Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released
Still leaks Just not as badly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JDoc0512 Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 5:37 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released 200~300MB lower usage on average doing good so far --- On Fri, 7/4/08, Mike Stiehm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Mike Stiehm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 3:32 PM How is everyone doing with the memory leak? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released
I've also seen a very significant improvement. Kudos Valve! On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 2:37 PM, JDoc0512 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 200~300MB lower usage on average > doing good so far > > --- On Fri, 7/4/08, Mike Stiehm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Mike Stiehm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released > To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" < > hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 3:32 PM > > How is everyone doing with the memory leak? > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released
200~300MB lower usage on average doing good so far --- On Fri, 7/4/08, Mike Stiehm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Mike Stiehm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 3:32 PM How is everyone doing with the memory leak? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released
How is everyone doing with the memory leak? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released
Been full since the update. The two servers that always give problems are the Windows machines. Both are holding steady at 237Mb, one of which is a 24/7 Goldrush server so no frequent map changes, but the other is a Custom server with a map change every 30 mins. No problems there either ...fingers crossed. -Dog 2008/7/3 Mike Stiehm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Also looking good so far.. Only a few hours of uptime but non-the less > > http://www.matrix-host.com/files/memload.JPG > -- Mine's been looking alright since I started up the > servers right after the update. Uptime ~2.5 hours. Steady memory usage. > http://www.1337gaming.com/files/memory.jpg > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- -Dog TheVille.Org ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released
Also looking good so far.. Only a few hours of uptime but non-the less http://www.matrix-host.com/files/memload.JPG -- Mine's been looking alright since I started up the servers right after the update. Uptime ~2.5 hours. Steady memory usage. http://www.1337gaming.com/files/memory.jpg ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released
Mine's been looking alright since I started up the servers right after the update. Uptime ~2.5 hours. Steady memory usage. http://www.1337gaming.com/files/memory.jpg Ryan Mannion wrote: > Is anyone else still experiencing signs of a memory leak? This patch > had a negligible impact on memory usage on my servers: > > http://www.ardiem.org/images/2f2f_memleak2.png > http://www.ardiem.org/images/2f2f_memleak2_2h.png > > Ryan > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The required update for Team Fortress 2 and its dedicated server are now >> available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive it. The specific >> changes include: >> >> - Fixed a memory leak affecting both clients and servers >> - Fixed a malicious packet exploit >> >> Jason >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released
I know for a fact when I blocked the "equip" command, the memory usage after 24 hours was 400MB, as opposed to 1.4GB prior to blocking "equip" We'll see what happens now that the leak is supposedly fixed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Mannion Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:48 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released Is anyone else still experiencing signs of a memory leak? This patch had a negligible impact on memory usage on my servers: http://www.ardiem.org/images/2f2f_memleak2.png http://www.ardiem.org/images/2f2f_memleak2_2h.png Ryan On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The required update for Team Fortress 2 and its dedicated server are now > available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive it. The specific > changes include: > > - Fixed a memory leak affecting both clients and servers > - Fixed a malicious packet exploit > > Jason > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released
Is anyone else still experiencing signs of a memory leak? This patch had a negligible impact on memory usage on my servers: http://www.ardiem.org/images/2f2f_memleak2.png http://www.ardiem.org/images/2f2f_memleak2_2h.png Ryan On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The required update for Team Fortress 2 and its dedicated server are now > available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive it. The specific > changes include: > > - Fixed a memory leak affecting both clients and servers > - Fixed a malicious packet exploit > > Jason > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released
Odoyle rules!!> HI MIKE ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released
heavy pack, lol? how about we fix the slot key update... lol - Original Message From: Andreas Grimm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 6:29:19 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released pf ... and where is the heavy pack? :D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:23 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released The required update for Team Fortress 2 and its dedicated server are now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive it. The specific changes include: - Fixed a memory leak affecting both clients and servers - Fixed a malicious packet exploit Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released
HI MIKE On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Mike Stiehm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OMG i hope this works :)> Memory leak fixed?! Awesome! > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released
OMG i hope this works :)> Memory leak fixed?! Awesome! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released
pf ... and where is the heavy pack? :D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:23 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released The required update for Team Fortress 2 and its dedicated server are now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive it. The specific changes include: - Fixed a memory leak affecting both clients and servers - Fixed a malicious packet exploit Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released
Thank you! I really hope this works! Aaron Rapp -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:23 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released The required update for Team Fortress 2 and its dedicated server are now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive it. The specific changes include: - Fixed a memory leak affecting both clients and servers - Fixed a malicious packet exploit Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Released
Memory leak fixed?! Awesome! On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The required update for Team Fortress 2 and its dedicated server are now > available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive it. The specific > changes include: > > - Fixed a memory leak affecting both clients and servers > - Fixed a malicious packet exploit > > Jason > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
Tags implemented as they are now, will not help you find vanilla servers. If a new plug-in is made for TF2, the tags will not be modified automatically, and they will not be modified voluntarily either if server ops are put into another list for it which causes them to lose their server traffic. Every single server in the internet list could be custom, instagib deathmatch, without the server admins using plug-ins to "hide" tags. - voogru. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Whelan Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:17 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released I read it.. I understand it... there :p There does come a time where many find themselves craving a vanilla server, just to play it as it was intended by the developers. For other mods this would not make sense, but tf2 has so many servers that its needed. Same goes for cs:s. Its like google search results, if your not on the first two pages you don't get seen, at least here in tf2 there are now greater chances of your server getting seen by the people who are looking for it. If not the tabs, then a filter macro. Its all about allowing me, the player, to find what I'm looking for faster. blablabla... - Original Message From: Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 1:11:13 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released It's not only silly and annoying, its just plain stupid. I've asked people around if someone has actually read the box, I haven't been able to find one yet! VALVe, please, just accept for once you've made a mistake, a screw up. We'll forgive you, things like this can happen. But for god sakes, take that damn tab out of the server browser! Another effect of this tabs, which it looks like you haven't taken in account, is that all 'noob' players are on the internet tab. As with result you have mostly only servers now on that tab were idiots play who keep spamming and screaming shit, abusing bugs etc etc. And the default servers are mostly not really closely monitored by admins, so the abuse keeps going on 24/7. Good improvement on the game impression for new players! I'm sure they love playing in that kind of environment! Saint K. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Mike Stiehm Verzonden: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 8:04 AM Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released If you ask me the new info box is just silly looking and its annoying to read. > Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 00:21:46 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released> > my servers still only show up half the time in the list. i gave up a > long time ago trying.> > Rodge Stumbaugh wrote:> > Tell me about it, but I have to admit, steam blows what activision does for> > online play of COD4 out of the water. Have you ever tried to use their> > server browser? What a piece of crap.> >> > -Original Message-> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L Havener> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:07 AM> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released> >> > There seems to be this trend in PC gaming where developers want to > > control the game experience in online play more and more. The most > > extreme case would be DICE and the ranked servers for BF2 and 2142. > > More and more the options we as admins have to host a game the way we > > want to play it are being taken away. In my opinion, this has stemmed > > from the consoles where developers and publishers have complete control > > over the gaming experience. That model will never work in the PC gaming > > world. I am really frustrated with how out of touch the devs and > > publishers have become. From this problem with the custom tabs in TF2 > > to the complete and utter BS with KAOS and Frontlines to the crappy > > console ports we get for a lot of games anymore I just have to shake my > > head and wonder what the hell happened to PC gaming.> >> > Rodge Stumbaugh wrote:> > > >> I have hosted a server for over 4 years now and I only do it for my own> >> entertainment and sorry Valve, but the best part of running(and playing> >> > > on)> > > >> a server is all the cool mods these kids out there like Mani, Mattie, the> >> sourcemod folks a
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
I read it.. I understand it... there :p There does come a time where many find themselves craving a vanilla server, just to play it as it was intended by the developers. For other mods this would not make sense, but tf2 has so many servers that its needed. Same goes for cs:s. Its like google search results, if your not on the first two pages you don't get seen, at least here in tf2 there are now greater chances of your server getting seen by the people who are looking for it. If not the tabs, then a filter macro. Its all about allowing me, the player, to find what I'm looking for faster. blablabla... - Original Message From: Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 1:11:13 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released It's not only silly and annoying, its just plain stupid. I've asked people around if someone has actually read the box, I haven't been able to find one yet! VALVe, please, just accept for once you've made a mistake, a screw up. We'll forgive you, things like this can happen. But for god sakes, take that damn tab out of the server browser! Another effect of this tabs, which it looks like you haven't taken in account, is that all 'noob' players are on the internet tab. As with result you have mostly only servers now on that tab were idiots play who keep spamming and screaming shit, abusing bugs etc etc. And the default servers are mostly not really closely monitored by admins, so the abuse keeps going on 24/7. Good improvement on the game impression for new players! I'm sure they love playing in that kind of environment! Saint K. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Mike Stiehm Verzonden: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 8:04 AM Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released If you ask me the new info box is just silly looking and its annoying to read. > Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 00:21:46 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released> > my servers still only show up half the time in the list. i gave up a > long time ago trying.> > Rodge Stumbaugh wrote:> > Tell me about it, but I have to admit, steam blows what activision does for> > online play of COD4 out of the water. Have you ever tried to use their> > server browser? What a piece of crap.> >> > -Original Message-> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L Havener> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:07 AM> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released> >> > There seems to be this trend in PC gaming where developers want to > > control the game experience in online play more and more. The most > > extreme case would be DICE and the ranked servers for BF2 and 2142. > > More and more the options we as admins have to host a game the way we > > want to play it are being taken away. In my opinion, this has stemmed > > from the consoles where developers and publishers have complete control > > over the gaming experience. That model will never work in the PC gaming > > world. I am really frustrated with how out of touch the devs and > > publishers have become. From this problem with the custom tabs in TF2 > > to the complete and utter BS with KAOS and Frontlines to the crappy > > console ports we get for a lot of games anymore I just have to shake my > > head and wonder what the hell happened to PC gaming.> >> > Rodge Stumbaugh wrote:> > > >> I have hosted a server for over 4 years now and I only do it for my own> >> entertainment and sorry Valve, but the best part of running(and playing> >> > > on)> > > >> a server is all the cool mods these kids out there like Mani, Mattie, the> >> sourcemod folks and now more than ever Beetlefart and of course others> >> > > have> > > >> come up with. I'm not blind though, I do realize there are serious CAL> >> > > type> > > >> gamers out there who only want vanilla servers, but I do believe that> >> > > there> > > >> are more who like the fun stuff that's been added on. Maybe I'm wrong,> >> > > maybe> > > >> Valve could care less about these mods, but if so, why make a completely> >> different tab that only shows up if you are already in the game? That part> >> really confuses me because I run steam from windows, I
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
