Re: [hlds] Server Key
I personally don't want people connecting to my servers via IP's or hostnames. I would like to see search_key become a little more friendly, but I think that is *the best* way to connect to steam community servers. I have 8 servers for our community, I don't want them having to force_dedicated_server because what if that's full? All 8 are configured identically, you should just have to automatically pick an available one.. I think forcing people to connect directly to one is bad -- let the computer do it, that's what it's for. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Tony Paloma wrote: > I'm going to agree with msleeper here. I don't want to hear you whine about > how search key and the force dedicated cvars aren't enough for you. I'll > also agree with you that some integrated GUI stuff would be nice, but this > really isn't the place for it. > > If people can't find your servers using them or if you don't know how to set > them up on your server, fine, send email. This is for server discussions, > not for OMG-VALVE-THIS-IS-WHY-YOUR-GAME-SUCKS discussions. Valve set up SPUF > for that. > > -Original Message- > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:07 PM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > I have only been actively posting since ~last year, but I appreciate it > either way. But this also seems like a personal problem not suited for > the list, and should be posted about on steampowered. > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 17:02 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: >> Oh shut up, you've been posting your dumb crap here for years, and you're > why I left. Yes you, specifically. >> I came here for help about my problem, and all of one person has had the > decency to even respond - luckily it was someone with the same problem. >> >> > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com >> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:00:09 -0500 >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key >> > >> > The point is that you're blowing hot air at a bunch of people that don't >> > care. Get a blog or post your whining on steampowered. >> > >> > >> > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 16:56 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: >> > > And telling me to not complain on this list isn't going to stop me > from doing it. >> > > What's your point? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:44:34 -0600 >> > > > From: gulf...@gmail.com >> > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key >> > > > >> > > > They should be GUI options, but they aren't. And complaining on > this list >> > > > isn't going to get valve to add it to L4D2. >> > > > >> > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Blood Letter > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > I've already posted about it, and someone else has the same issue. >> > > > > I have the most basic of configs. It should work, and I have run > many >> > > > > servers in the past with no issue. >> > > > > >> > > > > I don't get what you don't understand - these should all be GUI > options - >> > > > > not things I have to set in the console (which is inaccessible > while in a >> > > > > lobby) or bind to shortcut keys or to the startup options. >> > > > > >> > > > > The issues I'm having with getting the server to properly accept > my lobby >> > > > > reservation are separate. >> > > > > >> > > > > > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com >> > > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:34:44 -0500 >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key >> > > > > > >> > > > > > This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff > works >> > > > > > for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed > to. Why >> > > > > > doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. > Why can't >> > > > > > you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like > something >> > > > > > that should be
Re: [hlds] Server Key
I'm going to agree with msleeper here. I don't want to hear you whine about how search key and the force dedicated cvars aren't enough for you. I'll also agree with you that some integrated GUI stuff would be nice, but this really isn't the place for it. If people can't find your servers using them or if you don't know how to set them up on your server, fine, send email. This is for server discussions, not for OMG-VALVE-THIS-IS-WHY-YOUR-GAME-SUCKS discussions. Valve set up SPUF for that. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:07 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key I have only been actively posting since ~last year, but I appreciate it either way. But this also seems like a personal problem not suited for the list, and should be posted about on steampowered. On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 17:02 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > Oh shut up, you've been posting your dumb crap here for years, and you're why I left. Yes you, specifically. > I came here for help about my problem, and all of one person has had the decency to even respond - luckily it was someone with the same problem. > > > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:00:09 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > The point is that you're blowing hot air at a bunch of people that don't > > care. Get a blog or post your whining on steampowered. > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 16:56 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > > > And telling me to not complain on this list isn't going to stop me from doing it. > > > What's your point? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:44:34 -0600 > > > > From: gulf...@gmail.com > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > > > They should be GUI options, but they aren't. And complaining on this list > > > > isn't going to get valve to add it to L4D2. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Blood Letter wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've already posted about it, and someone else has the same issue. > > > > > I have the most basic of configs. It should work, and I have run many > > > > > servers in the past with no issue. > > > > > > > > > > I don't get what you don't understand - these should all be GUI options - > > > > > not things I have to set in the console (which is inaccessible while in a > > > > > lobby) or bind to shortcut keys or to the startup options. > > > > > > > > > > The issues I'm having with getting the server to properly accept my lobby > > > > > reservation are separate. > > > > > > > > > > > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com > > > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:34:44 -0500 > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > > > > > > > This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff works > > > > > > for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed to. Why > > > > > > doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. Why can't > > > > > > you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like something > > > > > > that should be important to figure out. > > > > > > > > > > > > The search key and force dedicated servers lets you, as lobby leader, > > > > > > specify what servers you want to preference to. If the servers are full > > > > > > then you'll go to another server, just like you normally would. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't get what you're not understanding. "I should have the direct > > > > > > option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as the > > > > > > option of being matched to one." That's exactly what search key and/or > > > > > > force dedicated servers does. You specify a server to use, and if it is > > > > > > free then you go to it. Your little list of complains all work with > > > > > > minimal effort, except the first one which doesn&
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msleeper, stop trying to be the HLDS list police. You've been an arrogant jerk on here for as long as I can remember. All it takes is a brief look back at your response history to see you are an ass in most topics. Now please leave my topic alone and go elsewhere. I asked questions, they were answered. I asked a couple more questions and you derailed it into a flame-fest and those questions haven't been answered. Go away please. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:50 PM, wrote: > You are clueless. > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -Original Message- > From: Blood Letter > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:02:10 > To: > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > Oh shut up, you've been posting your dumb crap here for years, and you're > why I left. Yes you, specifically. > I came here for help about my problem, and all of one person has had the > decency to even respond - luckily it was someone with the same problem. > > > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:00:09 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > The point is that you're blowing hot air at a bunch of people that don't > > care. Get a blog or post your whining on steampowered. > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 16:56 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > > > And telling me to not complain on this list isn't going to stop me from > doing it. > > > What's your point? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:44:34 -0600 > > > > From: gulf...@gmail.com > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > > > They should be GUI options, but they aren't. And complaining on this > list > > > > isn't going to get valve to add it to L4D2. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Blood Letter < > bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've already posted about it, and someone else has the same issue. > > > > > I have the most basic of configs. It should work, and I have run > many > > > > > servers in the past with no issue. > > > > > > > > > > I don't get what you don't understand - these should all be GUI > options - > > > > > not things I have to set in the console (which is inaccessible > while in a > > > > > lobby) or bind to shortcut keys or to the startup options. > > > > > > > > > > The issues I'm having with getting the server to properly accept my > lobby > > > > > reservation are separate. > > > > > > > > > > > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com > > > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:34:44 -0500 > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > > > > > > > This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff > works > > > > > > for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed > to. Why > > > > > > doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. Why > can't > > > > > > you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like > something > > > > > > that should be important to figure out. > > > > > > > > > > > > The search key and force dedicated servers lets you, as lobby > leader, > > > > > > specify what servers you want to preference to. If the servers > are full > > > > > > then you'll go to another server, just like you normally would. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't get what you're not understanding. "I should have the > direct > > > > > > option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as > the > > > > > > option of being matched to one." That's exactly what search key > and/or > > > > > > force dedicated servers does. You specify a server to use, and if > it is > > > > > > free then you go to it. Your little list of complains all work > with > > > > > > minimal effort, except the first one which doesn't really make > sense > > > > > > with the type of environment in L4D/L4D2. > > > > > > > > > > > > This isn't TF2 or CSS, you can&
