Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-30 Thread hlds

lol that's like saying 3rd party addons don't need to update their
software because it worked with a previous version of valve's software.

Simple fact, IE6 is not IE7.  Just because something worked in IE6 is
not guaranteed to work in IE7.



Quoting Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


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how is valve responsable for the soloution ? does sv_downloadurl work with
IE6 and later. yes it does take a break have a think and then decide
who's to blame

On 22/10/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


So you would like to explain a few million gamers how to disable
auto-update from Windows and that they have to update their machines
then manually every few weeks? ;-)

The only working solution could be that fast-download works without any
manual work from a gamer. I'm quiet sure that MS will not provide any
fix through auto-update that it works again, so valve is responsible for
a solution.

Michael Jordan wrote:
> Maybe we should just learn a lesson and not upgrade our Micro$oft
software?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Albiniak
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:38 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
> sah wheet. thanks.
>
> On 10/22/06, Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> --
>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] tut tut
>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017 and from
>> what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro wank has
>> changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
>> reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing the
>> finger at each other :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
>>> you please share the link with the rest of us?
>>>
>>> On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function
>>>> doesn't work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)
>>>>
>>>> if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins
>>>> will have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom
>>>> maps due removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.
>>>>
>>>> A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based
>>>> fix which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the
>>>> user has no manual work to do.
>>>>
>>>> IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on
>>>> WinXP Clients, so there should be a fix asap.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
>>>> Father dougal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] u should realy
>>>>> look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix for
>>>>>
>>> this
>>>
>>>>> allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running VISTA and
>>>>> i had
>>>>>
>>> to use
>>>
>>>>> it ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saint K.
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta
>>>>>>>
>>> releases
>>>
>>>>>>> - if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an attempt
>>>>>>> to download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
>>>>>>> IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving
>>>>>>> increasing number of complains about this issue. The only
>>>>>>> workaround is to disable fast downloads but it is quite poor
>>>>>>>
> solution actually.
>
>>>>>>> Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roman
>>>>>>>


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Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-24 Thread Whisper
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Kyle ist just dis kinda guy j00 know?

On 10/25/06, Edward Luna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Was it something I said? :)~
>
> -Original Message-
> From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:14 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
>
> --
>
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> Please let this thread die already.  I'm tired of getting posts that say
> the
> same damn thing but it in lamer ways then the last poster. Forum
> troll's
> all of you.  STOPPP.
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Edward Luna
> Date: 10/24/06 04:14:12
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
> Please don't take this the wrong way but you may have missed the
> point.  You
> never want to be among the first people to install an update regardless of
> what software you're using.  It doesn't really matter if you do it to
> yourself or you let your favorite software vendor do it to you...
> installation of unproven (time tested) software updates carry the strong
> likelihood of introducing problems you didn't have before the update.  One
> need only read through these lists to see the myriad of problems created
> by
> updates.  It is irrelevant that the problems are ultimately explainable
> and
> perhaps not technically the fault of the update... from the end users
> point
> of view the result is the same... the update broke the system.  In the
> absense of a specific reason that you need some feature of an update, be
> it
> a new function or a fix for a known problem effecting your system, it is
> always best to wait some period of time (6 months is a good stating point)
> before allowing software updates to be installed on your "working" system.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Bass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 5:38 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
>
> While everyone is ranting against the autoupdate feature of Windows, My
> auto updater just got in my face about some updates and none of them
> included IE7. I still have IE6 installed (it's not my primary browser
> anyways). If IE7 is getting installed on people's machine, it means they
> are manually going out and installing it. They should simply be smacked
> for using IE as their primary browser anyways.
>
> Edward Luna wrote:
> > All things eventually come full circle.  First there were "real"
> computers
> and every DP professional knew you never want to be the first person to
> install an update... then Microsloth came along and made computers easy
> enough for the "below" average DP brain to use (okay.. ignore the fact
> that
> Apple invented the GUI)... then Microsloth realized that the below average
> DP brain was incapable of installing updates so they made computers update
> themselves... soon all computer users will realize how right the old DP
> professionals were (through repeated failure) that you never want to be
> the
> first person to install an update.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:52 PM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > If you cant,don't know how or feel that its too hard update your PC
> manually
> >  then you shouldn't be running a PC in the first place.       I do not
> use
> > auto update and never have used the feature and what is more I have also
> > never used the System restore feature either.
> > Get used to doing everything manually and things like this wont be so
> > bothersome.
> >
> > ---Original Message---
> >
> > From: ShootMe
> > Date: 10/22/06 09:20:26
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
> >
> > So you would like to explain a few million gamers how to disable
> > auto-update from Windows and that they have to update their machines
> > then manually every few weeks? ;-)
> >
> > The only working solution could be that fast-download works without any
> > manual work from a gamer. I'm quiet sure that MS will not provide any
> > fix through auto-update that it works again, so valve is responsible for
> > a solution.
> >
> > Mi

RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-24 Thread Edward Luna
Was it something I said? :)~

-Original Message-
From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:14 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue


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Please let this thread die already.  I'm tired of getting posts that say the
same damn thing but it in lamer ways then the last poster. Forum troll's
all of you.  STOPPP.

---Original Message---

From: Edward Luna
Date: 10/24/06 04:14:12
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

Please don't take this the wrong way but you may have missed the point.  You
never want to be among the first people to install an update regardless of
what software you're using.  It doesn't really matter if you do it to
yourself or you let your favorite software vendor do it to you...
installation of unproven (time tested) software updates carry the strong
likelihood of introducing problems you didn't have before the update.  One
need only read through these lists to see the myriad of problems created by
updates.  It is irrelevant that the problems are ultimately explainable and
perhaps not technically the fault of the update... from the end users point
of view the result is the same... the update broke the system.  In the
absense of a specific reason that you need some feature of an update, be it
a new function or a fix for a known problem effecting your system, it is
always best to wait some period of time (6 months is a good stating point)
before allowing software updates to be installed on your "working" system.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Bass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 5:38 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue


While everyone is ranting against the autoupdate feature of Windows, My
auto updater just got in my face about some updates and none of them
included IE7. I still have IE6 installed (it's not my primary browser
anyways). If IE7 is getting installed on people's machine, it means they
are manually going out and installing it. They should simply be smacked
for using IE as their primary browser anyways.

Edward Luna wrote:
> All things eventually come full circle.  First there were "real" computers
and every DP professional knew you never want to be the first person to
install an update... then Microsloth came along and made computers easy
enough for the "below" average DP brain to use (okay.. ignore the fact that
Apple invented the GUI)... then Microsloth realized that the below average
DP brain was incapable of installing updates so they made computers update
themselves... soon all computer users will realize how right the old DP
professionals were (through repeated failure) that you never want to be the
first person to install an update.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:52 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
>
> --
>
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> If you cant,don't know how or feel that its too hard update your PC
manually
>  then you shouldn't be running a PC in the first place.   I do not use
> auto update and never have used the feature and what is more I have also
> never used the System restore feature either.
> Get used to doing everything manually and things like this wont be so
> bothersome.
>
> -------Original Message---
>
> From: ShootMe
> Date: 10/22/06 09:20:26
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
> So you would like to explain a few million gamers how to disable
> auto-update from Windows and that they have to update their machines
> then manually every few weeks? ;-)
>
> The only working solution could be that fast-download works without any
> manual work from a gamer. I'm quiet sure that MS will not provide any
> fix through auto-update that it works again, so valve is responsible for
> a solution.
>
> Michael Jordan wrote:
>
>> Maybe we should just learn a lesson and not upgrade our Micro$oft
>>
> software?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Albiniak
>> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:38 AM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>>
>> sah wheet. thanks.
>>
>> On 10/22/06, Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> --
>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] tut tut
>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showt

Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-24 Thread kyle
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Hey Wisper   <<<<>>>>BD  O:open wide.

