Re: [Hornlist] Horn supervisor blog
Just for the record, this supervisor is Wes Hatch, custom horn maker in Wisconsin. I for one am going to follow this one regularly. Paxmaha From: Leonard Peggy Brown waldh...@sbcglobal.net To: horn list memphis horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:32:21 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Horn supervisor blog pardon the cross posting. This fellow is talking about Holton back when it was having some problems with its horns. I think it could get longer if anyone starts reading it: http://holtonsupervisor.blogspot.com/ LLB ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] NHR Healthcare in Europe
From: Anne Megenity amegen...@comcast.net Yes- I agree. Health problems happen to hornfolk,too. Mental problems, not so much? Couldn't one say that to be a committed hornplayer indicates a slight mental condition already present? ;) Paxmaha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Brahms Trio
Just a radio note - Radovan Vlatkovic performed the Brahms Horn Trio from Music from Marlboro today on Performance Today. www.performancetoday.org Paxmaha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Recording (NHR)
Just for everyone's information, rhino records has a compilation cd of Tom Lehrer that unfortunately doesn't include Boulder Boulder but nearly everything else. http://www.rhino.com/store/ProductDetail.lasso?Number=72776 Paxmaha From: Bill Gross william.s.gr...@gmail.com To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 8:17:49 AM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Re: Recording (NHR) Just back from the subvault under Jack Benny's the recoding I have is a 10 LP. The jacket has no indication of who released it. There is a note that reads, Copies of this record are available at many record stores, or, at $3.95 each plus 50 cents for mailing, from Tom Lehrer, Box 121, Cambridge 38, Massachusetts. The LP lable only says Leher Records and what appears to be a catalog number in small print. -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+bgross=airmail@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+bgross=airmail@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Glick, Ed Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 9:32 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Re: Recording (NHR) I don't recall Boulder, Boulder. but I think it's possible that he made another recording at a later date. The recording I made was in 1953. The 10 LP (remember those? Only if you're really old!) has the TransRadio (the name of our studio) label on it and the songs are copyrighted 1952, 1953. The songs on Side 1 are: Fight Fiercely, Harvard, The Old Dope Peddler, Be Prepared, The Wild West, I Wanna Go Back to Dixie, Lobachevsky. On Side 2 were The Irish Ballad,The Hunting Song, My Home Town, When You Are Old and Gray, I Hold Your Hand in Mine, and the Wiener Schnitzel Waltz. As I said, I don't remember anything with Boulder, Boulder in it. I'll listen to the disc again to check, but I believe it must have been on a later [commercial] recording that duplicated some of the songs from the original disc. We cut a master from the tape I made and Lehrer sold those records himself. (His address was printed on the back of the album cover.) Of all the songs on the disc (all original), Lobachevsky was the one that really didn't fit in with the style of the others. I was told that Lehrer, who was a teaching fellow in Math at Harvard at the time, composed and recorded the song to appeal to fellow mathematicians and believed he could sell a few more to them with this song. (Lobachevsky was a famous mathematician known to all in that field - I think) I remember that during the heyday of That Was the Week that Was on tv, Lehrer had a regularly recurring spot on the program. I don't know how long that lasted. Ed Glick P.S. I thought I would be smart and googled Lobachevsky, hoping to find out something about Lobachevsky. I quit after finding 20 pages just of Lehrer's Lobachevsky song. There were many more. -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+glick=unt@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+glick=unt@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Gross Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:32 PM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Re: Recording Me too, I still have the copy my father bought. I can't remember the lead it, but side one ends with him saying Mighty, mighty, Boulder Boulder. . . you flip it over and the first word on side 2 is dam. At that time, late 50s early 60s that was pushing the limits. . . . Do not shade your eyes, but plagiarize. . . and who deserves the credit, who deserve the fame? Nicolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky was name. -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+bgross=airmail@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+bgross=airmail@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Richard V. West Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:21 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Recording Hey, I'm impressed! In my youth (just a few years younger than you, Ed), Lehrer was the MAN! I hold your hand in mine dear, though you are far away Ah, the beauty of it all. Richard in Seattle Glick, Ed wrote: Incidentally, although I'm sure you're younger than I am (83 - me, not you), but you may be of the generation that heard (or heard of) the recording by Tom Lehrer. (Be prepared, that's the Boy Scout marching song, Lobachevsky, etc.). If you know of this recording, you may (or may not) be impressed that I was the engineer on the original recording. (Of course, if you've never heard of it, you probably won't be.) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/glick%40unt.edu ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post:
Re: [Hornlist] Recording
Any of the current crop of devices from Zoom, Korg, Yamaha, Edirol and the like are perfectly adequate for horn practice sessions. I know an opera singer who will set his Korg on the back of the hall during rehearsal week in the theater and gets great results from 200 feet away. Paxmaha From: Allen Smithson sallenw...@yahoo.com To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:40:10 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Recording Hello All,I'm currently shopping for a recording device so I can quickly listen to practice sessions, lessons, auditions, and so on. I've been reading some reviews on digital recording devices but I'm worried that these devices will work great for voice recording and horribly for recording a horn. What do you all use/like? Any help would greatly appreciated.Thanks,Allen ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Steve Mumford is irresistible to women
So how does fixing horns make one more irrestible than playing horns? Paxmaha From: Brass Arts Unlimited i...@brassarts.com To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:04:39 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Steve Mumford is irresistible to women On the bright side, fixing horns does make you irresistibly attractive to women. Or, Steve, maybe all that metal exposure just makes you BELIEVE you are irresistibly attractive to women. Regards, Dave Weiner Brass Arts Unlimited ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Professional Cleaning?
I don't know where you are located but if you can I suggest finding someone who uses ultrasonic cleaning. Ken Pope does it, and he had a video of it on his website [I just searched and it seems to have been removed] poperepair.com Paxmaha From: Tim Kecherson ketc...@inbox.com To: The Hornlist horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 5:17:26 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Professional Cleaning? I am looking for a person who can chemically clean my horn. I also need to have the bell bracing re-soldered. Does anybody know someone in the northern New Jersey area without going into the city? Thank you very much. -- Tim Kecherson FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Amusing copycat music themes - NHR
Thanks for the excellent link, Larry. Like most truly funny comedy it draws on an unexpected reality. There are themes that seem to be extremely adaptable by just about anyone who can't think of their own, and many who can. While I am one of those who anabashedly likes the Canon, I did cringe when I first heard several of those other versions that he mentions. FWIW, one of my favorite arrangements is the double brass quintet version by the Canadian Brass on their Brass in Berlin album. Paxmaha From: Larry Jellison lajelli...@yahoo.com To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 1:49:13 AM Subject: [Hornlist] Amusing copycat music themes - NHR The church orchestra than I am in is getting ready to play Part Three: Rejoice! The Lord is in You, by Camp Kirkland. At measure 143, the rhythm, melody, and accompaniment breaks out into a new theme that sounds so much like the introductory theme to the Village People's YMCA. After a few playings of it, I mentioned this to my horn colleague who in turn couldn't resist sharing this with the entire orchestra. Since then, we are all trying to regain our composure and put on straight faces for our June 14th performance to the church.We all have fun with music themes-- John Williams, as much as we love him, is a chicken-and-egg composer-- where did we first hear that theme? There is a fun Youtube video about the ubiquitousness of Pachebel's Canon that surfaces in most music genres. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM Larry ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] trios for three horns
Cabbage, it seems you have some worthy companionship. Paxmaha From: David Goldberg goldb...@wccnet.org To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Simon Varnam wrote: Thanks, David! I've been wanting to play these for a long time. How about the others; Schneider, Dauprat and Tripperies ? (What nationality is that last guy? :-D ) Simon That last guy is German. You will remember Ferdinand Ries, born in Bonn, student and friend of Beethoven. Little known fact - Ferdinand had three brothers, Frippe Ries, Bippe Ries and Trippe Ries. Not only did they all learn music from Beethoven, they also got Beethoven's lousy handwriting, and so when they signed their compositions, the publisher mistook their names for the titles as we know them today. These whimsical little bits of ear-candy are the only works of the brothers and so they are sometimes referred to as Ries's Pieces. David G ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Funny sales history, confirmation please!
