Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin 2011.2.0_rc2 released
thanks On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Matthew Petroff matt...@mpetroff.netwrote: Hugin 2011.2.0-rc2 binaries for Windows are now available. See sourceforge.net downloads page: https://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2011.2_beta/ The builds are not Python enabled as I have yet to devise a method of distribution that reliably works without a local Python install. Matthew On Jul 20, 12:30 am, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: Hugin-2011.2.0_rc2 RELEASE NOTES ABOUT Hugin is more than just a panorama stitcher. A new version is available. This is a release candidate and may be declared a final release in a few days. Hugin can be found at * SourceForge: http://hugin.sourceforge.net/ * Launchpad:https://launchpad.net/hugin DOWNLOAD The 2011.2.0_rc2 source tarball can be downloaded * from SourceForge athttp:// sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2011.2_beta/h... * from Launchpad athttp:// launchpad.net/hugin/2011.2/2011.2rc2/+download/hugin-2011.2.0_... This is a source code release. For executables see below. This tarball is equivalent to rev/changeset 5432:68a9839c47a6 in our Mercurial repository, where it is also tagged 2011.2.0_rc2 Verify its SHA1SUM 10be081a00160f5a2725789c0a407d85fe53b164 hugin-2011.2.0_rc2.tar.bz2 EXECUTABLES Users communities produce executables for their respective platforms. These executables are then added to the download section on SourceForge athttp://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/ A number of users have built recent snapshots and executables are likely to be announced within a few days of this tarball release. Watchhttp://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptxfor the announcements of binary releases. If you don't see a binary for your platform it has most likely not been produced yet. Consider stepping up to the task. Instructions at http://wiki.panotools.org/Development_of_Open_Source_tools#Supported_... Announce your build onhttp://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx SPLASH SCREEN To promote artists using Hugin the project has adopted a user-contributed artwork to enrich the splash screen of this release. Read more about the Fafleralp panorama and author/contributor David Haberthür athttp://hugin.sourceforge.net/releases/2011.2.0/ CHANGES SINCE 2011.0.0 Little time has passed since our last release and yet there is new major functionality. Hugin has received a Python scripting interface and new lens calibration tool. A critical bug affecting a significant number of Mac users has been fixed and many general improvements have been made. _Lens Calibration Tool_ Lenses are designed to follow a perfect geometric model. For rectilinear lenses, a straight line in the depicted scene should be straight in the picture. This is not always the case: most lenses have an inherent deviation from the perfect model, resulting in imperfections such as pincushion or barrel distortion in rectilinear lenses. Adherence to the perfect geometric model is desirable for aesthetic purposes and indespensible to achieve proper alignment when stitching images. Hugin can calculate lens distortion parameters on the fly when optimizing a project, however this requires more control points and more computational effort than a project starting with a calibrated lens, and is prone to more errors. The new lens calibration tool calculates the distortion parameters of a lens based on an input image. The input image must contain straight lines, ideally many of them at different distances from the center of the lens, covering at least 1/4 of the image. The calculated parameters are valid for a given combination of focal distance, aperture (F-stop), and sensor. The values, saved into a lens profile, can be used in Hugin to achieve a better stitch, or on single images taken with this lens / settings combination to achieve a more aesthetically pleasing outcome. _Python Scripting Interface_ Hugin now exposes some of its data structure and functionalities through a Python module. To get started with scripting, start your Python interpreter and type: import hsi help (hsi) Standalone Python programs can access a panorama object with Hugin's functionality. It is possible to develop complete command line and even GUI tools based on this module. _Python Plugin Interface_ Hugin can now run Python scripts inside the application. In an enabled Hugin binary, a new Actions menu gives access to system-wide plugins distributed with Hugin. Moreover, plugins can be written, modified, customized in the user's own directory. Currently there are only a few plugins available, but we expect the body of available plugins and functionality to grow organically as the interface is being made available to the general public. _Other
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fwd: Lens photometrics not calibrating
You can manually set exposure EV for your individual nadir shot in hugin images tab and can see the result live in fast preview windows. I hope it helps you. On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Directrix directrix.digi...@gmail.comwrote: On Jun 25, 2:04 am, Charlie Reiman rei...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is the second len's exposure optimization never does anything. I go to the exposure tab and tell it to optimize and only lens zero gets updated. Lens one never changes. So my seamless floor patch is always too bright or dim or weirdly striped. I've replicated this with a stackless LDR stitch and a 3 image stacked pano, on both Windows (release) and Mac (beta). Any tips? This is the last thing I need to fix for these panos. Charlie. Something to try: Save, your project under a new name, go into the preview window and apply a 90 degree pitch adjustment to your panorama (0,90,0). I usually do this step so that I can apply X Y Z translations to the handheld nadir (floor) image. This may help to avoid mathematical challenges associated with exposure calculations around the nadir area of an equirectanglar layout. If this works, you will have to apply a -90 pitch adjustment when stitching this Nadir back onto the rest of your panorama. I am having some issues (may be related to yours) where my Nadir images are brighter than the ones it overlaps with. This is a problem because when stitching exposure stacks, enblend/hdrmerge prefer all stacks to have the same exposure values. Eg 10, 12, 14 EV. When I include some images with 10.4, 12.4, 14.4 EV it does not complete the stitching process or leaves a black area where these images were. So even if you get the right exposure, it may create problems with stitching later. I am considering adjusting the exposure of my Nadir images in RAW processing stage to work around this issue. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Fast Panorama Preview is freeze
Well it is a DRIVER problem. I had same problems. Once I tried hugin with ubuntu on same system and fast preview windows worked like charm on same hardware. So it is matter of DRIVER only. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Peter Steneld peter.sten...@gmail.comwrote: On 23 Juni, 08:57, namklim namk...@gmail.com wrote: This is a known bug - seehttp:// groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/browse_thread/thread/96df0e9... for report and ways to avoid the problem It seems to have been fixed in 2011.2.o beta1 I am not sure that it is the same problem, but I tested a very resent build in feodora 15 yesterday with 264 large tiff pictures. I had 6 Gig free RAM available for Hugin in a reasonable new dual core Lenovo workstation. Finding control points went well, 10-15 minutes, showing the standard pre-view took a minute, no problem. The quick pre-view though did nothing else but consume CPU with a freezed GUI and after one hour I decided to kill the process and start over. /Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: A job for Hugin mosaic-mode - hieroglyphs
Thanks. Moving vehicle is not compulsory. It can be done while walking. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: On May 31, 2011 02:18:47 AM Emad ud din Btt wrote: Yes, I am talking about using a telephoto lens and shooting a linear panorama from different spots. I have not got to a similar project after a first proof of concept due to lack of time. [0] might be useful information for you. I am talking about using telephoto compression to make surfaces flat. The only difference between tele and wide/fish lens will be image resolution and the quantity of manual fiddling. objects physically not on one same plane. Unless you can physically remove them you will have to work around them with carefully thought (or selected) shooting perspectives and patient masking. I want to shoot a long linear panorama of a historical road from a moving car. Have you considered using or simulating a line-scan camera? If you take enough continuous shoots you can cut one-pixel wide stripes from the middle of each shot and align them side by side. No stitching. Requires a trigger based on the covered distance and a reasonably fast rig; or a constant driving speed at fixed fps (e.g. HD camcorder). If you want to go the stitching way, you need to think of every protruding/intruding element and how it affects/overlaps the theoretical plane you're shooting against. Not something you can do in real-time out of a moving vehicle. If the moving vehicle is a must, I would say *film* (or shoot continuously at the maximum fps that your rig can do) and select/mask. I would forego the vehicle. Walk and let your eye call the shots (pun intended). Visualize in your mind the flat surface (roll of paper - it does not have to be straight as the road can take curves) identify intrusions and protrusions and visualize the potential seam lines around them. When in doubt, shoot one or two extra perspectives and select when working on the stitch. The choice of focal length is a trade-off between the required target resolution and the quantity of manual work you want to put in this. The longer the lens, the more work you will have - because of the quantity of shots, but also because of the reduced leeway in positioning the seam line. Consider also using multiple focal distances, i.e. do a first backdrop with a fisheye and then use the tele lens only to capture those subjects for which you need the extra resolution. Good luck Yuv [0] http://panospace.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/linear-panoramas-mosaic- tutorial/http://panospace.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/linear-panoramas-mosaic-tutorial/ -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: A job for Hugin mosaic-mode - hieroglyphs
Oskar is there any details available as how these were stitched together? On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Oskar Sander oskar.san...@gmail.comwrote: I reckon this looks like a Hugin job: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1393591/Graveyard-Atlantic-U-boats-the-ocean.html Very very impressive visibility as this was only some 33 shots. Cheers O 2011/5/30 Oskar Sander oskar.san...@gmail.com A recent mosaic of hidden rooms in the great pyramid, see link below. However they should have used Hugin, lousy blending! http://news.discovery.com/archaeology/zooms/pyramids-hieroglyphs-robot-mystery-110526.html This is a bit OT I know, but it would be interesting to hear from some more mosaic-mode users here on recent projects (As I havent been able to gather any new material for mosaicing myself recently...) Cheers /O -- /O -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Just tried out 2011.0.0, but the fast panorama preview screen is Not Responding (ie. hangs)
I have same bug. but I have disabled opening of Fast preview after allign. File preferences assistant after allign = do nothing Than i open fast preview window and it opens without problem. On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:24 AM, dennisk 1...@denniskidwell.net wrote: changing that checkmark on my winxp 32 system causes a crash instead of no response -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin 2011.0.0 released
Thanks again Matthew. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:52 AM, Matthew Petroff matt...@mpetroff.netwrote: On May 29, 3:54 pm, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: EXECUTABLES Users communities produce executables for their respective platforms. These executables are then added to the download section on SourceForge at http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/ Windows binaries are now on SourceForge. Matthew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: A job for Hugin mosaic-mode - hieroglyphs
