Re[4]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-06 Thread Albert
It fixed ours.
Thanks for the fix Alfred.

Albert.

AR One of the 3 servers has an abnormally large incoming bandwdith. We have
AR taken it offline until we can determine and remove the source of the
AR packets. This should fix the servers missing from the list problem.

AR - Alfred

AR Alfred Reynolds wrote:
 That packet trace is fine, it is just showing you that our firewall
 drops ICMP packets (for security reasons). You get multiple entries
 with
 the same IP as the traceroute program just keeps sending more ICMP
 packets with longer ttl's that terminate at the same point.

 - alfred

 Ian mu wrote:
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really
 hard to pull anything out but results are really odd. First part
 varies depending where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net
 seems odd.

 IP 16  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)
 138.571ms 17  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net
 (207.173.69.238)  138.280 ms !X
 18  * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)
 314.546 ms !X * 19  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net
 (207.173.69.238)  138.652 ms !X * * 20
 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)  138.419 ms
 !X *  142.661 ms !X

 Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from,
 also eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to vary
 too much to have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to a
 general area for any routing problems.

 I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with
 packetloss, route changes etc.


 On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid
 addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and
 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are
 subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days
 to debug problems).

 Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server
 currently running?

 The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP
 blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try
 using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a
 particular hop is dropping your packets.

 - Alfred

 Affordablegameservers.com wrote:
 I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with
 the dc and they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont
 reveal any blocking on my or their end. Im stumped if its something
 on my boxes. Can we start pooling out knowledge?

 Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the
 nonshowing servers are using and a list of the server that do show.
 Perhaps there is some connection or none at all. But the absense of
 any hard data to be discounted or included will not help us/valve.

 Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port
 too you never know:

 207.173.177.11:27011
 69.28.151.178:27011

 Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all:

 69.28.151.162:27011
 69.25.142.6:27010

 I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not
 showing up. Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of
 ip's. I go from 209.xxx down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for
 are 205.xxx. I have deleted the files according to the faq here:



AR http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std
 _adp



AR .php?p_faqid=165p_created=1093390525p_sid=QpD2jjWhp_lva=p_sp=cF9zcmN
 oPTE



AR mcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0
 wJnB



AR fcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9
 zZWF
 yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**p_li=p_topview=1

 I have the servers set to the correct region browser is configured
 correctly no filteres etc.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:53 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
 Problem ?


 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and
 traffic has dropped right off them :(. Any news on this?


 On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remember that they are Pacific time in the States.  So it's not
 even the wee hours of early Monday morning yet there ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM
 To: saturndeathbaboon
 Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
 Problem ?

 Exactly the same problem here.
 We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the
 problem is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend
 of Steam introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist.
 No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our

Re: Re[4]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-06 Thread Ian mu
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Hiya, just confirming 3 of ours I restarted last night are now showing as
well, so looks like its worked for us :).

Just wanted to say thanks as well Alfred, always so refreshing to have
decent direct feedback.


On 12/6/05, Albert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It fixed ours.
 Thanks for the fix Alfred.

 Albert.

 AR One of the 3 servers has an abnormally large incoming bandwdith. We
 have
 AR taken it offline until we can determine and remove the source of the
 AR packets. This should fix the servers missing from the list problem.

 AR - Alfred

 AR Alfred Reynolds wrote:
  That packet trace is fine, it is just showing you that our firewall
  drops ICMP packets (for security reasons). You get multiple entries
  with
  the same IP as the traceroute program just keeps sending more ICMP
  packets with longer ttl's that terminate at the same point.
 
  - alfred
 
  Ian mu wrote:
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really
  hard to pull anything out but results are really odd. First part
  varies depending where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net
  seems odd.
 
  IP 16  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)
  138.571ms 17  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net
  (207.173.69.238)  138.280 ms !X
  18  * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)
  314.546 ms !X * 19  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net
  (207.173.69.238)  138.652 ms !X * * 20
  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)  138.419 ms
  !X *  142.661 ms !X
 
  Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from,
  also eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to vary
  too much to have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to a
  general area for any routing problems.
 
  I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with
  packetloss, route changes etc.
 
 
  On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid
  addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and
  69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are
  subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days
  to debug problems).
 
  Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server
  currently running?
 
  The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP
  blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try
  using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a
  particular hop is dropping your packets.
 
  - Alfred
 
  Affordablegameservers.com wrote:
  I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with
  the dc and they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont
  reveal any blocking on my or their end. Im stumped if its something
  on my boxes. Can we start pooling out knowledge?
 
  Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the
  nonshowing servers are using and a list of the server that do show.
  Perhaps there is some connection or none at all. But the absense of
  any hard data to be discounted or included will not help us/valve.
 
  Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port
  too you never know:
 
  207.173.177.11:27011
  69.28.151.178:27011
 
  Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all:
 
  69.28.151.162:27011
  69.25.142.6:27010
 
  I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not
  showing up. Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of
  ip's. I go from 209.xxx down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for
  are 205.xxx. I have deleted the files according to the faq here:
 
 
 
 AR
 http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std
  _adp
 
 
 
 AR
 .php?p_faqid=165p_created=1093390525p_sid=QpD2jjWhp_lva=p_sp=cF9zcmN
  oPTE
 
 
 
 AR
 mcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0
  wJnB
 
 
 
 AR
 fcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9
  zZWF
  yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**p_li=p_topview=1
 
  I have the servers set to the correct region browser is configured
  correctly no filteres etc.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu
  Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:53 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
  Problem ?
 
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and
  traffic has dropped right off them :(. Any news on this?
 
 
  On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Remember that they are Pacific time in the States.  So it's not
  even the wee hours of early Monday morning yet there ...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Ian mu
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Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and traffic has
dropped right off them :(. Any news on this?


On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remember that they are Pacific time in the States.  So it's not even the
 wee
 hours of early Monday morning yet there ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM
 To: saturndeathbaboon
 Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

 Exactly the same problem here.
 We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the problem
 is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend of Steam
 introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist.
 No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our servers.

 This Steam-error  is starting to cost us money.
 What is happening Valve ?
 It has been 4 days now since this happened: it's time to react
 gentlemen.

 Greetingz, Albert van Rennes (Holland)

 s I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December 1st, my
 s DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I have no idea
 s why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had the same problem on
 s the same date.

 s Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then?

 s leo bounds wrote:

 Gary,
 
 Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or
 do you have an entire box that has none showing in
 steam ?
 
 I have another win server box in the same rack that
 shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows
 none.
  I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been
 running steam based servers for about 2 years and
 never seen this one before.
 
 Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this
 problem.
 LB
 
 Message: 3
 Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500
 To:
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 
 Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists
 since about 2
 days ago. At first I thought it was one of my
 access-lists on my 4506
 (or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only
 like a few
 scattered servers.
 
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Re[4]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Albert
Over here our servers are still invisible too.
So I guess Valve didn't fix it yet.
Traffic has died on our servers, it is time for a fix gentlemen.

Im --
Im [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Im Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and traffic has
Im dropped right off them :(. Any news on this?


Im On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remember that they are Pacific time in the States.  So it's not even the
 wee
 hours of early Monday morning yet there ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM
 To: saturndeathbaboon
 Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

 Exactly the same problem here.
 We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the problem
 is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend of Steam
 introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist.
 No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our servers.

 This Steam-error  is starting to cost us money.
 What is happening Valve ?
 It has been 4 days now since this happened: it's time to react
 gentlemen.

