Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard
In theory, yes. In practice, regarding my own game of musical chairs with switching channels on the wifi, it doesn't make a lick of difference. And again, they work perfectly fine while both are active - to a point. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:07:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard Shouldn't make a difference though if they use a non-overlapping part of the spectrum? Like with wifi, channels 1,6,11 can all be maxing out at once and not interfere with each other. If you were using channels 1,2,3 they would interfere, as the spectrums overlap. This is at least my understanding :p Scott On Jun 12, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Hayes Elkins wrote: That's because they aren't downloading a stream of data at 3.5MB/s (that's megaBYTES) from a FIOS connection :) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is that accurate? Does the adesso really use that much of the spectrum? It's my understanding that 802.11b/g channels each use a small portion of the range. Couldn't you just change the wifi channel until you find a non-conflicting area? Or is that not possible? I've heard of problems with 2.4ghz phones and wifi for instance, but at my parents house where they have 2.4ghz phones, I've never been able to detect any interference.. Scott _ Enjoy 5 GB of free, password-protected online storage. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_062008 _ Enjoy 5 GB of free, password-protected online storage. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_062008
Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard
You never want to stray from Wifi cha #6 because the only viable ones are 1 11 from there and they don't work as well as 6 at all. As to DiNovo keyboards, AVOID AVOID AVOID, even if Logitech has fixed the various issues since the 1st gen they DID burn us 1st gen buyers since those had the worst key action worst software ever not too mention they never supported getting fixes to us. Personally I avoid ever buying Logitech, like Antec, on principle. --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 9:26 AM In theory, yes. In practice, regarding my own game of musical chairs with switching channels on the wifi, it doesn't make a lick of difference. And again, they work perfectly fine while both are active - to a point. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:07:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard Shouldn't make a difference though if they use a non-overlapping part of the spectrum? Like with wifi, channels 1,6,11 can all be maxing out at once and not interfere with each other. If you were using channels 1,2,3 they would interfere, as the spectrums overlap. This is at least my understanding :p Scott On Jun 12, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Hayes Elkins wrote: That's because they aren't downloading a stream of data at 3.5MB/s (that's megaBYTES) from a FIOS connection :) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is that accurate? Does the adesso really use that much of the spectrum? It's my understanding that 802.11b/g channels each use a small portion of the range. Couldn't you just change the wifi channel until you find a non-conflicting area? Or is that not possible? I've heard of problems with 2.4ghz phones and wifi for instance, but at my parents house where they have 2.4ghz phones, I've never been able to detect any interference.. Scott _ Enjoy 5 GB of free, password-protected online storage. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_062008 _ Enjoy 5 GB of free, password-protected online storage. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_062008
Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard
Looks like my options are pretty slim. On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 4:06 PM, j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You never want to stray from Wifi cha #6 because the only viable ones are 1 11 from there and they don't work as well as 6 at all. As to DiNovo keyboards, AVOID AVOID AVOID, even if Logitech has fixed the various issues since the 1st gen they DID burn us 1st gen buyers since those had the worst key action worst software ever not too mention they never supported getting fixes to us. Personally I avoid ever buying Logitech, like Antec, on principle. --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 9:26 AM In theory, yes. In practice, regarding my own game of musical chairs with switching channels on the wifi, it doesn't make a lick of difference. And again, they work perfectly fine while both are active - to a point. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:07:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard Shouldn't make a difference though if they use a non-overlapping part of the spectrum? Like with wifi, channels 1,6,11 can all be maxing out at once and not interfere with each other. If you were using channels 1,2,3 they would interfere, as the spectrums overlap. This is at least my understanding :p Scott On Jun 12, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Hayes Elkins wrote: That's because they aren't downloading a stream of data at 3.5MB/s (that's megaBYTES) from a FIOS connection :) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is that accurate? Does the adesso really use that much of the spectrum? It's my understanding that 802.11b/g channels each use a small portion of the range. Couldn't you just change the wifi channel until you find a non-conflicting area? Or is that not possible? I've heard of problems with 2.4ghz phones and wifi for instance, but at my parents house where they have 2.4ghz phones, I've never been able to detect any interference.. Scott _ Enjoy 5 GB of free, password-protected online storage. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_062008 _ Enjoy 5 GB of free, password-protected online storage. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_062008
Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard
Thanks for your feedback. This is rather disheartening though. I'm not planning on running network cable down to that room any time soon. 20 feet of keyboard cable isn't really enticing either. You know I would have thought that in this day and age a wireless keyboard and wireless network access would be able to co-exist with each other. BAH!! On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And to be clear - the same issue will affect the other adesso model, or any keyboard for that matter that uses 2.4Ghz RF From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:18:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard Yes. Profound interference when in heavy use because they share the same 2.4ghz band. The solution is to move to a 5ghz network if you have the hardware, and very few draft-N devices do, plus deal with the inherent signal issues of 5ghz. Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:16:44 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard The diNovo looks stylish but a bit out of my budget. The Adesso I mentioned is closer to what I can fit under the cap. As for that other adesso version, I'm trying to understand what sucks about it due to being on wifi? The HTPC I have setup is on my home's wireless network. Are you saying theres some sort of interference? _ It's easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live™ Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow _ It's easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live™ Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow
Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard
Hi, I tried to reply last night but haven't seen my message come in-- not sure if my email died, or what, sorry if this is a respost. -- Is that accurate? Does the adesso really use that much of the spectrum? It's my understanding that 802.11b/g channels each use a small portion of the range. Couldn't you just change the wifi channel until you find a non-conflicting area? Or is that not possible? I've heard of problems with 2.4ghz phones and wifi for instance, but at my parents house where they have 2.4ghz phones, I've never been able to detect any interference.. Scott On Jun 12, 2008, at 8:48 AM, GPL wrote: Thanks for your feedback. This is rather disheartening though. I'm not planning on running network cable down to that room any time soon. 20 feet of keyboard cable isn't really enticing either. You know I would have thought that in this day and age a wireless keyboard and wireless network access would be able to co-exist with each other. BAH!! On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And to be clear - the same issue will affect the other adesso model, or any keyboard for that matter that uses 2.4Ghz RF From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:18:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard Yes. Profound interference when in heavy use because they share the same 2.4ghz band. The solution is to move to a 5ghz network if you have the hardware, and very few draft-N devices do, plus deal with the inherent signal issues of 5ghz. Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:16:44 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard The diNovo looks stylish but a bit out of my budget. The Adesso I mentioned is closer to what I can fit under the cap. As for that other adesso version, I'm trying to understand what sucks about it due to being on wifi? The HTPC I have setup is on my home's wireless network. Are you saying theres some sort of interference? _ It's easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live™ Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow _ It's easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live™ Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow
Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard
You can always revert to a line of sight infrared KB. Usually they come with a reception extenstion. Or if you have the right environment (not too many walls), go 5Ghz on your wifi. Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:48:55 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard Thanks for your feedback. This is rather disheartening though. I'm not planning on running network cable down to that room any time soon. 20 feet of keyboard cable isn't really enticing either. You know I would have thought that in this day and age a wireless keyboard and wireless network access would be able to co-exist with each other. BAH!! On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Hayes Elkins wrote: And to be clear - the same issue will affect the other adesso model, or any keyboard for that matter that uses 2.4Ghz RF From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:18:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard Yes. Profound interference when in heavy use because they share the same 2.4ghz band. The solution is to move to a 5ghz network if you have the hardware, and very few draft-N devices do, plus deal with the inherent signal issues of 5ghz. Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:16:44 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard The diNovo looks stylish but a bit out of my budget. The Adesso I mentioned is closer to what I can fit under the cap. As for that other adesso version, I'm trying to understand what sucks about it due to being on wifi? The HTPC I have setup is on my home's wireless network. Are you saying theres some sort of interference? _ It's easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live™ Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow _ It's easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live™ Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow _ Search that pays you back! Introducing Live Search cashback. http://search.live.com/cashback/?pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=srchpaysyouback
Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard
That's because they aren't downloading a stream of data at 3.5MB/s (that's megaBYTES) from a FIOS connection :) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is that accurate? Does the adesso really use that much of the spectrum? It's my understanding that 802.11b/g channels each use a small portion of the range. Couldn't you just change the wifi channel until you find a non-conflicting area? Or is that not possible? I've heard of problems with 2.4ghz phones and wifi for instance, but at my parents house where they have 2.4ghz phones, I've never been able to detect any interference.. Scott _ Enjoy 5 GB of free, password-protected online storage. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_062008
Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard
Shouldn't make a difference though if they use a non-overlapping part of the spectrum? Like with wifi, channels 1,6,11 can all be maxing out at once and not interfere with each other. If you were using channels 1,2,3 they would interfere, as the spectrums overlap. This is at least my understanding :p Scott On Jun 12, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Hayes Elkins wrote: That's because they aren't downloading a stream of data at 3.5MB/s (that's megaBYTES) from a FIOS connection :) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is that accurate? Does the adesso really use that much of the spectrum? It's my understanding that 802.11b/g channels each use a small portion of the range. Couldn't you just change the wifi channel until you find a non-conflicting area? Or is that not possible? I've heard of problems with 2.4ghz phones and wifi for instance, but at my parents house where they have 2.4ghz phones, I've never been able to detect any interference.. Scott _ Enjoy 5 GB of free, password-protected online storage. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_062008
Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard
Might as well try to research the line of sight infrared KB option. Anyone using one of these in the environement I mentioned above? On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can always revert to a line of sight infrared KB. Usually they come with a reception extenstion. Or if you have the right environment (not too many walls), go 5Ghz on your wifi. Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:48:55 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard Thanks for your feedback. This is rather disheartening though. I'm not planning on running network cable down to that room any time soon. 20 feet of keyboard cable isn't really enticing either. You know I would have thought that in this day and age a wireless keyboard and wireless network access would be able to co-exist with each other. BAH!! On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Hayes Elkins wrote: And to be clear - the same issue will affect the other adesso model, or any keyboard for that matter that uses 2.4Ghz RF From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:18:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard Yes. Profound interference when in heavy use because they share the same 2.4ghz band. The solution is to move to a 5ghz network if you have the hardware, and very few draft-N devices do, plus deal with the inherent signal issues of 5ghz. Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:16:44 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard The diNovo looks stylish but a bit out of my budget. The Adesso I mentioned is closer to what I can fit under the cap. As for that other adesso version, I'm trying to understand what sucks about it due to being on wifi? The HTPC I have setup is on my home's wireless network. Are you saying theres some sort of interference? _ It's easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live™ Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow _ It's easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live™ Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow _ Search that pays you back! Introducing Live Search cashback. http://search.live.com/cashback/?pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=srchpaysyouback
Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard
Yes. Profound interference when in heavy use because they share the same 2.4ghz band. The solution is to move to a 5ghz network if you have the hardware, and very few draft-N devices do, plus deal with the inherent signal issues of 5ghz. Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:16:44 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard The diNovo looks stylish but a bit out of my budget. The Adesso I mentioned is closer to what I can fit under the cap. As for that other adesso version, I'm trying to understand what sucks about it due to being on wifi? The HTPC I have setup is on my home's wireless network. Are you saying theres some sort of interference? _ It’s easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live™ Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow
Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard
And to be clear - the same issue will affect the other adesso model, or any keyboard for that matter that uses 2.4Ghz RF From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:18:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard Yes. Profound interference when in heavy use because they share the same 2.4ghz band. The solution is to move to a 5ghz network if you have the hardware, and very few draft-N devices do, plus deal with the inherent signal issues of 5ghz. Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:16:44 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard The diNovo looks stylish but a bit out of my budget. The Adesso I mentioned is closer to what I can fit under the cap. As for that other adesso version, I'm trying to understand what sucks about it due to being on wifi? The HTPC I have setup is on my home's wireless network. Are you saying theres some sort of interference? _ It’s easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live™ Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow _ It’s easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live™ Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow
Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard
I have their other 2.4GHz combo http://www.adesso.com/products_detail.asp?productid=336 The 2.4Ghz RF range is great but here's a big warning: it SUCKS, just SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS if your htpc is on a wifi connection, especially when downstream is at its peak. I'm ready to revert to line of sight infrared. Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:15:39 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard Hi Everyone, I've been looking for a keyboard slash mouse unit for my family room. Since we recently went HDTV in that room I have connected a PC to it as well and need a keyboard with out wires. I saw the Adesso Wireless SlimTouch Keyboard 2.4Ghz and it looks like a really slick unit if not maybe a hair expensive. Either way I was wondering if anyone has used it or might have a recommendation on another wireless unit that has keyboard and mouse integrated into it. It needs to work atleast 15 or so feet away from where the PC/TV are which I think should not be a problem with the Adesso. Thanks for any suggestions or recommendations. George _ It’s easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live™ Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow
Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard
I just outfit my HTPC with a bluetooth Logitech diNovo Edge--KB with touchpad. Great range, built-in battery, looks great, and has a sturdy feel... Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GPL Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:16 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard Hi Everyone, I've been looking for a keyboard slash mouse unit for my family room. Since we recently went HDTV in that room I have connected a PC to it as well and need a keyboard with out wires. I saw the Adesso Wireless SlimTouch Keyboard 2.4Ghz and it looks like a really slick unit if not maybe a hair expensive. Either way I was wondering if anyone has used it or might have a recommendation on another wireless unit that has keyboard and mouse integrated into it. It needs to work atleast 15 or so feet away from where the PC/TV are which I think should not be a problem with the Adesso. Thanks for any suggestions or recommendations. George
Re: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard
The diNovo looks stylish but a bit out of my budget. The Adesso I mentioned is closer to what I can fit under the cap. As for that other adesso version, I'm trying to understand what sucks about it due to being on wifi? The HTPC I have setup is on my home's wireless network. Are you saying theres some sort of interference? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just outfit my HTPC with a bluetooth Logitech diNovo Edge--KB with touchpad. Great range, built-in battery, looks great, and has a sturdy feel... Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GPL Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:16 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Adesso Wireless Keyboard Hi Everyone, I've been looking for a keyboard slash mouse unit for my family room. Since we recently went HDTV in that room I have connected a PC to it as well and need a keyboard with out wires. I saw the Adesso Wireless SlimTouch Keyboard 2.4Ghz and it looks like a really slick unit if not maybe a hair expensive. Either way I was wondering if anyone has used it or might have a recommendation on another wireless unit that has keyboard and mouse integrated into it. It needs to work atleast 15 or so feet away from where the PC/TV are which I think should not be a problem with the Adesso. Thanks for any suggestions or recommendations. George