Re: [HOT] Introducing Amelia

[Robert Banick]

Welcome Amelia!

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:15 AM Rebecca Firth 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Introducing Amelia, who after some time as a volunteer, joined HOT staff
> team last week to work on two projects. She'll be supporting community
> development through the Nethope Grant, and Communications in Tanzania. A
> bit more information here: https://www.hotosm.org/users/amelia_hunt
>
> Please welcome her!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rebecca
>
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[HOT] Open Data for Resilience Initiative Hiring

[Robert Banick]

Hi all,



My Innovation Labs team at the Global Fund for Disaster Reduction and
Recovery (GFDRR) is hiring for a full-time consultant to work with the Open
Data for Resilience Initiative (OpenDRI). The consultant will work out of
our Washington D.C. office helping us grow OpenDRI’s impact within the
World Bank, communicate about it outside the World Bank and generally stay
on top of the many projects we support.



If you or someone you know finds this interesting, please apply! The
official job description and hiring details can be found here
. Please submit your application
before July 1st, 2017.



For those who don’t know, the GFDRR works primarily within the World Bank
Group to improve the way World Bank projects approach disasters, but also
with partners like HOT where it makes sense. We are greatly inspired by
open communities and include HOT members like myself, Robert Soden, Vivien
Deparday and Cristiano Giovando in our team.



Best,

Robert
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Re: [HOT] HOT in Research

[Robert Banick]

Well done Emir! I’m looking forward to reading the full thesis.

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:25 AM Mhairi O'Hara 
wrote:

> Hey Emir,
>
> Thank you for sharing! The summary of results look great. Looking forward
> to reading the published thesis. Keep us updated.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Mhairi
>
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Emir Hartato 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> This research was looking on multiple VGI platforms (not only
> OpenStreetMap) which potentially can be used according to disaster
> management stage.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On 7 March 2017 at 12:46, Paul Norman  wrote:
>
> On 3/6/2017 3:25 PM, Emir Hartato wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> You may wondering why I'm missing in HOT's action since couple years ago -
> that's because I was busy working on my research for my masters.
>
> Now I'm pleased to announce that my research titled *Volunteered
> Geographic Information (VGI) for Disaster Management *is completed.
> Unfortunately I can't published the thesis document yet as it's being
> examined.However, summary of results (in English and Indonesian) can be
> found here:
> https://www.researchgate.net/project/Volunteered-Geographic-Information-VGI-for-Disaster-Management-A-Case-Study-for-Floods-in-Jakarta
>
>
> The abstract and presentation talks about VGI. Was this research done with
> multiple VGI platforms, or just OpenStreetMap?
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Re: [HOT] Data Collection

[Robert Banick]

Hi Gertrude,

Some quick answers

   1. I would use OMK to collect private, linked data. It’s the best tool
   available at present.
   2. Unfortunately you’ll need to manually script connections between your
   private data and public data. My friend Ewan Oglethorpe did this for a
   project here in Nepal, you can reuse his code if you like.
   https://github.com/eoglethorpe/hfh
   3. You should be able to create your own, custom survey with all the
   fields you like in OMK and ODK. You should use XLSForms to create these
   surveys as that will allow you to call osm data types.
   4. I believe conditional statements for OMK work the same as for ODK in
   XLSForms. (http://xlsform.org/)


I would also look at the OSM for Government page which discusses some of
the licensing issues:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap_for_Government

This is a problem my team at the World Bank is looking into…but resolving
it will take some time. Developing a generic solution for everyone’s custom
private data needs is not easy!

Best,
Robert

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 7:19 AM Yantisa Akhadi 
wrote:

> Hi Gertrude,
>
> I will try to answer some of the questions. For 1, I suggest to not put
> the data in OSM, although we can put private data using custom tag and it
> won't be rendered but people can still see it when they query the feature.
> I suggest to put private data in another platform and then put
> authentication (user+password) if they want to access it.
>
> Couple of years ago HOT develop Separate Data Store
>  for this purpose, so that we can
> store private data of an OSM object by linking it to their ID, yet I think
> this project is not actively maintained anymore. Alternatively we can use
> WebGIS platform which use OSM as its basemap and then put the private data
> as layer on top of it. We use this for several of our projects in
> Indonesia, although in our case the data is not private but you can surely
> put additional login mechanism if you only want specific people to access
> it. One example is how we use GIS Cloud to visualize flood report
> 
> from GeoDataCollect (an ODK Collect variant) app.
>
> Best,
>
> *Yantisa Akhadi (Iyan)*
> *Project Manager for Indonesia*
> *Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team*
> Tel: +62 81 5787 03388 <+62%20815-7870-3388>  Email: yant...@hotosm.org
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>
> On 6 March 2017 at 22:22, Gertrude Hope  wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I hope you are well,
>
> We are collecting data where by some of it is ok be made pubic and some
> private. In this regard I have some questions that I really need help with:
> 1. How can we make private data collected not to be displayed on OSM? (We
> are collecting both private and public data for example private toilets and
> public toilets).
> 2. How  can OSM be used along side private data, offline and the
> technical requirements *(how is OSM cloning done?)*
> 2. Is it possible to add more survey questions  under OMK and ODK?
> 3. How do you create conditional statements to be used in OMK and ODK?
>
> *N.B: *
> *a. Before we created conditional questions using kobotool box and were
> loaded into OMK and ODK. Our biggest challenge was we didn't call an osm
> data type and the results couldn't show the osm or coordinates attributes.*
>
>
> *Thank you for your response.*
>
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Re: [HOT] LearnOSM updates - Mapathon guide for organisers, Quick Access links and HOT-tips for new mappers

[Robert Banick]

Amazing stuff, congratulations and thanks to all the contributors!

On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 11:45 PM Nick Allen  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> http://learnosm.org/en/ has had a few updates!
>
> My thanks to the whole team who have done such a great job on improving
> the site recently. It's a team effort with work by many people, who help to
> make it all happen. I'll mention a few names, and can only apologise to
> those I miss - the help, feedback and advice is terrific - please keep it
> up!
>
> *Technical updates* that now give us a dropdown list for the
> translations, a 'Quick access' list for those items we think will be
> helpful to new mappers, and colour changes for sections of the menu
> visited  (Michael Heißmeier).
>
> *Organising a mapathon* with downloadable checklists (Ralph Aytoun,
> Michael Heißmeier & others)
>
> A new section *'HOT-tips'*  aimed at helping new mappers get started
> using the Tasking Manager and iD editor. Validators may also find it useful
> if looking for a guide to link to when sending feedback. Sections include 
> *tracing
> round buildings (*http://learnosm.org/en/hot-tips/tracing-round-buildings/
> *)*, tracing *rectangular buildings*, saving your work, copying and
> pasting etc.. Links are included to short training video's . (Many of the
> people in this list may not realise how influential their help and advice
> was in producing this section; Tyler Radford, Blake Girardot, Bryan Housel,
> Ralph Aytoun, Suzan Reed, Sam Colchester, Michael Heißmeier, John Whelan,
> Andrew Wiseman, Laura O'Grady & others).
>
> *Translations - a special thanks to the translators* who help to produce
> the guides within LearnOSM, but also make the iD editor, Tasking Manager &
> countless other guides and resources available throughout the world. It
> amazes me how diverse the languages are spread, with people throughout the
> world reading the site. If you would like to help with translations, please
> go to https://www.transifex.com and search for HOTOSM.
>
> New members of the team are always welcome and the only qualification
> needed is a willingness to help - feedback and advice is especially welcome!
>
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [HOT] Bad Gateway

[Robert Banick]

Hey Katelyn,

I’m not sure what’s happening either but there appears to be a Tasking
Manager server problem. Nate Smith said he was looking into it on the HOT
sysadmin channel on the HOT slack so hopefully it gets resolved soon. I
hope your mapathon can do OK without it!

Cheers,
Robert

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 6:18 PM Katelyn Woolheater <
kwoolhea...@clintonhealthaccess.org> wrote:

>
>
> Hello,
>
> I have an ongoing mapathon and we are all seeing the same ‘Bad Gateway’
> message.
>
>
>
> Does anyone know why this might be happening? When it might be back up?
>
>
>
> Katelyn
>
>
>
>
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Re: [HOT] Building Detection using Machine Learning

[Robert Banick]

Hi Phillip,

I think Andrew, John, etc. have well covered the practical relevance to
OSM. On a technical note you may consider looking into what the Facebook
data team is doing:
https://code.facebook.com/posts/1676452492623525/connecting-the-world-with-better-maps/

I believe a lot of it is based on building detection via machine learning.

Robert

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:07 PM Andrew Buck  wrote:

> I agree with what the others have said so far... this probably won't be
> used to feed into the main database but could have other uses.
>
> One place where it could be good is in very sparsely populated areas
> like northern Africa, where there are huge areas of empty space with a
> few isolated settlements.  In the past we used micro tasking to have
> users quickly scan though and find village locations and then manually
> mapped the buildings using the microtask results to find the villages to
> map.  This worked very well and your algorithm looks robust enough to
> find the majority of villages.  Also in that case false positives are no
> problem at all as the mapper just won't map anything when they look
> there and false negatives are not such a big deal (as long as you
> identify at least one building in the village the mapper can map the
> rest themselves anyway).
>
> Lastly, this could be used to re-check already mapped villages to see if
> they need to be revisited to map new buildings, etc.  You could scan an
> area and for each village spit out a set of numbers of how many
> buildings are in both datasets, how many are only in yours, and how many
> are only in OSM.  Based on that we can prioritize areas to be re-looked
> at by human mappers to update to the new imagery.
>
> So all in all this is a very useful tool to have in our toolbox, but
> just not for direct inclusion into the main database.
>
> -AndrewBuck
>
>
>
>
> On 12/19/2016 08:17 AM, Philip Hunt wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I attended my first Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) mapping event
> a few months ago and was interested to see how successful machine learning
> would be at detecting buildings in satellite images. The results look
> promising but I wanted to know if it could be useful to the community and
> if it’s worth pursuing further. I thought I would post a sample of the
> results and then quickly explain the process and issues.
> >
> >
> > Results
> > ———
> >
> > These are the results of a test I ran on project 2101 (Rongo, Kenya -
> PMI/USAID) on 1 November 2016. These images show the buildings detected by
> the algorithm on the first six unstarted tasks from the project. Potential
> buildings are marked with green rectangles:
> >
> > https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/hot-osm-ml-test-data/2101_4.png
> > https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/hot-osm-ml-test-data/2101_5.png
> > https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/hot-osm-ml-test-data/2101_9.png
> > https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/hot-osm-ml-test-data/2101_12.png
> > https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/hot-osm-ml-test-data/2101_13.png
> > https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/hot-osm-ml-test-data/2101_14.png
> >
> > As you can see the initial results look promising - most of the
> buildings have been detected and the false positive rate is pretty low.
> >
> >
> > Process
> > 
> >
> > I’ve been using the Viola–Jones machine learning algorithm, which
> requires training to know what is and isn’t a building. Once the algorithm
> is trained, it can be used to detect buildings in new images in a few
> seconds.
> >
> > The whole process looks like this:
> >
> > - Get the HOT project and task data using the HOT API
> > - Get the satellite imagery of the area from OSM
> > - Get the nearby existing buildings from the OSM API
> > - Find the existing buildings in the satellite imagery and use these to
> train the algorithm
> > - Run through each incomplete task in the HOT project and detect
> buildings
> > - Output the results as OSM XML
> > - Load the output into JOSM, validate and upload to OSM
> >
> >
> > Issues
> > ———
> >
> > I loaded the output of the algorithm into JOSM and completed tasks 1 and
> 2 of project 2101. However it still took a bit of work to make sure the
> data is good enough for OSM and I think an experienced mapper would have
> taken roughly the same amount of time starting from scratch.
> >
> > The main issue is the algorithm can’t rotate the detected rectangle to
> fit the building shape (as you can see from the example images above, none
> of the rectangles are rotated). I’ve tried using methods such as line
> detection to detect the building and rotate and crop the rectangle around
> the edges - this worked well some of the time and other times went horribly
> wrong.
> >
> > The second issue is false positives. While the examples above we’re
> generally clean, sometimes the algorithm would think a field was a
> building. Because data uploaded to OSM needs to be accurate it can take
> some time checking each potential building in 

Re: [HOT] Sierra Leone Imagery for non-profit?

[Robert Banick]

Hi Thomas,

Try speaking to Mikel Maron at Mapbox (and HOT) (mikel.ma...@hotosm.org).
Sometimes Mapbox can help out by procuring high resolution imagery for
specific areas and adding it to the Mapbox Satellite layer accessible
through JOSM.

If that doesn’t work I suggest you reach out to the U.S. State Department’s
Mapgive: Imagery to the Crowd initiative (http://mapgive.state.gov/ittc/).
Often they can secure existing imagery for you and/or procure custom
imagery on request.

You’ll probably need to prepare a specific AOI for all these requests.

Good luck!
Robert

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 10:32 PM Jean-Guilhem Cailton 
wrote:

> Le 22/11/2016 à 11:46, Thomas Kandler a écrit :
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > sorry for the OT, but I have a question with seems suitable for the
> > audience:
> >
> > is it possible to aquire high-res imagery (meaning <=10m + maybe
> > multispectral) for non-profit use in Sierra Leone in a cost-saving way?
> >
> > The non-profit is aiming to map out the mining activity in the whole
> > country to get a grip on the administration of those activities.
> > Unfortunately they have little to no funds for software or data.
> >
> >
> > Just a shot in the dark from me, so ignore if too OT.
> >
> >
> > Thanks & have a great day
> > Thomas
> >
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> For free 10 m resolution imagery - that could be suitable for mapping
> mining activity -, you could have a look at Sentinel 2 satellite images
> (also multispectral, with various lower resolutions):
> http://sentinel-pds.s3-website.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/browser.html
>
> Best wishes,
>
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Re: [HOT] OSM humanitarian mapping and its learning curve

[Robert Banick]

I’m an occasional humanitarian and agree with Pete that I’ve never heard
serious complaints from humanitarian actors about the quality of the OSM
data. Certainly no one has said it would be preferable to having no data at
all.

However, we need to be sensitive to the local OSM communities who will
clean up any bad data mess we leave behind. I live in Nepal now and
recently did some mapping work in an area traced by HOT after the Nepal
earthquake. The quality was sometimes bad and cleanup was time consuming.

I recognize that it was much, much better to have the data there during the
response. It was much, much better to have the data there for my project
even. But that’s no reason not to aspire to better data in the long term.

OSM is not just a humanitarian platform, it’s also a worldwide community
with many non-humanitarian uses. As heavy users we have a special
obligation to respect that and maybe work a little harder to get our data
to “good” instead of “good enough”. I don’t know whether that’s possible
but we should at least try.

I don’t mean this to take away from the positive discussion with lots of
interesting ideas here. I completely agree that we should stay as open as
possible to new mappers and while making HOT mapping a more guided process
with appropriate safeguards.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:54 PM Joseph Reeves <iknowjos...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> "Having said that, I'd like to punt this back to Phil and Sev as I speak
> to people in the field, who use the data, on a regular basis. Data quality,
> so far, has almost never come up as an issue. Do you guys have different
> experience or feedback from field teams? It would be useful to know
> specifics if you have."
>
> This was the question I've been thinking about for a while now and now
> might be an appropriate time to bring it up. Pete said it better than I
> could!
>
> In short - do square buildings matter for disaster relief mapping? Is
> there an acceptable trade-off between mapping quality and response time?
>
> That's a general question which I think needs to be informed with more
> specifics to this case, starting with:
>
> What is the OpenStreetMap data going to be used for?
> If we're creating population estimates of an area, is it enough to know
> the number of buildings or will the geometries be important?
> What organisation requested the data?
> What feedback have you received from people on the ground?
>
> Sev, you've said "Mapping in OSM in crisis response is not an exciting
> one-shot hobby", which I can agree with, but if we're going for
> professionalism I think we should consider the above questions, and plenty
> more than I'm sure others will have. Anyone can install a copy of the
> Tasking Manager and get together a skilled group of OSM Humanitarian
> mappers to engage in crises response, but without a requesting organisation
> providing goals and feedback it's surely still just a well organised hobby?
>
> Personally I've always wondered if we could just use nodes for buildings.
> We'd get the work done much quicker that way, but it may not look so good
> on map!
>
> Cheers, Joseph
>
>
>
>
> On 13 October 2016 at 07:43, Pete Masters <pedrito1...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Data quality is a major issue I think. And I think especially validation.
> Firstly, that validators are barely recognised in the current tasking
> manager and secondly that anyone can validate.
>
> In MSF, people who are unfamiliar with OSM are much reassured that there
> is a validation process. However, a short browse of the tasking manager
> tells you that many projects are not totally validated (despite the
> incredible efforts of the validators in the community). For me there is a
> significant risk here of losing the trust of the people who use the data.
>
> Having said that, I'd like to punt this back to Phil and Sev as I speak to
> people in the field, who use the data, on a regular basis. Data quality, so
> far, has almost never come up as an issue. Do you guys have different
> experience or feedback from field teams? It would be useful to know
> specifics if you have.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
>
> On 13 Oct 2016 07:31, "Robert Banick" <rban...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> HOT is clearly one of, if not the, most successful crowdsourcing projects
> for humanitarian response in the world. Success means not just contributors
> but also use of the data by actual humanitarians. It’s unsurprising we’re
> encountering some limits to the approach and need to evolve it.
>
> I like Phil and John’s automated approach to these things. I think the
> Tasking Manager has proven that the best way to manage these interactions
> is through an automated 

Re: [HOT] OSM humanitarian mapping and its learning curve

[Robert Banick]

Just quickly: I agree with both Heather and Jo.