The german Version of the box didnot even show the whole content cause it didnt fit in there. - Original Message - From: "George "Devgru Seal"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released I tend to agree. The only reason I was even aware of the box was through this mailing list, and I read the update news. But I can tell you that most gamers are just going to click past that tiny box without caring what was in the box. They figure, "if its important I'll get the message again, but I want to play a game right now!" ...And don't take that as an invitation to make that dialog box show up everytime you open the browser either, in hopes someone will see it. On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's not only silly and annoying, its just plain stupid. I've asked people > around if someone has actually read the box, I haven't been able to find > one > yet! > > VALVe, please, just accept for once you've made a mistake, a screw up. > We'll > forgive you, things like this can happen. But for god sakes, take that > damn > tab out of the server browser! > > Another effect of this tabs, which it looks like you haven't taken in > account, is that all 'noob' players are on the internet tab. As with > result > you have mostly only servers now on that tab were idiots play who keep > spamming and screaming shit, abusing bugs etc etc. And the default servers > are mostly not really closely monitored by admins, so the abuse keeps > going > on 24/7. Good improvement on the game impression for new players! I'm sure > they love playing in that kind of environment! > > Saint K. > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Mike Stiehm > Verzonden: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 8:04 AM > Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released > > If you ask me the new info box is just silly looking and > its annoying to read. > > > > > Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 00:21:46 -0400> From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: > Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released> > my servers > still only show up half the time in the list. i gave up a > long time ago > trying.> > Rodge Stumbaugh wrote:> > Tell me about it, but I have to > admit, > steam blows what activision does for> > online play of COD4 out of the > water. Have you ever tried to use their> > server browser? What a piece of > crap.> >> > -Original Message-> > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L > Havener> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:07 AM> > To: Half-Life dedicated > Win32 > server mailing list> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated > Server > update released> >> > There seems to be this trend in PC gaming where > developers want to > > control the game experience in online play more and > more. The most > > extreme case would be DICE and the ranked servers for > BF2 > and 2142. > > More and more the options we as admins have to host a game > the > way we > > want to play it are being taken away. In my opinion, this has > stemmed > > from the consoles where developers and publishers have > complete > control > > over the gaming experience. That model will never work in the > PC > gaming > > world. I am really frustrated with how out of touch the devs > and > > > publishers have become. From this problem with the custom tabs in TF2 > > > > to the complete and utter BS with KAOS and Frontlines to the crappy > > > console ports we get for a lot of games anymore I just have to shake my > > > > head and wonder what the hell happened to PC gaming.> >> > Rodge Stumbaugh > wrote:> > > >> I have hosted a server for over 4 years now and I only do > it > for my own> >> entertainment and sorry Valve, but the best part of > running(and playing> >> > > on)> > > >> a server is all the cool mods > these > kids out there like Mani, Mattie, the> >> sourcemod folks and now more > than > ever Beetlefart and of course others> >> > > have> > > >> come up with. > I'm > not blind though, I do realize there are serious CAL> >> > > type> > > >> > gamers out
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
Actually I think it was only announced on the hlds_announce list (you really should be on this one, as it notifies of all updates regardless.) On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:34 AM, GZ Coldorak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yep, I'm gonna subscribe to the linux list too and not just the general > hlds > one. > Thanks for the tip > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:53 AM, Tom Leighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > If you were subscribed ot the hlds_linux list you would have got it. > > > > > > The Linux Team Fortress 2 dedicated server update is now available. > > This is not a required update, but strongly recommended since it fixes > > the crash on changelevel. > > > > Jason > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > GZ Coldorak wrote: > > > Oh, there's a new update > > > > > > [-] > > > April 2, 2008 - *Team Fortress 2 Update Released* > > > > > > Updates to Team Fortress 2 have been released. The updates will be > > applied > > > automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The specific > changes > > > include: > > > > > > *Team Fortress 2* > > > > > >- Fixed Linux dedicated server crash on map change > > > > > > > > > It worked for my TF2 server, no crash at map change, but I don't have > > time > > > to test more. > > > > > > Christophe > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:10 AM, GZ Coldorak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> I have Metamod Source 1.6.1 with Sourcemod 1.0 > > >> > > >> > > >> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:21 AM, Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>> So for those of you who have been getting disconnects.Are you > > >>> running Mani's Admin Plugin and/or Metamod? > > >>> > > >>> -Darren > > >>> > > >>> On Apr 2, 2008, at 2:14 PM, GZ Coldorak wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > I have the same problem as Andrius, my server crashes at every map > > change > > (or at players vote). > > Never happened so often before last update. > > Linux TF2 HLDS. > > > > Cold > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Andrius Pirus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Server crashes at mapchange :( Please fix it Valve. It crashes and > > > restarts, crashes and restarts all the time when map changes. > > > Quoting Patrick Shelley : Steve wrote: > > > wow.. I have some good cheese that could go with your whine. > > > WOW ! - LOL - LOLZ - ROFL - LMAO !! > > > I've never heard that one before.sigh > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > Links: > > > -- > > > [1] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > >>> ___ > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > >>> please visit: > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
Yep, I'm gonna subscribe to the linux list too and not just the general hlds one. Thanks for the tip On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:53 AM, Tom Leighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you were subscribed ot the hlds_linux list you would have got it. > > > The Linux Team Fortress 2 dedicated server update is now available. > This is not a required update, but strongly recommended since it fixes > the crash on changelevel. > > Jason > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > GZ Coldorak wrote: > > Oh, there's a new update > > > > [-] > > April 2, 2008 - *Team Fortress 2 Update Released* > > > > Updates to Team Fortress 2 have been released. The updates will be > applied > > automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The specific changes > > include: > > > > *Team Fortress 2* > > > >- Fixed Linux dedicated server crash on map change > > > > > > It worked for my TF2 server, no crash at map change, but I don't have > time > > to test more. > > > > Christophe > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:10 AM, GZ Coldorak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > >> I have Metamod Source 1.6.1 with Sourcemod 1.0 > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:21 AM, Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> So for those of you who have been getting disconnects.Are you > >>> running Mani's Admin Plugin and/or Metamod? > >>> > >>> -Darren > >>> > >>> On Apr 2, 2008, at 2:14 PM, GZ Coldorak wrote: > >>> > >>> > I have the same problem as Andrius, my server crashes at every map > change > (or at players vote). > Never happened so often before last update. > Linux TF2 HLDS. > > Cold > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Andrius Pirus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Server crashes at mapchange :( Please fix it Valve. It crashes and > > restarts, crashes and restarts all the time when map changes. > > Quoting Patrick Shelley : Steve wrote: > > wow.. I have some good cheese that could go with your whine. > > WOW ! - LOL - LOLZ - ROFL - LMAO !! > > I've never heard that one before.sigh > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > Links: > > -- > > [1] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>> ___ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >> > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
Yep.. same here.. Metamod source 1.6.1 and Sourcemod 1.0. But i dont think that is the problem. Because when I connect the server is half full and they don't disconnect. If it was sourcemod/metamod all players should have troubles with it. It personally think its client side. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens GZ Coldorak Verzonden: donderdag 3 april 2008 7:10 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released I have Metamod Source 1.6.1 with Sourcemod 1.0 On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:21 AM, Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So for those of you who have been getting disconnects.Are you > running Mani's Admin Plugin and/or Metamod? > > -Darren > > On Apr 2, 2008, at 2:14 PM, GZ Coldorak wrote: > > > I have the same problem as Andrius, my server crashes at every map > > change > > (or at players vote). > > Never happened so often before last update. > > Linux TF2 HLDS. > > > > Cold > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Andrius Pirus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> Server crashes at mapchange :( Please fix it Valve. It crashes and > >> restarts, crashes and restarts all the time when map changes. > >> Quoting Patrick Shelley : Steve wrote: > >> wow.. I have some good cheese that could go with your whine. > >> WOW ! - LOL - LOLZ - ROFL - LMAO !! > >> I've never heard that one before.sigh > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > >> Links: > >> -- > >> [1] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 2996 (20080403) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
If you were subscribed ot the hlds_linux list you would have got it. The Linux Team Fortress 2 dedicated server update is now available. This is not a required update, but strongly recommended since it fixes the crash on changelevel. Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux GZ Coldorak wrote: > Oh, there's a new update > > [-] > April 2, 2008 - *Team Fortress 2 Update Released* > > Updates to Team Fortress 2 have been released. The updates will be applied > automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The specific changes > include: > > *Team Fortress 2* > >- Fixed Linux dedicated server crash on map change > > > It worked for my TF2 server, no crash at map change, but I don't have time > to test more. > > Christophe > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:10 AM, GZ Coldorak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I have Metamod Source 1.6.1 with Sourcemod 1.0 >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:21 AM, Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> So for those of you who have been getting disconnects.Are you >>> running Mani's Admin Plugin and/or Metamod? >>> >>> -Darren >>> >>> On Apr 2, 2008, at 2:14 PM, GZ Coldorak wrote: >>> >>> I have the same problem as Andrius, my server crashes at every map change (or at players vote). Never happened so often before last update. Linux TF2 HLDS. Cold On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Andrius Pirus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Server crashes at mapchange :( Please fix it Valve. It crashes and > restarts, crashes and restarts all the time when map changes. > Quoting Patrick Shelley : Steve wrote: > wow.. I have some good cheese that could go with your whine. > WOW ! - LOL - LOLZ - ROFL - LMAO !! > I've never heard that one before.sigh > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > Links: > -- > [1] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
Oh, there's a new update [-] April 2, 2008 - *Team Fortress 2 Update Released* Updates to Team Fortress 2 have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The specific changes include: *Team Fortress 2* - Fixed Linux dedicated server crash on map change It worked for my TF2 server, no crash at map change, but I don't have time to test more. Christophe On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:10 AM, GZ Coldorak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have Metamod Source 1.6.1 with Sourcemod 1.0 > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:21 AM, Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So for those of you who have been getting disconnects.Are you > > running Mani's Admin Plugin and/or Metamod? > > > > -Darren > > > > On Apr 2, 2008, at 2:14 PM, GZ Coldorak wrote: > > > > > I have the same problem as Andrius, my server crashes at every map > > > change > > > (or at players vote). > > > Never happened so often before last update. > > > Linux TF2 HLDS. > > > > > > Cold > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Andrius Pirus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Server crashes at mapchange :( Please fix it Valve. It crashes and > > >> restarts, crashes and restarts all the time when map changes. > > >> Quoting Patrick Shelley : Steve wrote: > > >> wow.. I have some good cheese that could go with your whine. > > >> WOW ! - LOL - LOLZ - ROFL - LMAO !! > > >> I've never heard that one before.sigh > > >> ___ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> archives, please visit: > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > >> > > >> Links: > > >> -- > > >> [1] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> ___ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> archives, > > >> please visit: > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
I have Metamod Source 1.6.1 with Sourcemod 1.0 On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:21 AM, Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So for those of you who have been getting disconnects.Are you > running Mani's Admin Plugin and/or Metamod? > > -Darren > > On Apr 2, 2008, at 2:14 PM, GZ Coldorak wrote: > > > I have the same problem as Andrius, my server crashes at every map > > change > > (or at players vote). > > Never happened so often before last update. > > Linux TF2 HLDS. > > > > Cold > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Andrius Pirus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> Server crashes at mapchange :( Please fix it Valve. It crashes and > >> restarts, crashes and restarts all the time when map changes. > >> Quoting Patrick Shelley : Steve wrote: > >> wow.. I have some good cheese that could go with your whine. > >> WOW ! - LOL - LOLZ - ROFL - LMAO !! > >> I've never heard that one before.sigh > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > >> Links: > >> -- > >> [1] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
I refuse to run Mani's Admin Plugin till he vests some time in it and fix things. I moved on though still contribute helping others there when I can. - Original Message From: Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 6:21:12 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released So for those of you who have been getting disconnects.Are you running Mani's Admin Plugin and/or Metamod? -Darren On Apr 2, 2008, at 2:14 PM, GZ Coldorak wrote: > I have the same problem as Andrius, my server crashes at every map > change > (or at players vote). > Never happened so often before last update. > Linux TF2 HLDS. > > Cold > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Andrius Pirus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Server crashes at mapchange :( Please fix it Valve. It crashes and >> restarts, crashes and restarts all the time when map changes. >> Quoting Patrick Shelley : Steve wrote: >> wow.. I have some good cheese that could go with your whine. >> WOW ! - LOL - LOLZ - ROFL - LMAO !! >> I've never heard that one before.sigh >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> Links: >> -- >> [1] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
Ok nm I just saw the update from today On Apr 2, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Darren wrote: > So for those of you who have been getting disconnects.Are you > running Mani's Admin Plugin and/or Metamod? > > -Darren > > On Apr 2, 2008, at 2:14 PM, GZ Coldorak wrote: > >> I have the same problem as Andrius, my server crashes at every map >> change >> (or at players vote). >> Never happened so often before last update. >> Linux TF2 HLDS. >> >> Cold >> >> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Andrius Pirus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> Server crashes at mapchange :( Please fix it Valve. It crashes and >>> restarts, crashes and restarts all the time when map changes. >>> Quoting Patrick Shelley : Steve wrote: >>> wow.. I have some good cheese that could go with your whine. >>> WOW ! - LOL - LOLZ - ROFL - LMAO !! >>> I've never heard that one before.sigh >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >>> Links: >>> -- >>> [1] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
So for those of you who have been getting disconnects.Are you running Mani's Admin Plugin and/or Metamod? -Darren On Apr 2, 2008, at 2:14 PM, GZ Coldorak wrote: > I have the same problem as Andrius, my server crashes at every map > change > (or at players vote). > Never happened so often before last update. > Linux TF2 HLDS. > > Cold > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Andrius Pirus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Server crashes at mapchange :( Please fix it Valve. It crashes and >> restarts, crashes and restarts all the time when map changes. >> Quoting Patrick Shelley : Steve wrote: >> wow.. I have some good cheese that could go with your whine. >> WOW ! - LOL - LOLZ - ROFL - LMAO !! >> I've never heard that one before.sigh >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> Links: >> -- >> [1] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