---Original Message---

From: Whisper
Date: 10/24/06 06:20:24
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

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Pot, Kettle, Black

ROFL

On 10/24/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> Please let this thread die already.  I'm tired of getting posts that say
> the
> same damn thing but it in lamer ways then the last poster. Forum
> troll's
> all of you.  STOPPP.
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Edward Luna
> Date: 10/24/06 04:14:12
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
> Please don't take this the wrong way but you may have missed the
> point.  You
> never want to be among the first people to install an update regardless of
> what software you're using.  It doesn't really matter if you do it to
> yourself or you let your favorite software vendor do it to you...
> installation of unproven (time tested) software updates carry the strong
> likelihood of introducing problems you didn't have before the update.  One
> need only read through these lists to see the myriad of problems created
> by
> updates.  It is irrelevant that the problems are ultimately explainable
> and
> perhaps not technically the fault of the update... from the end users
> point
> of view the result is the same... the update broke the system.  In the
> absense of a specific reason that you need some feature of an update, be
> it
> a new function or a fix for a known problem effecting your system, it is
> always best to wait some period of time (6 months is a good stating point)
> before allowing software updates to be installed on your "working" system.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Bass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 5:38 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
>
> While everyone is ranting against the autoupdate feature of Windows, My
> auto updater just got in my face about some updates and none of them
> included IE7. I still have IE6 installed (it's not my primary browser
> anyways). If IE7 is getting installed on people's machine, it means they
> are manually going out and installing it. They should simply be smacked
> for using IE as their primary browser anyways.
>
> Edward Luna wrote:
> > All things eventually come full circle.  First there were "real"
> computers
> and every DP professional knew you never want to be the first person to
> install an update... then Microsloth came along and made computers easy
> enough for the "below" average DP brain to use (okay.. ignore the fact
> that
> Apple invented the GUI)... then Microsloth realized that the below average
> DP brain was incapable of installing updates so they made computers update
> themselves... soon all computer users will realize how right the old DP
> professionals were (through repeated failure) that you never want to be
> the
> first person to install an update.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:52 PM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > If you cant,don't know how or feel that its too hard update your PC
> manually
> >  then you shouldn't be running a PC in the first place.       I do not
> use
> > auto update and never have used the feature and what is more I have also
> > never used the System restore feature either.
> > Get used to doing everything manually and things like this wont be so
> > bothersome.
> >
> > ---Original Message---
> >
> > From: ShootMe
> > Date: 10/22/06 09:20:26
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
> >
> > So you would like to explain a few million gamers how to disable
> > auto-update from Windows and that they have to update their machines
> > then manually every few weeks? ;-)
> >
> > The only working solution could be that fast-download works without any
> > manual work from a gamer. I'm quiet sure that MS will not provide any
> > fix through auto-update that it works again, so valve is responsible for
> > a solution.
> >
> >

Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-24 Thread Whisper
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Pot, Kettle, Black

ROFL

On 10/24/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> Please let this thread die already.  I'm tired of getting posts that say
> the
> same damn thing but it in lamer ways then the last poster. Forum
> troll's
> all of you.  STOPPP.
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Edward Luna
> Date: 10/24/06 04:14:12
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
> Please don't take this the wrong way but you may have missed the
> point.  You
> never want to be among the first people to install an update regardless of
> what software you're using.  It doesn't really matter if you do it to
> yourself or you let your favorite software vendor do it to you...
> installation of unproven (time tested) software updates carry the strong
> likelihood of introducing problems you didn't have before the update.  One
> need only read through these lists to see the myriad of problems created
> by
> updates.  It is irrelevant that the problems are ultimately explainable
> and
> perhaps not technically the fault of the update... from the end users
> point
> of view the result is the same... the update broke the system.  In the
> absense of a specific reason that you need some feature of an update, be
> it
> a new function or a fix for a known problem effecting your system, it is
> always best to wait some period of time (6 months is a good stating point)
> before allowing software updates to be installed on your "working" system.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Bass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 5:38 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
>
> While everyone is ranting against the autoupdate feature of Windows, My
> auto updater just got in my face about some updates and none of them
> included IE7. I still have IE6 installed (it's not my primary browser
> anyways). If IE7 is getting installed on people's machine, it means they
> are manually going out and installing it. They should simply be smacked
> for using IE as their primary browser anyways.
>
> Edward Luna wrote:
> > All things eventually come full circle.  First there were "real"
> computers
> and every DP professional knew you never want to be the first person to
> install an update... then Microsloth came along and made computers easy
> enough for the "below" average DP brain to use (okay.. ignore the fact
> that
> Apple invented the GUI)... then Microsloth realized that the below average
> DP brain was incapable of installing updates so they made computers update
> themselves... soon all computer users will realize how right the old DP
> professionals were (through repeated failure) that you never want to be
> the
> first person to install an update.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:52 PM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > If you cant,don't know how or feel that its too hard update your PC
> manually
> >  then you shouldn't be running a PC in the first place.   I do not
> use
> > auto update and never have used the feature and what is more I have also
> > never used the System restore feature either.
> > Get used to doing everything manually and things like this wont be so
> > bothersome.
> >
> > ---Original Message---
> >
> > From: ShootMe
> > Date: 10/22/06 09:20:26
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
> >
> > So you would like to explain a few million gamers how to disable
> > auto-update from Windows and that they have to update their machines
> > then manually every few weeks? ;-)
> >
> > The only working solution could be that fast-download works without any
> > manual work from a gamer. I'm quiet sure that MS will not provide any
> > fix through auto-update that it works again, so valve is responsible for
> > a solution.
> >
> > Michael Jordan wrote:
> >
> >> Maybe we should just learn a lesson and not upgrade our Micro$oft
> >>
> > software?
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behal

RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-24 Thread kyle
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Please let this thread die already.  I'm tired of getting posts that say the
same damn thing but it in lamer ways then the last poster. Forum troll's
all of you.  STOPPP.

---Original Message---

From: Edward Luna
Date: 10/24/06 04:14:12
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

Please don't take this the wrong way but you may have missed the point.  You
never want to be among the first people to install an update regardless of
what software you're using.  It doesn't really matter if you do it to
yourself or you let your favorite software vendor do it to you...
installation of unproven (time tested) software updates carry the strong
likelihood of introducing problems you didn't have before the update.  One
need only read through these lists to see the myriad of problems created by
updates.  It is irrelevant that the problems are ultimately explainable and
perhaps not technically the fault of the update... from the end users point
of view the result is the same... the update broke the system.  In the
absense of a specific reason that you need some feature of an update, be it
a new function or a fix for a known problem effecting your system, it is
always best to wait some period of time (6 months is a good stating point)
before allowing software updates to be installed on your "working" system.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Bass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 5:38 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue


While everyone is ranting against the autoupdate feature of Windows, My
auto updater just got in my face about some updates and none of them
included IE7. I still have IE6 installed (it's not my primary browser
anyways). If IE7 is getting installed on people's machine, it means they
are manually going out and installing it. They should simply be smacked
for using IE as their primary browser anyways.

