AW: [Hornlist] Slide Grease
Your problem, Mark, is it that you oil the valves too often. If the horn is played every day, the moist & a minimum of "fat" (oil, grease, etc.) creates a slippery emulsion, which is enough to lubricate the valves. The thickness of this emulsion is about 4 - 5 microns. Guess how much "fat" is needed to create this emulsion. This is an advice from a 50-years-full-time-professional. Use as less oil as possible, but oil the valves "a bit" before giving the horn a rest of few days, so the valves will not stick. Never place the horn near heating, never in very dry environment. Water empty the horn most carefully before giving it a rest. Thin (synthetic) oil works best for the valves, a bit thicker oil for springs perhaps. I did not make any difference. But it is also very important to clean the mouth before playing. = -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: horn-bounces+hans=pizka...@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+hans=pizka...@music.memphis.edu] Im Auftrag von mkolnsb...@cs.com Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. März 2009 01:20 An: Horn@music.memphis.edu Betreff: [Hornlist] Slide Grease Any suggestions for a long lasting slide grease.? I have tried gun grease; Selmer Slide/Cork Grease; GOO Tuning valve slide lube; Schilke Slide Grease w lanolin; all Hetman types; STP. Nothing lasts more than a week w the Holton Rotary valve oil I use. Thanks, Mark Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
AW: [Hornlist] Re: NBC horn player under Toscanini 1948
Thank you. Nice to find Bruno Jaenicke with Mendelssohns Nocturno. Nice "vibrato" but quite fast tempo. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: horn-bounces+hans=pizka...@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+hans=pizka...@music.memphis.edu] Im Auftrag von Steven Mumford Gesendet: Montag, 2. März 2009 23:59 An: horn@music.memphis.edu Betreff: [?? Probable Spam] [Hornlist] Re: NBC horn player under Toscanini 1948 I found a list of people who played with the NBC here: http://www.classicalrecordings.org/znbc/nbcplayers.html That's probably Arthur and Jack in the video, Harry played 3rd. While you're in the neighborhood, check out the Midsummer Night's Dream with Toscanini, Bruno Jaenecke on our favorite solo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2IT2lnpWYw ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease
Mark, This may be more information than you had in mind but I couldn't resist. In my opinion, it is probably worthwhile to spend 20 minutes or so once a week to oil and grease your horn. Do it while you watch some mindless thing on TV for amusement. I have always done this and my 42 year old 8D is in great shape as are my 2 Lawsons. There is no residue build-u7p in the valves. As Walter Lawson recommended to me many years ago, I use three different weight oils. A heavier one for the springs, no. 5 on the rotors and in the valve caps, and no. 1 down the slides. (Kendall Betts who now owns Lawson Brass Instruments can give you more information about the oils.) Fat Cat grease works well as slide grease. The oil and grease seem breaking each other down leaving the valves clean and fast. In my humble opinion, a small investment of time pays off. Gretchen Zook Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: mkolnsb...@cs.com Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:20:23 To: Subject: [Hornlist] Slide Grease Any suggestions for a long lasting slide grease.? I have tried gun grease; Selmer Slide/Cork Grease; GOO Tuning valve slide lube; Schilke Slide Grease w lanolin; all Hetman types; STP. Nothing lasts more than a week w the Holton Rotary valve oil I use. Thanks, Mark Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/gretchenzook%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease
I normally use hetman 7P, but on a whim I recently decided to try the hetman 8 and was plesantly surprised. I apply the 7P with a little brush and it seems to distribute the lubricant more thoroughly and lasts longer. Nelson R. Lawson French Horn performer, clinician, Music education consultant - Original Message - From: "Loren Mayhew" To: "The Horn List" Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 8:30:51 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Slide Grease Hetman #7 slide gel lasts a long time and does not change chemical properties or tarnish the slides. I sell, but have never used Hetman #8 slide grease so I can't comment on it. Loren Mayhew, Owner Computer Intelligence LLC, dba CI Music c...@mayhews.us www.mayhews.us/CI/Finke 001 (520) 289-0700 -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+loren=mayhews...@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+loren=mayhews...@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Reicher, Tom Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:35 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Slide Grease I have had the same experience but have always concluded that anything that lasted longer would have undesirable properties that would gum up the valves. A petroleum chemist needs to advise us all, or perhaps the solution is to have some sort of permanent coatings on slides and receivers so that slide grease would not be necessary. -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+treicher=cooley@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+treicher=cooley@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of mkolnsb...@cs.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:20 PM To: Horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Slide Grease Any suggestions for a long lasting slide grease.? I have tried gun grease; Selmer Slide/Cork Grease; GOO Tuning valve slide lube; Schilke Slide Grease w lanolin; all Hetman types; STP. Nothing lasts more than a week w the Holton Rotary valve oil I use. Thanks, Mark Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/treicher%40cooley.com This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. If you are the intended recipient, please be advised that the content of this message is subject to access, review and disclosure by the sender's Email System Administrator. IRS Circular 230 disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachment) is not intended or written by us to be used, and cannot be used, (i) by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) for promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/loren%40mayhews.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/nlaws2001%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Slide Grease
