Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

[Violent Crimes]

Anyone have a zip of the update they are willing to share

-Original Message-
From: AJ Collins 
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:08 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

At the right hand side on the treasure hunt page.

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Josh Bost  wrote:

> I'm not seeing any info about TF2 hats on the Steam Store's "Great Steam
> Treasure Hunt" page... care to elaborate?
>
> -Dislexsick :)
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Jason Ruymen  >wrote:
>
> > A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific
> > changes include:
> >
> > - Added the hats for The Great Steam Treasure Hunt.
> > - Fixed a bug that enabled players to weapon switch away from the Iron
> > Curtain during spin down.
> >
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

[AJ Collins]

At the right hand side on the treasure hunt page.

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Josh Bost  wrote:

> I'm not seeing any info about TF2 hats on the Steam Store's "Great Steam
> Treasure Hunt" page... care to elaborate?
>
> -Dislexsick :)
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Jason Ruymen  >wrote:
>
> > A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific
> > changes include:
> >
> > - Added the hats for The Great Steam Treasure Hunt.
> > - Fixed a bug that enabled players to weapon switch away from the Iron
> > Curtain during spin down.
> >
> > Jason
> >
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

[Josh Bost]

Disregard that, just found it...

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Josh Bost wrote:

> I'm not seeing any info about TF2 hats on the Steam Store's "Great Steam
> Treasure Hunt" page... care to elaborate?
>
> -Dislexsick :)
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Jason Ruymen wrote:
>
>> A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific
>> changes include:
>>
>> - Added the hats for The Great Steam Treasure Hunt.
>> - Fixed a bug that enabled players to weapon switch away from the Iron
>> Curtain during spin down.
>>
>> Jason
>>
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

[Matt Hoffman]

http://store.steampowered.com//treasurehunt/

Check the right side of the page.

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Josh Bost  wrote:

> I'm not seeing any info about TF2 hats on the Steam Store's "Great Steam
> Treasure Hunt" page... care to elaborate?
>
> -Dislexsick :)
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Jason Ruymen  >wrote:
>
> > A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific
> > changes include:
> >
> > - Added the hats for The Great Steam Treasure Hunt.
> > - Fixed a bug that enabled players to weapon switch away from the Iron
> > Curtain during spin down.
> >
> > Jason
> >
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

[Josh Bost]

I'm not seeing any info about TF2 hats on the Steam Store's "Great Steam
Treasure Hunt" page... care to elaborate?

-Dislexsick :)

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Jason Ruymen wrote:

> A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific
> changes include:
>
> - Added the hats for The Great Steam Treasure Hunt.
> - Fixed a bug that enabled players to weapon switch away from the Iron
> Curtain during spin down.
>
> Jason
>
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[hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

[Jason Ruymen]

A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific changes 
include:

- Added the hats for The Great Steam Treasure Hunt.
- Fixed a bug that enabled players to weapon switch away from the Iron Curtain 
during spin down.

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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Jeremy D. Pavleck]

That's the thing about it, too. You could ask them to click on the MOTD as
well, which would violate Googles ToS and be really noticeable, or have an
ingame announcement ask people to please click on the ads in the MOTD -
which would work, but would also violate the ToS - though hard to catch
unless someone actually plays on the server.
Though even that might set off a flag, as there'd be a noticeable trend at
every map switch of a higher than normal number of clicks. Who knows. I'll
leave it up to someone who doesn't mind losing their account to test. ha.

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 4:00 PM, DarthNinja wrote:

> You wont make any money from adsense unless people click on things, which
> they wont.
> Views get you shit (I tried it).  So unless you find an ad site that gives
> you $$ for views, meh.
>
>
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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Bence Nagy]

This is probably the second most helpful place on the interwebs (with
the first one being reddit.) Reading all these replies sure did cheer
me up.
Thanks for making my day :D

On 2010-12-07, msleeper  wrote:
> Nobody is going to go to your site, you don't have to keep posting it
> here.
>
> And without going off on a huge tangent about Google and Adsense, it's
> not uncommon of them to disable an account if you do things of a
> questionable practice. Who can know such things except for them?
>
>
>
> On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 21:36 +, Steven Polley wrote:
>> It's not against their ToS, so I don't know why they would...  Not to
>> mention we've had ads since the switch to webkit.
>> http://www.wdzclan.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Jeremy D. Pavleck" 
>> Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:25:18
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing
>> list
>> Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>  
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
>>
>> I'd be worried Google would disable the ads anyway, because they don't
>> quite
>> 'get' how they're being served. Still, I should try this.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:08 PM, msleeper
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Actually nvm, somebody else told me it does work. I'm not sure if
>> > Adsense changed or the move away from the IE browser changed or what.
>> >
>> > However, good luck getting anybody to click on them, much less getting
>> > rich quick with it. Nobody reads the MOTD for the rules, there's no way
>> > they're going to click on some ad.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 16:01 -0500, msleeper wrote:
>> > > Most ad services don't work with the in-game browser. I know that
>> > > Adsense doesn't, a few of the other bigger ones don't.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 20:54 +, Steven Polley wrote:
>> > > > Ads on motd = profit?  :O
>> > > > http://www.wdzclan.com
>> > > >
>> > > > -Original Message-
>> > > > From: Alec Sanger 
>> > > > Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> > > > Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:49:51
>> > > > To: 
>> > > > Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> > > > 
>> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > You're in the wrong business if you're looking to make a profit off
>> > running game servers. Some of us take donations to keep the servers
>> > afloat -
>> > these funds come from regulars who play on the servers and want to see
>> > them
>> > continue to operate. We all do this because we want to give something to
>> > the
>> > gaming community, we don't do it to make anything.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > From: alisaleem...@hotmail.com
>> > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> > > > > Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 01:44:44 +0500
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks a lot to everyone, Actually i was not expecting such
>> > > > > healthy
>> > replies :p thats why i just write it casually ignoring spells :) @
>> > Twilite
>> > :pAnyways Special thanks to Anon because i would have gone crazy
>> > searching
>> > google :dConcluded:Buy a good and Expensive Game Server, Then also buy a
>> > domain, make a website, start publishing and earn some money to manage
>> > it
>> > :p..But then the question arise, can you earn money from a Game Server?
>> > if
>> > yes. Then how?
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Re: [hlds] Help.

[DarthNinja]

You wont make any money from adsense unless people click on things, which
they wont.
Views get you shit (I tried it).  So unless you find an ad site that gives
you $$ for views, meh.



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Re: [hlds] Help.

[msleeper]

Nobody is going to go to your site, you don't have to keep posting it
here.

And without going off on a huge tangent about Google and Adsense, it's
not uncommon of them to disable an account if you do things of a
questionable practice. Who can know such things except for them?



On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 21:36 +, Steven Polley wrote:
> It's not against their ToS, so I don't know why they would...  Not to mention 
> we've had ads since the switch to webkit.
> http://www.wdzclan.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Jeremy D. Pavleck" 
> Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:25:18 
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>   
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> 
> I'd be worried Google would disable the ads anyway, because they don't quite
> 'get' how they're being served. Still, I should try this.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:08 PM, msleeper wrote:
> 
> > Actually nvm, somebody else told me it does work. I'm not sure if
> > Adsense changed or the move away from the IE browser changed or what.
> >
> > However, good luck getting anybody to click on them, much less getting
> > rich quick with it. Nobody reads the MOTD for the rules, there's no way
> > they're going to click on some ad.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 16:01 -0500, msleeper wrote:
> > > Most ad services don't work with the in-game browser. I know that
> > > Adsense doesn't, a few of the other bigger ones don't.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 20:54 +, Steven Polley wrote:
> > > > Ads on motd = profit?  :O
> > > > http://www.wdzclan.com
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Alec Sanger 
> > > > Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > > Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:49:51
> > > > To: 
> > > > Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > > 
> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You're in the wrong business if you're looking to make a profit off
> > running game servers. Some of us take donations to keep the servers afloat -
> > these funds come from regulars who play on the servers and want to see them
> > continue to operate. We all do this because we want to give something to the
> > gaming community, we don't do it to make anything.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > From: alisaleem...@hotmail.com
> > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > > > Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 01:44:44 +0500
> > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks a lot to everyone, Actually i was not expecting such healthy
> > replies :p thats why i just write it casually ignoring spells :) @ Twilite
> > :pAnyways Special thanks to Anon because i would have gone crazy searching
> > google :dConcluded:Buy a good and Expensive Game Server, Then also buy a
> > domain, make a website, start publishing and earn some money to manage it
> > :p..But then the question arise, can you earn money from a Game Server? if
> > yes. Then how?
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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Steven Polley]

It's not against their ToS, so I don't know why they would...  Not to mention 
we've had ads since the switch to webkit.
http://www.wdzclan.com

-Original Message-
From: "Jeremy D. Pavleck" 
Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:25:18 
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list

Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.