Edward Luna wrote:
> All things eventually come full circle.  First there were "real" computers
and every DP professional knew you never want to be the first person to
install an update... then Microsloth came along and made computers easy
enough for the "below" average DP brain to use (okay.. ignore the fact that
Apple invented the GUI)... then Microsloth realized that the below average
DP brain was incapable of installing updates so they made computers update
themselves... soon all computer users will realize how right the old DP
professionals were (through repeated failure) that you never want to be the
first person to install an update.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:52 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
>
> --
>
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> If you cant,don't know how or feel that its too hard update your PC
manually
>  then you shouldn't be running a PC in the first place.   I do not use
> auto update and never have used the feature and what is more I have also
> never used the System restore feature either.
> Get used to doing everything manually and things like this wont be so
> bothersome.
>
> -------Original Message---
>
> From: ShootMe
> Date: 10/22/06 09:20:26
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
> So you would like to explain a few million gamers how to disable
> auto-update from Windows and that they have to update their machines
> then manually every few weeks? ;-)
>
> The only working solution could be that fast-download works without any
> manual work from a gamer. I'm quiet sure that MS will not provide any
> fix through auto-update that it works again, so valve is responsible for
> a solution.
>
> Michael Jordan wrote:
>
>> Maybe we should just learn a lesson and not upgrade our Micro$oft
>>
> software?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Albiniak
>> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:38 AM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>>
>> sah wheet. thanks.
>>
>> On 10/22/06, Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> --
>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] tut tut
>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017 and from
>>> what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro wank has
>>> changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
>>> reported th

RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-24 Thread Edward Luna
Please don't take this the wrong way but you may have missed the point.  You 
never want to be among the first people to install an update regardless of what 
software you're using.  It doesn't really matter if you do it to yourself or 
you let your favorite software vendor do it to you... installation of unproven 
(time tested) software updates carry the strong likelihood of introducing 
problems you didn't have before the update.  One need only read through these 
lists to see the myriad of problems created by updates.  It is irrelevant that 
the problems are ultimately explainable and perhaps not technically the fault 
of the update... from the end users point of view the result is the same... the 
update broke the system.  In the absense of a specific reason that you need 
some feature of an update, be it a new function or a fix for a known problem 
effecting your system, it is always best to wait some period of time (6 months 
is a good stating point) before allowing software updates to be installed on 
your "working" system.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Bass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 5:38 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue


While everyone is ranting against the autoupdate feature of Windows, My
auto updater just got in my face about some updates and none of them
included IE7. I still have IE6 installed (it's not my primary browser
anyways). If IE7 is getting installed on people's machine, it means they
are manually going out and installing it. They should simply be smacked
for using IE as their primary browser anyways.

Edward Luna wrote:
> All things eventually come full circle.  First there were "real" computers 
> and every DP professional knew you never want to be the first person to 
> install an update... then Microsloth came along and made computers easy 
> enough for the "below" average DP brain to use (okay.. ignore the fact that 
> Apple invented the GUI)... then Microsloth realized that the below average DP 
> brain was incapable of installing updates so they made computers update 
> themselves... soon all computer users will realize how right the old DP 
> professionals were (through repeated failure) that you never want to be the 
> first person to install an update.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:52 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
>
> --
>
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> If you cant,don't know how or feel that its too hard update your PC manually
>  then you shouldn't be running a PC in the first place.   I do not use
> auto update and never have used the feature and what is more I have also
> never used the System restore feature either.
> Get used to doing everything manually and things like this wont be so
> bothersome.
>
> -------Original Message---
>
> From: ShootMe
> Date: 10/22/06 09:20:26
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
> So you would like to explain a few million gamers how to disable
> auto-update from Windows and that they have to update their machines
> then manually every few weeks? ;-)
>
> The only working solution could be that fast-download works without any
> manual work from a gamer. I'm quiet sure that MS will not provide any
> fix through auto-update that it works again, so valve is responsible for
> a solution.
>
> Michael Jordan wrote:
>
>> Maybe we should just learn a lesson and not upgrade our Micro$oft
>>
> software?
>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Albiniak
>> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:38 AM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>>
>> sah wheet. thanks.
>>
>> On 10/22/06, Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> --
>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] tut tut
>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017 and from
>>> what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro wank has
>>> changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
>>> reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing the
>>> finger at each other :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
>>>> you ple

Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-23 Thread kyle
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Although windows is kind of lame and many people have had problems with it
in the past,  I am not nor have I ever been one of those people.Yes, as
far as running game servers that are secure and run well. it's nothing but
linux for me. But i have been running a winblows desktop PC for going on
11 years and i have never had one single problem with the os or internet
explorer.

i think stupid poor working class  people just hate bill gates because hes a
rich ass Mofo.
just get over it already, your poor and probably will be for life, especialy
if you can't learn to run a simple PC, whatever the os or browser.


just be smarter then the pc,os or browser your using..

---Original Message---

From: Chris Bass
Date: 10/23/06 14:42:59
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

While everyone is ranting against the autoupdate feature of Windows, My
auto updater just got in my face about some updates and none of them
included IE7. I still have IE6 installed (it's not my primary browser
anyways). If IE7 is getting installed on people's machine, it means they
are manually going out and installing it. They should simply be smacked
for using IE as their primary browser anyways.

Edward Luna wrote:
> All things eventually come full circle.  First there were "real" computers
and every DP professional knew you never want to be the first person to
install an update... then Microsloth came along and made computers easy
enough for the "below" average DP brain to use (okay.. ignore the fact that
Apple invented the GUI)... then Microsloth realized that the below average
DP brain was incapable of installing updates so they made computers update
themselves... soon all computer users will realize how right the old DP
professionals were (through repeated failure) that you never want to be the
first person to install an update.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:52 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
>
> --
>
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> If you cant,don't know how or feel that its too hard update your PC
manually
>  then you shouldn't be running a PC in the first place.   I do not use
> auto update and never have used the feature and what is more I have also
> never used the System restore feature either.
> Get used to doing everything manually and things like this wont be so
> bothersome.
>
> ---Original Message-------
>
> From: ShootMe
> Date: 10/22/06 09:20:26
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
> So you would like to explain a few million gamers how to disable
> auto-update from Windows and that they have to update their machines
> then manually every few weeks? ;-)
>
> The only working solution could be that fast-download works without any
> manual work from a gamer. I'm quiet sure that MS will not provide any
> fix through auto-update that it works again, so valve is responsible for
> a solution.
>
> Michael Jordan wrote:
>
>> Maybe we should just learn a lesson and not upgrade our Micro$oft
>>
> software?
>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Albiniak
>> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:38 AM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>>
>> sah wheet. thanks.
>>
>> On 10/22/06, Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> --
>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] tut tut
>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017 and from
>>> what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro wank has
>>> changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
>>> reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing the
>>> finger at each other :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
>>>> you please share the link with the rest of us?
>>>>
>>>> On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function
>>>>> doesn't work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)
>>>>>
>>>>> if its a client-based fix you c

RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-23 Thread Bart King
Chris,

That's because IE7 is planned for distribution via Automatic Update in
November 1st.  It was released as a separate download previously so
there wouldn't be a sudden rush in November.

http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/10/19/be-ready-for-automatic-updat
e-distribution-of-ie7-by-november-1.aspx

--
Bart King
http://www.bart666.com -- +44 781 219 5654

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Bass
Sent: 23 October 2006 22:38
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

While everyone is ranting against the autoupdate feature of Windows, My
auto updater just got in my face about some updates and none of them
included IE7. I still have IE6 installed (it's not my primary browser
anyways). If IE7 is getting installed on people's machine, it means they
are manually going out and installing it. They should simply be smacked
for using IE as their primary browser anyways.

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Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-23 Thread Chris Bass

While everyone is ranting against the autoupdate feature of Windows, My
auto updater just got in my face about some updates and none of them
included IE7. I still have IE6 installed (it's not my primary browser
anyways). If IE7 is getting installed on people's machine, it means they
are manually going out and installing it. They should simply be smacked
for using IE as their primary browser anyways.

Edward Luna wrote:

All things eventually come full circle.  First there were "real" computers and every DP 
professional knew you never want to be the first person to install an update... then Microsloth 
came along and made computers easy enough for the "below" average DP brain to use (okay.. 
ignore the fact that Apple invented the GUI)... then Microsloth realized that the below average DP 
brain was incapable of installing updates so they made computers update themselves... soon all 
computer users will realize how right the old DP professionals were (through repeated failure) that 
you never want to be the first person to install an update.

-Original Message-
From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:52 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue


--

[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
If you cant,don't know how or feel that its too hard update your PC manually
 then you shouldn't be running a PC in the first place.   I do not use
auto update and never have used the feature and what is more I have also
never used the System restore feature either.
Get used to doing everything manually and things like this wont be so
bothersome.

---Original Message---

From: ShootMe
Date: 10/22/06 09:20:26
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

So you would like to explain a few million gamers how to disable
auto-update from Windows and that they have to update their machines
then manually every few weeks? ;-)

The only working solution could be that fast-download works without any
manual work from a gamer. I'm quiet sure that MS will not provide any
fix through auto-update that it works again, so valve is responsible for
a solution.

Michael Jordan wrote:


Maybe we should just learn a lesson and not upgrade our Micro$oft


software?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Albiniak
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:38 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

sah wheet. thanks.

On 10/22/06, Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] tut tut
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017 and from
what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro wank has
changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing the
finger at each other :)



On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
you please share the link with the rest of us?

On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function
doesn't work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)

if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins
will have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom
maps due removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.

A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based
fix which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the
user has no manual work to do.

IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on
WinXP Clients, so there should be a fix asap.

Regards,
Thomas

Father dougal wrote:



--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] u should realy
look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix for



this



allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running VISTA and
i had



to use



it ;)

On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(

Saint K.
- Original Message -
From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue






This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta



releases



- if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an attempt
to download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving
increasing number of complains about this issue. The only
workaround is to disable fast downloads but it is quite poor



solution actually.



Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?

Regards,

Roman





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RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-23 Thread Timothy Lambert
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yeh i think valve have it all under control. Whats the point of making it work 
on the rc2 if it will not work on the final or the gamers. Im sure valve now 
there is a new version of windows on the way and im sure they are working on it!

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: Re: [hlds] 
> IE7 and HTTP fast download issue> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:17:11 +1000> > 
> --> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> It'd be funny if Gabe 
> didn't happen to used to work for Microsoft.> > On 10/23/06, Andrew Simpson 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > Although, this is the same bug that people 
> have been reporting forever> > since> > IE7 was in Beta and RC stages and 
> nobody took any action on this. Valve> > didn't take it up with Microsoft, 
> Valve didn't write the work-around code> > already, Microsoft didn't fix it.> 
> >> > Everyone dropped the ball, and now there's a rush to patch the hole now> 
> > it's> > actually affecting people out in the wild. Part of the point of the 
> IE7> > beta> > was to ensure that stuff like this didn't happen. I'm glad at 
> least that> > the> > rendering glitches that broke the "Get Steam Now" page 
> and others on the> > Steam website were already fixed.> >> > The moral of 
> this tale is, Valve guys, go grab the latest version of Vista> > you can and 
> install it on a machine, and test your games and Steam on it,> > make sure 
> it's all great. Make Steam games show up in the Vista Game> > Explorer. Make 
> Steam play nice with UAC. Play around with extending Aero> > Glass into the 
> Steam windows so that it looks awesome. Please! Vista is> > going to RTM real 
> soon now, and it may already be too late to get> > Microsoft> > to work any 
> of your feedback into Vista, but it's not too late to make> > Steam> > work 
> fantastic on Vista when it starts being publicly available.> >> > This is all 
> stuff you're going to have to do eventually anyway, but it> > just> > makes 
> sense to get it in the can now ahead of time while it doesn't really> > 
> matter so you don't have to pull people off other things to rush it when> > 
> your average Joe starts installing Vista and starts getting really annoyed> > 
> when Steam inexplicably fails to update any more because UAC is making the> > 
> update fail. Which is especially tricky because you won't be able to push> > 
> out the update which fixes Steam failing to update. You'll have to wait> > 
> until that guy is frustrated enough to hit the Steam website, or start> > 
> complaining to support.> >> > You want to give your customers the best 
> possible experience. Make sure> > Steam works (and works well, you better 
> support the Vista Games explorer> > or> > you're going to look lame) with 
> Vista right out of the box.> >> > -Original Message-> > From: [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Dodd> > Sent: 22 
> October 2006 18:48> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > Subject: Re: [hlds] 
> IE7 and HTTP fast download issue> >> > Facts are wonderful things! Thank you. 
> My apologies to Valve. This is> > definitely a Microsoft induced BUG not a 
> feature change.> >> > On Oct 22, 2006, at 10:31 AM, Alfred Reynolds wrote:> 
> >> > > We are working on a fix for the problem, should have something next> > 
> > week. The bug is that the IE7 COM control now returns corrupt data> > > 
> ocassionally for the document complete event, we are writing code to> > > 
> counter that.> > >> > > - Alfred> > >> > > Father dougal wrote:> > >> --> > 
> >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]> > >> tut tut 
> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017> > >> and> > >> 
> from what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro> > >> wank 
> has> > >> changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who 
> have> > >> reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing 
> the> > >> finger> > >> at each other :)> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> On 22/10/06, 
> Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > >>>

RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-23 Thread Edward Luna
All things eventually come full circle.  First there were "real" computers and 
every DP professional knew you never want to be the first person to install an 
update... then Microsloth came along and made computers easy enough for the 
"below" average DP brain to use (okay.. ignore the fact that Apple invented the 
GUI)... then Microsloth realized that the below average DP brain was incapable 
of installing updates so they made computers update themselves... soon all 
computer users will realize how right the old DP professionals were (through 
repeated failure) that you never want to be the first person to install an 
update.