If you read Mr. Yanchich's book he explains about the HeldenHorn. I do no recall the exact details but Alexander made the Geyer wrap horns only for Mr. Yancich to distribute in the US. It didn't last long, no more than a few years. Alexander has made some interesting one-offs as well - a lady I know plays a Geyer wrap Alex that resembles the Model 200 but only the tubing that enters the 1st F valve is at an angle. [the 200 has both 1st valve and change valve tubing curved or bent rather than straight in and out.] Paxmaha From: John Baumgart john.baumg...@comcast.net To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:08:51 PM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Funny sales history, confirmation please! t's just a matter of time before you'll be seeing modern Chinese counterfeits of vintage horns and other instruments. That's what the description first made me think of. You'll see them on eBay first, though, initially sold by Chinese sellers using their finest Engrish and questionable facts about a horn being used by Manchester Yankovich, Dennis and the Brain, et al, in their descriptions, and then later from their proxies in their target markets so that people aren't instantly turned off by the item location. Why sell a Parrot for $200 when with a little retooling and artifical wear and tear you could sell it for $1800 as a bargain. Elkhart 8D, anyone? John Baumgart -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+john.baumgart=comcast@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+john.baumgart=comcast@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Richard V. West Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 1:32 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Funny sales history, confirmation please! The seller also has the putative date of manufacture wrong. The phrase Made in W. Germany was used in the tears immediately following World War 2 to differentiate the Western zones of Germany---occupied by the Americans, French, and British---from East Germany---the Russian dominated part of divided Germany, but was phased out of use in the 1960s. My guess is that the horn was probably made in the 1950s. Richard in Seattle Bill Tyler wrote: from: Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com http://www.hornplayer.net/forsale/f8873.html I wonder about the history behind this Alexander model. The player referred to cannot be verified on the web. from: Sandra Clark sclar...@bex.net I'm betting the seller is simply butchering Milan Yancich's name... ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/john.baumgart%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Horns and Trumpets in the Baroque
It appears to me that it is a period instruments group and that they are going by some of the contemporary accounts of how many of each instrument were actually involved in the original performance. It was performed outside so Handel wanted more winds to make the sound bigger. There are only 3 trumpet parts, and only two horn parts if I recall correctly. All of the extra winds are doubling, a really not uncommon practice for such a work. Paxmaha From: LOTP l...@comcast.net To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:51:44 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Horns and Trumpets in the Baroque Steve, A cursory glance at the score seems to indicate Horns in D , 3 parts, 3 to a part. Paul Truszkowski - Original Message - From: Steve Freides steve.frei...@gmail.com To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 10:45 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Horns and Trumpets in the Baroque Anyone care to enlighten and inform about these instruments? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXjY6w1KQMo Thanks. -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lotp%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Horns and Trumpets in the Baroque
In the Baroque years the horn was much more closer to its hunting horn roots than it later became. The hoops were much wider as they were the direct consequent to having them looped around yoiur shoulder as you rode your horse, leaving your hands free to control the animal. The trumpets look more like trombones because they are an octave lower than todays' D trumpets and they don't loop them more than once. For example, using Bb: today's regular Bb trumpet is 4.5 feet [or so] and thus a baroque trumpet in Bb would be 9 feet, the equivalent length of a modern Bb horn or Bb side of a double. I am not sure about the tuniing slide crook/issues involved in the horns. I noticed that they seemed to be using terminal crooks, which go between the mouthpiece and the leadpipe, and a couple seemed to have tuning slides or crooks in the center of the instruments, whither I know not. Paxmaha From: Steve Freides steve.frei...@gmail.com To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:38:19 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Horns and Trumpets in the Baroque Thank you, everyone. I did get that this is a period instrument group, but I confess that this is the closest look I've ever had at a period horn. Most of the natural horns I've seen look much closer to modern horns than those in this video. I know it is, at least in some circles, up for discussion as to exactly what instrument is to be used at times in Baroque scores, another reason I asked - very interesting about the doubling as well. This is not music with which I am familiar at all - thank you all again. -S- On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:02 AM, David A. Jewell paxm...@yahoo.com wrote: It appears to me that it is a period instruments group and that they are going by some of the contemporary accounts of how many of each instrument were actually involved in the original performance. It was performed outside so Handel wanted more winds to make the sound bigger. There are only 3 trumpet parts, and only two horn parts if I recall correctly. All of the extra winds are doubling, a really not uncommon practice for such a work. Paxmaha From: LOTP l...@comcast.net To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:51:44 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Horns and Trumpets in the Baroque Steve, A cursory glance at the score seems to indicate Horns in D , 3 parts, 3 to a part. Paul Truszkowski - Original Message - From: Steve Freides steve.frei...@gmail.com To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 10:45 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Horns and Trumpets in the Baroque Anyone care to enlighten and inform about these instruments? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXjY6w1KQMo Thanks. -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lotp%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve.freides%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] musical/teaching legacy
Somewhat more in depth ramblings than I usually post so be fgorewarned: My thoughts on the issue of musical heritage and or legacies differs slightly from the basic view that seems to have been agreed on. I think we are rich in such heritages, and I use the plural because although we are over 200 years old as a country, our orchestral lineage only began in the mid 1800's. I think of Horner and Jones in Philly, along with their colleagues and then the NYC school epitomized by Chambers, Singer, and others at nearly the exactly contemporary point in time. And let us not forget Farkas, of the Chicago school - incidentally I count myself as a Farkas student once removed, as my first teacher was a direct Farkas [and Abe Kniaz] student. I also benefited from 3rd generation NYC school as my second teacher was of that lineage. What I see is that we have a great many differing lineages and playing schools to our history, and to have only one overarching master teacher dominate almost the entire concept of our playing goals is antitehtical to that. In other words we should celebrate that instead of one single dominant playing philosophy we have several, although it seems that today everything is being more and more homogenized. Our actual number of years of this legacy is shorter than a lot of other instruments; I speak only of America in this regard. Contemplate also the fact that our instruments heritage has always been one of distinct regional variety in playing styles, and that is also different than most other instruments that seem to have a more straight line history of a lesser number of playing styles and techniques. I have no recollection of reading much about various differing national styles of clarinet playing, for example [only the french versus the german keying system] but there is the french, german, bohemian, russian, and english philosophies of horn playing. In America we have the Boston, NY, Philly, and Chicago schools as distinct from each other, although we can all discuss endlessly the aspects of each school that derived from which european national tradition. I would love to be able to tell people that I was a student of Duvernoy via , who taught ^, who taught ^^ and then who taught me, but I can't. I can only go back to Farkas and DeIntinis [NY school] as my teachers influences and thus mine. Instead of being regretful that we don't have a Tabateau - I would argue that Farkas is indeed ours, however - we should be proud of the fact that we play an instrument that has a far wider and colorful heritage than almost any other. I would also say we should be proud of the fact it took us less than 100 years to be field players considered the equal of any in the world. Thanks for listening to my Sunday night thoughts Paxmaha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] How Horn Parts Are Written Today