I think the Tasking Manager and associated technologies are the
cornerstones on which we build mentoring, community and good practices. So
much of HOT’s way of operating in a disaster is set by the current
structure of the Tasking Manager. So if we build out a good new TM that
explicitly allows for mentoring, learning and on-boarding then we’ll be in
a better place.

Anyways for now mentoring, validating or pairing people + explicitly
inviting them onto Slack / IRC for questions is definitely necessary.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 12:44 PM Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately there will constantly be new crises. So we'll always be 'in
> the middle of a crisis'.
>
> Polyglot
>
> 2016-10-13 8:29 GMT+02:00 Robert Banick <rban...@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> HOT is clearly one of, if not the, most successful crowdsourcing projects
> for humanitarian response in the world. Success means not just contributors
> but also use of the data by actual humanitarians. It’s unsurprising we’re
> encountering some limits to the approach and need to evolve it.
>
> I like Phil and John’s automated approach to these things. I think the
> Tasking Manager has proven that the best way to manage these interactions
> is through an automated platform. My only concern is making what’s
> currently straightforward overly complex and intimidating for new users.
> But that’s a call for good design and introductory materials, not dumbing
> down our approach.
>
> However, it’s the middle of a disaster and clearly not the time for
> wholesale changes. I suggest we flag these thoughts for the forthcoming
> Tasking Manager redesign and embrace makeshift systems in the meantime.
>
> Cheers,
> Robert
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:31 AM Phil (The Geek) Wyatt <
> p...@wyatt-family.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
>
>
> I am a retired long time map user, occasional mapper (in QGIS, Mapinfo)
> and supporter of the OSM mapping project. It seems to me that the issue of
> poor mapping, especially for HOT projects, is coming up on such a regular
> basis that it's time to consider some mandatory training for users before
> they get to map under the HOT task manager. I don't think this would be too
> difficult for most volunteers and it could ensure that at least a certain
> level of competency is attained before being exposed to complex tasks. If
> people know that in the first place then they can make a choice as to
> whether they commence or continue to map.
>
>
>
> I have no idea how this could be accomplished as I know little of the
> linkages between OSM and the HOT Task Manager, but restricting HOT tasks to
> those with some defined training could improve the results.
>
>
>
> Let's say as a minimum you train folks on roads and residential area
> polygons - that might be level 1 (ID Editor)
>
> Level 2 could be after training for buildings, tracks, paths (ID or JOSM)
>
> Level 3 for validation (JOSM)
>
>
>
> In this way HOT tasks simply get assigned at each level and you know you
> have the right people doing the tasks at hand. The task manager could also
> only highlight jobs at their assigned level until they do the next level
> training.
>
>
>
> You might even consider, as part of validation, dropping people from a
> higher level to a lower level if they continually fail to produce results
> at the desired consistency.
>
>
>
> Just my thoughts as a casual mapper.
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers - Phil
>
>
>
> Thin Green Line Supporter <http://www.thingreenline.org.au/>, Volunteer
> Mapper (GISMO) - Red Cross <http://www.redcross.org.au/volunteering.aspx>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Severin Menard [mailto:severin.men...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:34 AM
> *To:* hot@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* [HOT] OSM humanitarian mapping and its learning curve
>
>
>
> The edits on hotosm.org job #2228 <http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2228>
> have started and now happens what I feared. There is no mention of what are
> the necessary skills and newbies are coming with a lot of enthusiasm but
> with almost no OSM experience. A quick analysis of the first 29
> contributors shows that 20 of them have created their OSM account less than
> one month ago. Some did it yesterday or today. Wow.
>
> The result of that : obviously, crappy edits are coming, spoiling what we
> have been doing over the last few days : now we have building as nodes
> where shapes are totally visible, un-squared bad shaped buildings and the
> main landuse area is self-cutting in various places (see there
> <https://leslibresgeographes.org/jirafeau/f.php?h=26gWjHki=1>).

[HOT] Fwd: FW: Fwd: [acknowl-ej] Call for collaborative political ecology cartography (EJATLAS) (English/Espanol)

[Robert Banick]

*Hi all, this may be of interest to some on this list*



> *From:* Janis Alcorn
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 05, 2016 8:21 AM
> *To:* Staff 
> *Subject:* FW: Fwd: [acknowl-ej] Call for collaborative political ecology
> cartography (EJATLAS) (English/Espanol)
>
>
>
> Please see call below and share with your collaborators ... in Spanish and
> English
>
> " aims is to support action-research on environmental justice and
> campaigns or ongoing work in the field, and create public and educational
> materials dedicated to documenting and unveiling processes of destructive
> extractivism and dispossession."
>
>
>
>
>  Forwarded Message 
>
> *Subject: *
>
> [acknowl-ej] Call for collaborative political ecology cartography (EJATLAS)
>
> *Date: *
>
> Tue, 5 Jul 2016 13:11:34 +0200
>
> *From: *
>
> Mariana Walter  
>
> *Reply-To: *
>
> Mariana Walter  
>
> *To: *
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Please help us disseminate this call for EJATLAS collaborations with EJ
> organizations and movements. We aim to reach civil society organizations
> and movements from all over the world. The call is in English and Spanish.
> (find them both under these lines).
>
>
>
> Calls and application forms here:
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BzkqnLesuUb6MHBIVmJsRzRGbDg=sharing
>
>
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> ACKnowl-EJ Barcelona coordination team
>
>
>
>
>
> *Pilot call for collaborative political ecology cartography*
>
>
>
> *Small sub-contracts scheme to use mapping tools for Environmental Justice
> related campaigns*
>
>
>
> *Presentation deadline*: August 31th, 2016 (Sunday)
>
> *Resolution*: September 12, 2016.
>
>
>
> This call is intended to foster collaborations between activists (NGOs,
> think tanks, social movements, or community grassroots organisations, etc.)
> and the Global Atlas of Environmental Justice project (ejatlas.org). The
> aims is to support action-research on environmental justice and campaigns
> or ongoing work in the field, and create public and educational materials
> dedicated to documenting and unveiling processes of destructive
> extractivism and dispossession.
>
>
>
> *About the EJATLAS and ACKnowl-EJ project:*
>
> The EJAtlas  is an online database and interactive
> map that documents socio-environmental conflicts, defined as mobilizations
> by local communities against particular economic activities whereby
> environmental impacts are a key element of their grievances. It is based on
> the work of hundreds of collaborators, from the academy, concerned
> citizens, informal committees, NGOs and other activist groups, who have
> been documenting environmental and social injustice and supporting
> communities on the ground for years. It’s been mainly developed under
> EJOLT , a research project coordinated at ICTA -
> UAB, and will now continue under the ACKnowl-EJ international project.
>
>
>
> The ACKnowl-EJ
> 
> project (Academic-Activist Co-Produced Knowledge for Environmental Justice)
> builds on and broadens the Atlas of Environmental Justice. This project
> emphasizes the transformative potential of citizen movements,
> ‘participatory’ approaches to environmental politics, and new institutional
> practices born from diverse knowledge systems, showing how alternatives are
> often born from resistance. ACKnowl-EJ is a 3 year project funded by the
> International Social Science Council, coordinated by the Institute of
> Sciences and Technologies  of the Autonomous
> University of Barcelona (Dr. Leah Temper) and Kalpavriksh action group
>  from India (Ashish Kothari).
>
>
>
> This call aims to expand the EJATLAs and foster the development of
> powerful featured maps (see for instance the featured map on Mining
> Conflicts in Latin America ,
> to support the international day against Chevron Texaco
> or to denounce the expansion
> of fracking ).  It aims to
> engage in further experimentation on collaborative research and
> co-production of knowledge for social change.
>
>
>
> *Objective of the call:*
>
>- Foster ongoing or upcoming Environmental Justice (EJ) related
>campaigns worldwide and contribute to their visibility
>
>
>- Contribute to improve the coverage of the EJAtlas geographically and
>thematically
>- Design Featured Maps to support EJ related campaign. The EJAtlas and
>Acknowl-EJ project will offer support to technically develop them and to
>disseminate the work developed under this call.
>
>
>
> *What are the small projects about:*
>
>- Adding cases to the EJAtlas to complete a specific database and
>

Re: [HOT] HOT Tasking Manager not responding !!!

[Robert Banick]

I’m having the same error now. I was able to use the tasking manager
successfully about 3 hours ago however.

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:55 PM Ahasanul Hoque 
wrote:

> Dear hot mappers,
> Is there any maintenance work ongoing for HOT task manager ? Its not
> responding since last few hours and giving following responses. Is there
> anybody facing the same issue or its something weird happens at my end ?
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> [image: Inline image 2]
>
>
> .
> Ahasanul Hoque
>
> *GIS & Data Mgt Specialist*MSc in RS and GIS | *AIT, Thailand.*
> MSc. in Env. Science| *KU, Bangladesh.*
> *Diploma in Disaster Mgt & Humanitarian Response* |
> *Uni of Hawai-USA, UNU, Keio& Okayama - Japan; AIT-Thailand.*
> *''Env. Sant. & Waste Mangt in Developing Countries'| *CES, UGENT- Belgium
> .
> *Contact: *hoque.aha...@gmail.com; ahasan...@yahoo.com
>  | Web: *ahasanulhoque.com*
> 
> *Skype: *ahasan4u | *Linkedin: **http://tinyurl.com/njg3xsp
>  *
>
> Please, Consider the Environment before Printing this Mail !!!
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Re: [HOT] Introductions

[Robert Banick]

Hi Laura and Elizabeth — welcome to the HOT list! It’s fantastic to have
more HOT volunteers who are as grounded in their local community as they
are in our global one.

You’ll probably find that it’s hard to connect with other HOT members over
this listserv as it’s so big and diverse: I encourage you to check out the
#hot IRC channel or just go on the Mumble voice chat server and chat there.
It’s a great way to learn more about what HOT’s up to, meet fellow
volunteers and answer any questions you may have.

IRC: irc.openstreetmap.org (channel: #hot)
Mumble: connect to hotosm.org. Make sure your microphone is set up!

 
 

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 10:49 PM Elizabeth Kelly  wrote:

> I don't think I have introduced myself- and I have been on the list for
> months!
> I teach sociology at a small Christian liberal arts university in central
> Arkansas. I signed on to get GIS experience, but I have not had time!
> I Amanda applied sociologist, and live mapping. We have a drone at our
> school, but I have not used it.
> Looking forward to participating.
> Any Ouachita Baptist alumna? ( that is where I teach)
> Thanks- Elizabeth Kelly
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 9, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Laura O'Grady  wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> My apologies as I’ve only been on this mailing list for a few days and
> have already jumped into the conversation without introducing myself!
>
> I’ve been involved in my local (Toronto, ON, Canada) OpenStreetMap
> community for a number of years. Participating has brought together my
> interests in GIS as well as community development.
>
> By day I conduct research and program evaluations in the health services
> field with a focus on health informatics. I have a fairly good technical
> and applied background in web-based initiatives and their application in
> health, particularly in relation to patient engagement via
> computer-mediated communication. Before attending graduate school I worked
> in the HIV/AIDS community here in Toronto. Over the years I’ve been on
> several committees, boards and am a founding member of Patients Canada.
>
> I’m interested in shifting my research to be more GIS focused. To support
> this I’m currently studying GIS at Ryerson University.
>
> In closing I hope to learn more about HOT and support its activities in
> any way possible.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Laura
>
> p.s. Hello Heather Leson! Long time no “see” ;)
>
> Laura O’Grady
>
> la...@lauraogrady.ca
>
>
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[HOT] Sri Lanka Floods Activation Close

[Robert Banick]

Hello everyone,

Greetings from Sri Lanka.

We are closing the HOT Sri Lanka Activation today. We are no longer
receiving requests for support from the Disaster Management Centre of Sri
Lanka (DMC) and the actual floodwaters have receded, meaning there is no
more immediate crisis to respond to.

This was a very successful activation. We’ve received many notes of
appreciation from our friends in the Sri Lankan government: I was thanked
in person today by the DMC’s Research and Technology Director and asked to
work with OSM data for assessing the strength of the DMC’s response. OSM
data was used to evaluate the impact of the floods and communicate it to
other government responders / the Sri Lankan press. I am working to secure
the release of some of the resulting maps so you all can see for
yourselves. I also expect that in the future HOT will be asked to support
disaster responses in Sri Lanka.

There’s a lot of thanks to go around for such a successful activation. My
co-leads Blake Girardot and Mikel Maron did a lot to make this activation
work smoothly, as did Russell Deffner, particularly in the early crazy
stages of the activation. The Mapbox team with Sajjad Anwar and Maning
Sambale, the Kathmandu Living Labs team with Megha Shrestha and a bunch of
mapathons (most notably Nimalika Fernando’s mapathon at SLIIT in Sri
Lanka, **in
the flood zone**) helped immensely to get tasks mapped and validated in the
early days. Finally thanks to Mapbox and the US Dept. of State for
providing us useful imagery during the response. We couldn't have done this
without them.

Most importantly, HOT volunteers from around the globe did what they did
best, mapping and validating a huge area at a really impressive pace. Thank
you so much to every one of you who contributed.

We may continue to post tasks related to future preparedness in and around
the flood zone as requested by the DMC. Because these will fall outside a
disaster event we will handle them outside an activation. Please contribute
when you can! The DMC has become quite a believer in OSM data and hopes to
use it more for preparedness purposes too.

Best,
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[HOT] Sri Lanka Floods Activation: Final Task (1934)

[Robert Banick]

Hi all,

The Disaster Management Centre of Sri Lanka has provided us with a final
area of interest for mapping. It's the outline of the flooding area around
the Kelani River as of today, May 27, as collected by Sri Lankan Survey
Department assessment teams.

About 85% of the flooding area was covered by our previous mapping from
tasks 1913, 1914 and 1915. That data is already being used by the DMC to
estimate damages and plan relief distribution. They would like us to map
the flooded areas not yet mapped so their analysis can be complete and
accurate. We've been told this will be the final request for our services
and we can close the activation after we're done.

I’ve created a new task for these areas at
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1934. It covers all the various unmapped
flood areas in the river basin and is hence a bit spread out. The
instructions specify different imagery sources for different areas so pay
attention.

Please take a task at http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1934 and help us
complete our work! Thanks to the help of volunteers like you we’ve done a
fantastic job so far and received a lot of appreciative messages from the
DMC. Help us complete this activation on a strong note!

Yours,
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Re: [HOT] A big thank you to HOT and OSM mappers from the Ministry of Disaster Management Sri Lanka

[Robert Banick]

Thanks so much for passing this along Blake! I didn’t know about it myself,
that’s so very cool.

In tasks 1913, 1914 and 1915 you all mapped over *65,000* buildings across
a huge area in a really short timeframe. All thanks and appreciation has to
go to the mappers and validators who made this possible. This doesn’t even
count the extra *1000* or so you mapped around the Aranayake Landslide Area
elsewhere in the country. All these buildings were used to estimate damages
across the flood area and in specific sub-areas so that aid could be
delivered more intelligently and quickly to the right places. Thank you all!

The floods are still high albeit going down. We’re awaiting word from the
DMC whether they have additional areas of interest for us to map. If not
we’ll shut down the activation, but until then we’re going to stay open and
keep mapping. In the meantime we’ve setup a task to map the Attanagalu and
Minuwangoda areas, which we know to be flooded and part of a long-term
project by the DMC to use OSM data for future flood preparedness. If you’re
looking to get involved or help out please chip in and map some buildings
and roads there!

Task at http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1923

Keep up the good mapping!
Robert


On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:45 AM Blake Girardot HOT/OSM <
blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote:

> Dr. S. Amalanathan, Secretary for Development, Ministry of Disaster
> Management Sri Lanka took some time from his schedule while attending
> the World Humanitarian Summit to find HOT's booth and stop to say
> thank you in person to everyone contributing to this Activation
> mapping.
>
> Geoffrey Kateregga:
> Dr. Amalanathan Ministry of Disaster mgt -Sri Lanka visiting our booth
> is grateful for @hotosm Floods Activation
> https://twitter.com/kateregga1/status/735101040081653760
>
> Robert has some actual numbers for buildings mapped, but I do not have
> them at the moment. The numbers were very impressive. A lot of people
> helped to get a lot of building data generated.
>
> Building data is a very important tool for response work and providing
> as much as you did, in as tight a time frame as you did gave the Sri
> Lanka DMC another important resource for a clear view on the
> situation. That is what they asked you to do and you really stepped up
> and helped. Thank you, thank you.
>
> Still more to do of course before we are though. Please check the
> Tasking Manager for new projects as we are expecting to do more
> detailed mapping with roads for more focused areas (AOIs) from the
> DMC. And we still need validators to keep on validating if they can.
> They are among the unsung heroes of high quality OSM data.
>
> Anyone new, please feel free to visit our YouTube channel to learn
> more about mapping, how to map, and HOTOSM. And welcome aboard!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/user/hotosm/playlists
>
> Regards,
> Blake
> 
> Blake Girardot
> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
> President, HOT Board of Directors
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[HOT] Sri Lanka Floods: Landslide Area Tracing Task

[Robert Banick]

Hi all,

We’ve received a request from the Disaster Management Centre of Sri Lanka
to map the Aranayake area, which was affected by a huge landslide after
days of heavy rains. Our data would help with estimating damages and number
of persons affected so that the appropriate amount of aid can be delivered
quickly.

If you have any time to contribute it would be most appreciated.

You can find the task here: http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1920

The area is very small so I’m hopeful we can complete this task really
quickly and get back to http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1914

Thanks,
Robert
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[HOT] Sri Lanka Floods Update

[Robert Banick]

Hi all,

The rains continue in Sri Lanka and with them the flood waters. Several
hundred thousand people are affected and homeless, including several Sri
Lankan OSM contributors. The Disaster Management Centre of Sri Lanka
continues to organize aid delivery to those affected and continues to need
our data to help that process.