Yes, I am talking about using a telephoto lens and shooting a linear panorama from different spots. I am talking about using telephoto compression to make surfaces flat. For example there are objects physically not on one same plane. So thats not a flat surface to shoot. A telephoto lens will make this plane flat. But do you have any info about Lens (mm) to distance relationship to minimalize parallactic error. I want to shoot a long linear panorama of a historical road from a moving car. Emaad On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 9:43 PM, kfj _...@yahoo.com wrote: On 30 Mai, 17:53, Emad ud din Btt xyzt...@gmail.com wrote: Kay, Can we utilize dof compression as well? Like you are looking for flat surfaces and dof of a telephoto lens also compresses depth. Objects physically apart form each other start looking like on one same plan. So what about mosaicing with a telephoto lens. Will it have effect or not? What do you say? If yes, what would be ideal lens? I'm not sure if I understand what you mean. If the subject is flat, it doesn't matter which lens(es) you use. If it's not you're better off shooting from one spot (panorama-style) and with a long lens from afar so you have less parallactic errors. If you taking the images from a spot looks wrong and you want the 'flat' impression (like, with large facades), your best bet is to be as far away as possible and use a long lens, minimizing parallactic differences between images. If you can't get far enough away, you'll have a hard time getting a convincing result without manual intervantion. Kay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: A job for Hugin mosaic-mode - hieroglyphs
Kay, Can we utilize dof compression as well? Like you are looking for flat surfaces and dof of a telephoto lens also compresses depth. Objects physically apart form each other start looking like on one same plan. So what about mosaicing with a telephoto lens. Will it have effect or not? What do you say? If yes, what would be ideal lens? On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:59 PM, kfj _...@yahoo.com wrote: On 30 Mai, 09:33, Oskar Sander oskar.san...@gmail.com wrote: A recent mosaic of hidden rooms in the great pyramid, see link below. However they should have used Hugin, lousy blending! http://news.discovery.com/archaeology/zooms/pyramids-hieroglyphs-robo... Lousy blending indeed, but the take was quite probably incredibly difficult as well... This is a bit OT I know, but it would be interesting to hear from some more mosaic-mode users here on recent projects (As I havent been able to gather any new material for mosaicing myself recently...) One of the things I practise my mosaic skills on is public maps and signposts when I'm out walking. These are ideal subjects as they are flat, and still a single image usually isn't enough to capture the whole thing so precisely as to make small writing readable, nor can you meticulously choose your point of view - I just do them freehand best as I can. I also capture the whole thing once in one shot to get something as an anchor image and to 'pin' the higher-res images to and do the finetuning with a few line control points along the edges or other promient linear features. Proper optimization takes a bit of fiddling so as to not introduce too many degrees of freedom (like, you can't usually optimize 'everything' together without strange things happening), but what I get in the end is very good indeed. It's also a reasonable way to avoid using a scanner for large format material (posters, maps), since you can't scan the whole original as backdrop and anchor, resulting in endless attempts to position the tiles seamlessly (which is hard to achieve in my experience - or you have to scan ample overlaps and that takes lots of time). Kay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: small artifacts in exposure fusions with enfuse
kay plz try your project without any masks? than compare both and share. On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:40 PM, kfj _...@yahoo.com wrote: On 25 Mai, 19:08, Kay F. Jahnke _...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all! I have a problem with enfuse here (Kubuntu 11.4, bleeding edge enfuse) which I only noticed recently, ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/enblend/+bug/787387 So that was five days ago. No replies so far (at least none dealing with the topic), neither to my postings here nor to the bug report in the enblend bug tracker. I went there again this morning and had a look. I noticed that out of the tag cloud displayed there, twoprominent tags (out of ten) were 'corruption' and 'failure'. There also seem to be other people getting erroneous results from enXXX. This is worrying - hugin relies on these helper programs, and if we can't stitch/fuse flawlessly, all our other efforts become futile. I need help with this problem - currently I can't fuse my exposure stacks properly, and I don't know why. You may say that 'a few bright yellow pixels can easily be removed in photoshop, and your clusters of noisy dots in dark areas can be easily painted over with the surrounding dark colour' but I'm not happy with this solution. I also truly recommend to everyone else: do have a look. The flaws are subtle and easily missed - you don't want your panoramas to be flawed and only later have someone pointing out to you the flaws which you had not noticed at the time because you implicitly trused enfuse to do what it should. While the problem persists, could anyone please recommend another fusing program available for Ubuntu that can be used instead of enfuse - plus the parameters for it to put into the hugin preferences? Kay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2011.0.0_rc1 released
MANY THANKS TO HUGIN TEAM for your efforts THANKS A LOT MATHEW FOR WINDOWS BUILDS. You are really fast and consistent in making windows builds. On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Matthew Petroff matt...@mpetroff.netwrote: Windows binaries for Hugin 2011.0.0-rc1 are now available: 32-bit (no installer): http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2011.0_beta/Hugin_2011.0.0-rc1_32bit_Windows.7z/download 32-bit installer: http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2011.0_beta/HuginSetup_2011.0.0-rc1_32bit_Windows.exe/download 64-bit (no installer): http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2011.0_beta/Hugin_2011.0.0-rc1_64bit_Windows.7z/download 64-bit installer: http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2011.0_beta/HuginSetup_2011.0.0-rc1_64bit_Windows.exe/download Matthew On May 15, 7:45 pm, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: Hugin-2011.0.0_rc1 RELEASE NOTES ABOUT Hugin is more than just a panorama stitcher. A new version is available. This is a release candidate and may be declared a final release in a few days. Hugin can be found at * SourceForge: http://hugin.sourceforge.net/ * Launchpad:https://launchpad.net/hugin DOWNLOAD The 2011.0.0_rc1 source tarball can be downloaded * from SourceForge athttp:// sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2011.0_beta/h... * from Launchpad athttp:// launchpad.net/hugin/2011.0/2011.0rc1/+download/hugin-2011.0.0_... This is a source code release. For executables see below. This tarball is equivalent to rev/changeset 5207:ac287c432eb6 in our Mercurial repository, where it is also tagged 2011.0.0_rc1 Verify its SHA1SUM be8aa338705880dea5119662fe073ea06521440a hugin-2011.0.0_rc1.tar.bz2 EXECUTABLES Users communities produce executables for their respective platforms. These executables are then added to the download section on SourceForge athttp://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/ A number of users have built recent snapshots and executables are likely to be announced within a few days of this tarball release. Watchhttp://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptxfor the announcements of binary releases. If you don't see a binary for your platform it has most likely not been produced yet. Consider stepping up to the task. Instructions at http://wiki.panotools.org/Development_of_Open_Source_tools#Supported_... Announce your build onhttp://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx SPLASH SCREEN To promote artists using Hugin the project has adopted a user-contributed artwork to enrich the splash screen of this release. Read more about the Seattle Sunset panorama and author/contributor Jeff Boyd athttp://hugin.sourceforge.net/releases/2011.0.0/ TRANSLATIONS Updated since the last beta tarball: * Brazilian (Luís Henrique Camargo Quiroz) * Czech translation (Vaclav Cerny) * Swedish translation (Ulf Wilhelmson) New strings have been added. Now is a good time to help update your language. Instructions athttp://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_translation_guide CHANGES SINCE 2010.4.0 Despite some known issues (see section KNOWN ISSUES below) this release brings many major new features worth releasing now. Hugin's own control point generator CPFind has been significantly improved; the last project from the 2010 Google Summer of Code has been integrated; many general improvements have been made. _Improved Built-in Control Points Generator_ CPFind's detection ability has been significantly improved, especially for wide angle ( FOV 65°) images, fisheye images, and rotated images. Anecdotal evidence shows it to be more accurate than any other CP detector ever used with Hugin. A thorough, scientific comparison against other CP detectors is welcome. If you have well formed comparison results, please publish a link on the Hugin mailing list athttp://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/ _Improved Fast Preview_ An Overview pane has been added to the Fast Preview window. Users can now interact with the panosphere like in a virtual reality viewer in real time and visualize all areas of the panorama with little distortion, including the zenith and nadir that are typically excessively distorted in the flat preview. It is now possible to drag individual images or arbitrary groups of images on the panosphere in the fast preview. A new gray point picker has been added for visual white balance correction. _Registration of Stereo Images_ align_image_stack is commonly used for the alignment of slightly misaligned images, e.g. for creating a High Dynamic Range image from multiple exposures when the camera was hand held. It has been extended with additional functionality for the registration of stereo images. _Other Improvements_ * Man pages are now compressed and the generation is
Re: [hugin-ptx] strahov gigapixel
yes, I really enjoyed it. its really impressive work done. Jeffery what are technical details of equipment (camera, lens etc) used for it? How you calculated exposure for such a huge mosaic. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Jeffrey Martin 360cit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everybody, Just thought you might enjoy this http://www.360cities.net/gigapixel/strahov-library.html It wasn't made with Hugin though. Maybe when I can get cpfind to reduce images to a specified pixel size ;-))) seriously though, I would like to make one of the next ones using hugin, to give hugin some nice publicity! :-) cheers, Jeffrey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Advice wanted on wide angle lenses
Thanks Jeffery. I have read many reviews and also checked images. Samyang is a better lens indeed :)) On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Jeffrey Martin 360cit...@gmail.com wrote: no contest, samyang is vastly superior in terms of flare. at any rate, you MUST keep your fisheye lens very very clean - perfectly clean, no smears, not a speck of dust - or you WILL get flare, no matter what lens you use :-) Jeffrey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2011.0_beta2 released
