Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] On 25/07/06, Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If a kernel change fixed it, it's probably not as much a valve issue > than the rather.. Linux tends to change it's VM etc per every > release, so I'm not surprised. > > I would tend to agree if however one day my servers were fine then after the valve update and no server side updates the CPU usage increased dramatically! -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
If a kernel change fixed it, it's probably not as much a valve issue than the rather.. Linux tends to change it's VM etc per every release, so I'm not surprised. At 11:04 PM 7/24/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings For everyone else who was affected by this problem some time ago: Changing the OS from Suse 10.0 to 10.1 (which has a nice and new kernel) solved it for me. I don't know how much cpu I would use with v29, but the cpu usage is so low now, that I can even run v35 without problems. And since valve wasn't very interested in fixing this bug anyway.. just update your kernel to the newest stable version, install a newer Version of your OS, or another OS. As said, Suse 10.1 works nice for me. bye ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
Greetings For everyone else who was affected by this problem some time ago: Changing the OS from Suse 10.0 to 10.1 (which has a nice and new kernel) solved it for me. I don't know how much cpu I would use with v29, but the cpu usage is so low now, that I can even run v35 without problems. And since valve wasn't very interested in fixing this bug anyway.. just update your kernel to the newest stable version, install a newer Version of your OS, or another OS. As said, Suse 10.1 works nice for me. bye ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Greetings I'm really running out of Ideas on this problem. Me too... we have backroll to v1.1.2.5/Stdio 3327 seems to be fine. No more lags, cpu usage for a 20 slot server 13% with metamod-p, amxx and 63 plugins running. Xcept the various Steam-ID switchin and meanwhile starting insecure server. It's shame about Valve, but...everyone knows... They should take the whole project to EPIC... They know, what they do... -- When you go me on the Nerven, i'll put you into a Gully, do the Deckel druff and you never come back to the Tageslicht! MfG Telepath ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
Greetings I'm really running out of Ideas on this problem. Even tried to disable Metamod & all Plugins completely, with the result that the v35 Server will still use alot more CPU. Your turn Valve. Offtopic: I can confirm the Source DS problem Rikard Bremark wrote about. Exactly the same here. Looks like Valve isnt doing alot of quality work these days.. cheers SecurityFox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
Evaldas Zilinskas wrote: I don't know how much it will help you, but today I reinstalled kernel on my SuSe 9.1 from kernel-default to kernel-smp (Just a test, to check if HT support on my P4 will help). And guess what? Now with 32 slot HLDS running de_aztec I get only 40-50% CPU usage. A drop by ~ half. But, now Linux detects my CPU with HT like 2 CPUs. It will probably use 100% of 1 virtual CPU and 0% of the other virtual CPU, on average that makes 50% ;) But the CPU usage is not really the big deal, we're only seeing that on some servers. The bigger deal is that since the update the server performance seems to be more unstable, especially with pingboosted servers. -- Mike Noordermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
I don't know how much it will help you, but today I reinstalled kernel on my SuSe 9.1 from kernel-default to kernel-smp (Just a test, to check if HT support on my P4 will help). And guess what? Now with 32 slot HLDS running de_aztec I get only 40-50% CPU usage. A drop by ~ half. But, now Linux detects my CPU with HT like 2 CPUs. - Original Message - From: "Mike Noordermeer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35 Rikard Bremark wrote: well i just found it kinda strange that HLDS had boosted in cpu usage when i havent seen any topic of it on steampowered.com's forum. and our 6 servers is just like they should. but we are running 32bit kernel instead of 64. The issue has been on this list for a while, but Valve has yet to comment on it. It's on the forums too, at http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=414765 for example. -- Mike Noordermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
Rikard Bremark wrote: well i just found it kinda strange that HLDS had boosted in cpu usage when i havent seen any topic of it on steampowered.com's forum. and our 6 servers is just like they should. but we are running 32bit kernel instead of 64. The issue has been on this list for a while, but Valve has yet to comment on it. It's on the forums too, at http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=414765 for example. -- Mike Noordermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] well i just found it kinda strange that HLDS had boosted in cpu usage when i havent seen any topic of it on steampowered.com's forum. and our 6 servers is just like they should. but we are running 32bit kernel instead of 64. -- //Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warzone Short Valley - Warzone.nu Mike Noordermeer wrote: > Rikard Bremark wrote: >> HLDS or SRCDS? > > HLDS like mentioned in the Subject and 3 times in the body :) > > -- > Mike Noordermeer > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
