RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-20 Thread Stuart Stegall
Actually the Linux software is mostly for scanning shares.  File/print
sharing is probably the #1 usage of Linux in business.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyler Cook
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 9:22 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

mcafee make a virus scanner for the mac as well - isn't worth buying since
Macs dont get viruses...

Mcafee generally make good software - so I would check it out.

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 00:55:36, Dan Sorenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 05:07 PM 2/18/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> >No mods and no virus I mean this would Happen hours after a format
> >and a fresh install of  windows or linux
> >
> >Do you know a good virus scanner For Linux??
>
>McAffee make an anti-virus product for Linux, however I can't
> say if it's good or not.
>
>Ever tried setting the runlevel to single-user and seeing if it
> repeats on the Linux box?  Or fresh install on LAN-only to ensure
> there's no outside vector for infection?
>
>It sounds like a virus, but at this point I'd start wondering
> about hardware too.  I'd make a copy of those maps onto a different
> partition or different device, do the isolation thing, and then diff
> them -- it could be something as simple as a flakey bit of RAM causing
> the checksum generation to go wonky.
>
>- Dan
>
> * Dan Sorenson  DoD #1066  A.H.M.C. #35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *
> * Vikings?  There ain't no vikings here.  Just us honest farmers.   *
> * The town was burning, the villagers were dead.  They didn't need  *
> * those sheep anyway.  That's our story and we're sticking to it.   *
>
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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-19 Thread Tyler Cook
mcafee make a virus scanner for the mac as well - isn't worth buying
since Macs dont get viruses...

Mcafee generally make good software - so I would check it out.

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 00:55:36, Dan Sorenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 05:07 PM 2/18/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> >No mods and no virus I mean this would Happen hours after a format and a
> >fresh install of  windows or linux
> >
> >Do you know a good virus scanner For Linux??
>
>McAffee make an anti-virus product for Linux, however I can't
> say if it's good or not.
>
>Ever tried setting the runlevel to single-user and seeing if
> it repeats on the Linux box?  Or fresh install on LAN-only to ensure
> there's no outside vector for infection?
>
>It sounds like a virus, but at this point I'd start wondering
> about hardware too.  I'd make a copy of those maps onto a different
> partition or different device, do the isolation thing, and then diff
> them -- it could be something as simple as a flakey bit of RAM causing
> the checksum generation to go wonky.
>
>- Dan
>
> * Dan Sorenson  DoD #1066  A.H.M.C. #35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *
> * Vikings?  There ain't no vikings here.  Just us honest farmers.   *
> * The town was burning, the villagers were dead.  They didn't need  *
> * those sheep anyway.  That's our story and we're sticking to it.   *
>
>
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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-18 Thread Dan Sorenson
At 05:07 PM 2/18/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>No mods and no virus I mean this would Happen hours after a format and a
>fresh install of  windows or linux
>
>Do you know a good virus scanner For Linux??

McAffee make an anti-virus product for Linux, however I can't
say if it's good or not.

Ever tried setting the runlevel to single-user and seeing if
it repeats on the Linux box?  Or fresh install on LAN-only to ensure
there's no outside vector for infection?

It sounds like a virus, but at this point I'd start wondering
about hardware too.  I'd make a copy of those maps onto a different
partition or different device, do the isolation thing, and then diff
them -- it could be something as simple as a flakey bit of RAM causing
the checksum generation to go wonky.

- Dan

* Dan Sorenson  DoD #1066  A.H.M.C. #35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *
* Vikings?  There ain't no vikings here.  Just us honest farmers.   *
* The town was burning, the villagers were dead.  They didn't need  *
* those sheep anyway.  That's our story and we're sticking to it.   *


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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-18 Thread Munra -hlds

It will happen when the server is not even running
- Original MessagIe -
From: "Richard Welsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:44 AM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I attended an medium sized LAN party, 32 people, a few weeks ago and we
had
this same problem until we turned off VAC for the LAN.  After that we
didn't
have and problems with the Map Differs from server.  When we did have the
map problem it took about 5 to 10 retrys before the maps we the "Same".
Bug??  Could be.


---Original Message---

From: Dan Herrstrom
Date: 02/19/06 00:18:44
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

It seems a little strange that if it were either a virus or hacker that
only
the map files for the CS server would be changed. I've never heard of a
virus that targeted Counter-Strike installs. Seems to me that it's
probably
a hardware problem. What happens if you chkdsk /F the drive?

--DH

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Stegall
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:20 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

My only guess after everything I have to believe ... Either you are
getting
some type of security problem (and if you get infected before your AV gets
installed or the security exploit hits before you update. Or the other
option is that you have a very very strange bug.

My guess is you are getting a hacker or some other type of security
problem.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:51 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

we do not have a virus



From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:07:29 +1100

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hardware problem it is
then

Or Virus or something thats compromised the box

On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is
> something else wrong And I would like to run custom content with out
> it changing which it
does
> and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
> ERROR.
>
>
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file
> > from the server
> >
> > Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on
> >
> > On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> This is what is Happaning
> >> a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of
> >> fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d  This is the clients map
> >>
> >> This is the md5 of the map on the server
> >> ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da
> >>
> >> See what is going on.  we jsut can't find what is causeing this I
> >> mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine
> >> but
> no
> >> one
> >> else can.
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Munra -hlds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> server"
> >> ERROR.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Not over clocking the CPUs
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: 
> >> > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from
> >> > the
> >> server"
> >> > ERROR.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted,
> >> >> then
the
> >> >> routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote:
> >>

RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-18 Thread Stuart Stegall
Its possible.  But they (irv and Munra) were having the same problem with
hlds srcds on windows and linux.  It looks likely that someone is targeting
them or there is some element of this that we are missing ...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Welsh
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 11:45 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I attended an medium sized
LAN party, 32 people, a few weeks ago and we had this same problem until we
turned off VAC for the LAN.  After that we didn't have and problems with the
Map Differs from server.  When we did have the map problem it took about 5
to 10 retrys before the maps we the "Same".
Bug??  Could be.


---Original Message---

From: Dan Herrstrom
Date: 02/19/06 00:18:44
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

It seems a little strange that if it were either a virus or hacker that only
the map files for the CS server would be changed. I've never heard of a
virus that targeted Counter-Strike installs. Seems to me that it's probably
a hardware problem. What happens if you chkdsk /F the drive?

--DH

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Stegall
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:20 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

My only guess after everything I have to believe ... Either you are getting
some type of security problem (and if you get infected before your AV gets
installed or the security exploit hits before you update. Or the other
option is that you have a very very strange bug.

My guess is you are getting a hacker or some other type of security problem.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:51 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

we do not have a virus


>From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:07:29 +1100
>
>--
>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hardware problem it is
>then
>
>Or Virus or something thats compromised the box
>
>On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is
> > something else wrong And I would like to run custom content with out
> > it changing which it
>does
> > and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing
> >
> > ----- Original Message -
> > From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server"
> > ERROR.
> >
> >
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file
> > > from the server
> > >
> > > Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on
> > >
> > > On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> This is what is Happaning
> > >> a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of
> > >> fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d  This is the clients map
> > >>
> > >> This is the md5 of the map on the server
> > >> ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da
> > >>
> > >> See what is going on.  we jsut can't find what is causeing this I
> > >> mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine
> > >> but
> > no
> > >> one
> > >> else can.
> > >>
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >> From: "Munra -hlds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: 
> > >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> > server"
> > >> ERROR.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Not over clocking the CPUs
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > - Original Message -
> > >> > From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> > To: 
> > >> > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM
>

RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-18 Thread Richard Welsh
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
I attended an medium sized LAN party, 32 people, a few weeks ago and we had
this same problem until we turned off VAC for the LAN.  After that we didn't
have and problems with the Map Differs from server.  When we did have the
map problem it took about 5 to 10 retrys before the maps we the "Same".
Bug??  Could be.


---Original Message---

From: Dan Herrstrom
Date: 02/19/06 00:18:44
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

It seems a little strange that if it were either a virus or hacker that only
the map files for the CS server would be changed. I've never heard of a
virus that targeted Counter-Strike installs. Seems to me that it's probably
a hardware problem. What happens if you chkdsk /F the drive?

--DH

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Stegall
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:20 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

My only guess after everything I have to believe ... Either you are getting
some type of security problem (and if you get infected before your AV gets
installed or the security exploit hits before you update. Or the other
option is that you have a very very strange bug.

My guess is you are getting a hacker or some other type of security problem.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:51 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

we do not have a virus


>From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:07:29 +1100
>
>--
>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hardware problem it is
>then
>
>Or Virus or something thats compromised the box
>
>On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is
> > something else wrong And I would like to run custom content with out
> > it changing which it
>does
> > and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server"
> > ERROR.
> >
> >
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file
> > > from the server
> > >
> > > Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on
> > >
> > > On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> This is what is Happaning
> > >> a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of
> > >> fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d  This is the clients map
> > >>
> > >> This is the md5 of the map on the server
> > >> ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da
> > >>
> > >> See what is going on.  we jsut can't find what is causeing this I
> > >> mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine
> > >> but
> > no
> > >> one
> > >> else can.
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Munra -hlds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: 
> > >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> > server"
> > >> ERROR.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Not over clocking the CPUs
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > - Original Message -
> > >> > From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> > To: 
> > >> > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM
> > >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from
> > >> > the
> > >> server"
> > >> > ERROR.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted,
> > >> >> then
>the
> > >> >> routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU?
> > >> >>
> > >

RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-18 Thread Dan Herrstrom
It seems a little strange that if it were either a virus or hacker that only
the map files for the CS server would be changed. I've never heard of a
virus that targeted Counter-Strike installs. Seems to me that it's probably
a hardware problem. What happens if you chkdsk /F the drive?

--DH

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Stegall
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:20 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

My only guess after everything I have to believe ... Either you are getting
some type of security problem (and if you get infected before your AV gets
installed or the security exploit hits before you update. Or the other
option is that you have a very very strange bug.

My guess is you are getting a hacker or some other type of security problem.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:51 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

we do not have a virus


>From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:07:29 +1100
>
>--
>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hardware problem it is
>then
>
>Or Virus or something thats compromised the box
>
>On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is
> > something else wrong And I would like to run custom content with out
> > it changing which it
>does
> > and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server"
> > ERROR.
> >
> >
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file
> > > from the server
> > >
> > > Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on
> > >
> > > On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> This is what is Happaning
> > >> a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of
> > >> fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d  This is the clients map
> > >>
> > >> This is the md5 of the map on the server
> > >> ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da
> > >>
> > >> See what is going on.  we jsut can't find what is causeing this I
> > >> mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine
> > >> but
> > no
> > >> one
> > >> else can.
> > >>
> > >> - Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Munra -hlds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: 
> > >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> > server"
> > >> ERROR.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Not over clocking the CPUs
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > - Original Message -
> > >> > From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> > To: 
> > >> > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM
> > >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from
> > >> > the
> > >> server"
> > >> > ERROR.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted,
> > >> >> then
>the
> > >> >> routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> Irv,
> > >> >>>The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool
> > >> >>> with - verify_all and save the log, then grep "Downloading"
> > >> >>> and post the list of downloaded files here.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> The question this will answer is "are only the BSPs changing
> > >&g

Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-18 Thread DT

irv carlson wrote:


we do not have a virus



From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:07:29 +1100

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Hardware problem it is then

Or Virus or something thats compromised the box

On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is
something
> else
> wrong
> And I would like to run custom content with out it changing which it
does
> and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
> ERROR.
>
>
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > Delete the file from the server
> >
> > Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on
> >
> > On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> This is what is Happaning
> >> a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of
> >> fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d  This is the clients map
> >>
> >> This is the md5 of the map on the server
> >> ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da
> >>
> >> See what is going on.  we jsut can't find what is causeing this
> >> I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2
fine but
> no
> >> one
> >> else can.
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Munra -hlds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> server"
> >> ERROR.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Not over clocking the CPUs
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: 
> >> > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >> server"
> >> > ERROR.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then
the
> >> >> routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Irv,
> >> >>>The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool
with -
> >> >>> verify_all
> >> >>> and save the log, then grep "Downloading" and post the list of
> >> >>> downloaded
> >> >>> files here.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The question this will answer is "are only the BSPs changing or
is
> >> >>> other
> >> >>> game content also changing"
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Scenario 1:
> >> >>> Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of
> >> >>> never being
> >> >>> written.
> >> >>> (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting
> >> >>> corrupted as
> >> >>> well)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Possible Causes:
> >> >>> 1. disk problem
> >> >>> 2. cable problem
> >> >>> 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables
> >> >>> 4. bad cooling causing overheating
> >> >>> 5. bad disk controller electronics
> >> >>> 6. some other motherboard problem
> >> >>> 7. malicious activity
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Scenario 2:
> >> >>> only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Possible Causes
> >> >>> 1. malicious activity
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - Original Message -
> >> >>> From: "irv carlson"
> >> >>> To: 
> >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
> >> >>> Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs fr

RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-18 Thread Stuart Stegall
My only guess after everything I have to believe ... Either you are getting
some type of security problem (and if you get infected before your AV gets
installed or the security exploit hits before you update. Or the other
option is that you have a very very strange bug.