Hetman #7 slide gel lasts a long time and does not change chemical properties or tarnish the slides. I sell, but have never used Hetman #8 slide grease so I can't comment on it. Loren Mayhew, Owner Computer Intelligence LLC, dba CI Music c...@mayhews.us www.mayhews.us/CI/Finke 001 (520) 289-0700 -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+loren=mayhews...@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+loren=mayhews...@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Reicher, Tom Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:35 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Slide Grease I have had the same experience but have always concluded that anything that lasted longer would have undesirable properties that would gum up the valves. A petroleum chemist needs to advise us all, or perhaps the solution is to have some sort of permanent coatings on slides and receivers so that slide grease would not be necessary. -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+treicher=cooley@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+treicher=cooley@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of mkolnsb...@cs.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:20 PM To: Horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Slide Grease Any suggestions for a long lasting slide grease.? I have tried gun grease; Selmer Slide/Cork Grease; GOO Tuning valve slide lube; Schilke Slide Grease w lanolin; all Hetman types; STP. Nothing lasts more than a week w the Holton Rotary valve oil I use. Thanks, Mark Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/treicher%40cooley.com This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. If you are the intended recipient, please be advised that the content of this message is subject to access, review and disclosure by the sender's Email System Administrator. IRS Circular 230 disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachment) is not intended or written by us to be used, and cannot be used, (i) by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) for promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/loren%40mayhews.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Slide Grease
You may be using too much rotary oil. Is that because your valves are sticking? They may need to be lapped. Loren Mayhew, Owner Computer Intelligence LLC, dba CI Music c...@mayhews.us www.mayhews.us/CI/Finke 001 (520) 289-0700 -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+loren=mayhews...@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+loren=mayhews...@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of mkolnsb...@cs.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:20 PM To: Horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Slide Grease Any suggestions for a long lasting slide grease.? I have tried gun grease; Selmer Slide/Cork Grease; GOO Tuning valve slide lube; Schilke Slide Grease w lanolin; all Hetman types; STP. Nothing lasts more than a week w the Holton Rotary valve oil I use. Thanks, Mark Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/loren%40mayhews.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease
Thanks Tom.? Good idea about a chemist, I know a few chemical engineers I'm gonna ask. Let you know what I find. -Original Message- From: Reicher, Tom To: The Horn List Sent: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 7:35 pm Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Slide Grease I have had the same experience but have always concluded that anything that lasted longer would have undesirable properties that would gum up the valves. A petroleum chemist needs to advise us all, or perhaps the solution is to have some sort of permanent coatings on slides and receivers so that slide grease would not be necessary. -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+treicher=cooley@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+treicher=cooley@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of mkolnsb...@cs.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:20 PM To: Horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Slide Grease Any suggestions for a long lasting slide grease.? I have tried gun grease; Selmer Slide/Cork Grease; GOO Tuning valve slide lube; Schilke Slide Grease w lanolin; all Hetman types; STP. Nothing lasts more than a week w the Holton Rotary valve oil I use. Thanks, Mark Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/treicher%40cooley.com This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. If you are the intended recipient, please be advised that the content of this message is subject to access, review and disclosure by the sender's Email System Administrator. IRS Circular 230 disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachment) is not intended or written by us to be used, and cannot be used, (i) by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) for promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/mkolnsberg%40cs.com Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Slide Grease
