RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
As if these folks are just not going to pop up somewhere else. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
Bummer, it's a phpbb forum :( I reported the last "InvisionFree" forum they used - hopefully that got nuked. Was something like invisionboards.com/boards/_You_Steam/ but I haven't managed to find that again =) At least they got rid of the "main" link. :/ - then again, it may not have been VALVe... - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcelo de Paula Bezerra Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2004 10:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens The .tk redirect has been closed, but the site itself(http://www.cs.ispropt.com/site/ and http://www.cs.ispropt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=188) looks up. On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 06:53, Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews wrote: > Bahaha, guess VALVe have been paying attention: > http://nonsteampowered.tk > > "This Account Has Been Suspended > Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible." > > One down ;) > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" > Andrews > Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2004 7:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > It's infested a bit too far for nuking one site to have any effect. > This'll require an extremely well thought out VALVe update to stop them > :/ > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis > Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2004 3:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" > > Andrews > > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:41 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > > > > > Okay, I have my theory, but I can't test it as the download link is a > > little odd. > > > > http://www.cs-nonsteam.tk/ > > > > > While that page is loading look at the bottom of your browser frame. You > are > actually connecting to http://www.cs.ispropt.com/site/ > > Whois info: > > http://alojamentovisual.com/ > AlojamentoVisual.com > APARTADO 19006 > Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 > Portugal > Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com) > Domain Name: ISPROPT.COM > Created on: 05-Dec-03 > Expires on: 05-Dec-04 > Last Updated on: > Administrative Contact: > AlojamentoVisual.com, > AlojamentoVisual.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AlojamentoVisual.com > APARTADO 19006 > Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 > Portugal > 911234567 > Technical Contact: > AlojamentoVisual.com, AlojamentoVisual.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AlojamentoVisual.com > APARTADO 19006 > Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 > Portugal > 911234567 > Domain servers in listed order: > DNS9.DNSTRAFFIC.NET > DNS10.DNSTRAFFIC.NET > > Don't know if this helps any, but it can't hurt to expose the scum. > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
The .tk redirect has been closed, but the site itself(http://www.cs.ispropt.com/site/ and http://www.cs.ispropt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=188) looks up. On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 06:53, Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews wrote: > Bahaha, guess VALVe have been paying attention: > http://nonsteampowered.tk > > "This Account Has Been Suspended > Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible." > > One down ;) > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" > Andrews > Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2004 7:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > It's infested a bit too far for nuking one site to have any effect. > This'll require an extremely well thought out VALVe update to stop them > :/ > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis > Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2004 3:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" > > Andrews > > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:41 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > > > > > Okay, I have my theory, but I can't test it as the download link is a > > little odd. > > > > http://www.cs-nonsteam.tk/ > > > > > While that page is loading look at the bottom of your browser frame. You > are > actually connecting to http://www.cs.ispropt.com/site/ > > Whois info: > > http://alojamentovisual.com/ > AlojamentoVisual.com > APARTADO 19006 > Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 > Portugal > Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com) > Domain Name: ISPROPT.COM > Created on: 05-Dec-03 > Expires on: 05-Dec-04 > Last Updated on: > Administrative Contact: > AlojamentoVisual.com, > AlojamentoVisual.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AlojamentoVisual.com > APARTADO 19006 > Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 > Portugal > 911234567 > Technical Contact: > AlojamentoVisual.com, AlojamentoVisual.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AlojamentoVisual.com > APARTADO 19006 > Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 > Portugal > 911234567 > Domain servers in listed order: > DNS9.DNSTRAFFIC.NET > DNS10.DNSTRAFFIC.NET > > Don't know if this helps any, but it can't hurt to expose the scum. > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
One down, ten billion to go. - Spencer "voogru" MacDonald ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
Bahaha, guess VALVe have been paying attention: http://nonsteampowered.tk "This Account Has Been Suspended Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible." One down ;) - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2004 7:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens It's infested a bit too far for nuking one site to have any effect. This'll require an extremely well thought out VALVe update to stop them :/ - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2004 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" > Andrews > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:41 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > > Okay, I have my theory, but I can't test it as the download link is a > little odd. > > http://www.cs-nonsteam.tk/ > While that page is loading look at the bottom of your browser frame. You are actually connecting to http://www.cs.ispropt.com/site/ Whois info: http://alojamentovisual.com/ AlojamentoVisual.com APARTADO 19006 Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 Portugal Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: ISPROPT.COM Created on: 05-Dec-03 Expires on: 05-Dec-04 Last Updated on: Administrative Contact: AlojamentoVisual.com, AlojamentoVisual.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] AlojamentoVisual.com APARTADO 19006 Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 Portugal 911234567 Technical Contact: AlojamentoVisual.com, AlojamentoVisual.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] AlojamentoVisual.com APARTADO 19006 Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 Portugal 911234567 Domain servers in listed order: DNS9.DNSTRAFFIC.NET DNS10.DNSTRAFFIC.NET Don't know if this helps any, but it can't hurt to expose the scum. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