My guess is you are getting a hacker or some other type of security problem.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:51 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

we do not have a virus


>From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:07:29 +1100
>
>--
>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hardware problem it is
>then
>
>Or Virus or something thats compromised the box
>
>On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is
> > something else wrong And I would like to run custom content with out
> > it changing which it
>does
> > and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server"
> > ERROR.
> >
> >
> > > --
> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file
> > > from the server
> > >
> > > Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on
> > >
> > > On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> This is what is Happaning
> > >> a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of
> > >> fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d  This is the clients map
> > >>
> > >> This is the md5 of the map on the server
> > >> ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da
> > >>
> > >> See what is going on.  we jsut can't find what is causeing this I
> > >> mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine
> > >> but
> > no
> > >> one
> > >> else can.
> > >>
> > >> - Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Munra -hlds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: 
> > >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> > server"
> > >> ERROR.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Not over clocking the CPUs
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > - Original Message -
> > >> > From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> > To: 
> > >> > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM
> > >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from
> > >> > the
> > >> server"
> > >> > ERROR.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted,
> > >> >> then
>the
> > >> >> routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> Irv,
> > >> >>>The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool
> > >> >>> with - verify_all and save the log, then grep "Downloading"
> > >> >>> and post the list of downloaded files here.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> The question this will answer is "are only the BSPs changing
> > >> >>> or
>is
> > >> >>> other
> > >> >>> game content also changing"
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Scenario 1:
> > >> >>> Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite
> > >> >>> of never being written.
> > >> >>> (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting
> > >> >>> corrupted as
> > >> >

Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-18 Thread irv carlson

we do not have a virus



From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:07:29 +1100

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Hardware problem it is then

Or Virus or something thats compromised the box

On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is something
> else
> wrong
> And I would like to run custom content with out it changing which it
does
> and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
> ERROR.
>
>
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > Delete the file from the server
> >
> > Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on
> >
> > On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> This is what is Happaning
> >> a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of
> >> fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d  This is the clients map
> >>
> >> This is the md5 of the map on the server
> >> ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da
> >>
> >> See what is going on.  we jsut can't find what is causeing this
> >> I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but
> no
> >> one
> >> else can.
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Munra -hlds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> server"
> >> ERROR.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Not over clocking the CPUs
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: 
> >> > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >> server"
> >> > ERROR.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then
the
> >> >> routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Irv,
> >> >>>The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with -
> >> >>> verify_all
> >> >>> and save the log, then grep "Downloading" and post the list of
> >> >>> downloaded
> >> >>> files here.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The question this will answer is "are only the BSPs changing or
is
> >> >>> other
> >> >>> game content also changing"
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Scenario 1:
> >> >>> Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of
> >> >>> never being
> >> >>> written.
> >> >>> (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting
> >> >>> corrupted as
> >> >>> well)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Possible Causes:
> >> >>> 1. disk problem
> >> >>> 2. cable problem
> >> >>> 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables
> >> >>> 4. bad cooling causing overheating
> >> >>> 5. bad disk controller electronics
> >> >>> 6. some other motherboard problem
> >> >>> 7. malicious activity
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Scenario 2:
> >> >>> only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Possible Causes
> >> >>> 1. malicious activity
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - Original Message -
> >> >>> From: "irv carlson"
> >> >>> To: 
> >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
> >> >>> Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs fr

Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-18 Thread irv carlson

we dont overclock anything no need to the 1U has enough power



From: "Munra -hlds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 01:26:56 -0500

This is what is Happaning
a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of
fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d  This is the clients map

This is the md5 of the map on the server
ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da

See what is going on.  we jsut can't find what is causeing this
I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but no
one
else can.

- Original Message -
From: "Munra -hlds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



Not over clocking the CPUs


- Original Message -
From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the
routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU?


On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote:


Irv,
   The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with -
verify_all
and save the log, then grep "Downloading" and post the list of
downloaded
files here.

The question this will answer is "are only the BSPs changing or is
other
game content also changing"

Scenario 1:
Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of
never being
written.
(implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting
corrupted as
well)

Possible Causes:
1. disk problem
2. cable problem
3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables
4. bad cooling causing overheating
5. bad disk controller electronics
6. some other motherboard problem
7. malicious activity

Scenario 2:
only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps)

Possible Causes
1. malicious activity



- Original Message -
From: "irv carlson"
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.


The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map
we run in
no recognizable pattern.


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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-18 Thread irv carlson

i will do that but we know the is it called the checksum or md5 hash is what
is changing just on the server and only the mapfiles but here is the kicker
 we played last night and we have ventrillo 16 people were in the server
and the map changed half downloaded the map and the others had it  let all
16 people in. then 5 min into  the map . then two people tryed to join and
it told them the map differed then we checked the md5 code and it was
changed so we had to go to a differant map but i will have this done and
post it for you



From: "Kevin Ottalini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:59:38 -0800

Irv,
   The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with
-verify_all
and save the log, then grep "Downloading" and post the list of downloaded
files here.

The question this will answer is "are only the BSPs changing or is other
game content also changing"

Scenario 1:
Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being
written.
(implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as
well)

Possible Causes:
1. disk problem
2. cable problem
3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables
4. bad cooling causing overheating
5. bad disk controller electronics
6. some other motherboard problem
7. malicious activity

Scenario 2:
only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps)

Possible Causes
1. malicious activity



- Original Message -
From: "irv carlson"
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.


The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run
in
no recognizable pattern.


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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-18 Thread Munra -hlds

No mods and no virus I mean this would Happen hours after a format and a
fresh install of  windows or linux

Do you know a good virus scanner For Linux??
- Original Message -
From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



If nothing else is changing on the box, then it is a virus or something of
that nature.  Just as an off chance ... Are you running any mods?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 2:07 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hardware problem it is
then

Or Virus or something thats compromised the box

On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is
something else wrong And I would like to run custom content with out
it changing which it does and de_dust2 is not the only stock map
changing

- Original Message -
From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.


> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file
> from the server
>
> Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on
>
> On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> This is what is Happaning
>> a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of
>> fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d  This is the clients map
>>
>> This is the md5 of the map on the server
>> ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da
>>
>> See what is going on.  we jsut can't find what is causeing this I
>> mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but
no
>> one
>> else can.
>>
>> - Original Message -----
>> From: "Munra -hlds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
>> ERROR.
>>
>>
>> > Not over clocking the CPUs
>> >
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>> server"
>> > ERROR.
>> >
>> >
>> >> And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then
>> >> the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Irv,
>> >>>The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with
>> >>> - verify_all and save the log, then grep "Downloading" and post
>> >>> the list of downloaded files here.
>> >>>
>> >>> The question this will answer is "are only the BSPs changing or
>> >>> is other game content also changing"
>> >>>
>> >>> Scenario 1:
>> >>> Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of
>> >>> never being written.
>> >>> (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting
>> >>> corrupted as
>> >>> well)
>> >>>
>> >>> Possible Causes:
>> >>> 1. disk problem
>> >>> 2. cable problem
>> >>> 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad
>> >>> cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics
>> >>> 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity
>> >>>
>> >>> Scenario 2:
>> >>> only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps)
>> >>>
>> >>> Possible Causes
>> >>> 1. malicious activity
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> - Original Message -
>> >>> From: "irv carlson"
>> >>> To: 
>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
>> >>> Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>> >>> server" ERROR.
>> >>>
>> >>

RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-18 Thread Stuart Stegall
If nothing else is changing on the box, then it is a virus or something of
that nature.  Just as an off chance ... Are you running any mods?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 2:07 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hardware problem it is then

Or Virus or something thats compromised the box

On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is
> something else wrong And I would like to run custom content with out
> it changing which it does and de_dust2 is not the only stock map
> changing
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
> ERROR.
>
>
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Delete the file
> > from the server
> >
> > Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on
> >
> > On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> This is what is Happaning
> >> a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of
> >> fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d  This is the clients map
> >>
> >> This is the md5 of the map on the server
> >> ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da
> >>
> >> See what is going on.  we jsut can't find what is causeing this I
> >> mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but
> no
> >> one
> >> else can.
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Munra -hlds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> server"
> >> ERROR.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Not over clocking the CPUs
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: 
> >> > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >> server"
> >> > ERROR.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then
> >> >> the routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Irv,
> >> >>>The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with
> >> >>> - verify_all and save the log, then grep "Downloading" and post
> >> >>> the list of downloaded files here.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The question this will answer is "are only the BSPs changing or
> >> >>> is other game content also changing"
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Scenario 1:
> >> >>> Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of
> >> >>> never being written.
> >> >>> (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting
> >> >>> corrupted as
> >> >>> well)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Possible Causes:
> >> >>> 1. disk problem
> >> >>> 2. cable problem
> >> >>> 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables 4. bad
> >> >>> cooling causing overheating 5. bad disk controller electronics
> >> >>> 6. some other motherboard problem 7. malicious activity
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Scenario 2:
> >> >>> only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Possible Causes
> >> >>> 1. malicious activity
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - Original Message -
> >> >>> From: "irv carlson"
> >> >>> To: 
> >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
> >> >>> Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >> >>> server"

Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-18 Thread Whisper
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Hardware problem it is then

Or Virus or something thats compromised the box

On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is something
> else
> wrong
> And I would like to run custom content with out it changing which it does
> and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
> ERROR.
>
>
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > Delete the file from the server
> >
> > Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on
> >
> > On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> This is what is Happaning
> >> a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of
> >> fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d  This is the clients map
> >>
> >> This is the md5 of the map on the server
> >> ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da
> >>
> >> See what is going on.  we jsut can't find what is causeing this
> >> I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but
> no
> >> one
> >> else can.
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Munra -hlds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> server"
> >> ERROR.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Not over clocking the CPUs
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: 
> >> > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >> server"
> >> > ERROR.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the
> >> >> routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Irv,
> >> >>>The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with -
> >> >>> verify_all
> >> >>> and save the log, then grep "Downloading" and post the list of
> >> >>> downloaded
> >> >>> files here.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The question this will answer is "are only the BSPs changing or is
> >> >>> other
> >> >>> game content also changing"
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Scenario 1:
> >> >>> Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of
> >> >>> never being
> >> >>> written.
> >> >>> (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting
> >> >>> corrupted as
> >> >>> well)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Possible Causes:
> >> >>> 1. disk problem
> >> >>> 2. cable problem
> >> >>> 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables
> >> >>> 4. bad cooling causing overheating
> >> >>> 5. bad disk controller electronics
> >> >>> 6. some other motherboard problem
> >> >>> 7. malicious activity
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Scenario 2:
> >> >>> only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Possible Causes
> >> >>> 1. malicious activity
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - Original Message -
> >> >>> From: "irv carlson"
> >> >>> To: 
> >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
> >> >>> Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >> >>> server" ERROR.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
> >> >>> It happens with all stock or at one time or another a

Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-17 Thread Munra -hlds

I know that but When I have to do that every 4 hours There is something else
wrong
And I would like to run custom content with out it changing which it does
and de_dust2 is not the only stock map changing

- Original Message -
From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:43 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



--
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Delete the file from the server

Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on

On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


This is what is Happaning
a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of
fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d  This is the clients map

This is the md5 of the map on the server
ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da

See what is going on.  we jsut can't find what is causeing this
I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but no
one
else can.

- Original Message -
From: "Munra -hlds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.


> Not over clocking the CPUs
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
> ERROR.
>
>
>> And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the
>> routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU?
>>
>>
>> On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote:
>>
>>> Irv,
>>>The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with -
>>> verify_all
>>> and save the log, then grep "Downloading" and post the list of
>>> downloaded
>>> files here.
>>>
>>> The question this will answer is "are only the BSPs changing or is
>>> other
>>> game content also changing"
>>>
>>> Scenario 1:
>>> Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of
>>> never being
>>> written.
>>> (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting
>>> corrupted as
>>> well)
>>>
>>> Possible Causes:
>>> 1. disk problem
>>> 2. cable problem
>>> 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables
>>> 4. bad cooling causing overheating
>>> 5. bad disk controller electronics
>>> 6. some other motherboard problem
>>> 7. malicious activity
>>>
>>> Scenario 2:
>>> only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps)
>>>
>>> Possible Causes
>>> 1. malicious activity
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "irv carlson"
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
>>> Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>> server" ERROR.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
>>> It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map
>>> we run in
>>> no recognizable pattern.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-17 Thread Whisper
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Delete the file from the server

Run the hldsupdatetool.exe with the verify option on

On 2/18/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is what is Happaning
> a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of
> fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d  This is the clients map
>
> This is the md5 of the map on the server
> ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da
>
> See what is going on.  we jsut can't find what is causeing this
> I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but no
> one
> else can.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Munra -hlds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
> ERROR.
>
>
> > Not over clocking the CPUs
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> server"
> > ERROR.
> >
> >
> >> And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the
> >> routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote:
> >>
> >>> Irv,
> >>>The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with -
> >>> verify_all
> >>> and save the log, then grep "Downloading" and post the list of
> >>> downloaded
> >>> files here.
> >>>
> >>> The question this will answer is "are only the BSPs changing or is
> >>> other
> >>> game content also changing"
> >>>
> >>> Scenario 1:
> >>> Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of
> >>> never being
> >>> written.
> >>> (implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting
> >>> corrupted as
> >>> well)
> >>>
> >>> Possible Causes:
> >>> 1. disk problem
> >>> 2. cable problem
> >>> 3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables
> >>> 4. bad cooling causing overheating
> >>> 5. bad disk controller electronics
> >>> 6. some other motherboard problem
> >>> 7. malicious activity
> >>>
> >>> Scenario 2:
> >>> only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps)
> >>>
> >>> Possible Causes
> >>> 1. malicious activity
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "irv carlson"
> >>> To: 
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
> >>> Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >>> server" ERROR.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
> >>> It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map
> >>> we run in
> >>> no recognizable pattern.
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-17 Thread Munra -hlds

This is what is Happaning
a file such as de_dust2.bsp has a md5 number of
fc18094cf822fab9f04567a9b8d4057d  This is the clients map

This is the md5 of the map on the server
ce1eea21c756bbe84e65b3b852c0c1da

See what is going on.  we jsut can't find what is causeing this
I mean I can donwload the server file and then play de_dust2 fine but no one
else can.

