Re: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions
Great, thanks for the info, Fletch! I'll be stress-testing my machine and network tonight to see if I can host a few. On Aug 13, 2012 10:40 PM, "Fletcher Dunn" wrote: > Here are some answers to questions regarding hosting MvM servers: > > * Players can join your server through any means they can join PvP games: > the server browser, ad hoc joins, or the new matchmaking system (quickplay > beta). > * To accept matchmaking traffic, you must select which sort of traffic you > want. (Regular PvP traffic or MvM traffic.) Set "tf_mm_servermode 2" to > be placed in the MvM pool. > * For MvM matchmaking, if 6 players are sent to your server to start a new > game, it will switch to whatever map the players selected. > * You will need a TF gameserver account to accept matchmaking traffic. > * You can switch the server in and out of any matchmaking mode pool or > back to any regular game mode at any time. > * The CPU usage for a 6 player MvM game is about the same as for a regular > TF server. (Yep, this mode requires significantly more CPU cycles per > player than the PvP mode, that's an unfortunate fact.) > Given the surge of players that comes with any major release, and the > player / server ratio of this game mode, the demand for MvM servers will > probably be high. We expect that a large number of players will want to > try out the new mode, so we will be converting most of our servers to host > MvM, and then adjust the allocation based on what players are playing. > > I, for one, DO NOT welcome our new robot overlords! > > - Fletch > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions
Thank you Dan this is exactly how I felt. But, we haven't played this yet to see what the 6 players means in terms of > casual or pub play, joining or leaving, or in terms of balance and so on. > Deciding you "don't like 6 players" at this stage cannot have anything to > do with the game. > > -- > Dan ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions
On 14/08/2012 21:48, ics wrote: It's more of "why only 6 when we had more previously". Same thing went over when L4D/L4D2 came out. People wanted more than 4player coop. Thats why some people invented the 10vs10 versus servers with plugins etc. Just that the game isn't the same anymore after that. Same thing before anyone had played it? I doubt that. I can't really see any worthwhile fretting about how many players the game mode could or should have before it's released, unless it's related to the real reason server admins want lots of players :) As some are aware, srcds maxplayer counts are constantly decreasing. 64css, 32 dods, 24 tf2, 4-8 l4d-series, 4 alien swarm, 2 portal2. I also know that some just love big mayhem, it's fun sometimes but not always. People are different and want different things for different reasons. Well yes, the fewer players, the more shots you need to kill and the bigger the penalty for death, in general, the bigger the disparity in skill will be shown between players and teams. So it's not really a surprise that people who cannot play very well want a configuration that hides that fact. So, 32 man, instant spawn removes nearly all the penalty for being killed and has so many players that skill has little or no bearing. If you factor in the saigns premium stuff as well, you have a server that you can score over 300 points an hour on with your monitor switched off. The only problem I see with games like L4D2 and Dota 2 is they have an issue where the player numbers are too small and the game design such that if someone leaves a pub game the game is ruined for everyone. Some are designed in a such a way that make someone joining part way through the game not really a realistic prospect either. L4D2, less so perhaps because it has the bots, but they aren't usually a substitute, especially on the harder difficulties. (Although when I played L4D2 we generally joined as 2 player co-op, killed the bots and went through like that) But I've not run L4D2 for years. I guess the only reason I might is the linux client. All of these games are great for organised matches (clans, pcws, lobbies and so on) but the people that organise these things will tell you, often the reason they go for 6v6 is simply the issues you have trying to get 6 people all available at the same time to commit to playing a game. This should tell any game designer that a pub or casual game mode that has the same commitment requirements is badly designed and flawed. The problem with this is, natural spite and angry, depressed gamers leads to asinine solutions that try to solve this problem by punishing people for leaving instead of fixing the game design instead. I leave TF2 games all the time, for multiple reasons, quite often the reason is, the game on that server is dull. But often it's something in real life and often something that I had no reason to foresee when I joined the server. If TF2 were designed in such a way that I got punished for leaving a server I wouldn't have played thousands and thousands of hours of it. Anyone that really cares about their game being organised and planned, does comp and has that organisation, the same people playing from start to finish etc - nothing is lost for them in TF2. So, that's the