[Hornlist] New Horn
I currently play a Paxman 23L, but am looking for a new horn. I have found the resistance to be a bit much, especially in the high register. Does anyone have some suggestions for horns to look at that are more free blowing (between Engelbert Schmid and a medium resistance horn) and are kind of standard horns which are easy to blend with an orchestra? Thanks, Joel ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 75, Issue 29
> > Steve, For the most part, the repairman said to leave the caps alone. Maybe once every 1 or 2 weeks put a drop under the caps just to keep the bearing lubricated. Since the oil should be thicker, it wont evaporate or move as fast as the light oil put through the slides. He also suggested I oil through the slides everyday because it is so thin. Bill, I was using isopropyl alcohol, I just used the common name. Joel > > > message: 9 > date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:58:55 -0400 > from: Steve Freides > subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 75, Issue 20 > > Joel, just to clarify, this means that what you've found works for you > is to _not_ unscrew the caps on the rotor and apply oil there, but > just to pull the slides and put oil in that way? I just want to make > sure I understand what you're saying. I've also taken to oiling my > valves this way and it seems to be working better for me, too. I used > to only apply it to the tops of the rotors, and I think I may give my > current horn a bath and then just oil via the slides and see how that > works. > > -S- > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Joel Gilbert > wrot= > e: > > I talked to my repairman over the weekend, and he and I talked about how > = > I > > oil my horn. =C2=A0Basically I was over oiling the bearings of the > rotors= > , and in > > doing so the oil was covering the sides of the rotors and slowing > everyth= > ing > > down. =C2=A0He suggested =C2=A0that I rise out my rotors with rubbing > alc= > ohol and then > > just reoil the sides of the rotors. After doing this, everything has > work= > ed > > significantly better. Instead of oiling the bearings everyday, now I just > > oil the bearing when either they start making noise or once a week. > > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Joel Gilbert > wro= > te: > > > >> Hi Mr. Weiner, > >> > >> > >> I was using hetman light rotor oil for the top, al cass for down the > >> slides, and very little stp oil treatment for the slides. =C2=A0The > roto= > rs didnt > >> slow down until I reoiled them about 5 days after I got the horn back > fr= > om > >> the repairman. =C2=A0To oil it, I usually put oil into the slides, push > = > them the > >> whole way in, and invert the horn. =C2=A0My horn has brass rotors. =C2= > =A0Any ideas as > >> to what caused it/what I should use? =C2=A0It's a fairly new horn, so > th= > e rotors > >> arent too worn yet. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Joel > >> > >>> > >>> message: 4 > >>> date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:35:35 -0400 > >>> from: Brass Arts Unlimited > >>> subject: [Hornlist] Oil > >>> > >>> >> I play on a Paxman 23 and recently had it cleaned. =C2=A0I had been > = > using > >>> Hetman > >>> light rotor oil down the slides and Hetman rotor oil on the bearings. > >>> Before I had it cleaned the valves were getting kind of sticky, thus > th= > e > >>> cleaning. =C2=A0When I got it back, the repairman said to use Al Cass > d= > own the > >>> slides and a slightly thicker oil on the top. =C2=A0In proceeding with > = > this > >>> recommendation, I found that my rotors slowed down to a crawl. > =C2=A0Do= > es > >>> anyone > >>> have any different recommendations as to what to do about this? > =C2=A0T= > hey are > >>> basically no better than before I had them cleaned right now. << > >>> > >>> Joel, > >>> > >>> This could be happening for any of several reasons. =C2=A0Before > answer= > ing your > >>> question, I would want to know: > >>> - what are you using for a "thicker oil on the top"? > >>> - what are you using for slide grease? > >>> - what is your exact procedure for oiling your horn? > >>> - were the valves slow immediately after you got the horn back, or did > = > it > >>> take a while (and if so, how long)? > >>> - does this horn have titanium rotors? > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Dave Weiner > >>> Brass Arts Unlimited > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Joel Gilbert > > ___ > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/h= > orn/steve.freides%40gmail
[Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 75, Issue 20
I talked to my repairman over the weekend, and he and I talked about how I oil my horn. Basically I was over oiling the bearings of the rotors, and in doing so the oil was covering the sides of the rotors and slowing everything down. He suggested that I rise out my rotors with rubbing alcohol and then just reoil the sides of the rotors. After doing this, everything has worked significantly better. Instead of oiling the bearings everyday, now I just oil the bearing when either they start making noise or once a week. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Joel Gilbert wrote: > Hi Mr. Weiner, > > > I was using hetman light rotor oil for the top, al cass for down the > slides, and very little stp oil treatment for the slides. The rotors didnt > slow down until I reoiled them about 5 days after I got the horn back from > the repairman. To oil it, I usually put oil into the slides, push them the > whole way in, and invert the horn. My horn has brass rotors. Any ideas as > to what caused it/what I should use? It's a fairly new horn, so the rotors > arent too worn yet. > > Thanks, > > Joel > >> >> message: 4 >> date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:35:35 -0400 >> from: Brass Arts Unlimited >> subject: [Hornlist] Oil >> >> >> I play on a Paxman 23 and recently had it cleaned. I had been using >> Hetman >> light rotor oil down the slides and Hetman rotor oil on the bearings. >> Before I had it cleaned the valves were getting kind of sticky, thus the >> cleaning. When I got it back, the repairman said to use Al Cass down the >> slides and a slightly thicker oil on the top. In proceeding with this >> recommendation, I found that my rotors slowed down to a crawl. Does >> anyone >> have any different recommendations as to what to do about this? They are >> basically no better than before I had them cleaned right now. << >> >> Joel, >> >> This could be happening for any of several reasons. Before answering your >> question, I would want to know: >> - what are you using for a "thicker oil on the top"? >> - what are you using for slide grease? >> - what is your exact procedure for oiling your horn? >> - were the valves slow immediately after you got the horn back, or did it >> take a while (and if so, how long)? >> - does this horn have titanium rotors? >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Dave Weiner >> Brass Arts Unlimited >> >> > -- Joel Gilbert ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 75, Issue 20
> > Hi Mr. Weiner, I was using hetman light rotor oil for the top, al cass for down the slides, and very little stp oil treatment for the slides. The rotors didnt slow down until I reoiled them about 5 days after I got the horn back from the repairman. To oil it, I usually put oil into the slides, push them the whole way in, and invert the horn. My horn has brass rotors. Any ideas as to what caused it/what I should use? It's a fairly new horn, so the rotors arent too worn yet. Thanks, Joel > > message: 4 > date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:35:35 -0400 > from: Brass Arts Unlimited > subject: [Hornlist] Oil > > >> I play on a Paxman 23 and recently had it cleaned. I had been using > Hetman > light rotor oil down the slides and Hetman rotor oil on the bearings. > Before I had it cleaned the valves were getting kind of sticky, thus the > cleaning. When I got it back, the repairman said to use Al Cass down the > slides and a slightly thicker oil on the top. In proceeding with this > recommendation, I found that my rotors slowed down to a crawl. Does anyone > have any different recommendations as to what to do about this? They are > basically no better than before I had them cleaned right now. << > > Joel, > > This could be happening for any of several reasons. Before answering your > question, I would want to know: > - what are you using for a "thicker oil on the top"? > - what are you using for slide grease? > - what is your exact procedure for oiling your horn? > - were the valves slow immediately after you got the horn back, or did it > take a while (and if so, how long)? > - does this horn have titanium rotors? > > -- > Regards, > > Dave Weiner > Brass Arts Unlimited > > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Oil
I play on a Paxman 23 and recently had it cleaned. I had been using Hetman light rotor oil down the slides and Hetman rotor oil on the bearings. Before I had it cleaned the valves were getting kind of sticky, thus the cleaning. When I got it back, the repairman said to use Al Cass down the slides and a slightly thicker oil on the top. In proceeding with this recommendation, I found that my rotors slowed down to a crawl. Does anyone have any different recommendations as to what to do about this? They are basically no better than before I had them cleaned right now. Thanks, Joel ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Pan American Natural Horn
Hi, I was looking through the hornplayer.net site, and found a natural horn of Pan American make. I have been looking into purchasing a natural horn and the price is right, but I have never heard of that company. There is nothing that I can find on that company either. Does anyone know the history and quality of horns produced by that company? Thanks, Joel ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Opinions on methods
Hi Gary, I don't know much about the Singer and Schantl books, but I do use the Dufrasne book every day. I have found that it is quite effective in promoting a relaxed/flexible lip and the right speed of air. The only fault that I have found with it is that it does not have any articulation exercises except for the arpeggios at the end. I supplement the arpeggios at the end with "K bells" which is a power exercise originally by Mr. William Klingelhoffer and given to me by Professor Bacon. If you are looking for other books like the Dufrasne, I would suggest the Standley Routine, the Douglas Hill book, or the Teuber book. Joel Hi, I would like to hear (read) some opinions regarding a few method books: Singer Dufrasne Schantl I already know what I think of them. I'm curious what others think. Gary ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Hindemith Sonata
Hi everyone., I recently started looking at the Hindemith Sonata and am looking for some background history on the piece. I've been looking around on google but nothing really significant has shown up. Does anyone know anything about the piece that would help with interpreting what kind of character he was going for? Did he write it for a specific person? That sort of thing. Thanks, Joel ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Dan Carter's contact info
Hi, I've been a member of this list for some time now. I've just never commented on anything before. Anyhow, I was wondering if any of you knows Dan Carter's contact information? He was a member of the NSO for 30 years and my former teacher suggested that I take lessons from him while I'm home for the summer. Sincerely, Joel ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