Thanks Methew for Windows Builds... On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Matthew Petroff matt...@mpetroff.netwrote: Windows binaries for Hugin 2010.1.0-beta1 are now available: 32-bit (no installer): http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2011.0_beta/Hugin_2011.0.0-beta1_32bit_Windows.7z/download 32-bit installer: http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2011.0_beta/HuginSetup_2011.0.0-beta1_32bit_Windows.exe/download I will try to build and upload 64-bit versions sometime later this week. Matthew On Feb 27, 7:27 pm, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hugin-2011.0.0_beta2 RELEASE NOTES Hugin is a panorama stitcher and more. A new version is available. A small error passed through the beta1. Please use this tarball instead. SCHEDULE https://launchpad.net/hugin/2011.0 The purpose of the schedule is to make the process as predictable as possible so that contributors can plan for their own contributions (e.g. translations and bug fixes) and distributors can plan for the binary builds. The schedule is just an indication. The release will happen when it is ready. DOWNLOAD The 2010.4beta2 source tarball can be downloaded * from sourceforge athttp:// sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2011.0_beta/h... * from launchpad athttp:// launchpad.net/hugin/2011.0/2011.0beta2/+download/hugin-2011.0 This is a source code release. For executables see below. This tarball is equivalent to rev/changeset 5047:f7ea2426b8de in our Mercurial repository, where it is also tagged 2011.0beta2 Verify its SHA1SUM d625af818cec0e9f9dbe4d1bfed8453c56dd2d85 hugin-2011.0.0_beta2.tar.bz2 EXECUTABLES Users communities produce executables for their respective platforms. A number of users have built recent snapshots and executables are likely to be announced within a few days of this tarball release. Watchhttp://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptxfor the announcements of binary releases. If you don't see a binary for your platform it has most likely not been produced yet. Consider stepping up to the task. Instructions at http://wiki.panotools.org/Development_of_Open_Source_tools#Supported_... Announce your build onhttp://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx TRANSLATIONS New strings have been added. Now is a good time to help update your language. Instructions athttp://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_translation_guide VISUAL APPEARANCE To promote artists using Hugin the project will adopt a user-contributed artwork to enrich the splash screen of this release. Selection of the artwork is by popular vote. Vote athttp://www.photopla.net/hugin/2011.0.artwork.html Details athttp:// groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/t/44f1834f0d18c2d8http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/t/2c24c7938309a241 Entries are still accepted and voting goes on until a few days before the first release candidate. If you miss this cycle you will get an opportunity to enter your artwork for the next release cycle. DEDICATION This release of Hugin is dedicated to Claudius Ptolemaeus and Marinus of Tyre. Details in the About menu. CHANGES SINCE 2010.4.0 Only two months have passed since our last release and yet there have been major changes. Hugin's own control point generator cpfind has been significantly improved; the last project from the 2010 Google Summer of Code has been integrated; many general improvements have been made. _Improved Built-in Control Points Generator_ Cpfind's detection ability has been significantly improved, especially for wide angle ( FOV 65°) images, fisheye images, and rotated images. Annecdotal evidence shows it to be more accurate than any other CP detector ever used with Hugin. A thorough, scientifical comparision against other CP detectors is welcome. If you have well formed comparison results, please publish a link on the Hugin mailing list athttp://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/ _Improved Fast Preview_ An Overview pane has been added to the Fast Preview window. Users can now interact with the panosphere like in a virtual reality viewer in real time and visualize all areas of the panorama with little distortion, including the zenith and nadir that are typically excessively distorted in the flat preview. It is now possible to drag individual images or arbitrary groups of images on the panosphere in the fast preview. A new gray point picker has been added for visual white balance correction. _Registration of Stereo Images_ align_image_stack is commonly used for the alignment of slightly misaligned images, e.g. for creating a High Dynamic Range image from multiple exposures when the camera was hand held. It has been extended with additional functionality for the registration of stereo
Re: [hugin-ptx] Dragging of customized image groups in fast preview
thanks and wow this is going to be a very nice feature. Many people were waiting for this update. When windows users can use this feature? On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:48 AM, brian_ims im...@netspace.net.au wrote: Darko Makreshanski-2 wrote: Hi Darko, Compiles and appears to work as described in Windows Cheers Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Dragging-of-customized-image-groups-in-fast-preview-tp30960867p30964448.html Sent from the hugin ptx mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: More image tabs in fast preview window
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Bruno Postle br...@postle.net wrote: On Sat 29-Jan-2011 at 12:10 +0500, Emad ud din Btt wrote: On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 3:03 AM, Bruno Postle br...@postle.net wrote: Maybe the solution is simply to write the image numbers in big letters over the photos in the preview. Bruno, If you have 200+ images in panorama than all numbers will mix up :)) It would only show numbers for the photos you are trying to identify. Okay it looks fine that it highlight image numbers on only Image group where mouse is. It can be helpful. But in multiple row case, there can be 4 images overlapping each other. Two adjacent images in each row. Hugin will only open two adjacent images in one row. This feature is required due to multiple row panoramas and where number of images is more than 150.I have attached a screenshot. You really do have too many photos in this project, it makes a lot more work than is necessary. I use it to manually fix values of y,p,r of images because cant drag n drop individual images at the moment. Clicking on a single photo rather than a pair could be made to select that photo in the Images tab. Well, Both these features look good. -- Bruno -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: More image tabs in fast preview window
Bruno, Identify tool works fine with mouse over. But our problem here is very large number of images. For example If I am stitching 150+ images than i have to scroll many times to reach that image. Is it possible we have 3 or 4 rows of image numbers above like PTgui? So that we dont have to scroll. On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:08 AM, john doe guerrerodelu...@gmail.com wrote: i had an idea in the fast preview window mode, how about when selecting the projection type you want to choose a small image regarding the type of projection shows next to the selection? On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Bruno Postle br...@postle.net wrote: On Thu 27-Jan-2011 at 01:33 -0800, Jeffrey Martin wrote: Also, if I'm not mistaken, you can't mouse over an image in the preview window to see which image it is. Can you? Yes this is one of the things you can do with the Identify button in the Preview window. -- Bruno -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: More image tabs in fast preview window
Hi, There is no update/feedback on this issue. Is there anyone working on it or it is not doable. I think at the moment please just provide simple solution like 4 rows above so that pictures can be easily identified. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Emad ud din Btt xyzt...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any update on this issue? On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Sigma Relief jkru...@gmail.com wrote: I am glad this is a common issue and it looks like there are lots of ideas. I like the proposed dynamic area that automatically shows all selected photos, but it should be an option, not a replacement for the context of seeing where in the sequence images lie. Allowing the user to adjust the height of the tab section and thus control how many lines are displayed would solve the how many to show dilemma. While on this topic, a more direct way to find a specific image would be useful. Many CAD systems let users right click through a stacked layer of parts to select hidden objects. A similar right click option to cycle thru stacked photos, identify the number of a selected photo, and perhaps most importantly, allow editing of some sort would be great. Being able to directly remove a selected image from the project via the preview pane once selected, either thru the tab at top or a new right click option is a good first start to weed out bad images. Allowing masks to be drawn in preview will allow much greater continuity and speed for tweeking multi row images. Being able to crop all the moving heads from the upper row of a pano shot in a crowd quickly would be nice. Same goes for moving clouds between rows. There would obviously need to be some method of selecting which image or images to apply masks to. Adding control points would be another obvious feature to add to the preview tool once images can be directly selected. A zoom function would make placement a lot more accurate. The current scroll wheel field of view change(when they are selected) is mostly useless as is is not used often and the manual slider is much more accurate when needed. I'm sure zooming is a heavy set of computations, but resizing the window works like a charm, I don't see why this should be that different. An even more exotic control point feature would be an auto find feature that takes a user selected point on 1 image and searches nearby areas in all stacked photos for similar points. A dynamic threshold that starts lower than normal (after all, these points were probably not found in the origional search) and increases based on the angular distance (not pixel distance) from the chosen point. I have found selecting the exact same point on stacked photos, especially architectural ones with hard lines helps mediocre alignment projects, but gets time consuming when 5 or more images stack. It is these heavily overlapped corners that such a feature helps with most by getting everything to converge on 1 point. Being able to see control points that only tie to a single image could help root out bad images as the current implementation gets overwhelmed in large projects. A feature to sort by worst average control point distance for an entire image would also point out trouble images better than the worst pairs list in the control points tab. Well that got a bit out of hand, I hope I don't kill a good thread. I know feature requests are a dime a dozen, but the new fast preview is so good in my opinion that it deserves a spot in the creation chain, not just to check results. On Jan 13, 8:21 am, kevin ke...@bluelavalamp.net wrote: On Jan 13, 3:36 am, kfj _...@yahoo.com wrote: I sympathize. In complex multi-sequence situations with large numbers of images, trying to identify images by looking at 'which number lights up' (or reverse) is a pain, since often the numbers for the image one wants to identify are outside the currently displayed range. This has often annoyed me. But where does one draw a line? 100 images? 200? two rows? three? maybe there's a better way altogether? Kay On 13 Jan., 05:54, Sigma Relief jkru...@gmail.com wrote: Just a minor request for the GUI on the fast preview feature in windows; make the numbered tabs closer together when there are more images. The old version could fit 50+ on a 1600 pixel wide screen while fast preview fits 40 with large spacing between tabs. Reducing spacing would be a good easy start. Wrapping to a 2nd or 3rd line would make identifying images easier as it eliminates having to continually scroll back and forth when using the identify feature. At least in Windows, there is plenty of room for 3 rows of numbers, 1 above the current row and 1 where the horizontal scroll bar is. A small vertical scroll bar could be used for more than 3 rows. Are there any simple variables a user could tweak to improve this? I'm not sure
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: More image tabs in fast preview window