I have the same problem as Andrius, my server crashes at every map change (or at players vote). Never happened so often before last update. Linux TF2 HLDS. Cold On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Andrius Pirus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Server crashes at mapchange :( Please fix it Valve. It crashes and > restarts, crashes and restarts all the time when map changes. > Quoting Patrick Shelley : Steve wrote: > wow.. I have some good cheese that could go with your whine. > WOW ! - LOL - LOLZ - ROFL - LMAO !! > I've never heard that one before.sigh > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > Links: > -- > [1] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
Server crashes at mapchange :( Please fix it Valve. It crashes and restarts, crashes and restarts all the time when map changes. Quoting Patrick Shelley : Steve wrote: wow.. I have some good cheese that could go with your whine. WOW ! - LOL - LOLZ - ROFL - LMAO !! I've never heard that one before.sigh ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Links: -- [1] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Steve wrote: > wow.. I have some good cheese that could go with your whine. WOW ! - LOL - LOLZ - ROFL - LMAO !! I've never heard that one before.sigh ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
I see what you did there. Steve wrote: > wow.. I have some good cheese that could go with your whine. > > > >> Let's hope you're right. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Eid >> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:42 AM >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released >> >> Online petitions always work. >> >> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Patrick Shelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/tf2customtab/ >>> >>> ;) >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> >> -- >> -Richard Eid >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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wow.. I have some good cheese that could go with your whine. > Let's hope you're right. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Eid > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:42 AM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released > > Online petitions always work. > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Patrick Shelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/tf2customtab/ >> >> ;) >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > > -- > -Richard Eid > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Let's hope you're right. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Eid Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:42 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released Online petitions always work. On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Patrick Shelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/tf2customtab/ > > ;) > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- -Richard Eid ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Online petitions always work. On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Patrick Shelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/tf2customtab/ > > ;) > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- -Richard Eid ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/tf2customtab/ ;) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
yeah, we had that aswell. We had tv enabled on 3 of our servers and it was those that kept kicking people, the others were fine. probably our servers just required a restart.. dunno Darren Gordon wrote: > I don't suppose anyone else is having all their players get disconnected > on map change right? On this patch restart I had tv_enable added to the > command line along with the update and now on every map change everyone > gets disconnected. > > > >> No custom tab removal? :( >> >> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> The required Team Fortress 2 update is now released. Please run >>> hldsupdatetool to receive this update. The specific changes include: >>> >>> - Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the >>> server browser is opened >>> - Changed Medigun Ubercharge meter to drain faster for each target that >>> still has Ubercharge beyond your current target. This means there is a >>> penalty for having multiple people being Ubercharged at one time >>> - Fixed crouch-jump exploit that allowed players to get outside of the >>> world >>> - Fixed bad characters in the chat string when achievements are >>> announced in languages other than English >>> - Fixed a few instances of truncated text in the menus and dialogs for >>> languages other than English >>> - Fixed problem that was preventing some dedicated servers from >>> uploading gamestats >>> - Fixed scoring bug during Sudden Death when the map timelimit is >>> triggered >>> - Added the string "(extra slot was added for SourceTV)" when maxplayers >>> is increased for SourceTV >>> >>> Jason >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
George "Devgru Seal" wrote: > I tend to agree. The only reason I was even aware of the box was through > this mailing list, and I read the update news. But I can tell you that most > gamers are just going to click past that tiny box without caring what was in > the box. They figure, "if its important I'll get the message again, but I > want to play a game right now!" Either that or they implement a ten second timer where you can't close that dialog box. -- With regards, Matthew Cheale +44 (0)56 000 36985 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Most annoying thing is that Custom tab is not available in Steam client. Thus the same server appears on Internet tab in Steam client and on Custom tab of the in-game browser which stupid, ridiculous and confusing. No one is going to understand the logic behind this and any number of educational dialogs won't help it. Either add Custom tab to Steam client or remove it from in-game browser. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
And it seems to be in EVERY game on the EP2 engine thats multiplayer. Thats right, every EP2 game it will popup and say this, what if i already KNOW about the Custom tab? Mike Stiehm wrote: > If you ask me the new info box is just silly looking and > its annoying to read. > > > > >> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 00:21:46 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: >> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated >> Server update released> > my servers still only show up half the time in the >> list. i gave up a > long time ago trying.> > Rodge Stumbaugh wrote:> > Tell >> me about it, but I have to admit, steam blows what activision does for> > >> online play of COD4 out of the water. Have you ever tried to use their> > >> server browser? What a piece of crap.> >> > -Original Message-> > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L >> Havener> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:07 AM> > To: Half-Life >> dedicated Win32 server mailing list> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress >> 2/Dedicated Server update released> >> > There seems to be this trend in PC >> gaming where developers want to > > control the game experience in online >> play more and more. The most > > extreme case would be DICE and the ranked >> servers for BF2 and 2142. > > More and more the options we as admins have to >> host a game the way we > > want to play it are being taken away. In my >> opinion, this has stemmed > > from the consoles where developers and >> publishers have complete control > > over the gaming experience. That model >> will never work in the PC gaming > > world. I am really frustrated with how >> out of touch the devs and > > publishers have become. From this problem with >> the custom tabs in TF2 > > to the complete and utter BS with KAOS and >> Frontlines to the crappy > > console ports we get for a lot of games anymore >> I just have to shake my > > head and wonder what the hell happened to PC >> gaming.> >> > Rodge Stumbaugh wrote:> > > >> I have hosted a server for over >> 4 years now and I only do it for my own> >> entertainment and sorry Valve, >> but the best part of running(and playing> >> > > on)> > > >> a server is all >> the cool mods these kids out there like Mani, Mattie, the> >> sourcemod >> folks and now more than ever Beetlefart and of course others> >> > > have> > >> > >> come up with. I'm not blind though, I do realize there are serious CAL> >> >> > > type> > > >> gamers out there who only want vanilla servers, but I do >> believe that> >> > > there> > > >> are more who like the fun stuff that's >> been added on. Maybe I'm wrong,> >> > > maybe> > > >> Valve could care less >> about these mods, but if so, why make a completely> >> different tab that >> only shows up if you are already in the game? That part> >> really confuses >> me because I run steam from windows, I decide what game to> >> play from my >> steam client before I go into the game, even what server. So,> >> > > I> > > >> >> rarely ever use the steam search while I'm in the game. So, why is it >> that> >> Valve decided to put the tab there and not in the steam client I >> use> >> > > before> > > >> I start the game??? That part I don't get at all. >> But in all honestly, I> >> > > did> > > >> check out the new message from >> the update tonight and it seems fine to me.> >> Do I think anyone will >> notice it? I doubt it, will they use it? I hope> >> > > they> > > >> do. I >> do, however agree with most people on this list that adding this> >> > > >> type> > > >> of thing to the current filters would be much better, but then >> again, I> >> > > make> > > >> no money from my server, so it doesn't affect >> me the same way.> >>> >> Also, I'd like to say I am glad to have this list >> and am very appreciative> >> of the few people from Valve who do send out >> updated info, even though we> >> never hear from Alfred anymore!> >>> >> >> Just my two cents,> >> Rodge f
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
I tend to agree. The only reason I was even aware of the box was through this mailing list, and I read the update news. But I can tell you that most gamers are just going to click past that tiny box without caring what was in the box. They figure, "if its important I'll get the message again, but I want to play a game right now!" ...And don't take that as an invitation to make that dialog box show up everytime you open the browser either, in hopes someone will see it. On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's not only silly and annoying, its just plain stupid. I've asked people > around if someone has actually read the box, I haven't been able to find > one > yet! > > VALVe, please, just accept for once you've made a mistake, a screw up. > We'll > forgive you, things like this can happen. But for god sakes, take that > damn > tab out of the server browser! > > Another effect of this tabs, which it looks like you haven't taken in > account, is that all 'noob' players are on the internet tab. As with > result > you have mostly only servers now on that tab were idiots play who keep > spamming and screaming shit, abusing bugs etc etc. And the default servers > are mostly not really closely monitored by admins, so the abuse keeps > going > on 24/7. Good improvement on the game impression for new players! I'm sure > they love playing in that kind of environment! > > Saint K. > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Mike Stiehm > Verzonden: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 8:04 AM > Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released > > If you ask me the new info box is just silly looking and > its annoying to read. > > > > > Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 00:21:46 -0400> From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: > Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released> > my servers > still only show up half the time in the list. i gave up a > long time ago > trying.> > Rodge Stumbaugh wrote:> > Tell me about it, but I have to > admit, > steam blows what activision does for> > online play of COD4 out of the > water. Have you ever tried to use their> > server browser? What a piece of > crap.> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L > Havener> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:07 AM> > To: Half-Life dedicated > Win32 > server mailing list> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated > Server > update released> >> > There seems to be this trend in PC gaming where > developers want to > > control the game experience in online play more and > more. The most > > extreme case would be DICE and the ranked servers for > BF2 > and 2142. > > More and more the options we as admins have to host a game > the > way we > > want to play it are being taken away. In my opinion, this has > stemmed > > from the consoles where developers and publishers have > complete > control > > over the gaming experience. That model will never work in the > PC > gaming > > world. I am really frustrated with how out of touch the devs > and > > > publishers have become. From this problem with the custom tabs in TF2 > > > > to the complete and utter BS with KAOS and Frontlines to the crappy > > > console ports we get for a lot of games anymore I just have to shake my > > > > head and wonder what the hell happened to PC gaming.> >> > Rodge Stumbaugh > wrote:> > > >> I have hosted a server for over 4 years now and I only do > it > for my own> >> entertainment and sorry Valve, but the best part of > running(and playing> >> > > on)> > > >> a server is all the cool mods > these > kids out there like Mani, Mattie, the> >> sourcemod folks and now more > than > ever Beetlefart and of course others> >> > > have> > > >> come up with. > I'm > not blind though, I do realize there are serious CAL> >> > > type> > > >> > gamers out there who only want vanilla servers, but I do believe that> >> > > > > there> > > >> are more who like the fun stuff that's been added on. > Maybe > I'm wrong,> >> > > maybe> > > >> Valve could care less about these mods, > but > if so, why make a completely> >> different tab th
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
It's not only silly and annoying, its just plain stupid. I've asked people around if someone has actually read the box, I haven't been able to find one yet! VALVe, please, just accept for once you've made a mistake, a screw up. We'll forgive you, things like this can happen. But for god sakes, take that damn tab out of the server browser! Another effect of this tabs, which it looks like you haven't taken in account, is that all 'noob' players are on the internet tab. As with result you have mostly only servers now on that tab were idiots play who keep spamming and screaming shit, abusing bugs etc etc. And the default servers are mostly not really closely monitored by admins, so the abuse keeps going on 24/7. Good improvement on the game impression for new players! I'm sure they love playing in that kind of environment! Saint K. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Mike Stiehm Verzonden: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 8:04 AM Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released If you ask me the new info box is just silly looking and its annoying to read. > Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 00:21:46 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released> > my servers still only show up half the time in the list. i gave up a > long time ago trying.> > Rodge Stumbaugh wrote:> > Tell me about it, but I have to admit, steam blows what activision does for> > online play of COD4 out of the water. Have you ever tried to use their> > server browser? What a piece of crap.> >> > -Original Message-> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L Havener> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:07 AM> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released> >> > There seems to be this trend in PC gaming where developers want to > > control the game experience in online play more and more. The most > > extreme case would be DICE and the ranked servers for BF2 and 2142. > > More and more the options we as admins have to host a game the way we > > want to play it are being taken away. In my opinion, this has stemmed > > from the consoles where developers and publishers have complete control > > over the gaming experience. That model will never work in the PC gaming > > world. I am really frustrated with how out of touch the devs and > > publishers have become. From this problem with the custom tabs in TF2 > > to the complete and utter BS with KAOS and Frontlines to the crappy > > console ports we get for a lot of games anymore I just have to shake my > > head and wonder what the hell happened to PC gaming.> >> > Rodge Stumbaugh wrote:> > > >> I have hosted a server for over 4 years now and I only do it for my own> >> entertainment and sorry Valve, but the best part of running(and playing> >> > > on)> > > >> a server is all the cool mods these kids out there like Mani, Mattie, the> >> sourcemod folks and now more than ever Beetlefart and of course others> >> > > have> > > >> come up with. I'm not blind though, I do realize there are serious CAL> >> > > type> > > >> gamers out there who only want vanilla servers, but I do believe that> >> > > there> > > >> are more who like the fun stuff that's been added on. Maybe I'm wrong,> >> > > maybe> > > >> Valve could care less about these mods, but if so, why make a completely> >> different tab that only shows up if you are already in the game? That part> >> really confuses me because I run steam from windows, I decide what game to> >> play from my steam client before I go into the game, even what server. So,> >> > > I> > > >> rarely ever use the steam search while I'm in the game. So, why is it that> >> Valve decided to put the tab there and not in the steam client I use> >> > > before> > > >> I start the game??? That part I don't get at all. But in all honestly, I> >> > > did> > > >> check out the new message from the update tonight and it seems fine to me.> >> Do I think anyone will notice it? I doubt it, will they use it? I hope> >> > > they> > > >> do. I do, however agree with most people on this list that adding this> >> > > type> > > >> of thing to the current filters wo
