Re: [Hornlist] Horn supervisor blog

2009-08-28 Thread David A. Jewell
Just for the record, this supervisor is Wes Hatch, custom horn maker in 
Wisconsin.  I for one am going to follow this one regularly.
Paxmaha





From: Leonard  Peggy Brown waldh...@sbcglobal.net
To: horn list memphis horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:32:21 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] Horn supervisor blog

pardon the cross posting.

This fellow is talking about Holton back when it was having some problems with 
its horns.  I think it could get longer if anyone starts reading it:



http://holtonsupervisor.blogspot.com/

LLB

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Re: [Hornlist] NHR Healthcare in Europe

2009-08-19 Thread David A. Jewell
From: Anne Megenity amegen...@comcast.net
Yes- I agree. Health problems happen to hornfolk,too. Mental problems, not so 
much?

Couldn't one say that to be a committed hornplayer indicates a slight mental 
condition already present? ;)
Paxmaha


  
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[Hornlist] Brahms Trio

2009-08-10 Thread David A. Jewell
Just a radio note - Radovan Vlatkovic performed the Brahms Horn Trio from Music 
from Marlboro today on Performance Today.  
www.performancetoday.org
Paxmaha



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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Recording (NHR)

2009-08-08 Thread David A. Jewell
Just for everyone's information, rhino records has a compilation cd of Tom 
Lehrer that unfortunately doesn't include Boulder Boulder but nearly 
everything else. 
http://www.rhino.com/store/ProductDetail.lasso?Number=72776
Paxmaha





From: Bill Gross william.s.gr...@gmail.com
To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 8:17:49 AM
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Re: Recording (NHR)

Just back from the subvault under Jack Benny's the recoding I have is a 10
LP.  The jacket has no indication of who released it.  There is a note that
reads, Copies of this record are available at many record stores, or, at
$3.95 each plus 50 cents for mailing, from Tom Lehrer, Box 121, Cambridge
38, Massachusetts.

The LP lable only says Leher Records and what appears to be a catalog
number in small print. 

-Original Message-
From: horn-bounces+bgross=airmail@music.memphis.edu
[mailto:horn-bounces+bgross=airmail@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of
Glick, Ed
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 9:32 PM
To: The Horn List
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Re: Recording (NHR)

I don't recall Boulder, Boulder. but I think it's possible that he made
another recording at a later date. The recording I made was in 1953. The 10
LP (remember those? Only if you're really old!) has the TransRadio (the name
of our studio) label on it and the songs are copyrighted 1952, 1953. The
songs on Side 1 are: Fight Fiercely, Harvard, The Old Dope Peddler, Be
Prepared, The Wild West, I Wanna Go Back to Dixie, Lobachevsky. On
Side 2 were The Irish Ballad,The Hunting Song, My Home Town, When You
Are Old and Gray, I Hold Your Hand in Mine, and the Wiener Schnitzel
Waltz. 

As I said, I don't remember anything with Boulder, Boulder in it. I'll
listen to the disc again to check, but I believe it must have been on a
later [commercial] recording that duplicated some of the songs from the
original disc. We cut a master from the tape I made and Lehrer sold those
records himself. (His address was printed on the back of the album cover.)

Of all the songs on the disc (all original), Lobachevsky was the one that
really didn't fit in with the style of the others. I was told that Lehrer,
who was a teaching fellow in Math at Harvard at the time, composed and
recorded the song to appeal to fellow mathematicians and believed he could
sell a few more to them with this song. (Lobachevsky was a famous
mathematician known to all in that field - I think)

I remember that during the heyday of That Was the Week that Was on tv,
Lehrer had a regularly recurring spot on the program. I don't know how long
that lasted.

Ed Glick

P.S. I thought I would be smart and googled Lobachevsky, hoping to find out
something about Lobachevsky. I quit after finding 20 pages just of Lehrer's
Lobachevsky song. There were many more.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:horn-bounces+glick=unt@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Bill
Gross
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:32 PM
To: 'The Horn List'
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Re: Recording

Me too, I still have the copy my father bought.  I can't remember the lead
it, but side one ends with him saying Mighty, mighty, Boulder Boulder. . .
 you flip it over and the first word on side 2 is dam.  At that time,
late 50s early 60s that was pushing the limits.

. . . Do not shade your eyes, but plagiarize. . . and who deserves the
credit, who deserve the fame?  Nicolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky was name.



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[mailto:horn-bounces+bgross=airmail@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of
Richard V. West
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:21 PM
To: The Horn List
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Recording

Hey, I'm impressed! In my youth (just a few years younger than you, Ed),
Lehrer was the MAN! I hold your hand in mine dear, though you are far
away Ah, the beauty of it all.

Richard in Seattle

Glick, Ed wrote:
 Incidentally, although I'm sure you're younger than I am (83 - me, not 
 you), but you may be of the generation that heard (or heard of) the 
 recording by Tom Lehrer. (Be prepared, that's the Boy Scout marching 
 song, Lobachevsky, etc.). If you know of this recording, you may 
 (or may not) be impressed that I was the engineer on the original 
 recording. (Of course, if you've never heard of it, you probably won't
 be.)
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Re: [Hornlist] Recording

2009-07-30 Thread David A. Jewell


Any of the current crop of devices from Zoom, Korg, Yamaha, Edirol and the like 
are perfectly adequate for horn practice sessions.  I know an opera singer who 
will set his Korg on the back of the hall during rehearsal week in the theater 
and gets great results from 200 feet away.
Paxmaha



From: Allen Smithson sallenw...@yahoo.com
To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:40:10 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] Recording

Hello All,I'm currently shopping for a recording device so I can quickly listen 
to practice sessions, lessons, auditions, and so on. I've been reading some 
reviews on digital recording devices but I'm worried that these devices will 
work great for voice recording and horribly for recording a horn. What do you 
all use/like? Any help would greatly appreciated.Thanks,Allen


      
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Re: [Hornlist] Steve Mumford is irresistible to women

2009-06-25 Thread David A. Jewell
So how does fixing horns make one more irrestible than playing horns?
Paxmaha

From: Brass Arts Unlimited i...@brassarts.com
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:04:39 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] Steve Mumford is irresistible to women

On the bright side, fixing horns does make you irresistibly attractive to 
women. 

Or, Steve, maybe all that metal exposure just makes you BELIEVE you are
irresistibly attractive to women.
Regards,
Dave Weiner
Brass Arts Unlimited



  
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Re: [Hornlist] Professional Cleaning?

2009-06-04 Thread David A. Jewell
I don't know where you are located but if you can I suggest finding someone who 
uses ultrasonic cleaning.  Ken Pope does it, and he had a video of it on his 
website [I just searched and it seems to have been removed]
poperepair.com
Paxmaha





From: Tim Kecherson ketc...@inbox.com
To: The Hornlist horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 5:17:26 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] Professional Cleaning?

I am looking for a person who can chemically clean my horn.  I also need to 
have the bell bracing re-soldered.  Does anybody know someone in the northern 
New Jersey area without going into the city?  Thank you very much.

