Re: [Histonet] HTL Certification

[Jay Lundgren via Histonet]

Make flashcards, all your esoteric fixatives with recipes, and all your
special stains with reagents and what they stain for.  Work them both sides
till you can get 100% consistently.   For example, so you can answer the
questions "What is the oxidation step in a GMS?" as well as  "Which of
these stains uses silver nitrate?"  There WILL be a question about which
fixative to use or not use with uric acid/gout.  There WILL be a question
about fire extinguisher types.

There you go, I just gave you two free ones.

I wouldn't even worry about the photomicrographs.  They're so lousy you end
up just guessing anyway.  You can miss all the photo questions and still
pass.

By the way, the convention when listing your credentials is to only list
your terminal degree, unless you want to point out some certification in
another field, like M.D., MBA, or MSN., J.D., or BSN, MPH.  Yours would be
B.S., HTL, (ASCP) CM.

Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL (ASCP)



On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 12:08 PM Rathborne, Toni via Histonet <
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> Hi Diana,
>
> We have had two students complete the program at University of North
> Dakota. Both passed their certification exam the first time. You can get
> more information from this link.
>
>  https://med.und.edu/histotechnology/admission-requirements.html
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> Best of luck finding a program that works for you!
>
> Toni
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> I was wondering if you guys that are so knowledgeable can give me guidance
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> and an outline on how to study, so preferably I would need like an online
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>
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> Thank you,
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Re: [Histonet] HTL Certification

[Rathborne, Toni via Histonet]

Hi Diana,

We have had two students complete the program at University of North Dakota. 
Both passed their certification exam the first time. You can get more 
information from this link.

 https://med.und.edu/histotechnology/admission-requirements.html

Best of luck finding a program that works for you!

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Good day all,


I have a question that hopefully I get some guidance on. I have an HT 
certification, but I wanted to try to study for the HTL certification, but it 
has been a very long time since I had to study for the boards therefore, I was 
wondering if you guys that are so knowledgeable can give me guidance on how to 
pursue my endeavor. I am a type of person that needs structure and an outline 
on how to study, so preferably I would need like an online school that can help 
me for the HTL.  Any recommendations?


Thank you,

Diana Martinez-Longoria

El Centro Regional Medical Center

Lead Histotechnician (ASCP)cm, B.S, A.S

Laboratory – Pathology Department
1415 Ross Ave | El Centro, CA  92243

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Re: [Histonet] HTL Career Path

[Teri Johnson via Histonet]

Hi Anna,

I really cannot beat what Tim has said in response to your concerns. He is spot 
on and I think his experience in some way mirrors my own (with the exception of 
industry experience).

My question to you, though, relates to your expectation. How quickly are you 
expecting to advance in your career, and is that expectation reasonable? Those 
of us who have been in this field for a long time knows it usually takes quite 
a while to learn and to prove yourself to an employer. It is possible for 
highly motivated and high producing staff members to rise to the top fairly 
quickly if there is opportunity. It may be more common, though, to find 
yourself highly motivated and highly productive and still in your current role 
for longer than you want due to lack of vacancies.

Honestly, I find the pay scale for HT/HTL to be quite good in most metropolitan 
areas and there are definitely opportunities out there to maximize your 
compensation provided you have a resume to support it. You've got to earn it, 
you've got to put in the work as Tim outlined. Learn everything you can, 
network, make yourself valuable, but never lose sight of the importance of 
teamwork and demonstrate that ability.

I don't think I would go back to school and expect it to reflect in a positive 
way financially if you decide to stay in Histotechnology. You will end up 
trying to pay off a student loan with not much added compensation for your 
degree since it really isn't required beyond a Bachelor's degree.

I do hope you remain in the field. Your current knowledge and enthusiasm for 
the discipline is a wonderful thing.

Best wishes,

Teri Johnson
Manager, Clinical Trial Testing
Genoptix, Inc., a Novartis company
BioPharma
1811 Aston Avenue
Carlsbad, CA  92008
USA

Phone +1 760 516 5954
tejohn...@genoptix.com
www.genoptix.com


-Original Message-

Anna, This is a great topic and you pretty much nailed it as far as getting 
into it "accidently." The fact is, most of us did. However, you can approach it 
a couple ways.

The big question is, how do you want to advance. Do you want to stay in the lab 
and be the overall lab expert, or do you want to eventually move to some kind 
of management role?  Either way, you need to take advantage of any opportunity 
that comes your way.

First, if you want to stay in one institution, for whatever reason, and it is 
large enough, or growing, then the path to take is to first be excellent at 
what you currently do, and second, take advantage of every single opportunity 
to learn something new, including taking on special projects, committees (ie, 
QA, safety, emergency planning, whatever comes along) in order to get to know 
as many people in the organization as possible and what opportunities exist in 
other areas. For instance, one person here was a med tech in the clin lab from 
many years, took on QA duties, worked on CAP and JC inspection readiness, 
participated in doing CAP inspections, and now is the QA person for the entire 
laboratory and POC labs - which is a huge job in our institution (dozens of lab 
sites). So, essentially finding ways to move up. You could also do that in a 
management route with the idea that you learn management that can be applied to 
any department, not just histology or pathology. That would al
 low you to work anywhere.

The other path is to move to other institutions as you outgrow your job at your 
current workplace. If your institution is small you may or may not be able to 
move up. A lot of times It depends more on others moving up or out rather than 
your own ambitions. In that case keep your options open for other opportunities 
that come up. Generally, if you move to a new job you should also be moving up 
at least to the next higher level, otherwise your pay will go down rather than 
up (no place will bring you in at the high pay rate you reached after 10 years 
in your current job - they want to bring you on in the middle of their pay 
range). That means you need to take advantage of learning the next level of 
more advanced skills in any job you have. Never stick to your job description - 
that is just a suggestion and should be considered the floor level of what you 
should do. No manger is ever going to ask you to stop volunteering to do more!

Additionally, look for opportunities to apply current knowledge in new areas, 
whether research, government labs, including working for a vendor. You would be 
amazed at how much you can learn in that venue that will help you in all other 
aspects of your work (product development, marketing, sales, customer 
relations, technical support, etc).

In short, learn everything you can about your field, attend meetings, even if 
on your own dime, get involved in management of the lab, take on special 
projects, move around if necessary to gain new experience and perspective.

And have some fun along the way!


Tim Morken
Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular 

RE: [Histonet] HTL exam

[Joelle Weaver]

Agree with your points and book recommendations. I do remember some slide ID on 
mine. Also there are more taxonomy II & III and operations on the HTL, which 
warrants a slightly different study approach, but completely acheivable. 


Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC


  

 
> From: jrobin...@pathology-associates.com
> To: scby...@yahoo.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 19:08:47 +0000
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] HTL exam
> CC: 
> 
> I used the NSH booklets on the various Histology subjects.  I don't know 
> about their current availability- I think they were on a CD now but I haven't 
> checked lately.  I learned a lot from the booklets as they not only give the 
> correct answer they also described why the other answers were wrong along 
> with some background pertaining to related subjects.  With the test being 
> online now I don't know how important the color plates of the various special 
> stains are but I found it extremely helpful to know all of the stains by 
> sight backwards and forwards- even stains that we did not run in our lab as 
> there were a lot of questions that would refer to different methods of 
> staining for the same structure or organism, etc.  I used Sheehan and 
> Bancroft as my texts.  Bancroft is British so there is a different slant to 
> his writing that I find interesting.  I have read Carson's but I do not feel 
> it has enough background information.  Lee Luna's last book has great color 
> plates but the organization is poor and it can be hard to find things- I 
> think someone finished it up after he passed away.
> 
> Jeff Robinson HT, HTL, Senior Histotechnologist, Sierra Pathology Lab, 
> Clovis, CA.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 10:43 AM
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> 
> 
> Hi all. Was just wondering if anyone has just taken the HTL exam. I passed 
> the HT with just reading an older Frieda Carson book.  Can someone give me 
> some advice on books that really helped them? Thanks!
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> >   2. Cracking paraffin blocks (Wheelock, Timothy R.)
> >   3. RE: Cheap Disposable Blades for Facing In (Bea DeBrosse-Serra)
> >   4. Re: Cracking paraffin blocks (Hans B Snyder)
> >   5. Amyloid by Congo Red (Jeffrey Robinson)
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> > hours and then transferred to 70% ETOH. This worked beautifully preserving 
> > all eye components. Good luck and don't forget to check the Histonet 
> > archives where I know rodent eyes have been discussed in the past.
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> > Christie Gowan HT (ASCP)
> > 
> > Department of Dermatology
> > 4037 NW 86th Terrace, 4th Fl
> > Mohs Laboratory
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> > Phone: 352 594-1529
> > 
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> > From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
> > [histon

RE: [Histonet] HTL exam

[Jeffrey Robinson]

I used the NSH booklets on the various Histology subjects.  I don't know about 
their current availability- I think they were on a CD now but I haven't checked 
lately.  I learned a lot from the booklets as they not only give the correct 
answer they also described why the other answers were wrong along with some 
background pertaining to related subjects.  With the test being online now I 
don't know how important the color plates of the various special stains are but 
I found it extremely helpful to know all of the stains by sight backwards and 
forwards- even stains that we did not run in our lab as there were a lot of 
questions that would refer to different methods of staining for the same 
structure or organism, etc.  I used Sheehan and Bancroft as my texts.  Bancroft 
is British so there is a different slant to his writing that I find 
interesting.  I have read Carson's but I do not feel it has enough background 
information.  Lee Luna's last book has great color plates but the organization 
is poor and it can be hard to find things- I think someone finished it up after 
he passed away.