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
If you ask me the new info box is just silly looking and its annoying to read. > Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 00:21:46 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated > Server update released> > my servers still only show up half the time in the > list. i gave up a > long time ago trying.> > Rodge Stumbaugh wrote:> > Tell > me about it, but I have to admit, steam blows what activision does for> > > online play of COD4 out of the water. Have you ever tried to use their> > > server browser? What a piece of crap.> >> > -Original Message-> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L > Havener> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:07 AM> > To: Half-Life > dedicated Win32 server mailing list> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress > 2/Dedicated Server update released> >> > There seems to be this trend in PC > gaming where developers want to > > control the game experience in online > play more and more. The most > > extreme case would be DICE and the ranked > servers for BF2 and 2142. > > More and more the options we as admins have to > host a game the way we > > want to play it are being taken away. In my > opinion, this has stemmed > > from the consoles where developers and > publishers have complete control > > over the gaming experience. That model > will never work in the PC gaming > > world. I am really frustrated with how > out of touch the devs and > > publishers have become. From this problem with > the custom tabs in TF2 > > to the complete and utter BS with KAOS and > Frontlines to the crappy > > console ports we get for a lot of games anymore > I just have to shake my > > head and wonder what the hell happened to PC > gaming.> >> > Rodge Stumbaugh wrote:> > > >> I have hosted a server for over > 4 years now and I only do it for my own> >> entertainment and sorry Valve, > but the best part of running(and playing> >> > > on)> > > >> a server is all > the cool mods these kids out there like Mani, Mattie, the> >> sourcemod folks > and now more than ever Beetlefart and of course others> >> > > have> > > >> > come up with. I'm not blind though, I do realize there are serious CAL> >> > > > type> > > >> gamers out there who only want vanilla servers, but I do > believe that> >> > > there> > > >> are more who like the fun stuff that's > been added on. Maybe I'm wrong,> >> > > maybe> > > >> Valve could care less > about these mods, but if so, why make a completely> >> different tab that > only shows up if you are already in the game? That part> >> really confuses > me because I run steam from windows, I decide what game to> >> play from my > steam client before I go into the game, even what server. So,> >> > > I> > > > >> rarely ever use the steam search while I'm in the game. So, why is it > that> >> Valve decided to put the tab there and not in the steam client I > use> >> > > before> > > >> I start the game??? That part I don't get at all. > But in all honestly, I> >> > > did> > > >> check out the new message from the > update tonight and it seems fine to me.> >> Do I think anyone will notice it? > I doubt it, will they use it? I hope> >> > > they> > > >> do. I do, however > agree with most people on this list that adding this> >> > > type> > > >> of > thing to the current filters would be much better, but then again, I> >> > > > make> > > >> no money from my server, so it doesn't affect me the same way.> > >>> >> Also, I'd like to say I am glad to have this list and am very > appreciative> >> of the few people from Valve who do send out updated info, > even though we> >> never hear from Alfred anymore!> >>> >> Just my two > cents,> >> Rodge from Maryland(aka Monkey House)> >>> >> -Original > Message-> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Jason Ruymen> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:52 PM> >> To: > hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED];> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicat
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
my servers still only show up half the time in the list. i gave up a long time ago trying. Rodge Stumbaugh wrote: > Tell me about it, but I have to admit, steam blows what activision does for > online play of COD4 out of the water. Have you ever tried to use their > server browser? What a piece of crap. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L Havener > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:07 AM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released > > There seems to be this trend in PC gaming where developers want to > control the game experience in online play more and more. The most > extreme case would be DICE and the ranked servers for BF2 and 2142. > More and more the options we as admins have to host a game the way we > want to play it are being taken away. In my opinion, this has stemmed > from the consoles where developers and publishers have complete control > over the gaming experience. That model will never work in the PC gaming > world. I am really frustrated with how out of touch the devs and > publishers have become. From this problem with the custom tabs in TF2 > to the complete and utter BS with KAOS and Frontlines to the crappy > console ports we get for a lot of games anymore I just have to shake my > head and wonder what the hell happened to PC gaming. > > Rodge Stumbaugh wrote: > >> I have hosted a server for over 4 years now and I only do it for my own >> entertainment and sorry Valve, but the best part of running(and playing >> > on) > >> a server is all the cool mods these kids out there like Mani, Mattie, the >> sourcemod folks and now more than ever Beetlefart and of course others >> > have > >> come up with. I'm not blind though, I do realize there are serious CAL >> > type > >> gamers out there who only want vanilla servers, but I do believe that >> > there > >> are more who like the fun stuff that's been added on. Maybe I'm wrong, >> > maybe > >> Valve could care less about these mods, but if so, why make a completely >> different tab that only shows up if you are already in the game? That part >> really confuses me because I run steam from windows, I decide what game to >> play from my steam client before I go into the game, even what server. So, >> > I > >> rarely ever use the steam search while I'm in the game. So, why is it that >> Valve decided to put the tab there and not in the steam client I use >> > before > >> I start the game??? That part I don't get at all. But in all honestly, I >> > did > >> check out the new message from the update tonight and it seems fine to me. >> Do I think anyone will notice it? I doubt it, will they use it? I hope >> > they > >> do. I do, however agree with most people on this list that adding this >> > type > >> of thing to the current filters would be much better, but then again, I >> > make > >> no money from my server, so it doesn't affect me the same way. >> >> Also, I'd like to say I am glad to have this list and am very appreciative >> of the few people from Valve who do send out updated info, even though we >> never hear from Alfred anymore! >> >> Just my two cents, >> Rodge from Maryland(aka Monkey House) >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen >> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:52 PM >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released >> >> The required Team Fortress 2 update is now released. Please run >> hldsupdatetool to receive this update. The specific changes include: >> >> - Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the >> server browser is opened >> - Changed Medigun Ubercharge meter to drain faster for each target that >> still has Ubercharge beyond your current target. This means there is a >> penalty for having multiple people being Ubercharged at one time >> - Fixed crouch-jump exploit that allowed players to get outside of the >> world >> - Fixed bad characters in the chat string when achievements are >> announced in languages other than English >> - Fixed a few instances of truncated text in the menus and di
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
Tell me about it, but I have to admit, steam blows what activision does for online play of COD4 out of the water. Have you ever tried to use their server browser? What a piece of crap. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L Havener Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:07 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released There seems to be this trend in PC gaming where developers want to control the game experience in online play more and more. The most extreme case would be DICE and the ranked servers for BF2 and 2142. More and more the options we as admins have to host a game the way we want to play it are being taken away. In my opinion, this has stemmed from the consoles where developers and publishers have complete control over the gaming experience. That model will never work in the PC gaming world. I am really frustrated with how out of touch the devs and publishers have become. From this problem with the custom tabs in TF2 to the complete and utter BS with KAOS and Frontlines to the crappy console ports we get for a lot of games anymore I just have to shake my head and wonder what the hell happened to PC gaming. Rodge Stumbaugh wrote: > I have hosted a server for over 4 years now and I only do it for my own > entertainment and sorry Valve, but the best part of running(and playing on) > a server is all the cool mods these kids out there like Mani, Mattie, the > sourcemod folks and now more than ever Beetlefart and of course others have > come up with. I'm not blind though, I do realize there are serious CAL type > gamers out there who only want vanilla servers, but I do believe that there > are more who like the fun stuff that's been added on. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe > Valve could care less about these mods, but if so, why make a completely > different tab that only shows up if you are already in the game? That part > really confuses me because I run steam from windows, I decide what game to > play from my steam client before I go into the game, even what server. So, I > rarely ever use the steam search while I'm in the game. So, why is it that > Valve decided to put the tab there and not in the steam client I use before > I start the game??? That part I don't get at all. But in all honestly, I did > check out the new message from the update tonight and it seems fine to me. > Do I think anyone will notice it? I doubt it, will they use it? I hope they > do. I do, however agree with most people on this list that adding this type > of thing to the current filters would be much better, but then again, I make > no money from my server, so it doesn't affect me the same way. > > Also, I'd like to say I am glad to have this list and am very appreciative > of the few people from Valve who do send out updated info, even though we > never hear from Alfred anymore! > > Just my two cents, > Rodge from Maryland(aka Monkey House) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:52 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released > > The required Team Fortress 2 update is now released. Please run > hldsupdatetool to receive this update. The specific changes include: > > - Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the > server browser is opened > - Changed Medigun Ubercharge meter to drain faster for each target that > still has Ubercharge beyond your current target. This means there is a > penalty for having multiple people being Ubercharged at one time > - Fixed crouch-jump exploit that allowed players to get outside of the > world > - Fixed bad characters in the chat string when achievements are > announced in languages other than English > - Fixed a few instances of truncated text in the menus and dialogs for > languages other than English > - Fixed problem that was preventing some dedicated servers from > uploading gamestats > - Fixed scoring bug during Sudden Death when the map timelimit is > triggered > - Added the string "(extra slot was added for SourceTV)" when maxplayers > is increased for SourceTV > > Jason > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
There seems to be this trend in PC gaming where developers want to control the game experience in online play more and more. The most extreme case would be DICE and the ranked servers for BF2 and 2142. More and more the options we as admins have to host a game the way we want to play it are being taken away. In my opinion, this has stemmed from the consoles where developers and publishers have complete control over the gaming experience. That model will never work in the PC gaming world. I am really frustrated with how out of touch the devs and publishers have become. From this problem with the custom tabs in TF2 to the complete and utter BS with KAOS and Frontlines to the crappy console ports we get for a lot of games anymore I just have to shake my head and wonder what the hell happened to PC gaming. Rodge Stumbaugh wrote: > I have hosted a server for over 4 years now and I only do it for my own > entertainment and sorry Valve, but the best part of running(and playing on) > a server is all the cool mods these kids out there like Mani, Mattie, the > sourcemod folks and now more than ever Beetlefart and of course others have > come up with. I'm not blind though, I do realize there are serious CAL type > gamers out there who only want vanilla servers, but I do believe that there > are more who like the fun stuff that's been added on. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe > Valve could care less about these mods, but if so, why make a completely > different tab that only shows up if you are already in the game? That part > really confuses me because I run steam from windows, I decide what game to > play from my steam client before I go into the game, even what server. So, I > rarely ever use the steam search while I'm in the game. So, why is it that > Valve decided to put the tab there and not in the steam client I use before > I start the game??? That part I don't get at all. But in all honestly, I did > check out the new message from the update tonight and it seems fine to me. > Do I think anyone will notice it? I doubt it, will they use it? I hope they > do. I do, however agree with most people on this list that adding this type > of thing to the current filters would be much better, but then again, I make > no money from my server, so it doesn't affect me the same way. > > Also, I'd like to say I am glad to have this list and am very appreciative > of the few people from Valve who do send out updated info, even though we > never hear from Alfred anymore! > > Just my two cents, > Rodge from Maryland(aka Monkey House) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:52 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released > > The required Team Fortress 2 update is now released. Please run > hldsupdatetool to receive this update. The specific changes include: > > - Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the > server browser is opened > - Changed Medigun Ubercharge meter to drain faster for each target that > still has Ubercharge beyond your current target. This means there is a > penalty for having multiple people being Ubercharged at one time > - Fixed crouch-jump exploit that allowed players to get outside of the > world > - Fixed bad characters in the chat string when achievements are > announced in languages other than English > - Fixed a few instances of truncated text in the menus and dialogs for > languages other than English > - Fixed problem that was preventing some dedicated servers from > uploading gamestats > - Fixed scoring bug during Sudden Death when the map timelimit is > triggered > - Added the string "(extra slot was added for SourceTV)" when maxplayers > is increased for SourceTV > > Jason > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
- Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the server browser is opened haha it seems, that a ot of players don't understand the system?! what about removing that useless tab and making a dialog on one(!) list how to use filters and how to understand the server tags? naaah that would be to easy -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:52 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released > > The required Team Fortress 2 update is now released. Please run > hldsupdatetool to receive this update. The specific changes include: > > - Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the > server browser is opened > - Changed Medigun Ubercharge meter to drain faster for each target that > still has Ubercharge beyond your current target. This means there is a > penalty for having multiple people being Ubercharged at one time > - Fixed crouch-jump exploit that allowed players to get outside of the > world > - Fixed bad characters in the chat string when achievements are > announced in languages other than English > - Fixed a few instances of truncated text in the menus and dialogs for > languages other than English > - Fixed problem that was preventing some dedicated servers from > uploading gamestats > - Fixed scoring bug during Sudden Death when the map timelimit is > triggered > - Added the string "(extra slot was added for SourceTV)" when maxplayers > is increased for SourceTV > > Jason > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
I am currently running a VANILLA 24 player TF2 server which has the following VANILLA ?con?figurations: Demomen shoot Babies/Explosive Barrels (Instead of Pipe Bombs/Sticky Bombs) Sentry Gun/Soldier rockets are Watermelons... Crit Watermelons FTW. I am not using any plugin to bypass Valve's wishes (on that server atleast) and it appears on the internet tab! Cclearly intended functionallity. I don't expect that server will be banned of the serverlist anytime too soon? On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the > server browser is opened > > Great! A dialog that will be closed before it finishes drawing the text, > and > then never opened again. > > The average gamer looking for a server will close that dialog without > reading it. I suggest valve put a statistic to see how long the average > player has that dialog open, and they will find out: > > 1. A majority of the players are very fast readers that can read over 1000 > words per minute. > 2. Players don't have the dialog open long enough to read it. > > That's a shame, because I want to use sv_tags without being penalized for > it > and put into another list where my servers will go to die. > > Hell, I can't even run a vanilla server with sv_tags vanilla, my vanilla > server will show on the custom tab. > > The two tabs idea is broken. Quit wasting time working on a mechanic that > will be fiercely fought. I can make server modifications left and right > without sv_tags being modified, and I will have no incentive to properly > list my server modifications if I am punished for it. > > If valve starts delisting servers about this, it will be the beginning of > the end. Especially modified servers that don't forcefully modify the > sv_tags, but just install addons that do not advertise themselves in > sv_tags. > > I can turn my servers into instagib deathmatch without it changing > sv_tags. > > - voogru. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:52 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released > > The required Team Fortress 2 update is now released. Please run > hldsupdatetool to receive this update. The specific changes include: > > - Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the > server browser is opened > - Changed Medigun Ubercharge meter to drain faster for each target that > still has Ubercharge beyond your current target. This means there is a > penalty for having multiple people being Ubercharged at one time > - Fixed crouch-jump exploit that allowed players to get outside of the > world > - Fixed bad characters in the chat string when achievements are > announced in languages other than English > - Fixed a few instances of truncated text in the menus and dialogs for > languages other than English > - Fixed problem that was preventing some dedicated servers from > uploading gamestats > - Fixed scoring bug during Sudden Death when the map timelimit is > triggered > - Added the string "(extra slot was added for SourceTV)" when maxplayers > is increased for SourceTV > > Jason > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
I'd be happy just to see my server, lol. After update it disappeared (24 slot server). In the tf2 browser I see about 50 servers and 5 custom. I don't have a problem with inet/cust, my problems always been battling to see my servers on the list (hlds/srcds and now orangebox) and the myriad of others out there. Should we still be running: ? // old (outside-of-Steam) code to communicate with master servers. sv_master_legacy_mode 1 - Original Message From: Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2008 9:14:17 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released - Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the server browser is opened Great! A dialog that will be closed before it finishes drawing the text, and then never opened again. The average gamer looking for a server will close that dialog without reading it. I suggest valve put a statistic to see how long the average player has that dialog open, and they will find out: 1. A majority of the players are very fast readers that can read over 1000 words per minute. 2. Players don't have the dialog open long enough to read it. That's a shame, because I want to use sv_tags without being penalized for it and put into another list where my servers will go to die. Hell, I can't even run a vanilla server with sv_tags vanilla, my vanilla server will show on the custom tab. The two tabs idea is broken. Quit wasting time working on a mechanic that will be fiercely fought. I can make server modifications left and right without sv_tags being modified, and I will have no incentive to properly list my server modifications if I am punished for it. If valve starts delisting servers about this, it will be the beginning of the end. Especially modified servers that don't forcefully modify the sv_tags, but just install addons that do not advertise themselves in sv_tags. I can turn my servers into instagib deathmatch without it changing sv_tags. - voogru. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:52 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released The required Team Fortress 2 update is now released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive this update. The specific changes include: - Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the server browser is opened - Changed Medigun Ubercharge meter to drain faster for each target that still has Ubercharge beyond your current target. This means there is a penalty for having multiple people being Ubercharged at one time - Fixed crouch-jump exploit that allowed players to get outside of the world - Fixed bad characters in the chat string when achievements are announced in languages other than English - Fixed a few instances of truncated text in the menus and dialogs for languages other than English - Fixed problem that was preventing some dedicated servers from uploading gamestats - Fixed scoring bug during Sudden Death when the map timelimit is triggered - Added the string "(extra slot was added for SourceTV)" when maxplayers is increased for SourceTV Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
I have hosted a server for over 4 years now and I only do it for my own entertainment and sorry Valve, but the best part of running(and playing on) a server is all the cool mods these kids out there like Mani, Mattie, the sourcemod folks and now more than ever Beetlefart and of course others have come up with. I'm not blind though, I do realize there are serious CAL type gamers out there who only want vanilla servers, but I do believe that there are more who like the fun stuff that's been added on. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe Valve could care less about these mods, but if so, why make a completely different tab that only shows up if you are already in the game? That part really confuses me because I run steam from windows, I decide what game to play from my steam client before I go into the game, even what server. So, I rarely ever use the steam search while I'm in the game. So, why is it that Valve decided to put the tab there and not in the steam client I use before I start the game??? That part I don't get at all. But in all honestly, I did check out the new message from the update tonight and it seems fine to me. Do I think anyone will notice it? I doubt it, will they use it? I hope they do. I do, however agree with most people on this list that adding this type of thing to the current filters would be much better, but then again, I make no money from my server, so it doesn't affect me the same way. Also, I'd like to say I am glad to have this list and am very appreciative of the few people from Valve who do send out updated info, even though we never hear from Alfred anymore! Just my two cents, Rodge from Maryland(aka Monkey House) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:52 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released The required Team Fortress 2 update is now released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive this update. The specific changes include: - Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the server browser is opened - Changed Medigun Ubercharge meter to drain faster for each target that still has Ubercharge beyond your current target. This means there is a penalty for having multiple people being Ubercharged at one time - Fixed crouch-jump exploit that allowed players to get outside of the world - Fixed bad characters in the chat string when achievements are announced in languages other than English - Fixed a few instances of truncated text in the menus and dialogs for languages other than English - Fixed problem that was preventing some dedicated servers from uploading gamestats - Fixed scoring bug during Sudden Death when the map timelimit is triggered - Added the string "(extra slot was added for SourceTV)" when maxplayers is increased for SourceTV Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
- Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the server browser is opened Great! A dialog that will be closed before it finishes drawing the text, and then never opened again. The average gamer looking for a server will close that dialog without reading it. I suggest valve put a statistic to see how long the average player has that dialog open, and they will find out: 1. A majority of the players are very fast readers that can read over 1000 words per minute. 2. Players don't have the dialog open long enough to read it. That's a shame, because I want to use sv_tags without being penalized for it and put into another list where my servers will go to die. Hell, I can't even run a vanilla server with sv_tags vanilla, my vanilla server will show on the custom tab. The two tabs idea is broken. Quit wasting time working on a mechanic that will be fiercely fought. I can make server modifications left and right without sv_tags being modified, and I will have no incentive to properly list my server modifications if I am punished for it. If valve starts delisting servers about this, it will be the beginning of the end. Especially modified servers that don't forcefully modify the sv_tags, but just install addons that do not advertise themselves in sv_tags. I can turn my servers into instagib deathmatch without it changing sv_tags. - voogru. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:52 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released The required Team Fortress 2 update is now released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive this update. The specific changes include: - Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the server browser is opened - Changed Medigun Ubercharge meter to drain faster for each target that still has Ubercharge beyond your current target. This means there is a penalty for having multiple people being Ubercharged at one time - Fixed crouch-jump exploit that allowed players to get outside of the world - Fixed bad characters in the chat string when achievements are announced in languages other than English - Fixed a few instances of truncated text in the menus and dialogs for languages other than English - Fixed problem that was preventing some dedicated servers from uploading gamestats - Fixed scoring bug during Sudden Death when the map timelimit is triggered - Added the string "(extra slot was added for SourceTV)" when maxplayers is increased for SourceTV Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
I guess they still want to keep shoving it down our throats whether we like it or not... 1nsane . wrote: > No custom tab removal? :( > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> The required Team Fortress 2 update is now released. Please run >> hldsupdatetool to receive this update. The specific changes include: >> >> - Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the >> server browser is opened >> - Changed Medigun Ubercharge meter to drain faster for each target that >> still has Ubercharge beyond your current target. This means there is a >> penalty for having multiple people being Ubercharged at one time >> - Fixed crouch-jump exploit that allowed players to get outside of the >> world >> - Fixed bad characters in the chat string when achievements are >> announced in languages other than English >> - Fixed a few instances of truncated text in the menus and dialogs for >> languages other than English >> - Fixed problem that was preventing some dedicated servers from >> uploading gamestats >> - Fixed scoring bug during Sudden Death when the map timelimit is >> triggered >> - Added the string "(extra slot was added for SourceTV)" when maxplayers >> is increased for SourceTV >> >> Jason >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
I don't suppose anyone else is having all their players get disconnected on map change right? On this patch restart I had tv_enable added to the command line along with the update and now on every map change everyone gets disconnected. > No custom tab removal? :( > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> The required Team Fortress 2 update is now released. Please run >> hldsupdatetool to receive this update. The specific changes include: >> >> - Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the >> server browser is opened >> - Changed Medigun Ubercharge meter to drain faster for each target that >> still has Ubercharge beyond your current target. This means there is a >> penalty for having multiple people being Ubercharged at one time >> - Fixed crouch-jump exploit that allowed players to get outside of the >> world >> - Fixed bad characters in the chat string when achievements are >> announced in languages other than English >> - Fixed a few instances of truncated text in the menus and dialogs for >> languages other than English >> - Fixed problem that was preventing some dedicated servers from >> uploading gamestats >> - Fixed scoring bug during Sudden Death when the map timelimit is >> triggered >> - Added the string "(extra slot was added for SourceTV)" when maxplayers >> is increased for SourceTV >> >> Jason >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released
No custom tab removal? :( On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The required Team Fortress 2 update is now released. Please run > hldsupdatetool to receive this update. The specific changes include: > > - Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the > server browser is opened > - Changed Medigun Ubercharge meter to drain faster for each target that > still has Ubercharge beyond your current target. This means there is a > penalty for having multiple people being Ubercharged at one time > - Fixed crouch-jump exploit that allowed players to get outside of the > world > - Fixed bad characters in the chat string when achievements are > announced in languages other than English > - Fixed a few instances of truncated text in the menus and dialogs for > languages other than English > - Fixed problem that was preventing some dedicated servers from > uploading gamestats > - Fixed scoring bug during Sudden Death when the map timelimit is > triggered > - Added the string "(extra slot was added for SourceTV)" when maxplayers > is increased for SourceTV > > Jason > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Available
- Fix stat records sometimes being attributed to the wrong class Hah, earlier today I got a record number of kills as Demoman using a sentry lol On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 7:16 PM, 1nsane . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > This is optional, not required, right? > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Team Fortress 2 and it's dedicated server have been updated. Please run > > hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: > > > > - Fixed server crash with mp_forcecamera set to 1 (reverted to > > pre-release behavior) > > - Fix stat records sometimes being attributed to the wrong class > > - Fixed the SourceTV changes not working unless servers launched with > > +tv_enable 1 in the command line > > - Game server will now try 32 sequential ports to start up on if they > > are all originating on the same machine. Previously it would stop at 10 > > > > Jason > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > -- > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Available