It's infested a bit too far for nuking one site to have any effect. This'll require an extremely well thought out VALVe update to stop them :/ - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2004 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" > Andrews > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:41 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > > Okay, I have my theory, but I can't test it as the download link is a > little odd. > > http://www.cs-nonsteam.tk/ > While that page is loading look at the bottom of your browser frame. You are actually connecting to http://www.cs.ispropt.com/site/ Whois info: http://alojamentovisual.com/ AlojamentoVisual.com APARTADO 19006 Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 Portugal Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: ISPROPT.COM Created on: 05-Dec-03 Expires on: 05-Dec-04 Last Updated on: Administrative Contact: AlojamentoVisual.com, AlojamentoVisual.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] AlojamentoVisual.com APARTADO 19006 Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 Portugal 911234567 Technical Contact: AlojamentoVisual.com, AlojamentoVisual.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] AlojamentoVisual.com APARTADO 19006 Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 Portugal 911234567 Domain servers in listed order: DNS9.DNSTRAFFIC.NET DNS10.DNSTRAFFIC.NET Don't know if this helps any, but it can't hurt to expose the scum. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
The least VAC could do is instead of this useless detect then ban several days latter policy that clearly does not work, VAC should be banning immediately upon connection when a hack is detected. It would be nice to know that VAC does actually work! Although, it does appear that Valve are fully aware that their STEAM_ID system is completely compromised, and that is why they are no longer updating VAC as it is a total waste of time whilst hackers can rejoin within a minute or two with new STEAM_ID! On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:27:35 -0400, Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" > > Andrews > > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:41 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > > > > > Okay, I have my theory, but I can't test it as the download link is a > > little odd. > > > > http://www.cs-nonsteam.tk/ > > > > While that page is loading look at the bottom of your browser frame. You are > actually connecting to http://www.cs.ispropt.com/site/ > > Whois info: > > http://alojamentovisual.com/ > AlojamentoVisual.com > APARTADO 19006 > Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 > Portugal > Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com) > Domain Name: ISPROPT.COM > Created on: 05-Dec-03 > Expires on: 05-Dec-04 > Last Updated on: > Administrative Contact: > AlojamentoVisual.com, > AlojamentoVisual.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AlojamentoVisual.com > APARTADO 19006 > Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 > Portugal > 911234567 > Technical Contact: > AlojamentoVisual.com, AlojamentoVisual.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AlojamentoVisual.com > APARTADO 19006 > Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 > Portugal > 911234567 > Domain servers in listed order: > DNS9.DNSTRAFFIC.NET > DNS10.DNSTRAFFIC.NET > > Don't know if this helps any, but it can't hurt to expose the scum. > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" > Andrews > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:41 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > > Okay, I have my theory, but I can't test it as the download link is a > little odd. > > http://www.cs-nonsteam.tk/ > While that page is loading look at the bottom of your browser frame. You are actually connecting to http://www.cs.ispropt.com/site/ Whois info: http://alojamentovisual.com/ AlojamentoVisual.com APARTADO 19006 Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 Portugal Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: ISPROPT.COM Created on: 05-Dec-03 Expires on: 05-Dec-04 Last Updated on: Administrative Contact: AlojamentoVisual.com, AlojamentoVisual.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] AlojamentoVisual.com APARTADO 19006 Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 Portugal 911234567 Technical Contact: AlojamentoVisual.com, AlojamentoVisual.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] AlojamentoVisual.com APARTADO 19006 Lisbon, Lisbon 1991-901 Portugal 911234567 Domain servers in listed order: DNS9.DNSTRAFFIC.NET DNS10.DNSTRAFFIC.NET Don't know if this helps any, but it can't hurt to expose the scum. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
Shhh!, NS is part of my plan to take over the world. - voogru -Original Message- From: Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 7:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens It's very safe to say that all mods would work, unless voogru is in on some conspriacy and hacked NS (NS forums anyone?) ;) Dunno where else I could post this to get VALVe to act on it - posting on the forums would be complete suicide. :/ - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Sent: Wednesday, 29 September 2004 8:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens NOOO! I doubt that the people who do this in counter strike are sophisticated enough to even play ns :-D im assuming that this will work with all mods since ns worked? ill do some testing this weekend now i have physics homework >< - Original Message - From: "Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 4:06 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > Heh, decided to speed up the process: > > > ] status > hostname: [-STIPE-] NS Server #1 > version : 47/1.1.2.0 2834 insecure > tcp/ip : 192.168.1.2:27015 > map : co_core at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z > players : 11 active (13 max) > > # name userid uniqueid frag time ping loss adr > # 1 "bunna" 604 STEAM_0:0:1355772 0 29:39 490 > # 2 "- sinner | bat0 -" 598 STEAM_0:1:132893 0 34:36 430 > # 3"eKo" 601 STEAM_0:0:1971614 0 30:47 550 > # 4 ">aKL< ShaDy" 603 STEAM_0:0:2822944 0 30:21 290 > # 5 ">aKL # 6 ".:asdf:." 610 STEAM_0:0:635277 0 05:55 630 > # 7 "maximus" 606 STEAM_0:0:2991468 0 23:16 880 > # 8 "nWo [Evolution] -OMGORFYL-`" 607 STEAM_0:1:2378968 0 13:21 923 > 0 > # 9 "wOk )) Visualblade" 608 STEAM_0:0:391327 0 11:33 560 > #10 "wOk )) Micro_Man" 609 STEAM_0:0:425180 0 10:45 570 > #11 "test" 611 STEAM_0:1:3945861 0 00:09 > > Worked perfectly. I'm "test" > > Same steamid as I had with Counter-Strike, so yeah, it appears this will > work with any mod, all you have to do is create lots of steam accounts > and you have unlimited ID's for any mod :/ > > They might want to fix this before Half-Life 2 gets in on the bug action > - not sure if CS:source is playable or not yet... > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" > Andrews > Sent: Wednesday, 29 September 2004 5:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > The method involved requires a "blank" account, so chances of them being > able to successfully ban you are negligible, hence the problem. > > I'm going to try it later on tonight (tis 6pm now) but I have some other > stuff to do first - we'll see how it goes :/ > > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NeoMatrix99 > Sent: Wednesday, 29 September 2004 5:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > Bahamut, >I've been trying but have yet to get this to work with ns. This is > good for us so far I suppose. However I did notice links to dl cs:source > which unfortunately would let ppl try to game for free. I will however > not be trying this since I don't want my account banned. > NeoMatrix99.j2 > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