At the outset of this response we broke our area of interest into three
parts. As of today HOT volunteers have mapped one entire task, (1913) and
74% of another. We've had mapathons from around the world, including the
actual flood zone in Sri Lanka, helping us get this far. We’re well on
course to complete the entire area of interest and deliver exactly the
services requested of us by the Disaster Management Centre. We’ve already
sent them an interim dataset for our completed work and they’re very
appreciative.

However, we still need some more help to complete our task. If you have
some time this weekend, please consider mapping a few tiles from task 1914

http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1914

Once that task is complete we'll make an announcement here and open the
third and final task.

Thank you for everyone who got us this far! Thanks in particular to the
mapathon participants in Italy, Denver and even the flood zone in Sri
Lanka. All of you are amazing and we're fortunate to count you as HOT
volunteers.

Keep on mapping!
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Re: [HOT] Sri Lanka Floods Activation: Sitrep Day 1

[Robert Banick]

Hi Danishka,

I can help you with organizing any events. Where are you based normally?
And how would you like to recruit mapping volunteers?

Best,
Robert

On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 12:34 AM Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Danishka,
>
> I am not clear on what you would like to organize, but it would be
> wonderful if you organized any kind of an event.
>
> Let us try something and see if we can work out a way to do a 'virtual
> mapathon' I know others have done it in the past.
>
> If you or anyone would like to join me at a "virtual mapathon" just
> follow this link:
> https://meet.jit.si/SriLankaMapping
>
> Just install whatever small plugin or something run in the browser
> window it asks for and join up. It has voice, video, screen sharing,
> chat. It is a good 'virtual hangout' app and it is open and free,
> Felix Delattre introduced me to it.
>
> I will be there, I look forward to seeing you and if it is not
> possible, just let us know what we might do to support your event. I
> look forward to seeing anyone :) on this Fridaymapternoon.
>
> Regards,
> Blake
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Danishka Navin <danis...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Robert,
> >
> > Thanks for the update.
> > I would like to host an virtual event.
> > I would like to thanks all the contributors those who put their valuable
> > time and energy.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Danishka
> >
> > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 12:33 AM, Robert Banick <rban...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> ~24 hours ago HOT activated in support of the Disaster Management Centre
> >> of Sri Lanka. We were requested to generate building information for the
> >> Kelani River Basin so household level damages could be accurately
> assessed.
> >>
> >> The area of interest provided was huge so we broke it into three tasks.
> In
> >> the past 24 hours we've completed 50% of one task. This is actually a
> major
> >> accomplishment, as this task focuses on the Colombo urban area and
> includes
> >> many dense, difficult to map areas.
> >>
> >> In addition to our "normal" amazing contributors from all over the world
> >> we had an exceptional response from South Asian OSM communities today.
> OSM
> >> Bangladesh, OSM Nepal and OSM India all organized and contributed to
> mapping
> >> the flood affected area in a really touching show of solidarity. Mapbox
> >> India also dedicated staff to digitizing and identifying the most useful
> >> imagery for the affected area. Thanks everyone!
> >>
> >> As night falls in Asia and the day drags on in the West we look forward
> to
> >> mapathons from SardiniaOpenData in Italy, Milehigh Maptime! /
> OSM-Colorado
> >> in Denver, USA and elsewhere focused on tasks 1913 and 1914 (soon to be
> >> published). If you're interested in organizing another mapathon in
> support
> >> of Sri Lanka please speak to Mikel Maron (mikel.ma...@hotosm.org) and
> he can
> >> help you get set you up!
> >>
> >>
> >> Our contact at the Disater Management Centre went on relief work today
> and
> >> reported to us that many houses were inundated up to the 2nd floor. All
> >> single story houses nearby the Kelani were completely inundated. This
> is a
> >> major urban area and that means a lot of people are homeless, wet and
> >> scared. Meanwhile inland, huge landslides are burying homes and people.
> It’s
> >> a national scale disaster and we’re focused on one of the biggest, most
> >> affected areas.
> >>
> >> Keep on mapping everyone. Our work goes directly into the hands of the
> >> disaster managers who need it most at this moment.
> >>
> >> - Robert
> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
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> > http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com
> > http://twitter.com/danishkanavin
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [HOT] HOT is activating to map for support of the relief efforts in Sri Lanka

[Robert Banick]

Hi Mike,

We have tasks 1914 and 195 already lined up, so worry not, you’ll have
plenty to do :-) Our requested area of interest is massive so we broke it
into three parts to make it more “digestible”.

If task 1913 nears completion one of the tasking manager admins will
“release” task 1914. If this is a concern mid-mapathon please contact Mikel
Maron or Blake Girardot promptly and they’ll sort you out.

Cheers,
Robert



On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:52 PM Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Blake,
>
> We are having a mapathon this evening in Denver Colorado US.  We would
> like to help out with Sri Lanka.  It looks like the #1913 is rapidly
> progressing.  Will there be another similar Sri Lanka project posted, or is
> #1913 cover the entire impacted area?
>
> Mike
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 12:23 AM, Claudia Mocci <mocc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Blake
>> We have the second mapping meeting ,tomorrow night ,with SardiniaOpenData
>> associates and volunteers and the topic is the Tasking Manager.
>> This will be our priority.
>> Happy to help and thanks to share
>>
>> Claudia
>> Il 18/mag/2016 23:54, "Blake Girardot HOT/OSM" <blake.girar...@hotosm.org>
>> ha scritto:
>>
>>> I should have mentioned, please share this via your social media
>>> channels.
>>>
>>> Here is a tweet from HOT to re-tweet:
>>> https://twitter.com/hotosm/status/733050014931423236
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Blake
>>> 
>>> Blake Girardot
>>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>>> Vice President, HOT Board of Directors
>>> skype: jblakegirardot
>>> HOT Core Team Contact: i...@hotosm.org
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
>>> <blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote:
>>> > Sri Lanka has been hit in the past few days by flooding:
>>> > https://www.bing.com/search?q=sri+lanka+flooding
>>> >
>>> > HOT has been asked to activate and immediately start tracing buildings
>>> > by the Disaster Management Center (DMC) of Sri Lanka, who work closely
>>> > with World Bank GFDRR. They are in urgent need of detailed housing
>>> > unit information.
>>> >
>>> > There are links on the HOT Tasking Manager:
>>> > http://tasks.hotosm.org/
>>> >
>>> > This is the earliest phase of response so we are actively working to
>>> > find other actors on the ground that the HOT Community can collect and
>>> > provide geo data for. This means that you should check the front page
>>> > of the tasking manager often, different jobs to support different
>>> > ground activities might be coming up.
>>> >
>>> > HOT members Robert Banick and Mikel Maron will be leading HOT's
>>> > response to this crisis. They can be contacted at:
>>> >
>>> > mikel.ma...@hotosm.org
>>> > rban...@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > For more information visit the 2016 Sri Lanka Floods wiki-page:
>>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2016_Sri_Lanka_Floods
>>> >
>>> > If you’d like to help with coordination, speak up, and we’ll bring you
>>> > into the Slack channel and Trello.
>>> >
>>> > Regretfully,
>>> > Blake
>>> > 
>>> > Blake Girardot
>>> > Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>>> > President, HOT Board of Directors
>>> > skype: jblakegirardot
>>> > HOT Core Team Contact: i...@hotosm.org
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Re: [HOT] HOT is activating to map for support of the relief efforts in Sri Lanka

[Robert Banick]

Fantastic, many thanks to you all Ahasanul!

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:38 AM Ahasanul Hoque <hoque.aha...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi, just to inform you that OSM Bangladesh community started mapping on
> the task.
>
> thanks
> Ahasan
>
>
> .
> Ahasanul Hoque
>
> *GIS & Data Mgt Specialist*MSc in RS and GIS | *AIT, Thailand.*
> MSc. in Env. Science| *KU, Bangladesh.*
> *Diploma in Disaster Mgt & Humanitarian Response* |
> *Uni of Hawai-USA, UNU, Keio& Okayama - Japan; AIT-Thailand.*
> *''Env. Sant. & Waste Mangt in Developing Countries'| *CES, UGENT- Belgium
> .
> *Contact: *hoque.aha...@gmail.com; ahasan...@yahoo.com
> <ahasan...@gmail.com> | Web: *ahasanulhoque.com*
> <http://ahasanulhoque.com/>
> *Skype: *ahasan4u | *Linkedin: **http://tinyurl.com/njg3xsp
> <http://tinyurl.com/njg3xsp> *
>
> Please, Consider the Environment before Printing this Mail !!!
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:52 AM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM <
> blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote:
>
>> Sri Lanka has been hit in the past few days by flooding:
>> https://www.bing.com/search?q=sri+lanka+flooding
>>
>> HOT has been asked to activate and immediately start tracing buildings
>> by the Disaster Management Center (DMC) of Sri Lanka, who work closely
>> with World Bank GFDRR. They are in urgent need of detailed housing
>> unit information.
>>
>> There are links on the HOT Tasking Manager:
>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/
>>
>> This is the earliest phase of response so we are actively working to
>> find other actors on the ground that the HOT Community can collect and
>> provide geo data for. This means that you should check the front page
>> of the tasking manager often, different jobs to support different
>> ground activities might be coming up.
>>
>> HOT members Robert Banick and Mikel Maron will be leading HOT's
>> response to this crisis. They can be contacted at:
>>
>> mikel.ma...@hotosm.org
>> rban...@gmail.com
>>
>> For more information visit the 2016 Sri Lanka Floods wiki-page:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2016_Sri_Lanka_Floods
>>
>> If you’d like to help with coordination, speak up, and we’ll bring you
>> into the Slack channel and Trello.
>>
>> Regretfully,
>> Blake
>> 
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Re: [HOT] HOT is activating to map for support of the relief efforts in Sri Lanka

[Robert Banick]

Thank you Blake for managing the original updates while I got some badly
needed sleep.

Everyone, I’ve worked in Sri Lanka on and off for the past year and can
testify that a lot of my friends and co-workers are suffering from the
flooding. My Facebook is full of pictures of cars and houses swamped by
water. It’s also full of people doing good work, including from the
government side. It’s not just the obvious response tasks either: I saw
some great photos just this morning of the local roads authority battling
out in the rains to mark roads with poles so others could navigate and not
get lost.

Point is, Sri Lanka’s government is exactly the kind of strong partner HOT
wants to work with in these emergencies. The Disaster Management Centre of
Sri Lanka is very keen on OpenStreetMap and has invested a lot of effort
over the past few years to figure out how to use OSM for emergency
preparedness. If the HOT community can come together and show them how
useful it is for emergency response as well that would be fantastic.

I hope all of you can find the time to map a little. From my side I’ll try
to make that as easy and productive as possible. Anyone who wants to join
the activation team can just email me and Mikel — we’ll get them added to
the various coordination resources.

Thanks in advance HOT community!

- Robert


On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:39 AM Blake Girardot HOT/OSM <
blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote:

> I should have mentioned, please share this via your social media channels.
>
> Here is a tweet from HOT to re-tweet:
> https://twitter.com/hotosm/status/733050014931423236
>
> Regards,
> Blake
> 
> Blake Girardot
> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
> Vice President, HOT Board of Directors
> skype: jblakegirardot
> HOT Core Team Contact: i...@hotosm.org
>
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
> <blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote:
> > Sri Lanka has been hit in the past few days by flooding:
> > https://www.bing.com/search?q=sri+lanka+flooding
> >
> > HOT has been asked to activate and immediately start tracing buildings
> > by the Disaster Management Center (DMC) of Sri Lanka, who work closely
> > with World Bank GFDRR. They are in urgent need of detailed housing
> > unit information.
> >
> > There are links on the HOT Tasking Manager:
> > http://tasks.hotosm.org/
> >
> > This is the earliest phase of response so we are actively working to
> > find other actors on the ground that the HOT Community can collect and
> > provide geo data for. This means that you should check the front page
> > of the tasking manager often, different jobs to support different
> > ground activities might be coming up.
> >
> > HOT members Robert Banick and Mikel Maron will be leading HOT's
> > response to this crisis. They can be contacted at:
> >
> > mikel.ma...@hotosm.org
> > rban...@gmail.com
> >
> > For more information visit the 2016 Sri Lanka Floods wiki-page:
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2016_Sri_Lanka_Floods
> >
> > If you’d like to help with coordination, speak up, and we’ll bring you
> > into the Slack channel and Trello.
> >
> > Regretfully,
> > Blake
> > 
> > Blake Girardot
> > Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
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Re: [HOT] India ban on "unofficial maps"

[Robert Banick]

Hey Sajjad —

Thanks for the update. Let us know if there’s anything the global HOT
community can do to realistically support your campaign.

Robert

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 9:13 AM Sajjad Anwar  wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> Ralph - thanks for bringing this here. A few of us have started a
> campaign and collecting responses to the ministry to reduce the scope
> of this bill. You can follow the conversations on
> http://savethemap.in/
>
> The bill in it's current state is very unlikely to get approved. Will
> keep you posted.
>
> Cheers,
> Sajjad
> (https://twitter.com/geohacker)
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Carissa Brittain
>  wrote:
> > The article in Geospatial World
> > (http://geospatialworld.net/Professional/ViewBlog.aspx?id=477) has a
> link to
> > the May 5 draft of the bill
> > (
> http://www.dst.gov.in/sites/default/files/Draft-NGP-Ver%201%20ammended_05May2016.pdf
> )
> > but it doesn't seem to be complete.
> >
> > Techdirt's article
> > (
> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160509/09563834390/indias-proposed-geospatial-information-regulation-bill-would-shut-down-most-map-based-services-there.shtml
> )
> > seems to have a more complete version:
> >
> http://mha.nic.in/sites/upload_files/mha/files/GeospatialBill_05052016_eve.pdf
> >
> > 'Carissa Brittain
> >
> > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Ralph Aytoun  >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> An item for discussion.
> >> This particular scenario existed when I was working for Philip’s and we
> >> had to send to India for prior approval, an exact copy of any map of
> India
> >> that we would include in any of our atlases. It appears that India is
> going
> >> to roll this out further.
> >>
> >> Is this something HOT will have to get prior permission for in the event
> >> of a natural disaster? It certainly appears that way.
> >>
> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36276754
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Ralph Aytoun
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Re: [HOT] OSM Fiji linked with U-Report for TC Winston response

[Robert Banick]

Hi Kate,

If you can get explicit permissions to import the data under OSM’s ODBL
license — explicit being a signed statement from the data’s owners saying
that — then an import is 100% possible. The licensing requirement is very
strictly enforced so that’s fundamental. License aside, imports can take
some time though so be prepared to be patient. There are members on this
listserv with a lot of import experience who could give you advice to make
the process faster.

If you want to edit the boundaries yourself you’re more than welcome to if
you know the right answers. If there are lots of edits to be made then an
import might be faster — if there are just a few then self-editing might be
fastest.

You can certainly get feedback from this listserv about which tags to use /
possible problems editing the data. As Russ suggests, Fiji is a bit of a
special case because it straddles the 180th meridian, which can make some
things difficult.

Hope this is helpful!

