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Mark, That is a good point, and, something that did cross my mind before I jumped in. I was an ATT customer in SoCal years ago Fired them for General Tel, which turned into Verizon (my first dsl experience!). I do still think about this. Yes, the top level execs and the bean counters are done. Now we wait for the infrastructure to truly absorb the merger...and make all the necessary connections.. :) And, as it two phone companies, I can only slightly imagine what might be going on in the IM shops of each entity! Good thing this dsl thing is monthly. I did not have to do a yearly contract. So, if something happens in the near/far future, Hmm, I'll deal with it then. And maybe why BellSouth dropped the year minimum from their really expensive offers soon after the merger. I have not gotten any phone calls from Mumbai since the meger. LOL! Guess a new call center is still in the works! Best, Duncan At 09:58 10/13/2007 -0400, you wrote: This will all change once everything is switched over to ATT anyway. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 4:14 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: [H] research questions OK Tim, Believe the router is a gateway router. Maybe not. How would I know? From my LAN's perspective, I am treating it as my gateway. All my clients have the router's IP addy as their gateway on the tcp/ip tab. In any case, I now have the IP addys I think I need. Some make sense, some do not. Q1: I use Eudora. BellSouth seems to be dead to Eudora. A faq lists these email clients: Netscape 4.0, 4.5 to 4.77, 6 or 7 Outlook Express Outlook 97/98/2K/2K2 Hmm. But, later on (more faqs) I find a setup procedure for Mozilla Thunderbird. So, all you TBird users, please advise. I do like/own Eudora (v5.1.1) and would like to continue unless it really is dead. Current plan is to use the Mozy setup once the channel goes hot and see what happens. Q2: Seems the Bellsouth blocks/filters port 25. Believe this is PoPmail port. Can I switch Eudora to IMAP and truck on with Bellsouth? Q3: Bellsouth uses the same server (mail.bellsouth.net) for both inbound and outbound mail. Is this normal? I do know that they seem to have extensive spam, junk, etc, filtering. Perhaps this is a good thing. :) So I check out the news server for Bellsouth and find that it is: (should I choose to do Opera or Agent!) nxdomain.guide.opendns.com 208.69.32.130 and the server is in San Francisco, CA. Q4: What's up with this? Are the news channels still as polluted as they were in 1999? So far, so good. Believe my due diligence is as complete as possible. For now. I'm off to check out Mozilla TBird.. Please accept my thanks to all who helped with replies and tips. Much appreciated. Now I just have to get hold of JE to change an addy and keep List mail flowing! Best, Duncan Netscape At 14:59 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote: If you use a gateway router you only need one address. Also, Network will be semi secured :) But if you decide to go the way your thinking, they give you a list of addresses you can use. You can use those addresses anyway you like. Regards, Tim The Beave Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
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Switch to T-Bird, better ITHO of a former Eudora user. If port 25 (outbound, to send mail) is blocked, the SMTP server you're contacting must support an alternative port known as MSA @ port 587. GMail uses different smtp port, 465. Pop3 (port 110 inbound) is for checking mail and is not likely blocked because it serves no purpose to do so. Server names have nothing to do with what the servers do, but the ports have to be unique for each service on the same IP address. DHSinclair wrote: OK Tim, Believe the router is a gateway router. Maybe not. How would I know? From my LAN's perspective, I am treating it as my gateway. All my clients have the router's IP addy as their gateway on the tcp/ip tab. In any case, I now have the IP addys I think I need. Some make sense, some do not. Q1: I use Eudora. BellSouth seems to be dead to Eudora. A faq lists these email clients: Netscape 4.0, 4.5 to 4.77, 6 or 7 Outlook Express Outlook 97/98/2K/2K2 Hmm. But, later on (more faqs) I find a setup procedure for Mozilla Thunderbird. So, all you TBird users, please advise. I do like/own Eudora (v5.1.1) and would like to continue unless it really is dead. Current plan is to use the Mozy setup once the channel goes hot and see what happens. Q2: Seems the Bellsouth blocks/filters port 25. Believe this is PoPmail port. Can I switch Eudora to IMAP and truck on with Bellsouth? Q3: Bellsouth uses the same server (mail.bellsouth.net) for both inbound and outbound mail. Is this normal? I do know that they seem to have extensive spam, junk, etc, filtering. Perhaps this is a good thing. :) Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
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If you use a gateway router you only need one address. Also, Network will be semi secured :) But if you decide to go the way your thinking, they give you a list of addresses you can use. You can use those addresses anyway you like. Regards, Tim The Beave Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:41 AM To: Hardware Group Subject: [H] research Can I assume that part of the xdsl install kit will be a sheet that lists the various IP addys for the servers I will need to use? Servers like POP, Mail, SMTP, Login(?), DNS, etc. I'm checking through my old Verizon credentials to see what I have/rcvd. If not, do I cause any trouble if I spend time with WhoIs and/or my Trace Route proggy to try and find out what I think I need? Alternately, I suppose I could call the provider's Help Desk, but I am not multi-lingual! LOL! Thanks, Duncan This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