-Original Message-
From: kyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:52 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue


--

[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
If you cant,don't know how or feel that its too hard update your PC manually
 then you shouldn't be running a PC in the first place.   I do not use
auto update and never have used the feature and what is more I have also
never used the System restore feature either.
Get used to doing everything manually and things like this wont be so
bothersome.

---Original Message---

From: ShootMe
Date: 10/22/06 09:20:26
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

So you would like to explain a few million gamers how to disable
auto-update from Windows and that they have to update their machines
then manually every few weeks? ;-)

The only working solution could be that fast-download works without any
manual work from a gamer. I'm quiet sure that MS will not provide any
fix through auto-update that it works again, so valve is responsible for
a solution.

Michael Jordan wrote:
> Maybe we should just learn a lesson and not upgrade our Micro$oft
software?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Albiniak
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:38 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
> sah wheet. thanks.
>
> On 10/22/06, Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> --
>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] tut tut
>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017 and from
>> what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro wank has
>> changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
>> reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing the
>> finger at each other :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
>>> you please share the link with the rest of us?
>>>
>>> On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function
>>>> doesn't work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)
>>>>
>>>> if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins
>>>> will have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom
>>>> maps due removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.
>>>>
>>>> A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based
>>>> fix which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the
>>>> user has no manual work to do.
>>>>
>>>> IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on
>>>> WinXP Clients, so there should be a fix asap.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
>>>> Father dougal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] u should realy
>>>>> look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix for
>>>>>
>>> this
>>>
>>>>> allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running VISTA and
>>>>> i had
>>>>>
>>> to use
>>>
>>>>> it ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saint K.
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
>>>>>

Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread kyle
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I don't use the auto update feature to install the winblows updates,  I only
use it to tell me that updates are available for download and then I
dissallow the auto updates and go directly to the windows update site and
download only the updates I want to use.

How easy is it to just go check for updates on the site once every few days.
Also, based on winblows past performance, we should know never to use
anything of theres unless it's mandatory for the first 6 months, until they
have fixed all of the bugs.

i have a few other desktops that i do use to support the beta software that
comes out but i dont use them for anything serious. The bottom line is,
Do not use the autoupdate feature.  do it manually.

---Original Message---

From: Matt Albiniak
Date: 10/22/06 08:08:37
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
you please share the link with the rest of us?

On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function doesn't
> work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)
>
> if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins will
> have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom maps due
> removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.
>
> A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based fix
> which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the user has no
> manual work to do.
>
> IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on WinXP
> Clients, so there should be a fix asap.
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
> Father dougal wrote:
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > u should realy look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix for
this
> > allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running VISTA and i had to
use
> > it ;)
> >
> > On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(
> >>
> >> Saint K.
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
> >> Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta releases
> >>> - if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an attempt to
> >>> download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
> >>> IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving increasing
> >>> number of complains about this issue. The only workaround is to
> >>> disable fast downloads but it is quite poor solution actually.
> >>> Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Roman
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RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread Andrew Simpson
Although, this is the same bug that people have been reporting forever since
IE7 was in Beta and RC stages and nobody took any action on this. Valve
didn't take it up with Microsoft, Valve didn't write the work-around code
already, Microsoft didn't fix it.

Everyone dropped the ball, and now there's a rush to patch the hole now it's
actually affecting people out in the wild. Part of the point of the IE7 beta
was to ensure that stuff like this didn't happen. I'm glad at least that the
rendering glitches that broke the "Get Steam Now" page and others on the
Steam website were already fixed.

The moral of this tale is, Valve guys, go grab the latest version of Vista
you can and install it on a machine, and test your games and Steam on it,
make sure it's all great. Make Steam games show up in the Vista Game
Explorer. Make Steam play nice with UAC. Play around with extending Aero
Glass into the Steam windows so that it looks awesome. Please! Vista is
going to RTM real soon now, and it may already be too late to get Microsoft
to work any of your feedback into Vista, but it's not too late to make Steam
work fantastic on Vista when it starts being publicly available.

This is all stuff you're going to have to do eventually anyway, but it just
makes sense to get it in the can now ahead of time while it doesn't really
matter so you don't have to pull people off other things to rush it when
your average Joe starts installing Vista and starts getting really annoyed
when Steam inexplicably fails to update any more because UAC is making the
update fail. Which is especially tricky because you won't be able to push
out the update which fixes Steam failing to update. You'll have to wait
until that guy is frustrated enough to hit the Steam website, or start
complaining to support.

You want to give your customers the best possible experience. Make sure
Steam works (and works well, you better support the Vista Games explorer or
you're going to look lame) with Vista right out of the box.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Dodd
Sent: 22 October 2006 18:48
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

Facts are wonderful things! Thank you. My apologies to Valve. This is
definitely a Microsoft induced BUG not a feature change.

On Oct 22, 2006, at 10:31 AM, Alfred Reynolds wrote:

> We are working on a fix for the problem, should have something next
> week. The bug is that the IE7 COM control now returns corrupt data
> ocassionally for the document complete event, we are writing code to
> counter that.
>
> - Alfred
>
> Father dougal wrote:
>> --
>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>> tut tut http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017
>> and
>> from what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro
>> wank has
>> changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
>> reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing the
>> finger
>> at each other :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
>>> you please share the link with the rest of us?
>>>
>>> On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function
>>>> doesn't work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)
>>>>
>>>> if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins
>>>> will have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom
>>>> maps due removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.
>>>>
>>>> A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based fix
>>>> which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the user
>>>> has no manual work to do.
>>>>
>>>> IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on
>>>> WinXP Clients, so there should be a fix asap.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
>>>> Father dougal wrote:
>>>>> --
>>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>>>>> u should realy look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix
>>>>> for this allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running
>>>>> VISTA and i had to use it ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bug confermed, we're 

Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread kyle
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
If you cant,don't know how or feel that its too hard update your PC manually
 then you shouldn't be running a PC in the first place.   I do not use
auto update and never have used the feature and what is more I have also
never used the System restore feature either.
Get used to doing everything manually and things like this wont be so
bothersome.

---Original Message---

From: ShootMe
Date: 10/22/06 09:20:26
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

So you would like to explain a few million gamers how to disable
auto-update from Windows and that they have to update their machines
then manually every few weeks? ;-)

The only working solution could be that fast-download works without any
manual work from a gamer. I'm quiet sure that MS will not provide any
fix through auto-update that it works again, so valve is responsible for
a solution.