It's very safe to say that all mods would work, unless voogru is in on some conspriacy and hacked NS (NS forums anyone?) ;) Dunno where else I could post this to get VALVe to act on it - posting on the forums would be complete suicide. :/ - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Sent: Wednesday, 29 September 2004 8:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens NOOO! I doubt that the people who do this in counter strike are sophisticated enough to even play ns :-D im assuming that this will work with all mods since ns worked? ill do some testing this weekend now i have physics homework >< - Original Message - From: "Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 4:06 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > Heh, decided to speed up the process: > > > ] status > hostname: [-STIPE-] NS Server #1 > version : 47/1.1.2.0 2834 insecure > tcp/ip : 192.168.1.2:27015 > map : co_core at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z > players : 11 active (13 max) > > # name userid uniqueid frag time ping loss adr > # 1 "bunna" 604 STEAM_0:0:1355772 0 29:39 490 > # 2 "- sinner | bat0 -" 598 STEAM_0:1:132893 0 34:36 430 > # 3"eKo" 601 STEAM_0:0:1971614 0 30:47 550 > # 4 ">aKL< ShaDy" 603 STEAM_0:0:2822944 0 30:21 290 > # 5 ">aKL # 6 ".:asdf:." 610 STEAM_0:0:635277 0 05:55 630 > # 7 "maximus" 606 STEAM_0:0:2991468 0 23:16 880 > # 8 "nWo [Evolution] -OMGORFYL-`" 607 STEAM_0:1:2378968 0 13:21 923 > 0 > # 9 "wOk )) Visualblade" 608 STEAM_0:0:391327 0 11:33 560 > #10 "wOk )) Micro_Man" 609 STEAM_0:0:425180 0 10:45 570 > #11 "test" 611 STEAM_0:1:3945861 0 00:09 > > Worked perfectly. I'm "test" > > Same steamid as I had with Counter-Strike, so yeah, it appears this will > work with any mod, all you have to do is create lots of steam accounts > and you have unlimited ID's for any mod :/ > > They might want to fix this before Half-Life 2 gets in on the bug action > - not sure if CS:source is playable or not yet... > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" > Andrews > Sent: Wednesday, 29 September 2004 5:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > The method involved requires a "blank" account, so chances of them being > able to successfully ban you are negligible, hence the problem. > > I'm going to try it later on tonight (tis 6pm now) but I have some other > stuff to do first - we'll see how it goes :/ > > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NeoMatrix99 > Sent: Wednesday, 29 September 2004 5:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > Bahamut, >I've been trying but have yet to get this to work with ns. This is > good for us so far I suppose. However I did notice links to dl cs:source > which unfortunately would let ppl try to game for free. I will however > not be trying this since I don't want my account banned. > NeoMatrix99.j2 > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
NOOO! I doubt that the people who do this in counter strike are sophisticated enough to even play ns :-D im assuming that this will work with all mods since ns worked? ill do some testing this weekend now i have physics homework >< - Original Message - From: "Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 4:06 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens Heh, decided to speed up the process: ] status hostname: [-STIPE-] NS Server #1 version : 47/1.1.2.0 2834 insecure tcp/ip : 192.168.1.2:27015 map : co_core at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 11 active (13 max) # name userid uniqueid frag time ping loss adr # 1 "bunna" 604 STEAM_0:0:1355772 0 29:39 490 # 2 "- sinner | bat0 -" 598 STEAM_0:1:132893 0 34:36 430 # 3"eKo" 601 STEAM_0:0:1971614 0 30:47 550 # 4 ">aKL< ShaDy" 603 STEAM_0:0:2822944 0 30:21 290 # 5 ">aKL Worked perfectly. I'm "test" Same steamid as I had with Counter-Strike, so yeah, it appears this will work with any mod, all you have to do is create lots of steam accounts and you have unlimited ID's for any mod :/ They might want to fix this before Half-Life 2 gets in on the bug action - not sure if CS:source is playable or not yet... - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews Sent: Wednesday, 29 September 2004 5:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens The method involved requires a "blank" account, so chances of them being able to successfully ban you are negligible, hence the problem. I'm going to try it later on tonight (tis 6pm now) but I have some other stuff to do first - we'll see how it goes :/ - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NeoMatrix99 Sent: Wednesday, 29 September 2004 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens Bahamut, I've been trying but have yet to get this to work with ns. This is good for us so far I suppose. However I did notice links to dl cs:source which unfortunately would let ppl try to game for free. I will however not be trying this since I don't want my account banned. NeoMatrix99.j2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
Heh, decided to speed up the process: ] status hostname: [-STIPE-] NS Server #1 version : 47/1.1.2.0 2834 insecure tcp/ip : 192.168.1.2:27015 map : co_core at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 11 active (13 max) # name userid uniqueid frag time ping loss adr # 1 "bunna" 604 STEAM_0:0:1355772 0 29:39 490 # 2 "- sinner | bat0 -" 598 STEAM_0:1:132893 0 34:36 430 # 3"eKo" 601 STEAM_0:0:1971614 0 30:47 550 # 4 ">aKL< ShaDy" 603 STEAM_0:0:2822944 0 30:21 290 # 5 ">aKLmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews Sent: Wednesday, 29 September 2004 5:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens The method involved requires a "blank" account, so chances of them being able to successfully ban you are negligible, hence the problem. I'm going to try it later on tonight (tis 6pm now) but I have some other stuff to do first - we'll see how it goes :/ - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NeoMatrix99 Sent: Wednesday, 29 September 2004 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens Bahamut, I've been trying but have yet to get this to work with ns. This is good for us so far I suppose. However I did notice links to dl cs:source which unfortunately would let ppl try to game for free. I will however not be trying this since I don't want my account banned. NeoMatrix99.j2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
