Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: how should hugin interact with plugins?

2011-03-18 Thread Gnome Nomad

kfj wrote:

On 17 Mrz., 11:33, Gnome Nomad gnomeno...@gmail.com wrote:


Hmm, I've created 750MB TIFFs on a 32-bit Linux system that has only 2GB
of memory ... I guess Windows is different.


What makes you think I'm on Windows? Im runnung Kububtu 10.10


Somebody - I guess not you! - in the thread mentioned using 32-bit 
Windows 7.



But I did a focus stack with enfuse from three 30 megapixel 16 bit
images. Well near the limit. When I used about 40 megapixels per
source image it became impossible. I doubt you'd manage that with 2GB,
but if you do please tell me how you did it ;-)


A great amount of patience? Running it under FluxBox, which consumes 
only about 128MB of memory vs a couple meg for KDE. And not using 16-bit 
images. And letting the little laptop grind away on it for 10 hours ... ;-)


I made mine from a series of frames I shot covering our trip into the 
harbor at Victoria, Canada, (on a ferry). They covered 3-5 miles of 
shoreline.


By far the biggest I've ever done.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: how should hugin interact with plugins?

2011-03-18 Thread kfj


On 18 Mrz., 08:11, Gnome Nomad gnomeno...@gmail.com wrote:

 A great amount of patience? Running it under FluxBox, which consumes
 only about 128MB of memory vs a couple meg for KDE. And not using 16-bit
 images. And letting the little laptop grind away on it for 10 hours ... ;-)

 I made mine from a series of frames I shot covering our trip into the
 harbor at Victoria, Canada, (on a ferry). They covered 3-5 miles of
 shoreline.

This doesn't really sound like a focus stack to me. Are we talking
about the same thing? I'm not talking about exposure blending with
enblend, but focus stacking with enfuse. I think focus stacks may need
more memory, because they have to look at the neighbourhood of all
pixels to determine the local contrast, which is used as a weighting
criterion. I know that I could have gone 8-bit but chose not to. And
of course I could have chopped the thing up into several smaller
partial images - there's always a way. Currently, it takes a lot of
finessing to do stuff like that, and that's one reason why I'm
developing the scripting interface. When I did the image I was talking
about, it didn't rerally take long, but it took massive amounts of
memory, and when I used larger source images, enfuse simply failed
with a bad alloc. I have an idea what I could have done on top of what
I did to manage with consuming less memory - alas, right now I can't
try it out because the AC adapter of my laptop gave up yesterday...

Kay

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[hugin-ptx] Re: upcoming GSOC 2011

2011-03-18 Thread kfj


On 17 Mrz., 10:58, David Haberthür david.haberth...@gmail.com wrote:

 The applications for the OpenUsability Season is open until the end of
 march. No others got back to this thread with suggestions and support.
 This leaves me wondering if we should apply for a project there. As I
 mentioned before, the OpenUsabilty application seems to be easier
 than for GSoC. Did you look through the application and could you
 suggest someone as a mentor?

I can't propose anyone as mentor, and I can't offer to do it myself -
I'm too busy trying to get the Python interface off the ground, and
summer is approaching, so I'll be off(line) for extended periods. In
fact I could use a mentor - how about an experienced wxWidgets
programmer who can help sort out the current troubles with plugins
wanting do GUI stuff on Windows - or an experienced Mac programmer who
can compile a working Python module on the zoo of feline predators...

I'm quite new to the project as well and don't know any of the other
contributors personally, so I have no idea what they might be able or
willing to do.

 I guess we could just 
 usehttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/hugin/+spec/ui-overhaulas an idea
 for the student project.

If you feel it states what needs to be done I can't see why not. But
don't count on me to do more than writing the blueprint. Let me add a
word of caution. I feel that a lot of everyone's time is consumed by
intergrating new features into hugin and hammering out frequent
releases. Are we sure we can make good use of yet another source of
material? What would the result of the process be and how expensive
would it be to integrate it? If noone else comes forward and you can't
think of anyone, we might be better off shelving the idea, rather than
potentially getting another fat lump of data to swallow that noone's
willing to digest.

Kay

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: how should hugin interact with plugins?

2011-03-18 Thread Gnome Nomad

kfj wrote:


On 18 Mrz., 08:11, Gnome Nomad gnomeno...@gmail.com wrote:


A great amount of patience? Running it under FluxBox, which consumes
only about 128MB of memory vs a couple meg for KDE. And not using 16-bit
images. And letting the little laptop grind away on it for 10 hours ... ;-)

I made mine from a series of frames I shot covering our trip into the
harbor at Victoria, Canada, (on a ferry). They covered 3-5 miles of
shoreline.