Michael Jordan wrote:
> Maybe we should just learn a lesson and not upgrade our Micro$oft
software?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Albiniak
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:38 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
> sah wheet. thanks.
>
> On 10/22/06, Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> --
>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] tut tut
>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017 and from
>> what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro wank has
>> changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
>> reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing the
>> finger at each other :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
>>> you please share the link with the rest of us?
>>>
>>> On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function
>>>> doesn't work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)
>>>>
>>>> if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins
>>>> will have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom
>>>> maps due removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.
>>>>
>>>> A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based
>>>> fix which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the
>>>> user has no manual work to do.
>>>>
>>>> IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on
>>>> WinXP Clients, so there should be a fix asap.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
>>>> Father dougal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] u should realy
>>>>> look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix for
>>>>>
>>> this
>>>
>>>>> allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running VISTA and
>>>>> i had
>>>>>
>>> to use
>>>
>>>>> it ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saint K.
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta
>>>>>>>
>>> releases
>>>
>>>>>>> - if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an attempt
>>>>>>> to download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
>>>>>>> IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving
>>>>>>> increasing number of complains about this issue. The only
>>>>>>> workaround is to disable fast downloads but it is quite poor
>>>>>>>
> solution actually.
>
>>>>>>> Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roman
>>>>>>>


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RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread Andrew Armstrong
Surprised you are not using the cURL library to handle downloading like
this.

Ignore me if this is totally irrelevant :)

- Andrew

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds
Sent: Monday, 23 October 2006 3:31 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

We are working on a fix for the problem, should have something next
week. The bug is that the IE7 COM control now returns corrupt data
ocassionally for the document complete event, we are writing code to
counter that.

- Alfred

Father dougal wrote:
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> tut tut http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017
> and
> from what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro
> wank has
> changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
> reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing the
> finger
> at each other :)
>
>
>
> On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
>> you please share the link with the rest of us?
>>
>> On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function
>>> doesn't work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)
>>>
>>> if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins
>>> will have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom
>>> maps due removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.
>>>
>>> A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based fix
>>> which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the user
>>> has no manual work to do.
>>>
>>> IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on
>>> WinXP Clients, so there should be a fix asap.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> Father dougal wrote:
>>>> --
>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>>>> u should realy look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix
>>>> for this allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running
>>>> VISTA and i had to use it ;)
>>>>
>>>> On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(
>>>>>
>>>>> Saint K.
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
>>>>> Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta
>>>>>> releases - if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an
>>>>>> attempt to download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
>>>>>> IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving increasing
>>>>>> number of complains about this issue. The only workaround is to
>>>>>> disable fast downloads but it is quite poor solution actually.
>>>>>> Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roman
>>>
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RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread Alfred Reynolds
We are working on a fix for the problem, should have something next
week. The bug is that the IE7 COM control now returns corrupt data
ocassionally for the document complete event, we are writing code to
counter that.

- Alfred

Father dougal wrote:
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> tut tut http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017
> and
> from what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro
> wank has
> changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
> reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing the
> finger
> at each other :)
>
>
>
> On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
>> you please share the link with the rest of us?
>>
>> On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function
>>> doesn't work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)
>>>
>>> if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins
>>> will have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom
>>> maps due removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.
>>>
>>> A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based fix
>>> which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the user
>>> has no manual work to do.
>>>
>>> IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on
>>> WinXP Clients, so there should be a fix asap.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> Father dougal wrote:
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 u should realy look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix
 for this allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running
 VISTA and i had to use it ;)

 On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(
>
> Saint K.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
> Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
>
>
>> This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta
>> releases - if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an
>> attempt to download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
>> IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving increasing
>> number of complains about this issue. The only workaround is to
>> disable fast downloads but it is quite poor solution actually.
>> Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Roman
>>>
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Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread Robert Dodd

Facts are wonderful things! Thank you. My apologies to Valve. This is
definitely a Microsoft induced BUG not a feature change.

On Oct 22, 2006, at 10:31 AM, Alfred Reynolds wrote:


We are working on a fix for the problem, should have something next
week. The bug is that the IE7 COM control now returns corrupt data
ocassionally for the document complete event, we are writing code to
counter that.

- Alfred

Father dougal wrote:

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
tut tut http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017
and
from what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro
wank has
changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing the
finger
at each other :)



On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
you please share the link with the rest of us?

On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function
doesn't work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)

if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins
will have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom
maps due removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.

A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based fix
which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the user
has no manual work to do.

IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on
WinXP Clients, so there should be a fix asap.

Regards,
Thomas

Father dougal wrote:

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
u should realy look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix
for this allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running
VISTA and i had to use it ;)

On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(

Saint K.
- Original Message -
From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue




This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta
releases - if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an
attempt to download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving
increasing
number of complains about this issue. The only workaround is to
disable fast downloads but it is quite poor solution actually.
Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?

Regards,

Roman


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RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread Bart King
Hello,

Actually looking at the user-supplied fix shows you it's a registry
change which is relevant to the Steam client, nothing to actually do
with Source (client side or server side).

And further investigation shows that the particular registry key is used
by the Steam client to remember the last URL for the banner to show
inside Steam while an update is downloaded.

It would appear that the Steam client shares the same code when
downloading data from web servers for game content, and due to a bug
somewhere there causes the client to crash (whether it is Valve or
Microsoft is impossible to say).

Microsoft have changed quite a bit in how Internet Explorer can be
embedded with version 7, unlike prior versions which were heavily
integrated with the operating system - one of these changes will affect
the way Steam creates/destroys the associated window.

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Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread ShootMe
for me it's not important who is guilty - but it's a fact that with IE 7
(which will come on most gamers machines soon automatically) the
fast-download is not working without manual change.

other question - why is the built-in download from steam so slow and
awfull? if this would be faster, we even will not need something
external, right?

valve is responsible that the built in download is extremly slow and
unacceptable - the sv_downloadurl is just a workaround that they don't
have to improve their own download.


Father dougal wrote:
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> how is valve responsable for the soloution ? does sv_downloadurl work with
> IE6 and later. yes it does take a break have a think and then decide
> who's to blame
>
> On 22/10/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> So you would like to explain a few million gamers how to disable
>> auto-update from Windows and that they have to update their machines
>> then manually every few weeks? ;-)
>>
>> The only working solution could be that fast-download works without any
>> manual work from a gamer. I'm quiet sure that MS will not provide any
>> fix through auto-update that it works again, so valve is responsible for
>> a solution.
>>
>> Michael Jordan wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe we should just learn a lesson and not upgrade our Micro$oft
>>>
>> software?


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Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread Robert Dodd

Depends whether Valve is using a feature of IE that was guaranteed to
never change. Otherwise, with no contractual obligation, it is up to
Valve to keep up with changes. My bank, for example, tests for the
presence of IE6 and tells me to upgrade to IE6 when I'm running IE7.
Who is responsible?


On Oct 22, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Father dougal wrote:


--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
how is valve responsable for the soloution ? does sv_downloadurl
work with
IE6 and later. yes it does take a break have a think and then
decide
who's to blame

On 22/10/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


So you would like to explain a few million gamers how to disable
auto-update from Windows and that they have to update their machines
then manually every few weeks? ;-)

The only working solution could be that fast-download works
without any
manual work from a gamer. I'm quiet sure that MS will not provide any
fix through auto-update that it works again, so valve is
responsible for
a solution.

Michael Jordan wrote:

Maybe we should just learn a lesson and not upgrade our Micro$oft

software?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Albiniak
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:38 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

sah wheet. thanks.