The method involved requires a "blank" account, so chances of them being able to successfully ban you are negligible, hence the problem. I'm going to try it later on tonight (tis 6pm now) but I have some other stuff to do first - we'll see how it goes :/ - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NeoMatrix99 Sent: Wednesday, 29 September 2004 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens Bahamut, I've been trying but have yet to get this to work with ns. This is good for us so far I suppose. However I did notice links to dl cs:source which unfortunately would let ppl try to game for free. I will however not be trying this since I don't want my account banned. NeoMatrix99.j2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
Bahamut, I've been trying but have yet to get this to work with ns. This is good for us so far I suppose. However I did notice links to dl cs:source which unfortunately would let ppl try to game for free. I will however not be trying this since I don't want my account banned. NeoMatrix99.j2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
Hahah No offence but some of us actually have a business to run and players to answer to. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K. > Mike Bradley > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 12:55 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > Lets all shut off our servers at Midnight Wed night and on > again Thursday Midnight. > Spread the word. > Power to the people. > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce > "Bahamut" > Andrews > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 1:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > Generally speaking I'd really doubt 12 year old kids will be > reading the Half Life Dedicated Server mailing list, and in > the unlikely event that they do, they won't have the patience > to download this program (mirrors are slow as). > > An extreme strike where all server operators shut down their > Counter-Strike servers would be effective in telling VALVe > that we aren't too happy with their recent disappearance from > the VAC scene, though it's not entirely practical. > > Throwing this at a large portion of the community (server > operators and mod developers that are on this list) is one of > the more effective methods of getting a response from the > company, rather then idle support requests that take months > for action due to the sheer volume of them. > > Since the main website for this project is down, I can't go > and check out the cd key file I observed on their forum > yesterday, which could be viewed as a shame I suppose, though > as long as they're down I'm happy =) > > > I suppose your reply was supposed to be rather sarcastic, but meh =) > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of voogru > Sent: Tuesday, 28 September 2004 2:53 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > Yes, let give out more links to this shit so more little 12 > year old kiddies start using it. > > The best bet would be for all of the server operators to shut > down the servers until this is resolved, they can't cheat and > lame up games if they are no servers to play on. > > Or, it might be a good idea to look at the sv_password > variable. (Or any type of mod to restrict who and who can't > join the server). > > Sure they can run their own crappy servers, but who cares? > > - voogru. > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > MWEB: S.A.'s trusted Internet Service Provider. Just Like that. To join, click here or call 08600 32000. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
Ok but what about all the people who actually play properly I don't want to lose out on my ability just because there seems to be a problem with a few servers! Regards, Matt White [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of voogru Sent: 27 September 2004 17:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens Yes, let give out more links to this shit so more little 12 year old kiddies start using it. The best bet would be for all of the server operators to shut down the servers until this is resolved, they can't cheat and lame up games if they are no servers to play on. Or, it might be a good idea to look at the sv_password variable. (Or any type of mod to restrict who and who can't join the server). Sure they can run their own crappy servers, but who cares? - voogru. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
Nah, you see what appears to be a completely valid STEAM_ID This would be a lovely addition to the fuckups that occur with the STEAM_ID system On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:41:36 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've had players on recently with "STEAM_ID_PENDING" that have been playing for over > 2 or 3 map changes (DoD server). I haven't been following this thread 100%, but > exactly what does the server/admin see with these players on? > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:13:59 -0400 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > > Hello? Anyone from Valve there? > > > > They must be busy updating their résumé's > > > > And otherwise job hunting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" > > Andrews > > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 12:42 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > > > 'lo, > > > > Like I promised, I downloaded and tested this "non-steam" and successfully > > made it connect to a steam based server -without a cd key - console output > > below. > > > > This definitely has to be how our little hackers are getting around. > > This program combined with a VAC disabler and multihook is all they need to > > become the biggest pains in the arse around. > > > > VALVe definitely need to get onto this and stop it from being a viable way > > to play Counter-Strike online. Not with some hacky fix, but with a properly > > thought out solution. > > > > The FIRST step is to recognise the threat. We now have enough evidence to > > do that. Next move belongs to VALVe. > > > > > > client admin mod password has been set > > ] name Carrot > > NET Ports: server 27015, client 27005 > > Server IP address 192.168.0.1:27015 > > Connecting to 192.38.163.22:27033... > > Connection accepted by 192.38.163.22:27033 BUILD 2834 SERVER (0 CRC) > > Server # 7 > > > > *** > > You are joining a server that implements Valve's anti-cheat system (VAC). > > Please note that the use of Cheats is a violation of your End User License > > Agreement for the software and/or your Steam Subscriber Agreement. > > > > If Valve or the game host detects your use of Cheats on an VAC-enabled > > server, your Steam Subscription and/or your product key for the software > > will be banned from playing on VAC-enabled servers for one (1) year. > > *** > > Carrot connected > > Carrot is joining the Terrorist force > > Scoring will not start until both teams have players ] status > > hostname: Galnet FFA #1 > > version : 47/1.1.2.5 2834 secure > > tcp/ip : 192.38.163.22:27033 > > ipx : :0002b3b73141:27033 > > map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z > > players : 1 active (16 max) > > > > # name userid uniqueid frag time ping loss adr > > # 1 "Carrot" 804 STEAM_0:1:3945861 0 02:24 3570 > > 1 users > > Scoring will not start until both teams have players Scoring will not s > > > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