Best,
Robert







On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:31 AM Kate Learmonth 
wrote:

> Thank you Russel.
>
> From what I understand there isn't complete data at the top level
> (state). Things don't seem to be correctly tagged, for example the Western
> Division boundary has no administrative level etc.. As this is a national
> boundary I am not sure of how to go about correcting this. There also seems
> to be a general lack of detailed data that has been mapped so far.
>
> At the moment I am trying to determine if it is a matter of simply going
> in and making the changes or given that it is a political boundary do we
> need government buy in etc??
>
> I am also trying to determine if it is worth going through the process of
> doing a bulk import. While it looks like we can get access
> to detailed shape files (MapInfo) I don't know if they meet
> the licensing requirements). So I am trying to determine if we can get
> around this and fix the issue quickly so that we can use it for the
> U-Report Fiji website.
>
> Being new to OSM if anyone has any thoughts or ideas I am very open
> to suggestions!
>
> Thank you!
>
> Kate
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Russell Deffner <
> russell.deff...@hotosm.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kate,
>>
>>
>>
>> U-Report looks great, there are probably others that can give you better
>> assistance, but I’m wondering if some of the errors are related to the 180
>> th meridian? You might find some of the information you need on one of
>> these pages: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/180th_meridian or
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Fiji
>>
>>
>>
>> I also don’t do much editing of political boundaries, but I’m sure if
>> something needs fixed – it can be. Maybe a little more information on the
>> exact nature of the ‘errors’ and someone can provide more details.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> =Russ
>>
>>
>>
>> Russell Deffner
>>
>> russell.deff...@hotosm.org
>>
>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT)
>>
>> http://hotosm.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Kate Learmonth [mailto:kate.learmo...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:30 PM
>> *To:* hot@openstreetmap.org
>> *Subject:* [HOT] OSM Fiji linked with U-Report for TC Winston response
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear HOT list,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am working with UNICEF Pacific to roll out U-Report Fiji as a pilot
>> community feedback mechanism for TC Winston. This will be the first time it
>> will be government-led and used in this type of emergency response. The
>> Fijian Government is also interested in using U-Report for early warning,
>> early response
>>
>>
>>
>> Due to errors in OSM for Fiji we are having trouble importing the map
>> into the U-Report Fiji site https://fiji.ureport.in (live but not
>> active). I am hoping someone on the HOT list can assist.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts on how to correct and improve OSM Fiji?
>>
>>
>>
>> I am copying part of an email below for further detail.
>>
>>
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Kate
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We are working closely with the Fijian Government on the implementation
>> of U-Report Fiji as the foundations of a community feedback mechanism post
>> Cyclone Winston. As you may be aware the U-Report websites map the polling
>> data using OSM https://ureport.in (global site).
>>
>>
>>
>> Our RapidPro Vendor Nyaruka has informed us that there isn't complete
>> data for Fiji; including at State level with things not being correctly
>> tagged. For example, the Western boundary has no administrative level. The
>> Secretariat of the Pacific Community (SPC) Geosciences division works
>> closely with the Fijian Government and has mapped to 1:50,000 in MapInfo
>> and could provide the shape files to correct the boundaries and hopefully
>> improve data completeness (proper permissions and licenses to use the
>> data in OSM still needs to be formally requested). However, as I am new
>> to OSM I am not sure how to go about correcting this information on such a
>> large scale (fyi http://www.spc.int).
>>
>
> 

Re: [HOT] Hot on the Ground

[Robert Banick]

Best of luck Douglas and team! It’s nice to hear that mapping continues in
Gulu.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:43 AM Heather Leson 
wrote:

> Hi Douglas and Uganda teams.
>
> Have a great event today and later in the week!
>
> heather
>
> Heather Leson
> heatherle...@gmail.com
> Twitter/skype: HeatherLeson
> Blog: textontechs.com
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Douglas Ssebaggala <
> douglas.ssebagg...@hotosm.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Hotties..
>>
>> Following the previous updates
>> 
>>  on
>> mapping financial services
>> 
>> in Uganda, and execution of the major phases of the project, HOT is currently
>> on the ground in Gulu.
>>
>> A few hours from now, we shall be holding a one day training at Gulu
>> University (Northern Uganda) and in the next 2 days we shall be in Fort
>> portal (Western Uganda).
>>
>> This is an additional training focusing on "crowdsourcing financial
>> Services" which has been used in the previously completed phases: Mbale,
>> Tororo, Jinja and Kampala. Also aimed at strengthening the existing OSM
>> communities.
>>
>> If there's any suggestion from the community on additional interesting
>> areas we can focus on in the next two days, feel free to let us know either
>> on or offlist.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> --
>>
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>> *Mapping Supervisor "Financial Services", Uganda
>>
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>> Skype: douglo.m
>> Twitter: @douglaseru 
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Re: [HOT] New mapper needs some feedback :-)

[Robert Banick]

Hi Martin,

I didn’t have time to review your work, but just wanted to add: don’t
despair if you complete some tiles and they aren’t promptly validated! HOT
has grown a lot in the past year or so and we have a lot more mappers than
validators as a result. So sometimes it can take a little time to get a
response. Posting to the listserv like you did is a great way to call
attention to tiles that need a second look. Welcome to OSM and keep on
mapping!

— Robert

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:35 PM Shawn Day  wrote:

> Well done Martin. I just took a quick look at tile 371.
> It is well mapped and you did a very fine job.
> There are a few things I corrected in validating.
> 1. In a couple cases when you  squared the buildings, they grew in size
> (as they do and most were well squared) and needed to be slightly reduced
> in size to match the underlying imagery.
> 2. In a few cases the building encompassed the walled yard - the imagery
> is soft and light so easily done. Reduced the area to the building.
> 3. In a few cases, there were overlaps between buildings - again suspect
> that in the squaring function, the revised shape grew and caused the
> overlap - there was an overlap or two between roadways (well defined btw)
> buildings.
> 4. And as we all have a few errant buildings that somehow escaped
> the squaring function.
> Overall, a well done tile and well done by you.
> Keep on mapping.
>
>
> ~~ day.sh...@gmail.com
> ~~ @iridium
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:37 a.m., Martin Weil  wrote:
>
> Hi there!
>
> I am new to HOT and started mapping a few days ago. As far as I can see,
> non of the tiles that I finished were validated yet, so I don’t know if the
> work I am doing is ok, or I am just creating a lot more work for others to
> clean up my mess. I would like to avoid that. :-)
>
> I read basically everything on learnosm.org apart from the JOSM part that
> I will start when I am more confident that my mapping quality is ok. But
> the examples are quite trivial and I could not find much information on
> what to map and not to map in cities/towns.
>
> Also I see a lot of tiles where there is a misalignment between the bing
> imagery and the mapped buildings, mostly because people looked at the map
> box data and aligned their traces accordingly, and I guess some were just
> too much in a hurry to align properly. But since I am new I don’t want to
> judge.
>
> So, if anyone has a bit of time to spare, I’d like some feedback on the
> work I did so far.
>
> Thank you very much.
> Martin (flubby)
>
> Some tiles I finished:
>
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/884#task/377
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/884#task/375
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/884#task/20
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/884#task/371
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Re: [HOT] building, construction, ruins, livestock pen or?

[Robert Banick]

Hi Mike. I don’t know Swaziland very well but it doesn’t look like a
building to me. A livestock pen perhaps but it’s a bit far from anything
else and very small besides. Perhaps chicken houses? Or a waste pit?



On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:32 AM Mike Thompson  wrote:

> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/394119391
>
> Looks to me like something that was a building once, but whose roof has
> since collapsed. Perhaps someone on this list has on the ground experience
> in a country like this (Swaziland) and can give us some insight.
>
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Re: [HOT] PetaJakarta

[Robert Banick]

Wonderful work all, this is just great
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 12:31 PM Heather Leson 
wrote:

> Congratulations everyone!
>
> Heather
> On 3 Feb 2016 01:54, "Tyler Radford"  wrote:
>
>> If you haven't seen it, check out PetaJakarta, a great example of OSM "in
>> action":
>>
>>
>> http://www.theguardian.com/public-leaders-network/2016/jan/25/floods-jakarta-indonesia-twitter-petajakarta-org
>>
>> Congrats to the HOT Indonesia team who have worked on a number of
>> important activities to improve OSM data used by the platform, including
>> mapping administrative boundaries in Jakarta.
>>
>> Tyler
>>
>> *Tyler Radford*
>> Executive Director
>> email: tyler.radf...@hotosm.org
>> U.S. mobile: +1 617.285.2009
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[HOT] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Zaatari refugee camp, Jordan / UNHCR / REACH

[Robert Banick]

FYI all. My contacts at REACH have moved on from it, does anyone here have
contacts with the current REACH Jordan team?

In a larger sense these questions of sustainability and long-term accuracy
will be a recurring issue for humanitarian mapping of camps so it would be
good to explore this topic more. I would type some thoughts but I'm on a
tiny phone screen right now.
-- Forwarded message --
From: "Frederik Ramm" 
Date: 21 Dec 2015 06:00
Subject: [OSM-talk] Zaatari refugee camp, Jordan / UNHCR / REACH
To: "Talk Openstreetmap" 
Cc:

Hi,

   I see that there's a lot of detail mapped at this refugee camp

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=32.2946012020=36.3242769241333#map=14/32.2946/36.3243

but when inspecting things more closely, most information seems to come
from imports that are more than a year old.

How stable are camps like this - is it prudent to assume that either

(a) if there was a greengrocer two years ago in a place, it will likely
still be there?

or

(b) the people who have imported data two years ago as part of their
job/project/assignment will still be around and change things as necessary?

or

(c) people living in the camp have the necessary training and resources
to take map updates into their own hands?

I'd love to get in touch with people who mapped this camp, or others in
the more recent past, for a couple of general refugee camp mapping
questions.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [HOT] Projects on the HOT OSM Tasking Manager - lots of them

[Robert Banick]

Hi Yantisa,




That’s great to hear. The team I’m working with in Sri Lanka is also doing a 
lot of validation at this moment and would be interested in the translated 
version when it’s ready. Do you have an approximate translation date in mind?




Best,

Robert


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On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Yantisa Akhadi <yantisa.akh...@hotosm.org>
wrote:

> HOT Indonesia currently developing curriculum and training material for OSM
> Data Validation. This is to expand existing validation curriculum in the
> Activation Curriculum. The draft is still in Indonesian language, we will
> share it once we translate it to English. Thank you for the link Maning, I
> believe our team can learn from it as well.
> Best,
> *Yantisa Akhadi (Iyan)*
> *Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team*
> Tel: +62 81 5787 03388  Email: yantisa.akh...@hotosm.org
> hot.openstreetmap.org | openstreetmap.id
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:00 AM, maning sambale <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> We have great training materials to onboard new mappers.  Maybe its
>> time to focus on developing more materials for validation and recruit
>> more validators?
>>
>> The current tasking manager requires you to validate each task.  But,
>> in most cases, quality of edits depend on a specific mapper.  We can
>> do validation by user edits instead of by task.  For example, at
>> Mapbox, we regularly review every edit of our data team (to ensure we
>> contribute quality data and we are good OSM citizens).  Instead of
>> going through each task we review all of the edits of the user in a
>> given project using overpass, JOSM's todo list and validator tools.
>> See example here:
>> https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/135#issuecomment-161922079
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Robert Banick <rban...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I think Daniel’s suggestion is a good idea; we don’t make nearly enough
>> use
>> > of the front page. I would also like the ability to use custom filters,
>> > perhaps based off the task hashtags?
>> >
>> > —
>> > Sent from Mailbox
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Daniel O'Connor <
>> daniel.ocon...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I raised https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/718
>> focused
>> >> only on the front page list/different purposes it serves. Ideas or
>> examples
>> >> of other 'task priority' UI encouraged.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Something that baffles me about the TM is that when a task is split,
>> the
>> >>> original tile seems to disappear from existence, even though people
>> could
>> >>> still have a reference to it, they will get a not found message and
>> they
>> >>> can't read the comments anymore.
>> >>>
>> >>> As a long time OSM contritbutor, I started doing validation work. I
>> >>> always try to read the instructions, but I also find I'm jumping
>> between
>> >>> tasks quite often. It poses its own challenges... Anyway, I tend to
>> prefer
>> >>> the tasks where not every building needs to be mapped, but sometimes
>> it's
>> >>> hard to find the middle ground. In a tile where almost nothing is
>> visible,
>> >>> I'd try to map at least something like the rivers and the occasional
>> >>> footpath. By mapping the rivers it becomes easier to find the 'roads'
>> where
>> >>> they cross the rivers. And the rivers are nice reference points by
>> >>> themselves as well, of course.
>> >>>
>> >>> Polyglot
>> >>>
>> >>> 2015-12-06 17:58 GMT+01:00 Dale Kunce <dale.ku...@gmail.com>:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ralf and John.
>> >>>> I don't either of you are ranting but providing good feedback that
>> >>>> aligns with my own thinking about tasks. I favor smaller tasks that
>> can be
>> >>>> completed quickly rather than huge tasks that take multiple mappers to
>> >>>> complete.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> One thing that I think we are moving towards is a set of guidelines
>> for
>> >>>> TM PMs. This will standardize a lot of language and help keep tasks
>> >>>> manageable. I'm working on a draft that I'll share with the HOT and
>> TM PM
>>

Re: [HOT] Projects on the HOT OSM Tasking Manager - lots of them

[Robert Banick]

I think Daniel’s suggestion is a good idea; we don’t make nearly enough use of 
the front page. I would also like the ability to use custom filters, perhaps 
based off the task hashtags?


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wrote:

> I raised https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/718 focused
> only on the front page list/different purposes it serves. Ideas or examples
> of other 'task priority' UI encouraged.
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Jo  wrote:
>> Something that baffles me about the TM is that when a task is split, the
>> original tile seems to disappear from existence, even though people could
>> still have a reference to it, they will get a not found message and they
>> can't read the comments anymore.
>>
>> As a long time OSM contritbutor, I started doing validation work. I always
>> try to read the instructions, but I also find I'm jumping between tasks
>> quite often. It poses its own challenges... Anyway, I tend to prefer the
>> tasks where not every building needs to be mapped, but sometimes it's hard
>> to find the middle ground. In a tile where almost nothing is visible, I'd
>> try to map at least something like the rivers and the occasional footpath.
>> By mapping the rivers it becomes easier to find the 'roads' where they
>> cross the rivers. And the rivers are nice reference points by themselves as
>> well, of course.
>>
>> Polyglot
>>
>> 2015-12-06 17:58 GMT+01:00 Dale Kunce :
>>
>>> Ralf and John.
>>> I don't either of you are ranting but providing good feedback that aligns
>>> with my own thinking about tasks. I favor smaller tasks that can be
>>> completed quickly rather than huge tasks that take multiple mappers to
>>> complete.
>>>
>>> One thing that I think we are moving towards is a set of guidelines for
>>> TM PMs. This will standardize a lot of language and help keep tasks
>>> manageable. I'm working on a draft that I'll share with the HOT and TM PM
>>> lists once it's ready to share.
>>>
>>> Thanks as always for your time.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015, 11:35 AM Ralf Stephan  wrote:
>>>
 The key for moving people from one-time to many-time contribution is
 motivation.
 I have seen volunteers suddenly much more motivated when I commented
 with more
 than a few words on a validation I did. But at least equally important
 is task and tile size.
 Large tasks are tackled more than a few times only by long-time
 contributors. Why have
 such big tasks when there is no hurry? I know I am more motivated if
 tile sizes are small.
 I'm sure it's more so with new contributors, so why have such large
 tiles per default, if
 they aren't completed anyway? Everything is made ever more casual, but I
 need 30-60
 minutes to complete the smallest tile size to my satisfaction. Please
 increase the split
 count AND make the default tile size smaller, or you will never get
 enough completed tiles by people who want to invest rather 15 than minutes.

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Re: [HOT] Congratulations to the Ramani Huria Team

[Robert Banick]

I meant to say when this was posted that it’s super cool :). Great work!

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wrote:

> Cool! Great job Ramani Huria Team!
> *Yantisa Akhadi (Iyan)*
> *Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team*
> Tel: +62 81 5787 03388  Email: yantisa.akh...@hotosm.org
> hot.openstreetmap.org | openstreetmap.id
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 1:41 AM, Heather Leson 
> wrote:
>> HI everyone, the hard work of the Ramani Huria team is mentioned in this
>> Al Jazeera piece.
>>
>> http://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2015/drowning_megacities/
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Heather
>>
>> Heather Leson
>> heatherle...@gmail.com
>> Twitter: HeatherLeson
>> Blog: textontechs.com
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[HOT] Closing Hurricane Patricia Activation

[Robert Banick]

English version — Español abajo 


Hi everyone,


Today HOT is formally announcing the closure of the Hurricane Patricia 
Activation. 


As most of you are aware, the west coast of Mexico was threatened by Hurricane 
Patricia, a category-5 hurricane, several weeks ago. HOT activated to assist 
the Mexican government and OSM community prior to the storm and mapped a 
significant chunk of the coastal and interior areas at risk. With the hurricane 
having passed with relatively minor damages and reconstruction well under way, 
we judged it time to close the activation.


A lot of people and institutions deserve thanks for their contributions: 
Rodolfo Wilhelmy, Miriam Gonzalez and the rest of OSM MX for their assistance 
and advice. Rafael Avila Coya for his coordination contributions in the early 
stage of the activation. DigitalGlobe for contributing a huge stock of 
high-resolution imagery. The Telenav team for volunteering data up for import. 
The Mapbox data team for tracing and validating huge chunks of these tasks. 
Most of all, the volunteers who helped trace, validate, check imagery or 
otherwise contributed. 


Additionally, we're very pleased to share with you an official letter of thanks 
from the Mexican government's Director General of Open Data, Ania Calderón 
Mariscal. In it she commends us on the quality of our work and the timeliness 
of our assistance. Formal recognition from a national government, especially of 
México's size, is a huge success and all of you who contributed should be very 
proud. We certainly are.


The full letter text can be found here in English and Spanish: 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1jqgLwknF63VFRONnhUVGdtYzg/view


With this notice we're archiving task 1257 and moving task 1258 to "low 
priority" on the tasking manager. 1257 is 99% validated and functionally done; 
1258 is only 51% done but realistically there are dozens tasks that should be 
higher on the priority list. If you are motivated to contribute to task 1258 in 
your spare time please feel free to do so -- it's always great to reach 100%.


We’ll try schedule an after action review some time next week to talk through 
what went well and what could be improved in future activations. I hope you all 
can join us.


Finally, thank you all for letting us lead this activation. It was a real honor.


Your leads,
Humberto Yances and Robert Banick


Versíon en español


Hola a todos,


Hoy HOT anuncia formalmente el cierre la activación para el huracán Patricia.


Como la mayoría de ustedes saben, hace varias semanas la costa oeste de México 
se vio amenazada por el huracán Patricia, un huracán de categoría-5. El HOT fue 
activado para asistir al gobierno mexicano y a la comunidad OSM antes de la 
llegada de la tormenta y mapeo un pedazo significativo de las zonas costeras e 
interiores en riesgo. Con el paso del huracán, que ha dejado daños 
relativamente menores y con la reconstrucción en marcha, juzgamos que el 
momento de cerrar la activación.


Una gran cantidad de personas e instituciones merecen las gracias por sus 
contribuciones: Rodolfo Wilhelmy, Miriam González y el resto de OSM MX por su 
ayuda y consejo. Rafael Ávila Coya por sus contribuciones de coordinación en la 
etapa temprana de la activación. DigitalGlobe por contribuir con un gran 
inventario de imágenes de alta resolución. El equipo Telenav por el 
voluntariado para la preparación de datos para la importación. El equipo de 
datos Mapbox por el trazado y validación de enormes trozos de estas tareas. Más 
que todo, a los voluntarios que ayudaron a trazar, validar, verificar las 
imágenes o contribuyeron de una u otra manera.