I'd be worried Google would disable the ads anyway, because they don't quite
'get' how they're being served. Still, I should try this.

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:08 PM, msleeper wrote:

> Actually nvm, somebody else told me it does work. I'm not sure if
> Adsense changed or the move away from the IE browser changed or what.
>
> However, good luck getting anybody to click on them, much less getting
> rich quick with it. Nobody reads the MOTD for the rules, there's no way
> they're going to click on some ad.
>
>
> On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 16:01 -0500, msleeper wrote:
> > Most ad services don't work with the in-game browser. I know that
> > Adsense doesn't, a few of the other bigger ones don't.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 20:54 +, Steven Polley wrote:
> > > Ads on motd = profit?  :O
> > > http://www.wdzclan.com
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Alec Sanger 
> > > Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:49:51
> > > To: 
> > > Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > 
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> > >
> > >
> > > You're in the wrong business if you're looking to make a profit off
> running game servers. Some of us take donations to keep the servers afloat -
> these funds come from regulars who play on the servers and want to see them
> continue to operate. We all do this because we want to give something to the
> gaming community, we don't do it to make anything.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: alisaleem...@hotmail.com
> > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > > Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 01:44:44 +0500
> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot to everyone, Actually i was not expecting such healthy
> replies :p thats why i just write it casually ignoring spells :) @ Twilite
> :pAnyways Special thanks to Anon because i would have gone crazy searching
> google :dConcluded:Buy a good and Expensive Game Server, Then also buy a
> domain, make a website, start publishing and earn some money to manage it
> :p..But then the question arise, can you earn money from a Game Server? if
> yes. Then how?
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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Jeremy D. Pavleck]

I'd be worried Google would disable the ads anyway, because they don't quite
'get' how they're being served. Still, I should try this.

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:08 PM, msleeper wrote:

> Actually nvm, somebody else told me it does work. I'm not sure if
> Adsense changed or the move away from the IE browser changed or what.
>
> However, good luck getting anybody to click on them, much less getting
> rich quick with it. Nobody reads the MOTD for the rules, there's no way
> they're going to click on some ad.
>
>
> On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 16:01 -0500, msleeper wrote:
> > Most ad services don't work with the in-game browser. I know that
> > Adsense doesn't, a few of the other bigger ones don't.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 20:54 +, Steven Polley wrote:
> > > Ads on motd = profit?  :O
> > > http://www.wdzclan.com
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Alec Sanger 
> > > Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:49:51
> > > To: 
> > > Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > 
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> > >
> > >
> > > You're in the wrong business if you're looking to make a profit off
> running game servers. Some of us take donations to keep the servers afloat -
> these funds come from regulars who play on the servers and want to see them
> continue to operate. We all do this because we want to give something to the
> gaming community, we don't do it to make anything.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: alisaleem...@hotmail.com
> > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > > Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 01:44:44 +0500
> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot to everyone, Actually i was not expecting such healthy
> replies :p thats why i just write it casually ignoring spells :) @ Twilite
> :pAnyways Special thanks to Anon because i would have gone crazy searching
> google :dConcluded:Buy a good and Expensive Game Server, Then also buy a
> domain, make a website, start publishing and earn some money to manage it
> :p..But then the question arise, can you earn money from a Game Server? if
> yes. Then how?
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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Oh Noes!]

Yes, it uses Webkit now.

- Oh Noes
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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Michael Krasnow
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 4:16 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.

didn't steam switch from IE to Webkit?

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 4:08 PM, msleeper
wrote:

> Actually nvm, somebody else told me it does work. I'm not sure if
> Adsense changed or the move away from the IE browser changed or what.
>
> However, good luck getting anybody to click on them, much less getting
> rich quick with it. Nobody reads the MOTD for the rules, there's no way
> they're going to click on some ad.
>
>
> On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 16:01 -0500, msleeper wrote:
> > Most ad services don't work with the in-game browser. I know that
> > Adsense doesn't, a few of the other bigger ones don't.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 20:54 +, Steven Polley wrote:
> > > Ads on motd = profit?  :O
> > > http://www.wdzclan.com
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Alec Sanger 
> > > Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:49:51
> > > To: 
> > > Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > 
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> > >
> > >
> > > You're in the wrong business if you're looking to make a profit off
> running game servers. Some of us take donations to keep the servers afloat
-
> these funds come from regulars who play on the servers and want to see
them
> continue to operate. We all do this because we want to give something to
the
> gaming community, we don't do it to make anything.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: alisaleem...@hotmail.com
> > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > > Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 01:44:44 +0500
> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot to everyone, Actually i was not expecting such healthy
> replies :p thats why i just write it casually ignoring spells :) @ Twilite
> :pAnyways Special thanks to Anon because i would have gone crazy searching
> google :dConcluded:Buy a good and Expensive Game Server, Then also buy a
> domain, make a website, start publishing and earn some money to manage it
> :p..But then the question arise, can you earn money from a Game Server? if
> yes. Then how?
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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Michael Krasnow]

didn't steam switch from IE to Webkit?

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 4:08 PM, msleeper wrote:

> Actually nvm, somebody else told me it does work. I'm not sure if
> Adsense changed or the move away from the IE browser changed or what.
>
> However, good luck getting anybody to click on them, much less getting
> rich quick with it. Nobody reads the MOTD for the rules, there's no way
> they're going to click on some ad.
>
>
> On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 16:01 -0500, msleeper wrote:
> > Most ad services don't work with the in-game browser. I know that
> > Adsense doesn't, a few of the other bigger ones don't.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 20:54 +, Steven Polley wrote:
> > > Ads on motd = profit?  :O
> > > http://www.wdzclan.com
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Alec Sanger 
> > > Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:49:51
> > > To: 
> > > Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > 
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> > >
> > >
> > > You're in the wrong business if you're looking to make a profit off
> running game servers. Some of us take donations to keep the servers afloat -
> these funds come from regulars who play on the servers and want to see them
> continue to operate. We all do this because we want to give something to the
> gaming community, we don't do it to make anything.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: alisaleem...@hotmail.com
> > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > > Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 01:44:44 +0500
> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot to everyone, Actually i was not expecting such healthy
> replies :p thats why i just write it casually ignoring spells :) @ Twilite
> :pAnyways Special thanks to Anon because i would have gone crazy searching
> google :dConcluded:Buy a good and Expensive Game Server, Then also buy a
> domain, make a website, start publishing and earn some money to manage it
> :p..But then the question arise, can you earn money from a Game Server? if
> yes. Then how?
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Re: [hlds] Help.

[msleeper]

Actually nvm, somebody else told me it does work. I'm not sure if
Adsense changed or the move away from the IE browser changed or what.

However, good luck getting anybody to click on them, much less getting
rich quick with it. Nobody reads the MOTD for the rules, there's no way
they're going to click on some ad.


On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 16:01 -0500, msleeper wrote:
> Most ad services don't work with the in-game browser. I know that
> Adsense doesn't, a few of the other bigger ones don't.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 20:54 +, Steven Polley wrote:
> > Ads on motd = profit?  :O
> > http://www.wdzclan.com
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alec Sanger 
> > Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:49:51 
> > To: 
> > Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > 
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> > 
> > 
> > You're in the wrong business if you're looking to make a profit off running 
> > game servers. Some of us take donations to keep the servers afloat - these 
> > funds come from regulars who play on the servers and want to see them 
> > continue to operate. We all do this because we want to give something to 
> > the gaming community, we don't do it to make anything.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > From: alisaleem...@hotmail.com
> > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 01:44:44 +0500
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks a lot to everyone, Actually i was not expecting such healthy 
> > > replies :p thats why i just write it casually ignoring spells :) @ 
> > > Twilite :pAnyways Special thanks to Anon because i would have gone crazy 
> > > searching google :dConcluded:Buy a good and Expensive Game Server, Then 
> > > also buy a domain, make a website, start publishing and earn some money 
> > > to manage it :p..But then the question arise, can you earn money from a 
> > > Game Server? if yes. Then how?  
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Re: [hlds] Help.

[msleeper]

Most ad services don't work with the in-game browser. I know that
Adsense doesn't, a few of the other bigger ones don't.



On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 20:54 +, Steven Polley wrote:
> Ads on motd = profit?  :O
> http://www.wdzclan.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Alec Sanger 
> Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:49:51 
> To: 
> Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>   
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> 
> 
> You're in the wrong business if you're looking to make a profit off running 
> game servers. Some of us take donations to keep the servers afloat - these 
> funds come from regulars who play on the servers and want to see them 
> continue to operate. We all do this because we want to give something to the 
> gaming community, we don't do it to make anything.
> 
> 
> 
> > From: alisaleem...@hotmail.com
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 01:44:44 +0500
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks a lot to everyone, Actually i was not expecting such healthy replies 
> > :p thats why i just write it casually ignoring spells :) @ Twilite 
> > :pAnyways Special thanks to Anon because i would have gone crazy searching 
> > google :dConcluded:Buy a good and Expensive Game Server, Then also buy a 
> > domain, make a website, start publishing and earn some money to manage it 
> > :p..But then the question arise, can you earn money from a Game Server? if 
> > yes. Then how?
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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Steven Polley]

Ads on motd = profit?  :O
http://www.wdzclan.com

-Original Message-
From: Alec Sanger 
Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:49:51 
To: 
Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list

Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.