Re: [hlds] Server Key
You are clueless. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Blood Letter Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:02:10 To: Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key Oh shut up, you've been posting your dumb crap here for years, and you're why I left. Yes you, specifically. I came here for help about my problem, and all of one person has had the decency to even respond - luckily it was someone with the same problem. > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:00:09 -0500 > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > The point is that you're blowing hot air at a bunch of people that don't > care. Get a blog or post your whining on steampowered. > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 16:56 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > > And telling me to not complain on this list isn't going to stop me from > > doing it. > > What's your point? > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:44:34 -0600 > > > From: gulf...@gmail.com > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > They should be GUI options, but they aren't. And complaining on this list > > > isn't going to get valve to add it to L4D2. > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Blood Letter > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I've already posted about it, and someone else has the same issue. > > > > I have the most basic of configs. It should work, and I have run many > > > > servers in the past with no issue. > > > > > > > > I don't get what you don't understand - these should all be GUI options > > > > - > > > > not things I have to set in the console (which is inaccessible while in > > > > a > > > > lobby) or bind to shortcut keys or to the startup options. > > > > > > > > The issues I'm having with getting the server to properly accept my > > > > lobby > > > > reservation are separate. > > > > > > > > > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com > > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:34:44 -0500 > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > > > > > This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff works > > > > > for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed to. Why > > > > > doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. Why > > > > > can't > > > > > you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like something > > > > > that should be important to figure out. > > > > > > > > > > The search key and force dedicated servers lets you, as lobby leader, > > > > > specify what servers you want to preference to. If the servers are > > > > > full > > > > > then you'll go to another server, just like you normally would. > > > > > > > > > > I don't get what you're not understanding. "I should have the direct > > > > > option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as the > > > > > option of being matched to one." That's exactly what search key and/or > > > > > force dedicated servers does. You specify a server to use, and if it > > > > > is > > > > > free then you go to it. Your little list of complains all work with > > > > > minimal effort, except the first one which doesn't really make sense > > > > > with the type of environment in L4D/L4D2. > > > > > > > > > > This isn't TF2 or CSS, you can't just join any server and start > > > > > playing. > > > > > If you want to do that, then remove your server from the lobby system > > > > > and connect directly via IP. If you want to use a lobby, then use some > > > > > combination of the many server CVARs to make it possible. You can't > > > > > have > > > > > it both ways, they conflict how eachother work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 15:24 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > > > > > > Uh, search key doesn't work for me, and force dedicated server > > > > > > requires > > > > that I can actually connect to the server. > > > > > > &
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I have only been actively posting since ~last year, but I appreciate it either way. But this also seems like a personal problem not suited for the list, and should be posted about on steampowered. On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 17:02 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > Oh shut up, you've been posting your dumb crap here for years, and you're why > I left. Yes you, specifically. > I came here for help about my problem, and all of one person has had the > decency to even respond - luckily it was someone with the same problem. > > > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:00:09 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > The point is that you're blowing hot air at a bunch of people that don't > > care. Get a blog or post your whining on steampowered. > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 16:56 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > > > And telling me to not complain on this list isn't going to stop me from > > > doing it. > > > What's your point? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:44:34 -0600 > > > > From: gulf...@gmail.com > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > > > They should be GUI options, but they aren't. And complaining on this > > > > list > > > > isn't going to get valve to add it to L4D2. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Blood Letter > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've already posted about it, and someone else has the same issue. > > > > > I have the most basic of configs. It should work, and I have run many > > > > > servers in the past with no issue. > > > > > > > > > > I don't get what you don't understand - these should all be GUI > > > > > options - > > > > > not things I have to set in the console (which is inaccessible while > > > > > in a > > > > > lobby) or bind to shortcut keys or to the startup options. > > > > > > > > > > The issues I'm having with getting the server to properly accept my > > > > > lobby > > > > > reservation are separate. > > > > > > > > > > > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com > > > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:34:44 -0500 > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > > > > > > > This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff > > > > > > works > > > > > > for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed to. > > > > > > Why > > > > > > doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. Why > > > > > > can't > > > > > > you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like something > > > > > > that should be important to figure out. > > > > > > > > > > > > The search key and force dedicated servers lets you, as lobby > > > > > > leader, > > > > > > specify what servers you want to preference to. If the servers are > > > > > > full > > > > > > then you'll go to another server, just like you normally would. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't get what you're not understanding. "I should have the direct > > > > > > option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as the > > > > > > option of being matched to one." That's exactly what search key > > > > > > and/or > > > > > > force dedicated servers does. You specify a server to use, and if > > > > > > it is > > > > > > free then you go to it. Your little list of complains all work with > > > > > > minimal effort, except the first one which doesn't really make sense > > > > > > with the type of environment in L4D/L4D2. > > > > > > > > > > > > This isn't TF2 or CSS, you can't just join any server and start > > > > > > playing. > > > > > > If you want to do that, then remove your server from the lobby > > > > > > system >
Re: [hlds] Server Key
Oh shut up, you've been posting your dumb crap here for years, and you're why I left. Yes you, specifically. I came here for help about my problem, and all of one person has had the decency to even respond - luckily it was someone with the same problem. > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:00:09 -0500 > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > The point is that you're blowing hot air at a bunch of people that don't > care. Get a blog or post your whining on steampowered. > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 16:56 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > > And telling me to not complain on this list isn't going to stop me from > > doing it. > > What's your point? > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:44:34 -0600 > > > From: gulf...