On 10/22/06, Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] tut tut
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017
and from
what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro
wank has
changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who
have
reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing
the
finger at each other :)



On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam
forums, can
you please share the link with the rest of us?

On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function
doesn't work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)

if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins
will have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom
maps due removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.

A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based
fix which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the
user has no manual work to do.

IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on
WinXP Clients, so there should be a fix asap.

Regards,
Thomas

Father dougal wrote:


--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] u should realy
look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix for


this


allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running VISTA and
i had


to use


it ;)

On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(

Saint K.
- Original Message -
From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue





This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta


releases


- if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an attempt
to download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving
increasing number of complains about this issue. The only
workaround is to disable fast downloads but it is quite poor


solution actually.


Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?

Regards,

Roman




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Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread Whisper
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It'd be funny if Gabe didn't happen to used to work for Microsoft.

On 10/23/06, Andrew Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Although, this is the same bug that people have been reporting forever
> since
> IE7 was in Beta and RC stages and nobody took any action on this. Valve
> didn't take it up with Microsoft, Valve didn't write the work-around code
> already, Microsoft didn't fix it.
>
> Everyone dropped the ball, and now there's a rush to patch the hole now
> it's
> actually affecting people out in the wild. Part of the point of the IE7
> beta
> was to ensure that stuff like this didn't happen. I'm glad at least that
> the
> rendering glitches that broke the "Get Steam Now" page and others on the
> Steam website were already fixed.
>
> The moral of this tale is, Valve guys, go grab the latest version of Vista
> you can and install it on a machine, and test your games and Steam on it,
> make sure it's all great. Make Steam games show up in the Vista Game
> Explorer. Make Steam play nice with UAC. Play around with extending Aero
> Glass into the Steam windows so that it looks awesome. Please! Vista is
> going to RTM real soon now, and it may already be too late to get
> Microsoft
> to work any of your feedback into Vista, but it's not too late to make
> Steam
> work fantastic on Vista when it starts being publicly available.
>
> This is all stuff you're going to have to do eventually anyway, but it
> just
> makes sense to get it in the can now ahead of time while it doesn't really
> matter so you don't have to pull people off other things to rush it when
> your average Joe starts installing Vista and starts getting really annoyed
> when Steam inexplicably fails to update any more because UAC is making the
> update fail. Which is especially tricky because you won't be able to push
> out the update which fixes Steam failing to update. You'll have to wait
> until that guy is frustrated enough to hit the Steam website, or start
> complaining to support.
>
> You want to give your customers the best possible experience. Make sure
> Steam works (and works well, you better support the Vista Games explorer
> or
> you're going to look lame) with Vista right out of the box.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Dodd
> Sent: 22 October 2006 18:48
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
> Facts are wonderful things! Thank you. My apologies to Valve. This is
> definitely a Microsoft induced BUG not a feature change.
>
> On Oct 22, 2006, at 10:31 AM, Alfred Reynolds wrote:
>
> > We are working on a fix for the problem, should have something next
> > week. The bug is that the IE7 COM control now returns corrupt data
> > ocassionally for the document complete event, we are writing code to
> > counter that.
> >
> > - Alfred
> >
> > Father dougal wrote:
> >> --
> >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >> tut tut http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017
> >> and
> >> from what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro
> >> wank has
> >> changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
> >> reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing the
> >> finger
> >> at each other :)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
> >>> you please share the link with the rest of us?
> >>>
> >>> On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>> is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function
> >>>> doesn't work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)
> >>>>
> >>>> if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins
> >>>> will have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom
> >>>> maps due removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.
> >>>>
> >>>> A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based fix
> >>>> which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the user
> >>>> has no manual work to do.
> >>>>
> >>>> IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on
> >>>>

Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread Father dougal
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how is valve responsable for the soloution ? does sv_downloadurl work with
IE6 and later. yes it does take a break have a think and then decide
who's to blame

On 22/10/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So you would like to explain a few million gamers how to disable
> auto-update from Windows and that they have to update their machines
> then manually every few weeks? ;-)
>
> The only working solution could be that fast-download works without any
> manual work from a gamer. I'm quiet sure that MS will not provide any
> fix through auto-update that it works again, so valve is responsible for
> a solution.
>
> Michael Jordan wrote:
> > Maybe we should just learn a lesson and not upgrade our Micro$oft
> software?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Albiniak
> > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:38 AM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
> >
> > sah wheet. thanks.
> >
> > On 10/22/06, Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> --
> >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] tut tut
> >> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017 and from
> >> what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro wank has
> >> changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
> >> reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing the
> >> finger at each other :)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
> >>> you please share the link with the rest of us?
> >>>
> >>> On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function
> >>>> doesn't work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)
> >>>>
> >>>> if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins
> >>>> will have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom
> >>>> maps due removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.
> >>>>
> >>>> A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based
> >>>> fix which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the
> >>>> user has no manual work to do.
> >>>>
> >>>> IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on
> >>>> WinXP Clients, so there should be a fix asap.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Thomas
> >>>>
> >>>> Father dougal wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] u should realy
> >>>>> look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix for
> >>>>>
> >>> this
> >>>
> >>>>> allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running VISTA and
> >>>>> i had
> >>>>>
> >>> to use
> >>>
> >>>>> it ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Saint K.
> >>>>>> - Original Message -
> >>>>>> From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>> To: 
> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta
> >>>>>>>
> >>> releases
> >>>
> >>>>>>> - if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an attempt
> >>>>>>> to download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
> >>>>>>> IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving
> >>>>>>> increasing number of complains about this issue. The only
> >>>>>>> workaround is to disable fast downloads but it is quite poor
> >>>>>>>
> > solution actually.
> >
> >>>>>>> Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Roman
> >>>>>>>
>
>
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Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread Chad

Great Idea, but first we need some microsoft software without bugs to be
patched, or a third party that will patch them for us.

Michael Jordan wrote:

Maybe we should just learn a lesson and not upgrade our Micro$oft software?

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Albiniak
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:38 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

sah wheet. thanks.

On 10/22/06, Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] tut tut
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017 and from
what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro wank has
changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing the
finger at each other :)



On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
you please share the link with the rest of us?

On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function
doesn't work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)

if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins
will have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom
maps due removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.

A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based
fix which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the
user has no manual work to do.

IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on
WinXP Clients, so there should be a fix asap.

Regards,
Thomas

Father dougal wrote:


--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] u should realy
look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix for


this


allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running VISTA and
i had


to use


it ;)

On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(

Saint K.
- Original Message -
From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue





This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta


releases


- if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an attempt
to download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving
increasing number of complains about this issue. The only
workaround is to disable fast downloads but it is quite poor


solution actually.


Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?

Regards,

Roman


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Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread ShootMe
So you would like to explain a few million gamers how to disable
auto-update from Windows and that they have to update their machines
then manually every few weeks? ;-)

The only working solution could be that fast-download works without any
manual work from a gamer. I'm quiet sure that MS will not provide any
fix through auto-update that it works again, so valve is responsible for
a solution.