You're in the wrong business if you're looking to make a profit off running 
game servers. Some of us take donations to keep the servers afloat - these 
funds come from regulars who play on the servers and want to see them continue 
to operate. We all do this because we want to give something to the gaming 
community, we don't do it to make anything.



> From: alisaleem...@hotmail.com
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 01:44:44 +0500
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> 
> 
> Thanks a lot to everyone, Actually i was not expecting such healthy replies 
> :p thats why i just write it casually ignoring spells :) @ Twilite :pAnyways 
> Special thanks to Anon because i would have gone crazy searching google 
> :dConcluded:Buy a good and Expensive Game Server, Then also buy a domain, 
> make a website, start publishing and earn some money to manage it :p..But 
> then the question arise, can you earn money from a Game Server? if yes. Then 
> how?  
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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Dominik Friedrichs]

I think playing the lottery would be easier.

- Original Message - 
From: "Muhammad Ali" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 21:44
Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.




Thanks a lot to everyone, Actually i was not expecting such healthy 
replies :p thats why i just write it casually ignoring spells :) @ Twilite 
:pAnyways Special thanks to Anon because i would have gone crazy searching 
google :dConcluded:Buy a good and Expensive Game Server, Then also buy a 
domain, make a website, start publishing and earn some money to manage it 
:p..But then the question arise, can you earn money from a Game Server? if 
yes. Then how?

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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Alec Sanger]

You're in the wrong business if you're looking to make a profit off running 
game servers. Some of us take donations to keep the servers afloat - these 
funds come from regulars who play on the servers and want to see them continue 
to operate. We all do this because we want to give something to the gaming 
community, we don't do it to make anything.



> From: alisaleem...@hotmail.com
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 01:44:44 +0500
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> 
> 
> Thanks a lot to everyone, Actually i was not expecting such healthy replies 
> :p thats why i just write it casually ignoring spells :) @ Twilite :pAnyways 
> Special thanks to Anon because i would have gone crazy searching google 
> :dConcluded:Buy a good and Expensive Game Server, Then also buy a domain, 
> make a website, start publishing and earn some money to manage it :p..But 
> then the question arise, can you earn money from a Game Server? if yes. Then 
> how?  
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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Muhammad Ali]

Thanks a lot to everyone, Actually i was not expecting such healthy replies :p 
thats why i just write it casually ignoring spells :) @ Twilite :pAnyways 
Special thanks to Anon because i would have gone crazy searching google 
:dConcluded:Buy a good and Expensive Game Server, Then also buy a domain, make 
a website, start publishing and earn some money to manage it :p..But then the 
question arise, can you earn money from a Game Server? if yes. Then how?

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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Dominik Friedrichs]

Actually I am on a tight budget but also use my VPS for private web-, email- 
etc. server AND one CS:S and TF2 server each, and they usually dont lag even 
with 20 players each.
Certainly you dont get 100% guarrantee, but its simply good enough in most 
cases. CPU load on my VPS, which seems to display for the whole host, is 
almost always below 20%. I dont know if that makes me lucky or anything but 
it has been like that for 2 years now and they have moved my VPS to new host 
hardware several times.


- Original Message - 
From: "]HeLL[ Nomy" 
To: ; "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 


Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 20:23
Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.


There is nothing wrong with virtualisation as long as you use it for web
servers etc... Not some busy game servers... because the CPU and the RAM is
SHARED. The network connection on the parent machine is also shared across
other VPSs. Some GSP advertise that their VPS can handle game servers very
well. Thats just BS IMO.

If your friend is running CSS, TF2 and Gmod servers on 1 VPS, they wont lag
if empty or with few players on. Once they gain popularity, that's when the
lag hits all 3 gameservers.

If you are on a tight budget, get game server slots, works out alot cheaper
than a VPS.

On 7 December 2010 18:49,  wrote:


There's nothing wrong with virtualization, you get what you pay for.  My
buddy is renting a vps from NFO, and he's running a tf2, gmod and css
server.  Netgraph doesn't show any choke, and the fps's remain consistent.
 I honestly do believe it's advanced far enough to actually be useful in
this manner, so why not take advantage of it if you're running on a tight
budget?
Sent from my BlackBerry® phone powered by Koodo Mobile®.

-Original Message-
From: "]HeLL[ Nomy" 
Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:42:46
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list<
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
   
Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.

http://www.gtxgaming.co.uk/dedicated-servers
Pretty good price... hosted in good datacentre...
Don't get the VPS tho but some people like laggy servers they can get VPS
:)

On 7 December 2010 17:52, Graham M  wrote:

>  Probably 1and1?
>
>
> On 07/12/2010 17:30, Drogen Viech wrote:
>
>> A german provider?! Please tell us which one it is :O
>> (Or me, in a personal e-mail, if you don't want to advertise hosting
>> companies in here).
>>
>> 2010/12/7 Dominik Friedrichs:
>>
>>> Just as a note, I'm running a CS:S and TF2 on a VPS from a
>>> professional/reputable German provider, I admit there are times with
lags
>>> but those are very rare. Its a great compromise for 30 Euros a month,
as
>>> compared to their cheapest dedicated wich is around 80 Euros.
>>> But its always a little bit of a gambling when trying out new
providers,
>>> thats for sure. Good thing is, some allow you to try out a VPS for a
>>> certain
>>> time for free.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Shane Arnold"<
>>> clontar...@iinet.net.au>
>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>>> 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 16:35
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
>>>
>>>
>>>  "This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and
 decent
 hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers."

 And until the day every other VPS provider follows this mindset, 
 VPS's
 will always be unsuitable for the demand a high-usage game server 
 will

 put
 on it. It's all well and good flogging the NFO horse, but give it a
 rest. A
 dedicated server will always outperform a VPS equivalent of the same
 spec.
 I'd recommend simply renting a server instead of the VPS or dedicated
 solution. It's a lot of investment for a game server.


 On 07/12/2010 11:27 PM, Oh Noes! wrote:

> This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and
> decent
> hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers. I didn't
> believe
> it was possible to do well with a virtual server either, until I saw
it
> done
> at nfoservers.com. We have 3 TF2 servers running without problems on
a
> hyperthreaded 2 core virtual server from NFO.
>
> - Oh Noes!
> MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
> MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ]HeLL[
Nomy
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:15 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
>
> Dont get a Virtual Server... all it will do is lag, that's why its
> cheaper
> to get one Dont believe people or websites when they say its
> possible
> to
> host game servers virtually... You can host it virtually a laggy
server
> if
> that's what you want...

Re: [hlds] Help.

[Jeremy D. Pavleck]

I don't know if that's 100% true these days. With the advances made in Xen
and other systems, and the ability to dedicate cores and network cards to
specific virtuals, I could see it working fine. Hell, at the very least it's
worth trying it out - that's what I plan on doing in a bit, see if these
claims are up to snuff.


On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:23 PM, ]HeLL[ Nomy  wrote:

> There is nothing wrong with virtualisation as long as you use it for web
> servers etc... Not some busy game servers... because the CPU and the RAM is
> SHARED. The network connection on the parent machine is also shared across
> other VPSs. Some GSP advertise that their VPS can handle game servers very
> well. Thats just BS IMO.
>
> If your friend is running CSS, TF2 and Gmod servers on 1 VPS, they wont lag
> if empty or with few players on. Once they gain popularity, that's when the
> lag hits all 3 gameservers.
>
> If you are on a tight budget, get game server slots, works out alot cheaper
> than a VPS.
>
> On 7 December 2010 18:49,  wrote:
>
> > There's nothing wrong with virtualization, you get what you pay for.  My
> > buddy is renting a vps from NFO, and he's running a tf2, gmod and css
> > server.  Netgraph doesn't show any choke, and the fps's remain
> consistent.
> >  I honestly do believe it's advanced far enough to actually be useful in
> > this manner, so why not take advantage of it if you're running on a tight
> > budget?
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® phone powered by Koodo Mobile®.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "]HeLL[ Nomy" 
> > Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:42:46
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list<
> > hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> > Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> >
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> >
> > http://www.gtxgaming.co.uk/dedicated-servers
> > Pretty good price... hosted in good datacentre...
> > Don't get the VPS tho but some people like laggy servers they can get VPS
> > :)
> >
> > On 7 December 2010 17:52, Graham M  wrote:
> >
> > >  Probably 1and1?
> > >
> > >
> > > On 07/12/2010 17:30, Drogen Viech wrote:
> > >
> > >> A german provider?! Please tell us which one it is :O
> > >> (Or me, in a personal e-mail, if you don't want to advertise hosting
> > >> companies in here).
> > >>
> > >> 2010/12/7 Dominik Friedrichs:
> > >>
> > >>> Just as a note, I'm running a CS:S and TF2 on a VPS from a
> > >>> professional/reputable German provider, I admit there are times with
> > lags
> > >>> but those are very rare. Its a great compromise for 30 Euros a month,
> > as
> > >>> compared to their cheapest dedicated wich is around 80 Euros.
> > >>> But its always a little bit of a gambling when trying out new
> > providers,
> > >>> thats for sure. Good thing is, some allow you to try out a VPS for a
> > >>> certain
> > >>> time for free.
> > >>>
> > >>> - Original Message - From: "Shane Arnold"<
> > >>> clontar...@iinet.net.au>
> > >>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
> > >>> 
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 16:35
> > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>  "This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and
> >  decent
> >  hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers."
> > 
> >  And until the day every other VPS provider follows this mindset,
> VPS's
> >  will always be unsuitable for the demand a high-usage game server
> will
> >  put
> >  on it. It's all well and good flogging the NFO horse, but give it a
> >  rest. A
> >  dedicated server will always outperform a VPS equivalent of the same
> >  spec.
> >  I'd recommend simply renting a server instead of the VPS or
> dedicated
> >  solution. It's a lot of investment for a game server.
> > 
> > 
> >  On 07/12/2010 11:27 PM, Oh Noes! wrote:
> > 
> > > This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and
> > > decent
> > > hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers. I didn't
> > > believe
> > > it was possible to do well with a virtual server either, until I
> saw
> > it
> > > done
> > > at nfoservers.com. We have 3 TF2 servers running without problems
> on
> > a
> > > hyperthreaded 2 core virtual server from NFO.
> > >
> > > - Oh Noes!
> > > MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
> > > MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ]HeLL[
> > Nomy
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:15 AM
> > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> > >
> > > Dont get a Virtual Server... all it will do is lag, that's why its
> > > cheaper
> > > to get one Dont believe people or websites when they say its
> > > possible
> > > t

Re: [hlds] Help.

[Kevin b er]

Don't get "burstable" RAM (burstable = shared) and ask questions about the
HD.  It really seems like all the file I/O for srcds is single threaded, so
if the file I/O stalls too long you'll get lag spikes.

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:53 PM, John  wrote:

> Nomy, that's the conventional wisdom about VPSes, and the many levels of
> sharing that you're describing may be true at many VPS providers (any
> company with "burstable" RAM would be an example of one to avoid for a game
> server), but it's also possible to dedicate CPU cores and memory to each
> VPS. When this is combined with a high-performance virtualization platform
> such as Xen, and various tweaks are applied, such as PV-on-HVM drivers and
> the use of stubdoms, it's possible to get performance that's very close to
> bare hardware. If a game server wouldn't have problems on a regular
> dedicated server, it wouldn't have a problem on one of these well-configured
> virtual servers, either.
>
> The disk and network are still shared, but game servers don't actually use
> the disk much, and modern gigE network adapters have functionality built in
> that makes them perform at near line-rate for virtualized machines.
>
> -John
>
>
> On 12/7/2010 11:23 AM, ]HeLL[ Nomy wrote:
>
>> There is nothing wrong with virtualisation as long as you use it for web
>> servers etc... Not some busy game servers... because the CPU and the RAM
>> is
>> SHARED. The network connection on the parent machine is also shared across
>> other VPSs. Some GSP advertise that their VPS can handle game servers very
>> well. Thats just BS IMO.
>>
>> If your friend is running CSS, TF2 and Gmod servers on 1 VPS, they wont
>> lag
>> if empty or with few players on. Once they gain popularity, that's when
>> the
>> lag hits all 3 gameservers.
>>
>> If you are on a tight budget, get game server slots, works out alot
>> cheaper
>> than a VPS.
>>
>> On 7 December 2010 18:49,  wrote:
>>
>>  There's nothing wrong with virtualization, you get what you pay for.  My
>>> buddy is renting a vps from NFO, and he's running a tf2, gmod and css
>>> server.  Netgraph doesn't show any choke, and the fps's remain
>>> consistent.
>>>  I honestly do believe it's advanced far enough to actually be useful in
>>> this manner, so why not take advantage of it if you're running on a tight
>>> budget?
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® phone powered by Koodo Mobile®.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: "]HeLL[ Nomy"
>>> Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:42:46
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list<
>>> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
>>> Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
>>>
>>> http://www.gtxgaming.co.uk/dedicated-servers
>>> Pretty good price... hosted in good datacentre...
>>> Don't get the VPS tho but some people like laggy servers they can get VPS
>>> :)
>>>
>>> On 7 December 2010 17:52, Graham M  wrote:
>>>
>>>   Probably 1and1?


 On 07/12/2010 17:30, Drogen Viech wrote:

  A german provider?! Please tell us which one it is :O
> (Or me, in a personal e-mail, if you don't want to advertise hosting
> companies in here).
>
> 2010/12/7 Dominik Friedrichs:
>
>  Just as a note, I'm running a CS:S and TF2 on a VPS from a
>> professional/reputable German provider, I admit there are times with
>>
> lags
>>>
  but those are very rare. Its a great compromise for 30 Euros a month,
>>
> as
>>>
  compared to their cheapest dedicated wich is around 80 Euros.
>> But its always a little bit of a gambling when trying out new
>>
> providers,
>>>
  thats for sure. Good thing is, some allow you to try out a VPS for a
>> certain
>> time for free.
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Shane Arnold"<
>> clontar...@iinet.net.au>
>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 16:35
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
>>
>>
>>  "This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and
>>
>>> decent
>>> hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers."
>>>
>>> And until the day every other VPS provider follows this mindset,
>>> VPS's
>>> will always be unsuitable for the demand a high-usage game server
>>> will
>>> put
>>> on it. It's all well and good flogging the NFO horse, but give it a
>>> rest. A
>>> dedicated server will always outperform a VPS equivalent of the same
>>> spec.
>>> I'd recommend simply renting a server instead of the VPS or dedicated
>>> solution. It's a lot of investment for a game server.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/12/2010 11:27 PM, Oh Noes! wrote:
>>>
>>>  This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and
 decent
 hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers. I didn't
 believe
>

Re: [hlds] Help.

[John]

Nomy, that's the conventional wisdom about VPSes, and the many levels of 
sharing that you're describing may be true at many VPS providers (any 
company with "burstable" RAM would be an example of one to avoid for a 
game server), but it's also possible to dedicate CPU cores and memory to 
each VPS. When this is combined with a high-performance virtualization 
platform such as Xen, and various tweaks are applied, such as PV-on-HVM 
drivers and the use of stubdoms, it's possible to get performance that's 
very close to bare hardware. If a game server wouldn't have problems on 
a regular dedicated server, it wouldn't have a problem on one of these 
well-configured virtual servers, either.


The disk and network are still shared, but game servers don't actually 
use the disk much, and modern gigE network adapters have functionality 
built in that makes them perform at near line-rate for virtualized machines.


-John

On 12/7/2010 11:23 AM, ]HeLL[ Nomy wrote:

There is nothing wrong with virtualisation as long as you use it for web
servers etc... Not some busy game servers... because the CPU and the RAM is
SHARED. The network connection on the parent machine is also shared across
other VPSs. Some GSP advertise that their VPS can handle game servers very
well. Thats just BS IMO.

If your friend is running CSS, TF2 and Gmod servers on 1 VPS, they wont lag
if empty or with few players on. Once they gain popularity, that's when the
lag hits all 3 gameservers.

If you are on a tight budget, get game server slots, works out alot cheaper
than a VPS.

On 7 December 2010 18:49,  wrote:


There's nothing wrong with virtualization, you get what you pay for.  My
buddy is renting a vps from NFO, and he's running a tf2, gmod and css
server.  Netgraph doesn't show any choke, and the fps's remain consistent.
  I honestly do believe it's advanced far enough to actually be useful in
this manner, so why not take advantage of it if you're running on a tight
budget?
Sent from my BlackBerry® phone powered by Koodo Mobile®.

-Original Message-
From: "]HeLL[ Nomy"
Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:42:46
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list<
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list

Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.

http://www.gtxgaming.co.uk/dedicated-servers
Pretty good price... hosted in good datacentre...
Don't get the VPS tho but some people like laggy servers they can get VPS
:)

On 7 December 2010 17:52, Graham M  wrote:


  Probably 1and1?