--
Tim Kecherson


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Re: [Hornlist] Amusing copycat music themes - NHR

2009-05-30 Thread David A. Jewell
Thanks for the excellent link, Larry.  Like most truly funny comedy it draws on 
an unexpected reality.  There are themes that seem to be extremely adaptable by 
just about anyone who can't think of their own, and many who can.  While I am 
one of those who anabashedly likes the Canon, I did cringe when I first heard 
several of those other versions that he mentions.  FWIW, one of my favorite 
arrangements is the double brass quintet version by the Canadian Brass on their 
Brass in Berlin  album.
Paxmaha





From: Larry Jellison lajelli...@yahoo.com
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 1:49:13 AM
Subject: [Hornlist] Amusing copycat music themes - NHR


The church orchestra than I am in is getting ready to play Part Three: 
Rejoice! The Lord is in You, by Camp Kirkland.  At measure 143, the rhythm, 
melody, and accompaniment breaks out into a new theme that sounds so much like 
the introductory theme to the Village People's YMCA.  After a few playings of 
it, I mentioned this to my horn colleague who in turn couldn't resist sharing 
this with the entire orchestra.  Since then, we are all trying to regain our 
composure and put on straight faces for our June 14th performance to the 
church.We all have fun with music themes-- John Williams, as much as we love 
him, is a chicken-and-egg composer-- where did we first hear that theme?
There is a fun Youtube video about the ubiquitousness of Pachebel's Canon that 
surfaces in most music genres. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM
Larry



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Re: [Hornlist] trios for three horns

2009-05-21 Thread David A. Jewell
Cabbage, it seems you have some worthy companionship.
Paxmaha





From: David Goldberg goldb...@wccnet.org
To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu

Simon Varnam wrote:
 Thanks, David! I've been wanting to play these for a long time.  How about the 
others; Schneider, Dauprat and Tripperies ?  (What nationality is that last 
guy? :-D )
 Simon
 

That last guy is German.  You will remember Ferdinand Ries, born in Bonn, 
student and friend of Beethoven.  Little known fact - Ferdinand had three 
brothers, Frippe Ries, Bippe Ries and Trippe Ries.  Not only did they all learn 
music from Beethoven, they also got Beethoven's lousy handwriting, and so when 
they signed their compositions, the publisher mistook their names for the 
titles as we know them today.  These whimsical little bits of ear-candy are the 
only works of the brothers and so they are sometimes referred to as Ries's 
Pieces.

David G



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Re: [Hornlist] Funny sales history, confirmation please!

2009-05-21 Thread David A. Jewell
If you read Mr. Yanchich's book he explains about the HeldenHorn.  I do no 
recall the exact details but Alexander made the Geyer wrap horns only for Mr. 
Yancich to distribute in the US.  It didn't last long, no more than a few 
years.  Alexander has made some interesting one-offs as well - a lady I know 
plays a Geyer wrap Alex that resembles the Model 200 but only the tubing that 
enters the 1st F valve is at an angle.  [the 200 has both 1st valve and  change 
valve tubing curved or bent rather than straight in and out.]
Paxmaha



From: John Baumgart john.baumg...@comcast.net
To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:08:51 PM
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Funny sales history, confirmation please!

t's just a matter of time before you'll be seeing modern Chinese
counterfeits of vintage horns and other instruments.  That's what the
description first made me think of.  You'll see them on eBay first, though,
initially sold by Chinese sellers using their finest Engrish and
questionable facts about a horn being used by Manchester Yankovich, Dennis
and the Brain, et al, in their descriptions, and then later from their
proxies in their target markets so that people aren't instantly turned off
by the item location.  Why sell a Parrot for $200 when with a little
retooling and artifical wear and tear you could sell it for $1800 as a
bargain.  Elkhart 8D, anyone?

John Baumgart

-Original Message-
From: horn-bounces+john.baumgart=comcast@music.memphis.edu
[mailto:horn-bounces+john.baumgart=comcast@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf
Of Richard V. West
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 1:32 PM
To: The Horn List
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Funny sales history, confirmation please!

The seller also has the putative date of manufacture wrong. The phrase 
Made in W. Germany was used in the tears immediately following World 
War 2 to differentiate the Western zones of Germany---occupied by the 
Americans, French, and British---from East Germany---the Russian 
dominated part of divided Germany, but was phased out of use in the 
1960s. My guess is that the horn was probably made in the 1950s.

Richard in Seattle

Bill Tyler wrote:
 from: Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
      
 yorkmaster...@yahoo.com
    
 http://www.hornplayer.net/forsale/f8873.html

 I wonder about the history behind this Alexander
      
 model. The player referred to cannot be verified on the
 web.

    

  
 from: Sandra Clark sclar...@bex.net

 I'm betting the seller is simply butchering Milan
      
 Yancich's name...
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Re: [Hornlist] Horns and Trumpets in the Baroque

2009-05-19 Thread David A. Jewell
It appears to me that it is a period instruments group and that they are 
going by some of the contemporary accounts of how many of each instrument were 
actually involved in the original performance.  It was performed outside so 
Handel wanted more winds to make the sound bigger.  There are only 3 trumpet 
parts, and only two horn parts if I recall correctly. All of the extra winds 
are doubling, a really not uncommon practice for such a work.
Paxmaha 





From: LOTP l...@comcast.net
To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:51:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Horns and Trumpets in the Baroque

Steve,
A cursory glance at the score seems to indicate Horns in D , 3 parts, 3 to a 
part.

Paul Truszkowski


- Original Message - From: Steve Freides steve.frei...@gmail.com
To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 10:45 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] Horns and Trumpets in the Baroque


 Anyone care to enlighten and inform about these instruments?
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXjY6w1KQMo
 
 Thanks.
 
 -S-
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Re: [Hornlist] Horns and Trumpets in the Baroque

2009-05-19 Thread David A. Jewell
In the Baroque years the horn was much more closer to its hunting horn roots 
than it later became.  The hoops were much wider as they were the direct 
consequent to having them looped around yoiur shoulder as you rode your horse, 
leaving your hands free to control the animal.  The trumpets look more like 
trombones because they are an octave lower than todays' D trumpets and they 
don't loop them more than once.  For example, using Bb:  today's regular Bb 
trumpet is 4.5 feet [or so]  and thus a baroque trumpet in Bb would be 9 feet, 
the equivalent length of a modern Bb horn or Bb side of a double.   I am not 
sure about the tuniing slide crook/issues involved in the horns.  I noticed 
that they seemed to be using terminal crooks, which go between the mouthpiece 
and the leadpipe, and a couple seemed to have tuning slides or crooks in the 
center of the instruments, whither I know not.
Paxmaha



From: Steve Freides steve.frei...@gmail.com
To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:38:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Horns and Trumpets in the Baroque

Thank you, everyone.  I did get that this is a period instrument
group, but I confess that this is the closest look I've ever had at a
period horn.  Most of the natural horns I've seen look much closer
to modern horns than those in this video.

I know it is, at least in some circles, up for discussion as to
exactly what instrument is to be used at times in Baroque scores,
another reason I asked - very interesting about the doubling as well.
This is not music with which I am familiar at all - thank you all
again.

-S-

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:02 AM, David A. Jewell paxm...@yahoo.com wrote:
 It appears to me that it is a period instruments group and that they are 
 going by some of the contemporary accounts of how many of each instrument 
 were actually involved in the original performance.  It was performed outside 
 so Handel wanted more winds to make the sound bigger.  There are only 3 
 trumpet parts, and only two horn parts if I recall correctly. All of the 
 extra winds are doubling, a really not uncommon practice for such a work.
 Paxmaha




 
 From: LOTP l...@comcast.net
 To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu
 Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:51:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Horns and Trumpets in the Baroque

 Steve,
 A cursory glance at the score seems to indicate Horns in D , 3 parts, 3 to 
 a part.

 Paul Truszkowski


 - Original Message - From: Steve Freides steve.frei...@gmail.com
 To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu
 Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 10:45 PM
 Subject: [Hornlist] Horns and Trumpets in the Baroque


 Anyone care to enlighten and inform about these instruments?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXjY6w1KQMo

 Thanks.