- Original Message -
From: "Munra -hlds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



Not over clocking the CPUs


- Original Message -
From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the
routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU?


On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote:


Irv,
   The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with -
verify_all
and save the log, then grep "Downloading" and post the list of
downloaded
files here.

The question this will answer is "are only the BSPs changing or is
other
game content also changing"

Scenario 1:
Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of
never being
written.
(implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting
corrupted as
well)

Possible Causes:
1. disk problem
2. cable problem
3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables
4. bad cooling causing overheating
5. bad disk controller electronics
6. some other motherboard problem
7. malicious activity

Scenario 2:
only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps)

Possible Causes
1. malicious activity



- Original Message -
From: "irv carlson"
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.


The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map
we run in
no recognizable pattern.


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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-16 Thread Munra -hlds

Snice the Windows Box is inactive I am moving this to the Linux list Thanks
for all your help
- Original Message -
From: "Munra -hlds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



Not over clocking the CPUs


- Original Message -
From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the
routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU?


On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote:


Irv,
   The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with -
verify_all
and save the log, then grep "Downloading" and post the list of
downloaded
files here.

The question this will answer is "are only the BSPs changing or is
other
game content also changing"

Scenario 1:
Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of
never being
written.
(implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting
corrupted as
well)

Possible Causes:
1. disk problem
2. cable problem
3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables
4. bad cooling causing overheating
5. bad disk controller electronics
6. some other motherboard problem
7. malicious activity

Scenario 2:
only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps)

Possible Causes
1. malicious activity



- Original Message -
From: "irv carlson"
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.


The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map
we run in
no recognizable pattern.


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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-16 Thread Munra -hlds

Not over clocking the CPUs


- Original Message -
From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the
routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU?


On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote:


Irv,
   The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with -
verify_all
and save the log, then grep "Downloading" and post the list of
downloaded
files here.

The question this will answer is "are only the BSPs changing or is
other
game content also changing"

Scenario 1:
Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of
never being
written.
(implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting
corrupted as
well)

Possible Causes:
1. disk problem
2. cable problem
3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables
4. bad cooling causing overheating
5. bad disk controller electronics
6. some other motherboard problem
7. malicious activity

Scenario 2:
only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps)

Possible Causes
1. malicious activity



- Original Message -
From: "irv carlson"
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.


The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map
we run in
no recognizable pattern.


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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-16 Thread Robert Dodd

And if the files all match, so are not actually corrupted, then the
routine that checks the MD5 values is failing. Overclocked CPU?


On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Kevin Ottalini wrote:


Irv,
   The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with -
verify_all
and save the log, then grep "Downloading" and post the list of
downloaded
files here.

The question this will answer is "are only the BSPs changing or is
other
game content also changing"

Scenario 1:
Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of
never being
written.
(implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting
corrupted as
well)

Possible Causes:
1. disk problem
2. cable problem
3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables
4. bad cooling causing overheating
5. bad disk controller electronics
6. some other motherboard problem
7. malicious activity

Scenario 2:
only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps)

Possible Causes
1. malicious activity



- Original Message -
From: "irv carlson"
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.


The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map
we run in
no recognizable pattern.


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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-16 Thread Kevin Ottalini

Irv,
   The next time this starts to happen, run the updatetool with -verify_all
and save the log, then grep "Downloading" and post the list of downloaded
files here.

The question this will answer is "are only the BSPs changing or is other
game content also changing"

Scenario 1:
Various game content on disk is changing over time in spite of never being
written.
(implies that O/S and other on-disk content is also getting corrupted as
well)

Possible Causes:
1. disk problem
2. cable problem
3. power supply problem or intermittent power cables
4. bad cooling causing overheating
5. bad disk controller electronics
6. some other motherboard problem
7. malicious activity

Scenario 2:
only the map BSPs are changing on disk (including stock maps)

Possible Causes
1. malicious activity



- Original Message -
From: "irv carlson"
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.


The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in
no recognizable pattern.


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RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-16 Thread irv carlson

about 4 or 5 hours



From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:17:19 -0600

Does this problem occur immediately or does it take days or week?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:00 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

Don;t listen to irv is very upset about this problem.  We will run memtest
again.  Also I can't tell if the memory help We installed a control server
tonight "Fresh install"  And When one of us gets to chicago we'll take the
box out and run memtest and prime95 on it.


- Original Message -
From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:20 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.


> Is the "new" ram approved by Tyan? (memtest86 run it now)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:08 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
> ERROR.
>
> i did not build the system appro did and we changed the HD and RAM
>
>
>>From: David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
>>ERROR.
>>Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:38:55 +
>>
>>irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor
>>systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even
>>boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes
>>i did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this
>>up as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd.
>>I know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may
>>find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs
>>aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption
>>that is the only other thing it could be
>>
>>irv carlson wrote:
>>
>>>the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard
>>>and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything
>>>like loading the server
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>>To: 
>>>>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>>>server"
>>>>ERROR.
>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600
>>>>
>>>>Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server?  I hope you have it fully
>>>>patched before you bring it online.  Quite a few of the Win2k
>>>>"security"
>>>>issues can
>>>>hit you in under 6min.  I've actually tested a similar thing with
>>>>Win2k3 w/o
>>>>SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins.
>>>>
>>>>But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some
>>>>type of hardware problem.
>>>>
>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM
>>>>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>>>server"
>>>>ERROR.
>>>>
>>>>yes on the firewall
>>>>yes on the anti-virus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>> >To: 
>>>> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>>>server"
>>>> >ERROR.
>>>> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100
>>>> >
>>>> >Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer
>>>> >these days?
>>>> >And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP
>>>> >to get "hacked".
>>>> >
>

RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-16 Thread irv carlson

yes it is



From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:20:29 -0600

Is the "new" ram approved by Tyan? (memtest86 run it now)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:08 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

i did not build the system appro did and we changed the HD and RAM


>From: David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:38:55 +
>
>irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor
>systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even
>boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i
>did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up
>as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I
>know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may
>find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs
>aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that
>is the only other thing it could be
>
>irv carlson wrote:
>
>>the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard
>>and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything
>>like loading the server
>>
>>
>>>From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>To: 
>>>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>>server"
>>>ERROR.
>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600
>>>
>>>Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server?  I hope you have it fully
>>>patched before you bring it online.  Quite a few of the Win2k
>>>"security"
>>>issues can
>>>hit you in under 6min.  I've actually tested a similar thing with
>>>Win2k3 w/o
>>>SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins.
>>>
>>>But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some
>>>type of hardware problem.
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM
>>>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>>server"
>>>ERROR.
>>>
>>>yes on the firewall
>>>yes on the anti-virus
>>>
>>>
>>> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> >To: 
>>> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>>server"
>>> >ERROR.
>>> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100
>>> >
>>> >Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer
>>> >these days?
>>> >And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP
>>> >to get "hacked".
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >-Original Message-
>>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>>> >Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
>>> >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>> >server" ERROR.
>>> >
>>> >alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install
>>> >of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked
>>> >and we also know there is no virus!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> > >To: 
>>> > >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>> >server"
>>> > >ERROR.
>>> > >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100
>>> > >
>>> > >Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.
>>>

Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Dan Sorenson
At 05:26 PM 2/15/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>thanks for the input I have tired that alread.
>write-proctecting stills Gives us map differs after a fresh install.

You need to start isolating things to 1 or 2 known areas
and then expand, a process of integration rather than elimination.
Install source and then move the server to a private lan.  Put a
game box on that lan.  Play in LAN mode a while, see if you get the
error.  If so, it's hardware or a rogue program.  If not, let's go
internet.  Same thing but now we're hitting Valve content servers.
I'd use a cheap NAT router for this, and still play in LAN mode.

Eventually you're going to find where it breaks.  At that
point you've eliminated everything but the last change you made.

Good luck.  It's a long process, but it works.

- Dan

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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Munra -hlds

it take hours
- Original Message -
From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:17 AM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



Does this problem occur immediately or does it take days or week?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:00 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

Don;t listen to irv is very upset about this problem.  We will run memtest
again.  Also I can't tell if the memory help We installed a control server
tonight "Fresh install"  And When one of us gets to chicago we'll take the
box out and run memtest and prime95 on it.


- Original Message -
From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:20 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



Is the "new" ram approved by Tyan? (memtest86 run it now)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:08 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

i did not build the system appro did and we changed the HD and RAM



From: David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:38:55 +

irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor
systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even
boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes
i did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this
up as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd.
I know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may
find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs
aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption
that is the only other thing it could be

irv carlson wrote:


the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard
and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything
like loading the server



From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600

Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server?  I hope you have it fully
patched before you bring it online.  Quite a few of the Win2k
"security"
issues can
hit you in under 6min.  I've actually tested a similar thing with
Win2k3 w/o
SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins.

But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some
type of hardware problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.

yes on the firewall
yes on the anti-virus


>From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: 
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100
>
>Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer
>these days?
>And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP
>to get "hacked".
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv
>carlson
>Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server" ERROR.
>
>alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install
>of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not
>hacked and we also know there is no virus!
>
>
> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >To: 
> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from
> >the
>server"
> >ERROR.
> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100
> >
> >Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 

RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Stuart Stegall
Does this problem occur immediately or does it take days or week?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:00 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

Don;t listen to irv is very upset about this problem.  We will run memtest
again.  Also I can't tell if the memory help We installed a control server
tonight "Fresh install"  And When one of us gets to chicago we'll take the
box out and run memtest and prime95 on it.


- Original Message -
From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:20 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.


> Is the "new" ram approved by Tyan? (memtest86 run it now)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:08 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
> ERROR.
>
> i did not build the system appro did and we changed the HD and RAM
>
>
>>From: David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
>>ERROR.
>>Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:38:55 +
>>
>>irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor
>>systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even
>>boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes
>>i did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this
>>up as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd.
>>I know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may
>>find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs
>>aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption
>>that is the only other thing it could be
>>
>>irv carlson wrote:
>>
>>>the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard
>>>and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything
>>>like loading the server
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>>To: 
>>>>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>>>server"
>>>>ERROR.
>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600
>>>>
>>>>Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server?  I hope you have it fully
>>>>patched before you bring it online.  Quite a few of the Win2k
>>>>"security"
>>>>issues can
>>>>hit you in under 6min.  I've actually tested a similar thing with
>>>>Win2k3 w/o
>>>>SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins.
>>>>
>>>>But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some
>>>>type of hardware problem.
>>>>
>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM
>>>>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>>>server"
>>>>ERROR.
>>>>
>>>>yes on the firewall
>>>>yes on the anti-virus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>> >To: 
>>>> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>>>server"
>>>> >ERROR.
>>>> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100
>>>> >
>>>> >Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer
>>>> >these days?
>>>> >And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP
>>>> >to get "hacked".
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >-Original Message-
>>>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv
>>>> >carlson
>>>> >Sent:

Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Munra -hlds

Don;t listen to irv is very upset about this problem.  We will run memtest
again.  Also I can't tell if the memory help We installed a control server
tonight "Fresh install"  And When one of us gets to chicago we'll take the
box out and run memtest and prime95 on it.


- Original Message -
From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:20 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



Is the "new" ram approved by Tyan? (memtest86 run it now)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:08 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

i did not build the system appro did and we changed the HD and RAM



From: David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:38:55 +

irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor
systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even
boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i
did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up
as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I
know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may
find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs
aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that
is the only other thing it could be

irv carlson wrote:


the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard
and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything
like loading the server



From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600

Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server?  I hope you have it fully
patched before you bring it online.  Quite a few of the Win2k
"security"
issues can
hit you in under 6min.  I've actually tested a similar thing with
Win2k3 w/o
SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins.

But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some
type of hardware problem.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.

yes on the firewall
yes on the anti-virus


>From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: 
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100
>
>Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer
>these days?
>And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP
>to get "hacked".
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server" ERROR.
>
>alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install
>of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked
>and we also know there is no virus!
>
>
> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >To: 
> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server"
> >ERROR.
> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100
> >
> >Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv
> >carlson
> >Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
> >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >server" ERROR.
> >
> >the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we
> >would just like to fix this issue
> >
> >
> > >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >To: 
> > >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from
>

RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread irv carlson

we did change the mem and still the same result what do you think you are
not hearing? just ask



From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:53:39 -0600

To be honest, I seriously doubt Appro put any hardware in that they hadn't
seriously tested.  They are a pretty serious cluster vendor.  I used them
prior to switching to blades.