Además, estamos muy contentos de compartir con ustedes una carta oficial de 
agradecimiento de la Directora General para los Datos Abiertos del Gobierno de 
México, Ania Calderón Mariscal. En esta se elogia la calidad de nuestro trabajo 
y la puntualidad de nuestra ayuda. El reconocimiento formal de un gobierno 
nacional, especialmente del tamaño de México, es un gran éxito y todos los que 
contribuyeron debe estar muy orgulloso. Sin duda, nos encontramos.


El texto completo de la carta se puede encontrar aquí en Inglés y Español:


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1jqgLwknF63VFRONnhUVGdtYzg/view


Con esta notificación estamos archivando la tarea 1257 y moviendo la tarea 1258 
hacia "baja prioridad" en el Tasking Manager. La 1257 está 99% validada y 
funcionalmente hecha; La 1258 lleva sólo el 51% hecha, siendo realistas hay 
docenas tareas que deberían estar más arriba en la lista de prioridades. Si te 
animas a contribuir a la tarea de 1258 en su tiempo libre por favor siéntase 
libre de hacerlo --siempre es maravilloso alcanzar el 100%.


Intentarémos programar un revisa después de la acción en la semana siguinete 
para revisar que pasó bien y que podríamos mejorar. Ojala que nos puedan juntar.


Por último, gracias a todos por permitirnos liderar esta activación. Fue un 
verdadero 

Re: [HOT] Hurricane Patricia Update: October 25

[Robert Banick]

Hi Mike,




The DigitalGlobe images you’re looking in that imagery TMs were taken before 
Patricia, not after. Because of the narrow extent of the disaster and the 
capable response of the Mexican government we decided not to prioritize 
obtaining and mapping post-disaster imagery. Our efforts are instead focused on 
mapping what was there before so that responders can utilize that data to 
assess damages afterwards for themselves.




Mapping post-disaster objects is always a heavy task with lots of potential for 
error from incomplete imagery. In this case the Mexican government can likely 
do a better job faster than we can, so we’re sticking to simpler tasks we can 
do well quickly.




Best,

Robert





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On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Mike  Dupont
<jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I dont know if I am doing something wrong. I am reading up on the
> damage from patricia.
> here it says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Patricia#Mexico
> "The small town of Chamela was completely leveled" but looking at this
> imagery 
> tms[99]:https://api.mapbox.com/v4/digitalglobe.vivid-latam-caribbean/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZGlnaXRhbGdsb2JlIiwiYSI6ImNpZzRqYng4OTJ1NWd0emt2b3Q2dWhwNXQifQ.8ohSIF9elaL6Z6Cx69Joxg
> in josm I do not see any differences between the bing images and the
> original. I do not see any damage like we saw in nepal.
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=19.53=-105.07=15#map=15/19.5300/-105.0733
> can someone point out the damage recorded so far? what has been the
> impact of this storm?
> thanks,
> mike
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Taichi Furuhashi <tai...@osmf.jp> wrote:
>> Hi Robert and HOT members:
>>
>>
>> I'm a HOT member in Japan.
>>
>> We have shared "The inland mapping task" to Japanese mappers.
>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1258
>>
>> Major mappers are newbies, because they are students.
>>
>> If you can, I want to translate some description in Japanese for beginners
>> in Japan.
>> Could you add editable permission to me?
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/MAPconcierge
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> from Taichi
>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-10-25 22:03 GMT+09:00 Robert Banick <rban...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Versión en Español viniendo pronto
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Hurricane Patricia has been downgraded to a tropical depression. In
>>> practical terms this marks its end as a notable weather event. Thanks to a
>>> lucky storm path that avoided population centers and good preparedness work
>>> by the Mexican authorities not a single person died. However, significant
>>> property damage occurred and much rebuilding remains to be done,
>>> particularly along the coast. We anticipate HOT's data will assist
>>> reconstruction in the affected areas.
>>>
>>> HOT, in coordination with the OSM MX commnunity, has been active the past
>>> two days tracking the hurricane's progress and mapping vulnerable areas in
>>> its path. We have two mapping tasks open on the OSM Tasking Manager
>>> (tasks.hotosm.org): a task covering coastal areas in the storm's path and a
>>> task mapping more inland areas. We do not anticipate opening additional
>>> tasks but we are monitoring the situation in case landslides, floods or
>>> other post-hurricane hazards create humanitarian situations we can
>>> contribute to.
>>>
>>> Thanks to the hard work of volunteers like yourself we've made good
>>> progress. At present the coastal mapping task
>>> (http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1257) is almost completely mapped but only
>>> partly validated; validators would be most appreciated on this task. The
>>> inland mapping task (http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1258) is only 15%
>>> complete and needs a lot more work. For those who are new to HOT or OSM and
>>> still want to contribute, this second task is a perfect place to start.
>>>
>>> Additionally, HOT is working with data providers to prepare one or more
>>> data imports for the affected areas. We have received explicit permission
>>> from the Mexican Government to import anything on its open data site
>>> (http://datos.gob.mx/) into OSM - a very exciting first. Potential data
>>> useful for Patricia includes administrative boundaries, roads, schools
>>> and/or hospitals. For those who are curious about this, please follow the
>>> osm-imports list (https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports) where we
>>> will post plans for any import(s).
>>>

Re: [HOT] Need a help on OSM workshop

[Robert Banick]

Hi Danishka,




I’d be happy to help out, especially as I’m already working with some OSMers in 
Sri Lanka. Are you based in Sri Lanka? Could you contact me on skype at 
robert.banick or viber? Whichever is easiest for you.




Best,

Robert Banick


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> Hi,
> I am planning to host a virtual event for to get activive OSM community in
> Sri Lanka.
> Highly appreciate your advice, guidence.
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Danishka Navin
> http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com
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[HOT] Hurricane Patricia Update: October 25

[Robert Banick]

Versión en Español viniendo pronto


Hi all,


Hurricane Patricia has been downgraded to a tropical depression. In practical 
terms this marks its end as a notable weather event. Thanks to a lucky storm 
path that avoided population centers and good preparedness work by the Mexican 
authorities not a single person died. However, significant property damage 
occurred and much rebuilding remains to be done, particularly along the coast. 
We anticipate HOT's data will assist reconstruction in the affected areas.


HOT, in coordination with the OSM MX commnunity, has been active the past two 
days tracking the hurricane's progress and mapping vulnerable areas in its 
path. We have two mapping tasks open on the OSM Tasking Manager 
(tasks.hotosm.org): a task covering coastal areas in the storm's path and a 
task mapping more inland areas. We do not anticipate opening additional tasks 
but we are monitoring the situation in case landslides, floods or other 
post-hurricane hazards create humanitarian situations we can contribute to.


Thanks to the hard work of volunteers like yourself we've made good progress. 
At present the coastal mapping task (http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1257) is 
almost completely mapped but only partly validated; validators would be most 
appreciated on this task. The inland mapping task 
(http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1258) is only 15% complete and needs a lot 
more work. For those who are new to HOT or OSM and still want to contribute, 
this second task is a perfect place to start.


Additionally, HOT is working with data providers to prepare one or more data 
imports for the affected areas. We have received explicit permission from the 
Mexican Government to import anything on its open data site 
(http://datos.gob.mx/) into OSM - a very exciting first. Potential data useful 
for Patricia includes administrative boundaries, roads, schools and/or 
hospitals. For those who are curious about this, please follow the osm-imports 
list (https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports) where we will post 
plans for any import(s).


Thank you to all those who have contributed so far in small ways or large. We 
appreciate the efforts of each and every one of you so very much.


With all the best,
Robert, Humberto and Rafael


*Key Links*


For those curious for additional details about this activation, please refer to 
the project wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Hurricane_Patricia


For those just getting started with HOT / OSM or just curious, check out 
MapGive, which explains why this work is so important: 
http://mapgive.state.gov/why-map/


If you want to learn more about mapping after that, go through the mapbox 
tutorials: https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/wiki/Mapping-with-OpenStreetMap


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Re: [HOT] Tools in iD offsetting

[Robert Banick]

Hi 


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On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Suzan Reed  wrote:

> The tools in iD are not making lines under the tool tip. When mapping, the 
> tool tip is about 50 feet from where the actual line or area is being drawn 
> (tool tip is to the right, line is to the left). Could have been a one-time 
> glitch, but happened everywhere on 
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1258#task/297. 
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Re: [HOT] Tools in iD offsetting

[Robert Banick]

HI Suzan,




I just tried out the task you specified and iD worked fine. Perhaps it’s a 
browser issue on your end? Have you tried resetting your browser?




Best,

Robert


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> The tools in iD are not making lines under the tool tip. When mapping, the 
> tool tip is about 50 feet from where the actual line or area is being drawn 
> (tool tip is to the right, line is to the left). Could have been a one-time 
> glitch, but happened everywhere on 
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1258#task/297. 
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Re: [HOT] Cat-5 Hurricane Patricia heading to Mexican Pacific Coast

[Robert Banick]

Hi Rodolfo,




Unfortunately, the OSM community has historically viewed CC-BY as incompatible 
with ODBL. As I understand it ODBL’s “share-alike” provisions are more 
stringent than CC-BY. To be on the safe side the OSM community has historically 
asked for explicit permission to import according to ODBL instead of assuming 
compatibility, even in disaster situations. I believe there’s a draft 
“permission statement” out there that you can bring to whoever needs to give 
the OK. Does anyone on this list have a copy?




There’s a lot of debate within OSM about whether this is the correct way to go 
about things. I for one think ODBL is a self-imposed straightjacket. But given 
that we’ve historically viewed imports this way it’s best to go along for 
efficiency’s sake. The good news is that if you’re already adopting CC-BY your 
team probably has their heart in the right place and will go along.




COD/FOD is a great place to start — that’s where international humanitarians 
will pitch up first for data. Most of them aren’t as OSM-savvy as us so any 
extracts that can be done ahead of time and parked there would be great.




Best,

Robert


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On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Rodolfo Wilhelmy <rwilhe...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Robert,
> Good news is that the government is pushing an Open Data Policy at the
> federal level (I work at that team). And we have a CC-BY compatible license
> in the official data portal (see datos.gob.mx/libreusomx), which AFAIK is
> somewhat compatible with ODBL - an attribution-only kind of license. This
> works right?
> In the meantime I'm collecting COD/FODs datasets for HDX and datos.gob.mx,
> Do you think COD/FOD is a good framework to start?
> Thanks again
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 2:23 AM Robert Banick <rban...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Rodolfo,
>>
>> Importing said critcial infrastructure data could be a useful preparatory
>> step. That way any subsequent HOT activations would build off of existing
>> data instead of wasting time recreating it.
>>
>> In particular, securing clear permission to import missing critical
>> infrastructure data according to OSM’s ODBL license would be helpful. A lot
>> of imports stall because of a lack of clear licensing permissions; rarely
>> are responsible bodies able to process these requests in the midst of
>> disasters, when the approving supervisors are incredibly busy with response
>> tasks.
>>
>> Best,
>> Robert
>>
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>>
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Rodolfo Wilhelmy <rwilhe...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Greetings from Mexico
>>>
>>> As some of you might already know, a Category-5 Hurricane has formed in
>>> the Pacific Coast and it's heading to the western mexican coast. Official
>>> sources estimate that it will hit the coast by tomorrow (friday) afternoon
>>> (GMT-0500).
>>>
>>> Let's hope this doesn't escalate.
>>>
>>> How should the OSM community in Mexico prepare for this? As of now, we
>>> are collecting official data sources of critical infrastructure, some of it
>>> not present in OSM yet.
>>>
>>> Any recommendations before this event happens?
>>> Is there something we could prepare beforehand a possible humanitarian
>>> activation?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> *References*
>>> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_ep5.shtml?5-daynl#contents
>>>
>>> http://www.google.org/publicalerts/alert?aid=f416f754eb3bdc2=pa=es=419
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Patricia
>>>
>>> *Image*:
>>>
>>> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/EP20/refresh/EP2015W5_NL_sm2+gif/053225W5_NL_sm.gif
>>>
>>>
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[HOT] Hurricane Patricia Activation and Initial Task

[Robert Banick]

English


Greetings All,


Category-5 Hurricane Patricia is scheduled to make landfall on the western 
coast of Mexico in the next few hours. In anticipation of considerable damages 
and response necessities HOT has activated. Myself, Humberto Yances and Rafael 
Avila Correa will be leading the activation from the vantage point of our 
respective time zones (Colombia / Spain / Nepal).


HOT has created an initial task to map the highly vulnereble coastal areas. 
Please pitch in at http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1257.


We’ll be launching additional tasks in the forthcoming hours and days, as we 
obtain more information about needs from partners in government and the 
humanitarian community. Pay attention to this space for additional 
announcements.


Thanks,
Robert, Humberto and Rafael


Español


Hola todo el mundo,


Huracán Patricia esta esperado a entrar en tierra en la costa oeste de Mexico 
en las horas siguientes. En anticipación de daños considerables HOT ha 
activado. Yo, Humberto Yances y Rafael Avila Correa coordinarámos la Activación 
por nuestros propias zonas horarias (Colombia / España / Nepal).


HOT ha creado una tarea initial para mapear la zona costal muy vulnerable. Por 
favor contribuir en http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1257


Vamos a crear tareas adicionales en los dias y hoas siguiente, cuando obtenemos 
más información sobre neceisdades por socios en gobierno y la comunidad 
humanitariana. Presta atención en este espacio para anuncios adicionales.


Gracias,
Robert, Humberto y Rafael



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Re: [HOT] Hurricane Patricia Activation and Initial Task

[Robert Banick]

Mierdia. Como debo decirlo?


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On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:29 PM, hyan...@gmail.com <hyan...@gmail.com>
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> Abajo donde dice horas y necesidades hay q corregir
> El oct. 23, 2015 12:38 PM, "Robert Banick" <rban...@gmail.com> escribió:
>> *English*
>>
>> Greetings All,
>>
>> Category-5 Hurricane Patricia is scheduled to make landfall on the western
>> coast of Mexico in the next few hours. In anticipation of considerable
>> damages and response necessities HOT has activated. Myself, Humberto Yances
>> and Rafael Avila Correa will be leading the activation from the vantage
>> point of our respective time zones (Colombia / Spain / Nepal).
>>
>> HOT has created an initial task to map the highly vulnereble coastal
>> areas. Please pitch in at http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1257.
>>
>> We’ll be launching additional tasks in the forthcoming hours and days, as
>> we obtain more information about needs from partners in government and the
>> humanitarian community. Pay attention to this space for additional
>> announcements.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robert, Humberto and Rafael
>>
>> *Español*
>>
>> Hola todo el mundo,
>>
>> Huracán Patricia esta esperado a entrar en tierra en la costa oeste de
>> Mexico en las horas siguientes. En anticipación de daños considerables HOT
>> ha activado. Yo, Humberto Yances y Rafael Avila Correa coordinarámos la
>> Activación por nuestros propias zonas horarias (Colombia / España / Nepal).
>>
>> HOT ha creado una tarea initial para mapear la zona costal muy vulnerable.
>> Por favor contribuir en http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1257
>>
>> Vamos a crear tareas adicionales en los dias y hoas siguiente, cuando
>> obtenemos más información sobre neceisdades por socios en gobierno y la
>> comunidad humanitariana. Presta atención en este espacio para anuncios
>> adicionales.
>>
>> Gracias,
>> Robert, Humberto y Rafael
>>
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Re: [HOT] DigitalGlobe imagery for Hurricane Patricia

[Robert Banick]

Hi Kevin,




Thanks for this, it’s fantastic. The existing Bing and Mapbox imagery in the 
area is pretty high-quality but it’s never bad to have additional options. I’ll 
add this to the tasks we’ve opened so far.




Quick question: do you have a bounding box for the overall extent of the 
imagery? I’m running off a poor connection here so it’s a little inconvenient 
to eyeball it myself.




Best,

Robert


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On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Kevin Bullock 
wrote:

> Dear HOT, a few months ago, we launched a Maps API to simplify access to our 
> imagery (in partnership with Mapbox). In response to Hurricane Patricia, we 
> are opening access to pre-event Mexico imagery. We have built 50cm 
> countrywide mosaics for the world, and we are delighted to provide imagery 
> over the impact area of Mexico in hopes of improving OpenStreetMap and aiding 
> in Humanitarian efforts. This data is licensed for OpenStreetMap tracing and 
> usage. Let's rally for Mexico!!
> To use this imagery for tracing within OpenStreetMap, you can load 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=15/20.6075/-105.2316 and then add the 
> digitalglobe.vivid-latam-caribbean map ID as a custom background. (or add to 
> an existing HOT task)
> Please use this URL: 
> https://api.mapbox.com/v4/digitalglobe.vivid-latam-caribbean/{z}/{x}/{y}.png?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZGlnaXRhbGdsb2JlIiwiYSI6ImNpZzRqYng4OTJ1NWd0emt2b3Q2dWhwNXQifQ.8ohSIF9elaL6Z6Cx69Joxg
> As the storm moves out, our satellites are ready to collect post event 
> imagery, which we will also make available. Other resources and info from DG:
> http://www.digitalglobeblog.com/2015/10/23/hurricane-patricia-response-support/
> Best,
> Kevin Bullock
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Re: [HOT] DigitalGlobe imagery for Hurricane Patricia

[Robert Banick]

Wow, excellent. We'll put it to good use!