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You should get either an email or a sheet with that info. Alternately, they probably have a website with that information, or you could ask someone on DSLReports.com. DHSinclair wrote: Can I assume that part of the xdsl install kit will be a sheet that lists the various IP addys for the servers I will need to use? Servers like POP, Mail, SMTP, Login(?), DNS, etc. I'm checking through my old Verizon credentials to see what I have/rcvd. If not, do I cause any trouble if I spend time with WhoIs and/or my Trace Route proggy to try and find out what I think I need? Alternately, I suppose I could call the provider's Help Desk, but I am not multi-lingual! LOL! Thanks, Duncan This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
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Thanks Ben, Spent time at the bellsouth.net site and got some of the info. And some flakey news that I'll ask in a follow-on email. Best, Duncan At 14:52 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote: You should get either an email or a sheet with that info. Alternately, they probably have a website with that information, or you could ask someone on DSLReports.com. DHSinclair wrote: Can I assume that part of the xdsl install kit will be a sheet that lists the various IP addys for the servers I will need to use? Servers like POP, Mail, SMTP, Login(?), DNS, etc. snip This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
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Thanks Tim, Was hoping this was the case, but needed to ask the collective anyway. 73 faqs later I have some good and some notsogood info to ponder. More q's to come... LOL! Amazing how complex this stuff has gotten! Or, maybe it is just my AAADD (age-affected-attention-deficit-disorder)!! Best, Duncan At 14:59 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote: If you use a gateway router you only need one address. Also, Network will be semi secured :) But if you decide to go the way your thinking, they give you a list of addresses you can use. You can use those addresses anyway you like. Regards, Tim The Beave Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
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Thanks Wayne, Sorry, Router is D-Link DGL-4300 (per Hayes recc). But, I will go look inside again tonight. Good, about Eudora/Netscape! OK, understand the other peep's mail server. Hmm..This will not affect List mail will it? Yes, will look at Agent 4.xI don't do much news anyway. I thought the name/addy was odd too. Good info, tnx! Best, Duncan At 17:39 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote: At 17:13 10-11-2007, DHSinclair typed: Believe the router is a gateway router. Maybe not. How would I know? Under Advanced Routing under Setup for your Linksys Router you can set it to either Gateway or Router. If you're connected directly to a modem then you're probably using Gateway mode. From my LAN's perspective, I am treating it as my gateway. All my clients have the router's IP addy as their gateway on the tcp/ip tab. In any case, I now have the IP addys I think I need. Some make sense, some do not. Q1: I use Eudora. BellSouth seems to be dead to Eudora. No way. If you can setup Netscape then you can setup Eudora. Q2: Seems the Bellsouth blocks/filters port 25. Believe this is PoPmail port. Can I switch Eudora to IMAP and truck on with Bellsouth? Many ISPs block/filter the 1st 1000 ports but that doesn't mean you can't get your mail. It just means you can't use someone else's email server on port 25. Q3: Bellsouth uses the same server (mail.bellsouth.net) for both inbound and outbound mail. Is this normal? I do know that they seem to have extensive spam, junk, etc, filtering. Perhaps this is a good thing. :) Is it normal? It is for them. Some other ISPs may do this. Some use pop.isp.com while others use pop3.isp.com for incoming as it's just a matter of configuration on the ISPs end. So I check out the news server for Bellsouth and find that it is: (should I choose to do Opera or Agent!) nxdomain.guide.opendns.com 208.69.32.130 and the server is in San Francisco, CA. Q4: What's up with this? Are the news channels still as polluted as they were in 1999? That addy is NOT a UseNet server addy. Most of them are news.isp.com format I would use the new Agent 4.x ---+-- I'm a geek that loves to tweak. This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
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Eudora should work with your provider, they just do not support it but settings are settings in any email program AFAIK. Or at least I can not imagine it not working. Using Eudora 7.1.0.9. My only complaint is it is slow to load 1st thing in the morning for some reason. Rest of the day OK fp At 03:38 PM 10/11/2007, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: Thanks Wayne, Sorry, Router is D-Link DGL-4300 (per Hayes recc). But, I will go look inside again tonight. Good, about Eudora/Netscape! OK, understand the other peep's mail server. Hmm..This will not affect List mail will it? Yes, will look at Agent 4.xI don't do much news anyway. I thought the name/addy was odd too. Good info, tnx! Best, Duncan At 17:39 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote: At 17:13 10-11-2007, DHSinclair typed: Believe the router is a gateway router. Maybe not. How would I know? Under Advanced Routing under Setup for your Linksys Router you can set it to either Gateway or Router. If you're connected directly to a modem then you're probably using Gateway mode. From my LAN's perspective, I am treating it as my gateway. All my clients have the router's IP addy as their gateway on the tcp/ip tab. In any case, I