I think we have hit on the necessary distinction here. If it is an original classical, romantic, or baroque composition, then use the appropriate keyed horn part and leave the accidentals to the player. If it is a 20th or 21st century horn part, use Horn in F and the appropriate key signature. For example, if the composition is in G minor, then write 2 flats in the key signature and leave the accidentals for specific changed notes. Paxmaha From: Conja Summerlin conja.summer...@gmail.com To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:44:28 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] How Horn Parts Are Written Today I agree with Richard although i am partial to only accidentals, like how Tchaikovsky wrote for horn. Never write a standard French horn part for horn in D, E-flat, C or B-flat, etc. (although some marching band parts are written for horn in b-flat although on looking back I wish my band director had given me only horn in f-parts and reminded me it was just playing with the thumb down). This directive does not apply to British Brass Band Tenor Horns, modern pieces for Natural Horn or if you're scrawling out a horn part in C that needs to be handed to the horn player *RIGHT NOW*. Conja On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 4:55 PM, mu...@rgsmithmusic.com wrote: This from a long time HS band director who now teaches HS orchestra and plays horn in lots of different types ensembles playing a large variety of musical types including classical orchestras. Unless you have a clear musical reason to do otherwise, write for horn in F and use an appropiate key signature. Most players will prefer that. If you write for horn in any other key, treat it like a natural horn part and do not use a key sig. Richard Smith I know that traditionally horn parts are written with no key signature and the horn player transposes, e.g., for a piece in Concert D, the part would be written for Horn in D and the player would down a minor third (or however else one chooses to do this). Do modern composers sometimes score for horns as they do for other instruments, e.g., they'd write a piece for Horn in D with the key signature of 3 sharps so that the player could read the normal Horn in F way and get the right notes to come out? I'm curious as to which way a currently working classical composer might choose to do this - I suspect the answer is both or it depends on the composer but I'd like to have some idea of, today, how prevalent one way or the other is. The reason I ask is that the person who last night asked about Wagner Tubas is a composition major, and I figure I might also explain how to write for French Horn. Thank very much in advance. -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/music%40rgsmithmusic.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/conja.summerlin%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] How Horn Parts Are Written Today
Okay, Okay. Boy you guys are quick. I forgot to go from concert pitch to transposed pitch so yes, 1 flat. G minor concert is D minor horn part which is indeed a single flat. I hope that people understood the gist of my note. Paxmaha From: Steve Haflich s...@franz.com To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 7:42:34 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] How Horn Parts Are Written Today David A. Jewell paxm...@yahoo.com wrote: I think we have hit on the necessary distinction here. If it is an original classical, romantic, or baroque composition, then use the appropriate keyed horn part and leave the accidentals to the player. If it is a 20th or 21st century horn part, use Horn in F and the appropriate key signature. For example, if the composition is in G minor, then write 2 flats in the key signature and leave the accidentals for specific changed notes. Duh, I agree with the sentiment, but I think you meant to write: If the composition is in G minor, then write an F horn part (sounding a 5th lower than written) with a key signature of one flat. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Horn Solo in Beatles For No One
folks, let's not forget the fact that Give My Regards to Broad Street is not intended as a documentary - it is in fact a fictionalized story that was filmed as entertainment cinema. Any accuracy in regards to the actual recording sessions,[of the Beatles] and or typical studio behavior is probably coincidental. As an aside, Jeremy Cucco pointed out the Coles mics agains the back gobos - any possibility they were being used as room mics for the strings? Paxmaha From: ardee...@comcast.net ardee...@comcast.net To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 3:07:43 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Horn Solo in Beatles For No One The highest pitch played in the horn solo is the D above staff (concert G) and it is played well in tune. The piece itself is in B Flat major. ..not bad for a hornist who can arrive, unpack nail the solo in the space of 45 seconds.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5gwd3FvPYMfeature=related ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] lead pipes: was Receiver size on Selman double horn
Unlike a trombone where the leadpipe is contained or hidden by the outer slide, on a horn what you see from the mouthpiece to the change valve is the leadpipe. It is easy to see any damage, dents, dings, and other things like red rot [dezincification]. any holes that happen will be pretty visible if you keep and eye on it. and yes the typical metal problems occurr just as much as any other instrument. paxmaha From: Kathy Lowe tgatekeep...@yahoo.com To: hornlist horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 2:05:28 PM Subject: [Hornlist] lead pipes: was Receiver size on Selman double horn I have a question on very old horns and lead pipes. My husband owns several old trombones (1940 and older) that have had to have the lead pipe replaced. When the pipes were removed, at best they looked like swiss cheese, at worse they came out in pieces. Can the same thing happen to the inside of a horn lead pipe (brass is brass after all) and how would you tell if your old trusty horn needs a new lead pipe? A trombone slide you can look through, but even then you can't tell if that pipe will come out in one piece or not. Kathy Anaheim, CA P.S. Do not watch a slide guru work on a trombone slide if you are the least bit faint of heart. Scary. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda
that's my understanding of the Paxman instrument. As an aside, Barry Tuckwell recorded the Zelenka Capriccios on the same model instrument. Paxmaha From: Steve Freides steve.frei...@gmail.com To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:10:16 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda Paul, does that mean it had a low Bb side that's the same as the Bb side of a standard double, and then another Bb side that's one octave higher, which is what people here have, I think, been calling Bb soprano? Thanks. -S- On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 8:26 PM, corno...@aol.com wrote: I went to Ifor James for coaching when I was working on the Neruda concerto. He recorded it on a Paxman Bb/ Bb alto horn. Paul Navarro -Original Message- From: John Dutton dutto...@gmail.com To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 4:50 pm Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda The Ifor James recording is very nice. The liner notes state the Neruda was recorded on a high Bb horn. It could be played on any horn that one could get the desired tone color from. Using a shorter horn doesn't make it easier to hit a note, it just shifts the partials further apart. The piece can be played on an f alto horn and it could be played on a normal Bb single (5.5 feet long more or less). Long story short is that if you don't have the chops to play that high with a good sound then a shorter horn isn't going to help. Ifor James was a monster of a player and musician. For many years he played a single Bb horn of one type or another. He stated that he played the horn because he could not sing and that if he could sing he would never have played the horn. The Neruda was recorded 10 February 1987 and no doubt on 1/2 tape. The Jack Attack! ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/corno911%40aol.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve.freides%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Rare horn piece to be performed
Almost as good as the cruciferous one, Dave, Paxmaha From: Brass Arts Unlimited i...@brassarts.com To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 9:28:46 AM Subject: [Hornlist] Rare horn piece to be performed So you're saying it's a piece for rare horns. It's a rare piece for horn, played by a medium number of players, and it must be well done. Please pass the salt. Regards, Dave Weiner Brass Arts Unlimited ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Stopping valve
I would caution that the stopping valve is NOT a 1/2 step valve, rather a 3/4 step valve, designed to compensate for the fact that when stopping in Bb the effect is more than 1/2 step. Thus that is why it is on the Bb side of the horn. There is no key change that is effective when using it, [A becomes somewhere between G and Ab for instance.] Also let it be known that Kallison is no longeer in business so that anyone who purchases one of their horns can only get support from their local repairperson. Paxmha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Stopping valve
Most good stopping valve slides are in two pieces, so that the player can choose between stopping and A horn. Dan Is that where they have a manual rotary valve to add or subract the extra length? Paxmaha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Lassus, a couple of other random thoughts
I want to thank everyone who responded to my query for the LA Horn club's Lassus work. I finally FOUND IT! It is not in fact, a madrigal, it is a short sacred motet titleAfflictus Sum. It has been rhythmically altered in spots, [very minorly] but it is the same work. thanks again to all those who gave me advice and suggestions - I'll remember that when I go hunting again. I would also like to say that I have posted an esample of my horn ensemble arranging on the Finale showcase website. I have posted Spinning Song - yes, that infamous piano piece - for 6 horns. The following url should take you to the search page, then just type the title in the appropreate box. http://www.finalemusic.com/showcase/search.aspx You will need a way to view the file, I suggest Finale Reader, a free download that enable one to view all of the Finale product family files [I currently use Printmusic] the following URL should take you there: http://www.finalemusic.com/Reader/Default.aspx If anyone is interested from there I have a catalog of approximately 60+ arrangements for horns and brass that I am williing to give a catalog listing of general info and prices. They can contact me privately. Thanks again to the generous horn community Paxmaha AKA Dave Jewell ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Lassus, a couple of other random thoughts
- Forwarded Message From: David A. Jewell paxm...@yahoo.com To: Carlberg Jones carlbergjo...@prodigy.net.mx Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:29:47 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Lassus, a couple of other random thoughts I originally posted: You will need a way to view the file, I suggest Finale Reader, a free download that enable one to view all of the Finale product family files [I currently use Printmusic] the following URL should take you there: http://www.finalemusic.com/Reader/Default.aspx Then Mr. Jones responded: Or, you could print to PDF and post that. Carlberg Jones I could do that if it were my own website. Finale Showcase is run by Makemusic, the company that produces the Finale and Smartmusic products. Thus you can only post your music in their format. Finale Reader is free, just as is Sibelius Scorch, and they both serve the same purpose. Once you have it open, if your chosen product supports PDF [or you have a pdf creator on your system] then you can save it in that format. If anyone is interested in what else I have to offer contact me privately and I will arrange to send you my listing of over 60+ works for horns and brass. I believe that prices are more than reasonable. Dave Jewell ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Lassus Piece
Thanks for the thoughts, Eldon, but no it is not the Echo Song. I have already transcribed that particular piece. The one I am after is apparently on the second orignal LP, and is only identified by the title Madrigal. I will try to contact Mr. Decker and see if he has any further information. Having the piece would help of course. My best wishes for a blessed Easter. Dave Jewel aka Paxmaha From: Eldon Matlick sooner...@yahoo.com To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 7:42:50 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Lassus Piece I don't have the CD reissue or vinyl here at home, but I believe Richard must be talking about the Lassus 'Echo Song'. It is published by the L.A. Horn Club. It is my understanding now that James Decker has taken over the library and one can now order copies of music from this library of works again. Dr. Eldon Matlick, Horn Professor, University of Oklahoma Principal Hornist, OK City Philharmonic 500 W Boyd Norman, OK 73019 (405) 325-4093 off. (405) 325-7574 fax Conn-Selmer Educational Artist http://ouhorns.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] lassus piece
Hi folks - I would like to know if anyone knows what the actual title is for for the Lassus Madrigal that Huntington Burdick transcribed for the L.A. Horn Club album. It is no. 10 on the CD, and it simply says madrigal. I have this streak in me that has to seek out the original works, and over the last many years have done so for over a dozen pieces I have heard on recordings. I have spent literally hours going through the Lassus Complete Works at my local university and haven't found it yet. I only have about 12 more volumes to go through, but if anyone could save my eyesight I would appreciate it. Dave Jewell aka Paxmaha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Tuning meter recommendations
From: Vincent Duval vindumu...@mac.com To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2009 11:45:02 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Tuning meter recommendations I'll agree with Carlberg, my CA-30 works well and it's cheap. However, most days I'd rather use a tuner that I can hear than use one that can hear me. My old AT-12 has a tone generator that is loud enough to hear while I'm playing, and I find that playing against a drone does more to improve intonation than following an equal-tempered needle or LCD with my eyes. To add to my post about the TM-40 it generates and octave worth of semitones and can be output to an amplifier it it's not loud enough. Paxmaha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Tuner/ Metronome Recommendation
I highly recommend the Korg TM-40. It is their M-30 metronome and T-30 tuner all in one unit. Sam Ash website has it for $33.00 which is less than the cost of both of them separately. In my opinion an instantaneous response on the tuner is more damaging than helpful because if it is that sensitive then it will not show a steady result - the needle will waver all over the place in response to minute pitch changes will are inherent even in a steady pitch. A bit slower response [milliseconds not seconds] and a few milliseconds of peak hold are more helpful in obtaining a result that will benefit the user. just my $.02 [or less in this economy] worth, Paxmaha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] THE FRENCH HORN ; SOME NOTES ON THE EVOLUTION OF THE INSTRUMEN...