This doesn't really sound like a focus stack to me. Are we talking
about the same thing? I'm not talking about exposure blending with
enblend, but focus stacking with enfuse. I think focus stacks may need
more memory, because they have to look at the neighbourhood of all
pixels to determine the local contrast, which is used as a weighting
criterion. I know that I could have gone 8-bit but chose not to. And
of course I could have chopped the thing up into several smaller
partial images - there's always a way. Currently, it takes a lot of
finessing to do stuff like that, and that's one reason why I'm
developing the scripting interface. When I did the image I was talking
about, it didn't rerally take long, but it took massive amounts of
memory, and when I used larger source images, enfuse simply failed
with a bad alloc. I have an idea what I could have done on top of what
I did to manage with consuming less memory - alas, right now I can't
try it out because the AC adapter of my laptop gave up yesterday...


No, definitely not a focus stack. I'm sure doing things with focus 
stacks would use much more memory. I was just talking about producing a 
750MB panorama.


I've done a couple of HDR images, I don't know if they consume memory at 
the rate of a focus stack.


Question: were you running the enfuse stage from command line? I don't 
remember if you said so. I had to do that once before I doubled the 
memory in the laptop.


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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin stitching problem

2011-03-18 Thread kfj


On 17 Mrz., 00:13, Guillermo Movia guillermo.mo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I change tem folder to a non standard one. I don't know if this could be
 the problem

Look into the pto file with a text editor and make sure that the image
files given in the pto are accessible by the paths used in the pto
file. The filename is the last entry in the i-line. It looks like
DSC_9049.JPG etc. are looked for in the folder /tmp/Mexico/JPG - so
you should also check if the images are really there or somehwere
else.

Kay

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[hugin-ptx] Re: how should hugin interact with plugins?

2011-03-18 Thread kfj


On 18 Mrz., 09:55, Gnome Nomad gnomeno...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, definitely not a focus stack. I'm sure doing things with focus
 stacks would use much more memory. I was just talking about producing a
 750MB panorama.

 I've done a couple of HDR images, I don't know if they consume memory at
 the rate of a focus stack.

Propably less, since with exposure stacks you can look at every pixel
in isolation. But don't take my word for it. At any rate, stacks with
enfuse seem to be memory-intensive.

 Question: were you running the enfuse stage from command line? I don't
 remember if you said so. I had to do that once before I doubled the
 memory in the laptop.

I did it from the command line. Maybe I could have somehow coaxed
hugin into issuing the enfuse command for me, but the command line is
a good friend of mine anyway, so that's the path I took ;-)

Kay

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Toward RC1: show stoppers

2011-03-18 Thread Peter Suetterlin

  Hi all,

I had a (sort of) closer look, running hugin in dd.  This tells me

  Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
  0x752ed742 in dscal_ () from /usr/lib64/libblas.so.3

so it seems to be in the lapack part..

I am using a shellscript to compile, at some point I had added
-DENABLE_LAPACK=ON there after some recommendation from the list here.  

So my question is: Is this still needed/recommended, or should I just switch
it off (I verified that it does not crash when compiled without lapack)

Cheers,

  Pit

Andreas Metzler wrote:
 Peter Suetterlin p.suetter...@royac.iac.es wrote:
  didn't have much time for panos lately, but remembered I had some
  trouble with exposure optimization some time ago.  So I had a look
  at the respective project, and it still crashes.
  It's a 3-image partial pano, manual control points.  It stitches
  fine, but when I open the project, go to the 'Exposure' Tab and
  press optimize hugin crashes with a segfault.
 [...]
  pto file and images here:  http://www.astro.su.se/~pit/hugin_example.tgz 
  (9.1MB)
 
  Version is hg f3a428981466, opensuse 11.2 64bit
 [...]
 
 Hello,
 it does not seem to be reproducible on all systems. It does not crash
 for me.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin stitching problem

2011-03-18 Thread Carl von Einem

kfj schrieb am 18.03.11 10:03:



On 17 Mrz., 00:13, Guillermo Moviaguillermo.mo...@gmail.com  wrote:


I change tem folder to a non standard one. I don't know if this could be
the problem


Look into the pto file with a text editor and make sure that the image
files given in the pto are accessible by the paths used in the pto
file. The filename is the last entry in the i-line. It looks like
DSC_9049.JPG etc. are looked for in the folder /tmp/Mexico/JPG - so
you should also check if the images are really there or somehwere
else.


As long as all the source images are in the same folder as the .pto 
project file Hugin should be able to locate them. Otherwise Hugin asks 
for missing images when the project is opened.