Is there any update on this issue? On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Sigma Relief jkru...@gmail.com wrote: I am glad this is a common issue and it looks like there are lots of ideas. I like the proposed dynamic area that automatically shows all selected photos, but it should be an option, not a replacement for the context of seeing where in the sequence images lie. Allowing the user to adjust the height of the tab section and thus control how many lines are displayed would solve the how many to show dilemma. While on this topic, a more direct way to find a specific image would be useful. Many CAD systems let users right click through a stacked layer of parts to select hidden objects. A similar right click option to cycle thru stacked photos, identify the number of a selected photo, and perhaps most importantly, allow editing of some sort would be great. Being able to directly remove a selected image from the project via the preview pane once selected, either thru the tab at top or a new right click option is a good first start to weed out bad images. Allowing masks to be drawn in preview will allow much greater continuity and speed for tweeking multi row images. Being able to crop all the moving heads from the upper row of a pano shot in a crowd quickly would be nice. Same goes for moving clouds between rows. There would obviously need to be some method of selecting which image or images to apply masks to. Adding control points would be another obvious feature to add to the preview tool once images can be directly selected. A zoom function would make placement a lot more accurate. The current scroll wheel field of view change(when they are selected) is mostly useless as is is not used often and the manual slider is much more accurate when needed. I'm sure zooming is a heavy set of computations, but resizing the window works like a charm, I don't see why this should be that different. An even more exotic control point feature would be an auto find feature that takes a user selected point on 1 image and searches nearby areas in all stacked photos for similar points. A dynamic threshold that starts lower than normal (after all, these points were probably not found in the origional search) and increases based on the angular distance (not pixel distance) from the chosen point. I have found selecting the exact same point on stacked photos, especially architectural ones with hard lines helps mediocre alignment projects, but gets time consuming when 5 or more images stack. It is these heavily overlapped corners that such a feature helps with most by getting everything to converge on 1 point. Being able to see control points that only tie to a single image could help root out bad images as the current implementation gets overwhelmed in large projects. A feature to sort by worst average control point distance for an entire image would also point out trouble images better than the worst pairs list in the control points tab. Well that got a bit out of hand, I hope I don't kill a good thread. I know feature requests are a dime a dozen, but the new fast preview is so good in my opinion that it deserves a spot in the creation chain, not just to check results. On Jan 13, 8:21 am, kevin ke...@bluelavalamp.net wrote: On Jan 13, 3:36 am, kfj _...@yahoo.com wrote: I sympathize. In complex multi-sequence situations with large numbers of images, trying to identify images by looking at 'which number lights up' (or reverse) is a pain, since often the numbers for the image one wants to identify are outside the currently displayed range. This has often annoyed me. But where does one draw a line? 100 images? 200? two rows? three? maybe there's a better way altogether? Kay On 13 Jan., 05:54, Sigma Relief jkru...@gmail.com wrote: Just a minor request for the GUI on the fast preview feature in windows; make the numbered tabs closer together when there are more images. The old version could fit 50+ on a 1600 pixel wide screen while fast preview fits 40 with large spacing between tabs. Reducing spacing would be a good easy start. Wrapping to a 2nd or 3rd line would make identifying images easier as it eliminates having to continually scroll back and forth when using the identify feature. At least in Windows, there is plenty of room for 3 rows of numbers, 1 above the current row and 1 where the horizontal scroll bar is. A small vertical scroll bar could be used for more than 3 rows. Are there any simple variables a user could tweak to improve this? I'm not sure if there is an official feature request area so any pointers would be appreciated. What about in addition to the row with the scroll bar there's a line where the numbers change. If there's no mouse on an image the area is blank, when the mouse moves over images that area is used to show
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: PTS files
pts Files exported from Autpano works well in Hugin. But if you load PTgui latest version pts files into Hugin, It does not work. On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:58 AM, Dale Beams drbe...@hotmail.com wrote: Earlier when I posted my many screenshot links about CPFind and it's failure on my system, I also was using a *.pts as a base. However it was a *.pts file I'd generated from Autopano Pro rather than PTGui it self. When I attempted the pano with Hugin directly with CPFind itself, it did not fail, however, the photos were a jumbled ... Dale On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 22:48 +, Bruno Postle wrote: On Sun 16-Jan-2011 at 14:37 -0800, Tom Sharpless wrote: On Jan 12, 1:35 pm, Bruno Postle br...@postle.net wrote: Hugin can import ptgui .pts files and save them as Hugin .pto projects, though if you have any cropped photos in the project you will need to fiddle with the crop and reoptimise. When I give it a PTS file from PTGui 9, my copy of 2010.2 (Win32) displays the lens type and number of control points, then crashes (loops forever) apparently while trying to load images. My guess it that this has to do with PTGui's dummy image, that is used as a reference for common parameters, but has no file name. I don't have PTGui, but I have seen recent reports that this function still works. The dummy image always existed in PTGui .pts projects, so this isn't likely to be the cause of the problem. If you have some .pts files that fail then it would useful to attach them to a bug report in launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin -- Bruno -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Error creating a panorama
Tobias, This is common issue. As kevin told, Just add --fine-mask parameter in enblend and it will work. Go to 1. Stitcher tab 2. Go to Blender options. 3. Last one is Enblend 4. click on options next to it 5. Add--fine-mask parameter in it. I hope your problem will be fixed. Bruno, Can it be added to hugin. Hugin auto adds this switch when problem occurs ? On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:25 AM, Bruno Postle br...@postle.net wrote: On Sun 16-Jan-2011 at 12:59 -0800, Tobias wrote: I can't create a panorama and get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/554857/ Is there anything I can do? Hi, this is a known problem with enblend 4.0, see this FAQ entry for some workarounds: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ#enblend:_excessive_overlap_detected -- Bruno -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: cpfind rocks!
Cpfind is default Cp generator with latest hugin windows 32bit builds. CPfind is no doubt one of the best Cp generator now. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Russ russ.moerl...@gmail.com wrote: I just updated this package on Ubuntu 10.10 and was a bit dismayed when I couldn't really find cpfind easily. It wasn't in the dropdown selector for cp detector, and going into the preferences menu I was lost in trying to figure out how to add it. In reading Terry's comment I removed the .hugin file from my home directory and things are better now. Just my $0.02 Russ On Jan 14, 5:46 pm, Tduell tdu...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hullo again Tom, On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 06:48:37 +1100, Tom Sharpless tksharpl...@gmail.com #1 complaint: Why isn't cpfind bundled with Hugin and preconfigured as the default CP finder?? Sorry if this is a silly question, but did you reset your defaults? Cheers, Terry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin problems with finding control points with large number of images
I also stitch 200+ image panoramas. I had faced same problem and still finding solution. I have to use AutopanoGiga trial to export PTO file. Legal but not moral. That is why I posted thread many times here. In my last topic CP generation problem was solved with Cpfind. Yuv' message Let's try to go at this one step at a time, together. OK? I want you to start an empty instance of Hugin. Go into the Images Tab and hit on the Add individual images tab. Add all of your images. Save this project as step1.pto. Start a command line in the same folder where you saved step1.pto and issue the command: cpfind -o step2.pto step1.pto Post step1.pto and step2.pto to this mailing list. Command line generation with cpfind will work perfectly. CPfind is an excellent Cp generator. It places accurate and well spread CPs even if you have 300 images. Optimization is still an issue to overcome. Preview after optimization has very strange results just like your. If anybody can help I am ready to upload all images to any large file hosting service. Regard, Emaad On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 2:19 PM, kfj _...@yahoo.com wrote: On 13 Jan., 20:11, michael.grant michael.gr...@gmail.com wrote: Found unconnected images seems you have unconnected image groups. Then the stitcher doesn't know where to place these groups relatively to each other. You can connect them with manually set CPs, or pick likely candidates (select them in the images tab) and search for control points for only these images more thoroughly (like, by running autopano-sift-c with the -- maxdim parameter set larger than your image size, or panomatic with -- fullscale) - this often finds CPs even if your images don't match so well due to the errors from shooting them handheld. In featureless images (sky etc.) you can't expect the CPGs to find anything, you must do it manually. ends up with 2 sets of images like this: see, that seems to be the problem I tried several of the other control point detectors, for example autopano and I get an error: Loading keyfiles are you sure you have keyfiles? You'd have to have generated them in a previous separate step. Pan-o-matic doesn't seem to handle the %s properly and doesn't seem capable of handling 127 images. I run panomatic with just -o %o %i (plus, maybe, the --fullscale). Works just fine, but for large numbers of images you may want to use it in linear mode (--linearmatch) because otherwise it will try and match every image with every other, which, with 127 images, takes a while :-) What else can I try to stitch this monster? Try patience, experience and a good look at the (admittedly scattered) documentation - not only hugin's but also the CPGs'. And a little help from friends. Don't worry, hugin can stitch much larger projects, but it's not the sort of klick-and-forget tool, you have to invest some time and effort in learning it properly, but the reward is usually well worth it. Kay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: More image tabs in fast preview window
Kay what about one row but autoscrolling to desired number. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:36 PM, kfj _...@yahoo.com wrote: I sympathize. In complex multi-sequence situations with large numbers of images, trying to identify images by looking at 'which number lights up' (or reverse) is a pain, since often the numbers for the image one wants to identify are outside the currently displayed range. This has often annoyed me. But where does one draw a line? 100 images? 200? two rows? three? maybe there's a better way altogether? Kay On 13 Jan., 05:54, Sigma Relief jkru...@gmail.com wrote: Just a minor request for the GUI on the fast preview feature in windows; make the numbered tabs closer together when there are more images. The old version could fit 50+ on a 1600 pixel wide screen while fast preview fits 40 with large spacing between tabs. Reducing spacing would be a good easy start. Wrapping to a 2nd or 3rd line would make identifying images easier as it eliminates having to continually scroll back and forth when using the identify feature. At least in Windows, there is plenty of room for 3 rows of numbers, 1 above the current row and 1 where the horizontal scroll bar is. A small vertical scroll bar could be used for more than 3 rows. Are there any simple variables a user could tweak to improve this? I'm not sure if there is an official feature request area so any pointers would be appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] More image tabs in fast preview window
I am third for this request. I have to stitch 150-200 images in one panorama. When I have to use IDENTIFY button. I have to scroll many times to identify image. Wrapping it to rows is a very nice idea. At this moment On mouse over number on numbered bar is highlighted. is it possible that when I use IDENTIFY button and mouse over an image than numbered bar auto scrolls to desired number. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Seb Perez-D sbprzd+...@gmail.comsbprzd%2b...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 05:54, Sigma Relief jkru...@gmail.com wrote: Just a minor request for the GUI on the fast preview feature in windows; make the numbered tabs closer together when there are more images. [...] Wrapping to a 2nd or 3rd line would make identifying images easier as it eliminates having to continually scroll back and forth when using the identify feature. I second this request - it would be very helpful. Cheers, Seb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] How to fill black areas of a panorama?