I normally use abebooks.com, bn.com [use the out-of-print tab at the top of the page]. I also google rare book dealers and search their sites. Amazon.com may also work, but I have found better prices on other sites. Paxmaha where do you go to buy this book? In a message dated 3/25/2009 9:22:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, em...@magma.cawrites: Hello Steve, An excellent text, well researched; full of historical notes on the development of the horn, as well as notable hornplayers of every epoch. My copy is not for sale, but if you can find one in good condition, buy it. Even if you find one in not-so-good condition, you won't regret it. Sincerely, martin bender ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease
From: Martin Bender em...@magma.ca To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 8:13:37 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Slide Grease ...It's really rendered sheep fat (which has a biologic source) and supports the growth of stuff inside your horn where it is warm and damp-- conditions which bacteria really like. Sincerely, martin bender Not to pick a nit but lanolin is not really sheep fat. It is a naturally occurring chemical that coats the fleece. It comes from the outside of the animal, not the inside. But I agree with the advice about not using it - it can eventually decompose, become really smelly, and the worst of it Martin stated above. Paxmaha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Chou sur la rue
If anyone on the horn list is attending next week's convention of the American Choral Directors Association in Oklahoma City, they will be delighted to learn that the Prof has not been invited to speak, although he will attend to hear the National high school honors chorus will perform one of his compositions. Gotta go, Cabbage ahem - wouldn't that in a manner of speaking, be speaking? Paxmaha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Heinichen question
Heinichen was a fairly prolific concerto composer in Dresden. Unfortunately many of the works which you hear on CD have never actually been published. I have no particular knowledge of the concerto that you mention, but I would check Robert Ostermeyer edition, Thompson edition [the kalmus catalog], and perhaps Recent Researches in the Music of the Baroque series published by AR editions. More and more unpublished manuscripts are being published every year, but as a for instance, a majority of Telemann's compositions remain unpublished. Do you recall who the ensemble was that performed the recording that you heard? I would be interested in hearing it myself. And as a recommendation, if you like the Heinichen, try to find the Zelenka Capriccios- you're in for a treat if you like clarini horn parts. Paxmaha Happy Claamsa and Merry Christmas From: Joyce Rainwalker joycerainwal...@gmail.com To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:30:16 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Heinichen question Hi, all - I heard a piece on the satellite today and tried to track it down. Heinichen's Concerto in F major had some gorgeous horn parts. My web search yielded up a couple of versions of a CD recording, but I'm still trying to find a source for a full score. Wikipedia says that Siebel published the collection of works in 1913 but I'm not clear on who owns the catalog now. Is there a site that will help me track it down? More to the point, what's the range of the high horns? Does anyone have a copy I could see a piece of? My recent chamber orchestra concert has rendered me delusional, probably, believing that we can tackle anything with enough well-planned practice. I suspect a descant might be required, but I thought it might be worth a little more list-enhanced digging. It might be Clamsaa fog, too. Hmmm. Thanks - Joyce (who's figured out that four snow days in one week make for *lots* of extra practice time...) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Ideas for educational concert commemorating Lincoln's 200th birthday
Supposedly Blue Tail Fly was one of his favorite folk songs so I would try to include that. Also I would look to see if there are any arrangements of civil war songs such as Tenting Tonight for instance. Paxmaha From: John Schreckengost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:56:50 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Ideas for educational concert commemorating Lincoln's 200th birthday The educational director of an orchestra I play in has asked if the brass quintet can put together a program in honor of Lincoln's 200th birthday. I thought of including some ofthe following: Selections from the American Brass Band Journal Songs of Stephen Foster Spirituals Battle Hymn of the Republic Quotes of Lincoln could be read between selections. What other ideas do some of you have? John Schreckengost Chicago, IL ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Brahms Horn Studies (op. posth.)
Here is my question to those who know of these - where can one purchase the Brahms etudes? I have checked Thompson Edition and some others but have not found them. Any information is greatly appreciated. Paxmaha From: hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:48:03 AM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Brahms Horn Studies (op. posth.) They were intended for trumpet, not for horn, but Max Zimolong, the famous horn player, edited them. They are twelve etudes not ten. == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Bender Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:38 PM To: The Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] Brahms Horn Studies (op. posth.) Hi David, They used to be available from KaWe Editions Music (in Holland) but since KaWe Editions has been purchased by Herr Pizka, you could most likely order them from him. My understanding is that they were originally published shortly after Brahms's death (circa 1897) and the version I have was edited by Ivan Bialimtchev. Definitely valve horn material! If you are really stuck for the book, contact me off-list. Hope this helps! Sincerely, martin bender On 20-Nov-08, at 3:33 PM, David A. Jewell wrote: Robert D wrote: Brahms did play horn a bit His posthumous horn etudes are interesting too by the way, I've been playing them a bit lately for curiousity. Where can one find these etudes? I for one have not heard of them before. Paxmaha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/embee%40magma .ca ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] apologies to Thompson Edition
After I wrote that I couldn't find the Brahms on the Thompson website David Thompsom wrote: I am sorry to hear that you did not locate that Brahms title on our site. Actually, I would be curious to know what keywords you used unsuccessfully in your search so that we can try to determine why the title did not show up in the search listings, and make any necessary corrections to the item listing in our database. The cost on that publication is $7.95 and you may find it listed on the following page: http://www.thompsonedition.com/product_detail.php?id=40644 Oh boy do I feel more than a little airheaded! There they are right in the horn studies section of the website where I apparently went right over them without seeing them. My apologies for giving anyone the impression that Thompson edition didn't have them. I went there first because they have nearly everything and what they don't have they will get or try their best to. Okay end of apology and my question is answered. Paxmaha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Brahms Trio, Op. 40
the trio is also available on the IMSLP site, http://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page as a PDF file, as are thousands of other full scores and parts. Many are also in Finale and Sibelius formats also. Steve, as regards Lilypond, I know of it but do not know anything about it. Finale and Sibelius are by far the world's most popular notation softwares, but there are others still out there as well, Lilypond among them. Paxmaha From: Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:46:38 AM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Brahms Trio, Op. 40 Thanks very much to everyone for their replies. Hans, a good suggestion - I will listen to a recording. I am fortunate, I found out recently, that the college where I teach has made all of its musical holding available online, not to the public for free, but to faculty and students who must sign in first. I will look this up there and give a listen. Kit, thank you very much for pointing this out. I've printed out the Eb horn version and will play from that (good to keep up my transposing skills and Eb is an easy one.) And I think it's time that I investigate Lilypond software for my own use. A Lilypond question for anyone on this list who might use it - are there any of us? How difficult would it be to take the existing .ly file for horn and change it to print out the horn part for horn in C instead horn in F or Eb? I ask because it might be a good way for me to try to use Lilypond software, which sounds interesting, for the first time, and I enjoy reading from concert pitch parts whenever I can. (It's really just the horn line as it appears in the piano score that I'd like to produce for myself.) I learned computer programming this way - by taking someone else's work and making small changes to it. -S- -Original Message- From: Kit Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:40 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Brahms Trio, Op. 40 The piece is now out of copyright and can be downloaded for free: http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=833 Kit Can anyone tell me a bit about the Brahms Trio, Opus 40? From what I see online, the instrumentation is definitely piano, violin, and a third instrument which can be horn, viola, or cello. How is this piece usually performed? I ask because, in the online sample pages I saw, the Andante first movement looks like I could play it and someone asked me about it earlier today. Here is a link to where I found it online: http://tinyurl.com/556eol or http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/store/smp_detail.html?item=980838cart=3 436094 134647052cm_re=289.1.4-_-Results+Item-_-Title Thanks very much in advance. -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/c.j.l.wolf%40newcastle. ac.uk -- Sometimes my Email program gives the wrong return address. If you have any trouble replying to me, use '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and not 'n802...' Sorry for any confusion ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridays computer.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.6/1797 - Release Date: 11/18/2008 11:23 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.6/1797 - Release Date: 11/20/2008 9:11 AM ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] RE: Brahms Trio Op, 40
Robert D wrote: Brahms did play horn a bit His posthumous horn etudes are interesting too by the way, I've been playing them a bit lately for curiousity. Where can one find these etudes? I for one have not heard of them before. Paxmaha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] New Holton website
I just found out that Holton horns have a new website: www.holton-horns.com. It has all the info on Merkers, Holtons. and Farkas horns as well as a Phil Farkas archive link. Not a bad site all told. Paxmaha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] New Holton website
You're right about that. The period at the end of the url is simply the punctuation at the end of the sentence. Paxmaha From: Bill Gross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:31:43 PM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] New Holton website Please to note that some e-mail software will include the period after /com as part of the web address bringing you to a page not found. The address to avoid trouble is http://www.holton-horns.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Jewell Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 4:24 PM To: horngroup; hornlist Subject: [Hornlist] New Holton website I just found out that Holton horns have a new website: www.holton-horns.com. It has all the info on Merkers, Holtons. and Farkas horns as well as a Phil Farkas archive link. Not a bad site all told. Paxmaha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Gail Williams and Strauss No. 2 review
I should mention that Mr. Ross was also a gracious and patient personality, as he was well liked by the orchestra and was somewhat besieged by all of those who wished to express their compliments on his conducting. Howard - Unfortunately Vestal long ago actually obtained a snide [for regionally specific reasons for those of us who grew up in other neighboring towns] reputation for the complete opposite of one of the definitions of the word. It was said if you wanted to find a virgin you couldn't in Vestal. And unfortunately also Endicott, the founding hometown of IBM has only a token presence of that company left. Paxmaha From: Howard Sanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2008 4:02:10 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Gail Williams and Strauss No. 2 review Quoting David A. Jewell: I had the opportunity to talk to her for a bit and found her to be warm., generous, and extremely gracious as well as down to earth. One of my teachers, the one who taught me how to practice, did her undergrad at Northwestern with Gail Williams and has nothing but the most glowing things to say about her. I want to mention that the concert was guest conducted by James Ross, himself a former hornist of quite some distinction, having been, among other things the first American to be a member of the Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra. He is now the conductor of the University of Maryland orchestra, which I have heard him conduct several times. He plays on Jessye Norman's recording of the Strauss Vier letzte Lieder, which has a luscious horn solo at the end of September (and even more luscious violin solos throughout Beim Schlafengehen). I've resisted the temptation long enough: After the concert did you go to Vestal and search for virgins? ducking and running (I have happy memories of spending the summer of my seventh year in Endicott. Dad worked for IBM.) Howard Sanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Gail Williams and Strauss No. 2 review
Last night Gail Williams performed the Strauss No. 2 with my local symphony. [Binghamton, NY Philharmonic] She performed wonderfully with a full, large tone that still blended with the ensemble when neccessary. Playing on a Karl Hill Geyer model and Hill mouthpiece I was struck by the larger range of dynamic shadings and timbral varieties that she brought out throughout the concerto, much more so than one hears on most recordings. She made this concerto more alive and substantial, even dramatic, to me than it ever has been. I had the opportunity to talk to her for a bit and found her to be warm., generous, and extremely gracious as well as down to earth. [after her performance she spent the second half of the concert in her dressing room practing!!] For all those who might be planning to attend the NE regional workshop in Ithaca she is planning to be there as a performer and to make a recording of some new repetoire after the workshop. I want to mention that the concert was guest conducted by James Ross, himself a former hornist of quite some distinction, having been, among other things the first American to be a member of the Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra. They performed Lutoslawski, Symphonic Variations and the Mendelssohn Scottish Symphony as well as the Strauss, and I don't hesitate to say that the orchestra played excellently. Paxmaha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Gail Williams and Strauss
I would like to let everyone know that Gail Williams will be performing Strauss Concerto No. 2 with the Binghamton, New York Philharmonic on November 7, 2008 at 8 pm. Binghamton is upstate [the real upstate] along the border with Pennsylvania and south of Syracuse, NY. More information can be obtained from the philharmonic website: www.binghamtonphilharmonic.org/default.aspx I have heard Ms. Williams perform the Britten Serenade in concert, and of course we have all heard her with the Chicago Symphony. This should be an excellent concert. Paxmaha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] French Horn for sale - Alexander 1103 (late 1960's)
Hi - the 1103 is Geyer wrap horn, supposed to be a more professional version of the 503. It is one of three geyer style models, the other being the model 200. Paxmaha - Original Message From: Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 1:49:59 PM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] French Horn for sale - Alexander 1103 (late 1960's) Since the Alex 103 is so popular, please tell us what the difference is between a 103 and an 1103? Thanks from someone who has never seen an Alex double other than a 103. -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] SFSO
I just want to congratulate John Ring and the rest of the San Francisco Symphony on the most recent installment of Keeping Score, this time the Eroica by Beethoven. Michael Tilson Thomas was his usual insightful self, and this time Mr. Ring was featured, even demonstrating the 3rd horn part to the 3rd mvmnt. trio on natural horn. Another keeper. Paxmaha ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 69, Issue 5
Neither did I originally, then I looked at the titles of some of the albums that came up and it is the David Lamb Blasts from the Past [I think that is the title] album. I could not get any of the titles to actually play on my computer though. Paxmaha - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2008 1:59:19 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 69, Issue 5 didn't work, didn't get anything on john little search ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 69, Issue 5
I did get them to play but I had to reassign certain file extensions to quicktime instead of Mediaplayer. I hadn't done that earlier. Paxmaha - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2008 6:12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 69, Issue 5 In a message dated 07/09/2008 23:04:53 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Neither did I originally, then I looked at the titles of some of the albums that came up and it is the David Lamb Blasts from the Past [I think that is the title] album. I could not get any of the titles to actually play on my computer though. Paxmaha I got them to play through the itunes player lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Worship Band
Unfortunately there are no really good charts done for worship band with a horn section. Many guitar/bass/keyboard type charts, however. I would suggest maybe finding a book that in lead sheet format [melody with piano accompaniment and chord symbols above the melody] and attempting to use that as a basis for transcribing the songs that you select. Word Music, Integrity Music, and several other companies have these available. Check with your local christian book store or go to their websites for more info. Paxmaha - Original Message From: Ashley Grothe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 1:20:14 AM Subject: [Hornlist] Worship Band I attend a smaller, more conservative church and the youth there are trying to bring some new thing to the services to spice things up. We really want to have a worship band that includes all of our music playing youth. I looked in a couple places, but could not quite find what I was looking for in music. I was wondering if anyone out there might have a solution... We are looking for well known and modern Christian (anyone know Casting Crowns?) rather than hymnesque pieces. And our instrumentation would be a set player, piano, trombone, horn, trumpet, bass guitar, and accoustic guitar. I know this is really specific, but that is probably why I am struggling to find something. Google only goes so far... *sigh* I would really appreciate any help! Thanks! _ The i’m Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] low horn/ bass cleff
So I take it you can hit all those wolf notes? Paxmaha - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2008 6:56:14 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] low horn/ bass cleff In a message dated 7/9/2008 5:15:17 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Obviously, if the original poster is female, singing bass may in fact be possible, but not probable. Paxmaha Hi Pax, I always sang bass until the accident. Now only dogs can hear me sing. Regards,Jerry in Kansas City **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] low horn/ bass cleff
I would like to suggest that if the person needing to learn bass clef is male, that singing bass in a choir or other vocal ensemble is an excellent way to learn the staff, and also help train the ear. Tenors often use the displaced octave treble clef, so they don't always get the opportunity to use bass clef. Obviously, if the original poster is female, singing bass may in fact be possible, but not probable. Paxmaha - ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Bohemian Rhapsody
Ashley Grothe: On it was a recording of Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen, but played by horns and couple other back-up instrumentsI was just wondering if anyone knew where I might be able to find a copy of sheet music for this piece. The CD is The London Horn Sound available from the store at poperepair.com and the music is available from the url http://tinyurl.com/77j6h as Dan Phillips already wrote. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Friday, June 6, 2008 3:58:15 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Music I have a french horn friend who gave me a burnt CD of a bunch of horn pieces (solos, duets, choirs, etc.). It was unmarked and he had it forever (along with SEVERAL french horn disks) so he didn't remember for sure where it came from. I found a video of what appears to be the same arrangement (or maybe group, i don't know) on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSXvqRXaJ0M) I know this is really vague, and unlikely to turn anything up, but I wondered if anyone else out there knew what I was talking about and could help me out. I wish I had more information, sorry. Ashley _ It’s easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live™ Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] conductors
Not being able to remember which list had the thread about conducting, I'll just send this short joke I found on a joke website to both A man and his son were walking through a cemetery. The boy asked, Daddy, do they bury two people in the same grave? The father said, Two people? Let me look. So the father took a look, and sure enough, the marker said, Here lies a symphony conductor and a humble man. Hope everyone has a fun weekend. Paxmaha You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] nhr: analog to digital recording transfer
Greetings... As indicated, this post is NHR. I'd like advice on how to transfer older, analog recordings, including cassette tapes, LPs, and even reel-to-reel (!) to digital format (specifically, CDs). Any advice would be appreciated off-list. Thanks! Jonathan Yoder Hellio Jonathon - before I start my reply a caution - this is a long answer to a short question. The first decision you have to make concerns whether or not you want to edit or restore the analog recordings. If you want to edit/restore, etc. standard procedure is to use a computer and recording/editing software and any available resoration plug-ins. Your other, far simpler choice is to use a standalone CD recorder or digital recorder. If this is the way that you want to go then you lose any ability to remove tape hiss, lp noise, apply corrective eq, etc. However when doing any archiving it is highly recommended if the original is analog that before doing any restoration that you make an unaltered full stereo file at the highest resolution/bit rate that you can. [I won't discuss bit-rate/resolution/sample rate here and now - it's another magazine size debate!] You can use a tape player hooked into your stereo receiver and a CD recorder hooked into any standard line or auxiliary output. Do not use a phone output or input except with the turntable, which must absolutely be connected to the phono input on the receiver. There is an extra EQ stage in a phono preamplifier which must be used for correct sound from an lp. Then following your cd recorder's manual record through the receiver into the recorder. pretty simple once you get the hang of it. The more complex route is to use a computer and recording/editing software. To get the audio from your source into your computer there are currently three portals - the pci card slot, the usb port or the firewire port. There are interfaces [hardware devices] with various numbers of inputs that connect to each type. [none that I know of that connect to more than one kind at a time.] Use of these interfaces typically requires installation of software drivers to establish a connection to your system. Once you have the interface established, you will need software - Protools, Cubase, Nuendo, Bias, Ableton, etc. there are literally tens of companies perhaps hundreds that have applicable programs. Audacity is often mentioned as useful - its free but I have never used it so I can't tell you any specifics about it. 80 to 90 percent of all recording studios use Protools and Nuendo/Cubase, but for straight restoration projects I couldn't tell you what is considered the most standard.Mr. Ovitsky from Sotone would have volumes more useful information about specific software. Before I go any further, let me say a word about inputs - cd players, cassette and reel decks, and md players and such are at line level a specific voltage and ohmage of electrical signal output. Mic inputs are at an entirely different level of voltage, as are elecric guitars and other electronic instruments, hence the need for the ability of your interface to have or be able to switch the inputs to each type. Most typically there are two mic inputs, and two line/guitar/instrument switchable inputs on a consumer interface. Headphones are at an astronomically different resistance [ohms] so it is not advisable for best results to use that output to feed your recording device. The chain for recording to your computer is this: output device - [either direct or through a reciever] - interface - recording software. Note that you can use the interface with a microphone so once you have this setup you can make excellent practice session recordings. There is another more commonplace solution and that is one of the various mini or handheld two to four track recorders made by Zoom, Boss, Sony, Edirol, M-audio, Roland, Yamaha, Korg and others. These come either with built in microphones or mic inputs, the latter are either supplemented with a stereo line input or the xlr inputs are switchable for line input levels. These are excellent devices pretty much across the board for general usage. Once the audio is captured into these devices they are normally connected to the computer via USB or Firewire and then the process is the same as that for regular interface/software recording. In other words, the handheld recorder becomes the interface for the computer, then can also be used for location and live recording situations. Interfaces can be had for under $200 dollars and most come with a very useful version of recording software [normally Cubase]. For reference look at the following sites fullcompass.com, sweetwater.com, bhproaudio.com, digidesign.com and check out Recording and EQ magazines. I also highly reccommend getting to the public library and checking out any books on the subject - the more you know the nuts and bolts of this stuff the easier it actually is.
Re: [Hornlist] RE:King Eroika horn
I played on an Eroica in college. While home on a break, I recorded myself in my church sanctuary and was pretty amazed at my sound - large, open while still retaining a nice darkness, a true horn sound. I later changed to a yamaha and only much much later began to realize that the cachet of having a cut bell didn't compensate for the change in my sound. If you look at a McCracken wrap, you can see certain similarities, Mr. McCracken having designed the Eroica. Paxmanha Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Wah-wahs
The learned Prof C wrote Even if your horn has a conical bore, just install an Amado key or two, and you won't have to worry about wah wah any more. to which Paxmaha, ever eager for knowledge, responded: Cabbage- do you know of any valve that will help when the player has to go wah-wah at an inappropriate time? * Thanks to the skills of my urologist, I no longer have to worry about this. Luckily, the procedure did not involve the installation of any Amado keys. Don't gotta go, Cabbage Yes, but what exactly did he install? Paxmaha Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Vintage dress - NHR
Sunday, March 2, 2008 Ellen Manthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] most of the interest seems to be held by those who probably, with only very few, if any, exceptions, will ever wear the dress, unless it is made into a vest, tie, or boxers. While a vest or boxers would be great there are other possibilities: a man might want to get it for the woman in our lives, or I dare I say it - they might actually want it for themself. I have learned that one never knows until it's all said and done. Paxmaha Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Pro horn cleaning question
I would suggest an ultrasonic cleaning as done by Ken Pope or the Brass bow and now most certainly by other technicians. It does not use chemicals and removes more crud than a chemclean. I know you said not to suggest it, but if chemical cleaning hasn't made you happy then I would seek something different. The cost has been getting very close to that of a normal cleaning, and more and more techs are doing it. Alternatively, Reka [http://www.reka-web.com/english/] sells excellent products as does Hornflush [http://www.hornflush.com/]. They make it very easy for anyone to do at home, provided they take a little care and pay attention to the process. Understand too that if you have let the horn go awhile, when it [comes back all clean inside it will play more like new. I remember being given my high schools' first double horn all new in the fall and in the early spring [only 7-8 months later] cleaning it in my bathtub. Thank goodness I had done it several weeks before solo festival because even then it played very differently - I had acclimated to the changes in resistance over time and had not realized that I was doing so. Paxmaha - Original Message From: Scott Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everybody, My horn needs to be cleaned out but I am procrastinating because every time I get it cleaned out it comes back not to my liking. Once it got bright dipped and it came back a strange lime color and I was told by a horn maker that it reduces the life of the horn significantly. Once it wasn't cleaned out well and you could tell there was grit left in the valves. Ow. By the way please don't suggest ultrasonic cleaning. Maybe some other time... I have a couple of questions: 1) How much would it cost me to buy the chemicals for the repairman so I can make sure they are clean and pure when used on my horn? 2) How difficult or dangerous would it be for someone of average ability to do the job? I can take the valves apart and put them back together and take out small dents. I appreciate any information you could give me, on the list or off. Scott ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Pro horn cleaning question
Thanks for the update. I did not know that Wayne was with Yamaha, I was going by some older newspaper articles. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Friday, February 1, 2008 2:22:58 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Pro horn cleaning question Just FYI, The Brassbow is essentially out of business.? If you go to their web site, it's a shell.? Wayne Tanabe moved over to YASI (Yamaha Artist Services), and TTBOMK he has been unsuccessful at his attempts to sell The Brassbow.? If anyone knows anything to the contrary I would be pleased to hear it. Dave Weiner Brass Arts Unlimited -Original Message- From: David A. Jewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 12:05 pm Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Pro horn cleaning question I would suggest an ultrasonic cleaning as done by Ken Pope or the Brass bow and now most certainly by other technicians. It does not use chemicals and removes more crud than a chemclean. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/brassartsunlim%40aol.com More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Merry Christmas
I want to wish all of the many hornlisters Merry Christmas, and many blessings for the Holidays and the coming New Year. Thank you to the many people who have answered my questions, put up with some inanity in my attempts to be witty, and have given me excellent advice and encouragement. May the clams be fewer than in the past, and may the love and adoration our instrument inspires continue to fulfill and satisfy your hearts. Paxmaha aka Dave Jewell Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha 667V
I beg to differ. The wraps are similar except for two major differences. The use of the dual plane valve is one, and the unique wrap of the 1st Bb slide [it enters underneath the 1st F valve slide] are quite substantial I agree. The rest of the wrap is very definitely similar to the normal Geyer style 667. - Original Message From: Hunt,Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:29:00 AM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Yamaha 667V the 667 and the 667v have nothing to do with each other. They are completely different horns. their wraps are not even close to similar Yamaha should have stuck with the 800 designation, like 861 and 867 for their custom horns. Calling 667v is a misnomer. tom in iowa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ishizaki Sent: Sat 12/15/2007 9:41 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha 667V On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:42:22 -0500 Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having owned and enjoyed a Yamaha 667 with detachable bell for a while, I would like to know what the v means after the 667. v means valve is somewhat special. In case of 667V, the change valve is a patented Dual Plane Valve. This naming rule is just for Horns, not for other instruments. Regards, | Yoshinobu Ishizaki | ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/huntt%40waldorf.edu -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Recordings/Advice
If anyone has the track listing to the James Chambers Plays Horn album [nearest as I can recall to the actual title] I would appreciate them sending it privately to me. I have only the cassette that I recorded almost thirty years ago, I have somehow lost the case with the information on it. I do know it has the Heiden Concerto, and the Corelli Sonate in F on it. I would also appreciate any advice on where to go to have a website hosted, I am ready to take my publications and arrangements online and am uncertain which service to look at. One guideline - they have to be cheap 'cause my budget is minimal. thanks in advance for any and all help. Paxmaha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Concert Band question - upright bass
Having a string bass in the concert or symphonic band is actually not at all new, but dates from the 19th century- When band concerts were a primary source of community entertainment, in many towns and villages it was the only place to hear the latest classical music hits. The string bass was included because of the scarcity of tubas, availability of bass players, and entirely my own theory - because it gave a veneer of depth to the presentation of the music. [i.e. it looked more like a symphony orchestra] It continued as a standard practice, but if you review many 20th century American band scores you will not find a string bass, but stronger and more resilient and structurally important tuba and bass trombone parts. The inclusion of string bass parts is recurring, perhaps as a nod to tradition, but based on my recent educational experiences, because of the lack of student tuba players, and as a response to a need expressed by current middle and high school band directors. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Kruspe and Benge MP, band music
I would hasten to add that Alfred Reed always had interesting if not glorious horn parts, and James Barnes Chance and Clifton Williams wrote solid, musical parts. And then there is the chorale section of Eternal Father Strong to Save. Paxmaha - Original Message From: Valerie WELLS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn1 list horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:55:50 AM Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Kruspe and Benge MP, band music It's true that some of the horn parts for band music could be more interesting, but there's lots of good stuff out there. Take a look at: Hanson's Chorale Alleluia, Jenkins's American Overture, Persichetti's Pagent, Thomson's A Solemn Music, and Still's From the Delta. In American Overture, the horn section is featured the parts are really fun. loaaded w/ personality, not to mention challenging for articulation endurance. In From the Delta there's some oom-pahs but there's also some very expressive harmonic parts for horns a gorgeous jazzy obligato the whole section takes turns doing in the third movement. I love the variety in band music. About oom-pah parts: I enjoy 'em, especially when they are harmonic played well. I get a big kick out of that particular sound that only a good horn section can make. Nobody else can do what we do. ~Valerie ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org