Jeff Robinson HT, HTL, Senior Histotechnologist, Sierra Pathology Lab, Clovis, 
CA.

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Morissette
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 10:43 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] HTL exam


Hi all. Was just wondering if anyone has just taken the HTL exam. I passed the 
HT with just reading an older Frieda Carson book.  Can someone give me some 
advice on books that really helped them? Thanks!
Sent from my iPhone

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>   3. RE: Cheap Disposable Blades for Facing In (Bea DeBrosse-Serra)
>   4. Re: Cracking paraffin blocks (Hans B Snyder)
>   5. Amyloid by Congo Red (Jeffrey Robinson)
>   6. Thermo  IHC (Cheri Miller)
>   7. Problem  with cracked paraffin blocks (Wheelock, Timothy R.)
>   8. Re: Amyloid by Congo Red (Michael Ann Jones)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 16:23:06 +
> From: "Gowan,Christie C" 
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] rodent eye
> To: Casie Phillips ,
>"histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi Casie,
> Hope by now you have rec'd some good tips on rodent eye prep. The only thing 
> I have to offer is that we always used Davidson's fixative for 24 hours and 
> then transferred to 70% ETOH. This worked beautifully preserving all eye 
> components. Good luck and don't forget to check the Histonet archives where I 
> know rodent eyes have been discussed in the past.
> 
> Christie Gowan HT (ASCP)
> 
> Department of Dermatology
> 4037 NW 86th Terrace, 4th Fl
> Mohs Laboratory
> Gainesville, FL 32606
> Phone: 352 594-1529
> 
> 
> 
> From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
> [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Casie 
> Phillips [casie4...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 2:53 PM
> To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] rodent eye
> 
> Good afternoon,
> 
> I am currently working with Lewis rats performing corneal alkali 
> injuries at varying strengths. Is there someone there that has prior 
> experience working with a rat eye and would be willing to share 
> information on the most effective ways to preserve, fix and cut the cornea 
> sample.
> 
> We are interested in using the cornea without using the whole globe if 
> possible. For now we will be using basic H&E staining with a 
> possibility of immunohistochemistry at a later time. The main outcome 
> we are looking for is to find the presence of neutrophils in the 
> cornea. A second objective is to look for any damaged or newly reconstructed 
> tissue.
> 
> I would greatly appreciate any advice relating to the type of paraffin 
> used, the ideal length of time to save the tissue and any assistance 
> you can suggest for completing this process  successfully.
> 
> Thank you for your time. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Casie Phillips
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Re: [Histonet] HTL wage range

[Jay Lundgren]

It's not so much about the money.  It's more about the speedboats and
supermodels.  http://www.ascp.org/PDF/Advocacy/2012-Vacancy-Survey.pdf

Sincerely,

Jay A. Lundgren,  M.S., HTL, (ASCP)


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Gast, Betty L  wrote:

> Hi, I was wondering if anyone would share your salary range for a new HTL
> grad. I have the ASCP 2013 survey and wanted to compare. Thanks!
>
>
>
> Betty Gast HT(ASCP)
>
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>
> Histology Facilitator
>
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Re: [Histonet] HTL wage range

[Rene J Buesa]

Salaries vary wildly and depend on the area you are working. Having said that 
my advise is always that you should decide first how much would you need for 
your living expenses and make that amount your bottom salary and then apply for 
a position and try to obtain that amount REGARDLESS of what they are offering 
and the market place is.
You have to be "aggressive" in your pursue of a salary that will allow you to 
live as you desire. Remember that working for an amount of money that will let 
you "just get by" is one of the most frustrating experiences there are.
Having said that under separate cover I am forwarding you an article I wrote on 
the subject.
René J.   


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Hi, I was wondering if anyone would share your salary range for a new HTL grad. 
I have the ASCP 2013 survey and wanted to compare. Thanks!



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betty.g...@hshs.org

Histology Facilitator

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Re: [Histonet] HTL Online Courses?

[Ronda Mire]

IUPUI has a fantastic program.

Ronda Mire
On Jun 3, 2014, at 1:24 PM, "Wineman, Terra"  wrote:

> Hartford Community College in Maryland has an online course.  I would also 
> look at Indiana University.
> 
> Terra Wineman, HTL (ASCP)CM
> Research Biologist, Nutrional Physiology
> 636-926-7476 phone
> terra.wine...@novusint.com
> 
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> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 12:18 PM
> To: 'histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
> Subject: [Histonet] HTL Online Courses?
> 
> Hi all!
> 
> I have been doing massive research on this for past several days but no solid 
> leads.  I am wondering about HT/HTL Histology online courses... I live in St. 
> Louis Missouri and they don't offer any histology courses around here - only 
> out of states.  I cannot relocate or do 1-2 years program out of state due to 
> my full-time job and family reason.
> 
> Do anyone know any good Histology online courses that I can take without 
> conflicting with my job?
> 
> Greatly appericated!  Thanks!
> 
> Denise Smith
> 
> smit...@kids.wustl.edu
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RE: [Histonet] HTL

[Campbell, Tasha M.]

Definitely the booklets from NSH.  Probably the most important, I think.

 
 
 
Tasha Campbell, B.S.,HTL(ASCP)
Frederick Gastroenterology Associates
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Weems, Joyce K.
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:26 AM
To: 'mad...@verizon.net'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HTL

Also the booklets from NSH ..

Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843-7376 Phone
678-843-7831 Fax
joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org



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To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] HTL


   &nb=;WHen  I  took  mine  i did both parts. for the written carson
   cover  to cover=d the thick bancroft and stevens(sp?) 2 times cover
   to cover.



   Nick(Rocky) Madar= HT/HTL(ASCP)QIHC
   Joni Madary, PhD(in life)

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   On 05/20/14, hist=et-requ...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu wrote:




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   3. pos=ive control indoleamine 2-3 dioxygenase
   (Pathology-Histology S= Supervisor)
   4.  immunohistochemisty  coding (Michael LaFriniere) 5. antibody vials
   (Clare Thornton)
   6. RE: antibody vials (Mu=hy, Valerie)
   7. HELP- Cryosectioning FAT! (Balasubbramanian, Daks=apriya)
   8. new processor (anita)
   9. RE: antibody vials (A=e Murvosh)
   10. Re: HELP- Cryosectioning FAT! (Balasubbramanian, Da=hnapriya)
   11. Re: HELP- Cryosectioning FAT! (Balasubbramanian, Dak=napriya)
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   Message: 1
   Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 1=32:36 -0500
   From: Cecy Stan <[5]cecysta...@gmail.com>
   Subject: [Histonet] HTL certification
   To: [6]histone=lists.utsouthwestern.edu
   Message-ID:

   Subject: RE: [Histonet] HTL ce=ification
   To: Cecy Stan <[9]cecysta...@gmail.com>,
   =9"[10]histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
<[11]histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
   Me=age-ID: <[12]1400521609188.54...@gmu.edu>
   Content-=pe: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
   Hi C.A.,
   I  don't have the HT or HTL, but from my college teaching experiencein  
histology  and  histotechniques, I just wanted to caution you that
   memoriz=g  is not what you should be doing. You need to understand
   concepts, so th= when you need to troubleshoot problems you will be
   able to think through=ings, rule some things out, and make sense of
   the situation. I see this =l the time with my students, they forget
   things  they  memorize,  but then t=y finally understand things and
   can  figure  things  out.  One  of  the new tea=ing tools is having
   students  prepare  "concept maps," to see the=lationships of topics
   and  terms,  and  these  linkages  will help you in the=ng run. For
   histology examples, see:
   [13]http://www.biologycorner.com/anatomy/tissues/tissue_conce   
pt_map_samples.html
   I don't know of any concept maps for his=technology on the web, but
   I am going to add this to my course next year!   Esther
   Esther C. Peters, Ph.D.
   Assistant Profes=r
   Environmental Science & Policy
   George Mason University
   4400 University Drive, MS 5F2
   Fairfax, VA 22030-
   Office: D=id King Hall, Room 3050
   Phone: 703-993-3462
   Fax: 703-993-1066e-mail: [14]epete...@gmu.edu
   [15]https://bluprd0511.outlook.com/owa/redir.aspx?C   
=ET8XhF-xC0ytBErXdaN3U3lGqWmZNdAI_N-4nsEb0IjgUpeIoQa7EcVMJMh2oePPPKr
   rDjhw=k.&URL=http%3a%2f%2

RE: [Histonet] HTL

[Weems, Joyce K.]

My story - I finished my degree late in my career and just wanted to take the 
registry to see how it was -  then I was going to know how to study. I didn't 
spend much time studying - just brushing up as I took it soon after I graduated 
and had been doing thesis type reports, etc. I got to the exam - I had to go 
100 mi to Knoxville from Kingsport, TN  - and they had scheduled me for the 
wrong day and had all the nursing students there taking their Boards. They told 
me I could stay and wait till a computer was available - I did. I had taken  
those books with me, and reviewed as I sat there -  learned all kinds of things 
I used on the test! I passed and didn't have to take it again. It was a 
miracle!! j

Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843-7376 Phone
678-843-7831 Fax
joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org



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-Original Message-
From: Campbell, Tasha M. [mailto:tmcampb...@fmh.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:48 AM
To: Weems, Joyce K.; mad...@verizon.net; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HTL

Definitely the booklets from NSH.  Probably the most important, I think.