Rikard Bremark wrote: HLDS or SRCDS? HLDS like mentioned in the Subject and 3 times in the body :) -- Mike Noordermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] HLDS or SRCDS? we got no problems with HLDS since the last update, what we have is some serius problems with srcds, choke and loss almost the whole time running dual opt 2.2 ghz 1 gb ram 2x20 slots srcds server, closing one of them dosnt help. -- //Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warzone Short Valley - Warzone.nu Mike Noordermeer wrote: > Hi, > >> It would be nice if all People experiencing this Problem could post >> their complete Server Data. > > We're experiencing some weird issues here too, on multiple boxes running > multiple Linux versions. All AMD Opteron with Gentoo 64 bit or Ubuntu 64 > bit here. We're noticing an increasing number of complaints about lag > and see higher CPU usage on some servers. The exact source of the > problems is not clear atm, but it really seems to be related to the > latest HLDS upgrade. > > It would be nice if Alfred could comment on the changes made in the last > HLDS upgrade and could tell us if they can affect the performance of the > HLDS negatively. > > -- > Mike Noordermeer > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
Hi, It would be nice if all People experiencing this Problem could post their complete Server Data. We're experiencing some weird issues here too, on multiple boxes running multiple Linux versions. All AMD Opteron with Gentoo 64 bit or Ubuntu 64 bit here. We're noticing an increasing number of complaints about lag and see higher CPU usage on some servers. The exact source of the problems is not clear atm, but it really seems to be related to the latest HLDS upgrade. It would be nice if Alfred could comment on the changes made in the last HLDS upgrade and could tell us if they can affect the performance of the HLDS negatively. -- Mike Noordermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
Lots of STEAM_ID and VAC things were changed +some glibc. And... I do agree that CPU usage is unreal. 16 players on de_aztec causing 60% usage is bad, bad for my Pentium 3.GHz!! - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35 Greetings I've tried running v35 without Pingboost now, with the result, that it is absolutely no Pingboost problem. Running v35 without Pingboost with 24 Players - 100% Cpu. Running v29 without Pingboost with 24 Players 56% Cpu. It must be something else. Does anyone know what the changes were from v29 to 35, btw? cheers SecurityFox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
Greetings I've tried running v35 without Pingboost now, with the result, that it is absolutely no Pingboost problem. Running v35 without Pingboost with 24 Players - 100% Cpu. Running v29 without Pingboost with 24 Players 56% Cpu. It must be something else. Does anyone know what the changes were from v29 to 35, btw? cheers SecurityFox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Uniform test structure? (was Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35)
Heya all, I participated in the swapbeta test that Alfred had going during Valve's move from an IPC architecture to a event-driven architecture, in hopes of making everything perform unilaterally and cross-platform between the hlds_l and hlds_win32 binaries. Unfortunatly, my test set was quite hasty, and we did not test all the possible configurations of hlds_i386 on our systems, the majority of which being dual Intel Xeon 3.0ghz w/ HT, 2GB RAM and SCSI HDDs. Since the release of Engine v35, we've had enough reports of 'registry' problems that I was forced to make a backup 'last known good' copy of hlds, just in case we had anymore trouble. These troubles, again, seem to revolve around our pingboosted 32-bit setups, as those without pingboost seem to have no trouble with the newest release. How about instead of posting a set of specs, we go one step further and begin to propose ways to effectively prod the binaries, from not just the server-side perspective but the player-side as well, collect reports from players on these servers, get as much data as possible together to bundle up and send to Alfred, for him to sift through and see if he can find any correlations? DISCUSS! Or I'll just force a testing structure idea on everyone that I've been throwing around. :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes? Why shouldnt I? v35 takes 30-40% more CPU usage than v29 on my System. Its absolutely Valves fault, in not testing their upgrades enough, before releasing, not mine, in using Pingboost. Considering its not the case for the majority of people you are totally wrong. How about doing some investigation on the cause instead of all this me me me crap. This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