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] This is optional, not required, right? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Team Fortress 2 and it's dedicated server have been updated. Please run > hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: > > - Fixed server crash with mp_forcecamera set to 1 (reverted to > pre-release behavior) > - Fix stat records sometimes being attributed to the wrong class > - Fixed the SourceTV changes not working unless servers launched with > +tv_enable 1 in the command line > - Game server will now try 32 sequential ports to start up on if they > are all originating on the same machine. Previously it would stop at 10 > > Jason > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Available
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I was going to say the same thing :P Its been known probably a lot longer than the other bugs too but they must have a list of priorities and it must be lower. - Original Message From: ShadowMoses <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:58:55 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Available Thank you again Jason. Are you guys ever going to update the menus getting reset after every 4 seconds? I don't know what is involved with making that update it would just be nice to have that included in one of the updates. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:14 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Available Required updates to Team Fortress 2 and it's dedicated server have been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive these updates. The specific changes include: - Changed some networking code to help alleviate the lagouts some clients are experiencing - Added sv_pure to the server, currently defaults to off. Type "sv_pure" in the console to get the full description - Added DoAskConnect command to serverplugin sample - Added server log entries for: Round_Start, Round_Setup_Begin, Round_Setup_End, Round_Overtime, Round_SuddenDeath, Round_Stalemate, Round_Win, Round_Length, Mini_Round_Selected, Mini_Round_Start, Mini_Round_Win, and Mini_Round_Length - Server log entries for Round_Win and level changes will now detail the team scores and player counts - Updated server log entries for flag captures to detail the number of captures and the tf_flag_caps_per_round value - Removed some legacy math convars for turning off SSE/MMX - Fixed terrain collision bug that allowed players to get under the terrain in some maps - Fixed jump/taunt exploit - Fixed Windows dedicated server running in -console mode moves its window to the front instead of the back upon startup - Fixed Windows dedicated server bug (in -console mode) where typing anything in the console window was slow and tedious - Fixed an error when updating name of 32nd player on server - Fixed extra ascii 0x01 character at the beginning of " connected" console spew - Fixed a bug that could cause a slight delay on engine startup Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Available
Thank you again Jason. Are you guys ever going to update the menus getting reset after every 4 seconds? I don't know what is involved with making that update it would just be nice to have that included in one of the updates. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:14 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Available Required updates to Team Fortress 2 and it's dedicated server have been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive these updates. The specific changes include: - Changed some networking code to help alleviate the lagouts some clients are experiencing - Added sv_pure to the server, currently defaults to off. Type "sv_pure" in the console to get the full description - Added DoAskConnect command to serverplugin sample - Added server log entries for: Round_Start, Round_Setup_Begin, Round_Setup_End, Round_Overtime, Round_SuddenDeath, Round_Stalemate, Round_Win, Round_Length, Mini_Round_Selected, Mini_Round_Start, Mini_Round_Win, and Mini_Round_Length - Server log entries for Round_Win and level changes will now detail the team scores and player counts - Updated server log entries for flag captures to detail the number of captures and the tf_flag_caps_per_round value - Removed some legacy math convars for turning off SSE/MMX - Fixed terrain collision bug that allowed players to get under the terrain in some maps - Fixed jump/taunt exploit - Fixed Windows dedicated server running in -console mode moves its window to the front instead of the back upon startup - Fixed Windows dedicated server bug (in -console mode) where typing anything in the console window was slow and tedious - Fixed an error when updating name of 32nd player on server - Fixed extra ascii 0x01 character at the beginning of " connected" console spew - Fixed a bug that could cause a slight delay on engine startup Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Available
<3 Love Hopefully it'll run better now! Jason Ruymen wrote: - Fixed Windows dedicated server bug (in -console mode) where typing anything in the console window was slow and tedious ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Dedicated Server update
Andreas Grimm wrote: btw ... on dustbowl, first stage, blue soldiers are still able to shoot rockets though the fence on the left side at the stairs -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Leissler Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 3:04 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Dedicated Server update and No fix the Gravel Pit Exploit of players able to get under the map and kill everyone above. :( - Original Message From: Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:24:14 PM Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Dedicated Server update Required updates to the Team Fortress 2 Dedicated Server have been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive these updates. The specific changes include: Source Engine: - Fixed a bug in networking that would cause long stalls (up to 10 seconds) when a split packets weren't be reassembled properly, which forced a full update to the client(s) - General optimization to tracelines - Fix for broken .dem file playback - Added backward compatibility code to allow demos recorded with protocol 12 to continue to be playable under protocol version 13 - When showing "WARNING: Connection Problem", now indicate the number of seconds remaining before an auto-disconnect will occur - Fixed a bug that would cause NULLNAME to be shown as the player's name in the scoreboard for a short time. Team Fortress 2: - Fixed exploit where spectators could spawn into the world without actually joining a team Hydro map changes: - Fixed an exploit that would allow players to jump out of the map Granary map changes: - Cover changes to the first capture points of both teams. Reduces some of the sight lines for defenders, and should make the area easier to capture - Teams that are holding more points will receive a greater spawn time bonus (spawn timer reduced for the winning team). This should help attacking teams build momentum - Minor visual tweaks to the BLU side between capture points 2 and 3 - Clipped off a super high (demo pipe jump) perch in the middle area - Increased base round timer to 10 minutes - Added windows overlooking the final cap from the capture point 2 building (via new room next to conveyor route) - Minor changes to lighting in the middle area - Moved the middle spawn points farther forward (saves 6-7 seconds off a Heavy's run from this spawn to enemy capture point 2) - Reduced spawn advantage/penalty to a total of -/+ 6 seconds when on the final cap (from 10 seconds) - Fixed material alignment and model interpenetration issues in home spawn rocket rooms SourceTV: - Increased default bandwidth rate from 5 to 8 KB/sec for spectator clients - Increased SourceTV demo buffer size for table class descriptions from 64 to 96KB. Team Fortress 2 was running over this - Performance improvement for copying unreliable data buffers to SourceTV clients - Updated the list of events in TF2 tagged for the director to play Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Also what about the teleport through the fence? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Dedicated Server update
btw ... on dustbowl, first stage, blue soldiers are still able to shoot rockets though the fence on the left side at the stairs > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Jonathan Leissler > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 3:04 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Dedicated Server update > > and No fix the Gravel Pit Exploit of players able to get > under the map and kill everyone above. :( > > - Original Message > From: Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:24:14 PM > Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Dedicated Server update > > > Required updates to the Team Fortress 2 Dedicated Server have > been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive these > updates. The specific changes include: > > Source Engine: > - Fixed a bug in networking that would cause long stalls (up to 10 > seconds) when a split packets weren't be reassembled > properly, which forced a full update to the client(s) > - General optimization to tracelines > - Fix for broken .dem file playback > - Added backward compatibility code to allow demos recorded > with protocol 12 to continue to be playable under protocol version 13 > - When showing "WARNING: Connection Problem", now indicate > the number of seconds remaining before an auto-disconnect will occur > - Fixed a bug that would cause NULLNAME to be shown as the > player's name in the scoreboard for a short time. > > Team Fortress 2: > - Fixed exploit where spectators could spawn into the world > without actually joining a team > > Hydro map changes: > - Fixed an exploit that would allow players to jump out of the map > > Granary map changes: > - Cover changes to the first capture points of both teams. > Reduces some of the sight lines for defenders, and should > make the area easier to capture > - Teams that are holding more points will receive a greater > spawn time bonus (spawn timer reduced for the winning team). > This should help attacking teams build momentum > - Minor visual tweaks to the BLU side between capture points 2 and 3 > - Clipped off a super high (demo pipe jump) perch in the middle area > - Increased base round timer to 10 minutes > - Added windows overlooking the final cap from the capture > point 2 building (via new room next to conveyor route) > - Minor changes to lighting in the middle area > - Moved the middle spawn points farther forward (saves 6-7 > seconds off a Heavy's run from this spawn to enemy capture point 2) > - Reduced spawn advantage/penalty to a total of -/+ 6 seconds > when on the final cap (from 10 seconds) > - Fixed material alignment and model interpenetration issues > in home spawn rocket rooms > > SourceTV: > - Increased default bandwidth rate from 5 to 8 KB/sec for > spectator clients > - Increased SourceTV demo buffer size for table class > descriptions from > 64 to 96KB. Team Fortress 2 was running over this > - Performance improvement for copying unreliable data buffers > to SourceTV clients > - Updated the list of events in TF2 tagged for the director to play > > Jason > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > __ > __ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Dedicated Server update
and No fix the Gravel Pit Exploit of players able to get under the map and kill everyone above. :( - Original Message From: Jason Ruymen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:24:14 PM Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Dedicated Server update Required updates to the Team Fortress 2 Dedicated Server have been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive these updates. The specific changes include: Source Engine: - Fixed a bug in networking that would cause long stalls (up to 10 seconds) when a split packets weren't be reassembled properly, which forced a full update to the client(s) - General optimization to tracelines - Fix for broken .dem file playback - Added backward compatibility code to allow demos recorded with protocol 12 to continue to be playable under protocol version 13 - When showing "WARNING: Connection Problem", now indicate the number of seconds remaining before an auto-disconnect will occur - Fixed a bug that would cause NULLNAME to be shown as the player's name in the scoreboard for a short time. Team Fortress 2: - Fixed exploit where spectators could spawn into the world without actually joining a team Hydro map changes: - Fixed an exploit that would allow players to jump out of the map Granary map changes: - Cover changes to the first capture points of both teams. Reduces some of the sight lines for defenders, and should make the area easier to capture - Teams that are holding more points will receive a greater spawn time bonus (spawn timer reduced for the winning team). This should help attacking teams build momentum - Minor visual tweaks to the BLU side between capture points 2 and 3 - Clipped off a super high (demo pipe jump) perch in the middle area - Increased base round timer to 10 minutes - Added windows overlooking the final cap from the capture point 2 building (via new room next to conveyor route) - Minor changes to lighting in the middle area - Moved the middle spawn points farther forward (saves 6-7 seconds off a Heavy's run from this spawn to enemy capture point 2) - Reduced spawn advantage/penalty to a total of -/+ 6 seconds when on the final cap (from 10 seconds) - Fixed material alignment and model interpenetration issues in home spawn rocket rooms SourceTV: - Increased default bandwidth rate from 5 to 8 KB/sec for spectator clients - Increased SourceTV demo buffer size for table class descriptions from 64 to 96KB. Team Fortress 2 was running over this - Performance improvement for copying unreliable data buffers to SourceTV clients - Updated the list of events in TF2 tagged for the director to play Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Dedicated Server update
I was playing on a private server with some friends and one of them knew of this - I did not. Funniest thing I ever tried to figure out. But, this is a serious exploit that would ruin this map on public servers. This map has been removed from several pub map rotations. I hope the fix is quick. Keeper -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Leissler Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:04 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Dedicated Server update and No fix the Gravel Pit Exploit of players able to get under the map and kill everyone above. :( ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update
Delete everything in your bin folder and do the update again. It's the same thing mine was doing and mysteriously quit. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:54 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update My server keeps spaming it is out of date I already ran the updatetool 100 times with -verify_all and still starts telling me it is out of date win 2003 Anyone else seen this? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 2636 (20071103) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update
E:\Games\TGA\TF2\ < is my install dir I have Hldsupdatetool.exe and update.bat My update.bat has E:\Games\TGA\TF2\hldsupdatetool.exe -command update -game tf -dir . -retry -verify_all Do I get E:\Games\TGA\TF2\orangebox RUN E:\Games\TGA\TF2\orangebox\srcds.exe -console -game tf -ip 2xx.24.xxx.58 -maxplayers 21 -tickrate 100 +fps_max 600 +map cp_dustbowl Seems it would be right to me? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Me you Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 7:10 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] if your using //tf, change to //orangebox/tf Seems to change back and forth with each update. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:53:54 -0400> > > > My server keeps spaming it is out of date> > I already ran the updatetool 100 times with -verify_all and still starts> telling me it is out of date win 2003 Anyone else seen this?> > ___> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL10062697 1033 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] if your using //tf, change to //orangebox/tf Seems to change back and forth with each update. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: RE: [hlds] > Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:53:54 > -0400> > > > My server keeps spaming it is out of date> > I already ran the > updatetool 100 times with -verify_all and still starts> telling me it is out > of date win 2003 Anyone else seen this?> > > ___> To unsubscribe, edit your > list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook – together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update