I shoot with 38mm lens so capturing sky is almost impossible. I capture one single image with my fisheye convertor for sky. After optimization of projecty I add sky image. Because at this time hugin allows me to move/ drag sky image independant of all other images. Is there any other way where one can drag/move individual images in fast preview? After that Hugin does a perfect job in blending sky seemlessly. Bruno, thanks for enblend parameter advice. 2011/1/5 Lukáš Jirkovský l.jirkov...@gmail.com On 4 January 2011 22:17, panhobby panho...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm now shooting almost only handheld panoramic pictures. One side effect is the lack of precision while shooting pictures. Then, it appears sometime that my pictures are not fully covering the area of the final image. There some parts at the top or the bottom of the image that are fully black and without information. In any case, the approach would go threw the following steps: 1) Fill black areas with other parts of the image 2) Blend the addition from the previous step with the image to produce the final image. I wonder what is the best approach/tools to execute the second step? I did some manual tests with a picture editor (photoshop) but, maybe because of lack of expertire, I didn't succeeded to get an invisible blend. It seems the lastest version of photoshop elements provide a function to fill empty part of an image. As anyone experimented that? I would think that enblend or a similar tool could be used to do the merge automatically? Thanks for your help PH http://liquidrescale.wikidot.com/ does a rather good job at filling smaller areas with missing data. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: control point generator help needed
Hi Yuv, We had a major change of plan here because of the weather, so I can only answer you short. I can understand. Your short answer is enough for first step. Thanks. You were complaining about cpfind and autopano-sift-c hanging indefinitely. But the screenshot you sent me tells me that the problem lies somewhere else. Yes, They hang or you can say keep working indefinitely. Please! View pdf file I also attached as a reference. I manually stopped APSC process and it however added lots of CPs. Than I optimized it with YPRVB parameters and sent screenshot. So there are two issues indefinite CP generator working and allignment. I have started Command line CP generation with CPfind. It's 01-01-2011 and 10:06 A.M. now. I normally take bracketed images for very bright areas. I have followed your previous advice to put pre Enfused images. Manually fused images with enfuse allign droplet. Enfuse GUI is a good option but it does not have allign feature so I preferred droplet. I will post files as soon as they are finished. Thanks, Emaad On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: Hi Emaad, We had a major change of plan here because of the weather, so I can only answer you short. You were complaining about cpfind and autopano-sift-c hanging indefinitely. But the screenshot you sent me tells me that the problem lies somewhere else. Also, I see in your taskbar that there are three Hugin windows open. One is the fast preview (screenshot). One is the main window. And the third one? The screenshot you send shows an optimization issue, not a CP generation issue. Optimization is a garbage-in garbage-out process, and bad CPs may well be the 'garbage-in'. Let's try to go at this one step at a time, together. OK? I want you to start an empty instance of Hugin. Go into the Images Tab and hit on the Add individual images tab. Add all of your images. Save this project as step1.pto. Start a command line in the same folder where you saved step1.pto and issue the command: cpfind -o step2.pto step1.pto Post step1.pto and step2.pto to this mailing list. Thanks Yuv On December 30, 2010 04:02:43 am Emad ud din Btt wrote: hi yuv, it is impossible to help you / come to a conclusion from what you describe above. If I understand correctly: cpfind and autopano-sift-c work for the same large set of images and don't work for a smaller set of images? can you make the smaller set of images available? No, Problem is same for large or smaller set of images. I have attached a pdf file with screenshots of Autopano Sift-c (multirow stacked) cpgeneration process. This screenshot was taken after 16 hours approx. There are 290 images in set.Than I manually interrupted process. It howerver added CPs and thats good about autopano sift c. Cpfind does not single CP if manually stopped. Autopano Sift-c (multirow stacked) added CPs to set of 217 images. This quite similar to CPfind process. It keeps iterating, strategies and repeating process again n again. also: did you try cpfind and autopano-sift-c from the command line? just to exclude an unrelated GUI freeze/problem, I'd run the tests from the command line Dont know how to do it from command line. Is it going to folder, placing CPG there and than run it with parameter. Little assistance required so that baby do not loose path :) I am not an expert on command line or scripting. But ready to learn how to walk in this two way street :) panorama creation is a _workflow_ not a _software_. There is more than one workflow to create panoramas, and while CP generation is 'essential' to _your_ workflow, it was not to the workflow underlying the creation of [0]; and it is certainly not essential part of any software. Yuv, I here for solution and advice. I am ready to follow your advice. Not here for wasting time on arguments. Can you please tell me what workflow is best for doing it right. The performance and bugs of third-party tools is not the responsibility of those developing, building, packaging or distributing Hugin. Feel free to discuss them, but don't expect them to be part of Hugin, nor for Hugin developers to take responsibility for them. Ok thanks for allowing to discuss it. I have attached two files. One file is CP generation screenshots. Other picture contains fast preview of one my project. Autopano sift c mutlirow stacked added (30 CPs per image set) and than optimized it with YPRVB parameters. Allignment is not right. On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: Hi Emaad, On December 27, 2010 04:24:02 am Emad ud din Btt wrote: Yuv, I have reported CPfind experience in my last email. I have tried CPfind. It worked great for two projects. It added CPs for 217 images in 1008 seconds. I used default 10 cp settings. It even added its max 50 cps per image
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: control point generator help needed
Hi, Yuv, I have reported CPfind experience in my last email. I have tried CPfind. It worked great for two projects. It added CPs for 217 images in 1008 seconds. I used default 10 cp settings. It even added its max 50 cps per image to these 217 images in very short time. But I dont know why its not working like that now for even smaller number of images. It goes on iterating again and again. Than keep displaying strategies and than back to iteration process. My previous experience with autopano sift c is somewhat same. It also keeps iterating even if you leave it for 24 hours. I have tested Can anyone, explain how CPfind works. I have allowed CPfind to work for hours but it keeps iterating. It's good that we can discuss at least one CPgenerator here and i.e. CPfind. Please! Read my email and help me. My second question isControl point generation is most important part of panorama creation. So Why we cant work or discuss over it? When we talk about PTgui, Autopano or other commercial softwares, we assume its a full package and CP generation is part of it.I am not into comparisons here but you will admit CP generation is essential part of Panorama creation softwares. Regards, Emaad On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: On December 26, 2010 04:30:05 pm Tom Sharpless wrote: Well, I configured the Autopano-SIFT-C (multirow/stacked) option to use the 2-step finder (from a previous build) and set it to work on a 20 x 2 array, shot with a 50mm lens. and how does 2010.4 with cpfind (not Autopano-SIFT-C) perform on that same set of 20x2 images? I will repeat once more and then shut up: Hugin's CP finding is a disgraceful mess No. You should not judge Hugin by the performance of third party tools. If you want to complain about Hugin, please try cpfind first. Comments, discussion, critique, feedback, improvements to cpfind are welcome. And if you find cpfind to be a disgraceful mess, we'll take notice. At the very least, there must be a web page that spells out how to get and use the various finders now available. You (and anybody interested) are welcome to create such a page. The Panotools wiki is a good place to host it. Hugin has nothing to do with it. I am sick of hearing oh, that is patented, so we can't talk about it. Yes You Can. Patents don't prevent talking. There is a lot of talk around, e.g. in this very same thread with Panomatic and Microsoft ICE suggested to Emaad as potential solutions to his CP finding needs. And if these tools do the work for you, please use them... At best, someone will put together a distributable package that 'just works'. ... but don't ask others to contravene to SourceForge's terms and conditions or to take legal risks to satisfy your wishes. Patents do prevent distribution. Although, distribution is mainly prevented by technical inferiority. If your operating system had proper packet management, you would not be complaining about bad packages. You're barking up the wrong tree. Yuv -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: control point generator help needed
I have tried CPfind. It worked great for two projects. It added CPs for 217 images in 1008 seconds. I used default 10 cp settings. It even added its max 50 cps per image to these 217 images in very short time. But I dont know why its not working like that now for even smaller number of images. It goes on iterating again and again. Than keep displaying strategies and than back to iteration process. My previous experience with autopano sift c is somewhat same. It also keeps iterating even if you leave it for 24 hours. Can anyone, explain how CPfind works. I have allowed CPfind to work for hours but it keeps iterating. On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: On December 26, 2010 01:37:10 pm Jan Martin wrote: For aerial photography, is there a mode that uses the latitude/longitude info of geotagged images to place them instead of just assuming a pattern no, but you can file a ticket with a feature request. and: the current heuristic probably does not need the pre-placement for CP detection, but it may help the optimizer later on. actually the airplane example illustrate a point where the current heuristic is better than any pattern assumption. if your plane flies randomly no pre- filled pattern will help. but the sequence of adjacent images assumed by the current heuristic still works, unless a gremlin hidden in your computer renamed the files out of sequence. Yuv -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: control point generator help needed
Andres I have tried ICE before but i dont think it can handle 300 image. On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Andres andres.l...@gmail.com wrote: If you're in a hurry, you could check out Microsoft ICE (google for links)... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] control point generator help needed
Thanks Yuv, I did try to use panomatic but it failed for such high number of images. I will try Panomatic with parameters you sent. I have no patent restrictions here. Thanks. On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: On December 25, 2010 02:18:26 am Emad ud din Btt wrote: I need urgent help for a control point generator that can handle 300 images 360x180 architectural panoramas. Please! Mention best possible CP generator and also share it's parameters or steps to follow. if you live in a jurisdiction that is not covered by the SURF patent, you may want to give Panomatic a try. To build it [0] To use it, assuming all your input images are JPG and are in the same folder: panomatic -o project.pto *.jpg go have lunch and when you are back open the resulting project.pto file in Hugin and continue working on it. Yuv [0] http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_Ubuntu#Pan-o-matic -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: control point generator help needed
Sir, Many thanks. Control point generation is a very important step in panorama creation. Hugin is an excellent software but its not a CP finder. PTGUI and Autopano giga both create CPs for this project. But again we cant blame Hugin. CP generation is not its feature. I am not into gigapixel race. I have to shoot high number of images due to my equipment restrictions. So anyone here please help me out. Details of my project are: 5 (360) degree rows 38mm lens 40%-50% overlap between images. 40%-50% overlap between rows. Row 1 overlaps with row2, row2 with row3, row3 with row4, row4 with row5. Looking for help. Regards, Emaad On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Tom Sharpless tksharpl...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Emad, I'm not expert on the problem of aligning large sets of images. But I can tell you the Hugin CP finders will not handle this either. It is because they try to find CPs between every possible pair of images, and the number of possibilities grows too large too fast. The way to do it with APSCP, etc, would be to process separate groups of images that actually do overlap, then add all the found CPs to a project file that names all the images (this would involve changing the image numbers on the CPs to match the ones in the project). For example if your pano is in rows and columns, each group might be a central image and 4 neighbors. I believe PTGui partially automates this, in that you can select some images and ask it to just find CPs between those. But I'm not sure it works for more than 2 images at a time, I've never tried more. There must be CP finders that can handle your problem, because stitching gigapixel images from hundreds of photos is now quite a popular activity. I would start by checking the GigaPan website. Also I would look for a script (perhaps by Bruno Postle) for doing it with the Hugin tools. I keep suggesting that someone should make Hugin do CP finding intelligently, when the arrangement of the source images is already known. But so far nobody has volunteered. Regards, Tom On Dec 25, 10:42 am, Emad ud din Btt xyzt...@gmail.com wrote: Andres I have tried ICE before but i dont think it can handle 300 image. On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Andres andres.l...@gmail.com wrote: If you're in a hurry, you could check out Microsoft ICE (google for links)... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com hugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad*www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: control point generator help needed
I have latest hugin windows build downloaded from thepanz. On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: On December 25, 2010 12:38:39 pm Tom Sharpless wrote: I keep suggesting that someone should make Hugin do CP finding intelligently, when the arrangement of the source images is already known. But so far nobody has volunteered. when did you last check Hugin? Thomas Modes has added the multi-row strategy a while ago... Yuv -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: control point generator help needed