@gmail.com > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > They should be GUI options, but they aren't. And complaining on this list > > > isn't going to get valve to add it to L4D2. > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Blood Letter > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I've already posted about it, and someone else has the same issue. > > > > I have the most basic of configs. It should work, and I have run many > > > > servers in the past with no issue. > > > > > > > > I don't get what you don't understand - these should all be GUI options > > > > - > > > > not things I have to set in the console (which is inaccessible while in > > > > a > > > > lobby) or bind to shortcut keys or to the startup options. > > > > > > > > The issues I'm having with getting the server to properly accept my > > > > lobby > > > > reservation are separate. > > > > > > > > > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com > > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:34:44 -0500 > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > > > > > This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff works > > > > > for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed to. Why > > > > > doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. Why > > > > > can't > > > > > you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like something > > > > > that should be important to figure out. > > > > > > > > > > The search key and force dedicated servers lets you, as lobby leader, > > > > > specify what servers you want to preference to. If the servers are > > > > > full > > > > > then you'll go to another server, just like you normally would. > > > > > > > > > > I don't get what you're not understanding. "I should have the direct > > > > > option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as the > > > > > option of being matched to one." That's exactly what search key and/or > > > > > force dedicated servers does. You specify a server to use, and if it > > > > > is > > > > > free then you go to it. Your little list of complains all work with > > > > > minimal effort, except the first one which doesn't really make sense > > > > > with the type of environment in L4D/L4D2. > > > > > > > > > > This isn't TF2 or CSS, you can't just join any server and start > > > > > playing. > > > > > If you want to do that, then remove your server from the lobby system > > > > > and connect directly via IP. If you want to use a lobby, then use some > > > > > combination of the many server CVARs to make it possible. You can't > > > > > have > > > > > it both ways, they conflict how eachother work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 15:24 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > > > > > > Uh, search key doesn't work for me, and force dedicated server > > > > > > requires > > > > that I can actually connect to the server. > > > > > > > > > > > > I currently can not start a lobby and join the lobby to my server. > > > > > > I currently can not join my server directly
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The point is that you're blowing hot air at a bunch of people that don't care. Get a blog or post your whining on steampowered. On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 16:56 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > And telling me to not complain on this list isn't going to stop me from doing > it. > What's your point? > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:44:34 -0600 > > From: gulf...@gmail.com > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > They should be GUI options, but they aren't. And complaining on this list > > isn't going to get valve to add it to L4D2. > > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Blood Letter > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I've already posted about it, and someone else has the same issue. > > > I have the most basic of configs. It should work, and I have run many > > > servers in the past with no issue. > > > > > > I don't get what you don't understand - these should all be GUI options - > > > not things I have to set in the console (which is inaccessible while in a > > > lobby) or bind to shortcut keys or to the startup options. > > > > > > The issues I'm having with getting the server to properly accept my lobby > > > reservation are separate. > > > > > > > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:34:44 -0500 > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > > > This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff works > > > > for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed to. Why > > > > doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. Why can't > > > > you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like something > > > > that should be important to figure out. > > > > > > > > The search key and force dedicated servers lets you, as lobby leader, > > > > specify what servers you want to preference to. If the servers are full > > > > then you'll go to another server, just like you normally would. > > > > > > > > I don't get what you're not understanding. "I should have the direct > > > > option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as the > > > > option of being matched to one." That's exactly what search key and/or > > > > force dedicated servers does. You specify a server to use, and if it is > > > > free then you go to it. Your little list of complains all work with > > > > minimal effort, except the first one which doesn't really make sense > > > > with the type of environment in L4D/L4D2. > > > > > > > > This isn't TF2 or CSS, you can't just join any server and start playing. > > > > If you want to do that, then remove your server from the lobby system > > > > and connect directly via IP. If you want to use a lobby, then use some > > > > combination of the many server CVARs to make it possible. You can't have > > > > it both ways, they conflict how eachother work. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 15:24 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > > > > > Uh, search key doesn't work for me, and force dedicated server > > > > > requires > > > that I can actually connect to the server. > > > > > > > > > > I currently can not start a lobby and join the lobby to my server. > > > > > I currently can not join my server directly from the steam group > > > > > server > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > I have to have someone outside of my lan join the server from the > > > > > steam > > > group list. > > > > > Then and only then am I able to join the server (by joining their > > > > > lobby > > > explicitly or implicitly through the steam group server list). > > > > > > > > > > Joining the server normally results in a "session no longer valid" > > > error when it attempts to connect. > > > > > Using a search key results in absolutely nothing - the server is never > > > found, and I never attempt to connect. > > > > > > > > > > And why would I set a default search key or force dedicated servers > > > list? > > > > > My server is public and I would only
Re: [hlds] Server Key
And telling me to not complain on this list isn't going to stop me from doing it. What's your point? > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:44:34 -0600 > From: gulf...@gmail.com > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > They should be GUI options, but they aren't. And complaining on this list > isn't going to get valve to add it to L4D2. > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Blood Letter > wrote: > > > > > I've already posted about it, and someone else has the same issue. > > I have the most basic of configs. It should work, and I have run many > > servers in the past with no issue. > > > > I don't get what you don't understand - these should all be GUI options - > > not things I have to set in the console (which is inaccessible while in a > > lobby) or bind to shortcut keys or to the startup options. > > > > The issues I'm having with getting the server to properly accept my lobby > > reservation are separate. > > > > > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:34:44 -0500 > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff works > > > for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed to. Why > > > doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. Why can't > > > you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like something > > > that should be important to figure out. > > > > > > The search key and force dedicated servers lets you, as lobby leader, > > > specify what servers you want to preference to. If the servers are full > > > then you'll go to another server, just like you normally would. > > > > > > I don't get what you're not understanding. "I should have the direct > > > option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as the > > > option of being matched to one." That's exactly what search key and/or > > > force dedicated servers does. You specify a server to use, and if it is > > > free then you go to it. Your little list of complains all work with > > > minimal effort, except the first one which doesn't really make sense > > > with the type of environment in L4D/L4D2. > > > > > > This isn't TF2 or CSS, you can't just join any server and start playing. > > > If you want to do that, then remove your server from the lobby system > > > and connect directly via IP. If you want to use a lobby, then use some > > > combination of the many server CVARs to make it possible. You can't have > > > it both ways, they conflict how eachother work. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 15:24 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > > > > Uh, search key doesn't work for me, and force dedicated server requires > > that I can actually connect to the server. > > > > > > > > I currently can not start a lobby and join the lobby to my server. > > > > I currently can not join my server directly from the steam group server > > list. > > > > > > > > I have to have someone outside of my lan join the server from the steam > > group list. > > > > Then and only then am I able to join the server (by joining their lobby > > explicitly or implicitly through the steam group server list). > > > > > > > > Joining the server normally results in a "session no longer valid" > > error when it attempts to connect. > > > > Using a search key results in absolutely nothing - the server is never > > found, and I never attempt to connect. > > > > > > > > And why would I set a default search key or force dedicated servers > > list? > > > > My server is public and I would only want to use it if it's free - > > otherwise I'm content joining whatever server I'm matched with (when I'm > > lobby leader). > > > > > > > > I can bind shortcuts. I can set launch options. I can get on my > > server which isn't functioning as it should. > > > > But I should have the direct option of choosing a server (mine and my > > favorites) as well as the option of being matched to one. > > > > > > > > It's not rocket science. I shouldn't have to jump through ANY hoops > > to: > > > > > > > > Open the game, get directly (no lobby
Re: [hlds] Server Key