On 07/12/2010 17:30, Drogen Viech wrote:


A german provider?! Please tell us which one it is :O
(Or me, in a personal e-mail, if you don't want to advertise hosting
companies in here).

2010/12/7 Dominik Friedrichs:


Just as a note, I'm running a CS:S and TF2 on a VPS from a
professional/reputable German provider, I admit there are times with

lags

but those are very rare. Its a great compromise for 30 Euros a month,

as

compared to their cheapest dedicated wich is around 80 Euros.
But its always a little bit of a gambling when trying out new

providers,

thats for sure. Good thing is, some allow you to try out a VPS for a
certain
time for free.

- Original Message - From: "Shane Arnold"<
clontar...@iinet.net.au>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"

Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 16:35
Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.


  "This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and

decent
hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers."

And until the day every other VPS provider follows this mindset, VPS's
will always be unsuitable for the demand a high-usage game server will
put
on it. It's all well and good flogging the NFO horse, but give it a
rest. A
dedicated server will always outperform a VPS equivalent of the same
spec.
I'd recommend simply renting a server instead of the VPS or dedicated
solution. It's a lot of investment for a game server.


On 07/12/2010 11:27 PM, Oh Noes! wrote:


This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and
decent
hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers. I didn't
believe
it was possible to do well with a virtual server either, until I saw

it

done
at nfoservers.com. We have 3 TF2 servers running without problems on

a

hyperthreaded 2 core virtual server from NFO.

- Oh Noes!
MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ]HeLL[

Nomy

Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:15 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.

Dont get a Virtual Server... all it will do is lag, that's why its
cheaper
to get one Dont believe people or websites when they say its
possible
to
host game servers virtually... You can host it virtually a laggy

server

if
that's what you want...

Get a Dedicated Server with good sp

Re: [hlds] Help.

[]HeLL[ Nomy]

There is nothing wrong with virtualisation as long as you use it for web
servers etc... Not some busy game servers... because the CPU and the RAM is
SHARED. The network connection on the parent machine is also shared across
other VPSs. Some GSP advertise that their VPS can handle game servers very
well. Thats just BS IMO.

If your friend is running CSS, TF2 and Gmod servers on 1 VPS, they wont lag
if empty or with few players on. Once they gain popularity, that's when the
lag hits all 3 gameservers.

If you are on a tight budget, get game server slots, works out alot cheaper
than a VPS.

On 7 December 2010 18:49,  wrote:

> There's nothing wrong with virtualization, you get what you pay for.  My
> buddy is renting a vps from NFO, and he's running a tf2, gmod and css
> server.  Netgraph doesn't show any choke, and the fps's remain consistent.
>  I honestly do believe it's advanced far enough to actually be useful in
> this manner, so why not take advantage of it if you're running on a tight
> budget?
> Sent from my BlackBerry® phone powered by Koodo Mobile®.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "]HeLL[ Nomy" 
> Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:42:46
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list<
> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
>
> http://www.gtxgaming.co.uk/dedicated-servers
> Pretty good price... hosted in good datacentre...
> Don't get the VPS tho but some people like laggy servers they can get VPS
> :)
>
> On 7 December 2010 17:52, Graham M  wrote:
>
> >  Probably 1and1?
> >
> >
> > On 07/12/2010 17:30, Drogen Viech wrote:
> >
> >> A german provider?! Please tell us which one it is :O
> >> (Or me, in a personal e-mail, if you don't want to advertise hosting
> >> companies in here).
> >>
> >> 2010/12/7 Dominik Friedrichs:
> >>
> >>> Just as a note, I'm running a CS:S and TF2 on a VPS from a
> >>> professional/reputable German provider, I admit there are times with
> lags
> >>> but those are very rare. Its a great compromise for 30 Euros a month,
> as
> >>> compared to their cheapest dedicated wich is around 80 Euros.
> >>> But its always a little bit of a gambling when trying out new
> providers,
> >>> thats for sure. Good thing is, some allow you to try out a VPS for a
> >>> certain
> >>> time for free.
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message - From: "Shane Arnold"<
> >>> clontar...@iinet.net.au>
> >>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
> >>> 
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 16:35
> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  "This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and
>  decent
>  hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers."
> 
>  And until the day every other VPS provider follows this mindset, VPS's
>  will always be unsuitable for the demand a high-usage game server will
>  put
>  on it. It's all well and good flogging the NFO horse, but give it a
>  rest. A
>  dedicated server will always outperform a VPS equivalent of the same
>  spec.
>  I'd recommend simply renting a server instead of the VPS or dedicated
>  solution. It's a lot of investment for a game server.
> 
> 
>  On 07/12/2010 11:27 PM, Oh Noes! wrote:
> 
> > This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and
> > decent
> > hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers. I didn't
> > believe
> > it was possible to do well with a virtual server either, until I saw
> it
> > done
> > at nfoservers.com. We have 3 TF2 servers running without problems on
> a
> > hyperthreaded 2 core virtual server from NFO.
> >
> > - Oh Noes!
> > MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
> > MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ]HeLL[
> Nomy
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:15 AM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
> >
> > Dont get a Virtual Server... all it will do is lag, that's why its
> > cheaper
> > to get one Dont believe people or websites when they say its
> > possible
> > to
> > host game servers virtually... You can host it virtually a laggy
> server
> > if
> > that's what you want...
> >
> > Get a Dedicated Server with good specs and use it to host your game
> > server.
> >
> > On 7 December 2010 14:51, Oh Noes!wrote:
> >
> >  Setting up your server's IP address to appear as your domain can be
> >> done
> >> through your name servers of your web hosting. However, if you wish
> to
> >> run
> >> a
> >> server that doesn't use up your own resources, you will need to pay
> >> for
> >> an
> >> additional hos

Re: [hlds] Help.

[superrawr]

There's nothing wrong with virtualization, you get what you pay for.  My buddy 
is renting a vps from NFO, and he's running a tf2, gmod and css server.  
Netgraph doesn't show any choke, and the fps's remain consistent.  I honestly 
do believe it's advanced far enough to actually be useful in this manner, so 
why not take advantage of it if you're running on a tight budget?
Sent from my BlackBerry® phone powered by Koodo Mobile®.

-Original Message-
From: "]HeLL[ Nomy" 
Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:42:46 
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list

Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.

http://www.gtxgaming.co.uk/dedicated-servers
Pretty good price... hosted in good datacentre...
Don't get the VPS tho but some people like laggy servers they can get VPS :)

On 7 December 2010 17:52, Graham M  wrote:

>  Probably 1and1?
>
>
> On 07/12/2010 17:30, Drogen Viech wrote:
>
>> A german provider?! Please tell us which one it is :O
>> (Or me, in a personal e-mail, if you don't want to advertise hosting
>> companies in here).
>>
>> 2010/12/7 Dominik Friedrichs:
>>
>>> Just as a note, I'm running a CS:S and TF2 on a VPS from a
>>> professional/reputable German provider, I admit there are times with lags
>>> but those are very rare. Its a great compromise for 30 Euros a month, as
>>> compared to their cheapest dedicated wich is around 80 Euros.
>>> But its always a little bit of a gambling when trying out new providers,
>>> thats for sure. Good thing is, some allow you to try out a VPS for a
>>> certain
>>> time for free.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Shane Arnold"<
>>> clontar...@iinet.net.au>
>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>>> 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 16:35
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
>>>
>>>
>>>  "This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and
 decent
 hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers."

 And until the day every other VPS provider follows this mindset, VPS's
 will always be unsuitable for the demand a high-usage game server will
 put
 on it. It's all well and good flogging the NFO horse, but give it a
 rest. A
 dedicated server will always outperform a VPS equivalent of the same
 spec.
 I'd recommend simply renting a server instead of the VPS or dedicated
 solution. It's a lot of investment for a game server.


 On 07/12/2010 11:27 PM, Oh Noes! wrote:

> This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and
> decent
> hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers. I didn't
> believe
> it was possible to do well with a virtual server either, until I saw it
> done
> at nfoservers.com. We have 3 TF2 servers running without problems on a
> hyperthreaded 2 core virtual server from NFO.
>
> - Oh Noes!
> MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
> MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ]HeLL[ Nomy
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:15 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
>
> Dont get a Virtual Server... all it will do is lag, that's why its
> cheaper
> to get one Dont believe people or websites when they say its
> possible
> to
> host game servers virtually... You can host it virtually a laggy server
> if
> that's what you want...
>
> Get a Dedicated Server with good specs and use it to host your game
> server.
>
> On 7 December 2010 14:51, Oh Noes!wrote:
>
>  Setting up your server's IP address to appear as your domain can be
>> done
>> through your name servers of your web hosting. However, if you wish to
>> run
>> a
>> server that doesn't use up your own resources, you will need to pay
>> for
>> an
>> additional host through another type of company; called a game server
>> provider. You'll have to make some decisions like anon said and then
>> make
>> the separate purchase for a hosted game server. I like
>> http://www.nfoservers.com as well; they are pricey, but they beat
>> every
>> other provider that I've personally looked at in service, quality, and
>> features.
>>
>> - Oh Noes!
>> MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
>> MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad
>> Ali
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:23 AM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: [hlds] Help.
>>
>>
>> I am using Window XP and want to host my own game server on linux, I
>>
> rented
>

Re: [hlds] Help.