 
 
 
Tasha Campbell, B.S.,HTL(ASCP)
Frederick Gastroenterology Associates
310 W. 9th St.
Frederick, MD 21701
301-695-6800 ext. 144 (w)
304-685-9307 (c)

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Weems, Joyce K.
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:26 AM
To: 'mad...@verizon.net'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HTL

Also the booklets from NSH ..

Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843-7376 Phone
678-843-7831 Fax
joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org



www.saintjosephsatlanta.org
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of 
mad...@verizon.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:54 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] HTL


   &nb=;WHen  I  took  mine  i did both parts. for the written carson
   cover  to cover=d the thick bancroft and stevens(sp?) 2 times cover
   to cover.



   Nick(Rocky) Madar= HT/HTL(ASCP)QIHC
   Joni Madary, PhD(in life)

   <=v style="border-top:1px solid #bcbcbc;margin:5px 0px;">

   On 05/20/14, hist=et-requ...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu wrote:




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   Today's Topics:
   1. HTL certification (C y Stan)
   2. RE: HTL certification (Esther C Peters)
   3. pos=ive control indoleamine 2-3 dioxygenase
   (Pathology-Histology S= Supervisor)
   4.  immunohistochemisty  coding (Michael LaFriniere) 5. antibody vials
   (Clare Thornton)
   6. RE: antibody vials (Mu=hy, Valerie)
   7. HELP- Cryosectioning FAT! (Balasubbramanian, Daks=apriya)
   8. new processor (anita)
   9. RE: antibody vials (A=e Murvosh)
   10. Re: HELP- Cryosectioning FAT! (Balasubbramanian, Da=hnapriya)
   11. Re: HELP- Cryosectioning FAT! (Balasubbramanian, Dak=napriya)
   ---   ---
   Message: 1
   Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 1=32:36 -0500
   From: Cecy Stan <[5]cecysta...@gmail.com>
   Subject: [Histonet] HTL certification
   To: [6]histone=lists.utsouthwestern.edu
   Message-ID:

   Subject: RE: [Histonet] HTL ce=ification
   To: Cecy Stan <[9]cecysta...@gmail.com>,
   =9"[10]histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
<[11]histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu&

RE: [Histonet] HTL

[Weems, Joyce K.]

Also the booklets from NSH ..

Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843-7376 Phone
678-843-7831 Fax
joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org



www.saintjosephsatlanta.org
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Atlanta, GA 30342

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-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of 
mad...@verizon.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:54 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] HTL


   &nb=;WHen  I  took  mine  i did both parts. for the written carson
   cover  to cover=d the thick bancroft and stevens(sp?) 2 times cover
   to cover.



   Nick(Rocky) Madar= HT/HTL(ASCP)QIHC
   Joni Madary, PhD(in life)

   <=v style="border-top:1px solid #bcbcbc;margin:5px 0px;">

   On 05/20/14, hist=et-requ...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu wrote:




   Send Histonet =iling list submissions to
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   When replying, please edit your Subject line = it is more specific
   than "Re: Contents of Histonet digest...&q=t;
   Today's Topics:
   1. HTL certification (C�y Stan)
   2. RE: HTL certification (Esther C Peters)
   3. pos=ive control indoleamine 2-3 dioxygenase
   (Pathology-Histology S= Supervisor)
   4.  immunohistochemisty  coding (Michael LaFriniere) 5. antibody vials
   (Clare Thornton)
   6. RE: antibody vials (Mu=hy, Valerie)
   7. HELP- Cryosectioning FAT! (Balasubbramanian, Daks=apriya)
   8. new processor (anita)
   9. RE: antibody vials (A=e Murvosh)
   10. Re: HELP- Cryosectioning FAT! (Balasubbramanian, Da=hnapriya)
   11. Re: HELP- Cryosectioning FAT! (Balasubbramanian, Dak=napriya)
   ---   ---
   Message: 1
   Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 1=32:36 -0500
   From: Cecy Stan <[5]cecysta...@gmail.com>
   Subject: [Histonet] HTL certification
   To: [6]histone=lists.utsouthwestern.edu
   Message-ID:

   Subject: RE: [Histonet] HTL ce=ification
   To: Cecy Stan <[9]cecysta...@gmail.com>,
   =9"[10]histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
<[11]histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
   Me=age-ID: <[12]1400521609188.54...@gmu.edu>
   Content-=pe: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
   Hi C.A.,
   I  don't have the HT or HTL, but from my college teaching experiencein  
histology  and  histotechniques, I just wanted to caution you that
   memoriz=g  is not what you should be doing. You need to understand
   concepts, so th= when you need to troubleshoot problems you will be
   able to think through=ings, rule some things out, and make sense of
   the situation. I see this =l the time with my students, they forget
   things  they  memorize,  but then t=y finally understand things and
   can  figure  things  out.  One  of  the new tea=ing tools is having
   students  prepare  "concept maps," to see the=lationships of topics
   and  terms,  and  these  linkages  will help you in the=ng run. For
   histology examples, see:
   [13]http://www.biologycorner.com/anatomy/tissues/tissue_conce   
pt_map_samples.html
   I don't know of any concept maps for his=technology on the web, but
   I am going to add this to my course next year!   Esther
   Esther C. Peters, Ph.D.
   Assistant Profes=r
   Environmental Science & Policy
   George Mason University
   4400 University Drive, MS 5F2
   Fairfax, VA 22030-
   Office: D=id King Hall, Room 3050
   Phone: 703-993-3462
   Fax: 703-993-1066e-mail: [14]epete...@gmu.edu
   [15]https://bluprd0511.outlook.com/owa/redir.aspx?C   
=ET8XhF-xC0ytBErXdaN3U3lGqWmZNdAI_N-4nsEb0IjgUpeIoQa7EcVMJMh2oePPPKr
   rDjhw=k.&URL=http%3a%2f%2fesp.gmu.edu
   __=
   From: [16]histonet-bo=c...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu <[17]histonet-b   
oun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu>  on  behalf  of  Cecy  Stan <[18]cec   
ysta...@gmail.com>
   Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 1:32 PM
   To: =9]histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
   Subject: [Hist=et] HTL certification
   Hello everyone,
   I'm starting = prepare for my HTL certification (I am very nervous
   and anxious but=so very excited about this decision to go for it).
   I

RE: [Histonet] HTL certification

[Esther C Peters]

Hi C.A.,

I don't have the HT or HTL, but from my college teaching experience in 
histology and histotechniques, I just wanted to caution you that memorizing is 
not what you should be doing. You need to understand concepts, so that when you 
need to troubleshoot problems you will be able to think through things, rule 
some things out, and make sense of the situation. I see this all the time with 
my students, they forget things they memorize, but then they finally understand 
things and can figure things out. One of the new teaching tools is having 
students prepare "concept maps," to see the relationships of topics and terms, 
and these linkages will help you in the long run. For histology examples, see: 
http://www.biologycorner.com/anatomy/tissues/tissue_concept_map_samples.html

I don't know of any concept maps for histotechnology on the web, but I am going 
to add this to my course next year!

Esther

Esther C. Peters, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Environmental Science & Policy
George Mason University
4400 University Drive, MS 5F2
Fairfax, VA 22030-
Office: David King Hall, Room 3050
Phone: 703-993-3462
Fax: 703-993-1066
e-mail: epete...@gmu.edu
https://bluprd0511.outlook.com/owa/redir.aspx?C=ET8XhF-xC0ytBErXdaN3U3lGqWmZNdAI_N-4nsEb0IjgUpeIoQa7EcVMJMh2oePPPKrrDjhwOvk.&URL=http%3a%2f%2fesp.gmu.edu



From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
 on behalf of Cecy Stan 

Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 1:32 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] HTL certification

Hello everyone,

I'm starting to prepare for my HTL certification (I am very nervous
and anxious but also very excited about this decision to go for it).

I was just curious to know how you guys prepared for it, and how long it
took for you to prepare before taking the test. Will 6 months preparation
be enough? (I know that may depend on the individual; it's just that I
had my Masters over 10 years ago and I haven't studied this much since
then).

I have Freida L. Carson's 3rd Edition book -- quite daunting to memorize --
but the outline ASCP  has provided for study seems to be helpful. Do you
have any other book/study aid suggestions?

Thank you in advance for your input and advice!
C.A.
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RE: [Histonet] HTL / CG

[joelle weaver]

Mark
Sounds like I will be in similar circumstance soon. I am not a molecular person 
and I am not certified in molecular OR cytogenetics. Just HTL/QIHC, I do have 
degrees but it never made that much difference really so far. I have been 
trained in FISH and FISH enumeration (barely- just starting).  I do the IHC and 
ISH, routine histology,  specials, training, hiring, SOP writing, validation, 
purchasing, CAP stuff,  etc. I am a bench Histotechnologist only. Believe me, 
all they ever say to me is that they wish I knew more cytogenetics/FISH, flow 
cytometry and/or PCR. So seems to me, that whatever you know/do outside 
histology DOES in fact put you in higher demand.  Bravo to you. Sure you don't 
want to come and help me out? 