Yes? Why shouldnt I? v35 takes 30-40% more CPU usage than v29 on my System. Its absolutely Valves fault, in not testing their upgrades enough, before releasing, not mine, in using Pingboost. Ian mu schrieb: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ngghh pingboost 3 and posting on an issue on cpu usage? On 5/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Another possible Reason: Pingboost I'm using -pingboost 3 on my Server. Any other People, having Problems since v35 running Pingboost? And are you People that have no Problems running Pingboost too? If not, maybe you could try, to see if you get the same Problem? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ngghh pingboost 3 and posting on an issue on cpu usage? On 5/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Another possible Reason: Pingboost > I'm using -pingboost 3 on my Server. > > Any other People, having Problems since v35 running Pingboost? > And are you People that have no Problems running Pingboost too? If not, > maybe you could try, to see if you get the same Problem? > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
Another possible Reason: Pingboost I'm using -pingboost 3 on my Server. Any other People, having Problems since v35 running Pingboost? And are you People that have no Problems running Pingboost too? If not, maybe you could try, to see if you get the same Problem? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
Greetings Well, there are quite some People experiencing this Problem - just look at this thread: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=5697a103c4c1730e6384a469b239ecbc&threadid=414765&perpage=15&pagenumber=1 and all the People that already posted to the mailing list. There are alot of similar Threads in the Steampowered Forums. And that are only the People that noticed & reported it. I'm disappointed, that valve doesn't do anything about it, and leaves us users having this problem alone - thats what I have to think, as the valve people don't seem to care to tell if its beeing worked on this problem or not, or even answer. (Or did they? Don't want to say something wrong.) Sorry if I'm wrong. cheers SecurityFox Stuart Stegall schrieb: Actually, if the new OS is the same version using 32bit multilib, then you will just end up with the same version of the library. It could be a library issue or it could be a hardware issue. We just don't know. I believe overwhelmingly most people are not experiencing the problem. This suggests that is a commonality between those people who get the bug. I can say it's not an Intel vs AMD issue, It's not a multicore issue. It's not a HT issue. I run my hlds servers on RHEL4 and Gentoo current stable. All my machines are 2GB of RAM and top 3 speeds of Operton Single cores. They all use Fiber Channel to access a SAN that provides storage to all machines (or at least a big group of machines) in a Colocation Center. I do have some test machines with Dual core Opertons that are also using Gentoo stable + GCC4, a more customized kernel, and libc6 2.4. My test machines don't seem to have any special problems. I will say all the machines are 32bit userland/32bit kernels as the machines would occasionally crash in the fiber channel driver with a 64bit kernel. Steven Hartland wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings This Problem doesn't seem to be Operating System based. We switched our Server OS from Suse 10.0 64 bit to Debian 3.1 64 bit today, and the Problem of Engine v35 using 30-40% more CPU is still existant. So, its not OS based and not CPU based. (I remember Intel and AMD Users experiencing this Problem) Thats not a valid conclusion from trying one different platform. Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
Actually, if the new OS is the same version using 32bit multilib, then you will just end up with the same version of the library. It could be a library issue or it could be a hardware issue. We just don't know. I believe overwhelmingly most people are not experiencing the problem. This suggests that is a commonality between those people who get the bug. I can say it's not an Intel vs AMD issue, It's not a multicore issue. It's not a HT issue. I run my hlds servers on RHEL4 and Gentoo current stable. All my machines are 2GB of RAM and top 3 speeds of Operton Single cores. They all use Fiber Channel to access a SAN that provides storage to all machines (or at least a big group of machines) in a Colocation Center. I do have some test machines with Dual core Opertons that are also using Gentoo stable + GCC4, a more customized kernel, and libc6 2.4. My test machines don't seem to have any special problems. I will say all the machines are 32bit userland/32bit kernels as the machines would occasionally crash in the fiber channel driver with a 64bit kernel. Steven Hartland wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings This Problem doesn't seem to be Operating System based. We switched our Server OS from Suse 10.0 64 bit to Debian 3.1 64 bit today, and the Problem of Engine v35 using 30-40% more CPU is still existant. So, its not OS based and not CPU based. (I remember Intel and AMD Users experiencing this Problem) Thats not a valid conclusion from trying one different platform. Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings This Problem doesn't seem to be Operating System based. We switched our Server OS from Suse 10.0 64 bit to Debian 3.1 64 bit today, and the Problem of Engine v35 using 30-40% more CPU is still existant. So, its not OS based and not CPU based. (I remember Intel and AMD Users experiencing this Problem) Thats not a valid conclusion from trying one different platform. Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