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On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Roxroy Bollers <rkboll...@gmail.com>
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> Great stuff! Let's rally for Mexico
> Sent from my LG G3
> On 24 Oct 2015 00:59, "Kevin Bullock" <kbull...@digitalglobe.com> wrote:
>> BBOX = the Country of Mexico.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> Sent from my mobile
>>
>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Robert Banick <rban...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> Thanks for this, it’s fantastic. The existing Bing and Mapbox imagery in
>> the area is pretty high-quality but it’s never bad to have additional
>> options. I’ll add this to the tasks we’ve opened so far.
>>
>> Quick question: do you have a bounding box for the overall extent of the
>> imagery? I’m running off a poor connection here so it’s a little
>> inconvenient to eyeball it myself.
>>
>> Best,
>> Robert
>>
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>>
>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Kevin Bullock <kbull...@digitalglobe.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Dear HOT, a few months ago, we launched a Maps API to simplify access to
>>> our imagery (in partnership with Mapbox). In response to Hurricane
>>> Patricia, we are opening access to pre-event Mexico imagery. We have built
>>> 50cm countrywide mosaics for the world, and we are delighted to provide
>>> imagery over the impact area of Mexico in hopes of improving OpenStreetMap
>>> and aiding in Humanitarian efforts. This data is licensed for OpenStreetMap
>>> tracing and usage. Let's rally for Mexico!!
>>>
>>> To use this imagery for tracing within OpenStreetMap, you can load
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=15/20.6075/-105.2316 and then add
>>> the digitalglobe.vivid-latam-caribbean map ID as a custom background.
>>> (or add to an existing HOT task)
>>>
>>> Please use this URL:
>>> https://api.mapbox.com/v4/digitalglobe.vivid-latam-caribbean/{z}/{x}/{y}.png?access_token
>>> <https://api.mapbox.com/v4/digitalglobe.vivid-latam-caribbean/%7Bz%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.png?access_token=INSERTYOURACCESSTOKENHERE>
>>> =
>>> pk.eyJ1IjoiZGlnaXRhbGdsb2JlIiwiYSI6ImNpZzRqYng4OTJ1NWd0emt2b3Q2dWhwNXQifQ.8ohSIF9elaL6Z6Cx69Joxg
>>> As the storm moves out, our satellites are ready to collect post event
>>> imagery, which we will also make available. Other resources and info from
>>> DG:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.digitalglobeblog.com/2015/10/23/hurricane-patricia-response-support/
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Kevin Bullock
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Re: [HOT] Cat-5 Hurricane Patricia heading to Mexican Pacific Coast

[Robert Banick]

Hi Rodolfo,




Importing said critcial infrastructure data could be a useful preparatory step. 
That way any subsequent HOT activations would build off of existing data 
instead of wasting time recreating it. 




In particular, securing clear permission to import missing critical 
infrastructure data according to OSM’s ODBL license would be helpful. A lot of 
imports stall because of a lack of clear licensing permissions; rarely are 
responsible bodies able to process these requests in the midst of disasters, 
when the approving supervisors are incredibly busy with response tasks.




Best,

Robert


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wrote:

> Hi all,
> Greetings from Mexico
> As some of you might already know, a Category-5 Hurricane has formed in the
> Pacific Coast and it's heading to the western mexican coast. Official
> sources estimate that it will hit the coast by tomorrow (friday) afternoon
> (GMT-0500).
> Let's hope this doesn't escalate.
> How should the OSM community in Mexico prepare for this? As of now, we are
> collecting official data sources of critical infrastructure, some of it not
> present in OSM yet.
> Any recommendations before this event happens?
> Is there something we could prepare beforehand a possible humanitarian
> activation?
> Best,
> *References*
> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_ep5.shtml?5-daynl#contents
> http://www.google.org/publicalerts/alert?aid=f416f754eb3bdc2=pa=es=419
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Patricia
> *Image*:
> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/EP20/refresh/EP2015W5_NL_sm2+gif/053225W5_NL_sm.gif___
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Re: [HOT] Validation

[Robert Banick]

I really like both proposed wording changes - they send the right message to 
new contributors. My only concern is that submit for review implies that 
there *will* be review, which we can't always guarantee. 


The number of regular validators has gone way up in the last few years and 
that's been huge for HOT. But we still can't validate every tile. I worry that 
newcomers won't understand this and will get frustrated if their tile doesn't 
get reviewed. I'm sure some people really look forward to that green square 
saying they did it well.




Is there some way we can verbally message this in the TM? Maybe a popup modal 
the first time someone submits for review explaining these system?


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 As I’m going through the comments again (here and on my diary post) I’m 
 starting to realise how important it is to give feedback to newcomers. 
 Without it, few people will ever feel confident about their contributions.
 In many cases it probably doesn’t even need to be feedback from an expert — 
 it could be a comment from someone with similar experience levels. A second 
 pair of eyes.
 An important part of this is being able to ask someone for a second opinion. 
 At a mapathon that’s easy, but where do remote mappers go?
 m.
 On 24 Aug 2015, at 19:00, David Toy d...@vidtoy.co.uk wrote:
 
 Hi Jarmo. Welcome!
 
 My introduction/onboarding to HOT was almost identical to Jarmo's - and I 
 can relate very clearly to all the points he has raised. I suspect that 
 there are a few more lurkers on this list who will be similar.
 
 Pierre G's document suggests renaming the 'mark as done' button to 'submit 
 for review'.
 
 A simplification of terms / altered workflow would have helped me initially. 
 Taking the example of the done button, 'submit for review' implies that:
 - a) it's ok to make a mistake getting started - someone will catch it, and
 - b) I should expect feedback
 
 This helps with Jarmo's first and second scenarios, but also softens the 
 blow when (your first) task is coldly invalidated with only four words of 
 explanation. (Validators: that's not a criticism - I understand the time 
 pressure.)
 
 Also, not all users will read the docs - while training resources are 
 useful, these little nudges of understanding help all users - even the new 
 ones who enthusiastically started but didn't read the instructions.
 
 David
 
 On 24 August 2015 at 17:18, Jarmo Kivekäs jarmo.kive...@guttula.com wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I've been lurking on the mailing list for a while, but I'm still fairly
 new to HOT. I though I'd pitch in.
 
 I definitely recognized myself from Martin's write up as belonging to
 the set of contributors who commit changes but don't mark tiles as done.
 Below are some reasons why I've not marked tiles as complete in the past.
 
 1. I think part of the reason is that I started out mapping on my own (I
 haven't found a local community, nor was I introduced to mapping on a
 mapathon). Therefore I haven't been able to just quickly ask someone
 advice about something I'm unsure about. In these cases I've usually
 left a comment in the tasking manager about whatever I was unsure about,
 mapped the rest, but not marked the tile as done.
 
 Not marking the tile done is me being conservative, I guess. As a new
 mapper it is currently difficult to get feedback on the quality of your
 mapping, you pretty much needs to actively seek it out. Getting
 notifications when there are new comments on tiles you've worked on
 would be nice.
 
 2. When parts of a region are already mapped (probably form before the
 activation was created) but the tiles that are already mapped are not
 marked as done. I'm reluctant to mark a grid as done without making any
 changes to it, even if it seemingly fills all the criterion for the
 task. Especially when the grid has been locked my multiple users in the
 past. They didn't think it was as done, I'm probably missing
 something. I realize that this thinking only propagates the problem,
 since I'll just be one more user on the list.
 
 3. Grids can be pretty large. Sometimes you just don't manage to map it
 completely in a short sitting. I know grids can be split, but...
 
 4. Sometimes I'll for example only be mapping roads. Doing this will
 result in many tiles being checked out and changesets are generated, but
 no tiles are actually being finished.
 
 
 -- Jarmo
 
 
 On 24.08.2015 16:37, Martin Dittus wrote:
 
  On 24 Aug 2015, at 11:22, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I'd also like to see a third option on the tasking manger I've done some 
  work but not completed the tile could someone review it please.  I'd 
  rather catch errors early and some new mappers may not feel confident 
  enough to mark a tile complete.
 
  Considering better workflows for “incomplete” submissions is well 
  worthwhile. This week I found that about half of all HOT contributors 
  never mark their 

Re: [HOT] Locations of Artisinal Mining Sites in the DRC?

[Robert Banick]

Hi Ray,




I don’t work on conflict sites or mining certification, so take what I’m about 
to say with a grain of salt. I do however work in international aid so I have 
some perspective on how these projects work in general.




The 140 number is probably compiled by specialized reporting staff whose job it 
is to extract and verify these numbers from specialized program management 
staff. Note that the latter will be prioritizing making the project work while 
the former will prioritize making the numbers correct and verifiable. Which 
means that the list exists but it’s probably buried on the project manager’s 
hard drive somewhere in the DRC or with luck at headquarters and could only be 
dug up with difficulty.




That’s the (over-?)simplified version of How Things Tend To Work. It could be 
different on this project or in the mining certification sector.




If the process sounds not at all ideal, trust me, many many people are away of 
this and trying to do better. Aid reporting is a really tricky compromise 
between not holding back program staff from doing good work with reporting red 
tape and getting the donating public information they deserve. In my experience 
very few agencies find a balance that everyone’s happy with. If that sounds 
like so many excuses, keep in mind that many developed world governments have 
only recently started to publicly release similar information for taxpayer 
funded projects despite tax revenues that go into the hundreds of billions or 
even trillions.




I hope this clarifies things for you. Coming from the world of open-everything 
I couldn’t agree more that it would be great to have this information somewhere 
easily accessible.




Cheers,

Robert


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On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Ray Kiddy r...@ganymede.org wrote:

 I was reading a report on conflict minerals.
 http://www.gao.gov/assets/680/672051.pdf
 It pointed to an USAID document about mining in the Great Lakes region
 of Africa.
 https://www.usaid.gov/democratic-republic-congo/fact-sheets/usaiddrc-fact-sheet-responsible-minerals-trade
 This contained the following statement about mining sites in the DRC:
 SELECT 2014 ACCOMPLISHMENTS
 140 artisanal mine sites have been validated as free
 from child labor and illegal taxation.
 Whenever I see statements like this, I always wonder about them. For
 example, where are these 140 sites? How are these sites identified? It
 sounds as though they went through a list of the sites, or that such a
 list of sites exists. And it sounds as though they marked the sites
 yes or no. Where is that list? If that list did not exist before,
 they would at least have to have a list of the 140 sites now. They
 certainly do not seem to be publishing that or any other list. They are
 just waving the number 140 around.
 So, does anyone have any idea how one would find the locations of any
 of these sites, the compliant or non-compliant sites?
 I submitted the question to the USAID web site, but I think the site
 swallowed the question. I entered the question and hit the submit
 button and it gave me the blank form again. Which seems wrong. And I
 have not heard from them.
 So, any ideas or suggestions?
 thanx - ray
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Re: [HOT] Fwd: Resultado Convocatoria de Proyectos Día Mundial Humanitario

[Robert Banick]

Fantastic news! Congratulations Humberto and everyone else!

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 Congratulations Humberto!
 This is really cool!
 Cheers,
 Blake
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 Sent from the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap (HOT) mailing list archive at 
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Re: [HOT] OSM Feature Classification Chart

[Robert Banick]

Hi Justin,

That's a big task!

A good place to start is the OSM Map Features wiki:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features

For Africa in particular, HOT has developed a Road Classification Tagging
Scheme. Suggestions welcome:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa

For more detailed requests I suggest using Taginfo:
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/

Hope this helps,
Robert

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Justin Temwani Ng'ambi 
justinngambi...@gmail.com wrote:

 OSM is just being unfolded in Malawi. Now for Uniformity sake as far
 as Data Validation is concerned, may you please kindly assist me Chart
 which shows the recommended Feature characterization/descriptions for
 OSM.

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Re: [HOT] paths, tracks and unclassified in West Africa

[Robert Banick]

That makes sense. Would you suggest putting road classification into the
validation stage then? Or have a classification stage in between?

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 9:03 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote:

 The suggestion is not that Primary / secondary / tertiary should not be
 mapped, often when the HOT mappers start the major highways are tagged
 Primary / secondary / tertiary the suggestion is to simplify guidance to
 new or inexperienced mappers.  76% of HOT Nepal mappers mapped for an hour
 or two and that was it.

 I don't think we can afford to give them four hours training in how to
 classify a road, there would be no time left for mapping.

 For these sort of highways then map something and let someone else upgrade
 the tag to Primary / secondary / tertiary is my suggestion.

 Cheerio John

 On 16 July 2015 at 08:55, Robert Banick rban...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey all,

 Speaking as a humanitarian GISer who's used HOT road layers quite a bit
 in a few crises, the road classifications really help. Primary / secondary
 / tertiary are useful, albeit vey incomplete, measures of the importance of
 roads that we can use to eyeball transit times etc. I would be strongly
 against ignoring those classification tags. I do agree we need more
 consistency in how they're applied however.

 Perhaps we can have general regional guidelines and then someone gets
 charged with developing a country-specific taxonomy for any major
 activations?

 Best,
 Robert

 On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 8:44 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Given that HOT mappers often do not have a PhD in African road
 classification and it appears to be subjective perhaps we can come up with
 a useful simplified interpretation or guidelines for inexperienced mappers?

 My thoughts would be to suggest that mappers in general ignore primary,
 secondary, tertiary, classifications, if the road is mapped then a local or
 classification specialist can tag with one of these if required.

 Cheerio John

 On 16 July 2015 at 00:23, Thomas Gertin tger...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am adding to the discussion of highway tagging in West Africa. All of
 the projects that mapped highways in West Africa that I have seen or been a
 part of followed the guidance of the Highway Tag Africa wiki page (
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa).

 This past Spring I worked with some colleagues to create this tracing
 guide (http://hotosm.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/liberia.html) for
 mapping River Cress and Grand Gedeh Counties in West Africa. The tracing
 guide was based on our interpretation of the Highway Tag Africa wiki page.
 This tracing guide is quite good, and mappers appreciated the pictures and
 GIFs that show examples.

 When building the tracing guide I came to a few conclusions. When
 reading the Highway Tag Africa wiki page I felt it have been wrong for me
 to alter the instructions. It would have resulted in inconsistent tagging
 in the region. I trust that a good amount of research and discussion has
 taken place to get it to the point it is now.

 - The guidance in the wiki could have been clearer. Although I notice
 that is has improved since even a few months ago, there are now some
 example pictures in there.

 - It is difficult to teach someone how to classify highways. There are
 eight types and often it is not clear when deciding between primary,
 secondary, tertiary, and unclassified highways because the only difference
 between them is the subjective size of the urban areas that are connected
 by them.

 - The unclassified road type was unintuitive the first time I read the
 Highway Tag Africa wiki page. To me unclassified means something that has
 no classification. Yet in the Highway Tag Africa wiki page it clearly has a
 classification. I think the term ‘unclassified’ means something else in
 other places though.

 I think having pre-set tags available as a plugins to iD editor should
 be a HOT goal, if it isn’t already. I don’t think we need there to be a
 universal tagging set. People who set-up projects on the Tasking manager
 could define the tags that fit best for the project. Although I think it
 would be useful to further standardize some tags across many geographical
 areas; it is important to maintain the flexibility for the geographical
 areas that need unique tags.

 Thanks,
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Re: [HOT] paths, tracks and unclassified in West Africa

[Robert Banick]

Hey all,

Speaking as a humanitarian GISer who's used HOT road layers quite a bit in
a few crises, the road classifications really help. Primary / secondary /
tertiary are useful, albeit vey incomplete, measures of the importance of
roads that we can use to eyeball transit times etc. I would be strongly
against ignoring those classification tags. I do agree we need more
consistency in how they're applied however.

Perhaps we can have general regional guidelines and then someone gets
charged with developing a country-specific taxonomy for any major
activations?

Best,
Robert

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 8:44 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Given that HOT mappers often do not have a PhD in African road
 classification and it appears to be subjective perhaps we can come up with
 a useful simplified interpretation or guidelines for inexperienced mappers?

 My thoughts would be to suggest that mappers in general ignore primary,
 secondary, tertiary, classifications, if the road is mapped then a local or
 classification specialist can tag with one of these if required.

 Cheerio John

 On 16 July 2015 at 00:23, Thomas Gertin tger...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am adding to the discussion of highway tagging in West Africa. All of
 the projects that mapped highways in West Africa that I have seen or been a
 part of followed the guidance of the Highway Tag Africa wiki page (
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa).

 This past Spring I worked with some colleagues to create this tracing
 guide (http://hotosm.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/liberia.html) for
 mapping River Cress and Grand Gedeh Counties in West Africa. The tracing
 guide was based on our interpretation of the Highway Tag Africa wiki page.
 This tracing guide is quite good, and mappers appreciated the pictures and
 GIFs that show examples.

 When building the tracing guide I came to a few conclusions. When reading
 the Highway Tag Africa wiki page I felt it have been wrong for me to alter
 the instructions. It would have resulted in inconsistent tagging in the
 region. I trust that a good amount of research and discussion has taken
 place to get it to the point it is now.

 - The guidance in the wiki could have been clearer. Although I notice
 that is has improved since even a few months ago, there are now some
 example pictures in there.

 - It is difficult to teach someone how to classify highways. There are
 eight types and often it is not clear when deciding between primary,
 secondary, tertiary, and unclassified highways because the only difference
 between them is the subjective size of the urban areas that are connected
 by them.

 - The unclassified road type was unintuitive the first time I read the
 Highway Tag Africa wiki page. To me unclassified means something that has
 no classification. Yet in the Highway Tag Africa wiki page it clearly has a
 classification. I think the term ‘unclassified’ means something else in
 other places though.

 I think having pre-set tags available as a plugins to iD editor should be
 a HOT goal, if it isn’t already. I don’t think we need there to be a
 universal tagging set. People who set-up projects on the Tasking manager
 could define the tags that fit best for the project. Although I think it
 would be useful to further standardize some tags across many geographical
 areas; it is important to maintain the flexibility for the geographical
 areas that need unique tags.

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Re: [HOT] URGENT: recent OBF needed tomorrow

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I’m on it Jorieke. Do you have a Dropbox or other means of sharing large files? 
And internet strong enough to receive them?