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:55:28 -0700
Subject: Re: [Histonet] HTL / CG
From: marktara...@gmail.com
To: joellewea...@hotmail.com

haha I hope that is true.  I'm the de facto lead tech in my department and I'm 
trying to get everyone up to speed on cutting and FISH pretreatment/scoring.  
Its going pretty well.  I think it's VERY helpful to have someone who can move 
between both areas.  Histology asked me to cut the molecular orders today since 
they're short-handed.  I love helping out in histology and IHC.  

If the pay was right I would move about anywhere but I don't know that I'm 
exactly what you're looking for.  I don't have my BA/BS and am not certified in 
molecular.  I also don't have experience in conventional cytogenetics 
(g-banding).  I'm also not the best PCR tech although I help out in that area 
too.

Mark

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:04 PM, joelle weaver  wrote:




That is what they want, but they also want a BA/BS and prefer certification. 
Yes, I had a feeling it is pretty rare. You must be in HIGH demand. Do you 
perform manually? have a scanner? do the slide analysis and scoring? 






Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:41:24 -0700
Subject: Re: [Histonet] HTL / CG
From: marktara...@gmail.com

To: joellewea...@hotmail.com

I'm not certified as a CG(ASCP) but I do FISH all day long on tissue and cell 
based preps.  I would say it's pretty uncommon to find someone who has a 
molecular and histology background.  



On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:35 AM, joelle weaver  
wrote:


 Hello fellow histology netters

I have been asked by my employer to search for and retain an individual who 
possesses an HTL (ASCP) certification, but who also has a CG (ASCP) 
certification ( or at least have solid experience in the arena of FISH & 
cytogenetics).  I have not personally come across anyone like that in my own 
personal, mostly clinical histology career. Perhaps it is more common in 
research?





Can anyone offer an opinion or insight into how common the above combination of 
education, training and certification(s) may be?

I tried to contact the BOR/BOC for a non-identified statistic on that, but have 
not gotten a reply.

Appreciate any assistance.









Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC



> From: mckenzie.em...@mhsil.com

> To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu

> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 19:31:20 -0500

> Subject: [Histonet] Desperately seeking information!!!

>

> Hello all,

> A few weeks ago I sent out an information seeking email regarding IHC 
> turnaround time. I did not get much in the way of responses. I figured there 
> was not enough information provided to answer the general questions I was 
> asking. I am having trouble obtaining an national average for IHC turnaround 
> time.



> I am wondering if all you fellow histoneters out there would be willing to 
> give me some info so I can see were we stand in comparison to facilities of 
> similar size. The facility I work at turns out anywhere from 90-150 IHC 
> stained slides daily. We have an average of 160 cases with around 700 H&E 
> stained slides daily. I have listed a few questions below, if any of you 
> would be so kind as to take the time to answer them it would be greatly 
> appreciated.



>

> What is the rough estimate of cases and initial H&E stained slides that are 
> turned out daily?

>

> Roughly, how many IHC stained slides do you turn out in a day?

>

> On average, what is your IHC turnaround time?

>

> What tissues are you working with (general surgical, dermatology's, research 
> etc)?

>

> How many techs do you have that can perform IHC staining?

>

> Who is your instrumentation through?

>

> At the end of the day/run, is there a stain log printed?

>

> If so, who signs off on the positive/negative?

>

> If there are any other processes/procedures you feel are imperative to your 
> IHC turnaround time please feel free to comment or offer suggestions.

>

> Thank you for taking the time to help us to

RE: [Histonet] HTL / CG

[Morken, Timothy]

Joelle, I think you will have a very hard time finding someone with both, 
especially dual ASCP certification. I've met or hear of anyone with dual 
certification, or even working in both. It may be the best you will find is 
someone who has certification in one and some practical experience in the 
other. Or someone willing to cross-train. 

Good luck!


Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies
Department of Pathology
UC San Francisco Medical Center



-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of joelle weaver
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:35 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] HTL / CG

 Hello fellow histology netters
I have been asked by my employer to search for and retain an individual who 
possesses an HTL (ASCP) certification, but who also has a CG (ASCP) 
certification ( or at least have solid experience in the arena of FISH & 
cytogenetics).  I have not personally come across anyone like that in my own 
personal, mostly clinical histology career. Perhaps it is more common in 
research?
 
Can anyone offer an opinion or insight into how common the above combination of 
education, training and certification(s) may be?
I tried to contact the BOR/BOC for a non-identified statistic on that, but have 
not gotten a reply.
Appreciate any assistance.
 



Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
> From: mckenzie.em...@mhsil.com
> To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 19:31:20 -0500
> Subject: [Histonet] Desperately seeking information!!!
> 
> Hello all,
> A few weeks ago I sent out an information seeking email regarding IHC 
> turnaround time. I did not get much in the way of responses. I figured there 
> was not enough information provided to answer the general questions I was 
> asking. I am having trouble obtaining an national average for IHC turnaround 
> time.
> I am wondering if all you fellow histoneters out there would be willing to 
> give me some info so I can see were we stand in comparison to facilities of 
> similar size. The facility I work at turns out anywhere from 90-150 IHC 
> stained slides daily. We have an average of 160 cases with around 700 H&E 
> stained slides daily. I have listed a few questions below, if any of you 
> would be so kind as to take the time to answer them it would be greatly 
> appreciated.
> 
> What is the rough estimate of cases and initial H&E stained slides that are 
> turned out daily?
> 
> Roughly, how many IHC stained slides do you turn out in a day?
> 
> On average, what is your IHC turnaround time?
> 
> What tissues are you working with (general surgical, dermatology's, research 
> etc)?
> 
> How many techs do you have that can perform IHC staining?
> 
> Who is your instrumentation through?
> 
> At the end of the day/run, is there a stain log printed?
> 
> If so, who signs off on the positive/negative?
> 
> If there are any other processes/procedures you feel are imperative to your 
> IHC turnaround time please feel free to comment or offer suggestions.
> 
> Thank you for taking the time to help us to improve our processes. If you 
> have any questions or concerns please let me know.
> Again, thank you for your help,
> 
> 
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RE: [Histonet] HTL / CG

[joelle weaver]

Thank you for the information and insight. You are indeed multi-talented. 
Sounds like whatever direction you go, you will be successful. I am not 
expecting to find such a combination as HTL/CG, with extensive experience 
easily. I just wanted to have some numbers, opinions,  and information to 
return if it takes a long while- and some kind of explanation for being 
empty-handed when them come asking.
 




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
> From: taylor.cliff...@va.gov
> To: joellewea...@hotmail.com
> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:22:34 -0400
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] HTL / CG
> 
> I would say pretty uncommon! 
> 
> I graduated with my Bachelor's in Agricultural Biotechnology and as a side 
> bar did my AAS in Histotechnology so my current supervisor was incredibly 
> pleased with the fact that I had a solid background in both biomolecular 
> science and current biotechnology techniques as well as the 
> histology/histotechnology background. He's the PI of a neuropathology lab 
> where he has done basic and advanced immunohistochemistry and various 
> biomolecular testing for 40+ years and he said I was the first HT to also 
> have the biotechnology background.
> 
> I graduated from SUNY Cobleskill where Dr. Colony has been the program 
> director for a number of years and I was also her first student to do both 
> programs (Benefitted the program greatly to have a student tutor the 
> following year on campus since most students finish their AAS and are gone). 
> I have looked into continuing my education for the CG  certification but I'm 
> still getting my foot in the door here at the research lab and studying for 
> GRE's for entrance into either a PhD or DVM program so I don't want to add 
> any more to my plate at the moment!
> 
> Good luck on your search!!
> 
> 
> Taylor CM Clifford
> Research Associate
> Albany Research Institute
> 113 Holland Avenue
> Albany, NY 12208
> 518-626-5664
> taylor.cliff...@va.gov
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
> [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of joelle weaver
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:35 PM
> To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] HTL / CG
> 
>  Hello fellow histology netters
> I have been asked by my employer to search for and retain an individual who 
> possesses an HTL (ASCP) certification, but who also has a CG (ASCP) 
> certification ( or at least have solid experience in the arena of FISH & 
> cytogenetics).  I have not personally come across anyone like that in my own 
> personal, mostly clinical histology career. Perhaps it is more common in 
> research?
>  
> Can anyone offer an opinion or insight into how common the above combination 
> of education, training and certification(s) may be?
> I tried to contact the BOR/BOC for a non-identified statistic on that, but 
> have not gotten a reply.
> Appreciate any assistance.
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
>  
> > From: mckenzie.em...@mhsil.com
> > To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 19:31:20 -0500
> > Subject: [Histonet] Desperately seeking information!!!
> > 
> > Hello all,
> > A few weeks ago I sent out an information seeking email regarding IHC 
> > turnaround time. I did not get much in the way of responses. I figured 
> > there was not enough information provided to answer the general questions I 
> > was asking. I am having trouble obtaining an national average for IHC 
> > turnaround time.
> > I am wondering if all you fellow histoneters out there would be willing to 
> > give me some info so I can see were we stand in comparison to facilities of 
> > similar size. The facility I work at turns out anywhere from 90-150 IHC 
> > stained slides daily. We have an average of 160 cases with around 700 H&E 
> > stained slides daily. I have listed a few questions below, if any of you 
> > would be so kind as to take the time to answer them it would be greatly 
> > appreciated.
> > 
> > What is the rough estimate of cases and initial H&E stained slides that are 
> > turned out daily?
> > 
> > Roughly, how many IHC stained slides do you turn out in a day?
> > 
> > On average, what is your IHC turnaround time?
> > 
> > What tissues are you working with (general surgical, dermatology's, 
> > research etc)?
> > 
> > How many techs do you have that can perform IHC staining?
> > 
> > Who is your instrumentation through?
> > 
> > At the end of the day/run, is there a stain log printed?
> > 
> > If so, who si

Re: [Histonet] HTL exam

[Carl]

I did the BOR Study guide Second Edition and passed 4 years ago.