Michael Jordan wrote:
> Maybe we should just learn a lesson and not upgrade our Micro$oft software?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Albiniak
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:38 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
> sah wheet. thanks.
>
> On 10/22/06, Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> --
>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] tut tut
>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017 and from
>> what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro wank has
>> changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
>> reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing the
>> finger at each other :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
>>> you please share the link with the rest of us?
>>>
>>> On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function
>>>> doesn't work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)
>>>>
>>>> if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins
>>>> will have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom
>>>> maps due removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.
>>>>
>>>> A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based
>>>> fix which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the
>>>> user has no manual work to do.
>>>>
>>>> IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on
>>>> WinXP Clients, so there should be a fix asap.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
>>>> Father dougal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] u should realy
>>>>> look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix for
>>>>>
>>> this
>>>
>>>>> allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running VISTA and
>>>>> i had
>>>>>
>>> to use
>>>
>>>>> it ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saint K.
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta
>>>>>>>
>>> releases
>>>
>>>>>>> - if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an attempt
>>>>>>> to download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
>>>>>>> IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving
>>>>>>> increasing number of complains about this issue. The only
>>>>>>> workaround is to disable fast downloads but it is quite poor
>>>>>>>
> solution actually.
>
>>>>>>> Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roman
>>>>>>>


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RE: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread Michael Jordan
Maybe we should just learn a lesson and not upgrade our Micro$oft software?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Albiniak
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:38 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

sah wheet. thanks.

On 10/22/06, Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] tut tut
> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017 and from
> what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro wank has
> changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
> reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing the
> finger at each other :)
>
>
>
> On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
> > you please share the link with the rest of us?
> >
> > On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function
> > > doesn't work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)
> > >
> > > if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins
> > > will have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom
> > > maps due removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.
> > >
> > > A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based
> > > fix which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the
> > > user has no manual work to do.
> > >
> > > IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on
> > > WinXP Clients, so there should be a fix asap.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Thomas
> > >
> > > Father dougal wrote:
> > > > --
> > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] u should realy
> > > > look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix for
> > this
> > > > allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running VISTA and
> > > > i had
> > to use
> > > > it ;)
> > > >
> > > > On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(
> > > >>
> > > >> Saint K.
> > > >> - Original Message -
> > > >> From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >> To: 
> > > >> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
> > > >> Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta
> > releases
> > > >>> - if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an attempt
> > > >>> to download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
> > > >>> IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving
> > > >>> increasing number of complains about this issue. The only
> > > >>> workaround is to disable fast downloads but it is quite poor
solution actually.
> > > >>> Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Regards,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Roman
> > >
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Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread Matt Albiniak

sah wheet. thanks.

On 10/22/06, Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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tut tut http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017 and
from what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro wank has
changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing the finger
at each other :)



On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
> you please share the link with the rest of us?
>
> On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function doesn't
> > work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)
> >
> > if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins will
> > have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom maps due
> > removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.
> >
> > A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based fix
> > which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the user has no
> > manual work to do.
> >
> > IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on WinXP
> > Clients, so there should be a fix asap.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Thomas
> >
> > Father dougal wrote:
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > u should realy look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix for
> this
> > > allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running VISTA and i had
> to use
> > > it ;)
> > >
> > > On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(
> > >>
> > >> Saint K.
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >> From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: 
> > >> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
> > >> Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta
> releases
> > >>> - if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an attempt to
> > >>> download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
> > >>> IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving increasing
> > >>> number of complains about this issue. The only workaround is to
> > >>> disable fast downloads but it is quite poor solution actually.
> > >>> Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Roman
> >
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Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread Father dougal
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tut tut http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489017 and
from what i heard its nothing to do with valve its something micro wank has
changed in IE7 maybe u should join the other hundred people who have
reported this to both microsoft and valve and they keep pointing the finger
at each other :)



On 22/10/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
> you please share the link with the rest of us?
>
> On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function doesn't
> > work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)
> >
> > if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins will
> > have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom maps due
> > removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.
> >
> > A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based fix
> > which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the user has no
> > manual work to do.
> >
> > IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on WinXP
> > Clients, so there should be a fix asap.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Thomas
> >
> > Father dougal wrote:
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > u should realy look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix for
> this
> > > allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running VISTA and i had
> to use
> > > it ;)
> > >
> > > On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(
> > >>
> > >> Saint K.
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >> From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: 
> > >> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
> > >> Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta
> releases
> > >>> - if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an attempt to
> > >>> download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
> > >>> IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving increasing
> > >>> number of complains about this issue. The only workaround is to
> > >>> disable fast downloads but it is quite poor solution actually.
> > >>> Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Roman
> >
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Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread Matt Albiniak

If anyone finds this alleged IE7 fix that's in the steam forums, can
you please share the link with the rest of us?

On 10/22/06, ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function doesn't
work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)

if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins will
have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom maps due
removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.

A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based fix
which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the user has no
manual work to do.

IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on WinXP
Clients, so there should be a fix asap.

Regards,
Thomas

Father dougal wrote:
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> u should realy look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix for this
> allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running VISTA and i had to use
> it ;)
>
> On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(
>>
>> Saint K.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
>> Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>>
>>
>>
>>> This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta releases
>>> - if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an attempt to
>>> download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
>>> IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving increasing
>>> number of complains about this issue. The only workaround is to
>>> disable fast downloads but it is quite poor solution actually.
>>> Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Roman

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Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread ShootMe
is it a client-based fix or a server-based fix? (search-function doesn't
work in steamboard forums so i didn't find until now)

if its a client-based fix you could forget it - and server-admins will
have to decide if they would kill their servers with custom maps due
removing fast-download or to loose players with IE7.

A server-based fix (if possible) is mandatory or a client-based fix
which could be provided with a regular steam-update that the user has no
manual work to do.

IE7 will be installed automatically through auto-update soon on WinXP
Clients, so there should be a fix asap.

Regards,
Thomas

Father dougal wrote:
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> u should realy look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix for this
> allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running VISTA and i had to use
> it ;)
>
> On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(
>>
>> Saint K.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
>> Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>>
>>
>>
>>> This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta releases
>>> - if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an attempt to
>>> download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
>>> IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving increasing
>>> number of complains about this issue. The only workaround is to
>>> disable fast downloads but it is quite poor solution actually.
>>> Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Roman

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Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread Father dougal
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
u should realy look on steampowered.com forums as there is a fix for this
allready :) and it is a fix as my other pc is running VISTA and i had to use
it ;)

On 22/10/06, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(
>
> Saint K.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
> Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue
>
>
> > This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta releases
> > - if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an attempt to
> > download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
> > IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving increasing
> > number of complains about this issue. The only workaround is to
> > disable fast downloads but it is quite poor solution actually.
> > Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Roman
> >
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Re: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue

2006-10-22 Thread Saint K.

Bug confermed, we're dealing with the same issue here :(

Saint K.
- Original Message -
From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: [hlds] IE7 and HTTP fast download issue



This is something that is haunting IE7 users since first beta releases
- if fast downloads are enabled on server sometimes an attempt to
download missing file via HTTP just crashes the game.
IE7 was released few days ago and now we are receiving increasing
number of complains about this issue. The only workaround is to
disable fast downloads but it is quite poor solution actually.
Dear Valve gurus, any plans to fix this issue?

Regards,

Roman

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