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On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Jorieke Vyncke jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello,
 Is there somebody who can help me out quite fast?
 Tomorrow we are doing a small mapping exercise with some people of the
 ministry of rural development in Mali.
 We are going to map in Tienfala (region Koulikoro) and I kind of
 validated the base map of the village after other remote mappers did
 the base map already. And now of course I would love to see this data
 on my OsmAnd.
 So is there somebody around who can create an OBF file (?) for osmand
 for me with the most recent data of Tienfala? We are leaving tomorrow
 around 8am UTC.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=12.7321mlon=-7.7543#map=13/12.7321/-7.7543
 Thanks a lot!!!
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Re: [HOT] Fwd: Re: Problems saving in ID

[Robert Banick]

Hi Charlotte,




The intention of putting issue reporting there is to create information that’s 
*actionable* for the (primarily Mapbox) folks who maintain and develop iD. That 
way problems are automatically linked to solutions. As you can tell, I gently 
disagree with your assessment of github’s utility. I’m not a developer but I 
find it really useful for communicating to developers, who, after all, are the 
ones to fix things. 





That being said, could you maybe explain how Github is poor for reporting 
issues with iD? If you can maybe explain your frustrations further we can 
understand how to either better explain Github to new users *or* create new 
processes that better match your needs as a user. I’m not opposed to the latter 
but I would hope to give Github a shot instead of inventing yet another process.




Cheers,

Robert




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 Suzan,
  You're not alone. Github was designed for people writing 
 software. It is an absolutely terrible way to report issues with iD 
 or anything else.
  Why isn't there a page on the OSM web site with a simple 
 form for reporting these issues?
 Charlotte
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Nick and all,

Would someone be so kind as to add the information way below
to the issues at the link Nick sent to me? I had a dickens of a
time trying to provide the feedback at that link, and I thought I
was pretty good with stuff like that.

Suzan

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https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues Should be the place to 
report problems. Nick (OSM=Tallguy) Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team 
Member On 21 May 2015 09:25, Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com 
wrote: For some time I've been having problems saving when using ID. 
I don't know who to report this to. Can someone direct me the person 
or people who can fix the ID editor? Or send the following to them? 
Suzan Here are the issues: 1. After Saving edits, unlocking the 
Task, and going to another Task, a dialog box appears with two icons 
that indicates past edits have not saved, and asks if I want to 
restore the edits and save them. When saved, I believe these over 
write the last Task, doubling the images. 2. Other times another 
dialog box appears: Errors occured while trying to save Bad 
Gateway. The proxy server received an invalid response from an 
upstream server. Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at 
www.openstreetmap.org Port 80  (html tags have been removed for 
brevity.) When Saving after getting this kind of dialog box, the 
Save button has to be pressed several times. There can be long 
delays. Eventually the edits Save and I get the dialog that shows 
they are being saved and the blue images in the left column appear. 
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Re: [HOT] Missing Maps Training Video Suggestions

[Robert Banick]

Hi All,




Excellent points and criticisms all around. The amount of feedback from new 
contributors during this response has been extremely welcome but also a bit 
humbling at times. We’ve got so much to do.




A few quick responses to key points.




1. OSM is 10 years old but for much of that time was a “by nerds, for nerds” 
project. Only in the past few years have the tools for conventional GIS usage 
really come into their own.




2. HOT itself has been around for a long time, but only took off 5 years ago 
after the earthquake in Haiti. Since then it’s been a slow but steady journey 
towards professionalism. We’ve spent a lot of our energy working with local 
communities and building up critical technical infrastructure like the Tasking 
Manager — which trust me, did not appear out of nowhere. Clearly it’s time to 
invest in training materials.




3. HOT’s contributions are used and makes a difference. I used to work for the 
Red Cross and we used OSM data from HOT *all the time*. In many cases it was 
the *only* data for disaster affected areas. Simply put, it was irreplaceable. 
And if sometimes it was not 100% accurate, that was OK. 90% accurate is better 
than 0% available.




4. You all bring up such good points and criticisms. Right now a lot of people 
are working themselves to death just responding, so please don’t take it 
personally if you don’t get immediate responses to your suggestions. Please 
stick around until we have time to follow up and work with you to make things 
better. It may take a month but it will be so valuable.




Cheers,

Robert





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On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 OSM and HOT are volunteer organizations. And we are force to adapt rapidly to 
 the reality of responses like for Nepal. People with experience to develop 
 such material either through a wiki page, github or other are welcomed.
 With the extent of this response, we organized various support groups to take 
 care of Imagery, Validation, Imports, Routing, etc. We also have a HOT 
 training group. People interested to contribute can write 
 to activation @ hotosm.org. We will follow your contact to the training group.
 regard  
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 Cc : HOT hot@openstreetmap.org 
  Envoyé le : Jeudi 7 mai 2015 11h06
  Objet : Re: [HOT] Missing Maps Training Video Suggestions

 A few thoughts on the training materials, from a 2-week OSM user and 
 long-time GIS user:
 I have not yet found the single, systematically organized portal for access 
 to all training materials  events, This would be great to have, and other 
 training references could point back to it. The closest I have found is the 
 HOT Training working group, current sources and 
 materials:http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Working_groups/Training#Current_Sources_.26_Materials
 But, for example, that page does not point to How to get started 
 contributing to a HOT 
 task:https://gist.github.com/meetar/b9929dfec129d1d7f5f2
 So yes, Suzan, I think organization and production of comprehensive training 
 material is a great idea - thank you. I think getting the top-down 
 organization right is key. It seems this would be guided by the HOT Training 
 working group (is there a general OSM training working group?).
 Existing training materials on how to use OSM and the editors is fairly 
 comprehensive, but somewhat scattered. Multiple sources overlap in the 
 material they cover. An OSM/HOT training portal would help identify gaps and 
 guide where new material (including new videos) is needed.
 Training on how to interpret features from imagery is minimal. This could 
 really be expanded, with examples of special cases, especially for 
 poor-quality imagery where interpretation is difficult. Interpretation issues 
 seem to dominate a lot of quality concerns and newbie questions. 
 I don't think it's reasonable to expect new mappers to be able to take quick 
 start training and jump into contributing, at least for those who have not 
 mapped before. For HOT response in particular, I think the expectation should 
 be that mappers should expect to invest at least a day of on-line training 
 before starting to contribute. Yes, that would turn away some mappers, but 
 with the benefit of fewer quality issues. Yes, you can learn to trace 
 buildings in far less time, but many mappers soon confront more complex tasks 
 and a better training foundation would serve them well. (My opinion on this 
 may evolve...)
 Cheers,Steve
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 Althio and all.
 I don't understand the shared document format, and don't find it an easy 
 place to express these views, nor do I understand where I could add to it in 
 a constructive way.  That's why I expressed my thoughts here, so that someone 
 who understands the shared document format could 

Re: [HOT] Tracing tagged buildings

[Robert Banick]

Hi Klaus,





First of all, thanks for providing such a measured response to a not very 
measured message. I’m sorry you got such a rude message in the first place and 
want to assure you that it doesn’t reflect HOT’s attitude, both stated by the 
organization and unstated within the community, towards errors by new 
contributors. Everyone has to start somewhere and errors are inevitable.





Secondly, I do have to agree with the point of the message. The fact is your 
iterative work process doesn’t fit with the contribution-validation process HOT 
has set up to make it easy for everyone to work together. There’s no graceful 
way in the technical tools or HOT’s workflow to reflect that buildings-as-nodes 
are a transitional step by you towards perfect data. Thus it creates the 
potential for others to waste time “correcting” what seems like a mistake.




I can understand how this system would work really well when you’re managing a 
task or area by yourself. But HOT tasks are done with others and the system is 
designed so that we build on one another’s work. Also consider that no 
responding agencies are looking for buildings as nodes and hence your 
transitional data adds no value until entered as an area.





Finally, a gentle reminder to experienced: if you encounter systematic errors 
from users, however seemingly basic or disastrous, please give them the benefit 
of the doubt with a nice message. Inviting new users to contribute guarantees 
mistakes, but it creates a lot more value than harm: we have to accept the 
mistakes as part of the process. If I was a new user and read the message above 
I guarantee I would be scared off mapping — and that means HOT just lost a 
potential longtime contributor.




Best,

Robert


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On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Klaus Hartl k...@gmx.de wrote:

 Hi HOT,
 with this message I’m not particularly answering the previous one rather than 
 intending to jump on that topic due to some misunderstandings I got notified 
 by concerned users via private message (which I’ll post here), on which a 
 little clarification is needed. If the following issues are clarified 
 elsewhere, I’d like to thank you for that notice in advance and excuse any 
 double posting.
 Some OSM mapper wrote to me:
 Hi I'd like to let you know that the Task #658 
 (http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1018#task/658) is a complete mess thanks to 
 you and a few other users. Why don't you read the instructions before 
 starting to work on the map? You've entered thousand of buildings as nodes, 
 when instruction states that buildings has to be entered as polygons and now 
 someone is going to waste precious time in order to correct your errors. I 
 hope this was your only mistake. I'm not going to waste any more time by 
 writing to you; please, read carefully the instructions BEFORE any edit.
 Have a nice one Regards
 I’d like to post my reasons to this list so that
 it can be validated by all and
 further misunderstandings can hopefully be avoided
 Hello […],
 Thank you for your friendly notice and for honoring OSM volunteer work.
 You're definitely right proposing to trace buildings as areas.
 Hence, I am fully aware that I created information what you might consider a 
 lack of quality.
 However, the reasons for registering buildings like I did are these:
 I was working on an HOT task (in case you don't know, please see [1]). 
 Buildings are not part of the main objective of this task, which is rather to 
 find flat spaces suitable for potential helicoper landings among others.
 Regarding my paradigm of contributing to OSM data more generally, I tend to 
 improve data quality in several iterations, this means to break up the task 
 into various pieces (which of course have to be consistent), if it isn't 
 justifiable to solve the task as an one-off (cf. 1.). The first iteration in 
 the given case would be to register buildings as quickly as possible. 
 Technically spoken, in JOSM, I copy one building node and then per instance 
 point the mouse cursor on the right spot while pasting. You're right when you 
 call this far from perfect, but it's something me or others can start from 
 later. And regarding the schema [2], attributing a single node looks fairly 
 valid to me. Tracing the building as an area would therefore be part of the 
 next iteration step since some exact adjustment is required per object, which 
 renders the effort many times higher.
 If you've got any remarks or further questions, please don't hesitate to 
 state them.
 Cheers and happy mapping
 Klaus / k127
 References:
 [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1026#task/114
 [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building
 Cheers
 Klaus / k127
 Am 04.05.2015 um 01:50 schrieb Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com:
 
 On Sunday, May 3, 2015, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi -
 
 2015-05-03 22:03 GMT+01:00 Phil Allford pallf...@gmail.com:
  1. Should I delete the single node tag for a house when I 

[HOT] BBC License Violation?

[Robert Banick]

Hi All,


I was reading the below linked article on the BBC today and came across the 
map. It looks like they’re using OSM-derived internally displaced person (IDP) 
camp data without attribution.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/20039682



Based on what I’m reading in the relevant coordination channels it appears that 
HOT / Kathmandu Living Labs are one of the main sources for IDP damage. This is 
confirmed by the obvious square shape of the southern camps shown. The shape 
appears to align with bounds of HOT task #1008. 
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1008


Likely this is an honest mistake from a BBC reporter who sourced the derived 
data from the Nepali government. Nonetheless it’s a violation and should be 
fixed.


Is there anyone with BBC contacts who could try to have this sorted? I’ve 
written them through the generic Contact button but personal contacts are 
always quicker.


Best,
Robert

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Re: [HOT] Nepal rural areas - tagging forests and farmland?

[Robert Banick]

Hi Falkmar,

If you look at the tasks up on the tasking manager they usually tell you
what to prioritize.

In general, woodlands and farmlands are very much nice to have at this
moment. We're prioritizing roads, residential areas, buildings and any
critical infrastructure we can see (bridges, schools, etc.). Rivers and
other transportation barriers are also of use.

Getting aid to areas affected is at the moment the biggest challenge for
areas outside Kathmandu. So understanding accessibility and where people
are is key.

See the various tasks at http://tasks.hotosm.org/ for task specific
instructions. If one is lacking or incomplete, please speak up here and one
of the activation leads can add the necessary detail.

Thanks for mapping!

Best,
Robert

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wrote:

 Hello Falkmar,

 My opinion is persona, not that of the community, but I agree. The best
 thing is concentrating your mapping effort on the things that you believe
 are most relevant.

 Good luck participating!

 Kind regards,

 Milo

 2015-04-30 9:16 GMT+02:00 falk...@gmx.net:

 Hi all,

 I'm completely new to this and just started mapping in Nepal. Now I
 noticed that some people extensively tag woodland and farmland in the rural
 areas of Nepal, while the majority does not. I've seen validated squares
 with and without these tags.
 Now my first guess is that since it's basically *all* wood- and farmland
 out there, these tags just clutter the map and should be omitted. But what
 is the official stance on this?

 Many thanks!

 -Falkmar

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Re: [HOT] NEPAL/Taginfo ( http://178.62.129.19/ temporary instance )

[Robert Banick]

Fantastic resource Imre. Any chance we can get a more human friendly URL? I 
suspect a lot of people will have trouble remembering that IP address or 
passing it along to others.

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 I have created a _temporary_  NEPAL  Taginfo instance
 [image: taginfo]
 *  Now at http://178.62.129.19/
 * *Taginfo instance showing tagging statistics only for NEPAL**. Updated :
 every 30min*.
 * Input Data : Geofabrik 30min extract.  ( http://labs.geofabrik.de/nepal/ )
 * Now it is running on DigitalOcean ( 4Gb RAM, 60Gb Disk, Amsterdam2,
 Ubuntu 14.04 )
 * Latest Taginfo source code :   https://github.com/joto/taginfo
( map and overpass-turbo link is working ;  and  min_count_tags = 1  )
 If somebody interested in Data Quality :
 * Keys with whitespace :
 http://178.62.129.19/reports/characters_in_keys#space
 * Keys with possibly problematic characters
   http://178.62.129.19/reports/characters_in_keys#problem
 * Similar keys:  http://178.62.129.19/reports/similar_keys
 Others:
 * source in Keys: http://178.62.129.19/search?q=source
 * hospital in Values: http://178.62.129.19/search?q=hospital#values
 * emergency similar : http://178.62.129.19/keys/emergency#similar
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Re: [HOT] Kathmandu IDP Camps TM1008 - Validation process

[Robert Banick]

Chad, we are asking for all IDP camps to be represented as ways / areas. We can 
reduce to points via the overpass api at a later date. Even if the areas are 
tiny that lets us know that it’s just a single tent, so it’s still useful 
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wrote:

 Thanks for taking a look. I was mostly checking on the difference between a
 closed way and an area for IDP camp representation; per Pierre it sounds
 like the difference is semantic.
 Keep up the great work, all!
 - B
 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:16 PM Chad Blevins cblev...@usaid.gov wrote:
 I'm seeing a few ways that aren't closed and don't encompass the entire
 open area, only tents.  There are also a bunch of single large tents, I
 assume these should be collected as points?

 Creating guidance now, should have something by tomorrow. Any input is
 appreciated.

 -Chad

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 wrote:

 I'm seeing a bunch of IDP campsites drawn as ways instead of areas (
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/340982833) - is there any chance that's
 not a simple mistake?

 -Bill



 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:02 PM Nama Budhathoki namabudhath...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 We are in touch with people from Rotary Club who are interested to
 ground truth IDPs in Kathmandu. I will see if they can help.

 Sent from my mobile phone.
 On 28 Apr 2015 04:48, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 Could experimented contributors go rapidly and validate tasks to assure
 the quality of this data before the info is sent out?
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1008

 regard

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Re: [HOT] Road classification system in Nepal

[Robert Banick]

Hi All,




Kathmandu Living Labs took the time to compile a really useful tagging guide 
specific to Nepal. 




There’s one specific tagging guide for roads here: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads




There’s a more general Nepal tagging guide here: 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmYd3Y40Dfk8dGk4TzgtVmE5RExMVGNncEEzb2JtSHcusp=drive_web#gid=0




I would strongly recommend following KLL’s guidelines wherever possible, they 
put a lot of thought into crafting a tagging scheme specific to Nepal’s context.




And for those who don’t know, a galli is an alley. Very useful word in 
Kathmandu :)




Best,

Robert


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 Arun
 I also saw a lot of inconsistencies. You can try to contact directly Nama 
 Budathoki on this list and from Kathmandu living lab in Kathandu.
 They have some difficulties and they might not be online. 
 If you cannot contact, I suggest that you start to revise.
 regard 
  
 Pierre 
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  Envoyé le : Lundi 27 avril 2015 5h49
  Objet : [HOT] Road classification system in Nepal

 There seems to be inconsistencies in how the roads are classified, with many 
 National Highways being marked as trunk, primary, secondary, tertiary and 
 even unclassified.
 Based on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads#Road_Classification 
 and my own experience with roads in India, the tagging should probably be 
 more like this:
 Trunk National Highway (ref=H##): trunkFeeder Roads (ref=F##): 
 primaryDistrict Roads (ref=D##): secondary
 used with appropriate surface=* tag
 Can someone from the ground make any recommendations based on practical use? 
 There does not seem to be any comprehensive documentation of how the existing 
 tagging scheme came about and it looks quite messy.
 The forum has some discussion about this with no clear consensus: 
 http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=30221
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Re: [HOT] 7.9 earthquake in Nepal

[Robert Banick]

I’m hearing from old Red Cross friends that many places outside Kathmandu are 
also affected. I think we should worry about the city of Pokhara too, it’s a 
major city basically equidistant from the earthquake.