[]HeLL[ Nomy]

http://www.gtxgaming.co.uk/dedicated-servers
Pretty good price... hosted in good datacentre...
Don't get the VPS tho but some people like laggy servers they can get VPS :)

On 7 December 2010 17:52, Graham M  wrote:

>  Probably 1and1?
>
>
> On 07/12/2010 17:30, Drogen Viech wrote:
>
>> A german provider?! Please tell us which one it is :O
>> (Or me, in a personal e-mail, if you don't want to advertise hosting
>> companies in here).
>>
>> 2010/12/7 Dominik Friedrichs:
>>
>>> Just as a note, I'm running a CS:S and TF2 on a VPS from a
>>> professional/reputable German provider, I admit there are times with lags
>>> but those are very rare. Its a great compromise for 30 Euros a month, as
>>> compared to their cheapest dedicated wich is around 80 Euros.
>>> But its always a little bit of a gambling when trying out new providers,
>>> thats for sure. Good thing is, some allow you to try out a VPS for a
>>> certain
>>> time for free.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Shane Arnold"<
>>> clontar...@iinet.net.au>
>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>>> 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 16:35
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
>>>
>>>
>>>  "This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and
 decent
 hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers."

 And until the day every other VPS provider follows this mindset, VPS's
 will always be unsuitable for the demand a high-usage game server will
 put
 on it. It's all well and good flogging the NFO horse, but give it a
 rest. A
 dedicated server will always outperform a VPS equivalent of the same
 spec.
 I'd recommend simply renting a server instead of the VPS or dedicated
 solution. It's a lot of investment for a game server.


 On 07/12/2010 11:27 PM, Oh Noes! wrote:

> This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and
> decent
> hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers. I didn't
> believe
> it was possible to do well with a virtual server either, until I saw it
> done
> at nfoservers.com. We have 3 TF2 servers running without problems on a
> hyperthreaded 2 core virtual server from NFO.
>
> - Oh Noes!
> MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
> MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ]HeLL[ Nomy
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:15 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
>
> Dont get a Virtual Server... all it will do is lag, that's why its
> cheaper
> to get one Dont believe people or websites when they say its
> possible
> to
> host game servers virtually... You can host it virtually a laggy server
> if
> that's what you want...
>
> Get a Dedicated Server with good specs and use it to host your game
> server.
>
> On 7 December 2010 14:51, Oh Noes!wrote:
>
>  Setting up your server's IP address to appear as your domain can be
>> done
>> through your name servers of your web hosting. However, if you wish to
>> run
>> a
>> server that doesn't use up your own resources, you will need to pay
>> for
>> an
>> additional host through another type of company; called a game server
>> provider. You'll have to make some decisions like anon said and then
>> make
>> the separate purchase for a hosted game server. I like
>> http://www.nfoservers.com as well; they are pricey, but they beat
>> every
>> other provider that I've personally looked at in service, quality, and
>> features.
>>
>> - Oh Noes!
>> MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
>> MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad
>> Ali
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:23 AM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: [hlds] Help.
>>
>>
>> I am using Window XP and want to host my own game server on linux, I
>>
> rented
>
>> a domain and it is providing me unlimited space, so i want to remotely
>> run
>> HLDS.exe on it so that the ip address of my hlds is the same as my
>> domain
>> and my window resources are not used and if i sutdown my window the
>> server
>> keep on running. but i don't know how to do it so please help me...
>>
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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Dallas Behling]

Artofwarcentral.com offers Virtual servers currently in London, and Chicago.
They work great with game servers, and we will be opening up Virginia, and
Frankfurt this month.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Graham M
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:52 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.

  Probably 1and1?

On 07/12/2010 17:30, Drogen Viech wrote:
> A german provider?! Please tell us which one it is :O (Or me, in a 
> personal e-mail, if you don't want to advertise hosting companies in 
> here).
>
> 2010/12/7 Dominik Friedrichs:
>> Just as a note, I'm running a CS:S and TF2 on a VPS from a 
>> professional/reputable German provider, I admit there are times with 
>> lags but those are very rare. Its a great compromise for 30 Euros a 
>> month, as compared to their cheapest dedicated wich is around 80 Euros.
>> But its always a little bit of a gambling when trying out new 
>> providers, thats for sure. Good thing is, some allow you to try out a 
>> VPS for a certain time for free.
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Shane 
>> Arnold"
>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 16:35
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
>>
>>
>>> "This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and 
>>> decent hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers."
>>>
>>> And until the day every other VPS provider follows this mindset, 
>>> VPS's will always be unsuitable for the demand a high-usage game 
>>> server will put on it. It's all well and good flogging the NFO 
>>> horse, but give it a rest. A dedicated server will always outperform a
VPS equivalent of the same spec.
>>> I'd recommend simply renting a server instead of the VPS or 
>>> dedicated solution. It's a lot of investment for a game server.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/12/2010 11:27 PM, Oh Noes! wrote:
 This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and 
 decent hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers. I 
 didn't believe it was possible to do well with a virtual server 
 either, until I saw it done at nfoservers.com. We have 3 TF2 
 servers running without problems on a hyperthreaded 2 core virtual 
 server from NFO.

 - Oh Noes!
 MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
 MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ]HeLL[ 
 Nomy
 Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:15 AM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.

 Dont get a Virtual Server... all it will do is lag, that's why its 
 cheaper to get one Dont believe people or websites when they 
 say its possible to host game servers virtually... You can host it 
 virtually a laggy server if that's what you want...

 Get a Dedicated Server with good specs and use it to host your game 
 server.

 On 7 December 2010 14:51, Oh Noes!wrote:

> Setting up your server's IP address to appear as your domain can 
> be done through your name servers of your web hosting. However, if 
> you wish to run a server that doesn't use up your own resources, 
> you will need to pay for an additional host through another type 
> of company; called a game server provider. You'll have to make 
> some decisions like anon said and then make the separate purchase 
> for a hosted game server. I like http://www.nfoservers.com as 
> well; they are pricey, but they beat every other provider that 
> I've personally looked at in service, quality, and features.
>
> - Oh Noes!
> MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
> MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad 
> Ali
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:23 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: [hlds] Help.
>
>
> I am using Window XP and want to host my own game server on linux, 
> I
 rented
> a domain and it is providing me unlimited space, so i want to 
> remotely run HLDS.exe on it so that the ip address of my hlds is 
> the same as my domain and my window resources are not used and if 
> i sutdown my window the server keep on running. but i don't know 
> how to do it so please help me...
>
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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Graham M]

 Probably 1and1?

On 07/12/2010 17:30, Drogen Viech wrote:

A german provider?! Please tell us which one it is :O
(Or me, in a personal e-mail, if you don't want to advertise hosting
companies in here).

2010/12/7 Dominik Friedrichs:

Just as a note, I'm running a CS:S and TF2 on a VPS from a
professional/reputable German provider, I admit there are times with lags
but those are very rare. Its a great compromise for 30 Euros a month, as
compared to their cheapest dedicated wich is around 80 Euros.
But its always a little bit of a gambling when trying out new providers,
thats for sure. Good thing is, some allow you to try out a VPS for a certain
time for free.

- Original Message - From: "Shane Arnold"
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"

Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 16:35
Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.



"This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and decent
hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers."

And until the day every other VPS provider follows this mindset, VPS's
will always be unsuitable for the demand a high-usage game server will put
on it. It's all well and good flogging the NFO horse, but give it a rest. A
dedicated server will always outperform a VPS equivalent of the same spec.
I'd recommend simply renting a server instead of the VPS or dedicated
solution. It's a lot of investment for a game server.


On 07/12/2010 11:27 PM, Oh Noes! wrote:

This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and decent
hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers. I didn't
believe
it was possible to do well with a virtual server either, until I saw it
done
at nfoservers.com. We have 3 TF2 servers running without problems on a
hyperthreaded 2 core virtual server from NFO.

- Oh Noes!
MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ]HeLL[ Nomy
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:15 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.

Dont get a Virtual Server... all it will do is lag, that's why its
cheaper
to get one Dont believe people or websites when they say its possible
to
host game servers virtually... You can host it virtually a laggy server
if
that's what you want...

Get a Dedicated Server with good specs and use it to host your game
server.