Carl Ryan Nituda, HTL(ASCP) QIHC
Pathology Sciences Medical


Sent from my iPhone

On May 22, 2012, at 8:21, Amanda Phipps  wrote:

> Heather,
> 
> I took the exam last year and used the ASCP guidelines along with the 
> Carson/Hladik (3rd edition) text, the Carson/Hladik Histodeck flash cards, 
> and NSH practice question booklets. I am not sure how old the NSH booklets 
> are because another tech (thankfully!) let me borrow them, but they were 
> extremely helpful.
> The HistoDeck cards were nice for studying, however the quality of HistoDeck 
> pictures are *much* better than those of the exam.
> 
> Here is a link to some study materials from NSH
> 
> http://www.nsh.org/content/certification-exam-study-aids
> 
> Goodluck!!!
> 
> Amanda Phipps, HTL (ASCP)cm
> Histotechnologist
> Licking Memorial Hospital
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
> [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Heather 
> [hcaouett...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 11:12 PM
> To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] HTL exam
> 
> Hi,
> I am taking the HTL exam in about three months and would really appreciate 
> any guidance that anyone has, study tips, etc. I have already downloaded the 
> ASCP information on the test.
> Thanks!
> -Heather
> 
> 
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RE: [Histonet] HTL exam

[Amanda Phipps]

Heather,

I took the exam last year and used the ASCP guidelines along with the 
Carson/Hladik (3rd edition) text, the Carson/Hladik Histodeck flash cards, and 
NSH practice question booklets. I am not sure how old the NSH booklets are 
because another tech (thankfully!) let me borrow them, but they were extremely 
helpful.
The HistoDeck cards were nice for studying, however the quality of HistoDeck 
pictures are *much* better than those of the exam.

Here is a link to some study materials from NSH

http://www.nsh.org/content/certification-exam-study-aids

Goodluck!!!

Amanda Phipps, HTL (ASCP)cm
Histotechnologist
Licking Memorial Hospital





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[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Heather 
[hcaouett...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 11:12 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] HTL exam

Hi,
I am taking the HTL exam in about three months and would really appreciate any 
guidance that anyone has, study tips, etc. I have already downloaded the ASCP 
information on the test.
Thanks!
-Heather



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Re: [Histonet] HTL exam

[Eric Eades]

René is correct.  IHC stains are named according to the primary antibody
used, but it would be useless to ask questions about individual antibodies
because new ones are continuously developed.  Study the general method and
how it might vary (pretreatments, detection systems, chromogens.)

-Eric

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Rene J Buesa  wrote:

> I believe that "IHC stains" (by the way, they are not stains but detectable
> immunohistochemical reactions) refers to the method itself and its
> methodology.
> René J.
>
> From: Karla Arrington 
> To: Histonet 
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:32 PM
> Subject: [Histonet] HTL exam
>
> Histonetters:
>
> I have a co-hort that is going to be taking the HTL exam shortly.  As far
> as
> studying goes, what content of IHC does
> he need to know... example IHC stains.  The list just states IHC stains.
> There
> are lots of them so I would like some
> information as to how much of stains are on the exam if anyone can enlighte
> me
>
>
> Thanks!!
> Karla
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Re: [Histonet] HTL exam

[Rene J Buesa]

I believe that "IHC stains" (by the way, they are not stains but detectable 
immunohistochemical reactions) refers to the method itself and its methodology.
René J.

From: Karla Arrington 
To: Histonet 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:32 PM
Subject: [Histonet] HTL exam

Histonetters:

I have a co-hort that is going to be taking the HTL exam shortly.  As far as 
studying goes, what content of IHC does
he need to know... example IHC stains.  The list just states IHC stains.  There 
are lots of them so I would like some
information as to how much of stains are on the exam if anyone can enlighte 
me 


Thanks!!
Karla
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Re: [Histonet] HTL exam

[Jennifer MacDonald]

Have you looked at the examination guidelines posted at 
http://www.ascp.org/pdf/BOR-PDFs/Guidelines/ExaminationContentGuidelineHT.aspx




Karla Arrington  
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06/16/2011 12:33 PM

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Histonetters:

I have a co-hort that is going to be taking the HTL exam shortly.  As far 
as 
studying goes, what content of IHC does
he need to know... example IHC stains.  The list just states IHC stains.  
There 
are lots of them so I would like some
information as to how much of stains are on the exam if anyone can 
enlighte 
me 


Thanks!!
Karla 
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Re: [Histonet] HTL Distance Education Program

[godsgal...@aol.com]

What are the prerequisites to get in and what kind of degree if any, is 
obtained upon completion?

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

- Reply message -
From: "Geils, Karen Brinker" 
Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 9:36 am
Subject: [Histonet] HTL Distance Education Program
To: "histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu" 

The Medical University of South Carolina now offers a distance education (DE) 
option for HTL training. We currently have two DE students enrolled. The format 
of the program is designed for current employees in a histotechnology 
laboratory. The focus of the education is on the theory of histotechnology in 
order to prepare students for the HTL BOR exam. Evidence of clinical competence 
must be submitted throughout the program. Two start dates are available for DE 
students, April and September. We are currently accepting applications for the 
April 5th start date. For more information about the program, please see our 
website.

If you have any questions about the program you may contact me via email or 
phone.

Karen Geils


Karen Brinker Geils, MS, HT(ASCP), CT(ASCP)
Director, Histotechnology Program
Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine
Medical University of South Carolina
843-792-4013

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RE: [Histonet] HTL exam

[Morken, Tim]

Brian, 

What helped me a lot with stains, fixatives, etc, was to make a chart of each 
of the stain or fixative "families" (silver, trichromes, etc) and list the 
method steps of each, components used, and purpose of the components. That put 
in perspective the reasons for the differences, which are mysteries otherwise!

I also used the NSH study guides, and any other book or study guide I could 
find to refer to. 

I was also lucky that I had a group of four people who were studying for the 
test and we spent a YEAR in a once-weekly study group going through each 
chapter in detail (Sheehan at that time). That was great for motivation and 
staying on track.

Tim Morken
Supervisor, Histology / IPOX
UCSF Medical Center
San Francisco, CA  
 

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Does anyone have any advice on good study aids, areas of prep to concentrate 
on, or any test taking strategies that helped them? I have been pouring  over 
the 3rd ed of "histotechnology, a self instructional text" for months but since 
I have started to look at the ASCP/ NSH discussion boards im getting the 
feeling that it is just not enough. Thanks for any help.

-Brian 


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RE: [Histonet] HTL exam

[Carrie Disbrow]

Hi Peggy,
Wow, your response is why I love this board. I'm glad I have three months to 
review the areas not in my daily routine work.
Wish me luck,
Carrie

>>> "Lee & Peggy Wenk"  4/14/2010 10:27 PM >>>
That's really hard to say. There are no categories for Enzymes, EM or
Cytology.

The HT and HTL exams have 5 categories, 100 questions total. The number of
questions that a candidate is asked in each category is:
- Fixation = 10-25
- Processing/Embedding = 10-14
- Microtomy = 10-14
- Staining = 40-50
- Lab Operations (safety, math, equipment, regulations, etc.) = 10-15

Now, let's talk cytology questions. Was the question about:
- what solution the cells were placed in (alcohol, saccomano, etc) =
fixative question
- the Pap stain, or the Diff Quik = staining question
- bloodborne pathogens (BBP), centrifuge, staining GYN and non-GYN
separately = lab op questions

Same with Enzymes or IHC or EM:
- fresh tissue or fixed, and in what = fixation question
- time in processing or frozen, paraffin or resin = processing questions
- how thick to cut section, or frozen sectioning = microtomy questions
- how to do the stains, tissue ID = staining questions
- dilutions (math), molar solutions (math), BBP (safety), chemical disposal
(safety and regulations), how long to fix breast for ER/PR (regulations),
cryostat/microtome/processor (instrument), etc = lab op questions

Since there are 1000+ questions in the pool, and since candidates only
receive 100, random but in the above percentages, one person might get no
questions on, say, cytology, but another person could get 6, someone else 2.
Luck of the draw, so to speak.

So the person who says "I got 6 cytology questions" - really didn't. They
got, say, 2 fixation questions, 3 staining questions, and 1 regulation
question. The questions just happened to be on cytology. They could have
just as easily been on Gomori Trichrome.

Peggy A. Wenk, HTL(ASCP)SLS
Schools of Histotechnology
Beaumont Hospital
Royal Oak, MI 48073

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Carrie
Disbrow
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:32 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Subject: [Histonet] HTL exam

Hi. I'll be taking the ASCP HTL exam in three months.
Does anyone know what the percentage of  enzyme histochemistry, electron
microscopy, and cytology questions are for the HTL?
Thanks,
Carrie
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RE: [Histonet] HTL exam

[Carrie Disbrow]

Hi,
Come to think of it, there is a study guide and area of interest for most ASCP 
exams.
Thanks!
Carrie

>>> "Podawiltz, Thomas"  4/14/2010 3:53 PM >>>
I believe you can down load that from the ASCP site. 