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wrote:

 Morning, there is a strong OSM contingent in Nepal including board member
 Nama.
 Thanks for the updates, Maning and JCG
 Heather
 On Apr 25, 2015 10:45 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Just got this info from tv. News are still sketchy but kathmandu seems to
 be heavily affected.
 cheers,
 Maning Sambale (mobile)
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Re: [HOT] 7.9 earthquake in Nepal

[Robert Banick]

Helicopter landing sites would be nice if we could reliably collect them. But 
this is NOT something I would want to get wrong (imagine showing up in the 
helicopter to a site and it’s unsuitable).


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On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 Thanks Pete.
 Looking at the Ebola activation, people trace every path, sometimes a few 
 hundred meters, going in all directions. This adds noise to the map. We could 
 have this same problem in Nepal rural areas.  Mountains area are also 
 particular. 
 In many areas, only paths connect the villages. But these are the main ways 
 to circulate. 
 All airfields are also important to report. They are probably already there. 
 But it his important to revise.
 regard 
  
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  Objet : Re: [HOT] 7.9 earthquake in Nepal

 Pierre, I have added some tagging guides from the Nepal roads wiki page to 
 the task instructions. Mostly applies to urban settings, but hopefully it 
 helps (especially if new mappers join the task)...
 Pete
 On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 Maning please contact and ask him to contact me individually. We need infos 
 to coordinate.
 First task is ready.http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/994
 I give instructions to avoid to trace every paths in the fields. This make 
 more difficult to read maps. Other activators, please do not hesitate to edit 
 and complete the job instructions.
 regard
  
 Pierre 
   De : maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
  À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr 
 Cc : HOT hot@openstreetmap.org; Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.uk 
  Envoyé le : Samedi 25 avril 2015 8h59
  Objet : Re: [HOT] 7.9 earthquake in Nepal

 From Facebook, I saw one member of kathmandu labs saying they are ok. 
 cheers,Maning Sambale (mobile)On Apr 25, 2015 8:20 PM, Pierre Béland 
 pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 Not succeeded yet to contact Katmandu lab folks.
 We plan to concentrate on roads. No priority established yet as the areas to 
 cover. I will prepare first a task for the area north of Kathmandu in the 
 mountains. 
  
  
 Pierre 
   De : Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.uk
  À : HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) hot@openstreetmap.org 
  Envoyé le : Samedi 25 avril 2015 8h00
  Objet : Re: [HOT] 7.9 earthquake in Nepal

 Wiki page for this earthquake: 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake Let's hope our 
 friends a the Kathmandu Living Labs are all safe today.
 Because the community is strong in Nepal (and particularly Kathmandu), the 
 map is already pretty good. Let's hope aid agencies will found out about our 
 maps and find them useful.
 We should be wary of unleashing task manager jobs on the area. We must 
 particularly try to avoid the mess created by people getting carried away 
 with landuse but in silly square shapes (don't do this!)
 But there's some work to do. I see a few settlements and their connecting 
 roads in the river valleys to the northwest of Kathmandu, where we could 
 improve the map remotely a bit.
 See the above wiki page where we can post more coordination info
 Harry

From: Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com
  To: Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr 
 Cc: HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) hot@openstreetmap.org 
  Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2015, 12:09
  Subject: Re: [HOT] 7.9 earthquake in Nepal

 Have uploaded some high resolution osm extracts of downtown Kathmandu and 
 Patan to wiki commons that could come in handy for immediate print use:
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kathmandu_Downtown_Streetmap_OSM.png
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Patan_Downtown_Streetmap_OSM.png
 On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 We started an international skype communication and gather infos.
   
 Pierre 
   De : Robert Banick rban...@gmail.com
  À : Heather Leson heatherle...@gmail.com 
 Cc : HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) hot@openstreetmap.org 
  Envoyé le : Samedi 25 avril 2015 5h53
  Objet : Re: [HOT] 7.9 earthquake in Nepal

 I’m hearing from old Red Cross friends that many places outside Kathmandu are 
 also affected. I think we should worry about the city of Pokhara too, it’s a 
 major city basically equidistant from the earthquake.
 —
 Sent from Mailbox
 On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Heather Leson heatherle...@gmail.com wrote:
 Morning, there is a strong OSM contingent in Nepal including board member 
 Nama. Thanks for the updates, Maning and JCGHeatherOn Apr 25, 2015 10:45 AM, 
 maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just got this info from tv. News are still sketchy but kathmandu seems to be 
 heavily affected.cheers,Maning Sambale (mobile)
 ___
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Re: [HOT] 7.9 earthquake in Nepal

[Robert Banick]

Saw the same and already asked the same Pierre. I haven't seen a response or 
activity from him so he may be busy or may have lost battery. Will follow up as 
best I can.



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On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 Maning please contact and ask him to contact me individually. We need infos 
 to coordinate.
 First task is ready.http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/994
 I give instructions to avoid to trace every paths in the fields. This make 
 more difficult to read maps. Other activators, please do not hesitate to edit 
 and complete the job instructions.
 regard
  
 Pierre 
   De : maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
  À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr 
 Cc : HOT hot@openstreetmap.org; Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.uk 
  Envoyé le : Samedi 25 avril 2015 8h59
  Objet : Re: [HOT] 7.9 earthquake in Nepal

 From Facebook, I saw one member of kathmandu labs saying they are ok. 
 cheers,Maning Sambale (mobile)On Apr 25, 2015 8:20 PM, Pierre Béland 
 pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 Not succeeded yet to contact Katmandu lab folks.
 We plan to concentrate on roads. No priority established yet as the areas to 
 cover. I will prepare first a task for the area north of Kathmandu in the 
 mountains. 
  
  
 Pierre 
   De : Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.uk
  À : HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) hot@openstreetmap.org 
  Envoyé le : Samedi 25 avril 2015 8h00
  Objet : Re: [HOT] 7.9 earthquake in Nepal

 Wiki page for this earthquake: 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake Let's hope our 
 friends a the Kathmandu Living Labs are all safe today.
 Because the community is strong in Nepal (and particularly Kathmandu), the 
 map is already pretty good. Let's hope aid agencies will found out about our 
 maps and find them useful.
 We should be wary of unleashing task manager jobs on the area. We must 
 particularly try to avoid the mess created by people getting carried away 
 with landuse but in silly square shapes (don't do this!)
 But there's some work to do. I see a few settlements and their connecting 
 roads in the river valleys to the northwest of Kathmandu, where we could 
 improve the map remotely a bit.
 See the above wiki page where we can post more coordination info
 Harry

From: Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com
  To: Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr 
 Cc: HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) hot@openstreetmap.org 
  Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2015, 12:09
  Subject: Re: [HOT] 7.9 earthquake in Nepal

 Have uploaded some high resolution osm extracts of downtown Kathmandu and 
 Patan to wiki commons that could come in handy for immediate print use:
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kathmandu_Downtown_Streetmap_OSM.png
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Patan_Downtown_Streetmap_OSM.png
 On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 We started an international skype communication and gather infos.
   
 Pierre 
   De : Robert Banick rban...@gmail.com
  À : Heather Leson heatherle...@gmail.com 
 Cc : HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) hot@openstreetmap.org 
  Envoyé le : Samedi 25 avril 2015 5h53
  Objet : Re: [HOT] 7.9 earthquake in Nepal

 I’m hearing from old Red Cross friends that many places outside Kathmandu are 
 also affected. I think we should worry about the city of Pokhara too, it’s a 
 major city basically equidistant from the earthquake.
 —
 Sent from Mailbox
 On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Heather Leson heatherle...@gmail.com wrote:
 Morning, there is a strong OSM contingent in Nepal including board member 
 Nama. Thanks for the updates, Maning and JCGHeatherOn Apr 25, 2015 10:45 AM, 
 maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just got this info from tv. News are still sketchy but kathmandu seems to be 
 heavily affected.cheers,Maning Sambale (mobile)
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[HOT] Volunteers needed: Ebola response task

[Robert Banick]

Hi All,

I could use some support from the HOT community for a small data management 
task for the ebola response. It requires some knowledge of overpass, an eye for 
detail and a stomach for tedium. I basically need assistance matching a list of 
locations to Lat/Longs derived from OSM place names. This will require some 
effort to double-check results and ensure duplicate place names or spellings 
aren't messing up the results

I've not been given permission to share the data publicly so I have to be a bit 
vague on this channel. Follow up with me directly if you're interested and I 
can explain more.

Best,
Robert

Robert Banick
GIS Expert
Ebola Needs Assessment Project (ENAP)

Freetown, Sierra Leone

Phone: +232-7925-6781
Email: r...@acaps.orgmailto:r...@acaps.org
Skype: robert.banick
www.acaps.orghttp://www.acaps.org/

Download ACAPS Mobile App. GEO for Android 
herehttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.acaps.acaps and for iOS 
herehttps://itunes.apple.com/us/app/global-emergency-overview/id567382309?mt=8


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Re: [HOT] What I want from HOT (was: Re: Let's make the most of this)

[Robert Banick]

Hi all,




Sorry, my comment on diversity got cut off…what I meant to say is this:




P.S. Also please goodness let’s working on being more diverse. We’re an 
international organization and we need a more international, gender-balanced 
membership. This isn’t something that happens overnight and isn’t a problem 
unique to HOT. But it is a fact that our volunteer and membership are 
predominantly male and Western. It’s something to keep in mind as we grow and 
try to attract new contributors and members. I would welcome input from any of 
our contributors who’ve worked on such issues with other organizations 



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On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Robert Banick rban...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 In addition to the comments from Althio, Maning and others (which are 
 excellent), I have a few things I’d like to see from HOT at this moment of 
 transition:
 1. Greater clarity on what support to local groups look like. I think 
 everyone agrees that fostering local (HOT) OSM chapters around the world is a 
 laudable goal. I’ve seen less details about what that means. 
 Some of you are experts at building communities, some of you are active 
 members of your local OSM communities and some of you are interested in 
 getting started helping out. I put myself in the latter group, and speaking 
 from that position, I would like to know exactly what kind of support local 
 groups need and how exactly we think we can make that support happen. Lists! 
 Explanations! Budgets! Basics we can build off of. I would hope that in a 
 year’s time we could be on our way towards having a local community “toolkit” 
 and some projects / support underway.
 2. Recognition from the general membership that we can do multiple things at 
 the same time. And that if a volunteer / member / board member / executive 
 director doesn’t talk about one topic that much it may just reflect lesser 
 familiarity, not a lack of approval. We all have our specialties that we 
 focus on.
 I’m worried by how often our discussions imply that it’s My Priority vs. Your 
 Priority. In English we call this “zero sum” thinking — the idea that one 
 side winning means the other side losing. For HOT this is nonsense. We can 
 all win. We will all win.
 If it feels like some parts of our mission are getting neglected then help us 
 figure out what the bottlenecks are and how we can address them. If there’s 
 not enough resources to address your priority, help us think how we can fix 
 that.
 3. Honest discussion about direct democracy. I know some of our members feel 
 really strongly (here’s looking at you Severin) that we should operate on a 
 more direct democracy model for our operations. I disagree but am open to 
 being persuaded otherwise. I want to know exactly how that’s supposed to 
 work, particularly when attendance at events is a problem.
 4. Clear responsibilities for the membership. Right now membership is more of 
 a recognition than a responsibility. I think we expect more from members but 
 do too little to define what that more is. Until we do so I don’t think we’re 
 prepared to really step beyond the traditional NGO mold — which we should aim 
 to do.
 6. Congratulate ourselves a little. Those who follow the main OSM listservs 
 know that the broader OSM community has had a lot of turmoil in the past 
 year. Big questions were posed about the effectiveness of the OSM Foundation 
 and OSM’s direction. We should be proud that during those (intense) 
 discussions HOT was repeatedly cited as a model of a functional international 
 OSM group that gets things done and done well. We’re on to something really 
 good here. Thanks to all of you for making that happen.
 Finally I want to strongly second the rotating board idea from Althio. That 
 will introduce more constant discussion of HOT’s direction and prevent months 
 of unproductive time being spent preparing for / adjusting from annual 
 elections.
 Best,
 Robert
 P.S. Also please goodness let’s working on being more diverse. We’re an 
 international organization and we need a more international, gender-balanced 
 membership. This isn’t something that happens overnight but we need t
 —
 Sent from Mailbox
 On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:19 PM, althio althio.fo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear everyone,

 Let me kickstart this.  First, no, I’m not running for the board, but
 here’s what I want HOT to aspire for in the future.
 Good ones, Maning! Very inspiring.
 Here is my brain dump of ideas, wishes, concerns and requests. No
 priorities either. Not a complete assessment, just my point of view.
 What I want from the Board:
 A global overview of the running organisation.
 A strategic view of the key positions and organisation bottlenecks.
 A clear roadmap and to-do list of most-needed actions, most-wanted
 features, most-blocking blockers. Directions. Priorities. Guidance.
 Decision to allocate efforts and money where it helps the most. With
 open decisions, always motivated; open

Re: [HOT] What I want from HOT (was: Re: Let's make the most of this)

[Robert Banick]

Hi all,




In addition to the comments from Althio, Maning and others (which are 
excellent), I have a few things I’d like to see from HOT at this moment of 
transition:





1. Greater clarity on what support to local groups look like. I think everyone 
agrees that fostering local (HOT) OSM chapters around the world is a laudable 
goal. I’ve seen less details about what that means. 




Some of you are experts at building communities, some of you are active members 
of your local OSM communities and some of you are interested in getting started 
helping out. I put myself in the latter group, and speaking from that position, 
I would like to know exactly what kind of support local groups need and how 
exactly we think we can make that support happen. Lists! Explanations! Budgets! 
Basics we can build off of. I would hope that in a year’s time we could be on 
our way towards having a local community “toolkit” and some projects / support 
underway.





2. Recognition from the general membership that we can do multiple things at 
the same time. And that if a volunteer / member / board member / executive 
director doesn’t talk about one topic that much it may just reflect lesser 
familiarity, not a lack of approval. We all have our specialties that we focus 
on.




I’m worried by how often our discussions imply that it’s My Priority vs. Your 
Priority. In English we call this “zero sum” thinking — the idea that one side 
winning means the other side losing. For HOT this is nonsense. We can all win. 
We will all win.




If it feels like some parts of our mission are getting neglected then help us 
figure out what the bottlenecks are and how we can address them. If there’s not 
enough resources to address your priority, help us think how we can fix that.





3. Honest discussion about direct democracy. I know some of our members feel 
really strongly (here’s looking at you Severin) that we should operate on a 
more direct democracy model for our operations. I disagree but am open to being 
persuaded otherwise. I want to know exactly how that’s supposed to work, 
particularly when attendance at events is a problem.





4. Clear responsibilities for the membership. Right now membership is more of a 
recognition than a responsibility. I think we expect more from members but do 
too little to define what that more is. Until we do so I don’t think we’re 
prepared to really step beyond the traditional NGO mold — which we should aim 
to do.





6. Congratulate ourselves a little. Those who follow the main OSM listservs 
know that the broader OSM community has had a lot of turmoil in the past year. 
Big questions were posed about the effectiveness of the OSM Foundation and 
OSM’s direction. We should be proud that during those (intense) discussions HOT 
was repeatedly cited as a model of a functional international OSM group that 
gets things done and done well. We’re on to something really good here. Thanks 
to all of you for making that happen.




Finally I want to strongly second the rotating board idea from Althio. That 
will introduce more constant discussion of HOT’s direction and prevent months 
of unproductive time being spent preparing for / adjusting from annual 
elections.




Best,

Robert




P.S. Also please goodness let’s working on being more diverse. We’re an 
international organization and we need a more international, gender-balanced 
membership. This isn’t something that happens overnight but we need t


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On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:19 PM, althio althio.fo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear everyone,

 Let me kickstart this.  First, no, I’m not running for the board, but
 here’s what I want HOT to aspire for in the future.
 Good ones, Maning! Very inspiring.
 Here is my brain dump of ideas, wishes, concerns and requests. No
 priorities either. Not a complete assessment, just my point of view.
 What I want from the Board:
 A global overview of the running organisation.
 A strategic view of the key positions and organisation bottlenecks.
 A clear roadmap and to-do list of most-needed actions, most-wanted
 features, most-blocking blockers. Directions. Priorities. Guidance.
 Decision to allocate efforts and money where it helps the most. With
 open decisions, always motivated; open debate whenever it is possible,
 open budget. Transparent. Reports. Feedback.
 What I want from the Board and/or Governance WG:
 Board rotating, eg. 2 seats every 6 months, 2-year term.
 For all processes including nomination and vote for board and
 membership: clear requirements, extended periods, no rush. eg.
 announcement, 1 month for nomination, 1 month for discussion, 1 month
 for vote.
 What I want from Projects and Working groups:
 Project manager(s) collecting, organising ideas and proposing to-do
 lists so that more contributors can help without having to figure out
 the entire organisation or project structure and needs. More
 documentation.
 I would like to see more collaborative work done by 

[HOT] Fwd: [Talk-cl] Tarea en HOTOSM (Valparaiso 2)

[Robert Banick]

Cross-posting the new Valparaiso hills task created by Alvaro Monares of
OSM Chile. HOT continues to assist the Chilean OSM community with the
response to the fires afflicting Valparaiso.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Álvaro Monares G. amona...@dcc.uchile.cl
Date: Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:59 PM
Subject: [Talk-cl] Tarea en HOTOSM
To: talk-cl talk...@openstreetmap.org


Estimados, ya está disponible la tarea
http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/508

Para así poder mapear la parte afectada
que falta.

Saludos cordiales
Álvaro Monares G.


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