 Greetingz, Albert van Rennes (Holland)

 s I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December 1st, my
 s DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I have no idea
 s why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had the same problem on
 s the same date.

 s Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then?

 s leo bounds wrote:

 Gary,
 
 Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or
 do you have an entire box that has none showing in
 steam ?
 
 I have another win server box in the same rack that
 shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows
 none.
  I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been
 running steam based servers for about 2 years and
 never seen this one before.
 
 Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this
 problem.
 LB
 
 Message: 3
 Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500
 To:
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 
 Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists
 since about 2
 days ago. At first I thought it was one of my
 access-lists on my 4506
 (or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only
 like a few
 scattered servers.
 
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RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Affordablegameservers.com
I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with the dc and
they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont reveal any blocking
on my or their end. Im stumped if its something on my boxes. Can we start
pooling out knowledge?

Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the nonshowing
servers are using and a list of the server that do show. Perhaps there is
some connection or none at all. But the absense of any hard data to be
discounted or included will not help us/valve.

Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port too you
never know:

207.173.177.11:27011
69.28.151.178:27011

Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all:

69.28.151.162:27011
69.25.142.6:27010

I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not showing up.
Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of ip's. I go from 209.xxx
down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for are 205.xxx. I have deleted the
files according to the faq here:
http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp
.php?p_faqid=165p_created=1093390525p_sid=QpD2jjWhp_lva=p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTE
mcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0wJnB
fcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9zZWF
yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**p_li=p_topview=1

I have the servers set to the correct region browser is configured correctly
no filteres etc.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:53 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem
?


--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and traffic has
dropped right off them :(. Any news on this?


On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remember that they are Pacific time in the States.  So it's not even the
 wee
 hours of early Monday morning yet there ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM
 To: saturndeathbaboon
 Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

 Exactly the same problem here.
 We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the problem
 is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend of Steam
 introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist.
 No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our servers.

 This Steam-error  is starting to cost us money.
 What is happening Valve ?
 It has been 4 days now since this happened: it's time to react
 gentlemen.

 Greetingz, Albert van Rennes (Holland)

 s I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December 1st, my
 s DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I have no idea
 s why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had the same problem on
 s the same date.

 s Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then?

 s leo bounds wrote:

 Gary,
 
 Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or
 do you have an entire box that has none showing in
 steam ?
 
 I have another win server box in the same rack that
 shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows
 none.
  I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been
 running steam based servers for about 2 years and
 never seen this one before.
 
 Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this
 problem.
 LB
 
 Message: 3
 Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500
 To:
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 
 Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists
 since about 2
 days ago. At first I thought it was one of my
 access-lists on my 4506
 (or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only
 like a few
 scattered servers.
 
 /ges
 
 
 
 
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RE: Re[4]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Affordablegameservers.com
One additional thing I can see them on all seeing eye and game monitor has
them

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Albert
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:08 PM
To: Ian mu
Subject: Re[4]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?


Over here our servers are still invisible too.
So I guess Valve didn't fix it yet.
Traffic has died on our servers, it is time for a fix gentlemen.

Im --
Im [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Im Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and traffic
has
Im dropped right off them :(. Any news on this?


Im On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remember that they are Pacific time in the States.  So it's not even the
 wee
 hours of early Monday morning yet there ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM
 To: saturndeathbaboon
 Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

 Exactly the same problem here.
 We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the problem
 is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend of Steam
 introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist.
 No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our servers.

 This Steam-error  is starting to cost us money.
 What is happening Valve ?
 It has been 4 days now since this happened: it's time to react
 gentlemen.

 Greetingz, Albert van Rennes (Holland)

 s I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December 1st, my
 s DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I have no idea
 s why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had the same problem
on
 s the same date.

 s Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then?

 s leo bounds wrote:

 Gary,
 
 Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or
 do you have an entire box that has none showing in
 steam ?
 
 I have another win server box in the same rack that
 shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows
 none.
  I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been
 running steam based servers for about 2 years and
 never seen this one before.
 
 Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this
 problem.
 LB
 
 Message: 3
 Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500
 To:
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 
 Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists
 since about 2
 days ago. At first I thought it was one of my
 access-lists on my 4506
 (or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only
 like a few
 scattered servers.
 
 /ges
 
 
 
 
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 Just $16.99/mo. or less.
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Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Ian mu
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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Wasn't even aware of the other master servers! (Although not paid much
attention before). Ones I've looked at so far use

207.173.177.11:27011
69.28.151.178:27011

and have a problem.

Servers are spread over 3 dual xeons running 2*win2k3 and linux so doesn't
seem to be o.s related either. Have tried a few things like forcing the IP
by downloading 2nd IP addresses on the box, but no difference. Servers say
they are connected to master server fine and show sv_secure 1 as well if it
helps (just to indicate connection looks fine, although not sure if it uses
same ports). Also have region set, it does look like there are some chunks
of IP ranges missing, but that could just be me not remembering correctly
(no filters either).

On 12/5/05, Affordablegameservers.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with the dc
 and
 they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont reveal any blocking
 on my or their end. Im stumped if its something on my boxes. Can we start
 pooling out knowledge?

 Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the nonshowing
 servers are using and a list of the server that do show. Perhaps there is
 some connection or none at all. But the absense of any hard data to be
 discounted or included will not help us/valve.

 Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port too you
 never know:

 207.173.177.11:27011
 69.28.151.178:27011

 Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all:

 69.28.151.162:27011
 69.25.142.6:27010

 I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not showing
 up.
 Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of ip's. I go from
 209.xxx
 down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for are 205.xxx. I have deleted
 the
 files according to the faq here:

 http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp

 .php?p_faqid=165p_created=1093390525p_sid=QpD2jjWhp_lva=p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTE

 mcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0wJnB

 fcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9zZWF
 yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**p_li=p_topview=1

 I have the servers set to the correct region browser is configured
 correctly
 no filteres etc.




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Re[4]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Albert
Our main game-server IP = 137.224.223.124 port 27015

Our gameserver connects to the following master servers and is not
shown in the masterlist:
  69.28.151.162:27011
  207.173.177.11:27011

Albert.



Ac I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with the dc and
Ac they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont reveal any blocking
Ac on my or their end. Im stumped if its something on my boxes. Can we start
Ac pooling out knowledge?

Ac Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the nonshowing
Ac servers are using and a list of the server that do show. Perhaps there is
Ac some connection or none at all. But the absense of any hard data to be
Ac discounted or included will not help us/valve.

Ac Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port too you
Ac never know:

Ac 207.173.177.11:27011
Ac 69.28.151.178:27011

Ac Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all:

Ac 69.28.151.162:27011
Ac 69.25.142.6:27010

Ac I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not showing up.
Ac Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of ip's. I go from 209.xxx
Ac down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for are 205.xxx. I have deleted the
Ac files according to the faq here:
Ac http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp
Ac .php?p_faqid=165p_created=1093390525p_sid=QpD2jjWhp_lva=p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTE
Ac mcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0wJnB
Ac fcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9zZWF
Ac yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**p_li=p_topview=1

Ac I have the servers set to the correct region browser is configured correctly
Ac no filteres etc.



Ac -Original Message-
Ac From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu
Ac Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:53 PM
Ac To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Ac Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem
Ac ?


Ac --
Ac [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Ac Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and traffic has
Ac dropped right off them :(. Any news on this?