 -S-
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[Hornlist] musical/teaching legacy

2009-05-17 Thread David A. Jewell
Somewhat more in depth ramblings than I usually post so be fgorewarned:

    My thoughts on the issue of musical heritage and or legacies differs 
slightly from the basic view that seems to have been agreed on.  I think we are 
rich in such heritages, and I use the plural because although we are over 200 
years old as a country, our orchestral lineage only began in the mid 1800's.  I 
think of Horner and Jones in Philly, along with their colleagues and then the 
NYC school epitomized by Chambers, Singer, and others at nearly the exactly 
contemporary point in time.  And let us not forget Farkas, of the Chicago 
school - incidentally I count myself as a Farkas student once removed, as my 
first teacher was a direct Farkas [and Abe Kniaz] student.  I also benefited 
from 3rd generation NYC school as my second teacher was of that lineage.  
What I see is that we have a great many differing lineages and playing schools 
to our history, and to have only one overarching master teacher dominate almost 
the entire concept of our playing goals is antitehtical to that.  In other 
words we should celebrate that instead of one single dominant playing 
philosophy we have several, although it seems that today everything is being 
more and more homogenized.  Our actual number of years of this legacy is 
shorter than a lot of other instruments; I speak only of America in this 
regard.  
    Contemplate also the fact that our instruments heritage has always been one 
of distinct regional variety in playing styles, and that is also different than 
most other instruments that seem to have a more straight line history of a 
lesser number of playing styles and techniques.  I have no recollection of 
reading much about various differing national styles of clarinet playing, for 
example [only the french versus the german keying system] but there is the 
french, german, bohemian, russian, and english philosophies of  horn playing.  
In America we have the Boston, NY, Philly, and Chicago schools as distinct from 
each other, although we can all discuss endlessly the aspects of each school 
that derived from which european national tradition. 
I would love to be able to tell people that I was a student of Duvernoy via 
, who taught ^, who taught ^^ and then who taught me, 
but I can't.  I can only go back to Farkas and DeIntinis [NY school] as my 
teachers influences and thus mine.  
    Instead of being regretful that we don't have a Tabateau - I would argue 
that Farkas is indeed ours, however - we should be proud of the fact that we 
play an instrument that has a far wider and colorful heritage than almost any 
other.  I would also say we should be proud of the fact it took us less than 
100 years to be field players considered the equal of any in the world.
Thanks for listening to my Sunday night thoughts
Paxmaha



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Re: [Hornlist] How Horn Parts Are Written Today

2009-05-07 Thread David A. Jewell
I think we have hit on the necessary distinction here.  If it is an original 
classical, romantic, or baroque composition, then use the appropriate keyed 
horn part and leave the accidentals to the player. If it is a 20th or 21st 
century horn part, use Horn in F and the appropriate key signature.  For 
example, if the composition is in G minor, then write 2 flats in the key 
signature and leave the accidentals for specific changed notes. 
Paxmaha





From: Conja Summerlin conja.summer...@gmail.com
To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:44:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] How Horn Parts Are Written Today

I agree with Richard although i am partial to only accidentals, like how
Tchaikovsky wrote for horn.

Never write a standard French horn part for horn in D, E-flat, C or B-flat,
etc. (although some marching band parts are written for horn in b-flat
although on looking back I wish my band director had given me only horn in
f-parts and reminded me it was just playing with the thumb down).

This directive does not apply to British Brass Band Tenor Horns, modern
pieces for Natural Horn or if you're scrawling out a horn part in C that
needs to be handed to the horn player *RIGHT NOW*.

Conja



On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 4:55 PM, mu...@rgsmithmusic.com wrote:

 This from a long time HS band director who now teaches HS orchestra and
 plays horn in lots of different types ensembles playing a large variety of
 musical types including classical orchestras.

 Unless you have a clear musical reason to do otherwise, write for horn in
 F and use an appropiate key signature. Most players will prefer that. If
 you write for horn in any other key, treat it like a natural horn part and
 do not use a key sig.


 Richard Smith



  I know that traditionally horn parts are written with no key signature
  and the horn player transposes, e.g., for a piece in Concert D, the
  part would be written for Horn in D and the player would down a minor
  third (or however else one chooses to do this).
 
  Do modern composers sometimes score for horns as they do for other
  instruments, e.g., they'd write a piece for Horn in D with the key
  signature of 3 sharps so that the player could read the normal Horn
  in F way and get the right notes to come out?
 
  I'm curious as to which way a currently working classical composer
  might choose to do this - I suspect the answer is both or it
  depends on the composer but I'd like to have some idea of, today, how
  prevalent one way or the other is.  The reason I ask is that the
  person who last night asked about Wagner Tubas is a composition major,
  and I figure I might also explain how to write for French Horn.
 
  Thank very much in advance.
 
  -S-
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Re: [Hornlist] How Horn Parts Are Written Today

2009-05-07 Thread David A. Jewell
Okay, Okay.  Boy you guys are quick.  I forgot to go from concert pitch to 
transposed pitch so yes, 1 flat. G minor concert is D minor horn part which is 
indeed a single flat. 
I hope that people understood the gist of my note.
Paxmaha





From: Steve Haflich s...@franz.com
To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 7:42:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] How Horn Parts Are Written Today

David A. Jewell paxm...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I think we have hit on the necessary distinction here.  If it is an
  original classical, romantic, or baroque composition, then use the
  appropriate keyed horn part and leave the accidentals to the
  player. If it is a 20th or 21st century horn part, use Horn in F and
  the appropriate key signature.  For example, if the composition is in
  G minor, then write 2 flats in the key signature and leave the
  accidentals for specific changed notes.

Duh, I agree with the sentiment, but I think you meant to write:

If the composition is in G minor, then write an F horn part (sounding a
5th lower than written) with a key signature of one flat.
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Re: [Hornlist] Horn Solo in Beatles For No One

2009-05-06 Thread David A. Jewell
folks, let's not forget the fact that Give My Regards to Broad Street  is not 
intended as a documentary - it is in fact a fictionalized story that was filmed 
as entertainment cinema.  Any accuracy in regards to the actual recording 
sessions,[of the Beatles] and or typical studio behavior is probably 
coincidental.  
As an aside, Jeremy Cucco pointed out the Coles mics agains the back gobos - 
any possibility they were being used as room mics for the strings?
Paxmaha





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Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Horn Solo in Beatles For No One



The highest pitch played in the horn solo is the D above staff (concert G) and 
it is played well in tune. The piece itself is in B Flat major. 

..not bad for a hornist who can arrive, unpack  nail the solo in the space of 
45 seconds.. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5gwd3FvPYMfeature=related 
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Re: [Hornlist] lead pipes: was Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-05-01 Thread David A. Jewell
Unlike a trombone where the leadpipe is contained or hidden by the outer slide, 
on a horn what you see from the mouthpiece to the change valve is the 
leadpipe.  It is easy to see any damage, dents, dings, and other things like 
red rot [dezincification].  any holes that happen will be pretty visible if you 
keep and eye on it.   and yes the typical metal problems occurr just as much as 
any other instrument.
paxmaha





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Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 2:05:28 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] lead pipes: was Receiver size on Selman double horn


I have a question on very old horns and lead pipes.  

My husband owns several old trombones (1940 and older) that have had to have 
the lead pipe replaced.  When the pipes were removed, at best they looked like 
swiss cheese, at worse they came out in pieces.  

Can the same thing happen to the inside of a horn lead pipe (brass is brass 
after all) and how would you tell if your old trusty horn needs a new lead 
pipe?  A trombone slide you can look through, but even then you can't tell if 
that pipe will come out in one piece or not.

Kathy
Anaheim, CA
P.S. Do not watch a slide guru work on a trombone slide if you are the least 
bit faint of heart. Scary.


      
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda

2009-04-25 Thread David A. Jewell
that's my understanding of the Paxman instrument.  As an aside, Barry Tuckwell 
recorded the Zelenka Capriccios on the same model instrument.
Paxmaha





From: Steve Freides steve.frei...@gmail.com
To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda

Paul, does that mean it had a low Bb side that's the same as the Bb
side of a standard double, and then another Bb side that's one octave
higher, which is what people here have, I think, been calling Bb
soprano?

Thanks.

-S-

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 8:26 PM,  corno...@aol.com wrote:
 I went to Ifor James for coaching when I was working on the Neruda concerto.

 He recorded it on a Paxman Bb/ Bb alto horn.