Thanks Yuv, I have downloaded official release. Its better. It has all CPGs. I installed it in clean state. Now I have started my testing. I will test all CPGs with my images. At the moment CPfind is doing its job. Any tip for parameters. Like I think adding %s parameter is important for huge number of images. But now I am testing with default parameters I got with official version. Regards, Emaad On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: On December 25, 2010 01:45:28 pm Emad ud din Btt wrote: I have latest hugin windows build downloaded from thepanz. you'll find the official ones at http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/ Matthew has been very fast and efficient to produce binaries for Windows, like Harry for OSX. Yuv -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] control point generator help needed
Dear all, I need urgent help for a control point generator that can handle 300 images 360x180 architectural panoramas. Please! Mention best possible CP generator and also share it's parameters or steps to follow. *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Lately, a Fast Preview error message seen in windows
This problem started from builds with Masking feature. Masking is a very very fine addition to hugin. But this causes this problem to windows users. I have pointed out this problem on this forum and after much investigation by experts..there is no solution. You have to change VGA card that supports it or You can also try Ubuntu operating system. All my VGA cards that are not compatible with hugin fast preview mode, works perfectly under ubuntu. I dont know why is that? Why one VGA supports it in ubuntu and same VGA doest not support it in windows. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:36 AM, AKS-Gmail-IMAP aksei...@gmail.com wrote: I have been running Hugin on a Windows 7 box for a few months without any problems until about the time the 64 bit Hugin builds started to appear. This error started to crop up when opening the fast preview, so I revert to earlier builds. Sorry, the fast preview window requires a system which supports OpenGL version 1.1 with GL_ARB_multitexture extension. The fast preview cannot be opened. I see this error in the most recent 32bit and 64bit builds. The computer equipment being used is an up to date CAD workstation. I guess it might handle just about anything thrown to it. Could it be there is some other error occurring that is trapped by the code that outputs the error message? Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: THANK YOU
Thank you On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Dedalus ad.huikesho...@gmail.com wrote: I hope ordinary users will join into this thank you message. Rogier Wolff attended me on an update on a bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin/+bug/678946. So I found the latest installer build by Mathew Petroff, and I concur +1: a great installer though his updated script isn't available anymore at http://www.box.net/shared/b8gg663s0g. Anyway, I replicated the old error: caught exception: bad allocation make: *** [bigtest.tif] Error 1. So thanks for all the hard work. Ad Huikeshoven -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ubuntu 10.10, Hugin
My personal experience with ...Intel 945 board has compatibility issues with Hugin. But It was in windows only . I have checked it under ubuntu and same vga works perfectly. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:55 PM, kfj _...@yahoo.com wrote: On 19 Okt., 16:24, Dale Beams drbe...@hotmail.com wrote: KFJ, Do you have a video card with GL, such as Nvidia, etc. which you don't have the drivers loaded? PanoGLView will perform slowly if you don't have the right drivers for you video card. I have chipset graphics. intel 945 GM, if I'm not mistaken. It's a laptop. But I don't think that's the problem, since I can run panoglview just fine from the 10.4 installation on this same machine, and I think it unlikely 10.10 would use a different driver to 10.4. But I'm not a linux buff, so technically, this issue is currently beyond me. with regards KFJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin 2010.2.0 released
Many thanks for your Installers Mathew.. On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Matthew Petroff matt...@mpetroff.netwrote: On Oct 15, 10:47 am, Aron H aron.hel...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that's the problem. Hugin should be a native x64 application, so it should install in C:/Program Files/, not C:/Program Files (x86)/ Sorry, I forgot to change the installation directory when creating the 64-bit installer. An updated version is available here: http://www.box.net/shared/pv7vn53qza I also check the 'Clean registry settings' box, and checked all the CP detectors, and my default CP detector ended up as align_image_stack, which won't produce panoramas, right? Can we make the default the same as other platforms? Panomatic or Autopano-sift-c? The defaults are hard coded into Hugin and have nothing to do with the installer. Not only does Hugin default to align_image_stack but none of the other control point generators work as the paths to them are broken. I may try to fix this for the next release with new registry entries, but this isn't going to change for the current release. It's also still downloading Autopano-sift-C 2.5.2, which I guess hasn't been resolved yet? Until someone makes a binary available that the installer can link to, this will not be changed as I am not going to build, upload, or host a binary since SIFT is patented. If someone makes a binary available that the installer is able to download (the installer is unable to download Henk's link as there is a landing page) I will gladly update the installer. Matthew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Hugin 2010.2.0 released
Thanks for all you people for your hardwork...Much appreciated. These updates looks very good indeed. Regards, Emaad On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Bruno Postle br...@postle.net wrote: Thanks to everyone responsible for this release! Hugin-2010.2.0 release notes Translated versions of these notes can be found here: http://hugin.sourceforge.net/releases/ Hugin is a panorama stitcher and more. Changes since 2010.0.0 This is our second release in 2010. It delivers some major new features, completes integration of projects from the 2009 Google Summer of Code, and includes many general improvements. Layout mode The Hugin Fast Preview window visualises your panorama and lets you change the project by dragging and clicking. This release introduces an extra mode for this preview that shows the entire project as a diagram with colour-coded lines connecting each of the photographs. Now with a glance you can see where the project is ok and where there are problems if it isn't quite right. Just click on any connection and Hugin jumps to the Control Points tab to edit that pair of photos. Masking Hugin uses multiresolution seam blending to join photos invisibly by smoothing colours and brightness. Controlling the location of this seam is now much easier with the new Mask tab, which instead of requiring you to place the seam itself, lets you just indicate the areas of photos that you do and don't want to be part of the finished panorama - The seam itself then gets placed intelligently using the remaining overlapping areas. Masks can be saved and reused in new projects, so objects that appear again and again like tripod heads can be easily excluded. Mosaics For a stitched panorama you shoot photos in different directions but from a single location, Hugin will happily assemble these into a complete scene. Now Hugin has an alternative mosaic mode — You can take photos of a planar object such as a floor, painting, or mural from any position, direction or angle, and Hugin will stitch them seamlessly just as it does with a normal panorama. Linked bracketing Hugin allows you to shoot exposure bracketed photos and panoramas, it will automatically combine them with exposure fusion or HDR merging into a single image that has the best areas of each photo in the stack. Hugin uses the same alignment process as with panoramas so even hand-held bracketing works perfectly. Photographers who use quality tripods can now skip this alignment stage by telling Hugin that photos in a bracketed stack are linked and share the same view. Control point detector modes Hugin uses plugin tools called control point detectors to automatically match features between photos. Previous versions of Hugin relied on the detector entirely, but now Hugin can make intelligent detector choices based on knowledge of the panorama. So Hugin can now match the photos in a multi-row panorama more efficiently and with less error by breaking the job into separate tasks, panoramas consisting of bracketed stacks can be automatically identified and Hugin will switch to using appropriate matching tools. Another new feature is that panoramas can be approximately aligned by dragging the photos around in the preview or using a template, the control point detector can then be asked to only check overlapping pairs of photos instead of all possible combinations of photos — This speeds things up and reduces the chances of false matches. New lens types Hugin supports photos taken with a wide range of 'normal' and fisheye lenses, and can fine-tune for variation of distortion from these standard types. With this release support has been added for orthographic, stereographic and equisolid lenses. Migration to Mercurial Development of Hugin sourcecode has switched from Subversion to Mercurial to better support parallel development and to reduce dependency on Sourceforge infrastructure. Languages Most of the translations have been updated for this release. Other improvements This release has the usual bugfixes, adds minor features, and provides some more command-line tools for scripting panorama projects. Control point generators Hugin doesn't yet ship with a 'Patent Free' control point generator. So you either need to pick control points manually - Not as difficult as it sounds - or install and configure one of the following control-point generators as 'plug-ins': * autopano-sift-C * panomatic * libpanomatic * match-n-shift * Autopano-SIFT * Autopano freeware version Upgrading Upgrading from previous versions of Hugin should be seamless. If you do have problems with old settings, these can be reset in the Preferences by clicking 'Load defaults'. For users compiling from source: note that the minimum version of wxWidgets supported is now 2.7.0, libpano13 needs to be at least 2.9.17, and that Hugin requires GLEW the OpenGL Extension Wrangler
[hugin-ptx] CP generation with Autopano Sift-C (multirow-stacked)
I am trying to generate CPs using Autopano siftc multirow stacked version. 150 images 5 rows Its working for last 19 hours and still working. Hers is text from screen Loaded 3035 keypoints from e:\temp\apk18F.tmp for image E:\Emaad\October\PA020457.JPG (2048x1536) Matching... RANSAC enabled Created global k-d tree containing 101009 keypoints Using a BBF cut search depth of 21637.87%, 38250/101009 Can anybody help why its taking so much time? *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Owie
Hi Yuv, Things going in wrong direction. We are not here for conflicts. This group has maintained a positive and friendly tone. I agree with you and dont go into comparisons anymore. But I only highlight issues to improve our software Hugin. Last but not least, you claim it is Hugin. Recent threads on this list tells me that it is probably **your build** of Hugin and related tools; and that you had all sorts of problems following instructions that have been leading to successful builds thousands of (silent) times. This is what I am trying to convey to you about Builds for some time. How users like me will know this build is right or not? We users normally download builds made by someone. I know Bruno's build or Yuv's builds may be working excellently but how do I know that this build is Ok, made with latest files? for exampe since Zoran's latest hugin windows builds fast preview windows is not compatible with many Vga cards. There must be only one build for ubuntu, linux, fedora or windows. One build that You have, Burno has and remove all other Your builds its creating confusion. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: Dale, On September 27, 2010 01:32:48 am Dale Beams wrote: APPro beats Hugin in alignment hands down. IMHO it is more correct to state that APPro operated by Dale Beams beats Hugin operated by Dale Beams hands down. I bet that Hugin operated by Bruno Postle would beat APPro operated by Dale Beams on quality of stitch based on exactly the same input images. In truth [...] Truth? your limited experience, maybe. If this is what works for you, buy APPro. The experience of other users is completely different [0]. I don't think that the trial of APPro is meant for the use that you, Emad, and maybe others are doing. IMHO it is morally important to respect proprietary software as much as it is important to respect Open Source software. Hugin has a problem with feature creep. With funding from Google, Agnos, Nodal Ninja, and last but not least the community we had a total of 20+ student projects in the past 4 years. Plus many contributions from interesting smart people, too many to mention. For you these contributions may be features creep. For me they, and the people associated with them - mentors, students, other contributors - are what make Hugin interesting. Hugin's problem is that *consumers* like you project their *wishes* on it. In truth, Hugin met it's initial objective (0.7.x) but for whatever reason which users don't understand and don't have the programming experience to examine code, Hugin isn't currently accomplishing this goal. I've tested it and posted my results to the list. Stop it with your ludicrous truth. Hugin does not have any objective. People do. You have objectives. I have objectives. We team up when our objectives are aligned. We negotiate and compromise on the inevitable small conflicts of interest. When the objectives are too different and it no longer make sense to compromise, we part ways. So Hugin is not accomplishing *your* goal? I feel sympathy for you, but I don't think that this is a problem for Hugin. Why should your objective be more important than contributors' objectives? btw, I use ubuntu, built my own LFS system in 2003, had some introduction to C++ programing in college, wrote some interesting scripts, worked on OS400 CISC to RISC conversions, etc. and enjoye a good GUI. I sit between worlds, user/tester/dev/ I'm an oldie who doesn't need to prove anything, but would enjoy just using the software. Good for you, I don't question your computing skills. I do question the integrity, completeness, methodology, and ultimately results and purpose of your test. You claim it is between Hugin and APPro. I claim it is first and foremost between you and yourself. You don't provide input images nor PTO files, only screenshot. Frankly speaking, both screenshots look like a crappy stitches to me, but I don't have enough information to judge what is the cause. You claim it is the control point detection. Are you aware that Hugin is not a CP detector (yet) [1]? Hugin only provides an interface to CP detectors installed on your system. You don't even mention which one you are using. There are many reasons for a crappy stitch. Could be parallax problems in the input images. You don't provide them to verify. Could be indeed CP detection like you claim. Could also be bad optimization. The result of optimization depends also a lot on the operator. But without providing a pto file and input images it is not possible to help you. Last but not least, you claim it is Hugin. Recent threads on this list tells me that it is probably *your build* of Hugin and related tools; and that you had all sorts of problems following instructions that have been leading to successful builds thousands of (silent) times.