Tom Podawiltz HT (ASCP) 
Histology Section Head/Laboratory Safety Officer
LRGHealthcare
603-524-3211 ext: 3220



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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Carrie Disbrow
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:32 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Subject: [Histonet] HTL exam

Hi. I'll be taking the ASCP HTL exam in three months.
Does anyone know what the percentage of  enzyme histochemistry, electron 
microscopy, and cytology questions are for the HTL?
Thanks,
Carrie 
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RE: [Histonet] HTL exam

[Lee & Peggy Wenk]

That's really hard to say. There are no categories for Enzymes, EM or
Cytology.

The HT and HTL exams have 5 categories, 100 questions total. The number of
questions that a candidate is asked in each category is:
- Fixation = 10-25
- Processing/Embedding = 10-14
- Microtomy = 10-14
- Staining = 40-50
- Lab Operations (safety, math, equipment, regulations, etc.) = 10-15

Now, let's talk cytology questions. Was the question about:
- what solution the cells were placed in (alcohol, saccomano, etc) =
fixative question
- the Pap stain, or the Diff Quik = staining question
- bloodborne pathogens (BBP), centrifuge, staining GYN and non-GYN
separately = lab op questions

Same with Enzymes or IHC or EM:
- fresh tissue or fixed, and in what = fixation question
- time in processing or frozen, paraffin or resin = processing questions
- how thick to cut section, or frozen sectioning = microtomy questions
- how to do the stains, tissue ID = staining questions
- dilutions (math), molar solutions (math), BBP (safety), chemical disposal
(safety and regulations), how long to fix breast for ER/PR (regulations),
cryostat/microtome/processor (instrument), etc = lab op questions

Since there are 1000+ questions in the pool, and since candidates only
receive 100, random but in the above percentages, one person might get no
questions on, say, cytology, but another person could get 6, someone else 2.
Luck of the draw, so to speak.

So the person who says "I got 6 cytology questions" - really didn't. They
got, say, 2 fixation questions, 3 staining questions, and 1 regulation
question. The questions just happened to be on cytology. They could have
just as easily been on Gomori Trichrome.

Peggy A. Wenk, HTL(ASCP)SLS
Schools of Histotechnology
Beaumont Hospital
Royal Oak, MI 48073

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Carrie
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Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:32 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] HTL exam

Hi. I'll be taking the ASCP HTL exam in three months.
Does anyone know what the percentage of  enzyme histochemistry, electron
microscopy, and cytology questions are for the HTL?
Thanks,
Carrie
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[Podawiltz, Thomas]

I believe you can down load that from the ASCP site. 

 
Tom Podawiltz HT (ASCP) 
Histology Section Head/Laboratory Safety Officer
LRGHealthcare
603-524-3211 ext: 3220



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To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] HTL exam

Hi. I'll be taking the ASCP HTL exam in three months.
Does anyone know what the percentage of  enzyme histochemistry, electron 
microscopy, and cytology questions are for the HTL?
Thanks,
Carrie 
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RE: [Histonet] HTL

[Kemlo Rogerson]

 
Some volunteer to stay 'behind the medics' as it is safe; some are kept
there kicking and screaming (I'm hoarse). Medics are medics; it is a
'gentlemen's club' but non-Path medics are finding their position eroded
by the Consultant Nurse and Consultant Physiotherapist. Pathologists are
strenously opposing the idea of a Consultant Biomedical Scientist but
bizzarely the Consultant Clinical Scientist is seen as OK. 
 

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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Anne van
Binsbergen
Sent: 15 July 2009 09:01
To: Kemlo Rogerson
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Shea's
Subject: Re: [Histonet] HTL

well said!!
your statement: 'Only when we step from behind the skirts of the Medics
will the sun shine on us' deserves dissection (pardon the pun)

are we volutarily 'behind the medics"
or
are we conveniently 'kept' there by those same medics

medics=pathologists (some exceptions)

where i come from most of these 'medics' are running the (very
lucrative) private labs and the techs are kept 'lean and hungry' - they
are 'worker bees'' grateful for work and paid a pittance.

i once voiced my desire to take unpaid leave in order to study further
and was refused time off for this, on the basis that i would then cost
more to employ!!!

i have a 4 year diploma (now called a BTech degree) - i am licensed as a
Medical Technologist with Cell Path Speciality.
i am neither an HT or an HTL.
i have 30 years experience and have been supervising/managing AP labs
for over 15 years but because i dont have a degree i would most likely
have a hard time finding employment in the USA or Canada - your loss
guys.
its not what you call it its how you apply what you know - having a
degree does not make you a good tech.

flame away!!

AnnieinArabia (out of Africa)

2009/7/15 Kemlo Rogerson 

> Do you want the blunt truth?
>
> There's a perception, even within the other disciplines in Diagnostic 
> Labs, that BMS's in Histology (HistoTechs) are second rate Scientists.

> I know that's an inflammatory remark but I've battled with it for
years.
> Pharmacists, Physiotherapists, Ots, Audiologists and Speech Language 
> Therapists run Clinics treat Patients and are 'clinical'. The 
> perception is that 'scientists' are not clinical and before we get 
> appreciated for that we probably need to run Clinics ourselves but how

> do Histotechs/ BMS's achieve that? In the UK scientific staff are 
> slowly doing that with Anticoagulant Clinics, with advanced dissection

> and the reporting of cervical smears after achieving the appropriate 
> level of qualification.
>
> I'm hoping one day that the 'glass ceiling' will be taken off the Path

> Labs and that a scientist will, after obtaining his/ her degree, 
> Masters (or PhD), like the Clinical Scientists, obtain the MRCPath and

> then clinically lead a discipline. Only when we step from behind the 
> skirts of the Medics will the sun shine on us.
>
> Does that help?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kemlo Rogerson MSc MIBiol CBiol DMS CSci FIBMS (I tried).
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shea's
> Sent: 15 July 2009 04:13
> To: jaustin1...@gmail.com
> Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] HTL
>
> Michael,
> Ditto, very well stated. I too believe that our industry is under 
> appreciated. Many new grads of today find a two year degree demeaning 
> and wouldn't consider HT because of it. I don't understand how some 
> professions like pharmacy & physical therapy gain respect and grow to 
> create 5 yr, 6yr & 7yr programs. They are very well respected by the 
> MDs and Hospital administration and have nice salaries to show for it.
>
> Why hasn't our field flourished?
> Jan, BS, HTL
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Re: [Histonet] HTL

[thecitan]

Anne

I think most techs I know are in the voluntary category you speak of.

Most are happy being microtome monkeys and never exploring the other 
possibilities in the field. Nothing wrong with that if that's what you want to 
do. Although there are many things you can do with - like anne said- applying 
what you know. 

As far as pathologists keeping you back -i think its just like any other 
business. The boss will always look to keep more money and will pay his workers 
the lowest he can. That's when you take your experience elsewhere, or simply 
stay somewhere for a while to learn and beef up that resume.
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-Original Message-
From: Anne van Binsbergen 

Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:01:24 
To: Kemlo Rogerson
Cc: ; Shea's
Subject: Re: [Histonet] HTL


well said!!
your statement: 'Only when we step from behind the skirts
of the Medics will the sun shine on us' deserves dissection (pardon the pun)

are we volutarily 'behind the medics"
or
are we conveniently 'kept' there by those same medics

medics=pathologists (some exceptions)

where i come from most of these 'medics' are running the (very lucrative)
private labs and the techs are kept 'lean and hungry' - they are 'worker
bees'' grateful for work and paid a pittance.

i once voiced my desire to take unpaid leave in order to study further and
was refused time off for this, on the basis that i would then cost more to
employ!!!

i have a 4 year diploma (now called a BTech degree) - i am licensed as a
 Medical Technologist with Cell Path Speciality.
i am neither an HT or an HTL.
i have 30 years experience and have been supervising/managing AP labs for
over 15 years
but because i dont have a degree i would most likely have a hard time
finding employment in the USA or Canada - your loss guys.
its not what you call it its how you apply what you know - having a degree
does not make you a good tech.

flame away!!