My server keeps spaming it is out of date I already ran the updatetool 100 times with -verify_all and still starts telling me it is out of date win 2003 Anyone else seen this? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] rgr ty. love the win32 list, linux list is really bloated and gives no answers >< -- //Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warzone Short Valley - Warzone.nu Robert Whelan wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > There is know way around it, srcds orangebox is an all new engine used by tf2 > and its directory is unique to all other mods. Yes it still shares some hl2 > files but the orangebox dir is normal. > > >>> C:\srcds\orangebox >>> C:\srcds\orangebox\tf >>> C:\srcds\orangebox\platform >>> C:\srcds\orangebox\hl2 >>> C:\srcds\orangebox\bin >>> > > > > > - Original Message > From: Rikard Bremark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2007 10:20:46 AM > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > i changed it back to steam\srcds\ because it complained about that it > couldn't create a directory that allready exists and so on. > anyway, why does tf2 create a folder named orangebox in the my " srcds > dir ". > > What my actually question is why does not the tf2 update just create a > folder in the srcds dir named tf2 like the cstrike folder? > > -- > //Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Warzone Short Valley - Warzone.nu > > Steve S. wrote: > >> make sure the updatetool is in the folder that you are running it frum, if >> you try to call it from a remote directory it will redownload everything. >> >> -Steve >> >> >> >> >> >>> -- >>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>> I'm in the same boat. Everytime they release a new update i'm forced to >>> re-download the entire TF2 server due to the update software not working >>> correctly. I've tried every trick there is and it still won't work on my >>> TF2 servers, but the update tool works fine on my CS:S servers. >>> >>> On 11/1/07, Luke Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> What is with having to delete the contents of the "bin" folder to make >>>> the >>>> server update correctly. Is that something on my end or is anyone else >>>> having this issue? Also when I start with a blank folder with nothing >>>> but >>>> the updatetool it always give me a file creation error and stopsthis >>>> game is starting to become the pain in my butt, it never updates >>>> rightgreat game horrible server software. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham M >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:24 PM >>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update >>>> >>>> Problem! >>>> >>>> I'm getting the following error >>>> >>>> -bash2-2.05b$ ./steam -command update -game tf -dir tf2/ >>>> Checking bootstrapper version ... >>>> Updating Installation >>>> >>>> DebugAssert >>>> Expr: ( close( m_pImpl->m_Socket ) ) == 0 >>>> Line: 598 >>>> File: ../Engine/Src/ContentServerBlockingConnection.cpp >>>> Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) >>>> >>>> So it won't get the update? >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Graham >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Kyle Cassidy >>> >>> 949.701.0759 cell >>> http://Howies.TV >>> -- >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] TF2 is running under a different engine than the rest of the Steam games (for now, at least.) On 11/3/07, Rikard Bremark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > i changed it back to steam\srcds\ because it complained about that it > couldn't create a directory that allready exists and so on. > anyway, why does tf2 create a folder named orangebox in the my " srcds > dir ". > > What my actually question is why does not the tf2 update just create a > folder in the srcds dir named tf2 like the cstrike folder? > > -- > //Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Warzone Short Valley - Warzone.nu > > Steve S. wrote: > > make sure the updatetool is in the folder that you are running it frum, > if > > you try to call it from a remote directory it will redownload > everything. > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > >> -- > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >> I'm in the same boat. Everytime they release a new update i'm forced > to > >> re-download the entire TF2 server due to the update software not > working > >> correctly. I've tried every trick there is and it still won't work on > my > >> TF2 servers, but the update tool works fine on my CS:S servers. > >> > >> On 11/1/07, Luke Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> What is with having to delete the contents of the "bin" folder to make > >>> the > >>> server update correctly. Is that something on my end or is anyone else > >>> having this issue? Also when I start with a blank folder with nothing > >>> but > >>> the updatetool it always give me a file creation error and > stopsthis > >>> game is starting to become the pain in my butt, it never updates > >>> rightgreat game horrible server software. > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham M > >>> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:24 PM > >>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update > >>> > >>> Problem! > >>> > >>> I'm getting the following error > >>> > >>> -bash2-2.05b$ ./steam -command update -game tf -dir tf2/ > >>> Checking bootstrapper version ... > >>> Updating Installation > >>> > >>> DebugAssert > >>> Expr: ( close( m_pImpl->m_Socket ) ) == 0 > >>> Line: 598 > >>> File: ../Engine/Src/ContentServerBlockingConnection.cpp > >>> Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) > >>> > >>> So it won't get the update? > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> Graham > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Kyle Cassidy > >> > >> 949.701.0759 cell > >> http://Howies.TV > >> -- > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] There is know way around it, srcds orangebox is an all new engine used by tf2 and its directory is unique to all other mods. Yes it still shares some hl2 files but the orangebox dir is normal. >> C:\srcds\orangebox >> C:\srcds\orangebox\tf >> C:\srcds\orangebox\platform >> C:\srcds\orangebox\hl2 >> C:\srcds\orangebox\bin - Original Message From: Rikard Bremark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2007 10:20:46 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] i changed it back to steam\srcds\ because it complained about that it couldn't create a directory that allready exists and so on. anyway, why does tf2 create a folder named orangebox in the my " srcds dir ". What my actually question is why does not the tf2 update just create a folder in the srcds dir named tf2 like the cstrike folder? -- //Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warzone Short Valley - Warzone.nu Steve S. wrote: > make sure the updatetool is in the folder that you are running it frum, if > you try to call it from a remote directory it will redownload everything. > > -Steve > > > > >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> I'm in the same boat. Everytime they release a new update i'm forced to >> re-download the entire TF2 server due to the update software not working >> correctly. I've tried every trick there is and it still won't work on my >> TF2 servers, but the update tool works fine on my CS:S servers. >> >> On 11/1/07, Luke Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> What is with having to delete the contents of the "bin" folder to make >>> the >>> server update correctly. Is that something on my end or is anyone else >>> having this issue? Also when I start with a blank folder with nothing >>> but >>> the updatetool it always give me a file creation error and stopsthis >>> game is starting to become the pain in my butt, it never updates >>> rightgreat game horrible server software. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham M >>> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:24 PM >>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update >>> >>> Problem! >>> >>> I'm getting the following error >>> >>> -bash2-2.05b$ ./steam -command update -game tf -dir tf2/ >>> Checking bootstrapper version ... >>> Updating Installation >>> >>> DebugAssert >>> Expr: ( close( m_pImpl->m_Socket ) ) == 0 >>> Line: 598 >>> File: ../Engine/Src/ContentServerBlockingConnection.cpp >>> Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) >>> >>> So it won't get the update? >>> >>> Cheers >>> Graham >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Kyle Cassidy >> >> 949.701.0759 cell >> http://Howies.TV >> -- >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] i changed it back to steam\srcds\ because it complained about that it couldn't create a directory that allready exists and so on. anyway, why does tf2 create a folder named orangebox in the my " srcds dir ". What my actually question is why does not the tf2 update just create a folder in the srcds dir named tf2 like the cstrike folder? -- //Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warzone Short Valley - Warzone.nu Steve S. wrote: > make sure the updatetool is in the folder that you are running it frum, if > you try to call it from a remote directory it will redownload everything. > > -Steve > > > > >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> I'm in the same boat. Everytime they release a new update i'm forced to >> re-download the entire TF2 server due to the update software not working >> correctly. I've tried every trick there is and it still won't work on my >> TF2 servers, but the update tool works fine on my CS:S servers. >> >> On 11/1/07, Luke Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> What is with having to delete the contents of the "bin" folder to make >>> the >>> server update correctly. Is that something on my end or is anyone else >>> having this issue? Also when I start with a blank folder with nothing >>> but >>> the updatetool it always give me a file creation error and stopsthis >>> game is starting to become the pain in my butt, it never updates >>> rightgreat game horrible server software. >>> >>> -Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham M >>> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:24 PM >>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update >>> >>> Problem! >>> >>> I'm getting the following error >>> >>> -bash2-2.05b$ ./steam -command update -game tf -dir tf2/ >>> Checking bootstrapper version ... >>> Updating Installation >>> >>> DebugAssert >>> Expr: ( close( m_pImpl->m_Socket ) ) == 0 >>> Line: 598 >>> File: ../Engine/Src/ContentServerBlockingConnection.cpp >>> Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) >>> >>> So it won't get the update? >>> >>> Cheers >>> Graham >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Kyle Cassidy >> >> 949.701.0759 cell >> http://Howies.TV >> -- >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] what do you mean with " make sure the updatetool is in the folder that you are running it frum"? i mean, you cant be en d:\steam\ and try to run the updatetool if its in D:\steam\updatetool or do you mean that we need to place it in the same directory that the instlalation should go to? i am trying to fetch the TF2 server and it just tries to download it to " orangebox " dir why? my strucutre ls like this: d:\steam\updatettool\ d:\steam\hlds\ d:\steam\srcds\ and when trying to update the tf2 it creates a new dir in srcds dir named orangebox with hl2 and bin folder and im guessing it will download the srcds.exe also (havent let it go that far) i run everything with bat scripts that many others do to mine looks like this: hlds: d: cd steam\updatetool HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game "cstrike" -dir D:\steam\hlds -username zapyadmin -password my_secret_password -retry -verify_all pause cs source: d: cd steam\updatetool HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game "counter-strike source" -dir D:\steam\srcds -username zapyadmin -password my_secret_password -retry -verify_all pause initial tf2 bat: d: cd steam\updatetool HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game "tf" -dir D:\steam\srcds -username zapyadmin -password my_secret_password -retry -verify_all pause because of the newly created folder orangebox inside srcds i changed the script: (because im guessing it will download the whole hl2 and bin and srcds.exe folders also so it gets "standalone") d: cd steam\updatetool HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game "tf" -dir D:\steam\ -username zapyadmin -password my_secret_password -retry -verify_all pause -- //Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warzone Short Valley - Warzone.nu Steve S. wrote: > make sure the updatetool is in the folder that you are running it frum, if > you try to call it from a remote directory it will redownload everything. > > -Steve > > > > >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> I'm in the same boat. Everytime they release a new update i'm forced to >> re-download the entire TF2 server due to the update software not working >> correctly. I've tried every trick there is and it still won't work on my >> TF2 servers, but the update tool works fine on my CS:S servers. >> >> On 11/1/07, Luke Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> What is with having to delete the contents of the "bin" folder to make >>> the >>> server update correctly. Is that something on my end or is anyone else >>> having this issue? Also when I start with a blank folder with nothing >>> but >>> the updatetool it always give me a file creation error and stopsthis >>> game is starting to become the pain in my butt, it never updates >>> rightgreat game horrible server software. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham M >>> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:24 PM >>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update >>> >>> Problem! >>> >>> I'm getting the following error >>> >>> -bash2-2.05b$ ./steam -command update -game tf -dir tf2/ >>> Checking bootstrapper version ... >>> Updating Installation >>> >>> DebugAssert >>> Expr: ( close( m_pImpl->m_Socket ) ) == 0 >>> Line: 598 >>> File: ../Engine/Src/ContentServerBlockingConnection.cpp >>> Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) >>> >>> So it won't get the update? >>> >>> Cheers >>> Graham >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Kyle Cassidy >> >> 949.701.0759 cell >> http://Howies.TV >> -- >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update
make sure the updatetool is in the folder that you are running it frum, if you try to call it from a remote directory it will redownload everything. -Steve > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I'm in the same boat. Everytime they release a new update i'm forced to > re-download the entire TF2 server due to the update software not working > correctly. I've tried every trick there is and it still won't work on my > TF2 servers, but the update tool works fine on my CS:S servers. > > On 11/1/07, Luke Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> What is with having to delete the contents of the "bin" folder to make >> the >> server update correctly. Is that something on my end or is anyone else >> having this issue? Also when I start with a blank folder with nothing >> but >> the updatetool it always give me a file creation error and stopsthis >> game is starting to become the pain in my butt, it never updates >> rightgreat game horrible server software. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham M >> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:24 PM >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update >> >> Problem! >> >> I'm getting the following error >> >> -bash2-2.05b$ ./steam -command update -game tf -dir tf2/ >> Checking bootstrapper version ... >> Updating Installation >> >> DebugAssert >> Expr: ( close( m_pImpl->m_Socket ) ) == 0 >> Line: 598 >> File: ../Engine/Src/ContentServerBlockingConnection.cpp >> Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) >> >> So it won't get the update? >> >> Cheers >> Graham >> >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > > -- > Kyle Cassidy > > 949.701.0759 cell > http://Howies.TV > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ah brilliant! Thanks! Server updated when I tried that :) Seems to be an all-round bug Graham Kyle Cassidy wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I'm in the same boat. Everytime they release a new update i'm forced to > re-download the entire TF2 server due to the update software not working > correctly. I've tried every trick there is and it still won't work on my > TF2 servers, but the update tool works fine on my CS:S servers. > > On 11/1/07, Luke Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> What is with having to delete the contents of the "bin" folder to make the >> server update correctly. Is that something on my end or is anyone else >> having this issue? Also when I start with a blank folder with nothing but >> the updatetool it always give me a file creation error and stopsthis >> game is starting to become the pain in my butt, it never updates >> rightgreat game horrible server software. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham M >> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:24 PM >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update >> >> Problem! >> >> I'm getting the following error >> >> -bash2-2.05b$ ./steam -command update -game tf -dir tf2/ >> Checking bootstrapper version ... >> Updating Installation >> >> DebugAssert >> Expr: ( close( m_pImpl->m_Socket ) ) == 0 >> Line: 598 >> File: ../Engine/Src/ContentServerBlockingConnection.cpp >> Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) >> >> So it won't get the update? >> >> Cheers >> Graham >> >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > > > -- > Kyle Cassidy > > 949.701.0759 cell > http://Howies.TV > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'm in the same boat. Everytime they release a new update i'm forced to re-download the entire TF2 server due to the update software not working correctly. I've tried every trick there is and it still won't work on my TF2 servers, but the update tool works fine on my CS:S servers. On 11/1/07, Luke Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is with having to delete the contents of the "bin" folder to make the > server update correctly. Is that something on my end or is anyone else > having this issue? Also when I start with a blank folder with nothing but > the updatetool it always give me a file creation error and stopsthis > game is starting to become the pain in my butt, it never updates > rightgreat game horrible server software. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham M > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:24 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update > > Problem! > > I'm getting the following error > > -bash2-2.05b$ ./steam -command update -game tf -dir tf2/ > Checking bootstrapper version ... > Updating Installation > > DebugAssert > Expr: ( close( m_pImpl->m_Socket ) ) == 0 > Line: 598 > File: ../Engine/Src/ContentServerBlockingConnection.cpp > Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) > > So it won't get the update? > > Cheers > Graham > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- Kyle Cassidy 949.701.0759 cell http://Howies.TV -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update