 Paul Navarro

 -Original Message-
 From: John Dutton dutto...@gmail.com
 To: horn@music.memphis.edu
 Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 4:50 pm
 Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda

 The Ifor James recording is very nice.  The liner notes state the
 Neruda was recorded on a high Bb horn.  It could be played on any horn
 that one could get the desired tone color from.  Using a shorter horn
 doesn't make it easier to hit a note, it just shifts the partials
 further apart.  The piece can be played on an f alto horn and it could
 be played on a normal Bb single (5.5 feet long more or less).  Long
 story short is that if you don't have the chops to play that high with
 a good sound then a shorter horn isn't going to help.

 Ifor James was a monster of a player and musician.  For many years he
 played a single Bb horn of one type or another.  He stated that he
 played the horn because he could not sing and that if he could sing he
 would never have played the horn.  The Neruda was recorded 10 February
 1987 and no doubt on 1/2 tape.

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Re: [Hornlist] Rare horn piece to be performed

2009-04-18 Thread David A. Jewell
Almost as good as the cruciferous one, Dave,
Paxmaha





From: Brass Arts Unlimited i...@brassarts.com
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Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 9:28:46 AM
Subject: [Hornlist] Rare horn piece to be performed

 So you're saying it's a piece for rare horns.  
It's a rare piece for horn, played by a medium number of players, and it
must be well done.
Please pass the salt.
Regards,
Dave Weiner
Brass Arts Unlimited




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[Hornlist] Re: Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread David A. Jewell
I would caution that the stopping valve is NOT a 1/2 step valve, rather a 3/4 
step valve, designed to compensate for the fact that when stopping in Bb the 
effect is more than 1/2 step.  Thus that is why it is on the Bb side of the 
horn.  There is no key change that is effective when using it,  [A becomes 
somewhere between G and Ab for instance.]   Also let it be known that Kallison 
is no longeer in business so that anyone who purchases one of their horns can 
only get support from their local repairperson.
Paxmha 




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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread David A. Jewell
Most good stopping valve slides are in two pieces, so that the player can 
choose between stopping and A horn.

Dan



Is that where they have a manual rotary valve to add or subract the extra 
length?
Paxmaha






  
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[Hornlist] Lassus, a couple of other random thoughts

2009-04-16 Thread David A. Jewell
I want to thank everyone who responded to my query for the LA Horn club's 
Lassus work. I finally FOUND IT!
It is not in fact, a madrigal, it is a short sacred motet titleAfflictus 
Sum.  It has been rhythmically altered in spots, [very minorly] but it is the 
same work.  thanks again to all those who gave me advice and suggestions - I'll 
remember that when I go hunting again.

I would also like to say that I have posted  an esample of my horn ensemble 
arranging on the Finale showcase website. I have posted Spinning Song -  yes, 
that infamous piano piece - for 6 horns.  The following url should take you to 
the search page, then just type the title in the appropreate box.  
http://www.finalemusic.com/showcase/search.aspx

You will need a way to view the file, I suggest Finale Reader, a free download 
that enable one to view all of the Finale product family files [I currently use 
Printmusic] the following URL should take you there:
http://www.finalemusic.com/Reader/Default.aspx

If anyone is interested from there I have a catalog of approximately 60+ 
arrangements for horns and brass that I am williing to give a catalog listing 
of general info and prices.  They can contact me privately.
Thanks again to the generous horn community
Paxmaha
AKA Dave Jewell



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[Hornlist] Lassus, a couple of other random thoughts

2009-04-16 Thread David A. Jewell




- Forwarded Message 
From: David A. Jewell paxm...@yahoo.com
To: Carlberg Jones carlbergjo...@prodigy.net.mx
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:29:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Lassus, a couple of other random thoughts


I originally posted:
 You will need a way to view the file, I suggest Finale Reader, a free download 
that enable one to view all of the Finale product family files [I currently use 
Printmusic] the following URL should take you there: 
http://www.finalemusic.com/Reader/Default.aspx
 
Then Mr. Jones responded:    Or, you could print to PDF and post that.
                                                Carlberg Jones

I could do that if it were my own website.  Finale Showcase is run by 
Makemusic, the company that produces the Finale and Smartmusic products.  Thus 
you can only post your music in their format.  Finale Reader is free, just as 
is Sibelius Scorch, and they both serve the same purpose.  

Once you have it open, if your chosen product supports PDF [or you have a pdf 
creator on your system] then you can save it in that format. 
If anyone is interested in what else I have to offer contact me privately and I 
will arrange to send you my listing of over 60+ works for horns and brass. I 
believe that prices are more than reasonable.
Dave Jewell




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Re: [Hornlist] Lassus Piece

2009-04-11 Thread David A. Jewell
Thanks for the thoughts, Eldon, but no it is not the Echo Song.  I have already 
transcribed that particular piece.  The one I am after is apparently on the 
second orignal LP, and is only identified by the title Madrigal.  I will try 
to contact Mr. Decker and see if he has any further information.  Having the 
piece would help of course.  My best wishes for a blessed Easter.
Dave Jewel
aka Paxmaha



From: Eldon Matlick sooner...@yahoo.com
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 7:42:50 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] Lassus Piece


I don't have the CD reissue or vinyl here at home, but I believe Richard must 
be talking about the Lassus 'Echo Song'.  It is published by the L.A. Horn 
Club.  It is my understanding now that James Decker has taken over the library 
and one can now order copies of music from this library of works again.


Dr. Eldon Matlick,  Horn Professor, University of Oklahoma
Principal Hornist, OK City Philharmonic
500 W Boyd 
Norman, OK  73019
(405) 325-4093 off. (405) 325-7574 fax
Conn-Selmer Educational Artist
http://ouhorns.com


      
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[Hornlist] lassus piece

2009-04-07 Thread David A. Jewell
    Hi folks - I would like to know if anyone knows what the actual title 
is for for the Lassus Madrigal  that Huntington Burdick transcribed for the 
L.A. Horn Club album.  It is no. 10 on the CD, and it simply says madrigal.  
I have this streak in me that has to seek out the original works, and over the 
last many years have done so for over a dozen pieces I have heard on 
recordings.  I have spent literally hours going through the Lassus Complete 
Works at my local university and haven't found it yet.  I only have about 12 
more volumes to go through, but if anyone could save my eyesight I would 
appreciate it. 
Dave Jewell
aka Paxmaha



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Re: [Hornlist] Tuning meter recommendations

2009-04-06 Thread David A. Jewell
From: Vincent Duval vindumu...@mac.com
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2009 11:45:02 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] Tuning meter recommendations
I'll agree with Carlberg, my CA-30 works well and it's cheap. However, most 
days I'd rather use a tuner that I can hear than use one that can hear me. My 
old AT-12 has a tone generator that is loud enough to hear while I'm playing, 
and I find that playing against a drone does more to improve intonation than 
following an equal-tempered needle or LCD with my eyes.

To add to my post about the TM-40 it generates and octave worth of semitones 
and can be output to an amplifier it it's not loud enough. 
Paxmaha



  
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[Hornlist] Tuner/ Metronome Recommendation

2009-04-05 Thread David A. Jewell
I highly recommend the Korg TM-40.  It is their M-30 metronome and T-30 tuner 
all in one unit.  Sam Ash website has it for $33.00 which is less than the cost 
of both of them separately.  In my opinion an instantaneous response on the 
tuner is more damaging than helpful because if it is that sensitive then it 
will not show a steady result - the needle will waver all over the place in 
response to minute pitch changes will are inherent even in a steady pitch.  A 
bit slower response [milliseconds not seconds] and a few milliseconds of peak 
hold are more helpful in obtaining a result that will benefit the user.
just my $.02 [or less in this economy] worth,
Paxmaha









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Re: [Hornlist] THE FRENCH HORN ; SOME NOTES ON THE EVOLUTION OF THE INSTRUMEN...