Ac On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remember that they are Pacific time in the States.  So it's not even the
 wee
 hours of early Monday morning yet there ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM
 To: saturndeathbaboon
 Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

 Exactly the same problem here.
 We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the problem
 is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend of Steam
 introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist.
 No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our servers.

 This Steam-error  is starting to cost us money.
 What is happening Valve ?
 It has been 4 days now since this happened: it's time to react
 gentlemen.

 Greetingz, Albert van Rennes (Holland)

 s I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December 1st, my
 s DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I have no idea
 s why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had the same problem on
 s the same date.

 s Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then?

 s leo bounds wrote:

 Gary,
 
 Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or
 do you have an entire box that has none showing in
 steam ?
 
 I have another win server box in the same rack that
 shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows
 none.
  I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been
 running steam based servers for about 2 years and
 never seen this one before.
 
 Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this
 problem.
 LB
 
 Message: 3
 Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500
 To:
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 
 Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists
 since about 2
 days ago. At first I thought it was one of my
 access-lists on my 4506
 (or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only
 like a few
 scattered servers.
 
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RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Alfred Reynolds
69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid
addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and
69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are subject
to change but you can use them for the next couple of days to debug
problems).

Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server
currently running?

The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP
blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try
using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a
particular hop is dropping your packets.

- Alfred

Affordablegameservers.com wrote:
 I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with the
 dc and
 they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont reveal any
 blocking
 on my or their end. Im stumped if its something on my boxes. Can we
 start
 pooling out knowledge?

 Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the nonshowing
 servers are using and a list of the server that do show. Perhaps
 there is
 some connection or none at all. But the absense of any hard data to be
 discounted or included will not help us/valve.

 Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port too
 you
 never know:

 207.173.177.11:27011
 69.28.151.178:27011

 Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all:

 69.28.151.162:27011
 69.25.142.6:27010

 I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not
 showing up.
 Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of ip's. I go from
 209.xxx
 down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for are 205.xxx. I have
 deleted the
 files according to the faq here:

http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std
_adp

.php?p_faqid=165p_created=1093390525p_sid=QpD2jjWhp_lva=p_sp=cF9zcmN
oPTE

mcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0
wJnB

fcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9
zZWF
 yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**p_li=p_topview=1

 I have the servers set to the correct region browser is configured
 correctly
 no filteres etc.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:53 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
 Problem ?


 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and
 traffic has dropped right off them :(. Any news on this?


 On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remember that they are Pacific time in the States.  So it's not even
 the wee hours of early Monday morning yet there ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM
 To: saturndeathbaboon
 Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

 Exactly the same problem here.
 We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the problem
 is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend of Steam
 introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist.
 No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our
 servers.

 This Steam-error  is starting to cost us money.
 What is happening Valve ?
 It has been 4 days now since this happened: it's time to react
 gentlemen.

 Greetingz, Albert van Rennes (Holland)

 s I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December
 1st, my s DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I
 have no idea s why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had
 the same problem on s the same date.

 s Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then?

 s leo bounds wrote:

 Gary,

 Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or
 do you have an entire box that has none showing in
 steam ?

 I have another win server box in the same rack that
 shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows
 none.
 I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been
 running steam based servers for about 2 years and
 never seen this one before.

 Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this
 problem.
 LB

 Message: 3
 Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500
 To:
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

 Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists
 since about 2
 days ago. At first I thought it was one of my
 access-lists on my 4506
 (or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only
 like a few
 scattered servers.

 /ges




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Re[4]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Albert
I have our main server running now Alfred: 137.224.223.124:27015
Thanks for looking into this.

AR 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid
AR addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and
AR 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are subject
AR to change but you can use them for the next couple of days to debug
AR problems).

AR Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server
AR currently running?

AR The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP
AR blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try
AR using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a
AR particular hop is dropping your packets.

AR - Alfred

AR Affordablegameservers.com wrote:
 I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with the
 dc and
 they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont reveal any
 blocking
 on my or their end. Im stumped if its something on my boxes. Can we
 start
 pooling out knowledge?

 Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the nonshowing
 servers are using and a list of the server that do show. Perhaps
 there is
 some connection or none at all. But the absense of any hard data to be
 discounted or included will not help us/valve.

 Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port too
 you
 never know:

 207.173.177.11:27011
 69.28.151.178:27011

 Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all:

 69.28.151.162:27011
 69.25.142.6:27010

 I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not
 showing up.
 Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of ip's. I go from
 209.xxx
 down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for are 205.xxx. I have
 deleted the
 files according to the faq here:

AR http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std
AR _adp

AR .php?p_faqid=165p_created=1093390525p_sid=QpD2jjWhp_lva=p_sp=cF9zcmN
AR oPTE

AR mcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0
AR wJnB

AR fcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9
AR zZWF
 yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**p_li=p_topview=1

 I have the servers set to the correct region browser is configured
 correctly
 no filteres etc.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:53 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
 Problem ?


 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and
 traffic has dropped right off them :(. Any news on this?


 On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remember that they are Pacific time in the States.  So it's not even
 the wee hours of early Monday morning yet there ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM
 To: saturndeathbaboon
 Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

 Exactly the same problem here.
 We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the problem
 is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend of Steam
 introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist.
 No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our
 servers.

 This Steam-error  is starting to cost us money.
 What is happening Valve ?
 It has been 4 days now since this happened: it's time to react
 gentlemen.

 Greetingz, Albert van Rennes (Holland)

 s I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December
 1st, my s DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I
 have no idea s why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had
 the same problem on s the same date.

 s Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then?

 s leo bounds wrote:

 Gary,

 Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or
 do you have an entire box that has none showing in
 steam ?

 I have another win server box in the same rack that
 shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows
 none.
 I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been
 running steam based servers for about 2 years and
 never seen this one before.

 Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this
 problem.
 LB

 Message: 3
 Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500
 To:
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

 Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists
 since about 2
 days ago. At first I thought it was one of my
 access-lists on my 4506
 (or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only
 like a few
 scattered servers.

 /ges




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Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Ian mu
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really hard to
pull anything out but results are really odd. First part varies depending
where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net seems odd.

IP 16  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)  138.571ms
17  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)  138.280 ms
!X
18  * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)  314.546 ms !X
*
19  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)  138.652 ms !X *
*
20  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)  138.419 ms !X
*  142.661 ms !X

Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from, also
eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to vary too much to
have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to a general area for any
routing problems.

I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with packetloss,
route changes etc.


On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid
 addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and
 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are subject
 to change but you can use them for the next couple of days to debug
 problems).

 Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server
 currently running?

 The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP
 blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try
 using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a
 particular hop is dropping your packets.

 - Alfred

 Affordablegameservers.com wrote:
  I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with the
  dc and
  they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont reveal any
  blocking
  on my or their end. Im stumped if its something on my boxes. Can we
  start
  pooling out knowledge?
 
  Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the nonshowing
  servers are using and a list of the server that do show. Perhaps
  there is
  some connection or none at all. But the absense of any hard data to be
  discounted or included will not help us/valve.
 
  Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port too
  you
  never know:
 
  207.173.177.11:27011
  69.28.151.178:27011
 
  Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all:
 
  69.28.151.162:27011
  69.25.142.6:27010
 
  I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not
  showing up.
  Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of ip's. I go from
  209.xxx
  down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for are 205.xxx. I have
  deleted the
  files according to the faq here:
 
 http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std
 _adp
 
 .php?p_faqid=165p_created=1093390525p_sid=QpD2jjWhp_lva=p_sp=cF9zcmN
 oPTE
 
 mcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0
 wJnB
 
 fcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9
 zZWF
  yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**p_li=p_topview=1
 
  I have the servers set to the correct region browser is configured
  correctly
  no filteres etc.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu
  Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:53 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
  Problem ?
 