I seriously feel as though there is something here we are not hearing.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:20 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] If we are talking about
power supplies then http://www.pcpowercooling.com is hard to pass by

On 2/16/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I never Tought About the PSU  We have replaced it once becuase it went
> bad.
> The got the servers from http://www.appro.com/   I can imagne they would
> use
> a psu that was not strong enough?
>
> Also After futher Checking the memory We found that the memory on
> tyans site is not recomended.  I shocks me that aprro would but a weak
> psu and a non-reocomended memory However the memory site does recomend
> to for that MoBo.
>
> Umm
> Thanks guys
> We sent the windows Box (The video went out on the MoBo) to aprro
> today I'll Make sure we call them he see about adding a new PSU  How
> high of a psu would you say 400w 500w
>
> If we get this problem fixed I'll be sure to send all and any findings
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
> ERROR.
>
>
> > Actually that motherboard is HIGHLY sensitive to PSUs, but the fact
> > It's running Prim95 for (only 8hours ... Try 48hrs) a good amount of
> > time
> makes
> > that doubtful.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
> > Williams
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:39 PM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> server"
> > ERROR.
> >
> > irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor
> systems.
> > and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as
> > (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did
> > say EACH.
> > I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a
> > potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I
> > know this seems
> to
> > have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of
> > power
> is
> > causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's
> > not that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing
> > it
> could
> > be
> >
> > irv carlson wrote:
> >
> >> the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng
> >> motherboard and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before
> >> doing anything like loading the server
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >>> To: 
> >>> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >>> server"
> >>> ERROR.
> >>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600
> >>>
> >>> Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server?  I hope you have it
> >>> fully patched before you bring it online.  Quite a few of the
> >>> Win2k "security"
> >>> issues can
> >>> hit you in under 6min.  I've actually tested a similar thing with
> >>> Win2k3 w/o
> >>> SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins.
> >>>
> >>> But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or
> >>> some type of hardware problem.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv
> >>> carlson
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM
> >>> To: hlds

RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Stuart Stegall
Is the "new" ram approved by Tyan? (memtest86 run it now)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:08 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

i did not build the system appro did and we changed the HD and RAM


>From: David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:38:55 +
>
>irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor
>systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even
>boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i
>did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up
>as a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I
>know this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may
>find the lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs
>aren't picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that
>is the only other thing it could be
>
>irv carlson wrote:
>
>>the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard
>>and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything
>>like loading the server
>>
>>
>>>From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>To: 
>>>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>>server"
>>>ERROR.
>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600
>>>
>>>Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server?  I hope you have it fully
>>>patched before you bring it online.  Quite a few of the Win2k
>>>"security"
>>>issues can
>>>hit you in under 6min.  I've actually tested a similar thing with
>>>Win2k3 w/o
>>>SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins.
>>>
>>>But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some
>>>type of hardware problem.
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM
>>>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>>server"
>>>ERROR.
>>>
>>>yes on the firewall
>>>yes on the anti-virus
>>>
>>>
>>> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> >To: 
>>> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>>server"
>>> >ERROR.
>>> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100
>>> >
>>> >Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer
>>> >these days?
>>> >And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP
>>> >to get "hacked".
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >-Original Message-
>>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>>> >Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
>>> >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>> >server" ERROR.
>>> >
>>> >alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install
>>> >of server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked
>>> >and we also know there is no virus!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> > >To: 
>>> > >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>> >server"
>>> > >ERROR.
>>> > >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100
>>> > >
>>> > >Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >-Original Message-
>>> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv
>>> > >carlson
>>> > >Sent: 15. februar

Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread irv carlson

i did not build the system appro did and we changed the HD and RAM



From: David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:38:55 +

irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor
systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even
boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i
did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as
a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know
this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the
lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't
picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that is the
only other thing it could be

irv carlson wrote:


the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and
duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like
loading
the server



From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600

Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server?  I hope you have it fully
patched
before you bring it online.  Quite a few of the Win2k "security"
issues can
hit you in under 6min.  I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3
w/o
SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins.

But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some
type
of
hardware problem.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.

yes on the firewall
yes on the anti-virus


>From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: 
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100
>
>Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these
>days?
>And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to
>get "hacked".
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server" ERROR.
>
>alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
>server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we
>also know there is no virus!
>
>
> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >To: 
> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server"
> >ERROR.
> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100
> >
> >Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
> >Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
> >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >server" ERROR.
> >
> >the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we
> >would just like to fix this issue
> >
> >
> > >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >To: 
> > >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >server"
> > >ERROR.
> > >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100
> > >
> > >Just to clear something up for you :)
> > >
> > >The server is free and people "sell" servers for their own profit,
> > >not Valves.
> > >Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really
> > >something
>
> > >Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers
> > >who
>
> > >currupt them.
> > >
> > >I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems?
> > >
> > >-Alex
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
> &g

RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Stuart Stegall
To be honest, I seriously doubt Appro put any hardware in that they hadn't
seriously tested.  They are a pretty serious cluster vendor.  I used them
prior to switching to blades.

I seriously feel as though there is something here we are not hearing.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:20 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] If we are talking about
power supplies then http://www.pcpowercooling.com is hard to pass by

On 2/16/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I never Tought About the PSU  We have replaced it once becuase it went
> bad.
> The got the servers from http://www.appro.com/   I can imagne they would
> use
> a psu that was not strong enough?
>
> Also After futher Checking the memory We found that the memory on
> tyans site is not recomended.  I shocks me that aprro would but a weak
> psu and a non-reocomended memory However the memory site does recomend
> to for that MoBo.
>
> Umm
> Thanks guys
> We sent the windows Box (The video went out on the MoBo) to aprro
> today I'll Make sure we call them he see about adding a new PSU  How
> high of a psu would you say 400w 500w
>
> If we get this problem fixed I'll be sure to send all and any findings
> - Original Message -
> From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
> ERROR.
>
>
> > Actually that motherboard is HIGHLY sensitive to PSUs, but the fact
> > It's running Prim95 for (only 8hours ... Try 48hrs) a good amount of
> > time
> makes
> > that doubtful.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
> > Williams
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:39 PM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> server"
> > ERROR.
> >
> > irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor
> systems.
> > and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as
> > (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did
> > say EACH.
> > I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a
> > potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I
> > know this seems
> to
> > have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of
> > power
> is
> > causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's
> > not that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing
> > it
> could
> > be
> >
> > irv carlson wrote:
> >
> >> the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng
> >> motherboard and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before
> >> doing anything like loading the server
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >>> To: 
> >>> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >>> server"
> >>> ERROR.
> >>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600
> >>>
> >>> Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server?  I hope you have it
> >>> fully patched before you bring it online.  Quite a few of the
> >>> Win2k "security"
> >>> issues can
> >>> hit you in under 6min.  I've actually tested a similar thing with
> >>> Win2k3 w/o
> >>> SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins.
> >>>
> >>> But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or
> >>> some type of hardware problem.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv
> >>> carlson
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM
> >>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >>> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >>> server"
> >>> ERROR.
> >>>
> >>> yes on the firewall
> >>> yes on the anti-virus
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >From: "A

Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Whisper
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
If we are talking about power supplies then http://www.pcpowercooling.com is
hard to pass by

On 2/16/06, Munra -hlds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I never Tought About the PSU  We have replaced it once becuase it went
> bad.
> The got the servers from http://www.appro.com/   I can imagne they would
> use
> a psu that was not strong enough?
>
> Also After futher Checking the memory We found that the memory on tyans
> site
> is not recomended.  I shocks me that aprro would but a weak psu and a
> non-reocomended memory However the memory site does recomend to for that
> MoBo.
>
> Umm
> Thanks guys
> We sent the windows Box (The video went out on the MoBo) to aprro today
> I'll
> Make sure we call them he see about adding a new PSU  How high of a psu
> would you say 400w 500w
>
> If we get this problem fixed I'll be sure to send all and any findings
> - Original Message -
> From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
> ERROR.
>
>
> > Actually that motherboard is HIGHLY sensitive to PSUs, but the fact It's
> > running Prim95 for (only 8hours ... Try 48hrs) a good amount of time
> makes
> > that doubtful.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Williams
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:39 PM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> server"
> > ERROR.
> >
> > irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor
> systems.
> > and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as
> > (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did say
> > EACH.
> > I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a potential
> > problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know this seems
> to
> > have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of power
> is
> > causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's not
> > that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing it
> could
> > be
> >
> > irv carlson wrote:
> >
> >> the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard
> >> and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything
> >> like loading the server
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >>> To: 
> >>> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >>> server"
> >>> ERROR.
> >>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600
> >>>
> >>> Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server?  I hope you have it fully
> >>> patched before you bring it online.  Quite a few of the Win2k
> >>> "security"
> >>> issues can
> >>> hit you in under 6min.  I've actually tested a similar thing with
> >>> Win2k3 w/o
> >>> SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins.
> >>>
> >>> But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some
> >>> type of hardware problem.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM
> >>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >>> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >>> server"
> >>> ERROR.
> >>>
> >>> yes on the firewall
> >>> yes on the anti-virus
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >>> >To: 
> >>> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >>> server"
> >>> >ERROR.
> >>> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100
> >>> >
> >>> >Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these
> >>> >days?
> >>> >And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know you

Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Munra -hlds

I never Tought About the PSU  We have replaced it once becuase it went bad.
The got the servers from http://www.appro.com/   I can imagne they would use
a psu that was not strong enough?

Also After futher Checking the memory We found that the memory on tyans site
is not recomended.  I shocks me that aprro would but a weak psu and a
non-reocomended memory However the memory site does recomend to for that
MoBo.

Umm
Thanks guys
We sent the windows Box (The video went out on the MoBo) to aprro today I'll
Make sure we call them he see about adding a new PSU  How high of a psu
would you say 400w 500w

If we get this problem fixed I'll be sure to send all and any findings
- Original Message -
From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:05 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



Actually that motherboard is HIGHLY sensitive to PSUs, but the fact It's
running Prim95 for (only 8hours ... Try 48hrs) a good amount of time makes
that doubtful.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Williams
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:39 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor systems.
and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as
(without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did say
EACH.
I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a potential
problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know this seems to
have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of power is
causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's not
that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing it could
be

irv carlson wrote:


the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard
and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything
like loading the server



From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600

Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server?  I hope you have it fully
patched before you bring it online.  Quite a few of the Win2k
"security"
issues can
hit you in under 6min.  I've actually tested a similar thing with
Win2k3 w/o
SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins.

But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some
type of hardware problem.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.

yes on the firewall
yes on the anti-virus


>From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: 
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100
>
>Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these
>days?
>And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to
>get "hacked".
>
>
>
>-Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server" ERROR.
>
>alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
>server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and
>we also know there is no virus!
>
>
> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >To: 
> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server"
> >ERROR.
> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100
> >
> >Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv
> >carlson
> >Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
> >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >server" ERROR.
> >
> >the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we
> >would just like to fix this issue
> >
> >
> > >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" 

RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Stuart Stegall
Do the servers ever work? Or is this a progressive problem.  And if you move
the files to your install and do listen server, they are using the same
file.

Valve does some kind of file checking, but I don't believe it's a hash, as
for CAL CS1.6 the servers use specially updated maps.  They are server side
only though.

When I say MD5sum, I am saying go search on Google and download a tool
called md5sum.exe (your linux box will have the command already).  Get the
md5sum of a .bsp like de_dust.bsp and then post it here

We'll compare it to see if the file is "bad", if the file is bad then you
are likely either having a storage system problem, a memory problem, OR a
router is causing you to download the files corrupted.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:51 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

No the Files are not Bad.  I can take a "Changed File" say de_dust (yes it
happens on stock maps)  And make a listen server on my PC and play bots no
problem.  What I am assuming is happen is the md5 hash(I hope I am calling
it the right thing or it is also know as the check sum)  number is changing
(I know this ia happening) And I am assuming the the client checks the
servers map to see if the have the same md5 hash number and if the don't
then the files are differnet.

Aslo Yes I do run auto update on the linux box but I have both a linux and
windows box that are haveing these issues. When i do a man update
with -Verify_all then it does download new maps but they change with in
hours.

Can anyone tell me how the Server checks if the Files are the same???  They
just check the md5 hash?


- Original Message -
From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.