I have had the same experience but have always concluded that anything that lasted longer would have undesirable properties that would gum up the valves. A petroleum chemist needs to advise us all, or perhaps the solution is to have some sort of permanent coatings on slides and receivers so that slide grease would not be necessary. -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+treicher=cooley@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+treicher=cooley@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of mkolnsb...@cs.com Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:20 PM To: Horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Slide Grease Any suggestions for a long lasting slide grease.? I have tried gun grease; Selmer Slide/Cork Grease; GOO Tuning valve slide lube; Schilke Slide Grease w lanolin; all Hetman types; STP. Nothing lasts more than a week w the Holton Rotary valve oil I use. Thanks, Mark Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/treicher%40cooley.com This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. If you are the intended recipient, please be advised that the content of this message is subject to access, review and disclosure by the sender's Email System Administrator. IRS Circular 230 disclosure: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachment) is not intended or written by us to be used, and cannot be used, (i) by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) for promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Slide Grease
Any suggestions for a long lasting slide grease.? I have tried gun grease; Selmer Slide/Cork Grease; GOO Tuning valve slide lube; Schilke Slide Grease w lanolin; all Hetman types; STP. Nothing lasts more than a week w the Holton Rotary valve oil I use. Thanks, Mark Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: NBC horn player under Toscanini 1948
I found a list of people who played with the NBC here: http://www.classicalrecordings.org/znbc/nbcplayers.html That's probably Arthur and Jack in the video, Harry played 3rd. While you're in the neighborhood, check out the Midsummer Night's Dream with Toscanini, Bruno Jaenecke on our favorite solo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2IT2lnpWYw ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Studio Recording magick
Hi Carl - I've had the opportunity to play around with the (yet to be released) version of Celemony that works on complex chords. It does a fantastic job on *some* material. Particularly, it works on a mix where there a few voices. When you get to even a chamber orchestra or small ensemble sized group, the complexity gets to be a little much for it. I have a few of these tools including "Autotune" (the original voice fixer) and a few others. The most advanced and most capable I've seen is the one that comes with Magix Sequoia (the Digital Audio Workstation I use.) Sadly, Sequoia alone is $3,000, but this auto-tuner works great in that you can literally draw the correct pitch in (I do this with a tablet and pen like many graphic artists use.) Many of the other programs either do it automatically or the resolution at which you "draw" isn't very hot. I can honestly say that I would NEVER (for emphasis...not anger) use an auto-tuner on an acoustic instrument. First, simply put, I can always hear when this has been done. Regardless of what the software does to the sound (which, btw, it accomplishes this by changing the digital sampling rate in opposition to its reference), most of the time, the slight pitch variance that is normal on a real instrument is just zapped out or poorly drawn back in. In Kendall's example, he was doing it for a jingle. I suppose the recording engineer could be spared his life for the travesty of auto-tuning a horn player, but only this once. One thing you'll find amongst any of the top symphonic audio engineers is that all of them (and I do mean *all*) HATE (again, emphasis, not anger) the phrase "We'll fix it in the mix." What we do is as much an art, science and passion as playing the horn. It's extremely difficult but that's why we like to do it. Moving a pair of microphones 1" in a hall can make the difference between a fantastic sound going to tape or a crappy sound going to tape (and yes, I mean hard drive for those digital guys out there, but "to tape" is still the expression :-)) "Fixing it in the mix" is a horrible cop-out and the sign of a true amateur recording engineer. We strive to make the recording sound perfect in the same way that us as horn players strive to make the performance perfect. Of course, perfection, in the ears of the musician, is always subjective. Cheers! Jeremy -Original Message- From: Carl Ek [mailto:car...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:29 PM To: Hornlist memphis Subject: [Hornlist] Studio Recording magick Dear Hornlisters Regarding studio recordings and tweaking sounds, there are some amazing tools out there for manipulating tones and isolating individual notes from recorded multiphonics. Add to the "mix" some drag and drop plugins for your horns/strings/voice and you too can HACK together a movie score. http://www.celemony.com http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=demoaudio << demo soundbytes Regards, Carl Ek Oxtongue Lake, Canada ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jeremy%40sublymerecords.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Recording debate