2009-03-25 Thread David A. Jewell
I normally use abebooks.com, bn.com [use the out-of-print tab at the top of the 
page]. I also google rare book dealers and search their sites.  Amazon.com 
may also work, but I have found better prices on other sites.
Paxmaha
 
 
where do you go to buy this book?


In a message dated 3/25/2009 9:22:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
em...@magma.cawrites:
Hello  Steve,
An excellent text, well researched; full of historical notes on  the  
development of the horn, as well as notable hornplayers of every  epoch.
My copy is not for sale, but if you can find one in good  condition,  
buy it. Even if you find one in not-so-good condition,  you won't  
regret it.

Sincerely,
martin  bender



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Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease

2009-03-03 Thread David A. Jewell
From: Martin Bender em...@magma.ca
To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 8:13:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease

...It's really rendered sheep fat (which has a biologic source) and supports 
the growth of stuff inside your horn where it is warm and damp-- conditions 
which bacteria really like.

Sincerely,
martin bender

Not to pick a nit but lanolin is not really sheep fat.  It is a naturally 
occurring chemical that coats the fleece.  It comes from the outside of the 
animal, not the inside.  But I agree with the advice about not using it - it 
can eventually decompose, become really smelly, and the worst of it Martin 
stated above.

Paxmaha







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Re: [Hornlist] Chou sur la rue

2009-02-25 Thread David A. Jewell
If anyone on the horn list is attending next week's
convention of the American Choral Directors Association
in Oklahoma City, they will be delighted to learn
that the Prof has not been invited to speak, although
he will attend to hear the National high school honors
chorus will perform one of his compositions.

Gotta go,
Cabbage



  ahem - wouldn't that in a manner of speaking, be speaking?
Paxmaha



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Re: [Hornlist] Heinichen question

2008-12-19 Thread David A. Jewell
Heinichen was a fairly prolific concerto composer in Dresden.  Unfortunately 
many of the works which you hear on CD have never actually been published.  I 
have no particular knowledge of the concerto that you mention,  but I would 
check Robert Ostermeyer edition, Thompson edition [the kalmus catalog], and 
perhaps Recent Researches in the Music of the Baroque series published by AR 
editions. More and more unpublished manuscripts are being published every year, 
but as a for instance, a majority of Telemann's compositions remain 
unpublished.   
Do you recall who the ensemble was that performed the recording that you 
heard?  I would be interested in hearing it myself.  And as a recommendation, 
if you like the Heinichen, try to find the Zelenka Capriccios- you're in for 
a treat if you like clarini horn parts.
Paxmaha
Happy Claamsa and Merry Christmas





From: Joyce Rainwalker joycerainwal...@gmail.com
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:30:16 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] Heinichen question


Hi, all -

I heard a piece on the satellite today and tried to track it down. Heinichen's 
Concerto in F major had some gorgeous horn parts. My web search yielded up a 
couple of versions of a CD recording, but I'm still trying to find a source for 
a full score. Wikipedia says that Siebel published the collection of works in 
1913 but I'm not clear on who owns the catalog now. Is there a site that will 
help me track it down? More to the point, what's the range of the high horns? 
Does anyone have a copy I could see a piece of? My recent chamber orchestra 
concert has rendered me delusional, probably, believing that we can tackle 
anything with enough well-planned practice. I suspect a descant might be 
required, but I thought it might be worth a little more list-enhanced digging.

It might be Clamsaa fog, too. Hmmm.

Thanks -

Joyce (who's figured out that four snow days in one week make for *lots* of 
extra practice time...)


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Re: [Hornlist] Ideas for educational concert commemorating Lincoln's 200th birthday

2008-11-25 Thread David A. Jewell
Supposedly Blue Tail Fly  was one of his favorite folk songs so I would try 
to include that. Also I would look to see if there are any arrangements of 
civil war songs such as Tenting Tonight for instance.
Paxmaha





From: John Schreckengost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:56:50 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] Ideas for educational concert commemorating Lincoln's 200th 
birthday

The educational director of an orchestra I play in has asked if the brass
quintet can put together a program in honor of Lincoln's 200th birthday.

I thought of including some ofthe following:

Selections from the American Brass Band Journal
Songs of Stephen Foster
Spirituals
Battle Hymn of the Republic

Quotes of Lincoln could be read between selections.

What other ideas do some of you have?

John Schreckengost
Chicago, IL
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Re: [Hornlist] Brahms Horn Studies (op. posth.)

2008-11-21 Thread David A. Jewell
Here is my question to those who know of these - where can one purchase the 
Brahms etudes?  I have checked Thompson Edition and some others but have not 
found them. Any information is greatly appreciated.
 Paxmaha



From: hans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:48:03 AM
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Brahms Horn Studies (op. posth.)

They were intended for trumpet, not for horn, but Max
Zimolong, the famous horn player, edited them. They are
twelve etudes not ten.


==

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin Bender
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:38 PM
To: The Horn List
Subject: [Hornlist] Brahms Horn Studies (op. posth.)

Hi David,

They used to be available from KaWe Editions Music (in
Holland) but  
since KaWe Editions has been purchased by Herr Pizka, you
could most  
likely order them from him. My understanding is that they
were  
originally published shortly after Brahms's death (circa
1897) and the  
version I have was edited by Ivan Bialimtchev. Definitely
valve horn  
material!

If you are really stuck for the book, contact me off-list.

Hope this helps!

Sincerely,
martin bender


On 20-Nov-08, at 3:33 PM, David A. Jewell wrote:

 Robert D wrote:

 Brahms did play horn a bit  His posthumous horn etudes
 are interesting too by the way, I've been playing them a
bit lately  
 for
 curiousity.

 Where can one find these etudes?  I for one have not heard
of them  
 before.
 Paxmaha



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[Hornlist] apologies to Thompson Edition

2008-11-21 Thread David A. Jewell
After I wrote that I couldn't find the Brahms on the Thompson website
David Thompsom wrote:
I am sorry to hear that you did not locate that Brahms title on our site.
Actually, I would be curious to know what keywords you used unsuccessfully
in your search so that we can try to determine why the title did not show up
in the search listings, and make any necessary corrections to the item
listing in our database.
The cost on that publication is $7.95 and you may find it listed on the
following page:
http://www.thompsonedition.com/product_detail.php?id=40644

Oh boy do I  feel more than a little airheaded!  There they are right
in the horn studies section of the website where I apparently went
right over them without seeing them.  My apologies for  giving anyone
the impression that Thompson edition didn't have them.  I went there
first because they have nearly everything and what  they don't have
they will get or try their best to.  Okay end of apology and my
question is answered.
Paxmaha



  
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Re: [Hornlist] Brahms Trio, Op. 40

2008-11-20 Thread David A. Jewell
the trio is also available on  the IMSLP site, http://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page  
as a PDF file, as are thousands of other full scores and parts.  Many are also 
in Finale and Sibelius formats also.  Steve, as regards Lilypond, I know of it 
but do not know anything about it.  Finale and Sibelius are by far the world's 
most popular notation softwares, but there are others still out there as well, 
Lilypond among them.
Paxmaha



From: Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:46:38 AM
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Brahms Trio, Op. 40

Thanks very much to everyone for their replies.

Hans, a good suggestion - I will listen to a recording.  I am fortunate, I
found out recently, that the college where I teach has made all of its
musical holding available online, not to the public for free, but to faculty
and students who must sign in first.  I will look this up there and give a
listen.

Kit, thank you very much for pointing this out.  I've printed out the Eb
horn version and will play from that (good to keep up my transposing skills
and Eb is an easy one.)

And I think it's time that I investigate Lilypond software for my own use. A
Lilypond question for anyone on this list who might use it - are there any
of us?  How difficult would it be to take the existing .ly file for horn
and change it to print out the horn part for horn in C instead horn in F or
Eb?  I ask because it might be a good way for me to try to use Lilypond
software, which sounds interesting, for the first time, and I enjoy reading
from concert pitch parts whenever I can.  (It's really just the horn line as
it appears in the piano score that I'd like to produce for myself.)  I
learned computer programming this way - by taking someone else's work and
making small changes to it.