What is with having to delete the contents of the "bin" folder to make the server update correctly. Is that something on my end or is anyone else having this issue? Also when I start with a blank folder with nothing but the updatetool it always give me a file creation error and stopsthis game is starting to become the pain in my butt, it never updates rightgreat game horrible server software. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham M Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:24 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update Problem! I'm getting the following error -bash2-2.05b$ ./steam -command update -game tf -dir tf2/ Checking bootstrapper version ... Updating Installation DebugAssert Expr: ( close( m_pImpl->m_Socket ) ) == 0 Line: 598 File: ../Engine/Src/ContentServerBlockingConnection.cpp Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) So it won't get the update? Cheers Graham ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update
Problem! I'm getting the following error -bash2-2.05b$ ./steam -command update -game tf -dir tf2/ Checking bootstrapper version ... Updating Installation DebugAssert Expr: ( close( m_pImpl->m_Socket ) ) == 0 Line: 598 File: ../Engine/Src/ContentServerBlockingConnection.cpp Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) So it won't get the update? Cheers Graham Joseph H Harrison wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- I just did the update... Must have the new one as its showing 64+ FPS. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason Ruymen Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:39 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update Another update for Team Fortress 2 has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive it. The specific changes include: - Fixed a performance regression Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- [ winmail.dat of type application/ms-tnef deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- I just did the update... Must have the new one as its showing 64+ FPS. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason Ruymen Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:39 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update Another update for Team Fortress 2 has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive it. The specific changes include: - Fixed a performance regression Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- [ winmail.dat of type application/ms-tnef deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] For the past 2 or 3 server updates what i've had to do is download a completely new server then overwrite all the files that i customize and re add the adons. STEAM PLEASE FIX YOUR UPDATE TOOL, IT DOESN'T WORK. On 10/27/07, Joseph H Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When I updated my TF2 server yesterday all I put in was: > > "hldsupdatetool -game tf -command update" > > and it took off and updated in the correct dir and everything. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Holgate > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:48 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update > > > I have been running a bone stock TF2 server and since the update I cannot > get my server to update. Here is my command line for updating: > hldsupdatetool.exe -command update -game tf -dir c:\srcds -verify_all > -retry > > I have tried deleting all the files in the /bin directories but no luck... > I guess my next step is to try a complete install again. > > Mike > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. Bhandal > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 2:10 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > If you have a hacked engine.dll, server.dll or a player limit remover > plugin > that may be causing your problem if they have not been updated to > compatible > versions. > > If that's not the case, try deleting the contents of your orangebox/bin > directory, and your orangebox/tf2/bin directory, then retry the update > with > -verify_all -retry appended to the end. > > HTH. > > On 10/26/07, CAIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm having trouble updating my server. > > > > The update appeared to occur normally, however when I try to restart it, > > it > > still says server out of date please update. > > > > Suggestions please ?? > > > > -- Cain > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- Kyle Cassidy 949.701.0759 cell http://Howies.TV -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update
When I updated my TF2 server yesterday all I put in was: "hldsupdatetool -game tf -command update" and it took off and updated in the correct dir and everything. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Holgate Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:48 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update I have been running a bone stock TF2 server and since the update I cannot get my server to update. Here is my command line for updating: hldsupdatetool.exe -command update -game tf -dir c:\srcds -verify_all -retry I have tried deleting all the files in the /bin directories but no luck... I guess my next step is to try a complete install again. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. Bhandal Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 2:10 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] If you have a hacked engine.dll, server.dll or a player limit remover plugin that may be causing your problem if they have not been updated to compatible versions. If that's not the case, try deleting the contents of your orangebox/bin directory, and your orangebox/tf2/bin directory, then retry the update with -verify_all -retry appended to the end. HTH. On 10/26/07, CAIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm having trouble updating my server. > > The update appeared to occur normally, however when I try to restart it, > it > still says server out of date please update. > > Suggestions please ?? > > -- Cain > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update
I have been running a bone stock TF2 server and since the update I cannot get my server to update. Here is my command line for updating: hldsupdatetool.exe -command update -game tf -dir c:\srcds -verify_all -retry I have tried deleting all the files in the /bin directories but no luck... I guess my next step is to try a complete install again. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. Bhandal Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 2:10 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] If you have a hacked engine.dll, server.dll or a player limit remover plugin that may be causing your problem if they have not been updated to compatible versions. If that's not the case, try deleting the contents of your orangebox/bin directory, and your orangebox/tf2/bin directory, then retry the update with -verify_all -retry appended to the end. HTH. On 10/26/07, CAIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm having trouble updating my server. > > The update appeared to occur normally, however when I try to restart it, > it > still says server out of date please update. > > Suggestions please ?? > > -- Cain > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update
Thank you for the update Jason. Just curious if Valve have planned on fixing the menus only showing up for 4 seconds. Thank you for your time. Regards, Shadow -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:34 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update Required updates for Team Fortress 2 and it's dedicated servers are now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to update. The specific changes include: - Improved compatibility for direct sound - Deathcam screenshots now move the player id panel to the lower right, and hide other hud elements until the freezecam fades - Improved autobalance calculation code when determining who to switch - Improved networking compatibility for some routers - Fixed a crash during level init related to model loading - Fixed issues on Dustbowl and Hydro that could occur when a server emptied in the middle of a round - Fixed a bug in the clientside player avoidance code, and smoothed it a little more - Further crash fixes related to paged pool memory usage - Fixed scoreboard team scores label getting cut off - Engineer buildings now explode when the Engineer dies during sudden death - Fixed a spy backstab exploit where you could stab a player who was not facing away from you - Fixed flailing at the low end of the cloak meter when the player gets uncloaked automatically - Fixed texture detail level setting "Very high" not being preserved - Improved various error messages, and added links to steampowered support pages - Fixed scoring problem where destroying a buildable added a phantom point, not attributed to any scoring bucket but still included in total score - Fixed honeypot server problems - Fixed a rare crash caused by a medigun losing its owner - Fixed an exploit that allowed disconnected medics to continue ubercharging their target until they timed out - TeamMenu now disables the spectate button if mp_allowspectators is zero - Added a missing "cannot_be_spectator" localization string - Re-added class count numbers above class buttons for non-zero classes, in addition to the class images - Removed prefixes (tc_, ctf_, etc.) from map names in various places where they're printed - Fixed some edge cases where grenades could go through player or buildings - Fixed rocket/grenade explosions being able to impart damage through thin ceilings - The Engineer's "build X" commands will now behave properly when bound directly to keys Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] If you are using multiple srcds directories, did you specify the correct -dir option? (No offense, someone had to ask) -Mike On 10/26/07, Me you <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > If you are running TF2 from the //TF2 directory, try from the > //orangebox/TF2 directory or reverse depending on your current > command line. > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated > Server Update> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 > 02:00:47 -0700> > I'm having trouble updating my server.> > The update > appeared to occur normally, however when I try to restart it, it> still says > server out of date please update.> > Suggestions please ??> > -- Cain> > > > > __> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of > spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around> > http://mail.yahoo.com> > ___> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit:> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _ > Boo!Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! > > http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] If you are running TF2 from the //TF2 directory, try from the //orangebox/TF2 directory or reverse depending on your current command line. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server > Update> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:00:47 > -0700> > I'm having trouble updating my server.> > The update appeared to > occur normally, however when I try to restart it, it> still says server out > of date please update.> > Suggestions please ??> > -- Cain> > > > > __> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of > spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around> http://mail.yahoo.com> > > ___> To unsubscribe, edit your > list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] If you have a hacked engine.dll, server.dll or a player limit remover plugin that may be causing your problem if they have not been updated to compatible versions. If that's not the case, try deleting the contents of your orangebox/bin directory, and your orangebox/tf2/bin directory, then retry the update with -verify_all -retry appended to the end. HTH. On 10/26/07, CAIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm having trouble updating my server. > > The update appeared to occur normally, however when I try to restart it, > it > still says server out of date please update. > > Suggestions please ?? > > -- Cain > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server Update
I'm having trouble updating my server. The update appeared to occur normally, however when I try to restart it, it still says server out of date please update. Suggestions please ?? -- Cain __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update
ParaDOX wrote: Thanks for the update Jason. Is there a reason it say's it's updating from protocol 11 to 12, yet after the update HLSW is reporting it is protocol 11 after the update. I ran the update several times... It was successful each time and reports the server is up to date. I did see the version change from 1.0.0.4 to 1.0.0.5 Version: v1.0.0.5 (Windows, Dedicated, Protocol 11) Mike ParaDOX www.paradisesgarage.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 6:44 PM To: HLDS; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update A new required update to Team Fortress 2 and the dedicated servers have been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the updates. The specific changes include: - Improved driver checks for various cards that can have problems with specific driver versions - Various updates to Russian and Polish localization - Fixed loading screen and intro movie showing up on Windows Vista with full screen AA - Spies can no longer reload their revolver while cloaked - Demomen grenades now collide with players and Engineer buildings after the first bounce, but still won't explode on contact - Improved startup network initialization to catch issues with server firewalls popping up in the background - Fixed a sound corruption issue which could cause audio popping - Fixed achievement storage issues that caused a problem with the Head of the Class achievement Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Yea i see that too also i get this when starting the server up and yet the version is the newer than before and ive run the update with -verify all and still gives me that. ♥MasterRequestRestart Your server is out of date. Please update and restart. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update
Thanks for the update Jason. Is there a reason it say's it's updating from protocol 11 to 12, yet after the update HLSW is reporting it is protocol 11 after the update. I ran the update several times... It was successful each time and reports the server is up to date. I did see the version change from 1.0.0.4 to 1.0.0.5 Version: v1.0.0.5 (Windows, Dedicated, Protocol 11) Mike ParaDOX www.paradisesgarage.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 6:44 PM To: HLDS; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update A new required update to Team Fortress 2 and the dedicated servers have been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the updates. The specific changes include: - Improved driver checks for various cards that can have problems with specific driver versions - Various updates to Russian and Polish localization - Fixed loading screen and intro movie showing up on Windows Vista with full screen AA - Spies can no longer reload their revolver while cloaked - Demomen grenades now collide with players and Engineer buildings after the first bounce, but still won't explode on contact - Improved startup network initialization to catch issues with server firewalls popping up in the background - Fixed a sound corruption issue which could cause audio popping - Fixed achievement storage issues that caused a problem with the Head of the Class achievement Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