Greetings This Problem doesn't seem to be Operating System based. We switched our Server OS from Suse 10.0 64 bit to Debian 3.1 64 bit today, and the Problem of Engine v35 using 30-40% more CPU is still existant. So, its not OS based and not CPU based. (I remember Intel and AMD Users experiencing this Problem) What else could it be? It would be nice if all People experiencing this Problem could post their complete Server Data. Here mine: Amd Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Dual Core 2 GB RAM 2x 160 GB SATA HDD Operating System: Debian 3.1 64 bit standard minimal image (Suse 10.0 before) Mod: HL1, Natural-Selection Slots: 32 - 30 Publicslots, 2 reserved. It would be very nice if some official Valve coworker could say a word or two regarding this Problem. Are you working on a Fix for this Problem yet? cheers SecurityFox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
I honestly expect it might be something OS related. Erik Hollensbe wrote: On Apr 25, 2006, at 8:02 PM, Erik Hollensbe wrote: Ok, everyone that's having the problem, paste the contents of /proc/ cpuinfo here. Just from the two responses already to this, it seems it's not CPU- related. -- Erik Hollensbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
On Apr 25, 2006, at 8:02 PM, Erik Hollensbe wrote: Ok, everyone that's having the problem, paste the contents of /proc/ cpuinfo here. Just from the two responses already to this, it seems it's not CPU- related. -- Erik Hollensbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
The 64bit hlds binaries have problems the most important of which is lack of VAC support. I do not run the 64bit version of any OS for game servers as running the process through linux32 seems to be slower than running with a standard 32bit kernel/libraries. (on the webhosting side we use 64bit OS for all our database servers as there is a big performance gain. for web servers it doesn't really seem to make much of a difference when you also use ssl accelerators) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'm running a Amd Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Dual Core with 2 gb ram. As OS I got Suse 10.0 in 64 bit mode. My HLDS is running in 32 bit mode though, as my mod doesn't has a 64 bit binary. Does our Problem maybe only happen on v.35 Servers running in 32 bit mode, and for ppl running in 64 bit mode everything is in Order? All People that have the same Problem, please post wheter you are running in 32 or 64 bit mode! Anyways, here my CPU Info: processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 43 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ stepping: 1 cpu MHz : 2199.835 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm cmp_legacy bogomips: 4410.49 TLB size: 1024 4K pages clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp processor : 1 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 43 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ stepping: 1 cpu MHz : 2199.835 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 1 cpu cores : 2 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm cmp_legacy bogomips: 4399.66 TLB size: 1024 4K pages clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp ** -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
erm we are all using steam applications??? From: Stuart Stegall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:41:04 -0500 I wish we could find what element all of the people with this issue have in common. (non SSE cpus, or HT enabled CPUs) There's probably some type of race condition that only occurs with some software or hardware difference. All my systems are Operton 250 or above, 2GB of RAM, FC access to a SAN, and my linux systems use either Gentoo or RHEL4. I totally get the exact same CPU performance from the current and the pre35 files. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For everyone having similar Problems, I found this Forum Thread: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=414765 Which contains a link to the latest working, non-monster cpu usage HLDS Version, before Engine update 35. It would be very nice to hear something official from valve regarding this Problem, too. Alfred maybe? When will there be a fix? cheers SecurityFox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'm running a Amd Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Dual Core with 2 gb ram. As OS I got Suse 10.0 in 64 bit mode. My HLDS is running in 32 bit mode though, as my mod doesn't has a 64 bit binary. Does our Problem maybe only happen on v.35 Servers running in 32 bit mode, and for ppl running in 64 bit mode everything is in Order? All People that have the same Problem, please post wheter you are running in 32 or 64 bit mode! Anyways, here my CPU Info: processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 43 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ stepping: 1 cpu MHz : 2199.835 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm cmp_legacy bogomips: 4410.49 TLB size: 1024 4K pages clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp processor : 1 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 43 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ stepping: 1 cpu MHz : 2199.835 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 1 cpu cores : 2 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm cmp_legacy bogomips: 4399.66 TLB size: 1024 4K pages clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp ** -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I've had problem with high CPU-usage ever since v29 got updated. Currently running on v29, I have learned to live with the STEAM_ID-bug. Here's my cpuinfo: processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 3 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping: 4 cpu MHz : 3002.033 cache size : 1024 KB fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 5 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl cid xtpr bogomips: 6006.52 /Mathias! On 4/26/06, Erik Hollensbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 25, 2006, at 7:41 PM, Stuart Stegall wrote: > > > I wish we could find what element all of the people with this issue > > have > > in common. (non SSE cpus, or HT enabled CPUs) There's probably some > > type of race condition that only occurs with some software or hardware > > difference. All my systems are Operton 250 or above, 2GB of RAM, FC > > access to a SAN, and my linux systems use either Gentoo or RHEL4. I > > totally get the exact same CPU performance from the current and the > > pre35 files. > > Ok, everyone that's having the problem, paste the contents of /proc/ > cpuinfo here. > > This won't be a security leak or anything - it's the information on > your CPU. If the sample set is varied enough, a full dmesg might be > in order, but this would be a good start. > > -- > Erik Hollensbe > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
On Apr 25, 2006, at 7:41 PM, Stuart Stegall wrote: I wish we could find what element all of the people with this issue have in common. (non SSE cpus, or HT enabled CPUs) There's probably some type of race condition that only occurs with some software or hardware difference. All my systems are Operton 250 or above, 2GB of RAM, FC access to a SAN, and my linux systems use either Gentoo or RHEL4. I totally get the exact same CPU performance from the current and the pre35 files. Ok, everyone that's having the problem, paste the contents of /proc/ cpuinfo here. This won't be a security leak or anything - it's the information on your CPU. If the sample set is varied enough, a full dmesg might be in order, but this would be a good start. -- Erik Hollensbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
I wish we could find what element all of the people with this issue have in common. (non SSE cpus, or HT enabled CPUs) There's probably some type of race condition that only occurs with some software or hardware difference. All my systems are Operton 250 or above, 2GB of RAM, FC access to a SAN, and my linux systems use either Gentoo or RHEL4. I totally get the exact same CPU performance from the current and the pre35 files. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For everyone having similar Problems, I found this Forum Thread: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=414765 Which contains a link to the latest working, non-monster cpu usage HLDS Version, before Engine update 35. It would be very nice to hear something official from valve regarding this Problem, too. Alfred maybe? When will there be a fix? cheers SecurityFox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
For everyone having similar Problems, I found this Forum Thread: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=414765 Which contains a link to the latest working, non-monster cpu usage HLDS Version, before Engine update 35. It would be very nice to hear something official from valve regarding this Problem, too. Alfred maybe? When will there be a fix? cheers SecurityFox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
Greetings So, when can we expect a fix for this Problem? I'm currently running the very old version v20 - great Performance, but as it is old, surely has some Bugs too. cheers SecurityFox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
That's very interesting. I can run 3-32slot hlds on one of the new 3ghz opertons that arrived yesterday. They are all maintaining 250fps. Evaldas Žilinskas wrote: True, my CS server's CPU usage is high too. Runing a 32slot server on 3GHz is almost inposible. You can uninstall all mods, but when there is at least 26 players, server's cpu usage grows up to 90%. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35 Greetings Since I upgraded my Natural-Selection Linux Server from 'Linux Server Engine' version 29 to 35, it takes very high CPU usage. Around 20-30% more than usual, so that I had to reduce the Serverslots from 32 to 20, as else the Pings increase about 300, up to 600 and higher. I'm 100% sure, that it is the Engine update 35, as I didnt change anything else on the Server since months - and before there were no problems. I run a Amd Athlon 3000+ with 1 GB Ram and Suse 9.3 with Kernel: "Linux linux 2.6.11.4-21.10-default #1 Tue Nov 29 14:32:49 UTC 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux" Its a rootserver and theres nothing else running on it. Unfortunaly I forgot to make an backup before I updated the Server, so it would be nice if you could tell me where I can dowload the older HLDS version 29, or lower, so I can downgrade till that problem is fixed. cheers SecurityFox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