now have the IP addys I think I need. Some make sense, some do not. Q1: I use Eudora. BellSouth seems to be dead to Eudora. No way. If you can setup Netscape then you can setup Eudora. Q2: Seems the Bellsouth blocks/filters port 25. Believe this is PoPmail port. Can I switch Eudora to IMAP and truck on with Bellsouth? Many ISPs block/filter the 1st 1000 ports but that doesn't mean you can't get your mail. It just means you can't use someone else's email server on port 25. Q3: Bellsouth uses the same server (mail.bellsouth.net) for both inbound and outbound mail. Is this normal? I do know that they seem to have extensive spam, junk, etc, filtering. Perhaps this is a good thing. :) Is it normal? It is for them. Some other ISPs may do this. Some use pop.isp.com while others use pop3.isp.com for incoming as it's just a matter of configuration on the ISPs end. So I check out the news server for Bellsouth and find that it is: (should I choose to do Opera or Agent!) nxdomain.guide.opendns.com 208.69.32.130 and the server is in San Francisco, CA. Q4: What's up with this? Are the news channels still as polluted as they were in 1999? That addy is NOT a UseNet server addy. Most of them are news.isp.com format I would use the new Agent 4.x ---+-- I'm a geek that loves to tweak. This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Buddhist to hotdog vendor: Make me One with everything
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Well it is quite simple. After you select your DSL modem and Gate Router. I myself use Linksys Cable Modem, Linksys 4 Port/Wireless-N Router and a 8 port 1GB Switch. The 1GB switch is for the high speed transferring and streaming data off of itunes server. Good luck in the setup, Tim The Beave Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:49 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] research Thanks Tim, Was hoping this was the case, but needed to ask the collective anyway. 73 faqs later I have some good and some notsogood info to ponder. More q's to come... LOL! Amazing how complex this stuff has gotten! Or, maybe it is just my AAADD (age-affected-attention-deficit-disorder)!! Best, Duncan At 14:59 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote: If you use a gateway router you only need one address. Also, Network will be semi secured :) But if you decide to go the way your thinking, they give you a list of addresses you can use. You can use those addresses anyway you like. Regards, Tim The Beave Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
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OK Tim, Believe the router is a gateway router. Maybe not. How would I know? From my LAN's perspective, I am treating it as my gateway. All my clients have the router's IP addy as their gateway on the tcp/ip tab. It more than likely is a gateway router. Most are. Q1: I use Eudora. BellSouth seems to be dead to Eudora. A faq lists these email clients: Netscape 4.0, 4.5 to 4.77, 6 or 7 Outlook Express Outlook 97/98/2K/2K2 Hmm. But, later on (more faqs) I find a setup procedure for Mozilla Thunderbird. So, all you TBird users, please advise. I do like/own Eudora (v5.1.1) and would like to continue unless it really is dead. Current plan is to use the Mozy setup once the channel goes hot and see what happens. Easy to fix. Just use the Pop and SMPT information they use on Outlook to the other programs. I use Outlook now because I put client/friends info and make appointments within Outlook. Q2: Seems the Bellsouth blocks/filters port 25. Believe this is PoPmail port. Can I switch Eudora to IMAP and truck on with Bellsouth? Most Internet providers do this. I have problems sending mail via my work address. I just use my home address to send it with a reply-to my Work Address. Q3: Bellsouth uses the same server (mail.bellsouth.net) for both inbound and outbound mail. Is this normal? I do know that they seem to have extensive spam, junk, etc, filtering. Perhaps this is a good thing. :) In most cases it's the norm. I have seen it like a lot. So I check out the news server for Bellsouth and find that it is: (should I choose to do Opera or Agent!) nxdomain.guide.opendns.com 208.69.32.130 and the server is in San Francisco, CA. Q4: What's up with this? Are the news channels still as polluted as they were in 1999? Oh! Ya they are polluted with spam and pron like in those days. So far, so good. Believe my due diligence is as complete as possible. For now. I'm off to check out Mozilla TBird.. t-Bird is pretty good. I did not stick with it due to the fact the usage of Outlook in my work place.
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tnx FORC5. Just concerned the provider is braindead to Windows/Netscape-centric. DSinc At 18:51 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote: Eudora should work with your provider, they just do not support it but settings are settings in any email program AFAIK. Or at least I can not imagine it not working. Using Eudora 7.1.0.9. My only complaint is it is slow to load 1st thing in the morning for some reason. Rest of the day OK fp snip This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
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thanks for the tip give it a shot At 07:56 PM 10/11/2007, Wayne Johnson Poked the stick with: At 18:51 10-11-2007, FORC5 typed: My only complaint is it is slow to load 1st thing in the morning for some reason. Do you keep the big 3 emptied? I'm talking about In, Out Trash as they are all loaded into ram when Eudora starts. If you filter everything to other folders it helps quite a bit as I have a Rec'd Sent mailbox I empty the trash on exit. ---+-- I'm a geek that loves to tweak. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- That was a pointing device? My cat thought it was dinner.