-S-

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 The piece is now out of copyright and can be downloaded for free:
 
 http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=833
 
 Kit
 
  Can anyone tell me a bit about the Brahms Trio, Opus 40?  
 From what I 
  see online, the instrumentation is definitely piano, violin, and a 
  third instrument which can be horn, viola, or cello.  How is this 
  piece usually performed?
 
  I ask because, in the online sample pages I saw, the Andante first 
  movement looks like I could play it and someone asked me about it 
  earlier today.
 
  Here is a link to where I found it online:
 
  http://tinyurl.com/556eol
 
  or
 
  
 http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/store/smp_detail.html?item=980838cart=3
  436094 134647052cm_re=289.1.4-_-Results+Item-_-Title
 
  Thanks very much in advance.
 
  -S-
 
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Re: [Hornlist] RE: Brahms Trio Op, 40

2008-11-20 Thread David A. Jewell
Robert D wrote:

Brahms did play horn a bit  His posthumous horn etudes
are interesting too by the way, I've been playing them a bit lately for
curiousity.

Where can one find these etudes?  I for one have not heard of them before.
Paxmaha



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[Hornlist] New Holton website

2008-11-11 Thread David A. Jewell
I just found out that Holton horns have a new website:  www.holton-horns.com.  
It has all the info on Merkers, Holtons. and Farkas horns as well as a Phil 
Farkas archive link.  Not a bad site all told.
Paxmaha



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Re: [Hornlist] New Holton website

2008-11-11 Thread David A. Jewell
You're right about that. The period at the end of the url is simply the 
punctuation at the end of the sentence.
Paxmaha





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Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:31:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] New Holton website

Please to note that some e-mail software will include the period after /com
as part of the web address bringing you to a page not found.  

The address to avoid trouble is http://www.holton-horns.com/ 

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Subject: [Hornlist] New Holton website

I just found out that Holton horns have a new website: 
www.holton-horns.com.  It has all the info on Merkers, Holtons. and Farkas
horns as well as a Phil Farkas archive link.  Not a bad site all told.
Paxmaha


      
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Gail Williams and Strauss No. 2 review

2008-11-09 Thread David A. Jewell
I should mention that Mr. Ross was also a gracious and patient personality, as 
he was well liked by the orchestra and was somewhat besieged by all of those 
who wished to express their compliments on his conducting.  
Howard - Unfortunately Vestal long ago actually obtained a snide [for 
regionally specific reasons for those of us who grew up in other neighboring 
towns] reputation for the complete opposite of one of the definitions of the 
word. It was said if you wanted to find a virgin you couldn't in Vestal.  And 
unfortunately also Endicott, the founding hometown of IBM has only a token 
presence of that company left.
Paxmaha





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Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Gail Williams and Strauss No. 2 review
Quoting David A. Jewell:
I had the opportunity to  talk to her for a bit and found her to be warm., 
generous, and  extremely gracious as well as down to earth.

One of my teachers, the one who taught me how to practice, did her undergrad at 
Northwestern with Gail Williams and has nothing but the most glowing things to 
say about her.


 I want to mention that the concert was guest conducted by James  Ross, himself 
a former hornist of quite some distinction, having  been, among other things 
the first American to be a member of the  Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra.

He is now the conductor of the University of Maryland orchestra, which I have 
heard him conduct several times. He plays on Jessye Norman's recording of the 
Strauss Vier letzte Lieder, which has a luscious horn solo at the end of 
September (and even more luscious violin solos throughout Beim Schlafengehen).

I've resisted the temptation long enough: After the concert did you go to 
Vestal and search for virgins? ducking and running (I have happy memories of 
spending the summer of my seventh year in Endicott. Dad worked for IBM.)

Howard Sanner
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[Hornlist] Gail Williams and Strauss No. 2 review

2008-11-08 Thread David A. Jewell
Last night Gail Williams performed the Strauss No. 2 with my local symphony. 
[Binghamton, NY Philharmonic]
She performed wonderfully with a full, large tone that still blended with the 
ensemble when neccessary.  Playing on a Karl Hill Geyer model and Hill 
mouthpiece I was struck by the larger range of dynamic shadings and timbral 
varieties that she brought out throughout the concerto, much more so than one 
hears on most recordings.  She made this concerto more alive and substantial, 
even dramatic, to me than it ever has been.  I had the opportunity to talk to 
her for a bit and found her to be warm., generous, and extremely gracious as 
well as down to earth. [after her performance she spent the second half of the 
concert in her dressing room practing!!] 
 For all those who might be planning to attend the NE regional workshop in 
Ithaca she is planning to be there as a performer and to make a recording of 
some new repetoire after the workshop.  
I want to mention that the concert was guest conducted by James Ross, himself a 
former hornist of quite some distinction, having been, among other things the 
first American to be a member of the Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra.  They 
performed Lutoslawski, Symphonic Variations and the Mendelssohn Scottish 
Symphony as well as the Strauss, and I don't hesitate to say that the orchestra 
played excellently.  

Paxmaha


  
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[Hornlist] Gail Williams and Strauss

2008-10-25 Thread David A. Jewell
I would like to let everyone know that Gail Williams will be performing Strauss 
Concerto No. 2 with the Binghamton, New York Philharmonic on November 7, 2008 
at 8 pm.  Binghamton is upstate [the real upstate] along the border with 
Pennsylvania and south of Syracuse, NY.  More information can be obtained from 
the philharmonic website:

www.binghamtonphilharmonic.org/default.aspx

I have heard Ms. Williams perform the Britten Serenade in concert, and of 
course we have all heard her with the Chicago Symphony.  This should be an 
excellent concert.
Paxmaha



  
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Re: [Hornlist] French Horn for sale - Alexander 1103 (late 1960's)

2008-10-07 Thread David A. Jewell
Hi - the 1103 is Geyer wrap horn, supposed to be a more professional version of 
the 503.  It is one of three geyer style models, the other being the model 200.
Paxmaha



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Subject: RE: [Hornlist] French Horn for sale - Alexander 1103 (late 1960's)

Since the Alex 103 is so popular, please tell us what the difference is
between a 103 and an 1103?

Thanks from someone who has never seen an Alex double other than a 103.

-S- 


  
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[Hornlist] SFSO

2008-09-21 Thread David A. Jewell
I just want to congratulate John Ring and the rest of the San Francisco 
Symphony on the most recent installment of Keeping Score, this time the 
Eroica by Beethoven.  Michael Tilson Thomas was his usual insightful self, 
and this time Mr. Ring was featured, even demonstrating the 3rd horn part to 
the 3rd mvmnt. trio on natural horn.  Another keeper.
Paxmaha



  
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 69, Issue 5

2008-09-07 Thread David A. Jewell
Neither did I originally, then I looked at the titles of some of the albums 
that came up and it is the David Lamb Blasts from the Past  [I think that is 
the title] album.  I could not get any of the titles to actually play on my 
computer though.
Paxmaha



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didn't work, didn't get anything on john little search


  
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 69, Issue 5

2008-09-07 Thread David A. Jewell
I did get them to play but I had to reassign certain file extensions to 
quicktime instead of Mediaplayer. I hadn't done that earlier.
Paxmaha

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In a message dated 07/09/2008 23:04:53 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
writes:

Neither  did I originally, then I looked at the titles of some of the albums 
that came  up and it is the David Lamb Blasts from the Past  [I think that 
is the  title] album.  I could not get any of the titles to actually play on 
my  computer though.
Paxmaha

I got them to play through the itunes player


lawrenceyates.co.uk



  
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Re: [Hornlist] Worship Band

2008-07-13 Thread David A. Jewell
Unfortunately there are no really good charts done for worship band with a horn 
section.  Many guitar/bass/keyboard type charts, however.  I would suggest 
maybe finding a book that in lead sheet format [melody with piano 
accompaniment and chord symbols above the melody] and attempting to use that as 
a basis for transcribing the songs that you select.  Word Music, Integrity 
Music, and several other companies have these available.  Check with your local 
christian book store or go to their websites for more info. 
Paxmaha



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I attend a smaller, more conservative church and the youth there are trying to 
bring some new thing to the services to spice things up. We really want to have 
a worship band that includes all of our music playing youth. I looked in a 
couple places, but could not quite find what I was looking for in music. I was 
wondering if anyone out there might have a solution...