> Perhaps I missed this, but are the files actually bad? Have you
> compared de_quebec on the server with de_quebec from a client to see
> whether it is Valve's test that is throwing a false error (for some
> unknown reason - maybe hardware) or that the files have actually
> become corrupted?
>
>
> On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:59 PM, irv carlson wrote:
>
>> the only thing that has not been change is the tyan 2469ng
>> motherboard and the duel 2400MP's and every time we do a fresh
>> install of server 2000 and like munra said we have the same problem
>> with the linux box and we did that to rule out the OS being the
>> problem
>>
>>
>>> From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>> server"
>>> ERROR.
>>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:14:18 +0100
>>>
>>> If you want help, you should be more open minded and just answer the
>>> questions to rule things out.
>>> Acting rude will not help anyone..
>>>
>>> Good luck with your problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
>>> Sent: 15. februar 2006 22:54
>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>> server" ERROR.
>>>
>>> We been hacked years ago we know how we were Hacked they got in
>>> serv-u.
>>> That is not the issue  And no virus.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:18 PM
>>> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>> server"
>>> ERROR.
>>>
>>>
>>> > Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer
>>> these
>>> > days?
>>> > And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your
>>> IP to
>>> > get "hacked".
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv
>>> > carlson
>>> > Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
>>> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> > Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>> > server" ERROR.
>>> >
>>> > alot of 

RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Stuart Stegall
Actually that motherboard is HIGHLY sensitive to PSUs, but the fact It's
running Prim95 for (only 8hours ... Try 48hrs) a good amount of time makes
that doubtful.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Williams
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:39 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor systems.
and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even boot's as
(without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i did say EACH.
I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as a potential
problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know this seems to
have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the lack of power is
causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't picking up. if it's not
that then check for file corruption that is the only other thing it could be

irv carlson wrote:

> the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard
> and duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything
> like loading the server
>
>
>> From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> To: 
>> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>> server"
>> ERROR.
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600
>>
>> Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server?  I hope you have it fully
>> patched before you bring it online.  Quite a few of the Win2k
>> "security"
>> issues can
>> hit you in under 6min.  I've actually tested a similar thing with
>> Win2k3 w/o
>> SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins.
>>
>> But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some
>> type of hardware problem.
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>> server"
>> ERROR.
>>
>> yes on the firewall
>> yes on the anti-virus
>>
>>
>> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> >To: 
>> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>> server"
>> >ERROR.
>> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100
>> >
>> >Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these
>> >days?
>> >And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to
>> >get "hacked".
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>> >Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
>> >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>> >server" ERROR.
>> >
>> >alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
>> >server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and
>> >we also know there is no virus!
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> > >To: 
>> > >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>> >server"
>> > >ERROR.
>> > >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100
>> > >
>> > >Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-Original Message-
>> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv
>> > >carlson
>> > >Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
>> > >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> > >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>> > >server" ERROR.
>> > >
>> > >the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we
>> > >would just like to fix this issue
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> > > >To: 
>> > > >Subj

Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Munra -hlds

No the Files are not Bad.  I can take a "Changed File" say de_dust (yes it
happens on stock maps)  And make a listen server on my PC and play bots no
problem.  What I am assuming is happen is the md5 hash(I hope I am calling
it the right thing or it is also know as the check sum)  number is changing
(I know this ia happening) And I am assuming the the client checks the
servers map to see if the have the same md5 hash number and if the don't
then the files are differnet.

Aslo Yes I do run auto update on the linux box but I have both a linux and
windows box that are haveing these issues. When i do a man update
with -Verify_all then it does download new maps but they change with in
hours.

Can anyone tell me how the Server checks if the Files are the same???  They
just check the md5 hash?


- Original Message -
From: "Robert Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



Perhaps I missed this, but are the files actually bad? Have you
compared de_quebec on the server with de_quebec from a client to see
whether it is Valve's test that is throwing a false error (for some
unknown reason - maybe hardware) or that the files have actually
become corrupted?


On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:59 PM, irv carlson wrote:


the only thing that has not been change is the tyan 2469ng
motherboard and
the duel 2400MP's and every time we do a fresh install of server
2000 and
like munra said we have the same problem with the linux box and we
did that
to rule out the OS being the problem



From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:14:18 +0100

If you want help, you should be more open minded and just answer the
questions to rule things out.
Acting rude will not help anyone..

Good luck with your problem.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
Sent: 15. februar 2006 22:54
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

We been hacked years ago we know how we were Hacked they got in
serv-u.
That is not the issue  And no virus.
- Original Message -
From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.


> Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer
these
> days?
> And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your
IP to
> get "hacked".
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
> Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> server" ERROR.
>
> alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh
install of
> server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked
and
> we also know there is no virus!
>
>

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RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Affordablegameservers.com
the 2400mp's take 45watts at max load

he should be fine with a true 350watt ps

these arent the heat up like the sun xeons


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Williams
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:39 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.


irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor
systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even
boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i
did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as
a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know
this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the
lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't
picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that is the
only other thing it could be

irv carlson wrote:

> the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and
> duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like
> loading
> the server
>
>
>> From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> To: 
>> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>> server"
>> ERROR.
>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600
>>
>> Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server?  I hope you have it fully
>> patched
>> before you bring it online.  Quite a few of the Win2k "security"
>> issues can
>> hit you in under 6min.  I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3
>> w/o
>> SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins.
>>
>> But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some
>> type
>> of
>> hardware problem.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>> server"
>> ERROR.
>>
>> yes on the firewall
>> yes on the anti-virus
>>
>>
>> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> >To: 
>> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>> server"
>> >ERROR.
>> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100
>> >
>> >Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these
>> >days?
>> >And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to
>> >get "hacked".
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>> >Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
>> >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>> >server" ERROR.
>> >
>> >alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
>> >server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we
>> >also know there is no virus!
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> > >To: 
>> > >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>> >server"
>> > >ERROR.
>> > >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100
>> > >
>> > >Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-Original Message-
>> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>> > >Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
>> > >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> > >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>> > >server" ERROR.
>> > >
>> > >the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we
>> > >would just like to fix this issue
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> > > >To: 
>> > > >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your

Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread David Williams

irv i reread your system specs and your running a dual processor
systems. and a 350W psu. ARE YOU MAD i'm surprised your system even
boot's as (without checking) each cpu draws about 80 - 100 watts, yes i
did say EACH. I'm even more surprised that no-one else picked this up as
a potential problem, as it does have to be faulty memory or hdd. I know
this seems to have nothing to do with your problem but you may find the
lack of power is causing memory errors that you diag progs aren't
picking up. if it's not that then check for file corruption that is the
only other thing it could be

irv carlson wrote:


the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and
duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like
loading
the server



From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600

Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server?  I hope you have it fully
patched
before you bring it online.  Quite a few of the Win2k "security"
issues can
hit you in under 6min.  I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3
w/o
SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins.

But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some
type
of
hardware problem.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.

yes on the firewall
yes on the anti-virus


>From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: 
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100
>
>Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these
>days?
>And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to
>get "hacked".
>
>
>
>-Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server" ERROR.
>
>alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
>server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we
>also know there is no virus!
>
>
> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >To: 
> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server"
> >ERROR.
> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100
> >
> >Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
> >Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
> >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >server" ERROR.
> >
> >the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we
> >would just like to fix this issue
> >
> >
> > >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >To: 
> > >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >server"
> > >ERROR.
> > >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100
> > >
> > >Just to clear something up for you :)
> > >
> > >The server is free and people "sell" servers for their own profit,
> > >not Valves.
> > >Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really
> > >something
>
> > >Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers
> > >who
>
> > >currupt them.
> > >
> > >I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems?
> > >
> > >-Alex
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
> > >Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38
> > >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> > >server" ERROR.
> > >
> > >I am helping irv with this problem.  I have to say He left out alot
> > >of information.
> > >I have to Say this prob

RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread irv carlson

the only thing we have left to change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and
duel 2400MP'S yes updates are up to date before doing anything like loading
the server



From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:36:08 -0600

Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server?  I hope you have it fully patched
before you bring it online.  Quite a few of the Win2k "security" issues can
hit you in under 6min.  I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3
w/o
SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins.

But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some type
of
hardware problem.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

yes on the firewall
yes on the anti-virus


>From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: 
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100
>
>Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these
>days?
>And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to
>get "hacked".
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server" ERROR.
>
>alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
>server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we
>also know there is no virus!
>
>
> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >To: 
> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server"
> >ERROR.
> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100
> >
> >Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
> >Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
> >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >server" ERROR.
> >
> >the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we
> >would just like to fix this issue
> >
> >
> > >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >To: 
> > >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >server"
> > >ERROR.
> > >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100
> > >
> > >Just to clear something up for you :)
> > >
> > >The server is free and people "sell" servers for their own profit,
> > >not Valves.
> > >Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really
> > >something
>
> > >Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers
> > >who
>
> > >currupt them.
> > >
> > >I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems?
> > >
> > >-Alex
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
> > >Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38
> > >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> > >server" ERROR.
> > >
> > >I am helping irv with this problem.  I have to say He left out alot
> > >of information.
> > >I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off.  We can sell
> > >server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at
all.
> > >I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing
> > >list said to run prime95.  Which we have with no errors.
> > >
> > >Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info.  On a
> > >side
> >
> > >not Alferd has not replyed for some reason.
> > >
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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread irv carlson

this might sound dumb but how do you do that the stock maps are not in the
maps folder in source maybe munra has i dont know



From: Robert Dodd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:15:05 -0800

Perhaps I missed this, but are the files actually bad? Have you
compared de_quebec on the server with de_quebec from a client to see
whether it is Valve's test that is throwing a false error (for some
unknown reason - maybe hardware) or that the files have actually
become corrupted?


On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:59 PM, irv carlson wrote:


the only thing that has not been change is the tyan 2469ng
motherboard and
the duel 2400MP's and every time we do a fresh install of server
2000 and
like munra said we have the same problem with the linux box and we
did that
to rule out the OS being the problem



From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:14:18 +0100

If you want help, you should be more open minded and just answer the
questions to rule things out.
Acting rude will not help anyone..

Good luck with your problem.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
Sent: 15. februar 2006 22:54
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

We been hacked years ago we know how we were Hacked they got in
serv-u.
That is not the issue  And no virus.
- Original Message -
From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.


> Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer
these
> days?
> And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your
IP to
> get "hacked".
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
> Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> server" ERROR.
>
> alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh
install of
> server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked
and
> we also know there is no virus!
>
>

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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Robert Dodd

Perhaps I missed this, but are the files actually bad? Have you
compared de_quebec on the server with de_quebec from a client to see
whether it is Valve's test that is throwing a false error (for some
unknown reason - maybe hardware) or that the files have actually
become corrupted?


On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:59 PM, irv carlson wrote:


the only thing that has not been change is the tyan 2469ng
motherboard and
the duel 2400MP's and every time we do a fresh install of server
2000 and
like munra said we have the same problem with the linux box and we
did that
to rule out the OS being the problem



From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:14:18 +0100

If you want help, you should be more open minded and just answer the
questions to rule things out.
Acting rude will not help anyone..

Good luck with your problem.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
Sent: 15. februar 2006 22:54
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

We been hacked years ago we know how we were Hacked they got in
serv-u.
That is not the issue  And no virus.
- Original Message -
From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.


> Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer
these
> days?
> And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your
IP to
> get "hacked".
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
> Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> server" ERROR.
>
> alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh
install of
> server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked
and
> we also know there is no virus!
>
>

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RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread irv carlson

the only thing that has not been change is the tyan 2469ng motherboard and
the duel 2400MP's and every time we do a fresh install of server 2000 and
like munra said we have the same problem with the linux box and we did that
to rule out the OS being the problem



From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:14:18 +0100

If you want help, you should be more open minded and just answer the
questions to rule things out.
Acting rude will not help anyone..

Good luck with your problem.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
Sent: 15. februar 2006 22:54
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

We been hacked years ago we know how we were Hacked they got in serv-u.
That is not the issue  And no virus.
- Original Message -
From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.


> Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these
> days?
> And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to
> get "hacked".
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
> Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> server" ERROR.
>
> alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
> server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and
> we also know there is no virus!
>
>

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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Steven Hartland

Not been following the thread but do you run with auto update enabled?

If so try disabling it and running manual updates that you verify that's
what we do and I cant say we've seen this problem ever.

   Steve / K



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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Munra -hlds

I am not Trying to be rude
This problem as cost us Lots of money and time toubleshooting.  I am not
blamning valve (It is most likley an hardware issue) I dont think you
understand how hard it is to figure this problem out. I mean if you search
the net we are not the only ones with is problem.  All teh stuff your
telling me I already done and/or look into.  I am not trying to be rude.
Firwall is running and i am saying after being hacked we took steps to try
and prevent it again.

one thing I have notice on the linux box. (yes I know this is a windows
list)
A dods server has beenrunnin a week with no problems.  The maps are still
working.   But the css server is still getting the Errors.  This what makes
this problems so hard to figure out it is RANDOM.

Aslo on the windows box We ran an OZ deathmatch server and It never had a
Problem.
- Original Message -
From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:14 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



If you want help, you should be more open minded and just answer the
questions to rule things out.
Acting rude will not help anyone..

Good luck with your problem.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
Sent: 15. februar 2006 22:54
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

We been hacked years ago we know how we were Hacked they got in serv-u.
That is not the issue  And no virus.
- Original Message -
From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.



Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these
days?
And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to
get "hacked".



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and
we also know there is no virus!




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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Munra -hlds

thanks for the input I have tired that alread.
write-proctecting stills Gives us map differs after a fresh install.
Md5sum is what is Changing on the bsp files.  So you are saying this a
hardware issue?  Is there software I can use to track down what piece of
hardware is cuasing this issue?

If Alferd is still reading This I am Correct and assuming that the server
checks the check sum of the clients maps and compars it to the servers Map
check sum to detemine if the map is the Same.  Would this also apply to the
HLDSupdatetool???

Sorry For the ass comment been working on this problem a long time Pisses me
off I cant figure it out.  After spending thouands of dollars.
- Original Message -
From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:02 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



Install and update a new install of srcds.
Now write-protect all the .bsp files.
(maybe do this after the next patch ...)
Md5sum ALL the .bsp files.
Now that you have a baseline, run the server till someone get the error.
(ok
IF someone gets the error)
If they never get the error, then you know it's some sort of software
problem.
If they do, then you have discovered a hardware problem.

I am sort of doubful of a problem with the hldsupdatetool, as I use it on
both platforms (actually I use it on FreeBSD as well) and I don't have
this
problem except with bad hardware.  (Just had this sort of problem with a
bad
RAID battery)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:48 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

We don't know that

Source Files Differs with in hours and h1 content withh differ however it
take a couple of days.
If it is a Hardware Routing issue is there a Way to Find were the PRoblem
is.  I mean we went from ide drives and Changed them to sata drives with
satat card.