That's a different bug. These players have a legitimate STEAMID. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm thinking the SteamID you get is linked with your account, not your key - the key just grants you access to the content...right? Not really sure, but all the same, STEAM_ID_PENDING is an unverified user, you usually get it on listen servers where the host ID isn't verified. With this thing, the user gains a legitimate STEAMID without entering a CD key. - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 29 September 2004 12:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens I've had players on recently with "STEAM_ID_PENDING" that have been playing for over 2 or 3 map changes (DoD server). I haven't been following this thread 100%, but exactly what does the server/admin see with these players on? - Original Message - From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:13:59 -0400 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > Hello? Anyone from Valve there? > > They must be busy updating their résumé's > > And otherwise job hunting. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" > Andrews > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 12:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > 'lo, > > Like I promised, I downloaded and tested this "non-steam" and successfully > made it connect to a steam based server -without a cd key - console output > below. > > This definitely has to be how our little hackers are getting around. > This program combined with a VAC disabler and multihook is all they need to > become the biggest pains in the arse around. > > VALVe definitely need to get onto this and stop it from being a viable way > to play Counter-Strike online. Not with some hacky fix, but with a properly > thought out solution. > > The FIRST step is to recognise the threat. We now have enough evidence to > do that. Next move belongs to VALVe. > > > client admin mod password has been set > ] name Carrot > NET Ports: server 27015, client 27005 > Server IP address 192.168.0.1:27015 > Connecting to 192.38.163.22:27033... > Connection accepted by 192.38.163.22:27033 BUILD 2834 SERVER (0 CRC) > Server # 7 > > *** > You are joining a server that implements Valve's anti-cheat system (VAC). > Please note that the use of Cheats is a violation of your End User License > Agreement for the software and/or your Steam Subscriber Agreement. > > If Valve or the game host detects your use of Cheats on an VAC-enabled > server, your Steam Subscription and/or your product key for the software > will be banned from playing on VAC-enabled servers for one (1) year. > *** > Carrot connected > Carrot is joining the Terrorist force > Scoring will not start until both teams have players ] status > hostname: Galnet FFA #1 > version : 47/1.1.2.5 2834 secure > tcp/ip : 192.38.163.22:27033 > ipx : :0002b3b73141:27033 > map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z > players : 1 active (16 max) > > # name userid uniqueid frag time ping loss adr > # 1 "Carrot" 804 STEAM_0:1:3945861 0 02:24 3570 > 1 users > Scoring will not start until both teams have players Scoring will not s > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
NOW THIS IS FUNNY! WoOt! --- "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello? Anyone from Valve there? > > They must be busy updating their résumé's > > And otherwise job hunting. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Bruce "Bahamut" > Andrews > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 12:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > 'lo, > > Like I promised, I downloaded and tested this > "non-steam" and successfully > made it connect to a steam based server -without a > cd key - console output > below. > > This definitely has to be how our little hackers are > getting around. > This program combined with a VAC disabler and > multihook is all they need to > become the biggest pains in the arse around. > > VALVe definitely need to get onto this and stop it > from being a viable way > to play Counter-Strike online. Not with some hacky > fix, but with a properly > thought out solution. > > The FIRST step is to recognise the threat. We now > have enough evidence to > do that. Next move belongs to VALVe. > > > client admin mod password has been set > ] name Carrot > NET Ports: server 27015, client 27005 > Server IP address 192.168.0.1:27015 > Connecting to 192.38.163.22:27033... > Connection accepted by 192.38.163.22:27033 BUILD > 2834 SERVER (0 CRC) > Server # 7 > > *** > You are joining a server that implements Valve's > anti-cheat system (VAC). > Please note that the use of Cheats is a violation of > your End User License > Agreement for the software and/or your Steam > Subscriber Agreement. > > If Valve or the game host detects your use of Cheats > on an VAC-enabled > server, your Steam Subscription and/or your product > key for the software > will be banned from playing on VAC-enabled servers > for one (1) year. > *** > Carrot connected > Carrot is joining the Terrorist force > Scoring will not start until both teams have players > ] status > hostname: Galnet FFA #1 > version : 47/1.1.2.5 2834 secure > tcp/ip : 192.38.163.22:27033 > ipx : :0002b3b73141:27033 > map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z > players : 1 active (16 max) > > # name userid uniqueid frag time ping loss adr > # 1 "Carrot" 804 STEAM_0:1:3945861 0 02:24 357 > 0 > 1 users > Scoring will not start until both teams have players > Scoring will not s > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view > the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > = YIM: cybergamezone2002 Gaming Website: http://www.cybergamezone.com My League: http://league.cybergamezone.com Hotwheels Website: http://store.cybergamezone.com Gaming Clan Website: http://www.cybergamezone.net __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