I wouldn't use 'tmp' as a name for a new folder though, since that's 
already used by my system (Mac OS X, in Finder - Shift-cmd-G - type 
'/tmp/' without the ' - click 'start')


Carl


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Bug

2011-03-18 Thread Bart van Andel
Probably related: out of curiosity I've played around a bit with a test 
makefile to try different special characters in target names. I've added the 
resulting test.mk as an attachment to bug Stitching fails with '' 
character in path [0].

[0] https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin/+bug/679353

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[hugin-ptx] GSoC 2011 is on!

2011-03-18 Thread Yuval Levy
Congratulation Habi and everybody else for the good job on the application.

http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2011

A good news to start the weekend.

Yuv


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Re: [hugin-ptx] GSoC 2011 is on!

2011-03-18 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
On 18 March 2011 21:19, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote:
 Congratulation Habi and everybody else for the good job on the application.

 http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2011

 A good news to start the weekend.

 Yuv


Thats a great news!

Lukas

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin stitching problem

2011-03-18 Thread Guillermo Movia
On 18/03/11 06:03, kfj wrote:
 
 
 On 17 Mrz., 00:13, Guillermo Movia guillermo.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I change tem folder to a non standard one. I don't know if this could be
 the problem
 
 Look into the pto file with a text editor and make sure that the image
 files given in the pto are accessible by the paths used in the pto
 file. The filename is the last entry in the i-line. It looks like
 DSC_9049.JPG etc. are looked for in the folder /tmp/Mexico/JPG - so
 you should also check if the images are really there or somehwere
 else.
 
 Kay
 

Thanks for your reply. All photos are at /mnt/datos/Mexico/JPG folder,
where pto file is too. temp/working folder is set to /mnt/datos and in
the pto file, images are referenced like Mexico/JPG/DSC

So, for some reason, still use /tmp/ n some way and I couldn't change
it. I will try to return to default values and start again.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Toward RC1: show stoppers

2011-03-18 Thread Bruno Postle

On Fri 18-Mar-2011 at 10:29 +0100, Peter Suetterlin wrote:


I am using a shellscript to compile, at some point I had added
-DENABLE_LAPACK=ON there after some recommendation from the list here.



So my question is: Is this still needed/recommended, or should I just switch
it off (I verified that it does not crash when compiled without lapack)


There doesn't seem to be any difference if you leave it on or off, I 
leave it off.  You are the first to report negative results from 
switching it on.


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Re: [hugin-ptx] panosphere overview disappears when an image has a mask beyond its boundaries

2011-03-18 Thread Bruno Postle

On Wed 16-Mar-2011 at 14:43 -0700, Jeff wrote:


If you have a mask on an image beyond the boundaries of the image, 
the panosphere doesn't appear correctly in the overview in the 
fast preview window. The panosphere acts correctly when you toggle 
off the image with the mask.


The odd behavior goes away if the mask is completely contained 
within the image.


Confirmed, I created a bug report in the tracker: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin/+bug/737852


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[hugin-ptx] Fwd: Congratulations!

2011-03-18 Thread David Haberthür
Yeah! We've been accepted for GSoC!
(See forwarded email below).
Habi 


Begin forwarded message:

 From: socghop.nore...@gmail.com
 Date: 18. März 2011 20:00:30 MEZ
 To: david.haberth...@gmail.com
 Subject: Congratulations!
 

 Hi David Haberthür,
 
 Congratulations, your application for Hugin - Panorama photo stitcher as a 
 mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2011 has been accepted! Over 
 the next few days, you should plan to register your mentors and complete some 
 housekeeping tasks to make sure your pages on the GSoC 2010 site are up to 
 date. Please read this email very carefully, as it contains important 
 instructions for you and your organization.
 
 The most important thing to do right now is to check your email for an 
 invitation to become an organization administrator. If you do not do this, it 
 will *not* be possible for anyone to apply to become a mentor (as there is no 
 adminstrator to approve them)! You should have received a notification (the 
 same as an email too) about this. If you cannot find the notification, you 
 can find the invitation under your requests. Again, please do this *now*.
 
 For more information on registering your mentors and other/alternate 
 administrators, please see the site User Guide.
 
 You should immediately plan to update your accepted organization profile and 
 to create your organization's home page at socghop.appspot.com. You can find 
 instructions for this in the User Guide: Organization Administrators section. 
 Please do this *now*, as it ensure that would-be student applicants have the 
 best access to your organization's information.
 
 We will periodically subscribe mentors who sign up with your organization to 
 the program's private mentors mailing list. Please let your mentors know to 
 expect this. Please also let them know that they may be resubscribed a few 
 times if they choose to unsubscribe and we apologize in advance if this 
 occurs. It may be worth setting the mailing list preferences to digest only 
 for the few days of the program.
 
 Once again, congratulations for your acceptance into Google Summer of Code 
 2011!
 
 Kind regards, 
 The Google Summer of Code Program Administration Team

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