maki
  jwm_maill...@comcast.net
 
 Check that the Antec PSU has the same pin connections as the 
 one in the 
 server case.
 
 -- 
 Best Regards:
  Derrick.
  Running Open SuSE 11.1 KDE 3.5.10 Desktop.
  Pontefract Linux Users Group.
  plug @ play-net.co.uk



Re: [H] Problems with HP Proliant DL140

2010-04-08 Thread Winterlight
I ran a dual Xeon 3.06 setup for five years. I still have it but 
don't use it. Just so you know, the CPUs run HOT and suck down 
electricity like a wall heater, in fact you could use that box to 
heat up a room in the winter.

w

At 01:22 PM 4/8/2010, you wrote:

I was worried about that potential, so I moved the motherboard back to the
original case. Hooked up the power supply and switch and still did not boot.
I added back the fans and found that it will only boot if 1 fan in each bank
is connected (There are a total of 5 fans, 2 for each CPU and on for other
corridor of the blade server).

These fans have 5 pin connectors. Is there a way to fool the motherboard
into thinking I have the fans connected? I am checking the web for potential
answers.

Thanks for the feedback.

Jim

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
 [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of JRS
 Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 1:10 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Problems with HP Proliant DL140

 check to make sure the new backplate is not touching the case.


  --
 J

  The original cpu heatsink mounting
  hardware connected directly to the
  case bottom. The new heatsinks in the
  new case required a backplate.




Re: [H] Problems with HP Proliant DL140

2010-04-08 Thread Gaffer
Hi Jim,

On Thursday 08 April 2010 21:23:27 James Maki wrote:
 Reconnected to the original power supply with the same results -- the
 system will not boot. Found out it is a failsafe for the fans not
 being connected.

 Thanks,

 Jim

Glad you found the problem.  I had visions of the same trick that Dell 
used to do with the PSU.

-- 
Best Regards:
 Derrick.
 Running Open SuSE 11.1 KDE 3.5.10 Desktop.
 Pontefract Linux Users Group.
 plug @ play-net.co.uk


Re: [H] Problems with HP Proliant DL140

2010-04-08 Thread Gaffer
Hi Jim,

On Thursday 08 April 2010 21:22:01 James Maki wrote:
 I was worried about that potential, so I moved the motherboard back
 to the original case. Hooked up the power supply and switch and still
 did not boot. I added back the fans and found that it will only boot
 if 1 fan in each bank is connected (There are a total of 5 fans, 2
 for each CPU and on for other corridor of the blade server).

 These fans have 5 pin connectors. Is there a way to fool the
 motherboard into thinking I have the fans connected? I am checking
 the web for potential answers.

 Thanks for the feedback.

 Jim

You need the pinouts for both original and new fans.  If the new fans 
are only three wire you may need to provide a jumper to provide 
feedback to the sense pin on the mainboard.  If both original and new 
fans are four wire then its just a matter of getting the connections 
the right way round.

-- 
Best Regards:
 Derrick.
 Running Open SuSE 11.1 KDE 3.5.10 Desktop.
 Pontefract Linux Users Group.
 plug @ play-net.co.uk


Re: [H] Problems with HP Proliant DL140

2010-04-08 Thread DSinc

James,
I understand the pain with your Edge. And, why I keep using my old 
cwong-certified server. It is old. It is reliable. It works 24/7.


Yes, it seems that most modern servers have lots of perimeter controls 
as well as major cpu cooling protection logic. Good luck.

Best,
Duncan


On 04/08/2010 16:23, James Maki wrote:

Reconnected to the original power supply with the same results -- the system
will not boot. Found out it is a failsafe for the fans not being connected.

Thanks,

Jim


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Gaffer
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:25 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Problems with HP Proliant DL140

Hi James,

On Thursday 08 April 2010 04:22:41 James Maki wrote:

I purchased a refurbished HP Blade server, Proliant DL140 with dual
3.06 GHz Xeon CPUs. It worked just fine and I was able to install
Windows Server 2008. I had a slim format HP laptop DVD I

was going to

utilize, but the interface was different. In addition, the

server was

LOAD! So I decided to move the server to a different case.

I removed the motherboard and placed in a full tower Antec case and
purchased 2 3U heatpipe equipped heatsinks. When I try to start the
server now, the power light comes on for several seconds and then
shuts down again. The system does not have a speaker so I don't know
if I am getting any beep codes. The only things connected to the
motherboard are the two cpus and power connectors and original power
switch. Any ideas on how to trouble shoot this situation?

The original cpu heatsink mounting hardware connected

directly to the

case bottom. The new heatsinks in the new case required a backplate.
Otherwise, it seems I have everything connected in the same

way as it

was in the original blade server case.

Any hints or suggestions are most welcome.

Thanks,

Jim Maki
jwm_maill...@comcast.net


Check that the Antec PSU has the same pin connections as the
one in the
server case.

--
Best Regards:
  Derrick.
  Running Open SuSE 11.1 KDE 3.5.10 Desktop.
  Pontefract Linux Users Group.
  plug @ play-net.co.uk





[H] Problems with HP Proliant DL140

2010-04-07 Thread James Maki
I purchased a refurbished HP Blade server, Proliant DL140 with dual 3.06 GHz
Xeon CPUs. It worked just fine and I was able to install Windows Server
2008. I had a slim format HP laptop DVD I was going to utilize, but the
interface was different. In addition, the server was LOAD! So I decided to
move the server to a different case.

I removed the motherboard and placed in a full tower Antec case and
purchased 2 3U heatpipe equipped heatsinks. When I try to start the server
now, the power light comes on for several seconds and then shuts down again.
The system does not have a speaker so I don't know if I am getting any beep
codes. The only things connected to the motherboard are the two cpus and
power connectors and original power switch. Any ideas on how to trouble
shoot this situation? 

The original cpu heatsink mounting hardware connected directly to the case
bottom. The new heatsinks in the new case required a backplate. Otherwise,
it seems I have everything connected in the same way as it was in the
original blade server case. 

Any hints or suggestions are most welcome.

Thanks,

Jim Maki
jwm_maill...@comcast.net