I've had players on recently with "STEAM_ID_PENDING" that have been playing for over 2 or 3 map changes (DoD server). I haven't been following this thread 100%, but exactly what does the server/admin see with these players on? - Original Message - From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:13:59 -0400 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > Hello? Anyone from Valve there? > > They must be busy updating their résumé's > > And otherwise job hunting. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" > Andrews > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 12:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > 'lo, > > Like I promised, I downloaded and tested this "non-steam" and successfully > made it connect to a steam based server -without a cd key - console output > below. > > This definitely has to be how our little hackers are getting around. > This program combined with a VAC disabler and multihook is all they need to > become the biggest pains in the arse around. > > VALVe definitely need to get onto this and stop it from being a viable way > to play Counter-Strike online. Not with some hacky fix, but with a properly > thought out solution. > > The FIRST step is to recognise the threat. We now have enough evidence to > do that. Next move belongs to VALVe. > > > client admin mod password has been set > ] name Carrot > NET Ports: server 27015, client 27005 > Server IP address 192.168.0.1:27015 > Connecting to 192.38.163.22:27033... > Connection accepted by 192.38.163.22:27033 BUILD 2834 SERVER (0 CRC) > Server # 7 > > *** > You are joining a server that implements Valve's anti-cheat system (VAC). > Please note that the use of Cheats is a violation of your End User License > Agreement for the software and/or your Steam Subscriber Agreement. > > If Valve or the game host detects your use of Cheats on an VAC-enabled > server, your Steam Subscription and/or your product key for the software > will be banned from playing on VAC-enabled servers for one (1) year. > *** > Carrot connected > Carrot is joining the Terrorist force > Scoring will not start until both teams have players ] status > hostname: Galnet FFA #1 > version : 47/1.1.2.5 2834 secure > tcp/ip : 192.38.163.22:27033 > ipx : :0002b3b73141:27033 > map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z > players : 1 active (16 max) > > # name userid uniqueid frag time ping loss adr > # 1 "Carrot" 804 STEAM_0:1:3945861 0 02:24 3570 > 1 users > Scoring will not start until both teams have players Scoring will not s > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
Hello? Anyone from Valve there? They must be busy updating their résumé's And otherwise job hunting. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 12:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens 'lo, Like I promised, I downloaded and tested this "non-steam" and successfully made it connect to a steam based server -without a cd key - console output below. This definitely has to be how our little hackers are getting around. This program combined with a VAC disabler and multihook is all they need to become the biggest pains in the arse around. VALVe definitely need to get onto this and stop it from being a viable way to play Counter-Strike online. Not with some hacky fix, but with a properly thought out solution. The FIRST step is to recognise the threat. We now have enough evidence to do that. Next move belongs to VALVe. client admin mod password has been set ] name Carrot NET Ports: server 27015, client 27005 Server IP address 192.168.0.1:27015 Connecting to 192.38.163.22:27033... Connection accepted by 192.38.163.22:27033 BUILD 2834 SERVER (0 CRC) Server # 7 *** You are joining a server that implements Valve's anti-cheat system (VAC). Please note that the use of Cheats is a violation of your End User License Agreement for the software and/or your Steam Subscriber Agreement. If Valve or the game host detects your use of Cheats on an VAC-enabled server, your Steam Subscription and/or your product key for the software will be banned from playing on VAC-enabled servers for one (1) year. *** Carrot connected Carrot is joining the Terrorist force Scoring will not start until both teams have players ] status hostname: Galnet FFA #1 version : 47/1.1.2.5 2834 secure tcp/ip : 192.38.163.22:27033 ipx : :0002b3b73141:27033 map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 1 active (16 max) # name userid uniqueid frag time ping loss adr # 1 "Carrot" 804 STEAM_0:1:3945861 0 02:24 3570 1 users Scoring will not start until both teams have players Scoring will not s - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
'lo, Like I promised, I downloaded and tested this "non-steam" and successfully made it connect to a steam based server -without a cd key - console output below. This definitely has to be how our little hackers are getting around. This program combined with a VAC disabler and multihook is all they need to become the biggest pains in the arse around. VALVe definitely need to get onto this and stop it from being a viable way to play Counter-Strike online. Not with some hacky fix, but with a properly thought out solution. The FIRST step is to recognise the threat. We now have enough evidence to do that. Next move belongs to VALVe. client admin mod password has been set ] name Carrot NET Ports: server 27015, client 27005 Server IP address 192.168.0.1:27015 Connecting to 192.38.163.22:27033... Connection accepted by 192.38.163.22:27033 BUILD 2834 SERVER (0 CRC) Server # 7 *** You are joining a server that implements Valve's anti-cheat system (VAC). Please note that the use of Cheats is a violation of your End User License Agreement for the software and/or your Steam Subscriber Agreement. If Valve or the game host detects your use of Cheats on an VAC-enabled server, your Steam Subscription and/or your product key for the software will be banned from playing on VAC-enabled servers for one (1) year. *** Carrot connected Carrot is joining the Terrorist force Scoring will not start until both teams have players ] status hostname: Galnet FFA #1 version : 47/1.1.2.5 2834 secure tcp/ip : 192.38.163.22:27033 ipx : :0002b3b73141:27033 map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 1 active (16 max) # name userid uniqueid frag time ping loss adr # 1 "Carrot" 804 STEAM_0:1:3945861 0 02:24 3570 1 users Scoring will not start until both teams have players Scoring will not s - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roc Sent: Tuesday, 28 September 2004 2:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens Now this makes me laugh a bit (no offense). See, I mentioned about shutting servers a while back to send a message and although the subject may have been different the end result is the same. I also remember what quite a few had to say/flame. I even heard some "mighty" gsp's (lol) tell me where I should go with my little DSL server. But, now, it is suddenly Ok I guess. My, what a funny bunch we have here. Regards - Original Message - From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 6:55 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > Lets all shut off our servers at Midnight Wed night and on again Thursday > Midnight. > Spread the word. > Power to the people. > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" > Andrews > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 1:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > Generally speaking I'd really doubt 12 year old kids will be reading the > Half Life Dedicated Server mailing list, and in the unlikely event that > they > do, they won't have the patience to download this program (mirrors are > slow > as). > > An extreme strike where all server operators shut down their > Counter-Strike > servers would be effective in telling VALVe that we aren't too happy with > their recent disappearance from the VAC scene, though it's not entirely > practical. > > Throwing this at a large portion of the community (server operators and > mod > developers that are on this list) is one of the more effective methods of > getting a response from the company, rather then idle support requests > that > take months for action due to the sheer volume of them. > > Since the main website for this project is down, I can't go and check out > the cd key file I observed on their forum yesterday, which could be viewed > as a shame I suppose, though as long as they're down I'm happy =) > > > I suppose your reply was supposed to be rather sarcastic, but meh =) > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of voogru > Sent: Tuesday, 28 September 2004 2:53 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > Yes, let give out more links to this shit so more little 12 year old > kiddies > start using it. > > The best bet would be for all of the server operators to shut down the > server