LIke I siad befor memtest and Prime95 ran 8+ hours with no errors or
crashes.  Any software we can run to Find why it is changing or how.  We
have software telling us it is Changing but is can never tells us what is
changing.
- Original Message -
From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:04 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



Then it is a hardware or routing issue. Since you have eliminated the
Windows install, and we all know a new source/hl1 install works just
fine.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:44 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and
we also know there is no virus!



From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100

Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would
just like to fix this issue


>From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: 
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100
>
>Just to clear something up for you :)
>
>The server is free and people "sell" servers for their own profit,
>not Valves.
>Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really
>something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or
>updateservers who currupt them.
>
>I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems?
>
>-Alex
>
>-----Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
>Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server" ERROR.
>
>I am helping irv with this problem.  I have to say He left out alot
>of information.
>I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off.  We can sell server
>and we can't even run clan servers w

RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Alexander Kobbevik
If you want help, you should be more open minded and just answer the
questions to rule things out.
Acting rude will not help anyone..

Good luck with your problem.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
Sent: 15. februar 2006 22:54
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

We been hacked years ago we know how we were Hacked they got in serv-u.
That is not the issue  And no virus.
- Original Message -
From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
ERROR.


> Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these
> days?
> And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to
> get "hacked".
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
> Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> server" ERROR.
>
> alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
> server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and
> we also know there is no virus!
>
>

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RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Stuart Stegall
Install and update a new install of srcds.
Now write-protect all the .bsp files.
(maybe do this after the next patch ...)
Md5sum ALL the .bsp files.
Now that you have a baseline, run the server till someone get the error. (ok
IF someone gets the error)
If they never get the error, then you know it's some sort of software
problem.
If they do, then you have discovered a hardware problem.

I am sort of doubful of a problem with the hldsupdatetool, as I use it on
both platforms (actually I use it on FreeBSD as well) and I don't have this
problem except with bad hardware.  (Just had this sort of problem with a bad
RAID battery)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:48 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

We don't know that

Source Files Differs with in hours and h1 content withh differ however it
take a couple of days.
If it is a Hardware Routing issue is there a Way to Find were the PRoblem
is.  I mean we went from ide drives and Changed them to sata drives with
satat card.

LIke I siad befor memtest and Prime95 ran 8+ hours with no errors or
crashes.  Any software we can run to Find why it is changing or how.  We
have software telling us it is Changing but is can never tells us what is
changing.
- Original Message -
From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:04 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.


> Then it is a hardware or routing issue. Since you have eliminated the
> Windows install, and we all know a new source/hl1 install works just fine.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:44 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
> ERROR.
>
> alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
> server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and
> we also know there is no virus!
>
>
>>From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>To: 
>>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
>>ERROR.
>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100
>>
>>Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>>Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
>>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>server" ERROR.
>>
>>the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would
>>just like to fix this issue
>>
>>
>> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> >To: 
>> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>>server"
>> >ERROR.
>> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100
>> >
>> >Just to clear something up for you :)
>> >
>> >The server is free and people "sell" servers for their own profit,
>> >not Valves.
>> >Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really
>> >something Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or
>> >updateservers who currupt them.
>> >
>> >I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems?
>> >
>> >-Alex
>> >
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
>> >Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38
>> >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> >Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>> >server" ERROR.
>> >
>> >I am helping irv with this problem.  I have to say He left out alot
>> >of information.
>> >I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off.  We can sell server
>> >and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all.
>> >I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing
>> >list said to run prime95.  Which we have with no errors.
>> >
>> >Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info.  On a
>> >side
>>
>> >not Alferd has not replyed for some reason.
>> >
>> >
>

Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Munra -hlds

We been hacked years ago we know how we were Hacked they got in serv-u.
That is not the issue  And no virus.
- Original Message -
From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these
days?
And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get
"hacked".



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we
also know there is no virus!



From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the

server"

ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100

Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would
just like to fix this issue


>From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: 
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100
>
>Just to clear something up for you :)
>
>The server is free and people "sell" servers for their own profit,
>not Valves.
>Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something



>Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who



>currupt them.
>
>I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems?
>
>-Alex
>
>-Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
>Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server" ERROR.
>
>I am helping irv with this problem.  I have to say He left out alot
>of information.
>I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off.  We can sell server
>and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all.
>I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing
>list said to run prime95.  Which we have with no errors.
>
>Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info.  On a
>side

>not Alferd has not replyed for some reason.
>
>

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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Munra -hlds

We don't know that

Source Files Differs with in hours and h1 content withh differ however it
take a couple of days.
If it is a Hardware Routing issue is there a Way to Find were the PRoblem
is.  I mean we went from ide drives and Changed them to sata drives with
satat card.

LIke I siad befor memtest and Prime95 ran 8+ hours with no errors or
crashes.  Any software we can run to Find why it is changing or how.  We
have software telling us it is Changing but is can never tells us what is
changing.
- Original Message -
From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:04 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



Then it is a hardware or routing issue. Since you have eliminated the
Windows install, and we all know a new source/hl1 install works just fine.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:44 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we
also
know there is no virus!



From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100

Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would
just like to fix this issue


>From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: 
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100
>
>Just to clear something up for you :)
>
>The server is free and people "sell" servers for their own profit,
>not Valves.
>Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something
>Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who
>currupt them.
>
>I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems?
>
>-Alex
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
>Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server" ERROR.
>
>I am helping irv with this problem.  I have to say He left out alot
>of information.
>I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off.  We can sell server
>and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all.
>I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing
>list said to run prime95.  Which we have with no errors.
>
>Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info.  On a
>side

>not Alferd has not replyed for some reason.
>
>

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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Munra -hlds

Why Does every one on this list an ass and yes it is a Problem with Valve.
When it only Chooses to do this With BSPs and it chosses only bsps.
I ran an Bf2 server Never had a problem (any other Games servers).  Then if
it is a Server Issues it is not OS (happens on both linux and Windows) based
problem  and if it is a hardware issuse that Steam doesnt Like don't you
think it would be worth valves time just to take some interst into it? I
mean Poeple how right Software usally care about that.  And if you Search
the net we are not the only ones with is problem I Just find it odd after
running a program to monitor files changes it only happens to BSP files.
And it happens to stock files.

Please stop being an ass if you have nothing usefull to add to help the
problem your input it not needed


- Original Message -
From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:46 AM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.



Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would
just like to fix this issue



From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the

server"

ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100

Just to clear something up for you :)

The server is free and people "sell" servers for their own profit, not
Valves.
Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something
Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who
currupt them.

I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems?

-Alex

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

I am helping irv with this problem.  I have to say He left out alot of
information.
I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off.  We can sell server
and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all.
I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list
said to run prime95.  Which we have with no errors.

Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info.  On a side



not Alferd has not replyed for some reason.




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RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Stuart Stegall
Did you say this was Windows 2000 Server?  I hope you have it fully patched
before you bring it online.  Quite a few of the Win2k "security" issues can
hit you in under 6min.  I've actually tested a similar thing with Win2k3 w/o
SP1 ... Some files got replace mysteriously in under about 10mins.

But honestly the issue sounds like it is either a bad router or some type of
hardware problem.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:06 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

yes on the firewall
yes on the anti-virus


>From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: 
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100
>
>Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these
>days?
>And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to
>get "hacked".
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server" ERROR.
>
>alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
>server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we
>also know there is no virus!
>
>
> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >To: 
> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server"
> >ERROR.
> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100
> >
> >Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
> >Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
> >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >server" ERROR.
> >
> >the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we
> >would just like to fix this issue
> >
> >
> > >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >To: 
> > >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >server"
> > >ERROR.
> > >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100
> > >
> > >Just to clear something up for you :)
> > >
> > >The server is free and people "sell" servers for their own profit,
> > >not Valves.
> > >Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really
> > >something
>
> > >Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers
> > >who
>
> > >currupt them.
> > >
> > >I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems?
> > >
> > >-Alex
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
> > >Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38
> > >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> > >server" ERROR.
> > >
> > >I am helping irv with this problem.  I have to say He left out alot
> > >of information.
> > >I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off.  We can sell
> > >server and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at
all.
> > >I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing
> > >list said to run prime95.  Which we have with no errors.
> > >
> > >Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info.  On a
> > >side
> >
> > >not Alferd has not replyed for some reason.
> > >
> > >
> >
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RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread irv carlson

yes on the firewall
yes on the anti-virus



From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:18:13 +0100

Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these
days?
And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get
"hacked".



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we
also know there is no virus!


>From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: 
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100
>
>Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server" ERROR.
>
>the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would
>just like to fix this issue
>
>
> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >To: 
> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server"
> >ERROR.
> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100
> >
> >Just to clear something up for you :)
> >
> >The server is free and people "sell" servers for their own profit,
> >not Valves.
> >Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something

> >Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who

> >currupt them.
> >
> >I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems?
> >
> >-Alex
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
> >Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38
> >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >server" ERROR.
> >
> >I am helping irv with this problem.  I have to say He left out alot
> >of information.
> >I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off.  We can sell server
> >and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all.
> >I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing
> >list said to run prime95.  Which we have with no errors.
> >
> >Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info.  On a
> >side
>
> >not Alferd has not replyed for some reason.
> >
> >
>
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RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Alexander Kobbevik
Do you know how long it takes for a virus to infect a computer these
days?
And you didn't say if you had a firewall. No need to know your IP to get
"hacked".



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: 15. februar 2006 19:44
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we
also know there is no virus!


>From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: 
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100
>
>Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server" ERROR.
>
>the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would
>just like to fix this issue
>
>
> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >To: 
> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server"
> >ERROR.
> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100
> >
> >Just to clear something up for you :)
> >
> >The server is free and people "sell" servers for their own profit,
> >not Valves.
> >Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something

> >Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who

> >currupt them.
> >
> >I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems?
> >
> >-Alex
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
> >Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38
> >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >server" ERROR.
> >
> >I am helping irv with this problem.  I have to say He left out alot
> >of information.
> >I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off.  We can sell server
> >and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all.
> >I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing
> >list said to run prime95.  Which we have with no errors.
> >
> >Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info.  On a
> >side
>
> >not Alferd has not replyed for some reason.
> >
> >
>
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RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Stuart Stegall
Then it is a hardware or routing issue. Since you have eliminated the
Windows install, and we all know a new source/hl1 install works just fine.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:44 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.

alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also
know there is no virus!


>From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: 
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100
>
>Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
>Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server" ERROR.
>
>the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would
>just like to fix this issue
>
>
> >From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >To: 
> >Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server"
> >ERROR.
> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100
> >
> >Just to clear something up for you :)
> >
> >The server is free and people "sell" servers for their own profit,
> >not Valves.
> >Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something
> >Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who
> >currupt them.
> >
> >I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems?
> >
> >-Alex
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
> >Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38
> >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> >server" ERROR.
> >
> >I am helping irv with this problem.  I have to say He left out alot
> >of information.
> >I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off.  We can sell server
> >and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all.
> >I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing
> >list said to run prime95.  Which we have with no errors.
> >
> >Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info.  On a
> >side
>
> >not Alferd has not replyed for some reason.
> >
> >
>
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RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread irv carlson

alot of people say it is a virus it is not it was a fresh install of
server2000 5 hours in and new ip's so we know we were not hacked and we also
know there is no virus!



From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:46:13 +0100

Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would
just like to fix this issue


>From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: 
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100
>
>Just to clear something up for you :)
>
>The server is free and people "sell" servers for their own profit, not
>Valves.
>Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something
>Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who
>currupt them.
>
>I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems?
>
>-Alex
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
>Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server" ERROR.
>
>I am helping irv with this problem.  I have to say He left out alot of
>information.
>I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off.  We can sell server
>and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all.
>I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list
>said to run prime95.  Which we have with no errors.
>
>Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info.  On a side

>not Alferd has not replyed for some reason.
>
>

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RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Alexander Kobbevik
Then start answering some of the questions people are asking you.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irv carlson
Sent: 15. februar 2006 17:02
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would
just like to fix this issue


>From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>To: 
>Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server"
>ERROR.
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100
>
>Just to clear something up for you :)
>
>The server is free and people "sell" servers for their own profit, not
>Valves.
>Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something
>Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who
>currupt them.
>
>I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems?
>
>-Alex
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
>Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38
>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
>server" ERROR.
>
>I am helping irv with this problem.  I have to say He left out alot of
>information.
>I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off.  We can sell server
>and we can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all.
>I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list
>said to run prime95.  Which we have with no errors.
>
>Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info.  On a side

>not Alferd has not replyed for some reason.
>
>

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RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread irv carlson

the main thing this is for our clan servers not to make money we would just
like to fix this issue



From: "Alexander Kobbevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:45:19 +0100

Just to clear something up for you :)

The server is free and people "sell" servers for their own profit, not
Valves.
Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something
Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who
currupt them.

I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems?

-Alex

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

I am helping irv with this problem.  I have to say He left out alot of
information.
I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off.  We can sell server and
we
can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all.
I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list
said
to run prime95.  Which we have with no errors.

Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info.  On a side
not
Alferd has not replyed for some reason.


Alfred please help

We are in need of help to solve a on going problem with "server side"
map
differs errors.
When clients connect to any of our 1U servers they will get Map differs
errors on the stock maps. This error happens on stock source css, 1.6,
and
Source DOD maps. We have a OZ server running for the last week that has
had
no issues as of this writing.



Here are the server specs.
Server 2
dual amd 2400+ mps
Tyan mb
2 gig ecc pc 2100
2 sata 1 rmp Raptors 36Gb raid 0
win 2000

Server 1
dual amd 2400+ mps
Tyan mb
2 gig ecc pc 2100
2 IDE 7200 rmp 40 gig
Fedora core 4


At one time both servers were exactly the same,(same as Server 1 but
with
windows installed)

We thought it might be a hard drive issue so we upgraded Server 2 with
new
Raptor 36 gig hard drives/raid 0 and installed Fedora on server 1 hoping
to
elimante it from being a Windows OS problem. After the upgrade to this
1U we
ran Memtest for 14 hours and a 2nd session of 6 hours with no errors, we
also ran Prime95 over night with no errors.
Within 5 hours of the fresh server 2000 install/hard drives on server 2
the
stock maps
started to differ, the other 1U(server 1) ran for almost 2 weeks on
stock
Source CSS
maps before having this problem and it gets worse every day.
Again this same problem happens on both 1U boxs to stock .bsp files and
a
few .wav files on the Linux box, all verified by the hlds tool/verify
all
command
The Source CSS server`s "map differs" errors is 4 to 1 to the 1.6 server
We
have also noticed that the .bsp that differ are haveing the md5
hash/check
sum changed.  However we can not find what is changing them.  The only
way
to fix them is to run the hldsupdatetool with -verify_all and have it
redownload the stock maps and then they work. We need to run the hlds
tool
about every 4 hours or less.



This is my plea Help us
I will run any program you suggest or give you complete access to one or
both boxs if this problem interests you at all.
Thanks

From: "irv carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:59 PM
Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.


The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we
run in
no recognizable pattern.

We have had this annoying problem for a long long time on 2 1U boxs we
use
to run CSS, DOD and CS servers on. I do not know if its a Steam issue or
a
OS issue of some sort. This has nothing to do with the client side
files,
FTP programs or the Bz2 files hosted for downloading on a separate
website
so please do not even bring it up.
We have a fresh install of Server 2000 as a set of new HD`s were just
added.
All the server files were downloaded directly from Steam with the
hldsupdatetool and a NEW "STOCK" Source server was setup and running.
There
was no FTP program installed or used for these files.
We decide to test the server with the stock install as we hoped we had
corrected the issue on this box, but it was not running more than 5
hours
when we started getting "Your Map any_stockmap differs from the server"
Out
of the 17 Stock maps 8 of them were then updated by hldsupdatetool with
"update -game "Counter-Strike Source" -dir D:\CSS\AnB -verify_all
-retry"
command to fix the problem as we have done this so many times before.
On Custom Map differs we delete and upload to the server again. This can
happen on a daily basis to any maps or just the same one for 

Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-15 Thread Ian mu
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Out of interest, next time you get a map file differ error, check the modify
date on it and see if its changed since your last "clean" update if that
makes sense. Just might give an idea if its something is changing it or
getting corrupt. It does sound like something on your machine as opposed to
a valve issue though if each time a verify_all detects your file has changed
in the meantime. Naturally check ftp logs, event log etc etc as well.

On 2/15/06, Alexander Kobbevik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Just to clear something up for you :)
>
> The server is free and people "sell" servers for their own profit, not
> Valves.
> Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something
> Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who
> currupt them.
>
> I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems?
>
> -Alex
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
> Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
> server" ERROR.
>
> I am helping irv with this problem.  I have to say He left out alot of
> information.
> I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off.  We can sell server and
> we
> can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all.
> I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list
> said
> to run prime95.  Which we have with no errors.
>
> Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info.  On a side
> not
> Alferd has not replyed for some reason.
>
>
> Alfred please help
>
> We are in need of help to solve a on going problem with "server side"
> map
> differs errors.
> When clients connect to any of our 1U servers they will get Map differs
> errors on the stock maps. This error happens on stock source css, 1.6,
> and
> Source DOD maps. We have a OZ server running for the last week that has
> had
> no issues as of this writing.
>
>
>
> Here are the server specs.
> Server 2
> dual amd 2400+ mps
> Tyan mb
> 2 gig ecc pc 2100
> 2 sata 1 rmp Raptors 36Gb raid 0
> win 2000
>
> Server 1
> dual amd 2400+ mps
> Tyan mb
> 2 gig ecc pc 2100
> 2 IDE 7200 rmp 40 gig
> Fedora core 4
>
>
> At one time both servers were exactly the same,(same as Server 1 but
> with
> windows installed)
>
> We thought it might be a hard drive issue so we upgraded Server 2 with
> new
> Raptor 36 gig hard drives/raid 0 and installed Fedora on server 1 hoping
> to
> elimante it from being a Windows OS problem. After the upgrade to this
> 1U we
> ran Memtest for 14 hours and a 2nd session of 6 hours with no errors, we
> also ran Prime95 over night with no errors.
> Within 5 hours of the fresh server 2000 install/hard drives on server 2
> the
> stock maps
> started to differ, the other 1U(server 1) ran for almost 2 weeks on
> stock
> Source CSS
> maps before having this problem and it gets worse every day.
> Again this same problem happens on both 1U boxs to stock .bsp files and
> a
> few .wav files on the Linux box, all verified by the hlds tool/verify
> all
> command
> The Source CSS server`s "map differs" errors is 4 to 1 to the 1.6 server
> We
> have also noticed that the .bsp that differ are haveing the md5
> hash/check
> sum changed.  However we can not find what is changing them.  The only
> way
> to fix them is to run the hldsupdatetool with -verify_all and have it
> redownload the stock maps and then they work. We need to run the hlds
> tool
> about every 4 hours or less.
>
>
>
> This is my plea Help us
> I will run any program you suggest or give you complete access to one or
> both boxs if this problem interests you at all.
> Thanks
>
> From: "irv carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:59 PM
> Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
> ERROR.
>
>
> The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
> It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we
> run in
> no recognizable pattern.
>
> We have had this annoying problem for a long long time on 2 1U boxs we
> use
> to run CSS, DOD and CS servers on. I do not know if its a Steam issue or
> a
> OS issue of some sort. This has nothing to do with the client side
> files,
> FTP programs or the Bz2 files hosted for downloading on a separate
> website
> so please do not even bring it up.
> We have a fresh install of Se

RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-14 Thread Alexander Kobbevik
Just to clear something up for you :)

The server is free and people "sell" servers for their own profit, not
Valves.
Why files on your server is getting currupted is not really something
Alfred should worry about unless it's the engine or updateservers who
currupt them.

I presume you have a firewall and antivirus on your systems?

-Alex

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Munra -hlds
Sent: 15. februar 2006 04:38
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the
server" ERROR.

I am helping irv with this problem.  I have to say He left out alot of
information.
I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off.  We can sell server and
we
can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all.
I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list
said
to run prime95.  Which we have with no errors.

Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info.  On a side
not
Alferd has not replyed for some reason.


Alfred please help

We are in need of help to solve a on going problem with "server side"
map
differs errors.
When clients connect to any of our 1U servers they will get Map differs
errors on the stock maps. This error happens on stock source css, 1.6,
and
Source DOD maps. We have a OZ server running for the last week that has
had
no issues as of this writing.



Here are the server specs.
Server 2
dual amd 2400+ mps
Tyan mb
2 gig ecc pc 2100
2 sata 1 rmp Raptors 36Gb raid 0
win 2000

Server 1
dual amd 2400+ mps
Tyan mb
2 gig ecc pc 2100
2 IDE 7200 rmp 40 gig
Fedora core 4


At one time both servers were exactly the same,(same as Server 1 but
with
windows installed)

We thought it might be a hard drive issue so we upgraded Server 2 with
new
Raptor 36 gig hard drives/raid 0 and installed Fedora on server 1 hoping
to
elimante it from being a Windows OS problem. After the upgrade to this
1U we
ran Memtest for 14 hours and a 2nd session of 6 hours with no errors, we
also ran Prime95 over night with no errors.
Within 5 hours of the fresh server 2000 install/hard drives on server 2
the
stock maps
started to differ, the other 1U(server 1) ran for almost 2 weeks on
stock
Source CSS
maps before having this problem and it gets worse every day.
Again this same problem happens on both 1U boxs to stock .bsp files and
a
few .wav files on the Linux box, all verified by the hlds tool/verify
all
command
The Source CSS server`s "map differs" errors is 4 to 1 to the 1.6 server
We
have also noticed that the .bsp that differ are haveing the md5
hash/check
sum changed.  However we can not find what is changing them.  The only
way
to fix them is to run the hldsupdatetool with -verify_all and have it
redownload the stock maps and then they work. We need to run the hlds
tool
about every 4 hours or less.



This is my plea Help us
I will run any program you suggest or give you complete access to one or
both boxs if this problem interests you at all.
Thanks

From: "irv carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:59 PM
Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.


The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we
run in
no recognizable pattern.

We have had this annoying problem for a long long time on 2 1U boxs we
use
to run CSS, DOD and CS servers on. I do not know if its a Steam issue or
a
OS issue of some sort. This has nothing to do with the client side
files,
FTP programs or the Bz2 files hosted for downloading on a separate
website
so please do not even bring it up.
We have a fresh install of Server 2000 as a set of new HD`s were just
added.
All the server files were downloaded directly from Steam with the
hldsupdatetool and a NEW "STOCK" Source server was setup and running.
There
was no FTP program installed or used for these files.
We decide to test the server with the stock install as we hoped we had
corrected the issue on this box, but it was not running more than 5
hours
when we started getting "Your Map any_stockmap differs from the server"
Out
of the 17 Stock maps 8 of them were then updated by hldsupdatetool with
"update -game "Counter-Strike Source" -dir D:\CSS\AnB -verify_all
-retry"
command to fix the problem as we have done this so many times before.
On Custom Map differs we delete and upload to the server again. This can
happen on a daily basis to any maps or just the same one for a while and
some times can go a week or so with out happening.
At about 6:30 pm this evening on the last differ of "de_dust" we deleted
a
members client gfc contenet and then updated, connected to the server
and
still had a differ problem.
I do not know if it`s an issue with our 1U`s as they were identical up
to
the fresh OS i

Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-14 Thread Munra -hlds

I am helping irv with this problem.  I have to say He left out alot of
information.
I have to Say this problem really Pisses me off.  We can sell server and we
can't even run clan servers will not help from valve at all.
I sent Alferd an e-mail he told me to run memtest and the mailing list said
to run prime95.  Which we have with no errors.

Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Alferd with More info.  On a side not
Alferd has not replyed for some reason.


Alfred please help

We are in need of help to solve a on going problem with "server side" map
differs errors.
When clients connect to any of our 1U servers they will get Map differs
errors on the stock maps. This error happens on stock source css, 1.6, and
Source DOD maps. We have a OZ server running for the last week that has had
no issues as of this writing.



Here are the server specs.
Server 2
dual amd 2400+ mps
Tyan mb
2 gig ecc pc 2100
2 sata 1 rmp Raptors 36Gb raid 0
win 2000

Server 1
dual amd 2400+ mps
Tyan mb
2 gig ecc pc 2100
2 IDE 7200 rmp 40 gig
Fedora core 4


At one time both servers were exactly the same,(same as Server 1 but with
windows installed)

We thought it might be a hard drive issue so we upgraded Server 2 with new
Raptor 36 gig hard drives/raid 0 and installed Fedora on server 1 hoping to
elimante it from being a Windows OS problem. After the upgrade to this 1U we
ran Memtest for 14 hours and a 2nd session of 6 hours with no errors, we
also ran Prime95 over night with no errors.
Within 5 hours of the fresh server 2000 install/hard drives on server 2 the
stock maps
started to differ, the other 1U(server 1) ran for almost 2 weeks on stock
Source CSS
maps before having this problem and it gets worse every day.
Again this same problem happens on both 1U boxs to stock .bsp files and a
few .wav files on the Linux box, all verified by the hlds tool/verify all
command
The Source CSS server`s "map differs" errors is 4 to 1 to the 1.6 server  We
have also noticed that the .bsp that differ are haveing the md5 hash/check
sum changed.  However we can not find what is changing them.  The only way
to fix them is to run the hldsupdatetool with -verify_all and have it
redownload the stock maps and then they work. We need to run the hlds tool
about every 4 hours or less.



This is my plea Help us
I will run any program you suggest or give you complete access to one or
both boxs if this problem interests you at all.
Thanks

From: "irv carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:59 PM
Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.


The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in
no recognizable pattern.

We have had this annoying problem for a long long time on 2 1U boxs we use
to run CSS, DOD and CS servers on. I do not know if its a Steam issue or a
OS issue of some sort. This has nothing to do with the client side files,
FTP programs or the Bz2 files hosted for downloading on a separate website
so please do not even bring it up.
We have a fresh install of Server 2000 as a set of new HD`s were just added.
All the server files were downloaded directly from Steam with the
hldsupdatetool and a NEW "STOCK" Source server was setup and running. There
was no FTP program installed or used for these files.
We decide to test the server with the stock install as we hoped we had
corrected the issue on this box, but it was not running more than 5 hours
when we started getting "Your Map any_stockmap differs from the server" Out
of the 17 Stock maps 8 of them were then updated by hldsupdatetool with
"update -game "Counter-Strike Source" -dir D:\CSS\AnB -verify_all -retry"
command to fix the problem as we have done this so many times before.
On Custom Map differs we delete and upload to the server again. This can
happen on a daily basis to any maps or just the same one for a while and
some times can go a week or so with out happening.
At about 6:30 pm this evening on the last differ of "de_dust" we deleted a
members client gfc contenet and then updated, connected to the server and
still had a differ problem.
I do not know if it`s an issue with our 1U`s as they were identical up to
the fresh OS install and adding new HD`s to 1 of them.
Both have Dual 2400`s Tyan Mobos, 2 GB ECC ram and run Server 2000
1 has Dual 7200RPM IDE
1 has Dual 1RPM SATA

I am hoping someone you has had this same problem will be able to provide a
definitive answer for this so I am offering a finders fee of $50.00 dollars
sent via PayPal or Western Union to the first person who supplys me with a
solution on how to fix this very annoying problem. I will consider it
money well spent!