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and
  traffic has dropped right off them :(. Any news on this?
 
 
  On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Remember that they are Pacific time in the States.  So it's not even
  the wee hours of early Monday morning yet there ...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert
  Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM
  To: saturndeathbaboon
  Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
 
  Exactly the same problem here.
  We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the problem
  is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend of Steam
  introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist.
  No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our
  servers.
 
  This Steam-error  is starting to cost us money.
  What is happening Valve ?
  It has been 4 days now since this happened: it's time to react
  gentlemen.
 
  Greetingz, Albert van Rennes (Holland)
 
  s I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December
  1st, my s DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I
  have no idea s why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had
  the same problem on s the same date.
 
  s Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then?
 
  s leo bounds wrote:
 
  Gary

RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Affordablegameservers.com
Here are 3 traces from the server the game in question is
205.234.209.26:27015 Seems the first one is reporting an issue with routing.
Hope this helps.

Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790]
(C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administratortracert 207.173.177.11

Tracing route to hlmaster1.hlauth.net [207.173.177.11]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1 1 ms1 ms1 ms  205.234.209.1
  21 ms1 ms1 ms  unknown.ord.scnet.net [205.234.205.73]
  31 ms1 ms1 ms  so2-0-0-109.j1.ord.scnet.net [64.202.110.82]
  41 ms1 ms1 ms  chicago-ibx.eli.net [206.223.119.46]
  51 ms1 ms1 ms  ge-4-1-0--0.cr01.chcg.eli.net
[207.173.115.137]

  6 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms  so-0-0-0--0.cr02.mpls.eli.net
[207.173.115.234]

  7 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms  so-3-0-0--0.cr01.mpls.eli.net
[207.173.114.185]

  859 ms59 ms58 ms  so-0-0-0--0.cr02.tkwl.eli.net
[207.173.115.165]

  959 ms60 ms60 ms  p5-0-0.gw02.bllv.eli.net [207.173.115.90]
 1060 ms60 ms60 ms  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net
[207.173.
69.238]
 11  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net [207.173.69.238]  reports:
Destinati  **  routing issue?
on net unreachable.

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator


Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790]
(C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administratortracert 69.28.151.178

Tracing route to CS37_SJC1 [69.28.151.178]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  11 ms1 ms1 ms  205.234.209.1
  21 ms 1 ms1 ms  unknown.ord.scnet.net [205.234.205.73]
  31 ms1 ms1 ms  so2-0-0-109.j1.ord.scnet.net [64.202.110.82]
  425 ms25 ms25 ms  0.so-2-1-0.cr1.iad1.us.nlayer.net
[69.22.142.102
]
  522 ms21 ms21 ms  ae0-14.was10.ip.tiscali.net [69.31.30.18]
  6   105 ms   104 ms   105 ms  pos-7-5-0.ams11.ip.tiscali.net
[213.200.80.17]
  7   103 ms   103 ms   102 ms  llnw-gw-ams.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.75.50]
  8   107 ms   107 ms   107 ms  ag1-6-1.ar1.ams.llnw.net [68.142.88.218]
  9   127 ms   123 ms   117 ms  so1-5-1.ar1.lga.llnw.net [69.28.172.161]
 10   108 ms   108 ms   108 ms  so1-5-1.ar1.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.237]
 11   167 ms   168 ms   167 ms  so1-15-1.ar1.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.172.233]
 12   161 ms   161 ms   161 ms  agg1-31.fr1.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.148.217]
 13   161 ms   162 ms   161 ms  CS37_SJC1 [69.28.151.178]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator

Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790]
(C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administratortracert 69.28.151.162

Tracing route to VALVE-SVR-9 [69.28.151.162]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  11 ms1 ms1 ms  205.234.209.1
  254 ms1 ms15 ms  unknown.ord.scnet.net [205.234.205.73]
  31 ms1 ms1 ms  so2-0-0-109.j1.ord.scnet.net [64.202.110.82]
  425 ms25 ms25 ms  0.so-2-1-0.cr1.iad1.us.nlayer.net
[69.22.142.102
]
  522 ms21 ms21 ms  ae0-14.was10.ip.tiscali.net [69.31.30.18]
  6   105 ms   104 ms   104 ms  pos-7-5-0.ams11.ip.tiscali.net
[213.200.80.17]
  7   103 ms   103 ms   102 ms  llnw-gw-ams.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.75.50]
  8   109 ms   107 ms   107 ms  ag1-6-1.ar1.ams.llnw.net [68.142.88.218]
  9   114 ms   113 ms   116 ms  so1-5-1.ar1.lga.llnw.net [69.28.172.161]
 10   109 ms   108 ms   108 ms  so1-5-1.ar1.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.237]
 11   170 ms   167 ms   169 ms  so1-15-1.ar1.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.172.233]
 12   161 ms   161 ms   161 ms  agg1-31.fr1.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.148.217]
 13   161 ms   161 ms   161 ms  VALVE-SVR-9 [69.28.151.162]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:56 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Cc: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem
?


69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid
addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and
69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are subject
to change but you can use them for the next couple of days to debug
problems).

Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server
currently running?

The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP
blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try
using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a
particular hop is dropping your packets.

- Alfred

Affordablegameservers.com wrote:
 I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with the
 dc and
 they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont reveal any
 blocking
 on my or their end. Im stumped if its something on my boxes. Can we
 start
 pooling out knowledge?

 Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the nonshowing
 servers are using

RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Gary

I know you have filters setup to protect your infrastructure, but:

To: 207.173.177.11
  9 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) [AS
23352] 72 msec 60 msec 64 msec
 10 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) [AS
23352] !A  !A  !A

69.28.151.178
  5 pos-7-5-0.ams11.ip.tiscali.net (213.200.80.17) [AS 23352] 108
msec 104 msec 104 msec
  6  *  *  *

I don't have any routing problems, after doing some bgp
investigation, still half of my servers are having issues listing.
Seems sporadic, though. Some will list and some just 'fall off'.

/ges

At 03:56 PM 12/5/2005, Alfred Reynolds wrote:

69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid
addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and
69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are subject
to change but you can use them for the next couple of days to debug
problems).

Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server
currently running?

The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP
blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try
using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a
particular hop is dropping your packets.

- Alfred




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RE: [hlds_linux] RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Alfred Reynolds
The 207.173.177.11 trace is good. The 69.28.151.178 is bad, you aren't
even hitting the backbone of the provider for that machine (Limelight
networks, llnw.net). I CANNOT trace to 213.200.80.17, my trace looks
like:


 7  tbr2-cl11.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.10.61)  69.287 ms  69.861 ms
69.333 ms
 8  tbr1-cl22.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.9.133)  70.217 ms  244.659 ms
230.508 ms
 9  tbr1-cl14.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.122.10.1)  169.846 ms  70.712 ms
73.075 ms
10  12.122.82.133 (12.122.82.133)  68.621 ms  69.195 ms  70.380 ms
11  ge-2-1-2.nyc33.ip.tiscali.net (12.118.94.46)  67.381 ms  66.700 ms
66.651 ms


Looks like tiscali.net might have a routing problem?