True, my CS server's CPU usage is high too. Runing a 32slot server on 3GHz is almost inposible. You can uninstall all mods, but when there is at least 26 players, server's cpu usage grows up to 90%. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35 Greetings Since I upgraded my Natural-Selection Linux Server from 'Linux Server Engine' version 29 to 35, it takes very high CPU usage. Around 20-30% more than usual, so that I had to reduce the Serverslots from 32 to 20, as else the Pings increase about 300, up to 600 and higher. I'm 100% sure, that it is the Engine update 35, as I didnt change anything else on the Server since months - and before there were no problems. I run a Amd Athlon 3000+ with 1 GB Ram and Suse 9.3 with Kernel: "Linux linux 2.6.11.4-21.10-default #1 Tue Nov 29 14:32:49 UTC 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux" Its a rootserver and theres nothing else running on it. Unfortunaly I forgot to make an backup before I updated the Server, so it would be nice if you could tell me where I can dowload the older HLDS version 29, or lower, so I can downgrade till that problem is fixed. cheers SecurityFox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Yes, its absolutely not the mod, but the HLDS upgrade - I downgraded to Engine upgrade v20 now (was the newest-old one I could find), and we got no Problems - CPU usage normal. The Problems might also exist in HLDS upgrades between 29 and 35, but I don't know, as I upgraded from 29 to 35 directly. If someone hands me a link to older Upgrades, I can try them too. cheers SecurityFox Gus wrote: >Have you invesigated whether its the mod itself? Or is it Vanilla HL1? > > >-- > > >>Greetings >> >>Since I upgraded my Natural-Selection Linux Server from 'Linux Server >>Engine' version 29 to 35, it takes very high CPU usage. >>Around 20-30% more than usual, so that I had to reduce the Serverslots >> >> >>from 32 to 20, as else the Pings increase about 300, up to 600 and higher. > > >>I'm 100% sure, that it is the Engine update 35, as I didnt change >>anything else on the Server since months - and before there were no >>problems. >> >>I run a Amd Athlon 3000+ with 1 GB Ram and Suse 9.3 with Kernel: "Linux >>linux 2.6.11.4-21.10-default #1 Tue Nov 29 14:32:49 UTC 2005 i686 athlon >>i386 GNU/Linux" >>Its a rootserver and theres nothing else running on it. >> >>Unfortunaly I forgot to make an backup before I updated the Server, so >>it would be nice if you could tell me where I can dowload the older HLDS >>version 29, or lower, so I can downgrade till that problem is fixed. >> >>cheers >>SecurityFox >> >>___ >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please >>visit: >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> > > >___ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please >visit: >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
Have you invesigated whether its the mod itself? Or is it Vanilla HL1? -- >Greetings > >Since I upgraded my Natural-Selection Linux Server from 'Linux Server >Engine' version 29 to 35, it takes very high CPU usage. >Around 20-30% more than usual, so that I had to reduce the Serverslots >from 32 to 20, as else the Pings increase about 300, up to 600 and higher. >I'm 100% sure, that it is the Engine update 35, as I didnt change >anything else on the Server since months - and before there were no >problems. > >I run a Amd Athlon 3000+ with 1 GB Ram and Suse 9.3 with Kernel: "Linux >linux 2.6.11.4-21.10-default #1 Tue Nov 29 14:32:49 UTC 2005 i686 athlon >i386 GNU/Linux" >Its a rootserver and theres nothing else running on it. > >Unfortunaly I forgot to make an backup before I updated the Server, so >it would be nice if you could tell me where I can dowload the older HLDS >version 29, or lower, so I can downgrade till that problem is fixed. > >cheers >SecurityFox > >___ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please >visit: >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Very high CPU usage since HLDS Engine upgrade 35
Greetings Since I upgraded my Natural-Selection Linux Server from 'Linux Server Engine' version 29 to 35, it takes very high CPU usage. Around 20-30% more than usual, so that I had to reduce the Serverslots from 32 to 20, as else the Pings increase about 300, up to 600 and higher. I'm 100% sure, that it is the Engine update 35, as I didnt change anything else on the Server since months - and before there were no problems. I run a Amd Athlon 3000+ with 1 GB Ram and Suse 9.3 with Kernel: "Linux linux 2.6.11.4-21.10-default #1 Tue Nov 29 14:32:49 UTC 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux" Its a rootserver and theres nothing else running on it. Unfortunaly I forgot to make an backup before I updated the Server, so it would be nice if you could tell me where I can dowload the older HLDS version 29, or lower, so I can downgrade till that problem is fixed. cheers SecurityFox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux