Re: [HOT] TM3 random task selection ignoring priority area

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Thanks for the report Florian.
Indeed. Unlike to what was done in version 2, the random task is not
preferably taken in the priority areas. I will open an issue in Github
and will label it as regression.

Pierre

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:25 PM, Florian Kratochwil
 wrote:
> As I have no idea how to report feedback on GitHub (where the feedback link
> leeds me to). So I am posting it here in hope someone hears it.
>
> When mapping on task #3837 if I click "select random task" for mapping, I
> get tasks outside the priority area, but there are free unlocked, unmapped
> task in the priority area as well. I guess this is a bug?
>
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Re: [HOT] Issue with Tasking Manager

[Pierre GIRAUD]

I don't think so. If it was the case the tasking manager would answer
with a message telling that the task doesn't exist.
Example:
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/5#task/91

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 2:20 PM, "Michael Heißmeier"
 wrote:
> Could it be that this task once existed but disappeared because it was
> split?
>
>
> Michael
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. August 2017 um 12:37 Uhr
> Von: "Nirab Pudasaini" 
> An: hot 
> Betreff: [HOT] Issue with Tasking Manager
> I am not sure if this is a bug or something but one of the task in tasking
> manager cannot be selected. You can check it by clicking this link.
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3406#task/626
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Re: [HOT] Issue with Tasking Manager

[Pierre GIRAUD]

This indeed looks like a bug.

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Nirab Pudasaini
 wrote:
> I am not sure if this is a bug or something but one of the task in tasking
> manager cannot be selected. You can check it by clicking this link.
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3406#task/626
>
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Re: [HOT] How to get the name of the creator of a task on the Tasking Manager?

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You are right. The Indonesian instance runs a older version.

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Michael Reichert  wrote:
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> Am 29.07.2017 um 18:14 schrieb Pierre GIRAUD:
>> It's also written at the bottom of the "description" tab.
>
> I am logged in into the *Indonesian* instance and the information is
> missing on the description tab. There is just the green button
> "instructions" which links to the instructions tab.
>
> http://tasks.openstreetmap.id/project/43
>
> Does the Indonesian instance use an older version? Or is it just a bug
> because the description is empty? If it is so, I will have a look at
> the bug tracker on Github.
>
> Best regards
>
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Re: [HOT] How to get the name of the creator of a task on the Tasking Manager?

[Pierre GIRAUD]

It's also written at the bottom of the "description" tab.

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Michael Reichert  wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> Am 29.07.2017 um 18:10 schrieb john whelan:
>> Search for the number in http://tasks.hotosm.org/ the creator is at the
>> bottom.
>
> Thanks you. I just looked at the page of the task itself and did not try
> to search for the number of the task.
>
> Best regards
>
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Re: [HOT] Fwd: OpenBadges and HOT - Here we go !

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

Sorry to dig out this old thread. Also I'm sorry because this is not
completely related to HOT.

I'm interested to get feedback on OpenBadges. I'd be interested to
know why HOT (Blake ?) chose OpenBadges.

While I like the idea of badges (pretty images), OpenBadges doesn't
seem to be spread a lot. I can't find any good example of people using
this as a CV. One can share the link on LinkedIn but this may appear
(and get lost) in an activity feed. Note: there's a "Certification"
section but badges don't go there unfortunately.

Also the back ref to http://backpack.openbadges.org doesn't even give
the name to the guy who earns the badge.
Here's mine for example :
https://backpack.openbadges.org/share/62327061801a10e7eb5bf8e300610ce5/
Well, I have more information here :
http://courses.hotosm.org/badges/badge.php?hash=2ba255d4e5dfc5bc309e37b847c4517df61df547

Badges on MissingMaps are not OpenBadges, are they?
http://www.missingmaps.org/users/#/359133/badges

Does anyone have experience to share about OpenBadges and/or other
kind of certification?

Thanks a lot.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Stefan Keller  wrote:
> Blake wrote Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:19 AM
>> I am pretty sure you can see them without being logged in anywhere.
>
> Having an overview what (badges) can be earned is motivating for users.
> I'm new to OpenBadges and I can't find any badges, like we did for our
> Kort game for OpenStreetMap [1].
>
> :Stefan
>
> [1] Kort Game (soon relaunched ): 
> http://www.kort.ch/presentation/symposium/#/5
>
>
> 2016-03-16 9:44 GMT+01:00 Katja Ulbert :
>> Hi all,
>>
>> we had so much fun creating them and I can´t wait to do some more :-)
>> everybody ´s welcome to give input and come up with ideas, we need looots of
>> them...
>>
>> Katja
>>
>>
>> On 16/03/16 06:00, Heather Leson wrote:
>>
>> Great stuff.
>>
>> Katja, thanks for doing the designs!
>>
>>
>> Heather
>>
>> Heather Leson
>> heatherle...@gmail.com
>> Twitter: HeatherLeson
>> Blog: textontechs.com
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Blake Girardot 
>> Date: Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] OpenBadges and HOT - Here we go !
>> To: Stefan Keller 
>> Cc: HOT 
>>
>>
>> Hi Stefan,
>>
>> I am pretty sure you can see them without being logged in anywhere.
>> Hopefully you can, you should be able to I think. If you can not, please let
>> me know and I will see if I have something set incorrectly.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> blake
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/15/2016 9:00 PM, Stefan Keller wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Blake
>>>
>>> You wrote:
>>>>
>>>> PS: Katja designed and created all the badges for us!
>>>
>>>
>>> Nice idea using openbadges.
>>> Just to be curious (and I know gamers are that too):
>>> Can I see these HOT badges without being logged in on openbadges?
>>>
>>> :Stefan
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-03-15 20:09 GMT+01:00 Blake Girardot :
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I just wanted to let you know that HOT has started issuing Mozilla Open
>>>> Badges compatible badges from our HOT Courses website:
>>>>
>>>> http://courses.hotosm.org/
>>>>
>>>> At the moment they are only available for the HOT Activation Coordinator
>>>> courses, but more will be coming for general mapping related courses as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> You can also expect to see earned badges show up more in our regular HOT
>>>> tools, mainly the Tasking Manager :)
>>>>
>>>> You can see how far I have gotten in the HOT Activation Curriculum so far
>>>> here:
>>>>
>>>> https://backpack.openbadges.org/share/c34372d4095fbd14ac4749df419fcbc4/
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I am still a trainee, but not for long :)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Blake
>>>>
>>>> PS: Katja designed and created all the badges for us!
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Re: [HOT] Task Manager slowness

[Pierre GIRAUD]

I'm sorry for that but this is not a "Tasking Manager" issue. The fact
is that the application is installed on a server on which an other
process takes a lot of resources every 2 minutes for 30-40 seconds.
When this happens, other applications on this server are also slow.
You can check the HOT website and you'll see a bad behavior as well.

Pierre

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Pete Masters
 wrote:
> Still slow for me
>
>
> Pete
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 7:41 AM, Ralf Stephan  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, that was quick!
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 8:15 AM Ralf Stephan  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> The TM is quite sluggish for some days now at least. Can someone please
>>> help?
>>>
>>> Regards,
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Re: [HOT] Tasking manager project data

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hey Pete!

The following will help you:
http://tasks.hotosm.org/projects.json?sort_by=priority&direction=asc&search=missing+maps&show_archived=on

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Pete Masters  wrote:
> Until you add a space! 'missing maps' = 37 pages ;)
>
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/?sort_by=priority&direction=asc&search=missing+maps&show_archived=on
>
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 3:46 PM, joost schouppe 
> wrote:
>>
>> It looks like it's only 5 pages?
>>
>>
>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/?direction=asc&page=5&search=missingmaps&show_archived=on&sort_by=priority
>>
>> If that's correct, I'd just collect the numbers manually and make a little
>> spreadsheet out of them. Then you can use a formula like
>> =concatenate("http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/";REFERENCE TO THE CELL WITH
>> THE NUMBER,"/tasks.json" to generate the needed links and start clicking
>> away.
>>
>> Well, okay, still painful of course :)
>>
>> 2016-10-03 14:36 GMT+02:00 Pierre GIRAUD :
>>>
>>> Hi Pete,
>>>
>>> I'm afraid there's nothing built-in currently to do this. Sorry.
>>>
>>> Pierre
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Pete Masters 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi all, we are doing a review exercise of MSF-related Missing Maps
>>> > mapping.
>>> > Is there a way to export the data for Tasking Manager projects. For
>>> > example,
>>> > all the projects created by a specific username? Or all projects with
>>> > #MissingMaps specified in the changeset comment?
>>> >
>>> > Otherwise, I'm gonna have to it manually, which will be painful.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> > Pete
>>> >
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Re: [HOT] Tasking manager project data

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Pete,

I'm afraid there's nothing built-in currently to do this. Sorry.

Pierre

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Pete Masters  wrote:
> Hi all, we are doing a review exercise of MSF-related Missing Maps mapping.
> Is there a way to export the data for Tasking Manager projects. For example,
> all the projects created by a specific username? Or all projects with
> #MissingMaps specified in the changeset comment?
>
> Otherwise, I'm gonna have to it manually, which will be painful.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
>
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Re: [HOT] Mapping request from MSF

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Done

Le jeu. 28 juil. 2016 à 14:21, Pete Masters  a
écrit :

> Just to update, we have changed the imagery instructions slightly again as
> often MapBox is as good if not better than Bing.
>
> Instructions now read:
>
> Please switch between both *Bing and MapBox* imagery for this project.
> They are both available and checking both will improve accuracy. *You can
> switch between the two last used images in iD easily by using CTRL-B.*
>
> If someone can update the French...! Thanks.
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Pete Masters  > wrote:
>
>> Much appreciated ;)
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 10:10 AM, FOFANA BAZO BAGNOUMANA <
>> fofana.13b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Tanks for This Pierre
>>>
>>> Le jeu. 28 juil. 2016 à 9:03, Pierre GIRAUD  a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> French translation updated.
>>>>
>>>> Le jeu. 28 juil. 2016 à 10:53, Pete Masters 
>>>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Good advice, Rafael. I have updated the instructions tab. If anyone
>>>>> can make the changes in French it would help (or just send me the text and
>>>>> I'll edit the project).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your contributions so far!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Rafael Avila Coya <
>>>>> ravilac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Pete:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've done 2 tasks [1], and I've seen that Mapbox, apart from being
>>>>>> well aligned with Bing, clarifies lots of buildings that are difficult or
>>>>>> very difficult to spot with dark Bing imagery. So I think adding Mapbox
>>>>>> would be a good idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would also ask mapper to align some of the highways, as otherwise
>>>>>> they intersect with buildings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafael.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2041#task/32 and
>>>>>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2041#task/33
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27/07/16 17:49, Pete Masters wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quick request... MSF urgently needs data for teams in Kinshasa
>>>>>>> battling
>>>>>>> the yellow fever outbreak.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2041 (just buildings on this one)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the first of (probably) a few areas needing mapping. More
>>>>>>> details in the tasking manager project description. Vaccination set
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> start early - mid August. Team has asked if we can have the mapping
>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>> by the 8th August.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have any questions, please let me know. If you have some time,
>>>>>>> your contribution would be much appreciated, either mapping or
>>>>>>> validating
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>> +44 7921 781 518
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> missingmaps.org <http://www.missingmaps.org/>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> _@theMissingMaps_ <https://twitter.com/TheMissingMaps>
>>>>>>> _facebook.com/MissingMapsProject_
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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Re: [HOT] Mapping request from MSF

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French translation updated.

Le jeu. 28 juil. 2016 à 10:53, Pete Masters  a
écrit :

> Good advice, Rafael. I have updated the instructions tab. If anyone can
> make the changes in French it would help (or just send me the text and I'll
> edit the project).
>
> Thanks for your contributions so far!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Rafael Avila Coya 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Pete:
>>
>> I've done 2 tasks [1], and I've seen that Mapbox, apart from being well
>> aligned with Bing, clarifies lots of buildings that are difficult or very
>> difficult to spot with dark Bing imagery. So I think adding Mapbox would be
>> a good idea.
>>
>> I would also ask mapper to align some of the highways, as otherwise they
>> intersect with buildings.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rafael.
>>
>> [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2041#task/32 and
>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2041#task/33
>>
>> On 27/07/16 17:49, Pete Masters wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Quick request... MSF urgently needs data for teams in Kinshasa battling
>>> the yellow fever outbreak.
>>>
>>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2041 (just buildings on this one)
>>>
>>> This is the first of (probably) a few areas needing mapping. More
>>> details in the tasking manager project description. Vaccination set to
>>> start early - mid August. Team has asked if we can have the mapping done
>>> by the 8th August.
>>>
>>> If you have any questions, please let me know. If you have some time,
>>> your contribution would be much appreciated, either mapping or
>>> validating
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Pete
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Pete Masters*
>>> Missing Maps Project Coordinator
>>> +44 7921 781 518
>>>
>>> missingmaps.org 
>>>
>>> _@pedrito1414_ 
>>> _@theMissingMaps_ 
>>> _facebook.com/MissingMapsProject_
>>> 
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Re: [HOT] HOT Tasking Manager not responding !!!

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Issue fixed. You can create projects.

Regards,

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Courtney Clark
 wrote:
> When I try to create a new task, I receive an error message. Any ideas?
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:31 AM, Leon van der Meulen
>  wrote:
>>
>> No problems here in safari, firefox nor chrome.
>>
>>
>> On 16 Jun 2016, at 09:27, Robert Banick  wrote:
>>
>> I’m having the same error now. I was able to use the tasking manager
>> successfully about 3 hours ago however.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:55 PM Ahasanul Hoque 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear hot mappers,
>>> Is there any maintenance work ongoing for HOT task manager ? Its not
>>> responding since last few hours and giving following responses. Is there
>>> anybody facing the same issue or its something weird happens at my end ?
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> .
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Re: [HOT] HOT Tasking Manager not responding !!!

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Courtney,

Confirmed on my side too.
I hope we'll find out what's happening soon.
Do you need to create a project urgently?

Regards

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Courtney Clark
 wrote:
> When I try to create a new task, I receive an error message. Any ideas?
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:31 AM, Leon van der Meulen
>  wrote:
>>
>> No problems here in safari, firefox nor chrome.
>>
>>
>> On 16 Jun 2016, at 09:27, Robert Banick  wrote:
>>
>> I’m having the same error now. I was able to use the tasking manager
>> successfully about 3 hours ago however.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:55 PM Ahasanul Hoque 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear hot mappers,
>>> Is there any maintenance work ongoing for HOT task manager ? Its not
>>> responding since last few hours and giving following responses. Is there
>>> anybody facing the same issue or its something weird happens at my end ?
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> .
>>> Ahasanul Hoque
>>> GIS & Data Mgt Specialist
>>> MSc in RS and GIS | AIT, Thailand.
>>> MSc. in Env. Science| KU, Bangladesh.
>>> Diploma in Disaster Mgt & Humanitarian Response |
>>> Uni of Hawai-USA, UNU, Keio& Okayama - Japan; AIT-Thailand.
>>> ''Env. Sant. & Waste Mangt in Developing Countries'| CES, UGENT- Belgium.
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Re: [HOT] HOT Tasking Manager not responding !!!

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Thanks for the report.
Drazen just restarted the server and it looks OK again.

Regards.

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Robert Banick  wrote:

> I’m having the same error now. I was able to use the tasking manager
> successfully about 3 hours ago however.
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:55 PM Ahasanul Hoque 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear hot mappers,
>> Is there any maintenance work ongoing for HOT task manager ? Its not
>> responding since last few hours and giving following responses. Is there
>> anybody facing the same issue or its something weird happens at my end ?
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> [image: Inline image 2]
>>
>>
>> .
>> Ahasanul Hoque
>>
>> *GIS & Data Mgt Specialist*MSc in RS and GIS | *AIT, Thailand.*
>> MSc. in Env. Science| *KU, Bangladesh.*
>> *Diploma in Disaster Mgt & Humanitarian Response* |
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>> Belgium.
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[HOT] Tasking Manager - Release 2.13.2 deployed

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hello everyone,

The HOT's tasking manager main instance has been updated.

Here are the changelogs:
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.13.0
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.13.1
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.13.2

Some users may suddenly discover they have unread messages since the
notification message is now a bit more intrusive. Sorry for them. I
hope this will help new mappers to get feedback from validators
earlier.

Special thanks go to code contributors (especially to Ethan Nelson)
and translators.

Happy mapping folks.

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[HOT] Tasking Manager - Release candidate

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Dear hotties,

A new release (2.13.0) of the Tasking Manager has been deployed
earlier today **on the dev instance**.

http://tasks.dev.hotosm.org/

Here are the release notes :
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.13.0

We're looking for people willing to test.

If you encounter issues please report them using github.

Also some languages still have not translated strings.

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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi John,

I agree with you.
Messages sent to users may be invisible or seen too late.

I intend to add an "alert" like message to notify the user as soon as
possible when he/she gets a new message. This way the beginner users
would get notified almost immediately after an invalidation of their
work.

Pierre

On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 7:36 PM, john whelan  wrote:
> I think whilst mass validation can be appropiate sometimes such as in
> Ecuador at the moment I think what we lose from it is immediate feedback to
> an individual mapper which I think means less clean up to do afterwards.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 24 April 2016 at 12:09, Russell Deffner 
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Nama, just trying to herd :)
>>
>> =Russ
>>
>>
>>
>> From: nama.budhathoki [mailto:namabudhath...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 10:06 AM
>> To: Russell Deffner; 'Blake Girardot HOT/OSM'; 'John Whelan'; Megha
>> Shrestha
>>
>>
>> Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Russell,
>>
>>
>>
>> Megha and couple of others from KLL are already in Trello. They will be
>> happy to contribute on validation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nama
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Samsung device
>>
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Russell Deffner 
>> Date: 24/04/2016 20:40 (GMT+05:45)
>> To: 'Blake Girardot HOT/OSM' , 'John Whelan'
>> 
>> Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation
>>
>> Hi Blake and John,
>>
>> I'll add to Humberto, we'll have a few staff in the HOT Indonesia office
>> (tonight/their morning).  We also have a standing offer from KLL to have
>> some staffers focus on validation. These are great ideas, I don't want to
>> lose them, so can we get them onto the Trello? Then once we've identified
>> who, we can assign whats...
>> =Russ
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Blake Girardot HOT/OSM [mailto:blake.girar...@hotosm.org]
>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 8:46 AM
>> To: John Whelan
>> Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Given that we are spending a lot of times on roads, getting road
>> networks correct is pretty vital.
>>
>> Has anyone looked at using existing OSM tools, outside of the Tasking
>> Manager to do large scale road network validation?
>>
>> The one that comes to mind is GeoFabrik's OSM Inspector:
>>
>> http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/
>>
>> Which even has a 'routing' selection in the pop down to focus on
>> problems that affect routing.
>>
>> Are there other tools that would help with this?
>>
>> Could we map roulette getting roads that end near each other connected
>> properly?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Blake
>>
>> 
>> Blake Girardot
>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>> Vice President, HOT Board of Directors
>> skype: jblakegirardot
>> HOT Core Team Contact: i...@hotosm.org
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 3:51 PM, John Whelan 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm seeing projects archived fairly quickly without validation.
>> >
>> > Of the validation I have done I've seen crossing ways and highways
>> > almost
>> > meeting on a project that was supposed to be Highways only for
>> > experienced
>> > JOSM users.
>> >
>> > JOSM validation should have highlighted these errors before uploading.
>> >
>> > I won't bother to mention the other problems I've seen but I assume some
>> > thought has been given to the matter?
>> >
>> > Thanks John
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Re: [HOT] JOSM port don't work anymore

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You should be able to use the ".gpx link" just below the "edit with
JOSM" button.
Right click the link to download the GPX file and use it to select the
area to download in JOSM.

I hope this helps.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Cascafico Giovanni
 wrote:
> For some reason LAN admins blocked JOSM remote control port 8111.
>
> Is there any workaround to load the specific area?
> Ie:
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1796#task/237
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Re: [HOT] Can we extend the time a tile is locked please?

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

My point of view is that it's a bad idea to increase the default lock
duration. I usually think it's even already too high for mapathons
with beginners.

Here's why:
 - people sometimes don't know nothing about the duration time,
 - when they know, they forget to check if it's finished,
 - it takes too much time to finish a tile. And I agree with Dale when
he says that mappers are more happy when they finish several small
tiles than being bored and lazy to finished one single big tile. It's
even more important at a mapathon with beginners.

However, I agree that the issue initially raised by John on this
thread or Séverin in github [1] is an important problem. It's a shame
that the Tasking Manager doesn't avoid conflict when it's its main
goal. No matter which editor is the mapper's favorite.

Ways we could improve:
 - inform people about the duration at mapathons more clearly,
 - ask people to commit often and refresh iD page if needed,
 - make the duration time more obvious,
 - encourage mappers to avoid taking tiles that were auto unlocked
during the mapathon,
 - encourage mappers to split the tiles to make them smaller and
faster to finish,
 - notify (alert) the user when the duration is finished (the most
important one in my opinion),
 - make the duration time configurable per project,
 - let the user extend the duration. See #770 [1].

[1] https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/770

Regards,
Pierre (eager to improve the Tasking Manager usability all the time)

On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Severin Menard
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Quite a recurrent topic for years. I created this ticket two weeks ago, feel
> free to suggest improvements or to support it.
>
> Severin
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 1:12 PM, john whelan  wrote:
>>
>> Bootable JOSM on a USB stick?  Smaller tiles?
>>
>> I think we have identified a problem area even if we don't yet have an
>> instant solution.
>>
>> Any more suggestions?
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> On 17 April 2016 at 08:35, Dale Kunce  wrote:
>>>
>>> John,
>>> I've seen this a lot to and I think it's how iD is used in the mapathon.
>>> When you have lots of mappers ID struggles to redraw the area after a save.
>>> Another problem is that if it's a dense area ID will hide features to reduce
>>> drawing time and increase browser performance.
>>>
>>> In general I think the old 2 hour per tile is way way to long. We try and
>>> make tiles for beginners that are about 30 min worth of work. This increases
>>> the amount of tiles completed and gives folks a better sense of
>>> accomplishment even if it's the same amount of mapping.
>>>
>>> On Apr 17, 2016 8:26 AM, "Ralf Stephan"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have seen this too recently, and I also always thought the time too
>>>> short in general.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 1:39 PM john whelan 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> When validating I'm seeing buildings double mapped.  I've seen fifty on
>>>>> a tile.  They are both a pain to clean up and a waste of mapper resources.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I think is happening is maperthon mappers going off for lunch or a
>>>>> coffee break and leaving the tile locked.  The time lock expires, someone
>>>>> else grabs the tile but the first mapper continues to map.  Now we have 
>>>>> two
>>>>> mappers mapping at the same time on the same tile.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also seen highways double mapped etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ideally a six hour time lock would save a lot of this double mapping
>>>>> but there are trade offs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could six hours be made the default but for a particular urgent project
>>>>> the project manager could set a lower value?
>>>>>
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Re: [HOT] no task borders

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Hi Daiva,

What editor are you using? JOSM? iD Editor?
What browser are you using?

Pierre

On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Daiva Marija Brazauskaitė
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have problem seeing task borders on Tasking manager when I choose the task
> to contribute. At first I thought maybe it is a short bug or something. we
> had a short mapping party, it was only me who had a problem with the "pink"
> border line. I restarted, "relogged", nothing helped. After a day the
> problem still persists. What could be the cause?
>
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[HOT] Tasking Manager updated

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Dear hotties,

A new release (2.12.0) of the Tasking Manager has been deployed earlier today.

https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.12.0

Things look to work correctly but there may be issues. Please report
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager Messages

[Pierre GIRAUD]

The message telling that the task "doesn't not exist" may mean that
the task has been split into smaller chunks.
In your case, task #6 seems to have been replaced by tasks #475 to #478.

Regards

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Mike Thompson  wrote:
> I am getting messages through the tasking manager about my work on #1449 and
> #1429.
>
> 1)"The task was invalidated because of missing roads" (the task only calls
> for buildings)
>
> 2) "The task was invalidated because of missing buildings."  It would be
> good to have examples of where I missed buildings.  I suspect that the
> validator is picking up things that are not intact buildings.  When
> invalidating a task could more details be provided? Also when I click on the
> link (http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1449#task/6) for the task in question,
> the tasking manager says the task does not exist.
>
> I am an experienced mapper, so this is not going to discourage me from
> contributing, but I can see how this might put off a new mapper.
>
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Re: [HOT] Fwd: Troubles opening Tasking manager in josm and potlatch

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

So it's all about HTTPS.
Thanks Blake for the catch.
I can reproduce the bug on my computer too.
I opened an issue https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/735

For people who are using Chrome and are currently stuck, you can try
using HTTP. In order to do so, you may have to prevent Chrome from
redirecting automatically to HTTPS.
http://superuser.com/questions/565409/chrome-how-to-stop-redirect-from-http-to-https

Regards,

Pierre

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Blake Girardot  wrote:
>
> I just did a quick test on ubuntu trusty with firefox and chrome.
>
> It looks like both browsers fail to hand off to josm when using httpS
>
> Chrome did not give an error message, but firefox asks is remote control is
> enabled in josm.
>
> Interestingly the same thing seems to happen on windows 7 too, TM doesn't
> hand off to josm when using https, ff offers the dialog, chrome just fails
> to silently.
>
> Two different versions of josm, both have https support enabled in the
> remote control prefs.
>
> and I also think it used to work fine for me, but I do not remember how long
> ago i tried it.
>
> cheers
> blake
>
> On 1/22/2016 6:16 AM, Ahasanul Hoque wrote:
>>
>> I faced the same issue while coordinating a mappathon in last 12-14
>> January in Dhaka. Among 16 mappers only 3 person were able to work with
>> JOSM. We tried all the options,like replicating the same version JOSM
>> and browser of those 3 persons for the rest, changing the different JOSM
>> versions but if didnt work. Though the remote control was active but the
>> task wasn't opening after clicking. Finally we gave up and did the
>> editing using iD. Still much eager to know the solution. Please share if
>> you get any.
>>
>> Fyi, we were working on the missingMaps project #1391
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ahasan
>>
>>
>> .
>> Ahasanul Hoque
>> GIS & Env. Data Mgt Specialist
>> MSc in RS and GIS | /AIT, Thailand./
>> MSc. in Env. Science| /KU, Bangladesh./
>> 
>> *Diploma in Disaster Mgt & Humanitarian Response* |
>> /Uni of Hawai-USA, UNU, Keio& Okayama - Japan; AIT-Thailand./
>> *''Env. Sant. & Waste Mangt in Developing Countries'| *CES, UGENT-
>> Belgium.
>> *Contact: *hoque.aha...@gmail.com <mailto:hoque.aha...@gmail.com>;
>> ahasan...@yahoo.com <mailto:ahasan...@gmail.com>| Web:
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>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Mike Thompson > <mailto:miketh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I think I am having the same issue.  If you have JOSM running with
>> remote control enabled, you should be able to click "edit with JOSM"
>> from the tasking manager and the data should be downloaded in JOSM,
>> right?  I am running Windows 7 on the machine in question, but my
>>     Linux box exhibits the same issue.  In both cases I am using
>> Chrome.  I think this was working a couple of months ago when I last
>> tried it. Admittedly I have not done a lot of troubleshooting yet,
>>   I wanted to check if my understanding of the intended
>> functionality was correct first.  I am not getting any error messages.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Pierre GIRAUD
>> mailto:pierre.gir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Claudia,
>>
>> Are you trying to work on a specific project in the tasking
>> manager?
>> Or do you have the same problems with any task in any project?
>>
>> How did you start JOSM?
>> If you are running the "java -jar josm-latest.jar" from the
>> command
>> line, do you see any error in the terminal that can help us
>> determine
>> what's wrong?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Claudia Mocci
>> mailto:mocc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Hello to all of you
>>  > I am Claudia from Italy. I'm having troublesopening all tasks
>> from the
>>  > Tasking Manager both  in Josm and Potlatch . The only editor
>> working is ID .
>>  >
>>  > Josm: using ubuntu and firefox browser I

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Troubles opening Tasking manager in josm and potlatch

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Claudia,

Are you trying to work on a specific project in the tasking manager?
Or do you have the same problems with any task in any project?

How did you start JOSM?
If you are running the "java -jar josm-latest.jar" from the command
line, do you see any error in the terminal that can help us determine
what's wrong?

Regards

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Claudia Mocci  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello to all of you
> I am Claudia from Italy. I'm having troublesopening all tasks from the
> Tasking Manager both  in Josm and Potlatch . The only editor working is ID .
>
> Josm: using ubuntu and firefox browser I 'm able to work on the task, no way
> to work on using google chrome browser. Potlatch isn't working at all. I 've
> asked Severin and Nicolas for some help , no working either clicking on "
> Tip: Download the following .gpx file and load it in JOSM in order to see
> the current task boundary" , coping and pasting the URL link in Josm_file_
> open location. I've got a bug error ( screenshot attached). Using Windows
> even Firefox isn't working at all.
>
> I have to animate a online mapping party this afternoon , using the platform
> "Go to Webinar " wich is not supported by ubuntu if you are organisating
> the training or conference .So I must use windows. Most of the students are
> in Africa or South America with precarious internet connexion. Id is
> impossible to use. Even mine isn't running fast due to the webinar platform.
> So I'm blocked . I've asked some friends to try  opening tasks, we all have
> the same problems.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks a lot
>
>
>
>  Claudia Mocci
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Re: [HOT] How do I delete messages from task manager?

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I suspect you are talking about the message you received for example
when someone mentioned you in a comment, or when someone invalidated a
task you worked on.
There's currently no way to delete any message.

Can you elaborate why you want to delete messages? Do you have too
much messages?

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Re: [HOT] Preparing new release - Please help us with translations

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Hi all,

We're currently preparing a new release of the Tasking Manager.
Some strings have been added or updated. Please help us fill in the
blanks by translating the untranslated strings.

Go to your language page and use filtering to see only the untranslated files.

For those who translated strings last week, please make sure that all
is translated. There may be some changes.

On behalf of the dev team, thank you very much in advance.

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Re: [HOT] FW: Validation

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e!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My introduction/onboarding to HOT was almost identical to Jarmo's -
>>>>>> and I can relate very clearly to all the points he has raised. I suspect
>>>>>> that there are a few more lurkers on this list who will be similar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pierre G's document suggests renaming the 'mark as done' button to
>>>>>> 'submit for review'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A simplification of terms / altered workflow would have helped me
>>>>>> initially. Taking the example of the done button, 'submit for review'
>>>>>> implies that:
>>>>>> - a) it's ok to make a mistake getting started - someone will catch
>>>>>> it, and
>>>>>> - b) I should expect feedback
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This helps with Jarmo's first and second scenarios, but also softens
>>>>>> the blow when (your first) task is coldly invalidated with only four
>>>>>> words of explanation. (Validators: that's not a criticism - I
>>>>>> understand the time pressure.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, not all users will read the docs - while training resources are
>>>>>> useful, these little nudges of understanding help all users - even the 
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> ones who enthusiastically started but didn't read the instructions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 August 2015 at 17:18, Jarmo Kivekäs 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been lurking on the mailing list for a while, but I'm still
>>>>>> fairly new to HOT. I though I'd pitch in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I definitely recognized myself from Martin's write up as belonging to
>>>>>> the set of contributors who commit changes but don't mark tiles as
>>>>>> done.
>>>>>> Below are some reasons why I've not marked tiles as complete in the
>>>>>> past.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. I think part of the reason is that I started out mapping on my own
>>>>>> (I haven't found a local community, nor was I introduced to mapping on
>>>>>> a mapathon). Therefore I haven't been able to just quickly ask someone
>>>>>> advice about something I'm unsure about. In these cases I've usually
>>>>>> left a comment in the tasking manager about whatever I was unsure
>>>>>> about, mapped the rest, but not marked the tile as done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not marking the tile done is me being conservative, I guess. As a new
>>>>>> mapper it is currently difficult to get feedback on the quality of
>>>>>> your mapping, you pretty much needs to actively seek it out. Getting
>>>>>> notifications when there are new comments on tiles you've worked on
>>>>>> would be nice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. When parts of a region are already mapped (probably form before the
>>>>>> activation was created) but the tiles that are already mapped are not
>>>>>> marked as done. I'm reluctant to mark a grid as done without making
>>>>>> any changes to it, even if it seemingly fills all the criterion for
>>>>>> the task. Especially when the grid has been locked my multiple users
>>>>>> in the past. "They didn't think it was as done, I'm probably missing
>>>>>> something." I realize that this thinking only propagates the problem,
>>>>>> since I'll just be one more user on the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Grids can be pretty large. Sometimes you just don't manage to map
>>>>>> it completely in a short sitting. I know grids can be split, but...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. Sometimes I'll for example only be mapping roads. Doing this will
>>>>>> result in many tiles being checked out and changesets are generated,
>>>>>> but no tiles are actually being finished.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Jarmo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24.08.2015 16:37, Martin Dittus wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 24 Aug 2015, at 11:22, john whelan  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd also like to see a third option on the tasking manger "I've done
>>>>>>>> some work but not completed the tile could someone review it please."  
>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>> rather catch errors early and some new mappers may not feel confident 
>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>> to mark a tile complete.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Considering better workflows for “incomplete” submissions is well
>>>>>>> worthwhile. This week I found that about half of all HOT contributors 
>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>> mark their first task as “done” although they contributed edits to the 
>>>>>>> map.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’ve written it up here, with stats and a brief discussion:
>>>>>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dekstop/diary/35649
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> m.
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Re: [HOT] Validation

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esidential or building=yes
> zebra crossings in anywhere but the UK shouldn't be there.
>
> crossing highways not connected, throws the routing software.
>
> In Africa in rural areas highway=footway should be highway=path same for 
> highway=pedestrian, careful how you give feedback if they are an experienced 
> OSM mapper they're used to tagging with other values and you want to retain 
> them so point them to the African highway wiki bit and suggest 
> highway=unclassified, track or path are the most commonly used values in 
> rural areas.
>
> Buildings not squared, select buildings=yes the select each mapper in turn if 
> the don't have any huts use q to square them all at once. This is a time 
> management issue if we had more time we should do them one at a time reality 
> does it really matter if the building is square?  We know the rough shape and 
> size and buildings are expensive in mapper time.  Locally talking to one 
> mapper, buildings are OK for the first three hours after that forget them.  
> Another mapper I know refers them as building hell projects.  Some mappers 
> are very good and will map buildings, I tend to be protective of them and 
> very gentle with them as well.  If you have a building project the ones 
> mapped in JOSM building_tool are much easier to validate than the iD ones.
>
> Scan the tile  and look for missed settlements, I think my 
> record is twenty on a single tile.
>
> huts are awkward, OSM says point or circular, HOT prefers circular but 
> experienced mappers will often use points.  You want them to keep HOT 
> mapping, if you criticise them too much they'll go back and map waste paper 
> bins locally.
>
> Is there some sort of path or unclassified highway to each settlement?  If 
> not can we drop one in.  I map fewer paths, and tracks than I used to, it 
> takes time to map every track and path.
>
> Try to avoid being condescending when communicating with mappers.   "The 
> content is great, but how things are said often leaves the impression we are 
> a bunch of arrogant, condescending jerks." Each mapper is different, you 
> won't have time to read their life history before contacting them, click on 
> their name the OSM profile send message or @username (@[firstname secondname] 
> if they have a space in their name) in the comment.  the @ method works best 
> as it shows the project and tile numbers.  Be polite and if possible use the 
> third person, JOSM validation threw up the following problems on this tile.  
> HOT may not have their email address but you can contact them, the OSM 
> profile will send an email to their email address.
>
> If they are carefully mapping every building on the project and it isn't 
> required in the instructions I tend to say thanks for mapping them but they 
> aren't required in the instructions, hoping they'll map a few more tiles more 
> quickly.
>
> Somethings are subjective, if one mapper has mapped them one way on one tile 
> and another mapper has mapped them differently on another unless there is a 
> clear way to map them I'd let them go.  For example highway=unclassified or 
> highway=path sometimes its difficult to be definite one way or the other 
> especially when you look at the number of buildings in the settlement.
>
> I do do a f with nothing in it to select everything then scroll down 
> the list of tags looking for unusual ones.
>
> Finally I never use JOSM Presets f works fine for me.
>
> I'm sure others have different ways of validating so your thoughts please 
> then perhaps we can first define our target audience then refine the course.
>
> Cheerio John
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Re: [HOT] Problem with Tasking Manager again

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On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Suzan Reed  wrote:
>
> Friends,
>
> Don’t know who to write to about this or who fixed it last time.

There were no change in the Tasking Manager since the last time you
mentioned the issue.

>
> After many hours of mapping successfully over the past days, I am again 
> having the same difficulty where, although I am logged in, I am asked to 
> login again.
>
> This time a dialog box appears when I click the top Save button. When I fill 
> in my username and password, it doesn’t recognize either. Stuck.

There's no "save" button in the Tasking Manager. Are you talking about
the iD editor?

>
> I’m on a brand new MacBook Pro computer using Chrome OS X Yosemite. I cleared 
> cookies and did all the usually fixes. Again it looks like it’s in the 
> Tasking Manager itself.

I would be happy to fix if I was able to reproduce.
I'm using Chrome on mac as well and did some edits with iD as well yesterday.

Kind regards,
Pierre

>
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Re: [HOT] Difficulty with the Task Manager

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Can you please elaborate what "a login page I've never seen before"
means? Any URL or screenshot you could share?

What's the browser and its version you're using?

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Suzan Reed  wrote:
> Hi Pierre,
>
> I'm working in #1047 with Jim Smith and John Whelan. Here's one of the URLs.
> I was to visually check and validate. Since the imagery is poor, and Jim had
> already looked at it, I validated it. I can get that far. However, I can't
> access any map regardless of the editor selected or project, even Cameroon,
> without getting redirected to a login page I've never seen before. If I
> login, I'm directed to my profile, and if I then go back to the Tasking
> Manager, I'm pushed back through the same loop.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1047#task/550
>
> Suzan
>
>
> Sent from my phone. Please forgive errors.
>
>
>
>
> On July 5, 2015 11:03:23 PM Pierre GIRAUD  wrote:
>
>> Hi Suzan,
>>
>> This is really weird.
>>
>> Can you paste the URL of the project + task you're trying to validate?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Pierre
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Suzan Reed  wrote:
>> >
>> > I can not access GITHUB to report this.
>> >
>> > I have been unable to access tasks. When asked what I want to validate
>> > with and select iD or JOSM, I am directed to a page that asks me login.
>> > However, I am already logged in. When I try to log in, I am redirected to a
>> > page that tells me about a possible Ruby with Rails problem.
>> >
>> > Please advise.
>> >
>> > Suzan Reed
>> >
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Re: [HOT] Difficulty with the Task Manager

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Hi Suzan,

This is really weird.

Can you paste the URL of the project + task you're trying to validate?

Thanks,
Pierre

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Suzan Reed  wrote:
>
> I can not access GITHUB to report this.
>
> I have been unable to access tasks. When asked what I want to validate with 
> and select iD or JOSM, I am directed to a page that asks me login. However, I 
> am already logged in. When I try to log in, I am redirected to a page that 
> tells me about a possible Ruby with Rails problem.
>
> Please advise.
>
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[HOT] Tasking Manager updated

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Dear hotties,

A new release (2.11.0) of the Tasking Manager has been deployed earlier today.

https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.11.0

Along with many bug fixes, small enhancements and additional
languages, the main improvement relates to performances.
We should encounter less problems with mapathons and large amount of
users. Thus server outages should not occur.

Thanks a lot for the (increasing number of) contributors.
And a special thanks to Drazen for the deployment.

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[HOT] Preparing new release - Please help us with translations

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Hi all,

We're currently preparing a new release of the Tasking Manager.
Some strings have been added or updated. Please help us fill in the
blanks by translating the untranslated strings.

Go to your language page and use filtering to see only the untranslated files.

Note: we decided to keep only the "master" resource.

If you need some context you can take a look at the dev instance. The
code run there is the latest.
http://tasks.dev.hotosm.org/

On behalf of the dev team, thank you very much in advance.

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Re: [HOT] Task outlines for Nepal

[Pierre GIRAUD]

In case you don't see the "export" link which is most probably the
case if you don't have the sufficient permissions, you just have to
add ".json" to the project url to get the tiles exported as GeoJSON.

Regards,
Pierre

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:14 AM, maning sambale
 wrote:
> Dear Sebastian,
>
> Each task has an export URL (upper right corner).  The export gives
> you a geojson file which you can translate to shapefile.
> Hope that helps.
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Sebastian Langer
>  wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>> First of all: Thank you all for the work, time and effort everyone puts
>> into HOT.
>> I joined the mailing list only a few months ago, but I am really impressed
>> of the general support. - Glad to be a part of this.
>>
>> I was wondering if there is a possibility to download the outlines for the
>> HOT-tasks for Nepal (preferrably as shapefile - or any other format that
>> can be converted to .shp).
>>
>> I am currently preparing some visualizations for a poster to show the
>> mapping
>> efforts in Nepal and it would be great to spatially correlate the newly
>> mapped
>> objects with the tasking outlines.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Sebastian
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Re: [HOT] localisation

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Unfortunately there's currently no way to locate a task in a project given a 
pair of coordinates.
This is a nice to have though.

Envoyé de mon iPhone

> Le 25 mai 2015 à 18:15, Danièle Garson  a écrit :
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I would like to know
> 
> - how it is possible to locate a specific task
> when I know previously the coordinates in latitude and longitude
> 
> - and how to go directly to a specific task from directly the task number
> 
> Thank you
> 
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Re: [HOT] [Nepal] JOSM presets #1046 and #1060

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Interesting.

Note for the the project managers and/or activation managers: in the
tasking manager, a JOSM preset can be added to the project
instructions. See the misc tab.

Pierre

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:27 AM, cascafico  wrote:
> Hi List. This is my first post here.
>
> I set up two JOSM presets files for assigning IDP and brownfields:
>
> Nepal Earthquake task #1046
> http://visualtags.hotosm.org/collection/437
>
> Nepal Earthquake task #1060
> http://visualtags.hotosm.org/collection/440
>
> Hot to load in JOSM:
> F12 (preferences), third icon (map), third tag, click "+" sign and load one
> of the above files.
>
> They shuold allow to addign several tags in a click, and (for IDP camps) to
> select status.
>
> Let me know if they works properly.
>
>
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Re: [HOT] #1018 squaring buildings

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Hi Tom,

You should be able to know exactly what tasks you have worked on by
hovering the line with your name on the stats tab. The corresponding
tasks should be highlighted on the map.

Does it make sense?

Pierre

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Tom Ayerst  wrote:
> I am guilty of this.  I did not realise there was a squaring tool on the ID
> editor (There is, its in the halo of tools round an existing feature).  I
> have been picking tasks at random, is there a way of finding which areas I
> have worked on so I can go back and fix the buildings I have drawn?
>
> Thank you
>
> Tom
>
> On 5 May 2015 at 10:36, m902  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I've noticed a number of new mappers not squaring buildings for #1018.
>> Could the instructions be updated to ask for buildings to be squared?
>> It looks wrong to me, and I will always square buildings (unless they are
>> obviously not square, of course).
>> Perhaps it doesn't matter?
>> Thanks
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Re: [HOT] Google Chrome users

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Sorry if it's a stupid question but, when are the java plugins
required (in the context of HOT)?
I don't think using the tasking manager requires to have Chrome java
plugins enabled.

So, I'm just curious.

Pierre

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> After having investigated the Java plugin situation with Google Chrome I
> have found there is a way to enable the NPAPI that has been disabled.
>
> 1. Open your Chrome web browser.
>
> 2. In the URL panel at the top type in chrome://flags/#enable-npapi
>
> 3. Click the "Enable" link for Enable NPAPI.
>
> 4. At the bottom of the page click the "Relaunch" button that has now
> appeared.
>
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Re: [HOT] Task manager changeset comments not working

[Pierre GIRAUD]

This has been reported in the tasking manager issues.
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/513
I think it has also been reported in JOSM.

Pierre

On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Augustin Doury  wrote:
> We noticed the same problem in Burkina.
> We use to copy/past from TM to JOSM the comment for each changeset because
> "#" is everytime changing to "%23",the UTF-8 character.
> I mean if you copy/past it in JOSM before opening a changeset, it's ok. But
> if you want to open a new changeset later, the "#" is always replaced by
> "%23".
> So the issue is coming from JOSM.
> Thanks, good luck,
> Augustin
>
> 2015-05-01 18:02 GMT+00:00 Michael :
>>
>> Working on some of the Nepal projects I noticed that the changeset
>> comments autogenerated in JOSM by Task Manager are broken. For example you
>> get "%23hotosm-project-1018" instead of "#hotosm-project-1018".
>>
>> Or with project #1010 even a
>> "source=tms[22]:https://{switch:a,b,c,d}.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/mapbox.satellite-kathmandu-20150425-after/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.jpg?access_token=pk.eyJ1Ijoib3BlbnN0cmVldG1hcCIsImEiOiJhNVlHd29ZIn0.ti6wATGDWOmCnCYen-Ip7Q";.
>>
>> I have experienced this issue with JOSM, I do not know if other editors
>> are affected as well.
>>
>> Since I have seen the repeatedly I just wanted to raise the issue. I guess
>> this is probably a configuration issue, not a software problem.
>>
>> Thanks & keep on mapping
>> Michael (user Ohr)
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[HOT] limit validation to experienced users

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

I wasn't able to read all the email I got for the last 3 days, and
there's a ton of those.

However, I've seen a lot of people complaining about beginner mappers
validating tasks even if they're not experienced enough to do so.
Before we find a way to avoid this with additions to the tasking
manager, I think there may be a workaround.

What about making the (100% done) projects in a private mode
temporarily and give access to a limited list of users so that they
can validate the done tasks.

This could be used for this project for example:
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1008

This would prevent beginners to come to this project, wonder what to
do and then validate tasks even if they don't know what they're doing.

My 2 cents.

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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager updated

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Hi all,

We just released and deployed a new version of the tasking manager.

Many thanks to those who helped.

Pierre

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Pierre GIRAUD  wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> A blocker error were reported recently. It was preventing access to
> some tasks due to errors with the encoding of usernames.
> This has been fixed and a new version has been deployed.
>
> Pierre
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Pierre GIRAUD  
> wrote:
>> Dear hotties,
>>
>> A new release (2.9.0) of the Tasking Manager has been deployed earlier today.
>>
>> https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.9.0
>>
>> Things look to work correctly but there may be issues. Please report
>> them using github.
>>
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Re: [HOT] 10 Years of OSM + HOT?

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi James,

Sorry, no, I didn't take time to have a look at this.

Pierre

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 7:02 PM, James Conkling
 wrote:
> Hi Pierre,
>
> Any update on CORS errors on the TM?  Still getting Cross Origin Errors when
> I make ajax requests.
>
> This would definitely be useful, but there are also workarounds I can use
> until this is figured out.
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:06 PM, James Conkling
>  wrote:
>>
>> Threw together some test code:
>> http://plnkr.co/edit/MkrooDeQPhmADv4CrnTY?p=preview.  Look at the browser
>> console for success/error messages
>>
>> Can confirm that using the second url (which points to
>> 'http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/920/tasks.json') throws a CORS error, while
>> using the first url (which points to another CORS enabled project server)
>> doesn't throw an error.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Pierre GIRAUD 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is supposed to land on the following code:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/blob/master/osmtm/views/project.py#L381
>>>
>>> Do you have any simple code to test this against? (I'm a bit lazy)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:53 PM, James Conkling
>>>  wrote:
>>> > Hmmm.  I'm still getting a CORS error when I send an ajax request to
>>> > http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/920/tasks.json.
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:37 AM, Pierre GIRAUD
>>> > 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Sorry for the delayed answer.
>>> >> All the API requests should be CORS enabled. Well, as soon as they use
>>> >> XHR.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Mikel Maron 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > Huh I had thought that CORS was enabled for the OSMTM api ... is
>>> >> > that
>>> >> > not
>>> >> > the case Drazen or Pierre?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Monday, March 9, 2015 1:36 PM, James Conkling
>>> >> >  wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hey Mikel et al,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Glad to see there's work being done on a TM API.  I've been trying
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > load
>>> >> > the tasks.json file into an external app so I can monitor the
>>> >> > progress
>>> >> > of
>>> >> > some HOT projects (the API docs suggest this should be exposed now,
>>> >> > even
>>> >> > though the rest of the API has not yet been implemented), but am
>>> >> > running
>>> >> > into issues with Cross Origin requests--requesting as jsonp hasn't
>>> >> > worked
>>> >> > either.  Am I barking up the wrong tree here, or is this something I
>>> >> > should
>>> >> > be able to do at this point?  (code is here, in case anyone's
>>> >> > interested)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Mikel Maron 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sam
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Some additions to the OSMTM API are in staging, and hopefully will
>>> >> > deploy
>>> >> > soon. Once live, this would allow to grab data on a list of
>>> >> > projects.
>>> >> > https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/wiki/API has a few
>>> >> > details.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -Mikel
>>> >> >
>>> >> > * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Friday, March 6, 2015 1:52 PM, Sam Libby  wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hi all, wanted to share this great visualization of ten years of OSM
>>> >> > edits:
>>> >> > https://www.mapbox.com/ten-years-openstreetmap/ in case people had
>>> >> > not
>>> >> > seen
>>> >> > it on social media.
>>&g

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Daniel,

This makes much sense.
Do you have a github account? If so, please create an issue and copy
paste your message there.

Pierre

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:51 AM, Daniel Specht  wrote:
> Lots of projects are mapped quickly, but validated  slowly. This could be
> because
> (A) beginners don't feel qualified to pass judgement
> (B) people don't like to pass judgement
> (C)  doing original work is more fun than reviewing someone else's work.
>
> I have a couple suggestions for encouraging validation.
>
> 1.  Include instructions for validation on the instructions tab.
>Because the instructions tab only has mapping instructions, readers may
> think that validation is for someone else to do.
>
> 2.  Include validation statistics on the stats tab.
>   Because the stats tab only has statistics for tiles completed, mappers may
> think that validating tiles is not essential. Also, these statistics give
> the mapper, but not the validator, a psychological reward. I've been
> validating a lot of tiles -- sometimes I seem to be doing most of the
> validations on a project -- and even though seeing the number by your name
> increment isn't the biggest thrill in the world, I have to admit that I miss
> it..
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager updated

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi everyone,

A blocker error were reported recently. It was preventing access to
some tasks due to errors with the encoding of usernames.
This has been fixed and a new version has been deployed.

Pierre

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Pierre GIRAUD  wrote:
> Dear hotties,
>
> A new release (2.9.0) of the Tasking Manager has been deployed earlier today.
>
> https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.9.0
>
> Things look to work correctly but there may be issues. Please report
> them using github.
>
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Re: [HOT] 10 Years of OSM + HOT?

[Pierre GIRAUD]

This is supposed to land on the following code:
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/blob/master/osmtm/views/project.py#L381

Do you have any simple code to test this against? (I'm a bit lazy)

Thanks


On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:53 PM, James Conkling
 wrote:
> Hmmm.  I'm still getting a CORS error when I send an ajax request to
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/920/tasks.json.
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:37 AM, Pierre GIRAUD 
> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for the delayed answer.
>> All the API requests should be CORS enabled. Well, as soon as they use
>> XHR.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Mikel Maron  wrote:
>> > Huh I had thought that CORS was enabled for the OSMTM api ... is that
>> > not
>> > the case Drazen or Pierre?
>> >
>> > * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>> >
>> >
>> > On Monday, March 9, 2015 1:36 PM, James Conkling
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hey Mikel et al,
>> >
>> > Glad to see there's work being done on a TM API.  I've been trying to
>> > load
>> > the tasks.json file into an external app so I can monitor the progress
>> > of
>> > some HOT projects (the API docs suggest this should be exposed now, even
>> > though the rest of the API has not yet been implemented), but am running
>> > into issues with Cross Origin requests--requesting as jsonp hasn't
>> > worked
>> > either.  Am I barking up the wrong tree here, or is this something I
>> > should
>> > be able to do at this point?  (code is here, in case anyone's
>> > interested)
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Mikel Maron 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Sam
>> >
>> > Some additions to the OSMTM API are in staging, and hopefully will
>> > deploy
>> > soon. Once live, this would allow to grab data on a list of projects.
>> > https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/wiki/API has a few
>> > details.
>> >
>> > -Mikel
>> >
>> > * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>> >
>> >
>> > On Friday, March 6, 2015 1:52 PM, Sam Libby  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi all, wanted to share this great visualization of ten years of OSM
>> > edits:
>> > https://www.mapbox.com/ten-years-openstreetmap/ in case people had not
>> > seen
>> > it on social media.
>> >
>> > A question  for the group – is there an available dataset/API in json,
>> > geojson, shapefile, etc that shows the locations of all historical and
>> > current HOT tasks – ideally with dates of creation? I know it’s
>> > available
>> > per-task as geojson but thought it might be available as a big chunk as
>> > well.  I think it would be a really interesting overlay to add to the
>> > 10-year map or other OSM visualizations – especially in W. Africa during
>> > the
>> > Ebola epidemic, you can clearly see in the time-based visualization
>> > where
>> > there were big impacts from the HOT community.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Sam
>> >
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Re: [HOT] 10 Years of OSM + HOT?

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Sorry for the delayed answer.
All the API requests should be CORS enabled. Well, as soon as they use XHR.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Mikel Maron  wrote:
> Huh I had thought that CORS was enabled for the OSMTM api ... is that not
> the case Drazen or Pierre?
>
> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>
>
> On Monday, March 9, 2015 1:36 PM, James Conkling
>  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey Mikel et al,
>
> Glad to see there's work being done on a TM API.  I've been trying to load
> the tasks.json file into an external app so I can monitor the progress of
> some HOT projects (the API docs suggest this should be exposed now, even
> though the rest of the API has not yet been implemented), but am running
> into issues with Cross Origin requests--requesting as jsonp hasn't worked
> either.  Am I barking up the wrong tree here, or is this something I should
> be able to do at this point?  (code is here, in case anyone's interested)
>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Mikel Maron  wrote:
>
> Sam
>
> Some additions to the OSMTM API are in staging, and hopefully will deploy
> soon. Once live, this would allow to grab data on a list of projects.
> https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/wiki/API has a few details.
>
> -Mikel
>
> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>
>
> On Friday, March 6, 2015 1:52 PM, Sam Libby  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi all, wanted to share this great visualization of ten years of OSM edits:
> https://www.mapbox.com/ten-years-openstreetmap/ in case people had not seen
> it on social media.
>
> A question  for the group – is there an available dataset/API in json,
> geojson, shapefile, etc that shows the locations of all historical and
> current HOT tasks – ideally with dates of creation? I know it’s available
> per-task as geojson but thought it might be available as a big chunk as
> well.  I think it would be a really interesting overlay to add to the
> 10-year map or other OSM visualizations – especially in W. Africa during the
> Ebola epidemic, you can clearly see in the time-based visualization where
> there were big impacts from the HOT community.
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
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[HOT] Tasking Manager updated

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Dear hotties,

A new release (2.9.0) of the Tasking Manager has been deployed earlier today.

https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.9.0

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Re: [HOT] Contacting mappers with spaces in their names

[Pierre GIRAUD]

This is indeed a good workaround.
I'm aware of the issue, but still havent found a way to fix it.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 3:11 PM, john whelan  wrote:
> Thanks John
>
> On 6 March 2015 at 08:29, Blake Girardot  wrote:
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> You can just type it in directly with square brackets around the name:
>>
>> @[First Last] for example
>>
>> That should do it, it just will not auto complete.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Blake
>>
>>
>> On 3/6/2015 2:21 PM, john whelan wrote:
>>>
>>> How do you do it?  "GEES +NN" so looks like a student group of students
>>> but making fairly basic mistakes I'd like to catch early.
>>>
>>> Thanks John
>>>
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[HOT] Tasking manager - Translators needed

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

We're currently preparing a new release of the tasking manager.
In the past weeks, modifications have been made to the code and a
bunch of strings need to be translated.

If you want to help, you can connect to transifex and complete the
missing translations in the master resource:
https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/osm-tasking-manager2/resource/master/

Note: if you're not sure what to propose for translation or if you
don't know in which context the string is used, just leave it empty.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: [HOT] Changeset Comments in JOSM

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Thanks for the report.
For your information, this has already been reported.
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/513

Regards,
Pierre

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Enock Seth Nyamador
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Seems changeset comments loaded via HOT taks into JOSM have spaces and other
> symbols replaced by their percent-ending equivalent, as recorded here[1].
> I've ignored and entered correct comments several times.
>
> Anyone also experiencing this? How did you fix it? Or am missing something.
>
> 1. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/28264946
>
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Re: [HOT] HOT Tech WG Meeting 01.2015

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I won't be able to attend this meeting unfortunately.

Pierre

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Dražen Odobašić  wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I guess we should get back to regular TWG meetings, Training Working group has
> 'hogged' :), first Monday of the month, we are going to move our TWG meetings
> to the second Monday of the month.
>
>
> So, the next Tech WG meeting is scheduled on #hot IRC at 17:00
> UTC, next Monday (12.01.2015.) [0]
>
> If you want to report/discuss something please update the document, the order 
> is
> not important:
> https://hackpad.com/TWG-Meeting-01.2015-Tentative-Agenda-MeBF1sV2xmo
>
>
> Dražen
>
> [0]
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[HOT] Tasking Manager updated

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Dear hotties,

A new release (2.8.0) of the Tasking Manager has been deployed.

https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.8.0

Please report any issue.

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Re: [HOT] Dutch language

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Milo,

Thanks for your contribution.
I hope I can release a new version of the tasking manager soon. It
should be deployed next week if everything goes well.

Regards,
Pierre

On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Milo van der Linden  wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I translated the tasking manager to Dutch and would like to know when it
> will come available on the website so I can check if it is visual appealing
> and contextual correct.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
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>
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Re: [HOT] iOS OSM offline app recommendation for deployment

[Pierre GIRAUD]

I like to use Galileo.
I paid for the pack which allows to record GPS track and to use maps
stored in a mbtiles format.
I wrote my own script to create .mbtiles files for maps I want to use
when going hiking. Can share if you need it.
They also propose maps for different available as vector data.

The app is simple, has a good looking and is user friendly. Reasons
why I like it so much.

Pierre

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 8:24 PM, John White  wrote:
> Hi
> I would give Skobbler a try. Their app uses OSM and the latest vector
> mapping technology so their maps are really small downloads (The whole of
> South Africa is only about 29mb).
> https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/gps-navigation-by-scout-sat/id329340711?mt=8
>
> Regards
> John
>
> On 3 November 2014 19:56, Estabrook, Samuel H.
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> I work on the American Red Cross Geospatial team and we are currently
>> preparing for a personnel deployment to Ebola-stricken West Africa. We
>> typically provide a tablet with offline maps for each team member deploying,
>> and have had success with OsmAnd for Android-based tablets. I’m looking for
>> a similar application on iOS that allows for offline storage of map tiles
>> (specifically iOS 7 for an iPad mini). Can anyone suggest a free or paid app
>> that provides this functionality? Thank you for your time.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Sam Estabrook
>>
>>
>>
>> Samuel Estabrook | Haiti GIS Analyst | International Services | American
>> Red Cross
>>
>> 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
>>
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Re: [HOT] allow more aggressive caching for tasks.hotosm.org

[Pierre GIRAUD]

This issue should be fixed with
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/pull/429.
I hope I will be able to deploy this sooner this week.

Regards,
Pierre

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Pierre Béland  wrote:
> Hi Florian,
>
> It is an important point to look at with all the african among other
> contributors having slow internet connections.
>
> If you have a github account, you can open a ticket at
> https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/
>
> Pierre
>
> 
> De : Florian Lohoff 
> À : HOT@openstreetmap.org
> Envoyé le : Samedi 25 octobre 2014 14h39
> Objet : [HOT] allow more aggressive caching for tasks.hotosm.org
>
>
> Hi,
> i have been looking at my squid logs lately and discovered that for
> example the HOT task manager trys very hard to make static content
> uncacheable - for example this (line from my squid cache):
>
> 1414261472.792  6464 192.168.177.157 TCP_MISS/200 95271 GET
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/static/js/lib/jquery-1.7.2.min.js? -
> DIRECT/144.76.31.210 application/javascript
>
> The "?" at the end of the URL causes this static content to be uncachable.
>
> There are lots more examples which causes the web page to be much
> slower than it needs to be. There are alternative ways to control
> cachability of content on client side.
>
> PLEASE - Use expire headers, timestamps or paths for
> controlling caches.
>
> I am living with a 384kbit/s connection and stuff like this makes
> life a lot slower - also for people in desaster areas who most likely
> fight for every kbit/s they can squeeze out of some flaky GSM link.
>
> Flo
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Re: [HOT] Linking to task stats directly

[Pierre GIRAUD]

No, unfortunately, there's no way to get a link to the project with
stats tab directly open.
This may be useful though. A specific page with only the stats would also help.

Pierre

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Pete Masters
 wrote:
> Hi all, sorry for two questions in quick succession...
>
> I'd like to feed back to the mappers that came and volunteered on Tuesday
> (and motivate them to finish task 713 over the weekend). Is there any way of
> directly linking to the stats tab in here:
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/713 ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
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Re: [HOT] Loss of editing history when splitting tiles

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Pete,

Thanks for the report.
The issue is already known.
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/156

Please add comments to the issue thread if something is missing there.

Pierre

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Pete Masters
 wrote:
> Hi all, just a comment really... I am working on task 713 and a tile had
> been worked on by several people at the mapathon in London on Tuesday. An
> experienced mapper had replied to several comments, giving some good advice.
>
> I wanted to finish it off, but it was quite large, so I split it.
> Unfortunately, this meant that all the info and comments disappeared. Would
> be really good if the smaller tiles retained this when split...
>
> Cheers
>
> Pete
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Re: [HOT] Layer to indicate areas that are considered as 'complete' in tasking manager?

[Pierre GIRAUD]

The state codes are described here :
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/blob/master/osmtm/models.py#L154

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Pierre Béland  wrote:
> Hi Nick
>
> On the top right of the Task Manager window, you will find a Export button.
> This let download a json file with polygons for each task. You will find a
> state variable.  I dont have the definitions of this variable, but Pierre
> Giraud should be able to provide it.
>
>
> Pierre
>
> 
> De : Nick McWilliam (MapAction) 
> À : hot@openstreetmap.org
> Envoyé le : Jeudi 16 octobre 2014 15h47
> Objet : [HOT] Layer to indicate areas that are considered as 'complete' in
> tasking manager?
>
> Hi all –
>
> I’m wondering if there’s a representation available of areas that have been
> marked as ‘done’ in the HOT tasking manager? What I have in mind is
> tag/layer showing each tasking square along with its completion date (as an
> indication of currency).
>
> The case in point is work on Sierra Leone: it would be great to know where
> (for example) coverage of buildings can be considered complete, as an
> indicator of population density. This way, we could distinguish “no
> buildings” from “no data”, and similarly, “no roads” from “no data”.
>
> Apologies if there’s already an obvious answer that I’ve missed.
>
> Many thanks as ever –
> Nick.
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager updated

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Hey!

Thanks all for this great feedback.
I'll put the button back (maybe with a different text) as soon as possible.

Pierre

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Blake Girardot  wrote:
>
>> I'm also not thrilled with the move of "Unlock". IMO that's going to
>> make inadvertent "premature Done"s much more common. I would much rather
>> see it be a button again, perhaps colored yellow to distinguish it from
>> the green Done.
>
>
> I also agree with this. The small unlock link and one big button will lead
> to more tasks being marked done when they are not.
>
> I couldn't find the unlock link for about 20 seconds when I just looked for
> it and I know I need to look for it. New people might very well miss it not
> knowing what it means or that they should look for it.
>
> I suggest a button again that says something like "Stop working on Task" and
> the current "Mark task as done"
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[HOT] Tasking Manager updated

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Dear hotties,

A new release (2.6.0) of the Tasking Manager has been deployed.

https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.6.0

Among the bug fixes or little improvements, this release's main goal
is to prevent JOSM users to send the task boundary to OSM database
even if ignore is set which may happen with recent versions of JOSM.

JOSM users should now see a link to a GPX file right below the "Edit
in JOSM" button. They're invited to download the given file and load
it in their favorite editor.

As always, please report any issue.

Best wishes, happy mapping.
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Re: [HOT] Splitting an existing OSM file for a task

[Pierre GIRAUD]

I'm not sure I fully understand what you're are trying to achieve.

However, recently we created projects to manage the import of GNS data.
We needed to split the data into chunks. One for each grid cell (task).
I did create a list of shapefiles for that purpose using a script
written very quickly in python.

https://github.com/pgiraud/osmtm_gns_extract/blob/master/extract.py

I hope this helps.

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Mathieu Leduc-Hamel  wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm working with others at integrating existing data which is already in OSM
> format into OpenstreetMap. We would like to use the OSM tasking manager for
> that but we would have to split the existing osm files into smaller one to
> create a grid of tasks
>
> I've found tools to split existing OSM files into smaller but not splitting
> by geographic region, i was wondering what you guys are using.
>
> If it imply any code, especially in Python no worry, we can do that :)
>
> I've had a look at the hotosm repos on github but didn't found anything
> specifically for that:
>
> https://github.com/hotosm/
>
> Thanks for your help
>
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Re: [HOT] Losing Purple Boundary Marker in iD Editor

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On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:04 AM,   wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> For the past day or so (I've only been mapping for about 3 days altogether),
> I've been losing the boundary lines for the squares I've been working on
> while using iD editor. This happens only intermittently, and I can't tell
> what I've been doing to cause it, if anything. I get to one side of the
> square, hit the boundary, adjust my view up the square a bit, then go back
> in the opposite direction, marking the map along the way. Sometimes I notice
> I've been covering a lot of ground, more than I think is contained within
> the square, and I zoom out to find ... no borders! No borders at any zoom
> level, in fact.
>
> I've only been able to restore them by closing the editor and opening it
> again, but of course it's difficult to find where I was last working in the
> square. Does anyone have any insight into this? -- either how I can prevent
> it or restore the borders after it happens without having to re-open the
> editor.

Does it still happen?

>
> One other question: Does anyone know how I might be inadvertently unlocking
> my task? I've come back to unlock or mark it as done a couple of times, only
> to find it's already been unlocked without my having clicked that button or
> been timed out.

Do you know that tasks are automatically unlocked after 2 hours?
Didn't you see the "xx minutes left" text?
If not, then we need to make it more obvious.

>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>
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Re: [HOT] HOT Projects issues triaging - second iteration

[Pierre Giraud]

Ah crap!

I won't be able to attend. It's staff meeting today. I'll be back home too late.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Regards 
Pierre

Envoyé de mon iPhone

> Le 2 oct. 2014 à 11:30, Dražen Odobašić  a écrit :
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> 
> a short reminder that the second issue triaging iteration is planned for TODAY
> 17:00 UTC [0] on mumble chat [1].
> 
> Dražen
> 
> [0]
> http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=1440&iso=20141002T17&msg=HOT%20Projects%20issues%20triaging%20-%20iteration%202
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Re: [HOT] HOT Projects issues triaging

[Pierre GIRAUD]

There's also huboard.
https://huboard.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Dražen Odobašić
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> 17:00 UTC [0] on the HOT Mumble server [1].
>
> To facilitate issue triaging we will use http://waffle.io service, for example
> https://waffle.io/hotosm/hot-exports. In order to manipulate 'issue cards' you
> need to have 'write privileges' for the specific repository, and that is
> easily fixable if you have an Github account. Columns are easily customizable
> and we can link specific columns and issues using labels.
>
> We'll also use hackpad service for documentation and coordination.
>
> Dražen
>
> [0]
> http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=1440&iso=20140925T17&msg=HOT%20Projects%20issues%20triaging
> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble
>
>
> On 23.09.2014 13:10, Dražen Odobašić wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> we are going to have "HOT Projects issues triaging" on Thursday, 25th
>> September, 2014 [0].
>>
>> The purpose of this meeting is to do quick review and prioritization of
>> issues reported on Github in order to get context straight. We need to do
>> this to be able to draw up priorities, solicit feedback and ultimately
>> start thinking about funding.
>>
>> This meeting is for you if: * you are a HOT project manager * you reported
>> issues and want to help with triaging
>>
>> At the moment meeting will happen on the HOT Mumble server [1], and in
>> case that does not workout, we can always default back to IRC
>> #h...@irc.oftc.net
>>
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[HOT] Tasking Manager updated

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Dear hotties,

A new release (2.5.0) of the Tasking Manager has been deployed.

https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.5.0

Among the bug fixes, there's a new feature you might be interested in:
you can now mention a user when writing a comment on a task by typing
@. The mentioned user will automatically receive a notification
message.

As always, please report any issue.

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Re: [HOT] HOT Tech WG Meeting X+15

[Pierre GIRAUD]

I'm afraid I won't be able to attend.
I'm really sorry.

Pierre

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Dražen Odobašić
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>
> If you want to report/discuss something please update the document, the order 
> is
> not important: 
> https://hackpad.com/TWG-Meeting-X15-Tentative-Agenda-CccX3ujK0p7
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Re: [HOT] TM2 Feedback for contributors

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Hi,

We actually do store information about who locks a task.
See http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/611#task/30 for example.
Even if not trivial, it should be possible to analyze the data to
figure out if many users lock task without marking them as done.

Pierre

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:06 AM, Jaakko Helleranta.com
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> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Blake Girardot  wrote:
>>
>> Some new mappers are never going to mark a square done because they just
>> do not feel like the know enough to say it is done.
>
>
> This reminds me: Do we capture (and store) information on who locks (aka.
> reserves) squares? (Asking because it doesn't show if we do.)
>
> The thing is that if not then we're quite possibly missing a bunch of
> contributors because I think that Blake is correct in saying that some
> (newbies) will never mark a square done. .. Surely we could say and think
> that those newbies will not be newbies forever and that they will eventually
> start marking squares done. But I think it could be interesting in any case
> -- simply for the sake of understanding how people use TM if nothing else!
> -- to capture and why not show in stats how many each squares each username
> has locked (and then of course finished).
>
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Re: [HOT] Problem with profile in tasking manager

[Pierre GIRAUD]

This should be fixed soon.
Regards,
Pierre


On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Luca Manunta  wrote:

> Hi,
> since the introduction of the new version of the tasking manager, my edits
> are indicated with my own name, rather than with my username.
> While OSM regularly shows my username, when I login the tasking manager,
> although I use my username, my own name is shown on top right. If I try to
> access my OSM profile from the tasking manager, it says the profile does
> not exist.
> Is there is a way to edit my profile on the task manager to correctly
> associate it with my username?
> Thanks
> Luca
> username: manugrafo
> profile name on task manager: manunta
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Re: [HOT] Can't edit any task from the task manager - "An error occured"

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Hi all,

This should be fixed now. Can you please confirm?

Pierre


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Frederic Moine  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have the same problem on Task 611 Gaza Strip
>
> All the best FredM, thanks again for this new version it is very useful.
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Re: [HOT] Can't edit any task from the task manager - "An error occured"

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Blake,

Thanks for the report.
It looks like an issue on the server.
I'm afraid we won't be able to fix it before tomorrow unfortunately.

I hope we can fix it as soon as possible.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

Regards


On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Blake Girardot 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The tasking Manager seems to think I have a task checked out, and the
> square for the last task I tried to checkout does show as being worked on.
>
> When I click on the main project entry (Project 586) it automatically
> takes me to the task it thinks I am editing (task 290). It then says
> "Loading" and then blanks out the Contribute panel and returns a dialog
> that says "An error occured"
>
> Trying to select another task in the same project results in the
> Contribute panel saying I already have a task locked. Clicking on the "a
> task locked" link or the "Select it again" button just results in the
> Contribute panel blanking and the "An error occured" dialog showing.
>
> I have logged out and back in, let it sit for over 2 hours, cleared my
> cookies and browsing history, tried two different browsers, two different
> machines and operating systems, always the same behavior.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager2

[Pierre GIRAUD]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Clifford Snow 
wrote:

> I'd like to give a short update on Tasking Manager 2 to our 10th
> Anniversary Celebration in Seattle. Can someone give me a short description
> on the latest v2.4.0, update on the following enhancements?
>
> Difficulty can be set for each task
>

Project managers can now set a difficulty level (from easy to hard) for
each single task. Information about the difficulty rating (when available)
is given to contributors when they select a task. Beginners may prefer to
work on easy task whereas experienced mappers can work on more difficult
tasks.


> Priority areas can be defined for a project
>

Project managers can draw polygons within the project area to distinguish
sections where the work needs to be done in priority. For example, after an
earthquake, urban areas close to the epicenter need to be mapped first.
The priority areas are shown on the map.
Also when contributors "take a task at random", they are preferably given
tasks that are in the priority areas.


> Users are informed when a task they worked on is invalidated
>

In the validation process, contributors can invalidate the work done on a
task if they consider it's not complete or not correctly done. In this
case, the user who "marked the task as done" is sent a message with the
comment by the validator. This will eventually help contributors to avoid
mistakes and do a better mapping.


> Project tasks can be exported to GeoJSON
>

Project managers can export the projects' tasks as a GeoJSON file so that
they can use it elsewhere (QGIS?). They can use it for reports for example.

I hope this helps.

Kind regards.
Pierre


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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager V2 updated

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

We just deployed a new version of the Tasking Manager on the production
server.

It includes new features and fixes some bugs. See
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases/tag/2.4.0

As always, please report any issue.


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wrote:

> Dear hotties,
>
> A bit earlier today, we deployed a new version (2.3.1) of the Tasking
> Manager.
>
> It includes new features and fixes some bugs. See
> https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases
>
> As always, please report any issue.
>
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[HOT] Tasking Manager V2 updated

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Dear hotties,

A bit earlier today, we deployed a new version (2.3.1) of the Tasking
Manager.

It includes new features and fixes some bugs. See
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/releases

As always, please report any issue.

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Re: [HOT] Ebola Outbreak Activation

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Sorry if there was a misunderstanding.

Previously, there was no real way to list the projects associated to
"an activation".

For example, the following link didn't really list the jobs for the
"Ebola" related activation.
http://tasks.hotosm.org/#featured/Ebola

What it actually did is searching for jobs with "ebola" in their name
and/or description (even in the middle of words) and shows only the
"featured" ones.
If for any reason "ebola" was contained in a word (for example:
"aktiebolag" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktiebolag) in the
description, the corresponding job would also be listed.

So, Mikel is right, if one wants a similar result, the following link works:
http://tasks.hotosm.org/?sort_by=priority&direction=asc&search=Ebola

The only difference is that it doesn't only show the high priority
projects. However, high priority projects will appear on top.


About grouping projects "by activation", though it's indeed a
must-have feature, it's not under development. Correct me if I'm wrong
but it has never been planned.

I fully understand Pierre's frustrations but adding new features
fatally may break existing one. I've been doing my best to break as
less features as possible, and to get a Tasking Manager more powerful
than it was before.

Pierre

On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Mikel Maron  wrote:
>> I just received an informion that follwing the migration this week to the
>> new Task Manager
>> V2, we cannot anymore list  all the Task manager jobs for a project like
>> we did before .
>> Then the link below will simply list all jobs. We will then take care to
>> have the Ebola Tasks
>> at the top of the list.
>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/#featured/Ebola
>
> My understanding (Pierre Giraud can provide more details) is that this
> feature is under redevelopment right now, and will be available and better
> than before.
>
> In the interim, the search function does work to filter jobs (if a little
> less elegant url).
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/?sort_by=priority&direction=asc&search=Ebola
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager V2 launch

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Thanks for the feedback.
I created an issue and will address it as soon as possible.

Regards

On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:04 PM, antje lorch  wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I also used the "My tasks" so it would be good if that could be added
> again - maybe as an option in the "sort by" dropdown menu.
>
> greetings
> clara
>
> On 17/07/14 10:28, Pierre GIRAUD wrote:
>> I didn't really know if it was useful or not. If you really miss
>> this one, we can consider re-adding it. However, if you want to
>> which projects you worked, simply go to
>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/user/the_user_name
>>
>> For example: http://tasks.hotosm.org/user/PierZen
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Alexander W. Janssen
>>  wrote:
>>> Hi Pierre,
>>>
>>> looks good, thanks! One question though, what happened to the
>>> "My tasks" button in the list of projects? I know what I worked
>>> on, but that option was very convenient.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Alexander.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Pierre GIRAUD
>>>  wrote:
>>>> Dear all, tasking manager users, mappers and project managers,
>>>>
>>>> We're happy to announce that the Tasking Manager has been
>>>> updated. A few minutes ago, a new version of the Tasking
>>>> Manager took place at http://tasks.hotosm.org
>>>>
>>>> If you get an error while loading for the first time, please go
>>>> to http://tasks.hotosm.org/logout (or manually remove the
>>>> cookies).
>>>>
>>>> Please report any issue preferably using github [1].
>>>>
>>>> A more detailed message explaining what's new will follow.
>>>>
>>>> ** Important note for "project managers" (people who were
>>>> admins on previous version): Please contact me off list. The
>>>> projects description and instruction sometimes need to be
>>>> modified a bit. I'll be happy to give you a hand.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards, Pierre
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Pierre GIRAUD
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> The migration is currently in progress. Tasking Manager is
>>>>> down. It will be back soon with a brand new interface.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards, Pierre
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Pierre GIRAUD
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The tech team at Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team is proud
>>>>>> to announce that we will launch a new version of the
>>>>>> Tasking Manager soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> During the migration from the current version to the new
>>>>>> one, the Tasking Manager will not be available. The
>>>>>> downtime is supposed to last only few minutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The migration is scheduled on Thursday 17th of July at
>>>>>> 08:00 UTC.
>>>>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140717T08&p1=1440
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
> Sorry for the inconvenience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We'll send a message for the official launch once ready.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Pierre
>>>>>>
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager V2 launch

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Severin,

We now have 2 different roles:
 - "admin": user who can create projects and change other users privileges,
 - "project manager": users who can create projects.

The users who were "admins" in the V1 are now "project managers" in the V2.
Only some of us (you included) have admin rights.

Regards,
Pierre

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Severin Menard
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What is the new governance regarding Job creation rights? Seems the former
> admins - now project managers cannot extend the rights of job creations to
> peers they find skilled enough to make them. Were there issues in the past
> with this cooptation system?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Severin
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Marcos Oliveira
>  wrote:
>>
>> Good job Pierre!
>>
>> One question: Now that it's possible, where can we go to work on
>> translating the OSM Tasking Manager?
>>
>>
>> 2014-07-17 11:55 GMT+01:00 Marcos Oliveira
>> :
>>>
>>> Good job Pierre!
>>>
>>> One question: Where can we go to work on translating the OSM Tasking
>>> Manager?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-07-17 11:44 GMT+01:00 Pierre Béland :
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Pierre
>>>>
>>>> a lot of new improvements, including translation in various languages, a
>>>> greater image, the possibility for public in general to see a task without
>>>> being connected.
>>>>
>>>> For the image link, people are forced to click to see the image license
>>>> before they can see the image link. This even if this is a public license.
>>>>
>>>> For the page layout, we are loosing the page layout options with html
>>>> tag. This is an important regression, this in the middle of the Ebola
>>>> Activation. Any rapid solution for this? As I said many times, we need this
>>>> to better emphasize various aspects and make a better presentation.
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>>
>>
>>
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I didn't really know if it was useful or not.
If you really miss this one, we can consider re-adding it.
However, if you want to which projects you worked, simply go to
http://tasks.hotosm.org/user/the_user_name

For example: http://tasks.hotosm.org/user/PierZen

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Alexander W. Janssen
 wrote:
> Hi Pierre,
>
> looks good, thanks! One question though, what happened to the "My
> tasks" button in the list of projects? I know what I worked on, but
> that option was very convenient.
>
> Cheers, Alexander.
>
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Pierre GIRAUD  
> wrote:
>> Dear all, tasking manager users, mappers and project managers,
>>
>> We're happy to announce that the Tasking Manager has been updated.
>> A few minutes ago, a new version of the Tasking Manager took place at
>> http://tasks.hotosm.org
>>
>> If you get an error while loading for the first time, please go to
>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/logout (or manually remove the cookies).
>>
>> Please report any issue preferably using github [1].
>>
>> A more detailed message explaining what's new will follow.
>>
>> ** Important note for "project managers" (people who were admins on
>> previous version):
>> Please contact me off list. The projects description and instruction
>> sometimes need to be modified a bit. I'll be happy to give you a hand.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Pierre
>>
>> [1] http://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Pierre GIRAUD  
>> wrote:
>>> The migration is currently in progress.
>>> Tasking Manager is down.
>>> It will be back soon with a brand new interface.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Pierre
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Pierre GIRAUD  
>>> wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> The tech team at Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team is proud to announce
>>>> that we will launch a new version of the Tasking Manager soon.
>>>>
>>>> During the migration from the current version to the new one, the
>>>> Tasking Manager will not be available. The downtime is supposed to
>>>> last only few minutes.
>>>>
>>>> The migration is scheduled on Thursday 17th of July at 08:00 UTC.
>>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140717T08&p1=1440
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the inconvenience.
>>>>
>>>> We'll send a message for the official launch once ready.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Pierre
>>>>
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager V2 launch

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Dear all, tasking manager users, mappers and project managers,

We're happy to announce that the Tasking Manager has been updated.
A few minutes ago, a new version of the Tasking Manager took place at
http://tasks.hotosm.org

If you get an error while loading for the first time, please go to
http://tasks.hotosm.org/logout (or manually remove the cookies).

Please report any issue preferably using github [1].

A more detailed message explaining what's new will follow.

** Important note for "project managers" (people who were admins on
previous version):
Please contact me off list. The projects description and instruction
sometimes need to be modified a bit. I'll be happy to give you a hand.

Kind regards,
Pierre

[1] http://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Pierre GIRAUD  wrote:
> The migration is currently in progress.
> Tasking Manager is down.
> It will be back soon with a brand new interface.
>
> Kind regards,
> Pierre
>
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Pierre GIRAUD  
> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> The tech team at Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team is proud to announce
>> that we will launch a new version of the Tasking Manager soon.
>>
>> During the migration from the current version to the new one, the
>> Tasking Manager will not be available. The downtime is supposed to
>> last only few minutes.
>>
>> The migration is scheduled on Thursday 17th of July at 08:00 UTC.
>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140717T08&p1=1440
>>
>> Sorry for the inconvenience.
>>
>> We'll send a message for the official launch once ready.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Pierre
>>
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager V2 launch

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The migration is currently in progress.
Tasking Manager is down.
It will be back soon with a brand new interface.

Kind regards,
Pierre

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Pierre GIRAUD  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> The tech team at Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team is proud to announce
> that we will launch a new version of the Tasking Manager soon.
>
> During the migration from the current version to the new one, the
> Tasking Manager will not be available. The downtime is supposed to
> last only few minutes.
>
> The migration is scheduled on Thursday 17th of July at 08:00 UTC.
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140717T08&p1=1440
>
> Sorry for the inconvenience.
>
> We'll send a message for the official launch once ready.
>
> Thanks,
> Pierre
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[HOT] Tasking Manager V2 launch

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Dear all,

The tech team at Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team is proud to announce
that we will launch a new version of the Tasking Manager soon.

During the migration from the current version to the new one, the
Tasking Manager will not be available. The downtime is supposed to
last only few minutes.

The migration is scheduled on Thursday 17th of July at 08:00 UTC.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140717T08&p1=1440

Sorry for the inconvenience.

We'll send a message for the official launch once ready.

Thanks,
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Re: [HOT] HOT Tech WG Meeting X+13

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Error has already been reported.
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager/issues/226
This will be fixed in V2.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Tom Taylor  wrote:
> I ran into an interesting issue yesterday while working on Job 578. Remote
> control isn't working for the initial task setup even though I've enabled it
> in JOSM. It just occurred to me that the problem may be NoScript. Anyway, as
> a result, I've been using the .osm file to establish the task block
> boundaries. The problem is that the version attribute at the head of the
> .osm file is 0.5, and JOSM says it doesn't support that version. I have to
> download the file, manually edit it to change the 0.5 to 0.6, then
> everything works from there.
>
> I have the latest stable version of JOSM, which I launch as a separate
> program rather than using the .jnlp version.
>
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Re: [HOT] Is the Humanitarian rendering facing issues?

[Pierre GIRAUD]

On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Severin Menard 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Seems the humanitarian rendering has not been updated for several days (eg
> for Nzako that has been entirely mapped last week:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2882969076#map=14/6.1249/22.8613&layers=H).
> Is there a problem with its rendering server?
>
> If so, would be good not to use it in the Tasking Manager, as it is
> complicated to choose the most interesting tasks in an empty map where
> villages have been added recently (eg here:
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/558, to be compared with Mapnik:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/13.1387/-1.1067)
>
> Is an openlayers layers switcher planned to be implemented in TM v2?
>

This is not planned.
This should be fairly easy though.
Contributions are welcome.


>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Severin
>
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[HOT] Fwd: Let's Meet to Coordinate the OSM Tasking Manager

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

I'm forwarding this Email sent by Mikel since it looks like a lot of
us didn't receive.

Pierre


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From: Mikel 
Date: Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:10 PM
Subject: [HOT] Let's Meet to Coordinate the OSM Tasking Manager
To: "hot@openstreetmap.org" 


HOT

The Tasking Manager is simply _critical_ to HOT response in
emergencies, and preparedness projects. There has been a lot of coding
work recently, Pierre Giraud getting V2 in shape for release.
Developers and designers are eager to contribute. Everyone has
creative ideas on improvements and new functionality for the OSMTM.

We love the OSMTM :)

But, what HOT has lacked for OSMTM (and all of its software projects
honestly) are structured ways to communicate, handle feedback, plan
for the future, manage deployment schedule, onboard new developers and
designers, etc.

With all the activity, this seems like the right moment to start to
figure this out. All of us who have an interest in the OSMTM should
meet soon. What I propose is that we gather at the next Tech Working
Group meeting, and once other business has been concluded, we continue
into an OSMTM agenda.

On the agenda would be

* The current development of V2 (I will send another email later today
detailing where things are at)
* The design and developer CU Boulder student initiative
* Defining a software management process for the OSMTM (ie
communication, handling of bug/feature requests, deployment process,
documentation, onboarding, etc)

I believe the next HOT Tech WG will be on Monday, May 5, at 17:00 UTC,
on #hot IRC. (Drazen please correct me if that's wrong).

Hopefully that works for most of us. Let me know directly if timing is an issue.

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[HOT] Fwd: OSM Tasking Manager V2

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

I'm forwarding this Email sent by Mikel since it looks like a lot of
us didn't receive.

Pierre



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Date: Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:44 AM
Subject: [HOT] OSM Tasking Manager V2
To: "hot@openstreetmap.org" 


Hi

Work has been moving on V2 of the Tasking Manager, and it's getting
closer to be production ready. Let me give a little background on
what's happening for those that may have missed it, and then lay out
the current deployment plan.

Some months ago, several groups here in DC, that regularly use the
OSMTM, expressed interest in funding particular improvements to the
code base. This especially after Typhoon Haiyan. Problem was where to
direct that interest; there were various branches of the current site,
as well as a V2, and a great deal of feedback and feature requests in
various places. In discussion with Pierre Giraud, he decided that the
best way forward would be to focus development on V2, getting it to
support all V1 features, and building the new improvements there. V2
for many reasons was a more stable base to build on, and allow us to
really open OSMTM to a wider developer community. And additionally, V2
already has gained features not present in V1, like translation.

Additionally, the funding group and HOT representatives had priorities
for new implementation, many held collectively, some not, some well
defined, some open ended, and all within the realm of relevant for
HOT. These priorities were discussed and sorted into a top 10, and
development time required assigned to each. That led to a budget,
which through various mechanisms, the funding group pooled together to
support. I'm happy to say that we have commitments to the entire
budget, which has funded a first phase, moving to V2, and will fund a
second phase, implementing a set of new features in V2.

The first phase is nearly complete, and we're ready for deployment
steps and discussion. A staging instance will be set up on HOT's
server. We'll then do a round of feedback with OSMTM admin, users,
etc. Urgent fixes can be accommodated. Other suggestions will be
documented in GitHub for later attention in the second phase, or for
longer term. Once things looks satisfactory to everyone and stable,
we'll switch. The current OSMTM will stay up and running for a time on
a different URL, since there are some active projects, and we may need
to refer to some projects in the archive.

At a later stage, Drazen plans to do a code review, and start working
on coding standards for HOT as a whole. Also once launched, we're
planning to hold event(s) to announce the new version and give proper
public thanks to the supporters of the OSMTM.

Let us know if you have any questions. Pierre Giraud, let me know if I
missed anything.
And I'm going to re-send another email now about gathering to discuss
OSMTM on Monday at the Tech WG.

Cheers
Mikel


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Re: [HOT] Feedback Requested for Tasking Manager Design Project

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Monique,

First of all, this looks awesome.
FYI, I'm the main developer of the tasking manager for both V1 and
V2. And I would be really happy to get help from you and the others
students in order to improve the tasking manager, and increase its
usefulness.

I have several questions to begin with:
 - Can you please ellaborate what "macro-level templates" are?
 - Is "design" meant for graphical or user experience? maybe both?
 - Which instance of the tasking manager v2 did/will you work on? Are
you aware that a demo instance showing the ongoing work is avaiable? A
lot of changes happened since the one at
http://tasksv2.dev.hotosm.org/ was installed.
 - Did Mikel Maron or Robert Soden share the link to the v1's feedback
document with you? There's a lot of useful information there.

Looking forward to getting more feedback from your analysis. I hope
I'll be able to help as much as possible.

Pierre

On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Monique Mitchell
 wrote:
> Happy Friday Folks!
>
>
>
> ***Quick Summary***
>
> Students from the University of Colorado at Boulder are working on a class
> project that is looking at possible design enhancements to version 2.0 of
> the Tasking Manager. We’re focusing on macro-level themes and would love
> your contribution and feedback.
>
>
>
> ***Full Description***
>
> I wanted to send an email to this listserv first to introduce myself—my name
> is Monique Mitchell and I’m a graduate student here at CU Boulder. Myself
> and some fellow graduate students love the work that HOT does and as a final
> project for our Social Computer course with Professor Leysia Palen have been
> looking at the design of the HOT Tasking Manager from a constructive
> perspective.
>
>
>
> We have been working under the advisement of one of the HOT members—Robert
> Soden—as well as have gotten a bit of guidance from Mikel Maron.  We've done
> a number of in-class exercises that allowed us to gather user feedback from
> our classmates.  We have also been absorbing as much data that we can on the
> extant conversations regarding the Tasking Manager (via this listserv’s
> archives, github repo, user feedback, etc.).  We understand that Tasking
> Manager 2.0 is underway and have looked closely at its design.  Our focus
> has been to address such macro themes/needs as:
>
>
>
> Integration of the Ecosystem
>
> ...netween the HOT website, the Tasking Manger, OSM, the various training
> resources available, etc.
>
> ...to help minimize confusion and maximize effectiveness via design while
> maintaining the spirit of the community
>
>
> Stronger Social Features and
>
> ...how these can be leveraged to improve the onboarding/training of new
> mappers
>
> ...how these can help incentive folks to map more consistently
>
> ...how these can help increase validation rates and accuracy
>
>
>
> At this point I wanted to open up the conversation in case anyone here had
> some comments/feedback on more macro-level design ideas for the Tasking
> Manager. We recognize that any ideas we have are only as valuable as they
> meets the needs of the community. Lastly, we acknowledge the preliminary
> nature of our work while maintaining that it is an important task and as
> such we hope that any contribution we make can help move the conversation
> forward in new and exciting ways.
>
>
>
> If you do have any feedback either now, or once a mockup is made available,
> please feel free respond on the listserv or to send myself an email
> (moniquemitchel...@gmail.com) at any point in time. Or, if you’d prefer to
> talk to me on the phone or via Skype, send me a personal email and we can
> exchange information and find a mutually agreeable time. I hope that the
> results of this exercise would be useful to HOT and any input from the
> community would help ensure it's aligned with your goals and vision.
>
>
>
> From Colorful Colorado,
>
> Monique
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Re: [HOT] Monitoring changesets that occurs only within a specific bounding box

[Pierre GIRAUD]

I often use ITO's OSM Mapper for monitoring changes in a given bbox.
http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map

I hope this helps.

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Edouard LEGOUPIL
 wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> In Jordan, Refugee camps base map  are maintained through OSM.
> Zaatari is an example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/32.2933/36.3191
> and we are about to open a new camp here:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/31.9018/36.5787
>
> One recurrent question is about monitoring the changesets in order to avoid
> sabotage. I look at
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/history#map=15/32.2933/36.3266 but it gives me
> changesets that apply both within and beyond my bounding box. Filtering them
> manually is time consuming...
>
> Based on the wiki here
> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6#Query:_GET_.2Fapi.2F0.6.2Fchangesets),
> I looked at the API to do so.
> http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changesets works but the 2 detailed one
> below do not provide results:
> http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changesets/GET?bbox=32.266596,36.288786,32.278352,36.274366
> http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changesets/bbox=32.266596,36.288786,32.278352,36.274366
>
> Any hints on how to monitor changes that occurs only within the extend of a
> specific bbox ?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Edouard
>
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Re: [HOT] Cannot access the tasking manger development instance

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Projects (jobs) creation will hopefully be easier with the V2.

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:10 AM, amrit karmacharya  wrote:
> I actively use the dev-instance.
>
>  It is important to test out the area because i normally create task using
> relations and normally tasks are created at boundaries which only cover
> small part of required area. The relation has to be adjusted so that such
> tasks are removed, this is important because the internet here is slow and
> speed depends on no of tasks. Also important is to adjust the zoom level as
> i usually don't have any idea on how the tasks will be created and how many
> will be created till the creation of first task. After that it is a
> iterative process, and usually need to create many of them for getting
> desired result.
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Re: [HOT] London hack weekend

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Katie,

This would be awesome. I know that tests are missing and I really
think that it's something we want to improve.

I'm afraid I won't be available to help this week-end.

Looking forward to this.

Pierre

On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Katie Filbert  wrote:
> For those that will be there...  I will get there around 1pm
>
> Basically what I think I will do is:
>
> - get the old and new tasking manager code setup to work on.
>
> - look at github issues and the list of features
>
> - for new code, I generally think its important for there to be decent test
> coverage. I think I saw some tests (good). Perhaps can add more and want to
> setup tests to run for the github repo. Having decent tests makes it easier
> to continue development, change things, etc with more confidence that stuff
> is not being broken and improves quality. (i hope that's ok).
>
> If I do all that in the weekend, then I am happy and can continue to
> contribute some after hack weekend.
>
> I also have non-hot stuff that I can do.
>
> Cheers,
> Katie
>
> On Mar 6, 2014 12:20 PM, "Katie Filbert"  wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Pierre GIRAUD 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Dan S  wrote:
>>> > Hi Pierre,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for the info. (It seems odd to work on v1 if it is going to be
>>> > replaced.) It would be nice to see that user-feedback if you're
>>> > willing to share it.
>>>
>>> I just shared it with you.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Do I understand right that your "v1 upgrade" label means features from
>>> > v1 that are not yet in v2?
>>>
>>> Exactly.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Also: is it correct that the right way to contribute to v2 would be to
>>> > start with the "master" branch of the "pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2"
>>> > project?
>>>
>>> This is correct. Once the project is mature enough it will be moved to
>>> the hotosm organization.
>>
>>
>> We can try to poke at migrating stuff to v2, if it's helpful.  I need to
>> look through the code and the list of features needed to migrate.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Katie
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> > Dan
>>> >
>>> > 2014-03-04 12:31 GMT+00:00 Pierre GIRAUD :
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks Katie for paying attention to the tasking manager and willing
>>> >> to contribute.
>>> >>
>>> >> First of all, for your information, the development of the tasking
>>> >> manager will eventually be switched to v2. Hopefully this spring. In
>>> >> priority, we'll try to have the features available in v1 added to v2.
>>> >>
>>> >> https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2/issues?labels=feature+request+%28v1+upgrade%29&page=1&state=open
>>> >> https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2/wiki/V1-Features-List
>>> >>
>>> >> The v2 might be too weak for now if you want to contribute but if you
>>> >> feel confident enough there's a lot to do.
>>> >>
>>> >> On the other hand, the v1 can still be enhanced until we officially
>>> >> switch development to v2.
>>> >> For example, as proposed by Yanista, I think that working on #192 is
>>> >> worth. Even designing the workflow or user interface without coding
>>> >> anything would help a lot.
>>> >>
>>> >> My last suggestion regarding the tasking manager is analyzing the
>>> >> user's feedback. There's a google drive doc I can share. I didn't have
>>> >> time to summarize its content and pick ideas from the large amount of
>>> >> great feedback written there by several different users. Bugs or
>>> >> feature requests could simply be turned into github issues.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> Pierre
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Katie Filbert 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> I will be at OSM London hack weekend in March (8-9).
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London/London_Hack_Weekend_Mar_2014
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Curious if any other hot folks will be there?
&g

Re: [HOT] London hack weekend

[Pierre GIRAUD]

On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Dan S  wrote:
> Hi Pierre,
>
> Thanks for the info. (It seems odd to work on v1 if it is going to be
> replaced.) It would be nice to see that user-feedback if you're
> willing to share it.

I just shared it with you.

>
> Do I understand right that your "v1 upgrade" label means features from
> v1 that are not yet in v2?

Exactly.

>
> Also: is it correct that the right way to contribute to v2 would be to
> start with the "master" branch of the "pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2"
> project?

This is correct. Once the project is mature enough it will be moved to
the hotosm organization.

>
> Thanks
> Dan
>
> 2014-03-04 12:31 GMT+00:00 Pierre GIRAUD :
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thanks Katie for paying attention to the tasking manager and willing
>> to contribute.
>>
>> First of all, for your information, the development of the tasking
>> manager will eventually be switched to v2. Hopefully this spring. In
>> priority, we'll try to have the features available in v1 added to v2.
>> https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2/issues?labels=feature+request+%28v1+upgrade%29&page=1&state=open
>> https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2/wiki/V1-Features-List
>>
>> The v2 might be too weak for now if you want to contribute but if you
>> feel confident enough there's a lot to do.
>>
>> On the other hand, the v1 can still be enhanced until we officially
>> switch development to v2.
>> For example, as proposed by Yanista, I think that working on #192 is
>> worth. Even designing the workflow or user interface without coding
>> anything would help a lot.
>>
>> My last suggestion regarding the tasking manager is analyzing the
>> user's feedback. There's a google drive doc I can share. I didn't have
>> time to summarize its content and pick ideas from the large amount of
>> great feedback written there by several different users. Bugs or
>> feature requests could simply be turned into github issues.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pierre
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Katie Filbert  wrote:
>>> I will be at OSM London hack weekend in March (8-9).
>>>
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London/London_Hack_Weekend_Mar_2014
>>>
>>> Curious if any other hot folks will be there?
>>>
>>> I might like to poke at the tasking manager or something else hot-related.
>>>
>>> I see numerous issues and features for tasking manager. Any that would be
>>> particularly helpful to work on? or other tools?
>>>
>>> https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager
>>>
>>> https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Katie
>>>
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Re: [HOT] London hack weekend

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

Thanks Katie for paying attention to the tasking manager and willing
to contribute.

First of all, for your information, the development of the tasking
manager will eventually be switched to v2. Hopefully this spring. In
priority, we'll try to have the features available in v1 added to v2.
https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2/issues?labels=feature+request+%28v1+upgrade%29&page=1&state=open
https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2/wiki/V1-Features-List

The v2 might be too weak for now if you want to contribute but if you
feel confident enough there's a lot to do.

On the other hand, the v1 can still be enhanced until we officially
switch development to v2.
For example, as proposed by Yanista, I think that working on #192 is
worth. Even designing the workflow or user interface without coding
anything would help a lot.

My last suggestion regarding the tasking manager is analyzing the
user's feedback. There's a google drive doc I can share. I didn't have
time to summarize its content and pick ideas from the large amount of
great feedback written there by several different users. Bugs or
feature requests could simply be turned into github issues.

Regards,
Pierre

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Katie Filbert  wrote:
> I will be at OSM London hack weekend in March (8-9).
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London/London_Hack_Weekend_Mar_2014
>
> Curious if any other hot folks will be there?
>
> I might like to poke at the tasking manager or something else hot-related.
>
> I see numerous issues and features for tasking manager. Any that would be
> particularly helpful to work on? or other tools?
>
> https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager
>
> https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2
>
> Cheers,
> Katie
>
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Re: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch

[Pierre GIRAUD]

I agree that the "show tiles for given user on map" is slow. It's even
more slow when the number of tiles in the job is big. Performance can
probably be improved.

I think that it's a nice addition though even if it's not efficient.

If I read you correctly, what you are missing is the number of tiles
the user worked on. Am I right? I'll see if I can re-add this.  My
point was to lower the load of the server when rendering the job's
page as much as possible and I think I remember that computing the per
user count was slowing down things.

I just opened two new issues to address this:
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager/issues/189
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager/issues/190

Thanks for your report.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:33 AM, jonathan  wrote:
> Just looked at the latest HOT activation http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/425 and
> went to the Users tab to see what activity there was/is.
>
> OMG, as I've said many times before this page is unworkable in its new
> design.  I have to wait THREE seconds every time I move my mouse over a
> userid.  This is a wonderful example of an upgrade with emphasis of form
> over function.
>
> I really like the idea of seeing which tiles people have changed when you
> mouse over but only if it is technically feasible else let's stick with the
> original tried, tested and functional way.
>
> Is there no way it can be speeded up or the functionality moved to a
> different tab with the original re-instated minus the map?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jonathan
>
> http://bigfatfrog67.me
>
> On 03/02/2014 23:04, Jonathan wrote:
>
> Thanks for the work done already.  When you mouse over a userid it
> highlights the tiles they've done, this is a nice feature but there is a
> split second delay, is this due to calculations being done or is it coded
> in?  Because it makes it very difficult to look at and give me a headache,
> also why has the number of tiles completed been removed as a superscript
> next to each name?
>
> Jonathan
>
> http://bigfatfrog67.me
>
> On 02/02/2014 18:46, Pierre GIRAUD wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> It's been a while now that I've started working on a "workflow" branch (more
> than a year ago). The main purpose of this development was to improve the
> user experience by simplifying the interface a bit.
>
> This branch is the one used for the instance working at
> http://tasks2.hotosm.org.
>
> I'm now confident and I think that it's ready. I would now like to merge the
> work into the master branch and update the main instance. It will also
> eventually allow us to remove this second instance. I will do my best to
> retrieve the data as well.
>
> For those who don't know yet, in addition to user interface modification,
> the main enhancement is deep linking ie. links to tasks in a read only mode.
> This allow users to share a link to the task they are working on for
> example.
> I also got rid of the "validation" process because it has been the source of
> problems recently. Let's rethink this feature if we really need it. People
> still can invalidate tasks though.
>
> If no one is fiercely against i, I'll do the merge later this week.
>
> This will help me give an answer to Mikel and others who were asking me how
> much work is left to get v1 functionnalities in v2.
>
> Regards,
> Pierre
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Re: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch

[Pierre GIRAUD]

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> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> On the other side of "for validation" it is a well liked feature for
> some of our more traditional partners. (Including those that
> originally funded v2 of the tasking manager)
>
> It would be nice not to take features away from the 1st version. I
> would suggest we look at ways to encourage validation. I think one way
> for example would be to let people validate more than one square at a
> time.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Kate
>
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Pierre GIRAUD 
> wrote:
> > Hey Harry!
> >
> > You read my mind.
> > Let's try without validation.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure that the validation feature can be re-added in a near
> > future. We just need to find a way to have something easy to understand
> for
> > the end user. And I am convinced that if it's simple for the end-user it
> > will not require to much effort to implement.
> > For the most motivated of us, I think that UI mockups are a neat way to
> > brainstorm and share ideas.
> >
> > Pierre
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Harry Wood  wrote:
> >>
> >> Seems people aren't sure about the idea of removing the validation step,
> >> but I think it's good idea. I'm sure Pierre is suggesting this change
> having
> >> looked quite carefully at the way people are using the task manager
> system.
> >>
> >> The idea of validation was to allow pro-mappers to coordinate the
> process
> >> of double-checking over the area of a whole job, without too much
> >> duplication of that double-checking effort, but how many whole jobs has
> this
> >> happened on? It's easy to see the validation step has not been adopted
> much.
> >> Either we don't have many pro-mappers with confidence to validate, or
> >> they're not that interested in doing validation (perhaps because we
> have a
> >> steady flow of new jobs work on)
> >>
> >> And the thing which is always easy to overlook, the feature comes at a
> >> cost. It makes the system that little bit more complex to understand.
> >>
> >> I like the idea of trying without validation. A compromise might be to
> >> have it as some sort of hidden feature, but then that's effort to
> develop
> >> something which few users see.
> >>
> >> Harry
> >>
> >> 
> >> From: Pierre GIRAUD 
> >> To: HOT Openstreetmap 
> >> Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2014, 18:46
> >> Subject: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> It's been a while now that I've started working on a "workflow" branch
> >> (more than a year ago). The main purpose of this development was to
> improve
> >> the user experience by simplifying the interface a bit.
> >>
> >> This branch is the one used for the instance working at
> >> http://tasks2.hotosm.org.
> >>
> >> I'm now confident and I think that it's ready. I would now like to merge
> >> the work into the master branch and update the main instance. It will
> also
> >> eventually allow us to remove this second instance. I will do my best to
> >> retrieve the data as well.
> >>
> >> For those who don't know yet, in addition to user interface
> modification,
> >> the main enhancement is deep linking ie. links to tasks in a read only
> mode.
> >> This allow users to share a link to the task they are workin

Re: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hey Harry!

You read my mind.
Let's try without validation.

I'm pretty sure that the validation feature can be re-added in a near
future. We just need to find a way to have something easy to understand for
the end user. And I am convinced that if it's simple for the end-user it
will not require to much effort to implement.
For the most motivated of us, I think that UI mockups are a neat way to
brainstorm and share ideas.

Pierre


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Harry Wood  wrote:

> Seems people aren't sure about the idea of removing the validation step,
> but I think it's good idea. I'm sure Pierre is suggesting this change
> having looked quite carefully at the way people are using the task manager
> system.
>
> The idea of validation was to allow pro-mappers to coordinate the process
> of double-checking over the area of a whole job, without too much
> duplication of that double-checking effort, but how many whole jobs has
> this happened on? It's easy to see the validation step has not been adopted
> much. Either we don't have many pro-mappers with confidence to validate, or
> they're not that interested in doing validation (perhaps because we have a
> steady flow of new jobs work on)
>
> And the thing which is always easy to overlook, the feature comes at a
> cost. It makes the system that little bit more complex to understand.
>
> I like the idea of trying without validation. A compromise might be to
> have it as some sort of hidden feature, but then that's effort to develop
> something which few users see.
>
> Harry
>
> 
> From: Pierre GIRAUD 
> To: HOT Openstreetmap 
> Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2014, 18:46
> Subject: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> It's been a while now that I've started working on a "workflow" branch
> (more than a year ago). The main purpose of this development was to improve
> the user experience by simplifying the interface a bit.
>
> This branch is the one used for the instance working at
> http://tasks2.hotosm.org.
>
> I'm now confident and I think that it's ready. I would now like to merge
> the work into the master branch and update the main instance. It will also
> eventually allow us to remove this second instance. I will do my best to
> retrieve the data as well.
>
> For those who don't know yet, in addition to user interface modification,
> the main enhancement is deep linking ie. links to tasks in a read only
> mode. This allow users to share a link to the task they are working on for
> example.
> I also got rid of the "validation" process because it has been the source
> of problems recently. Let's rethink this feature if we really need it.
> People still can invalidate tasks though.
>
> If no one is fiercely against i, I'll do the merge later this week.
>
> This will help me give an answer to Mikel and others who were asking me
> how much work is left to get v1 functionnalities in v2.
>
> Regards,
> Pierre
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[HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

It's been a while now that I've started working on a "workflow" branch
(more than a year ago). The main purpose of this development was to improve
the user experience by simplifying the interface a bit.

This branch is the one used for the instance working at
http://tasks2.hotosm.org.

I'm now confident and I think that it's ready. I would now like to merge
the work into the master branch and update the main instance. It will also
eventually allow us to remove this second instance. I will do my best to
retrieve the data as well.

For those who don't know yet, in addition to user interface modification,
the main enhancement is deep linking ie. links to tasks in a read only
mode. This allow users to share a link to the task they are working on for
example.
I also got rid of the "validation" process because it has been the source
of problems recently. Let's rethink this feature if we really need it.
People still can invalidate tasks though.

If no one is fiercely against i, I'll do the merge later this week.

This will help me give an answer to Mikel and others who were asking me how
much work is left to get v1 functionnalities in v2.

Regards,
Pierre

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Re: [HOT] re Validation queries

[Pierre GIRAUD]

 is fulfilled? You're never going to get 100% as some things
>>> boil down to opinion about what the images actually are of, but the vast
>>> proportion is pretty obvious.
>>>
>> This is something that still needs to be settled and documented. I would
>> say a validation is about both identifying mistakes/mapping lacks and
>> standarzation/consolidation and has 2 or three steps, related to scale:
>> 1. At neighborhood scale, check notably if:
>>
>>- buildings are missing. Sometimes it happens and if actually it
>>represents a consequent number of building over a TM task, it can be
>>invalidated
>>- buildings are correctly traced. Hopefully it is not frequent, but
>>sometimes mappers made really coarse outlines that do not respect either
>>the buildings proportions or angle. More frequent are mappers that do not
>>know how to square the buildings. In this case, after having checked what
>>is their preferred editor, I generally send a message to their OSM
>> message
>>box to give them the tip to do it
>>- highway tags are correct. This is what you described. Some mappers put
>>tracks wherever it is not a main road considering it is not paved, but
>> this
>>is not a meaningful criteria in these developing countries considering
>> 99%
>>of roads are unpaved.
>>- road geometry. Some mappers do not put enough details and other too
>>much (eg a node every 10 or 20 m even if the road is straight). First
>> case
>>is quickly corrected with the (magical) Improve Way Accuracy mode in
>> JOSM;
>>second case requires deleting extra nodes when they actually make weave a
>>straight road.
>>- start/end of roads. Some mappers are experts of giant snake roads or
>>loop roads, Requires to pass the mouse over the streets to see their
>> extent
>>and cut them where it makes sense. On the contrary, some streets or roads
>>are sawed without any reason (same tags for all the sections)
>>- general issues of connections between objects. Some that should be
>>connected and those that should not. Requires both Validator and also eye
>>control
>>
>>  2. at the town or city scale, it is quite related to the road network and
>> its main highways. Having a larger view  to identify the highways that are
>> not simple residential roads. They are often larger and frame a larger area
>> or can be a parallel way to main roads. It is also important to check where
>> they start and when they stop, what is often not possible to do when you
>> map with the Tasking Manager. This is what I tried to do with
>> Bouar<http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/5.9374/15.5879>;
>> here are some examples of issues for Bangui:
>>
>>- missing parts of
>> highway<http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/27564988#map=17/4.38964/18.54186>.
>>Looks weird on Mapnik and the check of the imagery confirms the two sides
>>of the road separated by a drain are not finished
>>- road
>> continuity<http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/27564988#map=17/4.38686/18.50796>.
>>The situation here seems weird as well as we expect the 2 unclassified
>>roads to be connected and not joined by a simple path. The imagery
>> confirms
>>that the southern highway looks the same, and should be tagged the same,
>>whatever the tag. The example is actually good as farther
>> south<http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/27564988#map=17/4.37643/18.50931>,
>>it changes for tertiary. No reason for this, says the imagery. It should
>> be
>>cut when it becomes a straight road, though
>>- isolated upper-level road
>> sections<http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/27564988#map=15/4.4070/18.5068>.
>>Drivable highways cannot be isolated and connected to the drivable road
>>network by paths, they must be connected to it
>>- tagging coherence
>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/4.4333/18.5314>.
>>in this example, the primary and tertiary road are connected by a
>>unclassified road. Same thing between the two tertiary roads. After
>> having
>>checked the imagery this road would deserve to be tagged as tertiary.
>> This
>>obvious example apart, this requires to check the streets width to
>> identify
>>the main ones that needs not to be tagged as residential but unclassified
>>or even tertiary.
>>
>> Hope this can help! I had in mind to give some tips and it became a start
>> for a future wikipage :) Hope other people will read/discuss/complete this.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>>
>> Severin
>>
>> Any constructive feedback from experienced HOT mappers is welcomed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Nick
>>
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Re: [HOT] HOT Tech WG Meeting X+5

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi all,

Sorry I didn't answer to the messages that evoke the tasking manager.
I'm not giving up with its development at all. I'm just having a hard
time finding time and energy to contribute as much as I would like to.
I hope I can get more free time to fix some issues and answer the
pending emails.

Pierre

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Mikel Maron  wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Drazen for the update, and apologies for missing the meeting. Looking
> at what was discussed, I had few comments .. perhaps we can discuss here.
>
> First regarding setting priorities, there are actually a couple ways we can
> group issues on github to prioritize. We can either assign labels, and/or
> assign milestones to issues. I think this would be fairly straightforward.
>
> For LearnOSM, I think it's well overdue to have a discussion group
> specifically of translators and coordinators. If there's been a
> restructuring of the English version, then certainly need to get the word
> out and help transition. Finding a solution for image handling is something
> we can do collectively, and maybe develop a good structured request to
> prose.io devs.
>
> Finally, OSM Tasking Manager version 2. Would be really good to hear from
> pgiraud about how much work is left. Basically, which of these issues need
> to completed to get functionality up to v1, and retire v1
> https://github.com/pgiraud/osm-tasking-manager2/issues. There's a lot of
> interest in building on OSMTM coming up, and we need to know where and how
> to focus efforts.
>
> Cheers
> Mikel
> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:51 AM, Dražen Odobašić
>  wrote:
>
> Tech WG IRC meeting X+5: Summary
>
> ybon:
>   * fixed gray problem with DEM in the HDM style
>
> clara:
>   * some old postings on the hot.osm don't display the images correctly,
> working
> on that
>   * she can spend some time in setting the site up to be multilingual.
> Starting
> with French, but also allowing other languages in future
>   * requires help of a person who will do the translation of the relevant
> bits
> of text
>   * proposes to update (hot.osm) Get Involved page with more technical
> details
> about each project developed by HOT, so that potential contributors can
> easily
> see if they can work with specific technology stack
>
> skorasaurus:
>   * will try to tweek hdm-josm style in the coming weeks,  as there are a
> few
> hanging issues for the HDM-JOSM and HDM-carto, but none of them are
> critical.
>
> pirzen:
>   * Dakar french translation sprint of LearnOsm in november. Intermediate
> and
> advanced sections are now available. See http://learnosm.org/fr/.
>   * Restructuration of the english version was started but not announced on
> HOT
>   * we are still faced with LearnOsm and Github issues for Translators : No
> progress made and no easy solution to upload images. Neither Github or
> Prose.io
> offer to upload images via the web
>   * announces that OsmContributorStatistic module is now available on github
> :
> https://github.com/pierzen/osm-contributor-stats. It provide historic
> statistic
> for bbox and dates.
>   * reports an interesting statistic, comparing Haiti and Haiyan response:
> * Haiti 2010 - first 10 days, 304 contributors, 600k edits
> * Haiyan 2013 - first 11 days, 1200 contributors, 3mil edits
>
> sev_hotosm:
>   * would like to see development version of TMv2 back online to test its
> new
> functionalities
>   * wonders if TWG is going to help with TMv2 development
>   * proposes to somehow prioritize or vote on the projects issues to give
> potential developers a clear goal
>
>
> dodobas:
>   * volunteers to keep TWG wiki page updated
>   * reports that at the moment there is no apparent load on amelia, after
> main
> web site migration
>   * will try to get TMv2 dev version up an running (best to scrap current
> instance, and start over)
>   * concerned about too many active TMs, specifically tasks.hotosm.org and
> tasks2.hotosm.org
> * can we somehow merge data from tasks2 to tasks... once we migrate
> tasks
> from Amazon to amelia, or just discard it ?
>   * proposes that we should  write better documentation per project, i.e.
> create
> a 'how to help' section for each project that would at least contain links
> to
> the documentation of the modules/libraries that the project is using, and
> prepare coding guidelines
>   * proposes to advertise/advocate HOT project in the local Python user
> meetings/Hackathons/... (once we have create 'community participation'
> documentation)
&g

Re: [HOT] Fwd: flickr dump

[Pierre GIRAUD]

What about simply putting this in the wiki ?

On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Nick Allen  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there any way that someone with the ability to update the tasking manager
> can put requests like this onto it. I know it's not designed for this type
> of thing, but I'm sure that something could be cobbled together? Perhaps
> imaginery squares in the Pacific ocean or something, where each square
> corresponds to a number of identifiable photo's;
> Square 1 = photo's 1-20,
> square 2 = photo's 21-40  etc.
>
> At the moment it feels as if anyone volunteering to go through the photo's
> has to commit to volunteering by email & then do the whole lot which is
> something I couldn't commit to.
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
> Nick
>
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>
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>
> Who says retirement is easy?
>
> On 09/12/13 23:47, Andrew Buck wrote:
>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Jason has recently traveled to the area affected by typhoon Haiyan to
> provide satellite communications assistance to aid organizations
> working in the affected areas through the use of satellite
> communications equipment.  While there he has taken hundreds of ground
> level pictures of damaged or affected areas as well as documenting
> various POI data like schools, businesses, etc.
>
> It would be good to have volunteers go through these photos (which are
> geolocated) to try to glean as much map information from them as
> possible.  I don't know what the best way to do this would be so I
> will leave it to others more knowledgeable about such issues to
> discuss and coordinate here on the list.
>
> Also, Jason will be in the area for a few more days before returning
> home so if there pressing issues in the nearby area to where he is
> that need a ground survey of some sort to resolve he may also be able
> to help with that if he is able.
>
> Below is the original message he sent containing the link to the photos.
>
> - -AndrewBuck
>
>
> -  Original Message 
>
> Hey folks,
>
>   Made a supply run to Cebu which wasn't destroyed.  Aside from the
> glorious shower, I took advantage of the bandwidth to dump about half
> the geo-tagged and partially annotated pics to a flickr acct.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/110309345@N07/map
>
>   Have a lot more processing to do and reports to write up but thought
> I'd pass it along.  Still working on extracting the traces from Delormes
> stupid site and software but will pass those shortly.
>
>   I should have much of the data along with a lot other collected
> loaded in to GeoReliefs.com at some point as well.
>
>
> NOTE: the overhead imagery lat-longs are generalized and not accurate
> enough for simple automated geo-rectifying.  The off-the-shelf camera
> app I was using was not sampling GPS quickly enough.  I'll probably
> manually correct those.
>
> NOTE: descriptions contain notes that I captured at point-of-capture as
> I had time.  If you grep exif tag Description for "road" and/or "block"
> and/or "bridge" you'll get all the road and bridge outages.
>
>
> cheers!
>
> - -jason
>
>
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Re: [HOT] HOT Tech WG Meeting X+4

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hey, Dražen,

It looks like no one answered your question.
I agree that it would be reasonable to postpone this tech chat.
Plus there is a mumble chat at the same time.

Pierre

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Dražen Odobašić
 wrote:
> On 13.11.2013 14:22, Dražen Odobašić wrote:
>> Hiyas,
>>
>> A short reminder that the next Tech WG meeting is scheduled on #hot IRC at 
>> 17:00
>> UTC, next Monday (18.11.2013.)
>>
>>
>> If you have any questions, raise them on this thread, or during check-ins on 
>> IRC.
>>
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> A short reminder, HOT Tech WG meeting is today at 17:00 UTC
>
> In case you need a time converter, this one is pretty good...
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
>
>
> As it's been a crazy week and maybe we should postpone the tech chat for the
> next Monday (25.11). I'm still going to hang around on IRC/Mumble, but I think
> we still have more important tasks to our hand. What do you think?
>
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Re: [HOT] New task manager job on the dev server

[Pierre Giraud]

Please note that in this new version the splitting is limited to one level in 
order to avoid too deep splits.
If you think that we should let users split a bit more tell me and I'll change 
that.

Pierre



Envoyé de mon iPhone

> Le 17 nov. 2013 à 00:34, Dan Marsh  a écrit :
> 
> Now I see a split button!
> 
> 
>> On 16 November 2013 23:33, Dan Marsh  wrote:
>> Looks good, but there's no way to split tasks.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 November 2013 20:21, Pierre GIRAUD  wrote:
>>> I would add that even if it's on the dev server, this job is for real!
>>> Please lock a tile, trace elements in your favorite editor, mark the
>>> task as done.
>>> 
>>> And report any bug on the new interface.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Pierre
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Andrew Buck  
>>> wrote:
>>> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>>> > Hash: SHA1
>>> >
>>> > Hello everyone,
>>> >
>>> > We would like to start testing out the development version of the task
>>> > manager.  In order to do this I have created a fairly large job
>>> > covering tracing in rural areas of Antique Province in the western
>>> > Philippines.  We have already done another job which covers the cities
>>> > along the northern coast so the main goal on this one is to focus on
>>> > the areas further inland just to the south of these cities.
>>> >
>>> > http://tasks-dev.hotosm.org/job/361
>>> >
>>> > Since this is the development version of the server it is a little
>>> > different than people will be used to but it should be largely
>>> > similar.  Play around with it a little bit and if you find anything
>>> > broken please report it to pierregiraud on the #hot IRC channel.
>>> >
>>> > - -AndrewBuck
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Re: [HOT] New task manager job on the dev server

[Pierre GIRAUD]

I would add that even if it's on the dev server, this job is for real!
Please lock a tile, trace elements in your favorite editor, mark the
task as done.

And report any bug on the new interface.

Thanks,
Pierre

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Andrew Buck  wrote:
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> Hello everyone,
>
> We would like to start testing out the development version of the task
> manager.  In order to do this I have created a fairly large job
> covering tracing in rural areas of Antique Province in the western
> Philippines.  We have already done another job which covers the cities
> along the northern coast so the main goal on this one is to focus on
> the areas further inland just to the south of these cities.
>
> http://tasks-dev.hotosm.org/job/361
>
> Since this is the development version of the server it is a little
> different than people will be used to but it should be largely
> similar.  Play around with it a little bit and if you find anything
> broken please report it to pierregiraud on the #hot IRC channel.
>
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