- Alfred

Gary wrote:
 I know you have filters setup to protect your infrastructure, but:

 To: 207.173.177.11
9 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) [AS
 23352] 72 msec 60 msec 64 msec
   10 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) [AS
 23352] !A  !A  !A

 69.28.151.178
5 pos-7-5-0.ams11.ip.tiscali.net (213.200.80.17) [AS 23352] 108
 msec 104 msec 104 msec
6  *  *  *

 I don't have any routing problems, after doing some bgp
 investigation, still half of my servers are having issues listing.
 Seems sporadic, though. Some will list and some just 'fall off'.

 /ges

 At 03:56 PM 12/5/2005, Alfred Reynolds wrote:
 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid
 addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and
 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are
 subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days
 to debug problems).

 Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server
 currently running?

 The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP
 blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try
 using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a
 particular hop is dropping your packets.

 - Alfred



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RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Alfred Reynolds
That packet trace is fine, it is just showing you that our firewall
drops ICMP packets (for security reasons). You get multiple entries with
the same IP as the traceroute program just keeps sending more ICMP
packets with longer ttl's that terminate at the same point.

- alfred

Ian mu wrote:
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really
 hard to
 pull anything out but results are really odd. First part varies
 depending
 where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net seems odd.

 IP 16  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)
 138.571ms 17  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net
 (207.173.69.238)  138.280 ms !X
 18  * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)
 314.546 ms !X *
 19  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)  138.652
 ms !X * *
 20  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)  138.419
 ms !X *  142.661 ms !X

 Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from,
 also
 eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to vary too
 much to
 have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to a general area for
 any
 routing problems.

 I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with
 packetloss,
 route changes etc.


 On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid
 addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and
 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are
 subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days
 to debug problems).

 Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server
 currently running?

 The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP
 blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try
 using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a
 particular hop is dropping your packets.

 - Alfred

 Affordablegameservers.com wrote:
 I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with
 the dc and they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont
 reveal any blocking on my or their end. Im stumped if its something
 on my boxes. Can we start pooling out knowledge?

 Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the
 nonshowing servers are using and a list of the server that do show.
 Perhaps there is some connection or none at all. But the absense of
 any hard data to be discounted or included will not help us/valve.

 Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port
 too you never know:

 207.173.177.11:27011
 69.28.151.178:27011

 Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all:

 69.28.151.162:27011
 69.25.142.6:27010

 I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not
 showing up. Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of
 ip's. I go from 209.xxx down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for
 are 205.xxx. I have deleted the files according to the faq here:


http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std
 _adp


.php?p_faqid=165p_created=1093390525p_sid=QpD2jjWhp_lva=p_sp=cF9zcmN
 oPTE


mcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0
 wJnB


fcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9
 zZWF
 yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**p_li=p_topview=1

 I have the servers set to the correct region browser is configured
 correctly no filteres etc.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:53 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
 Problem ?


 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and
 traffic has dropped right off them :(. Any news on this?


 On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remember that they are Pacific time in the States.  So it's not
 even the wee hours of early Monday morning yet there ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM
 To: saturndeathbaboon
 Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
 Problem ?

 Exactly the same problem here.
 We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the
 problem is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend
 of Steam introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist.
 No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our
 servers.

 This Steam-error  is starting to cost us money.
 What is happening Valve ?
 It has been 4 days now since this happened: it's time to react
 gentlemen.

 Greetingz, Albert van Rennes (Holland)

 s I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December
 1st, my s DMC server disappeared from the master server list

Re[4]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Albert
 is configured
 correctly
 no filteres etc.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:53 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
 Problem ?


 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and
 traffic has dropped right off them :(. Any news on this?


 On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remember that they are Pacific time in the States.  So it's not even
 the wee hours of early Monday morning yet there ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM
 To: saturndeathbaboon
 Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

 Exactly the same problem here.
 We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the problem
 is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend of Steam
 introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist.
 No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our
 servers.

 This Steam-error  is starting to cost us money.
 What is happening Valve ?
 It has been 4 days now since this happened: it's time to react
 gentlemen.

 Greetingz, Albert van Rennes (Holland)

 s I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December
 1st, my s DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I
 have no idea s why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had
 the same problem on s the same date.

 s Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then?

 s leo bounds wrote:

 Gary,

 Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or
 do you have an entire box that has none showing in
 steam ?

 I have another win server box in the same rack that
 shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows
 none.
 I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been
 running steam based servers for about 2 years and
 never seen this one before.

 Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this
 problem.
 LB

 Message: 3
 Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500
 To:
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

 Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists
 since about 2
 days ago. At first I thought it was one of my
 access-lists on my 4506
 (or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only
 like a few
 scattered servers.

 /ges




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Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Ian mu
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Hiya, thanks for clearing that one, makes my traces make a bit more sense.
Some of the traces go through tiscali as well, so might be a common point (
213.x.x.x network) looking at previous mails.

On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That packet trace is fine, it is just showing you that our firewall
 drops ICMP packets (for security reasons). You get multiple entries with
 the same IP as the traceroute program just keeps sending more ICMP
 packets with longer ttl's that terminate at the same point.

 - alfred

 Ian mu wrote:
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really
  hard to
  pull anything out but results are really odd. First part varies
  depending
  where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net seems odd.
 
  IP 16  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)
  138.571ms 17  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net
  (207.173.69.238)  138.280 ms !X
  18  * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)
  314.546 ms !X *
  19  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)  138.652
  ms !X * *
  20  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)  138.419
  ms !X *  142.661 ms !X
 
  Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from,
  also
  eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to vary too
  much to
  have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to a general area for
  any
  routing problems.
 
  I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with
  packetloss,
  route changes etc.
 
 
  On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid
  addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and
  69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are
  subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days
  to debug problems).
 
  Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server
  currently running?
 
  The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP
  blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try
  using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a
  particular hop is dropping your packets.
 
  - Alfred
 
  Affordablegameservers.com wrote:
  I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with
  the dc and they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont
  reveal any blocking on my or their end. Im stumped if its something
  on my boxes. Can we start pooling out knowledge?
 
  Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the
  nonshowing servers are using and a list of the server that do show.
  Perhaps there is some connection or none at all. But the absense of
  any hard data to be discounted or included will not help us/valve.
 
  Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port
  too you never know:
 
  207.173.177.11:27011
  69.28.151.178:27011
 
  Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all:
 
  69.28.151.162:27011
  69.25.142.6:27010
 
  I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not
  showing up. Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of
  ip's. I go from 209.xxx down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for
  are 205.xxx. I have deleted the files according to the faq here:
 
 
 http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std
  _adp
 
 
 .php?p_faqid=165p_created=1093390525p_sid=QpD2jjWhp_lva=p_sp=cF9zcmN
  oPTE
 
 
 mcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTAmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0
  wJnB
 
 
 fcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9
  zZWF
  yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**p_li=p_topview=1
 
  I have the servers set to the correct region browser is configured
  correctly no filteres etc.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu
  Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:53 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
  Problem ?
 
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and
  traffic has dropped right off them :(. Any news on this?
 
 
  On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Remember that they are Pacific time in the States.  So it's not
  even the wee hours of early Monday morning yet there ...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert
  Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM
  To: saturndeathbaboon
  Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
  Problem ?
 
  Exactly the same problem here.
  We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the
  problem is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend
  of Steam

RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Affordablegameservers.com
Any thoughts on this one alfred?

Here are 3 traces from the server the game in question is
205.234.209.26:27015 Seems the first one is reporting an issue with routing.
Hope this helps.

Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790]
(C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administratortracert 207.173.177.11

Tracing route to hlmaster1.hlauth.net [207.173.177.11]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1 1 ms1 ms1 ms  205.234.209.1
  21 ms1 ms1 ms  unknown.ord.scnet.net [205.234.205.73]
  31 ms1 ms1 ms  so2-0-0-109.j1.ord.scnet.net [64.202.110.82]
  41 ms1 ms1 ms  chicago-ibx.eli.net [206.223.119.46]
  51 ms1 ms1 ms  ge-4-1-0--0.cr01.chcg.eli.net
[207.173.115.137]

  6 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms  so-0-0-0--0.cr02.mpls.eli.net
[207.173.115.234]

  7 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms  so-3-0-0--0.cr01.mpls.eli.net
[207.173.114.185]

  859 ms59 ms58 ms  so-0-0-0--0.cr02.tkwl.eli.net
[207.173.115.165]

  959 ms60 ms60 ms  p5-0-0.gw02.bllv.eli.net [207.173.115.90]
 1060 ms60 ms60 ms  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net
[207.173.
69.238]
 11  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net [207.173.69.238]  reports:
Destinati  **  routing issue?
on net unreachable.

Trace complete.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:16 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem
?


That packet trace is fine, it is just showing you that our firewall
drops ICMP packets (for security reasons). You get multiple entries with
the same IP as the traceroute program just keeps sending more ICMP
packets with longer ttl's that terminate at the same point.

- alfred

Ian mu wrote:
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really
 hard to
 pull anything out but results are really odd. First part varies
 depending
 where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net seems odd.

 IP 16  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)
 138.571ms 17  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net
 (207.173.69.238)  138.280 ms !X
 18  * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)
 314.546 ms !X *
 19  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)  138.652
 ms !X * *
 20  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)  138.419
 ms !X *  142.661 ms !X

 Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from,
 also
 eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to vary too
 much to
 have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to a general area for
 any
 routing problems.

 I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with
 packetloss,
 route changes etc.


 On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid
 addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and
 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are
 subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days
 to debug problems).

 Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server
 currently running?

 The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP
 blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try
 using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a
 particular hop is dropping your packets.

 - Alfred

 Affordablegameservers.com wrote:
 I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with
 the dc and they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont
 reveal any blocking on my or their end. Im stumped if its something
 on my boxes. Can we start pooling out knowledge?

 Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the
 nonshowing servers are using and a list of the server that do show.
 Perhaps there is some connection or none at all. But the absense of
 any hard data to be discounted or included will not help us/valve.

 Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port
 too you never know:

 207.173.177.11:27011
 69.28.151.178:27011

 Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all:

 69.28.151.162:27011
 69.25.142.6:27010

 I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not
 showing up. Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of
 ip's. I go from 209.xxx down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking for
 are 205.xxx. I have deleted the files according to the faq here:


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RE: [hlds_linux] RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Gary

I adjusted my localpref to 110 to another carrier, and tiscali seems
to filter traffic..

I'm going to see if I can have my upstream localpref AS22822 to
somewhere else for the time being.

As a work around, Alfred, what do you recommend? Could we manually
override the master server? (i dont remember the command off the top
of my head)

At 04:14 PM 12/5/2005, Alfred Reynolds wrote:

The 207.173.177.11 trace is good. The 69.28.151.178 is bad, you aren't
even hitting the backbone of the provider for that machine (Limelight
networks, llnw.net). I CANNOT trace to 213.200.80.17, my trace looks
like:


 7  tbr2-cl11.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.10.61)  69.287 ms  69.861 ms
69.333 ms
 8  tbr1-cl22.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.9.133)  70.217 ms  244.659 ms
230.508 ms
 9  tbr1-cl14.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.122.10.1)  169.846 ms  70.712 ms
73.075 ms
10  12.122.82.133 (12.122.82.133)  68.621 ms  69.195 ms  70.380 ms
11  ge-2-1-2.nyc33.ip.tiscali.net (12.118.94.46)  67.381 ms  66.700 ms
66.651 ms


Looks like tiscali.net might have a routing problem?

- Alfred

Gary wrote:
 I know you have filters setup to protect your infrastructure, but:

 To: 207.173.177.11
9 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) [AS
 23352] 72 msec 60 msec 64 msec
   10 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238) [AS
 23352] !A  !A  !A

 69.28.151.178
5 pos-7-5-0.ams11.ip.tiscali.net (213.200.80.17) [AS 23352] 108
 msec 104 msec 104 msec
6  *  *  *

 I don't have any routing problems, after doing some bgp
 investigation, still half of my servers are having issues listing.
 Seems sporadic, though. Some will list and some just 'fall off'.

 /ges

 At 03:56 PM 12/5/2005, Alfred Reynolds wrote:
 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid
 addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and
 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are
 subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days
 to debug problems).

 Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server
 currently running?

 The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain IP
 blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list try
 using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a
 particular hop is dropping your packets.

 - Alfred



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RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Alfred Reynolds
Oh, and please restart your server if you do still have a problem.

- Alfred

Alfred Reynolds wrote:
 One of the 3 servers has an abnormally large incoming bandwdith. We
 have
 taken it offline until we can determine and remove the source of the
 packets. This should fix the servers missing from the list problem.

 - Alfred

 Alfred Reynolds wrote:
 That packet trace is fine, it is just showing you that our firewall
 drops ICMP packets (for security reasons). You get multiple entries
 with the same IP as the traceroute program just keeps sending more
 ICMP packets with longer ttl's that terminate at the same point.

 - alfred

 Ian mu wrote:
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really
 hard to pull anything out but results are really odd. First part
 varies depending where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net
 seems odd.

 IP 16  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)
 138.571ms 17  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net
 (207.173.69.238)  138.280 ms !X
 18  * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)
 314.546 ms !X * 19  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net
 (207.173.69.238)  138.652 ms !X * * 20
 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)  138.419 ms
 !X *  142.661 ms !X

 Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from,
 also eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to vary
 too much to have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to a
 general area for any routing problems.

 I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with
 packetloss, route changes etc.


 On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid
 addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and
 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are
 subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of days
 to debug problems).

 Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the server
 currently running?

 The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain
 IP blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list
 try using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a
 particular hop is dropping your packets.

 - Alfred

 Affordablegameservers.com wrote:
 I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with
 the dc and they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont
 reveal any blocking on my or their end. Im stumped if its
 something on my boxes. Can we start pooling out knowledge?

 Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the
 nonshowing servers are using and a list of the server that do
 show. Perhaps there is some connection or none at all. But the
 absense of any hard data to be discounted or included will not
 help us/valve.

 Here are the masters for a showing server please include the port
 too you never know:

 207.173.177.11:27011
 69.28.151.178:27011

 Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all:

 69.28.151.162:27011
 69.25.142.6:27010

 I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not
 showing up. Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of
 ip's. I go from 209.xxx down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking
 for are 205.xxx. I have deleted the files according to the faq
 here:




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 yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**p_li=p_topview=1

 I have the servers set to the correct region browser is
 configured correctly no filteres etc.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:53 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
 Problem ?


 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and
 traffic has dropped right off them :(. Any news on this?


 On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remember that they are Pacific time in the States.  So it's not
 even the wee hours of early Monday morning yet there ...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM
 To: saturndeathbaboon
 Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
 Problem ?