AnnieinArabia (out of Africa)

2009/7/15 Kemlo Rogerson 

> Do you want the blunt truth?
>
> There's a perception, even within the other disciplines in Diagnostic
> Labs, that BMS's in Histology (HistoTechs) are second rate Scientists. I
> know that's an inflammatory remark but I've battled with it for years.
> Pharmacists, Physiotherapists, Ots, Audiologists and Speech Language
> Therapists run Clinics treat Patients and are 'clinical'. The perception
> is that 'scientists' are not clinical and before we get appreciated for
> that we probably need to run Clinics ourselves but how do Histotechs/
> BMS's achieve that? In the UK scientific staff are slowly doing that
> with Anticoagulant Clinics, with advanced dissection and the reporting
> of cervical smears after achieving the appropriate level of
> qualification.
>
> I'm hoping one day that the 'glass ceiling' will be taken off the Path
> Labs and that a scientist will, after obtaining his/ her degree, Masters
> (or PhD), like the Clinical Scientists, obtain the MRCPath and then
> clinically lead a discipline. Only when we step from behind the skirts
> of the Medics will the sun shine on us.
>
> Does that help?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kemlo Rogerson MSc MIBiol CBiol DMS CSci FIBMS (I tried).
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shea's
> Sent: 15 July 2009 04:13
> To: jaustin1...@gmail.com
> Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] HTL
>
> Michael,
> Ditto, very well stated. I too believe that our industry is under
> appreciated. Many new grads of today find a two year degree demeaning
> and wouldn't consider HT because of it. I don't understand how some
> professions like pharmacy & physical therapy gain respect and grow to
> create 5 yr, 6yr & 7yr programs. They are very well respected by the MDs
> and Hospital administration and have nice salaries to show for it.
>
> Why hasn't our field flourished?
> Jan, BS, HTL
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Re: [Histonet] HTL

[Anne van Binsbergen]

well said!!
your statement: 'Only when we step from behind the skirts
of the Medics will the sun shine on us' deserves dissection (pardon the pun)

are we volutarily 'behind the medics"
or
are we conveniently 'kept' there by those same medics

medics=pathologists (some exceptions)

where i come from most of these 'medics' are running the (very lucrative)
private labs and the techs are kept 'lean and hungry' - they are 'worker
bees'' grateful for work and paid a pittance.

i once voiced my desire to take unpaid leave in order to study further and
was refused time off for this, on the basis that i would then cost more to
employ!!!

i have a 4 year diploma (now called a BTech degree) - i am licensed as a
 Medical Technologist with Cell Path Speciality.
i am neither an HT or an HTL.
i have 30 years experience and have been supervising/managing AP labs for
over 15 years
but because i dont have a degree i would most likely have a hard time
finding employment in the USA or Canada - your loss guys.
its not what you call it its how you apply what you know - having a degree
does not make you a good tech.

flame away!!

AnnieinArabia (out of Africa)

2009/7/15 Kemlo Rogerson 

> Do you want the blunt truth?
>
> There's a perception, even within the other disciplines in Diagnostic
> Labs, that BMS's in Histology (HistoTechs) are second rate Scientists. I
> know that's an inflammatory remark but I've battled with it for years.
> Pharmacists, Physiotherapists, Ots, Audiologists and Speech Language
> Therapists run Clinics treat Patients and are 'clinical'. The perception
> is that 'scientists' are not clinical and before we get appreciated for
> that we probably need to run Clinics ourselves but how do Histotechs/
> BMS's achieve that? In the UK scientific staff are slowly doing that
> with Anticoagulant Clinics, with advanced dissection and the reporting
> of cervical smears after achieving the appropriate level of
> qualification.
>
> I'm hoping one day that the 'glass ceiling' will be taken off the Path
> Labs and that a scientist will, after obtaining his/ her degree, Masters
> (or PhD), like the Clinical Scientists, obtain the MRCPath and then
> clinically lead a discipline. Only when we step from behind the skirts
> of the Medics will the sun shine on us.
>
> Does that help?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kemlo Rogerson MSc MIBiol CBiol DMS CSci FIBMS (I tried).
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shea's
> Sent: 15 July 2009 04:13
> To: jaustin1...@gmail.com
> Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] HTL
>
> Michael,
> Ditto, very well stated. I too believe that our industry is under
> appreciated. Many new grads of today find a two year degree demeaning
> and wouldn't consider HT because of it. I don't understand how some
> professions like pharmacy & physical therapy gain respect and grow to
> create 5 yr, 6yr & 7yr programs. They are very well respected by the MDs
> and Hospital administration and have nice salaries to show for it.
>
> Why hasn't our field flourished?
> Jan, BS, HTL
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RE: [Histonet] HTL

[Kemlo Rogerson]

Do you want the blunt truth?

There's a perception, even within the other disciplines in Diagnostic
Labs, that BMS's in Histology (HistoTechs) are second rate Scientists. I
know that's an inflammatory remark but I've battled with it for years.
Pharmacists, Physiotherapists, Ots, Audiologists and Speech Language
Therapists run Clinics treat Patients and are 'clinical'. The perception
is that 'scientists' are not clinical and before we get appreciated for
that we probably need to run Clinics ourselves but how do Histotechs/
BMS's achieve that? In the UK scientific staff are slowly doing that
with Anticoagulant Clinics, with advanced dissection and the reporting
of cervical smears after achieving the appropriate level of
qualification.

I'm hoping one day that the 'glass ceiling' will be taken off the Path
Labs and that a scientist will, after obtaining his/ her degree, Masters
(or PhD), like the Clinical Scientists, obtain the MRCPath and then
clinically lead a discipline. Only when we step from behind the skirts
of the Medics will the sun shine on us.

Does that help? 


 





Kemlo Rogerson MSc MIBiol CBiol DMS CSci FIBMS (I tried).   
 

-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Shea's
Sent: 15 July 2009 04:13
To: jaustin1...@gmail.com
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] HTL

Michael,
Ditto, very well stated. I too believe that our industry is under
appreciated. Many new grads of today find a two year degree demeaning
and wouldn't consider HT because of it. I don't understand how some
professions like pharmacy & physical therapy gain respect and grow to
create 5 yr, 6yr & 7yr programs. They are very well respected by the MDs
and Hospital administration and have nice salaries to show for it.

Why hasn't our field flourished?
Jan, BS, HTL
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Re: [Histonet] HTL (ASCP) seeks employment opportunites

[Rene J Buesa]

In the last issue of Advance for Medical Lab. Professionals there was an 
advertisement by Quest Diagnostics where they are looking for a supervisor at 
their Miramar histolab.I think you should contact them ASAP
René J.

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From: pathr...@comcast.net 
Subject: [Histonet] HTL (ASCP) seeks employment opportunites
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 10:20 AM


Degreed HTL/QIHC certified tech seeking opportunities in hi volume private labs
in the southeastern US. I am a Florida licensed supervisor w/ 20 years
experience including dermpath, IHC and lead positions. Interested in all
shifts, IHC,dermpath  and molecular path opportunities. Please feel free to
pass my email along to anyone you know who may be interested. 

Thanks in advance. 

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Re: [Histonet] HTL Flash Cards?

[Bryan Llewellyn]

In the three example cards they show there are errors.

In the first one it gives "liter" and "meter".  I know this spelling is 
common in the United States, but I believe the SI standard is "litre" and 
"metre".  In other words, include both.


In the middle one, about reticulin staining, I would dispute the dogmatic 
nature of the information.  Although this is a common explanation, it is not 
the modern one, which uses analogies to the photographic process.  It is 
presented as absolute fact when it is an unproven suggestion as to what may 
happen.


The final one, about dye structure, uses "chromogen" as a synonym for 
"chromophore", whereas it is a little used term for the dye+chromophore 
combination.  For that reason, the final use of "chromophore" should 
actually be "chromogen".  The word "auxophore" does not exist.  It should be 
auxochrome.


If you are going to use flash cards for improving rote learning of facts, 
make sure the facts being learned are correct.  I suggest that students 
should have the cards checked out by an experienced educator technologist 
before using them, as first-learned information stays with you for decades.


Bryan Llewellyn


- Original Message - 
From: "Lee & Peggy Wenk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Kristen Yaros'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Histonet'" 


Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] HTL Flash Cards?



I had never heard of them, so I looked them up on the website. Morrison
Media www.mo-med.com

They sell all kinds of flashcards and study guides for lots of tests. 
Under

the E-H category, where the HT and HTL flashcards have a link, there are
also links to Electrician exam, Paramedic exam, First Responder test,
Funeral Service test, GED, GRE, GMAT - you get the idea.

According to their general blurb, they have experts in the field writing 
the

flashcards. Does anyone know any histotech involved in writing the
flashcards? I'd love for them to talk about this.

I think for some people, having flashcards would fit with their style of
learning - give them soundbites of information on topics, instead of 
having

them read entire books. Or use this as a supplement to studying. Or have
them in their purse/pocket where they can pull out a card and study on the
go, instead of a book.

But I do have some concerns about the flashcards and the test taking
information this company supplies. If there is someone out there who 
helped
write the cards, or someone who has bought the cards to respond, that 
would

be helpful.
- They have topics divided into 2 tests (have to pay separate for them) - 
HT

and HTL. But when I look at what's on the HT exam vs. what's on the HTL
exam, I have some concerns.
- HTL need to know chemical fixatives, HT are supposed to know chemical 
and

physical fixation.
- HTL need to know autolysis, HT are supposed to know autolysis and
putrefaction
- HTL need to know acid decalcification, HT are supposed to know
decalcification and chelation
- HT are supposed to know Immunofluorescence, Electron microscopy, 
Carbowax

and Celloidin, which are not listed on the HTL topics (yet ASCP HTL exam
would include these topics, but ASCP HT exam would not)
- The only stains listed for HT are H&E, Mucopolysaccharides, 
Hyaluronidase,

Gomori Trichrome.
- HTL stains include Connective tissue, PTAH, Bacteria, Fungus, Gram,
Auramine-Rhodamine, Exogenous pigments, Minerals. Yet on the ASCP HT exam,
all these stains are also required for the HT exam.
You get the idea.

Also, under the "Histotechnology Exam Secrets Study Guide", they are 
saying
that their histotechnology exam study guide will help people "beat the 
test
taking game", and that their research in the HT and HTL exam offered by 
ASCP

"reveals specific weaknesses that you can exploit".

Basically, what followed were test taking tips - how to guess to your
advantage, how to tell the difference between right answers and clever
sounding traps, how random bits of information often give away the right
answer, how to look for key words to identify the correct answer, etc.