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Owie
Ok, Dont remove other builds. But there must be fully working fully updated Official builds. Builds which are labelled as OFFICIAL. I am using opensource software and I have not seen 3, 4 builds of openoffice. There is only one I download. Dont restrict others. Fast preview issue in Zoran's build was not only my issue. I raised this issue once. I contacted Bruno too but he is no on windows so he excused. I used older builds. Than on this group many people raised this issue. So after much investigation it was sorted out that its due to openGl support by some certain vga cards. Now its included in Zoran build. it informs users about compatibility. But same VGA card works without problem on latest hugin builds in Ubuntu. About APP pro. I am using it legitemately. App pro trial removes CPs. Only first image pair has 60 Cps and on all other images 2 CPs are left. App pro trial has offered this feature i have not cracked it to do so. Ptgui trial does not give you anything. Its choice of vendor. So its within their allowed limits. I can generate a full gigapixel from App pro with watermarks but i follow your advice it will also be morally wrong..:)) APP pro team is aware what they are offering and what can be done with a trial generated PTO file with hugin. They can also have no option like PTgui but they are confident on their product. So stop advocating me to buy App pro again. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: Hi Emad, On September 28, 2010 04:45:00 am Emad ud din Btt wrote: I only highlight issues to improve our software Hugin. don't worry, I understand. You are completely legitimate and welcome when you share *your* experience, highlight *your* issues, make *your* wishes known. It is the *perspective* from your point of view and I respect it. I accept it. I have a big problem with individuals who claim that their point of view is the one that count, in absolute terms. Even in the hypothetical case that they represent a majority. Hugin is from contributors to contributors and it is the point of view of the contributors that counts. Contributors are a minority and it's OK. How users like me will know this build is right or not? We users normally download builds made by someone. I know Bruno's build or Yuv's builds may be working excellently but how do I know that this build is Ok, made with latest files? for exampe since Zoran's latest hugin windows builds fast preview windows is not compatible with many Vga cards. This is a general problem of the internet: trust your source of downloads, or don't download. I can't fix it for you. I can only give you this advice: The official download place for Hugin is [0]. If it is there, and if you have also verified the shasum of the download from Sourceforge, it is safe. Beyond that, you're on your own. You are taking a risk. And the big risk is not even a broken build. The biggest risk is an attacker abusing your trust to ship a binary that is infected with malware. Every time I see an unknown name announcing a successful Windows build and a download URL I wonder if it this is *the* one. So far we have been lucky. There must be only one build for ubuntu, linux, fedora or windows. One build that You have, Burno has and remove all other Your builds its creating confusion. Impossible. This goes against the principle of Open Source through which every user has access to the source code and is free to do many things with it, including building. That said: there is one official build for ubuntu, fedora, and other linux systems with a package manager. It is the one found in their official repository. But they don't want / can't prevent a user from getting a package from an unofficial repository. Ubuntu handles it pretty nicely, with PPAs. Everybody can have an unofficial repository (a PPA) on launchpad. He must sign the code and be known to launchpad. There is an official Hugin PPA on launchpad. Systems without a package manager (i.e. Windows and OSX) don't have this option. But then, they are geared at proprietary software where there is only one build - the one officially sanctioned by the owner of the code. Last but not least, the one feedback I had for you: If you are using Autopano Pro trial to generate your CPs, the morally right thing to do is to buy an Autopano Pro license. I don't think that a trial is meant to be circumvented the way you are doing, even if it is possible and it works. Ultimately, what you do is your decision and I don't judge you. I am just stating what I would be doing if I was you. And I do have a paid Autopano Pro license (which I don't use). Yuv [0] http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/ [1] https://launchpad.net/~hugin -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Owie
Dale I have shared my thoughts about APP pro in detail. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Dale Beams drbe...@hotmail.com wrote: Yuv, Making false accusations is poor etiquette. APPro Trial won't let you save back the CP's. Please read the e-mails carefully before you make a decision to respond. Last but not least, the one feedback I had for you: If you are using Autopano Pro trial to generate your CPs, the morally right thing to do is to buy an Autopano Pro license. I don't think that a trial is meant to be circumvented the way you are doing, even if it is possible and it works. Ultimately, what you do is your decision and I don't judge you. I am just stating what I would be doing if I was you. And I do have a paid Autopano Pro license (which I don't use). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues
its seems there is no end to finding this endless proper BUILD problem. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: On September 28, 2010 06:55:33 pm ArAgost wrote: While it's great to have an out-of- the-box working Mac binary, it baffles me why the Hugin website only links to the 0.8.0 binaries (!) and we have to scavenge on Harry's personal site. first of all, Harry has upload access to the official Hugin website. If he has not added a binary there, it is probably because he has other things to do. for the rest, I will let Harry answer the why and how. All I can say is: don't worry about scavenging his personal site. THe HTML is there, but the binaries themselves are on the panotools.org server. Yuv -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues
Yuv, My intention was not make comparisons. I just shared my experience. I have spend time to learn hugin and thanks for this group for all the support. I had no intent to disgrace Hugin or team :) Yuv, I really appreciate your feedbacks. Hugin is ahead of other softwares in term of final image quality as well:) On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: Hi Emad, On September 25, 2010 01:41:14 am Emad ud din Btt wrote: Its open source but I think this feature is for developers. that's a misconception. Open Source has more advantages for the users than for the developers. Contrast the history of Freehand [0] with that of Blender [1] and think of the users who have spent hours/days/week to develop expertise in Freehand and what their time-investment is worth now. Normal user will not want to go and add %p %o %s in autopano-sift parameters for multirow pano. He will want to just load pics and get pano Your definition of 'normal' reflects your wishes. Hugin is for every user what they make it for themselves and there is no such thing as a 'normal user'. The best matching products for a user with the wish described above is Autopano Pro. Just load pics and get pano. No other software known to me, commercial or Free, matches this sentence better than Autopano Pro. It was designed with exactly this use case in mind. I hope in one year time it will at par with commercial softwares. I do not like comparisons. That said, depends on what you measure, Hugin is already at par with commercial software on some metrics. On other metrics it is ahead and on other metrics it is behind. The question is: which metric is more important to you. If it is an automated process with as little human intervention as possible, go with Autopano Pro - it is ahead and will stay ahead for many years to come. If your metric is detailed and precise assisted control of image placement on the panosphere or on the mosaic plane, Hugin is ahead. It all depends on what your need is. If you need to drive fast from A to B, why torture yourself with a bus when you can have a sportscar? on the other hand, if you need to get a lot of gear from A to B, why torture yourself with a sportscar when you can have a truck? Rather than setting yourself up for disappointment, choose the right tool for you. I am a windows user and I feel there is lack of technical resource person for windows users. Most of hugin team is not using windows. Thats why it creates issues. Is there anyone looking after windows builds that they are accurate and uptodate? or we have to shift to Ubuntu lolzzz would you still feel there is a lack of technical resource person for windows users if that person would charge you 60$/hour for her support/advice? there are enough people looking after windows builds - actually from the names I've seen flying over the past few weeks on the list more than for any platform. But they have to deal with issues that are solved automatically by more efficient platforms. I can tell from my own experience that building and packaging Hugin for Windows was much more painful than doing it it for Kubuntu. That said, I am not advocating that you shift to Ubuntu. Use what works best in your situation. Yuv On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Gareth p...@jonestheweb.com wrote: Carl, I've just checked the last Hugin image I installed, which was hugin- mac-2010-1.0.0 from early June. I know from the list that things have changed since then so perhaps I should give Hugin another try, when I have some spare moments. On Sep 24, 1:05 pm, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: On September 24, 2010 05:34:05 am kfj wrote: special thanks to Yuval Levy, you have really made an effort to work things out for me so I can take heart, get over my frustration and maybe end up doing something productive. happy to read my words were helpful to you. I am sure you will do something productive, whether with PTgui, Hugin, or whatever other software you will apply your brains to. I'm well willing to struggle up the learning curve to get things working. And I'll look into what I can do to make the problems that bug me go away. You're already on the right path. Fire up questions to this list, you'll often get help and advice from people who have been there done that. Even if you're going to unchartered territories, you'll get help and support along the way, as you can witness in your recent thread about building libpano on MinGW. Yuv signature.asc 1KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Owie