I have gone thru a good number of Search topics to know we are not the only
server with this problem and as I am not a subscriber to the Linux list I do
not know if they also have "map differs" issue`s. If they do not suffer from
these same problems a 

Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-14 Thread irv carlson

205.234.249.66 for source



From: "Kevin Ottalini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: 
Subject: Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:25:59 -0800

What is the server IP address?

- Original Message -
From: "irv carlson"
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.


The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run
in
no recognizable pattern.

We have had this annoying problem for a long long time on 2 1U boxs we use
to run CSS, DOD and CS servers on. I do not know if its a Steam issue or a
OS issue of some sort. This has nothing to do with the client side files,
FTP programs or the Bz2 files hosted for downloading on a separate website
so please do not even bring it up.
We have a fresh install of Server 2000 as a set of new HD`s were just
added.
All the server files were downloaded directly from Steam with the
hldsupdatetool and a NEW "STOCK" Source server was setup and running. There
was no FTP program installed or used for these files.
We decide to test the server with the stock install as we hoped we had
corrected the issue on this box, but it was not running more than 5 hours
when we started getting "Your Map any_stockmap differs from the server" Out
of the 17 Stock maps 8 of them were then updated by hldsupdatetool with
"update -game "Counter-Strike Source" -dir D:\CSS\AnB -verify_all -retry"
command to fix the problem as we have done this so many times before.
On Custom Map differs we delete and upload to the server again. This can
happen on a daily basis to any maps or just the same one for a while and
some times can go a week or so with out happening.
At about 6:30 pm this evening on the last differ of "de_dust" we deleted a
members client gfc contenet and then updated, connected to the server and
still had a differ problem.
I do not know if it`s an issue with our 1U`s as they were identical up to
the fresh OS install and adding new HD`s to 1 of them.
Both have Dual 2400`s Tyan Mobos, 2 GB ECC ram and run Server 2000
1 has Dual 7200RPM IDE
1 has Dual 1RPM SATA

I am hoping someone you has had this same problem will be able to provide a
definitive answer for this so I am offering a finders fee of $50.00 dollars
sent via PayPal or Western Union to the first person who supplys me with a
solution on how to fix this very annoying problem. I will consider it
money well spent!

I have gone thru a good number of Search topics to know we are not the only
server with this problem and as I am not a subscriber to the Linux list I
do
not know if they also have "map differs" issue`s. If they do not suffer
from
these same problems a change of OS may have to be considered.
we know it is not client side it is the server changing the files every few
hours i have $6000 in these two boxes please help i thought i would ask the
brains of the operation like i said please help

Ok we thought it was a ram issue not the case we still have the problem
this
is the specs of the APPRO 1U Dual AMD Athlon MP IDE Server
Tyan S2469NG Thunder K7 IDE motherboard
350W PFC Power Supply
8MB Video and Dual NIC (1-10/100 & 1-Gigabit) onboard
64bit/66MHz PCI Riser Included
Dual (2x) AMD Athlon 2400+ MP
2GB (4x512MB) PC2100 Registered ECC DDR RAM
2x Internal Seagate EIDE, 40GB, 7200RPM
Running Server 2000 all updates are up to date
this has been an ongoing problem from day one the stock maps for
DoD,source,CStrike 1.6 the only server that the maps don’t differ is OZ our
last resort is to change the mother board and cpu's that is all that is
left
to change
five of us are trying to fix this problem and we have been at all of the
links you sent me and tryed everything they said and same result



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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-14 Thread Kevin Ottalini

What is the server IP address?

- Original Message -
From: "irv carlson"
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.


The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run in
no recognizable pattern.

We have had this annoying problem for a long long time on 2 1U boxs we use
to run CSS, DOD and CS servers on. I do not know if its a Steam issue or a
OS issue of some sort. This has nothing to do with the client side files,
FTP programs or the Bz2 files hosted for downloading on a separate website
so please do not even bring it up.
We have a fresh install of Server 2000 as a set of new HD`s were just added.
All the server files were downloaded directly from Steam with the
hldsupdatetool and a NEW "STOCK" Source server was setup and running. There
was no FTP program installed or used for these files.
We decide to test the server with the stock install as we hoped we had
corrected the issue on this box, but it was not running more than 5 hours
when we started getting "Your Map any_stockmap differs from the server" Out
of the 17 Stock maps 8 of them were then updated by hldsupdatetool with
"update -game "Counter-Strike Source" -dir D:\CSS\AnB -verify_all -retry"
command to fix the problem as we have done this so many times before.
On Custom Map differs we delete and upload to the server again. This can
happen on a daily basis to any maps or just the same one for a while and
some times can go a week or so with out happening.
At about 6:30 pm this evening on the last differ of "de_dust" we deleted a
members client gfc contenet and then updated, connected to the server and
still had a differ problem.
I do not know if it`s an issue with our 1U`s as they were identical up to
the fresh OS install and adding new HD`s to 1 of them.
Both have Dual 2400`s Tyan Mobos, 2 GB ECC ram and run Server 2000
1 has Dual 7200RPM IDE
1 has Dual 1RPM SATA

I am hoping someone you has had this same problem will be able to provide a
definitive answer for this so I am offering a finders fee of $50.00 dollars
sent via PayPal or Western Union to the first person who supplys me with a
solution on how to fix this very annoying problem. I will consider it
money well spent!

I have gone thru a good number of Search topics to know we are not the only
server with this problem and as I am not a subscriber to the Linux list I do
not know if they also have "map differs" issue`s. If they do not suffer from
these same problems a change of OS may have to be considered.
we know it is not client side it is the server changing the files every few
hours i have $6000 in these two boxes please help i thought i would ask the
brains of the operation like i said please help

Ok we thought it was a ram issue not the case we still have the problem this
is the specs of the APPRO 1U Dual AMD Athlon MP IDE Server
Tyan S2469NG Thunder K7 IDE motherboard
350W PFC Power Supply
8MB Video and Dual NIC (1-10/100 & 1-Gigabit) onboard
64bit/66MHz PCI Riser Included
Dual (2x) AMD Athlon 2400+ MP
2GB (4x512MB) PC2100 Registered ECC DDR RAM
2x Internal Seagate EIDE, 40GB, 7200RPM
Running Server 2000 all updates are up to date
this has been an ongoing problem from day one the stock maps for
DoD,source,CStrike 1.6 the only server that the maps don’t differ is OZ our
last resort is to change the mother board and cpu's that is all that is left
to change
five of us are trying to fix this problem and we have been at all of the
links you sent me and tryed everything they said and same result



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Re: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-14 Thread MOFCLAN.NET :: Bush

No need to reply to your own mail with the same message. Everyone got the
message already, no real need to post twice.

Thanks.
- Original Message -
From: "irv carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:10 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.






From: "irv carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:59:29 +

The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run
in
no recognizable pattern.

We have had this annoying problem for a long long time on 2 1U boxs we use
to run CSS, DOD and CS servers on. I do not know if its a Steam issue or a
OS issue of some sort. This has nothing to do with the client side files,
FTP programs or the Bz2 files hosted for downloading on a separate website
so please do not even bring it up.
We have a fresh install of Server 2000 as a set of new HD`s were just
added.
All the server files were downloaded directly from Steam with the
hldsupdatetool and a NEW "STOCK" Source server was setup and running. There
was no FTP program installed or used for these files.
We decide to test the server with the stock install as we hoped we had
corrected the issue on this box, but it was not running more than 5 hours
when we started getting "Your Map any_stockmap differs from the server" Out
of the 17 Stock maps 8 of them were then updated by hldsupdatetool with
"update -game "Counter-Strike Source" -dir D:\CSS\AnB -verify_all -retry"
command to fix the problem as we have done this so many times before.
On Custom Map differs we delete and upload to the server again. This can
happen on a daily basis to any maps or just the same one for a while and
some times can go a week or so with out happening.
At about 6:30 pm this evening on the last differ of "de_dust" we deleted a
members client gfc contenet and then updated, connected to the server and
still had a differ problem.
I do not know if it`s an issue with our 1U`s as they were identical up to
the fresh OS install and adding new HD`s to 1 of them.
Both have Dual 2400`s Tyan Mobos, 2 GB ECC ram and run Server 2000
1 has Dual 7200RPM IDE
1 has Dual 1RPM SATA

I am hoping someone you has had this same problem will be able to provide a
definitive answer for this so I am offering a finders fee of $50.00 dollars
sent via PayPal or Western Union to the first person who supplys me with a
solution on how to fix this very annoying problem. I will consider it
money well spent!

I have gone thru a good number of Search topics to know we are not the only
server with this problem and as I am not a subscriber to the Linux list I
do
not know if they also have "map differs" issue`s. If they do not suffer
from
these same problems a change of OS may have to be considered.
we know it is not client side it is the server changing the files every few
hours i have $6000 in these two boxes please help i thought i would ask the
brains of the operation like i said please help

Ok we thought it was a ram issue not the case we still have the problem
this
is the specs of the APPRO 1U Dual AMD Athlon MP IDE Server
Tyan S2469NG Thunder K7 IDE motherboard
350W PFC Power Supply
8MB Video and Dual NIC (1-10/100 & 1-Gigabit) onboard
64bit/66MHz PCI Riser Included
Dual (2x) AMD Athlon 2400+ MP
2GB (4x512MB) PC2100 Registered ECC DDR RAM
2x Internal Seagate EIDE, 40GB, 7200RPM
Running Server 2000 all updates are up to date
this has been an ongoing problem from day one the stock maps for
DoD,source,CStrike 1.6 the only server that the maps don't differ is OZ our
last resort is to change the mother board and cpu's that is all that is
left
to change
five of us are trying to fix this problem and we have been at all of the
links you sent me and tryed everything they said and same result



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RE: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.

2006-02-14 Thread irv carlson





From: "irv carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server"
ERROR.
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:59:29 +

The Famous "Your Map de_dust differs from the server" ERROR.
It happens with all stock or at one time or another any custom map we run
in
no recognizable pattern.

We have had this annoying problem for a long long time on 2 1U boxs we use
to run CSS, DOD and CS servers on. I do not know if its a Steam issue or a
OS issue of some sort. This has nothing to do with the client side files,
FTP programs or the Bz2 files hosted for downloading on a separate website
so please do not even bring it up.
We have a fresh install of Server 2000 as a set of new HD`s were just
added.
All the server files were downloaded directly from Steam with the
hldsupdatetool and a NEW "STOCK" Source server was setup and running. There
was no FTP program installed or used for these files.
We decide to test the server with the stock install as we hoped we had
corrected the issue on this box, but it was not running more than 5 hours
when we started getting "Your Map any_stockmap differs from the server" Out
of the 17 Stock maps 8 of them were then updated by hldsupdatetool with
"update -game "Counter-Strike Source" -dir D:\CSS\AnB -verify_all -retry"
command to fix the problem as we have done this so many times before.
On Custom Map differs we delete and upload to the server again. This can
happen on a daily basis to any maps or just the same one for a while and
some times can go a week or so with out happening.
At about 6:30 pm this evening on the last differ of "de_dust" we deleted a
members client gfc contenet and then updated, connected to the server and
still had a differ problem.
I do not know if it`s an issue with our 1U`s as they were identical up to
the fresh OS install and adding new HD`s to 1 of them.
Both have Dual 2400`s Tyan Mobos, 2 GB ECC ram and run Server 2000
1 has Dual 7200RPM IDE
1 has Dual 1RPM SATA

I am hoping someone you has had this same problem will be able to provide a
definitive answer for this so I am offering a finders fee of $50.00 dollars
sent via PayPal or Western Union to the first person who supplys me with a
solution on how to fix this very annoying problem. I will consider it
money well spent!

I have gone thru a good number of Search topics to know we are not the only
server with this problem and as I am not a subscriber to the Linux list I
do
not know if they also have "map differs" issue`s. If they do not suffer
from
these same problems a change of OS may have to be considered.
we know it is not client side it is the server changing the files every few
hours i have $6000 in these two boxes please help i thought i would ask the
brains of the operation like i said please help

Ok we thought it was a ram issue not the case we still have the problem
this
is the specs of the APPRO 1U Dual AMD Athlon MP IDE Server
Tyan S2469NG Thunder K7 IDE motherboard
350W PFC Power Supply
8MB Video and Dual NIC (1-10/100 & 1-Gigabit) onboard
64bit/66MHz PCI Riser Included
Dual (2x) AMD Athlon 2400+ MP
2GB (4x512MB) PC2100 Registered ECC DDR RAM
2x Internal Seagate EIDE, 40GB, 7200RPM
Running Server 2000 all updates are up to date
this has been an ongoing problem from day one the stock maps for
DoD,source,CStrike 1.6 the only server that the maps don’t differ is OZ our
last resort is to change the mother board and cpu's that is all that is
left
to change
five of us are trying to fix this problem and we have been at all of the
links you sent me and tryed everything they said and same result



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