 Exactly the same problem here.
 We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the
 problem is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the
 backend of Steam introduced a big fault concerning their
 masterlist.
 No faults are showing in consoles

RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Alfred Reynolds
Unknown at this time. The agility of Steam allows us just to move the
services elsewhere and analyze it without effecting users.

- Alfred

Affordablegameservers.com wrote:
 abnormally large incomming bw = ddos?



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:54 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
 Problem ?


 Oh, and please restart your server if you do still have a problem.

 - Alfred

 Alfred Reynolds wrote:
 One of the 3 servers has an abnormally large incoming bandwdith. We
 have taken it offline until we can determine and remove the source
 of the packets. This should fix the servers missing from the list
 problem.

 - Alfred

 Alfred Reynolds wrote:
 That packet trace is fine, it is just showing you that our firewall
 drops ICMP packets (for security reasons). You get multiple entries
 with the same IP as the traceroute program just keeps sending more
 ICMP packets with longer ttl's that terminate at the same point.

 - alfred

 Ian mu wrote:
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really
 hard to pull anything out but results are really odd. First part
 varies depending where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net
 seems odd.

 IP 16  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)
 138.571ms 17  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net
 (207.173.69.238)  138.280 ms !X
 18  * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)
 314.546 ms !X * 19  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net
 (207.173.69.238)  138.652 ms !X * * 20
 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)  138.419
 ms !X *  142.661 ms !X

 Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from,
 also eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to
 vary too much to have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to
 a general area for any routing problems.

 I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with
 packetloss, route changes etc.


 On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid
 addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and
 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are
 subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of
 days to debug problems).

 Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the
 server currently running?

 The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain
 IP blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list
 try using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a
 particular hop is dropping your packets.

 - Alfred

 Affordablegameservers.com wrote:
 I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with
 the dc and they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont
 reveal any blocking on my or their end. Im stumped if its
 something on my boxes. Can we start pooling out knowledge?

 Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the
 nonshowing servers are using and a list of the server that do
 show. Perhaps there is some connection or none at all. But the
 absense of any hard data to be discounted or included will not
 help us/valve.

 Here are the masters for a showing server please include the
 port too you never know:

 207.173.177.11:27011
 69.28.151.178:27011

 Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all:

 69.28.151.162:27011
 69.25.142.6:27010

 I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not
 showing up. Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of
 ip's. I go from 209.xxx down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking
 for are 205.xxx. I have deleted the files according to the faq
 here:





http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std
 _adp





.php?p_faqid=165p_created=1093390525p_sid=QpD2jjWhp_lva=p_sp=cF9zcmN
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 zZWF
 yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**p_li=p_topview=1

 I have the servers set to the correct region browser is
 configured correctly no filteres etc.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:53 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
 Problem ?


 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more, and
 traffic has dropped right off them :(. Any news on this?


 On 12/5/05, Stuart Stegall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remember that they are Pacific time in the States.  So it's not
 even the wee hours of early Monday morning yet there ...

 -Original

RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Gary

FWIW I've localpref'd limelight off to another carrier that doesn't
send it's transit to europe/back to the states, and it started working again.

Pointy hat to Alfred for investigating this issue :)

At 07:15 PM 12/5/2005, Alfred Reynolds wrote:

Unknown at this time. The agility of Steam allows us just to move the
services elsewhere and analyze it without effecting users.

- Alfred

Affordablegameservers.com wrote:
 abnormally large incomming bw = ddos?



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:54 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
 Problem ?


 Oh, and please restart your server if you do still have a problem.

 - Alfred

 Alfred Reynolds wrote:
 One of the 3 servers has an abnormally large incoming bandwdith. We
 have taken it offline until we can determine and remove the source
 of the packets. This should fix the servers missing from the list
 problem.

 - Alfred

 Alfred Reynolds wrote:
 That packet trace is fine, it is just showing you that our firewall
 drops ICMP packets (for security reasons). You get multiple entries
 with the same IP as the traceroute program just keeps sending more
 ICMP packets with longer ttl's that terminate at the same point.

 - alfred

 Ian mu wrote:
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Hmm just tried some traceroutes from servers and from home, really
 hard to pull anything out but results are really odd. First part
 varies depending where I trace from, but latter part in eli.net
 seems odd.

 IP 16  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)
 138.571ms 17  * * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net
 (207.173.69.238)  138.280 ms !X
 18  * gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)
 314.546 ms !X * 19  gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net
 (207.173.69.238)  138.652 ms !X * * 20
 gw-cust-VALVESOFTWARE-COM.bllv.eli.net (207.173.69.238)  138.419
 ms !X *  142.661 ms !X

 Seems to loop and then respond? Doesn't matter where I trace from,
 also eli.net seems to return several IPs the same, but seems to
 vary too much to have anything conclusive. But may be a pointer to
 a general area for any routing problems.

 I'll try and do some more conclusive proper traces later with
 packetloss, route changes etc.


 On 12/5/05, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 69.25.142.6 isn't a valid master server address, the only valid
 addresses at this moment are 207.173.177.11, 69.28.151.178 and
 69.28.151.162 (DON'T hard code these values anywhere, they are
 subject to change but you can use them for the next couple of
 days to debug problems).

 Albert, I am not able to ping 137.224.223.124:27015, is the
 server currently running?

 The current suspect for this problem is routing issues as certain
 IP blocks seem affected. If you don't see your servers in the list
 try using traceroute to the 3 master server addresses and see if a
 particular hop is dropping your packets.

 - Alfred

 Affordablegameservers.com wrote:
 I seem to be able to find a ton of them too now. Ive checked with
 the dc and they have not installed a firewall and port scans dont
 reveal any blocking on my or their end. Im stumped if its
 something on my boxes. Can we start pooling out knowledge?

 Lets start to compile a list of the master servers that the
 nonshowing servers are using and a list of the server that do
 show. Perhaps there is some connection or none at all. But the
 absense of any hard data to be discounted or included will not
 help us/valve.

 Here are the masters for a showing server please include the
 port too you never know:

 207.173.177.11:27011
 69.28.151.178:27011

 Here is one that doesnt show did for a long time now not at all:

 69.28.151.162:27011
 69.25.142.6:27010

 I added the ones the showing server is using but so far its not
 showing up. Matter of fact i seem to be missing a HUGE swath of
 ip's. I go from 209.xxx down to 68.xxx the servers I am looking
 for are 205.xxx. I have deleted the files according to the faq
 here:





http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std
 _adp





.php?p_faqid=165p_created=1093390525p_sid=QpD2jjWhp_lva=p_sp=cF9zcmN
 oPTE





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 zZWF
 yY2hfdGV4dD1ub3Qgc2hvd2luZw**p_li=p_topview=1

 I have the servers set to the correct region browser is
 configured correctly no filteres etc.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian mu
 Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:53 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
 Problem ?


 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Just checked on this, not one of our servers shows any more

Re: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-05 Thread Ian mu
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Still not working for me after restarting 3 servers, none of them have
appeared, but will check again in morning.



  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds
  Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:54 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port
  Problem ?
 
 
  Oh, and please restart your server if you do still have a problem.
 
  - Alfred
 
  Alfred Reynolds wrote:
  One of the 3 servers has an abnormally large incoming bandwdith. We
  have taken it offline until we can determine and remove the source
  of the packets. This should fix the servers missing from the list
  problem.
 
  - Alfred
 

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Re: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-04 Thread saturndeathbaboon

I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December 1st, my
DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I have no idea
why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had the same problem on
the same date.

Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then?

leo bounds wrote:


Gary,

Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or
do you have an entire box that has none showing in
steam ?

I have another win server box in the same rack that
shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows
none.
I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been
running steam based servers for about 2 years and
never seen this one before.

Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this
problem.
LB

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Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500
To:
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists
since about 2
days ago. At first I thought it was one of my
access-lists on my 4506
(or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only
like a few
scattered servers.

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RE: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-04 Thread Affordablegameservers.com
ive got a few too
cant get them to show for anything but servers on the same box do.


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Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 7:38 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?


I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December 1st, my
DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I have no idea
why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had the same problem on
the same date.

Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then?

leo bounds wrote:

Gary,

Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or
do you have an entire box that has none showing in
steam ?

I have another win server box in the same rack that
shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows
none.
 I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been
running steam based servers for about 2 years and
never seen this one before.

Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this
problem.
LB

Message: 3
Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500
To:
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists
since about 2
days ago. At first I thought it was one of my
access-lists on my 4506
(or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only
like a few
scattered servers.

/ges




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RE: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-04 Thread Andrew Armstrong
Incidently, when someone joins one of these servers with this problem,
it instantly crashes and shutsdown.

Without players, its queryable and appears OK.

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Subject: RE: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

ive got a few too
cant get them to show for anything but servers on the same box do.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of saturndeathbaboon
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 7:38 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?


I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December 1st, my
DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I have no idea
why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had the same problem on
the same date.

Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then?

leo bounds wrote:

Gary,

Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or do you have an
entire box that has none showing in steam ?

I have another win server box in the same rack that shows servers in
steam, then the other box that shows none.
 I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been running steam based
servers for about 2 years and never seen this one before.

Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this problem.
LB

Message: 3
Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500
To:
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists since about 2
days ago. At first I thought it was one of my access-lists on my 4506
(or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only like a few scattered

servers.

/ges




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Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-04 Thread Albert
Exactly the same problem here.
We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the problem
is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend of Steam
introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist.
No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our servers.

This Steam-error  is starting to cost us money.
What is happening Valve ?
It has been 4 days now since this happened: it's time to react
gentlemen.

Greetingz, Albert van Rennes (Holland)

s I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December 1st, my
s DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I have no idea
s why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had the same problem on
s the same date.

s Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then?

s leo bounds wrote:

Gary,

Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or
do you have an entire box that has none showing in
steam ?

I have another win server box in the same rack that
shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows
none.
 I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been
running steam based servers for about 2 years and
never seen this one before.

Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this
problem.
LB

Message: 3
Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500
To:
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists
since about 2
days ago. At first I thought it was one of my
access-lists on my 4506
(or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only
like a few
scattered servers.

/ges




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RE: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-04 Thread Stuart Stegall
Remember that they are Pacific time in the States.  So it's not even the wee
hours of early Monday morning yet there ...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:16 AM
To: saturndeathbaboon
Subject: Re[2]: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

Exactly the same problem here.
We tried everything, but at this moment we are 100% sure the problem
is NOT on our side. During the 1st of december the backend of Steam
introduced a big fault concerning their masterlist.
No faults are showing in consoles and we changed nothing on our servers.

This Steam-error  is starting to cost us money.
What is happening Valve ?
It has been 4 days now since this happened: it's time to react
gentlemen.

Greetingz, Albert van Rennes (Holland)

s I've got exactly the same problem - at some stage on December 1st, my
s DMC server disappeared from the master server list and I have no idea
s why. I'm aware of at least one other person who had the same problem on
s the same date.

s Is anyone aware of any updates that happened then?

s leo bounds wrote:

Gary,

Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or
do you have an entire box that has none showing in
steam ?

I have another win server box in the same rack that
shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows
none.
 I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been
running steam based servers for about 2 years and
never seen this one before.

Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this
problem.
LB

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Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500
To:
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists
since about 2
days ago. At first I thought it was one of my
access-lists on my 4506
(or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only
like a few
scattered servers.

/ges




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Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-03 Thread leo bounds
Gary,

Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or
do you have an entire box that has none showing in
steam ?

I have another win server box in the same rack that
shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows
none.
 I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been
running steam based servers for about 2 years and
never seen this one before.

Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this
problem.
LB

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Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500
To:
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists
since about 2
days ago. At first I thought it was one of my
access-lists on my 4506
(or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only
like a few
scattered servers.

/ges




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Re: Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-03 Thread Albert
Seems like the same problem with our servers.
Only difference: ours are mostly HL2DM-based.

This seems to be a steam issue, probably master-server related.
So many different setups and locations, but with 1 thing in common: a
steam update 2 days ago.

Albert.

lb Gary,

lb Is that scattered servers accross different boxes or
lb do you have an entire box that has none showing in
lb steam ?

lb I have another win server box in the same rack that
lb shows servers in steam, then the other box that shows
lb none.
lb  I can't figure out what the problem is. I've been
lb running steam based servers for about 2 years and
lb never seen this one before.

lb Thanks to all for any suggestions on how to fix this
lb problem.
lb LB

lb Message: 3
lb Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:46:51 -0500
lb To:
lb hlds@list.valvesoftware.com,hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
lb From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lb Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?
lb Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

lb Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists
lb since about 2
lb days ago. At first I thought it was one of my
lb access-lists on my 4506
lb (or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only
lb like a few
lb scattered servers.

lb /ges




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[hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-02 Thread leo bounds
Is there a specific port that has to be open on a
server box for servers to show in the Steam server
listing ?

For some reason I have one server box with CS Servers
not showing in the Steam server listing.
 You can connect and play on the CS Servers fine it's
just not showing in the server list.

The strange thing is that another server box in the
same rack has CS Servers showing fine in Steam.
 The difference is the kind of firewalls on each box.

Is there a specific port that needs to be opened for
Steam query to have these servers listed in the main
Server Browser Listing in Steam ?

Thanks much for any help and suggestions,
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RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-02 Thread Napier, Kevin
I belive 27010 udp I think but dont quote me on that.


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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 5:26 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?


Is there a specific port that has to be open on a
server box for servers to show in the Steam server
listing ?

For some reason I have one server box with CS Servers
not showing in the Steam server listing.
 You can connect and play on the CS Servers fine it's
just not showing in the server list.

The strange thing is that another server box in the
same rack has CS Servers showing fine in Steam.
 The difference is the kind of firewalls on each box.

Is there a specific port that needs to be opened for
Steam query to have these servers listed in the main
Server Browser Listing in Steam ?

Thanks much for any help and suggestions,
LB



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RE: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?

2005-12-02 Thread Gary

Some of my CS servers aren't showing up on query lists since about 2
days ago. At first I thought it was one of my access-lists on my 4506
(or maybe a routing issue, checked), but it's only like a few
scattered servers.

/ges

At 06:27 PM 12/2/2005, Napier, Kevin wrote:

I belive 27010 udp I think but dont quote me on that.


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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 5:26 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Steam Server Query Port Problem ?


Is there a specific port that has to be open on a
server box for servers to show in the Steam server
listing ?

For some reason I have one server box with CS Servers
not showing in the Steam server listing.
 You can connect and play on the CS Servers fine it's
just not showing in the server list.

The strange thing is that another server box in the
same rack has CS Servers showing fine in Steam.
 The difference is the kind of firewalls on each box.

Is there a specific port that needs to be opened for
Steam query to have these servers listed in the main
Server Browser Listing in Steam ?

Thanks much for any help and suggestions,
LB



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