Hi Yuv, I too get familiar problems. But I have found a way out. I know its not proper way of doing things. First I load images into Autopano Pro Trial and get this first image in very less time. Than I export its PTO file. Load it in hugin and its final image is still intact or pre-alligned. Autopano removes CPs. I manually add more CPs or sometimes I dont have to add any Cp. It works. Hugin really takes hours for my 5 row panoramas for first image and still it produces strange results. My intention is not to do comparison but to highlight this bug/issue. On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: A thousand panos? again, I question the purpose. Yes, you'll get some data to mine, but what for? Over the years I've used plenty of stitching software for plenty of panos. Some is perspective corrected, some not. Is lack/presence of perspective correction a feature or a bug? The answer depends on the user. Some is fully manual, some is fully automatic, and some is in between. Is lack/presence of automatism vs. control a feature or a bug? The answer depends on the user. Some is fast some is slow. Is speed a feature or a bug? Break it down to GUI interaction time vs. asynchronous processing time and the answer still depends on the user and how he decides to interact with the software. All software was/is pretty accurate in the sense that it deals consistently with user input and works as advertised. The inaccuracies I have found where mostly located between the chair and the keyboard or around the no parallax point. Or more directly stated: the bug lies between two ears and the fix lies between the same two ears. Yuv On August 26, 2010 04:14:16 am Jeffrey Martin wrote: FWIW i have tried similar comparisons, and there are some panos which will stitch perfectly on one program and not another. try it with a thousand panos, and maybe you'll have some interesting conclusions.until then, it's just anecdotal cheers, jeffrey On Aug 26, 2:19 am, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: On August 25, 2010 02:49:27 pm Dale Beams wrote: I did not fix this, rather, closed the program and started something else. what's the point of this incomplete comparison other than stating that some programs work better for you than other programs? Yuv -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin blues
Hi, I am using Hugin for almost 2 years time now. I stick with hugin because its free. Its open source but I think this feature is for developers. i am just a normal end user. Over the period of time I have used Autopano and PTGUI. Hugin is free but you have to pay the price of working hard in learning it :) Major difference between hugin and other softwares is for normal users. Normal user will not want to go and add %p %o %s in autopano-sift parameters for multirow pano. He will want to just load pics and get pano :) I have experienced hugin growing and adding lots of features in these two years. I have learnt hugin by posting my issues on this group and there are lots of people to help you out. Hugin is Opensoure hope in panoramic photography. I am with hugin and I hope in one year time it will at par with commercial softwares. I am a windows user and I feel there is lack of technical resource person for windows users. Most of hugin team is not using windows. Thats why it creates issues. Is there anyone looking after windows builds that they are accurate and uptodate? or we have to shift to Ubuntu lolzzz On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Gareth p...@jonestheweb.com wrote: Carl, I've just checked the last Hugin image I installed, which was hugin- mac-2010-1.0.0 from early June. I know from the list that things have changed since then so perhaps I should give Hugin another try, when I have some spare moments. On Sep 24, 1:05 pm, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote: On September 24, 2010 05:34:05 am kfj wrote: special thanks to Yuval Levy, you have really made an effort to work things out for me so I can take heart, get over my frustration and maybe end up doing something productive. happy to read my words were helpful to you. I am sure you will do something productive, whether with PTgui, Hugin, or whatever other software you will apply your brains to. I'm well willing to struggle up the learning curve to get things working. And I'll look into what I can do to make the problems that bug me go away. You're already on the right path. Fire up questions to this list, you'll often get help and advice from people who have been there done that. Even if you're going to unchartered territories, you'll get help and support along the way, as you can witness in your recent thread about building libpano on MinGW. Yuv signature.asc 1KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu
Can you people make Hugin installer for non-connected systems in near future? -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu
I reboot system and now its shows Hugin in App Graphics But when I click on it there is no response. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Emad ud din Butt xyzt...@gmail.com wrote: When I run this I get following message on Terminal...With Red fonts em...@ubuntu:~$ dpkg -L hugin | egrep bin/hugin /usr/local/bin/hugin_stitch_project /usr/local/bin/hugin_hdrmerge /usr/local/bin/hugin I have checked /usr/local/bin directory. All files are there. But I dont understand whats the reason of red font. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Kornel Benko kornel.be...@berlin.dewrote: Am Mittwoch, 8. September 2010 schrieb Emad ud din Butt: It displays whole llist of files. But where is hugin GUI? I have to manually add a shortcut or it will be auto added into Apps list? Try # dpkg -L hugin | egrep bin/hugin The name is hugin, so I would expect /usr/local/bin/hugin. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Kornel Benko kornel.be...@berlin.de wrote: Am Mittwoch, 8. September 2010 schrieb Emad ud din Butt: Hi Dale, Many thanksI have downloaded .deb files. Double clicked and it opened in package manager. I first installed dependencies using Terminal Than I install Base Install i.e. enblend, libpano and than hugin. Than I insalled image exif, panoglow etc. Than sudo Idconfig All installed perfectly and it is shown in package manager. But where can i find hugin. Its not being shown in applications. I have tried to open it from /usr/local/bin/hugin but no response. How can I fix it? I am using ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386 If everything is installed, you may check with # dpkg -L hugin to get the list of all installed files. Kornel -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- *Emaad* www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu
hi, I have tried and found this result em...@ubuntu:~$ ldd /usr/local/bin/hugin linux-gate.so.1 = (0x003b6000) libhuginbase.so.0.0 = /usr/local/lib/libhuginbase.so.0.0 (0x003b7000) libboost_thread.so.1.40.0 = /usr/lib/libboost_thread.so.1.40.0 (0x0011) libboost_date_time.so.1.40.0 = /usr/lib/libboost_date_time.so.1.40.0 (0x00dab000) libpano13.so.2 = /usr/local/lib/libpano13.so.2 (0x0024f000) liblapack.so.3gf = /usr/lib/liblapack.so.3gf (0x00fcf000) libblas.so.3gf = /usr/lib/libblas.so.3gf (0x00125000) libGLEW.so.1.5 = /usr/lib/libGLEW.so.1.5 (0x00de2000) libhuginvigraimpex.so.0.0 = /usr/local/lib/libhuginvigraimpex.so.0.0 (0x00bd3000) libImath.so.6 = /usr/lib/libImath.so.6 (0x001a2000) libIlmImf.so.6 = /usr/lib/libIlmImf.so.6 (0x002ea000) libIex.so.6 = /usr/lib/libIex.so.6 (0x001a8000) libHalf.so.6 = /usr/lib/libHalf.so.6 (0x001c1000) libIlmThread.so.6 = /usr/lib/libIlmThread.so.6 (0x00205000) libjpeg.so.62 = /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x0020d000) libtiff.so.4 = /usr/lib/libtiff.so.4 (0x00c2f000) libpng12.so.0 = /lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x00bae000) libz.so.1 = /lib/libz.so.1 (0x0022e000) libexiv2.so.6 = not found libhuginbasewx.so.0.0 = /usr/local/lib/libhuginbasewx.so.0.0 (0x00f78000) libceleste.so.0.0 = /usr/local/lib/libceleste.so.0.0 (0x00c8a000) libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_baseu_xml-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_gtk2u_gl-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_baseu_net-2.8.so.0 = not found libGLU.so.1 = /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1 (0x00caf000) libGL.so.1 = /usr/lib/mesa/libGL.so.1 (0x00d2) libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x00f4c000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x00d85000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x00e2e000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x00dbc000) libglut.so.3 = /usr/lib/libglut.so.3 (0x177b2000) libXmu.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x00f55000) libXi.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x00dcc000) libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x18dc1000) libm.so.6 = /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0x0e1b9000) libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x0632) libpthread.so.0 = /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 (0x1d3cf000) libc.so.6 = /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0x211ff000) libexiv2.so.6 = not found librt.so.1 = /lib/tls/i686/cmov/librt.so.1 (0x00243000) libgfortran.so.3 = /usr/lib/libgfortran.so.3 (0x1b5da000) libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_baseu_xml-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_gtk2u_gl-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_baseu_net-2.8.so.0 = not found libexiv2.so.6 = not found libexiv2.so.6 = not found libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_baseu_xml-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_gtk2u_gl-2.8.so.0 = not found libwx_baseu_net-2.8.so.0 = not found libXxf86vm.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0x003ad000) libXdamage.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXdamage.so.1 (0x00d9e000) libXfixes.so.3 = /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0x00da2000) libdrm.so.2 = /lib/libdrm.so.2 (0x00f6c000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0x00dda000) libuuid.so.1 = /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x00fa7000) libxcb.so.1 = /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x1fc1f000) libXt.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x0c656000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00fb2000) libXau.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x00dde000) libXdmcp.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00fac000) On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Dale Beams drbe...@hotmail.com wrote: Emaad, I'm interested in knowing what the command line says after you've started hugin there as Kornel has suggested. Dale On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 02:59 -0700, Emad ud din Btt wrote: I reboot system and now its shows Hugin in App Graphics But when I click on it there is no response. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Emad ud din Butt xyzt...@gmail.com wrote: When I run this I get following message on Terminal...With Red fonts em...@ubuntu:~$ dpkg -L hugin | egrep bin/hugin /usr/local/bin/hugin_stitch_project /usr/local/bin/hugin_hdrmerge /usr/local/bin/hugin I have checked /usr/local/bin directory. All files are there. But I dont understand whats the reason of red font. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Kornel Benko kornel.be...@berlin.de wrote: Am Mittwoch, 8. September 2010 schrieb Emad ud din Butt: It displays whole
Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu
Hi, Many Thanks Dale and Kornel. Yes, It was fresh Ubuntu installation. I have updated it and Hugin is now working. I will update you if I get any error. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Dale Beams drbe...@hotmail.com wrote: Emaad, You'll also need: sudo aptitude install libwxbase2.8-0 Dale -- Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 20:47:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin pre-compiled build for Ubuntu From: xyzt...@gmail.com To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