We are looking for well known and modern Christian (anyone know Casting 
Crowns?) rather than hymnesque pieces. And our instrumentation would be a set 
player, piano, trombone, horn, trumpet, bass guitar, and accoustic guitar. 

I know this is really specific, but that is probably why I am struggling to 
find something. Google only goes so far... *sigh*

I would really appreciate any help!
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Re: [Hornlist] low horn/ bass cleff

2008-07-10 Thread David A. Jewell
So I take it you can hit all those wolf notes?
Paxmaha



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In a message dated 7/9/2008 5:15:17 PM Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Obviously, if the original poster is female, singing bass may in fact  be 
possible, but not probable.
Paxmaha



Hi Pax,

I always sang bass  until the accident.  Now only 
dogs can hear me sing.  

Regards,Jerry in Kansas  City



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[Hornlist] low horn/ bass cleff

2008-07-09 Thread David A. Jewell
I would like to suggest that if the person needing to learn bass clef is male, 
that singing bass in a choir or other vocal ensemble is an excellent way to 
learn the staff, and also help train the ear. Tenors often use the displaced 
octave treble clef, so they don't always get the opportunity to use bass clef.  
Obviously, if the original poster is female, singing bass may in fact be 
possible, but not probable.
Paxmaha



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[Hornlist] Bohemian Rhapsody

2008-06-06 Thread David A. Jewell
Ashley Grothe:
On it was a recording of Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen, but played by horns and 
couple other back-up instrumentsI was just wondering if anyone knew where I 
might be able to find a copy of sheet music for this piece.

The CD is The London Horn Sound  available from the store at poperepair.com 
and the music is available from the url http://tinyurl.com/77j6h as Dan 
Phillips already wrote.


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I have a french horn friend who gave me a burnt CD of a bunch of horn pieces 
(solos, duets, choirs, etc.). It was unmarked and he had it forever (along with 
SEVERAL french horn disks) so he didn't remember for sure where it came from.  
I found a video of what appears to be the same arrangement (or maybe group, i 
don't know) on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSXvqRXaJ0M) I know this 
is really vague, and unlikely to turn anything up, but I wondered if anyone 
else out there knew what I was talking about and could help me out. I wish I 
had more information, sorry.

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[Hornlist] conductors

2008-04-04 Thread David A. Jewell
Not being able to remember which list had the thread about conducting, I'll 
just send this short joke I found on a joke website to both

A man and his son were walking through a cemetery. The boy asked, Daddy, do 
they bury two people in the same grave?
The father said, Two people? Let me look.
So the father took a look, and sure enough, the marker said, Here lies a 
symphony conductor and a humble man.


Hope everyone has a fun weekend.
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[Hornlist] nhr: analog to digital recording transfer

2008-03-27 Thread David A. Jewell
Greetings...
As indicated, this post is NHR.  I'd like advice on how to transfer older, 
analog recordings, including cassette tapes, LPs, and even reel-to-reel (!) to 
digital format (specifically, CDs). Any advice would be appreciated off-list. 
Thanks!
Jonathan Yoder

Hellio Jonathon - before I start my reply a caution - this is a long answer to 
a short question. 
The first decision you have to make concerns whether or not you want to edit or 
restore the analog recordings.  If you want to edit/restore, etc.  standard 
procedure is to use a computer and recording/editing software and any available 
resoration plug-ins.  Your other, far simpler choice is to use a standalone CD 
recorder or digital recorder. If this is the way that you want to go then you 
lose any ability to remove tape hiss, lp noise, apply corrective eq, etc.  
However when doing any archiving it is highly recommended if the original is 
analog that before doing any restoration that you make an unaltered full stereo 
file at the highest resolution/bit rate that you can.  [I won't discuss 
bit-rate/resolution/sample rate here and now - it's another magazine size 
debate!]
You can use a tape player hooked into your stereo receiver and a CD recorder 
hooked into any standard line or auxiliary output.  Do not use a phone output 
or input except with the turntable, which must absolutely be connected to the 
phono input on the receiver. There is an extra EQ stage in a phono 
preamplifier which must be used for correct sound from an lp.  Then following 
your cd recorder's manual record through the receiver into the recorder.  
pretty simple once you get the hang of it. 
 The more complex route is to use a computer and recording/editing software.  
To get the audio from your source into your computer there are currently three 
portals - the pci card slot, the usb port or the firewire port.  There are 
interfaces [hardware devices] with various numbers of inputs that connect to 
each type.  [none that I know of that connect to more than one kind at a time.] 
 Use of these interfaces typically requires installation of software drivers to 
establish a connection to your system.  Once you have the interface 
established, you will need software - Protools, Cubase, Nuendo, Bias, Ableton, 
etc.  there are literally tens of companies perhaps hundreds that have 
applicable programs.  Audacity is often mentioned as useful - its free but I 
have never used it so I can't tell you any specifics about it.   80 to 90 
percent of all recording studios use Protools and Nuendo/Cubase, but for 
straight restoration projects I couldn't tell you what is
 considered the most standard.Mr. Ovitsky from Sotone would have volumes more 
useful information about specific software.
Before I go any further, let me say a word about inputs - cd players, cassette 
and reel decks, and md players and  such are at line level  a specific 
voltage and ohmage of electrical signal output. Mic inputs are at an entirely 
different level of voltage, as are elecric guitars and other electronic 
instruments, hence the need for the ability of your interface to have or be 
able to switch the inputs to each type. Most typically there are two mic 
inputs, and two line/guitar/instrument switchable inputs on a consumer 
interface.  Headphones are at an astronomically different resistance [ohms] so 
it is not advisable for best results to use that output to feed your recording 
device.  
The chain for recording to your computer is this:  output device  - [either 
direct or through a reciever] - interface - recording software. Note that you 
can use the interface with a microphone so once you have this setup you can 
make excellent practice session recordings. 
There is another more commonplace solution and that is one of the various 
mini or handheld two to four track recorders made by Zoom, Boss, Sony, 
Edirol, M-audio, Roland, Yamaha, Korg and others.  These come either with built 
in microphones or mic inputs, the latter are either supplemented with a stereo 
line input or the xlr inputs are switchable for line input levels. These are 
excellent devices pretty much across the board for general usage. Once the 
audio is captured into these devices they are normally connected to the 
computer via USB or Firewire and then the process is the same as that for 
regular interface/software recording. In other words, the handheld recorder 
becomes the interface for the computer, then can also be used for  location and 
live recording situations.  Interfaces can be had for under $200 dollars and 
most  come with a very useful version of recording software [normally Cubase].  
For reference look at the following sites
fullcompass.com, sweetwater.com, bhproaudio.com, digidesign.com 
and check out Recording and EQ magazines.

I also highly reccommend getting to the public library and checking out any 
books on the subject - the more you know the nuts and bolts of this stuff the 
easier it actually is. 

Re: [Hornlist] RE:King Eroika horn

2008-03-16 Thread David A. Jewell

I played on an Eroica in college.  While home on a break, I recorded myself in 
my church sanctuary and was pretty amazed at my sound - large, open while still 
retaining a nice darkness, a true horn sound.  I later changed to a yamaha and 
only much much later began to realize that the cachet of having a cut bell 
didn't compensate for the change in my sound.  If you look at a McCracken wrap, 
you can see certain similarities, Mr. McCracken having designed the Eroica.
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Re: [Hornlist] Wah-wahs

2008-03-12 Thread David A. Jewell




The learned Prof C wrote

Even if your horn has a conical bore, just install an
Amado key or two, and you won't have to worry about
wah wah any more.

to which Paxmaha, ever eager for knowledge, responded:

Cabbage- do you know of any valve that will help when 
the player has to go wah-wah at an inappropriate time?