potential loss for low player counts - firstly you can't hide the fact you suck and secondly you can't always come and go in a casual way. Vanilla TF2 has enough players that a reasonable churn rate during a round doesn't really hurt the game too much. Perhaps the most annoying aspect of that freedom is auto balance. But, imo, it's a lot better than the converse (and I think the few dumb plugins that really try to enforce autobalance and stop switching or switch non-dead players demonstrate that once you try to bully and punish your player base, your game and server sucks more as a result) But, we haven't played this yet to see what the 6 players means in terms of casual or pub play, joining or leaving, or in terms of balance and so on. Deciding you "don't like 6 players" at this stage cannot have anything to do with the game. -- Dan ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions
No confusion just a little more drawn out for what seems that everyone wants and that is higher player support - although I think at this point from the information provided we will have to suck it up at a 6player limit if co-op is going to be a resource hog. "6" is all the fingers on one hand and one toe. HTH Or should we read this incredible confusion you have over what 6 players means as saying "I want to up the player numbers to get more donations" -- Dan ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions
It's more of "why only 6 when we had more previously". Same thing went over when L4D/L4D2 came out. People wanted more than 4player coop. Thats why some people invented the 10vs10 versus servers with plugins etc. Just that the game isn't the same anymore after that. As some are aware, srcds maxplayer counts are constantly decreasing. 64css, 32 dods, 24 tf2, 4-8 l4d-series, 4 alien swarm, 2 portal2. I also know that some just love big mayhem, it's fun sometimes but not always. People are different and want different things for different reasons. -ics 14.8.2012 23:44, dan kirjoitti: On 14/08/2012 15:08, Frank wrote: Ok so 6 player limit - is that solid cause right now? I stretch like many others a 24 player server to 32 which still runs fine and if you have the horsepower in the server then why not. I believe a question was asked about the CPU usage - please compare? CPU = 24 player on current game modes compared to CPU = 6Player on this game mode can you throw some numbers? I really appreciate the info already given because what you will have is a ton of excited players wanting to play yet those of us that can support some servers up as of now are just sitting here scratching our heads. "6" is all the fingers on one hand and one toe. HTH Or should we read this incredible confusion you have over what 6 players means as saying "I want to up the player numbers to get more donations" ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions
On 14/08/2012 15:08, Frank wrote: Ok so 6 player limit - is that solid cause right now? I stretch like many others a 24 player server to 32 which still runs fine and if you have the horsepower in the server then why not. I believe a question was asked about the CPU usage - please compare? CPU = 24 player on current game modes compared to CPU = 6Player on this game mode can you throw some numbers? I really appreciate the info already given because what you will have is a ton of excited players wanting to play yet those of us that can support some servers up as of now are just sitting here scratching our heads. "6" is all the fingers on one hand and one toe. HTH Or should we read this incredible confusion you have over what 6 players means as saying "I want to up the player numbers to get more donations" -- Dan ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions
I'm also interested in some extreme variants of this mode. Sure, they may be borders ... but 6 players only? About 16 would be niceor 24? Lets see! 2012/8/14 Frank > Ok so 6 player limit - is that solid cause right now? I stretch like many > others a 24 player server to 32 which still runs fine and if you have the > horsepower in the server then why not. > I believe a question was asked about the CPU usage - please compare? CPU = > 24 player on current game modes compared to CPU = 6Player on this game mode > can you throw some numbers? > > I really appreciate the info already given because what you will have is a > ton of excited players wanting to play yet those of us that can support > some > servers up as of now are just sitting here scratching our heads. Don't > forget the amount of things that will be broken in SourceMod if you run > that > to deal with but I for one don't like the 6 player limit and would really > like to push that as long as the hardware can sustain it. > > -Original Message- > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Fletcher > Dunn > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:40 AM > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > (hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com); Half-Life dedicated Win32 server > mailing list (h...@list.valvesoftware.com) > Subject: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions > > Here are some answers to questions regarding hosting MvM servers: > > * Players can join your server through any means they can join PvP games: > the server browser, ad hoc joins, or the new matchmaking system (quickplay > beta). > * To accept matchmaking traffic, you must select which sort of traffic you > want. (Regular PvP traffic or MvM traffic.) Set "tf_mm_servermode 2" to > be > placed in the MvM pool. > * For MvM matchmaking, if 6 players are sent to your server to start a new > game, it will switch to whatever map the players selected. > * You will need a TF gameserver account to accept matchmaking traffic. > * You can switch the server in and out of any matchmaking mode pool or back > to any regular game mode at any time. > * The CPU usage for a 6 player MvM game is about the same as for a regular > TF server. (Yep, this mode requires significantly more CPU cycles per > player than the PvP mode, that's an unfortunate fact.) Given the surge of > players that comes with any major release, and the player / server ratio of > this game mode, the demand for MvM servers will probably be high. We > expect > that a large number of players will want to try out the new mode, so we > will > be converting most of our servers to host MvM, and then adjust the > allocation based on what players are playing. > > I, for one, DO NOT welcome our new robot overlords! > > - Fletch > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions
Ok so 6 player limit - is that solid cause right now? I stretch like many others a 24 player server to 32 which still runs fine and if you have the horsepower in the server then why not. I believe a question was asked about the CPU usage - please compare? CPU = 24 player on current game modes compared to CPU = 6Player on this game mode can you throw some numbers? I really appreciate the info already given because what you will have is a ton of excited players wanting to play yet those of us that can support some servers up as of now are just sitting here scratching our heads. Don't forget the amount of things that will be broken in SourceMod if you run that to deal with but I for one don't like the 6 player limit and would really like to push that as long as the hardware can sustain it. -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Fletcher Dunn Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:40 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list (hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com); Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list (h...@list.valvesoftware.com) Subject: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions Here are some answers to questions regarding hosting MvM servers: * Players can join your server through any means they can join PvP games: the server browser, ad hoc joins, or the new matchmaking system (quickplay beta). * To accept matchmaking traffic, you must select which sort of traffic you want. (Regular PvP traffic or MvM traffic.) Set "tf_mm_servermode 2" to be placed in the MvM pool. * For MvM matchmaking, if 6 players are sent to your server to start a new game, it will switch to whatever map the players selected. * You will need a TF gameserver account to accept matchmaking traffic. * You can switch the server in and out of any matchmaking mode pool or back to any regular game mode at any time. * The CPU usage for a 6 player MvM game is about the same as for a regular TF server. (Yep, this mode requires significantly more CPU cycles per player than the PvP mode, that's an unfortunate fact.) Given the surge of players that comes with any major release, and the player / server ratio of this game mode, the demand for MvM servers will probably be high. We expect that a large number of players will want to try out the new mode, so we will be converting most of our servers to host MvM, and then adjust the allocation based on what players are playing. I, for one, DO NOT welcome our new robot overlords! - Fletch ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions
Some of the moments "oh, didn't find a mvm server yet" in the first few days are secure 2012/8/14 Erik-jan Riemers > Would assume it goes automatic once you change the gamemode. > > > * The CPU usage for a 6 player MvM game is about the same as for a > > regular TF server. (Yep, this mode requires significantly more CPU > > Is more .. ouch.. if this is compared to a full 24 slots server... then its > a lot.. i can imagine not enough servers out there having the beef to just > create a couple of those. Even if i manage to get 10 up and running then, > it still can only handle 60 people. > > Time will tell. > > 2012/8/14 Michael Johansen > > > > > Would we need to set maxplayers to 6 when we start the server? > > > > Michael Johansen > > > > Owner and systems operator - BlackOutGaming.org > > > > Mobile: +4790810071 | Twitter: @BlackOut_Gaming > > > > Steam: michael_sj123 | IRC: #BlackOutGaming @ QuakeNet > > > > > > > > This email and any attachments to it may be > > confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to > whom > > it > > is addressed. > > > > Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not > > necessarily represent those of BlackOut Gaming. > > > > > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:06:13 +0200 > > > From: daniel.joki...@gmail.com > > > To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions > > > > > > So the new mode is a 6 player/slots per server game? > > > > > > > > > On 2012-08-14 07:46, Cameron Munroe wrote: > > > > Is there anyway we can preemptively setup a server? My guess in no, > > > > but just asking as it seems like it will be fun. > > > > > > > > On 8/13/2012 10:39 PM, Fletcher Dunn wrote: > > > >> Here are some answers to questions regarding hosting MvM servers: > > > >> > > > >> * Players can join your server through any means they can join PvP > > > >> games: the server browser, ad hoc joins, or the new matchmaking > > > >> system (quickplay beta). > > > >> * To accept matchmaking traffic, you must select which sort of > > > >> traffic you want. (Regular PvP traffic or MvM traffic.) Set > > > >> "tf_mm_servermode 2" to be placed in the MvM pool. > > > >> * For MvM matchmaking, if 6 players are sent to your server to start > > > >> a new game, it will switch to whatever map the players selected. > > > >> * You will need a TF gameserver account to accept matchmaking > traffic. > > > >> * You can switch the server in and out of any matchmaking mode pool > > > >> or back to any regular game mode at any time. > > > >> * The CPU usage for a 6 player MvM game is about the same as for a > > > >> regular TF server. (Yep, this mode requires significantly more CPU > > > >> cycles per player than the PvP mode, that's an unfortunate fact.) > > > >> Given the surge of players that comes with any major release, and > the > > > >> player / server ratio of this game mode, the demand for MvM servers > > > >> will probably be high. We expect that a large number of players > will > > > >> want to try out the new mode, so we will be converting most of our > > > >> servers to host MvM, and then adjust the allocation based on what > > > >> players are playing. > > > >> > > > >> I, for one, DO NOT welcome our new robot overlords! > > > >> > > > >> - Fletch > > > >> ___ > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > >> archives, please visit: > > > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions
Would assume it goes automatic once you change the gamemode. > * The CPU usage for a 6 player MvM game is about the same as for a > regular TF server. (Yep, this mode requires significantly more CPU Is more .. ouch.. if this is compared to a full 24 slots server... then its a lot.. i can imagine not enough servers out there having the beef to just create a couple of those. Even if i manage to get 10 up and running then, it still can only handle 60 people. Time will tell. 2012/8/14 Michael Johansen > > Would we need to set maxplayers to 6 when we start the server? > > Michael Johansen > > Owner and systems operator - BlackOutGaming.org > > Mobile: +4790810071 | Twitter: @BlackOut_Gaming > > Steam: michael_sj123 | IRC: #BlackOutGaming @ QuakeNet > > > > This email and any attachments to it may be > confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom > it > is addressed. > > Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent those of BlackOut Gaming. > > > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:06:13 +0200 > > From: daniel.joki...@gmail.com > > To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions > > > > So the new mode is a 6 player/slots per server game? > > > > > > On 2012-08-14 07:46, Cameron Munroe wrote: > > > Is there anyway we can preemptively setup a server? My guess in no, > > > but just asking as it seems like it will be fun. > > > > > > On 8/13/2012 10:39 PM, Fletcher Dunn wrote: > > >> Here are some answers to questions regarding hosting MvM servers: > > >> > > >> * Players can join your server through any means they can join PvP > > >> games: the server browser, ad hoc joins, or the new matchmaking > > >> system (quickplay beta). > > >> * To accept matchmaking traffic, you must select which sort of > > >> traffic you want. (Regular PvP traffic or MvM traffic.) Set > > >> "tf_mm_servermode 2" to be placed in the MvM pool. > > >> * For MvM matchmaking, if 6 players are sent to your server to start > > >> a new game, it will switch to whatever map the players selected. > > >> * You will need a TF gameserver account to accept matchmaking traffic. > > >> * You can switch the server in and out of any matchmaking mode pool > > >> or back to any regular game mode at any time. > > >> * The CPU usage for a 6 player MvM game is about the same as for a > > >> regular TF server. (Yep, this mode requires significantly more CPU > > >> cycles per player than the PvP mode, that's an unfortunate fact.) > > >> Given the surge of players that comes with any major release, and the > > >> player / server ratio of this game mode, the demand for MvM servers > > >> will probably be high. We expect that a large number of players will > > >> want to try out the new mode, so we will be converting most of our > > >> servers to host MvM, and then adjust the allocation based on what > > >> players are playing. > > >> > > >> I, for one, DO NOT welcome our new robot overlords! > > >> > > >> - Fletch > > >> ___ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> archives, please visit: > > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions
Would we need to set maxplayers to 6 when we start the server? Michael Johansen Owner and systems operator - BlackOutGaming.org Mobile: +4790810071 | Twitter: @BlackOut_Gaming Steam: michael_sj123 | IRC: #BlackOutGaming @ QuakeNet This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of BlackOut Gaming. > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:06:13 +0200 > From: daniel.joki...@gmail.com > To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions > > So the new mode is a 6 player/slots per server game? > > > On 2012-08-14 07:46, Cameron Munroe wrote: > > Is there anyway we can preemptively setup a server? My guess in no, > > but just asking as it seems like it will be fun. > > > > On 8/13/2012 10:39 PM, Fletcher Dunn wrote: > >> Here are some answers to questions regarding hosting MvM servers: > >> > >> * Players can join your server through any means they can join PvP > >> games: the server browser, ad hoc joins, or the new matchmaking > >> system (quickplay beta). > >> * To accept matchmaking traffic, you must select which sort of > >> traffic you want. (Regular PvP traffic or MvM traffic.) Set > >> "tf_mm_servermode 2" to be placed in the MvM pool. > >> * For MvM matchmaking, if 6 players are sent to your server to start > >> a new game, it will switch to whatever map the players selected. > >> * You will need a TF gameserver account to accept matchmaking traffic. > >> * You can switch the server in and out of any matchmaking mode pool > >> or back to any regular game mode at any time. > >> * The CPU usage for a 6 player MvM game is about the same as for a > >> regular TF server. (Yep, this mode requires significantly more CPU > >> cycles per player than the PvP mode, that's an unfortunate fact.) > >> Given the surge of players that comes with any major release, and the > >> player / server ratio of this game mode, the demand for MvM servers > >> will probably be high. We expect that a large number of players will > >> want to try out the new mode, so we will be converting most of our > >> servers to host MvM, and then adjust the allocation based on what > >> players are playing. > >> > >> I, for one, DO NOT welcome our new robot overlords! > >> > >> - Fletch > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions
So the new mode is a 6 player/slots per server game? On 2012-08-14 07:46, Cameron Munroe wrote: Is there anyway we can preemptively setup a server? My guess in no, but just asking as it seems like it will be fun. On 8/13/2012 10:39 PM, Fletcher Dunn wrote: Here are some answers to questions regarding hosting MvM servers: * Players can join your server through any means they can join PvP games: the server browser, ad hoc joins, or the new matchmaking system (quickplay beta). * To accept matchmaking traffic, you must select which sort of traffic you want. (Regular PvP traffic or MvM traffic.) Set "tf_mm_servermode 2" to be placed in the MvM pool. * For MvM matchmaking, if 6 players are sent to your server to start a new game, it will switch to whatever map the players selected. * You will need a TF gameserver account to accept matchmaking traffic. * You can switch the server in and out of any matchmaking mode pool or back to any regular game mode at any time. * The CPU usage for a 6 player MvM game is about the same as for a regular TF server. (Yep, this mode requires significantly more CPU cycles per player than the PvP mode, that's an unfortunate fact.) Given the surge of players that comes with any major release, and the player / server ratio of this game mode, the demand for MvM servers will probably be high. We expect that a large number of players will want to try out the new mode, so we will be converting most of our servers to host MvM, and then adjust the allocation based on what players are playing. I, for one, DO NOT welcome our new robot overlords! - Fletch ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TF MvM hosting questions
Is there anyway we can preemptively setup a server? My guess in no, but just asking as it seems like it will be fun. On 8/13/2012 10:39 PM, Fletcher Dunn wrote: Here are some answers to questions regarding hosting MvM servers: * Players can join your server through any means they can join PvP games: the server browser, ad hoc joins, or the new matchmaking system (quickplay beta). * To accept matchmaking traffic, you must select which sort of traffic you want. (Regular PvP traffic or MvM traffic.) Set "tf_mm_servermode 2" to be placed in the MvM pool. * For MvM matchmaking, if 6 players are sent to your server to start a new game, it will switch to whatever map the players selected. * You will need a TF gameserver account to accept matchmaking traffic. * You can switch the server in and out of any matchmaking mode pool or back to any regular game mode at any time. * The CPU usage for a 6 player MvM game is about the same as for a regular TF server. (Yep, this mode requires significantly more CPU cycles per player than the PvP mode, that's an unfortunate fact.) Given the surge of players that comes with any major release, and the player / server ratio of this game mode, the demand for MvM servers will probably be high. We expect that a large number of players will want to try out the new mode, so we will be converting most of our servers to host MvM, and then adjust the allocation based on what players are playing. I, for one, DO NOT welcome our new robot overlords! - Fletch ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