Hi William! I did enjoy the conversation that was tossed around, though I should say, I really intended to (and probably will) reply to Kendall a little more but have been on location recording gigs for about the past 2 weeks straight so haven't had the time (or at least not the patience to try and type a full-length reply on my iPhone.) I wouldn't really say it got into being a "wrangle" - just a healthy discussion. I think it's always interesting to hear a couple different sides of the recording story - from both sides of the microphone. Cheers- Jeremy PS - If anyone has a great deal more interest in recording, particularly that which pertains to location recording for symphonic works, choral, wind ensemble, etc I co-moderate a forum at www.recording.org known as the Acoustic Music Forum. This forum is truly focused on precisely this kind of recording. My co-moderators are orchestral recording engineers from L.A., Philly, and Sydney AU and we've got regular contributions from many of the "big wigs" including many Grammy winning engineers, etc. Most of the guys/gals that run around that forum are professional musicians as well and truly know their craft. It's a treasure trove of knowledge. -Original Message- From: William Botte [mailto:wab4...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 6:02 PM To: horn-requests Subject: [Hornlist] Recording debate Good afternoon, Last weeks' recording discussion quickly turned into a wrangle and a primer on recording studio techniques. I think Kendall was decrying the none too subtle affect that the recording industry was/is having on individualism of tone production and musical interpretation by musicians and orchestras. Several years ago during a rehearsal with cast of a production the 'King and I', the conductor was informed that all tempi were to follow exactly the tempi on the VHS recording. The recorded template was the director and conductors' objective. The cast had to follow suit also. I don't know if this approach is prevalent in schools and horn studios, I hope not. But relying on digital recordings as objects of perfection will stifle intellectual and musical curiosity. On another note, I bought a used Pizka mouthpiece last week. My mistakes clams and bleeeahs are much better sounding now. Thanks Hans Carpe Kopprash _ Windows LiveT Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-c ns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jeremy%40sublymerecords.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] High schoolers play Konzertstucke live on radio
These four youth will be playing the Konzertstucke in far more ideal conditions this Sunday March 8 in the Myerson Symphony Center. Dallas (tickets are $8-$30) I am personally blown away by the audacity of it all. I talked with Dennis Houghton a couple of weeks ago owner of Houghton horns in Keller Texas. He tells me three of the four including the rather amazing high horn, Alex K. are students of his wife Karen. It seem to me the combination of horn workshop and studio is a very powerful way of enabeling and motivating youg players. Kudos! The live radion brodcast version performed February 10 with piano can be viewed on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TdAet9Ol1w&eurl=http://www.wrr101.com/?id=239 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: NBC horn player under Toscanini 1948
Hans, Arthur Berv is definitely the first player. Clearly, the second is one of his brothers, Jack or Harry, most likely Harry, though I don't have the documentation of who played what part in front of me at the moment. The video I just pulled up on Youtube actually had the date of December 1948, so maybe I saw a different one. I knew Arthur and Jack pretty well, but about 20 years after the performance was filmed and I never met Harry, so I can't be 100% sure on the identification of the second horn player. Regards, Peter >message: 1 >date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:37:13 +0100 >from: "hans.pi...@t-online.de" >subject: [Hornlist] NBC horn player under Toscanini 1948 > >Hello friends, > >anybody out there who could identify or name the two horn players on the >March 1948 NBC Video of Wagner´s "Tannhaeuser" ouverture conducted by >Toscanini, please ? The two players are shown for over a minute at least >& again later. > >Han Pizka ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Paxman 25A
Roxanne Haskill wrote: I am about to purchase a Paxman 25A from Alan Wiltshire at Horns-a-Plenty. > Does anyone have any opinions regarding this type of horn? Yes...they're great! OK, I have been using a 25L as my main horn for the last 15 years :-) I am interested in the tuning difference; this model in tuned to/made to A442. As Jeremy said, all that means is that the instrument is nominally at 442 with the main slide all the way in. I am at 440 on mine with about half an inch of main slide pulled out. Also, how is the grip on this horn; I have small hands and if the grip is > large or wide I'd need to have an adjustable hook put on it. I'd say it's a bit on the large side. You get used to it of course, but when I played a friend's Alex 103 last week, that definitely felt smaller. I might be more wary of issues with your right hand - if your hands are _very_ small, you might find that you have a problem handstopping properly with the very large throat on the 'A' bell. Tim Costen ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] NBC horn player under Toscanini 1948
Hans: I don't know the video, but I would hazard a guess that it icluded at least one of the Berv brothers. Arthur Berv, Harry Berv, and Jack Berv are all listed as having played with the NBC symphony sometime during period 1937-1954. Richard in Seattle hans.pi...@t-online.de wrote: Hello friends, anybody out there who could identify or name the two horn players on the March 1948 NBC Video of Wagner´s "Tannhaeuser" ouverture conducted by Toscanini, please ? The two players are shown for over a minute at least & again later. Han Pizka ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