They should be GUI options, but they aren't. And complaining on this list isn't going to get valve to add it to L4D2. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Blood Letter wrote: > > I've already posted about it, and someone else has the same issue. > I have the most basic of configs. It should work, and I have run many > servers in the past with no issue. > > I don't get what you don't understand - these should all be GUI options - > not things I have to set in the console (which is inaccessible while in a > lobby) or bind to shortcut keys or to the startup options. > > The issues I'm having with getting the server to properly accept my lobby > reservation are separate. > > > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:34:44 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff works > > for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed to. Why > > doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. Why can't > > you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like something > > that should be important to figure out. > > > > The search key and force dedicated servers lets you, as lobby leader, > > specify what servers you want to preference to. If the servers are full > > then you'll go to another server, just like you normally would. > > > > I don't get what you're not understanding. "I should have the direct > > option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as the > > option of being matched to one." That's exactly what search key and/or > > force dedicated servers does. You specify a server to use, and if it is > > free then you go to it. Your little list of complains all work with > > minimal effort, except the first one which doesn't really make sense > > with the type of environment in L4D/L4D2. > > > > This isn't TF2 or CSS, you can't just join any server and start playing. > > If you want to do that, then remove your server from the lobby system > > and connect directly via IP. If you want to use a lobby, then use some > > combination of the many server CVARs to make it possible. You can't have > > it both ways, they conflict how eachother work. > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 15:24 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > > > Uh, search key doesn't work for me, and force dedicated server requires > that I can actually connect to the server. > > > > > > I currently can not start a lobby and join the lobby to my server. > > > I currently can not join my server directly from the steam group server > list. > > > > > > I have to have someone outside of my lan join the server from the steam > group list. > > > Then and only then am I able to join the server (by joining their lobby > explicitly or implicitly through the steam group server list). > > > > > > Joining the server normally results in a "session no longer valid" > error when it attempts to connect. > > > Using a search key results in absolutely nothing - the server is never > found, and I never attempt to connect. > > > > > > And why would I set a default search key or force dedicated servers > list? > > > My server is public and I would only want to use it if it's free - > otherwise I'm content joining whatever server I'm matched with (when I'm > lobby leader). > > > > > > I can bind shortcuts. I can set launch options. I can get on my > server which isn't functioning as it should. > > > But I should have the direct option of choosing a server (mine and my > favorites) as well as the option of being matched to one. > > > > > > It's not rocket science. I shouldn't have to jump through ANY hoops > to: > > > > > > Open the game, get directly (no lobby screen) to my server or a > favorite server, if available. > > > Open the game, make a lobby, tell it to use my server or a favorite > server, if available. > > > Open the game, make a lobby, tell it to match me to an available > server. > > > > > > > > > > From: mu...@anbservers.net > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:54:12 -0500 > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > > > Add +sv_search_key to launch options > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: hlds-
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I've already posted about it, and someone else has the same issue. I have the most basic of configs. It should work, and I have run many servers in the past with no issue. I don't get what you don't understand - these should all be GUI options - not things I have to set in the console (which is inaccessible while in a lobby) or bind to shortcut keys or to the startup options. The issues I'm having with getting the server to properly accept my lobby reservation are separate. > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:34:44 -0500 > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff works > for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed to. Why > doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. Why can't > you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like something > that should be important to figure out. > > The search key and force dedicated servers lets you, as lobby leader, > specify what servers you want to preference to. If the servers are full > then you'll go to another server, just like you normally would. > > I don't get what you're not understanding. "I should have the direct > option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as the > option of being matched to one." That's exactly what search key and/or > force dedicated servers does. You specify a server to use, and if it is > free then you go to it. Your little list of complains all work with > minimal effort, except the first one which doesn't really make sense > with the type of environment in L4D/L4D2. > > This isn't TF2 or CSS, you can't just join any server and start playing. > If you want to do that, then remove your server from the lobby system > and connect directly via IP. If you want to use a lobby, then use some > combination of the many server CVARs to make it possible. You can't have > it both ways, they conflict how eachother work. > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 15:24 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > > Uh, search key doesn't work for me, and force dedicated server requires > > that I can actually connect to the server. > > > > I currently can not start a lobby and join the lobby to my server. > > I currently can not join my server directly from the steam group server > > list. > > > > I have to have someone outside of my lan join the server from the steam > > group list. > > Then and only then am I able to join the server (by joining their lobby > > explicitly or implicitly through the steam group server list). > > > > Joining the server normally results in a "session no longer valid" error > > when it attempts to connect. > > Using a search key results in absolutely nothing - the server is never > > found, and I never attempt to connect. > > > > And why would I set a default search key or force dedicated servers list? > > My server is public and I would only want to use it if it's free - > > otherwise I'm content joining whatever server I'm matched with (when I'm > > lobby leader). > > > > I can bind shortcuts. I can set launch options. I can get on my server > > which isn't functioning as it should. > > But I should have the direct option of choosing a server (mine and my > > favorites) as well as the option of being matched to one. > > > > It's not rocket science. I shouldn't have to jump through ANY hoops to: > > > > Open the game, get directly (no lobby screen) to my server or a favorite > > server, if available. > > Open the game, make a lobby, tell it to use my server or a favorite server, > > if available. > > Open the game, make a lobby, tell it to match me to an available server. > > > > > > > From: mu...@anbservers.net > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:54:12 -0500 > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > Add +sv_search_key to launch options > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Johan Andersson > > > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:04 PM > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > bind F8 "mm_dedicated_force_servers IPADRESS" > > > > > > Press F8 before starting the search for a server. > > > > >
Re: [hlds] Server Key
"search_key and dedicated_force_servers. If you just want to... quick play, use the Quick Play option. Seriously - how is this difficult to grasp?" How difficult is it for you to grasp that this is not intuitive and does not tell the player what the ping is to the server before they join? Using the search_key function is not ideal and is only effective if YOU are the Lobby Leader and know exactly what server you want to goto and know what the key and/or IP of that server is? It is flawed, and has been a complaint on the mailing lists since L4D launch a year ago. The Steam Group functions and the server lists were added into the game based on these complaints. Why you are so defensive over people not liking the way this currently functions is rather strange. It doesn't work very well, and the largest drawback to how it is all setup is that players cannot see the pings to the servers and select which empty server with a desired ping they want to join. "and/or they expect things to exist (IE - server browser) that also do not make sense within the context of how the game operates." If the Quick Play option exists, there is no reason the server browser can't exist. People could enable the browser via the console in the first game, but the servers also had to enabled to be joined that way as well. The disabling of this function in both games is counter intuitive. "And don't try to be sensationalist and compare this to another game that is totally unrelated. You just make yourself look stupid." Actually your attitude and insults just makes you look this way. The conversation was going just fine till you came here acting all high and mighty. If you are fine with how things work, and can't answer peoples questions and discuss the functionality without the attitude, then move along and stay out of the conversation. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 4:20 PM, msleeper wrote: > Well, again, if you want to choose what server you are going to, there > are mechanisms set up for that - search_key and dedicated_force_servers. > If you just want to... quick play, use the Quick Play option. Seriously > - how is this difficult to grasp? > > The system is not flawed, people are just trying to use it to do things > that do not exist within the context of how the game operates, and/or > they expect things to exist (IE - server browser) that also do not make > sense within the context of how the game operates. > > And don't try to be sensationalist and compare this to another game that > is totally unrelated. You just make yourself look stupid. > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 15:50 -0800, shoskins73 wrote: > > "you can't just join any server and start playing." > > > > Actually, yes you can, it's called Quick Play and is in the UI for all > game > > modes. This is no different than selecting a server from a browser list > > (CSS/TF2)...except for one small thing, you don't get to choose which > server > > you are actually joining. You can also join a game in progress from the > > Game Mode screens, but you can't see ping, who is currently playing, etc, > > etc. > > > > The system as it is now, is really flawed. Has been since they started > it > > in L4D. Removing the ability for people to choose the server, see the > > status of said server before joining and then not including a UI function > in > > the Lobby for joining a specific server is a step backwards. Almost as > bad > > as MW2 not having dedicated servers at all. > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:34 PM, msleeper >wrote: > > > > > This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff works > > > for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed to. Why > > > doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. Why can't > > > you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like something > > > that should be important to figure out. > > > > > > The search key and force dedicated servers lets you, as lobby leader, > > > specify what servers you want to preference to. If the servers are full > > > then you'll go to another server, just like you normally would. > > > > > > I don't get what you're not understanding. "I should have the direct > > > option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as the > > > option of being matched to one." That's exactly what search key and/or > > > force dedicated servers does. You specify a server to use, and if it is > > > free then you go to it. Your little list of complains all work with > > > minimal effort, except the first one which doesn't really make sense > > > with the type of environment in L4D/L4D2. > > > > > > This isn't TF2 or CSS, you can't just join any server and start > playing. > > > If you want to do that, then remove your server from the lobby system > > > and connect directly via IP. If you want to use a lobby, then use some > > > combination of the many server CVARs to make it possible. You can't > have > > > it both ways, they conflict how eachother wor
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Well, again, if you want to choose what server you are going to, there are mechanisms set up for that - search_key and dedicated_force_servers. If you just want to... quick play, use the Quick Play option. Seriously - how is this difficult to grasp? The system is not flawed, people are just trying to use it to do things that do not exist within the context of how the game operates, and/or they expect things to exist (IE - server browser) that also do not make sense within the context of how the game operates. And don't try to be sensationalist and compare this to another game that is totally unrelated. You just make yourself look stupid. On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 15:50 -0800, shoskins73 wrote: > "you can't just join any server and start playing." > > Actually, yes you can, it's called Quick Play and is in the UI for all game > modes. This is no different than selecting a server from a browser list > (CSS/TF2)...except for one small thing, you don't get to choose which server > you are actually joining. You can also join a game in progress from the > Game Mode screens, but you can't see ping, who is currently playing, etc, > etc. > > The system as it is now, is really flawed. Has been since they started it > in L4D. Removing the ability for people to choose the server, see the > status of said server before joining and then not including a UI function in > the Lobby for joining a specific server is a step backwards. Almost as bad > as MW2 not having dedicated servers at all. > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:34 PM, msleeper wrote: > > > This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff works > > for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed to. Why > > doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. Why can't > > you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like something > > that should be important to figure out. > > > > The search key and force dedicated servers lets you, as lobby leader, > > specify what servers you want to preference to. If the servers are full > > then you'll go to another server, just like you normally would. > > > > I don't get what you're not understanding. "I should have the direct > > option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as the > > option of being matched to one." That's exactly what search key and/or > > force dedicated servers does. You specify a server to use, and if it is > > free then you go to it. Your little list of complains all work with > > minimal effort, except the first one which doesn't really make sense > > with the type of environment in L4D/L4D2. > > > > This isn't TF2 or CSS, you can't just join any server and start playing. > > If you want to do that, then remove your server from the lobby system > > and connect directly via IP. If you want to use a lobby, then use some > > combination of the many server CVARs to make it possible. You can't have > > it both ways, they conflict how eachother work. > > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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I think it's more likely that there simply aren't any better servers out there. When we searched for a server last night (due to a routing issue one of the 4 of use could not use our own servers) we first ended up with a lobby-leader-hosted server, and secondly with one hosted in Chicago, USA (we're all in the UK) Certainly our own public servers always have people in them at least 18 hours of the day atm. > -Original Message- > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds- > boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of shoskins73 > Sent: 20 November 2009 23:53 > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > I'm going to make the assumption that when searching for "Best > Available > Dedicated Server" from a Lobby that it looks at your Steam Group > servers > first, which actually might explain a lot of why I keep getting the > same > servers with bad pings. Guess I'll be leaving the official Left 4 Dead > 2 > Steam community so it stops going for the servers people have attached > to > that group. > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:50 PM, shoskins73 > wrote: > > > "you can't just join any server and start playing." > > > > Actually, yes you can, it's called Quick Play and is in the UI for > all game > > modes. This is no different than selecting a server from a browser > list > > (CSS/TF2)...except for one small thing, you don't get to choose which > server > > you are actually joining. You can also join a game in progress from > the > > Game Mode screens, but you can't see ping, who is currently playing, > etc, > > etc. > > > > The system as it is now, is really flawed. Has been since they > started it > > in L4D. Removing the ability for people to choose the server, see > the > > status of said server before joining and then not including a UI > function in > > the Lobby for joining a specific server is a step backwards. Almost > as bad > > as MW2 not having dedicated servers at all. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:34 PM, msleeper > wrote: > > > >> This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff > works > >> for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed to. > Why > >> doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. Why > can't > >> you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like something > >> that should be important to figure out. > >> > >> The search key and force dedicated servers lets you, as lobby > leader, > >> specify what servers you want to preference to. If the servers are > full > >> then you'll go to another server, just like you normally would. > >> > >> I don't get what you're not understanding. "I should have the direct > >> option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as the > >> option of being matched to one." That's exactly what search key > and/or > >> force dedicated servers does. You specify a server to use, and if it > is > >> free then you go to it. Your little list of complains all work with > >> minimal effort, except the first one which doesn't really make sense > >> with the type of environment in L4D/L4D2. > >> > >> This isn't TF2 or CSS, you can't just join any server and start > playing. > >> If you want to do that, then remove your server from the lobby > system > >> and connect directly via IP. If you want to use a lobby, then use > some > >> combination of the many server CVARs to make it possible. You can't > have > >> it both ways, they conflict how eachother work. > >> > >> > >> > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Server Key
I'm going to make the assumption that when searching for "Best Available Dedicated Server" from a Lobby that it looks at your Steam Group servers first, which actually might explain a lot of why I keep getting the same servers with bad pings. Guess I'll be leaving the official Left 4 Dead 2 Steam community so it stops going for the servers people have attached to that group. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:50 PM, shoskins73 wrote: > "you can't just join any server and start playing." > > Actually, yes you can, it's called Quick Play and is in the UI for all game > modes. This is no different than selecting a server from a browser list > (CSS/TF2)...except for one small thing, you don't get to choose which server > you are actually joining. You can also join a game in progress from the > Game Mode screens, but you can't see ping, who is currently playing, etc, > etc. > > The system as it is now, is really flawed. Has been since they started it > in L4D. Removing the ability for people to choose the server, see the > status of said server before joining and then not including a UI function in > the Lobby for joining a specific server is a step backwards. Almost as bad > as MW2 not having dedicated servers at all. > > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:34 PM, msleeper wrote: > >> This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff works >> for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed to. Why >> doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. Why can't >> you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like something >> that should be important to figure out. >> >> The search key and force dedicated servers lets you, as lobby leader, >> specify what servers you want to preference to. If the servers are full >> then you'll go to another server, just like you normally would. >> >> I don't get what you're not understanding. "I should have the direct >> option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as the >> option of being matched to one." That's exactly what search key and/or >> force dedicated servers does. You specify a server to use, and if it is >> free then you go to it. Your little list of complains all work with >> minimal effort, except the first one which doesn't really make sense >> with the type of environment in L4D/L4D2. >> >> This isn't TF2 or CSS, you can't just join any server and start playing. >> If you want to do that, then remove your server from the lobby system >> and connect directly via IP. If you want to use a lobby, then use some >> combination of the many server CVARs to make it possible. You can't have >> it both ways, they conflict how eachother work. >> >> >> > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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"you can't just join any server and start playing." Actually, yes you can, it's called Quick Play and is in the UI for all game modes. This is no different than selecting a server from a browser list (CSS/TF2)...except for one small thing, you don't get to choose which server you are actually joining. You can also join a game in progress from the Game Mode screens, but you can't see ping, who is currently playing, etc, etc. The system as it is now, is really flawed. Has been since they started it in L4D. Removing the ability for people to choose the server, see the status of said server before joining and then not including a UI function in the Lobby for joining a specific server is a step backwards. Almost as bad as MW2 not having dedicated servers at all. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:34 PM, msleeper wrote: > This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff works > for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed to. Why > doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. Why can't > you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like something > that should be important to figure out. > > The search key and force dedicated servers lets you, as lobby leader, > specify what servers you want to preference to. If the servers are full > then you'll go to another server, just like you normally would. > > I don't get what you're not understanding. "I should have the direct > option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as the > option of being matched to one." That's exactly what search key and/or > force dedicated servers does. You specify a server to use, and if it is > free then you go to it. Your little list of complains all work with > minimal effort, except the first one which doesn't really make sense > with the type of environment in L4D/L4D2. > > This isn't TF2 or CSS, you can't just join any server and start playing. > If you want to do that, then remove your server from the lobby system > and connect directly via IP. If you want to use a lobby, then use some > combination of the many server CVARs to make it possible. You can't have > it both ways, they conflict how eachother work. > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Server Key
This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff works for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed to. Why doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. Why can't you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like something that should be important to figure out. The search key and force dedicated servers lets you, as lobby leader, specify what servers you want to preference to. If the servers are full then you'll go to another server, just like you normally would. I don't get what you're not understanding. "I should have the direct option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as the option of being matched to one." That's exactly what search key and/or force dedicated servers does. You specify a server to use, and if it is free then you go to it. Your little list of complains all work with minimal effort, except the first one which doesn't really make sense with the type of environment in L4D/L4D2. This isn't TF2 or CSS, you can't just join any server and start playing. If you want to do that, then remove your server from the lobby system and connect directly via IP. If you want to use a lobby, then use some combination of the many server CVARs to make it possible. You can't have it both ways, they conflict how eachother work. On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 15:24 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > Uh, search key doesn't work for me, and force dedicated server requires that > I can actually connect to the server. > > I currently can not start a lobby and join the lobby to my server. > I currently can not join my server directly from the steam group server list. > > I have to have someone outside of my lan join the server from the steam group > list. > Then and only then am I able to join the server (by joining their lobby > explicitly or implicitly through the steam group server list). > > Joining the server normally results in a "session no longer valid" error when > it attempts to connect. > Using a search key results in absolutely nothing - the server is never found, > and I never attempt to connect. > > And why would I set a default search key or force dedicated servers list? > My server is public and I would only want to use it if it's free - otherwise > I'm content joining whatever server I'm matched with (when I'm lobby leader). > > I can bind shortcuts. I can set launch options. I can get on my server > which isn't functioning as it should. > But I should have the direct option of choosing a server (mine and my > favorites) as well as the option of being matched to one. > > It's not rocket science. I shouldn't have to jump through ANY hoops to: > > Open the game, get directly (no lobby screen) to my server or a favorite > server, if available. > Open the game, make a lobby, tell it to use my server or a favorite server, > if available. > Open the game, make a lobby, tell it to match me to an available server. > > > > From: mu...@anbservers.net > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:54:12 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > Add +sv_search_key to launch options > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Johan Andersson > > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:04 PM > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > bind F8 "mm_dedicated_force_servers IPADRESS" > > > > Press F8 before starting the search for a server. > > > > Couldn't be any easier tbh. > > > > -- > > From: "Blood Letter" > > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:41 PM > > To: > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > > > Terrible solution. > > > Nothing bugs me more than being a member of a bunch of pointless steam > > > groups. > > > (Well, automagically being joined to random steam groups for no reaosn > > > bugs me a lot too.) > > > > > > I don't want that crap cluttering up my friends list. > > > I don't want shitty updates about "your steam group has an event in 5 > > > minutes!" popping up all the time. > > > > > > I shouldn't have to put up with that crap to maintain a list of servers I > > > like. > > > This is what server favorites was for. > > > > > > Would love to see the following: > > > > > > - An extra button
Re: [hlds] Server Key
Uh, search key doesn't work for me, and force dedicated server requires that I can actually connect to the server. I currently can not start a lobby and join the lobby to my server. I currently can not join my server directly from the steam group server list. I have to have someone outside of my lan join the server from the steam group list. Then and only then am I able to join the server (by joining their lobby explicitly or implicitly through the steam group server list). Joining the server normally results in a "session no longer valid" error when it attempts to connect. Using a search key results in absolutely nothing - the server is never found, and I never attempt to connect. And why would I set a default search key or force dedicated servers list? My server is public and I would only want to use it if it's free - otherwise I'm content joining whatever server I'm matched with (when I'm lobby leader). I can bind shortcuts. I can set launch options. I can get on my server which isn't functioning as it should. But I should have the direct option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as the option of being matched to one. It's not rocket science. I shouldn't have to jump through ANY hoops to: Open the game, get directly (no lobby screen) to my server or a favorite server, if available. Open the game, make a lobby, tell it to use my server or a favorite server, if available. Open the game, make a lobby, tell it to match me to an available server. > From: mu...@anbservers.net > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:54:12 -0500 > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > Add +sv_search_key to launch options > > -Original Message- > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Johan Andersson > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:04 PM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > bind F8 "mm_dedicated_force_servers IPADRESS" > > Press F8 before starting the search for a server. > > Couldn't be any easier tbh. > > -------------- > From: "Blood Letter" > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:41 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > Terrible solution. > > Nothing bugs me more than being a member of a bunch of pointless steam > > groups. > > (Well, automagically being joined to random steam groups for no reaosn > > bugs me a lot too.) > > > > I don't want that crap cluttering up my friends list. > > I don't want shitty updates about "your steam group has an event in 5 > > minutes!" popping up all the time. > > > > I shouldn't have to put up with that crap to maintain a list of servers I > > like. > > This is what server favorites was for. > > > > Would love to see the following: > > > > - An extra button on the UI - Favorite Servers > > - A "Favorite Servers" page which lists servers you have tagged as > > favorite, their ping, map, player count, game mode, and lobby status. > > - Ability to select a server from the list and remove it from your > > favorites or connect to it (if lobby restrictions and player count allow). > > - A UI button to "add server to favorites". Show it on the server info > > popup in game. > > > > I'm not even asking for a full server browser - just a favorite's list. > > > > > > > >> From: matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com > >> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:32:03 -0600 > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > >> > >> Make a steam group called "Joebob's L4D Servers" and invite everyone. > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:25 PM, shoskins73 wrote: > >> > I'm assuming that only works if I'm the Lobby Leader? What happens if > >> > I'm > >> > in someone elses Lobby and they start the game, will it take me to my > >> > server > >> > while everyone else goes to another server? > >> > > >> > Long story short, I had a server for the first 2 months L4D was out and > >> > stopped using it as it was such a PITA to get a Lobby connected to it > >> > (at > >> > that time there was no sv_search_key function at all. This whole setup > > >> > for > >> > using specific servers is crap, especially when not everyone on your > >> > friends > >> > list is in any one particular
Re: [hlds] Server Key
Add +sv_search_key to launch options -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Johan Andersson Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:04 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key bind F8 "mm_dedicated_force_servers IPADRESS" Press F8 before starting the search for a server. Couldn't be any easier tbh. -- From: "Blood Letter" Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:41 PM To: Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > Terrible solution. > Nothing bugs me more than being a member of a bunch of pointless steam > groups. > (Well, automagically being joined to random steam groups for no reaosn > bugs me a lot too.) > > I don't want that crap cluttering up my friends list. > I don't want shitty updates about "your steam group has an event in 5 > minutes!" popping up all the time. > > I shouldn't have to put up with that crap to maintain a list of servers I > like. > This is what server favorites was for. > > Would love to see the following: > > - An extra button on the UI - Favorite Servers > - A "Favorite Servers" page which lists servers you have tagged as > favorite, their ping, map, player count, game mode, and lobby status. > - Ability to select a server from the list and remove it from your > favorites or connect to it (if lobby restrictions and player count allow). > - A UI button to "add server to favorites". Show it on the server info > popup in game. > > I'm not even asking for a full server browser - just a favorite's list. > > > >> From: matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com >> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:32:03 -0600 >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key >> >> Make a steam group called "Joebob's L4D Servers" and invite everyone. >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:25 PM, shoskins73 wrote: >> > I'm assuming that only works if I'm the Lobby Leader? What happens if >> > I'm >> > in someone elses Lobby and they start the game, will it take me to my >> > server >> > while everyone else goes to another server? >> > >> > Long story short, I had a server for the first 2 months L4D was out and >> > stopped using it as it was such a PITA to get a Lobby connected to it >> > (at >> > that time there was no sv_search_key function at all. This whole setup >> > for >> > using specific servers is crap, especially when not everyone on your >> > friends >> > list is in any one particular Steam Group. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jake Skenna >> > wrote: >> > >> >> I'd put the command in an autoexec.cfg so you can get your own server >> >> every >> >> time without having to enter it once you get in game. >> >> >> >> >> > ___ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Server Key
bind F8 "mm_dedicated_force_servers IPADRESS" Press F8 before starting the search for a server. Couldn't be any easier tbh. -- From: "Blood Letter" Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:41 PM To: Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > Terrible solution. > Nothing bugs me more than being a member of a bunch of pointless steam > groups. > (Well, automagically being joined to random steam groups for no reaosn > bugs me a lot too.) > > I don't want that crap cluttering up my friends list. > I don't want shitty updates about "your steam group has an event in 5 > minutes!" popping up all the time. > > I shouldn't have to put up with that crap to maintain a list of servers I > like. > This is what server favorites was for. > > Would love to see the following: > > - An extra button on the UI - Favorite Servers > - A "Favorite Servers" page which lists servers you have tagged as > favorite, their ping, map, player count, game mode, and lobby status. > - Ability to select a server from the list and remove it from your > favorites or connect to it (if lobby restrictions and player count allow). > - A UI button to "add server to favorites". Show it on the server info > popup in game. > > I'm not even asking for a full server browser - just a favorite's list. > > > >> From: matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com >> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:32:03 -0600 >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key >> >> Make a steam group called "Joebob's L4D Servers" and invite everyone. >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:25 PM, shoskins73 wrote: >> > I'm assuming that only works if I'm the Lobby Leader? What happens if >> > I'm >> > in someone elses Lobby and they start the game, will it take me to my >> > server >> > while everyone else goes to another server? >> > >> > Long story short, I had a server for the first 2 months L4D was out and >> > stopped using it as it was such a PITA to get a Lobby connected to it >> > (at >> > that time there was no sv_search_key function at all. This whole setup >> > for >> > using specific servers is crap, especially when not everyone on your >> > friends >> > list is in any one particular Steam Group. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jake Skenna >> > wrote: >> > >> >> I'd put the command in an autoexec.cfg so you can get your own server >> >> every >> >> time without having to enter it once you get in game. >> >> >> >> >> > ___ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Server Key
Look. We understand your frustration; we're frustrated too. In fact, we've been dealing with these issues before a zombie clown scared you into your first pant-load. The suggestions you've been given are the only options we have right now, so it would be nice if you'd be appreciative. We don't work for Valve nor is this list a "hotline" to Alfred's desk. So please carefully re-read the offered solution and give it a try. It works for us. --Kerry On Nov 20, 2009, at 4:41 PM, Blood Letter wrote: > > Terrible solution. > Nothing bugs me more than being a member of a bunch of pointless > steam groups. > (Well, automagically being joined to random steam groups for no > reaosn bugs me a lot too.) > > I don't want that crap cluttering up my friends list. > I don't want shitty updates about "your steam group has an event in > 5 minutes!" popping up all the time. > > I shouldn't have to put up with that crap to maintain a list of > servers I like. > This is what server favorites was for. > > Would love to see the following: > > - An extra button on the UI - Favorite Servers > - A "Favorite Servers" page which lists servers you have tagged as > favorite, their ping, map, player count, game mode, and lobby status. > - Ability to select a server from the list and remove it from your > favorites or connect to it (if lobby restrictions and player count > allow). > - A UI button to "add server to favorites". Show it on the server > info popup in game. > > I'm not even asking for a full server browser - just a favorite's > list. > > > >> From: matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com >> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:32:03 -0600 >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key >> >> Make a steam group called "Joebob's L4D Servers" and invite everyone. >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:25 PM, shoskins73 >> wrote: >>> I'm assuming that only works if I'm the Lobby Leader? What >>> happens if I'm >>> in someone elses Lobby and they start the game, will it take me to >>> my server >>> while everyone else goes to another server? >>> >>> Long story short, I had a server for the first 2 months L4D was >>> out and >>> stopped using it as it was such a PITA to get a Lobby connected to >>> it (at >>> that time there was no sv_search_key function at all. This whole >>> setup for >>> using specific servers is crap, especially when not everyone on >>> your friends >>> list is in any one particular Steam Group. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jake Skenna >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'd put the command in an autoexec.cfg so you can get your own >>>> server every >>>> time without having to enter it once you get in game. >>>> >>>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Terrible solution. Nothing bugs me more than being a member of a bunch of pointless steam groups. (Well, automagically being joined to random steam groups for no reaosn bugs me a lot too.) I don't want that crap cluttering up my friends list. I don't want shitty updates about "your steam group has an event in 5 minutes!" popping up all the time. I shouldn't have to put up with that crap to maintain a list of servers I like. This is what server favorites was for. Would love to see the following: - An extra button on the UI - Favorite Servers - A "Favorite Servers" page which lists servers you have tagged as favorite, their ping, map, player count, game mode, and lobby status. - Ability to select a server from the list and remove it from your favorites or connect to it (if lobby restrictions and player count allow). - A UI button to "add server to favorites". Show it on the server info popup in game. I'm not even asking for a full server browser - just a favorite's list. > From: matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:32:03 -0600 > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > Make a steam group called "Joebob's L4D Servers" and invite everyone. > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:25 PM, shoskins73 wrote: > > I'm assuming that only works if I'm the Lobby Leader? What happens if I'm > > in someone elses Lobby and they start the game, will it take me to my server > > while everyone else goes to another server? > > > > Long story short, I had a server for the first 2 months L4D was out and > > stopped using it as it was such a PITA to get a Lobby connected to it (at > > that time there was no sv_search_key function at all. This whole setup for > > using specific servers is crap, especially when not everyone on your friends > > list is in any one particular Steam Group. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jake Skenna wrote: > > > >> I'd put the command in an autoexec.cfg so you can get your own server every > >> time without having to enter it once you get in game. > >> > >> > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Server Key
Make a steam group called "Joebob's L4D Servers" and invite everyone. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:25 PM, shoskins73 wrote: > I'm assuming that only works if I'm the Lobby Leader? What happens if I'm > in someone elses Lobby and they start the game, will it take me to my server > while everyone else goes to another server? > > Long story short, I had a server for the first 2 months L4D was out and > stopped using it as it was such a PITA to get a Lobby connected to it (at > that time there was no sv_search_key function at all. This whole setup for > using specific servers is crap, especially when not everyone on your friends > list is in any one particular Steam Group. > > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jake Skenna wrote: > >> I'd put the command in an autoexec.cfg so you can get your own server every >> time without having to enter it once you get in game. >> >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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I'm assuming that only works if I'm the Lobby Leader? What happens if I'm in someone elses Lobby and they start the game, will it take me to my server while everyone else goes to another server? Long story short, I had a server for the first 2 months L4D was out and stopped using it as it was such a PITA to get a Lobby connected to it (at that time there was no sv_search_key function at all. This whole setup for using specific servers is crap, especially when not everyone on your friends list is in any one particular Steam Group. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jake Skenna wrote: > I'd put the command in an autoexec.cfg so you can get your own server every > time without having to enter it once you get in game. > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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I'd put the command in an autoexec.cfg so you can get your own server every time without having to enter it once you get in game. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 4:02 PM, msleeper wrote: > Did you not read the first sentence? Set the search key/force_servers > BEFORE creating a lobby. > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 16:00 -0500, Aaron A. Maricic wrote: > > How can you use mm_dedicated_force_servers if you can't get to the > > console from a lobby? Does it work if you enter that before you get into > > a lobby? I've generally always used that as lobby leader to take my > > friends and me into our own server. > > > > Thanks. > > > > msleeper wrote: > > > You can set your search key before joining a lobby. You can also use > the > > > "mm_dedicated_force_servers" to manually specify your IPs to search > for. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 12:51 -0800, shoskins73 wrote: > > > > > >> So I'm contemplating ordering a server for L4D2 as it's getting really > > >> frustrating constantly being thrown into servers where all 4 (or 8) of > us > > >> have 200+ ping. Call Vote, Return to Lobby, Search for Best Dedicated > Server > > >> again only to be put back on the same server, or another server that's > just > > >> as bad. > > >> > > >> But the console seems to be disabled in the Lobby screen and they > still have > > >> not implemented any UI in the Lobby to select the server you want to > goto. > > >> > > >> So how exactly is sv_search_key supposed to work now when you can't > open the > > >> console in the Lobby? > > >> > > >> Can someone please explain to me how this is supposed to work now > before I > > >> waste any money on a server I can't use? > > >> > > >> thanks, > > >> Sean > > >> ___ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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You can also do a direct IP connect thru the console while on the game's main page and then once you get to the server, you can vote to make changes to settings. You can also setup a steam group and then link to it in your server config. Your server will then show up in the game menu for anyone in the group. sv_steamgroup 123456 Or you can do what msleeper suggested! :D Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: msleeper Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:56:00 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key You can set your search key before joining a lobby. You can also use the "mm_dedicated_force_servers" to manually specify your IPs to search for. On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 12:51 -0800, shoskins73 wrote: > So I'm contemplating ordering a server for L4D2 as it's getting really > frustrating constantly being thrown into servers where all 4 (or 8) of us > have 200+ ping. Call Vote, Return to Lobby, Search for Best Dedicated Server > again only to be put back on the same server, or another server that's just > as bad. > > But the console seems to be disabled in the Lobby screen and they still have > not implemented any UI in the Lobby to select the server you want to goto. > > So how exactly is sv_search_key supposed to work now when you can't open the > console in the Lobby? > > Can someone please explain to me how this is supposed to work now before I > waste any money on a server I can't use? > > thanks, > Sean > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Did you not read the first sentence? Set the search key/force_servers BEFORE creating a lobby. On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 16:00 -0500, Aaron A. Maricic wrote: > How can you use mm_dedicated_force_servers if you can't get to the > console from a lobby? Does it work if you enter that before you get into > a lobby? I've generally always used that as lobby leader to take my > friends and me into our own server. > > Thanks. > > msleeper wrote: > > You can set your search key before joining a lobby. You can also use the > > "mm_dedicated_force_servers" to manually specify your IPs to search for. > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 12:51 -0800, shoskins73 wrote: > > > >> So I'm contemplating ordering a server for L4D2 as it's getting really > >> frustrating constantly being thrown into servers where all 4 (or 8) of us > >> have 200+ ping. Call Vote, Return to Lobby, Search for Best Dedicated > >> Server > >> again only to be put back on the same server, or another server that's just > >> as bad. > >> > >> But the console seems to be disabled in the Lobby screen and they still > >> have > >> not implemented any UI in the Lobby to select the server you want to goto. > >> > >> So how exactly is sv_search_key supposed to work now when you can't open > >> the > >> console in the Lobby? > >> > >> Can someone please explain to me how this is supposed to work now before I > >> waste any money on a server I can't use? > >> > >> thanks, > >> Sean > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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How can you use mm_dedicated_force_servers if you can't get to the console from a lobby? Does it work if you enter that before you get into a lobby? I've generally always used that as lobby leader to take my friends and me into our own server. Thanks. msleeper wrote: > You can set your search key before joining a lobby. You can also use the > "mm_dedicated_force_servers" to manually specify your IPs to search for. > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 12:51 -0800, shoskins73 wrote: > >> So I'm contemplating ordering a server for L4D2 as it's getting really >> frustrating constantly being thrown into servers where all 4 (or 8) of us >> have 200+ ping. Call Vote, Return to Lobby, Search for Best Dedicated Server >> again only to be put back on the same server, or another server that's just >> as bad. >> >> But the console seems to be disabled in the Lobby screen and they still have >> not implemented any UI in the Lobby to select the server you want to goto. >> >> So how exactly is sv_search_key supposed to work now when you can't open the >> console in the Lobby? >> >> Can someone please explain to me how this is supposed to work now before I >> waste any money on a server I can't use? >> >> thanks, >> Sean >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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I know in L4D1, connecting it to a steam group worked well. I truthfully got pissed off at the L4D server system after I spent a few hours trying to get 3 LAN servers up. With a fresh install and a basic boot line with a next-to-empty server.cfg the servers would crash on a map change. (Both manual and automatic changes). Also: is there any easy way to change a server from campaign to vs? On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:51 PM, shoskins73 wrote: > So I'm contemplating ordering a server for L4D2 as it's getting really > frustrating constantly being thrown into servers where all 4 (or 8) of us > have 200+ ping. Call Vote, Return to Lobby, Search for Best Dedicated Server > again only to be put back on the same server, or another server that's just > as bad. > > But the console seems to be disabled in the Lobby screen and they still have > not implemented any UI in the Lobby to select the server you want to goto. > > So how exactly is sv_search_key supposed to work now when you can't open the > console in the Lobby? > > Can someone please explain to me how this is supposed to work now before I > waste any money on a server I can't use? > > thanks, > Sean > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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You can set your search key before joining a lobby. You can also use the "mm_dedicated_force_servers" to manually specify your IPs to search for. On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 12:51 -0800, shoskins73 wrote: > So I'm contemplating ordering a server for L4D2 as it's getting really > frustrating constantly being thrown into servers where all 4 (or 8) of us > have 200+ ping. Call Vote, Return to Lobby, Search for Best Dedicated Server > again only to be put back on the same server, or another server that's just > as bad. > > But the console seems to be disabled in the Lobby screen and they still have > not implemented any UI in the Lobby to select the server you want to goto. > > So how exactly is sv_search_key supposed to work now when you can't open the > console in the Lobby? > > Can someone please explain to me how this is supposed to work now before I > waste any money on a server I can't use? > > thanks, > Sean > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