Re: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
Now this makes me laugh a bit (no offense). See, I mentioned about shutting servers a while back to send a message and although the subject may have been different the end result is the same. I also remember what quite a few had to say/flame. I even heard some "mighty" gsp's (lol) tell me where I should go with my little DSL server. But, now, it is suddenly Ok I guess. My, what a funny bunch we have here. Regards - Original Message - From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 6:55 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens Lets all shut off our servers at Midnight Wed night and on again Thursday Midnight. Spread the word. Power to the people. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 1:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens Generally speaking I'd really doubt 12 year old kids will be reading the Half Life Dedicated Server mailing list, and in the unlikely event that they do, they won't have the patience to download this program (mirrors are slow as). An extreme strike where all server operators shut down their Counter-Strike servers would be effective in telling VALVe that we aren't too happy with their recent disappearance from the VAC scene, though it's not entirely practical. Throwing this at a large portion of the community (server operators and mod developers that are on this list) is one of the more effective methods of getting a response from the company, rather then idle support requests that take months for action due to the sheer volume of them. Since the main website for this project is down, I can't go and check out the cd key file I observed on their forum yesterday, which could be viewed as a shame I suppose, though as long as they're down I'm happy =) I suppose your reply was supposed to be rather sarcastic, but meh =) - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of voogru Sent: Tuesday, 28 September 2004 2:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens Yes, let give out more links to this shit so more little 12 year old kiddies start using it. The best bet would be for all of the server operators to shut down the servers until this is resolved, they can't cheat and lame up games if they are no servers to play on. Or, it might be a good idea to look at the sv_password variable. (Or any type of mod to restrict who and who can't join the server). Sure they can run their own crappy servers, but who cares? - voogru. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
hey.. I'm not old.. I'm pleasantly mature.. :--) -Original Message- From: David Fencik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 12:49 PM Too bad we couldn't get all of those old pro-WON guys ... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
ill shut off my server but there is now way all of use will ahve a major impact. Lets all dos the other servers. Great idea!! On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:53:37 -0400, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my humble opinion Valve goofed majorly when the let Steam incorporate old > WON keys. > Input old WON key ... output a valid steam ID > I am guessing this is how it was compromised. > > Throw away all your WON keys ... Soon they will have to start from scratch. > Get out yer check books too. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Fencik > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 12:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > Take it easy bud...this is not the end of steam. It may have been hacked, > but this is how security evolves. > > Too bad we couldn't get all of those old pro-WON guys on our side of the > fence...maybe they could do some DoS attacks on the mirrors of this > exploit...lol. > > Dave > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Spaulding > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 11:47 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > LOL...but STEAM was going to be such an "improvement" to the gaming > world...LOL > > I could use this opportunity to help, if I could, but Valve brought this > about when WON seemed a valid option to begin with and broke the golden rule > of "if it isn't broke don't fix it" as they've done so many times in the > past. I don't remember us having these issues before. Now we have a site up > and running on the internet that is EASY to track their hosting source and > owner and nobody is doing a damn thing about it. Now THAT'S what I call > efficiency of a software company. So many people of professional positions > in this list and this has been allowed to continue. That site lists 100,000 > hits in one month. GG Valve. > > Is being cynical in this situation inappropriate? I'm not sure. Flame away > if that's your prerogative but I didn't ask for this STEAM garbage, I never > thought it was a good idea, I tested the full 10 months and was appalled to > see it released to the public and then forced on all of us. But hey, what > could we do but go with the flow. Now we have this out. WOW. I'll try to > enjoy the game for the last few weeks before this is on a good portion of > the kids playing STEAM before the roof falls in on Valve. But you know, > really, you get what you deserve in the end and I think that maybe Valve > deserved this kick in the ass to SHOW them that they can be wrong and > fallible sometimes and that by ignoring the community that GIVES their > customers a place to play is just plain STUPID! I've said it over a year ago > and I'll say it again, I don't see Valve Software running not ONE server for > their customers and never have. WE run those servers and now we have good > reason not to anymore. > > For those of us running servers for the STEAM line of games...may God help > us allbecause we damn sure know that Valve won't be doing it any time > soon. (Based on a long history of dumb decisions) /me makes a mental note to > write down amount of servers running STEAM today and reference that number > weekly to see how many people stop giving legitimate and these new > illegitimate players a place to play. > > Ray S. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" > Andrews > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:49 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > Heh, download is going slower than expected, you won't hear results for > 12+ hours o.O > > Stupid 10k/sec downloads. Though, I suppose that's a good thing in a way... > > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" > Andrews > Sent: Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:41 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens > > Okay, I have my theory, but I can't test it as the download link is a little > odd. > > http://www.cs-nonsteam.tk/ > > By visiting the site you get the main idea: > > "Non Steam:1 Steam: 0 > Written by Diesel Power > Wednesday, 01 September 2004 > Now its possible to play Non Steam in Steam servers, visit forum section and > go to tutorial section. Enjoy ;) tks to http://www.nonsteampowered