Yet I know that the ASCP Board of Registry has (or at least did have) a
psychometrician on staff - someone with a PhD in test writing, who works
with the histotechs and pathologists writing the exam questions, to
eliminate all the above "clues".

Between this company's "tips" and the customer testimonials that they only
studied for 1 week (one case, 5 hours) and passed the exam - I'm worried
about people who aren't studying for the HT/HTL exam, and think these test
taking clues will help them pass. This isn't like taking the GRE, where 
you
can get by with some math and grammar background that can to be 
refreshed -

the HT and HTL exams are based on a LOT of infor

RE: [Histonet] HTL Flash Cards?

[joelle weaver]

I was not involved in writing any questions/answers. However I am thinking of 
buying some of the cards just of out curiousity! I can understand the concern 
about the memorization aspect versus true understanding, application- a.k.a 
"knowledge". I definately think that this would be a drawback. I have worked 
with a number of folks who seemed to have memorized information for the test 
but either do not seem to have retained any of it, and/or unable to apply any 
of the details of that information when in a real laboratory situation. (and 
have apparantly also lost the ability to look up needed information).  I can 
also see that the HT versus HTL topic lists do not seem to coincide much with 
the topic and study lists published for registry exam preparation on the ASCP 
website? I know that the special stains list is most definately not a match. Go 
figure? 
It will be interesting to see what reply is posted.
Joelle> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > Date: Sat, 27 Sep 
2008 11:28:56 -0400> Subject: RE: [Histonet] HTL Flash Cards?> CC: > > I had 
never heard of them, so I looked them up on the website. Morrison> Media 
www.mo-med.com> > They sell all kinds of flashcards and study guides for lots 
of tests. Under> the E-H category, where the HT and HTL flashcards have a link, 
there are> also links to Electrician exam, Paramedic exam, First Responder 
test,> Funeral Service test, GED, GRE, GMAT - you get the idea. > > According 
to their general blurb, they have experts in the field writing the> flashcards. 
Does anyone know any histotech involved in writing the> flashcards? I'd love 
for them to talk about this.> > I think for some people, having flashcards 
would fit with their style of> learning - give them soundbites of information 
on topics, instead of having> them read entire books. Or use this as a 
supplement to studying. Or have> them in their purse/pocket where they can pull 
out a card and study on the> go, instead of a book.> > But I do have some 
concerns about the flashcards and the test taking> information this company 
supplies. If there is someone out there who helped> write the cards, or someone 
who has bought the cards to respond, that would> be helpful.> - They have 
topics divided into 2 tests (have to pay separate for them) - HT> and HTL. But 
when I look at what's on the HT exam vs. what's on the HTL> exam, I have some 
concerns.> - HTL need to know chemical fixatives, HT are supposed to know 
chemical and> physical fixation.> - HTL need to know autolysis, HT are supposed 
to know autolysis and> putrefaction> - HTL need to know acid decalcification, 
HT are supposed to know> decalcification and chelation> - HT are supposed to 
know Immunofluorescence, Electron microscopy, Carbowax> and Celloidin, which 
are not listed on the HTL topics (yet ASCP HTL exam> would include these 
topics, but ASCP HT exam would not)> - The only stains listed for HT are H&E, 
Mucopolysaccharides, Hyaluronidase,> Gomori Trichrome. > - HTL stains include 
Connective tissue, PTAH, Bacteria, Fungus, Gram,> Auramine-Rhodamine, Exogenous 
pigments, Minerals. Yet on the ASCP HT exam,> all these stains are also 
required for the HT exam.> You get the idea.> > Also, under the 
"Histotechnology Exam Secrets Study Guide", they are saying> that their 
histotechnology exam study guide will help people "beat the test> taking game", 
and that their research in the HT and HTL exam offered by ASCP> "reveals 
specific weaknesses that you can exploit".> > Basically, what followed were 
test taking tips - how to guess to your> advantage, how to tell the difference 
between right answers and clever> sounding traps, how random bits of 
information often give away the right> answer, how to look for key words to 
identify the correct answer, etc.> > Yet I know that the ASCP Board of Registry 
has (or at least did have) a> psychometrician on staff - someone with a PhD in 
test writing, who works> with the histotechs and pathologists writing the exam 
questions, to> eliminate all the above "clues".> > Between this company's 
"tips" and the customer testimonials that they only> studied for 1 week (one 
case, 5 hours) and passed the exam - I'm worried> about people who aren't 
studying for the HT/HTL exam, and think these test> taking clues will help them 
pass. This isn't like taking the GRE, where you> can get by with some math and 
grammar background that can to be refreshed -> the HT and HTL exams are based 
on a LOT of information that has to be> LEARNED and APPLIED.> > The other 
concern I have is that the 3 flashcards they show as examples are> still 
MEMORIZED information. What test takers have p

RE: [Histonet] HTL Flash Cards?

[Lee & Peggy Wenk]

I had never heard of them, so I looked them up on the website. Morrison
Media www.mo-med.com

They sell all kinds of flashcards and study guides for lots of tests. Under
the E-H category, where the HT and HTL flashcards have a link, there are
also links to Electrician exam, Paramedic exam, First Responder test,
Funeral Service test, GED, GRE, GMAT - you get the idea. 

According to their general blurb, they have experts in the field writing the
flashcards. Does anyone know any histotech involved in writing the
flashcards? I'd love for them to talk about this.

I think for some people, having flashcards would fit with their style of
learning - give them soundbites of information on topics, instead of having
them read entire books. Or use this as a supplement to studying. Or have
them in their purse/pocket where they can pull out a card and study on the
go, instead of a book.

But I do have some concerns about the flashcards and the test taking
information this company supplies. If there is someone out there who helped
write the cards, or someone who has bought the cards to respond, that would
be helpful.
- They have topics divided into 2 tests (have to pay separate for them) - HT
and HTL. But when I look at what's on the HT exam vs. what's on the HTL
exam, I have some concerns.
- HTL need to know chemical fixatives, HT are supposed to know chemical and
physical fixation.
- HTL need to know autolysis, HT are supposed to know autolysis and
putrefaction
- HTL need to know acid decalcification, HT are supposed to know
decalcification and chelation
- HT are supposed to know Immunofluorescence, Electron microscopy, Carbowax
and Celloidin, which are not listed on the HTL topics (yet ASCP HTL exam
would include these topics, but ASCP HT exam would not)
- The only stains listed for HT are H&E, Mucopolysaccharides, Hyaluronidase,
Gomori Trichrome. 
- HTL stains include Connective tissue, PTAH, Bacteria, Fungus, Gram,
Auramine-Rhodamine, Exogenous pigments, Minerals. Yet on the ASCP HT exam,
all these stains are also required for the HT exam.
You get the idea.

Also, under the "Histotechnology Exam Secrets Study Guide", they are saying
that their histotechnology exam study guide will help people "beat the test
taking game", and that their research in the HT and HTL exam offered by ASCP
"reveals specific weaknesses that you can exploit".

Basically, what followed were test taking tips - how to guess to your
advantage, how to tell the difference between right answers and clever
sounding traps, how random bits of information often give away the right
answer, how to look for key words to identify the correct answer, etc.

Yet I know that the ASCP Board of Registry has (or at least did have) a
psychometrician on staff - someone with a PhD in test writing, who works
with the histotechs and pathologists writing the exam questions, to
eliminate all the above "clues".

Between this company's "tips" and the customer testimonials that they only
studied for 1 week (one case, 5 hours) and passed the exam - I'm worried
about people who aren't studying for the HT/HTL exam, and think these test
taking clues will help them pass. This isn't like taking the GRE, where you
can get by with some math and grammar background that can to be refreshed -
the HT and HTL exams are based on a LOT of information that has to be
LEARNED and APPLIED.

The other concern I have is that the 3 flashcards they show as examples are
still MEMORIZED information. What test takers have problems with are the
PROBLEM-SOLVING and TROUBLESHOOTING aspects of the HT and HTL exams. Yes,
they need to know what the oxidizer in the retic stain is, but they also
need to know how to tell if it isn't working, or what to do if they run out,
etc.

So I'd love to hear from someone involved with writing these
flashcards/study guides, and would love to hear from someone who actually
bought them and used them.
 
Peggy A. Wenk, HTL(ASCP)SLS
Beaumont Hospital
Royal Oak, MI 48073

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Subject: [Histonet] HTL Flash Cards?

Has anyone heard of these? I just came across this site and was wondering if
anyone has used these pre-made flash cards.

http://www.flashcardsecrets.com/histotech/

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RE: [Histonet] HTL Flash Cards?

[joelle weaver]

Hi Kristen
Thanks for sharing this interesting site. I think that it might be useful now 
that exam is a computer-adapted test model. I think that these could be helpful 
for review. The topic list seemed fairly complete. I have never personally used 
them. I just studied from my own notes and reference texts, but I think that I 
will keep these in mind if any students in our local histotechnology program 
asks about study materials.
Regards-
Joelle Weaver HTL(ASCP)> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:11:46 -0400> From: [EMAIL 
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Flash Cards?> > Has anyone heard of these? I just came across this site and was 
wondering if> anyone has used these pre-made flash cards.> > 
http://www.flashcardsecrets.com/histotech/> > -- > Kristen Yaros, HT (ASCP)CM> 
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