On 7 December 2010 14:51, Oh Noes!wrote:


Setting up your server's IP address to appear as your domain can be done
through your name servers of your web hosting. However, if you wish to
run
a
server that doesn't use up your own resources, you will need to pay for
an
additional host through another type of company; called a game server
provider. You'll have to make some decisions like anon said and then
make
the separate purchase for a hosted game server. I like
http://www.nfoservers.com as well; they are pricey, but they beat every
other provider that I've personally looked at in service, quality, and
features.

- Oh Noes!
MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad Ali
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:23 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Help.


I am using Window XP and want to host my own game server on linux, I

rented

a domain and it is providing me unlimited space, so i want to remotely
run
HLDS.exe on it so that the ip address of my hlds is the same as my
domain
and my window resources are not used and if i sutdown my window the
server
keep on running. but i don't know how to do it so please help me...

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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Drogen Viech]

A german provider?! Please tell us which one it is :O
(Or me, in a personal e-mail, if you don't want to advertise hosting
companies in here).

2010/12/7 Dominik Friedrichs :
> Just as a note, I'm running a CS:S and TF2 on a VPS from a
> professional/reputable German provider, I admit there are times with lags
> but those are very rare. Its a great compromise for 30 Euros a month, as
> compared to their cheapest dedicated wich is around 80 Euros.
> But its always a little bit of a gambling when trying out new providers,
> thats for sure. Good thing is, some allow you to try out a VPS for a certain
> time for free.
>
> - Original Message - From: "Shane Arnold" 
> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 16:35
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
>
>
>> "This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and decent
>> hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers."
>>
>> And until the day every other VPS provider follows this mindset, VPS's
>> will always be unsuitable for the demand a high-usage game server will put
>> on it. It's all well and good flogging the NFO horse, but give it a rest. A
>> dedicated server will always outperform a VPS equivalent of the same spec.
>> I'd recommend simply renting a server instead of the VPS or dedicated
>> solution. It's a lot of investment for a game server.
>>
>>
>> On 07/12/2010 11:27 PM, Oh Noes! wrote:
>>>
>>> This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and decent
>>> hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers. I didn't
>>> believe
>>> it was possible to do well with a virtual server either, until I saw it
>>> done
>>> at nfoservers.com. We have 3 TF2 servers running without problems on a
>>> hyperthreaded 2 core virtual server from NFO.
>>>
>>> - Oh Noes!
>>> MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
>>> MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ]HeLL[ Nomy
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:15 AM
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
>>>
>>> Dont get a Virtual Server... all it will do is lag, that's why its
>>> cheaper
>>> to get one Dont believe people or websites when they say its possible
>>> to
>>> host game servers virtually... You can host it virtually a laggy server
>>> if
>>> that's what you want...
>>>
>>> Get a Dedicated Server with good specs and use it to host your game
>>> server.
>>>
>>> On 7 December 2010 14:51, Oh Noes!  wrote:
>>>
 Setting up your server's IP address to appear as your domain can be done
 through your name servers of your web hosting. However, if you wish to
 run
 a
 server that doesn't use up your own resources, you will need to pay for
 an
 additional host through another type of company; called a game server
 provider. You'll have to make some decisions like anon said and then
 make
 the separate purchase for a hosted game server. I like
 http://www.nfoservers.com as well; they are pricey, but they beat every
 other provider that I've personally looked at in service, quality, and
 features.

 - Oh Noes!
 MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
 MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad Ali
 Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:23 AM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds] Help.


 I am using Window XP and want to host my own game server on linux, I
>>>
>>> rented

 a domain and it is providing me unlimited space, so i want to remotely
 run
 HLDS.exe on it so that the ip address of my hlds is the same as my
 domain
 and my window resources are not used and if i sutdown my window the
 server
 keep on running. but i don't know how to do it so please help me...

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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Dominik Friedrichs]

Just as a note, I'm running a CS:S and TF2 on a VPS from a 
professional/reputable German provider, I admit there are times with lags 
but those are very rare. Its a great compromise for 30 Euros a month, as 
compared to their cheapest dedicated wich is around 80 Euros.
But its always a little bit of a gambling when trying out new providers, 
thats for sure. Good thing is, some allow you to try out a VPS for a certain 
time for free.


- Original Message - 
From: "Shane Arnold" 
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 


Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 16:35
Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.


"This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and decent 
hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers."


And until the day every other VPS provider follows this mindset, VPS's 
will always be unsuitable for the demand a high-usage game server will put 
on it. It's all well and good flogging the NFO horse, but give it a rest. 
A dedicated server will always outperform a VPS equivalent of the same 
spec. I'd recommend simply renting a server instead of the VPS or 
dedicated solution. It's a lot of investment for a game server.



On 07/12/2010 11:27 PM, Oh Noes! wrote:

This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and decent
hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers. I didn't 
believe
it was possible to do well with a virtual server either, until I saw it 
done

at nfoservers.com. We have 3 TF2 servers running without problems on a
hyperthreaded 2 core virtual server from NFO.

- Oh Noes!
MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ]HeLL[ Nomy
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:15 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.

Dont get a Virtual Server... all it will do is lag, that's why its 
cheaper
to get one Dont believe people or websites when they say its possible 
to
host game servers virtually... You can host it virtually a laggy server 
if

that's what you want...

Get a Dedicated Server with good specs and use it to host your game 
server.


On 7 December 2010 14:51, Oh Noes!  wrote:


Setting up your server's IP address to appear as your domain can be done
through your name servers of your web hosting. However, if you wish to 
run

a
server that doesn't use up your own resources, you will need to pay for 
an

additional host through another type of company; called a game server
provider. You'll have to make some decisions like anon said and then 
make

the separate purchase for a hosted game server. I like
http://www.nfoservers.com as well; they are pricey, but they beat every
other provider that I've personally looked at in service, quality, and
features.

- Oh Noes!
MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad Ali
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:23 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Help.


I am using Window XP and want to host my own game server on linux, I

rented
a domain and it is providing me unlimited space, so i want to remotely 
run
HLDS.exe on it so that the ip address of my hlds is the same as my 
domain
and my window resources are not used and if i sutdown my window the 
server

keep on running. but i don't know how to do it so please help me...

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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Oh Noes!]

I'm not certain on the exact details or where I read it, but I remember it
was a reputable source and recent; but it was tested and the results
indicated that virtualization using the Xen platform (which is what NFO
uses) amounted to about an 8% difference in performance when configured
correctly and compared to the physical hardware. So, the real question is...
is that ~10% of performance really worth the extra money for a dedicated
system? I don't have the time right now to look it back up; maybe I'll find
the source again and post it after while... cause I'm sure there's going to
be naysayers.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Shane Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:36 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.

"This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and decent
hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers."

And until the day every other VPS provider follows this mindset, VPS's will
always be unsuitable for the demand a high-usage game server will put on it.
It's all well and good flogging the NFO horse, but give it a rest. A
dedicated server will always outperform a VPS equivalent of the same spec.
I'd recommend simply renting a server instead of the VPS or dedicated
solution. It's a lot of investment for a game server.


On 07/12/2010 11:27 PM, Oh Noes! wrote:
> This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and decent
> hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers. I didn't
believe
> it was possible to do well with a virtual server either, until I saw it
done
> at nfoservers.com. We have 3 TF2 servers running without problems on a
> hyperthreaded 2 core virtual server from NFO.
>
> - Oh Noes!
> MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
> MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ]HeLL[ Nomy
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:15 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
>
> Dont get a Virtual Server... all it will do is lag, that's why its cheaper
> to get one Dont believe people or websites when they say its possible
to
> host game servers virtually... You can host it virtually a laggy server if
> that's what you want...
>
> Get a Dedicated Server with good specs and use it to host your game
server.
>
> On 7 December 2010 14:51, Oh Noes!  wrote:
>
>> Setting up your server's IP address to appear as your domain can be done
>> through your name servers of your web hosting. However, if you wish to
run
>> a
>> server that doesn't use up your own resources, you will need to pay for
an
>> additional host through another type of company; called a game server
>> provider. You'll have to make some decisions like anon said and then make
>> the separate purchase for a hosted game server. I like
>> http://www.nfoservers.com as well; they are pricey, but they beat every
>> other provider that I've personally looked at in service, quality, and
>> features.
>>
>> - Oh Noes!
>> MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
>> MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad Ali
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:23 AM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: [hlds] Help.
>>
>>
>> I am using Window XP and want to host my own game server on linux, I
> rented
>> a domain and it is providing me unlimited space, so i want to remotely
run
>> HLDS.exe on it so that the ip address of my hlds is the same as my domain
>> and my window resources are not used and if i sutdown my window the
server
>> keep on running. but i don't know how to do it so please help me...
>>
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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Shane Arnold]

"This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and decent hardware, 
while giving dedicated resources to the servers."