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
In my humble opinion Valve goofed majorly when the let Steam incorporate old WON keys. Input old WON key ... output a valid steam ID I am guessing this is how it was compromised. Throw away all your WON keys ... Soon they will have to start from scratch. Get out yer check books too. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Fencik Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 12:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens Take it easy bud...this is not the end of steam. It may have been hacked, but this is how security evolves. Too bad we couldn't get all of those old pro-WON guys on our side of the fence...maybe they could do some DoS attacks on the mirrors of this exploit...lol. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Spaulding Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens LOL...but STEAM was going to be such an "improvement" to the gaming world...LOL I could use this opportunity to help, if I could, but Valve brought this about when WON seemed a valid option to begin with and broke the golden rule of "if it isn't broke don't fix it" as they've done so many times in the past. I don't remember us having these issues before. Now we have a site up and running on the internet that is EASY to track their hosting source and owner and nobody is doing a damn thing about it. Now THAT'S what I call efficiency of a software company. So many people of professional positions in this list and this has been allowed to continue. That site lists 100,000 hits in one month. GG Valve. Is being cynical in this situation inappropriate? I'm not sure. Flame away if that's your prerogative but I didn't ask for this STEAM garbage, I never thought it was a good idea, I tested the full 10 months and was appalled to see it released to the public and then forced on all of us. But hey, what could we do but go with the flow. Now we have this out. WOW. I'll try to enjoy the game for the last few weeks before this is on a good portion of the kids playing STEAM before the roof falls in on Valve. But you know, really, you get what you deserve in the end and I think that maybe Valve deserved this kick in the ass to SHOW them that they can be wrong and fallible sometimes and that by ignoring the community that GIVES their customers a place to play is just plain STUPID! I've said it over a year ago and I'll say it again, I don't see Valve Software running not ONE server for their customers and never have. WE run those servers and now we have good reason not to anymore. For those of us running servers for the STEAM line of games...may God help us allbecause we damn sure know that Valve won't be doing it any time soon. (Based on a long history of dumb decisions) /me makes a mental note to write down amount of servers running STEAM today and reference that number weekly to see how many people stop giving legitimate and these new illegitimate players a place to play. Ray S. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens Heh, download is going slower than expected, you won't hear results for 12+ hours o.O Stupid 10k/sec downloads. Though, I suppose that's a good thing in a way... - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews Sent: Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens Okay, I have my theory, but I can't test it as the download link is a little odd. http://www.cs-nonsteam.tk/ By visiting the site you get the main idea: "Non Steam:1 Steam: 0 Written by Diesel Power Wednesday, 01 September 2004 Now its possible to play Non Steam in Steam servers, visit forum section and go to tutorial section. Enjoy ;) tks to http://www.nonsteampowered.tk/ Last Updated ( Wednesday, 01 September 2004 )" Many mirrors: http://cs.rin.ru/download-cs16-non-steam-eng.html http://www.cheap.co.uk/download-counter-strike-1.6-non-steam---full-vers ion/ Steam has been well and truly compromised now, assuming these claims are true (I will verify them and report back soon) - For now you will have to ban IP ranges or bans will be useless. I do hope someone at VALVe notices this, and I also hope the people on this list maintain maturity and do not abuse this program - it is illegal after all. - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://
RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
Lets all shut off our servers at Midnight Wed night and on again Thursday Midnight. Spread the word. Power to the people. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 1:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens Generally speaking I'd really doubt 12 year old kids will be reading the Half Life Dedicated Server mailing list, and in the unlikely event that they do, they won't have the patience to download this program (mirrors are slow as). An extreme strike where all server operators shut down their Counter-Strike servers would be effective in telling VALVe that we aren't too happy with their recent disappearance from the VAC scene, though it's not entirely practical. Throwing this at a large portion of the community (server operators and mod developers that are on this list) is one of the more effective methods of getting a response from the company, rather then idle support requests that take months for action due to the sheer volume of them. Since the main website for this project is down, I can't go and check out the cd key file I observed on their forum yesterday, which could be viewed as a shame I suppose, though as long as they're down I'm happy =) I suppose your reply was supposed to be rather sarcastic, but meh =) - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of voogru Sent: Tuesday, 28 September 2004 2:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens Yes, let give out more links to this shit so more little 12 year old kiddies start using it. The best bet would be for all of the server operators to shut down the servers until this is resolved, they can't cheat and lame up games if they are no servers to play on. Or, it might be a good idea to look at the sv_password variable. (Or any type of mod to restrict who and who can't join the server). Sure they can run their own crappy servers, but who cares? - voogru. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