*

Thanks to the skills of my urologist, 
I no longer have to worry about this.  
Luckily, the procedure did not involve 
the installation of any Amado keys.

Don't gotta go,
Cabbage

Yes, but what exactly did he install?
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Re: [Hornlist] Vintage dress - NHR

2008-03-03 Thread David A. Jewell
Sunday, March 2, 2008 
Ellen Manthe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
most of the interest seems to be held by those who probably, with only very
few, if any, exceptions, will ever wear the dress, unless it is made into a
vest, tie, or boxers. 

While a vest or boxers would be great there are other possibilities:  a man 
might want to get it for the woman in our lives, or I dare I say it - they 
might actually want it for themself.  I have learned that one never knows until 
it's all said and done.
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Re: [Hornlist] Pro horn cleaning question

2008-02-01 Thread David A. Jewell
I would suggest an ultrasonic cleaning as done by Ken Pope or the Brass bow and 
now most certainly by other technicians. It does not use chemicals and removes 
more crud than a chemclean.  I know you said not to suggest it, but if chemical 
cleaning hasn't made you happy then I would seek something different.  The cost 
has been getting very close to that of a normal cleaning, and more and more 
techs are doing it.  Alternatively, Reka [http://www.reka-web.com/english/]  
sells excellent products as does Hornflush [http://www.hornflush.com/].  They 
make it very easy for anyone to do at home, provided they take a little care 
and pay attention to the process.
Understand too that if you have let the horn go awhile, when it [comes back all 
clean inside it will play more like new. I remember being given my high 
schools' first double horn all new in the fall and in the early spring [only 
7-8 months later] cleaning it in my bathtub.  Thank goodness I had done it 
several weeks before solo festival because even then it played very differently 
- I had acclimated to the changes in resistance over time and had not realized 
that I was doing so. 
Paxmaha


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From: Scott Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi everybody,
My horn needs to be cleaned out but I  am procrastinating because 
every time I get it cleaned out it comes back not to my liking. Once 
it got bright dipped and it came back a strange lime color and I was 
told by a horn maker that it reduces the life of the horn 
significantly. Once it wasn't cleaned out well and you could tell 
there was grit left in the valves. Ow. By the way please don't 
suggest ultrasonic cleaning. Maybe some other time...
I have a couple of questions:
1) How much would it cost me to buy the chemicals for the repairman 
so I can make sure they are clean and pure when used on my horn?
2) How difficult or dangerous would it be for someone of average 
ability to do the job? I can take the valves apart and put them back 
together and take out small dents.
I appreciate any information you could give me, on the list or off.

Scott

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Re: [Hornlist] Pro horn cleaning question

2008-02-01 Thread David A. Jewell
Thanks for the update.  I did not know that Wayne was with Yamaha, I was going 
by some older newspaper articles. 
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Just FYI, The Brassbow is essentially out of business.? If you go to their web 
site, it's a shell.? Wayne Tanabe moved over to YASI (Yamaha Artist Services), 
and TTBOMK he has been unsuccessful at his attempts to sell The Brassbow.? If 
anyone knows anything to the contrary I would be pleased to hear it.

Dave Weiner
Brass Arts Unlimited


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I would suggest an ultrasonic cleaning as done by Ken Pope or the Brass bow and 
now most certainly by other technicians. It does not use chemicals and removes 
more crud than a chemclean.  

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[Hornlist] Merry Christmas

2007-12-24 Thread David A. Jewell
I want to wish all of the many hornlisters Merry Christmas, and many blessings 
for the Holidays and the coming New Year.  Thank you to the many people who 
have answered my questions, put up with some inanity in my attempts to be 
witty, and have given me excellent advice and encouragement.  May the clams be 
fewer than in the past, and may the love and adoration our instrument inspires 
continue to fulfill and satisfy your hearts.
Paxmaha
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Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha 667V

2007-12-16 Thread David A. Jewell
I beg to differ.  The wraps are similar except for two major differences.  The 
use of the dual plane valve is one, and the unique wrap of the 1st Bb slide [it 
enters underneath the  1st F valve slide] are quite substantial I agree.  The 
rest of the wrap is very definitely similar to the normal Geyer style 667.


- Original Message 
From: Hunt,Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:29:00 AM
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Yamaha 667V

the 667 and the 667v have nothing to do with each other. They are completely 
different horns. their wraps are not even close to similar

Yamaha should have stuck with the 800 designation, like 861 and 867 for their 
custom horns. Calling 667v is a misnomer.


tom in iowa

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ishizaki
Sent: Sat 12/15/2007 9:41 PM
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha 667V

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:42:22 -0500
Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Having owned and enjoyed a Yamaha 667 with detachable bell for a while, I
 would like to know what the v means after the 667.
 

v means valve is somewhat special.
In case of 667V, the change valve is a patented Dual Plane Valve.

This naming rule is just for Horns, not for other instruments.

Regards,

|  Yoshinobu Ishizaki  |
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[Hornlist] Recordings/Advice

2007-12-13 Thread David A. Jewell
If anyone has the track listing to the James Chambers Plays Horn album 
[nearest as I can recall to the actual title] I would appreciate them sending 
it privately to me.  I have only the cassette that I recorded almost thirty 
years ago, I have somehow lost the case with the information on it.  I do know 
it has the Heiden Concerto, and the Corelli Sonate in F on it.   
I would also appreciate any advice on where to go to have a website hosted, I 
am ready to take my publications and arrangements online and am uncertain which 
service to look at.  One guideline - they have to be cheap 'cause my budget is 
minimal.
thanks in advance for any and all help.
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Re: [Hornlist] Concert Band question - upright bass

2007-12-12 Thread David A. Jewell
Having a string bass in the concert or symphonic band is actually not at all 
new, but dates from the 19th century-  When band concerts were a primary source 
of community entertainment, in many towns and villages it was the only place to 
hear the latest classical music hits.  The string bass was included because 
of the scarcity of tubas, availability of bass players, and entirely my own 
theory - because it gave a veneer of depth to the presentation of the music. 
[i.e. it looked more like a symphony orchestra] 
 It continued as a standard practice, but if you review many 20th century 
American band scores you will not find a string  bass, but stronger and more 
resilient and structurally important tuba and bass trombone parts.   The 
inclusion of string bass parts is recurring, perhaps as a nod to tradition, but 
based on my recent educational experiences, because of the lack of student tuba 
players, and as a response to a need expressed by current middle and high 
school band directors.


   
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Kruspe and Benge MP, band music

2007-11-26 Thread David A. Jewell
I would hasten to add that Alfred Reed always had interesting if not glorious 
horn parts, and James Barnes Chance and Clifton Williams wrote solid, musical 
parts.  And then there is the chorale section of Eternal Father Strong to 
Save. 
Paxmaha

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It's true that some of the horn parts for band music could be more
 interesting, but there's lots of good stuff out there.  Take a look at:
  Hanson's Chorale  Alleluia, Jenkins's American Overture,
 Persichetti's Pagent, Thomson's A Solemn Music, and Still's From the 
Delta.
  In American Overture, the horn section is featured  the parts are
 really fun. loaaded w/ personality, not to mention challenging for
 articulation  endurance.  In From the Delta there's some oom-pahs but
 there's also some very expressive harmonic parts for horns  a gorgeous 
 jazzy obligato the whole section takes turns doing in the third
 movement.  I love the variety in band music.  About oom-pah parts:  I enjoy
 'em, especially when they are harmonic  played well.  I get a big kick
 out of that particular sound that only a good horn section can make.
  Nobody else can do what we do.  ~Valerie
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