And until the day every other VPS provider follows this mindset, VPS's will 
always be unsuitable for the demand a high-usage game server will put on it. 
It's all well and good flogging the NFO horse, but give it a rest. A dedicated 
server will always outperform a VPS equivalent of the same spec. I'd recommend 
simply renting a server instead of the VPS or dedicated solution. It's a lot of 
investment for a game server.


On 07/12/2010 11:27 PM, Oh Noes! wrote:

This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and decent
hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers. I didn't believe
it was possible to do well with a virtual server either, until I saw it done
at nfoservers.com. We have 3 TF2 servers running without problems on a
hyperthreaded 2 core virtual server from NFO.

- Oh Noes!
MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ]HeLL[ Nomy
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:15 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.

Dont get a Virtual Server... all it will do is lag, that's why its cheaper
to get one Dont believe people or websites when they say its possible to
host game servers virtually... You can host it virtually a laggy server if
that's what you want...

Get a Dedicated Server with good specs and use it to host your game server.

On 7 December 2010 14:51, Oh Noes!  wrote:


Setting up your server's IP address to appear as your domain can be done
through your name servers of your web hosting. However, if you wish to run
a
server that doesn't use up your own resources, you will need to pay for an
additional host through another type of company; called a game server
provider. You'll have to make some decisions like anon said and then make
the separate purchase for a hosted game server. I like
http://www.nfoservers.com as well; they are pricey, but they beat every
other provider that I've personally looked at in service, quality, and
features.

- Oh Noes!
MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad Ali
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:23 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Help.


I am using Window XP and want to host my own game server on linux, I

rented

a domain and it is providing me unlimited space, so i want to remotely run
HLDS.exe on it so that the ip address of my hlds is the same as my domain
and my window resources are not used and if i sutdown my window the server
keep on running. but i don't know how to do it so please help me...

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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Oh Noes!]

This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and decent
hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers. I didn't believe
it was possible to do well with a virtual server either, until I saw it done
at nfoservers.com. We have 3 TF2 servers running without problems on a
hyperthreaded 2 core virtual server from NFO.

- Oh Noes!
MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ]HeLL[ Nomy
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:15 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.

Dont get a Virtual Server... all it will do is lag, that's why its cheaper
to get one Dont believe people or websites when they say its possible to
host game servers virtually... You can host it virtually a laggy server if
that's what you want...

Get a Dedicated Server with good specs and use it to host your game server.

On 7 December 2010 14:51, Oh Noes!  wrote:

> Setting up your server's IP address to appear as your domain can be done
> through your name servers of your web hosting. However, if you wish to run
> a
> server that doesn't use up your own resources, you will need to pay for an
> additional host through another type of company; called a game server
> provider. You'll have to make some decisions like anon said and then make
> the separate purchase for a hosted game server. I like
> http://www.nfoservers.com as well; they are pricey, but they beat every
> other provider that I've personally looked at in service, quality, and
> features.
>
> - Oh Noes!
> MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
> MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad Ali
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:23 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: [hlds] Help.
>
>
> I am using Window XP and want to host my own game server on linux, I
rented
> a domain and it is providing me unlimited space, so i want to remotely run
> HLDS.exe on it so that the ip address of my hlds is the same as my domain
> and my window resources are not used and if i sutdown my window the server
> keep on running. but i don't know how to do it so please help me...
>
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Re: [hlds] Help.

[]HeLL[ Nomy]

Dont get a Virtual Server... all it will do is lag, that's why its cheaper
to get one Dont believe people or websites when they say its possible to
host game servers virtually... You can host it virtually a laggy server if
that's what you want...

Get a Dedicated Server with good specs and use it to host your game server.

On 7 December 2010 14:51, Oh Noes!  wrote:

> Setting up your server's IP address to appear as your domain can be done
> through your name servers of your web hosting. However, if you wish to run
> a
> server that doesn't use up your own resources, you will need to pay for an
> additional host through another type of company; called a game server
> provider. You'll have to make some decisions like anon said and then make
> the separate purchase for a hosted game server. I like
> http://www.nfoservers.com as well; they are pricey, but they beat every
> other provider that I've personally looked at in service, quality, and
> features.
>
> - Oh Noes!
> MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
> MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad Ali
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:23 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: [hlds] Help.
>
>
> I am using Window XP and want to host my own game server on linux, I rented
> a domain and it is providing me unlimited space, so i want to remotely run
> HLDS.exe on it so that the ip address of my hlds is the same as my domain
> and my window resources are not used and if i sutdown my window the server
> keep on running. but i don't know how to do it so please help me...
>
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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Oh Noes!]

Setting up your server's IP address to appear as your domain can be done
through your name servers of your web hosting. However, if you wish to run a
server that doesn't use up your own resources, you will need to pay for an
additional host through another type of company; called a game server
provider. You'll have to make some decisions like anon said and then make
the separate purchase for a hosted game server. I like
http://www.nfoservers.com as well; they are pricey, but they beat every
other provider that I've personally looked at in service, quality, and
features.

- Oh Noes!
MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin
MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Muhammad Ali
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:23 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Help.


I am using Window XP and want to host my own game server on linux, I rented
a domain and it is providing me unlimited space, so i want to remotely run
HLDS.exe on it so that the ip address of my hlds is the same as my domain
and my window resources are not used and if i sutdown my window the server
keep on running. but i don't know how to do it so please help me...

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Re: [hlds] Help.

[[»Twilight«]]

07.12.2010 15:42, anon4...@comcast.net wrote:

It's very likely that English isn't his first language so no need to demean him


Neither mine. I didn't mean  his spelling.

07.12.2010 15:42, anon4...@comcast.net wrote:

Anyway, to add a little more to the previous response



You are my hero now. Or you have too much free time.

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Re: [hlds] Help.

[anon4321]

It's very likely that English isn't his first language so no need to demean him.

Anyway, to add a little more to the previous response, most web hosting 
accounts don't allow you to run processes such as a game server.   Typically 
they only give you the ability to use a tool call cron to periodically execute 
a script and often the script will be killed if it runs longer than 30 seconds 
or uses more than a set amount of CPU time.

Bascially, when you rent a host, it can be one of the following types:
- Web hosting: only allows you to host a web site/html files
- Game server: a single game server instance usually rented on a per slot basis 
(like say $1-2 US per slot).  You are typically prevented from changing the 
start up command line of the game server and the core executables.   However, 
the game server usually requires very little administration as the hosting 
company manages most of the difficult setup like the OS install and game server 
software.
- Virtual dedicated server: Usually rented on a per core basis ($30-50 US).  
One core might allow you to run 1 or two game servers.   Typically, you have 
full control over how the server is used and what you run on it much like a PC. 
  The servers are virtually sliced from powerful hardware like a quad core xeon 
based host which may provide 4-8 cores for 4-8 virtual dedicated servers.
- Dedicated server: like a virtual dedicated server but you are renting the 
entire host and it's real hardware (not virtualized).   This is typical $150 US 
or more.

For example, see http://www.nfoservers.com as they offer all of the above.

So if you have just a web hosting account, you won't be able to run a game 
server.

- Original Message -
From: [ﾻTwilightﾫ] 
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 

Sent: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 11:32:51 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: [hlds] Help.
Try to finish school first
07.12.2010 13:22, Muhammad Ali wrote:
> I am using Window XP and want to host my own game server on linux, I rented a 
> domain and it is providing me unlimited space, so i want to remotely run 
> HLDS.exe on it so that the ip address of my hlds is the same as my domain and 
> my window resources are not used and if i sutdown my window the server keep 
> on running. but i don't know how to do it so please help me... 
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Re: [hlds] Help.

[[�Twilight�]]

Try to finish school first

07.12.2010 13:22, Muhammad Ali wrote:

I am using Window XP and want to host my own game server on linux, I rented a 
domain and it is providing me unlimited space, so i want to remotely run 
HLDS.exe on it so that the ip address of my hlds is the same as my domain and 
my window resources are not used and if i sutdown my window the server keep on 
running. but i don't know how to do it so please help me... 

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Re: [hlds] Help.

[Karl Labrador]

So you want to host an instance of HLDS on your webhosting account? Not
possible.

On 7 December 2010 12:22, Muhammad Ali  wrote:

>
> I am using Window XP and want to host my own game server on linux, I rented
> a domain and it is providing me unlimited space, so i want to remotely run
> HLDS.exe on it so that the ip address of my hlds is the same as my domain
> and my window resources are not used and if i sutdown my window the server
> keep on running. but i don't know how to do it so please help me...
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[hlds] Help.

[Muhammad Ali]

I am using Window XP and want to host my own game server on linux, I rented a 
domain and it is providing me unlimited space, so i want to remotely run 
HLDS.exe on it so that the ip address of my hlds is the same as my domain and 
my window resources are not used and if i sutdown my window the server keep on 
running. but i don't know how to do it so please help me... 
  
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